German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2231715]Hi KK,

Thanks for the compliment. Truth be told, I am just an amateur compared to most of you guys here, a mere dilettante -- but I like to think I write honest reviews here. That comment you referenced was somewhat tongue in cheek: "If a girl wanted to rip a guy off, how extreme it can get?" Are there such sessions happening? Probably, at least a few. Hopefully a small minority. I have no doubt many girls aspire to such sessions and almost no girls would be sorry if many of their sessions ended in such manner.

But it was in reply to the question "would and't girls prefer smaller dicks / soft dicks / etc". As Neuro said, I think the answer is no. Slow and soft bangers may not hurt the pussy but tend to occupy the full hour and for most girls that is not so attractive. I know this first hand, because I squarely fall into that category -- at first I used to think "I must be a great customer from the pov of the girls". Then I did not see all of them being so enthusiastic about repeat sessions with me. Then I realized it is not me personally, it was my tendency to take full hour. I considered what to do about this and decided "nothing". I take many sessions knowing full well that I will not finish in most of them, and hence I will try to at least drag it on till the end even if some/many girls are annoyed and irritated.[/QUOTE]If I understood well you are fucking the girls has long they can accept it without coming even it can last 1 hour, probably you should ask yourself why you have to behave like that, to showing this kind of power to poor girls from Romania, when the man are strong and powerful they don t need to demonstrate it, but may be I am wrong. Probably you are taking some blue pills.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2231683]And you write an honest report with the prices that you are being offered and you are vilified for it. If I wrote some bullshit that I was offered everything for 50 Euro /30 minute session would that make it so? I would have been perpetuating a myth. Some girls will and some won't. I call em like I see them.[/QUOTE]I found your report on the prices offered you to be helpful. I was, and this is just my personal campaign, cheered that you tried to resist.

As for 50 for 30 all included sessions, they are not so hard to find, but this varies from club to club. So if you find one, please write.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2231833]I found your report on the prices offered you to be helpful. I was, and this is just my personal campaign, cheered that you tried to resist.

As for 50 for 30 all included sessions, they are not so hard to find, but this varies from club to club. So if you find one, please write.[/QUOTE]Thanks Optimist.

Yes, and I had three 50 Euro /30 minute sessions at Sharks in my September campaign at Sharks. So they can be had there too. I am just more attracted to the more popular girls that would not go to the room for that. My way to get them into a reasonable price is to offer to pay for an extra service like a [U]BJ that i like[/U] with a [U]finish that I like [/U] and that didn't work for several of them. And when the girls dig in their heels they can be adamant. I can think of only two occasions in FKK land where the negotiation was at an impasse and the girl came down to my price (Anastasia in March and Claudia last trip). My experience is that either the girl will say OK right away without much negotiating or they dig in their heels and say no.

I believe that you are right that there are other clubs where the 50 E /30 minute session is a matter of course. I remember my one visit of the Living Room to be that way but that was only two data points in 1 day.

I will say the following:

I have never had a BJ with a cover ever in any FKK.

You are right about familiarity and getting a better deal. Here is my data using Gina of Sharks as an example:

March. Approached Gina for a 30 min 50 E date and she told me to take a hike. She was quite disturbed by my offer and I don't think I would of had her at nay reasonable price.

September. Approached Gina with 100 E /1 hour and had a great time with two Shots on Goal (SOG).

September +1 week. I approached Gina again a week after our successful date and I said "let's do the same as last week" and we went to the room for an hour but we cut the date short after the first SOG and we cut the date short and she charged me 50 E /30 minutes.

So you see by the above example that regular customers will get better pricing and better deals than the sex tourists.

I also have two examples of where your favorite girl can take advantage of you in the room and decide she is going to just snuggle in the room. This was something else you had mentioned.

Next trip I promise to branch out a little more and do some more exploring of other clubs. I will return to Sharks because I like the atmosphere, there are a lot of good girls there, and besides, I like the Sauna team and Dieters sauna treatments.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2231922]Thanks Optimist.

Yes, and I had three 50 Euro /30 minute sessions at Sharks in my September campaign at Sharks. So they can be had there too. I am just more attracted to the more popular girls that would not go to the room for that. My way to get them into a reasonable price is to offer to pay for an extra service like a [U]BJ that i like[/U] with a [U]finish that I like [/U] and that didn't work for several of them. [/QUOTE]Your reviews were informative and entertaining as well and my references weren't aimed at you, in fact I think you hit nail on the head that the top of the LU for most part is not going for 50 wedding nights more so the next tier down or below. Your negotiating method presented is a very respectable one, I try something similar at times.

I am sure some long timers and regular guys (perhaps grandfathered in at low rates) or local Germans who know the best days to go like we do here ' when rent is due' might get more value out of a 50 but in general I do not think the average John is walking in and getting 50 Euro all inclusive services. If they are all the power to them. Some of my opinions were not always related to reviews but also to comments and replies. But my opinion is just that, others may interpret differently. That is the wonder of these sites, one can post as they wish and one can read as they wish and decipher what others have chosen to share in a manner they choose whether they want to take what was posted at face value or with a grain of salt or no grain of salt or anywhere in between.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2231922]Thanks Optimist..[/QUOTE]I had the same experience with a girl that gave me CIM for free after our third session together. It basically has to do on how well you know and respect each other.

