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How to choose a girl
How do you pick a girl? Just sheer hotness? Well I think anybody who has visited FKKs knows how important it is to sit and chat with her for a while to make sure there is a bit of chemistry.
But lately it's not enough. Too many scammers. Too many girls who are great at making the sale, then drop a personality bomb once you get into the room. Switchgirls. At Artemis in particular it's become a more and more refined technique.
There is one way you can know the truth about a girl. It's amazingly simple and costs zero Euros. Just look at the face of the last guy who went with her.
This game is *all* about observation. For a long time I've watched the guys coming down the stairs. Is a guy chatting merrily with the girl? Is she hugging him, or trailing coldly behind him? How many guys look as if they're coming from a funeral, and how many look as if they're coming from a blowjob? About 3:1 is the ratio I say. A real eye opener if you take the trouble. It seems the average uninformed tourist doesn't stand much of a chance. But if you are reading this, and you know how to find the right 20-30% of girls, it's not so bad. I've had a great deal of success with this strategy.
To observe the right things, it's necessary to filter out irrelevant information. Things I don't bother to observe: what a cheerful personality the girl has at the bar. How nice she is flirting with the guy as they go up the stairs. That's all just noise. Everybody's a darling *before* the sale. What matters is what they look like coming *down* the stairs.
Once you start seeing that, once you get beyond just looking at a girl's boobs and flashy smile, it is amazing how the matrix of possibilities shifts. Many attractive glittering girls fade into the background. You see how you narrowly avoided a terrible fate, and wonder how you could have been so stupid. Meanwhile, there are other girls that you had somehow quite overlooked, and now you look closer, and you see a girl might not have a ton of makeup on, but still be very doable indeed with a slim tight 20-year old body and a cute face. And you realize all the other guys are somehow overlooking that girl just the way you were, and that is the opening for you to make your move.
If you talk to the typical Berliner, the impression is that Artemis is purely and simply a tourist trap, and anybody wanting good sex should stick to his girlfriend or travel out to one of the FKKs out in the provinces. That view, in my opinion, is too simplistic. There *are* some excellent ladies at Artemis. It just seems like getting to them sometimes is like finding a needle in a haystack. But a long time ago, I stopped blacklisting girls in my head (angry emotion), and started whitelisting them (emotion of discovery). This is the attitude that wins.
One thing you will notice after a while, if you follow the observational strategy I have outlined, is that most of the girls who are giving guys a good time are *new* girls. A little background to make it clear? In Artemis, there is a hard core of girls, predominantly German, who have been embedded there for years, who all talk with each other, and who fundamentally don't like men. They have settled on a set of specific practices designed to give customers horrible antiseptic sexual experiences: I call it antisex. The clique doesn't want real competition, so when a new girl arrives, they will try and make her conform to their rules. Often this is a girl who just wants to do a good job, have a nice time with a guy, and go home with a bit of extra money to fund her studies or whatever. I have had some great sessions with a lot of these new girls, then seen how confused they are after the gang gets to them. Should she give the customer a good time or a bad time? Often what happens is that the girl will try to follow the gang rules, realize how she is making her own job one long sequence of unhappy experiences, give up under the stress, and go back to a friendlier FKK. So the key is to find those girls before they are driven away, and maybe give them a bit of hope.
And yes, I know this post will be leapt on savagely by the usual agents on this thread, but I really don't care. Why not? Because this post isn't actually intended for those two or three people at all. It's intended for the tens of thousands of innocent grazing mongers, many of them about to visit Berlin, wondering how to have a good time at the only real FKK in town without getting ripped off, and trying to see past the blur of misinformation. That is who this post is aimed at.
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Limey, excellent post. Sounds like you know what is up as your post don't sound biased to the particular club. Lots of technical info layed out that if followed, will reap benefits statistically. There will still be that small percentage that will be outliers to what you have said. Not every man will act all jolly or conversing with girls as they are coming out, and this will not mean absolute bad session. What is most certain is if a girl storms much ahead or the man, likely something went wrong there. Also, full 30 min service would most likely mean the girl is not cheating time or providing the man the honest time by staying til the end.
Atremis is not for everybody, it is indeed draws the professional crowd of girls although I have ran into the less experienced new girls there. It's not my first choice in terms of service as I know many other places that I can run into girls that easily provide the the level of service I seek with high in optiks. I have noticed, that those that attend Artemis look into Palace in Frakfurt which is the worst club in terms of services.
I have a pretty high success rate not because of following what you have outlined, but choice in the clubs I attend and the girls I choose. Most times I have pretty good inkling who to go for. I don't look for girls in the reports, and I still have high service success rate. It partially has to do with chemistry, but if you attend more professional clubs like Art, chances of such chemistry is slim to none, and those pro analyzing skills are much needed.
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I can't stand sharks, ice cubes, and robots
[QUOTE=TheLimey;1633596]And yes, I know this post will be leapt on savagely by the usual agents on this thread, but I really don't care. Why not? Because this post isn't actually intended for those two or three people at all. It's intended for the tens of thousands of innocent grazing mongers, many of them about to visit Berlin, wondering how to have a good time at the only real FKK in town without getting ripped off, and trying to see past the blur of misinformation. That is who this post is aimed at.[/QUOTE]No, your post is absolutely true. There is nothing worse than a cynical, sharky rip-off session to make you feel like crap instead of having fun.
Another clue is whether the girl is willing to kiss you on the lips on the couch or at the bar. For whatever reason the sharks tend not to do this. I guess they think they should be paid extra for that.
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[QUOTE=TheLimey;1633596]How do you pick a girl? [/QUOTE]Ciao The Limey, nice reading this. The down-the-stairs, post session, face expression and gestures are very revealing and also fun to watch actually. As everything, has to be taken as just one extra indicator.
I choose a girl because I find her sexy, period. After that, I try to understand if it could be a good choice or not. I never interview girls before a session, at the max I ask if they have a laundry list of no nos. I know it's something most of the veterans will not agree with, but it's just the way I do it. And this makes your question even more interesting.
I agree with the whitelisting approach instead of the blacklisting one, I generally look for the good signals to choose a girl and not for the bad ones to drop her. But what are the good signals and what are the bad ones? And we are obviously talking just of the girls you don't already know.
A smile is a good signal. Accepting a few refusals and still being friendly is one. Not insisting is a good one. Not even proposing yourself is one. Big boobs, small boobs, piercings, no pierccings, blonde, red, tall, slim, that's all taste things and so very personal.
Other things that can influence my choice are: How a girl walks around. Is she in production mode? Is she relaxed? Who is she hanging around with? If she is in a group, what kind of expression she / they have when a customer refuses one of them or when one in the group gets a customer?
An obviously important thing to note is timing. Is the girl doing long sessions, 60 min or more? Does it look like she is staying in the room 12 minutes every time?
Probably much more than this but I'll think about it and try to keep track of this next time I'm up. Very very soon. LOL.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=TheLimey;1633596]How to choose a girl?[/QUOTE]Limey, an interesting read. I agree with most of what you say, but am not so sure about the observation regarding the walk downstairs. This, I think, can depend on the man. It is probably my least favourite part of the FKK experience. I am very happy speaking with the girls, rejecting or accepting, walking round the club, appearing naked, paying the girl, etc. , but I don't like the "walk of shame", even with my favourite girls. This is usually more to do with my personality than my experience with the girl. There is no logic to this feeling, but it is how I feel.
What works for me is to go with the flow. I expect bad sessions, and I accept that it is sometimes my fault, sometimes the girl, poor chemistry, bad day, the environment, whatever. It can't always be the girl, or she would not make sufficient money to stay there. I can also escape at 60 euros. I find it hard not to feel like I have got 60 euros of value. I enjoy the investigation. If I don't enjoy the meal, I don't dine again at the same restaurant. I don't often regret the experience. There is only one session at Artemis where I have felt 'robbed' and that was a case of egregious upselling. A girl constantly requesting that I shove my cock in her ass so that she can earn another 100 euros doesn't do it for me. In that way I am old-fashioned. The girl in question still approaches me every time she sees me, and we laugh about the fact that it was the worst session of my punting life. She has taken it as a challenge to have me try again. One day I will, just to see what happens.
I agree with the new girl thing. I am not at the club regularly enough to know, but I do find myself avoiding the girls who are part of the large groups. I assume the (in) famous "GSG".
To me, FKK is outstanding value for money. To escape real life for a day is a pleasure (and there is nothing wrong with my real life). In part, it is because I can visit as often as I like. I am only in the UK, and my time is very flexible. Those travelling long distances, and using vacation time, are probably under more pressure to enjoy every session. It is a much bigger financial and emotional investment. My other options are a 200 gbp / HR london escort. Historically, more often a miss than a hit. I have not visited with an escort since my first visit to Artemis.
I have strayed from the topic. In the main, I think that I am a good judge of character. Body language is an important indicator, of which observing the walk down the stairs is certainly a part of the equation. However, I focus more on the the body language of the girl, than that of the man. Does she respect the man? The more times that I visit, the fewer bad sessions that I have; no doubt partly due to repeat sessions with tested girls, but also down to experience, and observing of how the girl behaves with her customers, and with other girls. I also take an interest in how the girls are with the support staff, including the masseurs. If they are friendly and respectful with them, it is safe to assume that they will be friendly with me also.
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Another trick.
[QUOTE=TheLimey;1633596]How do you pick a girl? [/QUOTE]A valid observation, but I am not usually standing near the staircase or the shower / money box area. Here is another trick for the couch potatoes.
I usually tell the girls that approach me that I am waiting for another ahead of her, even if that is not true. If she just gets up and walks away in a huff, then forget about her and move on to the next. I bet you the same girl will return 30 minutes later to ask you again. The girls need to make money, I understand that, but we are the meal ticket. If they perform well they will earn it with a long session in the room, not constantly working on the floor. If a girl responds well, then say "I have you on my list, but later". It drives them nuts, but when you go and seek her out on the couch later, you are generally in for a good session. Give it a try.
FiddyCent.
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Crowd-Sourcing
Limey. Won't jump on you savagely. RB will do this in a nurturing, understanding, metro way.
If your strategy works for you, that's great. And for sure lots of different guys smiling with the same girl is a data point. But nothing more. Why?
I have seen happy satisfied guys come down with girls with whom I have had dreadful, chew my arm off sessions. In fact, I have been with some amigos who had the same awful experience with the same girl (over some years), and as we watched this together, we all said "how is it possible?" It is possible because chemistry is just highly subjective. Some of these girls are the very hard core, icy business cyborgs we all know and fear-you can still see guys smiling walking down with them. Maybe it is genuine pleasure, maybe a way to deal with cognitive dissonance, or show a trophy to the troops, who knows.
Then there is the not so small matter of really, how representative is some sample of mongers of oneself? There are a handful of guys I know there whose opinions I would trust. The rest. Ha ha. And again, I have gotten suggestions to try this and that but the vibe just wasn't there so either I didn't, or on very rare occasion, did and regretted it.
Then there is the "scientifical" factor. To do this right would mean at least 1+ hours of observing, waiting for a particular girl to come down with at least 2 different men after 2 30 min sessions. And really 2 guys would not be enough. You would want guys who looked and somehow act like you, or a mix of widely different types, Ok, you don't have to hang around, you could come back guessing when the decent will occur. But then they extend the session, or you forget to come back. You see how the logistics of all rapidly becomes a time consuming project. And still no guarantee at all how she will be with [i]you[/i].
So, at the end of the day, there is really no short-cut from just talking, and feeling the vibe as Frozty and Kimino (and RB) have said. And the problems with the "observe a rejection" tip - or using head games to uncover head games, was discussed earlier this fall. If I really was unsure, I would ask another girl whom I trust, or one of the masseurs downstairs who know a lot. But only as another data point. Ultimately, it is your gut.
Finally, this notion that the better girls are "newish". If there is any consensus in Ye Olde Bahnhoff, it is that some of the long-term regulars like Fatima, Jenna, Nina, Nicoletta, Amalia, Brigitta, Belle, Ella, Pamela, Zoey, and Natasha to name but a few, are viewed consistently among the best, by a wide range of mongers, even if I would not agree on all. There are for sure some long-termers there who are old great white sharks, and how they have survived is also a mystery, even though obviously, enough new mongers fall for them. Some sort of serial abuse thing. Still, difficult really to understand. Markets are funny things. But the point is, very difficult to generalize about all these things.
So your opinions are yours, they are valid and work for you, but again it is all just subjective. Everyone has to find their own way. But really, at any given moment, there are 5+ sure bets in the house and if one is just a little careful, talks, takes a little time, finding a great (enough) experience there is really not such a big deal.
Happy hunting to you all.
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How do you pick up? A system
How do you pick a girl?
I used a system that worked for me, and worked for others that I recommended it to, especially if you are a newbie. The girls often target an obvious newbie, especially if it is clear that you are not German, like me.
I go through the reports here, and therefore have an idea of the sharks. In my visits to Oase and Artemis it is the sharks that approach you first if you are new. I can see how someone who is an FKK for the first time and completely awed by the experience could easily fall for half an hour of lousy sex. I don t believe that you should be ready to risk 60 euros in a hit or miss experiment, that money could buy you a really good whiskey!
So if you know, by going through the reports (I made an excel sheet and spend a couple of days learning it. Don t take the list with you! You can filter out the obvious sharks. And you can know who are great.
However, this is just a preliminary exercise, after that you see if you click with the girl, have some conversation, flirting etc. The forum is full of tips on how to do this.
The advantage of this system is that it will help you filter out the obvious sharks, the ones who hate the job and are just in it for the money. They are always looking for new victims.
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Observations and interactions
I really enjoyed Limey's report and his perspective. When I started to get to know Artemis a little better it was exactly what a good friend told me who knew the club much better back then. And I still have this somehow stored in my head. I would even extend it a little saying that observing the overall body language of both the guest and the girl can be relevant in that particular situation. For instance, when she walks in front of him she might be grateful its over and she literally is getting away from him as fast as she can. Or the guy on the other hand may be running away, away from what might have been the most boring or lame experience ever.
But I would also say it may be a hint but it could also be much different. Imagine we are talking about a place with hundreds of men, mostly strangers from all over the world, many languages, mentalities, personalities, ages and such. And then you think 'wow that man doesn't look enthusiastic at all'. Maybe that's just his usual face. Maybe he is too sleepy and tired which is not rare in such a place where (as many of you are!) there are lots of tourists or business people or who ever travelling a lot, maybe they had many hours of travel or didn't even get any sleep since they arrived. In other cases, the girl might run because she runs most of the time. Its just a few examples and I am not making them up, I could even point to specific observations and experiences I have in mind. But that would go too far in this thread.
Still I believe Limey's observations are quite useful, especially for first timers or men who be at Artemis on rare occassions only. I would just advise against generalising too much since all the things we are observing are just parts of the bigger puzzle. Concerning that bigger picture I very much agree to what Kimino said about other relevant factors for choosing the right girl.
For a first timer in the FKK scene (someone who knows other FKK clubs I would not consider a first timer) I mean we all know how overwhelming such a place with so many naked women can be at first sight, I would suggest stressing the 'rules' or points of advice we already gave a few times. If we didn't include Limey's point I would strongly suggest to do that.
Talking about the 'German Sofa Group' I know my position is not a mainstream position because I have a different approach than even some of my friends have and I am a regular so for frequent guests some things are naturally playing out a little different than they do for others. First we should remind everyone that this is a group of mostly 'Hamburg' women even though some are coming from other cities and are friends or part of the group. Nearly all of the girls from Berlin, Cologne or other cities are NOT part of that group.
Having said that, even the 'Hamburg' girls and their friends who are sitting together, some of them I had great experiences with and others also did. There are two or three girls from that group I stay away from and I would say they fit Limey's description. But with some of the others there is nothing I could be critical about. I could easily name names but anyone who reads the reports will find names of girls who are mentioned mostly in a positive way who do belong that group.
To a first timer I would always say: 'Try to remember the few points we gave as an introduction and start with the girls who are recommended by most of the punters'. This is for those who want to play it safe.
If you have a little more experience you will have your own observations and you will find out what is the best approach for you. For the GSG girls you could even try the more difficult ones if you know how to handle them. In fact it can feel quite rewarding if you somehow manage to connect to a woman everyone else told you to stay away from.
Some of our posts are highlighting a subject that might be interesting too. Besides trying to categorize or describe the women which surely is an important thing to do it might be beneficial to focus on the actual interaction and the way WE deal with them. Honestly I see a lot of punters both at Artemis and also at gangbangs and other events behaving like 'patients' waiting for a nurse or a little bit even like victims. This may sound exaggerating but I believe focussing on our own behaviour towards the girls can be quite rewarding. Because if we just focus on what they usually do we are handing them all the power and we are making ourselves so small that our experiences and results we be nothing more than a little fuck factory routine. I don't know if this maybe something for the lounge area in this forum.
Cheers.
Diplomat.
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They are all in it for the money.
[quote=mrstyles;1633773]how do you pick a girl?
i used a system that worked for me, and worked for others that i recommended it to, especially if you are a newbie. the girls often target an obvious newbie, especially if it is clear that you are not german, like me.
i go through the reports here, and therefore have an idea of the sharks. in my visits to oase and artemis it is the sharks that approach you first if you are new. i can see how someone who is an fkk for the first time and completely awed by the experience could easily fall for half an hour of lousy sex. i don t believe that you should be ready to risk 60 euros in a hit or miss experiment, that money could buy you a really good whiskey!
so if you know, by going through the reports (i made an excel sheet and spend a couple of days learning it. don t take the list with you! you can filter out the obvious sharks. and you can know who are great.
however, this is just a preliminary exercise, after that you see if you click with the girl, have some conversation, flirting etc. the forum is full of tips on how to do this.
the advantage of this system is that it will help you filter out the obvious sharks, the ones who hate the job and are just in it for the money. they are always looking for new victims.[/quote]although i agree with you mr. styles, but who really has time for a spread sheet? you need to meet the girl and analyse her quickly. the girls that come up and give you the "hi! "how are you?" "where you from?" speech to convince you to take her to the room happens very fast. you must be be prepared to say no, even though you like her. i never let the excuse that i am not german determine how the girl treats me. you have to take charge. you can change the girl's behaviour. neither you or i will ever be confused as being german. we need a different set of tactics. i tell them that i have been to all the clubs in frankfurt and am a frequent visitor to artemis. my best excuse for not taking a girl is to say "i am waiting for nina. maybe i will see you later, ok?
fiddycent.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1633771]
Then there is the "scientifical" factor. To do this right would mean at least 1+ hours of observing, waiting for a particular girl to come down with at least 2 different men after 2 30 min sessions. And really 2 guys would not be enough. You would want guys who looked and somehow act like you, or a mix of widely different types, Ok, you don't have to hang around, you could come back guessing when the decent will occur. But then they extend the session, or you forget to come back. You see how the logistics of all rapidly becomes a time consuming project. And still no guarantee at all how she will be with [i]you[/i].
[/QUOTE]For some of us, it is practical to watch girls for very extended time with various customers on various days, and checking for any reports on them, before actually deciding to try them. Its also practical to get recommendations from guys with similar taste that are at least as demanding in the room or more so. For most girls I try, there is little urgency to try in a hurry since I will be returning to the club.
Many techniques for girl selection are useful.
When you meet a girl, and learn her name, its possible some guys will recall if she has had past good reviews or bad particularly if she is relatively famous, although its generally much easier if you already know the girl's name before reading reports about her.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1633734]Limey, an interesting read. I agree with most of what you say, but am not so sure about the observation regarding the walk downstairs. I expect bad sessions, and I accept that it is sometimes my fault, sometimes the girl, poor chemistry, bad day, the environment, whatever. It can't always be the girl, or she would not make sufficient money to stay there. I can also escape at 60 euros. I find it hard not to feel like I have got 60 euros of value. I enjoy the investigation. If I don't enjoy the meal, I don't dine again at the same restaurant. I don't often regret the experience. There is only one session at Artemis where I have felt 'robbed' and that was a case of egregious upselling. A girl constantly requesting that I shove my cock in her ass so that she can earn another 100 euros doesn't do it for me. In that way I am old-fashioned. The girl in question still approaches me every time she sees me, and we laugh about the fact that it was the worst session of my punting life. She has taken it as a challenge to have me try again. One day I will, just to see what happens.
I agree with the new girl thing. I am not at the club regularly enough to know, but I do find myself avoiding the girls who are part of the large groups. I assume the (in) famous "GSG".
TI also take an interest in how the girls are with the support staff, including the masseurs. If they are friendly and respectful with them, it is safe to assume that they will be friendly with me also.[/QUOTE]Well, if you go into all your visits expecting bad sessions, then I guess you will always come away satisfied. Low expectations may be a good strategy emotionally, but it also speaks poorly about Artemis that that is what it takes to have a good time.
Overall, I would agree with Limey, M1, PL assessments. There is definitely a hardcore professional vibe that emanates from the girls there, like they are trying to take you. You are there to enjoy yourself, and you are paying a hefty fee to do so. Pleasant interactions with the women is a perfectly reasonable expectation.
I also found the whole thing about the German gang corrupting newbie girls to be very interesting. I have seen this dynamic at the workplace many times. It is not particular to women or punting. If a workplace is really malignant, a gang of cynical "lifers" can make it difficult for new workers who try to do a good job. They get sore at him / her for raising the bar. They prefer the bar to be low.
It really surprises me that in such a big city like Berlin, that FKK Artemis remains unchallenged. They do such a poor job, that I would think that some enthusiastic young entrepeneur would open a nicer more user friendly FKK. They would crush Artemis overnight. There can't be a shortage of girls there. I'll bet that the locals have figured it out, and go to the bordellos for value. Hence Artemis earning the name-- tourist trap.
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[QUOTE=Manny51;1633857]Well, if you go into all your visits expecting bad sessions, then I guess you will always come away satisfied. Low expectations may be a good strategy emotionally, but it also speaks poorly about Artemis that that is what it takes to have a good time.[/QUOTE]I also expect (and get) great sessions. I just don't let the occasional bad session get to me. I take the view that practice will inevitably make me better, and I'm prepared to put in the time.
Artemis is the best of the four clubs that I have visited, the other three being in Frankfurt. It works great for me.
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German Sofa Group
I've never noticed the GSG actually. But I do have noticed a Romanian Sofa Group who usually sits by the sofas by the left and to the "north" of the bar when you first enter it. I always consider that area as a shark tank and I never talk to any of those girls even though I find some of them very attractive. The same goes for the girls who are sitting on the bar stools on that side of the bar.
I also recently rejected Nina and Zoey (she's the one with the tatts and the purple hair, right?) because of fatigue, not knowing what I was passing by. It kind of makes me feel like a football player who misses at a penalty shoot-out in a World Cup Final.
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1634251]I've never noticed the GSG actually. But I do have noticed a Romanian Sofa Group who usually sits by the sofas by the left and to the "north" of the bar when you first enter it. I always consider that area as a shark tank and I never talk to any of those girls even though I find some of them very attractive. The same goes for the girls who are sitting on the bar stools on that side of the bar.[/QUOTE]Talking about the sofa's around the dance pole close to the bar? You should give it a try, there's lots of very nice girls and some give good service. Don't take this GSG thing too seriously. I'm responsible for pulling up this GSG thing many times and thinking about it it was a stupid thing to do. In the same group there's girls that gave good service and some that gave terrible service. At the same time, people I know have some favorites among the ones that gave terrible service to me so, I guess YMMV rulez. You really never know, unless you get multiple real bad reports on the same girl. Totally unpredictable, but that's probably part of the fun. LOL.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1634270]Talking about the sofa's around the dance pole close to the bar? You should give it a try, there's lots of very nice girls and some give good service. Don't take this GSG thing too seriously.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]I agree and can warmly recommended Antonella, Romanian girl with red hair.
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Stratagèmes
[QUOTE=Kimino;1634270]Cose to the bar? You should give it a try, there's lots of very nice girls and some give good service. Don't take this GSG thing too seriously. I'm responsible for pulling up this GSG thing. [/QUOTE]Exactly, ALL of this is your fault. Soon we will read of The Mongers Couch Potatoes.
I remember Artemis before it became a video game. You went in, chose a nice girl, and had a great time. Why actually it was like that last night.
Simon -yes Zoey is The Illustrated Girl. But the football bit. . you maybe confusing the German word for goal with something with which it rhymes.
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My second visit, Wed 15th
Wednesday I visited Artemis for the second time this autumn. Arrived at 1:00 pm, very calm in the whole club, and not so many girls as I expected, but probably more girls than men.
I didn't recognize many of the girls from my first visit in last week of August, but Zoe (German) was there, she is very easy to spot for her totally red long hair. Zoe approached me very soon, and since I had a very nice session with her last time, I decided to go. First I thought she recognized me (silly me)., and that was the reason she approached me so soon. But she didn't seem to recognize me (why should she? And we went upstairs.
My first time with her was splendid, and she repeated this time. I'll try to not tell a Penthouse letter, she gave me a very nice session, will definitely repeat next time. Very active, I enjoyed BJ, 69, doggie and finished in missionary, all of very high class. Performance: 9, body: 10 (definitely the most fit girl that evening), hope I will get to meet her again.
After Zoe I had to rest, I love the wellnessarea in the basement. Bio-sauna is excellent for me, I spent a lot of time there during my stay. I also tried the lunch, didn't like it, hoped the food would be of higher standard.
I had a very long and very nice chat with Kira (Costa Rica / Germany). She told me lots and lots of things about living as an escort and working at Artemis. Very interesting young lady. Not my type, but she almost talked me upstairs. I loved her pierced nipples and the personality in general. She talked herself into my list for the next visit.
A young girl called Minnie (nationality unknown) approached me after a while. She was very charming, but not exactly my type and I said no. She tried again a little later, even more charming, and I decided to go with her. Boy, was I to regret that. Once in the room there was lots and lots and lots of upselling, even though I told her it was a total turn off to me. I like to stay with what we agree, and 30 minutes standard would be ok with her. She totally ruined the session and didn't even give me a good BJ. Performance: 1, total rip off.
I was a bit angry with myself after the Minnie-tragedy, and spent some more time in the wellness-area to get my spirit back. It is very nice sitting in the sauna and by the pool, chat with other guests a bit and just have a nice time. Also tried the restaurant again, food after 6 pm was ok.
I have spent many hours reading in this forum, and have learnt a lot. Actually all the nice words Artemis has gotten here was the reason I decided to try it the first time. I have of course read about Nina (Czech) and Fatima, and have been looking for them both, not been able to find them. Suddenly a Russian blonde called Natasha and Nina (Czech) approached me. Wow, how lucky for me, I was thinking, as Nina looked very nice. I wasn't interested in trying them both in a three-some, as I had a (very) bad experience last time. But now that I finally had found Nina I was sure I wanted to try her. So I did, and must tell you all the nice words I have read of her is absolutely true. In my "career" I must have tried more than 200 escorts in various parts of the world the last 25 years, and she is absolutely the best, without doubt! I am tempted to tell all details, but that would only make a Penthouse-letter of this post. Let me just tell that she was fantastic, a dream came true to me. Decided to stay for an hour, could easily been two for me, but ok to end an adventure as well. Performance: 10+, body: 8. Will definitely repeat, I even got her to tell me her plans for this fall so I am pretty sure she is present next time I am able to go.
After Nina I was about to leave with a very big smile on my face, but after some time Solida (Italy) approached me. At first I wasn't into her, but she charmed me quite a bit, and since I liked her body, face and attitude I went with her upstairs. I was tired and not so horny, but she worked me up and made a good session out of it. Performance: 7, body 8. Will probably not repeat, but that's only because there are so many other hot women I want to try out.
I had now spent 10 hours at Artemis, was tired and left. In total this was a fantastic visit, mostly thanks to Nina, but also because of Kira and Zoe. I am already planning my next visit.
My first visit was last week of August, also a Wednesday. My impression was that there was a lot more girls present this time, and also more variety in girls-types. Next time I plan to go on a Thursday, I would like to see the place full of totally naked girls.
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Gsg
Kimino. When I come to think of it, Shaz sits there and she is great. I've also experienced two blonde girls from that group. I think one of them is named Ivana. They are both natural (at least I think so). Both of them seemed to despise me in the room, which actually was a turn on for me even though I would propably not repeat any of them.
RB. I'm afraid I lost you there. I don't speak any German.
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1634251]I've never noticed the GSG actually. But I do have noticed a Romanian Sofa Group who usually sits by the sofas by the left and to the "north" of the bar when you first enter it. I always consider that area as a shark tank and I never talk to any of those girls even though I find some of them very attractive. The same goes for the girls who are sitting on the bar stools on that side of the bar.
I also recently rejected Nina and Zoey (she's the one with the tatts and the purple hair, right?) because of fatigue, not knowing what I was passing by. It kind of makes me feel like a football player who misses at a penalty shoot-out in a World Cup Final.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I wasn't sure which sofa was the GSG. There were two sofa "groups" that I saw. When you are entering the bar / lounge through the main entrance, along the main throughfare, the bar is on you right, and there is a line of couches on your left. This first sofa had some German looking girls. This throughfare ends, and you are facing a couch. This couch also ahd some german looking girls. I wasn't sure which was the GSG.
There was a very porcelin pretty girl on the first couch on the left. She sat there with her legs crossed, never smiled, never moved. She was icy. There was a "girl with the dragon tattoo" short hair blond girl on the second, end couch.
That's what I saw.
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I have wondered why the girls sit in groups. I guess very few customers approach them while they do, maybe they consider that "sofa-in-group-time" for an hour off duty?
They are of course at the club for money, and need pauses, but I find it a little strange they choose to stay so much in groups.
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1634308]Kimino. When I come to think of it, Shaz sits there and she is great. [/QUOTE]Yep, that's what I'm saying. Also Nadja falls in the group and she is great. Same for Annika, when she was there.
I can't figure out who Shaz is.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1634300]But now that I finally had found Nina I was sure I wanted to try her. So I did, and must tell you all the nice words I have read of her is absolutely true. In my "career" I must have tried more than 200 escorts in various parts of the world the last 25 years, and she is absolutely the best, without doubt![/QUOTE]I would probably say the same. She has all the tricks to make you feel special, and is remarkably unjaded from her work.
Seek out Fatima next time. Not quite the same service level as Nina, but close, and probably the nicest girl that I have met in my punting career. Catch her while you can.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1634300]Solida (Italy)
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Nr 71. Doesn't change anything but Solida is Romanian, lived in Spain for a while, I think. But she does speak very good italian, like many Romanians.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1634363]Doesn't change anything but Solida is Romanian, lived in Spain for a while, I think. But she does speak very good italian..[/QUOTE]Indeed using that angelic voice that makes the hounds dogs howl. RB finds her scarey. Once again, the mystery of it all only deepens.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1634361]Seek out Fatima next time. Not quite the same service level as Nina, but close, and probably the nicest girl that I have met in my punting career. Catch her while you can.[/QUOTE]I am very eager to try Fatima based on what I have read on here, but this time I couldn't find her. I will call for help on here before my next trip.
I got a pretty good description of Nina, but it was mostly luck that I ran into her.
Describing girls on a forum is not very easy.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1634363]Thanks for the report Nr 71. Doesn't change anything but Solida is Romanian, lived in Spain for a while, I think. But she does speak very good italian, like many Romanians.[/QUOTE]She was the one claiming she was Italian. She apparently fooled me, but I don't care. Some of the girls probably mean they get more clients if they claim to be western-Europeans.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1634373]Indeed using that angelic voice that makes the hounds dogs howl. RB finds her scarey. Once again, the mystery of it all only deepens.[/QUOTE]I see your point! I found her very funny (and a bit crazy), in short portions (in which the voice for obvious reasons cannot be used all the time), but I wouldn't marry her.
But, I have always got very good sessions together with her and I will repeat for sure.
Blue.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1634300]A young girl called Minnie (nationality unknown) approached me after a while. She was very charming, but not exactly my type and I said no. She tried again a little later, even more charming, and I decided to go with her. Boy, was I to regret that. Once in the room there was lots and lots and lots of upselling, even though I told her it was a total turn off to me. I like to stay with what we agree, and 30 minutes standard would be ok with her. She totally ruined the session and ..............[/QUOTE]Mini is a German girl. She is famous for upselling. I know her from different Clubs in German republic, for example Harmony in Seevetal and Paradise in Stuttgart.
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[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1634576]Mini is a German girl. She is famous for upselling. I know her from different Clubs in German republic, for example Harmony in Seevetal and Paradise in Stuttgart.[/QUOTE]I usually don't like to talk bad about others, but Mini deserved every single word I wrote.
Two visits at Artemis for me so far, met sharks and upsellers both times (Janine and Alexis in a 3-some the first time). But I guess that's the nature of this game.
I still left the place with a big smile on my face both times.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1634730]I usually don't like to talk bad about others, but Mini deserved every single word I wrote.
Two visits at Artemis for me so far, met sharks and upsellers both times (Janine and Alexis in a 3-some the first time). But I guess that's the nature of this game.
I still left the place with a big smile on my face both times.[/QUOTE]It is strange how different people viewing the girls.
I have been with Minnie several times and I really do like her, I like her face, She's pretty, Okay she is a seller, for sure, She always try to sell anal and such, But I think almost all the girls tries to sell more then you want to buy, I just say to the girl with my convincing voice that I really do hate the anal sex and the discussion is over, simple as that, I was with Minnie this Sunday for two whole hours, I like long sessions if the girl delivers a good moment for me, and she really did, she gave me a real good GFE once again, Very good! 8,5 out of 10.
I also had a wonderful moment with Angel from Nigeria again, Oh what I like to play with baby oil on that body, she is also a seller and she can also be a bit nagging but if you can make her laugh and smile she becomes a completely different person, I always tries to joke everything up a bit if I can, with every girl, I don't take the game so seriously, but of course, in the end it's all about the chemistry.
I also had two other sessions but I don't remember the names, but all of my four sessions was very good this time. Artemis is absolutely a fantastic place on earth.
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Italian dream
[QUOTE=Kimino;1634363]Thanks for the report Nr 71. Doesn't change anything but Solida is Romanian, lived in Spain for a while, I think.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Really?!? I thought she was from Tuscany, in Florence province. Well you never know. And I went with her only because I thought she was italian, having a thing for (young) Monica Bellucci. Really disappointed.
Cheers.
Buck.
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1635235]Really?!? I thought she was from Tuscany, in Florence province. Well you never know. And I went with her only because I thought she was italian, having a thing for (young) Monica Bellucci. Really disappointed.[/QUOTE]OMFG. In former times she came from Spain and called herself Soledad. Boy, just sit and watch whom of the girls she's chatting with and in which language she's chatting. But, don't be disappointed, her BBBJ is one of the best in Artemis as I've heard, and: while she's sucking you, she doesn't talk. And that's the best what can happen for you. Solida doesn't talk. Heaven on Earth.
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Valeska and Carolina (Polish)
Hi Guys,
Have you seen these two girls lately in Artemis?
Thanks.
Naykan.
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[QUOTE=Naykan;1635449]Hi Guys,
Have you seen these two girls lately in Artemis?
Thanks.
Naykan.[/QUOTE]I saw Valeska on my September visit (a Thursday), but not during my October visit (a Monday). I don't know Carolina.
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Valeska and Carolina
Hi Naykan, Valeska has definitely been there at the anniversary party three weeks ago. We had a beautiful time together so I can say for sure she was there. About Carolina I just don't remember.
If you really want to know just call the reception prior to your visit.
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Meetup with members
Hi,
I am thinking of visiting the place either this week or next week. If anyone if interested in going and showing me the ropes, it be great. Just PM me and we can arrange to time.
Thanks and looking forward to Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1635256]OMFG. In former times she came from Spain and called herself Soledad. Boy, just sit and watch whom of the girls she's chatting with and in which language she's chatting. But, don't be disappointed, her BBBJ is one of the best in Artemis as I've heard, and: while she's sucking you, she doesn't talk. And that's the best what can happen for you. Solida doesn't talk. Heaven on Earth.[/QUOTE]I was joking LOL. But it is not clear to me if you are joking as well. About the best BBBJ and above all Heaven on Hearth.
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Gsg
[QUOTE=Kimino;1634357]Yep, that's what I'm saying. Also Nadja falls in the group and she is great. Same for Annika, when she was there.
I can't figure out who Shaz is.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Who are they? (how do they look).
Shaz is Turkish. Petite body, big titts, nice face. Wears her hair in a pony tail and has a birth mark under her left eye brow.
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Iman the amazing Ethiopian
Hi all,
Has anyone seen her lately.
Been to Artemis last month mostly with Romanians beauty and my favorite girl Heaven but haven't seen Iman which is one of my whole time favorites, amazing BJJ skills and a body to die for.
Any info will be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1635934]Who are they? (how do they look).
Shaz is Turkish. Petite body, big titts, nice face. Wears her hair in a pony tail and has a birth mark under her left eye brow.[/QUOTE]We have already described Nadja and Annika many times in this thread I guess.
Annika has left Artemis a long time ago.
Nadja is a 5'9" tall blonde German from Hamburg with green eyes, long legs, perfect silicone boobs, many tattoos including a big one on her back and a few piercings. She is a nice and very correct person and among the most gorgeous women in Artemis. No DFK.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1635964]We have already described Nadja and Annika many times in this thread I guess.
Annika has left Artemis a long time ago.
Nadja is a 5'9" tall blonde German from Hamburg with green eyes, long legs, perfect silicone boobs, many tattoos including a big one on her back and a few piercings. She is a nice and very correct person and among the most gorgeous women in Artemis. No DFK.[/QUOTE]Agree totally with what Diplomat said, just adding that the tatoo on the back are giant angel wings. At first glance she could look as an ice queen (that's what I thought when I first saw her), but it's just her image. A real barbie doll. Just so you can identify her more easily.
Kimino.
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New girls at Artemis
Are there new girls at Artemis? I like slim and young. Last time I was there in August but there was all the same girls from June.
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[QUOTE=BegaBega;1636198]Are there new girls at Artemis? I like slim and young. Last time I was there in August but there was all the same girls from June.[/QUOTE]Saw a new Thai girl these past few days. Name is Sona I think. And a young slim petite German / Turkish blonde that I haven't seen before.
There was also a new slim small girl from Venezuela with a little dark skin that I haven't seen before. Otherwise there were a few German blondes that I haven't seen before. Not too short, but slim. At least 4 new ones that I haven't seen before. One of them was very good looking though. Lots of tattoos on all of them, but I didn't ask for names.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1636231]Otherwise there were a few german blondes that I haven't seen before. Not too short, but slim. At least 4 new ones that I haven't seen before. One of them was very good looking though. Lots of tatoos on all of them, but I didn't ask for names.[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting. LOL.
I'll be up tomorrow.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=BegaBega;1636198]Are there new girls at Artemis? I like slim and young. Last time I was there in August but there was all the same girls from June.[/QUOTE]All new? Very slim? Just grab Esra: 25 yrs, 5'8', 99 lb (she claimes 99, IMHO less), black hair, very small tits, all skin and bones. Two weeks in Artemis or so. Romanian, often wandering around aside Brianna (slim as well, reddish hair actually). Average English.
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Sorry for asking
30 mn= 60 euro is that for flat regular action?
BBBJ, CIM, Deepthroat, Anal are what they are trying to sell?
How much for divers prestation?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1635256]her BBBJ is one of the best in Artemis as I've heard, and: while she's sucking you, she doesn't talk. And that's the best what can happen for you.[/QUOTE]I can confirm all of it! It's like a KinderEgg. .
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Update
Does anyone know if the following girls are still found in artemis. Charlie de, megan, de. Hannah pol. Stunning twins? Will be back in December 15/12-22/12/ salut.
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[QUOTE=Haokool;1636248]30 mn= 60 euro is that for flat regular action?
BBBJ, CIM, Deepthroat, Anal are what they are trying to sell?
How much for divers prestation?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Basic service is 60 Euro for 30 Minutes. You can come once during that time. BBBJ, vaginal sex included. Licking and kissing often depends on the girl but they are not allowed to charge extra for it.
Extras are anal sex (additional 100 Euro), CIM (+50 Euro) and other services. Ask the girl before you go to the room if you want to be on the safe side concerning what's on offer.
Concerning StarletVoyager's questions: The so called 'twins' have not been at Artemis for a long time. I haven't seen Megan for quite some times. About the other girls I am not sure.
However, honestly it makes much more sense to call the reception prior to your arrival than to ask here 2 months in advance. Even if they were all here nobody knows if they will be there in 2 months.
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[QUOTE=Haokool;1636248]How much for divers prestation?[/QUOTE]Never heard of this. Did you mean divers protection because of all the alleged sharks there? I think you can rent a shark cage but don't know the price.
But if you explain what this is, we might be able to help.
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Funny hardcore upselling and the best threesome in my FKK career
Was there yesterday, Friday. We arrived very early, around 11:30. Already quite a few girls around, many german girls. After 10 minutes chatting on a sofa with Buck Rogers a girl showed up trying to convince me to get in a room. I never found out her name, said her father was from Granada, her mother Hungarian (or the other way round), anyways she was speaking good spanish (which I kind of like). Quite tall, long brown hair, nice body, saw her many times. Clearly a hardcore upseller but I wanted to fool around and see until what point she would go. Started with "We do an hour and I give you good massage", Told her I hated massages. Continued with "We do an hour and you can come twice". Answered I could never come twice in an hour. Kept on with this BS but I wasn't annoyed by it, it was a game and I found her sexy anyway. After a while of this I told her something like "Ok, we go to the room but If you BS me, after 2 minutes I'll drag you down to the reception, ok?" Off we went. In the room she kept going for a while asking if we would do an hour or what. It ended up in a decent plain vanilla, 30 min. Session. Her service was average and we stayed for the whole time. Strange experience. Probably a stupid thing to do, I know.
Then many hours looking around, chatting and not really being able to decide who to get. Decided for Vegas and it was a good choice. Strange girl, felt she was completely ignoring me (not that I care) but in the room she was great.
The threesome part. I've been doing zimmers (one on one) with both Nicoletta (BG) and Sissy (BG) for quite a long time. Really like the two girls and the chemistry is great. Both of them a few times asked me why we didn't try a threesome together but being that I'm not a fan of threesomes and that the previous threesome FKK experiences (with other girls) had always been quite shitty, I didn't want to spoil the fun with these two girls. But then, I like both very much, they are friends, they asked me, why not. It was the perfect situation. So I picked both and went to a room, they were quite surprised about this as I've been procrastinating for a while. Well, I must say I had great fun, watching them having sex together (for real), interacting with both of them together, was all great. Both very sweet and hot, like they always are. But I knew I couldn't finish with both of them, I'm not able to concentrate and so, like always, I called a time out and told them I would like to extend the time but just with one girl or I would never make it. Which girl for me was absolutely the same, but I decided for Nicoletta, so Sissy left. I spent some time with her later and she did understand what was going on. So yeah, had fun, a lot. Not sure If I would repeat, but It was the best threesome I had in an FKK.
Later on got Debbie (DE), reported quite a few times previously. Total GFE. Currently among my favorites. Would make a great 4 am girl, but I went with her around midnight. My last girl at 3:30 was Viola (Rus), long session until closing time, great.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1636278]Does anyone know if the following girls are still found in artemis. Charlie de, megan, de. Hannah pol. Stunning twins? Will be back in December 15/12-22/12/ salut.[/QUOTE]Last time I saw Hannah was in 2013, I don't think that she works in Artemis a longer time. The same with Megan, I saw her in April 2014 last time.
Who is Charlie? Do you mean the german / maroc-mix called Charlien? She is quite tall.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1636757] The threesome part. I've been doing zimmers (one on one) with both Nicoletta (BG) and Sissy (BG) for quite a long time. Really like the two girls and the chemistry is great. Both of them a few times asked me why we didn't try a threesome together but being that I'm not a fan of threesomes and that the previous threesome FKK experiences (with other girls) had always been quite shitty, I didn't want to spoil the fun with these two girls. But then, I like both very much, they are friends, they asked me, why not. It was the perfect situation. So I picked both and went to a room, they were quite surprised about this as I've been procrastinating for a while. Well, I must say I had great fun, watching them having sex together (for real), interacting with both of them together, was all great. Both very sweet and hot, like they always are. But I knew I couldn't finish with both of them, I'm not able to concentrate and so, like always, I called a time out and told them I would like to extend the time but just with one girl or I would never make it. Which girl for me was absolutely the same, but I decided for Nicoletta, so Sissy left. I spent some time with her later and she did understand what was going on. So yeah, had fun, a lot. Not sure If I would repeat, but It was the best threesome I had in an FKK.
[/QUOTE]I don't think that I'd ever have the nerve to ask one of the girls to leave! But, I understand the problem. I usually session with one girl, and then ask her to go and find her friend. The risk is obviously that her friend is now busy, but I have found that the best way to get success from a threesome.
Sounds like you had a great day.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1636642]
But if you explain what this is, we might be able to help.[/QUOTE]My guess was that he meant 'multiple positions'. So I think Diplomat has it covered.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1636757] But I knew I couldn't finish with both of them, I'm not able to concentrate and so, like always, I called a time out and told them I would like to extend the time but just with one girl...
Later on got Debbie (DE), reported quite a few times previously. [/QUOTE]Well, the Debbie secret is no more I guess.
I once had a 3-some, and after 30 minutes, the girls stayed and asked me to leave.
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Is watching a girl masturbate considered an extra?
Haven't been able to find the answer to this question on the board. I really enjoy watching a beautiful girl play with her body, and it would be a great turn on if it could be part of a session at Artemis. In Denmark a "masturbation show" is always included in half hours and up if the client so desires, and it is a great way to start things off. But I really don't know if I am prepared to pay an extra 50 euros for it.
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[QUOTE=Lilleskutt;1636858] I really enjoy watching a beautiful girl play with her body, and it would be a great turn on if it could be part of a session at Artemis. [/QUOTE]This will really depend upon the girl and your mutual chemistry. Some would just do this in the flow of things if you ask; some will sense a money-making opportunity. First, you are surely right not to want to pay for this. I mean really, to pay them for their pleasure is absurd. So you have to decide if this is a deal-breaker for you. If it is, you might ask before going up to the room. If it is just a kind of nice thing if it happens, you can certainly ask as things get going. Asking before going up will of course signal to them a potential new source of income and you'll just have to decide how you will react to their response. But if the chemistry is fine between you, most girls would do this as part of the show. It will depend also on how you ask. All a bit grey so just decide how important this is to you.
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[QUOTE=Lilleskutt;1636858]Haven't been able to find the answer to this question on the board. I really enjoy watching a beautiful girl play with her body, and it would be a great turn on if it could be part of a session at Artemis. In Denmark a "masturbation show" is always included in half hours and up if the client so desires, and it is a great way to start things off. But I really don't know if I am prepared to pay an extra 50 euros for it.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine ever paying extra for this. To me, it would be downright silly if a girl asked extra for this. I would just laugh at her.
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Artemis now and next week
Anyone going to A in the next week please drop me a pm if you have a few seconds to help me out. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1636231]Saw a new thai girl these past few days. Name is Sona I think. And a young slim petite german / turkish blonde that I haven't seen before.
There was also a new slim small girl from venezuela with a little dark skin that I haven't seen before. Otherwise there were a few german blondes that I haven't seen before. Not too short, but slim. At least 4 new ones that I haven't seen before. One of them was very good looking though. Lots of tatoos on all of them, but I didn't ask for names.[/QUOTE]Hi there,
Was a Venezuelan girl with dark skin, at Sharks until recently small and petite, her name at Sharks was Samantha, I wonder if this is her? If so she was a good performer at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Lilleskutt;1636858]Haven't been able to find the answer to this question on the board. I really enjoy watching a beautiful girl play with her body, and it would be a great turn on if it could be part of a session at Artemis. In Denmark a "masturbation show" is always included in half hours and up if the client so desires, and it is a great way to start things off. But I really don't know if I am prepared to pay an extra 50 euros for it.[/QUOTE]No, every time I cannot cum and I jerk off, I tell her to masturbate as well, so I can cum it is free.
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Artemis 101
Charlie123 has done a huge service and posted the definitive current summary of all that is on in Berlin, in the Berlin Thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1637749&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1637749.
I quote from his summary section on Artemis, as it might serve as a reference here for newbies who just want to know the basics apart from its website: [URL]www.fkk-artemis.de[/URL].
Which also explains directions, etc. This post can be used now to refer all to a tight summary of how it all goes down in the Fick Fabrik / Love Bahnhoff To quote:
FKK Artemis.
FKK is a Germanic naturist movement, whose most concrete representation in modern Germany is to be found in the proliferation of FKK clubs across almost every big conurbation in the country (see [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikoerperkultur[/URL] for more info on the origins of this movement).
FKK clubs essentially large brothels, almost always with some spa or health club facilities attached to them, and usually with swimming pools and saunas too. In brothels however, you are usually led to a private room to select a companion and contact with other punters is expressly avoided. FKK clubs are totally different, there are extensive public areas. The girls and the male guests routinely hang around in the lounge or spa areas in mixed company and the changing areas and showers are also designated public areas.
Typically you would pay an entrance fee (80 E at Artemis) entitling you to free use of the club and free soft drinks and food all day. Sex costs extra and is payable to the girls. You put your valuables in a small private safe, undress, shower and put on a dressing gown. The bar will be full of scantily-clad girls and a number of other men similarly attired. Chat to a few girls, pick one you like and go with her to the room for as long as you like or can afford. 'Basic Service' includes uncovered BJ and protected sex. Kissing and reverse oral are examples of non-cost items that the girl may or may not like to indulge in. Anal sex, CIM (cum in mouth) and CIF (cum in face) are examples of additional services that may be available, and if they are then a price supplement would apply. Each 30 minutes (or any part thereof) costs 60 E, and additional services attract an additional cost. All money is paid to the girl after the session ends, in cash.
The FKK model offers many advantages. The chance to mingle with the girls before making your selection is a huge benefit. But FKK doesn't suit everybody; many people are concerned about the public interaction. It's not the purpose of this report to weigh those arguments here the Artemis thread on this website covers these questions in extraordinary depth and should prove very informative for anybody who is interested in learning more about the attractions and challenges of the FKK scene.
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On the subject of extras.
Is there a complete list of extras that is written in stone or is it up to the girl if she chooses to charge for a particular service? Ejaculating between a girls breasts for instance. That is also normally included in Denmark, but I suspect it might be an extra at Artemis. Could it be that on a slow night some girls are prepared to go the extra mile and includes more in the basic 60 euro package? Negotiating every minute detail of a sexual encounter really feels unsexy, but maybe that is the only way to go about it to avoid disappointment.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1637767]Charlie123 has done a huge service and posted the definitive current summary of all that is on in Berlin, in the Berlin Thread.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing Charlie123's opus to my attention. Tempted to try one of the bordelles on my next trip.
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Thank you, RocketBoy!
Makes me sure my choice of visiting Artemis some times a year is the right thing to do.
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[QUOTE=Lilleskutt;1637965]Is there a complete list of extras that is written in stone or is it up to the girl if she chooses to charge for a particular service.[/QUOTE]Charlie123 had covered this below but it will depend a bit on the girl. As I said earlier if these needs of yours are deal breakers, ask before hitting the Zimmer. If not go with the flow. Flowng on breast s should not cost extra but YMMV. Beware also the danger of over-thinking.
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Anyone seen Angie from Kosovo lately?
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Sunday in Artemis. First time
I was on a business trip in Berlin in mid-October and during pub activity on Oranienburger Strasse where are a lot of birds in sexy outfit I had a talk with my fellow who visits Berlin frequently told me that these Oranienburger girls are usual tourist trap and scam and suggested to visit either Berlin Gangbang parties or FKK Artemis as best scene in town.
I was before in Wiener Golden Time and in Prague Sauna Club which both work as FKK brothel type and I decided to check Artemis as well.
Unfortunately I have not visited this forum and thread before my visit and I would like to say guys I really sorry because definitely information here can make ROI after visit this page is two-three times bigger.
So, I arrived around 6 PM on Sunday evening, a lot of girls were already in and ratio to guests was 1:1,5. Payment 80, locker room, shower. It is very turning on when you see naked girls right near reception when they are waiting for a cash or just walking from ladies changing room.
Wellness area is good and quiet, nice spot for relax. Food is average quality like in German cantines for blue collars. Actually it is strange to expect gourmet dinner for everything including 80 EUR deal. If to compare it with Austrian GT I would say that food is same quality but wellness is definitely better.
Main lounge area is actually cool place, a lot of naked girls a bit smoky and big bar. I had bought 2 coupons for alcohol drinks and was just staring for a girls line-up. Quality of working girls in Artemis is fantastic. I usually prefer either slim or rather skinny women or good trained athletic bodies and here you have really good choice for it.
When I was drinking on the bar four girls approached me, but I told that I have just arrived and need a time to cool down and make my decision. Almost all the girls were from Romania and only one actually took a refuse with a good smile her name was Brianne, she told that she is from Spain but probably from Romania.
Then I made a tour in a porno-kino downstairs and was surprised about activity on the couches. On 3 of them girls were making BJ to guests. An interesting scene was on one couch where two Russian guys took two Russian speaking girls and they were sucking them staying on their knees, looks like it was a very long time session that girls were complaining about why they are not coming and tried to switch to intercourse in order to finish the service but guys were insisting on 30 minutes BJ. As Russian is one of my native languages I was really laughing about this scene and conversation.
In the Kino I was approached by one lady with very curvy body and big-big tits and ass. She was quite pushy but I turned her off.
My original plan was to have two 30 minutes sessions but after discovering great line-up I have decided to score until I have strenght.
My first choice was Irina Romanian girl (her pictures are on web-page of Artemis) great body, blond hair. Service was average, poor BJ, not allowed DATY, only light kissing. Sex and foreplay was OK but not impressive. So not recommended.
Second choice was this skinny girl Brianne, she catched me in the Kino area and I have decided to have 30 minutes with her in the room downstairs. She has perfect body and do rather good service BJ and sex was good. She allows DATY as well.
Third choice was Romanian girl Isabella she approached me near shower in the wellness area and I was impressed by her fantastic fitness body. She also have her pictures on the website. She looks like old-pro around her 30 but her body is gorgeous and any 18 -20 year old could be jealous. I was not in a mood for long session and I was keen to try this Fuck on a couch in Kino area. She did very good long BJ and afterall was riding me in two sex position which was fantastic. I kinda like this Gangbang style in brothel when 3-4 couples are having sex on the couches nearby and people walking around in a shadow area. So Isabella definitely recommended for such a fairness quickie. I think she does not perform well in GFE or in passion style.
Fourth choice was young black girl Kimi, she is from Bahamas according to her. She has with very good English and we had pleasant conversation with a bit of teasing in the lounge area. She is not tall, 163-165 cm. Her body is absolutely gorgeous perfect tits and booty and she is really beautiful and has charming voice. Her service was also big pleasure, real GFE. Very recommended.
I also was interested to try one skinny blond girl with angel wings tattoos on her back. Nadja as I can see from Diplomat reports. Also there one Czech girl her name was Fatima as I remember we had pleasant chat in Czech language. Also there was very interesting tall mulato red-hair colored girl in black shorts and big silicon boobs, do not know her name but interested in the reviews as I will definitely going to visit Artemis this year one or two times.
Just to summarize. Place is great and worth several visits in order to try best of its line-up. Value for money is better then in Wiener Golden Time. It is more expensive than Prague which is my usual sex for money destination but anyway strongly recommended. Big thanks to the guys who created so many nice reports about Art FKK I am really looking forward for next visit.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1638591]Anyone seen Angie from Kosovo lately?[/QUOTE]No not in Artemis. I met her in Golden Time in April 2014.
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Lilleskutt
The girls are stressed already with countless strange characters swarming over them. I always find that finding a girl you really really like and saying you want an hour will make her happy and just going with the flow is always best. Once in the room little indicators of what you like with no pressure and see what she does. Following this rule I have had some incredible responses from the girls once in the room to my surprise. The only small exception maybe if you gently asks if she likes to kiss beforehand. It is a gamble and you hope it pays off because too much talk outside the room is definitely a deal breaker IMHO. instinct never lies.
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Great review, where do you recomend in Prague?
I had a very poor experience in Prague but noted you like it a lot. Where do you recommend?
I am going to Artemis today to celebrate a business deal. First time. Can't wait!
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December
Hi,
Will be visiting A at the beginning of December again.
Is anyone going to be there?
Did any of you guys seen Iman lately?
Hope you'll have a great Halloween party.
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[QUOTE=Blover34;1639267]Hi, Will be visiting A at the beginning of December again. Is anyone going to be there?[/QUOTE]Yes, people will be there, both men and women. Difficult to say who, or when, though; all part of life's mysteries..
[QUOTE]Did any of you guys seen Iman lately?[/QUOTE]Yep.
[QUOTE]Hope you'll have a great Halloween party.[/QUOTE]My ween is hallowed.
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[QUOTE=ZenMe;1639161]I am going to Artemis today to celebrate a business deal. First time. Can't wait![/QUOTE]Well Artemis is first and foremost a place of commerce. One business deal after another. So-while this announcement of yours is of course interesting, what about a report on your first time (minus logistics, decor, entrance fee, and layout info, as these are all paths well trodden)?
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[QUOTE=Blover34;1639267]Hi,
Will be visiting A at the beginning of December again.
Is anyone going to be there?[/QUOTE]I have planned a trip on Thursday 11th of December.
Would like to meet up if someone from this forum also is visiting that day.
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18-22 babes
Whats the availability generally of girls of this kind at artemis these days. Normally frankfurt clubs seem to have more from my observations. Also is there a minimium age at artemis for the girls to enter the club.
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Enriette
[QUOTE=Kimino;1596934]Anyone spotted Enriette (very young girl from koln that arrived at the club about 3/4 weeks ago, think she told me she wouldn't be there for long...)[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure I saw her in June. Gorgeous light brunette or dark blonde, perfect skin, no tats or enhancements of any kind. Pure beauty. I've thought it strange that no one has otherwise commented about her in any way since. Literally had to stalk her coming down the stairs because she could never get two steps back into the club without someone else grabbing her. I had thought her name might be something like Henriecke, but you can never trust your ears in these places. I'm sure we're talking about the same girl.
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In my opinion Artemis is not the best place for 18-22 years old, but it is a matter of opinion.
Visually I prefer younger girls myself, but for myself I found in Artemis the best age / look / service combination being like 24-28, but it is just my experience, that is not an adequate sample size.
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1640483]In my opinion Artemis is not the best place for 18-22 years old, but it is a matter of opinion.
Visually I prefer younger girls myself, but for myself I found in Artemis the best age / look / service combination being like 24-28, but it is just my experience, that is not an adequate sample size.[/QUOTE]Me too, I much prefer girls. Especially those who just began in FKK business.
In Artemis, girls told me that they need experience of about 1 year in another FKK clubs before working in Artemis. I have found self claimed 21 years old, so if it is true, you still do find some experienced girls in Artemis.
Where do you think is the place where I can find 18-20 years old girls in FKK in Germany? Especially the German girls?
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1640551]Me too, I much prefer girls. Especially those who just began in FKK business.
In Artemis, girls told me that they need experience of about 1 year in another FKK clubs before working in Artemis. I have found self claimed 21 years old, so if it is true, you still do find some experienced girls in Artemis.
Where do you think is the place where I can find 18-20 years old girls in FKK in Germany? Especially the German girls?[/QUOTE]MrHo, I noticed this after years of punting that I choose younger girls and girls tend to be new to the scene. There are young girls everywhere, but some clubs tend to have higher number of experienced girls or pros. I've been punting at the NRW for this reason, and I'm sure lots of punters that take trips there likely for the same reason. Chances of finding chemistry with girls were much higher at the NRW, and the other big clubs seemed too professional. Sure you would find good performers at the big tourist clubs, but the experience is different. Some clubs that you will find new girls in biz are Samya, ACA, LR, Magnum. PHG used to always have young new girls, not sure if that still goes on. GT I'm not a big fan of in terms of new girls. You have to get with them earlier when they start in the club before the service starts to degrade. GT is always packed with punters and once the good ones become known, they will be constantly in and out of the room, and likely they will start to drop their service and/or start to up-sell. I attend GT on a periodic basis so once I spot a new attractive girl, I take her before she becomes known. Samya and ACA is the place to go for new young girls. New girls at the NRW are pretty much Romanians and some Bulgarians. At times you will see some new Germans, but it's likely going to be at GT.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1640608]MrHo, I noticed this after years of punting that I choose younger girls and girls tend to be new to the scene. There are young girls everywhere, but some clubs tend to have higher number of experienced girls or pros. I've been punting at the NRW for this reason, and I'm sure lots of punters that take trips there likely for the same reason. Chances of finding chemistry with girls were much higher at the NRW, and the other big clubs seemed too professional. Sure you would find good performers at the big tourist clubs, but the experience is different. Some clubs that you will find new girls in biz are Samya, ACA, LR, Magnum. PHG used to always have young new girls, not sure if that still goes on. GT I'm not a big fan of in terms of new girls. You have to get with them earlier when they start in the club before the service starts to degrade. GT is always packed with punters and once the good ones become known, they will be constantly in and out of the room, and likely they will start to drop their service and/or start to up-sell. I attend GT on a periodic basis so once I spot a new attractive girl, I take her before she becomes known. Samya and ACA is the place to go for new young girls. New girls at the NRW are pretty much Romanians and some Bulgarians. At times you will see some new Germans, but it's likely going to be at GT.[/QUOTE]That is the cons of Artemis, there are no new girl to the industry.
However, I found this polish girl named Olga, I do not know if she is still there, but she was new to Artemis this summer and I caught her on first day, but not new to the FKK scene though; Again girls apparently need to have some experience before working at Artemis.
Hmmm cannot judge by race, but I always tend to have better sessions with German girls than eastern European girls. This is just my experience.
ACA and Samya. Hmmmm. I have been residence at Artemis for years, but maybe I try those clubs, but maybe GT is a choice since I can be there at like 1 PM in afternoon to catch the fresh German girl as I am sex tourist doing nothing but sex all day when I am in Germany.
I wonder how the opening of this grand Palais in potsdam will change things in Artemis? Will it be like FKK palace and Oase in FRA?
It will bring some level of competition and I am certain that each club will have to show their flavors.
Talk about girl, I miss germane girl Ivy, I got her the first day of her work at Artemis like 3 or 4 years ago. She was teeny, she grew into pro and now she is gone. I do not see her anymore. It is funny how I managed to see her not able to give blow job at the beginning to giving pro blow job with proper sex as years went by and now she is gone.
The relations we develop with FKK girl is funny thing and make me feel like Autumn season when I come to know they are gone for good.
So many memories at Artemis.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1640608]MrHo, I noticed this after years of punting that I choose younger girls and girls tend to be new to the scene. There are young girls everywhere, but some clubs tend to have higher number of experienced girls or pros. I've been punting at the NRW for this reason, [/QUOTE]And RB is very partial to dinosaurs found near Aral petrol stations.
And if you really like young German girls, may I suggest a university pub and 50 Euros offered with style and charm.
But all of this has nothing to do with Artemis, which is the purpose of this thread. So if you all need to carry on, Lounge it, bitte.
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I'll be at The A. On Thursday. Anyone know if Avril or Nina are working? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1640897]I'll be at The A. On Thursday. Anyone know if Avril or Nina are working? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think Nina is on holiday this week. My memory is not always reliable, but I'm sure she said it was scheduled for early November.
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Note:
Train drivers are on strike in Germany, strike will last from Thursday morning 'til Monday morning. Due to strike, there will be no S-Bahn service available at Westkreuz resp. Halensee station during this period.
Maybe you choose Metro (Kaiserdamm station, U2, 15 minutes walking distance, or Adenauerplatz station, U7, 20 minutes walking distance) or Bus (M19 or M29 inter alia, just a short stroll from stop S-Bahnhof Halensee).
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1641352]Maybe you choose Metro (Kaiserdamm station, U2, 15 minutes walking distance, or Adenauerplatz station, U7, 20 minutes walking distance) or Bus (M19 or M29 inter alia, just a short stroll from stop S-Bahnhof Halensee).[/QUOTE]There is also bus 104 from Halensee / Kurfurstendam that goes North and in 3 minutes, it stops at Westkreuz. And continues to Kantstr near the ICC. Coming in the opposite direction from Kantstr. Or at night it is the N42. Going south the stop is across the autobahn. Use the [URL]www.BVG.de[/URL] planner for details. Or take a taxi from a near by U7 or U2 stop.
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B v g
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1641472]There is also bus 104 from Halensee / Kurfurstendam that goes North and in 3 minutes, it stops at Westkreuz. And continues to Kantstr near the ICC. Coming in the opposite direction from Kantstr. Or at night it is the N42. Going south the stop is across the autobahn.[/QUOTE]Forgot, if you go to detailed searches on [URL]www.bvg.de[/URL] website you can force eg only bus solutions. There are english pages. So from Bahnhoff Zoo, the X10 & 104 combination gets you to Westkreuz in 24 min-maybe 10 min more than normal S Bahn, and actually easier when you factor in all the ups and downs to and from S Bahn platforms at both ends. So not a train smash (ha ha). BVG (Berlin Transportation Company) website is the mongers' mate.
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Wednesday
I arrived at 5 pm and had my mind set on starting out with a session, but wanted to make a careful decision. The place did seem emptier than at my previous visits but it soon filled up. Standing in the staircase a real looker arrived and went by me, a colored girl with the prettiest face. I felt an instant attraction and went after her into the bar even though if felt kind of silly to follow her like that. She went right in to speak with some other guy and I had to place myself in a strategic spot to catch her if she would move on. But then of course some other girl sat down in my lap just as she were about to make a move. A few minutes later I got my chance and signaled that I wanted to talk. Somewhat embarrassing to walk upstairs, passing the other girl who I'd just rejected with the excuse that I wanted to relax some more. But I guess they are somewhat used to that anyway.
The girl I went with is called Gina if I remember correctly and is from Namibia. Upon entering the room she explained the price structures. She made it clear that thirty minutes means less effort from her and that one hour would enable her to do more for me. I was glad to choose one hour with her as I felt she was the most beautiful lady I had ever had the opportunity to be intimate with. To me her face is magnificent with such beautiful eyes, she has got a big and firm ass and large soft, natural tits. Close to the perfect lady for me looks-wise. I enjoyed licking her for a while before moving on to a very good blowjob with her standing on all fours showing off her nice ass in the mirror. It was a heavenly feeling to do her from behind caressing her tits. The last part of the session was spent talking and cuddling. She's a quite sweet girl as well. Really recommendable and I was tempted at repeating with her later in the evening.
Next up for me was Kimi from Bahamas, I wasn't hard to persuade when I saw her appetizing little body. After she confirmed she'd do DFK we went upstairs. She is very feminine and petite and has got a nice smile. I spent some time enjoying myself squeezing her buttocks and kissing her body from head to toe. Kimi was receptive and accepted a good pounding in doggy-style without any complaints. Decent DFK in missionary style lead to a good finish to our time together. Very sweet and easy going girl, high repeat factor.
After this I had some trouble finding anyone I fancied. Except for a couple of girls who were occupied in conversation within groups of girls. Quite silly really but I feel awkward / shy breaking up a group of maybe four girls to pick out one of them to direct my interest to. So I went to the buffet and had a meal, where I saw a nice looking blonde girl with big well shaped breasts. Right after that she was sitting by herself in the bar so I went with her. Can't for the life of me remember her name but she told me it was her first day and that she is from Barcelona which I believed since she speaks perfect Spanish. This girl gave me the best blowjob I've received in Artemis, kind of submissive with stroking on the lips and cheeks.
There was a very thin and petite red-haired girl that I had seen earlier in the evening. Since it's nice with a bit of variation I decided to go with her. She is called Brianna and claimed to be from Spain which might not be true given her sparse Spanish skills but that didn't bother me. Brianna was very keen on trying to sell me some CIM, I think she asked for it five or six times despite me having ruled it out completely. For some reason I didn't mind it so much since she was kind of funny and took the rejections in good spirit. The up-side with this girl is that she's very tight all over. Very nice to grab hold of her waist and touch that little ass, suck her tiny tits and so on.
My only really disappointing session of the evening came with a heavy-set brunette, Hungarian Nicole. Lots of up-sell in a less charming way than from the aforementioned Brianna. I thought I would enjoy playing with her beautiful big round tits. However, as soon as I tried to kiss them or touch them she would move around with them constantly to interfere. After a few minutes of missionary where she also kind of interfered, I got soft and gave up. She spent the rest of the time doing some monologue, going on about her theories on why it hadn't worked out.
As it was getting late I was pondering the possibility of trying for a long relaxing finish to the night with someone nice. But as I was leaving the downstairs floor I met Slovakian Erica who convinced me to a short session in a room in the kino. Erica has got dark hair of medium length and big implants, quite sexy and naughty looking. I got a bit distracted at first from all the noise in the kino but after venturing down to taste her pussy it got better and she was a good fuck, seemed really into it. I might have liked her even better if we'd gone upstairs in the more relaxed environment.
With the clock close to 4 am I picked Romanian Silvia, black hair, cute eyes, and went with her for an hour. I guess she must have been quite tired but she made a good effort anyway. Good firm blowjob and prolonged pounding of her thin body. I wanted to make the most of the last session of the night so I was quite wild with her and she didn't protest which I thought was commendable that late at night.
