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[QUOTE=GenuineLotus;2509686]A great synopsis Dreamer; how people see China and the world. You forgot to mention, last Tuesday China effortlessly landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon, collected 2 kg of Luna dust and back home, the second since 1970 / USA. It's the only thing the US democrats and republicans can agree on, is what to do with China? I grew up on a farm and when I was a kid, my parents said 30 years ago that Asia would be the new world order, the west can't compete. When you are a kid that doesn't mean much until you leave home and make your own judgements. I doubt very much whether the Chinese want to exchange our coal for their women, their strategic interests are far more focused leaving our politicians scratching their heads. With the recent exchange of words by our PM calling the Chinese belligerent and earlier, recalcitrant makes me cringe, two adjectives that weren't on my vocab. I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She's probably the only cabinet minister that understands the PRC people. She said in the wake of the recent stoush and fall out "we need to move with strategic calmness and without emotion".

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Lotus.[/QUOTE]It's an easy thing to say, another thing to do. Penny Wong would make kowtowing to the PRC an art form.

Let's face it, if any of us had a few hundred million in the bank, we could have any woman you wanted. Those Chinese birds live and die by the almighty dollar.

[QUOTE=GenuineLotus;2509686]A great synopsis Dreamer; how people see China and the world. You forgot to mention, last Tuesday China effortlessly landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon, collected 2 kg of Luna dust and back home, the second since 1970 / USA. It's the only thing the US democrats and republicans can agree on, is what to do with China? I grew up on a farm and when I was a kid, my parents said 30 years ago that Asia would be the new world order, the west can't compete. When you are a kid that doesn't mean much until you leave home and make your own judgements. I doubt very much whether the Chinese want to exchange our coal for their women, their strategic interests are far more focused leaving our politicians scratching their heads. With the recent exchange of words by our PM calling the Chinese belligerent and earlier, recalcitrant makes me cringe, two adjectives that weren't on my vocab. I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She's probably the only cabinet minister that understands the PRC people. She said in the wake of the recent stoush and fall out "we need to move with strategic calmness and without emotion".

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.[/QUOTE]Penny Wong is a militant CFMEU aligned unionist. We all know from last time what happens when the left get hold of the keys to the Treasury. She's also a lezzo.

Anyhow, there are better political forums than ISG to discuss the virtues of socialism.

[QUOTE=GenuineLotus;2509686]A great synopsis Dreamer; how people see China and the world. You forgot to mention, last Tuesday China effortlessly landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon, collected 2 kg of Luna dust and back home, the second since 1970 / USA. It's the only thing the US democrats and republicans can agree on, is what to do with China? I grew up on a farm and when I was a kid, my parents said 30 years ago that Asia would be the new world order, the west can't compete. When you are a kid that doesn't mean much until you leave home and make your own judgements. I doubt very much whether the Chinese want to exchange our coal for their women, their strategic interests are far more focused leaving our politicians scratching their heads. With the recent exchange of words by our PM calling the Chinese belligerent and earlier, recalcitrant makes me cringe, two adjectives that weren't on my vocab. I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She's probably the only cabinet minister that understands the PRC people. She said in the wake of the recent stoush and fall out "we need to move with strategic calmness and without emotion".[/QUOTE]It does not matter what the Chinese people think or want. What matters is the Chinese Communist Party's plan. Making Australia their first major colony in the developed world. Australia's natural resources and farmland will be key in expanding the rise of a global Communist Empire ruled by Chinese masters. Once the New World Order is established, Aussie birds will travel to Beijing to perform BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS. They will have to learn the equivalent of "Show us your tits love" in Mandarin. Oz is the first domino to fall, and it all began at Keswick Island.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2509780]Penny Wong is a militant CFMEU aligned unionist. We all know from last time what happens when the left get hold of the keys to the Treasury. She's also a lezzo.
Anyhow, there are better political forums than ISG to discuss the virtues of socialism.[/QUOTE]Engine; there will always be public scepticism when choosing PM's we've had three birds; a Peacock, a Hawke and now a Galah. USA is no different, a peanut farmer, a Hollywood actor, a Terminator an adulterist and a billionaire Jocker. This forum is an ideal platform to play the sex and politics game, ask Gladys Berejiklian and our own home-grown dysfunctional paedophiles. The whole world knows Penny Wong's ALP credentials and being out and proud big deal! Life's too short to be wound up and shackled with socialist, communist, Leftist, racist, homophobic barriers. Thanks for your post and Merry Christmas.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[QUOTE=OnlyAGame;2499366]Has anyone encountered a ladyboy (or 2) in any of the many dozen Thai massage shops around Melbourne? Not after brothels, must be a massage shop.
I have a theory that I want to put to the test....[/QUOTE]Sure Mate! I believe you but thousands wouldn't. A week ago, I was at the sisters, the grumpy landlady had a "new-girl" young and beautiful she said. Usual 1 HR with a quick chat in a pleasant room. Under a dim light tallish, slim and attractive. 30 on the back 30 on the front, an excellent face down massage working the shoulders the back the arse the legs and then the buttocks again. Half time flip and cover my privates with my modesty cloth. Girls get very disappointed with this thinking the door is closed. The table lamp shone on her re-sculptured face, good sized boobs and my wrist between her legs and hand clasping an arse cheek. Something didn't feel quite right, the rear-carriage so different, it's hard to explain. She kept giving a good leg massage and offered 50 HJ and said no big deal, you get this in every shop and declined. If the climate is right a BB pussy-slide. My wrist was still lodged in her crotch, my forfinger felt what was a ball sack or ding-a-ling strapped behind. OK, I was alerted but not alarmed and took my hand out and held hers, they were large and not elegant or consistent with a women and again offered a 50 HJ at 10 to full time. I remained pleasant and respectful towards her got dressed and saw her narrow hips and wide shoulders.

