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[QUOTE=Tiny12;2789846]Thanks. No meltdown from Tooms though. He's just using this as a chance to recycle the same items we've already discussed ad nauseam.[/QUOTE]Yes, his satire is getting stale. He risks losing his crown as the forum king of comedy unless he gets some new material.
Further to the recent discussion on illiteracy and education, a report has emerged that 23 schools in Baltimore city, an urban, heavily-democrat area, does not have a single student who has reached age-level math proficiency.
Not a single student.
We are not talking advanced math, but simply the accepted age-level proficiency. Out of many thousands of Baltimore city students, not a single one is proficient.
[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/baltimore-parent-demands-action-23-schools-report-no-math-proficiency-systematically-failing[/URL]
What is particularly interesting is the table that I have attached, which shows that far from being underfunded, as is the standard fake leftist claim, Baltimore public schools have the third highest per-student spending of all school districts in the entire country!
(New York has by far the highest spending per student, which again begs the question why the NYC illiteracy rate is twice that of neighboring Vermont, but that's a different story).
Quote from the article: "And when you see other counties thriving, why is it that counties such as Montgomery County, Howard County, those counties are able to thrive, but why is Baltimore City systematically failing continuously year over year?" she questioned.
So, we know it is not a lack of funding that has prevented 23 urban democrat schools from having a single student proficient in math. Quite the opposite in fact. Any other ideas from the resident leftists?
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2789833]I ask you to point out exactly where I've engaged in hate speech. And you reply with another condescending comment from Paulie the "Moderate."
I've posted that I'd love to see Tim Scott and Nikki Haley on the Republican presidential ticket in 2024. If that happens who would you vote for Spidy? That's a rhetorical question. You'd vote for the old white guy.[/QUOTE]LOL. True.
They can never point out exactly what you said that they claim was "hate speech", because if they did you could prove it to be true. So instead they just shriek a nebulous, vague term, amplified by the fake news and hollyweird, and hope that people don't notice or ask questions.
The good news is, more and more people are noticing and asking questions.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2790185]Yes, his satire is getting stale. He risks losing his crown as the forum king of comedy unless he gets some new material.[/QUOTE]If you and other wingers continue to repeat easily debunked idiocy like "the disadvantaged in America" have been harmed more by consistent Dem boom times, economic expansions and historic jobs creation while consistent Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Repub Massive Jobs Destruction has been better for them, how in the world can someone with at least a modicum of patriotism and love for America resist posting the same, utterly irrefutable and inarguable historical data and actual record of results revealing that idiocy for what it is? LOL.
Especially since it is so easy to do and, ya' know, might somewhere, sometime reduce enough Repub and pro Repub Bothsider or Neithersider influence from helping their beloved Repubs win an election somewhere and thereby improve conditions for America rather than shit on America.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2789846]Thanks. No meltdown from Tooms though. He's just using this as a chance to recycle the same items we've already discussed ad nauseam.[/QUOTE]Yeah, he posted this stupid shit about Trump being anti-vax (even though he developed the vaccine) and made him out to the be the leader of the anti-vax movement while in actuality Trump was encouraging to get people vaxxed and no one corrected him.
This was probably the greatest insult on TV I had ever seen.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Ksoizbl2s[/URL]
"I feel bad for you. ".
"I do not think about you at all. ".
Everything Tooms does is Republican bad, Democrat good that it is a point of absurdity. It does not matter that Trump spear headed the development of the vaccine. There is nothing any Republican president has ever done that is good in the history of the country. If you point out that Trump developed the vaccine, he will find someone else to give credit for the vaccine. It is predictable.
So why would anyone correct Tooms or read him anymore? You already know what he is going to say.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2789833]I ask you to point out exactly where I've engaged in hate speech. And you reply with another condescending comment from Paulie the "Moderate."[/QUOTE]
Brother Tiny 12, I never said, [b]you engaged in hate speech.[/b] I made the OBSERVATION (as others BMs have). Again, its simply an OBSERVATION, don't loose any sleep over it. Just bearing witness to the indoctrination. But hey...you do you!
[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2789833]I've posted that I'd love to see Tim Scott and Nikki Haley on the Republican presidential ticket in 2024. If that happens who would you vote for Spidy? That's a rhetorical question. You'd vote for the old white guy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, whatever...kkkk! That is of course, assuming they can even make it pass the [i]"big orange door stop"[/i], you know, [i]the fat white guy with the orange skin.[/i]
Personally, I'm hoping for the heavyweight match up between, Trump vs. DeSantis (aka. "Agent Orange" vs "Meatball Ron"). Should be a doozy!
However, the better question you should be asking yourself is, if the "fat white guy with the orange skin", becomes the Repub's nominee for presidential ticket, [b]would YOU STILL VOTE for HIM, again?[/b]
Great piece by Vijay Prashad on the CIA.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8xsfsHQnQ[/URL]
For all those ignorant folks that argue socialism never succeeds due to inherent econimc weaknesses, look no further that this short video.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2790183]Interesting that your side are in favor of restricting and even punishing opposing political speech on social media, but you support the homosexual and transsexual grooming of small children, which is what DeSantis's law seeks to prevent.