At 5 am I found myself at a desolate Westkreuz S-bahn station with the strike in full force as discussed below. Too bad I hadn't checked the forum during the night.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1641352]Train drivers are on strike in Germany, strike will last from Thursday morning 'til Monday morning. Due to strike, there will be no S-Bahn service available at Westkreuz resp. Halensee station during this period.[/QUOTE]Some good news. Trains drivers will be back to work earlier than announced: Saturday afternoon 6 pm. Maybe it will take some time 'til all S-Bahn trains run as scheduled.
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[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;1642058]..... a heavy-set brunette, Hungarian Nicole. Lots of up-sell in a less charming way....[/QUOTE]Sounds a lot like Cz Nicole.
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[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;1642058]
The girl I went with is called Gina if I remember correctly and is from Namibia. Upon entering the room she explained the price structures. She made it clear that thirty minutes means less effort from her and that one hour would enable her to do more for me. [/QUOTE]Hmm. Sounds like a questionable business practice from this girl. In effect she's saying "You extend to at least an hour, or suffer less effort from me. Do you want to risk wasting 60 Eur on a shitty session or pay 120 with a chance that I provide good service".
Of course, Gina is not the only girl trying such a tactic, but it's unusual to be so upfront / honest about it.
Does anybody know if it is possible to cancel a session at this point, before anything has happened, but after you've gone up to the rooms? If it is not possible to cancel, without paying, Gina (and others, with the same extortionist tactics) should be booted from the club. My 5 cents, at least.
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[QUOTE=Ravein2;1642115]Hmm. Sounds like a questionable business practice from this girl. In effect she's saying "You extend to at least an hour, or suffer less effort from me. Do you want to risk wasting 60 Eur on a shitty session or pay 120 with a chance that I provide good service".
Of course, Gina is not the only girl trying such a tactic, but it's unusual to be so upfront / honest about it.[/QUOTE]It was not all that clear really. She said that half an hour means a really professional attitude giving me a kind of sad look to let me know what she meant. It is clever to use a wording that can be interpreted two ways like that. She also explained that kissing could be included for sixty minutes. I know several girls who seem to have that policy. I feel it might be harsh to give Gina too much criticism as she gave me excellent service and the best time I've had in Artemis. And I am sure she would have been good in the half hour option as well. Your question is of course valid though.
Frozty: Yes could be. I had talked with Nicole on my last visit. So she asked me if I remembered her name and origin. I went with Hungary and possibly she just did not bother to correct me.
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Getting out of the trap
[QUOTE=Ravein2;1642115]Hmm. Sounds like a questionable business practice from this girl. In effect she's saying "You extend to at least an hour, or suffer less effort from me. Do you want to risk wasting 60 Eur on a shitty session or pay 120 with a chance that I provide good service".
Of course, Gina is not the only girl trying such a tactic, but it's unusual to be so upfront / honest about it.
Does anybody know if it is possible to cancel a session at this point, before anything has happened, but after you've gone up to the rooms? If it is not possible to cancel, without paying, Gina (and others, with the same extortionist tactics) should be booted from the club. My 5 cents, at least.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with Ravein2 on this point. It is common for many girls to provide a better service for longer bookings such as 60 minutes and / or for guest who are booking them more often. However being so upfront about it implies the basic service will be crap which is a very bad sign and we should better not support such a bad practice.
By the way Ibrahimovic that you so much for that report. You got all the names and I can really gain so much from such reports.
Responding to Ravein2's question about how can we leave the trap before there is no turning back: I once went to the room with someone who is among the most attractive women at Artemis and the first time I had a very good time with her and since she had always greeted me in a nice way since then I went with her for a second time. In addition, I knew she is a little bit moody and normally I can handle such a woman. But this evening, there was something like a bad vibe on her. She started to ask me things about a friend of mine in a way that seemed unfitting. When we got into room she immediately started to give me commands which is something I don't react well to.
She had not even touched me and it was like in the first two minutes before I actually got into the bed I said:
'I don't know why but you seem to be in a very bad mood and I think we should do this another time. '.
'Now or never!' She replied.
I opened the door and we went downstairs without passing the cash boxes and even though it was the very first time I pulled something like that I am sure I was correct since she had'nt even touched me and no one speaks to me in such a tone as she did that evening no matter how gorgeous she is.
I don't know if that little story from my Artemis memories is helpful, but I think responding to Ravein2's question 'I saw it coming but still got out in time'.
Regards.
Diplomat.
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The Ejection Seat
[QUOTE=Ravein2;1642115]Does anybody know if it is possible to cancel a session at this point, before anything has happened, but after you've gone up to the rooms? [/QUOTE]First. Our hero said he had a very pleasant session with Gina even with the upselling. Worth recalling before getting into a twist.
On the bail out bit. In theory yes, you can stop things even in the room. But it will be a grey area and you need to do so before any touching starts. The best way is just explain, very politely to the girl, you have changed your mind, it won't work etc. That if things go on it will be awkward and unpleasant for both, it's no one's fault just the way it goes sometimes, etc. She might simply not press it, and you both just walk out, end of story, and easiest all around. If she throws a fit, you can say, you are leaving and if she wants, you can go together and explain to the front desk what just happened. If you have not crossed any lines, that alone might be enough to just end things amicably.
The last thing a girl wants is to raise a red flag with management. In some cases, you might have to make good on the threat and go with her to the desk, explain what happened. Then it becomes her word against yours. Normally. As long as again nothing sexual or even kissing has started, they will take your side. You just have to keep cool and calm and polite. She may argue and then it will just depend upon whom they believe, and possibly in some worst case, you might have to pay some fraction, especially if this abort decision does not occur within 1-2 minutes. But, normally just the threat of all this is enough to prevent it from needing to be done. The girls loses a little face and perhaps pride, and 5-10 minutes of her time but not a lot more, so her cutting her losses is the rational, simple thing to do. Ah yes, saying those 2 words in the same sentence with word girl is always a leap of faith.....
The obvious point is not to get in the situation in the first place. Hence the age old advice, with someone you don't know and with whom you may have some doubts, (at the risk of killing a little of the excitement and sexual energy), talk about what you both expect before heading up. RB's experience is this can be done in a playful, sexy way that can even enhance things if you are on your game. Or if not, it kills a buzz well worth killing before things get messy upstairs.
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Every day is Halloween.
[QUOTE=Frozty;1642114]Sounds a lot like Cz Nicole.[/QUOTE]But if heavy set, most likely Nicky (HU). Have never been, never would. RB way too scared. Too close to Jabba the Hut.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1642390]But if heavy set, most likely Nicky (HU). Have never been, never would. RB way too scared. Too close to Jabba the Hut.[/QUOTE]Hah! Ok, I might be doing Cz Nicole a disservice. She has put on a few kilos, and still upsells like a Marrakech souk vendor, but she's far from Jabba sized.
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Nicky (HU)
I think "Jabba" is an exaggeration, she's certainly full-figured but not what I would call obese. But then again, I'm American, where a lot of our women tend to carry more weight than in Europe. Much to my chagrin, because I prefer at most a curvy woman but not a BBW-type figure typically.
Anyway, I went with Nicky a few times (the first time I was inexperienced and she got to me first, the others after because I ended up enjoying her company in a friendly way). She certainly knows how to up-sell in the room, and took me for quite a sum the first session we had, which again I can't fault her for, as let's remember the woman are here after all to earn a living! I never found her to be pushy about it, in the sense of threatening bad service or anything like that, I just got wrapped up in the moment and kept saying yes to everything.
The last night I was at Artemis, I saw her downstairs and we had spoken previously in the evening about going to the room together, I confessed I was feeling rather tapped out after my other sessions and a bit tired in general. She was very gracious and didn't push us going to the room at all, just gave me a hug and wished me safe travels as I was leaving town the next day.
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[B]Thursday 6th November[/B]
Thanks to this thread I knew the trains were off so I took a taxi to the A.
I arrived at the a just after 15.00, it was pretty cold so there would be no outdoor fun happening. I did a few circuits but didn't recognise anyone apart from Irish. I refused her advances and went for a sauna and shower.
I was drying off when I saw Avril, one of my favourite girls, walking towards me with a giant grin on her face. We had a little kiss and catch up then headed to the bar for a hot drink and a smoke. She has a great memory and was able to chat away about the things we had discussed the last time we were together, many months earlier. We quickly headed upstairs.
[B]Avril from Romania [/B]
I was very pleased to see she had put on the weight she lost earlier in the year. And her tits are back to their awesome former size. I've been with Avril many times in the past and this session was one of the best ones. Nice slow pace to start but soon hotting up and ending in Avril soaking me, herself and the bed by squirting everywhere. Incredible.
10/10.
I would have liked to go a second time with Avril but wasn't able to manage it. So I suggested we meet again later and we went our separate ways.
I hung out in the bar for a while and recognised a few more faces; Gia, Iris and Jamie. I knocked back a few advances then spotted one of my favourite girls coming down the stairs; Alishia. A quick chat then upstairs.
[B]Alisha from Hungary[/B]
She was wearing a little red and black negligee around her middle that made her look even hotter than usual. This is another girl I've been with many times in the past. She's my go-to girl for anal sex at the A. I can't get enough of her perfect little bum.
This was a top class session from a real pro. Her face and body are my idea of perfect.
9/10.
The club was much busier now. It was almost 19.00 and there was a steady stream of couples up and down the stairs. I had a massage and tried to decide on my next girl. I looked for Avril but couldn't find her so I went looking for a new girl. I spoke to a few but none really clicked. I spotted a beautiful looking girl who reminded me a lot of the porn star Angel Dark. I approached her in the bar and had a really nice chat with her. After the usual formalities we went upstairs.
[B]Alana from Germany[/B]
This was a superb session. Alana has a real natural look, minimal make up and wavey hair held in a loose band. After a really hot session I finished on her face. The site of her on her knees looking up at me while she jerked me off onto her beautiful face will stay in my memory for a long time.
(I've searched the thread and I can't find any mention of Alana but I'm pretty sure that's her name).
Definite repeat. 9/10.
Club was nicely busy now but I think the train strike might have reduced the numbers a bit. There never seemed to be a wait for a room even after 21.00. There seemed to be a lot of new girls and some notable absence were Nina, Jenna, Amalia and Fatima.
I had a great day but the lack of an outdoor area was a real pity. It's become a great feature since it opened. I might keep my visits for the times when the weather permits outdoor action. Three wonderful sessions with three very different women. Awesome.
Thanks for reading.
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Why not go on the Bus 104?
Fatima was there on Thursday.
[QUOTE=Galazy2;1642680][B]Thursday 6th November[/B]
Thanks to this thread I knew the trains were off so I took a taxi to the A.
Club was nicely busy now but I think the train strike might have reduced the numbers a bit. There never seemed to be a wait for a room even after 21.00. There seemed to be a lot of new girls and some notable absence were Nina, Jenna, Amalia and Fatima.
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[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;1624732]After exploring the facilities I entered the bar and felt a little bit overwhelmed and awkward in the crowded room so I halted just inside the doors. I started eying a very voluptuous ebony girl called Vanity from Barbados with kind of yellowish blonde hair. Since I didn't know what else to do with myself I approached her and we went upstairs right away. Vanity has a really wild body, very thin waist, a firm ass and huge tits that have a very natural feel to them. I felt quite comfortable with her and we started with kissing and then went on to BBBJ which was good. It was a heavenly experience to do her from behind caressing her bosom. Looks / body: 9. Service 7. 5.
She was probably the girl I came across in Artemis that spoke the best English (which of course is natural considering her origin) making the conversation feel a little bit more vivid. Going downstairs I was so satisfied I totally forgot it was time to pay and had my mind set on taking a shower when she asked where I had my things. That could have gotten embarrassing but I don't think she noticed my absent mind.[/QUOTE]Vanity is still at Artemis, she told me that she has been there 4 months now. One additional feature is that she is tiny at just over five feet tall. Kissing is variable as she didn't kiss me but as her head was hardly ever level with mine, this didn't really affect things. Another feature is that she has the tightest pussy ever and if you are larger than average she may refuse to fuck you. I just managed to squeeze in! Her tits have a natural feel because they are natural and probably the biggest natural pair at A at the moment. She has a fantasy figure as her ass is small, pert and firm. She is only 22.
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Champagne deal
I have been to this club a few times now and noticed that some guys buy champagne. When they do, they are inevitably surrounded by at least two and sometimes three girls who laugh loudly at all the guy's jokes and play with him a bit. Yesterday there were two guys in this situation. One had three girls but one left after about an hour, there didn't seem to be any form of payment. Then, over the next few hours, the other two girls rotated with some other girls so that he always had someone with him, but eventually he had two steady ones, one of whom (who had been with him at the start) was fondling him under his robe while he chatted. The second girl then left and he went off with the fondler. He must have been with them for at least three hours before going. What are the terms of this service? Is he paying just for the champagne or is there extra for the company as well? As I noticed, some girls seemed to come and go without payment but I did not see what happened right at the end.
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1642755]Why not go on the Bus 104?
Fatima was there on Thursday.[/QUOTE]I'm not familiar with the bus system and a taxi only cost me 7 quid each way. I couldn't see Fatima and I was sure one of the other girls (Avril maybe) told me she was not there.
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1642846]I'm not familiar with the bus system and a taxi only cost me 7 quid each way. I couldn't see Fatima and I was sure one of the other girls (Avril maybe) told me she was not there.[/QUOTE]You are right that the bus route takes a little working out. The 104 is the only daytime route to A (there is a night bus too, running on most of the same route but less frequently) and this can be picked up at various places but convenient ones are Fehrbelliner Platz (U7/ U3) or Theodore-Heuss-Platz (U2 - but there is work on the U2 line at the moment so this is less convenient). I found it best to pick up the bus at Fehrbelliner Platz, then get off at A (some girls got off the bus too), then pick up the bus from A in the same direction, to avoid crossing the road, and get on the U2 to go home. Of course when there is no strike then there is no need for this and, as you say, taxis are cheap too.
Fatima is elusive as she spends a lot of time in the room. She gets pre-booked by guys who ring up the club and make appointments with her.
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1642868]
Fatima is elusive as she spends a lot of time in the room. She gets pre-booked by guys who ring up the club and make appointments with her.[/QUOTE]Oh, that's interesting. I've often rang the club to see if a certain girl is working that day but I didn't know you could book time with a girl.
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New girls
Out of interest is there a minimum entrance age for girls at artemis. I heard for eg palace is 21 but at oase the door is open to all girls. Can anyone give an estimate percentage wise the number of girls in artemis up to the age of 22 from total of girls there.
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1643022]Oh, that's interesting. I've often rang the club to see if a certain girl is working that day but I didn't know you could book time with a girl.[/QUOTE]Of cause you can book at girl, but there is no guaranty she would wait for you if you are not a Stamgast.
She is free to go with other mongers if she wishes.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1643084]Out of interest is there a minimum entrance age for girls at Artemis. I heard for eg palace is 21 but at Oase the door is open to all girls. Can anyone give an estimate percentage wise the number of girls in artemis up to the age of 22 from total of girls there.[/QUOTE]Why? Is it important to you how young they are?
21-24 same same!
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1643084]Can anyone give an estimate percentage wise the number of girls in artemis up to the age of 22 from total of girls there.[/QUOTE]According to Artemis reception it fluctuates between 0 and 100%.
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1642788]I have been to this club a few times now and noticed that some guys buy champagne. When they do, they are inevitably surrounded by at least two and sometimes three girls who laugh loudly at all the guy's jokes and play with him a bit ... What are the terms of this service? [/QUOTE]I'd be interested in same. Maybe it was "a Stammgast"? In that case, it would make prefect sense. Do girls get a commission, if they get you to buy a bottle of champagne?
Ray
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Artemis reception
Must have incredible data collection tools at their disposable. The reason I asked is because the general consensus seems to indicate older girls at artemis than many frankfurt clubs but on reflection I have been with quite a few lovelies between 18-22 at artemis when I look back. Just wondering if the in flux of new girls reported at artemis fall into this category ahead of my Berlin binge 15/12-22/12.
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1643022]Oh, that's interesting. I've often rang the club to see if a certain girl is working that day but I didn't know you could book time with a girl.[/QUOTE]I've never had a problem seeing Fatima. If you can arrive early, you will get your chance. She is usually there from 1 pm and does not stay late.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1643232]Must have incredible data collection tools at their disposable. The reason I asked is because the general consensus seems to indicate older girls at artemis than many frankfurt clubs but on reflection I have been with quite a few lovelies between 18-22 at artemis when I look back. Just wondering if the in flux of new girls reported at artemis fall into this category ahead of my Berlin binge 15/12-22/12.[/QUOTE]There are girl-types for everyone at Artemis, not true that there are more older women.
If you are in Berlin, Artemis is must see must do, so no matter what you are going to visit Artemis anyway, so go see for yourself.
I might give you a head up, when I'm at Artemis in Dec.
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Locker Size
Apologies for a basic (but important for planning) question. I am hoping to squash a soft 55 cmx40 x23 flight bag (cabin baggage) into a locker at Artemis, but from what I remember the lockers will be too small. Any one know if it will fit in?
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1643473]Apologies for a basic (but important for planning) question. I am hoping to squash a soft 55 cmx40 x23 flight bag (cabin baggage) into a locker at Artemis, but from what I remember the lockers will be too small. Any one know if it will fit in?[/QUOTE]Most of the lockers will be too small. However, there are larger lockers at the end of each row, which might be ok.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1643473]Apologies for a basic (but important for planning) question. I am hoping to squash a soft 55 cmx40 x23 flight bag (cabin baggage) into a locker at Artemis, but from what I remember the lockers will be too small. Any one know if it will fit in?[/QUOTE]You can leave your bag in a room just beside the reception. You won't have a personal key but the room is controlled by staff. Left my trolleys and bags there many many times, wo problems. In the same room you can plug in your mobile in case battery is low, just ask politely.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Schonefeld
Can anyone give me a guide to taxi price from artemis to Berlin schonefeld airport? My flight out is quite late so hoping to open artemis and have a wonderful afternoon before my flight. Thanks sv.
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Just google'd this.
[URL]http://www.taxi-in-berlin.de/taxitarif/taxi-tarifrechner/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1644653]Can anyone give me a guide to taxi price from artemis to Berlin schonefeld airport? My flight out is quite late so hoping to open artemis and have a wonderful afternoon before my flight. Thanks sv.[/QUOTE]To Berlin Savigny platz it is 40 Euro.
From Berlin Savigny platz to Artemis is about 10 Euro.
So I would say around 50 Euro from Artemis to Schonenfeld airport.
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Fatima
[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1642868]Fatima is elusive as she spends a lot of time in the room. She gets pre-booked by guys who ring up the club and make appointments with her.[/QUOTE]I do not think the clients are ringing the club management to make the bookings with Fatima. It is more like the clients have Fatima's digits and ring her to make the appointments personally. I doubt Artemis management have the inclination to run a booking system for their girls that work on an independent contractor basis.
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Commission on champagne sales
[QUOTE=RayReddington;1643229]Do girls get a commission, if they get you to buy a bottle of champagne?[/QUOTE]The girls that are linked to the sale of the champagne will receive a commission from the club for "selling" the bottle to the client guest. So maybe one girls gets the commission or maybe the commission was shared between the girls.
Whatever is the case, it is good form for the girls to stay with the guest and entertain him since the commission on the bottle pays for the girls' time to sit with him and chat. Maybe even the girl gets a fuck session from the guest as well by sitting there with him too.
All good.
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3-day Sexcation
Report 2 weeks late. This is my 2nd visit ever to Artemis, last visit 1 yr ago. Read lot of reports that food not good, so I avoided it the first time around. This year I ate there. Food tasted good enough for me. Really hit the spot after a good session.
Read reports about women who become cold, change attitude behind closed doors or demand a tip. I seemed to have avoided that pitfall. Although I do want to tip them, I resist the urge, so as to not ruin it for the locals.
Other reports claim female selection is not good or place has become worse. I saw plenty of beautiful women. Of course there are some I would pass on, but I had plenty to choose from. Here is a brief report on the encounters over a 3-day sexcation:
Nadia (Ger): Blonde, long hair, wing tattoo from shoulder to ass. Late 20's. First offered threesome, but I just arrived from US so I didn't think I could manage that. 30 min plus CIM. Looks 8+. Great body.
Madeline (Ger): Blonde, mid 20's. Very pretty. No DFK. She was nice, but no GF vibe. BJ was lacking. She alternates from hand to mouth, with hand 70%, mouth 30%. Couldn't CIM with that style. But she was so damn pretty I would try again.
Clara (Rom); Blonde, hot, hot body. Pretty face. Tattoo of names on foot (Darios, Marios). She seemed a little off (like coming off a high). Bit dazed. No major highlights, just 30 min session. Good time.
Essera (Turk): Long black hair, light skin, small breasts and kinda of a big nose. Slightly big. Normally she wasn't my type but for some reason I asked her to a room. Her personality was amazing. Funny, friendly, frisky. In real world, she would just be a friend with benefits. 30 min, CIM.
Honey (Ger): Long black hair, great body, maybe early 30's. Has some tattoo writing on her left side. With her I went with anal. I couldn't complain. Had fun.
Gabby (Hung). Brown hair, light skin, great lips. Early 20's. She was by far the most gorgeous woman. I don't know if this is her thing but she wears knee high blk stockings. I really didn't want that session to end. Normally this is just a sex thing. With her it nearly crossed that line.
Gia (Moldv): I'm pretty she said Gia. She was the porn exp. For some reason I'm hesitant to ask for DATY, but she just offered it up for me. So we 69'd for a while. Great BJ. I didn't do this, but I'm sure she'd be ok with grabbing her hair while you call her dirty names. Didn't have enough for CIM, so just 30 min. She definitely makes you feel that you are the best she's ever had. If only I had more cash. Regrets.
Till next year.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1644653]Can anyone give me a guide to taxi price from artemis to Berlin schonefeld airport? My flight out is quite late so hoping to open artemis and have a wonderful afternoon before my flight. Thanks sv.[/QUOTE]40/50 euro is the normal price at night / early morning.
Kimino.
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Crowded Friday
Don't know what kind of event was taking place in these days in Berlin, heard something regarding a Boxing match or something, anyways the place was packed yesterday. Ifa style. Was told over 120 girls present and same happened Thursday, but I wasn't there.
Nice vibe, I usually prefer slower days but sometimes I do like when the club gets crazy. Was not the right day to try new girls so I ended up having fun with some of my favorites. Iran / german girl I never remember the name, Elena (BG), Esther (CZ), Sissy (BG), Viola (RUS).
Nice meeting up with Shan Khan, pity we didn't have more time to chat, but, it was a busy day for everybody LOL.
Kimino.
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Planes, Trains, & Automobiles
[QUOTE=Kimino;1644796]40/50 euro is the normal price at night / early morning.Kimino.[/QUOTE]True enough. However. If you leave say 1530-1930, the Ring Autobahn can be a nightmare. The worst period 16-1900 but it can stretch out and all it takes is a little rain, a little fog, one little accident. It is a little better on the weekends but still heavy. So, seeing as the S-Bahn is a whopping 5 minutes walk to Westkreuz and the ABC zone fare is 3.60 vs 50 for a taxi, a little planning via the BVG dot de website can save a lot of stress, time, money, and CO2 emissions.
There are different ways to do it, depending upon the time, but public transit takes 50-55 min vs 30+ with a taxi, if no traffic. If you have a lot of baggage and/or leave later when frequency of trains drops a little, the taxi becomes more attractive. But if you are traveling light and can time it so you have to change trains only 1 time, you can get there within 15 min of a realistic taxi drive and almost cover a 30 min session at the old Fick Fabrik with the fare savings.
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1644683]The girls that are linked to the sale of the champagne will receive a commission from the club for "selling" the bottle to the client guest. So maybe one girls gets the commission or maybe the commission was shared between the girls.
Whatever is the case, it is good form for the girls to stay with the guest and entertain him since the commission on the bottle pays for the girls' time to sit with him and chat. Maybe even the girl gets a fuck session from the guest as well by sitting there with him too.
All good.[/QUOTE]The girls are no longer getting a commission for the champagne bottles since a few weeks ago. In the past the commission paid wasn't much and it even became even less attractive when more than one girl was entertaining the guest since the amount was divided among the girls. Obviously for the girls the best thing is to be paid for their time as you would have to pay them for going to the room even if there is no sexual activity. I am sure there are exceptions for guest who are able and willing to book the girls for a long time, booking extras, giving a big tip and such. Which means no girl who is at least a little professional will just sit there to be polite for more than a few minutes.
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[QUOTE=ChuckZ;1644684]Report 2 weeks late. This is my 2nd visit ever to Artemis, last visit 1 yr ago. Read lot of reports that food not good, so I avoided it the first time around. This year I ate there. Food tasted good enough for me. Really hit the spot after a good session.
Read reports about women who become cold, change attitude behind closed doors or demand a tip. I seemed to have avoided that pitfall. Although I do want to tip them, I resist the urge, so as to not ruin it for the locals.
Other reports claim female selection is not good or place has become worse. I saw plenty of beautiful women. Of course there are some I would pass on, but I had plenty to choose from. Here is a brief report on the encounters over a 3-day sexcation:
Nadia (Ger): Blonde, long hair, wing tattoo from shoulder to ass. Late 20's. First offered threesome, but I just arrived from US so I didn't think I could manage that. 30 min plus CIM. Looks 8+. Great body.
Madeline (Ger): Blonde, mid 20's. Very pretty. No DFK. She was nice, but no GF vibe. BJ was lacking. She alternates from hand to mouth, with hand 70%, mouth 30%. Couldn't CIM with that style. But she was so damn pretty I would try again.
Clara (Rom); Blonde, hot, hot body. Pretty face. Tattoo of names on foot (Darios, Marios). She seemed a little off (like coming off a high). Bit dazed. No major highlights, just 30 min session. Good time.
Essera (Turk): Long black hair, light skin, small breasts and kinda of a big nose. Slightly big. Normally she wasn't my type but for some reason I asked her to a room. Her personality was amazing. Funny, friendly, frisky. In real world, she would just be a friend with benefits. 30 min, CIM.
Honey (Ger): Long black hair, great body, maybe early 30's. Has some tattoo writing on her left side. With her I went with anal. I couldn't complain. Had fun.
Gabby (Hung). Brown hair, light skin, great lips. Early 20's. She was by far the most gorgeous woman. I don't know if this is her thing but she wears knee high blk stockings. I really didn't want that session to end. Normally this is just a sex thing. With her it nearly crossed that line.
Gia (Moldv): I'm pretty she said Gia. She was the porn exp. For some reason I'm hesitant to ask for DATY, but she just offered it up for me. So we 69'd for a while. Great BJ. I didn't do this, but I'm sure she'd be ok with grabbing her hair while you call her dirty names. Didn't have enough for CIM, so just 30 min. She definitely makes you feel that you are the best she's ever had. If only I had more cash. Regrets.
Till next year.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much ChuckZ for your report. Really useful since you got all the names and descriptions. I like Clara a lot but I guess her performance may vary. I had a great, passionate GFE session with DFK and everything I could wish for back then, despite the fact it was early morning and she seemed tired when I too her upstairs. Nadja / Nadia BTW is in her mid-twenties and she too is one of my favorites. May I ask you to give a few more details about the experience and her service? To me she is among the most gorgeous women at Arte and she is both quite professional and she can seem cold a little distant to some.
Thank you and a great weekend to you all.
Diplomat.
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Bambi Does Berlin
Seems the recent unusual crowding at A likely due to the BAMBI overflow. [URL]http://www.bambi.de/[/URL] the past few days. Lots of celebs, U2 (Boner again) and and and.
Not to be confused with the award winning film [URL]http://vimeo.com/m/9230887[/URL]
Things will be back to normal soon.
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Artemis still crowded tonight (Sat)
It's still crowded tonight. The downstairs bar was empty except for us sleepyheads all day but has now picked up with guys watching the Pulver vs Klitschko fight. Upstairs has been pretty full all day. Sessioned with German Xenia (won't repeat) and Turkish teeny Simi (a real sweetie). Full report later as usual.
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Pack in Haste
Don't you just hate it when your mind is befuddled and on all things FKK and then you forget to secure your luggage properly as you "take off" for Disneyland??
Note to Rocketboy0: Best check the Big "A"'s piddling pool for unidentified flying objects.
"The U2 singer also expressed concern for the cows who might have been hit by the falling rear hatch and luggage.
U2 frontman Bono has spoken out following an incident on Wednesday in which the rear hatch of his private jet fall off mid-flight to Berlin.
Talking to reporters on the red carpet for an awards ceremony in the German capital, Bono described the event as a "bit scary, really," although he added that he and his four fellow passengers were fine.
"We were about 25 minutes from the airport, and there was a bang. And we thought we'd hit turbulence or maybe the landing gear was coming down," he said, according to NBC News. "The real relief was that the particular design meant that the plane didn't decompress. ".
The singer also voiced concern for anything that might have been hit by the falling door or luggage. ".
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1644924]Seems the recent unusual crowding at A likely due to the BAMBI overflow. [URL]http://www.bambi.de/[/URL] the past few days. Lots of celebs, U2 (Boner again) and and and.
Not to be confused with the award winning film [URL]http://vimeo.com/m/9230887[/URL]
Things will be back to normal soon.[/QUOTE]
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Plotting a Hatch
[QUOTE=Excess;1645158]Bono has spoken out following an incident on Wednesday in which the rear hatch of his private jet fall off mid-flight to Berlin.[/QUOTE]Excess-thanks for the heads up on this breaking news and glad no one was hurt. I was actually recently in the heated outdoor pool-still swimmable (barely) in our 5C evenings. Nothing unusual seen on the bottom.
You know the last thing we need right now, being toe to toe with the Russkies and all, would be another U2 crash. At least we finally know what Bono was looking for, even if he still hasn't found it.
Rear hatches do get lost from time to time, but mostly inside the Bahnhoff, and it costs 100 Eur.
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Logistics
Thanks for the tips. My flight departs 2040 schonefeld. My idea was to visit artemis 11 am till 5 pm. If I left at 5 that would give me an hour to get to the airport at 6 ish as I like to give plenty of time. This is a Monday 22/12. However I will now look at public transport as well. Generally will an hour be enough from artemis to airport?
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1645343]Thanks for the tips. My flight departs 2040 schonefeld. My idea was to visit artemis 11 am till 5 pm. If I left at 5 that would give me an hour to get to the airport at 6 ish as I like to give plenty of time. This is a Monday 22/12. However I will now look at public transport as well. Generally will an hour be enough from artemis to airport?[/QUOTE]If you are going to use the sbahn use [URL]http://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/en/route-information[/URL] to check your route.
In general it takes less than an hour from artemis to schonefeld.
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Thanks didi
I was thinking more along the lines is an hour enough by taxi or in this case over an hour even. It is fine for me to pay the extra to go door to door as they say as giving myself time is paramount here.
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Any choices in Berlin?
I've been to Artemis twice before and really like the club, though the prices are higher than the clubs in Frankfurt. I am sure I read somewhere on the forum about 6 months ago that another FKK club was opening in Berlin and there were comments about it being good that Artemis would have competition. I'm in Berlin for 2 nights in a couple of weeks time and wondered if the second FKK club has appeared / opened yet, and if so, what it's name and location are and if anyone on here has experience of it? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1645581]I've been to Artemis twice before and really like the club, though the prices are higher than the clubs in Frankfurt. I am sure I read somewhere on the forum about 6 months ago that another FKK club was opening in Berlin and there were comments about it being good that Artemis would have competition. I'm in Berlin for 2 nights in a couple of weeks time and wondered if the second FKK club has appeared / opened yet, and if so, what it's name and location are and if anyone on here has experience of it? Thanks.[/QUOTE]This club.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9QcGKtqM-w[/URL]
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Location Location Location
[QUOTE=Samplerr;1645620]This club.[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9QcGKtqM-w[/URL][/QUOTE]That club-is only 508 KM from Berlin, between Essen and Dortmond, or only a 5 hour or so drive away, depending upon traffic. Luckily our questioner has planned a 2 day trip to Berlin, so with enough Red Bull, this is doable....However, I would advise against it.
The Grand Plaza, possibly under way in Postdam, is at the moment a conceptual work, discussed on this very forum all the way back on 19 Oct.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1645635]That club-is only 508 KM from Berlin, between Essen and Dortmond, or only a 5 hour or so drive away, depending upon traffic. Luckily our questioner has planned a 2 day trip to Berlin, so with enough Red Bull, this is doable....However, I would advise against it.
The Grand Plaza, possibly under way in Postdam, is at the moment a conceptual work, discussed on this very forum all the way back on 19 Oct.[/QUOTE]Yep, then there's the grand-[URL]palais.com[/URL] site. Same video, linking to great-[URL]palace.com[/URL].
My take is that they originally wanted to build it in Potsdam and then decided to move it elsewhere.
But maybe I'm misunderstanding and the Potsdam FKK is not called Grand Palais / Grand Palace.
Boh.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1645646]But maybe I'm misunderstanding and the Potsdam FKK is not called Grand Palais / Grand Palace-Kimino.[/QUOTE]You have misunderstood correctly. The putative possible Potsdam poon place is not the Grand Palace but rather (allegedly) the Grand Plaza.
The lead investor is the Nyet Group, a combination of Nessie (as in Loch Ness) and Yeti (as in the fuzzy dude from the Himalayas). Mythical, rarely seen, hard to find.
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[URL]http://www.fkk-berlin.com/inserat_825_fkk_grand_plaza_potsdam.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1645674]You have misunderstood correctly. The putative possible Potsdam poon place is not the Grand Palace but rather (allegedly) the Grand Plaza.
The lead investor is the Nyet Group, a combination of Nessie (as in Loch Ness) and Yeti (as in the fuzzy dude from the Himalayas). Mythical, rarely seen, hard to find.[/QUOTE]
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Long alternative
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1645635]That club-is only 508 KM from Berlin, between Essen and Dortmond, or only a 5 hour or so drive away, depending upon traffic. Luckily our questioner has planned a 2 day trip to Berlin, so with enough Red Bull, this is doable....However, I would advise against it.
The Grand Plaza, possibly under way in Postdam, is at the moment a conceptual work, discussed on this very forum all the way back on 19 Oct.[/QUOTE]LOL!! Loved the answer. Sadly that's a no then. Artemis for 2 days is of course no disaster. Just worried that the reference to the red bull means Rocketboy has spoken to the ladies I sessions with previously who reported on my obvious need for stamina!
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1644681]I do not think the clients are ringing the club management to make the bookings with Fatima. It is more like the clients have Fatima's digits and ring her to make the appointments personally. I doubt Artemis management have the inclination to run a booking system for their girls that work on an independent contractor basis.[/QUOTE]Fatima is very pleased if clients would call the front desk to make appointments with her. You need to ask if she will be in that day and, if she is going to be at the club, then you can make an appointment. She encourages this.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1644845]The girls are no longer getting a commission for the champagne bottles since a few weeks ago. In the past the commission paid wasn't much and it even became even less attractive when more than one girl was entertaining the guest since the amount was divided among the girls. Obviously for the girls the best thing is to be paid for their time as you would have to pay them for going to the room even if there is no sexual activity. I am sure there are exceptions for guest who are able and willing to book the girls for a long time, booking extras, giving a big tip and such. Which means no girl who is at least a little professional will just sit there to be polite for more than a few minutes.[/QUOTE]This doesn't really explain why the guys I saw buying champagne on my last visit earlier this month are surrounded but at least two girls (and sometimes three) for several hours after the purchase. Some girls came and went during this time and did not appear to get any obvious compensation for their time. See my previous post on this topic (below) for further details. My question has not been answered!
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1645786]This doesn't really explain why the guys I saw buying champagne on my last visit earlier this month are surrounded but at least two girls (and sometimes three) for several hours after the purchase. Some girls came and went during this time and did not appear to get any obvious compensation for their time. See my previous post on this topic (below) for further details. My question has not been answered![/QUOTE]Hi London Traveller, I do generally respect other members and their opinions and statements and I try to be polite when I respond to someone. So next time try to speak in a friendly manner when you speak to me. As you can clearly see from my post I did not respond directly to yours. I gave an up to date info on the champagne bottle commission. Even though I did not respond to you directly, what I said can still be useful regarding your questions. One of your questions was this: 'Is he paying just for the champagne or is there extra for the company as well?' The girls are not earning any profit from the champagne sales which means there are only two possible explanations for girls staying with a champagne guy for more than a few minutes. Either he is paying for the company (which may be done in a way you didn't notice or might be arranged with the reception is some manner) or it is someone known to spend a lot of cash at Artemis so they are giving him the extra attention and they are behaving like gold-diggers HOPING to get booked. By the way there is one special guest I have seen more than once and both girls and others who know the place well have told me it is a particular rich guy who likes to have a few girls around all the time for hours and sometimes not even having sex with them but just playing around and then sometimes going with one or a few of them. He would fit your description of the scene and you can be sure he spends a lot of cash on everyone involved and everyone gets a big tip. It may be him or it may be someone else. I personally am a bit surprised about a lot of guys on here asking questions all the time and not reporting much (I am not speaking about you personally since you surely reported a lot) and talking about a lot of little details that seems to be a little nerdy and boring to me. I try to be helpful since I like a lot of the reports and some of the perspectives given by different members here. But if its only some kind of live ticker about how many grains of sand you can find at a beach and then when you respond to people they cannot even respond in a polite way, it really seems like a waste of time.
Regards.
Diplomat.
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Sexcation Follow-up
[QUOTE=Diplomat;1644852] Nadja / Nadia BTW is in her mid-twenties and she too is one of my favorites. May I ask you to give a few more details about the experience and her service? To me she is among the most gorgeous women at Arte and she is both quite professional and she can seem cold a little distant to some.
Thank you and a great weekend to you all.
Diplomat.[/QUOTE]I apologize, I wrote her name down wrong. It was Nadine (nah-deen) and not Nadia. Sorry. So we may not be talking about the same person anymore, but just in case. Description still same: blonde, tattoo wings form shoulder to ass, a small indentation above her left ass cheek, and yes very hot looking. Speaking on service, she did push the threesome when I first approached her (with her friend present), so I thought she was a threesome or nothing girl. So I nearly walked away but she said one-on-one ok. So I was a bit worried I was going to get a quickie, lets get this over with session. Not the case. She never pushed the threesome deal in room, she wasn't aggressive about extras (even though I wanted CIM anyway) and I didn't feel rushed with the mood killing "are you cumming yet! It was a very relaxed session and I enjoyed every minute of it. And I love it when you make a request and they say, "yes, of course" in that sexy euro accent. When done, small chit-chat (I'm not much of a talker so chit-chat usually small anyway) and no demanding or hinting of a tip. If I was a local, I'd consider being a repeat customer. God! I have to learn German and move there one day.
ChuckZ
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1645804] The girls are not earning any profit from the champagne sales [/QUOTE]I'm not certain this is strictly true. I don't know about Artemis but a girl I used to know very well at Palace told me one day she spent some time in the VIP room with some loaded fella who bought 2 magnums of champagne. The next day she got 300 euro from the club. I asked if this was standard practice and she said yes but that this was an extreme example.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1645804]Hi London Traveller, I do generally respect other members and their opinions and statements and I try to be polite when I respond to someone. So next time try to speak in a friendly manner when you speak to me.
By the way there is one special guest I have seen more than once and both girls and others who know the place well have told me it is a particular rich guy who likes to have a few girls around all the time for hours and sometimes not even having sex with them but just playing around and then sometimes going with one or a few of them. He would fit your description of the scene and you can be sure he spends a lot of cash on everyone involved and everyone gets a big tip.[/QUOTE]Hi Diplomat, I have had a look at my post and can't really see anything not friendly or polite about it. It wasn't particularly addressed to you anyway, I was just using your post as a quote to hang my question from, but I don't wish to upset anyone on the board (at least not at the moment) so many apologies for any offence (however inadvertently) caused.
Your response seems to have answered my question anyway, with reference to the 'rich guy', as this is what seemed to be happening. However, the lack of commission for champagne raises the question of what happens if you buy a bottle now. Is there a chance that one can be left completely alone to drink it? (Diplomat this question is not particularly directed at you but is thrown out to the board as a whole.).
Best wishes, LT.
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1645836]However, the lack of commission for champagne raises the question of what happens if you buy a bottle now. Is there a chance that one can be left completely alone to drink it? [/QUOTE]Probably not as they try to avoid people getting drunk. LOL.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=ChuckZ;1645805] I love it when you make a request and they say, "yes, of course" in that sexy euro accent. [/QUOTE]I think you mean sexy 50 Euro accent.
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[QUOTE=ChuckZ;1645805]I apologize, I wrote her name down wrong. It was Nadine (nah-deen) and not Nadia. Sorry. So we may not be talking about the same person anymore, but just in case. Description still same: blonde, tattoo wings form shoulder to ass, a small indentation above her left ass cheek, and yes very hot looking. Speaking on service, she did push the threesome when I first approached her (with her friend present), so I thought she was a threesome or nothing girl. So I nearly walked away but she said one-on-one ok. So I was a bit worried I was going to get a quickie, lets get this over with session. Not the case. She never pushed the threesome deal in room, she wasn't aggressive about extras (even though I wanted CIM anyway) and I didn't feel rushed with the mood killing "are you cumming yet! It was a very relaxed session and I enjoyed every minute of it. And I love it when you make a request and they say, "yes, of course" in that sexy euro accent. When done, small chit-chat (I'm not much of a talker so chit-chat usually small anyway) and no demanding or hinting of a tip. If I was a local, I'd consider being a repeat customer. God! I have to learn German and move there one day.
ChuckZ[/QUOTE]Hi ChuckZ,
Thank you for giving further details. You haven't been wrong, its indeed Nadja / Nadia. This is how I had described her a few weeks ago:
'Nadja is a 5'9" tall blonde German from Hamburg with green eyes, long legs, perfect silicone boobs, many tattoos including a big one on her back and a few piercings. She is a nice and very correct person and among the most gorgeous women in Artemis. No DFK. '.
Your description is perfect by the way. She is the only blonde with angel wings tattoos on her back and everything you said is fitting. I know her well and she has never been pushy about anything with me. Still for the guys who want someone who is very much involved from the start or who prefer a girl who is more extroverted I do not always recommend her. But of course its always difficult to predict how another guy will connect with a girl I like.
Regards.
Diplomat.
P.S. Dear London Traveller, thanks for your clarification and let's just forget about that misunderstanding.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1645998]Hi ChuckZ,
Thank you for giving further details. You haven't been wrong, its indeed Nadja / Nadia. This is how I had described her a few weeks ago:
'Nadja is a 5'9" tall blonde German from Hamburg with green eyes, long legs, perfect silicone boobs, many tattoos including a big one on her back and a few piercings. She is a nice and very correct person and among the most gorgeous women in Artemis. No DFK. '.
Your description is perfect by the way. She is the only blonde with angel wings tattoos on her back and everything you said is fitting. I know her well and she has never been pushy about anything with me. Still for the guys who want someone who is very much involved from the start or who prefer a girl who is more extroverted I do not always recommend her. But of course its always difficult to predict how another guy will connect with a girl I like.
Regards.
Diplomat
P.S. Dear London Traveller, thanks for your clarification and let's just forget about that misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]Nadia do anal, that is a good thing about her.
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Stupid questions
Guys,
Could you help me out with some answers to a few questions ahead of my visit next week.
1. Do you need to wear anything under your towel?
2. Is English spoken well by most of the girls?
3. Any suggestions on the best girl to start off my FKK experience with?
Cheers
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[QUOTE=JayjayL;1647484]Guys,
Could you help me out with some answers to a few questions ahead of my visit next week.
1. Do you need to wear anything under your towel?
2. Is English spoken well by most of the girls?
3. Any suggestions on the best girl to start off my FKK experience with?
Cheers[/QUOTE]1. Very few guys wear towels at the club, most wear the robe you get at reception. You could wear underwear under the robe if you wanted.
2. Depends on your interpretation of 'well'. I've never met a girl at The A. That I couldn't communicate with through english. But it can sometimes be limited to telling her what you want and her telling you if she does it.
3. Spend a bit of time reading the thread and you will probably see the same names mentioned a lot. I'd suggest Nina or Fatima.
Enjoy your day and please report back.
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1647624]I'd suggest Nina or Fatima.[/QUOTE]Maybe bad luck: IMHO there will be neither Nina nor Fatima in Artemis next week.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1645812]I'm not certain this is strictly true. I don't know about Artemis but a girl I used to know very well at Palace told me one day she spent some time in the VIP room with some loaded fella who bought 2 magnums of champagne. The next day she got 300 euro from the club. I asked if this was standard practice and she said yes but that this was an extreme example.[/QUOTE]The girls used to earn commission for champagne sales, but no longer do so. Nina recently told me a story about a long term Artemis girl who had not sold any champagne in something like nine years at the club. Then one day, she sold two expensive bottles, showed up the next day to collect her commission, only to be told that the commission scheme had been discontinued one day before.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1647741]Maybe bad luck: IMHO there will be neither Nina nor Fatima in Artemis next week.[/QUOTE]How sure are about this? I was planning for a visit next week and was hoping to go with at least one of them.
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Other FKK clubs in Berlin
Hi guys,
I'm coming to Berlin in December with a friend for a long weekend and will make a compulsory visit to Artemis. Looking forward to it!
For the other days (when not at Artemis) I would like to try another FKK club in the Berlin area.
Does anybody know or can suggest another club (that would be up to standard) as an alternative to going to Artemis for a 2nd night.
Much appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Skristel;1648186]Hi guys,
I'm coming to Berlin in December with a friend for a long weekend and will make a compulsory visit to Artemis. Looking forward to it!
For the other days (when not at Artemis) I would like to try another FKK club in the Berlin area.
Does anybody know or can suggest another club (that would be up to standard) as an alternative to going to Artemis for a 2nd night.
Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]The only FKK in Berlin is Artemis. Another should open up in Potsdam but it's still kind of vapourware. Check the Berlin thread for non-FKK options, there's a bunch, but it's a different sport.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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StairMasters
[QUOTE=Kimino;1648346]The only FKK in Berlin is Artemis. Another should open up in Potsdam but it's still kind of vapourware. [/QUOTE]If there were even vapours at the spot of the alleged Grand Plazza, that would be at least something. But everytime we sniff, nadda. Perhaps it should be called the Grand Cazza.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...the Westkreuz Beat goes on.
Over a hectic weekend, RB went with Chloe (DE Blond, tall, very busty) and Lea (DE Black hair, super thin except for 2 quite notable exceptions). Both just great sessions and will repeat. Both girls very often busy and in great demand (what I now call StairMasters), so you need to be on your toes. Both also away now for a week or so.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1648508]Over a hectic weekend, RB went with Chloe (DE Blond, tall, very busty) and Lea (DE Black hair, super thin except for 2 quite notable exceptions). Both just great sessions and will repeat. Both girls very often busy and in great demand (what I now call StairMasters), so you need to be on your toes. Both also away now for a week or so.[/QUOTE]Lea is very sexy, I am looking forward to meet her when I go to Berlin in a couple of weeks. When I have watched her she didn't really seem to want to meet customers, she has been very busy talking to the other girls in the "German sofa".
When I visited Art in October Nina told me she would go home for vacation about last week of November.
Sounds like more girls have a week off at this time, is there any kind of German vacation we should know about, or is this only a coincidence?
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1648508]If there were even vapours at the spot of the alleged Grand Plazza, that would be at least something. But everytime we sniff, nadda. Perhaps it should be called the Grand Cazza.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...the Westkreuz Beat goes on.
Over a hectic weekend, RB went with Chloe (DE Blond, tall, very busty) and Lea (DE Black hair, super thin except for 2 quite notable exceptions). Both just great sessions and will repeat. Both girls very often busy and in great demand (what I now call StairMasters), so you need to be on your toes. Both also away now for a week or so.[/QUOTE]We could set up the Stairmasters Awards 2015. LOL.
Good to hear there's some new talents. Need to nuclearize my favorites list. Keep saying that, but then...
We'll see on Friday. Been reading it's getting cold up there, reaching the outer rooms will get adventurous.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Kimino
Out of interest is there a reason why you only goto artemis? I was guessing its the logistics flights etc. Frankfurt large clubs are an experience to behold but I also love artemis especially for the wide range of european and german girls there. I'm back in Berlin in December if anyones around do check the travel section.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1648508]
Over a hectic weekend, RB went with Chloe (DE Blond, tall, very busty)[/QUOTE]Are the busty attributes natural or cyborg-ish?
I kind of miss a good Teutonic blonde experience.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1648586]Out of interest is there a reason why you only goto artemis? I was guessing its the logistics flights etc. Frankfurt large clubs are an experience to behold but I also love artemis especially for the wide range of european and german girls there. I'm back in Berlin in December if anyones around do check the travel section.[/QUOTE]Ciao StarletVoyager. Yep, logistics is part of it, I'm a lazy ass and Berlin is far more easy, especially for one day trips, which has been my pattern in the last year. I know the place, the girls, friends to hang around with and honestly, after visiting many other places, more times, in Frank, Koln, Stuttgart and other areas, Artemis is the place I prefer. I'll be in Frankfurt in January for a couple of days, specifically to visit Sharks for the first time and give Oase another chance after some years. In that city I normally prefer Palace all the way.
I'll be up in Berlin mid December, I'll check the thread so If we happen to be there in the same days we could meet up. You are normally in the Frakfurt area, correct?
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Down Mammary Lane
[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1648593]Are the busty attributes natural or cyborg-ish? I kind of miss a good Teutonic blonde experience.[/QUOTE]Well you are in Silicon Valley. But done very well. We actually had a discussion about this as I was curious, where done, what's the latest technology, longevity, etc. Quite natural feel and shape, real works of art. But more to the point, both (girls) just very nice people, fun to be with, very warm and responsive.
Anyway, as you know with all things Borg-ish resistance is futile.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1648508]Over a hectic weekend, RB went with Chloe (DE Blond, tall, very busty) and Lea (DE Black hair, super thin except for 2 quite notable exceptions). Both just great sessions and will repeat. Both girls very often busy and in great demand (what I now call StairMasters), so you need to be on your toes. Both also away now for a week or so.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Kimino;1648549]Good to hear there's some new talents. Need to nuclearize my favorites list. Keep saying that, but then...
Cheers.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]I don't know Chloe but Lea is not new, saw her close to one year ago in Artemis and before that in Golden Time in Bruggen. Before GT she used to work in Globe. Used to be a long-haired red-head in GT, then long black hair in Artemis and now, if my memory serves me correct, she had short black hair some weeks ago. A petite girl with an over-sized rack, almost no ass and a piercing in a very strategic place. An ok fuck.
Lea uses to hang out with another ex-Globe girl in her mid-twenties from Hanover with an enhanced rack, a big woman-face tattoo on her back. Forgot her name but this girl is an excellent bunny in the room when she gets in the mood. Has always given me the money's worth one or one and a half hour sessions.
Another girl that I'm surprised that is not mentioned here is Carla / Karla, early twenties, from Ro, friend of Ro-girl Amelia. Killer body minus saggy tits and very open-minded in the room. Has always made me very, very happy.
PH
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Anetta
Hi all. Was in Artemis today and had a good time with non silicone and natural breast Anetta. Long blond hair with blue eyes. She speak a light German slang but is Hungarian and living a long time now in Germany. Knowing to work in Frankfurt long time ago. I enjoyed the outside whirlpool and outside pool panorama sauna at a November day with nearly 18 C in the sun during 12 to 3 pm. She reached me and we started to talk with ending in one of the new 1001 night rooms in the outside area. Anetta is a very sensitive but powerful like a GF. Even though her service is awesome. Finally for me. Enjoy and relax. Hope to see semeone around Artemis soon. My drive back to the NRW area is 4 hours long. But new club Oceans is waiting for me at the weekend. So far from the FKK club front with cheers from RM.
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Location choice
Frankfurt has dominated but vienna, zurich and cologne have been visited too. With an air route direct to Berlin from my nearest big airport here in the uk, reasons to concentrate on artemis for a change from frankfurt just became easier.
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TR FKK Artemis, Berlin Germany, mid-November 2014
TR FKK Artemis, Berlin Germany, mid-November 2014.
Halenseestrasse 32-36,10711 Berlin.
+49 030 8904440.
[URL]http://www.fkk-artemis.de[/URL]
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Saturday afternoon and evening, mid-November 2014.
INTRODUCTION.
My first time to the fabled Artemis, the sole FKK in Berlin. I had heard so much about Artemis and knew that I could not travel to Berlin and not visit Artemis at least once. I think Artemis is OK, but not as good as similar big clubs in Frankfurt or GT / Acapulco in NRW.
GETTING THERE.
Use the BVG Journey Planner to figure out train / tram / bus connections:
[URL]http://fahrinfo.bvg.de/Fahrinfo/bin/query.bin/en[/URL]
Because the train drivers' strike was over by the time I arrived in Berlin, I was able to get to the S-bahn Westkreuz station easily via the S42 ringbahn train. From Westkreuz train platform, walk up the stairs to the little parking lot, then walk to the left around the blue car servicing shop. Feels like you're walking along the freeway with all the traffic. I was surprised at how close Artemis was to the train station and busy highway 100; FKKs for me have usually been in out-of-the-way places and this one was a big building right next to the highway. The Artemis building is also visible from the S-bahn tracks as well; I wonder how many of the thousands of people that pass by every day know what goes on inside.
Upon leaving Artemis I ended up getting a taxi back to my hotel near Kurfrstendamm and paid 11 EUR including tip.
FKK Artemis.
Halenseestrasse 32-36,10711 Berlin.
+49 030 8904440.
[URL]http://www.fkk-artemis.de[/URL]
Entrance: 80 EUR.
30 min session: 60 EUR.
CIM: +50 EUR.
Artemis is a big club, but doesn't seem to be very efficient with their use of space. The main bar on the ground is one big smoking area, but very few girls make the trip into the downstairs wellness area and back bar to troll for customers. None of the truly hot ones came downstairs, so to snag a hottie for yourself, you have to breathe some second-hand smoke.
After entering from the parking lot, I paid 80 EUR for the entrance fee and got the usual plastic wristband and a huge key / watchband combo. Together with the cheap diving watch I wear to help keep my on time during sessions, I had 3 bands on my left wrist. Good thing I don't wear a FitBit or something to track calories spent during fucking.
I asked the counter lady for ten-euro notes as change for a fifty, and she at first gave me just 2 20's and a 10, then relented and gave me 3 10's and a 20. I supposed she thought I was planning for quite a few sessions. However, I ended up being pretty done after my 2nd session--guess I'm getting old.
Money lockers are in a mezzanine just above the entry counter, similar to Mainhattan where the money lockers are open for all the clothed newcomers to see you paying the girl you just fucked. Ok for security (hard to conceal a break in) but a traffic jam at peak times between new arrivals, guys leaving, and session payments.
The locker area is narrow but seems to go on forever--with just half-height lockers I think they plan on having hundreds of guys in the place at a time. Sure felt like that this Saturday night.
From the mezzanine you can go into the central circular stairwell; upstairs are fuckrooms with flirty names like "Phallus" in addition to the numbers (although I never could tell if they really matched their themes). Girls pick "keys" off a rack although they really are just key fobs and just a way to tell whether a room is occupied or not. I'm sure someone will come up with an app for this eventually--you could be chilling downstairs in the smoking lounge waiting until you get a ping to let you know there is a zimmer frei.
Just past 2 video machines (one was kaput when I was there) is the main bar area, kind of reminiscent of Mainhattan or Sharks where guys can sit on either side and there can be a racetrack-type of flow around. On the other end of the room is an entrance to the restaurant with an adjoining smoking-allowed eating tent. I was super hungry after touristing around that morning, and had purposely not picked up lunch outside thinking it would be covered in the higher-than-usual 80 EUR entrance fee. But alas, the breakfast food had just been taken down at 3 pm and so I missed out.
I resorted to eating every scrap of snack items I had in my knapsack, including the airplane-shaped crackers from Lufthansa, a half-slice of packaged Vollkornbrot swiped from my hotel breakfast, and a granola bar I stashed from home. This I ate downstairs in the wellness area bar, a sleepy quiet place with guys lying on couches and a very attractive but cold-as-ice bartender. They had left some magazines lying around, like the German versions of "InStyle" and "People" but without any girls making the rounds down there it was kind of boring.
I braved the upstairs bar smoke for a bit; figured I'd try to find a girl to fill the hour or so before dinnertime. First girl to accost me in the bar was Irina, a slender blonde from Bulgaria. I almost went with her to just knock one out before dinner, kind of like a warmup round, but that would break my rule of going with the first new girl that approaches you at an FKK. So I held out, but only for a little while.
I succumbed, perhaps too soon, to Xenia of Germany's relatively low-key approach. She was probably just as insistent about going to the room only a few sentences into our conversation, but because she has a resemblance to one of my coworkers, her looks made her pass the boner test (am I getting a boner just talking with her? So I went upstairs with her.
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XENIA de Germany.
5'7" or so, brown eyes and hair, full tan from lots of solarium time.
My session with Xenia was just ok. I can't complain--she has a great body and a super-tight pussy and I got off; but she was so professional about it. She mentioned that she had worked just about everywhere (but Frankfurt), including Switzerland. Not a good sign. Then when she mentioned Finca Erotica "near Koln" I said, "you mean Dierdorf?" she was surprised I even knew about it. That and the sense of exasperation that it was taking me a while to cum (even with a rest day, my 3 sessions at Sharks had taken a lot out of me) made it feel like just a throwaway warmup session.
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Afterward I relaxed in the downstairs bar again, but got super bored without any girls wandering by.
This is where I think Artemis could really improve--if they could figure out how to get the traffic through the club going a little better. Later in the evening some girls would make the trek downstairs to troll for guys in the downstairs kino or even venture into the wet and slippery sauna area. But during the afternoon it was pretty much a boys-only treehouse down there.
Guys would stand at the rail of the main floor stairwell watching girls come back downstairs from sessions or back into the smoking bar afteward. I found a nice perch on the stool in front of the broken video game machine just outside the sliding door to the bar. That way I could escape most of the smoke but still check out girls as they went in and out. Met a lot of girls this way; it felt like being a gatekeeper or something.
I saw Xenia take up a guy soon after getting back into the bar from our session and they came back down in about 10 min flat. Then she went back into the bar and almost walked right back out with a new guy, and they were back down quite quickly as well. She must make bank.
Based on the parade of girls past my perch I sensed that there was slim pickings on the day shift today, and I'd need to have new girls come in to find my next lucky lady. So I went to grab dinner.
Dinner choices were the following:
Beef "rindroulade" pot roast (was better at 10 pm).
Mash potatoes.
"Indian" marinated chicken breast.
White rice.
Stewed collard greens.
Iceberg lettuce salad.
Canned pears (ran out by 10 pm).
Thus fortified, I ventured out and made the rounds again--the downstairs kino was pretty empty save for a couple of guys just watching the porn. Later I would be in there when a grey-haired guy was getting a blowjob in the 2nd sofa. A guy sitting on the back sofa with his buddy was getting scolded by a girl "you touch me like that, you have to pay me!" I left before that discussion escalated.
Once I regained my post at the video game I was able to scout a couple of likely targets--a slender young teeny type with big brown eyes, and a blonde I hadn't seen before. The dim lights in the smoking bar make it hard to tell what the girls really look like; having the brighter lights in the stairwell was better. A couple of times this older staff guy who looked like Ty Pennington shooed guys away from the railing, saying, "No parking hier! You must move inside the bar!" Guys kept coming back and congregating there anyway.
I saw the young teeny type waiting to get paid after a session; she was smiling a lot and still flirty with her customer, and noticed me watching too. Good sign of a customer-centered focus, as the service business MBAs like to say. I made eyecontact with her a few times and gave her a sly smile--I think she know I liked her looks.
Eventually I snagged my teeny girl inside the smoking bar--she was standing about midway and I just walked right up to her after entering throgh the doorway.
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SIMI Turkish-German.
24 years old. Big brown eyes and a slim petite teeny body. Long brown hair with lightened highlights. Small script tattoo on right shoulder.
Simi said, "I see you; you know what you want", meaning, I see how you don't go with just any girl that hits on you. I said, "Yes, I know what I want--I want to go to the zimmer with you. ".
We paraded past the crowd in the smoking room and along the stairwell rail to go get a key upstairs. Luckily we snagged a key off the counter and she covered it up with her purse while she went to get more towels. She then led me by the hand to our room.
Our session was nice and relaxed; she seemed comfortable with me and it felt like a quasi-girlfriend experience. We did mish for a long while; I liked looking into her eyes while fucking her in mish; her slender butt looked great in doggy as her lips gripped me with each thrust. She said, "Don't you want me on top? I like to be on top" which I know from most FKK girls means, "you're taking too long, I'm going to speed it up a bit here" but with my previous session a few hours prior and my Sharks visit I was having a hard time popping. Simi was playful and smiling a lot during our session; I really liked her personality after tanned ice-queen Xenia earlier.
Simi really gave it to me in cowgirl; great high rpm pussy massage of my erect cock which I'm sure is her patented get-guys-off-fast move. But it wasn't doing it for me, which I think surprised her. We switched to kneeling doggy, after changing condoms (like did we wear it out or something?) and then stand-up doggy (me standing, her face down ass up on the bed) and finally I said, "ok, let me come in your mouth". It was a pretty good BBBJTCIM; she said simply, "Wow" when I collapsed back onto the bed and she spat a big gob of my cum out into a paper towel.
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The rest of the evening I didn't bother looking for a new girl to do--I thought, well, if had that great session with Simi just now, how will I find another session to match or top that? Plus I didn't think I could come again anyway.
I did circuits of the upstairs and main smoking bars; I'd hang out in the smoking bar looking for hot girls, but after too much time in the smoke I'd want to move back downstairs into the nonsmoking wellness area. I watched the Pulver-Kitchko fight downstairs; a number of guys ended up down there too but hardly any girls came by.
So I left early; new guys were still coming in, and it made for a big traffic jam in the money locker and shower areas. If I didn't have to hang out in the smoking area to see and interview hot girls I probably would have stayed longer; but without any eyecandy downstairs I was getting bored.
SUMMARY.
Artemis was just ok. It has the size of World or Sharks or Acapulco, but because it is the only FKK in town it doesn't need to excel at anything. I will still go whilst in Berlin, but I can't think of it as a destination FKK, one that I would go out of my way to visit during a trip to Germany.
GIRLS I MET / DID.
NICOLE Tall auburn / blonde chick, a little thick ("athletic" Hint of Taylor Swift in her face. Latin words below roman seal in upper back tat "Gladiatores".
IRINA skinny blonde Bulg.
*XENIA 5'7" German girl from Frankfurt with blond hair and brown eyes. I noted that she had no tan lines and she replied that she spends lots of time in the solarium--perhaps too much time. Her script tat along the side of her torso is understated. She did have great muscle control though. But I saw she processed her next 2 guys in 10 min sessions each.
WALESSSA I wasn't sure about this girl's name; she said she was half German and half African and had a young Rihanna (back when her hair was longer) look to her. Pretty and slim.
ALICIA Hungary red hair cheerful.
SOLIDA older friendly cheekbones.
TATIANA straight bangs.
*SIMI big brown eyes German-born Turkish girl highlight light brown hair script name right shoulder tat 24 years old university student 60+50.
IRIS tall rom blonde.
SUNNY German from hamburg tats dark hair cute face like Alicia Mondial.
CLEOPATRA from Spain Wore eyeglasses.
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[QUOTE=Tommyseville;1649118]TR FKK Artemis, Berlin Germany, mid-November 2014.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice report Tommyseville!
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1648966]Frankfurt has dominated but vienna, zurich and cologne have been visited too. With an air route direct to Berlin from my nearest big airport here in the uk, reasons to concentrate on artemis for a change from frankfurt just became easier.[/QUOTE]As much as I like Artemis, the direct, cheap and well-scheduled flights from Gatwick, plus the excellent s-bahn connections, are a big factor in why Berlin is my default option. There's a new route to Stuttgart opening in the spring, and I'm looking forward to trying the clubs there.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1649293]There's a new route to Stuttgart opening in the spring, and I'm looking forward to trying the clubs there.[/QUOTE]Had a lot of fun in Paradise (Stuttgart) few times, few years ago. Don't know how it is now but you should give it a try. The sound system in the club was great. God knows why I remember this irrelevant details but nothing more usefull. LOL.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Hif84;1648148]How sure are about this? I was planning for a visit next week and was hoping to go with at least one of them.[/QUOTE]Sure about Nina. Quite sure about Fatima.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1649607]Sure about Nina. Quite sure about Fatima.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer! I now realized you wrote it on a Saturday which means this week. Was it, technically speaking, this week (48) or next week (49) you meant? If it was 48 it gives me some hope due to the fact that my plan is to visit week 49.
Sorry for sounding like an interrogator, LOL.
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September visit, Evan and Giselle
Sorry to be so late with this report. Late September, evening, lots of girls, started out with Evan or Heaven, Italian, very thin with nice hard protruding nipples, a sure attraction to me anytime. She was enthusiastic, great blowjob, beautiful bod, great tight ass. I loved looking in the mirror as we fucked. Stayed an hour as she was sweet, nice CIM. Not so easy for her. BJ nearly an hour with my fat cock. After wiping off the spunk she mentioned, not so easy, mouth was tired. Professional trooper.
Next, I couldn't keep my eyes off of Giselle, I loved watching her walk naked around the room, stretching over the arm of the couch with her butt in the air, teasing. She's got a great bod, small natural tits, slightly large in the hips, but no fat. Blonde hair, long and curly. Romanian. She came by and sat on my lap, we talked and caressed a bit, but I told her I needed to rest up a bit. She came back an hour later, I was ready. We went to a room, I explained that after one long session, there was a good chance I wouldn't get it up again. She said in the most charming way, "don't you worry, I will take care of you". She looked in my eyes, started slowly licking my cock, and I was hard again after the first 20 seconds in her sensitive mouth. She was great. When after awhile I lost my stiffness, she said, "maybe you want to watch me? And proceeded to masturbate, quite a show.
I had a session with a German woman, name unknown, great bod, blond, 30 ish. Not so pleasant, she was the boss, didn't fuck on top, told me what to do instead of the willingness of all the Romanians I had been with. Heard complaints from another monger about the bossiness of a different German. Bad attitude.
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Jenna
New great pics from a fantastic lady:
[URL]http://www.berlinintim.de/SetCard-Jenna-27458.html[/URL]
1500 g on each side.
She will be back at 01.12.
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I heard some rumours that Nina has left Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Hif84;1649651]Thanks for the answer! I now realized you wrote it on a Saturday which means this week. Was it, technically speaking, this week (48) or next week (49) you meant? If it was 48 it gives me some hope due to the fact that my plan is to visit week 49.
Sorry for sounding like an interrogator, LOL.[/QUOTE]Fatima present yesterday, Nina missing. Totally unverified rumours, that Nina might not come back.
Quite a crowd last night, BTW. There was some boat messe or something in town.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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I have booked a trip to Berlin just to see Nina, who I have not seen for several years. However if she has disappeared then I may rethink visiting Artemis. So if anyone does get any info on her return I would be more than grateful.
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I was looking forward to meet Nina after reading so many good things about her here. Hope she will be present when I visit Artemis next year.
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Nina told me she would go home for vacation last 1 or 2 weeks of November, I met her in October.
Let's hope this is only rumours.
I'll be at Art Thursday 11th Dec, hope to see her again.
Would be nice to meet up if some fellow from forums will be there same day.
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The Santa Maria, the Pinto, but no Nina for the mo
Nina. Lots of conflicting rumours & stories but not at all clear. Gone for the moment but some in the know say she will be back at some point. Who knows. Something happened and she left but not clear for how long. A week at least. Let us respect privacy rules here and if and when she comes back the info will trickle out. She will be missed for sure even with Jenna's Himalayan distractions.
For you long haul travelers, as Donald Rummsfeld once said "we go to war with the army we have, not the one we want. " He could not remember the original refrain from Stephen Stills.
If Nina is a deal breaker, best to ring Artemis and ask as close to your visit as possible.
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Forgot to mention
Yesterday I tried a new girl (for me). Unfortunately I can't remember the name, started with S, something like Sedna or similar. Anyways, turkish, pony tail, black hair, wearing a garter on one of the legs. Nice body but not slim. Enough to spot her easily. She came up to me and was quite hot, sexy, friendly and very promising, kissing and really trying to turn me on. I bounced her politely but after a while decided to give her a try.
Turned out to be a below average session, speedy bbj wo skill (or will to use it). A bit reluctant about DATY (at least in the beginning). No chemistry. She made no upselling or anything like it, it just was kind of a waste of time and energy. Obviously YMMV.
This just confirms that my normal attitude to just grab a girl that attracts me and go to the room without loosing time in sofa interviews is right on for me.
The only other thing that can influence my choices are suggestions from very trusted colleagues. Thanks Buck for Antonia, thanks RB for Debbie. LOL.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Nina likes every year on vacation in April, November, December to mid-January.
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Debbie is very nice we have great chemistry and fun, she also joined me for dinner.
Regarding Nina and Fatima, I've not been with these ladies yet, should I? What have I missed?
