Yeah, to be really precise there are many things to consider. Rooms can generate more Euros per HR.
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Yeah, to be really precise there are many things to consider. Rooms can generate more Euros per HR.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1972057]Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.[/QUOTE]These days in Sharks, it is extremely rare for even a super stunner to earn 3000 euros a day, the chance could be once a year!
Per my recent visit of Sharks (November 12), I noticed that several well-known hot girls left club before 1 am. There were at most 12 hours for them staying in club. The pure chargeable time would be 8 hours after deducting overhead time. So the collection money would only be 800 euros without extra for each of these girl, whom were supposed to be very busy.
Here I'd like to give an example to explain the overhead time is actually larger for even a hot girl. I went to room with one such hot girl. I approached to her when she was just available after refresh. In about 10 minutes she finished smoking, we went upstairs around 8 pm. There are 6-7 couples before us. At 8:30 pm we got room. In order to compensate and please her, I extended the secession to 1.5 hours. We finished around 10 pm, she then went back to refresh. I saw her came out around 10:20 pm, and almost immediately an Asian guy came to meet her. They went upstairs around 10:30 pm and started the cycle. I happened to notice that the girl left around 12 am.
So from 7:50 pm to 12 am, the beautiful girl seemed to be with clients all the time, but she only earned 250 euros (apparently the Asian gave her one hour session) in about 4 hours quality time. She started to work around noon as she told me and got four rooms before we met. So I concluded that she earned about 650 - 900 euros in 6 sessions that day. It was Saturday and she stayed in club for about 12 hours.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972155]Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
[/QUOTE]Doesn't really matter for calculating girl's income as they are not constantly booked during a 12 h shift. Number of rooms is what matters. If a 60 min session lasts only 45 or 55 min doesn't matter.
HB.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1972057]Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.[/QUOTE]You're numbers are way off.
HB.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1972080]If Anja really goes to work at Globe, You can have her for 95 for entry with good foods and 140 for the room. You can pay in CHF, , USD, credit card.[/QUOTE]Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1972202]Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?[/QUOTE]I always pay entry with credit card charged 10% , so I don't know. I know for History Basel Liestal where you can pay entry 65 in €, but no foods. Excellent brunch on Sunday at Globe.
You can pay girls in € or USD.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1972202]Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?[/QUOTE]They accept EUR. Don't know about USD.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1972194]Doesn't really matter for calculating girl's income as they are not constantly booked during a 12 h shift. Number of rooms is what matters. If a 60 min session lasts only 45 or 55 min doesn't matter.
HB.[/QUOTE]Correct.
Furthermore, the calculation that a girl makes 150 in an hour because guys finish quickly and leave voluntarily before time is up. These type of calculations ignore the significant down time girls have between sessions. I think this is the reason why girls dislike short 30 min sessions. The walk up and down, fetching new bedsheets before session can begin, and then afterwards getting paid, washing and doing makeup touch, and coming back to hunt for the next customer. All of these add up. Can easily take up 15+ min for every 30 min session.
I ask again. The 1000 x 15 to 20 equals 15,000 to 20,000 euro per month. If you seriously believe such numbers, this profession would be attracting a lot more girls from Western Europe and even from places like Hungary, Poland, etc. As it is, other than girls from dirt poor areas of Romania and Bulgaria, not many are finding these levels of income attractive. The average per capita income in Germany is no more than 4 K to 4.5 K per month and that is for all Germans; and 15,000 would put a worker in the very top echelons of income in Germany.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1972190]These days in Sharks, it is extremely rare for even a super stunner to earn 3000 euros a day, the chance could be once a year!
Per my recent visit of Sharks (November 12), I noticed that several well-known hot girls left club before 1 am. There were at most 12 hours for them staying in club. The pure chargeable time would be 8 hours after deducting overhead time. So the collection money would only be 800 euros without extra for each of these girl, whom were supposed to be very busy.
