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[QUOTE=FiftyShades;2136440]Does anyone have any recent experience with the Swissotel in Jing An in the past couple of months or so? Still GF? You could PM me.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there was a year ago and it was relatively inconspicuous hopefully that has not changed as I'm back there soon.
[QUOTE=SamCan;2131472]Right across from big bamboo is a spa that looks like a sauna. I know it's not but I've had enough sex in the hotel room so I go see what's going on. Massage 540. Bubble bath massage and cosplay 2 hours 1000 RMB. I figure WTH. Yolo. I walk in and ther is this super hot babe at the front door I tell the guy I want to see the girl before spending. He points at the hot chick YES! Up the stairs veggie bubble bath minor grazing. I ask to join me. She says no but if your VIP she can. I figure out later it's the dreaded VIP card. She's 24 YO from Sichuan. A really hot number. I rated her a solid 9. Off to the massage room where she begins a great massage her pudong / Sichuan dialect makes it really hard to communicate.
I say zoa ai (make love) about 5 times. She finally says Boom Boom. Yes ! I negotiate 900 RMB for a pop. She's concerned I'm laowai and going to be too big. I convince her I'm not that guy. She drops her clothes and it's like the old American pie movie or something. She's so freaking hot I'm expecting to come right there when she touches me. I grab the condom and her boss yells to her and she yells back stark naked behind the door. I'm distracted. Having trouble with junior but we finally get it In and going on the massage bed.
She is the hottest thing I've banged like ever. Her pussy is tight and I never even got to a strong erection due to distractions. if I saw her at judys I'd pay 2000 every night to bang her once. hell I'd take a number and wait my turn. If you've read my posts. You know I have a 2 pop 1000 RMB rule I try to stick to at judys. For this one I would not care
No kissing no positions down in mish and going at it. The door has glass with plastic over it. I can see fuzzy out the door but the room is dark so you can't see in.
I finish. She's off the bed and trying to sell me the VIP card before my breathing is back.
It was a great experience once this way. and I tried to get her to my hotel. Not happening without a VIP card.
Sorry I got no name but All the girls were at least 7.5 s and up
A little pricey. Definitely not GFE but I'd be there ever weekend and broke if I lived in Shanghai and knew her name[/QUOTE]I also had an experience with the VIP card on a different city, I think it's getting popular these days to keep the trusted clientele to return. On this occasion the top massage of the parlor would only be available to me if I do the card.
I wonder if u paid the extra on top of the normal massage price? Means that the 1000 massage includes no extras?
[QUOTE=Mgp23;2137338]I also had an experience with the VIP card on a different city, I think it's getting popular these days to keep the trusted clientele to return. On this occasion the top massage of the parlor would only be available to me if I do the card.
I wonder if u paid the extra on top of the normal massage price? Means that the 1000 massage includes no extras?[/QUOTE]Years ago I was suckered in buying a VIP card for my (regular) hair dresser. The thing is, one month after I bought it, the current manager left and he took all the cash with him. The new manager therefor had a problem because he had all these customers that bought a VIP card and the money these customers spent on buying the card, was gone. Despite this, the new manager still was forced giving all the customers discounts (as he didn't want to lose them). The old manager also took with him all the decent hairdressers and left the lousy ones behind. So even though I would get a discount, I particularly didn't want to get my hair cut there anymore.
Anyway; bit unrelated but ah well.
[QUOTE=Mgp23;2137338] I wonder if u paid the extra on top of the normal massage price? Means that the 1000 massage includes no extras?[/QUOTE]I can't say for sure as it was my first time there. I can tell you there wasn't anything offered during the bath and beginning of massage. Place inside is high end looking (though showing some wear). Maybe a HJ was included but I doubt much more. Pudong tends to have less saunas (in the old days) as the POPO tend to keep a tighter lid than Puxi in the old city. This place is right on the main road and not hidden like any sauna would be.
It's possible I overpaid, but I truly doubt FS was included. The massage didn't seem to be going that way at all.