How do I spot them?
Thanks.
Nille
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1650580]The only other thing that can influence my choices are suggestions from very trusted colleagues.[/QUOTE]I dunno- I know both those guys and I would not trust them.
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[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1650591]Debbie is very nice we have great chemistry and fun, she also joined me for dinner.
Regarding Nina and Fatima, I've not been with these ladies yet, should I? What have I missed?
Nille[/QUOTE]Ciao Nille!
This is my personal take about this. You "should" as if you visit Rome 10 times you "should" probably go and take a look at the Colosseum at least once, even if you are not there for that. Everybody is talking so much about them, I would probably try them only for that. LOL.
I've been with both a few times over the years. Friendly girls, good service, won't let you down, still never became favorites. It all depends if once you see them you feel attracted by them or not.
It's a taste matter, nice girls but I don't find them particularly sexy and I know I can get the same level of service from others. Still I'm sure that If you try them, you'll be happy about it. I let the description details to others, as I'm not very good at that.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1650752]Ciao Nille!
This is my personal take about this. You "should" as if you visit Rome 10 times you "should" probably go and take a look at the Colosseum at least once, even if you are not there for that. Everybody is talking so much about them, I would probably try them only for that. LOL.
I've been with both a few times over the years. Friendly girls, good service, won't let you down, still never became favorites. It all depends if once you see them you feel attracted by them or not.
It's a taste matter, nice girls but I don't find them particularly sexy and I know I can get the same level of service from others. Still I'm sure that If you try them, you'll be happy about it. I let the description details to others, as I'm not very good at that.
Cheers.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Thanks Kimino, my friend.
I've seen Colosseum 3 times and Artemis countless times.
If Nina is the Czech brunette then I was with her long time ago, also with another Czech girl something like "Marketta".
I assume Fatima is also Czech.
Sorry I have forgotten about Nina, It has been many many girls since then, LOL.
I remembered, it was a nice GFE session, but the details are gone.
Nille
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Very much agree with Kimino; Nina didn't attract me too much at first, I would probably not have tried her if she wasn't mentioned a lot on this forum (in total the tips on this forum have been very helpful to me, thank you to all the seniors!
The service Nina gave was fantastic! I am usually not into extras or extra time more than the usual 30 minutes, but I had to do an exception for her. Very well worth 120 euros for an hour. A little hard to describe her, I guess about 168 cm tall, long wave brown hair (sweet looking, don't remember any tattoos. Will definitely repeat if she is present mid December.
Looking forward to getting some good tips on how to spot Fatima.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1650812] (sweet looking, don't remember any tattoos.[/QUOTE]Nina has a rose and thorns tat on her lower back.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1650812]Looking forward to getting some good tips on how to spot Fatima.[/QUOTE]Search this thread for "Fatima", and you should find some tips, e. G. One from me on 14. Oct and another one from 10. Nov.
There were also some descriptions of Nina from around the same time.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1650488]I'll be at Art Thursday 11th Dec, hope to see her again.
[/QUOTE]Me too!
If we meet up, I can also point out Fatima for you.
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[URL]http://www.berlinintim.de/SetCard-Jenna-27458.html[/URL]
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1650903][URL]http://www.berlinintim.de/SetCard-Jenna-27458.html[/URL]
HB.[/QUOTE]Yikes! Not my thing, but something to try for the bucket list, I suppose.
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Leg garter
[QUOTE=Galazy2;1650859]Nina has a rose and thorns tat on her lower back.[/QUOTE]Nina has a signature white leg garter that she wears on her right leg. She is usually around the downstairs kino area. She is always around when I visit, but Fatima I have never met. Guys have mentioned that she is from Slovakia. Is that true?
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1650909]Nina has a signature white leg garter that she wears on her right leg. She is usually around the downstairs kino area. She is always around when I visit, but Fatima I have never met. Guys have mentioned that she is from Slovakia. Is that true?
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Yes, Slovakia.
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Never had the pleasure
[QUOTE=Frozty;1650917]Yes, Slovakia.[/QUOTE]Thank you for confirming Frozty.
It is one flag I have yet to capture. I have met other half Czech-Slovak girls, but never one who is pure Slovak. They are the best kissers! From what I can see from the only Artemis photo posted, she looks good from the rear.
FiddyCent.
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Slovak Girls
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1650921]Thank you for confirming Frozty.
It is one flag I have yet to capture. I have met other half Czech-Slovak girls, but never one who is pure Slovak. They are the best kissers! From what I can see from the only Artemis photo posted, she looks good from the rear.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]I had a Slovak favorite going by the name of "Belinda" who was over at Oase. She worked days. Don't know if she's still there. Belinda was "pure" Slovak but living in Vienna. Have never heard her name mentioned by any other monger here ever. She was a GFE type who made passionate love. A great DFKer who also allowed anal. She will forever be remembered because of what she did during our first session. She smeared this chocolate candy she had onto my nuts and licked it off! We were both laughing as it was quite funny. Slovakia! I've captured that flag!
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1650892]Me too!
[/QUOTE]Me three. 90%.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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No Belinda at Oase when I was there.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1650925]I had a Slovak favorite going by the name of "Belinda" who was over at Oase. She worked days. Don't know if she's still there. Belinda was "pure" Slovak but living in Vienna. Have never heard her name mentioned by any other monger here ever. She was a GFE type who made passionate love. A great DFKer who also allowed anal. She will forever be remembered because of what she did during our first session. She smeared this chocolate candy she had onto my nuts and licked it off! We were both laughing as it was quite funny. Slovakia! I've captured that flag![/QUOTE]No mention of a Belinda at Oase when I was there earlier this month. It is something about the Slovak culture that I have observed in my travels. Close personal contact is common for them. I noticed this, The Cane, when I was in Bratislava and confirmed with the Czech-Slovak girls I have met over the years. Perhaps your new handle should be "Chef". Having a girl suck on your chocolate salty balls. LOL. Somebody should propose that challenge to Fatima.
[URL]www.youtube.com/watch?v=w24Xd8fVlTU[/URL]
FiddyCent.
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Slovak Culture, Who's at Oase, Chocolate Nuts, Capture the Flag
Boyze-the connections between all this admittedly fascinating stuff and what's up at Artemis, are very (very) subtle. As in nonexistent.
The Lounge door beckons, Oase thread could use some good news, and / or the Slovakia thread needs some pumping up.
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Hi everyone,
Just a quick question.
When does the holiday season start to effect Artemis? When will the best girls be gone and when do you suppose they'll be back?
Thanks!
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I was at Artemis yesterday.
Nina and Fatima were not there.
I tried to get hold on Debby but she was constantly busy when I was ready. So I went with other girls.
It was funny because we only met each others on the stairways to heaven. She went upstairs with other guest and I went down with other girls, LOL.
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Amina in Artemis
I was Friday evening at Artemis and beetween a lot of nice girls I meet Amina from Iran.
She was very charming and her naked stunning beauty was capturing me. She had perfumed olive skin, perfect natural tits and completely shaved pussy so I take a room with her for a session.
Very very hot. BJ was superlative and then I fucked her doggy. I think she's the best at the moment! Very recommended.
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Madeline
I was at Atremis last Saturday evening starting 5 pm. It was busy with the day punters and girls leaving and new ones coming in. I had an excellent session with Madeline who I chose purely as an optifuck not expecting anything. I was upfront with her about spending only 30 minutes in the zimmer on account of my previous two sessions and she was fine with it told me there would be no kissing with a 30 minute session. I had an amazing time and wish I was not jeg lagged so I could have a longer repeat session. For those who were enquiring about the holiday schedule Madeline told me she would be at the club starting December 27th and Jessie who was the other one I sessioned with told me she would return January 6th.
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[QUOTE=JohnCorey;1652600]I was at Atremis last Saturday evening starting 5 pm. It was busy with the day punters and girls leaving and new ones coming in. I had an excellent session with Madeline who I chose purely as an optifuck not expecting anything. I was upfront with her about spending only 30 minutes in the zimmer on account of my previous two sessions and she was fine with it told me there would be no kissing with a 30 minute session. I had an amazing time and wish I was not jeg lagged so I could have a longer repeat session. For those who were enquiring about the holiday schedule Madeline told me she would be at the club starting December 27th and Jessie who was the other one I sessioned with told me she would return January 6th.[/QUOTE]But when do the girls generally start leaving for the the holidays?
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Artemis this weekend
Hi all,
I will be in Germany for the next couple of weeks. I was considering whether to go to Berlin or the Frankfurt area this weekend. I've seen the posts related to Nina not being around which is disappointing as she was on holiday back in July when I was last at Artemis. Has she be seen the past couple of days? I also wanted to inquire if Carla or Sheenya has been at Artemis working this week or if they are also not around.
Thanks,
BB.
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[QUOTE=BegaBega;1652498]I was Friday evening at Artemis and beetween a lot of nice girls I meet Amina from Iran.
She was very charming and her naked stunning beauty was capturing me. She had perfumed olive skin, perfect natural tits and completely shaved pussy so I take a room with her for a session.
Very very hot. BJ was superlative and then I fucked her doggy. I think she's the best at the moment! Very recommended.[/QUOTE]I got with Amina on Tuesday. She is a truly beautiful woman, one of the most gorgeous women I've ever been with. But, unfortunately, my experience with her in the room was a total bust. My preferred position is cowgirl while I hold on to the thighs. This lasted with her only a couple of minutes before she started complaining she couldn't fuck me while I'm holding her. As I wasn't really up for any other position, she tried to finish me in her hand which just doesn't work for me at all. I searched for her in the forum and everybody else only had positive things, so I guess I just got unlucky.
Immediately after Amina, I got with a Turkish lady who looks quite similar from the back (same long black hair) and was standing in the same place as her right next to the bar entrance. Actually the reason I got with Amina first was because I mistook her for the other. She totally rocked my universe, unfortunately her name has escaped me but I'm sure she must be known to this forum as she told me she's been there for 4 years. Gorgeous (not as beautiful as Amina) but so much fun to around, great personality and outstanding in bed.
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Is she the one that prefers cum on tits? I was with a Persian girl that grew up in Germany, and she refused to let me cum during intercourse with a condom. She'd rather do cum on tits which I didn't mind. Very service oriented though, kept asking if everything was alright.
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[QUOTE=BigBad;1652656]Hi all,
I will be in Germany for the next couple of weeks. I was considering whether to go to Berlin or the Frankfurt area this weekend. I've seen the posts related to Nina not being around which is disappointing as she was on holiday back in July when I was last at Artemis. Has she be seen the past couple of days? I also wanted to inquire if Carla or Sheenya has been at Artemis working this week or if they are also not around.
Thanks,
BB.[/QUOTE]I didn't See Nina on Tuesday.
And it's nearly sure that she has left Artemis for all times.
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[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1652785]I didn't See Nina on Tuesday.
And it's nearly sure that she has left Artemis for all times.[/QUOTE]If I was a working girl, I would probably ask the management if they want to make a deal where I pay double entrance fee but I take over the name Nina. LOL.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1652785]And it's nearly sure that she has left Artemis for all times.[/QUOTE]Did someone reliable tell you this?
If she has left for good it's a pity, but there are for sure still lots and lots of hotties left at Artemis.
I am very much looking forward to my visit in 6 days. Sure hope to see Nina again, but I know others will give me a nice Thursday as well.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1653020]Sure hope to see Nina again....[/QUOTE]Not likely; the latest story is she is gone for good. Boyfriend convinced her to quit. Who knows? Can only wish her well, and really, good for her if true.
Solidad ready to pick up the mantle.
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If Nina has quitted the job for good and she is starting a new life, I'm happy for her and I wish her luck.
As Suppenhuhn says, the sea is full of fishes. We just need to try to avoid sharks and other poor performing types.
But Rocket, I'm actually wondering if with a wig and some enhancements or something I would do a better job than Solida in picking up her mantle.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1653269]Can only wish her well, and really, good for her if true. [/QUOTE]Yes, good for her. I'm a little sad, but my wallet is delighted.
If I make it to Artemis on Thursday / Friday as planned, it will be only my second visit in six months. I am looking forward to sampling what's new.
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1653284]But Rocket, I'm actually wondering if with a wig and some enhancements or something I would do a better job than Solida in picking up her mantle.[/QUOTE]Buck-I thought of you immediately when the Nina story broke. I think you would do better even without the wig and enhancements. Well there is of course one problem remaining, a kind of de-enhancement, but the girls can advise on the surgery, particularly Jenna who is now sporting Everest to the left, and K2 to the right.
RB has promised to himself to retire after the 1000th post, and here he is wasting the few remaining entries left, clowning around with friends.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1653356]
RB has promised to himself to retire after the 1000th post, and here he is wasting the few remaining entries left, clowning around with friends.[/QUOTE]Fuck, I said the same thing but. Let's make at 2000. LOL.
I'm sure Buck could give a reasonable service. Ahahaha.
Getting to "serious" matters. Said you spotted Natasha recently? The ultimate 4 am girl!
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Meeting up at Artemis
[QUOTE=Nr71;1650488]Nina told me she would go home for vacation last 1 or 2 weeks of November, I met her in October.
Let's hope this is only rumours.
I'll be at Art Thursday 11th Dec, hope to see her again.
Would be nice to meet up if some fellow from forums will be there same day.[/QUOTE]I will be in Berlin on Dec 11.2014 could we meet up Artemis.
Let me know.
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A Sentimental Journey Back In Time
Guys, forgive a soft- hearted idiot (me). Nina gone :( after all these years in the business. A little skip in my heartbeat at the thought of her in the days when she was elsewhere and she was my regular multihour one. I thought she would always be there for me to drop by every few years. Never put off till tomorrow what you can do today. Guess my trip to Artemis on 11th will lack focus.
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11th
Looks like the 11th is lining up to be a busy day! I've not met anyone from the forum before. What's the form? Red carnation in the button hole?
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No hits at Artemis
Visited Artemis recently, left without getting off! It turns out I'm mainly into Germans. (see my Palace report on the re-establishment of the "German Sofa Group. ") Romanians do very little for me. And Artemis, on the night I visited, was mainly Romanians.
A few still caught my eye though. There's a pair that stations themselves at about 7 o'clock when you're facing the bar. One has frizzy hair like the beloved Judith from Oase, the other is smoother featured with straight hair, both brunettes, much taller and developed than Judith was. Anyone know who they are? I was going to swoop in on them, but then they got pulled aside by some tough-looking guys. Young guys, local-looking, but likely gang members. How could I tell? One had a cross tattoo over his eye. I don't think you exhibit anti-social behavior like that unless you're committed to that life.
There were a few more I was interested in. One might have been German -- tall, blonde with glasses and a huge back tattoo, mainly black and white, of a woman's face. The other, shorter, blonde, with glasses, seemed part of a bunch of Romanians.
Finally, there was one who looked like the pop singer Lorde, with the same sort of curly hair, alabaster skin, younger and slimmer bodied. She kept running downstairs to get drinks for what was probably some high roller upstairs though.
Speaking of upstairs, an amusing incident -- I saw three Russian guys take out six girls -- all blondes -- upstairs. The first girl came back after five minutes, and they were all out of the room within 20. All looked a bit pissed off. I never saw the guys again. I can only imagine something bad happened. Not horrible. Maybe the guys tried to lowball them and then were thrown out a back entrance? Some of the girls were clutching cash, but not a lot. I never saw the guys again. Anyone want to guess what happened? Anyone know?
A lot of turnover. Very few of the beauties I saw from my last time in town in May were missing, but that might be because it was a Sunday night. One of my old favorites, Amalia, was still there, and looking pretty good, even! She's quite the queen bee it seems, center of attention, often talking more than working. Well, if she can afford it, more power to her.
An interesting night, if only to observe the human interaction and drama.
And if you can ID the girls I had my eye on, and let me know if I missed out on anything special, please let me know! I'll be back soon enough.
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Meeting up at Artemes
I will be in Berlin from Dec 8 until Dec 18,2014 I am a newbie to Artemis is anyone else from the forum going to be I Berlin during this time period, I would like to go to Artemis with a form member to show me the ropes.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1653728]Looks like the 11th is lining up to be a busy day! I've not met anyone from the forum before. What's the form? Red carnation in the button hole?[/QUOTE]I have no idea, maybe the senior forumers have a code they can share?
I'll be at Art from about 1 am on Thursday 11th. Probably an hour or two off at the hotel early evening.
My plan is to have the usual fun, and charge in the wellness area in between. I am a big fan of the not so hot sauna.
Would be very nice to meet up with Frozty and / or others to share experiences.
I need some tips on how to find Fatima. And to spot the new Queen of Artemis now that Nina has retired.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1653728]Looks like the 11th is lining up to be a busy day! I've not met anyone from the forum before. What's the form? Red carnation in the button hole?[/QUOTE] One of the Artemis regulars who will be there on 11th has my description. Anyone wants to PM me I'll try to PM back a description before 11th.
Shurnuff as you haven't got PM it is not so easy to arrange. Don't worry about needing to be shown the ropes. All will be fine. If you want to meet up then you will need to risk asking around at the club. Have a good time.
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Too bad Nina quit. Sure a nice girl and always smile on her face. Also very good kisser.
I was at Artemis last time when it was place's birthday. I guess I forgot to report.
Anyway I met this cute blonde from Austria called Mandy. I liked her a lot and had two sessions with her. Also had fun with my so called regular girls of course. There was free beer one night, so I went pretty drunk. Was not too bad anyway. There was that brown girl called Kimi from Kenya. Had session with her while drunk. Very good indeed.
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Artemis - 01/12/2014
Back at Artemis after many years (5, I believe). It was freezing cold outside so I didn't enjoy the new, for me, outdoor area but it looks very nice. For some reason the pool was heated, perhaps somebody had the guts to bathe there at -4 see? Whatever.
After a very much needed hot shower, I sit at the bar watching the girls pass by. I notice many more blondes and no presence whatsoever of black girls from Africa nor Asians. 3 dark-skinned latinas only, 2 from spanish-speaking countries and another from Rio (who approached me but I refused). I remembered Artemis to be the most variegated of the FKK I've ever been (the others being Palace, Samya and Oase). What's worst though, is that there are too many fake lips / boobs for my tastes. I spend nearly 1 hour watching the girls and thinking that I don't really like any enough to commit to a session.
I get approached by an hungarian, Niki Bellucci she told me was here name. Brunette, fake boobs and lips, around 30 probably. Not my kind. I pass. I chat a bit with a korean guy from Toronto (Hi if you are reading this! Who get approached by a stunning blonde who gets refused and I'm too shy to ask her directly to come to me. I will have a second chance. The guy goes away too and I'm left alone, lonely, and thinking that Artemis isn't as great as it used to be. I go for a walk and a brunette signals me to approach her. Brown hair until her ass, brown skin, slender, small tits with perky nipples, green eyes, doll-faced. She is named Amina from Iran (born in Germany from iranian parents actually). She must be pretty young but I forgot to ask. She is undoubtedly beautiful. I am eager to start the day after being idle for 1 hour and I accept her invite straight away.
2 mistakes in a single move: only choosing based on looks and not asking about services.
[B]Amina[/B]
In the room Amina explains me the rules, which I already know, and I ask for simple, half an hour, straight sex. She starts blowjobbing me, which she does nicely, and then straddles me for a quick fuck. I always look for GFE so I try to kiss her, but she refuses. Ok then, I think I'll be giving her some kissing on her stunning body to enjoy it and not last very little, as I had been conserving the juices for a couple of weeks. She refuses to be kissed, not only down there but anywhere, not even on the neck or back. And I can't even squeeze her boobs, she says it's uncomfortable, but only touch the nipples. Basically we can only fuck. I feel she is completely absent then and lose my erection. She tries to get it up again with her mouth to no avail. She then gets infuriated at me because I can't fuck her, at which I try, without Amina being much willing to listen, to explain that the service she is offering is too mechanical to my tastes. I'm not enjoying it. She yells "shut up, let's fuck!" but with the current state of my penis it's impossible. She complains that if I considered kissing that important I should have asked her before going to the room (which is true) but add that no girl at Artemis kisses for 60 (which is totally false) and I should have offered her more money if I wanted that service. I try to convince her that kissing at least her body would do it for me but she insist in saying that she doesn't allow it for the standard price. She insist also that's not about money (really?) and that I'm cute so she was willing to listen to me (I can only wonder how she would have treated me if I were a old, fat guy then.).
At this point arguing becomes boring as I try to explain and she is not willing to even let me speak, so we agree to end the session there.
Service: 1.
Look: 8.
Repeat: not even if she paid me 60.
Feeling like I have wasted time and money, I take a break at the downstairs bar, just to collect my thoughts and wait for new girls to enter the club (it was about 19:00). The session with Amina also soured my mood. I need a new session soon to lift me up. When ready, at main bar, the blonde girl who approached the korean guy moves from her stool at the bar (she sits right in front of you when you enter it) to talk to me. Her huge blue eyes, big boobs perched on the bar right to me have some positive effects on my mood. She seems an overall cool girl, making jokes and being all smiley. Good vibes. Her name is Nella (could be slightly wrong but definitely it had "-ella" in it), from Hamburg. Pretty tall, blonde, blue eyes as I said, not a ounce of fat anywhere, long legs and greatly shaped, slightly enlarged boobs. A big cross tatoo between her shoulders. Nella is definitely gorgeous, she could start modelling tomorrow and not be out of place in a Victoria's Secret fashion show. This time I remember to inquiry about her services and she only refuse to kiss on the mouth but everything else is fine, even cunnilingus. Fine for me.
[B]Nella[/B]
After a brief chat about how she was happy to see an italian man with whom she can have a good conversation in english, we start doing the deed. Good but not unforgettable blowjob, cowgirl (where I can admire and fondle her perfect-but-fake boobs), and finishing in doggy. It didn't take me long as I was aroused by the session with Amina and Nella was really beautiful. Only complaint is that she didn't remove her bra (she had one of those that only cover the underside of her tits, to make them stand higher probably) as I like to see my girls fully naked. It's a very minor complaint, she was overall a nice person, smart and good conversationalist.
Service: 8.
Look: 9. 5 (half a point less for fake boobs).
Repeat: Sure.
Time to eat and relax a bit now. Food is as bad as I remembered, unfortunately. For 80 they can and should do much better than this. Anyway, I'm content with what I have had so far and only considering another session if I really click with another girl. I got to travel next morning and don't want to spend all the evening at Artemis. So after a good hour of relaxing, I feel like it's time to check out the new girls who came before 20:00 and see if there's somebody that I fancy. I see mostly the same faces but for a handful of new ones. There's a dark skinned girl, could have been turkish or middle-eastern, that has that mature eyes that I like a lot but she keeps chatting with a guy at the bar and then vanishes upstair. Shame. A couple of romanians approach me but I'm not interested in fake blondes with injected lips. Nella approaches me again with her brunette, pornstar-looking friend offering me a double session and I explain her that unless they make sex with each other also and not just taking turns on me it's not worth the money. She understands and offers herself again but I'm not the kind of guy who repeats easily (and not that soon anyway). So still more scanning the horizon for the next girl. Who actually approaches me from behind putting her right boob on my back and smiling. Nice technique! She is ukrainian, 24 years old, name is Darina and she has definitely a mediterranean look, resembling Sofia Loren or Cleopatra (which she doesn't like to be compared with, actually). Quite tall, long legs, dark, straight hair, brown-green eyes with enough eyeliner to look like an ancient egyptian queen, real but a little saggy boobs. She speaks great italian other than 5-6 more languages (english, german, spanish, romenian and a couple more I now forget). She claims to have started at Artemis by doing pole dancing but as it earned her very little she quickly switched to be a full time * In her words: "if you are going to get undressed for men, why not be a proper working girl and earn more money? I can't say I disagree. It's getting late and I haven't seen many girls as pretty as Darina so off to the room we go.
[B]Darina[/B]
She is the kinky girl anybody loves to have a girlfriend. She repeatedly says she likes me and who am I to ask if it's fake or not? She clearly enjoys my company, lets me finger her, kiss (but no DFK) and invite me to finger her ass too. Nice girl. She has definitely a good blowjob technique, alternating slow and rapid movements. She doesn't deepthroat as I'm an "elephant down there", which is definitely not true but thanks Darina for the compliment. A couple of position and I do take my time to come. She knows how to put her legs and feet around me when fucking to keep me close to her. She has a thing for jerking men or watching them cumming while she is masturbating. I comply with her wishes and let her finish me with a handjob while sucking her boobs.
Service: 8.
Look: 8.
Repeat: Probably but only if I don't find any prettier girl.
It's nearly midnight, I just now realize I've spent far too much time watching only before taking Darina to the room and I got a train next morning so I end the evening there.
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Artemis - 06/12/2014
Back to Berlin for a last evening before flying back home. I'm not too enthusiast of the Artemis on a Saturday night but hell, there are worst experiences in life than being crammed in a room half full with naked girls I guess? .
There's some sort of celebration as I'm asked to pick a sock on a Christmas tree at the entrance. It must be my lucky day as I win 3 free alcoholic drinks. I will pick Whiskey, Vodka and Gin (no ice please!) with whom I'll try to use as a conversation starter with a few girls. Unfortunately, none accept drinking on work. Their loss.
It's early than 17:00 but there are quite a few men and many girls. About the same amount of when I left on Monday at midnight. I cringe at the thought of how many people there'll be later. As I had my share of beautiful girls last time, I'm now looking for performance and will not force a session with a pretty girl that doesn't look interested in me. It doesn't take much for the first girl to approach me: a brunette with a fringe, averagely tall, smiling often and ready to make jokes, brown eyes and a nose a bit too big for her face. She is named Tatiana, a russian name as she admits but she's romanian. Shapely legs and nice smallish tits complete her figure. She hugs me at the bar, all smiles, and is very patient in waiting me to finish the drink. Not the prettiest girl there for sure, but I get good vibes and she says she's open to everything with me so, well, why not?
[B]Tatiana[/B]
I'm pretty horny so it doesn't take too long to start fucking. After a good blowjob where Tatiana attempts some deepthroating. I have saved some juice since Monday, the fear of coming too quickly is very real so I ask Tatiana if I can lick her down below, which she gladly accepts. She is moderately wet already, no lube, and seems to greatly enjoy my tongue skills. Her orgasm seems true but who knows with prostitutes. Either way, now it's my turn and I'm happy to give Tatiana a good fucking until cumming inside her.
Service: 9 (very into it).
Look: 7 (pretty but not beautiful).
Repeat: Yes.
Back below, I realize I'm extremely hungry. Still there's some time until the buffet opens so I wander at the downstairs bar. There I discover there's a football match, Bayern vs Bayer Leverkusen, soon to be aired and spent some time there. Back up, a brunette stops me and nearly fucked me there by wrapping her legs around me and putting her face half a cm in front of mine. I dribble her telling that I got to eat first. Eating is the same experience as ever during the first hour of the buffet: mediocre food, queues to get it and hard to find an empty seat all for yourself. Nevermind, I'm too hungry to complain.
There doesn't seem to be many new faces. There's Nella again at her usual spot and she signals me to have another session. I tell her "maybe later" and this time I really mean it as I first want to see all the new girls that weren't there last Monday and if I can't find any that I really like, I'll surely be back with her. She doesn't insist much, which I appreciate. A girl from Kosovo sits nearby me and try to lure me to a session. Fake blonde hair and a way too big nose in a squarish face. Not my kind. It takes a few minutes to get rid of her, even if she wasn't offensive nor rude. There's a brown-reddish haired girl, quite shor, wearing a black garter at her right leg that I fancy but she disappear with a man too soon for trying an approach. Maybe later. Then the brunette who nearly raped me spot me again and push me on the nearby sofa, letting her naked body drop over me. She knows how to make herself more attractive, doesn't she? .
She isn't exactly my kind but she has a really toned body and she seems genuinely interested in me so I accept her advances.
[B]Jazz or Chazz[/B]
Jazz is Turkish from Ankara. Long dark hair, brown skin, nice butt, pretty tall (probably around 175-178 cm), nice small boobs, long legged and with that oriental look in her eyes that make her stand out among the crowd of romanian brunettes. She takes the initiative in the room, without any complaint from me, and starts giving me one of the best blowjob I've ever had in my life. She sucks up and down while at the same time rotating the tongue over the tip of it and caressing the balls with one of her hand. Amazing. I don't wish her to stop but I want to fuck her too so I have to switch position to doggy first in order to admire her nicely shaped butt. Her skills in fucking are not that worse than her oral ones, she responds promptly to my movements and wrap her legs / feet around me as much as she can, something that drives me crazy. Nice girl. Bonus point because she cares to spend a couple of minutes chatting after the sex, despite we having been in the room for a good 20 minutes.
Service: 9. 5.
Look: 7 (8 for the body, 6 for the face).
Repeat: Maybe (her oral skills would make me say yes but she's not pretty enough for a repeat).
I'm really satisfied of these first 2 sessions. I could very well leave then and be content. But I realize that I haven't fucked a blond girl nor one that really did it for me just based on looks so I want to take a break and look, carefully, for the next prey. I'm quite tired too but nothing than a couple of drinks can't fix. At the bar there are now quite a lot of people and the smoking is unbearable. I switch position quite often between the stairwell, the main bar and the downstairs one. A thai woman, she can't be considered a girl anymore, approaches me but she doesn't do anything to me. I told myself that I wanted to try an asian girl this time but I wasn't attracted to any of the 2 I saw both days of my visit at Artemis. There are also, fortunately, quite a few more girls present: I see a couple that look very african, 2-3 more romanian, or girls that look like romanian, brunettes, a fake redhead with pointy nipples and a pale skin, a brunette that speaks some italian wearing glasses that remembers me of an italian actress whom I can't recall the name, a few ukrainian / russian fake-boobed blondes that look pretty desperate for a session, a youngish, tall, brunette with very pale skin and amazingly-shaped boobs that goes up and down between the 2 bars. I fail to see the girls with the black garter until she makes herself present to me coming from behind. She is named Serafina (or something like it), german and, unfortunately, doesn't' allow kissing. She's quite pretty but I have to turn down her offer, which she gently understand without making a sad face.
I've now spent quite a big amount of time watching people go by and I'm ready for another session. I stare at the brunette with glasses but she spend most of her time at the slot machines and chatting with a couple of guys without going to a room. There's also a 30 yo brunette, very tall and very slender, with no tits whatsoever but with a face that could belong to a L'Oreal campaign that spend a lot of time with a single man, goes to a room and disappear for a long time. I'd have had her in a heartbeat.
At some point I got so bored that I think of going home. I got a flight in the early morning and I can't waste much time still. The 3 girls that I really liked just based on looks are either unavailable or nowhere to be seen. I decide to go with the next girl that seem enjoyable and into me, no matter the look. That girl materializes into a blonde romanian, 178 cm tall, long legs, wide butt, medium-sized boobs, natural, green-brown eyes and wearing red glasses. I asked her name but immediately forgot it, unfortunately. She speak pretty good italian so we get along easily. She seems a nice person, overall, and has been at Artemis only since April, planning to stay 1 year or maybe 2, no more, before returning to Romania. The guy down below seems to positively react to her presence so off we go to a room.
[B]Unnamed Romanian Girl[/B]
She takes things very slowly, as I asked. She undresses me, which I find very exciting, and starts deepthroating straight away, on her knees. I was tired after 2 sessions and travelling for half the day but her oral skills make me hard in no time. She accepts kissing everywhere, no DFK though, let me fingers her in both vagina and ass. She straddles me with an easiness that stuns me, ride me with strength but the perfect combination of slow and fast movements. She has perfectionated the art of keeping a dick hard but not letting it cum until she decides so. I feel very jealous of her boyfriend. It would have been an amazing experience if she didn't start upselling, trying to convince me to CIM or to go for an hour. I'm not enthusiast of doing either and I must soon go anyway, but she insists. She even stops fucking to ask for CIM. I really love the session we're having and her skills, I don't want it to end so I, reluctantly, agree to do 1 hour. Cumming twice in a short time is not something that I can easily do and even with her great sexual prowess it is a bit of a struggle. I have to rely on my hand while she sucks my balls to come the second time.
Not a bad thing all things considered. Only I'd have wanted to end in a more "spectacular" way my last visit for a while at Artemis.
Service: 10.
Look: 7 (a bit of an asymmetrical face but great body).
Repeat: Yes.
[B]Final Observations[/B]
I found the Artemis changed, and not for the better. I recall DFK being quite more common and never met a girl who didn't allow being kissed on her body while now in 2 days I met 2. Perhaps bad luck. Also there are quite a few more romanians, more germans and less of farther countries (South Americans, African and Asian). There's less variety of skin colours now, similarly to what the big clubs in Frankfurt offer. Also, silicone boobs are getting out of control. The outdoor area look nice though. I wonder if people on the S-Bahn can see it as the trains run very close to it.
As for overall beauty and performance of the girls I'd put Artemis still above Palace and Oase. On par with the latter on performance but with better choice and with a lot less upselling and "sharking" than at Palace for a comparable quality of girls. If Palace and Artemis were in the same city I'd have an hard time choosing which one to go, not considering the different prices. Oase is too romanian for me.
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[QUOTE=Lucasur;1654860]Back to Berlin for a last evening before flying back home. I'm not too enthusiast of the Artemis on a Saturday night but hell, there are worst experiences in life than being crammed in a room half full with naked girls I guess? .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports Lucasur. Good job.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Serve the dinner
Christmas dinner, (and free cookies as the advent run up to Christmas), on wed 17th according to website. In Germany, the primary Christmas dishes are roast goose and roast carp, although suckling pig or duck may also be served. Me catch me a nice carp LOL! hitting Berlin Monday check travel section if anyones around. thanks sv.
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Thursday, 11 December
Ten hours at Artemis today, and it was an excellent day. The club was busy and the lineup good. Lots of options, and I spent a lot of time chatting and choosing. I saw a few girls that I had not seen for a while, including Mila, Valeska and Jennifer. I still haven't sessioned with Mila. She looks great, but something keeps stopping me. She has never approached me, which might be the reason. I have had fun with Jennifer in the past, but her mood didn't look great each time I saw her today. Valeska I like a lot, but her English is not great, so I passed. She looks a lot more confident around the place these days.
I spent some time acquainting myself with Jenna's new boobs, from a distance. To be fair, I was quite some distance from Jenna, but not so far from her boobs. I had promised myself to take her for a session, but every time I see her, I realise that she's really not my type.
Three sessions:
Claudia, Poland. 28 years, brunette, a bit toothy but a very attractive body. We took an hour. It was a good session but the (polite) upselling turned me off a little. Probably wouldn't repeat, but a nice start to the day. Claudia is only at the club for ten days, so I suppose she it keen to maximise income in that time.
Fatima. A compulsory session for me. An excellent hour ending with CIM.
I relaxed for a few hours at the downstairs bar, falling asleep listening to an audio biopic of Goldman Sachs. What else is it for? Dinner was ok, spaghetti, tomato, and some kind of meat. I suppose it's never good when you can't identify the meat that you are eating, but the sauce was tasty enough.
I then hung around upstairs for a while seeking out one more session. By now it was after 7 pm, and the bar was getting busy. Plenty of options, and I took my time before choosing. After a dozen or so approaches, I decided that Alina, Ukraine (now living in Hamburg, with occasional visits to Artemis) seemed to offer the strongest promise of chemistry. I made an excellent choice. Dyed-blonde, with a very sexy, petite body. She has quite a jaw on her, but was a delight to spend time with. I told her what I wanted and she interpreted the brief perfectly. A very good GFE, with a slow start and long, slow fuck. It was a ten out of ten session for me, and Alina seemed to enjoy it too. A definite repeat, although I am not sure how often we will be at the club at the same time.
I then washed up and attempted to head for my hotel. This was complicated by the key to the valuables safe snapping in the lock. Perhaps it heated up during that last session! It took some time for me to recover my clothes, but the staff were very helpful.
I have not visited much recently, and time away has reminded me that Artemis really is a great club. So, for me there is life at Artemis after Nina.
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Thursday Dec 11th II
I was the first guest entering the club on Thursday, felt a bit strange when I entered the lounge with at least 15 girls waiting. But the girl / guest ratio was pretty good!
This was my third visit to Artemis this fall. I recognized many of the girls, but must say there are always lots of new girls as well.
As Frozty (too bad we didn't arrange to meet up, Frozty!) I liked the lineup, I also like the calm atmosphere during day shift.
My first session was with Zoe (Ger), I love here body and service have been very good on my previous visits. Just the same yesterday, she is very professional and gives me what I ask for. 30 minutes is OK for me, sounds like she is happy with that as well, no upselling.
Second session with Naida (Bosnia / Ger), in my opinion the most beautiful girl on the day shift. Brunette, very curly hair, natural all over and no tattoes. Gave me the best session of this visit, she sucked excellent, and the rest was also very good. She looks a bit unhappy when she is in the lounge, but she was very friendly and nice to be with in the room.
Last session was with Kira (Costa Rica), a 21 yo with piercings in both nipples. I love that, and had very good chemistry with her on last visit without sessioning, so I had to do it this time. Actually she recognized me, impressing as I am an average guy. Kira did a very good job, and the chemistry between us made it even better. Hope she'll be there next time!
At night shift there were a bit too much people to me, but that's just the way it is in Disneyland for adults.
Spent 14 hours in the club, left with a big smile on my face as before.
Note to self: much better to be at Artemis on nude-days, first time for me.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1655503]Fatima. A compulsory session for me. An excellent hour ending with CIM.
[/QUOTE]Can't believe I missed Fatima!
I still don't know how she looks and who she is, guess I missed my chance yesterday.
If she is Nina-standard I sure want to find her.
Must do better research before next visit.
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Unforgettable
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the input I took from this forum before my visit to this heaven on earth. For a first timer I was in heaven for sure.
I am a regular monger in middle east scene. Germany was recommended to me by some mongers here on this forum a few years back. Thus started my long wait to visit one some day. I got few of my friends interested and so we made a plan to visit FKK Artemis for 3 nights from 8th to 10th of December.
So I have to give back for sure what I got from. I ll not put the details of how to get there and what happens inside, because its all covered and a simple RTFF can reveal everything. I ll just head in for the girls part and the experience with them.
Red head Natalie dormer lookalike Hungarian:
My first taste of pussy was a red dyed beauty who looks like a red head version of Natalie Dormer. She is from Hungary, short in height but her name escapes me. She is very easy to spot from her looks and color of hair. I took her for half hour and loved the way she looked. Much shorter after getting rid of her stilettos. When inside she kept pushing me for extras. I wasn't in the mood for anything. I just wanted to bang the hell out of her with the cheapest bang for my buck. Her service was rushed and uninterested when I politely said no for other services. Dmg: 60+10 (30 minutes + tip sorry for the newbie error).
Shaenya:
Just call her Shaeeeeenyaaaa. Hah.
I saw the pictures of this girl whose name is Sheenya on the website and she is not this blonde.
This girl whose out of the world is one of the most gorgeous women I had in my life. She gave me a perfect intro to the FKK world. Her looks her service her whole experience kept me captivated and wanting for more all the time. Well Shaenya is from Moldavia. A cups but a face to die for. She is Demi Moore and Jennifer Connelly cross look alike but more gorgeous. Has the best smile in the room and a beautiful bod. Does a great FK but no tongue strangely. BBBJ and the deed is out of the world. Was with her 120 minutes first day. Then 120 minutes with lesbian show with another dirty blonde girl. I fell in love with her and made her famous LOL. With other girls too m sure. When you meet her just go Shaaaeennnyaaa and give my name throwster and you will be in for a beautiful surprise and time I hope. We had an awesome time. She was happy with the money and me with the time and sex.
Dmg: 120+170+20 (1 hour + 1 hours lesbian + tip. Deserved every euro of mine) I took her multiple times. I want more. Just please give me more of her.
Sharon I think:
She is half German and half Moroccan. A Shakira look alike with a body of brook shields from blue lagoon. Hair from blue lagoon. Face to die for. A beautiful tan and shape of her gorgeous body makes you want her more. I took her for 30 minutes and didn't regret it. Loved the way she treated me and asked if I wanted anything more. I said no and she just carried on with business. Which was great business. Yet forgettable. Dmg: 60 quickie.
Forgot her name but she is unforgettable LOL the dilemma:
Full Romanian. Fake blonde. Tall. Beautiful green eyes. I know my description of her is not so great. And quite vague. Breasts small but nice. Soft body. Solarium tan. The girl was a complete GFE experience took care of me. We had a great time. With so many girls I thought man I underrated her but she was up there with her service and cute face. Amazing DFK, BBBJ and sex. Great hour utilized amazingly with her. I was drunk a bit. So I don't recall her name. Dmg: 120.
Joanna:
Half Romanian and half Kazakhstan.
Black beautiful straight long hair. Tall beauty. Big beautiful eyes. Looks okay from far. But when you come close to her. You will never go back. She knew 8 languages and was the kindest thing there. Smelled like a bottle of perfume. Felt like I was loving an angel. Felt like I was making love to my girlfriend. Spent an hour with her. Gorgeous gorgeous girl. You should never miss out on her. She is an hidden gem. Comes out to be a professional and no drama and all about you experience. If I loved Shaenya for her personality and sex I still rate Joanna higher for every moment I spent for her. This girl will make you feel at home. Caress you. Massage you. Love you. DFK you, BBBJ you, sex you. She will make you feel lost and the 60 or 120 or every more that you pay for her will seem petty. She is that damn great.
I was finding the girl of my dreams and here she was, but too damn late.
Dmg: meager 120. Wanted to go for more. My bad I swear.
I didn't want to leave the place. 3 nights were too short. But my penis was not ready to stand any more and I was spent. Had unbelievable awesome sex. The time of my life.
Thanks for all the info again guys. I am here if anyone needs any current info.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1655759]Can't believe I missed Fatima!
I still don't know how she looks and who she is, guess I missed my chance yesterday.
If she is Nina-standard I sure want to find her.
Must do better research before next visit.[/QUOTE]Yes, sorry we didn't meet up. I might have been the second person to arrive that day!
YMMV, but Fatima is a different punt to Nina. Fatima is a great girl, and gives great service, but doesn't give herself completely. The payoff is that once you get to know her well, the sex is sandwiched with intelligent conversation, good humour and what seems like a nice friendship. For certain she will not be in the business for as long as Nina, but I will probably miss her more when she moves on.
Although she will spend less time at Artemis, there are sure ways to find Fatima in the club. PM me before your next trip.
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Last 2014 trip for me
Spent Thursday and Friday in Artemis, I read now that other ISGers where there, tough we didn't meet. Next time.
Great vibe and lineup on both days, was a pleasure to meet up with S1423. First visit to an FKK but was acting as a real pro after ten minuts. LOL.
Also met Optimist the next day, pity we had so little time to chat.
Rest of the gang present. Good way to end the FKK year for me.
Just wanted to report on 2 new girls I tryed.
Marta. Latvia. Friend with Mila (which I sessioned with many times and recommend her warmly). Marta has long brown hair, tall, very pretty and elegant face, very nice body, small tits. One single tattoo at the end of het back. She usually sits with Mila (which is platinum blonde with long hair) on the sofas behind the bar. They both walk around very little, so you just have to go and get them if want to session with them. Anyways, Marta is at the same level of Mila. Highly recommended.
On Thursday I spotted a new girl, called Serafina. German, very very young (19 I think), brown wavy hair, very nice body. Easy to spot for her very young face. Been chasing her for a while, but she was up and down the stairs all night so gave up. Next day, as soon as she came in I picked her and we went up to a room. She is very friendly, both outside and inside the room. As usual, I did no small talk before (and this experience won't change my attitude). Basically, no kissing (which I accept), no DATY allowed (which Is off the wall for me). Boring and mono speed bbj (and the speed was not the right one for my tastes), then took her doggie for a while, calculating in my head I wouldn't come and save the pop for less crappy session. A complete waste of time and energy, but the optical part was ok. The funny thing is that she said she worked in Globe.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Last 2014 visit in Pussyland
I was in Artemis Thursday and Friday. Good line up, not so many guys and as usual very good company with some other horny guys from the forum.
Tried various girls, happy to see and taste Mila once again, back from a very long break from Artemis.
Mila: Latvian tall girl, very fair skin, I don't recall tatoos, long platinum blonde hair, about 28. She usually sits in one of the sofas behind the bar and as Kimino says she doesn't walk around much, She just gets picked up. 1 hour session.
I'd say looks 8 (I love her face, hair and big blue eyes), service 8,5.
AntoniaX2: great russian girl, my favorite of the moment, long black hair, blue eyes, fair skin (yeah I like it that way), real nice boobs, more than average body build but quite firm and in shape, around 26/27 years old. 2 sessions of 1 hour each. She kinds of hang out at the entrance of the main bar, she is active in the search of clients.
Looks 8, service 9,5.
Joanna: half romanian half Kazakistan, around 25, long brown hair and eyes, she has a tatoo on the right part of her belly, she usually stays near the pillar versus the dinner room (if we can call those things human food.). Very sweet and she makes me horny at high levels.
Looks 8,5, service 8,5.
Elena: the only disappointing session of the 2 days. Young blonde bulgarian girl with blue eyes, 20 years old, an ass a little bigger for her build, already mentioned here, she was hanging around with a lot less good looking friend. I had 2 more than decent sessions with her in the past. This time things were off, I didn't recognize her attitude and service. Completely different, she rushed things. After 20 minutes I decided to leave and save the pop. I will never repeat again. Also she is very kiddy in her way to talk.
Looks 7,5 service (this time) 3.
Ginger: new girl for me, romanian girl with blonde hair, no tattos I can remember of, tits not real but not bad, kisses only on lips she told me (without me asking or me trying some tongue action). She was sitting on a sofa with Elena. She told me to be 21 years old and she looks like it.
Not a GFE but still satisfying, I did 30 full minutes and I went for a CIM that turned out to be good. When I finished, she actually told me I had 5 minutes left and if I wanted to relax. Actually we wereover the 30 minutes already but in any case this shows good attitude. In fact she has been there for 1 month she told me, she came from Frankfurt (didn't ask which club).
Looks 7,5 service 6,5/7, might improve if taken more times but I don't think I will repeat. Well you never know.
Last girl I don't remember the name because actually when she said it to me I was quite looking at her in a very horny way so the information arrived to my ears but not to my brain.
Unnamed girl: first very young (that attracted me I admit), 19 years old, Hungarian she told me, long black hair, very nice natural tits, short girl, not a slim build (but not fat) quite natural overall, fair skin. Se was searching for clients without stop and she got a lot of them. I didn't manage to get her on Thursday but on Friday I did.
The session didn't start in a good vibe. I thought I was in a hospital or something. LOL She made me disinfect my hands, my dick and my mouth. So I was ready for another "save the pop" session.
But her starting service and attitude was not so bad and I managed to turn the session into one I could really enjoy. Also she made me really horny just looking at her plus I kind of liked her way to talk (opposite to Elena). I had one hour of great fun at the end but I think in general she could be a risky girl for a good session, but she allows normal things like DATY and body kissing / licking and she seemed responsive.
Looks 8,5, service 7, fun and horny factor (for me) 10.
That's all for this year.
Buck.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1656052]On Thursday I spotted a new girl, called Serafina. German, very very young (19 I think), brown wavy hair, very nice body. Easy to spot for her very young face. Been chasing her for a while, but she was up and down the stairs all night so gave up. Next day, as soon as she came in I picked her and we went up to a room. She is very friendly, both outside and inside the room. As usual, I did no small talk before (and this experience won't change my attitude). Basically, no kissing (which I accept), no DATY allowed (which Is off the wall for me). Boring and mono speed bbj (and the speed was not the right one for my tastes), then took her doggie for a while, calculating in my head I wouldn't come and save the pop for less crappy session. A complete waste of time and energy, but the optical part was ok. The funny thing is that she said she worked in Globe.[/QUOTE]I don't see anything funny about this. The service at Globe is the same as at any other club, sometimes good, sometimes bad. There are other girls at Artemis who work at Globe and give unexceptional service in both clubs.
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At Globe girls have to kiss and to allow DATY.
HB.
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1656093]Elena: the only disappointing session of the 2 days. Young blonde bulgarian girl with blue eyes, 20 years old, an ass a little bigger for her build, already mentioned here, she was hanging around with a lot less good looking friend. I had 2 more than decent sessions with her in the past. This time things were off, I didn't recognize her attitude and service. Completely different, she rushed things. After 20 minutes I decided to leave and save the pop. I will never repeat again. Also she is very kiddy in her way to talk.
Looks 7,5 service (this time) 3.[/QUOTE]Strange about Elena. I did her several times at World in the summer. She was amazing with real GFE. DFK, ball licking etc. Definitely the same Elena because I know she moved to Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1656052] Marta. Latvia. Friend with Mila (which I sessioned with many times and recommend her warmly). Marta has long brown hair, tall, very pretty and elegant face, very nice body, small tits. One single tattoo at the end of het back. She usually sits with Mila (which is platinum blonde with long hair) on the sofas behind the bar. They both walk around very little, so you just have to go and get them if want to session with them. Anyways, Marta is at the same level of Mila. Highly recommended.[/QUOTE]Mila. I have caught her eye a few times in the past, but she gives me absolutely no encouragement; not even the hint of a smile. The comments from you and BR suggest that this is just her way. I have only ever read good things about her, so, maybe next time.
This was also for me the last trip this year. My mid-Jan trip is planned, but I am tempted to switch to Thursday again as the lineup did appeal more than my usual Monday or Tuesday.
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[QUOTE=Oregon97;1656166]Strange about Elena. I did her several times at World in the summer. She was amazing with real GFE. DFK, ball licking etc. Definitely the same Elena because I know she moved to Artemis.[/QUOTE]Yes, strange. But I saw her a bit different myself the day before, she was not 100%. The session with me was like always so on the next day when I heard from Buck (super trusted wingman) about the super bad attitude I was shocked.
Let's just hope it was just a bad day. Reminds me of what happened with Nicole. Started off being absolutely awesome but then turned into well below average standards. BTW, rumors she's gone also (Nicole).
Kimino.
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I count as a newbie at Artemis, having been only one time before. The highlight was briefly meeting a great Artemis regular. But I was suffering from disasters with my practical arrangements and the retirement of irreplaceable Nina, best wishes to her for all her future. I know that if I had time I would have settled but I was merely amused by the hard sell I encountered by girls who assumed I was a foreign easy prey. Typical was the old trick of saying they were Spanish and still claiming so when I said they were speaking Romanian. And of course the "We are sisters" ploy, the lesbian claim and so on. It would have been ok if they had been better actresses. I met some faces I knew from World and GT. Lookswise the girls were more professional, silicone and nicely presented than I am used to, but for me there were too many hard facesI guess a result of the fact that most workers go here after working elsewhere for quite a while.
This is only like an impression from two hours and I know if I had stayed longer then I would have found the more "honest" workers who are my stylebut maybe this note will help any newbies to Artemis. Schedule at leat six or seven hours to make the best of the place.
BTW, by public transport it is only 400 metres from S bahn, and whilst it is a little dark and unpopulated apart fromthe traffic, it looks quite safe, withthe only places of doubt being verynear the S Bahn itself, so I think the chances of repeats of the reported mugging are low. Normal streetwise precautions, walk wide, watch all directions, watch for shadows, know escape route, turn arond if don't like look of oncomers, money in socks, wallet witha little money and defunct credit cards etc.
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Where are they
Hi all,
Visited the dream club last week. I went there to see a special girl, her name is heaven I write about her a couple of times a few months ago but she wasn't there. Her friend told me she left the club. I felt kind of sad / happy because I wish her the best life she can get since she's an amazing girl. I just wish I could see her once more, she's amazing! Than I looked for Iman the black Ethiopian princess but she was also away and no one could tell anything about her. At the end I had some good time with a girl called Kimi from the Bahamas, she has a body to die for and she was quiet good in room, good BJ and a tight little pussy she was a lot of fun. After a shower and some relaxing time I saw a molate girl from Venezuela I forgot her name but I sure can forget her way she fucked me In the room I had to take 2 hours break to catch my breath back, she's a total fun girl. Had at the end a great 30 minutes with the amazing Barbie doll Carrie, I think she's a marriage material, this girl is like a doll, smooth skin amazing face and the most beautiful boobs I have seen in my life even tho it was enhanced but her tits are wow. She took my breath away just from looking at her. So I had a great great time at the club but still I can't stop thinking about one girl and I think I will never stop and that's heaven, as her name she's my sweetest memory. Wherever you are hope you are happy. Can't wait for my next time. See you soon FKK.
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I spent a week in Berlin, dutifully visiting the club every night. Despite the disappearance of some gems (Annika, Nina et al.), the club continues to amaze, both with variety and quality. Even the food was unexpectedly generous on a couple of nights. Venison in a Pilsner sauce. Duck breast in a red wine reduction. I could only explain this extravagance by the spirit of Christmas permeating the owner's soul!
All in all I had about twenty sessions during the week.
One of the highlights of the stay was my deep study of Nadja (the German blonde with angel wings tattooed on her perfect body). I had three sessions with her: one vanilla, another with CIM and a third one with anal. The results of this painstaking research are: I agree with the previous reviewers. Despite looking a bit cold, Nadja provides a very honest German service (please forgive the stereotype! Without shortcuts if without passion. She's also pleasantly correct and polite even if there are tensions or disagreements. Outside the room, she greets her repeat customers with a lovely smile but doesn't pester them into a new session. Last but not least, she's one of the most gorgeous women at the club.
Of course, each visit must have its highs and lows. For me, they were:
LA SPLENDEUR DES COURTISANES:
Mila, a Russian blonde from Latvia, 172 cm tall, slim, blue eyes.
Despite being a regular of Artemis, I had never seen Mila before Wednesday. Her beautiful blue eyes instantly caught my attention as I was returning from the restaurant. Later, as I was making a circle around the counter, she gave me a friendly, innocent, sweet smile that made the circle incomplete. I introduced myself to her and it only got better from then on. I immediately felt I had a connection with this woman, and not just because we speak the same native language.
In the room she was simply amazing. Caring and skillful, flirtatious and naughty, she is a true courtesan that seduces with her mind as well as her body. I had two delightful orgasms in one hour. For me quite a rare luck.
Rating: Looks - 8, Service - 10.
And now.
LA MISERE DES COURTISANES:
Amina, an Iranian German brunette, about 170 sm tall, grey eyes.
I had had two sessions with Amina during previous visits to Berlin. The mediocrity of the service was more than offset by Amina's splendid looks and youth. I saw one or two negative reviews of her recently and resolved not to go with her. Until she laid her tall magnificent body next to me, and looked at me with her beautiful grey eyes and promised Paradise on Earth.
In the room she told me quite matter-of-factly that if I go for specials then the service wouldn't be "so cold (This should have convinced me to abort the session immediately but I said to myself: "I've been with her, and it wasn't so bad then. " and stayed bravely on. It turns out that Amina's blowjob now lasts about a minute, and that she cannot take more than five minutes of being penetrated by a member of even a modest size. So the only option left was to finish me off with a blow-job, which she shamelessly tried to substitute with the worst hand-job in my life. When I told her that it wouldn't do she said that it's the same because without CIM the blow-job ends with a hand-job! I did manage to come although sperm is too valuable to waste on a shark like that.
The funny part is that on the way downstairs she was impudent enough to say: "Honey, please don't forget about my Christmas present!
Verdict: Look - 8, Service -1. This girl, like Nicole, started out well but has become a complete shark.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1656230]Mila. I have caught her eye a few times in the past, but she gives me absolutely no encouragement; not even the hint of a smile.[/QUOTE]I had the same doubts as you but I wanted to try her. As soon as I approached her and said Hello, her expression changed and gave a big smile and talked very friendly. I was very surprised by her change of attitude versus her usual stillness and no expression face when she sits waiting for a customer. This new attitude was confirmed in the room. I've been with her about 5 times now.
Cheers.
Buck.
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[QUOTE=Nosierg;1656628]I spent a week in Berlin, dutifully visiting the club every night. Despite the disappearance of some gems (Annika, Nina et al.)[/QUOTE]Nika, the German girl, body covered with varioius tattoos and enhanced the-cups is gem? Never read a good report on her.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1656777]Nika, the German girl, body covered with varioius tattoos and enhanced the-cups is gem? Never read a good report on her.
HB.[/QUOTE]Ciao HB.
Think things are getting mixed up. Nika (Nikka) is the german girl with super enhanced boobs that was in Artemis a while back (and probably in GT before that) but now I think is in Palace (with Lulu). Tried her once and never repeated, below average. Annika was also in Artemis, covered with tattoos, part of the same group of girls, but she was great, beautyful and quite sweet. IMHO.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1656718]I had the same doubts as you but I wanted to try her. As soon as I approached her and said Hello, her expression changed and gave a big smile and talked very friendly. I was very surprised by her change of attitude versus her usual stillness and no expression face when she sits waiting for a customer. This new attitude was confirmed in the room. I've been with her about 5 times now.
Cheers.
Buck.[/QUOTE]Thanks Buck. I will leave Mila at the top of my To-Do list.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1656813]Thanks Buck. I will leave Mila at the top of my To-Do list.[/QUOTE]Frozty,
You might want to know that Mila is leaving for Latvia on the 20th of December.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1656777]Nika, the German girl, body covered with varioius tattoos and enhanced the-cups is gem? Never read a good report on her.
HB.[/QUOTE]Hessen Bub,
I have never been with Nikka since her mega boobs put me off. Annika, the brunette German girl, was beautiful and even kissed on the lips in the room.
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[QUOTE=Nosierg;1656869]Frozty,
You might want to know that Mila is leaving for Latvia on the 20th of December.[/QUOTE]Heard something from Marta (her friend), but remember nothing. You have info as when they should be back?
Kimino.
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Hello seniors,
Is Artemis pretty much dead during the Christmas holiday season due to girls going back home?
I'm want to visit but from posts it seems it will be better to go in January when all the gals are back.
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Shark-Whispering and Tragedy of the Commons
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1656777]Nika, the German girl, body covered with varioius tattoos and enhanced -cups is a gem? Never read a good report on her.HB.[/QUOTE]Actually, not true. I know someone quite well, who did write one:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1434900&highlight=Nikka[/URL]#post1434900.
All a question of timing, and striking while the mood is right. You never really know. Would I repeat? Yes, if the mood was right, but surely not by making a a special trip to FRA, so a moot point. Was the whole thing bonkers? Yep. But it was nice. Have to be wary of absolutes in this line of work.
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RB, over the past few sessions, has heard a surprising number of girls say they plan to return just after Christmas. Like the next day. The reasoning being - not so many girls will be around so it's a good chance to make some holiday euros. You can appreciate the irony that could be building up on this point. But for those who may be in Berlin between Xmas and New Year's Eve, the Bahnhoff will be chilled but might be fun.
So Buck and Kimino, if that sexual Ramadan intermezzio thing gets too unbearable (and you know it will)....
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1656953]
So Buck and Kimino, if that sexual Ramadan intermezzio thing gets too unbearable (and you know it will)....[/QUOTE]Arghhhhhhhh. I know, resitance is futile, but no way I can be up in the next few weeks.
Kimino The Monk.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1656149]At Globe girls have to kiss and to allow DATY.
HB.[/QUOTE]I met girls at Globe who didn't kiss, and one who didn't want to fuck once she got in the room.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1656892]Heard something from Marta (her friend), but remember nothing. You have info as when they should be back?
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Kimino,
Mila hasn't shared her plans concerning coming back. I have the impression that she only comes a few times a year for a couple of weeks at a time, which, perhaps, helps to keep her service as great as it is.
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1656974]I met girls at Globe who didn't kiss, and one who didn't want to fuck once she got in the room.[/QUOTE]I met girls like this in the post office, supermarket, U-bahn, and bars. But all freebies.
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1656974]I met girls at Globe who didn't kiss, and one who didn't want to fuck once she got in the room.[/QUOTE]You could have left and gotten your money back.
HB.
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Planning on hitting Artemis this weekend, who wants to meet up there!
Hi guys,
I'm planning on hitting Artemis this weekend, would be fun to meet some cool punters to hang out with a little bit in between the sessions for drinks and a chat! Anyone going there and up for that?
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First visit to Artemis
Discovered through this forum, I made my first visit to Artemis and first visit to an FKK club period this past weekend. I was not one bit disappointed. As others have stated previously, it is truly Disneyland for adults.
I read the forum quite extensively prior to my visit so I had a pretty good idea of what to expect prior to arrival. I was also fortunate enough to meet a few of the veteran forum posters who were very kind and gracious, and provided me with excellent advice. Below, in order of preference, is a list of the girls I sessioned with over a 3 day period (those with multiple sessions in parentheses). As you can see from the list, my "type" generally consists of large silicone breasts, dark / tanned skin, and fit body. Hair color is less important to me. Couldn't care less about nationality.
1) Melek (3 x).
Turkish German, long black hair, perfect soft dark skin, perfect silicone tits, pretty face and great personality, GFE all the way.
She was far and away my favorite girl at Artemis. Aside from her looks, she has a great personality which goes a long way for me when it comes to a good session. She is quite popular. You can find her between the front if the bar and the doorway. Snag her when you can, because she seems to be in constant demand.
2) Amalia (2 x).
Romanian, long blonde hair, beautiful face, Nice silicone see cup breasts, tremendous tanned and toned body, great personality, both funny and sarcastic.
Although most of the girls in Artemis have great bodies and many with cute faces, very few are truly beautiful. Amalia in my estimate was the most beautiful woman I saw in my 3 days at Artemis. She's very confident. She doesn't walk around to drum up business, and certainly doesn't need to. You can generally find her sitting around smoking or drinking a cup of coffee. My first session with her was very good but she didn't seem to really want to kiss, which kind of killed the mood for me. My second session with her was my last at Artemis, an hour and a half right before the club closed. We clicked much better this time, and it was a terrific way to end the weekend. Lots of kissing, DATY, great BJ, mutual massages.
3) Ina.
Apparently Romanian, although she told me she was from the Ukraine, tan, large silicone breasts, pouty lips (possibly collagen injected).
I really don't understand why some girls lie about their country of origin, as if we care about stupid shit like that. Anyway, had a great session with her. Lots of kissing, all positions, ended in doggy.
4) Leah.
German born, half polish / half Thai, short black hair, thin tan body with very large silicone breasts.
Good session. She'll kiss only if you go for an hour. Decided it was worth the risk and ended up having a great time. She's can often be found hanging out on a sofa with Vegas and some of the German girls. She has a good personality which goes a long way toward making it a pleasurable experience.
5) Persian German (Chaz something).
22 I believe, black hair just beyond shoulder length, has an upper lip stud ring, her English is not the best, C cup natural breasts.
No complaints regarding service. Smelled a little funny odor as I started to go for DATY and thought better of it. Tight pussy which felt nice.
6) Zoe.
Tall German, long purple hair, silicone breasts, great body with lots of tattoos (including one on her back of a gorilla fucking a woman).
She was my first session at Artemis and as you can imagine, it went very fast. She seemed very skilled, gave a great BJ and I came shortly afterward in doggy.
7) Bridgita.
Hungarian, Blonde hair, thin with large silicone tits, collagen injected lips, not the best English.
Great BJ, light kissing, took a pounding without complaint. Almost no personality, part of which is likely due to her weak English.
8) Nadja.
Straight blonde hair, little bit more than shoulder length, medium to large silicone breasts.
She's a bit of an ice queen, no kissing, almost no talking, and she does not look at you while fucking. While it's hard to complain too much as she gave a decent BJ and didn't upsell, I would have to say this was probably my most disappointing session. With her, it's kind of like having sex with a blow up doll. It's like her mind is somewhere else, which for me was a turnoff.
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[QUOTE=S1423;1657341]
I read the forum quite extensively prior to my visit so I had a pretty good idea of what to expect prior to arrival. I was also fortunate enough to meet a few of the veteran forum posters who were very kind and gracious, and provided me with excellent advice. [/QUOTE]You definitely hitted some of the best girls in Artemis, IMHO. Glad you had fun.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Shagathon
[QUOTE=S1423;1657341]Discovered through this forum, I made my first visit to Artemis and first visit to an FKK club period this past weekend. I was not one bit disappointed. [/QUOTE]A remarkable stretch. Christmas came early this year (multiple times). Some of these girls needed fire extinguishers and ice buckets after your visit. Glad it all worked out. Hope you are coping with the barren wasteland now. Remember the erotic review we discussed for those Plan B nights.
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S1423. Glad Leah didn't let you down. Thanks for the excellent clear report. I'm sure that, as a nice guy, you got the best out of the girls (no irony).
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Going to Artemis this weekend Please indicate TOP performing girls
Hi all monger colleagues,
I'm happy to be going to Artemis and spend a good weekend basically being there most of the time!! Friday, Saturday and part of Sunday!
I would really like to make good choices w the ladies. So if you can point me to some ladies that are present now that you just know perform great (nice sloppy BJ, deep French kiss- all the good stuff! That would be most helpful!
Pretty sexy ladies that don't cheat and oversell and then under perform in the room! Can it be fully avoided? Would be great with your advice, brothers!
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Peter B. I think you ask a bit much. I will respond in general terms as I am not an Artemis person.
First, even if one has a list, it is hard to find the exact girls.
Second. You are a newbie to the forum so presumably to the FKK scene, so you will be seen as passing traffic.
Third. What you get from a particular girl will depend on her mood and things like whether you have lots of money, pleasant bodily habits, and appearance (in their eyes).
Fourth. Take your time in choosing, watch how the girls interact with other customers. Remember that even in Artemis most girls need your money more than you need a particular girl.
Yes, there are some girls who are reliable performers for almost all customers. Whether they are there or not is always a matter of chance. If you read the forum there are reports and you can ask for them when you get there. Ask the reception or other workers.
The real guide is to go by your instinct. Look into the girl's eyes when you first meet her and see if she responds to you like a human being, and maybe even show some indecisiveness to see how she reacts (I. E. Does she respond to you with irritation or suddenly shut down like all power was lost etc).
I look forward to your report. We could do with more reports like S1423's very recent one.
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Too many dudes
Been there twice, both times there were x 3 dudes then ladies.
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Impressive experience
Had an unplanned 9 h layover in Berlin and decided to give Artemis a try. Friendly. Almost empty of johns around noon, girls coming in at steady pace. Wellness area is nice, sauna and whirl pool do you well in blah Berlin winter weather. Food a plenty, but not as nicely arranged as I had expected. University diner type quality. 80 eur entry pays for food and non alc. Drinks and for rooms. Gals pay 130 incl. Overnite in 10 gal room, tax and entrance fee. If you find Artemis crowded, come back another day at noon.
After good hour in wellness area, decided to check the scenery, gals approach you soon, average chubby fare, said no thank you, lots of tattoos, lots of jaded white trash. Spotted a stunner at the bar. Smiled and she smiled back, sit and chat, then up to the room. Spent 3 hours with the chick in two sessions, popped four times with this gal. Excellent talker, great life story, an educated class girl who enjoys the good life making excellent money with limited services and only with her choice of man in the room. Mish BBBJ CIM HJ cuddling massage, no fat body with beautiful tummy piercing, elegant manicured hands, superb pressure on testicles, nice changes of poses for my viewing pleasure, bambi eyes looking into mine, only my erect dick in the view of her delectable face. Nice view when shooting my sperm past her face, each drop passing my view of her face on the way up and on the way down. She suggested CIF but I thought her face too pretty for it. 24 y 168 cm 47 kg, shoe size 37, small, beautiful natural tits, narrow hip, brown curly hair, perfect maquillage, princesy fuck, beautiful idealist and high end prostitute, part time student and ex part time escort, double life, right at the tip of my dick in one instant, at the hilt in the next, as it should be.
After more wellness I spotted another stunner, 3 years younger, similar lithe pretty body, but better service. Deep throat to completion. Youngish classy face rapidly moving up and down the piston, super classy silhouette, elegant and vulgar at the time, but in every split second tender and beautiful. 3 more pops, 2 x CIM, very very very enjoyable.
Other takeaways. 1 don't pity the real pretty skinny classy gals. They make a lot of money, the stunners ceo type money. German efficiency to supply them with johns. 2 names in this forum are not helpful. Gals change, names change. Just look and pick the girl you want to inseminate, caress the sugar walls, soil the pretty pretty face. Stay cool, they need you to part with your money more than you do. 3 gals migrate towards Frankfurt and Berlin. Stuttgart for example has fewer johns tell the stunners. 4 most of the gals are not pretty, but they are needed to remind you how stunning the stunners are. 5 anal is definitely on the modern menu. Even the stunners propose, for it makes them popular and it makes them good money. Gals will love to receive covered anal, but some will not DFK.
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[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1658984]2 names in this forum are not helpful. Gals change, names change.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Maybe names not helpful but also shoe sizes or the parabolics of sperm. LOL.
Do you happen to remember the names of the gals?
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1658984] check the scenery, gals approach you soon, average chubby fare, said no thank you, lots of tattoos, lots of jaded white trash.
