Kyiv

Correct me if I am wrong here, but is someone actually complaining about using psychology to assist in getting pictures taken of naked women? Thats gotta be a first on this website.... the morality of getting women to pose for pictures? I think Skank is right. I think you need to have a think about what websites you choose to view.

Further, I would suggest its bordering on racist that you suggest "we" are smarter and more intelligent than Ukrainian women ... Do you think they are stupid? Do you think they dont have their own reasons for sleeping with foreign guys? Do you think they are so stupid that they dont know what they are doing? Do you think they dont have the intelligence to get what they want out of relationships with foreign guys?

If so, I would point out that there are websites full of divorced Americans, Canadians, Brits, Germans etc who have lost half their life's savings to intelligent Ukrainian women who would strongly disagree with you.

But it you feel anything more than bluntly asking "Pictures, yes or no?" is inappropriate, then I have to assume you are just as 'honest' with your dating technique? I mean why ask a girl out for a date, buy her dinner and drinks when really all you want to do is pump her full of spunk and take pics of her afterwards, anything else is simply being deceptive. You dont really want to buy her dinner. You do it cause it might lead to her kissing you as you walk back down Khreschatik. You dont buy her drinks cause it gives you pleasure. You buy her drinks to get her drunk and to one step closer to getting her in the sack. You dont flatter her with witty conversation and compliments cause you thik she is a great conversationalist in a language she barely speaks, or because you really do think she is the best looking woman in the world. So forget a romantic date, forget the seductive looks and the flirting, the hand holding, the invitation up to the apartment for "tea" ... The honest approach would be something like this.

"Hi there. I couldnt help notice as I walked down the street that you look like a bit of a s1ut. As it happens, I am hoping to be lying naked on top of a s1ut (possibly just like you), sweating away and banging later tonight. Furthermore, I am not particularly fussy about who in particular lies underneath me and has my sperm blasted all over her face as I am a foreigner visiting town for a few days and besides, meaningful relationships give me the creeps - anyone will do really as long as she is young, slim and s1utty - just like you are. So if you like the idea of me naked sweatily pumping away on top of you, practising my bukkake technique on your face, taking pictures of you naked and then posting them on the web, then lets go back to my flat."

Hmmmm ... not sure this honest Indian approach would lead to much success in Kiev. Is that really how you approach your potential dates in Mumbai?

Mr Looser:
Since when flirting with a girl, getting her in a good mood,, making her feel comfortable and relaxed is called cheating? It is what nature has mandated on all gentelmen of this earth to do for its ladies, and most members on this board seem to realize that, those who don't understand it seem to be loosers, and girls call these men names like weired, freaky... you name it, but they all translate to one word: Looser.

nuff said...

Loser just makes a simple point about taking photographs, "Just ask a girl, if she don't like it, forget it". Thats his point of view. Others may want to write essays about the psychology of tricking women into being photographed. And thats there point of view. Personally I find the a simple open and fun request works best. Please note confuscious, many users of WSG change there name every so often, thus the number of reports is often redundant.

Cheers

No it isnt a simple "yes or no" point. It was actually about exploitation if you read the post. What it has to do with exploitation is anyones guess.

[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]
I thuught the world has changed, its the same medivel times were the strong ruled the weak.

Just do this in our home land america and you know what you up for, Just 'cos East Europe is affordable to the dollar effect. It does not mean to exploit and cheat in just as simple as taking a pic.
[/QUOTE]

As for the dollar effect??? What does that have to do with anything? I use the same dating style in the west... and use the same methods for getting pics of wealthy young London women.

If it ain't about "exploitation", then tell me why we haven't come across a single person in WSG who has dared to show his face with a girl in pictures gallery, they paint themselves black in photo shop and depict the women as if a "congressional medal of honor" to us folks, what an achievement, I bow down.

Why you mean to say it isn't about exploitation, may be it is a stronger word, yet it is about it.

Just please if it ain't about it, I'm yet to see a MAN, stand in shoulders with a *****, women, cutie pie, babe from Ukraine pose with you, inline equal to you and dare you post in WSG picture gallery with your face intact:) and with the same pose that the women does to you, you doing the same in full flare of the camera, just like you would love to see the women do, and to all folks who had already posted it and question or think it ain't cheating or exploitation, please remove your blackend face and post the pics as they are....then it would truly be respectful and responsible to the women you doing with, else i fail to understand , why wouldn't you call it simple trickery, cheating, exploitation, Man its less when you do things unknowlingly, its worse when you know it.