She also told me with the VIP card, girls could be delivered to my room at a 40% discount (600RMB). I asked if that included FS when she came to hotel as i was a VIP, she said no, must give her money
[QUOTE=Fugazi99;2135506]I can clearly confirm that most bars are open and operating as usual. Only "Old Manhattan" seemed to be dark.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean. Manhattan's goin' strong.
[QUOTE=TheGuy;2138242]Not sure what you mean. Manhattan's goin' strong.[/QUOTE]Talking about the Girlsbar across from Hilton, not the pick up bar at Portman.
[QUOTE=TheGuy;2138242]Not sure what you mean. Manhattan's goin' strong.[/QUOTE]Old manhattan is a girl bar in a row of girl bars (where you buy the girls drinks and not much else sometimes). It is across from where the HIlton used to be. Not to be confused with Manhattans which is over by Judy's and behind the ritz carlton.
[QUOTE=SamCan;2138639]Old manhattan is a girl bar in a row of girl bars (where you buy the girls drinks and not much else sometimes). It is across from where the HIlton used to be. Not to be confused with Manhattans which is over by Judy's and behind the ritz carlton.[/QUOTE]Ok, sorry man. I've never bothered with those bars.
Just back from Shanghai. Apparently there has been a big police crackdown on the saunas. Detailed previously here no doubt. But Judys and Manhattan are back in full swing. Judys is frankly too loud a band so we quickly ditched that and went to Manhattan. I love it there.
You feel like a king the moment you walk in. There are 30-40 Vietnamese girls and they all want you. (Or make it seem like they do!) if up are new at this, you may even find it a little off putting as they will snuggle up to you and try to convince you to take them home. Some can even be a little pushy. But hey, you are the object of desire for once, so work it baby! Politely decline those that are not your type and just work your way around the room. Go to the little boys room if you need a break from being a piece of meat!
When you find the right one, ask how much. The price being quoted when we were there was 3000 long time (overnight unlimited pops) and 1500 short time ($200 ish one pop presumed). As others have detailed you can probably negotiate less, but wow, for what you are getting its a great deal for me. Pretty much every one of these girls is smoking hot.
First night, took home a hottie who approached me right away. Went back to the Hotel (no problem just walking past desk to elevators) and had a wild time. Showered together. Mostly CBJ but with great attention to the uncovered boys, so it was good anyhow, and mish, and doggie and cowgirl to a first pop. I showered and when I came back she was on her stomach still naked with legs a bit apart. So this led to enjoying my hands on her perfect ass, which led to FIV and led to me extending to long time. We settled up and had our second session. Then snoozed together till about 6 AM when I roused her for round 3. Really great experience all around.
The second night I ended up with a hot little college age number, who even started kissing me in the taxi on the way back. She LOVES DFK, so there was lots of that throughout. We also did mish (while DFK) cowgirl (what a view) and some downward dog. She politely declined DATY with her body language but she was full on BBBJ with a vengeance. So I think YMMV quite a lot with the girls. First was co-Shower, second was not. First was LFK, second was DFK+. First was DATY, second was not. First was CBJ and second was BBBJ. In the end, both were spectacular.
Manhattan remains one of my ATF venues having partaken in Thailand, Russia, you. K. , Spain, Japan, Germany, and Canada. The girls are gorgeous, no possible bait and switch, and excellent performance each time (4 times so far).
BTW, the Blind Pig a few doors down is a great bar and grill. Super place to take in some dinner and drinks while warming up for Manhattan.
[QUOTE=DanMan9696;2139768]Just back from Shanghai. Apparently there has been a big police crackdown on the saunas. Detailed previously here no doubt. But Judys and Manhattan are back in full swing. Judys is frankly too loud a band so we quickly ditched that and went to Manhattan. I love it there.
n.[/QUOTE]You have summed it up accurately and YMMV is the key, you also stated all night is unlimited POPs. Again, YMMV and worth clarification before hand. I took one to my room and after the first pop she wanted to go to sleep. I assume there was another in the am but paid her and threw her out at that point as it wasn't what I had in mind.
I do like both Judy's and Manhattans. I have found that staying at the portman is the best as you can walk there. You can also go back after your round is complete to either hang out at the bar or decide to take home another girl. I know they are not all in love with me but it's a fun illusion while you are there.