Spotted a stunner at the bar. Smiled and she smiled back, sit and chat, then up to the room. Spent 3 hours with the chick in two sessions, popped four times with this gal. Excellent talker, great life story, an educated class girl who enjoys the good life making excellent money
elegant manicured hands, superb pressure on testicles, nice changes of poses for my viewing pleasure, bambi eyes looking into mine, ....24 y 168 cm 47 kg, shoe size 37, small, beautiful natural tits, narrow hip, brown curly hair, perfect maquillage, princesy fuck, beautiful idealist and high end prostitute, part time student and ex part time escort, double life.
another stunner, 3 years younger, similar lithe pretty body, but better service. Deep throat to completion. Youngish classy face rapidly moving up and down the piston, super classy silhouette, elegant and vulgar at the time, but in every split second tender and beautiful.[/QUOTE]Excellent, frank, realistic and balanced report.
We need more reports like this v. "they were all 9/10 stunners" which has been proven to not be case except for grandpas in need of new classes.
Your writing style is quite well done, as it brings reader closer to the purity / filth that one enjoys with elite stunners.
Checkout my post on Zurich / Aphrodisia; similar details with 007 or Thomas Crown swank style.
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[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1658984]2 names in this forum are not helpful.[/QUOTE]I disagree. Names are helpful, as many of the girls stay for a while, be it months or years. Reports without names, on the other hand, I don't find very useful, especially when there are plenty of reports about facilities, prices and directions / transport already.
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For me, names could be helpful if there is consistent bad report about a girl. Such as upselling, bad services and etc. There are girls that get mixed reviews so I don't find going by reports all that useful since people's experiences can differ. I don't really look for girls from reports since my tastes in looks and services could be different from other punters, and don't look for girls based on reports. I generally like to take a gamble if I find the girl is high in optiks hoping for some chemistry. Also, it has to do with the fact that I visit many clubs and look for new girls so likely not find reports of them. I tend to look up reports of girls after I've been with a girl. In this case, since I'm looking up names of girls, it's where I find the named reports come in handy. Some punters may not add names of the girls if the reports get too detailed for their reasons.
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Ho's With No Name
[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1658984]. 24 y 168 cm 47 kg, shoe size 37 .... 3 more pops, 2 x CIM, very very very enjoyable.[/QUOTE]Sorry -why on earth anyone could possibly think readers of a public forum would find it interesting to know how many times a monger cums, what the are dimensions of an unknown girl's body parts and shoe size, etc. Is just beyond me. Then the Raymond Chandler writes Letters to Penthouse bit.
Come on. Guys. No names. No point in posting. If you have to drone on, and you can remember all sorts of irrelevant details, at least remember with whom. Otherwise just keep a diary. - well in the spirit of Christmas, RB won't rant on even more about it. Maybe we need a new thread for this stuff. Perhaps called "Creamworks" or something.
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While staffing began to get very lean last weekend, there are a number of new girls around and names really are helpful. And some former queens returned. E. g. Ruby (RO-I think), the tall, blond, enhanced, kickboxing lass gone at least 6 months, popped up out of the blue.
Season's best to you all.
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Details of pops and CIM beats all the tall tales of 100% 9/10 Stunners in half these posts.
It's fact that majority of gals in FKK are no better than local escorts in any major city on the planet: especially.
When airfare, hotel, taxi, restaurants factored in.
More realistic reports / with or without names is fine; just keep in mind many, many readers are spending $1000's to come see these clubs and mis-information / exaggeration hurts these users.
If gals are 5-7's say so or say gals were hotter than my 50+ obese wife v. They were all 9/10's stunners which is fiction in any FKK with 50 euro pops.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1659784]And some former queens returned. E. g. Ruby (RO-I think), the tall, blond, enhanced, kickboxing lass gone at least 6 months, popped up out of the blue.[/QUOTE]Glad she's back, thanks for reporting. Really hope I'll have a chance to meet her again, wonder how long she will stay. Any info from the ones that know her would be highly appreciated.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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SV ROCKS Berlin!
Flying in on the Monday lunchtime I was greeted by a beautiful panoramic view of the capitol with the white clouds reminding of soft white buttocks and thighs. After checking in to the excellent mid budget energie hotel Berlin city west which is around 2 km from artemis an after another quick shower I found myself outside artemis around 4 pm and ready to explore new personalities, new peachy asses and the like. It had been a year since my last visit so the desire to discover the new ones was all the more intense. The airport being a 5 hour journey from where I live in the uk tiredness was biting now but the relaxed Monday spa ambiance and 2 hours of wellness and a 30 min professional massage I finally felt ready to pounce on my first target.
It was to be team Hungary all the way today with the starter being beautiful faced 19 year old gabi from Budapest. She didn't like full on DFK but proceeded to lick my face sometimes wanting to give sometimes holding back. For the sum of 50 euros she initiated the process of placing a condomn on 2 of my fingers and with the application of some gel I then found those two fingers deep inside of her to her little squeals of delight. After 45 minutes of this playing around she then announced in the most delightful tone that she wanted sex and I did her hard doggy style. Berlin I had landed in in a glow of utter delight. Gabi had one of the prettiest faces my most important factor.
After 3 hours of food and recharging i came across the most naturally beautiful white porcelain doll who was geraldine from hungary again. after signalling her i had to wait 90 mins till she was free circulating around the stairs looking as though i had something important to do there which i didn't lol. finally i was in the room with the delightful intelligent and utterly polite geraldine. dfk was off the wall, 4 fingers deep in her pussy covered by a rubber and another in her ass for 50, i was in utter delight. spanking her hard as she told me she liked to play rough within limits, (this was to be returning theme). at one point her knees were behind her ears as i daty and her held legs firmly in place. a long list of fetishes on offer included foot fetish, ball busting, peeing. very strangely these fetishes only seem to be offered to me by the artemis girls if anyone remembers my posts from last year. i tried 50 for peeing and she went all over me in a decidedly perverted but utterly satisfying display. after a hard doggy pounding she said i was intensely intense in the 1.5 hour session and that she would have not judged me of of being the type from my outward appearance. the plane carefully taxied into the hangar lol!!
i returned on wednesday and straight away after the wellness i was back for another hour with porcelain doll geraldine. i just wanted to stick 4 fingers deep in her and see her reaction after a little sex this time i finished with a nice cim. it was not as intense a session as on monday but still very nice. never as good as the first time as sade said i dont know? after more wellness and spotting a lovely blonde haired blue eyes germnic type she introduced herself as sophie she spoke only german, but i managed to figure out it was her first day in the club. the communication barrier ad the means by which we tried to overcome this proved to be a great comic ice breaker. she looked like a certain princess only that sophie was blonde. one hour in the room again very nice. i gestured to see if she liked her ass slapped and she said hard and with deep passionate dfk, hard pussy rubbing on my uncovered dick without penetration it was the perfect gfe. in fact no girlfriend in the real world could have provided a better gfe than the one sophie had given me in artemis!! figure that out lol. with a good doggy style sex the afterglow lingered. the girls had told me about their real lives but i know not to include that here.
The final session on wednesday should have gone well bit failed to take off for reasons still beyond me. tall blonde german neela or nela very pretty. 30mins with cim but just couldn't get myself aroused enough to do her properly. was it me or was she just too robotic regardless of her angelic face?
arrived friday around 5pm and i was still fixated by nela so i was determined to get it right today. she was so pretty. we agreed on an hour but the same thing happened i as okay with bbbj but the minute the rubber went on i lost the drive. we repeated this process over and over. i couldn't fault the girl she tried and tried. was it because she didn't kiss? we finished by an oil drenched hand job from heaven which was some comfort not just physically but psychologically. she did say some strange things at the end regarding std testing for the girls which didn't quite see right and which i don't wish to expand on. i would say to members definitely put her on your radar as ymmv compared to mine. maybe just one of those things. i needed a change now so took a taxi to the weekend night club in alexanderplatz and danced the night away.
i decided to omit saturday and exchange it for the more relaxed sunday ambiance. my budget covers 4 lots of 12 hour days with around 10 hour room time. im convinced alot of these girls are bored shitless of the same vanilla sex repetitive process as can be deducted from my exchanges with the girls. i arrived on sunday around 5pm feeling slightly let down by friday's lac lustre session and was secretly hoping deep down that sunday would rock. i only get to do these trips 2/3 times a year so the urgency for ecstatic sexual interplay is ever the more pronounced and accute here. lol. There was a girl oustandingly sexy and beautiful with blue eyes and a brunette pony tail by the name of eila or eeela i cant quite remember. she said she was half hungarian half arab. we agreed for an hour. when that ponytail came off and her hair flowed naturally oh wow what a flower, what a gem. the session started very smoothly with light dfk, bbbj with her very sight turning me on. optiflick or whatever they are called. as she realised i was no 5 minute guy and that my sessions were quite full on she said that she wanted to reduce the session to half an hour. as she moaned it went back to an hour and this lack of clear guidance continued. the rubber went on and we had lovely doggy style sex with her moaning in delight. she said i had finished on 29 mins but would not say why the idea came about to come down from 60mins to 30mins. the rest of the time in the club she seemed to not want to eye contact me. very strange but i had had my wicked way and treated her like the true minxy vixen that she was lol!!
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SV in Berlin (continued) PART 2
PLEASE READ THE POST BELOW THIS ONE FIRST. THIS POSTING IS PART 2 OF MY TRIP REPORT.
After 2 hours of swimming and wellness in the outdoor heated waters whilst it rained and use of the saunas etc I was down to my last two sessions before my flight home on Monday the next day. There had been a girl with bleached type blonde hair of whom I had wrongly assumed that she might not be that interesting to talk to. Within a few minutes of interchange I realised how wrong I was and that alongside gerladine she was one of the most delightful and intelligent girls I had come across in this fantasy house. She told me all about her life her studies etc. We chatted like friends for an hour then I roomed her for an hour. Another one of these rough play chicks who requested a firm ass slapping with the result of a baboon type thing in the end LOL. Squeezing her tits hard and on telling her if I spank her too hard that she should let me know. She responded by sarcastically telling me in a joking way to shut up man implying that if anyone was going to get slapped too hard that it would be me on my ass LOL. A hard doggy pounding and she rocked me with what I needed and was looking for. I can remember her real name that she told me but for the life of me her artemis name just isn't materalising in my mind. To describe her I would say look for a girl with the brightest blonde bleached hair neck length with a very white pale skin colour complexion. To conclude at 410 am I took princess sophie,(from Wednesday), for a 30 min quick doggy sex and CIM where both of us enjoyed her gagging on my dick!! lol. The amazement of Sunday had neutralised the plain jane experience which was Friday. A total of 6 girls and 8. 5 hours in the love rooms. Thanks to all again and my next trip early summer.
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By these two reports alone, SV has redeemed himself for the 200 newbie questions he previously posted.
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Two days in Artemis
I was on my way to New York for the holiday season and decided to stop in Berlin for two days to Monger in peace.
A few observations, this time unlike my previous visit in June the girls in Artemis were fully nude, and I prefer that to girls clad in lingerie. Secondly I think some other venues are much nicer, Golden Time in Vienna for example, in Artemis all the girls congregate around the bar which is very very very smoky.
Anyhow after reading some reports, I had to try a Middle Eastern girl, and I forget her name but I tried a German / Lebanese girl, she does not like any exploration of her anal region, but she was otherwise great.
However over these two days I had 4 sessions with Cynthia, a German / Greek girl. She is very nice an no holes are barred. She has a slightly darker skin tone, darker than the Lebanese girl who looked very white but I knew was Arab from her large ass, has black hair and wears glasses.
She really tries he best and does not rush you. It was not that busy and I had a good session with all the girls I was with during these two days.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1660123] she did say some strange things at the end regarding std testing for the girls which didn't quite see right [/QUOTE]You said you don't wish to expand on it. But then why mention it? It seems like the sort of thing you should expand on, for the benefit of anyone reading.
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German beauty
I think she was just telling me about how the doctor's checks work at the club but she talked in quite a cold and clinical manner. There was nothing strange really about what she was saying. She's a lovely girl but for some reason the chemistry just wasn't there for me. I would recommend her no problem as others may have more luck.
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Weekend before Christmas
Hola all of you guys here!
I have had the pleasure Reading posts here for a while and I thought I should also contribute. Had the opportunity to visit Berlin and Artemis the weekend before Christmas. Not too many girls present, but as you know you can have a nice time anyhow.
Gabriella (Polen). A very nice girl next door. Straight, black shoulder-length hair. Black waist-band. Skin somewhat toward the pale side. Sits often immediately to the left when you enter the bar room. Very good English skills and nice to talk to. I went to the room with her twice. First time LFK and a good GF experience, the second time DFK, and very good GF6. She asked me if a wanted extras, but when I declined she said "OK" and no more upselling. Just a plain question. She starts by lying down on the bed, body to body and kissing. Then on to a good BBBJ and then my turn to taste her. Did DATY for a long time and she really enjoys it. Fucking in several positions until the 30 minutes had ended and left the room both times a happy man.
I spotted a girl I wanted to know who is. Very beautiful, tanned skin, medium tall without shoes. Maybe German. A small tattoo on one of her breasts. Pony tail (a bit wavy), big circular ear-rings, stylish make-up. I would say the most beautiful I saw there. Friend of a tall, blonde, thin German girl from Hamburg wearing a pink waist-band.
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1 weekend, 15 girls, 1800 EUR. Here's the story.
I was at Artemis Friday, Saturday and Sunday 19-21 Dec. It seems the Holiday season already meant girls had left on vacation. There were some top ladies there, but based on chats with some of the ladies and other guests it seems it was not the best time to be there. I had a few top-top experiences, but also some less-than-average, and a few downright poor ones!
Friday:
Arrived at Artemis around 23:30 Friday evening, showered, on with the robe, and entered the bar. I'd been there once before about a year ago and this time I read the forum before going also, and I was sort of intent on trying to avoid poor experiences, and really go for the top ladies. I have to say my record for the weekend has been very much mixed.
I thought I would try something special for the first round, so I decided to take it easy to start with and look around. A good approach, but only if you use the time to select wisely I had the idea of a trio, but instead of going out asking some of the supposed top girls I'd read about on the forums if they had a friend, I waited for it to be offered to me. And maybe about 00:30 or 2 blond German girls with enhanced tits who both live on the same street in Berlin, Laura and. Can't remember the name of the other one. We went downstairs to start in the kino. This was just absolutely horribly poor experience, they were both so incredibly fake and intent on just doing as little as possible to get the time to pass That became clear to me after just a few seconds. They had lied at the bar, saying they were going to kiss, they complained if I massaged lightly the nipples (I could just rest my hand on the breast, nothing more could be accepted! So since it was my first round I just decided to fuck them slowly one at the time to at least enjoy their decent bodies in a purely mechanical manner for a Little while. They were wondering why I was fucking them slowly, and as the 30 minutes were up I straight up told them I had been extremely bored with them. Cost 120 EUR, Vote: 2! (Simply because they were not too ugly. Service: 0).
So, I'd not yet cum, but 120 EUR was a Little much, so now I thought I'd switch to one girl at the time, and found Bridgitta in the bar, she is a Hungarian blonde with big tits, pretty face, big lips. We walked to the porno kino downstairs, she gave me an average blowjob, then we went to one of the rooms close by. Since I hadn't come yet, I just fucked her slowly to last just a Little bit, she asked me if I wanted to come in her mouth. Since I hadn't come yet I told her yes, and that she should spit it out on her tits afterwards. She said she understood, then as I came I asked her to quickly turn around take my cock in her mouth, she did and I came, I shot a very big load in her mouth. And asked her to spit it out on her tits for some porn effect, but she didn't, she spat it out in tissue and threw it in the bin, so I was a Little annoyed by that, since she had clearly understood what I was asking for, so. Anyway, no special session, just average. Cost: 110, vote: 5.
Then I took it easy for a bit, spoke briefly to various girls, amongst them a couple I'd read good things about: Melek and Ina (I'd actually been with Ina a year ago, and she was great. So really poor decision on my side to not repeat it turns out! And I also spoke briefly to Bella that I was with a year ago. I just find her so attractive.
Around 3:30 I sit on a couch right by the bar, a tall and almost muscular big tits girl with a nice attitude came and sat by me, I asked her. "and you are. " she replied "hot" and we both laughed! Cindy is her name. Then we had a nice conversation, she has her own hairdresser salon in another German city, and only comes to Artemis a few days a month. She is 37 or 38, so you can call her a MILF. But very toned, full of tattoos, long dark hair. We had a great time and at one moment without thinking at all, my hand started caressing her thigh, we spoke on, then her hand caressed mine. It was still a conversation, just a lot of fun, we were both laughing, she is really entertaining, she has a very strong character. At some point she came a Little closer, and asked me if I wanted to do something and I sad "are you crazy?" she looked at me wondering, and I said "obviously I want to! And we laughed Again. She asked me if we should go somewhere or just start right there on the couch, I didn't even answer before she started kissing me deeply with tongue and everything. Then we went to the porno Cinema on the same floor as the main bar, started kissing deeply while we were both standing on our knees, she fondled my cock that was getting rock-hard by now, then I pushed her down and asked "can I?" she smiled "yes you can" - then I licked her pussy for 10 minutes, her pleasure gradually increasing, you could see she was very focused and really in the zone. Slowly she came closer and closer. Until she came in a great orgasm! You know how sometimes women push you away with their hands when they orgasm after oral sex? At the climax she was pushing my head away, not so hard, and I just pushed the other way to lick her more, more more!. Then she continued cumming, and pushed me harder away, but as long as she was cumming I licked her deeply and intensely, until she pushed a Little harder, then of course I let her rest. It was a pretty intense orgasm she had, and she then joked "but I don't have any money". She sucked my cock really nicely for maybe 5 minutes and asked "how do you want me", I just pushed her down on her back, and fucked her hard in missionary, and then she came up on top of me, she rode me for a bit I smacked her ass pretty hard, I threw her around in a doggy style. There was just no doubt that she was fucking with pleasure, I was in great shape at this time, filled her up fully with my cock, owning her fully. And it was just great, intense fucking for maybe 15 minutes from when she had her orgasm, so that was actually quite a long and intense fuck. I came and then we chatted some more, it was now around 4:30. I think we effectively spent around 45 minutes in the porn kino, I'm not sure what she actually wanted to charge me since there was a lot of social time and me licking her to an orgasm. But since the experience had been so fun and sexually fulfilling I of course just paid her for an hour, saying "I think that was around an hour" and she is sweet, and said "it was certainly not more than that", I think she would've settled for 60 because time was spent on her pleasure, but I wanted to reward the sweet and fun Cindy. . We both showered and met in the bar for a final drink before the place closed at 5:00.
Just rare to have so much fun and such great sex. Not sure how useful this is to other visitors, since Cindy is not there so often. Bit of you run into her, I highly recommend her, if you are not scared by girls with a strong character, of course. Great personality!
Cindy: Cost: 120 EUR, vote: a solid 10!
Then I went back to my hotel for some sleep, but maybe due to the excitement I didn't sleep until 6:30.
Saturday:
I woke up too early, already around 11:00. Wasn't really rested, but went to Artemis anyway. Arrived a bit before 12:00, had breakfast, and started thinking what I should do to get as much as possible out of the day. ("go only for the top girls, try to speak to them before going to the room, really try to get a feeling for whether or not they will perform etc. Etc. " But still, results were mixed for Saturday, some GREAT experiences, and some really poor ones! First one of the GREAT ones:
To start the day I moved around in the Club a Little bit, I was constantly approached by Ayra from Thailand, maybe around 35, short, not pretty, spoke English to me insisting her service and massage skills were great, but I rejected her 2 times in just a short time.
Then I met Limassol from the Dominican Republic, she has such a pretty face, I'm guessing she's around 25, nice girl, bubbly personality. We met in the porn kino downstairs. It was just a very good session, with a nice blowjob, I also gave her good oral sex, really trying to make her cum, but I didn't continue long enough (sorry Limassol, I guess I was a little selfish) because I was eager to get more of a blowjob from her. She was just good, very very pretty, sweet and fun.
Limassol: cost: 60 EUR, vote: 9, she is certainly recommended!
Then I relaxed a little bit in the bar area downstairs, Ayra came by again, I rejected her again. Since I slept so little in the night, I fell asleep, and as I woke up maybe 40 minutes later or so. Ayra came again. "oh, I will give you a good massage and good service, you just relax". And since I was tired and a little groggy from sleeping I figured "what the hell, she might give a good massage". But I was not in Artemis for massages, so I had her suck my cock, which was very boring, then I fucked her very hard for a few minutes, she couldn't take it. That was 6-7 minutes into the session, and I realized I'd wasted 60 EUR, because her massage was also complete shit. Just avoid her, she is a total waste of time. Made very sure to not cum with her, as I wanted to cum only while having good experiences!
Ayra: cost: 60. Vote: 1 (yes, very, very poor experience! Not exciting at all.).
Still sleepy from the day before, I rested some more before starting to move around. I'd noticed that Bella had arrived and decided it was time to repeat my experience from last year! So as I was sitting in a sofa in the bar upstairs, I waived her over, she came to sit by me, she speaks Spanish, I speak a couple of latin languages, but only extremely rudimentary Spanish, so we communicated in 3-4 different languages a little randomly. Cindy from Friday was a 10, and completely deserves the 10, I could not ask for more from Cindy in any way, she was great! But. The experience with Bella was quite simply better than anything I've ever done in a FKK. In my eyes she really looks a lot like Pamela Anderson, and she is extremely sweet and playful. Blowjob was just nicely wet, soft and yet fast and intense, just perfect. Sweet tongue-kissing. Then I licked her pussy, she became really wet, it was just great. Then she rode me cowgirl, she completely took control for maybe 5 minutes until she came in a great orgasm. There is just no question that it was a real orgasm, no doubt at all. The way she rode me I can't really describe, it was amazing. She really knows how to move, she clearly managed to use my cock to satisfy herself, she really found her angle, and boom. We were looking each other very intensely in the eyes while she was working herself up towards the orgasm, you know the "funny" kind of "tormented" face you make when you are fucking and enjoying it intensely? We both had that for a god portion of the whole session. I fucked her in 3 positions. I was so fascinated by her beautiful tits that I decided to cum between them. So I drove my dick in between her huge tits, she put on oil, squeezed them together, and I came. Great orgasm for me, very intense and long. The session with Cindy was amazing, but this was the peak of the visit for me, and I regret that I didn't repeat with Bella while I was there, she is so sexy, sweet and into having sex. Best pay-girl I ever fucked. No upselling at all, just a great session. What a girl. Wow!
Bella: Cost: 60, vote: 10!
Spent a little time looking around, relaxing a little in the cineman bouncing a few girls. I spoke briefly to Iman, didn't go with her immediately, she took that as a rejection, which it most certainly was not. For now I just noticed how hot she is! A year ago I'd been with Brianna, the tiny, tiny Spanish girl. Twice, even. I had pretty good memory of her, so I let her seduce me again. It was in the Cinema downstairs, she gave me a high quality blowjob. But she was quite nagging, trying to upsell CIM, I said I didn't want it, she was complaining when I wanted to fuck her, because that meant taking my cock out of her mouth, she tried sell CIM again, I didn't want it. So I just enjoyed her "mechanically" a little bit, not a particularly good session. Her blowjob technique is good, but she is too nagging. So I chose not to cum, to save myself for other sessions.
Brianna: Cost: 60, vote: 6 (Good blowjob, could be a great session if she wasn't so nagging and insisting on upselling).
Back Upstairs I saw a blond Columbian girl I'd met earlier, Jennifer. Sweet face, I had a good feeling about her, so I gave her a chance. Again, in the Cinema downstairs, but this was a very poor experience. I actually knew it like 10 or 15 seconds into the blowjob. It was not super-super bad, but just not intense, wet, deep or what will you. Just very plain. We went into the room, she complained that I filled her up too much, she complained that I didn't cum already 12-15 minutes into the session. So with all the complaining I made a point of looking at my Watch and be sure to fuck her until the 30 minutes had gone by. And she complained about that. Kiss was a joke. Just not a good session.
Jennifer; vote: 4, Cost 60.
I had noticed Lorena from Colombia before, she had really been selling me her service, I was just fascinated by her rack: big tits on a small frame, she is small, young and fit with big tits. When she stands with her back turned to you can see "side tit" on both sides, it looks great. So when she came to me again, I waived her over, and we went upstairs. I was hoping for something very special, but it was a "decent" session at best. I think with her it could never become anything special, because it was just obvious that she has a program that she follows, orders the client around "now, move like this, now lie here, now suck my tits, but don't really suck the nipples, only very lightly, now do this, now do that, no I don't like this, I don't like that. Bla bla bla". Average blowjob, but she has a nice body, very nice tits, and as I took her doggy style I really noticed how great her tight little ass looked as my cock went in and out, and she did manage to take a pretty decent pounding, from behind, that was one thing she didn't nag about. She is a friend of Jennifer, and it was at least better with her than with Jennifer. Just too mechanical.
Lorena: vote: 6 (Cost 60,. Not sure why I'm putting the cost in but there you go.).
So in between these sessions I'd of course been talking to a bunch of girls, and bounced many. I went to sit for a bit in the porn Cinema downstairs (I like to do that to see if one of my "target girls" happen to come by, that gives me a chance of being "seduced" by a girl that I really want to go for). The Black girl, Iman, that thought I'd rejected her earlier was there with a couple of girls that I'd rejected outright during the evening. They went into a "nagging concert" saying "ah, you are Young and tall, maybe you have a big dick and you think you are cool, but you will also become old and bla bla bla bullshit. " then they started talking about circumcision amongst them, and Iman asked me "and you big guy are you circumcised?" I said no, so she started saying "ah, then your dick probably smells" I said "no, because I take a full shower washing my cock carefully between each session". She said she didn't believe me and said it was disgusting not to be circumcised, but then asked if she could smell my cock. Iman has such a fucking hot body, extremely sexy eyes, and even though she had been nagging I could clearly feel she had a bubbly and funny character, so I said yes, you can smell my cock, well knowing that once she found out it was nice and clean she was probably going to ask if she could take it in her mouth. . Which is exactly what happened, and I'd already decided I'd say yes, what followed was a session on par with the one I had with Cindy. Iman really, really enjoys a good, large cock, after our session she told me about her personal sex life, and without going into the details it's clear that she is someone who really enjoys sex. So when she got hold of my big cock she looked at it with fascination, grabbed it hard, looked at the dick-head, and sucked it just great, still in the porn kino. Then we grabbed a small room inside, I started licking her pussy, hoping to make her cum, but she said she didn't cum easily, so we started fucking in various positions, switching to blowjob a couple of time, it was so fucking intense, she was really into it, and I finished with really hard fuck in doggy style. The last 30 seconds I was fucking her really, really hard, she took it like a champ. Afterwards she did say "oh, you reached all the way up here (pointing to her belly somewhere), while you were fucking me it didn't hurt, it was good, but now it Hurts juts a little bit" But she was happy about our session, and this was another one of the 3 really, really good sessions I had. A shared 2nd place with Cindy. Only the session with Bella was slightly above this one.
Iman: cost: 60 EUR, vote 10!!
A few hours before the session with Iman I had witnessed a girl named Fana give a nice blowjob to a guy in the Cinema downstairs, I was just openly looking at her and smiling while she was doing taking his cock all the way down, she was smiling at me while sucking the guy off. And remembered me, so during the evening she approached me a couple of times at the bar. Fama is maybe 35, quite average looking, looks Romanian. She is really nothing special. But what I saw made me think she was a good cock sucker, so I said to her "wow, you really sucked that guy off nicely". She said "yes, blowjob is my specialty". I had rejected her a couple of times, but after the session with Iman she came to me close to the porn cinema on the groundfloor, and I went with her quite quickly, maybe already 20 minutes after I came inside Iman's wonderful pussy, I had of course showered quickly, and my cock was in Fatas mouth. My idea was to receive a relaxing quality blowjob, for maybe 15 minutes before fucking her a little, but after 5 minutes of sucking she started giving me only a hand job, I tried to get her to suck it, but maybe she'd been sucking so much cock her jaw was tired. So I fucked her a little, took her quite hard doggy style while we were both facing the entrance of the porn cinema, which was enticing because various girls (and mongers) appeared in the door to see us fucking, stood there for a few moments and went away,. The session was so-so, so I decided not to cum this time, thinking I was going to do one more Saturday night but it was late, somehow I didn't find other girls Saturday night (although Ina was there. What a mistake that I didn't session with her.). I started feeling tired, and around 4 it seemed to me that many girls had left, there was no intensity, so I went back home thinking I'd save some energy for Sunday. I slept earlier, already around 4:30.
Sunday.
I woke up at 10:30, and felt I'd rested enough. Was in Artemis at 11:45. So this was Sunday the 21st December. I guess just not a good time to go to Artemis, I think because it was a Sunday and because it was 21st December. Not many girls, but of course also only few mongers.
I'd of course had 3 great sessions so far, but I was hoping to do 2 more top-top quality sessions on Sunday, so I wanted to be really, really picky. So that ended up costing me 2,5 hours. And I had to leave at 18 to catch the flight back home to Stockholm. Shiva came over to me, she has a decent rack but is a little short, and didn't really turn me on, so I bounced her. But selection was thin. I spoke to an older gentleman who comes to the Club regularly, I asked he if he knew if any of the girls that were present offered a good service.
Jenna was there, with her huge tits. So I asked the guy about her, he'd never tried her, but said he'd been told she offered a good service. So. I figured none of the top girls I'd really like to go with are here, so let's take a trip to silicone valley. I went to sit Next to Jenna, she seemed fresh enough. Her face is not exactly the prettiest, and when you get close to the tits you can see some very "un-natural" looking Things about them, the shape and so on. But still, they're fucking huge, so I thought "let's try this": we went downstairs to the porn cinema there, on the last row, I stood up and she sat Down and sucked me off, then of course I had to try to titty fuck her. Which was actually very, very nice despite all the silicone! It felt great to just squeeze my cock in between the tits and fuck them slowly. Then we went into the room, she sucked me off again, I mouth fucked her a little bit, she took it great. Then into doggy style, and when we did that she actually looked really hot in the mirrors, her tiny little ass looked gorgeous and of course the big tits looked great in the mirrors while I fucked her from behind. The ending was great: she rode me cowgirl, and I carefully positioned myself so I could see her bouncing up and Down in the mirror while she was leaning forward enough so her giant tits were touching my chest, and my face was very close to hers so I could hear her moaning and do a little French kissing. All of this at the same time, so that make me cum very intensely, with my cock buried deep in her pussy!! The quality of that orgasm was very high!
So about Jenna: she was sweet enough, but no great connection emerged. She has giant tits, and she is actually quite sexy once you get in bed with her (somehow more attractive while lying taking it doggy style than while sitting in the bar.), quite good sexually. Above average blowjob (but not spectacular).
Jenna cost: 60 EUR, vote: 6.
In the bar I noticed a tiny girl with huge books and a pretty face. I had a feeling she was not going to perform nicely, so I tried to send her looks and she how she reacted, and how she interacted with the other girls, and actually she seemed like a nice girls with good energy around her. So about an hour or so after fucking Jenna I waived her over. Cheyenne is her name, "Milan" tattoos on her back and we went into one of beds on ground floor, close to the porn-kino. Good blowjob, nice attitude. After 5 minutes of blowjob I took her doggy style. I managed to keep going for maybe close to 10 minutes (I was starting to feel the effect of the fucking over the last couple of nights). I started really pounding here, and even though she is so tiny (I think she must weigh even slightly less than 45 kilos, she is really skinny and not very tall), she took it like a champ, and I had another good orgasm. This session was not so long, after 20 minutes we were out of the "tent".
Cheyenne, cost: 60 EUR, vote: 8.
Now I was really tired after the 2 previous nights and 2 shots so far this day. Shiva came over again, we spoke a little about why I was rejecting her, I explained that she had been selling it pretty hard, and my previous experiences from these 3 days is that girls who try to really sell it usually don't deliver. Anyway, she managed to convince me to give her a chance. Since I'd just seasoned with Cheyenne I told her I needed ot relax, so Shiva said "then give me a nice massage in the porrn kino" So I ended up massaging her nicely for 20-30 minutes, she really enjoyed it. Then she took my hand and let me Down to the porn-cineman downstairs. And we started kissing. I didn't tell her, but she tasted like an ashtray! Not so charming. I guess she must be a chain smoker. But her blowjob was really, really good (once I made her adjust a little. In the beginning she was just sucking too hard). I think she was really intent on proving that I had made a mistake in rejecting her, so maybe she put an extra effort into the blowjob. It was certainly good! But. After all thie action my little dude had seen over the last few days, I started having trouble keeping it hard, so I ended of jerking off and cumming on her tits, although there was not much cum left.
Shiva. Cost: 60 EUR, vote: 7 (blow job quality: very good, a 9 - but she loses point for tasking like an ashtray! And her looks are so-so, so that costs another point. Tits are actually real, though, and they're quite nice!
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[QUOTE=PeterB;1662394]I was at Artemis Friday, Saturday and Sunday 19-21 Dec. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. A few new names for me. Also proof of YMMV as I have always had good sessions with both Jennifer and Shiva, although I've not been with either for a while.
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Thanks for your fantastic report, Peter.
I think maybe Ayra is Irish from Philippines.
Your Bella could be Belle. Bella is another girl from Turkey.
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I appreciate your report, Peter!
Fana is hungarian, by the way.
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Nice report but unfortunately I couldn't recognise even one of the girls you have mentioned. But anyway.
Thanks for sharing.
Regards.
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Oh my, Polish Cindy. Great girl. Last time I fucked her must have been at Palace about 10 years ago. Glad to here she didn't lose the skills she acquired at good old sunken Atlantis.
HB.
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Cindy. HB thanks for making the link: I would have missed the connection Unbelievable. I only managed one session with her in Atlantis. And to get that I had to wait several days for her to be free from her queue of regulars. Even on a half-hour session to an unknown foreigner she provided outstanding service and was a really nice woman.
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[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1662620]Thanks for your fantastic report, Peter.
I think maybe Ayra is Irish from Philippines.
Your Bella could be Belle. Bella is another girl from Turkey.[/QUOTE]Bela is the blonde girl from Cuba; she isn't so young and she's very similar to Pamela Anderson and in private she's like a devil! Very cool! It is difficult ti see her in the bar, because she is always at the first floor.
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Hello fellow mongers, I'm think of a trip to Artemis, since it seems to one of the most popular club in the forum. I've heard lots about it, but since I live in France, so cities like Koln, frankfurt are easier to reach. To Berlin, I need to take the plane.
I'm not sure if it's worth to spend almost the whole day on road and just to visit the club (I've been to Berlin, so no need for sightseeing). And how good is Artemis comparing to clubs in other cities?
Any comments are welcomed.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1665076]Hello fellow mongers, I'm think of a trip to Artemis, since it seems to one of the most popular club in the forum. I've heard lots about it, but since I live in France, so cities like Koln, frankfurt are easier to reach. To Berlin, I need to take the plane.
I'm not sure if it's worth to spend almost the whole day on road and just to visit the club (I've been to Berlin, so no need for sightseeing). And how good is Artemis comparing to clubs in other cities?
Any comments are welcomed.[/QUOTE]Hello Faceless78.
First off, before I get flamed by pro-Artemis fans, I am just going to give you my opinion for your particular situation. I must also state that I do like Artemis, but only when I am in Berlin. Personally speaking, the German FKK setups are pretty much the same. Artemis is a very good club, but you will be paying more for the flight, the entry fee, the girls (60 Euros / half hour), and for your time. I have always said, from the point of view of the traveller, that TIME is your enemy. Also recently, the departure of the top providers such as Nina, and the German sofa group for the PSE experience, the club has a void. Fellow members, please chime in here. During my last visit, a few months back, I did not experience any superstars there. I actually thought the lineup had gotten worse. There were many more out of shape women there than I remembered. I don't know if you can attribute that to the abundance of food they serve, or what. There are many more fit girls in Frankfurt and the NRW. That is just my honest opinion. If you have never been to Artemis and you want to check it out, by all means. If you are just looking to bang, then you will have more than enough choices in Frankfurt and NRW.
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1665114]Hello Faceless78.
First off, before I get flamed by pro-Artemis fans, I am just going to give you my opinion for your particular situation. I must also state that I do like Artemis, but only when I am in Berlin. Personally speaking, the German FKK setups are pretty much the same. Artemis is a very good club, but you will be paying more for the flight, the entry fee, the girls (60 Euros / half hour), and for your time. I have always said, from the point of view of the traveller, that TIME is your enemy. Also recently, the departure of the top providers such as Nina, and the German sofa group for the PSE experience, the club has a void. Fellow members, please chime in here. During my last visit, a few months back, I did not experience any superstars there. I actually thought the lineup had gotten worse. There were many more out of shape women there than I remembered. I don't know if you can attribute that to the abundance of food they serve, or what. There are many more fit girls in Frankfurt and the NRW. That is just my honest opinion. If you have never been to Artemis and you want to check it out, by all means. If you are just looking to bang, then you will have more than enough choices in Frankfurt and NRW.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Sounds quite convincing, now I have no more desire to Artemis now hah, maybe when I happen to be in the city I'll try. You are right, clubs in hessen and nrw are already more than enough for me, better stick to them.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
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Brief visit
This was back in November. Had a few days in Berlin so of course I had to visit.
It was my second time visiting Artemis. Tried it out on a Friday and a Sunday.
The Friday (Nov. 7) was packed, loud, and smoky like many here have noted, which is okay, but the disrespectful attitude from some of the guys put a damper on the mood for me. Also, I happened to walk into Artemis just in time to see Avril by the lock boxes yelling "get me my money" over and over at some guy who probably deserved it. Compared to my first visit, the girls weren't sharky at all. A nice change. Spent a long time easing in and looking around, and was totally into Brianna (Spain, 28). Long hair, tiny tight body with a waist so small I could practically touch fingertips around it. The experience in the room was mixed, though. Some upselling, but that's to be expected. Excellent doggy with that body--couldn't really go wrong. BBBJ with CIM was fine too. Where it got weird was when she wanted to go for two pops. I said okay and we took a little breather, during which her attitude switched instantly. She became kind of glum and started telling me about her personal problems. Then, when we started again, the super-fake happy mask came back on, making the whole thing kind of creepy and distracting. In the middle of round 2 I asked vaguely about extras and I got a very angry "It will cost extra!" in response, which was even more of a turn off. When I couldn't pop she started jerking me so hard I had to ask her to stop. Even so I was sore for the rest of the night. I left thinking my excellent first visit had maybe just been a fluke.
Sunday, though, put everything right again. Mellower crowd, mellower vibe. First went with a Romanian whose name I didn't catch. Black pony tail, pale skin, tattoos of fairies on her back. Very friendly. When we got to the room just off the downstairs porno theater she pulled her pony tail across her upper lip and offered to satisfy my Hitler fetish, if I had one. Excellent leisurely BBBJ--so good I didn't even bother with anything else and just dragged it out, ending with CIM. Gave her a long massage, then decided to move on. Would definitely repeat, though.
Spotted Geraldine (HUN) too and decided to wait, as my first experience with her had been excellent. She didn't disappoint, either, and even remembered me though it had been almost a year. She's tall, pale, slender, pony tail, 26. Very polite, professional, and friendly, no upselling at all. Took an hour and eased in, with kissing followed by BBBJ, incredible cowgirl, missionary, and finished in doggy. She's 3 weeks on / 3 weeks off, so it's a crap shoot if you get her. Very much recommended though.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1665076]Hello fellow mongers, I'm think of a trip to Artemis, since it seems to one of the most popular club in the forum. I've heard lots about it, but since I live in France, so cities like Koln, frankfurt are easier to reach. To Berlin, I need to take the plane.
I'm not sure if it's worth to spend almost the whole day on road and just to visit the club (I've been to Berlin, so no need for sightseeing). And how good is Artemis comparing to clubs in other cities?
Any comments are welcomed.[/QUOTE]Hi Faceless,
All our responses are highly subjective, ofc you have to decide for yourself. If I were you I would do the trip only if I had enough time (2 days or more) so that you can be relaxed and take your time choosing the girls, have fun with them and still use all the facilities available as you wish to. Since I am a regular at Artemis you can be sure I would generally recommend a visit, however even for Berlin residents who won't have to calculate the time and cost of travelling it is wise not to go there if you have only very little time on your hands since the girls' line-up is sometimes difficult to predict and then sometimes the number of guys and the overall atmosphere may vary and then the availability of the girl you like may ofc be better or worse.
In addition: If you have more than one or two days I would do a little sightseeing in and around Berlin. Despite the fact we are exchanging our pay sex experiences here there is no reason to limit yourself regarding other activities.
Cheers and all the best for the new year everyone.
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1665119]Sounds quite convincing, now I have no more desire to Artemis now hah, maybe when I happen to be in the city I'll try. You are right, clubs in hessen and nrw are already more than enough for me, better stick to them.[/QUOTE]I recommend that you give Artemis a try. I live in England, and Berlin is an easier trip than other German cities, so I don't have quite the same issue as you there. Public transport links to the club are very good. Overall I prefer Artemis to the three Frankfurt clubs that I have visited. A summer day at Sharks is great (if you can put up with the lack of a / see in the rooms), and 50 e wins over 60 e, but I still head back to Artemis.
I don't agree that the lineup is weak at the moment. My last visit in December had the best lineup that I had seen for some time.
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Ruby
Hola guys, happy new year to all!
For those who know her, anybody spotted Ruby after Christmas? She apparently came back after quite a long time and was curious to know if it was just for a short period or if she is still there.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Such a twist
Thanks to Mr. Frozty & Diplomat,
You are right, after all, it my personal call. I believe Artemis is a good club, one of the best. And Berlin is also the only city I can get a cheap flight, which is even cheaper than the train tickets to frankfurt. But the airport is quite far away from the club, I think 1-2 hours train. So as you mentioned, maybe I'll take a try when I've several days off.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1665076]Hello fellow mongers, I'm think of a trip to Artemis, since it seems to one of the most popular club in the forum. I've heard lots about it, but since I live in France, so cities like Koln, frankfurt are easier to reach. To Berlin, I need to take the plane.
I'm not sure if it's worth to spend almost the whole day on road and just to visit the club (I've been to Berlin, so no need for sightseeing). And how good is Artemis comparing to clubs in other cities?
Any comments are welcomed.[/QUOTE]Dear Faceless78,
I was in all best FKK near Frankfurt and in the best famous FKK near Dusseldorf; as you are curious about it, I think you must visit Artemis as soon, possibly during two near days (especially in weekend, at least on Saturday) and for a bit hours. IMHO, this is the only way to understand the magnificence of the ambient and to look the complete line up: in fact after 8 pm There is a great chaos of man and girls that are running upstairs and downstairs, naked girls in every corner and you risk to look your preferred butterfly just one time.
Last but not the least, Artemis caught his gap with others famous German FKK: from few months you can enjoy the new wellness area outside the main building: not so usable in this cold period, but surely an added value in order to spend some good times between your bedrooms.
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[QUOTE=Borregad;1665131]Spotted Geraldine (HUN) She's 3 weeks on / 3 weeks off, so it's a crap shoot if you get her. Very much recommended though.[/QUOTE]I thought Geraldine is 3 weeks on and 1 week off (back home in Hungary), she changed her working style now?
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Names
[QUOTE=PeterB;1662394]Then I met Limassol from the Dominican Republic, she has such a pretty face, I'm guessing she's around 25, nice girl, bubbly personality. We met in the porn kino downstairs. It was just a very good session, with a nice blowjob, I also gave her good oral sex, really trying to make her cum, but I didn't continue long enough (sorry Limassol, I guess I was a little selfish) because I was eager to get more of a blowjob from her. She was just good, very very pretty, sweet and fun.
Limassol: cost: 60 EUR, vote: 9, she is certainly recommended![/QUOTE]Your description fits to a girl called "Marisol" .
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Girls are back
Good lineup yesterday. Most of the girls are back. Ruby is even more sexy than when she left, spent 1 1/2 HR with her as soon as she came in. She is here to stay for a while. Tall, long wavy hair. Wearing sexy lingerie. Almost impossible not spotting her, absolute stunner.
Also german Alicia is back after a long time, for those who know and appreciate her. Chatted with her a bit but no zimmer.
Before Christmas, 2/3 new very young looking german girls came in. I tested a couple and friends tested others. In general, all crap. No licking, no kissing, don't do this, don't do that pattern. All look and sound nice outside the room but deliver very below average service in the room. No names to give out (posted one in prev report), but I suggest, if it's a new german girl, looking very young, interview them before going to room. Personally, I'm going to avoid the whole bunch. But that's me.
Next trip later on this month, Sharks (never been) and Oase (long time I don't visit).
Cheers.
Kimino.
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It might be an unlucky string but also I have to report recent bad experiences. Of course I forgot names. Young new girls, german and not only (19-22).
I haven't made "interviews" in a while about what girls do in the room but at this point I'd just start again, just to avoid the "I don't like to be licked" and similar stuff in the room, even though even if she allows DATY, it might be a very bad session anyway, but at least I could avoid SOME bad sessions.
Buck.
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Service
[QUOTE=Kimino;1667185]Good lineup yesterday. Most of the girls are back. Ruby is even more sexy than when she left, spent 1 1/2 HR with her as soon as she came in. She is here to stay for a while. Tall, long wavy hair. Wearing sexy lingerie. Almost impossible not spotting her, absolute stunner.
Also german Alicia is back after a long time, for those who know and appreciate her. Chatted with her a bit but no zimmer.
Before Christmas, 2/3 new very young looking german girls came in. I tested a couple and friends tested others. In general, all crap. No licking, no kissing, don't do this, don't do that pattern. All look and sound nice outside the room but deliver very below average service in the room. No names to give out (posted one in prev report), but I suggest, if it's a new german girl, looking very young, interview them before going to room. Personally, I'm going to avoid the whole bunch. But that's me.
Next trip later on this month, Sharks (never been) and Oase (long time I don't visit).
Cheers.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Hello Kimino.
If you were referring to Alicia, the dark haired Turkish-German girl, then yes I have been with her. She is quite the tease on the sofas, but in the room she wanted to upsell her services. It seems that most of the German girls have the same M. O. They won't allow kissing, DATY, and won't suck balls, etc. It is a shame. I never had the opportunity to meet Ruby. Perhaps on my next visit to Berlin.
When you do finally make your way down to Sharks, you will find the girls are much more willing to provide all the services that you wish for. Sure, the girls will try and upsell, but the overall level of service is better at Sharks. Even at Oase it is better. If you have not visited in a while, you will find things have improved in terms of the girl's looks and in service. For some girls, you may need to extend to an hour for the best experience. That is entirely up to you. The only thing about these two clubs that does not compare is the food. You get much better food at Artemis. Don't be shy, and approach girls at Sharks. Some girls do not approach men. They will just sit around the bar area. I am not sure if there is a club rule in place, but it does allow you to relax.
I look forward to reading your reports.
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1667825]Hello Kimino.
If you were referring to Alicia, the dark haired Turkish-German girl, then yes I have been with her. She is quite the tease on the sofas, but in the room she wanted to upsell her services. It seems that most of the German girls have the same M. O. They won't allow kissing, DATY, and won't suck balls, etc. It is a shame. I never had the opportunity to meet Ruby. Perhaps on my next visit to Berlin.
When you do finally make your way down to Sharks, you will find the girls are much more willing to provide all the services that you wish for. Sure, the girls will try and upsell, but the overall level of service is better at Sharks. Even at Oase it is better. If you have not visited in a while, you will find things have improved in terms of the girl's looks and in service. For some girls, you may need to extend to an hour for the best experience. That is entirely up to you. The only thing about these two clubs that does not compare is the food. You get much better food at Artemis. Don't be shy, and approach girls at Sharks. Some girls do not approach men. They will just sit around the bar area. I am not sure if there is a club rule in place, but it does allow you to relax.
I look forward to reading your reports.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Ciao FiddyCent!
The Alicia I'm talking about just came back after many months, black hair, blue eyes and I always had great fun with her. So maybe we are talking about a different girl.
I have many german girls on my list and I enjoy their company, maybe not regularly, but now and then. I was talking about a new group of young german girl that showed up recently. I normally don't care at all about the nationality, but recently I discovered myself being a bit in alert mode when I make first contact with german girls. Last thing I want is to open a debate about nationalities of FKK girls. But my stats are very clear, to me. German girls that kiss are very very rare, the only girl that refused DATY was german, the only time a girl told me "DATY only if we do an hour" was german, all this in the last month.
Being so many great performers in Artemis, I'm turning a bit more cautious in my first contacts with german girls.
Thanks for the suggestions regarding Sharks. I'm really very curious to see the place. Great reviews. I'm not shy and I'm sure I'll have great fun. In any case I'm very positive by nature, could have fun on a Borg Ship. LOL.
I'll post the dates on the correct thread and maybe meet up with guys from that area.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Resistance is futile!
[QUOTE=Kimino;1667835]Ciao FiddyCent!
The Alicia I'm talking about just came back after many months, black hair, blue eyes and I always had great fun with her. So maybe we are talking about a different girl.
I have many german girls on my list and I enjoy their company, maybe not regularly, but now and then. I was talking about a new group of young german girl that showed up recently. I normally don't care at all about the nationality, but recently I discovered myself being a bit in alert mode when I make first contact with german girls. Last thing I want is to open a debate about nationalities of FKK girls. But my stats are very clear, to me. German girls that kiss are very very rare, the only girl that refused DATY was german, the only time a girl told me "DATY only if we do an hour" was german, all this in the last month.
Being so many great performers in Artemis, I'm turning a bit more cautious in my first contacts with german girls.
Thanks for the suggestions regarding Sharks. I'm really very curious to see the place. Great reviews. I'm not shy and I'm sure I'll have great fun. In any case I'm very positive by nature, could have fun on a Borg Ship. LOL.
I'll post the dates on the correct thread and maybe meet up with guys from that area.
Cheers.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Hello Kimino.
I am thinking it is the same Alicia, although I cannot positively confirm that. I never check out eye color. My face is always below the belt or I have them doggy style. LOL. She has curly black hair and a nose stud, no? Anyhow, I always try to make the most of my FKK visits, good or bad. Those FKK visits only make up a small portion of my overall vacation experience. I also do not want to single out a particular nationality or paint everyone with the same brush. These are just generalizations that infrequent visitors observe and report. Bad behavior at Artemis is more prevalent than at other FKKs. I believe there are cliques at this club. The German Sofa Group is one example. It is very easy for new girls to be influenced by the group, to perform to the bare minimum standards. The new girls will follow those standards of that particular group. Resistance is futile. My last visit to Artemis was not the most memorable because the standards have fallen below what I remembered. I only visited the club twice on my last trip and I had no desire to repeat for a third visit. Where have all the good girls gone, OR have they all become jaded?
You will probably find FKK Sharks a refreshing departure from Artemis. The girls are less "sharky" at Sharks. How ironic? I do not have an updated list, but I am sure the other members can help you out when you visit and post suggestions on the other threads. At Oase, you will find many more slim and attractive girls that do provide good service. Just take the time and properly screen the girls. I am sure you will have a good time. Try not to complain about the food too much.
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1667835]In any case I'm very positive by nature, could have fun on a Borg Ship. Kimino.[/QUOTE]Kimino, though your English is quite good, just remember not to confuse anal with assimilation.
On a Borg ship, the good news is it is not an extra; the bad is, it does not feel so good.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1667941]It is very easy for new girls to be influenced by the group, to perform to the bare minimum standards. The new girls will follow those standards of that particular group. Resistance is futile. My last visit to Artemis was not the most memorable because the standards have fallen below what I remembered. I only visited the club twice on my last trip and I had no desire to repeat for a third visit. Where have all the good girls gone, OR have they all become jaded?[/QUOTE]Naaa, there's plenty of nice girls giving excellent service (german and non german), I saw no decline in service levels of any kind. And I don't think it's a matter of bad influence either, no big plot. IMHO.
I remember a funny conversation with a girl, a while back. She was complaining that new girls were coming in and doing "anything" for the basic 30 min rates and this was not good for the other girls. I told her I was shocked about this, and that this was really terrible. Then I asked her to please point me out these new girls so that I would make sure I would never even talk with them. She didin't fall in the trap. LOL.
Kimino.
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I've never been to Artemis before, so this is probably a question that's been answered before.
But the 60€ for 30 min is just including regular sex and BBBJ, right?
What is included in this 60€ really? Can you kiss without tongue or is it extra?
And, is there some kind of general price list the girls have agreed to, or do they differ from each other? Is it possible to make other agreement with the girls with the extras? Are they strict?
I've heard that anal is 100€ extra which is pretty high (such a shame).
Artemis own site doesn't state much, so it would be great to get some more details.
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[QUOTE=BillyN;1668183]I've never been to Artemis before, so this is probably a question that's been answered before.
But the 60 for 30 min is just including regular sex and BBBJ, right?
What is included in this 60 really? Can you kiss without tongue or is it extra?
And, is there some kind of general price list the girls have agreed to, or do they differ from each other? Is it possible to make other agreement with the girls with the extras? Are they strict?
I've heard that anal is 100 extra which is pretty high (such a shame).
Artemis own site doesn't state much, so it would be great to get some more details.[/QUOTE]But the 60 for 30 min is just including regular sex and BBBJ, right? [B]Thats right.[/B].
What is included in this 60 really? Can you kiss without tongue or is it extra? [B]Almost every 60 session Ive had has included: kissing, mutual oral, sucking/playing with tits, sex in multiple positions. You can kiss but not every girl allows it, if she does allow she cant charge extra. [/B].
And, is there some kind of general price list the girls have agreed to, or do they differ from each other? Is it possible to make other agreement with the girls with the extras? Are they strict? [B]Pretty much every extra is 50. CIM, COF etc. Ive never heard of prices being negotiated. Anal is 100 - again Ive never heard of that being lowered.[/B].
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I will visit in about 3 weeks and wonder about valuables. Can I can bring a laptop (13") and store it in a locker somewhere without it being stolen? I have never been to a FKK before so I apologize for an stupid question.
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30 for 60
It is interesting to follow this thread as it has a tendency to evolve around a very narrow idea of what is going on at Artemis. I am a regular, not too frequent visitor (6-8 times a year, since I live in Berlin, and don't want to make it an everyday experience, which it can just not be by definition, and most people's budget). Wonderful girls have never been mentioned at all in the reports, while those focus on problems that will never be resolved.
If you pay 60 for 30, you will get covered intercourse and BBBJ. Kissing (and the degree of it) cannot be figured out (let alone be agreed on) before the actual meeting. The great thing about Artemis is that there is still quite some leeway as to what is possible in the room (not as much, in my experience, as there is at Goldentime, Vienna, for example, but still). The cinema downstairs is a good place to find out about what might be possible, but there is still possibility for disappointment in the room.
I happen to like this uncertainty, which can of course be costly, but can make for great experience, if my intuition is right. Even if I mention a girl I tend to think of as absolutely wonderful, she may leave a different impression on you: her name is Milou from Latvia, blonde, intelligent, laid back. She is the opposite of pushy, but probably has many followers, so she does not have to be. She has been away for longer spells, so watch out for her. Best experience with her will cost 50 extra, but boy is it worth it!
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[QUOTE=AndersBorg;1670013]I will visit in about 3 weeks and wonder about valuables. Can I can bring a laptop (13") and store it in a locker somewhere without it being stolen? I have never been to a FKK before so I apologize for an stupid question.[/QUOTE]Yep, no problems. Wallet / watch / cell phone can be stored in the lockers right beside the reception area, while the lockers in the wardrobe are more than big enough for a laptop. Of course, the lockers do not have triple level, Mission Impossible-style locks, more like quite simple physical key-locks, but I have still not experienced any problems / break-ins after... uhmmm... way too many visits to Artemis.
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My first time in Artemis
Hello fellow mongers,
I'd been planning to visit Artemis since last year, and finally yesterday I've got enough cash, courage and a right moment to get there. The problem I had to face was my complete lack of knowledge of German language, but I believed that my English should be enough.
Unfortunately I had only about 5 hours to spend in the club because I had to make it in one day's time, with the trip from Warsaw where I live, and with return. I came to the club on 11:45 right from the train (I took S5 line from Ostbahnhof to Westkreuz). I walked from the station very quickly as the club is nearby the station (meanwhile I was drinking a beer to calm down a bit (it's legal in Germany) and here I was, standing at the door with shaking legs. As almost everyone on a first visit I had great expectations and felt very (maybe too much) excited upon the entrance. After paying 80 Euro fee at the reception I got a robe and went to the lockers to leave my valuables there. After that I left clothes and cosmetics in the big locker in the changing room, took a quick shower and I was ready to meet the ladies. My heart was pounding as hell.
As I am a big boob lover and seek for PSE I was planning to score Jenna and Zoe, as both of them got good opinions here (and of course have large silicone values). I was hoping to not be "eaten" by the sharks before I meet my targets, so at the beginning I quickly fled downstairs to the spa area to find some peace and to relax there without being annoyed by the sharks. It was rather early (12 o'clock) so I found it almost empty. I went to the bar and suddenly I was caught by Bulgarian girl (sorry I forgot the name. I was so nervous). She immediately noticed that I'm a newbie so she started to insist that she will show me everything. I was afraid because I knew that after that it would be difficult for me to decline her proposition to go upstairs. She really wasn't my type (small boobs, very small ass, little stoop-shouldered, natural tan skin, and something "gipsy" in the eyes that was scaring me off, she wasn't smiling at all which also threw me off a bit). All in all after a minute I went on a trip with her showing me the basement area because I had no idea how to successfully refuse her (I was refusing all the time but she still insisted). And then at the bottom the stairs I saw Jenna. I quickly threw "sorry" to my Bulgarian "guide" and got right to the object of my fantasies.
Episode 1. Jenna.
With pounding heart I asked her If we could sit in the cinema and start a session there. She seemed a little surprised but she smiled and told me to wait for her in the cinema as she had to bring her bag. During that minute of waiting two really nice girls came by and said "Hi" but when I said I was waiting for Jenna they smiled with understanding in their eyes and went away (after that I heard behind the wall "he's waiting for Jenna" in German or similar. I's very nice of them). After a moment Jenna came back smiling. Her new boobs are huge (but still they don't look strange like some big-silicone-boobed pornstars ones sometimes do) so she wears some shirt under them to support them while she is walking. I was surprised that her face is surely more beautiful than on photos that are flying around the internet (google "Nova-Nice Jenna" to find her look from 2012 with the smaller boobs and longer hair). Her new (bigger) boobs look also better as they have more regular form. Jenna is very sweet, calm, and have really beautiful eyes. She agreed for the kisses and we started kissing very deeply and it felt great. After that I asked her for a DATY and licked her a bit (her pussy is also very soft, fresh and beautiful) and then when I was rock-hard I asked her for a slow BBBJ. I was so excited, so after a short (surely too short) time I was so close to coming that I asked her, If I could fuck those marvelous titties (I was hoping that it would be less stimulating so I could last longer). She smiled and put my cock between those jugs looking in my eyes. And her skin between boobs was sooo soft, and it felt and looked so good that although I was trying to resist I suddenly popped. It was such a shame because it was so early (maybe 10 min) and I was hoping to end up in her mouth but Jenna was so gentle and didn't laugh at all. She was hoping that maybe we could continue later and I said that possibly yes. I think that it was a result of too big expectations, too much excitements (I almost had't slept before the trip. I was so nervous) and maybe to much fear. Being calm could possibly help a lot. After a moment of sweet conversation (I admired her looks and skills a lot) we went to the lockers - 60 Euro, a sweet kiss for goodbye. Great session (maybe too short but that's only my fault) and definitely for a big boob lover she's "a must". Huge recommendation from me.
After a session I hit a shower, and went to eat something. I had no fear of walking through the bar area because I could easily avoid sharks with "Sorry I have to recover after a session" phrase. Mashed eggs with bacon and hot coffee helped me a lot, as I was really starving (earlier on the morning I was so nervous that I couldn't eat at all). Then I came down again to take a rest. While I was laying on the sunbed by the pool I was observing ladies passing by. There were more and more of them (but mostly the same were passing from time to time) and after an hour (just before 14:00) I decided to hunt for Zoe. I was surely more self-confident (I decided to use "Sorry I'm recovering. " in case of a shark attack) - but when I saw all those naked ladies looking at me nearby the bar (some of them were really high-end) I started to shake internally again After a moment I saw Zoe. Suntan, tattoos, red hair, huge pointy silicone boobs and a slim body to die for. I could't be mistaken. Unfortunately I was attacked by the shark then and when I turned around she was gone. Damn!! Then while wandering around I eventually noticed her. We mutually smiled to each other but somehow I found no courage to attack. Fortunately after a Quarter I found her again by the lockers while she was checking her mobile. I approached her and said "Hello" - she smiled and asked "You were waiting for me weren't you?" We laughed together and again I opted to start in the cinema.
Episode 2. Zoe.
At the beginning I asked her if she kisses and she confirmed. So we started from kisses. Unfortunately I've felt some resistance when I kissed her very deep. She was slightly moving her head away so I couldn't enjoy kisses as I'd like (but I've felt "ashtray effect" which I hate, so I wasn't too disappointed), maybe something didn't click. But instead of giving me her lips she was encouraging me to lick and kiss her boobs putting them near my face. And that I really liked cause I love licking big boobies After a while she asked me If I'd like to go to one of the rooms nearby the cinema and I agreed. Once inside I asked for a DATY and after a moment she opened her legs widely with a beautiful yet wicked smile. Her pussy was nice and soft but I must to admit that Jenna's pussy was a bit more fresh and tasty. Nevertheless I was licking her intensively but I guess again something didn't click (maybe I didn't lick her the way she liked) cause she said that she'd like to suck my dick. Words like these coming from a bombshell like she resulted that hair stood on a back of my neck (in a positive matter of course). And again (as with Jenna) when she started to give me slow yet very strong, wet and intensive blowjob I almost popped in a short while. She noticed it and suggested fucking. Her view and marvelous BBBJ made me so, so horny that I felt really stunned. She opted for a doggie position (she said it was her favorite. Maybe again she didn't want to kiss.) and after just a few pushes I came so intensively that I almost fainted (despite the fact that from the mixture of stress sleepiness and excitement I was starting to get soft at the end of the session.). After that, she was little surprised I popped so early, yet as well as Jenna, she didn't laugh, but asked If we could maybe repeat it later. Again paying procedure (60 Euro), sweet double kiss and the dream ended. Huge recommendation. I feel that if it clicks you may get a really hardcore ride. So if you seek PSE (as I am) she's strongly recommended.
After that again I went (on soft legs) to eat some sandwich and found some sunbed to get some rest. It was just before 15 and I knew that while I had so little time left (on 16:30 I had to leave) it was almost impossible for me to recover (having in mind that at the end of the session with Zoe my little friend was already getting soft). I sadly decided to get some rest and leave without having another round. I regretted more, when just before leaving I saw absolute stunner walking by the pool chatting with some guy. Absolutely perfect slim young body with perfect well formed yet slim hips, perfect not too big breast (as I prefer bigger ones these seemed perfectly balanced with the rest of her figure), long smooth legs (but not sticks which I hate) with that little open triangle between her pussy and full well shaped smooth thighs (if you know what I mean), black hair an the most stunning young face I've ever seen (and the girl's face as well as breast is most important for me in girls looks). She made me decide, that I have to return to the club and fuck her ASAP. I hope I'll find her.
I quickly took a shower, dressed, collected valuables and walked away trying not looking at the girls (for not regretting too much). It was about 16:30. On 17:50 I was sitting in the train and Just before Midnight I've returned home. What a mad yet pleasure full and most exciting day. I wish in Poland were places like this.
Conclusions:
As a first timer I must to admit, that I obviously made some mistakes. Here are my observations:
1. Don't expect too much. You should feel the flow and arrive to Artemis peaceful and calm (and you should sleep well before arrival). Being tired and nervous only lowers your sexual power, and being too excited significantly shortens the time of pleasure you get.
2. Don't't hesitate to refuse to the girls if you don't want to fuck them (my way of saying about recovering really usually works). Get some confidence. You are not here to get ripped or used. You are here to pick a girl you like the most and fuck her fulfilling your sexual desires. Yup it's that easy. Maybe it may be more difficult for someone who seeks GFE (you have to build up some deeper connection with a girl), but for a PSE seeker like me don't hesitate to simply approach a girl you like the most, and without too much preparation realize your fantasies. Maybe it sounds brutal, but I believe that's what this business is all about.
3. When you're tired get some rest on a sunbed by the pool. You should't be much bothered there. And when you feel strong attack again nearby the bar upstairs, or in the stairs area if you are afraid to go directly to the sharks cave. Place nearby the lockers and ladies changing room seems like a good hunting area as well. I believe that later in the evening there might be a problem with free sunbeds. So since about 15:00 lineup is getting very good early afternoon seems to me, to be a good moment for a hunting. A lot of girls present, yet still relative small amount of clients.
4. Remain polite and gentleman to the ladies because there are few views more disgusting and pathetic, than when a man disrespects a women (no matter of her profession) - but that's an obvious and universal advice. Besides it simply pays-off to be nice and polite.
I believe that it will be much easier for me to come again and to fulfill my fantasies with other beautiful ladies (yes. There are a lot of them in Artemis). And returning to a young stunner that totally amazed me. I'll come back to get you!
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[QUOTE=AndersBorg;1670013]I will visit in about 3 weeks and wonder about valuables. Can I can bring a laptop (13") and store it in a locker somewhere without it being stolen? I have never been to a FKK before so I apologize for an stupid question.[/QUOTE]You will be given a personal key that will open a small safebox where to store money, phones etc. But it's too small for the laptop. The same key will open your cupboard in the changing room where you can leave dresses, small bags etc. The laptop can stay there. There's cameras everywhere so it's secure. Third option, you can leave a bag, trolley or whatever doesn't fit in the changing room at the reception, it will be stored in a small room just beside the reception itself. No worry.
Kimino.
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Another first time report
Hi guys,
Paid my first ever visit to Artemis last Tuesday. For a long time I thought that FKK's and running around in a bath robe was not going to be my thing. Instead I have been doing mostly escorts in my hotel room. How wrong I was. From the moment I arrived around 5 pm I really felt great being there. To prepare I had read a lot in this thread and also on other forums so I think I knew what to look for when a came there.
Started out in the bar and was approached by a lot of sharks that asked me if it was my first time. I told them it wasn't and that I wasn't interested in a threesome right now. A German girl named Jenna or Jana (blond, ca 1. 65 cm, said she was from Berlin), I guess she is part of the GSG, came up to me and suggested that I empty my balls with her before dinner. She was cute and I decided that, what the heck, I need to get going so I can just as well start with her. It ended up being a 30 minute session with CIM. OK but it felt a little mechanical and pre-programmed.
After spending some time downstairs in the relax area and then having some dinner, I was back in the bar again. I sat at the right side of the bar where the passage is more narrow towards the sofas. A number of girls came up to me and suggested that we go to a room but I wanted to observe and pick a girl of my choice. I suddenly realised that I had a girl sitting next to me at the bar drinking coffee and having a cigarette. She did nothing to approach me so I turned to her and said Hi. It turned out to be Viola from Russia. Since returning home I have read about her in the forum but I knew nothing about her then. Let me just say that she was excellent. Ended up being a 1 hour session involving both anal and CIM. She gave me the blowjob of my life. Her English wasn't very good but we managed in German.
Later that night I placed myself at the back of the lounge in one of the sofas so that I could observe the girls in the bar. I made eye contact with a girl several times. I had seen her earlier that day and she looked very young. She did not come up to me so I walked over and sat down in her sofa. Her name was Simai and she was Turkish-German. Short 1. 63 cm and a slim body like the Russian porn star Tiffany / Joanna. We went up to the room and had a good 30 minute session ending with CIM. A great girl but nowhere near the performance of Viola.
Totally happy with my first Artemis experience and already planning for my next trip there.
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Sexy Herrmann:
The German girl from Berlin is indeed Jana.
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Nice report Hermann666. I'm considering going there the next time I'm in Berlin, despite a mediocre experience last time.
Do they update their image gallery at all? There is a lot of new names here that doesn't match up with the girls at all.
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[QUOTE=RandomTraveler;1670969]Nice report Hermann666. I'm considering going there the next time I'm in Berlin, despite a mediocre experience last time.
Do they update their image gallery at all? There is a lot of new names here that doesn't match up with the girls at all.[/QUOTE]From what I've heard the image gallery is not up to date. Some girls on the web page haven't worked there for a while and many new girls are not listed.
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Anyone going to Artemis soon?
If you are visiting the club in the near future, I'd be grateful if you could drop me a pm.
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Soooo
New entries? Current lineup level? News?
Anybody visited last Saturday? Very crowded?
Spotted sweet Manuela in Oase last week.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1674609]Spotted sweet Manuela in Oase last week.
Cheers.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]What's her name in Oase? Just curious if she has another name there?
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1674625]What's her name in Oase? Just curious if she has another name there?[/QUOTE]Stupidly I didn't ask her.
Kimino.
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Thursday night visit
Was in Artemis yesterday. Good line-up and normal ratio of men vs women. There was some times wait for the room, but not long queue.
Went to the room with Ruby. She looks good, but something was not as used to be. She looked a little unhappy (more than usual).
I went with Avril, from Romania, white skin, good be-cup breasts, 21 years old, no tattoos (not 100 percent sure). She was average in service and very money oriented girl. Will not repeat.
Went for a repeat with Daisy, from Berlin, fake boobs but seems and feels very natural, many flower and butterfly tattoos covering her back and legs. She was very good and we finished with throat fucking and finish in mouth. Recommended if you like her face and a her little chubby body.
