FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2499875]I don't agree at all with you, prostitution should be strongly forbidden, you can't ignore all the damages create by this industry: when the girls can't prostitute they have to find a normal job, so many prostitutes have addictions which damage strongly their mental health, so many prostitutes work for pimps, BF, this industry is used to wash black money on top of that it will oblige the men to be creative to seduce women and those who are not good enough will just have to masturbate at home, a very good natural selection which will please Darwin.[/QUOTE]It's comical when someone plays a moralist on ISG. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Nothing to see with moral, I just try to share my little knowledge about the P6 scene in Germany, for the he other countries I have no idea just because I never go with prostitute except Germany.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2500045]You don't even have a mongering friend within your circle to discuss about general monering activities privately? Not even your best friend? It doesn't have to be about FKK. I've acquainted some Jap customers who love visiting strip clubs. They seem to be very open in talking about that after work even though it's not FKK. When you get into that kind of conversation, you can skillfully steer the conversation to talk about mongering. LOL. When I was on a business trip to Japan, my local colleague there took me to this place called Angel Kiss in Tokyo. I recall we paid roughly $200 USA Equivalent to get in. That included sitting down with 5 different ladies one at a time to talk and DFK. We could pick the woman from couple dozens walking around. That was pretty cool even though there was no f**king. I thought the Jap people are pretty open to some kind of extra sinful activities which implies to some extent mongering. No?

Not even to a mongering friend? That implies some people in your circle know that you're an occasional or light monger (but not heavy). Right? Is it possible that some of your friends are doing all sort of secret mongering activities like you've without telling you as well? LOL.

I read that you want mongering for life. I'm curious what you would tell your friends or relatives if / when they ask you why you don't have a steady GF or why you're not married or why you stay single? Wouldn't you feel they may kind of wonder about some mongering adventures you may occasionally enage in anyway?[/QUOTE]No, I do not discuss my mongering activities to any of my friends beside two of them know about it little bit, but we do not discuss about it further as we do have vast normal girls around us and this kind of info is the last thing I need to spreading around! Also for business wise, I like to keep very honest and earnest reputation that I actually am, but I do have fault which is I love fucking many stunner level beautiful girls that never get old, so I do love mongering LOL!

It would be nice if I can sit and chat with some of my friends about mongering because some of them are actually hardcore mongers in eastern Europe (they are from there and live there), but I just do not allow myself to do that!

However, those who know are close friends and their mouth is shield and they know about it as they hook me up with stunners in eastern Europe and we take girls in private banya (sauna) which is like a suite room of hotel, but is sauna! It is not that they do not talk because they too monger, it is more friendship Russian mentality thing, they keep their word and actually it is the last thing they care about themselves about fucking prostitutes, they don't care LOL! But they understand that I do care and why I do, our relation go way back more than two decades now!

Having said that, I do enjoy some general mongering related chit chat on forum and sometimes I meet some random nice monger in FKK and enjoy some chat about mongering part of our life and that is always enjoyable and stimulating to talk to same kind and hey many also tend to keep their mouth shut back home especially some of those I met who are married! I met some mongers in FKK from all over Europe, Qatar to some inner USA like Idaho, it is nice memories and make it even more as most likely I will never meet them again!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2499805]Tbh, a monger's financial status and history are irrelevant, don't you think? Strictly, his personal business. I find Mr. Sirioja's monologues honest and amusing. I admit I can't understand all of them, he has an *interesting way of expressing himself* LOL. But he seems to have a childlike enthusiasm for WGs which is quaint and charming. Most of us are jaded, so it is good to see it in his case although he is definitely no spring chicken by his own admission. I personally don't share his obsession with model looks, "woman behavior" as he calls it (I still don't know what he means by it -- to me, all WGs are pretty much the same; it matters a whole lot more if they take the whole dick in their mouth or just a tip, do they take a pounding in doggie or do they wiggle and cheat, do they cut the session at 20 min or even 17 minutes). But Mr. Sirioja is one of the few people still visiting these clubs on a regular basis and I find his observations refreshing.[/QUOTE]Woman behavior mean first to speak nearly like a normal woman, not: zimmer or I want to fuck you, then to have manners like a normal woman and I much prefer a girl who is jealous and say: You do same with others? I don't want you go with others, rather than seeing her kissing or rubbing on others, and in bed, woman reactions, not only a hole to fill. On last night, new Joana at Globe did lead me to make her cum, interesting reaction. Of course, I need beauty, to desire. Model types with long legs are more impressive, but pretty face is the most important. When, when watching girls, I will see only prostitute images, when I won t find anymore woman images, then I will stop. I don t go with prostitute images, I stop with my best girl who fell on this level, for me, she was very angry not to be anymore princess in my words, but she still got business, when I lost princess. But, you don't like me anymore? As she said. No more desire as I answered.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2500183]No, I do not discuss my mongering activities to any of my friends beside two of them know about it little bit, but we do not discuss about it further as we do have vast normal girls around us and this kind of info is the last thing I need to spreading around! Also for business wise, I like to keep very honest and earnest reputation that I actually am, but I do have fault which is I love fucking many stunner level beautiful girls that never get old, so I do love mongering LOL!