And in the same way, if it ain't about dollar effect, why would you not like to do that, we all know deep down, what we doing, so we hide in the cover of dollar power, let the dollar do all the damage we are safe.

Who would read the post in ukraine, these girls are safe, its the "I" that we are concerned about.

what if i post my pic with a women In WSG, what if my work mates see's it, what if my son sees it , what if my wife sees it, what would be my image or whatever, if it ain't for this or more. WHY WE NEED TO DELETE THE PIC WE HAVE TAKEN WITH A WOMEN and then just post the women's pic doing all sorts of pose.

And if it ain't about "morality and prostitution" and not about "sex with minors"

Yeah! yeah! WSG is just a sex guide, why wouldn't Jackson then encourges sex with minors forum, why would he have charities in Argentina.

Blow off your load In Ukraine and Russia, thats what sex guide is all about, those who want to preach morality should be send to africa as fathers to the needy. This really is a wierd world, were morality is not needed there are thousand ready to preach, and whenever a word of doing and thinking good comes, in an unmoral situation, folks try to throw it out.

BTW, As Simon said, when the server was down couple of months ago, I was not able to log in to my user account, so I had to make a new account, as you say black knight the numbers were lost, I would make sure the next time to check if I'm in line for the higest number of posts.

thx.

Please no argue, my fellow miscreants. Who cares? You think any of these girls are sitting over a computer and spanking it to pictures of Patrick Swayze right now? How many people posting on this board have even been to Ukraine? We do what we do and they do what they do. Personally, I applaud Doc Skank, Roger Mellie, and any one of you who posts any pics up. I'd buy any of you degenerate bastards a beer, any day. Keep the reports and pics coming, spaseeba. This board is the best sandbox on the net. We're all here to play in the sandbox. Remember gentlemen: There is to be no fighting in the War Room!

Peace, love, and pizda.

Binky

could the source of current whining be eminating from
the rectal areas of one of jackson's biggest fans,
the so called "victor malarek", author of the gripping
expose' now available in bookstores everywhere for the
modest price of only $26.95.

well, why haven't you nasty mongers had a peek at this
fascinating read? you're really missing something wonderful,
excuse me i have to vomit.

our ingenious writer, whose name is more likely victoria than victor,
was inspired to take a few magazine and newspaper articles and stretch
them out 200 pages to dupe anyone eager to read selacious details
about prostitutes and willing to cough up the cash to buy this trash.

of course the book is all about the newest trend in
mongering, the "natashas", i.e. the greatest injustice
in the annals of all humanity, slavic prostitutes.

in the book, all slavic ladies live in a world of
innocence and beauty and poverty. one should believe
that their only appropriate future is to be destined to a
lifetime being married to a fine slavic man who drinks,
smokes, and beats them.

this is quite preferable than having any western male
desire them, for we will only provide support for their entire
family as we have our way. you see, except for law enforcement
officers, all other individuals of the male species are described
as uncaring bald, fat, smelly, hairy, with bad breath,
and irresponsible, and we always sweat profusely as we
climax our demon seed into the sex slave ladies.

yes though, the ************* is prominently featured in the book as the
primary impetus behind our sinful desire to spoil the motherland's most
precious resource, no, not oil, but the natashas! according to the author,
posting here is solely about boasting how many orgasms we cause our
delicate dyevuchkas to reach, while we enrich russian organized crime
to the tune of billions.

how does this sound? without the wsg, a travleler would be hard pressed to
get laid in a foreign country. now, a stopover in a metropolis is an orgasmic cost-effective sexual smorgasbord! we can't wait to tell our cybersex brothers about our recent sex tours in pornogrphic detail.

but the best part is where we are told that if we truly cared about dignity, we would all pay the prostitutes and abstain from any physical contact with them. this way, we could end the biggest problem in the world today. :-)

At last got membership upgrade so can now post, (was pretty quick really.)
Only found this site a few days ago, and have to say "what a pleasure!!"

Been wanting a trip to Ukraine to explore all the options available for long time, this site has been outstanding so far, thanks for all the links and the info. Was delighted to hear abt the new visa regulations and will make arrangements to visit Kiev/Ukraine asap.

Am well travelled so far with a few EE capitals under my belt, but never had what you guys would call a real mongering expedition yet. Either past buddies too conservative or married, or been with GF.