Here I'd like to give an example to explain the overhead time is actually larger for even a hot girl. I went to room with one such hot girl. I approached to her when she was just available after refresh. In about 10 minutes she finished smoking, we went upstairs around 8 pm. There are 6-7 couples before us. At 8:30 pm we got room. In order to compensate and please her, I extended the secession to 1.5 hours. We finished around 10 pm, she then went back to refresh. I saw her came out around 10:20 pm, and almost immediately an Asian guy came to meet her. They went upstairs around 10:30 pm and started the cycle. I happened to notice that the girl left around 12 am.
So from 7:50 pm to 12 am, the beautiful girl seemed to be with clients all the time, but she only earned 250 euros (apparently the Asian gave her one hour session) in about 4 hours quality time. She started to work around noon as she told me and got four rooms before we met. So I concluded that she earned about 650 - 900 euros in 6 sessions that day. It was Saturday and she stayed in club for about 12 hours.[/QUOTE]In conclusion your figures are more or less the same than my figures, 6 sessions 900 euros, some girls do more sessions than that, and the 2000 or 3000 euros per day is really for the top top girls and during fair time in Frankfurt, we should not forget that many foreigners are not paying 50 euros for 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1972216]Correct.
Furthermore, the calculation that a girl makes 150 in an hour because guys finish quickly and leave voluntarily before time is up. These type of calculations ignore the significant down time girls have between sessions. I think this is the reason why girls dislike short 30 min sessions. The walk up and down, fetching new bedsheets before session can begin, and then afterwards getting paid, washing and doing makeup touch, and coming back to hunt for the next customer. All of these add up. Can easily take up 15+ min for every 30 min session.
I ask again. The 1000 x 15 to 20 equals 15,000 to 20,000 euro per month. If you seriously believe such numbers, this profession would be attracting a lot more girls from Western Europe and even from places like Hungary, Poland, etc. As it is, other than girls from dirt poor areas of Romania and Bulgaria, not many are finding these levels of income attractive. The average per capita income in Germany is no more than 4 K to 4.5 K per month and that is for all Germans; and 15,000 would put a worker in the very top echelons of income in Germany.[/QUOTE]Many 30 mn guys are bang bang fucking, like Turkish, sometimes lasting only 15/20 mn. Some kind of clients are only hugging and chatting for hours, not even kissing and no fucking, some girls are specialists for this business. There are slow clients like me who like long foreplay, kissing, licking everywhere, tasting, drinking bitter juice, caressing, to get chicken skin, hard dark nipples and growing clit. For all this, with about only 15/20 mn fucking, so not much longer than bang bang guys, 1 hour is very short time to enjoy to play such foreplay before sex, when I really enjoy, I often stay 1 h 30, so 100/150 versus 50 for pretty same vagina work, but with more wet and opened vagina after foreplay and probably in softly way.
I know a few girls in Germany, even at Aca where 40/30 mn, who make about 4000/5000 a week, but since beginning of 2013, I never heard a girl in Germany saying about more than 1500 on an exceptional day and it was only on 2013 and 2014. I think girls who make 800/1000 a day in Germany now, have a good business day. It means they were about 8/10 hours in room, so at least 12/14 hours staying in the club and full busy, with time between rooms, time to wait for room like at GT or LR, I like this wait with my girl, thinking about what will happen, also social time to introduce, time for breakfast and diner, time to smoke for most or to have a drink.
Of course a top class, not always for behavior on public sex, but sophisticated look, real woman for behavior and skill, ex Hessen superstar, can make about 4000/5000 from Friday to Sunday, some days can make about 2000 , being usually busy at Globe. For one, She and same for my Isabella, just walk around the pole, no need to dance like Stefie who is very good dancer and also good GFE in room.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972155]Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
[/QUOTE]Sounds silly. How to Distort 101. Add back minimum 15 minutes down time (for a busy girl. Not likely as low for 15 min session girls) between sessions and room waits. How many girls can average 150 Euros per hour elapsed time (not fuck time)? Virtually none, even selling lots of extras. I doubt busy Evita can manage that, unless a special customer agrees to a super high rate.
Maybe Lena ex Oase could manage 150 per hour in her heyday with continuous bookings all day from opening time and no room waits and getting ass fucked and / or CIM by many customers. An extreme case.