On the other hand there are some girls that not only provide better service and pricing but ask for more as a tip.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2231833]I found your report on the prices offered you to be helpful. I was, and this is just my personal campaign, cheered that you tried to resist.

As for 50 for 30 all included sessions, they are not so hard to find, but this varies from club to club. So if you find one, please write.[/QUOTE]Optimist let us be a little bit serious obviously I have a lot of them 50 euros for 30 minutes with great girls but will I share it definitively not.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2230813]On the other hand, many girls also prefer to turn around a session fast. The idea is to get it done in a 10 to 15 min session. One minute of smooching + cuddling, 2 1/2 minutes of half hearted BJ, followed by a few strokes in which the guy finishes, preferably with a CIM, and even better some anal. All completed in 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]This is how some WGs choose to operate. I think I've uttered similar words, although I may not have quantified it with numbers as well as you did. It was in response to ISGers whenever they said something along the lines of "How can WGs be so myopic? How can WGs be so stupid and not understand the value of earning repeat business?" My response was that these WGs are NOT stupid. These WGs observe other WGs. They talk to other WGs. They have a general idea of what the "sweet" WGs make and a general idea of what the WGs who choose the "dark side" make. And they adopt the style that works best for them (or what they are able to tolerate).

Like you said, some WGs can make 200 EUR in 15 minutes of work. If these WGs can find 3 suckers per day, that is 600 EUR. And only 45 minutes of actual customer facing time. 600 EUR earned may not put them in the 95th percentile of top-earners, but guess what, these WGs can spend 15 hours of the day smoking and speaking Romanian with their friends. This is how WGs who hate their job keep their sanity. That is worth more than money.

As Craiova used to say, most WGs hate their customers (or they hate their jobs and customers become simply the target of that hatred). Most WGs are able to hide their hatred to a certain degree. But pretending to like someone you hate "full-time" has a mental cost. It is mentally exhausting. That's why some WGs don't mind having their head buried in the pillow, taking it doggy for 5-10 minutes. They don't have to talk. They don't have to pretend to be interested in what the customer has to say. They need not be mentally engaged. And when they are not mentally engaged, they can mentally check out and imagine themselves being in their "happy place".

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2231932]Your reviews were informative and entertaining as well and my references weren't aimed at you, in fact I think you hit nail on the head that the top of the LU for most part is not going for 50 wedding nights more so the next tier down or below. Your negotiating method presented is a very respectable one, I try something similar at times.
.[/QUOTE]Thanks KK: I think this got buried in another thread so I will repost here:

You can see from my reports on ISG that I first came to FKK land to the mega clubs circa 2011. At the time a Monger like myself only needed enough for entry fee and and four, 50 Euro bills. Three of the 50 Euro bills were for each of the three sessions and you held back one 50 Euro bill in case you had an accidental discharge in a WG's mouth. Those were the days. I had returned to the FKK scene in the Frankfurt area last year just prior to the new law and things had changed. However, I adapted. I was told just give them 100 E for the hour and you will have the date you wanted. This seemed to work for awhile with most girls but I have to say that someone has moved my cheese again! So I tried the tact of 100 E for 30 minutes but I tried to negotiate an extra service like a [U] BJ that I like[/U] with a [U]finish that I like [/U] and this worked for a few girls. However, some girls wouldn't even go for this and they wanted 150 E /30 minutes with the extra services and they were adamant. And liked Misha said, there are tiers of girls at Sharks. If I want to pay less than I should go with the old ones or the not so pretty ones. My retort was come back when you agree to my offer and she said "I will never. " And she was right about one thing: The girls I was attracted to the most often seemed to want to go to the room for no less than the 100 E /30 minutes for a GFE date and they wouldn't throw in the extra service. And this was not the word of two tutes. This was with several girls and I think it was no coincidence that it was with some of the girls I considered the hottest in the club. A GFE session was going for 100 E for 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2228393]I don't know guys. I think that maybe after a decade and a half of mongering I'm starting to get bored with it. I mean, how many times can you get your dick sucked and "skeet" in a pretty girl's lips or fuck hot girls in the butt before you get tired of it? I mean, what's next? Has anybody else here come to this point in your mongering career, or perhaps already been there but found some way to overcome and continue to enjoy the hobby?[/QUOTE]I have found solid hot 5 10 tall hot girl friend who wants to marry me. I think everyone on this forum has a soul of Hugh Hefner within them and therefore we won't quit this hobby. The magic word is curiosity. We all are men who want to keep exploring their manhood which is good. I did felt once or twice that got bored of this same routine but life is too short to explore your sexual manhood worldwide. You might be bored if you only focus on one country but there are over 200 countries. This life is very short to even explore 25% of the world beauty and that's if your lucky. I liked someone review on this forums who compared sex like eating food. You want to eat different kind of food and sex is similar. Nevertheless, I don't know how you are bored as you haven't even touched 10% of the beauty yet. Imagine Hugh Hefner who used to bang playmates of the month every month for 5 decades. Come on. Your bored already. Its a marathon.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2232118]Thanks KK: I think this got buried in another thread so I will repost here:

You can see from my reports on ISG that I first came to FKK land to the mega clubs circa 2011. At the time a Monger like myself only needed enough for entry fee and and four, 50 Euro bills. Three of the 50 Euro bills were for each of the three sessions and you held back one 50 Euro bill in case you had an accidental discharge in a WG's mouth. Those were the days. I had returned to the FKK scene in the Frankfurt area last year just prior to the new law and things had changed. However, I adapted. I was told just give them 100 E for the hour and you will have the date you wanted. This seemed to work for awhile with most girls but I have to say that someone has moved my cheese again! So I tried the tact of 100 E for 30 minutes but I tried to negotiate an extra service like a [U] BJ that I like[/U] with a [U]finish that I like [/U] and this worked for a few girls. However, some girls wouldn't even go for this and they wanted 150 E /30 minutes with the extra services and they were adamant. And liked Misha said, there are tiers of girls at Sharks. If I want to pay less than I should go with the old ones or the not so pretty ones. My retort was come back when you agree to my offer and she said "I will never. " And she was right about one thing: The girls I was attracted to the most often seemed to want to go to the room for no less than the 100 E /30 minutes for a GFE date and they wouldn't throw in the extra service. And this was not the word of two tutes. This was with several girls and I think it was no coincidence that it was with some of the girls I considered the hottest in the club. A GFE session was going for 100 E for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]The girls are free to fix their prices, probably you are looking like tourist (you don't speak German) therefor they fix this kind of price structure, never forget that the clubs are controlled by the Romanian girls mafia, 80% have a BF, pimp or are married there interest is to suck as much cash as possible by giving as less service as possible.

It is amazing to realize how society evolved as we advance into the future.

Years ago, not so long ago, beautiful women are available for only few and if you want two at same time to your choice it was available for only much fewer few like king or such.

However, with evolution of prostitution industries in all platforms, we now can hand pick our selection of beautiful young girls as we want it for very reasonable cost.

Once upon a time, most girls works in brothel are not exactly young and most beautiful, now we find young and very beautiful girls at certain brothels if we bother to and have courage to research and travel.

This is amazing stand point and I sure like the view.

Rather than recounting how good or how poor an FKK was the day before, mongers with internet access who encounter a noteworthy situation upon arrival would send in a short notification for the benefit of other mongers within range. The date, the time and a one-liner like "LU rocks", or "Sausage fest" or "Few girls and few men" would suffice. Alternatively, such alerts could be posted in the relevant thread for each FKK. The idea is to spread any good or bad news proactively rather than write up a "good" report about it when it's too late.

[QUOTE=XXL;2232274]Rather than recounting how good or how poor an FKK was the day before, mongers with internet access who encounter a noteworthy situation upon arrival would send in a short notification for the benefit of other mongers within range. The date, the time and a one-liner like "LU rocks", or "Sausage fest" or "Few girls and few men" would suffice. Alternatively, such alerts could be posted in the relevant thread for each FKK. The idea is to spread any good or bad news proactively rather than write up a "good" report about it when it's too late.[/QUOTE]Well it is lounge and chat here, so it is more laid back relaxed on sofa kinda conversations, so I think anything goes, if one do not like the contents of others, maybe skipping through it is efficient way rather than controlling it like German authority is trying to control our BBBJ LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2232182]It is amazing to realize how society evolved as we advance into the future.

Years ago, not so long ago, beautiful women are available for only few and if you want two at same time to your choice it was available for only much fewer few like king or such.[/QUOTE]Enjoying your well spoke articulation Mr Ho across so many your posts and to harmonize with your philosophies! Upon discover of FKK, I wish I had never marry long ago to fail in divorces several year ago. Simpler to have original avoid my hideous marriage, it such waste of energy time false love. Ah, instead to save and invest moneys for passive income streams, enjoy career and hobbies, occasionally bask in the hospitality of FKK as of now.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2195394]Soon after I arrive, my sight is fixed on this tiny little exotic girl. Name is Zainab. She claims half Turkish half Rom ethnicity. Absolutely my typical optical spec. Lithe body, tiny creature, around 5 ft tall, small delicious tits; some freckles on the face.[/QUOTE]Can confirm Zeynep is amaze girl. She is gift from Gods. However, believe name spelled "Zeynep" as it is likely Turkish. "Zainab" is Paki, and she is not Paki.

Interesting as she have top optic exotic Middle Eastern facial structure, dark hair and brow, olive skin combined with all-natural girl next door spinner body; I recall she is this wonderful natural pink in all her sensitive places, with? No body hair perhaps from Romanian genes.

Enjoying richness of her exotic company to contrast my pale albino-ness. Eye contact excellent if you treat her as gentleman and take slow with long session.