The following week I was upstairs at Cloud on Toorak having a look and she spotted me under a different name.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[QUOTE=GenuineLotus;2509938]Sure Mate! I believe you but thousands wouldn't. A week ago, I was at the sisters, the grumpy landlady had a "new-girl" young and beautiful she said. Usual 1 HR with a quick chat in a pleasant room. Under a dim light tallish, slim and attractive. 30 on the back 30 on the front, an excellent face down massage working the shoulders the back the arse the legs and then the buttocks again. Half time flip and cover my privates with my modesty cloth. Girls get very disappointed with this thinking the door is closed. The table lamp shone on her re-sculptured face, good sized boobs and my wrist between her legs and hand clasping an arse cheek. Something didn't feel quite right, the rear-carriage so different, it's hard to explain. She kept giving a good leg massage and offered 50 HJ and said no big deal, you get this in every shop and declined. If the climate is right a BB pussy-slide. My wrist was still lodged in her crotch, my forfinger felt what was a ball sack or ding-a-ling strapped behind. OK, I was alerted but not alarmed and took my hand out and held hers, they were large and not elegant or consistent with a women and again offered a 50 HJ at 10 to full time. I remained pleasant and respectful towards her got dressed and saw her narrow hips and wide shoulders.

The following week I was upstairs at Cloud on Toorak having a look and she spotted me under a different name.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.[/QUOTE]Was it the strong wrists, muscled shoulders, and raspy voice that made you decline the $50 pull on your pecker? Seems like there was much squeezing of her arse and feverish fondling before backing out from the prostate massage. You probably could have gotten it gratis. It does not make much sense leaving a dodgy rub-and-tug with blue balls and tipping generously.

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Sorry to disappoint all the Sinophiles on this forum. This article in The Australian today should dispel any doubt that the CCP is not involved in the rub and tug trade. Note that the shops all demanded cash payments. Code for tax evasion and money laundering. People in Melbourne are so naive.

" A Daniel Andrews staffer with Chinese Communist Party links has served as the secretary, director and chief marketing director of a mysterious Chinese international investment fund which last year established a US-listed joint venture worth almost AUD $70 m, and owns a massage chain with outlets at almost every major Melbourne shopping centre.

Nancy Yang, who works part time in the Victorian Premier's Mulgrave electorate office in Melbourne's southeast was listed in 2015 as holding a 1. 8 per cent stake in Arem Pacific Corporation, which floated on the US stock exchange in 2019 as part of a $US50 m joint venture.

Ms Yang's involvement in an international investment fund worth tens of millions of dollars is unusual given her relatively junior part time role in Mr Andrews' office and that of neighbouring Labor MP Meng Heang Tak. The electorate officer role attracts a full time equivalent salary of approximately $80,000.

Arem Pacific Corporation's website lists headquarters in Melbourne's Collins Street, the US city of Scottsdale, Arizona where it was founded in 1990, and Guangzhou, China, where its NASDAQ-listed joint venture launch was held in September 2019.

The website also details the company's ownership of the Zen Oriental Holistic Health and Green Palm Massage chains, which have outlets at major shopping centres across Melbourne including Chadstone, Melbourne Central, Victoria Gardens, Eastland, Northland and Highpoint, many of which demand cash only payment for services.

A document filed with the US stock exchange in 2015 lists Ms Yang among five company directors. "Ms Nancy Yang has been our Secretary and a Director since January 2014," the document reads. "From 2010 to the present, she has been Chief Marketing Director of the Company.