I have to wonder if girls exaggerate their earnings when talking to some customers, so that customer maybe persuaded into a very high price for an extended booking, more than what he should really being paying to be a fair price. Suppose a customer wants to book the girl for the whole day. The price should be little different to what she normally expects to make in a day, unless he is a fucking machine and should be charged more. So girl has an incentive to exaggerate her typical earnings, rather than have us pity her by understating her earnings. LOL.
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1971975]She is badly missed at Sharks. Hope she comes back soon.[/QUOTE]She left to go to small Worms on Summer when she could go to Globe where girls had good business on last Summer, she left again now. Even she is a really friendly girl who deserves to be known, not only judged about her behavior turning around, she worth better than this, same for Ada, but Anja is really not clever to get business and even she was one of the prettiest, she was not busy even before Summer when there were not 999 girls, so she left again. She seems more used to fast sex or CIM to try to make fast 100 , or playing biting or fighting like children for longer room, than GF behavior. Ada understood faster, on first room, about GF behavior.
Wait and see for Anja, at Globe or on the moon? With her bad tattoo, not sure she gets the best advices around her and not a good point for Globe, but I will know fast, Kate returned to enjoy her so cute life at home, better than sucking dicks in public, and as soon she started, Isabella asked me when I come to kiss her everywhere, so I can manage out of jealousy now, to enjoy.
Those who really know me, would understand, please don't name her, but one of my regular is used to make 3 10/15 mn rooms with one smoking time in 1 hour. I have 1 hour rooms with her, taking all my time and no problem about hygiene with her. She is just a sex Terminator able some Saturdays to have more than 20 rooms.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1972241]In conclusion your figures are more or less the same than my figures, 6 sessions 900 euros, some girls do more sessions than that, and the 2000 or 3000 euros per day is really for the top top girls and during fair time in Frankfurt, we should not forget that many foreigners are not paying 50 euros for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]As you are a World regular, if you knew Madi, I think most of those who knew her and even I criticized her changing behavior becoming too talkative, but I don t think we can find many classy beauties and GF behavior like her in whole Germany and I can also add at Globe, Wellcum and Andiamo. At, YY and Sixsens. She would be a top girl everywhere, even among Russian escorts in Paris. I don t believe about 200 girls at Sharks with only 40 rooms, but I can mistake, I don't get the truth, but which girls at Sharks at the moment can compete with her for beauty and GFE level? For my tastes, Megan for beauty, but I don t know any one for sensual level, maybe Agnes out of smoking.
As I met Madi a few times during 1 year, on January 2015 when Kitzbühel and Wengen, I drove to World twice after job on Wednesday evening, arriving about 10/10. 30 pm, she had only 2 rooms with me on these 2 nights, so she got 200 but had to pay entry, 90 at this time on week days. Usually, nearly every week end, I came to her on Saturday, we had 2 or 3 rooms, some Saturdays she had no other room, sometimes only 1 or 2 other rooms, most of time for fast 30 mn, when she did really worth to take time to enjoy her. That was a top class girl business at World, 110 € for her for 10 hours working or about 300/400 on Saturday after paying entry, maybe 4000/5000 per month, I was often sad for her, I advised guys to go to meet her, fortunately she lived close and didn't need taxi, but when she was asked to work 5 days a week by management, better for her to retire at 31 yo.
If girls could really make more than 1000 a day, we would have many pretty Russian girls in FKK.
Business level is on Romanian level of life, that's why 90% girls are Romanian and we are lucky to meet them.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972155]Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, [b]a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.[/b]
[/QUOTE]I was commenting on the clever formula proposed by Siri: Take the total money transactions for the entire day then divide by number of girls in attendance for that day.
40 rooms * 17 hours * 100 EUR = 68000 EUR per day.
If above amount were evenly distributed among 200 girls in attendance, then the average gross earnings per girl would be 340 EUR.
My point was that a room does not always result in 100 EUR worth of transactions per hour. From 11 AM-2 PM, maybe only 2-4 couples will use that room. But from 8 PM-11 PM, you might see 8-10 couples utilize that room. Cleaning the room only takes two minutes, and it does not happen after each couple leaves. Most customers don't use the max slotted time that they paid for.