Anyone know a girl by name of Dalia? Light skin, no tattoos, asian looking eyes, from Romania? I may take her for a ride today.
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[QUOTE=ShahKhan;1676172]Anyone know a girl by name of Dalia? Light skin, no tattoos, asian looking eyes, from Romania? I may take her for a ride today.[/QUOTE]Good service, but nothing special. Just worth a shot. Good luck!
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[QUOTE=ShahKhan;1676172]Was in Artemis yesterday. Good line-up and normal ratio of men vs women. There was some times wait for the room, but not long queue.
Went to the room with Ruby. She looks good, but something was not as used to be. She looked a little unhappy (more than usual).
I went with Avril, from Romania, white skin, good be-cup breasts, 21 years old, no tattoos (not 100 percent sure). She was average in service and very money oriented girl. Will not repeat.
Went for a repeat with Daisy, from Berlin, fake boobs but seems and feels very natural, many flower and butterfly tattoos covering her back and legs. She was very good and we finished with throat fucking and finish in mouth. Recommended if you like her face and a her little chubby body.
Anyone know a girl by name of Dalia? Light skin, no tattoos, asian looking eyes, from Romania? I may take her for a ride today.[/QUOTE]
Did you see Anetta? The German Hungarin curvy girl with blue eyes? If so I would arrive on Sunday. Reception could not tell me yesterday. Many thanks.Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1676175]Good service, but nothing special. Just worth a shot. Good luck![/QUOTE]Was interested in the girl too but never tried. Looks asian but not really. Think it's her.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1676178]Was interested in the girl too but never tried. Looks asian but not really. Think it's her.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the girl I wrote about.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1676175]Good service, but nothing special. Just worth a shot. Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I may try her anyway.
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[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1676177]Did you see Anetta? The German Hungarin curvy girl with blue eyes? If so I would arrive on Sunday. Reception could not tell me yesterday. Many thanks.Cheers.[/QUOTE]Sorry, don't know her.
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Wednesday. First time report.
I arrived at Artemis at lunchtime. The place had good line up, very few fellow mongers (4-5).
First round:
Sandra. Polish, great performer and nice girlfriend (allows kisses). 32 year old, tattoo on her leg, blue eyes, blonde, 172 cm tall, the-cup silicone, It ended up being my best session at Artemis, she was on my list. Thanks to reports from Kimino. BBBJ was super, also her pussy was nice and soft, decided to fuck her one hour various positions. Ended up CIM. I shot a very big load in her mouth. She took it like a pornstar. After a moment of good conversation and smoke we went to the lockers - 170 Euro, a sweet kiss for goodbye. Huge recommendation from me.
After a wash-up, I wandered downstairs to the wellness area to relax for a while and do the work with my ibad. In wellness area its allowed.
Second round:
Did not listen my brain and list. Back Upstairs my cock saw a very beautiful girl Esra she is Turkish, but born in Germany, 21 years old, natural D-cup breasts, small ass, looks like Karolina Sevastjanova (Russian rhythmic gymnast) have to say that I am not from Russia, just love that girl. So blinded by beauty went upstairs. Huge Mistake. I had her suck my cock, which was very boring, then I tried to fuck her, but she was like rubber doll. That was 5 minutes into the session, and I realized I'd wasted 60 EUR. So I choose not to cum. Just avoid her, she is a total waste of time.
Third round:
Spent a little time looking around and been talking to a bunch of girls did not get the right feeling, until I met blond (shoulder-length hair) Czech. Quite average looking, very small tits on a small frame, no tattoos, After good conversation I had a good feeling about her, so I gave her a chance. By the way she speaks several languages. Allows French kissing, very good BBBJ 30 min, She was tighter than average, but that was good. Because I have a small cock. I fucked her really hard maybe 15 minutes and decided to CIF (have never tried that). Great orgasm for me with good view. Again 170 EUR.
Good service but I forgot her name sorry. Stupid me.
I went then back to town had some appointments. That's all for my first time visit. Thanks to all for the reports.
Cheers,
Winter
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Saturday
Been a while I didn't visit artemis on a Saturday and was a bit worried to find myself surrounded by large groups of tourists, which I am myself BTW. But the evening was fine, good vibe, a lot of people but not too much. Some waiting for the rooms, but not dramatic.
Looking for an empty room I ended up with Viola in one of the external rooms (num 42) where the heating was not working. Freezing. Being russian she could probably notice it less than a mediterranean guy like me but we did our best to heat up the place in the next hour. LOL They should close the room until it's not fixed, getting the sound system to work in outer rooms could be a good idea (for those who appreciate it).
Meet up with quite a few Isgers, nice chatting between zimmers.
Tried Giorgina (Georgia), skinny, quite tall, long brown wavy hair. Ok session, does try to make you feel good but not memorable. I won't repeat because there's so many better options but ymmv.
Was very attracted by a relatively new girl, couple of months in the house. Always sitting at the bar. Very nice body, garter and stockings, brown / black mid lenght hair. Very sexy look. After dropping her a few times because of her hardcore approach "let's go have sex!" I talked to her while waiting for my drink at the bar. Turkish / german, was working in paradise stuttgart. Forgot the name sorry. Looks like a nice girl but my shark alerts where all red so I played safe on couple of favorites, actually on friends favorites. LOL.
Anybody figured out who she is and have info? She did the day shift yesterday. Will try her next time I'm up.
Extras made an economic disaster out of this trip. Note to myself: try reconnecting the brain before entering a room.
Next week, big messe, there's going to be a big crowd. "Happy" I'm not up.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Fancy a Snojob?
Friday and Saturday.
I am taking it slowly because of other commitments and age catching up with me.
Impressive line up with old favorites and new talent.
Fatima has once again become the scarlet pimpernel of Artemis, rumored to be in the VIP room on Friday for 15 hours then vanishing into the nacht.
Things got busy late on Friday and there was a queue for rooms even outside near the dining room. This led to slapstick improvisation by some. We had the side of Amira processing in from the cold with snow through her hair. She looked magnificent actually and I was tempted but she seemed like she was all about the business; I also wondered about the pricing on a Snojob? Soledad meanwhile, faced with a wait in the dining room with a somewhat jumpy customers in the dining tent, sat him down and proceeded to manojob him to contented equipoise. I left but a puddle seen later did attract questions.
On the masculine side, hidden among the disarray of misunderstood metrosexuals we had RB, Kimino, Buck and others in attendance. A German guy try to underpay for COB when the girl had stuff on he body (discussed at reception). A Middle Eastern guy feeling like he could not find his money locker after grudge f--king one of the German (tall blonde) girls near to martyrdom. He was surrounded a lynch mob of naked girls. I personally would be given in to being kidnapped and beaten by these girls but when approached by the Hausfrau and security, he found his locker and some euro. He was then counseled by 2 of his peeps and left the premises.
Girls, oh yes.
Sonja 21 yo Ro slim brunette brown eyes A cup. Back after 8 months home, new tattoo on right shoulder professing love for brother. She looked well rested and essentially gorgeous. 1 hour, DATY, some attitude thrown in with good humor, a "you don't have to come in my mouth" CIM finish after she knelt in front of me alternate deep throat with ball licking and eye contact. Confessed she is not really Silvia's sister at end of session.
Mary late 20's Bu blonde, natural see cup. 1 hour standard.
Raisa 22 yo Ro Bucharest Ro slim brunette brown eyes A cup. Sweet looking girl with slightly darker skin, small crab tattoo on right lower tummy. Excellent session. Less eye contact than in my fantasy but turns out is a little shy. Wiil try to repeat and get to know a bit better.
Silvia 28 yo (really) Ro slim brunette dark piercing eyes, athletic body (gym session daily), A cup, no tattoos. I was about to leave at 1230 am on Saturday when she dropped. "I really have to go" I said as use brushed her hand down my thigh, "OK" she said, watch the tent in my grown, "if you must" . Into the Kino back room. Session of 2015 so far. LFK, BBBJ, 69, DATY, major athletic FK (rivaling Fatima's efforts) and CIM. At the lockers, I told her I needed an ambulance, she raised an eyebrow: "I have nurses outfit if you would like! Another day perhaps.
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[QUOTE=Bearsk;1677058]Silvia 28 yo (really) Ro slim brunette dark piercing eyes, athletic body (gym session daily), A cup, no tattoos. I was about to leave at 1230 am on Saturday when she dropped. "I really have to go" I said as use brushed her hand down my thigh, "OK" she said, watch the tent in my grown, "if you must" . Into the Kino back room. Session of 2015 so far. LFK, BBBJ, 69, DATY, major athletic FK (rivaling Fatima's efforts) and CIM. At the lockers, I told her I needed an ambulance, she raised an eyebrow: "I have nurses outfit if you would like! Another day perhaps.[/QUOTE]I cannot believe Silvia is 28 years old. She looks like 19 with that incredibly fit body.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1677049]
Looking for an empty room I ended up with Viola in one of the external rooms (num 42) where the heating was not working. Freezing. Being russian she could probably notice it less than a mediterranean guy like me but we did our best to heat up the place in the next hour. LOL They should close the room until it's not fixed, getting the sound system to work in outer rooms could be a good idea (for those who appreciate it).
[/QUOTE]I was in the same room, and it had the door open when I entered. The first 5 minutes were like an igloo experience then I forgot about it. I actually didn't hear music also in the rooms upstairs, strange.
I sticked to (my) favorites for 3 sessions, already reviewed somewhere in the forum, for the usual 1 hour sessions. Anal for me not for worth it for the "empty the wallet" experience.
Tried another girl, Ambra from Romania, tall girl with long blonde hair. Dark eyes, tits seem fake but enjoyable, mid 20's, enough good (full) half an hour. Funny girl, might repeat along the way.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1677049]Been a while I didn't visit artemis on a Saturday and was a bit worried to find myself surrounded by large groups of tourists, which I am myself BTW. But the evening was fine, good vibe, a lot of people but not too much. Some waiting for the rooms, but not dramatic. Kimino.[/QUOTE]Hi K, I was trying to drop you a line but your pm box is too full to take any more messages! Bw, LT.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1677049]Was very attracted by a relatively new girl, couple of months in the house. Always sitting at the bar. Very nice body, garter and stockings, brown / black mid lenght hair. Very sexy look. After dropping her a few times because of her hardcore approach "let's go have sex!" I talked to her while waiting for my drink at the bar. Turkish / german, was working in paradise stuttgart. Forgot the name sorry. Looks like a nice girl but my shark alerts where all red so I played safe on couple of favorites, actually on friends favorites. LOL.
Anybody figured out who she is and have info? She did the day shift yesterday. Will try her next time I'm up.[/QUOTE]Maybe Sila, but I am not sure. First noticed her in November 2014. If it's her: recommended, but YMMV.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1677317]Maybe Sila, but I am not sure. First noticed her in November 2014. If it's her: recommended, but YMMV.[/QUOTE]That's the name, I think! Thanks. Was sure you knew her.
Kimino.
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Pricing quiz
Something I've always wondered, but never dared to ask.
I know the basic pricing rules are 60 for each 30 minutes, 100 for anal, 50 CIM / COB. Help a fellow monger Ballerpete understand the how the pricing works in a scenario he intends to realize quite soon in Artemis.
ScenarioA.
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima for 3 hours straight. During that time, they have sex 4 times. Once without extras, once with anal, once with CIM, and once with anal and CIM. How much is his total bill?
1) 6*60 for three hours + 100 for anal + 50 for CIM = 510.
2) 6*60 for three hours + 2*100 for anal twice + 2*50 for CIM twice = 660.
3) 6*60 for three hours + 4*100 for anal for each session + 4*50 for CIM for each session = 960.
ScenarioB.
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima and Nina for an hour straight. During that time, they have sex 2 times. Once with anal and CIM for Fatima / no extras for Nina, and once with anal and CIM for both Fatima and Nina. How much is his total bill?
1) 2*2*60 for an hour + 2*100 for anal + 2*50 for CIM = 540.
2) 2*2*60 for an hour + 2*100 for anal for Fatima + 100 for anal for Nina + 2*50 for CIM for Fatima + 50 CIM for Nina = 690.
3) 2*2*60 for an hour + 2*2*100 for anal for each session + 2*2*50 for CIM for each session = 840 .
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[QUOTE=Ballerpete76;1677566]
3) 6*60 for three hours + 4*100 for anal for each session + 4*50 for CIM for each session = 960.
[/QUOTE]Please remember that more than 2 anal requires you to bring some cream for irritations for the lady. Please ask your local pharmacy.
Buck.
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[QUOTE=Ballerpete76;1677566]
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima and Nina for an hour straight.[/QUOTE]You will need a time machine for that. Approx 97.786.000.000 Borg dollars. Anals and cims won't make a big difference on the budget.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1677690]You will need a time machine for that. Approx 97.786.000.000 Borg dollars. Anals and cims won't make a big difference on the budget.
Kimino[/QUOTE]Fatima and Nina are gone? I've been reading tens and tens of pages about them, and failed to notice this vital piece of information. Back to the old drawing board then.
On a more serious note. Do you know how the extras are calculated in a longer session, ie. Is it a one time fee for anal or the 100 € for every time / everyone anal is done?
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1677678]Please remember that more than 2 anal requires you to bring some cream for irritations for the lady. Please ask your local pharmacy.
Buck.[/QUOTE]Not with my gear. They'll hardly feel a thing.
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Czechoslovakia lives!
[QUOTE=Ballerpete76;1677566]Something I've always wondered, but never dared to ask.
I know the basic pricing rules are 60 for each 30 minutes, 100 for anal, 50 CIM / COB. Help a fellow monger Ballerpete understand the how the pricing works in a scenario he intends to realize quite soon in Artemis.
ScenarioA.
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima for 3 hours straight. During that time, they have sex 4 times. Once without extras, once with anal, once with CIM, and once with anal and CIM. How much is his total bill?[/QUOTE]Cost: its like a trip to Disneyland and paying the Slovakian National debt to her at the same time. (no way is she Greek).
[QUOTE=Ballerpete76;1677566]
ScenarioB.
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima and Nina for an hour straight. [/QUOTE]While you would have reunified Czech and Slovak republics, the experience would priceless and its ghosh to try and cost it out in dollars or euros.
Experience with these 2 ladies is you might ask them what you owe at the end of the session, pay it and say thank you.
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[QUOTE=BallerPete76;1677566]Something I've always wondered, but never dared to ask.
I know the basic pricing rules are 60 for each 30 minutes, 100 for anal, 50 CIM / COB. Help a fellow monger Ballerpete understand the how the pricing works in a scenario he intends to realize quite soon in Artemis.
ScenarioA.
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima for 3 hours straight. During that time, they have sex 4 times. Once without extras, once with anal, once with CIM, and once with anal and CIM. How much is his total bill?
1) 6*60 for three hours + 100 for anal + 50 for CIM = 510.
ScenarioB.
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima and Nina for an hour straight. During that time, they have sex 2 times. Once with anal and CIM for Fatima / no extras for Nina, and once with anal and CIM for both Fatima and Nina. How much is his total bill?
1) 2*2*60 for an hour + 2*100 for anal + 2*50 for CIM = 540.
[/QUOTE]Scenario A = 510 and Scenario be = 540. Now, if you did anal the whole 3 hours (hypothetically speaking), then you would owe 100 extra for each half hour (6*60+6*100=960), at least according to the official pricing. If a girl tells you different, she's just trying to scam you and you should politely invite her to go to Reception with you to clarify the official pricing.
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[QUOTE=BallerPete76;1677693]Fatima and Nina are gone? I've been reading tens and tens of pages about them, and failed to notice this vital piece of information. Back to the old drawing board then.
[/QUOTE]Nina gone, Fatima still there.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1677726]Scenario A = 510 and Scenario be = 540. Now, if you did anal the whole 3 hours (hypothetically speaking), then you would owe 100 extra for each half hour (6*60+6*100=960), at least according to the official pricing. If a girl tells you different, she's just trying to scam you and you should politely invite her to go to Reception with you to clarify the official pricing.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for clarifying this!!
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Poon Pricing
[QUOTE=BallerPete76;1677566]Fellow monger Ballerpete understand the how the pricing works in a scenario he intends to realize quite soon in Artemis.
Ballerpete visits FKK Artemis, and has sex with Fatima for 3 hours straight. During that time, they have sex 4 times. Once without extras, once with anal, once with CIM, and once with anal and CIM. How much is his total bill?
3) 6*60 for three hours + 4*100 for anal for each session + 4*50 for CIM for each session = 960.
[/QUOTE]BP (well at least now we really know what Beyond Petroleum means). Here RB is using up one of his precious remaining posts on this burning question.
Your sin-arios (ha ha) are a little more complicated as if all are in one long session, then multiple anal might be considered as just one time. Although I guess technically the cock clock would get reset after each time you cum. You will just have to negotiate.
However, there are some missing additional cost elements you will need to include:
1/ Sit-in ice bucket, for the girls.
2/ Buck's butt cream (and he should know).
3/ The souvenir T-Shirts and Hats.
4/ Some kind of digital display in the room that shows the time, the current orifice being penetrated, the running cost, updated every minute.
5/ Another digital display that shows investment losses during this project.
6/ A bronze statue of you mounted on the reception wall as Monger of the Millenium.
7/ Your own medical, and perhaps psychologist bills, as anyone who can cum 4 times in 3 hours will need to pay. These could be reduced, and possibly the whole session even paid for, if you offer your services to the Berlin Fire Dept.
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Fruit and vegetable men standing around, pickins still to be had
The first day of the Fruitopia Messe was Tuesday.
This led to large influx of mostly men into Berlin and a proportion of them to Artemis.
The first wave at about 4 pm was a false alarm. Its was just a group of unruly Italians flouting order by wearing swim shorts under their gowns and in the pool, wearing their robes into the sauna then taking off and leaving them there while making sport of groping the gals before a word had been exchanged. These were not the fruit men but they prepped the joint for them.
During the veining the fruit men showed up in a crescendo that led to there being no lockers by midnight with 5 lines extending back the front desk through the whole foyer of men wanting to get in. Inside they mostly stood around, ate, drank, talked and groped. Some went to the room. Generally things remain civil although there were multiple instances of shoes and gowns inadvertently stolen by the fruit men.
I contented my self with finally have caught up with Fatima who was in fabulous form.
I also revisited with Sonya who despite needing life counseling proceeded to FMBO.
I had eyes for Silvia but alas she had a revolving fruit and money tray that did not stop. Every time I went to chat with her, she was in motion with a man 20 cm shorter than her to somewhere private.
I met Axena 26 Bu former GT Vienna blonde, 152 cm, augments, cute. Excellent quick session inc BBBJ and nice chat with this lady who arrived at A 3 weeks ago.
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[QUOTE=Bearsk;1677699]Cost: its like a trip to Disneyland and paying the Slovakian National debt to her at the same time. (no way is she Greek).
While you would have reunified Czech and Slovak republics, the experience would priceless and its ghosh to try and cost it out in dollars or euros.
Experience with these 2 ladies is you might ask them what you owe at the end of the session, pay it and say thank you.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. I have been with Nina more time than I can count. Never ever disappointed me. Shame she is gone. I don't know who Fatima is. Can someone help?
I also stay long, sometimes very long. Last week had 4 hours and the girl said 5. 5 hours plus 2 extras 760 - I gave her 800. I was wasted, so I lost track of time, but later noticed that 5. 5 hours is simply impossible because I was only in the club 4. 5 hours and she picked me up after 10 minutes I was there. I told her afterwards I the bar (very nicely) and she offered to return my money if she had made a mistake. I said no. It is OK. Even though it is annoying. So, my point is, no need to be petty for another 20 euro, but take a good look at the time when you go in and make sure they see you do it. To prevent inconveniences.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1678457]., but take a good look at the time when you go in and make sure they see you do it. To prevent inconveniences.[/QUOTE]Yep. I try to do that sometimes. Problem is, I forget what the time was so I just hope on the psicological effect of it on the girl. Disaster I am. LOL.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1678162]Your sin-arios (ha ha) are a little more complicated as if all are in one long session, then multiple anal might be considered as just one time. You will just have to negotiate.
7/ Your own medical, and perhaps psychologist bills, as anyone who can cum 4 times in 3 hours will need to pay.[/QUOTE]I think you're right, the pricing for longer sessions is not really clear and somewhat open for negotiation.
And I think I won't have to worry about the medical bills, twice a day is quite an achievement nowadays for me. I just wanted to know from a purely academic perspective. A man can always dream.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1678457]I also stay long, sometimes very long. Last week had 4 hours and the girl said 5. 5 hours plus 2 extras 760 - I gave her 800. I was wasted, so I lost track of time, but later noticed that 5. 5 hours is simply impossible because I was only in the club 4. 5 hours. So, my point is, no need to be petty for another 20 euro, but take a good look at the time when you go in and make sure they see you do it. To prevent inconveniences.[/QUOTE]Yep, exactly this has happened to me several times, especially if the chemistry is good. And you've had something to drink. You end up spending quite a lot of time in the room, and have no idea what the actual bill might be. 20 euros this way or the other does not matter, but sometimes the bills can run up quite high. I somehow remember having a session of almost 1000 in GT Vienna. The girl was a sex beast and in the end I was completely spent so it was almost impossible to cum.
I heard that there are clocks in the rooms in FKK Sharks and this I think would be a great thing for Artemis as well.
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RocketBoy, please don't stop after 1. 000 posts, your texts are so very funny!).
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[QUOTE=BallerPete76;1678589]Yep, exactly this has happened to me several times, especially if the chemistry is good. And you've had something to drink. You end up spending quite a lot of time in the room, and have no idea what the actual bill might be. 20 euros this way or the other does not matter, but sometimes the bills can run up quite high. I somehow remember having a session of almost 1000 in GT Vienna. The girl was a sex beast and in the end I was completely spent so it was almost impossible to cum.
I heard that there are clocks in the rooms in FKK Sharks and this I think would be a great thing for Artemis as well.[/QUOTE]How is GT Vienna as compared to clubs here. I flirting with the thought of taking a ride. Is it worth or is it a waste of time? It is 90 euro to get in. Is that reflective of prices there? Any info will be greatly appreciated. On the way to Shark. Hope for a fun night.
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Kimino_FKK memory chip / device / app. Patent pending
Kimino.
The memory tablets have not helped so we to implant a chip that:
*tells the girl's name when pointed at face, chest, other defined places.
*keeps a tab on the time.
*provides a small electric shock when offered CIM or "the" anal.
BSK.
[QUOTE=Kimino;1678555]Yep. I try to do that sometimes. Problem is, I forget what the time was so I just hope on the psicological effect of it on the girl. Disaster I am. LOL.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bearsk;1678949]Kimino.
The memory tablets have not helped so we to implant a chip that:
*tells the girl's name when pointed at face, chest, other defined places.
*keeps a tab on the time.
*provides a small electric shock when offered CIM or "the" anal.
BSK.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the support. Sounds like a very smart idea. Still, I don't think my memory is that bad. Maybe we will have a chance to meet personally one day, know each other, have a drink, and discuss this a bit in details.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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Had a two day stay at Artemis last Sunday and Monday, arrived at 4 pm on Sunday after shower and a quick look a round I decided to jump to action straight away!
First session Kiara (Ger) mid 20's.
She has short dark hair her face looks almost like she is asian she is an beautiful petite girl with enhanced tits, started of in the kino downstairs she doesn't do GFE she agreed to DATY but as soon as I felt like she was close to have an orgasm she aborted it straight to BJ which she quite frankly isn't very good at (disappointment!) very mechanical, went on to sex in different positions she has a very tight pussy that is the only reason I would actually repeat her. And the fact that she wasn't trying to upsell anything which is a huge turnoff for me.
Second and fourth session! Axena (Bul) mid 20's.
Petite blond girl with moderately enhanced tits beautiful girl, first session only LFK but the second one DFK and also on DATY she was much more relaxed the second session and had a huge orgasm. She is a genius in BJ-skills, no upsell, very tight pussy! I will repeat her whenever I see her! Recommended.
Third session Samantha (Bul) mid 30's?
Met her many times before, we always have the best time. Treat her right and you will have the time of your life!
Fifth session! Gina (Namibia?) mid 20's.
I had seen her all day long but whenever she was free I was recuperating from the other sessions but finally I found her like 2. 30 am this was the most memorable session of the trip! Very much recommended I had her coming hard in DATY a few times making her energy disappear but had a very intense fuck with her she is a beast! 10/10.
Monday!
Arrived at Artemis soon after 12.00 did have some breakfast and some small talk with two swedish guys when Amina introduced her self, she is very beautiful but I remembered that I have seen her name at this forum but wasn't sure if it was a positive or negative! After she walked away one of the swedes said that he has been with her the last time he visited Artemis and he vas happy with her. Didn't ask for specifics (wish I did).
First session Amina (Ger / Iran) mid 20's.
As said very beautiful face, pocahontas lookalike nice tits her ass is a bit saggy. If you see her just walk the other way, believe me! Tries to upsell everything, her BJ-skills is well beyond par I had to tell her several times not to use her teeths it HURTS! Her pussy is so big you could easily fit the eiffeltower in there. Must I say I aborted the session, this girl shouldn't be working at Artemis. Looks 8/10 service 1/10.
Second session was with a girl I believe is from Germany? She has a huge woman's / girl's face on her back.
I had seen her before but she seemed a bit to professional if you get my drift?! But I was talking to the other swede and he had been with her a few hours ago telling me she was incredible. She has a killerbody very fitness-trained body with enhanced tits, nice face long black hair. In the room we started with me giving her a massage! Getting her relaxed before getting on with DATY and DFK she had a huge orgasm in DATY her body was trembling after this she was forced to have a cigarette before getting on with a really long good BJ she also have a very tight pussy so I couldn't last more than 5-7 minutes during sex. Recommended!
Third session Ina (Ukr / Arm) but she looks south american, 30 years?
GFE! Great DFK, good DATY very good BJ and really enjoyable to fuck! Recommended!
On my last three visits I haven't seen Iris (Rum) Venera (Rum) and Belle (Cuba?) does anybody know if they are still working at Artemis?
Happy Mongering!
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Fifth session! Gina (Namibia?) mid 20's.
Very much recommended I had her coming hard in DATY a few times making her energy disappear but had a very intense fuck with her she is a beast! 10/10.
[/QUOTE]Toxteth, great report, thanks. You also found the perfect sex mate beast for Kimino!
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[QUOTE=Toxteth;1679175]Second session was with a girl I believe is from Germany? She has a huge woman's / girl's face on her back.
I had seen her before but she seemed a bit to professional if you get my drift?! But I was talking to the other swede and he had been with her a few hours ago telling me she was incredible. She has a killerbody very fitness-trained body with enhanced tits, nice face long black hair. In the room we started with me giving her a massage! Getting her relaxed before getting on with DATY and DFK she had a huge orgasm in DATY her body was trembling after this she was forced to have a cigarette before getting on with a really long good BJ she also have a very tight pussy so I couldn't last more than 5-7 minutes during sex. Recommended![/QUOTE]Sounds like you met Sarai. She has a beautiful face and in my view one of the hottiest bodies at Artemis. She can be quite direct and funny too.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1679202]Sounds like you met Sarai. She has a beautiful face and in my view one of the hottiest bodies at Artemis. She can be quite direct and funny too.[/QUOTE]That's her! Yes I liked her personality very much, as you say strong opinions and direct approach! Probably the best body the days I visited.
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[QUOTE=Toxteth;1679175]On my last three visits I haven't seen Iris (Rum) Venera (Rum) and Belle (Cuba?) does anybody know if they are still working at Artemis?[/QUOTE]Iris and Belle are still working at Artemis. Can't confirm that for Venera, I am sorry.
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The art of Artemis reporting
[QUOTE=Toxteth;1679175]Had a two day stay at Artemis last Sunday and Monday, arrived at 4 pm on Sunday after shower and a quick look a round I decided to jump to action straight away!
[/QUOTE]Great report very useful for upcoming trip. Thanks.
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Gina, Belle
[QUOTE=Toxteth;1679175]Fifth session! Gina (Namibia?) mid 20's.
I had seen her all day long but whenever she was free I was recuperating from the other sessions but finally I found her like 2. 30 am this was the most memorable session of the trip! Very much recommended I had her coming hard in DATY a few times making her energy disappear but had a very intense fuck with her she is a beast! 10/10.
On my last three visits I haven't seen Iris (Rum) Venera (Rum) and Belle (Cuba?) does anybody know if they are still working at Artemis?[/QUOTE]Gina: made the same memorable experience like you, she is absolutely gorgeous, nice flawless body and a passionate performance!
Belle: Yes, she works still there, saw here this week!
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1678677]How is GT Vienna as compared to clubs here. I flirting with the thought of taking a ride. Is it worth or is it a waste of time? It is 90 euro to get in. Is that reflective of prices there? Any info will be greatly appreciated. On the way to Shark. Hope for a fun night.[/QUOTE]I have not been there for two years, but based on the earlier experiences, it is worth a trip in my opinion.
The atmosphere is very nice and relaxed, I think the best of all the clubs I've been to. It's all in one big space, there's nice places to relax and read, the interior is really high class and food is OK. The lineup is not as big as Artemis, Oase or World, but on average pretty much on the same level, but I guess this really depends on the day. Maybe not as much stunners as Oase at its best can have, but I always found really good looking girls there. I think it's 60 euro / 30 min and is it now 90 to get in.
However, I suggest you read up on the Vienna thread as I have not been there for 2 years and I read some alarming reports on the Vienna thread about declining standards.
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I will try to remember to do that.
[QUOTE=Kimino;1679094]Thanks for the support. Sounds like a very smart idea. Still, I don't think my memory is that bad. Maybe we will have a chance to meet personally one day, know each other, have a drink, and discuss this a bit in details.
Cheers.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1679615] I am thinking to try Magnum Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Likely not your best option on a Tuesday given the other choices in NRW on a Tuesday.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1679704][QUOTE=Danny227;1679615]Thanks BP76! I just started reading some of the reports on the Vienna thread and you are right, it does not look promising. I am thinking to try Magnum Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Likely not your best option on a Tuesday given the other choices in NRW on a Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Not sure how the week lineup is doing at Magnum right now, but Tuesday is not a good day for clubs in general with an exception of a few at the NRW. ACA and GT Bruggen(not Vienna) should be ok, and don't know about the others in the region. Typically, they both have good number in their lineup with GT Bruggen being the best option for daytime as plenty of girls show up on the afternoon in contrast to desolate Magnum during the day. Nice facilites and food is great. Magnum is typically on my visit list on my trips, but I don't visit any other days than Friday or Saturday which are the day that draws lots of girls. Most girls show later in the night. I guess the late night clientel could be a bit sketchy there, but I don't take much notice as I'm too busy trying to figure out where the nice girls are hidden in the damn club. LOL. The layout I'm not particularly fond of.
Worth a try, if you have not been and willing to try out various club.
GT Vinenna is a smaller establishment that the big Hessen club or Artemis. Although, good number of nice bodied Romanians, not the kind you can't find in Germany. I assume the general service level is not up there based on my pickings.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1679615]Thanks BP76! I just started reading some of the reports on the Vienna thread and you are right, it does not look promising. I am thinking to try Magnum Tuesday.[/QUOTE]I confirm Tuesday not the best day for NRW or Hessen FKK, better from Thursday until Sunday, GT and Oase should be the less worse castings on Tuesday or knowing a regular.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1679714]Not sure how the week lineup is doing at Magnum right now, but Tuesday is not a good day for clubs in general with an exception of a few at the NRW. ACA and GT Bruggen(not Vienna) should be ok, and don't know about the others in the region. Typically, they both have good number in their lineup with GT Bruggen being the best option for daytime as plenty of girls show up on the afternoon in contrast to desolate Magnum during the day. Nice facilites and food is great. Magnum is typically on my visit list on my trips, but I don't visit any other days than Friday or Saturday which are the day that draws lots of girls. Most girls show later in the night. I guess the late night clientel could be a bit sketchy there, but I don't take much notice as I'm too busy trying to figure out where the nice girls are hidden in the damn club. LOL. The layout I'm not particularly fond of.
Worth a try, if you have not been and willing to try out various club.
GT Vinenna is a smaller establishment that the big Hessen club or Artemis. Although, good number of nice bodied Romanians, not the kind you can't find in Germany. I assume the general service level is not up there based on my pickings.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys! OK, no Magnum Tuesday. I was planning to do Sakura Thursday and World Friday. Tuesday I may stop by Sharks again. I'll do Magnum and ACA next weekend. I have never been to either and I am trying to expand my club options. Wait, so the Romanian service at GT Vienna is not as good as it is in Germany. Just removed it from my visit list.
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Hi guys,
With all due respect. Is it too much to ask to focus on FKK Artemis in the Artemis thread? No problem mentioning another club now and then but why do you post your travel plans or other info that have nothing to do with Artemis whatsoever?
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Artemis competition
Guys, have been following the thread for a few weeks now in anticipation of a trip back to Artemis next week (last time here was last August). With the exception of an excellent report from Toxteth recently from which I've noted Gina / Samantha and Axena and the other two to miss, I may be missing something but would really appreciate some help from those of you who go to Artemis frequently and have been in the last month. I'm only in Berlin one night (sadly a Tuesday. Not the best night I know but business means that's my lot! I'm wondering if you regulars might be willing to engage in a bit of fun and list your top three experiences in the last month, name of girl, short description of age / body type and quality of service. Might be very useful reading not just for me but for anyone else looking here and thinking of an Artemis trip. Happy to report details in FR and have done so before: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1591295&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1591295 and see comparison of the four biggest clubs in frankfurt [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1620903&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1620903. I copy them in as I'm not a fan of forum readers asking for lots of help and not then giving their own experiences. So happy to report back with sessions / girls / names / details / level of service as usual.
My normal criteria for a girl is:
1. Pretty face.
2. Slim body.
3. No less than bee cups and preferrably see or bigger but don't mind if natural or silicone but prefer natural.
4. Gives great service and has good attitude. This probably should be ranked first as have been down the road of picking the spinner and had awful service and had the complete opposite of great service from a 7/10 girl in looks. The attitude is a lot to me.
5. Not a big fan of BBBJ so that's not big on my list.
6. Like DFK and don't like upsell.
I appreciate my list is probably what 90% here want! I also accept that sometimes not having names lined up and just finding out is part of the fun. But as I only have one night I don't have time for too many mistakes and Toxteth highlighted one disaster! That was really helpful. So. Any chance of the more frequent Artemis punters putting up a short 1st, 2nd and 3rd and maybe one name to avoid! Should be fun to see if you guys agree. I know we all have different tastes so it might be futile but then if everyone puts Gina top I'll know she is a definite!
Would appreciate the help. Many thanks.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1680043]Hi guys,
With all due respect. Is it too much to ask to focus on FKK Artemis in the Artemis thread? No problem mentioning another club now and then but why do you post your travel plans or other info that have nothing to do with Artemis whatsoever?[/QUOTE]The reason, simply being, that the forum is meant for people to help each other. If the knowledgeable people are on this thread and the conversation got side tracked from Artemis to something else, I am sure you can offer the courtesy of skipping a post and finding what you want below. I can't imagine how painful this can be for you that you had to say something, LOL. We are all here to help and share information. In one of the other forums, I even gave a friend a ride for two hours. No need to be petty and impertinent about non sense.
If you have any Artemis questions, please ask away. Artemis is my home club essentially and I know every girl there over the past 2-3 years including these days. So anything you need about Artemis, I am here and will do my best to answer your questions.
Cheers my friend.
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Artemis competition (2)
[QUOTE=Danny227;1680165]
If you have any Artemis questions, please ask away. Artemis is my home club essentially and I know every girl there over the past 2-3 years including these days. So anything you need about Artemis, I am here and will do my best to answer your questions.
[/QUOTE]Hi Danny. Appreciate the offer. Can you pop down to my previous post this evening and let me have your thoughts on your top 3 and maybe one or two to avoid. There next week. Many thanks. PFI.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1680165]If you have any Artemis questions, please ask away. Artemis is my home club essentially and I know every girl there over the past 2-3 years including these days. So anything you need about Artemis, I am here and will do my best to answer your questions.[/QUOTE]Danny,
I'll be heading back to Berlin in July. Perhaps you can help me with some intel.
Firstly, does Holly (busty brunette, German) still work work at Artemis? If so, any particular days?
Secondly, someone told me that a lady I met in 2013 at Globe in Zurich may now be at Artemis. At Globe, she was Giulietta (ROM) Tall, busty (enhanced) blonde – total porn star look. Full-on PSE. A lot of fun, very popular for good reason – unbridled sexual energy. Ring any bells?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;1680240]Firstly, does Holly (busty brunette, German) still work work at Artemis? If so, any particular days? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have seen her a week ago. Evening / night shift mostly. No particular days I know about.
And Danny, no need to make this personal. Its nice of you to be ready to help and be sure you are not the only one who does that. If you want to talk about what you had for breakfast you can of course do so, I am sure you can find the right place for that.
[QUOTE=Danny227]Artemis is my home club essentially and I know every girl there over the past 2-3 years including these days.[/QUOTE]Yeah I remember you were the one who asked about Fatima who BTW is one of the most popular girls for years. I am a regular myself and I do know a lot of the girls. However saying you know every single one of the hundreds of different girls who have been there in recent years is surely one of the funniest statements I ever read.
I personally recommend to try to avoid the busy Messe days at Artemis. If you have no other choice you should try to get together with the girls of your choice before the evening or at least until the early evening hours. I have been there shortly before the Fruit Logistica started and then again later. The girls line up was vast both times. No new girl who is particularly interesting to me. On the other hand, many of my favorite girls like Vegas, Aylin, Nadja, Szoey / Zoe, Loira etc. Were attending so I spent a serious amount of cash and it surely was money well spent.
Since they recently stopped playing music in the rooms upstairs it was a great opportunity for Vegas to bring her own player and music to the room. I know we have already reported about her so no need to get into details again but she still is not only among the hottest girls around, she also is a smart and interesting person and for my taste she provides a perfect mix of GFE and PSE.
With German Turkish beauty Aylin I had a wonderful hour of GFE again. The other girls I went with are also known so nothing new to report this time.
Cheers.
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1680191]Hi Danny. Appreciate the offer. Can you pop down to my previous post this evening and let me have your thoughts on your top 3 and maybe one or two to avoid. There next week. Many thanks. PFI.[/QUOTE]Yup. First of all the avoids: there is a beautiful, stunning Italian. Her name always escapes me. She has black her (always loose, not pony tail) and brown / black eyes. She is tall and absolutely a beauty. She stands out as special and far from regular. She is probably one of two Italians there, so you can't miss her if she approaches you. Do not take her! I took her and she stalled on time and didn't do anything I wanted: her knees hurt. No doggy, her stomach hurt. Not on the stomach, no BBBJ and a 15 seconds CBJ, etc' I got up and wanted to leave the room and she started crying and said I was mean that I want to leave. I sat to relax her and paid her 150 euro. Stay away.
There is an extremely pushy Hungarian with black her and huge lips (the Artemis version of the silvana of Sharks). She has big tits (grew a bit of a stomach too) and she is pushy and gets angry sometimes when you say no (she manages to get guy. Go figure) . Stay away.
Jenna: Huge tits with an over the hill porn star look. Stay a way unless you are in to that.
Carla: I am not a fan. She is tall with black hair with curves. Very pretty face that you notice when she comes very close and looks you in the eyes and asks you very sensually to go up to the room. I fell for it twice, LOL. She is not really bad, but you can do a lot better there, so try to say no if she comes to you.
The takes are:
Carla (other Carla): Romanian. Her body is a work of art. I took her last week for 3. 5 hours. She is deep throating, kissing and we did every position possible (standing, sitting, on the floor, heels, no heels and anything you can imagine). She moves like a snake and that's an understatement. She made me cum with her twisting her hips 1st time after 20 minutes (I usually take at least 40 minutes). I stayed and continued sex for 3. 5 hours. I can't wait to go and take her again. It help for the dynamics and her effort if you say that you want to start with an hour.
Christina: A 21 year old German. Blondish hair and brown eyes. Short. Very sweet and beautiful face. She has a small gap in her teeth. DFK, DATY and all you want. I have been with her 4 times and every time she tops her self. Same thing, tell her that you stay longer, her effort levels increase substantially.
There is a Moldavian girl that I forget her name. Perfect body, short, blonde her, blue eyes (her eyes are a bit stretched, but not fully Asian like), her body is perfect as if it was Michelangelo who drew it, so if it isn't that perfect, It Isn't Her. She has a tendency to sit with a guy for a long time till he take her, she is very relaxed and has patience. She sits in the main floor on the bankets on the wall nearest to where the bartenders enter their bar station. She also goes down once in a while to check the lower level pool area (not all girls do).
Ina: she is Ukranian with black hair and eye. She is curvy in the right places, but firm not soft. Everything goes in the room. No exclusions. Silicon tits. I was with her 5+ times over the last year. I never left disappointed (I like DFK, DATY and more). She also doesn't push you after when she sees you again. She says Hi and kisses you and lets you know that if you want her she is there.
There is a new Asian girl (looks Chinese, but she is from Hamburg). I forget the name, but you can't go wrong because the other Asians look thai or something. This is a barbie doll Chinese andshe does DFK, DATY and fucks like a champ. She is very focused on pleasing you. I took 2. 5 hours to cum and she was superb.
Amalia: She is a blondish romania (30 ish yr old). She is a favorite of many, but a session with her is a lot about chemistry. If you have it, she gives great service. If not, then average. One of my friends is her regular for 2 years and he can't get enough. I was with her twice; first time I saw stars and second was more low key, but still great. Talk with her before and see the chemistry. She stand always, always at the end of the sofas (corner) on the left as you enter and just close to the back door of the lockers (corner) and the beds that close so you can fuck there (You can look for her picture in the website. It is her with shaded face, but definitely her).
Also, Amelia and Amalia is not the same one. Amelia is a short red head. Probably top 5 five BBBJ in the place. No DFK. Very sterile. Not my favorite, but suck like a world champ.
My personal favorite is Erica: black hair, black eyes, short, silicon, great ass, sensational BBBJ, sensational fuck, she will do anything as long as you are being nice about it. I have really nothingto add, but I feel like I am in Disneyland every time I am with her. My friend said she was great, but was not as enthused as I was.
Nina left, but one of the girls told me she will be back, so I am not sure if she will be there, but if she will. Don't hesitate! Take her. She was built for fucking.
Start with Christina or Carla. If the face is more important then take Christina first (talk with her before, show that you will stay an hour and make sure DFK is a go). After these two you'll be smiling from ear to ear for the rest of the night.
I can name more, but these are my personal favorites.
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[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;1680240]Danny,
I'll be heading back to Berlin in July. Perhaps you can help me with some intel.
Firstly, does Holly (busty brunette, German) still work work at Artemis? If so, any particular days?
Secondly, someone told me that a lady I met in 2013 at Globe in Zurich may now be at Artemis. At Globe, she was Giulietta (ROM) Tall, busty (enhanced) blonde total porn star look. Full-on PSE. A lot of fun, very popular for good reason unbridled sexual energy. Ring any bells?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You all probably know this, but I think it is worth mentioning especially regarding Artemis, so just one more thing to add; don't forget that Artemis is the only serious FKK in Berlin and it is home to both locals and even more tourists. If the girl thinks you are a tourist or doesn't know your way around, your session will most likely, not be optimal. They always ask if it a first time there and the answer should be "no, I come here all the time. " It changes everything.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1680165]If you have any Artemis questions, please ask away. Artemis is my home club essentially and I know every girl there over the past 2-3 years including these days. So anything you need about Artemis, I am here and will do my best to answer your questions.[/QUOTE]Hi Danny. The last August I met Natalia. Brunette, romanian, she was wearing glasses before work. Not very tall.
I would like to know if she is working this month, thanks for your help!
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[QUOTE=Eddyzz;1680439]Hi Danny. The last August I met Natalia. Brunette, romanian, she was wearing glasses before work. Not very tall.
I would like to know if she is working this month, thanks for your help![/QUOTE]Hi,
So I know two girls by the name of Natalia and both are there. However, I am not sure if they are the Natalia you mean because they don't wear glasses in side and I have not seen them before work. I like my days full; I go in at 3 pm and leave at 4 am.
One is black hair, not so short (I'd guess 1.65-7 no heels) and her face is evil in an extremely sexy way and she is there. The other is also black hair, shorter and more thin, gentle and she mostly wears hair hair with pony tail and also very pretty face.
BTW; this two are both white skin not the tan Romanians.
These two are there. If they don't fit the girl you mean try to give me more details.
I hope this helps a bit.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1680424]If the girl thinks you are a tourist or doesn't know your way around, your session will most likely, not be optimal. They always ask if it a first time there and the answer should be "no, I come here all the time. " It changes everything.[/QUOTE]This is a worthless generalisation. IMHO.
It's not how often you visit Artemis but how you move around and which girl you bump into.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1680420]Yup. First of all the avoids: there is a beautiful, stunning Italian. Her name always escapes me. She has black her (always loose, not pony tail) and brown / black eyes. She is tall and absolutely a beauty. She stands out as special and far from regular. She is probably one of two Italians there[/QUOTE]Italian? Are we talking of the same club?
Can you remember any of the names or give some precise hint on how to recognize them?
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1680545]Italian? Are we talking of the same club?
Can you remember any of the names or give some precise hint on how to recognize them?
Kimino[/QUOTE]And, yes. In Artemis there are two Italians. They also have a girl from Valencia. Skinny ass like. I don't recall her name too (very long black her that used to be blonde till last month), she does a decent anal. The Italian girl can not be missed as she declares it as a selling point. Wait and see if "Payforit" finds it useful. I bet he will. But just for you, I am in Artemis tomorrow night and I will get her name for you? How is that for 1st class service for you?
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1680545]Italian? Are we talking of the same club?
Can you remember any of the names or give some precise hint on how to recognize them?
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Try to give me more information. I am there tomorrow and will check for you.
Kimino, the important names of who to take are there an they are excellent. I have a hard time recalling those I took a year back and never want again. The fat Hungarian and the Italian are detailed extremely well. Tomorrow you will have the names of both. If you have any more requests for names or information, try to send them in before tomorrow around 2 pm. I might stay for Wednesday as well, depending on work. If I do, you will have another day to submit questions. In any event, I'll post the names before I go to bed so I don't forget.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1680565]And, yes. In Artemis there are two Italians. They also have a girl from Valencia. Skinny ass like. I don't recall her name too (very long black her that used to be blonde till last month), she does a decent anal. The Italian girl can not be missed as she declares it as a selling point. Wait and see if "Payforit" finds it useful. I bet he will. But just for you, I am in Artemis tomorrow night and I will get her name for you? How is that for 1st class service for you?[/QUOTE]Romanians frequently declare that (to non italians) but yeah, I'd appreciate the name.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1680596]Romanians frequently declare that (to non italians) but yeah, I'd appreciate the name.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]That's a good point actually. They may not declare it to Italians, but if you have been there a bit in the recent year, you'll most likely know who she is. She sits by the entrance to the bar itself all the time (by the pillar). Name to come!
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Advice appreciated
[QUOTE=Danny227;1680420]Yup. First of all the avoids:
The takes are:
I can name more, but these are my personal favorites.[/QUOTE]Greatly appreciated. Very helpful and I shall print and take with me as my memory is awful on names!
Many thanks.
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First timer questions
Hello all,
I am going to Berlin in March. I have never gone to an FKK or any prostitute of any type ever. I am eager to check out Artemis, for nothing like this exists in the US.
Questions:
1) Do the women wipe themselves down with a wet towel or something between sessions? Otherwise, they have the sweat, saliva, and semen of the previous man on them, don't they? Isn't this a rather unappealing prospect?
2) I often hear that the women there are very pretty. Is this really true, or are they more like 6's and 7's? I don't mind if her face is a 7, but the body needs to be a 9 for her to be ideal for me.
3) I am aware that photos / videos are obviously not allowed. But is there no provision for a woman to wear a mask (concealing her identity) so that you can videotape the session (to watch when I am in old age)?
And some questions not specific to Artemis but for mongering in general that would be useful at Artemis.
3) What if you are the type of man who gets an erection at the wrong time, but not when you want it (like in a session)? What is a good way to make sure you get the erection in the 30-min session, especially if you want to have 3 sessions in a single visit?
4) With kissing the woman on the mouth, don't you worry about HPV, which is spread orally?
Sorry for the newcomer questions.
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[QUOTE=FromAmerica;1680688]Hello all,
I am going to Berlin in March. I have never gone to an FKK or any prostitute of any type ever. I am eager to check out Artemis, for nothing like this exists in the US.
Questions:
1) Do the women wipe themselves down with a wet towel or something between sessions? Otherwise, they have the sweat, saliva, and semen of the previous man on them, don't they? Isn't this a rather unappealing prospect?
2) I often hear that the women there are very pretty. Is this really true, or are they more like 6's and 7's? I don't mind if her face is a 7, but the body needs to be a 9 for her to be ideal for me.
3) I am aware that photos / videos are obviously not allowed. But is there no provision for a woman to wear a mask (concealing her identity) so that you can videotape the session (to watch when I am in old age)?
And some questions not specific to Artemis but for mongering in general that would be useful at Artemis..[/QUOTE]I'll answer a couple things. The women are generally 6's or 7's compared to the general population of fit women you'd see at a university. They often have nice bodies though (you will find 9's), but many are artificially "enhanced". Don't expect a lot of pretty faces. These women mostly look pretty used up (for obvious reasons).
Assuming you've had sex before, you should have a pretty good idea on how erections work.
If you've had multiple relations, there's a good chance you already have HPV. If I were you I'd be more worried about herpes. Anyway, if you don't already have HPV, you'll most likely get it at a brothel like this.
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Carnival on 11th Feb.
Hello all,
I'm in Berlin now for Berlinale, and I heard that tomorrow (11th) there will be a kind of party. Do anyone know details about this?
Cause its written that who come with mask, will receive a bottle of champagne!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1680614]Greatly appreciated. Very helpful and I shall print and take with me as my memory is awful on names!
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm actually just heading into Artemis now. I'll do my best to fill some name gaps today.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1680596]Romanians frequently declare that (to non italians) but yeah, I'd appreciate the name.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Man, before I forget, Alexia Is the name. I know she is awful and almost went for it again. So beautiful. The fat Hungarian scares the shit out of me. Not asking, LOL.
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Bulgarian girl 27 year old
Hi all,
I need your help I was in Artemis last Saturday and I meet a Bulgarian girl but I lost her name I just know she is blond and she is 27.
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How's the LU during Easter? I really want to make a trip but afraid of bad LU.
Someone knows if LU is acceptable?
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1681007]How's the LU during Easter? I really want to make a trip but afraid of bad LU.
Someone knows if LU is acceptable?[/QUOTE]LU is more than acceptable. Today they have a party there. The only thing is that there is a material service difference (for guys that are in DFK) between Artemis which is a touristic place to places like Sharks, World, Oase, etc'.
But, I was hardly ever disappointed by the line up.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1681151]LU is more than acceptable. Today they have a party there. The only thing is that there is a material service difference (for guys that are in DFK) between Artemis which is a touristic place to places like Sharks, World, Oase, etc'.
But, I was hardly ever disappointed by the line up.[/QUOTE]Thanks Danny!
So it's hard to get DFK w / 30 min sessions? The reason is that I can get much cheaper flight tickets to Berlin as the low-fare airline doesn't fly to Frankfurt.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1681326]Thanks Danny!
So it's hard to get DFK w / 30 min sessions? The reason is that I can get much cheaper flight tickets to Berlin as the low-fare airline doesn't fly to Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]It is possible to get DFK session at Artemis for with a 30 minute session, but it is tougher than the other clubs. That's speaking from my experience. Maybe other people have different experiences. The bahn train service in Germany is great and if you book in advance you can get good prices on train tickets (4-5 hours). A bus to from Berlin to Frankfurt is as low as 19 euro (6. 5 hours).
Also, if you factor in the fact that Artemis is far more expensive than clubs around Frankfurt, for a stay of 2-3 days, you end up the same.
If you get to the Frankfurt area try Oase, Sharks and World. There is lots if info in the other threads.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1681362]It is possible to get DFK session at Artemis for with a 30 minute session, but it is tougher than the other clubs. That's speaking from my experience. Maybe other people have different experiences. The bahn train service in Germany is great and if you book in advance you can get good prices on train tickets (4-5 hours). A bus to from Berlin to Frankfurt is as low as 19 euro (6. 5 hours).
Also, if you factor in the fact that Artemis is far more expensive than clubs around Frankfurt, for a stay of 2-3 days, you end up the same.
If you get to the Frankfurt area try Oase, Sharks and World. There is lots if info in the other threads.[/QUOTE]Did a calculation for a specific date of travel and the result is that I will save about € 140 by going to Berlin instead of Frankfurt. Besides it will probably mean more transportation cost by travelling to the various clubs in and around Frankfurt area.
Really don't want to spend 4-5 hrs on a train when I can play with gals instead, LOL.
Yeah I should take into account the admission fee, € 10 difference for 30 min session and hotel as well.
Haven't decided yet but thanks a lot for your tips and advice. In case I go to Berlin I will let to know and buy you a beer if we meet.
Thing is that I'm planning on a trip to Frankfurt in the summer and I will def. Visit Berlin in Oct since I will run the Berlin marathon.
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Questions from Newcomer
Thanks to SavoySuit for answering some of my questions.
What still remains is:
1) Do the women wipe themselves down with a wet towel or something between sessions? Otherwise, they have the sweat, saliva, and semen of the previous man on them, don't they? Isn't this a rather unappealing prospect?
I guess men who go here often might be desensitized to this sort of thing, but that is sort of gross.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1681423]Did a calculation for a specific date of travel and the result is that I will save about 140 by going to Berlin instead of Frankfurt. Besides it will probably mean more transportation cost by travelling to the various clubs in and around Frankfurt area.
Really don't want to spend 4-5 hrs on a train when I can play with gals instead, LOL.
Yeah I should take into account the admission fee, 10 difference for 30 min session and hotel as well.
Haven't decided yet but thanks a lot for your tips and advice. In case I go to Berlin I will let to know and buy you a beer if we meet.
Thing is that I'm planning on a trip to Frankfurt in the summer and I will def. Visit Berlin in Oct since I will run the Berlin marathon.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
I understand your point. Hotels cost about the same in those areas. It is just 15-20 euros entrance and 10 euros per 30 minutes which adds up to a lot. I usually take the train because that way I am able to get some work done, but a car is a viable option and a rental is around 40 a day. I got to world based on reviews here and the girls are much better. The minus is that if you want to go around during the day, then Berlin is more friendly and fun.
In Artemis, sessions this week were with:
Carla (Romanian, Blondish, athletic, looks 7. 5, service 9, one of my favorites at Artemis) gives a great BBBJ and didn't mind when I held her head in during. Spent 2 hours with extra CIM and I left her a well earned tip as she was really into it. I will 110% repeat.
Raisa (Romanian, pronounced Ra. Isa, Skinny, brunette, 7,4) I don't have too much to say here sexy and a slutty looking. I was sitting on the sofa and she started touching my legs with her heels and worked her way up to between my legs. Very very sexy to a point where I couldn't say no. In the room she was a bit withdrawn and not as warm as in the lounge, anemic BJ, kept wanting to change positions although I sometimes preferred not to. Will not repeat.
Sylvia (Romanian, skinny, brunette, 7,7), I was with her for 1 hour, she gave me a sloppy BBBJ with coming up for air for about 20 minutes. Not great eye contact, she is skinny and tall and looks great in doggy and moves pretty good when riding. She gave great hand job with BBBJ till I came slowly taking every drop and not rushing up to spit it out until I moved her head away. Repeat only because of the great finish.
Sarafina (German, blonde, 9,8) I took her multiple times, but not this week. DFK and DATY is the service I get, but I also stay long. I read a review here a while back that said she didn't do it, so I guess you should ask her before. Individual chemistry I guess or $$ She is 20 and worth a try.
Ina (Ukraine, not this week, 8,8): is always a DFK even 30 minute sessions (lips are injected, so kissing isn't great. At least my opinion, but great body). There are lots of posts here about her, so I won't elaborate, but consistently good service.
Bottom line, if this would be at world or sharks, Carla I would take and maybe Sarafina. I used to go exclusively to Artemis for 2 years, but after being introduced to other clubs, I learned that, on average (individual girl can be exceptions), service varies greatly between clubs. I highly recommend making the trip as it may change your entire experience. It is granted that some people here may not agree with me, but I am speaking only from my personal experience.
Have a great time buddy!
Don't forget to say how it was.
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[QUOTE=FromAmerica;1681522]Thanks to SavoySuit for answering some of my questions.
What still remains is:
1) Do the women wipe themselves down with a wet towel or something between sessions? Otherwise, they have the sweat, saliva, and semen of the previous man on them, don't they? Isn't this a rather unappealing prospect?
I guess men who go here often might be desensitized to this sort of thing, but that is sort of gross.[/QUOTE]Dude,
LOL. These places are clean. Women have there own showers and their own lockers where they bring their own bags with stuff from home. These are not cheap, dirty bordellos! You cab expect that any girl you want to take will be cleaner and better groomed than women you pick up in a bar. If one isn't, don't take her. They have routine doctor checks. The industry is legal here and in the most part, well maintained. Put differently: FKK in male heaven. You'll have a blast and need not worry about cleanliness of girls (in my opinion).
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1681629]Thanks.
I understand your point. Hotels cost about the same in those areas. It is just 15-20 euros entrance and 10 euros per 30 minutes which adds up to a lot. I usually take the train because that way I am able to get some work done, but a car is a viable option and a rental is around 40 a day. I got to world based on reviews here and the girls are much better. The minus is that if you want to go around during the day, then Berlin is more friendly and fun.
Bottom line, if this would be at world or sharks, Carla I would take and maybe Sarafina. I used to go exclusively to Artemis for 2 years, but after being introduced to other clubs, I learned that, on average (individual girl can be exceptions), service varies greatly between clubs. I highly recommend making the trip as it may change your entire experience. It is granted that some people here may not agree with me, but I am speaking only from my personal experience.
Have a great time buddy!
Don't forget to say how it was.[/QUOTE]Still haven't decided where to go during Easter last night I was leaning to Berlin but now I'm willing to give Frankfurt a try, LOL. Reason is that I could more easily make weekend trips to Berlin.
Nah don't need to do other sightseeing besides staying at clubs watching sexy gals.
Thanks for your great report and advice buddy!
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1681676]They have routine doctor checks.[/QUOTE]Some have, others don't. The girls in Artemis are checked as well as girls in Acapulco, Samya and Sakura.
But it is up to the girls in Oase, Palace, Sharks, Golden Time and Livingroom to go for checks themselves, the clubs don't require nor arrange it.
PH
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[QUOTE=PizdaHut;1681751]Some have, others don't. The girls in Artemis are checked as well as girls in Acapulco, Samya and Sakura.
But it is up to the girls in Oase, Palace, Sharks, Golden Time and Livingroom to go for checks themselves, the clubs don't require nor arrange it.
PH[/QUOTE]So in Artemis, Acapulco, Samya and Sakura the clubs require and Oase, Palace, Sharks, Golden Time and Livingroom the club doesn't?
I know from the girls at Artemis and Palace that the club requires. I assumed it's similar across the board for all clubs. Good to know.
One thing is for sure tho, they do shower after sessions, LOL.
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Showers don't stop STI's
[QUOTE=FromAmerica;1681522]Thanks to SavoySuit for answering some of my questions.
What still remains is:
1) Do the women wipe themselves down with a wet towel or something between sessions? Otherwise, they have the sweat, saliva, and semen of the previous man on them, don't they? Isn't this a rather unappealing prospect?
I guess men who go here often might be desensitized to this sort of thing, but that is sort of gross.[/QUOTE]I agree with what the other guys have posted regarding the requirement of checks. Certainly the case at Artemis as I also know from speaking to the ladies and I do know that several of the girls at Oase do likewise though I'm not sure the club insists upon it. However, and without wishing to dampen the mood, the notion that these places are risk free is, respectfully, a misconceived mongers dream! FKK clubs bizarrely operate a policy of BBBJ. You wouldn't get that in most other countries in Europe. Certainly not in the UK and not in most of Spain. The reason is simple: no matter how clean the lady (and I completely agree with Danny that the ladies are very well presented in FKK clubs) if she goes into a room with the first guy and gives him a BBBJ and he has gonorrhea or chlamydia (more likely the former in mouth) there is a good risk that the lady is then infected. She then risks passing (through her body fluids) the same STI to other guys she sessions with that day / week until she gets tested. It is for this reason that some of the girls in these clubs regularly take azithromax (for Chlamydia) and cefixime (for G). I know other mongers who also buy these drugs online to take them to clean out any STI's. They are antibiotics and in several european countries they can be bought over the counter without prescription though I wouldn't advise this at all without knowing the side effects and speaking to your Dr to check you will not have a reaction to them. I doubt the girls do that!
So the notion of FKK being male heaven is certainly true. Being surrounded by many naked lovely girls is indeed heaven but it is not without any risk. Truth is that most very regular punters on here will tell you they've been doing this for x number of years with no problem. How do they know? Most of the STI's in men present with no discernible condition or symptom. So many carriers just don't know they have any issue. The risk of these conditions through oral sex (receiving) is still quite low. But it does exist. The answer is to make sure you use condoms even tho I appreciate BBBJ is a much better feeling. I no longer do DATY (even though I like it!) or BJ without a condom purely because these risks exist. Condoms do not provide 100% guaranteed protection. But significantly more so than risk of you receiving bodily infected through your mouth (DATY) or jap eye (BBBJ).
These risks aside. The girls are most certainly clean in my experience, smell good, look good, and fuck even better!
You take risks every time you cross a road or drive a car. Probably more of one than having an uncovered BJ. But telling the wife if you get the STI might be more painful that a minor car bump!! It's for you to decide. But if you are nervous about this stuff. Stay covered for oral or penetrative sex and you'll still have a brilliant time in your experiences in FKK clubs in Germany. They are indeed the best mongering there is. Enjoy!
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Safe sex forum
There is a safe sex part of this forum.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?268-Safe-Sex[/URL]
Feel free to continue this discussion there.
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Thursday
Tried Delia (dalia maybe). New for me, romanian, red hair, glasses. Nice body and face. Was an ok plain vanilla session. Maybe not memorable but still recommended.
Then some of my regulars. At around 3 am had a threesome with Ruby and Cecile. I'm normally not too much into this kind of stuff, but I like both girls a lot and even just for the visual I thought it could be a nice thing. Turned out to be the nicest session of the day, lots of fun and good sex, I knew the girls get along well together. No lesbian show bullshit, just good sex and a lot of laughing. As usual I dropped one of the too girls after the first half hour (Cecile) and ended with Ruby.
For the rest, kind of a calm day and nice meeting up with a couple of Isgers.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1681750]Still haven't decided where to go during Easter last night I was leaning to Berlin but now I'm willing to give Frankfurt a try, LOL. Reason is that I could more easily make weekend trips to Berlin.
Nah don't need to do other sightseeing besides staying at clubs watching sexy gals.
Thanks for your great report and advice buddy![/QUOTE]Super. The earlier you book trains and hotels, the cheaper it is. Bahn has a 3 month promotion (you pay 15 euro's and get 25% discount on your rides). This things add up to major discounts.
I don't know if there is a thread for this as this is a bit off the Artemis topic. Apologies guys.
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[QUOTE=SavoySuit;1681966]Yes, best to talk about in the forum where almost nobody posts. Productive![/QUOTE]All these different threads are such a bore. There should just be one giant thread for the whole Forum, called "Stuff". Then people post whatever, wherever, and then if you are really interested, you search for keywords. Why organise information by demand or frequency of use when all can just be now?
Oh wait, could that actually aid in being productive?
STDs / STIs left untreated, eventually infect the mind.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1681968]Tried Delia (dalia maybe). New for me, romanian, red hair, glasses. Nice body and face. Was an ok plain vanilla session.[/QUOTE]IMHO Dalia, but I'm not sure, too.
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Art e misses
Couple of questions for the regulars / Danny etc:
1. Which day is Dessous at Artemis. I'm there Tuesday and hoping it's not tuesdays!
2. Anyone there over the last weekend with any particularly good sessions and if so can you shout out with some lady names and details please. Dannys recent recommendations all sound good / Carla / Christina / Sarafina / Amalia. Do others agree / disagree / have any particular favourites? Shame Artemis doesn't have the themed zimmers you find in Sharks in FRA. Egyptian room and BDSM room. Nice twists and always fun. I know it has the room with the round bed. But does anyone know of any of the rooms having special facilities?
Cheers.
PFI.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1682720]1. Which day is Dessous at Artemis. I'm there Tuesday and hoping it's not tuesdays!
[/QUOTE]Wednesday.
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[QUOTE=Kvaser;1258906]Are you serious? I thought ALL major clubs explicitly forbad guests to bring cell phones to the club as pretty much all modern phones nowadays have a camera installed.[/QUOTE]From my experience I can name Goldentime Brüggen and FKK Livingroom. In both places you can use your laptop. Tablet or cell phone all day. The WiFi is for free.
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Wednesday 25th
Anyone off here visiting evening of Wednesday 25th? Also, last time I was there about 3 months ago, also on a Wednesday, there was a sexy back girl working. She was hanging out with Lisa, from Dominican republic. Anyone know who she is and if she provides good service.
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[QUOTE=Tommie1984;1683404]Also, last time I was there about 3 months ago, also on a Wednesday, there was a sexy back girl working. She was hanging out with Lisa, from Dominican republic. Anyone know who she is and if she provides good service.[/QUOTE]Maybe Beatrice, Brazil. Didn't try her, sorry.
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It's not Beatrice. I have met her and this girl has a darker complexion.
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Condoms
Can I bring my own condoms to Artemis?
Planing a trip next week.
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[QUOTE=Puttex;1684658]Can I bring my own condoms to Artemis?
Planing a trip next week.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can and most girls will be OK with letting you use them. I've done it. Ask the girl if it's OK and show her the condom in the unopened package for her approval. Some girls may say no, they prefer to use their own brand. You can also bring your own lube. I like to use lube and once when I forgot to bring it, the girl's supply of lube was empty. I missed having it and so I make sure to bring my own supply.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1681841]I agree with what the other guys have posted regarding the requirement of checks. Certainly the case at Artemis as I also know from speaking to the ladies and I do know that several of the girls at Oase do likewise though I'm not sure the club insists upon it. However, and without wishing to dampen the mood, the notion that these places are risk free is, respectfully, a misconceived mongers dream! FKK clubs bizarrely operate a policy of BBBJ. You wouldn't get that in most other countries in Europe. Certainly not in the UK and not in most of Spain. The reason is simple: no matter how clean the lady (and I completely agree with Danny that the ladies are very well presented in FKK clubs) if she goes into a room with the first guy and gives him a BBBJ and he has gonorrhea or chlamydia (more likely the former in mouth) there is a good risk that the lady is then infected. She then risks passing (through her body fluids) the same STI to other guys she sessions with that day / week until she gets tested. It is for this reason that some of the girls in these clubs regularly take azithromax (for Chlamydia) and cefixime (for G). I know other mongers who also buy these drugs online to take them to clean out any STI's. They are antibiotics and in several european countries they can be bought over the counter without prescription though I wouldn't advise this at all without knowing the side effects and speaking to your Dr to check you will not have a reaction to them. I doubt the girls do that!
So the notion of FKK being male heaven is certainly true. Being surrounded by many naked lovely girls is indeed heaven but it is not without any risk. Truth is that most very regular punters on here will tell you they've been doing this for x number of years with no problem. How do they know? Most of the STI's in men present with no discernible condition or symptom. So many carriers just don't know they have any issue. The risk of these conditions through oral sex (receiving) is still quite low. But it does exist. The answer is to make sure you use condoms even tho I appreciate BBBJ is a much better feeling. I no longer do DATY (even though I like it!) or BJ without a condom purely because these risks exist. Condoms do not provide 100% guaranteed protection. But significantly more so than risk of you receiving bodily infected through your mouth (DATY) or jap eye (BBBJ).
These risks aside. The girls are most certainly clean in my experience, smell good, look good, and fuck even better!
You take risks every time you cross a road or drive a car. Probably more of one than having an uncovered BJ. But telling the wife if you get the STI might be more painful that a minor car bump!! It's for you to decide. But if you are nervous about this stuff. Stay covered for oral or penetrative sex and you'll still have a brilliant time in your experiences in FKK clubs in Germany. They are indeed the best mongering there is. Enjoy![/QUOTE]If a person has no STD the chance of transmission is 0%. The reason BBBJ is not allowed in other countries is because of political and religious influence or the girls don't like doing it so they get a lobby group to make laws against it. I don't know about CIM. I guess that would be more riskier but that affects the girls and they're unlikely to transmit. So I don't really care. They can take anti-biotic or get a proper job like a normal person if they cannot tolerate the risk.
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Fri trip
Joy, 2 days in the house, from Hamburg. 23 yr old. Brownish reddish hair, blue eyes. Very cute. Lots of tats and a piercing on the upper front teeth. Was wearing a small dress and high heel boots up until 10 cm above the knees. Very sexy. In the room she was ok with all stuff and light kissing. Had an hour + CIM. Enjoyable session, very responsive. I could probably repeat and I feel to recommend her. I do think YMMV quite a lot with this chick.