Readers will draw their own conclusions as to your true motivations.[/QUOTE]And yet I have seen no posts from you saying how Donnie the Dumbass was [B]absolutely fucking wrong[/B] when he had his minions contact Twitter and demand that they remove a post that was critical of Donnie the Dumbass.
Can you even spell hypocrisy correctly?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2790289]Yeah, he posted this stupid shit about Trump being anti-vax (even though he developed the vaccine) and made him out to the be the leader of the anti-vax movement while in actuality Trump was encouraging to get people vaxxed and no one corrected him.
This was probably the greatest insult on TV I had ever seen.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Ksoizbl2s[/URL]
"I feel bad for you. ".
"I do not think about you at all. ".
Everything Tooms does is Republican bad, Democrat good that it is a point of absurdity. It does not matter that Trump spear headed the development of the vaccine. There is nothing any Republican president has ever done that is good in the history of the country. If you point out that Trump developed the vaccine, he will find someone else to give credit for the vaccine. It is predictable.
So why would anyone correct Tooms or read him anymore? You already know what he is going to say.[/QUOTE]You just don't get it Elvis. It was the Trump Pandemic. HAHAHAHAHA.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2790312]However, the better question you should be asking yourself is, if the "fat white guy with the orange skin", becomes the Repub's nominee for presidential ticket, [b]would YOU STILL VOTE for HIM, again?[/b][/QUOTE]I never voted for Trump. I wouldn't vote for Trump for dogcatcher. If you wouldn't do business with a man, you shouldn't vote for him. That doesn't mean that I believe everything he and his administration did was bad. I give him credit where credit is due. I haven't fallen into the "Republican Good, Democrat Bad" trap.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2789960]LOL. That is some sick shit, dude.[/QUOTE]Democratic Party policies would take the United States where European welfare states are now. That would result in a 30% drop in median equivalent adult income adjusted for purchasing power if we turned out like Germany, and a 40% drop if we turned out like France. And yeah, that is some sick shit dude.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_household_and_per_capita_income[/URL]
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2790412]And yet I have seen no posts from you saying how Donnie the Dumbass was [B]absolutely fucking wrong[/B] when he had his minions contact Twitter and demand that they remove a post that was critical of Donnie the Dumbass.
Can you even spell hypocrisy correctly?[/QUOTE]PVM, I have Spidy on ignore because all he does is name call. When you call someone the devil, you are done IMO because you are calling me and everyone who voted for him, 75 million people, evil, and that means you do not have a functioning brain when it comes to difference of opinion. If you look at the red-blue divide as good versus evil, I am done with you.
Xpartan is so factually challenged I had to put him on ignore. He would challenge my facts and was too lazy to look them up. All you dumb dems attack the source but with him it was to excess, and I got sick of it. I am not debating someone that ignorant. Give me your sources and I will attack them? Nah, fuck you for being so damned lazy. You are on ignore. You are too factually challenged for me to care about your opinion.
Tooms comment about people not owning their own money and the vaccine and Trump finished him for me. His posts are so Dems good, Republicans bad, no one needs to read what he says. Every post is the same. He is like Bagdad Bob in the Iraq war.
So you are it, PVM, the last of the Democratic debaters I have not judged completely whacko. I do not mind and even like to debate different points of view. The name calling though is too much with Trump. He has been out of office for 3 years and this stupid name calling, where you all like try to insult him the hardest, is getting way old. We know you do not like him. Calling him Donnie the dumbass makes me shut off my brain.
For example, with the vaccine, Trump is vulnerable to attack. There was no consideration for the virus evolving and becoming resistant to the vaccine. The payment system to the drug companies was too generous as was the clause for immunity from lawsuits. So why be like Tooms and just make shit up about Trump instead of attacking him where he may have messed up?
Now I would argue that Biden screwed up even worse with the vaccine, but you notice I am not calling Biden any names.
If you cannot respect the opposing POV and constantly be calling Trump Donnie the dumbass and his supporters, the moron brigade, then you are the same as Spidy. You want to call me a moron because of my views on a certain issue, have at it.
If you are calling me a moron because I voted for Trump and you do not even care to understand the reasons why, because Trump is a dumb ass and anyone who votes for Trump is a moron, then I am doing the equivalent of debating someone in a cult, and the debate is, Republicans evil and Dems good, and that is a total waste of everyone's time including mine.
So your name calling, unless it is on a specific issue, is not helping your POV. It is weakening it. By constantly repeating the name calling, you put yourself in the same cult like mindset Spidy and Tooms are in.
If we know it what you all are going to post before we read it, we are just going to mentally put you on ignore.
So quit with the name calling and provide the example and link of them asking to take down a tweet critical of Trump. You are saying Republicans believe in censorship too. So show me the example. That is how you make your point and earn some respect. Be The one Democrat on here I can disagree with their POV and actually have some respect for.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2789965]And in case it wasn't clear I never said you were. All I'm saying is that I kind of expected at least some of his musings to make you cringe.[/QUOTE]My Aunt, a lifelong Democrat, was walking on the beach in Galveston and saw a mixed race child. She said "They should just kill that child." That makes me cringe, even more so now that I have a mixed race son.