[QUOTE=SamCan;2139911]You have summed it up accurately and YMMV is the key, you also stated all night is unlimited POPs. Again, YMMV and worth clarification before hand. I took one to my room and after the first pop she wanted to go to sleep. I assume there was another in the am but paid her and threw her out at that point as it wasn't what I had in mind.[/QUOTE]Someone in a previous thread had good advice, which I took to heart. Just book short time with your Manhattan girl and then depending on chemistry / performance extend to longtime while in the room. This worked well for me.
YMMV is quite accurate. I been visiting Manhattans quite regularly when I've been in town for eight years now and a lot has changed as many can attest. Firstly there has recently been the influx of Chinese guys typically younger guys and they tend to hold court / tables with the younger and prettier girls all of whom are not available while their young men are around. I get the feeling the local guys get the best girls as mistresses but I could be wrong. Used to be the Viet girls had a few issues with Chinese gents but not so much anymore but some continue to have issues with African and Indian guys even though I have seen guys of all types in the bar every time. Then there is the foreign contingent just as you walk in on the left end of the bar, grouped in the corner I met a Colombian there once and took her away but usually there is a sprinkling of Russian that don't really match up to the beauty in the place.
Going there single rather than in a group may not make you as immediately attractive. You may first be set on by the mature ladies while the new girls and younger girls have to wait their turn. You have to be able to say NO Thanks in a firm polite manner many times before you find the time to talk to the girl you have your eyes on and if you can't find a way to do that you're going to be wasting a lot of time. There was this young lady I used to see frequently and had her number so I called her out to the hotel a few times during the day she told me there is a hierarchy or girl mafia sort of thing going on there lots of cliques and lots of competition between groups. Service used to be better in my humble opinion there were nights you could leave early and she would sleep till late and morning sex was a given if you like that sort of thing. Now if you take a girl away early most of the time she wants to come back to the bar to hook up again after midnight. Which is why its always better to lay it all out before you take her out every time also if you repeat with the same girl it usually gets better. Its also very easy to do threesomes and a girl will often ask if you to take her friend as well and they are receptive to a deal on the cost. I get the feeling the aren't always treated well and sometimes they insist on knowing which hotel you are staying at down to seeing the key card.
Saunas are different they tend to be better more hedonistic its about you in the saunas and the level of service can be better than anything else you may have experienced anywhere else. Had my first red rope experience at 999 many years back. Bodi was great for a while and the other sauna next to the bund became my favourite they had model type girls which was a new price differentiation scheme the girls would have letters and letters denote beauty but not always service. Shanghai Nightlife Guide was simply the best for providing info and its really terrible that they aren't around a huge blow to guys that can't speak the language or have inside info I find that unlike other countries the doormen at the hotels can be clueless and I don't always trust asking them I have often received many bad looks walking into the hotel with a girl from Manhattan on my arms I also don't always trust the taxi drivers and I don't speak the language so getting local info is very hard. I hope saunas will pop up again I think they are part of the culture I have been to many that were mostly Chinese guys the level of commerce must be huge because some of the places seemed so vast so many rooms so many sauna girls. Been to a sauna once opposite a Hilton and it was packed many times you have to wait a long time to get to the fishbowl. Shanghai won't be the same without the saunas and I really hope SNL gets up and running with info again or find some way of disseminating info about the saunas again.
Hi,
I've got a medical related question. Does anyone know if we are less likely to catch an STD from a water BJ vs a normal uncovered BJ? I had water BJ before and they can be quite amazing. I noticed they use mouthwash as water.
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=Zhushak;2144071]Hi,
I've got a medical related question. Does anyone know if we are less likely to catch an STD from a water BJ vs a normal uncovered BJ? I had water BJ before and they can be quite amazing. I noticed they use mouthwash as water.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Mouthwash isn't going to help against viral mst.
If you want to lower the risk only getting covered will protect you (and even then not 100% but still more than without cover).
Also, you should speak with a medical professional about STD risks rather than a bunch of anonymous mongers online.