For the rest, all girls I already reported in the past and nothing new to mention. Alicia, Jay Jay (I'll never learn her name), Carrie. Quite a bunch of people last night, at 3:30 the place was still full.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1685239]Joy, 2 days in the house, from Hamburg. 23 yr old. Brownish reddish hair, blue eyes. Very cute. Lots of tats and a piercing on the upper front teeth. Was wearing a small dress and high heel boots up until 10 cm above the knees. Very sexy. In the room she was ok with all stuff and light kissing. Had an hour + CIM. Enjoyable session, very responsive. I could probably repeat and I feel to recommend her. I do think YMMV quite a lot with this chick.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that report Kimino. I had seen her coming in on her first day and we had a lenghtly very nice talk. She said she worked at FKK Babylon in Hamburg before. I found her sweet but I already had my dates planned that night so no zimmer with her back then. There was one other new slim German brunette girl I considered taking upstairs but didn't talk to her. The new girls were mostly not my type so I sticked to the gorgeous ones I already know and always spend a good time with. Loira, Szoey / Zoe, Aylin and Nadja are among those I like a lot and have a good chemistry with so no need to go with someone new for me unless they are highly attractive to me.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1685260]Thank you for that report Kimino. I had seen her coming in on her first day and we had a lenghtly very nice talk. She said she worked at FKK Babylon in Hamburg before. I found her sweet but I already had my dates planned that night so no zimmer with her back then. There was one other new slim German brunette girl I considered taking upstairs but didn't talk to her. The new girls were mostly not my type so I sticked to the gorgeous ones I already know and always spend a good time with. Loira, Szoey / Zoe, Aylin and Nadja are among those I like a lot and have a good chemistry with so no need to go with someone new for me unless they are highly attractive to me.[/QUOTE]Ciao Diplomat! Yep, give her a spin, I think you will like her. Actually she told me she worked in Atmos but I'm not sure.
I did spot another interesting new entry, maybe it's the one you also noticed. Wavy long hair, wearing garter, stockings a kind of bra, lots of tattoos, very cute, german for sure. I was considering trying her but got a strange vibe and not being able to convince my wingman it was his turn to experiment, LOL, I gave up because didn't want to risk going from Joy to no joy. One new girl per trip is more than enough.
I also spotted a group of 4 totally new girls, young, but none very exciting.
Kimino.
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I'll be at The A. With a bit of luck on Thursday. Anyone know if Avril is working these days?
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1685653]I'll be at The A. With a bit of luck on Thursday. Anyone know if Avril is working these days?[/QUOTE]I saw her last Wednesday. There is no way of knowing in advance if a girl will be working at any date in the future.
I recommend calling the reception and asking if the is at Artemis before your arrival there. If a girl is actually working they can only guarantee after the beginning of her shift.
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1685653]I'll be at The A. With a bit of luck on Thursday. Anyone know if Avril is working these days?[/QUOTE]Was there Friday.
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Iman
Hi all,
Does anyone knows of she's still around? She's like my wildest fantasy and on my list visit in December I didn't see her.
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Re-entry?
Can you leave Artemis and come back the same day, without paying an extra fee?
I'd like to break up my day, e. G. By going out for a nice dinner, then come back to continue the fun.
I've tried to search but this is a difficult concept to search for; the words are too common.
Cheers
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Secrets of the Universe-continued
[QUOTE=TMan128;1685873]Can you leave Artemis and come back the same day, without paying an extra fee?
I've tried to search but this is a difficult concept to search for; the words are too common.
[/QUOTE]So. I used an obscure search engine called Google. Someone (Larry Page or something) said it can be helpful to look at the interweb. I put in the not so common words "return to Artemis later same day" and unbelievably, the first suggestion was to consult the Artemis homepage.
Can you imagine; they have their own home page!? On that very page is a small section called "ENTRANCE" which miraculously describes, in great detail, the secret, intricate ritual needed to exit and return later the same day. To quote: "The day ticket also entitles you to leave the premises, deposit your key and return by 4 a.m.!" So you just tell the reception what you want to do, they will keep your key, note your nom de poon and the number you have for the day. When you return, you say your name, the key number, and presto, the next round of mondo muschi begins.
Well worth a read.
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[QUOTE=TMan128;1685873]Can you leave Artemis and come back the same day, without paying an extra fee?
I'd like to break up my day, e. G. By going out for a nice dinner, then come back to continue the fun.
I've tried to search but this is a difficult concept to search for; the words are too common.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Yes that's possible.
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Yes, lock your robe in your locker and after changing go to the front desk and ask to leave a return.
They will ask you to sign and keep your key until you return.
[QUOTE=TMan128;1685873]Can you leave Artemis and come back the same day, without paying an extra fee?
I'd like to break up my day, e. G. By going out for a nice dinner, then come back to continue the fun.
I've tried to search but this is a difficult concept to search for; the words are too common.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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Sarcasm Wannabe
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1685958]So. I used an obscure search engine called Google. Someone (Larry Page or something) said it can be helpful to look at the interweb. I put in the not so common words "return to Artemis later same day" and unbelievably, the first suggestion was to consult the Artemis homepage.
Can you imagine; they have their own home page!? On that very page is a small section called "ENTRANCE" which miraculously describes, in great detail, the secret, intricate ritual needed to exit and return later the same day. To quote: "The day ticket also entitles you to leave the premises, deposit your key and return by 4 a.m.!" So you just tell the reception what you want to do, they will keep your key, note your nom de poon and the number you have for the day. When you return, you say your name, the key number, and presto, the next round of mondo muschi begins.
Well worth a read.[/QUOTE]So, I am no expert, but I believe I have read a bit of sarcasm in this post. If only their website was in English.
Rush.
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Profi
[QUOTE=RushRider;1686356]So, I am no expert, but I believe I have read a bit of sarcasm in this post. If only their website was in English.Rush.[/QUOTE]A bit??? Well you have indeed grasped part of the essential concept.
Uh, the Art's website defaults to English. The info was / is on the very first page that comes up when you click on enter. Just read the ENTRANCE section. Otherwise, if you are particularly challenged:
[URL]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?langswitch_lang=en[/URL]
We are clearly doomed as a species.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1686380]A bit??? Well you have indeed grasped part of the essential concept.
Uh, the Art's website defaults to English. The info was / is on the very first page that comes up when you click on enter. Just read the ENTRANCE section. Otherwise, if you are particularly challenged:
[URL]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/?langswitch_lang=en[/URL]
We are clearly doomed as a species.[/QUOTE]It's easier to say yes, and save the unnecessary posts.
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Oh the banter the banter
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1686386]It's easier to say yes, and save the unnecessary posts.[/QUOTE]Not sure I agree with the "unnecessary posts" comment. I actually liked the RB post: it was sarcastic but I found it quite funny! See'Mon. A bit of banter here and there hurts nobody! Sure he was making the point that a quick search produced a quick result and maybe TMan128 should have made that check first but actually he isn't in the wrong either here. The forum should be for asking for information from others with greater knowledge of the venue. That's all he was asking and so what if he decided not to Google instead? Would have been quicker I suppose but then not everything on the Google results, nor indeed the websites is accurate. Half the girls commented upon in this forum are not shown on the Artemis website and indeed I was there last week and clearly some of the girls present are not on the site. So no issue with TMan asking the question and let's not beat up on RB for a quippy response!
The visit last week: Thanks to previous posts from Danny I sampled the delights of Erica. Not the youngest in the club, dark hair 7/10 with sillies but attitude and service 10/10.
Also sessioned with Laura. Blonde / tall / pony tail / see cups in black lace top. Looks 8/10, body 9/10 and attitude and service 10/10. Both great girls.
Food was average, good line up for midweek.
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Stick it up.
If we had a sticky post at the beginning of this thread, titled something like "Read this before posing any question" it could be helpful.
The post could contain all the basic stuff about Artemis. Prices, locker handling, in and outs, extras, a special "where is nina" section, public transport, is it safe to walk to the subway, cellphones allowed, search thread functionality, the underwear beneath the robe issue, will it be crowded during Ifa, orthodox or not, etc. Etc.
Having this would mean we will only have to deal with occasional "can I come 9 times during a 30 min session", a couple of legitimate std panic situation and some Frankfurt is better talk, but for the rest we should be ok. On the other side, this would probably drop the number of "reports" by roughly 70/80%. LOL.
Obviously joking a bit. I do think it would be very useful for people hitting the thread for the first time. Searching is not that easy, especially in a thread full of non relevant (or off topic) information.
My2 cents.
Kimino.
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To Dream the Impossible Dream
[QUOTE=Kimino;1686636]If we had a sticky post at the beginning of this thread, titled something like "Read this before posing any question" it could be helpful.
The post could contain all the basic stuff about Artemis. Prices, locker handling, in and outs, extras, a special "where is nina" section, public transport, is it safe to walk to the subway, cellphones allowed, search thread functionality, the underwear beneath the robe issue, will it be crowded during Ifa, orthodox or not, etc. Etc.
Having this would mean we will only have to deal with occasional "can I come 9 times during a 30 min session", a couple of legitimate std panic situation and some Frankfurt is better talk, but for the rest we should be ok. On the other side, this would probably drop the number of "reports" by roughly 70/80%. LOL.
[/QUOTE]You could do all that stuff, for sure. We could endure all that hassle and angst towards this just and noble cause...... OR:
We could just bring back Angus! :)
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1686636]If we had a sticky post at the beginning of this thread, titled something like "Read this before posing any question" it could be helpful.
The post could contain all the basic stuff about Artemis. Prices, locker handling, in and outs, extras, a special "where is nina" section, public transport, is it safe to walk to the subway, cellphones allowed, search thread functionality, the underwear beneath the robe issue, will it be crowded during Ifa, orthodox or not, etc. Etc.
Having this would mean we will only have to deal with occasional "can I come 9 times during a 30 min session", a couple of legitimate std panic situation and some Frankfurt is better talk, but for the rest we should be ok. On the other side, this would probably drop the number of "reports" by roughly 70/80%. LOL.
Obviously joking a bit. I do think it would be very useful for people hitting the thread for the first time. Searching is not that easy, especially in a thread full of non relevant (or off topic) information.
My2 cents.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Everyone is new to something or some place at least once in his life so no problem if people are asking for advice, but since a few of us are making the effort of reporting and answering questions, the least new people and even some not so new people should make the effort to search before posing questions that have been asked many times. I am all for posting such an Artemis FAQ info and then try to redirect all the repeating requests there. I am ready to contribute to that FAQ if needed.
We are always focussing on helping newbies but for experienced mongers it really gets boring saying the same things over and over again. About RB's post I find myself many times thinking like him on certain issues but I have to say he has a much funnier and more diplomatic way of saying it.
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1686636]If we had a sticky post at the beginning of this thread, titled something like "Read this before posing any question" it could be helpful.[/QUOTE]I asked this question of Admin about a year ago, and was told that they were testing some forum software option to allow for maintainable WikiPosts like you suggest.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=1529912&viewfull=1#post1529912[/URL]
But, nothing seemed to come of it. I volunteered to set up the initial entry for Globe in Zurich, and I'm sure others would be willing to do the same for Artemis, Oase, etc.
I agree, it would be a blessing.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1686646]You could do all that stuff, for sure. We could endure all that hassle and angst towards this just and noble cause...... OR:
We could just bring back Angus! :)[/QUOTE]Exactly. Thumbs up! :)
Kimino.
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Redheads?
Going to Artemis in a couple of weeks, will be my very first time there.
Are there any good redheads in the crowd? I do like the occasional redhead now and then. Light skinned, pink nips, freckles the lot.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1681750]Still haven't decided where to go during Easter last night I was leaning to Berlin but now I'm willing to give Frankfurt a try, LOL. Reason is that I could more easily make weekend trips to Berlin.
Nah don't need to do other sightseeing besides staying at clubs watching sexy gals.
Thanks for your great report and advice buddy![/QUOTE]I'm guessing you come from Scandinavia like me and fly nas?
Well, in 4 out of 5 cases Artemis and Berlin is the best place to go. But like you say, it might be OK to go to Frankfurt for 1 week and check out a few clubs there. Then again, when you are in Frankfurt it is not that far to Stuttgart, cologne and Dusseldorf either. As for me, the only Hessen club I like is Palace, and the girls there can be a minefield unless you know them. Oase can be nice in the summer too I guess. But not when its cold. Same goes for a few of the other clubs in the area.
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1686686]
Are there any good redheads in the crowd? I do like the occasional redhead now and then. Light skinned, pink nips, freckles the lot.[/QUOTE]I'd travel an extra hour for a good redhead. Two if she has puffy pink nips.
But they are as rare as teeth on a hen. It almost seems like there are fewer redheads in FKKs than in the general population. Actually, given the density of Romanians, that's probably not so surprising.
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1686686]
Are there any good redheads in the crowd? I do like the occasional redhead now and then. Light skinned, pink nips, freckles the lot.[/QUOTE]Zoe definately has what you are asking for.
Redhead, dyed for sure, but still red, almost purple.
Body is fantastic, service as well.
Lots of tattoos.
I have sessioned with her all three times I have visited Artemis, not been disappointed yet.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1687370]I'd travel an extra hour for a good redhead. Two if she has puffy pink nips.
But they are as rare as teeth on a hen. It almost seems like there are fewer redheads in FKKs than in the general population. Actually, given the density of Romanians, that's probably not so surprising.[/QUOTE]I am with you on that note. Would go a long way for that. Maybe we should start a thread for redhead-spotting, as the good ones are seemingly as rare as unicorns.
Last year in FKK Villa (Hannover), I did see come across one of the really rare ones. Puffy pinkys, near paper white skin and even a small Bush to prove this was the real deal. She had some white long boots on, where it was difficult to tell where her legs ended and the boots started. She was that pale. Unfortunately she sat with a newbie monger who burnt money on champagne, but seem to take forever closing in the deal. I went for a BJ in the cinema but saving the pop hoping she would be free soon afterwards. But I never managed to find her again, and the sight has of her has haunted me ever since. Damn.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1687448]Zoe definately has what you are asking for.
Redhead, dyed for sure, but still red, almost purple.
Body is fantastic, service as well.
Lots of tattoos.
I have sessioned with her all three times I have visited Artemis, not been disappointed yet.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up mate. Normally I get a bit intimidated by girls with lots of tattoos, but will keep an eye out for her.
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Thursday, 26th February
To borrow a phrase from Kimino, today was something of an economic disaster. I used the ATM in the club for the first time a bad sign. Fortunately it has a maximum withdrawal of 200 euros.
I approached my visit in an unexplainably melancholy mood. It is two months since my last visit, but I was tempted to bail out and see some Berlin sights instead; it was a beautiful day. However, I powered on through and entered the club at 1 pm.
I paid my fee and was handed the usual shabby robe maybe the new robes are the smaller sizes only?
Given my mood, I decided to mix things up a bit and try some new girls, and some from the 'to do' list. As it happened, all day I only saw three girls with whom I have roomed before. Gabriella, Valesca and the always to be avoided Amina.
I surprised myself with my energy, so today's report is a longer list than usual. Apologies in advance to Rocketboy if I have once or twice strayed a little close to a letter to Penthouse.
1. First up was Zoe, Berlin. I don't really go for silicone and tattoos, but Zoe has always struck me as friendly, as well as hot. Zoe was great, but demonstrated perfectly that YMMV. The chemistry was just not there. We had an hour, and were busy all the way through, but I think both of us were pretty bored by the end. I can't explain why as what's not to like? A nice boob job, a hot body, a sunny disposition, and a service minded attitude, but it just didn't come together for me.
2. Round two was Avia, Hamburg. I was not put off from furthering my study of implants and decided on Avia. A great look for me with a very pretty face, dark hair and slim figure. It wasn't until I got to the room that I noticed that she had taped her boobs at the seams, following a slight fix to her implants. A bit weird. The chemistry was better and we had a great hour. I had more success in explaining what I wanted, and I would definitely repeat.
3. Third was Mila, Latvia. I have long wanted to have a session with her; she looks great, and was recommendation from Nina. However, I have always found her aloof in that she does not walk the room, and never reacts when I look her way. I couldn't have been more wrong. I was helped to break the ice by the fact that we both went to sit on the same sofa, at the same time. So we got to talking. She was immediately engaging, with a sparkling smile and more conversation than the usual name, hometown, and frequency of visit. I had not long finished with Avia, but went to the room again anyway. A thirty minute session was memorable for an excellent blow job.
4. Next was Gina, Namibia. I am a little suspicious about where she is from; her English is very natural, so South Africa seemed more likely. Anyway, a 90 minute session ensued, which was the best of the day. Gina is a real beauty, but I suspect that she not very forthcoming in most sessions. I think I stumbled on the right approach by accident. As I had already had a busy day, I had asked that we take it slow, and relax together for a while. Probably the best part of an hours' worth of mutual masturbation meant that Gina was orgasmed and putty in my hands. The final 30 minutes of sex was great. Gina really seemed to let herself go.
5. In a switch of pace, I couldn't resist Avril, Romania, having watched her wave her ass time and again at me, whilst knelt on a barstool downstairs. Our 30 minute session was just ok; she is too much of a livewire for me. As well as a compulsive cleaner. She collected a few towels and empty glasses on the way to and from the room demanding bonbons from the bar staff in return. A wonderful body though.
6. To be honest, I didn't really need another session, but thought that I may as well go for a personal best. The final event was an hour with Alisha, Hungary. She is super cute, and super friendly. Almost as energetic as Avril, but manages to hold it in check a little better. We started with a surprisingly good massage, and sex in a few positions, most memorably reverse cow girl.
I have usually left the club by 7 pm, but tonight decided to stay to experience the evening vibe and watch the dancers. The cage dancer was ok, but the pole dancer was terrific. The food this evening was good enough for two servings to be had I was in much need of some calories. My late stay also resulted in my first experience of waiting for a room, but it was never too long. I noticed that the bedsheets have been dropped again, and we're back to screwing on towels.
The music was good throughout the day, if a little too much Ed Sheeran. That did create a funny moment with Mila though, as within a few minutes of us discussing Nina, Sheeran's track 'Nina' was playing in the bar.
I left just after midnight and was glad that I went through with the visit.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1687565]To borrow a phrase from Kimino, today was something of an economic disaster..[/QUOTE]Money is to be spent! LOL.
Thanks for the report.
Kimino.
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The Iceman Cometh
[QUOTE=Frozty;1687565]Apologies in advance to Rocketboy if I have once or twice strayed a little close to a letter to Penthouse.
[/QUOTE]Not at all. Nice reports, the way they should be, just enough color to paint the picture without droning on. Money, and I guess junk, well spent.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1687210]I'm guessing you come from scandinavia like me and fly nas?
Well, in 4 out of 5 cases artemis and Berlin is the best place to go. But like you say, it might be ok to go to frankfurt for 1 week and check out a few clubs there. Then again, when you are in frankfurt it is not that far to stuttgart, cologne and dusseldorf either. As for me, the only hessen club I like is Palace, and the girls there can be a minefield unless you know them. Oase can be nice in the summer too I guess. But not when its cold. Same goes for a few of the other clubs in the area.[/QUOTE]Good guessing I live in the greatest country of cross country skiers and would usually fly nas, however would've to resort using sas if I want to go to FRA.
Seems like there are a lot more silicon in Artemis, but I prefer naturals.
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[B]26/02/2015[/B]
Paid a quick visit to the club on Thursday. I arrived around 15.00 and the place was pretty quiet. The only girls I recognised were Jenna (I think her tits have increased in size since the last time I saw here) and the girl who looks like Rihana. I chilled for a while, had a sauna and hung out in the bar when I saw my #1 Artemis girl Avril. After a chat and a catch up we headed upstairs.
[B]Avril - Romania[/B]
I won't go into detail but this was another wonderful session with a wonderful girl. Nice and slow to start but hard and fast when required. 100% repeat when I'm next in The Artemis.
I was a little wiped out after my time with Avril so I did the usual downstairs relaxation stuff; swim, sauna etc. Then I decided to find my second session.
After knocking back a few approaches I got chatting with Svenna from Germany. Who I had been with a couple of times in the past so I decided to take her over the jumps.
[B] Svenna - Germany[/B]
This was a good session with a fine pro. She's a tall German girl with a great smile and small, fake tits.
Nothing unusual about the session. Just 30 minutes of good sex with a CIM finish. I probably won't repeat but she's a decent worker.
Had some decent food before going for my third session. I looked for some of my favourites (Avril, Alisha or Amalia) but couldn't see them so decided to go for a new girl.
I spotted a petite, dark haired cutie. So after a little chat to clarify some stuff we headed upstairs.
[B]Brianna - Spain [/B]
Small boobs, tiny waist, great ass and a very pretty face all make up Brianna from Spain. This was a superb session. Reading some other reports of this girl it seems she is fond of upselling but I didn't experience that. Just 30 minutes of fun, sweaty sex. Her blowjob skills are superb and as this was my third session of the day I wasn't going to finish quickly. She was able to take a proper pounding and we finished up a sweaty, panting mess. Brilliant session and I will definitely grab Brianna if I see her again.
That was it for me. I left around 21.00 and the place wasn't too busy. I had a great day and I'll be back when the weather is a bit better.
Thanks for reading.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1687786]Seems like there are a lot more silicon in Artemis, but I prefer naturals.[/QUOTE]Actually I too am getting the impression from reading these posts that there must a lot of silicon in Artemis. I'll be in Berlin in a few weeks, and I'm hoping to find some natural, girl-next-door girls in Artemis. Are there any?
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[QUOTE=Falco2;1687906]Actually I too am getting the impression from reading these posts that there must a lot of silicon in Artemis. I'll be in Berlin in a few weeks, and I'm hoping to find some natural, girl-next-door girls in Artemis. Are there any?[/QUOTE]My recent report implied that there was lots of silicone in the house. Be assured that there is something for everyone. There were plenty of natural girls. Some I would describe as girl next door. I particularly remember Nora from Hungary, who I really wanted to try.
I was struck again by the variety on offer. The only thing missing was that there seemed few Asian girls. I don't recall seeing even one.
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Will be going to Berlin for first time soon. Will likely visit Artemis for first time as well.
Just to set my expectation level correctly, what percentage can I expect LFK, DFK, and BBBJ from? And is quality possible with a 1/2 hour, or does 1 hour usually make a big difference? I mean this to be specific to Artemis, not in general.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1688136]Will be going to Berlin for first time soon. Will likely visit Artemis for first time as well.
Just to set my expectation level correctly, what percentage can I expect LFK, DFK, and BBBJ from? And is quality possible with a 1/2 hour, or does 1 hour usually make a big difference? I mean this to be specific to Artemis, not in general.[/QUOTE]LFK and DFK is available, but not easy to find (<20% Fatima always starts a session with kissing, but few others offer it up. In my experience, it is the one thing that you must check in advance. I used to look hard for it, but now that I am more used to the scene, I am less bothered. For great DFK, I am once again reminded of Nina, but must now go and punish myself for mentioning her again.
BBBJ is absolutely 100% standard; you don't even need to ask.
Some girls change behaviour with a short session. Avril told me this week that she tries to give better service for a customer who stays longer. Mila, on the other hand, had no expectations other than a 30 minute session, and gave great service. Overall, I think one hour does bring better service. However, chemistry is probably more important.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1688140]LFK and DFK is available, but not easy to find (<20% Fatima always starts a session with kissing, but few others offer it up. In my experience, it is the one thing that you must check in advance. I used to look hard for it, but now that I am more used to the scene, I am less bothered. For great DFK, I am once again reminded of Nina, but must now go and punish myself for mentioning her again.[/QUOTE]Any news on if Nina will come back? Think you mentioned in another post that she might be back.
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Hey thanks, exactly the focused feedback I was looking for. I guess I should scan here for specific girls, but to be honest that never seems to work out so well for me. It sounds like Artemis is big enough that trying to find a few specific girls by name and description may be difficult.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1688148]Any news on if Nina will come back? Think you mentioned in another post that she might be back.[/QUOTE]No, she won't be back. Retired and married.
Good for her.
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Safari
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1687786]Seems like there are a lot more silicon in Artemis, but I prefer naturals.[/QUOTE]Speaking of naturals, is the Bush getting back in fashion with some of the girls?
Obviously no one wants a trip to the 70's, but I for one get a bit turned on by some small trimmed piece of Bush.
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1688219]Speaking of naturals, is the Bush getting back in fashion with some of the girls?
Obviously no one wants a trip to the 70's, but I for one get a bit turned on by some small trimmed piece of Bush.[/QUOTE]No. I think the majority have had laser treatment. Only Fatima bucks the trend with her small landing strip.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1688174]No, she won't be back. Retired and married.
Good for her.[/QUOTE]I will miss her, but really wish her all the best in her new life.
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Drinks in area
Hi guys,
Thanks for punter's fantastic job (Artemis should all buy you some rounds!
I ve been visiting the place a few times already and love it.
This time, I m taking a few buddies earlier than usual (early PM), and want to use the "Get back in" option to get out after few sessions, get a few drinks before going back in later.
I have not seen any relevant places to get decent drinks in the area. Or have I missed them? Where would you suggest to go if any of you have done it? Nothing fancy. Beerstube or else.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1688174]No, she won't be back. Retired and married.
Good for her.[/QUOTE]Oh well, I'm really going to miss her!
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Sex allowed in outdoor area?
Not now, but in the summer of course. I enjoy having public sex, and it would be much nicer doing it outdoors in good lighting than in the dark of the kinos. In the gardens of some other clubs there are semi-secluded areas where you can enjoy female companionship of the physical variety, but what about Artemis? Are there hard and fast rules or up to the ladies to decide?
I have googled the subject frantically, but have so far not come up with a definitive answer.
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Yes it's allowed.
I did it last summer.
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Nina cz
[QUOTE=Frozty;1688174]No, she won't be back. Retired and married.
Good for her.[/QUOTE]For the memories. Nina CZ.
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[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1689201]Yes it's allowed.
I did it last summer.[/QUOTE]And I was watching.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1689551]And I was watching.[/QUOTE]You can also watch from the S-Bahn LOL.
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Are you sure? And with which girl you saw me?
Big brother is watching you everywhere and every time.
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[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1689606]Are you sure? And with which girl you saw me?
Big brother is watching you everywhere and everytime (laugh):-).[/QUOTE]I think her name is Jenna, not sure though. Very big round tits. She had blond hair that day, which was my first visit to Artemis.
I am not 100% sure, but I think I have seen her with black hair afterwards?
You were the one who told me it was you playing with her in the sofa in the sun.
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Just to clear something once and for all Briana is a nice very nice girl but she's Romanin and not from Spain, she has nothing to do with Spain.
[QUOTE=Galazy2;1687874][B]26/02/2015[/B]
Paid a quick visit to the club on Thursday. I arrived around 15.00 and the place was pretty quiet. The only girls I recognised were Jenna (I think her tits have increased in size since the last time I saw here) and the girl who looks like Rihana. I chilled for a while, had a sauna and hung out in the bar when I saw my #1 Artemis girl Avril. After a chat...[/QUOTE]
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First time in Berlin
Planning my first trip to Berlin and my first trip to an FKK.
Obviously I have a few questions about etiquette and procedures, as well as to what areas I should look for a hotel in and such. I was hoping someone could either direct me to a thread where the info is already available, or just run it down for me.
Ciao!
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Artemis this weekend, are these ladies around?
Hi,
I'm planning to go this weekend, so I'm curious which ones of my favorites or "to do's are there. ? Who knows if these VIPs are present?
Ina. The one and only.
Cindy. Very fit, sexy dark hair and funny Polish / German girl (I think not present so often).
Bella, Belle. Blonde Pam Anderson lookalike.
Iman. Dark and sexy.
Melek. Never tried her, seems to be getting good reviews.
Zoe, same.
And. Any other particularly hot or performing chick to not miss this weekend?
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[QUOTE=Chitown23;1690027]Planning my first trip to Berlin and my first trip to an FKK.
Obviously I have a few questions about etiquette and procedures, as well as to what areas I should look for a hotel in and such. I was hoping someone could either direct me to a thread where the info is already available, or just run it down for me.
Ciao![/QUOTE]I had my first visit to Artemis August 2014. I spent some hours reading this thread, all you ask for and much more are here, you only have to use a little time. I found much pleasure in reading, and a lot of fun too! I also was concerned about hotels, and ended up using the closest that were to find on a much used website for hotels.
This is so easy, just sit down reading and good luck!
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Hi,
I always stay at Romantik Hotel Kronprinz Berlin. It is very close to Artemis. And you can walk there in less than 5 minutes. The address for Romantik Hotel Kronprinz is Kronprinzendamm 1, Berlin 10711.
I usually uses [URL]www.hotels.com[/URL] to book the hotel. Or the hotel website: [URL]http://www.kronprinz-hotel.de[/URL].
Good luck at Artemis. I will go there Sunday, Monday and Tuesday next week. Hope to have a lot of fun.
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Names elude me
I had a terrific time at A Thursday. All thanks to one particular girl whose name of course eludes me.
Wonderfully petite, exceptionally trim figure and large natural breasts. African complexion. With slightly blonde hair. Sunny, and friendly disposition.
She is from Hamburg. Tattoo of an angel covering her upper arm.
I had a terrific time with her and found her to be a very pleasant girl in addition to providing excellent service!
She has the tightest pussy I have ever experienced. And I have been with many petite women in my day.
I wish I could remember her name. Anyone?
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Hotel close to Artemis
Motel avus is very close by Artemis, the address is Halenseestrasse 51, on the opposite site of the street to Artemis, so you have to cross on one of the foot-bridges. It's cheaper than Romantik Hotel Kronprinz Berlin. - I've used it once and the rooms are rather simple. So if you want a luxurious room, this is not it. But its OK, no problems. And the staff is very nice and helpful, and I thought the food was as good as what I hat at Romantik, so. Good enough for sure if you are in Artemis all the time anyway.
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Just arrived at Artemis. Info on Keeshaalf German, half Brazil?
Just arrived at Artemis I ah e the whole day and tomorrow too, its now 11:45 (this will maybe be published later by the moderator) I have met the beautiful Keesha or Kesha or something - 25 yrs, half Brazilian, half German, she says her BJ is good but she's a reluctant kisser. She's pretty hot to look at. Anyone has an experience with her? Should I?
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Re Name eludes me
[QUOTE=Warchild1972;1690580]I had a terrific time at A Thursday. All thanks to one particular girl whose name of course eludes me.
Wonderfully petite, exceptionally trim figure and large natural breasts. African complexion. With slightly blonde hair. Sunny, and friendly disposition.
She is from Hamburg. Tattoo of an angel covering her upper arm.
I had a terrific time with her and found her to be a very pleasant girl in addition to providing excellent service!
She has the tightest pussy I have ever experienced. And I have been with many petite women in my day.
I wish I could remember her name. Anyone?[/QUOTE]Maybe it's Iman. I'm in Artemis today and tomorrow amd possibly even Sunday. If I meet Iman. Let me jut be blunt. I'm fucking her Had an amazing time with her She has some blond hair, African complexion. She has a pierced nipple too as far as I remember. With something, a piece of jewellery, dangling from the tit Great blow, just loves sex, she's hot. Can't remember whether she has the tattoo you mention, though, so not 100% sure its her. If I see her I will look for the tattoo (while she's blowing me, preferably).
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[QUOTE=PeterB;1690691]Maybe it's Iman. I'm in Artemis today and tomorrow amd possibly even Sunday. If I meet Iman. Let me jut be blunt. I'm fucking her Had an amazing time with her She has some blond hair, African complexion. She has a pierced nipple too as far as I remember. With something, a piece of jewellery, dangling from the tit Great blow, just loves sex, she's hot. Can't remember whether she has the tattoo you mention, though, so not 100% sure its her. If I see her I will look for the tattoo (while she's blowing me, preferably).[/QUOTE]No, the wonderful woman I am referring to did not have any piercings.
So, Iman is a negative. How many ebony beauties of 157 cm (without heels) with a killer body (10/10) and a pussy to die for can there be?
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Though I am not sure about the specific tattoo motive (I know her arms are tattooed), but everything about your description fits Vanity from Hamburg, a young coloured woman, petite and large natural boobs. The other name who was mentioned by Peter be is not correct. Iman is another woman. Dark skinned too, but silicone boobs and a completely different body type, athletic and more something of an athletic MILF amazonian woman. Vanity, on the other hand, is still quite young.
[QUOTE=Warchild1972;1690580]I had a terrific time at A Thursday. All thanks to one particular girl whose name of course eludes me.
Wonderfully petite, exceptionally trim figure and large natural breasts. African complexion. With slightly blonde hair. Sunny, and friendly disposition.
She is from Hamburg. Tattoo of an angel covering her upper arm.
I had a terrific time with her and found her to be a very pleasant girl in addition to providing excellent service!
She has the tightest pussy I have ever experienced. And I have been with many petite women in my day.
I wish I could remember her name. Anyone?[/QUOTE]
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Artemis FAQ
Some recent chatter about how Ye Olde Fick Fabrik works, and Kimino's earlier note about Sticky Posts (partly inspired by the situations he gets himself into.) has led me, in my twilight hours of postings, to offer 2 suggestions:
1. Excerpted with slight tweaks from Charlie123's great summary last year of all things Berlin (see the Berlin thread http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1637702&viewfull=1#post1637702), here is his take on Artemis:
FKK is a Germanic naturist movement, whose most concrete representation in modern Germany is to be found in the proliferation of FKK clubs across almost every big conurbation in the country (see [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikoerperkultur[/URL] for more info on the origins of this movement).
FKK clubs essentially large brothels, almost always with some spa or health club facilities attached to them, and usually with swimming pools, massage (EUR 30 for 30 min, 50 for an hour, Hammam also an option) and saunas too. In brothels however, you are usually led to a private room to select a companion and contact with other punters is expressly avoided. FKK clubs are totally different, there are extensive public areas. The girls and the male guests routinely hang around in the lounge or spa areas in mixed company and the changing areas and showers are also designated public areas.
Typically you would pay an entrance fee (80 E at Artemis) entitling you to free use of the club and free soft drinks and food all day. Sex costs extra (Eur 60 for 30 minutes, CIM 50 more, anal 100 more) and is payable to the girls. BBBJ and kissing should be standard and includedYou put your valuables in a small private safe, undress, shower and put on a dressing gown. The bar will be full of scantily-clad girls and a number of other men similarly attired. Chat to a few girls, pick one you like and go with her to the room for as long as you like or can afford. 'Basic Service' includes uncovered BJ and protected sex. Kissing and reverse oral are examples of non-cost items that the girl may or may not like to indulge in. Anal sex, CIM (cum in mouth) and CIF (cum in face) are examples of additional services that may be available, and if they are then a price supplement would apply. Each 30 minutes (or any part thereof) costs 60 E, and additional services attract an additional cost. All money is paid to the girl after the session ends, in cash. There is a "12 for 10" discount card available.
The FKK model offers many advantages. The chance to mingle with the girls before making your selection is a huge benefit. But FKK doesn't suit everybody; many people are concerned about the public interaction. It's not the purpose of this report to weigh those arguments here the Artemis thread on this website covers these questions in extraordinary depth and should prove very informative for anybody who is interested in learning more about the attractions and challenges of the FKK scene.
I would only add: there are 2 hotels close by, the Ibis to the north, the Kronprinz to the south. The Ring S-Bahns, and the S-Bahns going West through the city all stop at Westkreuz Station, a 5 minutes walk. Express Buses running down Ku'dam are another option, hoping out at Halensee and walking 10 minutes. The transport system is so good that really you can stay anywhere certainly in West Berlin and be within 15-20 minutes of Artemis. Sunday-Tues nights are relaxed but slow and have less girls. Dessous night (Wed) is the one night girls are not essentially naked. The Power Nights - Thurs. through Sat. have more options, generally better food, but more Mongers, especially after 2300. The early worm catches the bird.You can leave and return on the same day entrance fee as discussed earlier.
And by far the most important tip is take it slow, don't be overwhelmed by the initial rush and pushy seductive offers. Talk to candidates, feel out the vibe, take it slow, don't be afraid to say no, and if any sexual preferences are deal breakers, discuss them clearly and agree on what and how much before heading off to a zimmer. 3 somes tend to be bogus but if you must, let the girl choose her partner so you have a chance of some chemistry.
2. Write Admin about an FAQ section. I did this today. Ideally it would be nested under any FKK club thread, as another layer / tree. But there may be other solutions. I fully acknowledge the need for such a page and it would be helpful to newbies and keep this forum livelier. Don't post ideas here. Write Admin directly and let them sort this once and for all. At the bottom of each page is a Contact us link.
In the meantime, we can now refer to this entry for FAQs.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1690800]Some recent chatter about how Ye Olde Fick Fabrik works...
Each 30 minutes (or any part thereof) costs 60 E, and additional services attract an additional cost. All money is paid to the girl after the session ends, in cash. There is a "12 for 10" discount card available.
...[/QUOTE]A good summary of the workings of Poondorf in Halensee, it could definitely deserve a "sticky"-status. One detail though: the 12-for-10 discount card is for entrance to the club, not for entering the girls. . .
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Threesome
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1690800].... 3 somes tend to be bogus but if you must, let the girl choose her partner so you have a chance of some chemistry.[/QUOTE]Yes, absolutely.
IMHO, the 3-some even tend to encourage bad service and worse behavior. It sometimes feels like the most "dominant" of the girls will watch over the other not to indulge in pleasure or be too forthcoming. With another girl in the room, the behavior can best be described as overly controlled if not downright hostile at times. During the interview they will typically give promises of lesbian shows and all kinds of good things. My experience is that the more graphic and promising the talk, the worse it will actually be once you get into the room with them. And forget about the lesbian thing, the seem to forget those promises the second you head for the room. They will still charge you for it though.
On numerous occasions I have been overly tempted and gone for this, when a couple of sharks have hunted me down in pairs. And in nearly every case I have had the feeling the experience would have been better had I been alone with either one of the girls.
So why do it? Well, that's the thing. On two specific occasions, it worked beautifully and have been some of my best experiences ever. One time I was with two sweet German girls. Both giving a 100% GFE experience, no lesbian interaction, but almost battling for my attention. "Please, now its my turn to be fucked". Amazing. I spent 3-4 hours with them. The other experience was with a long-legged Italian girl and a beautiful blond from Russia. In this rare case they did get into the lesbian action. And it certainly did not look like a show, but real action. I started out just sitting in a chair watching them on the bed. After some time the Italian girl turned her head and asked if I wanted to join them. She was on her knees doing DATY on the Russian babe, with her ass wiggling in the air. I strolled over, picked up a condom from the bedside, and went round and fucked her doggy while she continued her work on the blond. Amazing experience as well and lasted hours with everybody doing everybody.
Incidentally, both sessions were at FKK Villa in Hanover.
So I guess I am still trying to relive those, but frankly it is not an everyday thing.
Perhaps one just need to ignore the jibe about lesbian show, and try to find out during the interview whether the girl is actually into other girls. If yes, it might be winner. And for sure let her pick the other like RocketBoy0 suggests.
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Questions
I went several days ago, and may go again.
Questions:
1) Is there no viagra or cialis-type of pill sold at Artemis? Their business could double, as a lot of men who can only do 2-3 might do 4-6. But I also heard that such 'enhancers' are illegal in Germany.
Is there a solution? What if you want to do more than just the first two, but can't manage to get hard for enough time beyond that (the smoke in the main room certainly does not help)? I have seen older comments on this thread of some men purchasing such pills, but it was unclear if this was from the club itself.
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Hard Again
[QUOTE=FromAmerica;1691242]:1) Is there no viagra or cialis-type of pill sold at Artemis? [/QUOTE]One of the finest blues albums, ever: Muddy Waters, Johnny Winter, James Cotton (1977).
ED pills are not sold in Artemis because they are controlled substances and, believe it or not, the A is a bordello, not a pharmacy. If you need to pump it up, get a doctor's prescription (doctors in Berlin are not so expensive), and stock up at an Apotek. In passing, all presriptions filled in France are 23% less as les Francais don't charge VAT on meds. Not sure about other countries but it likely varies. Alternatively, you can use the interweb to buy various voodoo alternatives of differing degrees of effectiveness and risk.
Just in passing, not sure such pills will necessarily work after 2+ times, especially if you orgasm, and you want to again. You might (might) get an erection but might not pop. Other things involved and not clear after various enhancements you will become The Sperminator.
Maybe best is just relax, forget about pressure to cum 10 times and spread the entrance cost over x many girls, etc. Just enjoy things as they cum. It can also be a Quality vs. Quantity thing. Sex need not be like going to Cosco, to Americanize it.
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3-way
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1691029]And for sure let her pick the other like RocketBoy0 suggests.[/QUOTE]Something that has worked for me a couple of times is that if things have gone well with a girl during a session, I have asked her to get a friend to join us. The ice is already broken, one girl has already been delivering good service, and it is obvious to focus your attentions on the second girl when she turns up. Also happens to be financially sound as you don't burn 60 on a girl that you are not making good use of.
I agree that the lesbian show is very unlikely to be worthwhile.
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[QUOTE=FromAmerica;1691242] I have seen older comments on this thread of some men purchasing such pills, but it was unclear if this was from the club itself.[/QUOTE]In most clubs you can find girls who sell Vitamin V, and other things, as a sideline.
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I had my first visit to Artemis some years ago, a lot of beautiful girls.
Day one started 13 pm.
I was walking around in the bar just looking when a girl came up to me, I did some talking to her and we went to the room which was a great moment, to bad that I couldn't not remember her name.
She were from Slovakia, normal tall and nice body.
I would like to be with this girl once more.
After a rest downstairs I went to the cinema and right after a girl came and set down beside me, she started to feel my leg and and my balls a little and asked if we should go to the room, I could not say no and we went to the room with the cinema, she were from Germany with long red hair and slim body. In the room she behaved more like a a robot and were very quick.
Well, we will not meet anymore.
I thought about going home, but decided to stay a little more when I noticed a nice rather small girl with dark hair, brown eyes and nice butt, she went up to the room With a man and I decided to wait for her, but after an hour waiting I went tired and took a coffee in the bar.
Then I went to the cinema were great action took place, one couple were fucking and the other were doing 69.
Suddenly I saw the dark haired girl on the opposite side of the bar, but when I came up to her a man already were talking to her, too bad. After a minute they went to the room.
Then a girl contacted me, Daisy, I think she called herself, from Germany, I am very good she told me will you try me? She asked. We went to the room and it were a good ending of the day.
Day two.
I had great luck, I run into the small nice girl that I noticed the day before, she were very nice talking to as well, we went to room and she were just great in the room, we spent an hour together.
After a break I went with her once more. Stupid me, I forgot her name.
Too bad, but I had just two days in Berlin.
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Enquiry for Artemis
Hi friends, I am a regular visitor to FKK's in Frankfurt and talking to one of the girls she mentioned about Artemis and praised it highly.
She said even though a little expensive entry is Euro 80, session is Euro 60 and beer is to be paid for, quality of girls is very good, wide selection from various countries like South America, western Europe, Asia and so on, not just from Eastern European like in Frankfurt. Better rooms and all different from one another, hygiene level is high as they get tested for various diseases once in every 15 days.
Plus performance level and satisfaction level of customers is also high, if a customer complains of a session the girl gets reprimanded and is probably asked to leave.
Please share your views, what do you have to say. Is it worth it to make a visit.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=SuperLove;1692429]Hi friends, I am a regular visitor to FKK's in Frankfurt and talking to one of the girls she mentioned about Artemis and praised it highly.
Please share your views, what do you have to say. Is it worth it to make a visit.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I would not go only for Artemis to Berlin. Artemis is OK but from Frankfurt nothing different or better, in my feeling. Often, you can see again the same girls from before in Palace or Oase. One thing I do not like, the girls have tolld me, Artemis controls them very strongly, almost like prisoner.
If you are anyway in Berlin for work, Artemis in fine, of course. For this I was now many times there and had good time.
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Orange is the New Black in Westkreuz
[QUOTE=Slither;1692434]Often, you can see again the same girls from before in Palace or Oase. One thing I do not like, the girls have tolld me, Artemis controls them very strongly, almost like prisoner.
[/QUOTE]All this, like most things FKK is completely subjective. Berlin is so cheap, and getting here is also if you are a little clever, just check it out for yourself.
The "almost prisoner" comment is way over the top silly. While some rules exist in all clubs-like number of minimum hours, number of minimum days one has to work, all balance demand and planning for in-house beds, etc.
Having rules about what constitutes minimum levels of service is a very good thing IMHO. In general, everyone in Artemis is pretty friendly and tolerant. You can easily feel this vibe, in contrast to say The Globe in Zurich which is very tightly controlled. Girls for sure have been dismissed from A for crossing lines of customer, colleague mobbing, or drug abuse but that is to be expected. Artemis has its hard core team who have been there a long time and any can leave whenever they want. They don't.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1692587]All this, like most things FKK is completely subjective. Berlin is so cheap, and getting here is also if you are a little clever, just check it out for yourself.
[/QUOTE]Isn't FRA cheaper? Cheaper admission and sessions. Hotels about equal. Only con for FRA is that it will take longer time travelling to different clubs and more in transportation costs.
Want to make a trip by the end of this month but can't still decide since airplane tickets suggest Berlin, however I'm afraid staying 5 days at the same club will get boring, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1692597]Isn't FRA cheaper? Cheaper admission and sessions. Hotels about equal. Only con for FRA is that it will take longer time travelling to different clubs and more in transportation costs.
however I'm afraid staying 5 days at the same club will get boring, LOL.[/QUOTE]Berlin a much nicer city, lots of cheap hotels, super transport system. If you read the ISG Berlin thread, especially Charlie123s excellent summary mentioned earlier this week here in the Artemis FAQ post, you will have access to way over 2000 girls working in apartment bordellos or as indies. You can mix it up-no one says stay only at Artemis. If you get bored doing that, you have all the music clubs, funky cafes, pervy clubs, gangbangs, dance scene and art museums and and and and of Berlin. Then, If you get bored doing all that, you are likely dead.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1692612]Berlin a much nicer city, lots of cheap hotels, super transport system. If you read the ISG Berlin thread, especially Charlie123s excellent summary mentioned earlier this week here in the Artemis FAQ post, you will have access to way over 2000 girls working in apartment bordellos or as indies. You can mix it up-no one says stay only at Artemis. If you get bored doing that, you have all the music clubs, funky cafes, pervy clubs, gangbangs, dance scene and art museums and and and and of Berlin. Then, If you get bored doing all that, you are likely dead.[/QUOTE]Point taken, suppose I can mix it up a bit with museums, sight seeing, shopping etc even though my main goal is the girls: the.
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Best day for Artemis?
If I want to have a big selection och young girls when I visit Artemis is it best to visit a in the middle of the week or in the wekends?
Or the same?
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[QUOTE=Puttex;1694055]If I want to have a big selection och young girls when I visit Artemis is it best to visit a in the middle of the week or in the wekends?
Or the same?[/QUOTE]Weekend naturally have more selection of girls, go after 6 PM. Around 7 more comes.
But as for young girls, I feel Artemis is more for bit experienced FKK girls. You do get 19 or 20 years old here and there, but I do know that girls need minimum one year of FKK experience elsewhere before to work in Artemis.
However, this is my own experience of going to Artemis during summer "low season" like in July and August (went 3 times like that, each time 10 or 12 straight days), but I noticed more girls who are non regular line ups during summer time at Artemis, is it because some girls do it as bit of summer jobs? Or management get non regular girls who are on summer holiday from school to fill in regular girls who are on summer holiday? Maybe, maybe not, but I tend to see more of younger non regular line up during low season in summer, like 19 to 21 years old girls. I like girls too, so I tend to notice this thing.
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Newbie report.
First timer at a FKK club and general monger newbie here. Always wanted to visit a FKK club after reading about them years ago, and found myself in Berlin this week. Read through this thread as far as I could (I think 30 pages) and with a list of about 10 names etched in my brain I arrived at Artemis at 1 pm on a Thursday. Realized pretty much as soon as I arrived that the list of names was useless. Nobody is walking around with name tags on and it is tiring talking to every single girl and getting their name.
I started out making myself comfortable, swim, sauna, nap on a pool chair then upstairs to talk to some girls, a few grabbed my eye but there is always the hope of something better turning up so I waited. And then something better did turn up. Avril who happened to be on my list so maybe not such a stupid idea after all.
For me she was the hottest girl there all day, fragile doll-like features, big eyes, slim, cute butt & her hair was exquisite. She was very goofy and endearing whilst talking downstairs but I noticed a definite chill once we got to the room, started out with a good (almost great) blowjob and then moved on to some frigid sex, all throughout she is watching herself in the mirror & making porn faces at herself, as in I don't think she looked at me once which was actually a bit of a turn on that she enjoyed watching herself like that but also not such a turn on because eye contact is nice. So about 5 minutes into the sex we are going at it doggy and I look at my watch, just out of interest & just the once, I didn't think she would notice but like I said she was enjoying the view in the mirror however she did not enjoy the view of me looking at my watch because she shut it down right there, stood up and chewed me out for a good 8 minutes (guessing here, if I looked at the watch again she might have killed me) about what an asshole I am, how terrible she feels and where she plans on putting the watch (my ass). She continues to berate me about fucking her like a machine, as in too hard but I was barely even going that hard? Like maybe 70% and I'm not particularly well endowed so I feel she just wanted to yell at someone and I was the poor sucker who happened to tip her over the edge. I admit it was poor form looking at the watch, that was rude of me. Anyway I let out a long "okay" and made to leave but she stops me and says "no back to blowjob" so we go back to blowjob with me looking at the ceiling thinking where "mistreating a hooker" fits in on my list of life regrets so not the sexiest of situations, blowjob obviously wasn't going anywhere so she finished with an absolute brutal handjob, I was impressed by her speed and grip, no doubt she was a chronic masturbater in a past life. She actually warmed up a bit towards the end and we goofed around a bit play wrestling but maybe that's because I looked like I was ready to jump in front of a train. On the way out in the light of the main stairway I notice she has a huge cold-sore her lipstick had covered up. FFS! All in all a miserable experience.
After a vigorous shower (some steel wool might have been nice) I go back and have another swim, sauna and a huge nap in the downstairs lounge and think about if another session is just throwing good money after bad. I head back upstairs and talked to a few girls but really wasn't feeling it so back downstairs for more relaxing. Anyway about 9 pm I make my final effort, I walk around the lounge, sit in a few different places, talk to a few girls but it wasn't happening again, I head back downstairs to see if my luck changes in the downstairs lounge and run into Janine (I think) she is 26 and from "south Germany", black hair, tiny boobs, slim, not particularly German-looking, said she had just had nose surgery, I assume cosmetic.
Not as cute as Avril but I think one of the better looking girls there, and she was by far the friendliest I talked to. I searched back through the thread and found some very poor reports which makes me wonder if she is a new Janine, she has changed her ways or I got the name wrong because for me she was fantastic, friendly chat before hand & very personable in general, no up-selling, blowjob wasn't great to be honest, a notch below Avril but she was enthusiastic and it was still pretty good, she allowed (very limited) kissing but was happy to kiss me all over my body, and then she fucked me like a demon. I gave her the full 100% pounding from behind which made me a bit nervous after what happened earlier but of course there was no problem. She was very vocal, enthusiastic and really put in a big effort in general. I thoroughly enjoyed it, one of the better experiences I have had paying for sex (only the 6th time so that doesn't say much). I had planned on a third but in the end decided to end on a good note and left at about 10.
Personally I can't recommend a place like this as a once-off visit, it was quite possible I could have gone 0 for three and been 260 euro poorer for it. I understand how it is so popular though, if I had Artemis in my city I would be a regular. Once I was comfortable, knew the lay of the land, who to avoid I think I would very much enjoy going there once a month or so. Still glad I went though, even if it was just to cross something off a list.
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Hi Transited,
I understand why looking at your watch during the first few minutes can irritate the girl. They always notice these things and ofc sometimes we all have an awkward moment even with girls we already know. However that should be it and as a professional she should have continued and not act the way you described.
[QUOTE=Transited;1694225]Janine (I think) she is 26 and from "south Germany", black hair, tiny boobs, slim, not particularly German-looking, said she had just had nose surgery, I assume cosmetic.
Not as cute as Avril but I think one of the better looking girls there, and she was by far the friendliest I talked to. I searched back through the thread and found some very poor reports which makes me wonder if she is a new Janine, she has changed her ways or I got the name wrong because for me she was fantastic, friendly chat before hand & very personable in general, no up-selling, blowjob wasn't great to be honest, a notch below Avril but she was enthusiastic and it was still pretty good, she allowed (very limited) kissing but was happy to kiss me all over my body, and then she fucked me like a demon. I gave her the full 100% pounding from behind which made me a bit nervous after what happened earlier but of course there was no problem. She was very vocal, enthusiastic and really put in a big effort in general. I thoroughly enjoyed it, one of the better experiences I have had paying for sex (only the 6th time so that doesn't say much). I had planned on a third but in the end decided to end on a good note and left at about 10.[/QUOTE]If the name is correct it has to be a new girl. The Janine I know has been at Artemis for a few years. She is memorable because she is very tall, approximately 5'11" without shoes, she has silicone boobs and she is from East Germany not South Germany. So as far as I see it either she is a new girl or you misunderstood the name.
The Janine I know I have most recently seen her in January and maybe still in February this year too.
BTW thanks for your report.
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=Transited;1694225]
o the sex we are going at it doggy and I look at my watch, just out of interest & just the once, I didn't think she would notice but like I said she was enjoying the view in the mirror however she did not enjoy the view of me looking at my watch because she shut it down right there, stood up and chewed me out for a good 8 minutes (guessing here, if I looked at the watch again she might have killed me) about what an asshole I am, how terrible she feels and where she plans on putting the watch (my ass). She continues to berate me about fucking her like a machine, as in too hard but I was barely even going that hard? Like maybe 70% and I'm not particularly well endowed so I feel she just wanted to yell at someone and I was the poor sucker who happened to tip her over the edge. I admit it was poor form looking at the watch, that was rude of me. oy going there once a month or so. Still glad I went [/QUOTE]That sucks! Aren't guys allowed to look at the watch so girls can cheat on time, let it run over 30 min etc?
Does the girls let you know that the time is almost over?
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1694397]That sucks! Aren't guys allowed to look at the watch so girls can cheat on time, let it run over 30 min etc?
Does the girls let you know that the time is almost over?[/QUOTE]The almost legendary Nina (CZ) caught me looking at the watch once. I understand why she got a little upset, but my intention was only to last as close as possible to my 30 minutes. When I pop I am finished, and this session with her was so fantastic I wanted the money to last as long as possible. But I am a newbie at FKK's, so I now have learned my lesson and will never do it again. I have never been told my 30 minutes are close to an end, I would like if they told, though.
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The Night (or Day) Watchmen
On this cock clock business, come on guys, it is not that difficult. You are being foolish if you don't look at a watch when you enter a room, especially with a girl you don't know. Then a little check on the old Zeit in the middle of the main event is easily done while stroking her hair or face, or while DATY, or touching a range of body parts. Plenty of solutions.
Obviously you should be polite and discrete to preserve the illusion but let us remember this is still pay for play and it is surely useful to pace yourself and keep an eye on the peter meter. You can of course ask her in the middle of things but this IMHO breaks the mood even more. But unless you have unlimited cash, it only makes common sense to keep an eye on things and it surely reduces the chances for all sorts of awkward scenes later.
Just in passing, the girl who started all this broohaa is pretty famous for being both flaky and quite moody-it would not be an issue with most others.
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The solution is to wear a sportswatch where you can set the time elapse then it will vibrate. Too bad my running watch is too chunky otherwise it might be perfect for this difficult task.
Should check out if theres some wristband for sport that will do the job.
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[QUOTE=Transited;1694225]So about 5 minutes into the sex we are going at it doggy and I look at my watch, just out of interest & just the once, I didn't think she would notice but like I said she was enjoying the view in the mirror however she did not enjoy the view of me looking at my watch because she shut it down right there, stood up and chewed me out for a good 8 minutes (guessing here, if I looked at the watch again she might have killed me) [/QUOTE]Great first report. A good read as well as providing the detail. I've been at A a number of times and IMHO it is less friendly than the Frankfurt clubs. So maybe check out Oase or my favourite. Sharks. Both have better line ups generally than Artemis. But Berlin is a much better city to be in than Frankfurt. Odd that Berlin has only one FKK (despite lots on here about a possible second in Potsdam) whereas FRA has 5 to select from. So before you completely give up on FKKs I'd try Sharks or Oase on a summer's day, get out in the field at Oase or by the pool at Sharks and party a bit. I had a fantastic game of Bears v Babes (naked) at Oase last year. 9 girls played 5 guys at five a side (so called! If the girls won we had to take the 9 girls for 30 minutes on rota. If the guys won we got 10 minutes free blow jobs whilst sunbathing around the pool. We didn't know whether to win or lose! We won in the event and of course so did the girls as the blow jobs quickly led to time in the rooms.
I recount the story only to demonstrate that these places can be more than good fun as well as having a bevy of lovelies all naked. I've mongered for years and trust me. These are the best places bar none to do it. The girls are clean, tested and the facilities are better than in US, Spain, Thailand. Guys plan trips a year ahead to get to Germany / FKK. It is very sad they are not repeated around the globe!
As for the watch. RB's advice is sensible though I tend to deal with it even on the way to the room before she starts work (which what might have prompted the upset. I. e. "is this the best you can do. Get on with it. What's the time? I know you didn't intend or think that. But it's possible she misinterpreted it as such. I tend to say as we are entering the room "great. So I've got you until half past / quarter past /20 to etc now. Terrific! It's hard to get upset about a compliment. Whilst simultaneously making a point.
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Birthday conession
Hi guys,
Does anybody know if Artemis allows complimentary (free) entrance on a birthday?
I know some clubs do such as Samaya in Cologne.
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Talent?
Going to visit A during this week, is there any new talent worth looking for?
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1694720]On this cock clock business, come on guys, it is not that difficult. You are being foolish if you don't look at a watch when you enter a room, especially with a girl you don't know. Then a little check on the old Zeit in the middle of the main event is easily done while stroking her hair or face, or while DATY, or touching a range of body parts. Plenty of solutions.[/QUOTE]I thought that God invented the exalted postion Reverse Cowgirl just as a solution to this situation, no? I'll have to re-read my book of Genisis, just to make sure.
BTW: If a girl give's you shit about this, just say: Oh, I was just checking to see if I should extend the session another hour or two, but since you are obviously in a bad mood about this, well, let's finish up and I'll find another girl for extended Zimmer-time!
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Avril going berzerko over checking watch
Good first review transited. I'm not surprised that Avril reacted like that. When I sessioned with her for 1/2 hour, she gave me a little speech about 1 hour being better, that she's not a machine for a 1/2 hour fuck and that real gentlemen book 1 hour. Realizing what her game plan was (and laughing on the inside for her attempt at "shaming" me into 1 hour) I told her let's see how good we get along for 1/2 hour then I would consider extending. I finished before the 1/2 hour was up and did not extend.
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Meanings of abbreviations
There are some abbreviations that I do not understand and these are as following; CIM, CIF, BBBJ, DFK and DATY. Could someone please explain them to me?
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[QUOTE=Septimus1974;1695357]There are some abbreviations that I do not understand and these are as following; CIM, CIF, BBBJ, DFK and DATEY. Could someone please explain them to me?[/QUOTE]Go to Urban Dictionary and search all these slang words there:
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Watching the time
For what it's worth, my strategy towards watching the clock is simple: I don't. It's definitely a mood killer if the girl notices, and would be considered rude. I show complete respect at all times, and if the session was not good, I don't repeat. If during a session, I decide to not waste a shot, I end it gracefully, again with full respect. Under no circumstances do I confront a girl, or display anger or frustration. There is nothing to gain in doing so.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
Falco2
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Young guys
How girls and visitors treat young looking guys (19-20 years) there? Should I prepare to lots of jokes towards me or no one cares?
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[QUOTE=Skristel;1695084]Does anybody know if Artemis allows complimentary (free) entrance on a birthday?[/QUOTE]There's no complimentary admission on your birthday, unfortunately.
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There's No Place Like Home & Even Cowgirls Get the Blues
[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1695433]Go to Urban Dictionary and search all these slang words there:[/QUOTE]These are not slang words. They are abbreviations. No need to leave home. All are explained, unbelievable as it may seem, by gazing upwards at the top of every ISG forum page, just under the red Log Out button. There is a tab called "Abbreviations" which has more than you will ever wish or need to know.
Note in particular, the most important: RTFF.
@Ortos - I dunno if God had much to do with the reverse cowgirl position. Unless God is a she, as some have (wrongly IMHO) argued. Ouch-that damn lightning bolt...
But the problem of the not so furtive glance at one's watch could still remain if there is a mirror, and the mounter (vs the mountee, or for you Canadians, the mounted) spends time looking at her little narcissistic self, vs paying attention to the man who has paid for her attension.
Still, I think this whole tempest in a teapot time thing is related less to etiquette and more to one particular lass whom, as many have reported, often seems barking mad. The Jeremy Clarkson of Artemis?
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[QUOTE=Pheebo;1695495]How girls and visitors treat young looking guys (19-20 years) there? Should I prepare to lots of jokes towards me or no one cares?[/QUOTE]You will be treated like everyone else in the club. Age does not matter, it's the money that counts.
I was 20 when I first visited Artemis and I always had a good time there.
Do not forget to bring your passport or driver's license as they will probably ask it at the reception on your first visits to confirm your age.
Good luck and have fun.
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First time at Artemis
Although I am no stranger to FKK by a long way, I had my first visit to Artemis today.
I arrived at the club around 10.30 pm, and after the usual instructions about the lay of the land, I ventured into the club. The lineup looked pretty good already at the beginning. Thinking I knew everything, I probably did not pay attention, as I didn't understand how the alcohol system worked once I got to the bar. The girl standing next to me. A tall Bulgarian-Russian blonde called Maria. Was however so kind as to explain to me that I needed to buy chis at reception for getting alcohol. As I had already lit up a fag, I then had to order a Shirley Temple while scanning the scene. I had my mind on blondes this evening, and there was already quite a few that caught my attention. Quite a large number of women present for a Monday.
While savoring my coke, I was immediately targeted by numerous women, but rejected them all with the just got here and maybe later line.
Correcting my mistake and picking up some 10 euro chips from reception, I ventured back into the lounge and got myself a beer. More attacks by women, presumably sharks I thought. I pick them, they don't pick me was my rule of the day. As always when visiting a new place, I was frankly fidgeting like a noob, and these women can tell from a mile away. But even after being explained the finer points of a deep throat BJ, I still held my ground for some time. I had my mind set on doing some action in one of the cinemas, because I am a perv that gets turned on by that kind of public action.
So after a little while I am being attacked by a blond beauty with a very, very charming smile. She is Isabella. A short'ish Moldavian blond with C cup silly cones, and a firm round but not too tiny ass. She asks me if I want to go to the cinema downstairs with her. So blond and wants to do cinema action. Game on.
#1 Isabella, Moldovia.
Getting downstairs, she heads for a private room next to the cinema. That's was not the plan, so I tell her I want to go for one of the sofas in the cinema. She is OK with that so we sit at the back one. She after getting comfy, she starts explaining her very extensive menu and what are the cost, including CIM, Anal, prostate massage and what have we. This was the start of the session, so that was fine, and it did not feel to much of an upsell, just an explanation really. I then told her lets start with a blowjob and see where that leads, if we are good this may take some time. She starts rubbing the thing, and to no surprise it grows. Its like a party trick I do. Get a blond to rub my dick and it grows. But now she is asking me how come its so big. I am for sure somewhat above average, but not John Holmes I believe. Anyhow, she then commence a BBBJ first on her knees next to me, which I like, because then I can grab some tit and ass while she is doing her magic. But quickly she gets on the floor between my legs. The BJ is not really that great, but as its my first session I am pretty hard. She then starts talking about a 3 some with lesbian action with one of her friends, and then more and more upsell. She wants to do CIM, and she also wants to put a condom on her finger and give me prostate massage. At this point the BJ isn't really that convincing and I do not care for a finger in my butt either, condom or not. She is then obviously trying to rush to the finish line, but I tell her that I want to fuck her as well. She then starts complaining that my dick is too big for her, so she really is not that keen. I kinda insist, and then she says "okay, a little bit then". So after applying a condom in a rather insensitive and absolutely non-erotic way, she climbs on top and lower herself onto my dick. Well, the first 1. 5 inch of it that is. As far as being fucked goes, this is about as exciting as enjoying a Starbucks coffee by way of imagining the taste from a closed bean bag. Or licking the window from outside the street. All the while, she's got an expression on her face like she is fucking the bedpost. Or a hub cap. She complains again and wants to go back to BJ. I then told her I also wanted her to do a reverse cowgirl while I am in the sofa. Because I like that (in public being a perv and all). She reluctantly agrees, turns around and lower herself in reverse on the very, very far end of my dick. I then trust another 0.5 inch inside her, and she starts complaining again in Moldovian. I am no expert in that language, but I do believe the analogy was close to that of watermelons on mailorder through the letterbox. I then could not help myself, but asked her what the price was for anal again? For a full 30 seconds she was quite obviously torn between the prospect of a 100 euro premium versus a wrecked ass. But no. So back to BBBJ, and she starts upselling CIM again. I decline and she then continues, but moves on to a HJ. Which in all fairness felt a lot better than her BJ. Finally I pop and done. Will not repeat, ever.
After some time relaxing in the pool and sauna downstairs, I felt I was ready to do a second. I went up and started looking for the blond Bulgarian-Russian Maria again. Seeing her quickly cruise through the lounge and picking up a guy, that seemed to lead nowhere.
Two smiling and friendly girls then asked me to sit with them as "they had been waiting for me". One was a skinny blond, the other a dyed blond with a pretty voluptuous body. Their names elude me, but after introductions they told me they were both from Moldovia. I certainly had enough trips to Moldovia for one evening, so I quickly escaped!
#2 Roberta, RO.
Fighting off yet more shark attacks, I noticed a nice tall blond with natural C cups, a pretty face and a nice ass leaning back on a sofa behind the bar. She didn't seem to hunt after guys, nor trying overly to make eye contact with any. So after a cruise round the lounge, I went over and said Hi to her. Sitting down next to her, we quickly started chatting even if her English was only slightly better than my German. But she cuddled, was talkative and generally made a good impression. After a while. And with no hurrying. We went to a room upstairs. Now this was something completely different. 100% GFE. After some more cuddling in the room, I did DATY and to my surprise she really seemed to orgasm violently. Nice and not expected. She then gave me a fantastic BBBJ and we agreed on CIM. Not upselling, it was just the extra price for my info. After a long BBBJ we did various positions, doggy, reverse cowgirl etc. All the while, she was looking me in the eyes either directly or through the mirrors. I ended up spending 1.5 hours with her. Brilliant session, and would repeat.
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The Young Ones
[QUOTE=Pheebo;1695495]How girls and visitors treat young looking guys (19-20 years) there? Should I prepare to lots of jokes towards me or no one cares?[/QUOTE]No one cares. The girls will find it cute. Some may try to hustle / upsell you a little so just say if asked, "no it is not my first time-or I have been to other FKKs, or I had camels while serving in Afghanistan". Well maybe not the last one.
Just read up on the Artemis FAQ (search here) about how it all works, and for sure take it slow. For the rest of us, it is just a day at the office, but sometimes, newbs are overwhelmed by the scene upon first contact and it is really important to make sure there is a good vibe when you make a choice.
Spend an hour just watching, chat a little, see how all works. If you have questions about something, or even some girl, ask a fellow monger. Everyone will be friendly and eager to help. Good luck and report back here how it all goes down.
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1695633]As far as being fucked goes, this is about as exciting as enjoying a Starbucks coffee by way of imagining the taste from a closed bean bag.[/QUOTE]Nice report Carpaccio18. Had me laughing.
Cheers,
Falco2
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Couple from Moldavia
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1695633]
Two smiling and friendly girls then asked me to sit with them as "they had been waiting for me". One was a skinny blond, the other a dyed blond with a pretty voluptuous body. Their names elude me, but after introductions they told me they were both from Moldovia. I certainly had enough trips to Moldovia for one evening, so I quickly escaped!
[/QUOTE]I have met this couple last week too. The name of the slim one is Dinea. I did not get the name of the bigger lady. I went with Dinea only and would not repeat. She tried to upsell in the room. After realizing that I was not interested in her options, we had sex for 10 minutes only. I asked to slow down but she did not care. Otherwise, I would rate her body with a 9 (less for the face).
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I'm going to Artemis on Sunday and staying for 4 days / nights. Please pm me if you are there too, so we can have a chat and drink.
I've been there some 20+ times and know some of the girls. That goes for these moldavians (all being romanians) too. Thanks for the laugh though.
But can you really blame them? The clue is to get to know the girls first. That goes for half the FKK girls in every club. Once you know them, they improve alot.
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Mandy
Any sign of Austrian girl Mandy?
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1696508]Any sign of Austrian girl Mandy?[/QUOTE]Expected back just before the Easter holidays.