"From 2008 to 2009, she was a Visa and Evidencing Officer for the Chinese Embassy in Melbourne, Australia. She graduated with double Masters in Commerce and Business / Information Technology from RMIT University, Australia. Ms Yang brings to our Board of Directors several years of management, administration and quality control."

The Australian has previously revealed Ms Yang's posting in March of articles on social media suggesting coronavirus was created by the US and taken to China by the US Army, as well as her role as founder and chair for a decade of the CCP United Front-linked Melbourne Chinese Youth United Association, during which she helped to mobilise thousands of Chinese who travelled to Canberra to participate in an at-times violent counter-protest against human rights campaigners at the Olympic Torch relay in 2008.

The other five directors of the company include Chinese-born, Melbourne-based medical doctor Thomas Tang, who is CEO and president, chairman Rocco Scarpari, who is described as owning a small vineyard and orchard near Shepparton in northern Victoria, chief financial officer Allan Qiu who the document says was also CFO of "affiliated Australian company" Arem Marketing Corp, and Shandong University-educated Xin Jin, who as company vice president is described as being responsible for managing the company's "physiotherapy wellness business".

"We take pride in building long-term relationships with our clients," the company's website boasts. "Our stock is currently held by more than 500 shareholders. Besides its current physiotherapy & health chained outlets in Australia, Arem keeps expanding its business into profitable areas. " Neither Ms Yang nor Arem Pacific Corporation responded to requests for comment."

The CCP agent Fang Fang was busy compromising Midwestern city mayors and other politicians in the USA with her expert use of BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS. Then once she drained marshmallow sacks of her targets, she escaped back to her handlers in Beijing. Those who think that the CCP is not using their hardest working girls to infiltrate and subvert horny men in RWML are sorely mistaken.

[URL]https://www.the-sun.com/news/1932820/chinese-spy-fang-infiltrate-politics/[/URL]

Ha ha, this Fang Fang is actually not bad looking, I would be happy to pay $200 for an hour with her.

Of course China uses beauty to for all sorts of purposes including espionage, financial gains, economic and technology intels, etc. But which country doesn't? The master of all of this is probably the US, western countries and Russia. The US probably has the most number of spies in the world and I wouldn't be surprised if they still operate within Australian government too. I sometimes feel that it's a bit unfair for the world to criticise China for doing things that the western countries have been doing for years and are still doing it now. The thing I find unfortunate for China is with espionage (or similar operations), a caucasian is much more easier to infiltrate say the Australian Government as compared to an Asian. A caucasion can just "blend" in, whereas an Asian will stand out, hence he / she is more likely to attract attention. I feel sorry for Asian politicians in Australia (and in western countries) at the moment, they often and can easily get "framed" by the media as a spy, working for the CCP.

The reverse is true also as it must be hard for the American to send a caucasian into China and infiltrate. Imagine in a CCP meeting, there is this white guy sitting there smiling and listening! Actually, I don't think three's any caucasian in the CCP at all. It must also be hard for the American to "recruit" local Chinese to be their spies, as there is that cultural mistrust. In China, there is also no transparent legal protection so if you get caught, you get shot and that's it so the locals wouldn't risk it.

Given the above, from what I've read and observed, the US and western countries, Australia included, have no idea how to deal with the rise of China. There is just no intels and the cultural is just some much different that it will take years to understand.

Not withstanding the above, as per my previous post, I still don't believe that the girls working at the are&T, MP are working for the CCP. They are just people looking for opportunities to make money (they may need to pay the gang for organising their trip here). Therefore just enjoy guys, I have nothing to hide anyway.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2510535]The CCP agent Fang Fang was busy compromising Midwestern city mayors and other politicians in the USA with her expert use of BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS. Then once she drained marshmallow sacks of her targets, she escaped back to her handlers in Beijing. Those who think that the CCP is not using their hardest working girls to infiltrate and subvert horny men in RWML are sorely mistaken.

[URL]https://www.the-sun.com/news/1932820/chinese-spy-fang-infiltrate-politics/[/URL][/QUOTE]

It's definitely the excitement of finding the unexpected that makes Melbourne mongers so addicted to Chinese rub and tugs. Yes, you never quite know what a granny fresh from the farm will provide. Having guaranteed sex with slim, blonde twenty somethings like Brandi, Kylie and Madison at the California Club for $200 is just too predictable and vanilla for them. Hahahaha.