It would be nice if I can sit and chat with some of my friends about mongering because some of them are actually hardcore mongers in eastern Europe (they are from there and live there), but I just do not allow myself to do that!

However, those who know are close friends and their mouth is shield and they know about it as they hook me up with stunners in eastern Europe and we take girls in private banya (sauna) which is like a suite room of hotel, but is sauna! It is not that they do not talk because they too monger, it is more friendship Russian mentality thing, they keep their word and actually it is the last thing they care about themselves about fucking prostitutes, they don't care LOL! But they understand that I do care and why I do, our relation go way back more than two decades now!.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you, I guess nobody in my relatives is aware about my mongering activities, I consider that for most of the people to pay for sex is not a performance at all (I also believe this) and doing it is demonstrating a kind of weakness which is never good specially with business partners or family members.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2500183]No, I do not discuss my mongering activities to any of my friends beside two of them know about it little bit, but we do not discuss about it further as we do have vast normal girls around us and this kind of info is the last thing I need to spreading around! Also for business wise, I like to keep very honest and earnest reputation that I actually am, but I do have fault which is I love fucking many stunner level beautiful girls that never get old, so I do love mongering LOL!

Having said that, I do enjoy some general mongering related chit chat on forum and sometimes I meet some random nice monger in FKK and enjoy some chat about mongering part of our life and that is always enjoyable and stimulating to talk to same kind and hey many also tend to keep their mouth shut back home especially some of those I met who are married! I met some mongers in FKK from all over Europe, Qatar to some inner USA like Idaho, it is nice memories and make it even more as most likely I will never meet them again![/QUOTE]Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2500222]Woman behavior mean first to speak nearly like a normal woman, not: zimmer or I want to fuck you, then to have manners like a normal woman and I much prefer a girl who is jealous and say: You do same with others? I don't want you go with others, rather than seeing her kissing or rubbing on others, and in bed, woman reactions, not only a hole to fill. On last night, new Joana at Globe did lead me to make her cum, interesting reaction. Of course, I need beauty, to desire. Model types with long legs are more impressive, but pretty face is the most important. When, when watching girls, I will see only prostitute images, when I won t find anymore woman images, then I will stop. I don t go with prostitute images, I stop with my best girl who fell on this level, for me, she was very angry not to be anymore princess in my words, but she still got business, when I lost princess. But, you don't like me anymore? As she said. No more desire as I answered.[/QUOTE]OK, what you said makes sense. Not sure if I seek the same things as you do but you have a right to pursue who / what you want in the clubs. Good luck.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2500281]Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is true that Germany is not at all well known as a mongering destination. Thank goodness. To some extent, even Amsterdam has that reputation in lay person's mind but not DE. I hope it stays that way. One huge reason is that there is obviously a lot of business activity in EU and in DE in particular. So, the percent of men traveling to DE for purposes other than sex tourism is actually quite large. That may not be so when it comes to Thailand. I do not know because I certainly had no business reason to travel to Thailand. To Korea / Taiwan / HK / SG / Shanghai / Shenzhen but not to Thailand. So, most regular Americans do not associate DE with being a sex destination (yet).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2500281]Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.[/QUOTE]I pretty much agree with almost every word of this. Well written.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2500343]OK, what you said makes sense. Not sure if I seek the same things as you do but you have a right to pursue who / what you want in the clubs. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Of course, I spend my money I work even under covid, to make, as I want and I know what I look for. I never ask anybody about girls. When some guys need to tell me: this girl does everything, then she doesn't interest me much. On the other hand, when guys say from a beauty, she is arrogant princess behavior, then she will interest me. As I wrote, I love to play with princesses if they have manners and the look care. Vulgarity and pornstars, I let for others.