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Abbreviations
[QUOTE=Septimus1974;1695357]There are some abbreviations that I do not understand and these are as following; CIM, CIF, BBBJ, DFK and DATY. Could someone please explain them to me?
[b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]There is a link labeled "[u]Abbreviations[/u]" in the menu bar at the top of this page. This will take you to the Forum's Glossary where you will find a chart with most of the Terms & Abbreviations used in the Forum. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Yes, check the abbreviations list. Strangely CIM is missing, which means CumInMouth. CIF would be CumInFace, usually advertised as COF = CumOnFace. BareBackBlowJob, DeepFrenchKissing and DiningAtTheY are explained in the abbreviations list, along with lots of other German and English abbreviations.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1696460]I'm going to Artemis on Sunday and staying for 4 days / nights. Please pm me if you are there too, so we can have a chat and drink.
I've been there some 20+ times and know some of the girls. That goes for these moldavians (all being romanians) too. Thanks for the laugh though.
But can you really blame them? The clue is to get to know the girls first. That goes for half the FKK girls in every club. Once you know them, they improve alot.[/QUOTE]Have a nice time and remember to report since I need all the advice I can get, LOL.
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Winterdays at Artemis
Arrived at 13 pm. First some male problem in the reception the first day: A man had been to the room With two ladies for lesbian show, but he were not able to pay the ladies for the show. The second male problem were a man who had come in the mouth og the lady and did not want to pay for the extra services. Strange behavior of the men and they should have gone somewhere else or stayed at home playing With themselves. The first lady I met were Nella, a Nice blonde from Germany. The second lady were Jennifer from Dominic Republic, I think she said. Jennifer did like it in Public so we went to the cinema. After some hours rest Sasha found me in the cinema, she were a small cute lady With dark-brown hair. After all this I went back home. The next day I went back and I were looking for Sasha, but I were not able to find her, I asked in the reception, but they told me she were gone. Does anyone know something about Sasha?
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First time Artemis visit by frequent NRW and occasional Hesse clubs visitor
As the title says, it was my first visit to Berlin and Artemis. I would like to focus on comparison with NRW and Hesse clubs.
1. Accessibility the easiest, next to S-bahn.
2. Price the highest. Value for money the worst.
3. Lineup was mixed. Average look the best. Attitude below Hesse level (Sharks, Oase), much worse then in average NRW club. Percentage of hardcore pushy tattoo girls the highest. Reason lack of competition in the area (IMHO).
4. Number of girls the largest (120+) on Tuesday. Highest percentage of silicon boobs ever seen in any club.
5. Most girls promised free BBBJ and CIM (50). DFK availability the worst. Some girls refuse upfront, another girl (pretty petite blonde Alisa from Bulgaria) promised DFK upfront but later in the room refused. I left after five min in the room without pay, no objection. The best tactics is to try DFK in kino room and see what happens. Because of large number of girls, low chance to meet a right girl, and constant pressure from pushy girls. Selection takes a lot of effort not leaving time to relax.
6. Had very good session with Darlen from Romania. Average look, natural C-cup, good English, she cummed during DATY, deep DFK, strong BBBJ, professional CIM, good massage, multiple positions providing convenient access, intelligent, no rush. Damage - 170 (1 hour + CIM).
7. Food the worst, cannot compare to any NRW club. Many girls bring food with them from outside.
8. Drinks most expensive (beer is 10).
9. Ambiance average, does not justify 80 entry fee. Pool is actually like big Jacuzzi. Not enough number of pool chairs (5 total). Tobacco smoke is all around.
10. Staff service indifferent, do not care, overwhelmed with number of visitors.
I liked Berlin as a city but will not return just to visit Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1696980]
I liked Berlin as a city but will not return just to visit Artemis.[/QUOTE]+1.
HB.
P.S.: need 10 characters.
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[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1696980]
I liked Berlin as a city but will not return just to visit Artemis.[/QUOTE]As a frequent Artemis visitor I agree on a lot of points, in particular looks and silicon boobs, prices and unbearable smoke in the main bar. But there are people who like silicon boobs and I was "oppressed" by girls at Oase instead in my first visit.
But the selection process is per se more difficult if you are new to a place, a regular knows more what to do, example DFK girls if one likes DFK.
It also depends on your travel costs and logistics. For me it is still much easier going to Berlin and, well, I know the place, but I agree that if you don't have these "advantages", better to stick to Frankfurt for example.
Buck.
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[QUOTE=Sanuk327;1696980]As the title says, it was my first visit to Berlin and Artemis. I would like to focus on comparison with NRW and Hesse clubs......
3. Lineup was mixed. Average look the best. Attitude below Hesse level (Sharks, Oase), much worse then in average NRW club. Percentage of hardcore pushy tattoo girls the highest. Reason lack of competition in the area (IMHO).
7. Food the worst, cannot compare to any NRW club. Many girls bring food with them from outside.
I liked Berlin as a city but will not return just to visit Artemis.[/QUOTE]I will give one thump up for the totally nude policy of FKK Artemis and the all-you-can-use bathrobes policy of FKK Artemis. These two policies are better than those of NRW FKK clubs and some Hessen FKK clubs. The dinner of FKK Artemis is one of the worst among all the FKK clubs but the quality of breakfast is OK. I like the cheese cakes of the breakfast. The girls services of FKK Artemis are below those of FKK Sharks, FKK World, FKK Oase and FKK clubs of NRW region due to lack of competition. A new FKK club will be opened in Potsdam very soon. This new FKK club might be a game changer for Berlin.
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Viola
Sorry for the OT, did anybody see Viola recently? I didn't see her last week and maybe even before that.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1697112]Sorry for the OT, did anybody see Viola recently? I didn't see her last week and maybe even before that.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Anything concerning Viola isn't OT, for sure. - She's expected back some day after the Easter holidays.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1697115]Anything concerning Viola isn't OT, for sure. - She's expected back some day after the Easter holidays.[/QUOTE]Thanks Pharisaer, I was sure you had the info.
Cheers.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1697098]I will give one thump up for the totally nude policy of FKK Artemis and the all-you-can-use bathrobes policy of FKK Artemis. These two policies are better than those of NRW FKK clubs and some Hessen FKK clubs. The dinner of FKK Artemis is one of the worst among all the FKK clubs but the quality of breakfast is OK. I like the cheese cakes of the breakfast. The girls services of FKK Artemis are below those of FKK Sharks, FKK World, FKK Oase and FKK clubs of NRW region due to lack of competition. A new FKK club will be opened in Potsdam very soon. This new FKK club might be a game changer for Berlin.[/QUOTE]Some days dinner is OK when they make pasta (at Artemis, I mean you cannot go that wrong with noodle based dishes and I also do not mind meat balls at Artemis. However, yes they should improve food a bit. I often leave Artemis just to eat dinner in town. I hope Artemis will have kebab stand and pizza stand. That will be ideal.
As for service, once you get to know girls, some of them give you intense service, I even went for 45 minutes and only got charged 30 min. They are there for money, but they are human too, so I met some nice girls in after I repeatedly went to room with them. Well Artemis being only FKK in Berlin, there are mostly sharks though.
There have been talk about this new FKK club in Potsdam opening. Called Grand Palais right? It supposed to open last year in November. But as far as I know, no news. Do you know when it actually open? I am looking forward to it because it will give competition to Artemis and also for new club they need to attract clients to travel to Potsdam, so girls has to be good, so it has synergy affect to both FKK well I at least hope.
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Due to the location of that new Potsdam club, I don't have much faith in it unless it is vastly superior to Artemis in some regards like food, atmosphere and even price.
Don't forget that those are the criterias the girls goes for too (except for the price of service). So first they need to attract the girls, and then the customers will follow suit.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1697212]Due to the location of that new Potsdam club, I don't have much faith in it unless it is vastly superior to Artemis in some regards like food, atmosphere and even price.
Don't forget that those are the criterias the girls goes for too (except for the price of service). So first they need to attract the girls, and then the customers will follow suit.[/QUOTE]True that, it may become bit like Frankfurt-Oase vs palace.
But either way, I do hope that the new club in Potsdam will stimulate Artemis to provide even better looking girls, food, and also service to certain extent. I mean we do pay bit more for entry and also for the girl in Artemis than other FKK, and we do not see that much difference even for food and as far as the facility goes, there are better FKK for better price than Artemis, so let hope it will stimulate Artemis a bit.
Make new club in Potsdam for newbie younger FKK girls (teen age like 18 to 21 ish) and Artemis for minimum of one year FKK working experience club as Artemis apparently already is (according to girls).
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I visited FKK Artemis on Tue 17 & Wed 18 Mar, last time I was there was a year ago, I took it easy both nights and had just two girls each night, so four total:
Yvonne, German / Serbian mix, 28, blonde hair, tanned skin, some tatoos.
Gabrielle, Polish, 26, black hair, very white skin.
Nicole, Czech, 22, brown hair, tanned skin, very tall.
Gia, Moldovian, 25, blonde hair (dyed), tanned skin, lower back tatoo.
All sessions were 1/2 hour E60, I did the CIM option with Gia so E50 extra for that. I would definitely recommend either Yvonne or Gabrielle to anyone, both very good sessions, particularly Gabrielle who gave lots of DFK & GFE although I would say she would not do that with anyone, only if she likes you and you spend some time chatting with her for a while beforehand which I did.
Unfortunately I can't recommend Nicole, the session was ok, but midway through the session when I went to switch to doggie style she announced that she did not do this position as it hurt her, I find this disappointing for two reasons, one been that it is my favourite position, the other that she should say something like that up front before going to the room. Maybe it was near her time of the month or something, but still in my opinion she should not be working then.
As for Gia I am neutral, I wouldn't repeat myself but others may well have a great time with her. Once in the room she was a bit pushy for extras even though I told her I've been in Artemis over 20 times since '07 so I'm well aware of the prices. I ended up doing the CIM option only because towards the end I was struggling to finish, I reckon because of all the action I had at ERW on Mon 16.
Anyway that's my short report if it helps anyone. Cheers, Mac75.
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The Art during next week.
Thinking about hitting Art the week before Easter. Would it be considered a slow week?
Also, has anyone seen Turkish Shaz lately?
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I'm hitting Art next Wednesday and will stay in Berlin for 6 days. If any masters are attending please let me know as I need an experienced wingman in order to avoid getting devoured by sharks, LOL.
Feel pretty confident as I have made some research of which girls that are supposed to be safe bets, but I will go with the flow and fuck girls that I want to fuck.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1698750] but I will go with the flow and fuck girls that I want to fuck.[/QUOTE]Good idea. Remember Wednesday is lingerie day, unless you like it (as I do), pick a different day.
Kimino.
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[QUOTE=Kimino;1698789]Good idea. Remember Wednesday is lingerie day, unless you like it (as I do), pick a different day.
Kimino.[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting me know. I will go on Wednesday for sure as I don't mind lingerie and don't want to get overwhelm besides I will be a regular for a few days, LOL.
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Artemis today, took a session with a girl I take all the time, so I trust her. We go down and I ask how much and she replies 2 hours. I pay and check my phone, 1 hour and 20 minutes. Why do girls lie. I took this girl 7 or 8 times in the past. I didn't say anything not to ruin future sessions, but now I have to pay more careful attention. Rooky mistake, but in my defense I was drunk shit faced.
Watch it guys. Happens even to the experienced.
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Train or Taxi
What is the best way to get from city center to FKK Artemis and back? Do the trains run all night? Is it possible to get a cab back from there?
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1699520]Artemis today, took a session with a girl I take all the time, so I trust her. We go down and I ask how much and she replies 2 hours. I pay and check my phone, 1 hour and 20 minutes. Why do girls lie. I took this girl 7 or 8 times in the past. I didn't say anything not to ruin future sessions, but now I have to pay more careful attention. Rooky mistake, but in my defense I was drunk shit faced.
Watch it guys. Happens even to the experienced.[/QUOTE]So the lesson is that when you are drunk FKK girls will take advantage of you and vice versa (some guys), LOL.
Going to wear a easy read watch to check time.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1699520]Artemis today, took a session with a girl I take all the time, so I trust her. We go down and I ask how much and she replies 2 hours. I pay and check my phone, 1 hour and 20 minutes. Why do girls lie. I took this girl 7 or 8 times in the past. I didn't say anything not to ruin future sessions, but now I have to pay more careful attention. Rooky mistake, but in my defense I was drunk shit faced.
Watch it guys. Happens even to the experienced.[/QUOTE]This girl didn't respect you and stole you for 30 mn = 60€ at Artémis, maybe because you were drunk and she doesn't work enough, and you think to go again with her?
After her and the Oase girl, you should learn how to manage with girls.
Even in brothel, better for both to be respectful.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1699603]So the lesson is that when you are drunk FKK girls will take advantage of you and vice versa (some guys), LOL.
Going to wear a easy read watch to check time.[/QUOTE]Absolutely man. This is so annoying.
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[QUOTE=BrandonBrandon;1699574]What is the best way to get from city center to FKK Artemis and back? Do the trains run all night? Is it possible to get a cab back from there?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]No problem getting a taxi. There's always cabs in the car park waiting to pick up.
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[QUOTE=BrandonBrandon;1699574]What is the best way to get from city center to FKK Artemis and back?[/QUOTE]There's more than one way to skin a cat. IMHO the easiest way is taking the S-Bahn. It's just a short stroll from Westkreuz station (S5, S7, S75) or Halensee station (S41, S42, S46).
[QUOTE=BrandonBrandon;1699574]Do the trains run all night?[/QUOTE]No. During weekend nights (Fri / Sat, Sat / Sun) only. 24/7 bus service available at Halensee station bus stop.
[QUOTE=BrandonBrandon;1699574]Is it possible to get a cab back from there?[/QUOTE]Yes.
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Just a quick recap on my days at artemis recently:
Some of the girls I went with:
- South African girl from Jburgh I can't recall the name of. Blonde colored hair and black skin. First session and also one of my worst experiences ever. I'll rather do animal sex than going with this girl again. 0/10.
- Axenya (sp?) (Bul). This girl is incredible and as some have already mentionned here, her BJ's are incredible. She is also very sweet and knows how to touch a man with her magic hands. I went with her twice, and can only recommend her more. Also for those who misses Marketa in terms of looks and personality, Axenya is probably your type of girl, with even better skills in bed.
- Jade (name?) from Stuttgart with tons of tatoos. She was platina blonde last time I was at Artemis, but she is back to being natural brunette now. Doesn't kiss which is a bit negative, and her tits are new. Very nice and sweet girl. Very cute. Might be worth a repeat even though she doesn't kiss. P.S.: she likes it rough.
- Brianna (spain). I've been with her before. Very slim with a light weighted body. So very easy to be acrobatic with. Must say I prefer her with her current black hair as opposed to the ginger look she used to have before. She is a sweet anf fun girl that is very easy to be with. Recommended.
- Annelin (name? 22 year old romanian with a very light blonde hair. Great natural tits although she diesnt like to be licked on them. Also very sweet and happy girl. She seems to allways be in a good mood. Great body and good sex. I think she is fairly new as I haven't seen her before. Although I was told that she had been here awhile but had been on vacations.
Wanted to try out Dee (rom) as well, but no time. Anyone tried her?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1699618]This girl didn't respect you and stole you for 30 mn = 60 at Artmis, maybe because you were drunk and she doesn't work enough, and you think to go again with her?
After her and the Oase girl, you should learn how to manage with girls.
Even in brothel, better for both to be respectful.[/QUOTE]Well, she works all the time. Could be that she made an honest mistake as well. Also, I don't like conflict, so I am not reacting to these incidents. I don't know what you mean by "both should be respectful," but if you are implying I am not. Let me assure you that respecting the girl is paramount for me. And, yes, with this specific girl I may go again as I was with her maybe 6-8 times and she is great. I will just have to check the watch.
The Oase girl insisted to upsell, so I left the room. Shit happens man. Sometimes we have some bad luck.
I didn't have anything like this happen in months. Sometimes girls promise service outside the room and inside they don't deliver.
In any event, it does not get me upset or angry. I just stay away next time and I share my experience with the guys here in the forum, so they know from which girls to watch it.
But, I'll agree with you, managing the girls is important.
Cheers
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I will be visiting Artemis on Friday this week, 1st time, is Easter a problem? Is it a lot more crowded or maybe less?
Thanks
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Saw this in Metro UK. Sounds like Artemis. One of you guys need to volunteer.
[QUOTE]A Berlin brothel is advertising for prostitute testers – with the lucky candidate expected to rate sex workers for quality, cleanliness and safe sex.
The brothel, advertising on German sex website KaufMich.com (‘Buy me’), says, ‘Practical experience with many years of brothel visits necessary. You should enjoy having fun with people and you should not be afraid of contact.’
The brothel (which is advertising as ‘an international company with 120 workers’), says it is looking for a tester with a university degree (preferably business), experience of brothels and a health certificate showing they are disease-free.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Niklassthlm;1700584]I will be visiting Artemis on Friday this week, 1st time, is Easter a problem? Is it a lot more crowded or maybe less?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I better check the opening times if I were you.
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Nothing on their webpage. Gah, fuck it, I'm going anyway, hoping for the best.
[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1700730]I better check the opening times if I were you.[/QUOTE]
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I'm just going to go for it nothing on their webpage.
Any tips on who to look for?
[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1700730]I better check the opening times if I were you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Niklassthlm;1700936]I'm just going to go for it nothing on their webpage.
Any tips on who to look for?[/QUOTE]Their websites says that they are open, but I am not sure how many people will be there? If I were you, I hit the club anyway.
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[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1701035]Their websites says that they are open, but I am not sure how many people will be there? If I were you, I hit the club anyway.[/QUOTE]Call them - 030 890 444 10.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1700240]Well, she works all the time. Could be that she made an honest mistake as well. Also, I don't like conflict, so I am not reacting to these incidents. I don't know what you mean by "both should be respectful," but if you are implying I am not. Let me assure you that respecting the girl is paramount for me. And, yes, with this specific girl I may go again as I was with her maybe 6-8 times and she is great. I will just have to check the watch.
The Oase girl insisted to upsell, so I left the room. Shit happens man. Sometimes we have some bad luck.
I didn't have anything like this happen in months. Sometimes girls promise service outside the room and inside they don't deliver.
In any event, it does not get me upset or angry. I just stay away next time and I share my experience with the guys here in the forum, so they know from which girls to watch it.
But, I'll agree with you, managing the girls is important.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I always try to be respectful with girls and I expect for the same from girls, an Hungarian Oase girl wanted to speak with me about Paris, ski she enjoys, after sex, so we stayed 20 mn more in room to speak and she asked me for 50€ more, I never drink and I have a watch, so I knew we had less than 1 hour for sex, so I gave her only 100€ , she asked me for 150 , I refused, the week after she came to me smiling, I said her: don't you remember last time? She answered no problem for last week, but problem for me, I go with girls to have good relaxing time, not to fight at the end for money, my fav doesn't even look how much I give her, I never give her tip, only the club rate, but she trust me and she always said me "merci" , her honesty makes me become a very very regular with 2 or 3 rooms each week she works, so it's up to you for behaving with girls, but drinking don't help to be respected by girls.
Nevertheless, thanks for giving information about girls.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1701059]I always try to be respectful with girls and I expect for the same from girls, an Hungarian Oase girl wanted to speak with me about Paris, ski she enjoys, after sex, so we stayed 20 mn more in room to speak and she asked me for 50 more, I never drink and I have a watch, so I knew we had less than 1 hour for sex, so I gave her only 100 , she asked me for 150 , I refused, the week after she came to me smiling, I said her: don't you remember last time? She answered no problem for last week, but problem for me, I go with girls to have good relaxing time, not to fight at the end for money, my fav doesn't even look how much I give her, I never give her tip, only the club rate, but she trust me and she always said me "merci" , her honesty makes me become a very very regular with 2 or 3 rooms each week she works, so it's up to you for behaving with girls, but drinking don't help to be respected by girls.
Nevertheless, thanks for giving information about girls.[/QUOTE]Well, you can't generalize my friend. There are so many types of drunk guys; some get nasty and aggressive, some need a hug and affection, some get humorous and many more types. Don't forget that as long as you are good to the girl, it makes no difference. Our room experience was talking for a long time about her childhood and about why the club wasn't as full given there was a messe in Berlin. Our connection is such that I truly like her in the most genuine way possible.
In any event, I hardly never drink as well. I'm a sports enthusiastic. And, that's why I am a light weight when drinking. I get drunk quickly. But, don't be under the assumption that drunk is mean. I get more affectionate, humorous and in need of touching. I am not an aggressive drunk. Also, that specific girl and I got bottles and were drinking together before. Respect and stuff is not even a question. She lets me know what days she works, so I can come if I want.
If this was any girl, it would not surprise me that she misstated the time, but this one it is shocking, which is also the reason I can go with her again and believe she made an honest mistake. Maybe I am too naive, but I don't know man.
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Does Anybody Really....???
[QUOTE=Danny227;1701227]Also, that specific girl and I got bottles and were drinking together before. ... Maybe I am too naive, but I don't know man.[/QUOTE]So you were drinking AND she was drinking. And nobody was quite sure of the time! Gripping stuff.
For you music buffs out there, the refrain from an old Chicago song seems quite useful at this particular moment:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBuUUBrC9eQ[/URL]
or perhaps, just in the future, negotiate prices better, as in some tips from inspirational speaker Al Czervik:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgxzItaQzw[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1701361]So you were drinking AND she was drinking. And nobody was quite sure of the time! Gripping stuff.
For you music buffs out there, the refrain from an old Chicago song seems quite useful at this particular moment:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBuUUBrC9eQ[/URL]
or perhaps, just in the future, negotiate prices better, as in some tips from inspirational speaker Al Czervik:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dgxzItaQzw[/URL][/QUOTE]Dude,
I know. But, is was a hell of a session.
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On your marks, ready set and go
[QUOTE=Danny227;1701227]Well, you can't generalize my friend…. Also, that specific girl and I got bottles and were drinking together before.
If this was any girl, it would not surprise me that she misstated the time, but this one it is shocking, which is also the reason I can go with her again and believe she made an honest mistake. Maybe I am too naive, but I don't know man.[/QUOTE]Maybe her clock started when you ordered the bottle from the bar.
You may have a problem with alcohol at times. Lots of us do. Either way, you were not in a state to question at payment.
Years ago, I shorted a Brasilian girl named Kim by 60 euro. Very nice girl, I fell asleep upstairs during a head massage. I realized later and tried to find her. She had left for the day. I never saw her again. Like you, I need to forget that and move on.
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[QUOTE=Bearsk;1701731]Maybe her clock started when you ordered the bottle from the bar.
You may have a problem with alcohol at times. Lots of us do. Either way, you were not in a state to question at payment.
Years ago, I shorted a Brasilian girl named Kim by 60 euro. Very nice girl, I fell asleep upstairs during a head massage. I realized later and tried to find her. She had left for the day. I never saw her again. Like you, I need to forget that and move on.[/QUOTE]Right on dude, I don't hold a grudge against the girl. She is worth every cent and more.
Since that night I have been all week at Oase and Sharks. My memory follows recency effects and has no recollection of unfortunate incidents from he past.
By the way, I highly recommend the girl to anyone who goes to Artemis! Super cool and great service (Artemis scale, not World or Sharks scales).
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1701747]By the way, I highly recommend the girl to anyone who goes to Artemis! Super cool and great service (Artemis scale, not World or Sharks scales).[/QUOTE]Unless I missed it somewhere in the chain of posts, you never identified her?
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;1701764]Unless I missed it somewhere in the chain of posts, you never identified her?[/QUOTE]Correct, apologies, her name is Erika. I posted about her in the past here. She is with black hair and black eyes, silicon boobs and she should be around 21. I just want to add that while I talked about this incident, I took her 6-8 times in the past and there was never a billing issue, so I would highly recommend her, still.
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Lost in Translation
[QUOTE=Bearsk;1701731]Years ago, I shorted a Brasilian girl named Kim by 60 euro. Very nice girl, I fell asleep upstairs during a head massage. Like you, I need to forget that and move on.[/QUOTE]Could it be she misunderstood when you said you'd like some head?
But this falling asleep in the middle of a session - a hell of a good idea to save some bucks. I just don't think the rest of us have your charm to pull it off. I can imagine some of the Hamburg Team using a cattle prod to gently wake up an underpaying monger.
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At Danny.
I think Erika is more than 30.
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1st report and experience
Went there around 13 pm bought ticket, locked valuables in the safe, changed and took a shower. Walked around a bit to get to know the place and got told not to go to the 3rd floor so it was not easy to see that I'm was new to the place, LOL.
Went to eat some breakfast and walked around again. Sat in the kino downstairs and got approached by a lot of girls, tried to avoid eye contact if I knew I wasn't interested look wise. Got approached by Sheenya who was nice and we talked some time before I took to the kino-rom. Some LFK and fucked her in several positions but didn't manage to cum.
Concl: may repeat.
Needed some energy so went to the bar (pool) and saw a beautiful girl (sorry drinking tea and talking to bartender. Later she started walking and I tried to get her but she went upstairs. I went up to the lounge and she approached me talking me she's from Berlin etc told her that I needed to recharge my energy. Didn't see her for a couple of hours and grabbed her when I was her again. She does LFK but doesn't like her pussy licked saying it's very sensitive idk LOL. However her BJ is great, fucked her in diff. Position before she finish me with her hands.
Concl: likely to repeat.
3rd girl: Adina (Montenegro?) great body but no response when DATY, fucking wise ok.
Concl: will not repeat.
After a while girls stop approaching me since I always try to avoid eye contact and sitting in the relax area. Some girls even complain that I'm sitting there for hrs, but seriously I don't want to fuck girls I'm not attracted to whatsoever.
Some nice girls that I might try tmw:
Nicole (cz): very nice body, nice to talk to but doesn't kiss and uncertain DATY.
Christina: nice to talk and according to Danny very good.
Solida: seems very flirty I. E. Kissing but she never approached me. Might have taken her due to good report her.
Couldn't find any girls that provided GFE I. E. DFK but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough. Found one girl that I liked but no DFK so no deal.
Hopefully tmw will be better since I wasn't super impressed by Artemis and the food (dinner) is totally garbage, soup is good though. Maybe it's me but it seems that a lot of girls claim they are from Germany idk maybe they think that's a selling point.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1701953]
Some nice girls that I might try tmw:
Nicole (cz): very nice body, nice to talk to but doesn't kiss and uncertain DATY.
Christina: nice to talk and according to Danny very good.
Solida: seems very flirty I. E. Kissing but she never approached me. Might have taken her due to good report her.
Couldn't find any girls that provided GFE I. E. DFK but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough. Found one girl that I liked but no DFK so no deal.
Hopefully tmw will be better since I wasn't super impressed by Artemis and the food (dinner) is totally garbage, soup is good though. Maybe it's me but it seems that a lot of girls claim they are from Germany idk maybe they think that's a selling point.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. You sound a little underwhelmed with Artemis, so I hope that you have better luck today.
To help, can I suggest that you look for other options than Nicole. Of course, YMMV, but it is a long time since I have read a good report about her. I aborted my own session with her after a few minutes, so badly did she annoy me with her upselling in the room. I like her a lot outside of the room. We have a laugh about our first attempt at a session, and she doesn't give up.
It is true that GFE is hard to find in the club. It is one of the reasons that I am going to try the Stuttgart clubs this month. The closest that I have found in Artemis recently is Gabrielle (Gabriella?) from Poland. She is a nice girl, but not someone that you would immediately select on looks alone.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1701953]Went there around 13 pm bought ticket, locked valuables in the safe, changed and took a shower. Walked around a bit to get to know the place and got told not to go to the 3rd floor so it was not easy to see that I'm was new to the place, LOL.
Went to eat some breakfast and walked around again. Sat in the kino downstairs and got approached by a lot of girls, tried to avoid eye contact if I knew I wasn't interested look wise. Got approached by Sheenya who was nice and we talked some time before I took to the kino-rom. Some LFK and fucked her in several positions but didn't manage to cum.
Concl: may repeat.
Needed some energy so went to the bar (pool) and saw a beautiful girl (sorry drinking tea and talking to bartender. Later she started walking and I tried to get her but she went upstairs. I went up to the lounge and she approached me talking me she's from Berlin etc told her that I needed to recharge my energy. Didn't see her for a couple of hours and grabbed her when I was her again. She does LFK but doesn't like her pussy licked saying it's very sensitive idk LOL. However her BJ is great, fucked her in diff. Position before she finish me with her hands...[/QUOTE]Christina started kissing while into the session and when she knew I will stay at least an hour. Many girls are like this.
Artemis has, in my opinion, one of the best well maintained facilities. Food is usually good too, so I think you had a bad food day, which can happen anywhere.
Don't forget also that Artemis is the only decent FKK in Berlin and it caters to a lot of tourists. Therefore, a lot of girls behave accordingly (service, on average, is not like at Oase, Sharks, World, etc' So, it requires more talk to know which girl will do what and also. You can ask them if in a one hour session they would do DFK and stuff.
A year back I asked a Romanian tall girl (wear a collar from fabric on her neck usually and a pony tail with brown hair) that still works there if she kisses, and she replied loudly "no I don't kiss, this guy wants to kiss. " We ended up in the room for a 1.5 hour session with DFK and it was a great session.
I like Artemis a lot, but if one is not vigilant with respect to the girl he chooses, service might not be as expected.
Carla is also great, ro, face is OK, great great ass, awesome personality and one of my favorites.
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Gabrielle
[QUOTE=Frozty;1702036]It is true that GFE is hard to find in the club. It is one of the reasons that I am going to try the Stuttgart clubs this month. The closest that I have found in Artemis recently is Gabrielle (Gabriella?) from Poland. She is a nice girl, but not someone that you would immediately select on looks alone.[/QUOTE]Frozty,
I'll be visiting next month and Gabrielle is on my do list. Can you provide a description of her to help me recognize her? After researching this forum the only description I managed to find is '26, black hair, very white skin'.
Also, maybe it's just me but the Russian girls (Natasha, Katarina, Ella) tend to provide great GFE. I mean, they seem to me a rather affectionate bunch. P.S. I don't think Katarina works there anymore.
EF
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[QUOTE=EtrnalFeminine;1702141]Frozty,
I'll be visiting next month and Gabrielle is on my do list. Can you provide a description of her to help me recognize her? After researching this forum the only description I managed to find is '26, black hair, very white skin'.
Also, maybe it's just me but the Russian girls (Natasha, Katarina, Ella) tend to provide great GFE. I mean, they seem to me a rather affectionate bunch. P.S. I don't think Katarina works there anymore.
EF[/QUOTE]I'll try. Height is approx 167 cm. Her is black, long, wavy. See cup. No tattoo's, if I recall correctly. Very pale skin. Pretty, but more 'girl next door' than a stunner. She's quite shy, and tends to hang out on her own. She speaks with a slight lisp, but she'll probably have told you her name by the time you check that off the list!
I haven't seen Katerina for a long time, but I have known her to take long breaks before. I don't know Natasha or Ella, but will keep them in mind for my next visit.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1702213]I'll try. Height is approx 167 cm. Her is black, long, wavy. See cup. No tattoo's, if I recall correctly. Very pale skin. Pretty, but more 'girl next door' than a stunner. She's quite shy, and tends to hang out on her own. She speaks with a slight lisp, but she'll probably have told you her name by the time you check that off the list![/QUOTE]Good description. Maybe it will be helpful to know: always wearing a broad, dark ribbon or belt around her hips. The ribbon covers some tats as well.
[QUOTE=Frozty;1702213]I haven't seen Katerina for a long time, but I have known her to take long breaks before. I don't know Natasha or Ella, but will keep them in mind for my next visit.[/QUOTE]Don't mix it up. Theres a Bulgarian called Katharina, she's a regular nowadays. You're talking about Russian Katya, spotted for the last time in late summer last year.
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Day 2.
Went there around 5-6, went to the kino and got approached to girls. Def. Better today as you can see yr boobies I. E. Fake or natural. A girl named Timea couldn't take the rejection very well I. E. Got very aggressive after I told her "no bc you are not my type and I don't want to waste yr and my time". Body wise she is not bad but look like a plastic doll and if I wanted to fuck a plastic doll I can buy one cheaper and reuse, LOL.
Didn't see Christina as she is on my do-list. So I will try to caught her today.
1. Lorrine (Hun) black her, very pretty face, natural see. Kissing, good BJ, personality.
Conl: Repeat.
Went to the relax area sat in the sofa and relax for a while. Solida arrived no taker, I made eye contact she sat down, we talk and off to the room we go.
2. Solida (ro) nice teasing and amazing BJ. She sucked me for 15 min, fucked in 2-3 and went back to BJ.
Conl: Repeat due to BJ.
Sat in the sofa under the stairs and looked for girls walking back and fourth trying to see if there are any girls I wanted. It was getting late and I went hanging outside the lounge. Saw I girl that I like she went down to the kino. I went after her and meet in the stairs, asked her to cum with me to the kino. Asked her if she wanted to do in kino room or outside room.
3. Cynthia (madagaskar?) brunette, failry tall, slim body, natural a I blv. No kissing, allow DATY and reponsive enough, good BJ.
Conl: Repeat.
Other observations:
I see the same girls walking back and forth to the kino. I guess there are lot of girls just hanging in the lounge. Don't like it there bc girls so agressive, but will try to go there as if its crowdy sharks have many options, LOL.
In the sofa relax area I saw I girl sitting w a guy for a very long time. Which make me wonder is he paying to her time to sit w him or just expecting a longer session in the room later? I think the 1 option.
Any know Amelia / Amira? Brunnette, around 170, natural see I blv. She told me "special service" I. E. Would DFK, DATY for 1 HR session. Said no but actually wanted a 30 min.
Another very hard selling hard Annelise, very hot much my newly aquired shark alert went off. Anyone knows if her services are good?
Did see Nicole but didn't take her as Frozty comments put me off and I rmb to have read some other reports about her I. E. No doggie. She def. My type kind of girl but won't be good if service is bad.
Saw Valeska hook an asian and sold treesome with her gfl (name? Slutty looking girl). Took the time and it seems they were finihed in less than 15 min more like 10 min.
Will try to catch Christina and try some blondes as most of the girls I tried were brunettes / black hair. Saw a hot girl with a angel wing tattoo on her back but she was getting a massage while the guy was trying to learn it? Think he paid her for getting a massage, LOL.
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[QUOTE=EtrnalFeminine;1702141]Frozty,
I'll be visiting next month and Gabrielle is on my do list. Can you provide a description of her to help me recognize her? After researching this forum the only description I managed to find is '26, black hair, very white skin'.
Also, maybe it's just me but the Russian girls (Natasha, Katarina, Ella) tend to provide great GFE. I mean, they seem to me a rather affectionate bunch. P.S. I don't think Katarina works there anymore.
EF[/QUOTE]Frozty has a good description of her. She usually come to the kino once in a while, very nice to talk to even if I'm not directly interested.
Haven't tried her as her looks don't immediately attract me but maybe just for the GFE. She told me travels back and forth so if you are unlucky you might miss her.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1702081]Christina started kissing while into the session and when she knew I will stay at least an hour. Many girls are like this.
Artemis has, in my opinion, one of the best well maintained facilities. Food is usually good too, so I think you had a bad food day, which can happen anywhere.
Don't forget also that Artemis is the only decent FKK in Berlin and it caters to a lot of tourists. Therefore, a lot of girls behave accordingly (service, on average, is not like at Oase, Sharks, World, etc' So, it requires more talk to know which girl will do what and also. You can ask them if in a one hour session they would do DFK and stuff.
A year back I asked a Romanian tall girl (wear a collar from fabric on her neck usually and a pony tail with brown hair) that still works there if she kisses, and she replied loudly "no I don't kiss, this guy wants to kiss. " We ended up in the room for a 1.5 hour session with DFK and it was a great session.
I like Artemis a lot, but if one is not vigilant with respect to the girl he chooses, service might not be as expected.
Carla is also great, ro, face is OK, great great ass, awesome personality and one of my favorites.[/QUOTE]Yeah alot of tourists and many won't ever come back so no need to provide good service as to the regulars I blv. Maybe that's the girl I saw before but she is blonde wearing white. Asked her if she do DFK and she was like telling her friend "this guy wants DFK" in romanian or somethig, LOL.
Don't want to committ to a 1 HR session if the services aren't as good as advertized, but I do understand that girls don't want to provide DFK, DATY for 30 min session.
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30 Min GFE
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1702508]Yeah alot of tourists and many won't ever come back so no need to provide good service as to the regulars I blv. but I do understand that girls don't want to provide DFK, DATY for 30 min session.[/QUOTE]Well there are many theories about many things but after several thousand years at the Fick Fabrik, RB can say it all boils down to chemistry. If you take your time, choose well, are clean and smell nice, and exhibit just a little charm and respect (hiding your diploma from the Conan the Barbarian School of Etiquette),...
there is absolutely no problem experiencing and enjoying DFK and DATY in a 30 min session.
You just need to click with a girl, feel the vibe, and not be shy about walking away if all does not feel right. Some girls are not comfortable there, or even with their bodies, and the whole Artemis deal is just putting in the time to get the Euros. You need to develop a sense of this, and avoid. But most are friendly, and also want to have a pleasant time; they do not have rules about what they will feel in 30 min vs 1 hours. You just have to tune in to what makes them tick, and somehow create a mood that you are not just another stupid tourist with a cock. And reality being what it is, sometimes a girl will simply not find you sufficiently attractive to kiss or let you lick her or whatever. It has nothing to do with "service" (itself a highly subjective concept); it just happens, and even lots more Euros won't change it. So you just roll with it, and decide if knowing this, you still want to carry on. RB would not, but many are happy enough with an optifick so that's fine for them. Common sense, really.
It does take a little practice, but really not so much as just take the time up front to talk, do a little light touching, and get things in synch, basically seducing each other, vs just grabbing an item off the shelf in a supermarket.
I have been surprised many times with real passion, even with girls who have a kind of cool, distant, tough, even intimidating personna, like Vegas, Lena, Sariah, or Lea or even some of the late Team Abdul gang. You can have a roaring good time for 30 min if you just slow it down, get things right at the beginning, and with a little talking up front before you head off, the 30 min is actually 45 or so. Just toward the closing of the deal, be clear what you want if there are deal breakers, and don't zimmer if the vibe is dubious. The good times are easy if you make the girl feel comfortable, and it's not that difficult.
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Well, I've booked my hotel in Berlin and Artemis is due a visit. I have been there before so only have 2 questions: is there still an ATM on site for cash and also will there be a lot of girls this coming week since its Easter holidays?
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Yes there still is an ATM in there, I am there now, or on a break Out to get something to eat. I came around 12 and there was maybe 20-30 girls, maybe 10 men. 1 saw 2 girls who where new, they were given a tour of one of the other girls, so far so good, 2 girls so far, more to come.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1702911]Well, I've booked my hotel in Berlin and Artemis is due a visit. I have been there before so only have 2 questions: is there still an ATM on site for cash and also will there be a lot of girls this coming week since its Easter holidays?[/QUOTE]
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Easter line up
Hi Artemis fans I would like to ask about the quality of the line -up nowadays just around the easter periods.
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Ella
Hello guys,
Artemis is definitely a great place to hang out, the lineup is great and there's enough diversity to please everyone.
Special thanks to Ella who provided me two unforgettable sessions. She's this nice blond Russian from St Petersburg. OK I know lot of blonds there. Well she's the one who smiles.
The two time fucking was great, BBBJ but no anal. She's got a kind of specialty with prostate massage she does very well. And apparently she really appreciate to drink your cum guy. Man the girl is hot! I had both times CIM during a 69 and it was the real porn star experience with a smiling GFE. Who could want more?
Well I've got some ideas.
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I've seen Ella many times and it is one heck of a hot girl. But all those things you mention normally comes with an extra cost. Or does she include them for the same price?
[QUOTE=Fredor1978;1703122]Hello guys,
Artemis is definitely a great place to hang out, the lineup is great and there's enough diversity to please everyone.
Special thanks to Ella who provided me two unforgettable sessions. She's this nice blond Russian from St Petersburg. OK I know lot of blonds there. Well she's the one who smiles.
The two time fucking was great, BBBJ but no anal. She's got a kind of specialty with prostate massage she does very well. And apparently she really appreciate to drink your cum guy. Man the girl is hot! I had both times CIM during a 69 and it was the real porn star experience with a smiling GFE. Who could want more?
Well I've got some ideas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1702911]Well, I've booked my hotel in Berlin and Artemis is due a visit. I have been there before so only have 2 questions: is there still an ATM on site for cash and also will there be a lot of girls this coming week since its Easter holidays?[/QUOTE]
I would try to avoid using their on site ATM. It comes with an extra cost. Can't recall how much it was, but still...
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[QUOTE=Fredor1978;1703122]Hello guys, Artemis is definitely a great place to hang out, the lineup is great and there's enough diversity to please everyone.[/QUOTE]I agree. Artemis can be very comfortable club and there's always some stunners around.
Only thing that also bothers me as a non-smoker is all that smoke in the lounge. But you don't have to be there all the time. It's a big club with lots of space to be around, especially in summer.
Summer is coming and it will be very cool again to chill at the backyard whirlpool and relax at the great finish sauna after sessions with girls.
I've had session with Ella last summer and I also think she's a good one. Not my favourite though, mostly because I prefer girls at my age LOL.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1703245]I've seen Ella many times and it is one heck of a hot girl. But all those things you mention normally comes with an extra cost. [/QUOTE]Quite sure about that CIM cost him 50 e extra and half an hour would be only one pop as usual. Well it could be another, but only if she's okay with that.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1696508]Any sign of Austrian girl Mandy?[/QUOTE]Saw a report about her from late January on another website. She have dyed her hair red now. Used to be blonde last year.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1703245]I've seen Ella many times and it is one heck of a hot girl. But all those things you mention normally comes with an extra cost. Or does she include them for the same price?
I would try to avoid using their on site ATM. It comes with an extra cost. Can't recall how much it was, but still...[/QUOTE]Hello,
You're definitely right I forgot to mention the extra costs. CIM was 50 and prostate massage 80. All the rest was included in the 60€ for 1/2 h fee.
Cheers
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Alisha
Hi all,
Does anyone know if Alisha still works at Artemis?
She told me she was about to retire in March.
The thing is that we saw twice and she provided me an incredible GFE+++ experience. I won't go into details but I think she's been nice with me while I was loosing my head for her. Took me a while to realize all that was just her business and I've just met one who does it extremely well, at the point you can loose tracks of what's real and what's not.
To sum up things her retiring could just have been part of this tale, so if anyone has got precise information about it, I'll be glad to know.
Many thanks to all for your great reviews and support.
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Berlin adventures planning!
[QUOTE=Niklassthlm;1702964]Yes there still is an ATM in there, I am there now, or on a break Out to get something to eat. I came around 12 and there was maybe 20-30 girls, maybe 10 men. 1 saw 2 girls who where new, they were given a tour of one of the other girls, so far so good, 2 girls so far, more to come.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I am having a bit of a dilemma: I will definitely visit Artemis but I want to visit one or two of Berlin's famous brothels too. Which two would you good folks at ISG recommend? If AM was still here I suppose as a Berlin expert he could help but. Anyway I'm thinking of Monrouge and Liberty based purely on the websites. If anyone has any feedback on these places let me know.
Thanks again. What is Kamilla Dee like too as I vaguely remember that being discussed too.
Finally how about escorts who will come to hotel rooms? Any particular agencies or girls someone can recommend?
Danke!
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1703510]Finally how about escorts who will come to hotel rooms? Any particular agencies or girls someone can recommend? [/QUOTE]The Berlin forum is here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Fredor1978;1703427]Hi all,
Does anyone know if Alisha still works at Artemis?
She told me she was about to retire in March.
[/QUOTE]I would be interested to know about this. I only took her for the first time last visit. She was the last of six, so it was a fairly tame session. It seemed like she had potential to be great fun, and I am keen to see her again.
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Many girls say they are about to retire because they want you to take them to the room there and then. I normally don't buy it untill I see it. They might take a vacation perhaps.
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[QUOTE=Guy93;1703260]
I've had session with Ella last summer and I also think she's a good one. Not my favourite though, mostly because I prefer girls at my age LOL.[/QUOTE]But experience is normally a good thing wouldn't you say?
As for relationships I agree with you, but for a quickie, a MILF like Ella is sometimes the better option.
For me it is all about the daily mood what type of girl I prefer.
For example, Mondays are 'MILF-Monday', Tuesdays are 'tiny-Tuesday', then you have 'volporous-Wednesday', 'turkish-Thursday', 'frenchie-Friday', 'slim-Saturday' and 'shaved-Sunday'. Or actually it is just a hair-color, age and ass-type thingy that may change from day to day. Haha.
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Artemis visit
After quite a few visits to the clubs around Frankfurt, I chose to visit Artemis a cold winter day in February.
Some personal impressions and comparisons to the Frankfurt clubs:
Artemis is slightly more expensive, but do not offer better service than Oase, World or Palace. Inside the standard may be comparable to World. Food was OK, but I did not experience.
The same service / standard as Oase or World. However, close distance to Tegel Airport and a good choose of Hotels nearby is definitely an advantage.
I arrived early morning and was one of the first men in the club. A nice blonde German girl started shouting to me as soon as I entered the bar area to get my attention.
Very nice looking and quite busy looking for customers, and kept repeatedly trying to get my attention by shouting across the room.
After a short meal I went to the downstairs cinema to relax and was soon approached by a dark hear beauty (Alexandra or Alexia). She had a total different approach, and we soon finished in the cinema.
I spent some time restoring and exploring the club, and talked to quite a few of the girls. Nice, friendly and without the more aggressive approach you experience at Palace.
In the bar area I was approached by Sasha, nice friendly and good looking. I told her I was too early for a new session, but she tried anyway. Although I refused her polite and clearly, she kept.
Trying to convince med for more than 30 min. Constantly smoking strong cigarettes and trying to talk me into follow her to the room. Although she is an attractive girl, I do not visit a FKK club to search for.
The long conversations / discussions and finally she left, making it very clear that I had now missed my chance forever.
She was soon replaced by Ramona, who chose a totally different way. With a big smile, one hand under my robe and the tip of her tongue touching a few sensitive areas, we reached the room.
In less than 5 minutes and I had a great time with her.
After another similar session as the one with Sasha with a Greek girl (long verbal persuasion, no physical contact), I was approached by a tall blonde German girl. Unfortunately I do not remember.
Her name, but she gave a nice time.
Totally a good day at Artemis. Expensive and not top food selection Large variety of girls, overall nice and friendly. Personally I do not like that the whole bar area is smoking area. I will be back.
Primarily because of the vicinity to Tegel Airport and easy accommodation close by.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1703692]Many girls say they are about to retire because they want you to take them to the room there and then. I normally don't buy it untill I see it. They might take a vacation perhaps.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That's the whole point: why did I buy it from Alisha?
Let's say I'm a frequent flyer, I know many of you are. Before her I already had so many GFE that went the extra mile and more, especially in Russia, Lebanon, Thailand and the USA (last trip to Manhattan was a real fuck fest). And stories I heard, oh man.
First time I met her was last December (14) it already was special, nothing related to my previous experiences. The cuddling and delicate kissing, the stare. I was so intrigued that in January I arranged to pass on Saturday night by Berlin on my way from Bangkok to Geneva. Only for her. Luckily she was there and we spent 4 h together, we had a hell of a hot sex but also great moment of tenderness when she started to share most intimate details of her life and when I did the same she went the farthest into the feelings you could show. There I was stunned.
Still there's this little voice saying that she gave me just what she felt I needed to, because she's just a great professional. I was was in a state of mind for that, I already had a the hots for her, one week in Bangkok ran high on my nerves and after a 14 h flight there was but a few brain left when I entered Artemis.
Now, the fact that she retires in March was just a not-so-intimate detail she told me. Surprisingly it it wasn't true it would help me disbelieve her other words and go on.
Thank you for the courageous who read me.
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Rest of my Berlin trip.
I will try to keep it short and not bore people here to death, LOL.
Day 3:
Christina, blond, great nataral see, very fit: after recommendation from Danny and after initial contact I was looking especially for her. When I saw her downstair I went after her. Took her 1 h LFK, sucking, multiple positions. Great fuck I must say but didn't try her for the rest of the trip bc she didn't really DFK (maybe bc I ate garlic that day idk).
Conc: will try again on my next trip.
Silvia, very slin fit body, brunette: she actually my last girl on day 2 I. E. Not Cynthia. 1 h with great BJ and fucking. One of my fav at Artemis and everytime she walks pass me makes me want to take her again, LOL.
Christine? Very tall blonde from Romania wearing glasses, she came up to me we talked for long time and went up. Nice personality, oki BJ.
Concl: not likely if there are more petite girls around.
Day 4:
Lucy (Hun), very skinny blonde w small tits: had a nice convo before taking her ok BJ not on the lvl of Silvia and ok fuck. Nice girl.
Concl: again yes if there aren't better options around.
Milla (kazakstan), skinny brunette, fake tits: nice talk before session. Good BJ and ok fuck.
Concl: no repeat bc I'm not really a fan of fake boobies, LOL.
Gabriella (Poland): very nice girl we talked before. I told her I needed 10 min rest and she sat with me in the relax area bar. DFK, good BJ and ok fuck.
Concl: not likely bc she is not really my type in terms of looks.
Day 5:
Sunday and it was very quite. Jana came up to me wanting me to take her saying she was leaving soon. When I was ready she was already gone. I was eyeing one girl with glasses but she never approached me so I was hesitant to ask her. Many girls I meet before wanting me to take them again but I told them I wanted to see other girls first.
Saw a blonde with amazing body ala Christina but her boobs hanging out with another good looking blonde and Christina (saw her on Saturday also). Wanted to take her but looked a little bit sharky.
It was getting late I was sitting in the sofa, the girl glasses that I wanted smiled at me again and I went up to her and off to the room we go without much convo.
Natali, brunette, very next door girl type: great session with kissing and closest to GFE. Idk maybe bc she like me at least she told me so, LOL.
Concl: yes will repeat def.
Last day:
Due to time restriction (flight in a few hrs) I arrived around 12.
Jana, good body but her boobs hanging a little bit, good personality. The session wasn't anything memorable.
Concl: don't think so.
After resting a while Nadja came up to me. She is friends with Jana always walking together. She is a bit taller, fake tits which I usually don't like but somehow I wanted to fuck her. Told her I was resting and would see her later. Too bad for when I was ready one of her regular was talking to her and according to Jana she will be busy for the next couple of hrs.
I had to leave very soon and was hoping Silvia wud appear soon. So I pretty much grabbed her when she came back to the lounge. Again great BJ and fuck.
Conl: one of the fav and 100% repeat.
I think I haven't seen the whole LU yet as many girls home for Easter. Asked about Fatima but she wasn't there so there will def. Be girls that I haven't seen this time around (regulars and new ones) for my next time.
I like to talk to the girls a little bit before commiting to a session even if I like their looks bc that way I can gain knowledge about their personality (sure they can act still its safer). Prefer slimmer body types and naturals.
Well this is it and can't wait for my July trip to Frankfurt! Ciao.
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Business Trip to Berlin
Great reports!
I am in Berlin on business for a few days and am looking at going to Artemis and maybe one other.
My question is which days are best and times for maximum and happy girls! I. E. If you go early on a Monday morning I am sure the girl pool will be low.
Also can you stay all day and is the pool and sauna good quality to sit in and swim around etc whilst waiting for second wind?
I also fancy trying another brothel but maybe a cheaper one for the second day any suggestions?
Also do any girls do anal or BBBJ or DT?
Really appreciate any answers, first time in Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Banafly;1704814]Great reports!
I am in Berlin on business for a few days and am looking at going to Artemis and maybe one other.
My question is which days are best and times for maximum and happy girls! I. E. If you go early on a Monday morning I am sure the girl pool will be low.
Also can you stay all day and is the pool and sauna good quality to sit in and swim around etc whilst waiting for second wind?
I also fancy trying another brothel but maybe a cheaper one for the second day any suggestions?
Also do any girls do anal or BBBJ or DT?
Really appreciate any answers, first time in Berlin.[/QUOTE]The pool is sometimes a bit cold and the shape doesn't make it suitable for swimming. But it's ok for a shorter dip to cool off. There is an ordinary hot sauna and a cooler biosauna. Both are OK. The lower bar next to the pool area is also much more quiet with few girls around during daytime so it should be possible to relax there without being harassed by sharks.
Regarding the services. All girls in Artemis perform BBBJ and most also do CIM. If you want DFK, DT or anal you should ask before you go to the room. Some will and some will not offer these services.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1704870]The pool is sometimes a bit cold and the shape doesn't make it suitable for swimming. But it's ok for a shorter dip to cool off. There is an ordinary hot sauna and a cooler biosauna. Both are OK. The lower bar next to the pool area is also much more quiet with few girls around during daytime so it should be possible to relax there without being harassed by sharks.
Regarding the services. All girls in Artemis perform BBBJ and most also do CIM. If you want DFK, DT or anal you should ask before you go to the room. Some will and some will not offer these services.[/QUOTE]I confirm BBBJ is standard.
Note that CIM will usually cost an additional 50€, anal 100€. Never been charged for DFK, DATY or 69.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1704870]The pool is sometimes a bit cold and the shape doesn't make it suitable for swimming. But it's ok for a shorter dip to cool off. There is an ordinary hot sauna and a cooler biosauna. Both are OK. The lower bar next to the pool area is also much more quiet with few girls around during daytime so it should be possible to relax there without being harassed by sharks.
Regarding the services. All girls in Artemis perform BBBJ and most also do CIM. If you want DFK, DT or anal you should ask before you go to the room. Some will and some will not offer these services.[/QUOTE]Thats great info, many thanks!
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Berlin is one of my favorite cities. Among major western European capital cities (I mean London, Paris, Rome, etc.), it is the least expensive, the least heavily mobbed by tourists and one of the most interesting places for things to do and see. It also happens to be home to what is still my favorite FKK, Artemis. I wasn't really planning to go there all three nights I was in the German capital, but what else was I going to do at night? I did all the other things I wanted to do during the day and I'm not really a candidate to take advantage Berlin's famous regular clubs and bars. So knowing that I would probably be going to Artemis 3 nights in a row and I would already be a bit tired from doing other things during the day, I decided to limit myself to one or two girls per night.
I didn't take good notes from my several encounters, so I will just mention the highlights. By far the biggest highlight was the last girl I saw on the third night, Gabby. Gabby is a beautiful Hungarian girl (always had good luck with Hungarians) with long dark brown hair, a pretty face, a great ass and nice natural breasts (B, I think). She wears little makeup and has no tattoos. She's just a natural, pretty, wholesome looking girl, a look that contrasts strongly with that of the stereotypical fake-boobed porno-look girls who sometimes seem to dominate a club like Artemis. But when I go to an FKK, I don't care whether there are a bunch of girls who don't appeal to me. I only care whether I can find those few girls who do appeal to me.
Of course, it's more than just looks, a lot more in fact. I'm always in search of that girl who seduces me with her personality, intelligence and charm as much as her looks. To start the evening I spent a half hour with a cute and sweet Romanian blond and the sex was good but not particularly memorable. I wasn't even sure that I wanted to have a last session for the night. I was considering calling it a night until I encountered Gabby.
Gabby turned out to be the girl I was looking for. We talked for a little while in the main room and she never pressured me to go to the room. But after 10 or 15 minutes I knew that I had to take her to a room even though I was tired and thinking about leaving. I told her that I wasn't sure I could perform well, but I didn't really care. I just wanted to spend some private moments with her and feel her gentle touch.
Artemis was busy (it was a Saturday night) and we had to wait 10 minutes for a room. We sat on a couch at the top of the stairs and talked more. By the time we got in the room, I was in love. Well, deep like anyway.
Gabby gave me a nice gentle massage (not a real massage since she's not trained) and it felt great. We talked (she has very good English skills but not perfect) while she rubbed my back and shoulders and the first 30 minutes flew by. Of course I extended for another 30 minutes and I didn't bother moving things to the next level. So I extended for another 30 minutes. At that point Gabby had recharged my batteries and I was ready for a more intimate encounter.
So at the start of the second hour I got to know Gabby on a more intimate basis. Her skills and service level are excellent. I was very satisfied with her performance. When we finished we still had fifteen minutes and we lay on the bed and talked while she touched me gently and I felt relaxed and content. I wanted to extend the session for another 30 minutes or more but I had a train to catch early the next morning and so I called it a night.
As for the other girls that I met during my 3 nights, none came close to Gabby. Besides the blond Romanian, there was a tall half Romanian, half Russian from Kazakhstan whose company I enjoyed (can't remember her name) and a German blond named Mariella who serviced me nicely in the kino. I won't remember them, but I hope that I'll always remember Gabby and maybe someday get to see her again.
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Visiting June 14 through 17.
Hi,
Thanks for all the useful posts. How is Artemis during mid June? I'm thinking of staying at a good hotel and talking taxi. How is it a taxi there? Is there a service like Uber good instead? Hotel recommendation? Really looking forward to it. I'll post reviews if I can.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=CaptRenno;1705414]
I didn't take good notes from my several encounters, so I will just mention the highlights. By far the biggest highlight was the last girl I saw on the third night, Gabby. Gabby is a beautiful Hungarian girl (always had good luck with Hungarians) with long dark brown hair, a pretty face, a great ass and nice natural breasts (B, I think). She wears little makeup and has no tattoos. She's just a natural, pretty, wholesome looking girl.
[/QUOTE]Hello Captain,
Is Gabby a short girl and young, I mean 19-20?
Thanks.
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Mid June
[QUOTE=NYMike;1705674]Hi,
Thanks for all the useful posts. How is Artemis during mid June? I'm thinking of staying at a good hotel and talking taxi. How is it a taxi there? Is there a service like Uber good instead? Hotel recommendation? Really looking forward to it. I'll post reviews if I can.
Thanks[/QUOTE]UFC is in Berlin on the 20th of June. Might be packed with fight fans afterwards.
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1705684]Hello Captain,
Is Gabby a short girl and young, I mean 19-20?
[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say she is short. More like average in height. She is young but I would estimate 23-24 rather than 19-20.
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[QUOTE=NYMike;1705674]Hi,
Thanks for all the useful posts. How is Artemis during mid June? I'm thinking of staying at a good hotel and talking taxi. How is it a taxi there? Is there a service like Uber good instead? Hotel recommendation? Really looking forward to it. I'll post reviews if I can.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Romantik Hotel Kronprinz Berlin.
[URL]http://www.kronprinz-hotel.de/start.html?&L=1[/URL]
This hotel is within walking distance of Artemis.
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Extra services
[QUOTE=Banafly;1704814]Great reports!
I am in Berlin on business for a few days and am looking at going to Artemis and maybe one other.
My question is which days are best and times for maximum and happy girls! I. E. If you go early on a Monday morning I am sure the girl pool will be low.
Also can you stay all day and is the pool and sauna good quality to sit in and swim around etc whilst waiting for second wind?
I also fancy trying another brothel but maybe a cheaper one for the second day any suggestions?
Also do any girls do anal or BBBJ or DT?
Really appreciate any answers, first time in Berlin.[/QUOTE]Oh, you do not have to worry because there are always Girls working at any time. It is the game of Euro. If you want to make some extra With the Girls you should always discuss that before you go to the room. Not all the Girls do extra as CIM or anal and some do not like DFK. It is too late to start the discussion With the girl in the room. There are a lot of Girls doing anal, but this is not to be written here. There are a lot of other Places to go, good and cheap as well, King George and Caligula are good and the girls are nice.
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[QUOTE=Oskar517;1705888]Romantik Hotel Kronprinz Berlin.
[URL]http://www.kronprinz-hotel.de/start.html?&L=1[/URL]
This hotel is within walking distance of Artemis.[/QUOTE]That is fantastic. Thank you!
Has anyone here stayed there before? It looks great.
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Quick prereport
Spent an evening in Artemis and had two sessions. One biggest burn session I have ever had due to my rookie like errors all due to a pretty face and for not negotiating before hand and the other one of the best sessions of my life. Scarlet and Nele. Details to follow later. Both German! Food okay now. Almost impossible to get girls to kiss for just the standard 60. Nele was an awesome session though. Tall, 175 cm, platinum blonde Deutsche Frau from the famous Harbour City. Face / body / personality / performance is 9/9/9/4. For first and 9/9/9/9. 5 for Nele.
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[QUOTE=NYMike;1706242]That is fantastic. Thank you!
Has anyone here stayed there before? It looks great.[/QUOTE]I was just back from Berlin on 04/10/15 and I stayed at that hotel for 4 nights. It took me about 10 minutes walk from the hotel to Artimis. Very convenient!
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Aspira
[QUOTE=NYMike;1706242]That is fantastic. Thank you!
Has anyone here stayed there before? It looks great.[/QUOTE]I haven't and it is the closest hotel to the Club -but check out the Hotel Aspira too. It's quite close. Definitely walking distance and the gym is fantastic as it the hotel and the spa.
Enjoy!
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Just one thing, I have scoured to find.
Best times to visit?
I am there Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
Is any day the same amount of girls etc?
And what time is best, I mean if I go in the day am is there going to be a lack of women and hung over. There must be an optimum time to go as far as times go?
Also realistically could you spend 3 or 4 hours in there easily, chatting with girls and colleagues I am taking on business?
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To just add that I think, in hindsight giving Scarlet a 4 for performance was harsh and it was more like a 7 as she did do everything I asked. Just a lot of things I expect to be standard were extras and some were genuine extras but charging extra for DFK and stuff. And it is my fault for being a sucker for a pretty face and hot bod and not negotiating beforehand. Shows you even the experienced can get burned sometimes!
There were a LOT of girls there on Sat. Night and a lot of Germans girls too -- the average age was probably closer to 30 in my opinion. Enough hots to keep everyone satisfied -- if you have deep pockets. But there were gems like Nele too. Wonderful girl and great performance.
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Where when why
[QUOTE=Banafly;1706670]Just one thing, I have scoured to find.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you have not scoured [B]"Artemis FAQ"[/B] - hotels, power days,all the basics.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1690800&viewfull=1#post1690800[/URL]
Times have been discussed ad nauseum; slow during the day 10-15 girls; starts filling up around 630 pm, full shift on as of 8 pm.
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Sybarite-so this latest is your post posting, to modify your pre-posting? Glad you corrected the number because my excel sheet was thrown off.
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I went to Artemis for the first time last week. Prices for entry (80 eur) and session (60 eur /30 min) are higher than elsewhere. Accessibility is excellent, a very short walk from Westkreuz S-bahn stn, only 2. 70 eur from anywhere in Berlin. Facilities were fine. Note that the bar / lounge where everyone congregates is very smokey. Food was meh and not on offer around the clock. I arrived around 4 pm and had to wait until 6 pm for the kitchen to open, and it re-closes at 2 am. As far as I can tell, you can't even get a snack outside these hours.
Lineup was decent. Girls are mostly mid-20's. Didn't see many girls available if at all. Girls approach a fair bit. Two girls I took:
1. Raissa (Romania, 26): She looks like a slimmer Aubrey Plaza. Wearing a black mesh top covering shoulder area. Body looks younger than her age. Dark complexion. BBBJ was sub par. Didn't allow even kisses on the neck for basic 30 min rate. This was a FKK first for me. YMMV. Also often likes to keep her hand close to the dick, said this was to check the condom. A little annoying but OK. Complained that I was doing too much fucking around the 20 min mark. Was pretty bitchy at first but loosened up as the session progressed. We were exchanging lighthearted snappy remarks which was fun. She kept coming to me after the session and making little inside jokes.
2. Cheyenne (Germany, refused to give age): She looks like Anne Hathaway. I usually don't take these pornstar types but I digging her physically: big fake tits and tattooed back on a lovely slim frame, with sexy knee-high stockings. Attitude was not great before the room or inside, pretty mechanical. But fantastic Optifuck and I came fairly quickly which is a rare for me. Pro BBBJ, wet and good suction.
Artemis was decent but I wouldn't come back to Berlin just to go there. If the prices weren't higher than normal then maybe I would.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1706798]
Sybarite-so this latest is your post posting, to modify your pre-posting? Glad you corrected the number because my excel sheet was thrown off.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should share your manual for finding gems at Artemis or is it more like "Artemis for Dummies", LOL.
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Exodus: It is a recurring incident at internet forums when random guy asks newer random guy to read endless walls of text before asking a question. Like an oxymoron.
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Artemis. Which Day / Time?
Hi,
I am there tomorrow on business, which day out of Tues / Weds / Thurs would be best for selection and not too busy?
Also really unsure what time to go, is there more girls around say 9 pm as opposed to midday?
Can you really kill 3 or 4 hours there easily?
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[QUOTE=Banafly;1707075]Hi,
I am there tomorrow on business, which day out of Tues / Weds / Thurs would be best for selection and not too busy?
Also really unsure what time to go, is there more girls around say 9 pm as opposed to midday?
Can you really kill 3 or 4 hours there easily?[/QUOTE]Thursday 19:00.
You can kill a whole day.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1706994]Exodus: It is a recurring incident at internet forums when random guy asks newer random guy to read endless walls of text before asking a question. Like an oxymoron.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to me? I have tried very hard not to be one, LOL.
[QUOTE=Banafly;1707075]Hi,
I am there tomorrow on business, which day out of Tues / Weds / Thurs would be best for selection and not too busy?
Also really unsure what time to go, is there more girls around say 9 pm as opposed to midday?
Can you really kill 3 or 4 hours there easily?[/QUOTE]Wed or Thur. Dayshift girls end their day around 8 pm so if you want to talk a little before zimmer.
You could easily spend a whole day there its paradise I. E. Fucking, relax, eat and fuck as long as yr bank account allows, LOL.
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I was referring to the topic. Its an oxymoron.
Out of tue, wed and thu I deffinately prefer wed. Simply because the girls are allowed to wear a bit more clothes (sexier lingerie). Other days of the week they almost have to fully naked. Which can get a bit tedious...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1707846]I was referring to the topic. Its an oxymoron.
Out of tue, wed and thu I deffinately prefer wed. Simply because the girls are allowed to wear a bit more clothes (sexier lingerie). Other days of the week they almost have to fully naked. Which can get a bit tedious...[/QUOTE]Ok I see. I try to find answers at clubs website or earlier posts before asking questions otherwise others will give me a beating, hehe.
It depends if you have seen the girls naked before then it's better with sexy lingerie I. E. Something to look forward to in the zimmer.
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I think you missunderstood. But its fine.
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A couple of visits this week. Lovely weather yesterday with sun, blue skies and 23 degrees Centigrade outside. Tried out the outside garden and the jacuzzi for the first time.
Did Avia, German girl with long black hair and blue eyes. Also Sheila, another German girl, skinny with long black hair. She was energetic and funny. Good eye contact when anal in mish. Ended the evening with a threesome with Jana and Nadja. The two Berliner girls. I have met Jana before and this time they wanted to do a threesome. I know it is a try for up selling but I agreed to it still. A really nice session. Nadja is the prettiest but Janas blowjob is better.
Back in Artemis today for some more fun. Went with the famous Ella for the first time. Good blowjob and fun in the room. A real MILF. Ended with Georgina from Georgia. A 27 year old spinner with small natural breasts, long black hair. The best blowjob in a long time and her pussy was super tight. Wonderful to do in doggy. Will repeat.
That's all for now. Will be back next week again for some more fun.
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Trip report to Artemis
After years of hearing about Artemis, I had to pay my respects when I was there in Berlin on Business recently.
I got a taxi from Berlin Mitte area for 20 Euro, the trip was about 15 minutes.
When you get to Artemis it is near a autobahn and has a very big car park much like a supermarket.
Once inside there are 3 floors, and you go to reception where you are greeted and pay 80 euros to the receptionist, she in turn gives you a brown robe, towel and a key you then head up one flight of stairs to the changing rooms where communal changing rooms await with showers, get washed up and ready for action, locking all of your gear away including money (very secure by the way).
You then head to the middle floor where a bar like area surrounded by loungers, chairs and girls surrounding the whole place. I went on a Wednesday night and I estimate there were around 50 - 60 girls on show at anyone time plus maybe 10 - 15 in bedrooms, this is a bit of a guess as very hard to tell exactly. What I will say is there is no doubt the girls to me anyhow (plenty of monger experience) were mostly 8's, some 9's and some 7's, for me it was the most concentrated amount of hot hookers I have ever seen in one place at any given time.
You can talk freely to passing girls, and comfortably approach them, the costs are 60 euro for 30 minutes of Sex / BBBJ, 100 euro extra for anal, 50 euro for CIM. Some of the girls were a little jaded as usual and mechanical, but I must say as a bonus if you stand in the stairwell, you see all the girls come back down from the bedrooms, and I would estimate in seeing around 40 - 50 totally naked girls all night, which was pretty cool too.
Downstairs there is a steam room / sauna, swimming pool and another bar with food which is inclusive, however I forgot this due to the amount of pussy that was on show.
I comfortably spent 4 -5 hours there, banged 2 and left with some good images in mind. The girls tend to be the taller stripper eastern European type of girl, there was plenty of beauties but as I said I am sure many are mechanical, I guess most are servicing around 5 - 20 a night.