I had a few hours free this arvo in the city before a meeting and I honestly had nothing better to do. So I went to the Paramount an old stomping ground I hadn't been to in 5 ish years. There's a few parlours set up. Pings Full body, Sabrina's and one other. I believe they're all run by the same people, but I could be wrong. Pings we're offering $50 for 60 minutes. Which is outrageous. Also the other two didn't have any people out of the front. So I would be going in blind. So I went with the old reliable Pings. I swear there were some of the same ladies there as there were in 2010 when I first started going. I was lucky to get the youngest girl who would still be in her late 30's. Oddest massage I've ever got. It was a borderline back rub and scratch at times. Which was sorta relaxing. The flip came and she did some rubbing of my legs for 2 minutes then grabbed the old boy. She said 40. I didn't have 40 cash on me. I forgot to go to the ATM beforehand, rookie error. I had 15 bucks, so wasn't happy but she gave me a HJ, wasn't the best. Wouldn't allow touching which is understandable. And then went back to back scratching.

Any one else been to the other 2? Or have any other recent experience at Pings?

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2510174]Was it the strong wrists, muscled shoulders, and raspy voice that made you decline the $50 pull on your pecker? Seems like there was much squeezing of her arse and feverish fondling before backing out from the prostate massage. You probably could have gotten it gratis. It does not make much sense leaving a dodgy rub-and-tug with blue balls and tipping generously.[/QUOTE]Choch, thanks foer your appraisal. I'm disappointed tho, that you narrowly define me as your typical feverish quivering dithering fondling monger that leaves with blue balls expecting something for nothing, that's not how it was or my style. Ladyboys don't carry the reputation for freebies. With no feeling or emotion why lay there like a starfish and empty, there's no value in that at all.

The following week the landlady had a young Japanese girl, Mehu. She dressed like a student with Micky Mouse tags and wasn't hot looking but plain with a round moon-like face almost nerdish just my type! 70 HR 30 on the back 30 on the front. An excellent face down massage working the shoulders the back the arse the legs. 30 m flip and cover my privates with my modesty cloth. I managed to catch her eye and cute face; within a minute I pulled her over with a sneaky kiss on the cheek and whispered in her hear and said "what else are we doing" Her cute Japanese accent was a turn on and she was surprised I had been to Japan x 2 and talked Japanessie stuff and felt well connected but needed to talk shop! 100 all off and said no way 50 is standard here. We agreed 50+20 for a BB pussy slide, she was 21 and cute. I came over on the PTV and thought to myself in 40-50 punts with youngish Chinese girls in the last year none have had decent boobs. I left her top on but un-hooked her 3-hook bra and felt the most beautiful young breasts from behind. I didn't over react but it was a turn-on to see the nicest young and budding breasts and beautiful colour too. They resembled the shape and size of those Italian Renaissance marble goddesses. Her lack of experience with HJ was not good, anyway, I was wet and hard and on she went, not on the base like usual but massaging the knob with the clit, in less than a couple of minutes I had come. The following week I rang the landlady and asked for her and told she's on holiday. I now know the universal Chinese meaning of she won't be back and young and budding. She gets 100 at her other western district shop which I can't give you the name of but was told, it would be nice to see you, but you must pay their prices. Ummm!

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

Went to this place for a massage. Nice, neat shop which looked like a very professional set up. Three young, slim Thai girls were on duty. Couldn't see their faces as they were all wearing masks. I assumed this place was completely legit as it's in posh Kew, shop was very clean and all girls were wearing professional looking uniforms. There was absolutely nothing to indicate anything other than a therapeutic massage was on offer.

Cost for 1 hour was $70 for cash or $75 for card. I would never pay by card at these places so the cash offer was fine.

I stripped off, covered myself with the towel and in walked Pappy. Very good massage, so I was convinced it was legit by now. At the 40 minute mark came the flip and she did not cover my equipment like at other legit places.

To my surprise she whispered whether I wanted something extra. I asked for the menu. The predictable standard bullshit was offered. $150 for take off, body slide + HJ. $100 for take off + HJ and $50 for just HJ. Hahahahaha. I politely declined. Had I taken the first item, that would have been $220 for a glorified wank. Hahahahaha. As previously written, you can get FS, CBJ, DATY, DFK and AR with a beautiful white girl at California Club for $200. I'd be crazy to pay this sort money to a Thai student for not having sex.

I said I only had $30 on me and she could take that for a HJ if she wanted to. She accepted the deal. Lousy HJ. She just started pulling my cock with no technique. To really punish me for the low tip, she stood just far away enough so I could not feel her ass. Hahaha.

We had 10 minutes to go after the HJ so she stretched me a bit and massaged my arms and chest.

Nothing really special to warrant another visit. Avoid.

Engine Driver is it wise to visit an rnt when you question others on visiting them? Your vehemently against these places and your review is evidence enough of how they have changed the landscape of the industry for good. We recently lost 2 brothels in South Melbourne, 466 city Road and 7 park st. We need 50 more brothels and 50 less rnt shops in my opinion.