An acquaintance of mine in college made me cringe when he told me he'd kill me if he needed to do that to improve the gene pool. I saw him change seats in a class once because he didn't like the race of the person who sat beside him. He was very smart. I believe he ended up getting a PhD from Stanford.
Chris is not going to make me cringe. Yeah, he may be a little overly politically incorrect from time to time. But usually he's just pointing out the truth. If we ignore the truth, in order to blame everything bad on Republicans or Democrats, without recognizing the real problems, how are we going to fix anything? Take for example Chris' excellent post on the Baltimore school system:
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2790193]Further to the recent discussion on illiteracy and education, a report has emerged that 23 schools in Baltimore city, an urban, heavily-democrat area, does not have a single student who has reached age-level math proficiency....What is particularly interesting is the table that I have attached, which shows that far from being underfunded, as is the standard fake leftist claim, Baltimore public schools have the third highest per-student spending of all school districts in the entire country![/QUOTE]That's totally insane! I read an article on the subject on a local television stations web site, and in addition to the 23 schools than had no students meeting minimum math standards, there were 20 more in which only one or two students met the minimum. And this is in Maryland, one of the most educated states in the country.
We need things like charter schools, vouchers for poor parents to use to fully pay for private schools, and teachers who produce results, whose first priority is their students instead of their unions. We've got all that where I live, a red city in a red county in a red state.
My sister-in-law is a bilingual teacher in my community. She takes kids who can't even speak English, and by the end of the first year, the majority of the kids are ahead of the English speakers. They don't have a problem with reading or math. She and her partner have to work 60 hours a week though to produce the results they do.
And I don't want to put all the blame on Democrats. Extending the expanded, refundable (you don't have to pay income taxes to use it) child care credit for truly needy families would be a good idea. Someone here, maybe PVMonger, pointed out a couple of red states where the poor school districts ended up with a lot less financial support than the wealthier ones. There's room for improvement there too.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2790289]Yeah, he posted this stupid shit about Trump being anti-vax (even though he developed the vaccine) and made him out to the be the leader of the anti-vax movement while in actuality Trump was encouraging to get people vaxxed and no one corrected him.
This was probably the greatest insult on TV I had ever seen.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Ksoizbl2s[/URL]
"I feel bad for you. ".
"I do not think about you at all. ".
Everything Tooms does is Republican bad, Democrat good that it is a point of absurdity. It does not matter that Trump spear headed the development of the vaccine. There is nothing any Republican president has ever done that is good in the history of the country. If you point out that Trump developed the vaccine, he will find someone else to give credit for the vaccine. It is predictable.
So why would anyone correct Tooms or read him anymore? You already know what he is going to say.[/QUOTE][B]Trump Baselessly Claims Coronavirus Will Go Away Without Vaccine[/B]
[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/trump-baselessly-claims-coronavirus-will-go-away-without-vaccine/[/URL]
[B]Donald Trump says coronavirus will 'go away without a vaccine' - video[/B]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/may/09/donald-trump-coronavirus-will-go-away-without-a-vaccine-video[/URL]
[B]'It's going to disappear':
A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/[/URL]
BTW, if Dear Leader was ever perceived by his slavish followers who hang on his every word to be "pro vaccine", why did this happen?
[B]Trump reveals he got COVID-19 booster shot; crowd boos him[/B]
[URL]https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-74abcd4e6833835f5df445fe2142e22b[/URL]
Oh, and why did he do this?
[B]Donald Trump, Melania got COVID-19 vaccine in secret before leaving office[/B]
[URL]https://globalnews.ca/news/7671671/donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-secret/[/URL]
What was this about?
[B]Trump Admits He Got Vaccine Booster in Secret, Skipping Photo-Op That Could Save Lives.
Donald Trump has declined three times in the past year to try to save the lives of his fans by having himself photographed getting vaccinated against Covid-19.[/B]
[URL]https://theintercept.com/2021/12/21/trump-admits-he-got-vaccine-booster-shot-in-secret-skipping-photo-op-that-could-save-lives/[/URL]
You want to correct me by refuting that that was Trump's repeated message and attitude about there being virtually no reason for anyone to bother inventing a vaccine, much less taking one, and that he didn't even want to admit that he got vaccinated when his doing so would have saved lives?
Ok, you're on. We're all waiting.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2790527]Democratic Party policies would take the United States where European welfare states are now. That would result in a 30% drop in median equivalent adult income adjusted for purchasing power if we turned out like Germany, and a 40% drop if we turned out like France. And yeah, that is some sick shit dude.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_household_and_per_capita_income[/URL][/QUOTE]But that didn't happen.
What did happen was Repub policies and stewardship led us directly into the half dozen or more Great Depressions, Great Recessions and Massive Job Losses of the past 100 years and none of the historic expansions and job gains while Dem policies and stewardship resulted in the exact opposite.
Welcome to the Real World and not academic theory.