Any guys intrested in a trip late may or early june ( dates flexible) then let me know if you're in the market for a wingman. Will be travelling from UK or can hook up in theatre.

Will of course be delighted to update all you gents on return...:))

No fighting in the war room-a classic movie indeed.

If you have moral's, what the hell are you doing on this site. Go bible thump somewhere else.

I live in boring ass North America(Canada), the woman are as cold as the weather. Fat girls have attitude here and think they can get any guy. Woman here are spoilt and want to control you. Most clubs/bars you go to are a sausage-fest, so it reaches the point where you do not bother to go out.

So at night I come on here and escape into fantasy land. Has anyone checked the stats on Ukraine, ONE MILLION more woman than men in the 18 -64 age group.

Ah one day i will reach this far a way place.

I think Born Loser 5 is the Mumbai correspondent for the Kyiv Post.

For those of you who wish to be amused, you should read this recent editorial "The Coming Summer Sex Boom" by the Post's senior editor. The link is here [url]http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/oped/22660/[/url]

I guess this editor apparently does not read his own paper. Come to think of it, not many of us here actually read this so-called "newspaper." For those who do not know, the back pages of the Kyiv Post contain a great many ads for "personal services," "escorts," and "massages." I guess the senior editor does not realize (but soon will) that these ads are a very major source of funding for the paper and pay a substantial part of his salary.

Hehehe, It seems to me that this guy is pissed because he wasn't able to get one of the young devuchkas for himself :) . Maybe if he came here he would get the info he was so lacking in his article :D

I also see that the prices for the apartments on ua-apartments has gone up for the summer season. The fact reamains people are making money so all this will never stop.

Just remember 2 things.

All those Kiev Post escort service ads are really just one or 2 "agencies"
with 14 different telephone numbers, operating with the blessing of
authorities due to thier payment of "special fees", in other words,
sharing the money foreigners bring in to the country. The agencies
advertising are for foreginers, locals aren't calling them, so I don't
think anyone's worried about their sisters and daughters, those ladies
are pros.

Mr. Editor seems more worried about seeing the nice freebie/non-pro
party girls grabbed up by tourists instead of ex-pats. Welcome to
Prague/Tallin etc.!

It was always certain that Kiev was going to become a more difficult (or at least more expensive) playing field with time... both for those pursuing freebies and those opting for pros or those like me, who enjoy both.

This was inevitable, we all agree... however the Orange Revolution and Yuschenko's efforts to make Ukraine "Western" have greatly sped up the process. This "negative" development was all very apparent months ago….

I have long lamented that the economic and social "progress" that some posters seem to get all excited about are in fact tell-tale signs that the party is winding down.

Like it or not, more foreigners pursuing pros in Kiev means higher prices and worse service and more groping tourists in Kiev bars and clubs will eventually lead to standoffish girls ala Tallin and Prague.

The girls will still be there though and it isn’t the end of our fun... for example spoiled Moscow women no longer "need" foreign men but there are still plenty of dyevs happy to date and bed foreign guys nonetheless... but the onslaught of sex tourists which seemigly looms ahead will defintely make our task more difficult and will certainly spoil the joys associated with exploring frontier territory.

The freebie game in Ukraine is sort of weird-- there are no certain rules and if there are any, they're certainly to be decided by the women..

While most guys talk about stories of meeting up a couple of girls per day, they're mostly unaware that almost all those girls are meeting a couple of guys in a day.. trying to get the optimum benefit in all ways..
Is it by coincidence that it's so easy to meet new girls and almost every girl you meet are so willing to leave after a few hours of adventure?

Perhaps the most conspicuous scene even more than Kiev is reflected in Lugansk and Donetsk.

The Donbass region is famous for the most beautiful,intelligent and cunning girls who are each dating virtually with at least 10-15 different western guys..

Hence, the area is flooded with so many foreigners who're too naive in believing a new start-up in life.

Of course, the end result is the spending of a fortune and complete disappointment..

In any way, the action will always be supported by the mere attractiveness of curiosity and will of new adventures...

Vega:

I heard some absolute horror stories when I was in Odessa. I got to know some "popular" girls who told me they keep mail order bride guys on the hook for months without giving them any sex... and these guys shell out thousands to visit them and buy them designer label clothing... and trust me, these girls were nothing special... cute, blonde... but average club quality...tops.

...that's the down side.

The up side is if you have some charm and play your cards right you'll still get laid for the price of 2 rounds of drinks and a box of duty free chocolate.