Socially, being married with a beautiful wife telling she found her charming prince, with 2 children, is much more valuable than dark side paying for sex, even so many married guys according to girls. They don t believe me when I say I m not married, and look at me like a alien, when I tell if I had a woman in my life, I would prefer to stay with her, to take care of her, to give her the will to seduce me and to ask me for love, and in bed. No reason to tell about dark side, weekly datcha, when I tell about my holidays skiing or climbing, even people look at me with round eyes: must be exhausting, dangerous. Yes and for adrenaline I love so much. Looking forward skiing, wishing for Christmas best present.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2500281]Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL![/QUOTE]It does not seem like you quit Brazil, so what did you end up doing to throw them off your scent? I have never heard "normal people" connect the dots with Brazil being a sex tourist destination. I didn't even know Brazil was a mongering destination myself, until some mongers in the FKK clubs explained that to me. Their summers are opposite to the northern hemisphere, so if you lived in a place where there are bitter winters, you could always just play it off as Brazil being your annual winter beach getaway.

A middle-aged guy could probably getting away with going to Thailand once without arousing suspicion. Going repeatedly (unaccompanied by a GF or wife) is another story.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2500281]Silence is golden! I don't discuss my mongering activities anywhere except for in forums like this, or with other mongers who I might meet when traveling. Not a single solitary soul in my "normal" life knows, although I know some were suspicious when I started going to Brazil a lot. It's a known sex tourist destination. Just like Thailand, Cambodia, and so on. Anytime a middle-age man tells you he keeps going to southeast Asia because he loves the "architecture", you call bullshit on that immediately LOL! On the other hand, as has been noted, a lot of people still have no clue that Germany (and other European countries like Spain, Switzerland, and Austria) is a super mongering destination. This plays to our favor in terms of keeping the nature of our "movements" under wraps. I can't let it get out that I've been traveling all around the world fucking these pretty girls in their tight, warm butt holes and getting my scrotum suckled by them too. No can do. As a wise friend of mine who has since passed told me once, the best kept secret is one known only to one! I hope to retire some day, and when that happens, I feel like I can relax and ease up a bit. But even then, I think that exercising discretion in terms of who you tell should remain in place.[/QUOTE]I just have few friends who are Eastern European who knows as they hook me up with top stunners when I am in eastern Europe, other than that I never talk about mongering, but I even denounce it LOL!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2500228]I totally agree with you, I guess nobody in my relatives is aware about my mongering activities, I consider that for most of the people to pay for sex is not a performance at all (I also believe this) and doing it is demonstrating a kind of weakness which is never good specially with business partners or family members.[/QUOTE]Even though mongering life is the life style I would like to recommend to all men who like to fulfill their teenage dreams, we did it LOL!

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2500690]It does not seem like you quit Brazil, so what did you end up doing to throw them off your scent? I have never heard "normal people" connect the dots with Brazil being a sex tourist destination. I didn't even know Brazil was a mongering destination myself, until some mongers in the FKK clubs explained that to me. Their summers are opposite to the northern hemisphere, so if you lived in a place where there are bitter winters, you could always just play it off as Brazil being your annual winter beach getaway. A middle-aged guy could probably getting away with going to Thailand once without arousing suspicion. Going repeatedly (unaccompanied by a GF or wife) is another story.[/QUOTE]Again, successful strategy number one is just keeping my mouth shut, and not falling prey to just having to spill the beans and tell somebody. I don't care how many times I go to Brazil or Germany (or wherever). That's my business, and nobody else's. There have been many times when I traveled abroad, and plenty of people didn't even know it. Just slipped away out of town for awhile and came back, and told nobody. The best kept secret is one known only to one!

Now, for people who do happen to know about my travels to Brazil, then your "annual trip" suggestion does indeed work. Hey, I fell in love with the place after the first time I went down there years ago you tell them. The people, the food, the culture, the music, the beach, the nightlife! I'm thinking about retiring down there you say. When it gets cold, time to take a trip! It works. Between that and just keeping my mouth shut about "irrelevant details". Silence is golden! Especially around nosy women. Don't tell them shit!

But, probably the most ironclad cover of all is the "business trip". Your work was going to take you to that place anyway. This is really nirvana for the traveling monger since expensive costs such as your airfare and hotel are covered. You only need adequate funds to procure your tutes. And your reason for being in that place is already legitimately established. I realize that many men simply can't hope for business-related travel that takes them to some of the top mongering destinations in the world. I consider myself to be very, very lucky in this regard.