It was a good old fashioned brothel with no holes barred! It was worth the money, however I probably personally prefer the spending a little more time with each girl, rather than 30-60 minutes.
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I am soon going back to Artemis again and I am curious if you can ID a girl for me and provide some feedback. She's a blonde with straight cut bangs, very slim with small natural tits. Her face has kind of a special look. She's elegant but not baby face cute. She usually sits in the sofas in the narrow section behind the bar. Does not approach guys much. I think she could be Russian or from the basaltic. Any feedback appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1709604]I am soon going back to Artemis again and I am curious if you can ID a girl for me and provide some feedback. She's a blonde with straight cut bangs, very slim with small natural tits. Her face has kind of a special look. She's elegant but not baby face cute. She usually sits in the sofas in the narrow section behind the bar. Does not approach guys much. I think she could be Russian or from the basaltic. Any feedback appreciated.[/QUOTE]I did speak with a girl who was on far right on own as you walk in at back of bar area, she was always alone and seemed very natural, a little older than the others maybe 28? Classy looking and nice and Eastern European for sure, if so she was there last Wednesday!
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[QUOTE=Banafly;1709832]I did speak with a girl who was on far right on own as you walk in at back of bar area, she was always alone and seemed very natural, a little older than the others maybe 28? Classy looking and nice and Eastern European for sure, if so she was there last Wednesday![/QUOTE]Yes, it might be her. I was also at Artemis last Wednesday and I did see her too. I've seen her another time when I was there in January. She has an interesting look which is different from the others and I am curious if anyone had been with her and had some info.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1709604]I am soon going back to Artemis again and I am curious if you can ID a girl for me and provide some feedback. She's a blonde with straight cut bangs, very slim with small natural tits. Her face has kind of a special look. She's elegant but not baby face cute. She usually sits in the sofas in the narrow section behind the bar. Does not approach guys much. I think she could be Russian or from the basaltic. Any feedback appreciated.[/QUOTE]That sounds like Mila, from Latvia. She's a top girl. Great to talk with outside of the room, and good service in the room. She takes long breaks from the club these days. I have only sessioned with her once, due to her apparent aloofness. She is actually very friendly when you approach her.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1709945]Yes, it might be her. I was also at Artemis last Wednesday and I did see her too. I've seen her another time when I was there in January. She has an interesting look which is different from the others and I am curious if anyone had been with her and had some info.[/QUOTE]Small world eh, what's the chances.
Was a good night, but did find the girls a little mechanical, but guess that is how it is in this type of place.
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Going outside
Hi,
Do you know when they start going outside to enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. For the moment, it still is a bit cold, but I am hoping to go outside and also onto the roof garden maybe early may?
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[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1710192]Hi,
Do you know when they start going outside to enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. For the moment, it still is a bit cold, but I am hoping to go outside and also onto the roof garden maybe early may?[/QUOTE]There is a glass door in the dinning room and this glass door is not locked. You can go outside anytime you want via this glass door.
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[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1710192]Hi,
Do you know when they start going outside to enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. For the moment, it still is a bit cold, but I am hoping to go outside and also onto the roof garden maybe early may?[/QUOTE]I spent some time outside last week. It was nice and warm in the sun. The pool was closed but I used the jacuzzi and the sauna. I saw only one girl outside but a few men relaxing in the afternoon. To cold to be outside in the evening this early in the year.
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Still cold
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1710201]There is a glass door in the dinning room and this glass door is not locked. You can go outside anytime you want via this glass door.[/QUOTE]It is still cold there. Oh well, will have to wait a bit longer before it is warm enough to have some fun out side!
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Wifi
Does FKK sharks, FKK oase or FKK Palace provide clients with WIFI?
I want to go online while I am not having sessions.
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We had 20 degrees here where I live in Scandinavia yesterday, so it shouldn't be 'early' at all. Just need some luck with the weather. After all, if you book a flight, you probably do it a month or so in advance, so can't decide to go by weather forecast either:
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Easy Question
I will be headed to Artemis for the first time in a couple of weeks and I will probably be able to visit two or three times over a two week period depending on my work schedule. My question is: are there any very petite (short, small framed) women that you regulars can recommend that gives a good performance? I have seen a very petite woman working out at my gym recently and that has got me trying to remember the last really small woman I was with.
Any help is appreciated.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1710360]Does FKK sharks, FKK oase or FKK Palace provide clients with WIFI?
I want to go online while I am not having sessions.[/QUOTE]Just buy a german simcard for 30 euro and you will have 5 gb mobile internet. You will need wase navigation for finding Oase and it works with mobile internet.
And i dont understand why you ask this here.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1710360]Does FKK sharks, FKK oase or FKK Palace provide clients with WIFI?
I want to go online while I am not having sessions.[/QUOTE]FKK Oase offers decent wifi. Reception will give you the password. As a previous poster mentioned, you are better off just getting a German SIM card and putting it in your unlocked GSM phone.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1710578]Just buy a german simcard for 30 euro and you will have 5 gb mobile internet. You will need wase navigation for finding Oase and it works with mobile internet.
And i dont understand why you ask this here.[/QUOTE]I got the wrong thread when I posted, sorry, but thanks guys.
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Palace has 3 computers for internet inside the club area. I don't think all clubs allow you to bring your phone inside though. You might want to call and ask in advance if it is important.
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Back in Artemis this week again. Now the outdoor pool is open and not just the jacuzzi. A little cold during my visit but a few men in the outside garden.
Did Lucy, 23 year old blonde from Hungary. A bit passive and felt like a beginner but good blowjob. Nice and sweet.
Also Cheyenne, the Anne Hathaway lookalike, super thin, black hair and silicon boobs. Filler in her lips and tattoo all over her back. A porn star experience, very active in bed. Good eye contact during anal in mish. Finished in her mouth.
Next was Leyla, or something similar. Tall girl, 178 cm plus heels, natural breasts, no tattoos and straight long black hair. A very pretty girl. Originally from Kazakstan with Russian parents but came to Germany when she was 12 years old. Very good blowjob, almost full deepthroat. Nice action in bed and she finished jerking off getting my load over her tongue. Girlfriend material.
Then I was really warned out but went with Brianna from Spain. Really petite girl with black hair and natural breasts. Funny, charming and active in bed. She gave her best and sucked my dick for a long time but I couldn't come due to the previous three girls. Gave her a good tip anyway.
Then heading back home with a smile.
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Lots of names here that I don't know. And I thought I knew quite a few of the names. Has anyone with good insight on the girls at Artemis any numbers to tell when it comes to new recruits at the club as of the last 6 months? I've only been here once since October, and it felt short on new blood when I was here in late March.
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Hello guys,
I have a question about FKK Artemis.
Are you allowed to keep any of your clothes on, say a T-Shirt? Or do you have to strip down nude and just wear their robe?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Peterpack;1712474] Are you allowed to keep any of your clothes on, say a T-Shirt? Or do you have to strip down nude and just wear their robe?
[/QUOTE]I'm not sure on the rule, but apart from the support staff I have never seen any man wearing any item of clothing in Artemis other than the towel and / or robe. I have occasionally seen shorts worn outside in the Frankfurt clubs. I don't know the reason for the question, but if you are self-consciousness, then you should relax as Artemis visitors come in all ages, shapes and sizes. If there are other reasons, then I guess you should do what you have to do; rules permitting.
If you don't want to wear their robe and shoes (they are pretty shabby), you are free to bring your own.
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You Can Leave Your Hat On
[QUOTE=Peterpack;1712474]Are you allowed to keep any of your clothes on, say a T-Shirt? Or do you have to strip down nude and just wear their robe?[/QUOTE]Certain cultures or individuals prefer not have male genitalia flopping about and Artemis, being the basically tolerant place that it is, does not really care. So it is not uncommon to see guys occasionally wearing underwear under a robe. T-shirts could be accommodated also I think under a robe-since some wear towels also. They just don't want people dressed in street clothes strolling about.
And you can if you have sufficient courage even wear some silly hat as some poncy mongers do. So as long as you are wearing the (or "a" if you bring your own) robe, not a problem. It is not the norm, but not so rare.
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Yet another visit this Friday. Went with Raisa, 26, Ro, thin with a perfect body, natural tits and long black hair. Tanned body. Nice to chat with. Good blowjob. A little passive during the sex. Ended with CIM.
Then did another session with Cheynne whom I sessioned earlier this week. See previous report. Super sexy and easily the best girl in Artemis if you want a porn star experience but she is very passionate too. Lots of feedback, moaning and eye contact. Had to do anal in both mish and doggy before CIM.
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Quick question: since I'm having a bit of a smoking fetish, are the girls allowed to smoke in the private rooms? If not, anywhere else one could enjoy one of the ladies in private while she smokes?
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[QUOTE=Gman1661;1712890]Quick question: since I'm having a bit of a smoking fetish, are the girls allowed to smoke in the private rooms? If not, anywhere else one could enjoy one of the ladies in private while she smokes?[/QUOTE]Yes, the girls can smoke in the private rooms.
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Yes, it's okay to smoke in the private rooms. (But you know to be there will be charged with 60 Euro / 30 Minutes.).
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Yes the girls are allowed to smoke in the rooms.
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First visit
Visited Artemis for my first time this Sunday. After reading up about Artemis in this forum I decided to stay at Hotel Kronprinz which was very close to both Artemis and the S-Bahn (very convenient indeed).
Paid my 80 Euros at the reception and received my robe and locker / safety box key.
Line up wasn't to bad in my opinion, not that I have anything to compare with being the first time.
Met Brigitta 29 yo from Hungary right outside the downstairs cinema.
Blonde hair, big silicone tits (which I like) and juicy lips.
Gave me a blowjob in the cinema while I was watching, continued in the room next to the cinema.
Looks: 9, Performance: 8
After sauna I was ready for number 2
Went upstairs with Meira 25 yo from Venezuela.
Slim tight body and long black hair. Latina goddess. My first time with a Latin woman.
She was absolutely fantastic, good kisser and even better BBBJ and fucking in different positions afterwards. We really connected well. Looks / performance: 10/10.
Left the premises at around 01 am.
Went back on Monday. Line up was not as good as on Sunday.
Tried Naida from Bosnia 26 yo.
Nice tall body and big tits. Absolutely amazing BBBJ and good fuck.
Looks / performance 9/9
Ended the evening with my Latin favorite Meira (Venezuela).
Left at 02 am with a big satisfied smile on my face.
Would really like to go back and can recommend the place for sure.
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[QUOTE=EricOh;1713626] Meira 25 yo from Venezuela.[/QUOTE]Is this girl short with dark skin?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1713984]Is this girl short with dark skin?[/QUOTE]Yes, that is correct. Very slim body type.
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Not always top
27/4 my visit. In the club 60 mans /60 girls.
Negatif: food service. Only pasta with ketchup. Restaurant open 6 pm. If you arrival 7 pm. You will have only pasta.
Girls. I was going with one to the room. It was 7/10.
If girls starting conversation. It is always same. Mother end father from different countries.
Days 2 same (40 men,40 girls). I was going with girl (tall girl withe white long hair (Paula) Information Pappa Russia, mother Spain.
It was very bad sex. No kisses. Handjob with linking top op dick. In 5 minutes sperm out. 5 minutes conversation. In less than 10 minutes out of room (60 euro in de wind).
Artemis is like machine sex. Take one seat end look how it work. Many sex boys coming down from room in less than 10 minutes.
I was visit in December 2014 end last week. But never again.
10 euro for glass of beer. And always. You ask drink. If you not say bite. No drink.
If you have 2 minutes conversation end girl ask. You go with my to room. If you answer is no. The girl will hate you rest of evening.
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[QUOTE=Willyboy;1714384]
Negatif: food service. Only pasta with ketchup. Restaurant open 6 pm. If you arrival 7 pm. You will have only pasta.
It was very bad sex. No kisses. Handjob with linking top op dick. In 5 minutes sperm out. 5 minutes conversation. In less than 10 minutes out of room (60 euro in de wind).
Artemis is like machine sex. Take one seat end look how it work. Many sex boys coming down from room in less than 10 minutes.
I was visit in December 2014 end last week. But never again.
10 euro for glass of beer. And always. You ask drink. If you not say bite. No drink.
If you have 2 minutes conversation end girl ask. You go with my to room. If you answer is no. The girl will hate you rest of evening.[/QUOTE]Maybe it was a bad food day but yeah the food isn't great anyways. LOL 5 min handjob? Guess you must've meet a hungry shark.
They could've made more money by low margin high turnover policy on the beer. Probably not doing it bc it will be hard to handle alot of drunk horny guys and / or girls complain noone go to zimmer bc of that.
Isn't it better that girls that you have no intention on taking anyways ignore you and you her? Most of the time I need to feel chemistry before zimmer time and 2 min doesn't cut it unless she's super hot.
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Somehow this has never happened to me at Artemis. Girls wanting to finnish in 5 or 10 minutes that is. However at Oase or Palace I've had it happen. I guess it all comes down to your reputation at the club. Like how many times you've been there, or how well you know the girls.
If they think you are someone they can push over, they will. And word goes fast among the girls. They talk more among themselves about us than we talk about them. Hehe
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I've done 16 girls at Artemis this year and all of the sessions ranged from OK to good or really, really good. My experience is that most girls can take a no without being pissed off. In some cases I've come back to them later and sessioned with them. Except for DFK, which is very unusual to be offered at Artemis, all the girls have delivered well in the service department.
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Indeed DFK is unusual. In my experience about 60% of the girls there that I have sessioned with kiss. Maybe a bit more considering I only pick the lookers. So it is most likely at around 70-80% taking all the girls into account. And those who does not kiss are usually some of the romanians and random others. But what has struck me is that the girls all tell me that kissing is frowned upon by the 'other girls' in the club. As if there are some girls there who are lobbying hard for kissing to not be a standard service. DFK is becaise of this also more rare at the club. I think I've been with about 30 girls at artemis and only 4-5 did DFK. Mostly some of the very good looking girls in their upper 20's who enjoys sex. I'm not naming names here though because some of the girls read this forum and I don't want to put some girls in bad situations. But it is deffinately something that needs to be fought.
P.S.: There is the exact same thing going on at clubs like Oase, Dolce Vita, World according to a romanian girl I once was with at Oase. The smart girls try to keep it secret if they do DFK. Because they know it gives them more customers. Young girls are afraid to get told out if they do. And it is a way for some older girls to keep the frequent visitors away from the younger girls.
But because of this I would never mention kissing and DFK in particular in reference to any particular girl. She might get frozen out in a club by the other girls there.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1715228]Indeed DFK is unusual. In my experience about 60% of the girls there that I have sessioned with kiss. Maybe a bit more considering I only pick the lookers. So it is most likely at around 70-80% taking all the girls into account. And those who does not kiss are usually some of the romanians and random others. But what has struck me is that the girls all tell me that kissing is frowned upon by the 'other girls' in the club. As if there are some girls there who are lobbying hard for kissing to not be a standard service. DFK is becaise of this also more rare at the club. I think I've been with about 30 girls at artemis and only 4-5 did DFK. Mostly some of the very good looking girls in their upper 20's who enjoys sex. I'm not naming names here though because some of the girls read this forum and I don't want to put some girls in bad situations. But it is deffinately something that needs to be fought.
P.S.: There is the exact same thing going on at clubs like Oase, Dolce Vita, World according to a romanian girl I once was with at Oase. The smart girls try to keep it secret if they do DFK. Because they know it gives them more customers. Young girls are afraid to get told out if they do. And it is a way for some older girls to keep the frequent visitors away from the younger girls.
But because of this I would never mention kissing and DFK in particular in reference to any particular girl. She might get frozen out in a club by the other girls there.[/QUOTE]Yes, there is a lot of social control going on between the girls in the club. One German girl told me she never does threesomes with other German girls as she has been told that she does to much in the room. The other German girls had told her off. But this girl said for example that if the man has payed extra for anal he should get a decent amount of anal intercourse and not just a few in and outs and then it's over. I love that attitude.
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The threesome stuff is another thing you just got to hate. It is a complete waste of time. And you allways like one girl more than the other, so attention goes that way either way. If a girl ask for a threesome it is either because she wants to help her friend who doesn't get any customers, or because they don't want to do anything at all in the room.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1715343]The threesome stuff is another thing you just got to hate. It is a complete waste of time. And you allways like one girl more than the other, so attention goes that way either way. If a girl ask for a threesome it is either because she wants to help her friend who doesn't get any customers, or because they don't want to do anything at all in the room.[/QUOTE]I had few good threesome session in Artemis, and both were as good looking as each other, but one thing I noticed is that, one girl always tend to work harder than the other, and it is eternal dilemma to which girl I want to finally cum with.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1715343]The threesome stuff is another thing you just got to hate. It is a complete waste of time. And you allways like one girl more than the other, so attention goes that way either way. If a girl ask for a threesome it is either because she wants to help her friend who doesn't get any customers, or because they don't want to do anything at all in the room.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more! All of the times except once at the infamous now closed Club Riviera in Bcn I have never had a great threesome and I have tried it at least 20 times. For me it always feels like the girls are holding back in the room. I guess I am very stupid for looking for that same experience I once found with 2 twin sisters in Bcn. God I miss those girls LOL.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1715343]The threesome stuff is another thing you just got to hate. It is a complete waste of time. And you allways like one girl more than the other, so attention goes that way either way. If a girl ask for a threesome it is either because she wants to help her friend who doesn't get any customers, or because they don't want to do anything at all in the room.[/QUOTE]In general I agree with you but there are some exceptions to the rule: I remember a very good session Valentina and Fernanda a couple of years ago in one of the rooms outside. Still my best 3-some experience ever and one of the best sessions at A all time. Liked both girls a lot. If the chemistry was right, I'd go for it again. But each to their own I guess.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1715228] I think I've been with about 30 girls at artemis and only 4-5 did DFK. Mostly some of the very good looking girls in their upper 20's who enjoys sex. I'm not naming names here though because some of the girls read this forum and I don't want to put some girls in bad situations. [/QUOTE]Do you know the real name of "Romina" from Artemis?
Can you please post it to me in private message?
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About real names
Hi,
Somebody here knows the real name of Romina (blue eyes) from Artemis?
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Her real name? For what? Do you want to stalk her?
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Best 3-some ever
[QUOTE=Pistons;1715343]The threesome stuff is another thing you just got to hate..[/QUOTE]Groucho, Chico, Harpo.
2nd best: Moe, Larry, Curly. .
3rd best: Kimino, Buck Rodgers, Zimmerbaby.
And what is the real name of the woman in this new MILF banner ad thingy stage left?
I betcha she might DFK. Or not.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1716590]
And what is the real name of the woman in this new MILF banner ad thingy stage left?
I betcha she might DFK. Or not.[/QUOTE]She's a damn sight more interesting than Scroguard...
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ARTEMIS visit from WEST Germany
I made it yesterday, Wednesday, May, 6th to Artemis. Best time ever had during my business travels to Berlin. There is a kind of IT Messe going on that week. Do not know exactly what. But still crowded during the evening hours and later night. That made also the hotel rooms around Messe expensive. But we all know.
Line up pretty good (I am not going to explain in detail). We all know, that is in the end a question of taste and individuality) big smile.
A typical champions league evening. Barcelona against Bayern Munich were shown downstairs in the bar of the wellness area.
Arrived around 5 pm and enjoyed the outdoor pool area with relaxing and sun bathing. Fantastic the combination between whirlpool, panorama glass sauna and heated pool. One big plus, the noice of the S-Bahn was missing. Why,? Because of the train drives strike. You have to get used to it. So, I was missing soemthing special. LOL, joking!
Left the club around 2 am with a big smile.
So now. You want to know what happened? HAHA, that is my secret. Next time come and see!
Cheers.
RM.
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[QUOTE=Bulbulon;1716493]Hi,
Somebody here knows the real name of Romina (blue eyes) from Artemis?[/QUOTE]Why would you want to know their real names?
I've heard a few real names, but it goes in one ear and out the other one normally.
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I understand kissing, I mean really kissing is not a standard service at Artemis like in Palace Frankfurt, am I right? So not a club for who look for GFE behaviour.
I prefer clubs like LR, Sharks or World where you can get real DFK even for 30 mn and only 50 € and even with natural without silicon really pretty girls.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1717679]I understand kissing, I mean really kissing is not a standard service at Artemis like in Palace Frankfurt, am I right? So not a club for who look for GFE behaviour.
I prefer clubs like LR, Sharks or World where you can get real DFK even for 30 min and only 50 and even with natural without silicon really pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Speaking about LR. I am going to Dusseldorf soon. Would you rather do LR two days in a row or DV one day and LR the other. Reading the forums LR seems to be the better club?
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1717748]Speaking about LR. I am going to Dusseldorf soon. Would you rather do LR two days in a row or DV one day and LR the other. Reading the forums LR seems to be the better club?[/QUOTE]For me LR rather than DV, for Claudia. Ro, Edita. Svk, at DV Alexandra ex Jaqueline Aca.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1717679]I understand kissing, I mean really kissing is not a standard service at Artemis like in Palace Frankfurt, am I right? So not a club for who look for GFE behaviour.
I prefer clubs like LR, Sharks or World where you can get real DFK even for 30 mn and only 50 and even with natural without silicon really pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Yes it's hard to get DFK in Artemis. The girl must like how looks and maybe personality to provide DFK and GFE.
It's a good club but I also prefer natural girls that provide GFE, besides I don't like the 60 E policy for convinience and cost.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1718077]Yes it's hard to get DFK in Artemis. The girl must like how looks and maybe personality to provide DFK and GFE.
It's a good club but I also prefer natural girls that provide GFE, besides I don't like the 60 E policy for convinience and cost.[/QUOTE]Or do girls ask for extra for kissing? Like some in GT or many Oase girls who say only if we stay 1 h.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1718077]Yes it's hard to get DFK in Artemis. The girl must like how looks and maybe personality to provide DFK and GFE.
[/QUOTE]That won't help. Additional Euros will.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1718147]That won't help. Additional Euros will.
HB.[/QUOTE]That is too easy, and as you know very well not the only correct answer.
I had a 2 out of 3 score of full optional 30 min./ 60e Sessions not too long ago in Artemis. But yes it was a tougher challenge compared to most German clubs.
It is not the extra euro policy that keeps the prices in Germany down to 50-60 euro since more than 10 years, and hopefully will for another 10.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1718102]Or do girls ask for extra for kissing? Like some in GT or many Oase girls who say only if we stay 1 h.[/QUOTE]Yes I meet one girl that said she would do DFK in her 1 h menu, but that put me off since I didn't want to commit. Don't thnik they are allowed to charged extra just for kissing by management.
Otherwise you need to specify that you want DFK cause many girls say yes to kissing and it turns out just to be kiss on lips for less than 1 min, LOL.
Lastly it helps being respectful and not fat dirty old, LOL (but I also depends if the girl).
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1718533]Yes I meet one girl that said she would do DFK in her 1 h menu, but that put me off since I didn't want to commit. Don't thnik they are allowed to charged extra just for kissing by management.
Otherwise you need to specify that you want DFK cause many girls say yes to kissing and it turns out just to be kiss on lips for less than 1 min, LOL.
Lastly it helps being respectful and not fat dirty old, LOL (but I also depends if the girl).[/QUOTE]Yes, girls that say they do DFK for extra euros or if you extend to one hour usually end up allowing just light kissing. The few girls that really provided DFK girlfriend style asked for no extra money and started to kiss on their own initiative without me even asking.
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Second visit at Artemis
This is my first report on ISG on my second visit to Artemis which is already 3 months old during a business trip. My first visit in 2013 was a memorable one but I will restrict my report on my second visit which was a kind of mixed experience. Took and S-bahn and reached the place. Paid at the reception, showered and went to the main area.
1. A German girl approached me and talked some lines in Hindi. Sensing that I am Indian. Felt her skin- it was soft and supple. Having a strong liking for soft skin, I wasted no time in taking her to the suite. As soon as went inside, she tried to upsell for extras. CIM, anal. I said that's not my favorite. From then on, she started to behave in a very mechanical way. Gave a mechanical BJ like a robot. Told her that's enough and started with mish. She started to give fake moans and asked me to do faster and finish. I felt she is just trying to hurry up and there's nothing to feel good being with her for another 20 minutes. I though of finishing and when asked her to turn over for doggy, she said " Don't expect the entire kamasutra in 60 Euros". I didn't like such comments and put on my robes again. Then she tried to reconcile and said "this is the last change". I finished off in another 5 minutes and left.
2. After relaxing for about 2 hours, met a tall Romanian girl Miss E near the pool. Chatted with her for sometime and went upstairs. Though her assets were somewhat on the smaller side, I liked her attitude and gave a nice GFE. She started with an amazing BJ and then started with WOT, doggy, mish. During the BJ, itself I extending the session to another 30 minutes. After the session she jokingly said she wished to have bigger boobs and bums. But she certainly made up for that with her friendly and eager-to-please attitude.
The lesson here for me is to chat well with the girl to get to know a little about her. Because like the first girl, some would want to take advantage of someone looking foreign.
Both the visits, there were some girls in the bar that wanted to tease me singing Bollywood songs and calling me by some Bollywood actors' names. It made me a little uncomfortable.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1718533]Yes I meet one girl that said she would do DFK in her 1 h menu, but that put me off since I didn't want to commit. Don't thnik they are allowed to charged extra just for kissing by management.
Otherwise you need to specify that you want DFK cause many girls say yes to kissing and it turns out just to be kiss on lips for less than 1 min, LOL.
Lastly it helps being respectful and not fat dirty old, LOL (but I also depends if the girl).[/QUOTE]So not a club for me looking for real GFE classy natural women and too far from Paris, the best would be to drive to Berlin, renting a 911 GT turbo.
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Learned a lot from these pages so I hope people are able to use this info.
Went to Artemis twice once on a Wednesday and once on Friday.
Arrived about 8 am to Berlin from US with no sleep on the plane so was majorly Jet lagged. Thought Artemis would be great. Sleep, have sex, sleep etc.
Worked out well as it was a nice day and I could sleep at the outside pool.
This was Wednesday and was lingerie night. I don't recommend it as the clothes still hide a lot.
I wasn't that impressed with the lineup considering what we read here. At first I thought it was because it was early and the late shift would be better but after my second trip that turned out to be false. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of girls you would want to have sex with but they aren't the caliber I expected from reading here. There are plenty of 8-9 bodies and a few 8 faces but I don't think I found any total packages.
Anyhow first was Shania with the long blonde hair small naturals. I forgot from where. I think Rom but not sure. Decent BJ but I really didn't like her. Body wasn't that good (nor bad) but lingerie hid that fact. After 10-15 minutes she said 5 minutes left. That was annoying. Wouldn't repeat. F7 B6.
Second was Sunny half Moroccan. Pretty gal with dark brown hair. Medium size and well done bolt ONS. Bad teeth. Good BJ didn't allow DATY. Nice girl. Nothing spectacular. Probably won't repeat but not bad. F7 B7. 5.
I slept a bit at the pool before and after. I felt a bit let down with the experience and was debating if I would do the planned return on Friday. Left around 6 pm.
Well Friday came around and I decided I should give it a try. Glad I did. This time I went there later around 5 and left at 12.
Dahlia or something like that. Romanian Cute girl with a great slim body / ass, small naturals, long red hair and glasses. Decent energy would do again. F7 B9.
Brianna says from Spain. I think someone here said she is really Romanian. Who knows, who cares. My experience with this very slim and cute girl are the same as others here. Good sex but a little to much on upselling. The only girl that actually tried upselling after we started. But I liked her and would probably do her again.
Finally Oksana from Bulgaria. Blonde with tight body, an ass a little flat but still nice. Medium size fake breasts that are to tight. She was the best of the trip for me. Good BJ. She actually worked when on top instead of barely moving like the other girls. DATY was fine. I don't see many reviews of her here but I would recommend her and do her again gladly. F6. 5 B8.
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Artemis, Thursday May 7th 2015
The S-Bahn operators were on strike. I could have walked the 2 km from my hotel to Artemis, but thought I should conserve my energy so I took a cab from Charlottenburg S-Bahn for 10 euros. Arrived at around 1 PM. There were only around 15 girls and about 3 guys. I was peeking in the kino when Rion (originally from Thailand but living in Berlin for past 11 years) offered to show me around. So we went to the downstairs kino. She was a sweet armful with incredibly smooth skin all over and nicely shaped natural boobs, not to mention a great ass (which I got to examine in detail later on). So we went into the curtained room next to the downstairs kino.
What followed was quite possibly my best experience at Artemis to-date. Rion is proactive in bed. What I mean is, she will do things to pleasure you without being asked, and wow she has ideas of her own about things a couple can do in bed. After a 1 hour session, I went downstairs to rest, then went to look for her again for another session. The second session was just as good as the first.
Left Artemis at 5 PM, as I needed to get dinner, and also quite frankly I was happy and satisfied with what I got for the day.
EF
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Amina
Chatted to her at Paradise Stuttgart today. In case anyone is missing her special brand of sharking, she seems to have moved there for good.
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Action at outdoor area?
I love sex and watching hot women in the sun. Are the girls allowed to "hunt" customers in the outdoorsarea? Or is it regarded the same way as the wellnessarea, were girls seldom or never go? Is sex allowed around the pool? I guess not into the pool.
Going to Berlin in 10 days, can't wait to use 12-15 hours at my favorite place. If any fellow forumers plan to be there on Wed 27th May I would like to chat and discuss experiences.
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Outdooraction is allowed. But nearly nobody do it. I did it last summer.
I think Amina will come back to Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1720913]Outdooraction is allowed. But nearly nobody do it. I did it last summer.
[/QUOTE]Thank you, Suppenhuhn.
Any others have experience from outdoorfun at Art, or maybe you have watched others?
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1721127]Thank you, Suppenhuhn.
Any others have experience from outdoorfun at Art, or maybe you have watched others?[/QUOTE]I've never seen an outdoor session at Artemis. Also, I don't remember too many girls outside (but I have never been in late July / August).
Different story in Frankfurt where there are outdoor beds in a few clubs. Sharks is great in the summer with girls constantly roaming around the garden. Highly recommended. I had a few sessions on an outdoor bed surrounded by hedges. You are almost swamped by girls outdoors at Oase, but it's not a favourite club of mine. I'm keen to try the garden at World this summer.
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Other FFK close to Berlin?
Does anyone know of a good FKK close to Berlin? Yes, Artimis is great, but I fancy a change.
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[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1721887]Does anyone know of a good FKK close to Berlin? ...[/QUOTE]There are no other good ones. There's a small, mediocre one (or rather a saunaclub, as the girls aren't completely naked), La Folie, in Belin (Charlottenburg).
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1721149]I've never seen an outdoor session at Artemis. Also, I don't remember too many girls outside ...[/QUOTE]No wonder, as some of the outdoor area is visible from passing trains.
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[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1721887]Does anyone know of a good FKK close to Berlin? Yes, Artimis is great, but I fancy a change.[/QUOTE]There is an announcement for an Opening of a FKK-Club in Potsdam (around 30 minutes from Berlin):
[URL]http://www.fkk-sauna-clubs.de/potsdam/fkk-grand-plaza/825_fkk-grand-plaza.html[/URL]
But in German forums there are speculations that this Club never will open and the ad might be only fake.
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[QUOTE=Karat;1722326]There is an announcement for an Opening of a FKK-Club in Potsdam (around 30 minutes from Berlin):
[URL]http://www.fkk-sauna-clubs.de/potsdam/fkk-grand-plaza/825_fkk-grand-plaza.html[/URL]
But in German forums there are speculations that this Club never will open and the add might be only fake.[/QUOTE]Artemis has probably connections to stop or delay this new club forever.
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Outdoor fun
[QUOTE=Masayama;1722144]No wonder, as some of the outdoor area is visible from passing trains.[/QUOTE]Outside is just not setup for that kind of fun, as there are no discrete places. And while you could do it near the wall, it just too open. However, I did notice that there were rooms outside?
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[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1722558]Outside is just not setup for that kind of fun, as there are no discrete places. And while you could do it near the wall, it just too open. However, I did notice that there were rooms outside?[/QUOTE]The outside rooms are more inside than the inside rooms. If you get my meaning. I don't recall them having windows.
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Messe this
I usually try to avoid the messe crowds but got an opportunity to visit Artemis later this week.
Does anyone know what (if any) crowds that can be expected at Artemis from this week's events at the Messe? Will it be unbearable or not?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=TonyDain;1722576]Does anyone know what (if any) crowds that can be expected at Artemis from this week's events at the Messe? Will it be unbearable or not?[/QUOTE]IMHO you don't have to expect an unbearable crowd later this week, but note: sometimes it's unpredictable. Maybe there's a little crowd during last weekend of May because of the soccer cup final in Berlin. Maybe.
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Ina and / or Melek present this week (end)?
Hi,
I'm thinking about taking the trip up to Artemis this weekend, but I'd very much prefer to see one or ideally both of these stars.
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Fatima still present?
Some months ago there were a lot of writing about Nina leaving Artemis. Lots of the guys mentioning her also wrote about Fatima. Is she still there? Haven't seen any reports mentioning her the last months.
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Fatima was in Artemis last weekend.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1723052]Some months ago there were a lot of writing about Nina leaving Artemis. Lots of the guys mentioning her also wrote about Fatima. Is she still there?[/QUOTE]Yes, she is.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1709604]I am soon going back to Artemis again and I am curious if you can ID a girl for me and provide some feedback. She's a blonde with straight cut bangs, very slim with small natural tits. Her face has kind of a special look. She's elegant but not baby face cute. She usually sits in the sofas in the narrow section behind the bar. Does not approach guys much. I think she could be Russian or from the basaltic. Any feedback appreciated.[/QUOTE]That sounds like Roberta (RO), did a long session with her a few months ago. Had great time, nice GFE and she's got a great sense of humor.
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1723113]That sounds like Roberta (RO), ...[/QUOTE]If you're talking about the Roberta (RO) that came to Artemis from another club some months ago, she doesn't fit Hermann666's description. Roberta might perhaps be called slim, but not VERY slim. Her tits are natural, but not small.
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[QUOTE=Masayama;1723178]If you're talking about the Roberta (RO) that came to Artemis from another club some months ago, she doesn't fit Hermann666's description. Roberta might perhaps be called slim, but not VERY slim. Her tits are natural, but not small.[/QUOTE]I think Frozty nailed it earlier in the thread when he suggested that the girl is Mila from Latvia.
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Ina / Melek present? Sorry for repeating
[QUOTE=PeterB;1723029]Hi,
I'm thinking about taking the trip up to Artemis this weekend, but I'd very much prefer to see one or ideally both of these stars.[/QUOTE]Hey all,
Sorry for repeating I would kust really like to know if they are there. If they are both there I think I will go but if they're not there then maybe not. Will write full review after!
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Two day report from this Sunday and Monday, but first one review from my last visit one month ago!
This girl really stood out Maira, Venezuela mid to late 20's she is a really beautiful girl with light brown skin, medium sized enhanced tits this girl is very passionate and truly enjoys sex so much that I actually had three different sessions with her that same day!
Sunday evening my first session of the night.
Kimberly, Bahamas, mid 20's.
She has a very tight body with nice natural tits, she does light kissing with some tongue loves DATY and it's not easy to last long in doggy with her perfect ass. Recommended!
I also had sessions with Samantha BUL, Axena BUL these two girls always perform a very passionate GFE with me.
Fourth session, 30 years? Can't remember her name!
Found a turkish girl beautiful face with long black hair a fitness body and perfectly enhanced tits unfortunately she don't kiss and don't enjoys DATY but in her defense she gave me one of the best blow jobs I've ever had at Artemis and fucking her perfect body is enough to recommend her.
Monday early afternoon first session.
Zina? Germany / Marocco Mid 20's.
Beautiful girl looks a little bit exotic with light brown skin beautiful face, great tits she doesn't kiss unfortunately! She had a huge orgasm during DATY after this she was so wet and I was already erected so she skipped BJ and went right to fucking after this I fucked her for over half an hour without ending, for me it's extremely hard to come if I not have a long blow job before sex, especially when you have had so much sex in limited time. Repeat, Maybe.
Second session, Valentina, Colombia early 30's?
Very charming girl, I would say she has a very sparkling personality, enhanced tits very much GFE and absolutely loved DATY had a great hour with her. Recommended.
Third session Jackie, Dom Republic?
Black girl with a good looking face, ok body nicely enhanced tits. This girl absolutely loves sex she had three huge orgasms during DATY and 69 she rewarded my efforts with giving me a magnificent and the most memorably fuck of this trip, if it wasn't forced to go to the airport I would have fucked her for hours.
Next up Costa del sol.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1723052]Some months ago there were a lot of writing about Nina leaving Artemis. Lots of the guys mentioning her also wrote about Fatima. Is she still there? Haven't seen any reports mentioning her the last months.[/QUOTE]She was there in Feb 2015.
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Hello guys,
I plan to go to Artemis May 29 and stay for one night. The next day (May 30) I will take plane from Schönefeld Airport at 8:40 am.
My question:
1. I have read the website that the closing time is 5:00 am. Could I stay in Artemis until 5:00 am? To save money, I have not booked accommodation that evening.
2. When I go out at 5:00 am, are there any taxi waiting outside? How much is the price from FKK Artemis to Schönefeld Airport (SXF)?
3. To save money, is it OK to take the train to SXF at that time? Is it safe around at that time?
Thanks very much.
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[QUOTE=XiaoApple;1724887]Hello guys,
I plan to go to Artemis May 29 and stay for one night. The next day (May 30) I will take plane from Schnefeld Airport at 8:40 am.
My question:
1. I have read the website that the closing time is 5:00 am. Could I stay in Artemis until 5:00 am? To save money, I have not booked accommodation that evening.
2. When I go out at 5:00 am, are there any taxi waiting outside? How much is the price from FKK Artemis to Schnefeld Airport (SXF)?
3. To save money, is it OK to take the train to SXF at that time? Is it safe around at that time?
Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can stay until they close at 5:00 am. There's usually a line of taxis waiting outside. Otherwise just ask reception to call a taxi for you. Reception will also store your bags if you bring luggage.
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S Bahns, S Babes, S Balls
[QUOTE=XiaoApple;1724887]I plan to go to Artemis May 29 and stay for one night. May 30 I will take plane from Schonefeld Airport at 8:40 am.[/QUOTE]No problem staying in A til 05:00 or around then (you can find quiet places to sleep), no problem with the S-Bahns which leave every 10 minutes from Westkreuz. S-Bahns fine in the early am, just use common sense and find a car with other people. The front desk can help you get a taxi if needed but you will save 35-45 EUR with the S-Bahn.
You have plenty of time given your flight. There have been some strikes recently but it looks like finally this mess is on the way to being solved so you should be fine. [URL]bvg.de[/URL] is the great Berlin transit planner and you can check options (there is an english page). Depending upon when you go the route can slightly vary so just check it that day. It takes about an hour plus the 5 min walk to Westkreuz and the 10 min walk to the terminals..You can mess around with arrival times in Tegel, but you need to be in SXF at least an hour before a flight with their often slow security queues and labryinthine passageways..
Girl sightings: Bearsk, always the man "screwpulous" with data, is correct. Napoleon was also here in October, 1806. But Fatima is around also now (as in last night). Ina is also but does not work every night (tends to only 1 of 2 weekend nights). Malik- unfortunately not seen for many, many weeks.
As always, if seeing a particular girl is critical, telephone the front desk and make a booking. Sometimes they know during the day, sometimes not before 20:00. You can always ring and ask at least if X is around this week, etc. Our sightings are really no guide to the future.
Other notes: bizarre lighting changes last night in both kinos - where now it is strangely bright inside. Hope this is a one-off as it feels like a football stadium. This coupled with the usual dreadful weekend music seems designed to keep the erotic feel well in check..RB wishes the DJ could offer his services to the Guantanamo prison, where this so-called "musik" would quickly lead to confessions (even by the guards) and then they could close it down.
And, on a related point, heads up to all: The UEFA Championship Final is 6 June, a whopping 2 S-Bahn stops from the doors of Artemis. You can imagine what the scene will be like after the game. However, as they will likely staff up, the variety of choices could be good earlier (and even during the game, as many menfolk will be downstairs leaving the girls free. And we all know Barce will mop the floor with Juv so after 60-75 min you could head upstairs.) But mongers who value their sanity want to be well clear of there within 15 min of the end of the game. If sanity not an issue, you can stick around for the Testosterone Tsunami..
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1724943]Yes, you can stay until they close at 5:00 am. There's usually a line of taxis waiting outside. Otherwise just ask reception to call a taxi for you. Reception will also store your bags if you bring luggage.[/QUOTE]Thanks, useful.
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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1725064]No problem staying in A til 05:00 or around then (you can find quiet places to sleep), no problem with the S-Bahns which leave every 10 minutes from Westkreuz. S-Bahns fine in the early am, just use common sense and find a car with other people. The front desk can help you get a taxi if needed but you will save 35-45 EUR with the S-Bahn.
You have plenty of time given your flight. There have been some strikes recently but it looks like finally this mess is on the way to being solved so you should be fine. [URL]bvg.de[/URL] is the great Berlin transit planner and you can check options (there is an english page). Depending upon when you go the route can slightly vary so just check it that day. It takes about an hour plus the 5 min walk to Westkreuz and the 10 min walk to the terminals..You can mess around with arrival times in Tegel, but you need to be in SXF at least an hour before a flight with their often slow security queues and labyrinthine passageways..
Girl sightings: Bearsk, always the man "screwpulous" with data, is correct. Napoleon was also here in October, 1806. But Fatima is around also now (as in last night). Ina is also but does not work every night (tends to only 1 of 2 weekend nights). Malik- unfortunately not seen for many, many weeks.
As always, if seeing a particular girl is critical, telephone the front desk and make a booking. Sometimes they know during the day, sometimes not before 20:00. You can always ring and ask at least if X is around this week, etc. Our sightings are really no guide to the future.
Other notes: bizarre lighting changes last night in both kinos - where now it is strangely bright inside. Hope this is a one-off as it feels like a football stadium. This coupled with the usual dreadful weekend music seems designed to keep the erotic feel well in check..RB wishes the DJ could offer his services to the Guantanamo prison, where this so-called "musik" would quickly lead to confessions (even by the guards) and then they could close it down.
And, on a related point, heads up to all: The UEFA Championship Final is 6 June, a whopping 2 S-Bahn stops from the doors of Artemis. You can imagine what the scene will be like after the game. However, as they will likely staff up, the variety of choices could be good earlier (and even during the game, as many menfolk will be downstairs leaving the girls free. And we all know Barce will mop the floor with Juv so after 60-75 min you could head upstairs.) But mongers who value their sanity want to be well clear of there within 15 min of the end of the game. If sanity not an issue, you can stick around for the Testosterone Tsunami...[/QUOTE]Dude, thank you for your warm-hearted answer.
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Artemis Day 1
Hello intrepid readers. Cartman here. You may know me from my Brazil reporting (click my name, see my posts). Recently arrived in Berlin after a couple days in Zurich duly written up on the zurich forums.
Headed out to Artemis around 4 pm. Took a you-bahn to an S-bahn, and it was about a 5-10 min walk from the train station. From the outside Artemis looks like a Red Roof Inn or other mid-range motel chain. Inside it's actually a very nice facility. There is a smoky main bar area where all the girls hang out, on the entry floor. If you take the stairs down, there is a "Kino" sex theatre, a big pool area (indoor), and a massage area and other bar. The pool has some steam rooms / saunas around it. You can head outside past the dining area (which is on the main floor right after the main smoky bar) and there is a HUGE outdoor area (paved) that on one side leads to some very nice rooms (apparently built about 1. 5 years ago) and on the other side down to a large outside pool, hot tub, and an outbuilding area with a really nice sauna and steam room and showers.
Entrance was 80 Euro. Comes with free soft drinks and food. Regular 30 min sessions are 60 Euro, and the menu goes up from there -- 100 for anal, 50 for prostate massage, etc.
Not that many girls working when we showed up around 5 pm, but more came in starting around 7 pm and even up until midnight when we were leaving. Lots of slim Romanian types, some hungarians, a few outliers from Africa, Bahamas, etc.
The problem with this type of set-up is (a) the sharky girls who immediately stop you and ask you to fuck them / go to the room; and (b) simply not knowing who is any good. I waited a while before making my first choice, a tall, slim Romanian girl named "Silvia" with a long dark pony tail. She said she could do deep-throat but really couldn't. No kissing, which is a HUGE bummer. She was an OK performer and for 60 Euros I'm not complaining too much, but it was a far cry from a passionate experience at a Brazilian Termas.
Second up was an African (Namibian) named "Gina" . She was more fun, hung out with me for a while on a couch, and then in the room did a great deep-throat BBBJ with some light kissing and more passion (even if fake). Well worth it. I wanted to repeat with her, but when I finally saw her again around 11 pm she said she was going to eat and go home.
Thirdly I had a fun initial conversation with a Hungarian named Alicia. She told me that she had been working there for 4 years, on and off. But she seemed to have a good attitude. So later when Gina was gone, I though I'd take her for a spin. I'd just showered, but she was ruthlessly clinical. She sprayed some alcohol spray on the Little Admiral and wiped him off with baby wipes, and then she made me put alcohol gel on my hands. Then when she got down to businses she was very clear about no kissing, no touching her face, no fingers in her kitty, etc. While she was blowing me (thankfully BBBJ) she kept stopping every 10 seconds to spit whatever was in her mouth into a wad of paper towels, kind of a boner killer. But having said all that, her technique was solid, especially the prostate massage, and got the job done. It was like going to a car wash.
I really miss the Brazil vibe where you sit with the girl and quickly can start kissing, deep, feeling her body, and creating a passionate vibe before the room. Still, all in damage was 230 euro for 3 sessions plus the 80 entry -- and I did eat food and enjoy the steam room / saunas.
Just wish I could figure out a better way to idenify the more passionate, more fun girls. Fending off the sharks gets old. Here for a few more days, so open to recommedations. My wingman nailed a Moldivian named Kimberly and said she was FANTASTIC, albeit still below Brazil standards.
By the way it seem cigar smoking is allowed in the inside bar, not just only the outside areas.
TL;DR version: great instalaltions, reasonable food, more girls after 19:00hrs, need tips on how to identify the girls with more passion, who can deepthroat, who DFK/kiss, who get off .... made difficult by too many Romanian sharks. Otherwise it ends up being oddly clinical.
-Cartman out.
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[QUOTE=EricCartman;1726287]Hello intrepid readers. Cartman here. You may know me from my Brazil reporting (click my name, see my posts). Recently arrived in Berlin after a couple days in Zurich duly written up on the zurich forums.
Headed out to Artemis around 4 pm. Took a you-bahn to an S-bahn, and it was about a 5-10 min walk from the train station. From the outside Artemis looks like a Red Roof Inn or other mid-range motel chain. Inside it's actually a very nice facility. There is a smoky main bar area where all the girls hang out, on the entry floor. If you take the stairs down, there is a "Kino" sex theatre, a big pool area (indoor), and a massage area and other bar. The pool has some steam rooms / saunas around it. You can head outside past the dining area (which is on the main floor right after the main smoky bar) and there is a HUGE outdoor area (paved) that on one side leads to some very nice rooms (apparently built about 1. 5 years ago) and on the other side down to a large outside pool, hot tub, and an outbuilding area with a really nice sauna and steam room and showers.
Entrance was 80 Euro. Comes with free soft drinks and food. Regular 30 min sessions are 60 Euro, and the menu goes up from there -- 100 for anal, 50 for prostate massage, etc.
Not that many girls working when we showed up around 5 pm, but more came in starting around 7 pm and even up until midnight when we were leaving. Lots of slim Romanian types, some hungarians, a few outliers from Africa, Bahamas, etc..[/QUOTE]Brianna from Spain does kissing with lots of energy. She's short and super tiny with black hair and blue lenses over the brown eyes.
Also Cheyenne, German super thin girl with silicone and a tattoo over her whole back, is really hot, but no kissing. She's more of the PSE type. Looks a bit like Anne Hathaway.
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What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?
Do they get free entry or free entry when they come with a man or have they always got to pay that 80?
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1726388]Brianna from Spain does kissing with lots of energy. She's short and super tiny with black hair and blue lenses over the brown eyes.
Also Cheyenne, German super thin girl with silicone and a tattoo over her whole back, is really hot, but no kissing. She's more of the PSE type. Looks a bit like Anne Hathaway.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I misjudged Brianna bc I was put off due to her approach. Maybe I should try her next time or perhaps she likes you.
Cheyenne? Black curly hair wearing glasses?
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[QUOTE=Guy93;1726484]What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?
Do they get free entry or free entry when they come with a man or have they always got to pay that 80?[/QUOTE]Female guests are banned unless she wants to work in Artemis. In this way she needs to book time for interview. But only entry is not allowed for women guests.
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[QUOTE=Guy93;1726484]What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?[/QUOTE]No admittance for female guests.
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[QUOTE=Guy93;1726484]What is Artemis policy when it comes to female guests? Are they even allowed to entry the club?
Do they get free entry or free entry when they come with a man or have they always got to pay that 80?[/QUOTE]As far as I know not. In Artemis there are no couples, men and girl, even so lonely women or lesbian couples allowed. I only know that a couple, men and girl can enter Oase. The girl does not have to pay entry fee. One other club now is the Oceans in Düsseldorf. There are couples, men and girl, as so women alone and lesbian couple allowed. They have free entrance all the time.
I really saw some joining the club with bathrobes. Interesting aspect. One time I came from the sauna, I disturbed accidentally a couple in the shower area. The women started to blow her (a) man.
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Thank you for your answers gentlemen.
I tried to search info at Artemis homepage before, but they didn't mention anything about female guests.
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[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1726548] I only know that a couple, men and girl can enter Oase. The girl does not have to pay entry fee. [/QUOTE]I think you got this one absolutely wrong: Everybody pays entry fee to get into Oase. Even Mauro's mother has to pay to get in!
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1726492]Perhaps I misjudged Brianna bc I was put off due to her approach. Maybe I should try her next time or perhaps she likes you.
Cheyenne? Black curly hair wearing glasses?[/QUOTE]Brianna can be a bit pushy but I have read other positive reviews of her and we had great fun in the room with lots of kissing.
Cheynne is the best PSE style girl I've tried in Artemis. No glasses what I recall, silicones that look a bit oversized on her petite frame. She is really skinny and her whole back is covered with a tatoo with a couple of faces if I recall correctly. Her hair is sometimes put up in a knot. I did a lot of positions with her, she did deepthroat, CIM and anal with great enthusiasm. I like to do anal in mish with eye contact and she was great at that. In doggy she was very active and pushed herself onto my dick. I've had a couple of different sessions with her and would repeat every time.
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I've never heard of a FKK club where the female part of a couple doesn't have to pay entry. That may be true for Party- or Swingerclubs.
HB.
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So who are the salaried employees who don't pay entrance fee? Hopefully Mauro does nt charge himself, LOL. The bartenders, cooks, bouncers, cleaning people etc? What about the masseuse, wonder if s / he has to pay, since they freelance and get paid similar to the hookers?
[QUOTE=Ortos;1726568]I think you got this one absolutely wrong: Everybody pays entry fee to get into Oase. Even Mauro's mother has to pay to get in![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1726595]I've never heard of a FKK club where the female part of a couple doesn't have to pay entry.
HB.[/QUOTE]This corresponds to my experience. Oase was certainly quite happy to take my money for two entry fees every time I showed up there with a female guest. If someone knows better, than please tell me because I will certainly be bringing other girls there in the future.
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Artemis Day 2
Returned about 8 pm to Artemis on a Weds night. As others have noted, Wednesday is "not naked" day at Artemis so the girls were wearing bikinis, bra / panties, or even tight dresses. Not sure why they feel the need to do this 1 x / week, as naked makes it harder to hide things.
Waited about 20 minutes and was rewarded with Gina (black girl from Namibia) returning to the main lounge. Grabbed her for what ended up being 1. 5 hrs in the room. I like the rooms out by the outside pool. You can just ask and the girls go out there no problem. Gina was fun and friendly. I think we started around 20:45 and we ended at 10:25, but she had lost track of time a bit and only charged me for 1. 5 hrs. All in 160 Euro.
Had a steam and a dry sauna in the newer outside area, then a bite at the buffet. Reasonably decent food, actually. Back to the main lounge and it was *really* hard to try to find a next target. There are a lot of blondes walking around, in addition to the regular dark-haired romanians, but it's really hard to tell who is any good just by watching. Also some were so "fierce" in their bottle blonde look and fake boobs that I have to think they would be terrible in the room. A lot of the girls just have terrible non-friendly body language. There were a couple of blondes who I liked physically but I was afraid the session would be sharky and terrible.
Ended up going with Lorraine from Hungary. She has great muscular legs (was wearing boots) from apparently having played handball before her working girl career. Reasonably nice personality, some light kissing, good eye contact. All in all a reasonable service. 110 Euro including the basic 30 minutes and some extra. Did not clock-watch esp after I agreed to the extra.
I still find it much more difficult to make a connection with the girls than with garotas in Brazil. But hey when in Germany.
Any other suggestions on how to sort out the better performers from the weak ones, especially when you don't know their names, gratefully appreciated.
-Cartman
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Dessous tag
Cheers guys!
I have an option go to Artemis either on Wednesday or Friday.
Just need an opinion from regulars is Dessous Tag worth it to go, because last time when I was there to see totally naked ladies was a big bonus. What is your impression or recommendation.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=EricCartman;1726863]Returned about 8 pm to Artemis on a Weds night. As others have noted, Wednesday is "not naked" day at Artemis so the girls were wearing bikinis, bra / panties, or even tight dresses. Not sure why they feel the need to do this 1 x / week, as naked makes it harder to hide things.
Waited about 20 minutes and was rewarded with Gina (black girl from Namibia) returning to the main lounge. Grabbed her for what ended up being 1. 5 hrs in the room. I like the rooms out by the outside pool. You can just ask and the girls go out there no problem. Gina was fun and friendly. I think we started around 20:45 and we ended at 10:25, but she had lost track of time a bit and only charged me for 1. 5 hrs. All in 160 Euro.
Had a steam and a dry sauna in the newer outside area, then a bite at the buffet. Reasonably decent food, actually. Back to the main lounge and it was *really* hard to try to find a next target. There are a lot of blondes walking around, in addition to the regular dark-haired romanians, but it's really hard to tell who is any good just by watching. Also some were so "fierce" in their bottle blonde look and fake boobs that I have to think they would be terrible in the room. A lot of the girls just have terrible non-friendly body language. There were a couple of blondes who I liked physically but I was afraid the session would be sharky and terrible.[/QUOTE]I am no veteran by any means but after having made three visits to Livingroom in NRW recently and being able to compare to a number of visits done to Artemis this spring, the difference in the level of GFE service and DFK is huge in favor of Livingroom.
Artemis is great for optics and has a lot of beautiful girls but not very many that does good GFE and DFK. I tend to go for the non sharky girls at Artemis. The good girls seems to sit and wait for customers. I am also avoiding girls sitting in a group together seeming not being interested in the men at all. Good luck with the hunting!
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Spotting the performers
[QUOTE=EricCartman;1726863]Back to the main lounge and it was *really* hard to try to find a next target. There are a lot of blondes walking around, in addition to the regular dark-haired romanians, but it's really hard to tell who is any good just by watching. Also some were so "fierce" in their bottle blonde look and fake boobs that I have to think they would be terrible in the room. A lot of the girls just have terrible non-friendly body language. There were a couple of blondes who I liked physically but I was afraid the session would be sharky and terrible.I still find it much more difficult to make a connection with the girls than with garotas in Brazil. But hey when in Germany.
Any other suggestions on how to sort out the better performers from the weak ones, especially when you don't know their names, gratefully appreciated.
Cartman[/QUOTE]This is an interesting question and one which I do wonder if the more frequent mongers have an answer to. But I rather doubt it and I read the german FKK forums quite a lot. Part of your problem was the venue. I actually like Artemis as a Club, and I love Berlin as a city but I'm afraid the service levels there, or rather the attitude of the girls before the room, can be very difficult. There is a good reason for this: a complete lack of competition from any other FKK club in Berlin. I have tried the FKK clubs in Hessen and NRW and I think the girls are far more friendly, want to tell you more about what is on offer instead of the immediate "take me to the room" attitude in Artemis. This is because in Dusseldorf / Cologne and Frankfurt there is a choice of clubs for men to frequent. So if they want your business they need to try a little harder for it. In Artemis they have a captive audience and they know it. This is tarring too many girls with one brush. Some are lovely. Like the lovely Gina you sessioned with. I've not roomed with her as she isn't my type to look at but I've spent time talking to her and she is a really nice girl. Others at Artemis are not so friendly. A plump blonde there in February was horribly rude to me when I rejected her for a 3 time (get the message please). I stupidly said "maybe later" to get her to leave me alone. What a foolish error. When I later said no again she started shouting. Very loudly "liar, liar liar". A lot of girls were looking at me wondering what I'd said or done and I wondered if I'd get another session from anyone. Happily some of them know her too well and it was ok. But a good example of the attitude.
I had a 30 min session with another girl (romanian) on that occasion. I told her twice I wasn't interested in CIM or anal extras. When I asked her if she wanted to extend to an hour she told me this was ok only if I did the extras! End of session! I'm back in Artemis in a few weeks. Hoping the attitude improves, but I doubt it. It will only change when the long promised new FKK club ever opens and there is competition.
However this still doesn't really answer your question about spotting the good performers. The only tip I could pass on. Which I got from one of these forums and has worked very well for me. Is to position yourself somewhere outside of the rooms / stairs so you can see the chemistry / reaction of guys coming out of the rooms. If they are coming out looking so-so, neither pleased nor disappointed, I tend to think the session was mechanical and the girl might not be great. If a guy comes out all smiles and they are having banter. I look more carefully at the girl to see if she too is in good spirits and that is a sign that maybe it was good for both and she is worth trying. All that said. There is a phrase on here YMMV. Your mileage may vary. It's true. One man's poison is another man's petal. Also, with the euro in the dire state it is, 50 or 60 (in artemis) for 30 minutes or double for an hour is not actually much of a risk. If I very much fancy the girl I'm going to go there to find out! Final tip of course is simply to ask a guy you've seen previously be with a girl. Nobody is offended if you ask for some general feedback without detail on a girl's level of service. I've done that plenty of times. Indeed I'll speak to a few guys in any club, find out who is a regular and ask for some tips. They've often come in very valuable. Some guys post long lists but unless there is a very detailed description it is useless unless you print it off. And if you walk around a club with a list in your robe, spot a girl on it, walk up with list in hand and say: "ah. Blonde, big tits, nice ass, curly hair, bad tattoo on left leg, tight pussy. Hi - you must be Mary?" it doesn't tend to start a session of well and you look a complete nerd! The forums are great when two or three guys comment that they have all sessioned with a girl recently and she was great or awful. It's worth remembering those names. I did that in my trip earlier this year when Danny posted about a girl he thought was poor. When she approached me I thought he must be mad as she was very pretty. So I ignored his advice and it was. More than poor! Lesson learned. I've had the opposite though. Gone with someone who might not normally have got my attention but got rave reviews here so gave her a go and ended up very pleased I did so.
If some of the more regular guys at Artemis can add any tips to picking out the great performers it would benefit us all.
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[QUOTE=LexxyDock;1726892]Cheers guys!
I have an option go to Artemis either on Wednesday or Friday.
Just need an opinion from regulars is Dessous Tag worth it to go, because last time when I was there to see totally naked ladies was a big bonus. What is your impression or recommendation.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Friday. The lineup will be significantly better. The only downside is that there will also be more men. I was disappointed with dessous tag; the proportion of 'heavy' girls seemed much higher. One caveat is that my last dessous visit was probably 12 months ago.
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If some of the more regular guys at Artemis can add any tips to picking out the great performers it would benefit us all.[/QUOTE]I'm not really one for chatting with other punters about the girls, although I can see the merits. The only thing that has worked for me is experience and attitude. I have learnt how to make it look like I know the scene. Fewer girls try and take advantage. It probably helps that more and more girls start to recognise me. Most girls are capable of good service if you build some sort of chemistry and accept their limitations (eg those who don't kiss).
This doesn't require that you know the club. It helps if you know FKK, but confident bluffing does the job.
I get better service levels at one or two other clubs (particularly since the retirement of my FKK wife!) but I would still make Artemis my favourite club.
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Artemis Day 3
Thanks Frosty, Herman, and Payforit -- good advice.
Hit up Artemis tonight after an amusing side-stop at [URL]http://www.erlebniswohnung.com/[/URL] which previously had been described on the Berlin board (or this board) as being the bets flat-rate "gang bang" club in Germany for covered activities. Having never seen such a thing, I and my wingman went to take a look. Let's just say the ratio of 14 guys to 1 girl in a darkened room wasn't to my taste. The guys sure seemed to like it though. At a shift change, one large Chinese-looking gentleman dove right into the new girl's nether parts with his tongue while 3-4 other dudes prodded her in various places. Guess he wanted her fresh LOL. I now know I don't at all find the concept of a "gang bang" club erotic, yay me.
Arrived Artemis around 9 pm. My wingman's girl Cristina was there but he was eager to try other horizons. Gina not in sight. Wingman grabbed a slim brunette who turned out to be Brianna from Spain (Valencia) who previously had received good marks on this board. He said the service was so-so, beyond her kissing.
I decided to bite the bullet and see a plastic'ed-up blonde I'd noticed the night before. Her name is Brigita from Hungary. She's 31 but doesn't look it. Appears to have had some sort of plastic surgery on her face, perhaps nose and lips, and has nice big bolt-on tits. She has a huge tramp stamp tattoo, a full sleeve tattoo on one arm, and a big skull tattoo on her stomach. Trashy blonde, short blonde hair. Sparkly pink lipstick. She reminds me of a blonde Mason Moore (former porn star). She said she kissed, and would do deep throat. The reality was about 50% of that -- in terms of very light peck on lip kisses and medium-throat LOL. But boy she looked good doing it. I had to finish myself off the first time, as she didn't seem that into it and it affected the Little Admiral. Later, after trying unsucessfully to find another partner, I returned to her for Round 2 and it was better. Still not great, but better. She complained about being tired in Cowgirl, but when I told her it would make me come, she dutifully soldiered on.
My biggest fear when I was looking for a 2nd partner was getting "sharked" -- so many of the girls look like they just want the 60 euros and to be done with you in 10 minutes. And as discussed below, it's really hard to tell who isn't like that. I had to turn down a bunch of girls too. I finally just started talking in Portuguese to the ones that I didn't like, when they approached me. That messes with them LOL. It's not Spanish, people!
Anyway, some good advice below. Thankfully we are heading to the area near Living Room and Samya for a few days -- so I will have that point of comparison as well and take it to the appropriate boards.
In closing I agree with the comments below that Artemis really doesn't have, in general, GFE levels of service. For a Brazilian, this is a big deal. It's not a bad club -- in fact the facilities are pretty darn nice -- and there can be some gems (like Gina, Cristina), but for a quick visit, it's tough to find the right chicks. (My wingman ended up lucking out with some Jordanian girl, lucky bastard).
Thanks for the tips. Off to Living Room / Samya for more from the front lines.
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Current pics of the girls?
Hi,
I'll be at Artemis in late June. Everyone is posting great advice and reports. There are a lot of names that are not in the girl's gallery on the Artemis website. Is there a different place that has an updated pic gallery?
Thanks
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Hehe, how to make a good excuse while not making the girl angry at you?
Well, you can allways just act very macho. Artemis girls in general seems to like that. Especially the romanians with a few exceptions.
Instead of saying 'maybe later', you can try 'I am sorry, but my cock got milked just 20 minutes ago, and I never take viagra, so you have to book me for later. But when I'm ready again I will be like a horny bull rushing to the nearest vagina. So no promises. I am sure you understand. But I call it male instinct"' And then smile at her.
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The horny bull rushing to the nearest vagina.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1727203]Hehe, how to make a good excuse while not making the girl angry at you?
Well, you can allways just act very macho. Artemis girls in general seems to like that. Especially the romanians with a few exceptions.
Instead of saying 'maybe later', you can try 'I am sorry, but my cock got milked just 20 minutes ago, and I never take viagra, so you have to book me for later. But when I'm ready again I will be like a horny bull rushing to the nearest vagina. So no promises. I am sure you understand. But I call it male instinct"' And then smile at her.[/QUOTE]Not something I think I could say even after many beers. But I totally LOVED the horny bull rushing to the nearest vagina. Not least as when she tells all her friends, you'd be the centre of attention surrounded by 50 girls all asking if the horn is ready yet? Actually upon reflection. The description. Horny bull rushing to nearest vagina should now be converted to HBRTNV in the abbreviations section of ISG for a shortcut to describe to FKK virgins the feeling you get when you first go into an FKK and are surrounded by so many naked lovelies!
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1727203]Hehe, how to make a good excuse while not making the girl angry at you?
.[/QUOTE]This was actually done in a club and was very effective. The man stood in the middle of the main room, raised his wallet about his head and proclaimed as he opened the wallet up: I am done for the night and all my money is gone.
That should keep the ladies away.
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Hello
Friends, please tell me girls to choose and avoid at Artemis. Any favorites that I must go for.
Information will be highly appreciated.
Have fun and cheers.
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Today big DFB finale
Today must be very crowded in Artemis. The DFB finale in Berlin Stadium is starting in a couple of hours. Nearly the same situation will be a few weeks ahead when the champions leagues finale is. Barcelona against Turin. What means many Italian men as so Spanish men are taking a break on their way to Olympiastadium in Artemis. Only 2 stops with the S Bahn from Westkreuz to Olympiastadium.
I will travel next week to Berlin. So no problem for me with the turbulence of today's Saturday and in a few weeks. Does anyone have seen Anetta around? Would be helpful to get that information. If so, please say Hello to her from Nobbes coming soon.
So far from NRW and will be in Oceans tonight.
Cheers.
RM.
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[QUOTE=RempNobbes;1727782]I will travel next week to Berlin. So no problem for me with the turbulence of today's Saturday and in a few weeks. Does anyone have seen Anetta around? Would be helpful to get that information. If so, please say Hello to her from Nobbes coming soon.[/QUOTE]Annetta is just around. Note: European Soccer Finals will take place next Saturday.
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[QUOTE=SuperLove;1727585]Friends, please tell me girls to choose and avoid at Artemis. Any favorites that I must go for.
Information will be highly appreciated.
Have fun and cheers.[/QUOTE]Go for the Romanian ones who look the prettiest to you. Have a nice chat with them. Then, go to the room with them if you are getting a good vibe from them during the chat. Some will be great. Some will be not so great. Spend more time with the great ones and less time with the not so great ones.
-- Recipe for FKK success.
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Artemis FR
Monday early afternoon. Was unsure as to whether there would really be any girls there at that time? Checked this forum and past reports suggested no need to worry. Forum was correct: at least 25 girls of all styles, and probably fewer than 15 guys, making for a very relaxed vibe. A warm day, so enjoyed the pool for a bit to unwind and then scoped the scene. A few aggressive girls approached, but not exactly what I wanted. Given the variety, you can really be exact about what you want. So, a quick "not right now thanks" and they will leave you be, which was nice actually. No one was too pushy. Then walking through the lounge, Seela (spelling?) caught my eye. Wow. Asked her to sit for a chat. Loved her personality. Incredibly sexy, petite brunette with a tight Kota Skye type body. Says she is German but who knows. Went up for a half hour for excellent DATY, OWO, mish, and DS. Could barely last. More of PSE experience. No kissing, but not a thing to me. Had a smoke and friendly chat afterward. She told me she was 32, but I couldn't believe it, she looks like 20, incredibly fit and smooth. When we went down, introduced me to her "crazy" friend Julia, Polish, pretty, though not at the same level as Seela, but quite fun and wild. I was drained but seemed like it would be fun to go up for a massage / body rub, so did 30 minutes of that. She laughed at how no one would believe all she did was body rub, because she says she's a pretty wild girl. But it was a perfect way to wind down for me. Nice Monday afternoon, I'd say.
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[QUOTE=Audio24;1728242]Seela (spelling?) caught my eye. Wow. Asked her to sit for a chat. Loved her personality. Incredibly sexy, petite brunette with a tight Kota Skye type body. Says she is German but who knows.[/QUOTE]Kota Skye / Dakota Sky? Description fits Sila. IMHO she's Turkish, maybe born, but raised for sure in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1509882]Great great body, but terrible sex. MUST be avoided.[/QUOTE]Wow! Its amazing how different experiences can be with the same girl. Nele gave me one of the best sex experiences I've ever had in an FKK! I had to extend to 1.5 hours it was so good! I guess it all depends on chemistry and whether the girl likes you or not. I agree she has a great curvy body.
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Wed 27th May
A little late report, sorry for that.
Entered Artemis at about 16:00, lots of girls and not so many men, very nice atmosphere. Too cold to enjoy the outdoorarea, I was a little disappointed by that. Some of my favorites were missing, really missed Zoe, the ultrafit girl with purple long hair. Had my first session with Micky from Moldovia. A 33 yo with exactly my kind of girl look. Very nice in the room, I would give her an 8/10. Needed a massage in the wellnessarea afterwards, I really enjoyed and would suggest you try that. Lots of sauna and realxing while looking at sexy girls, I had a nice time. Last on my room-list was Solida, who I have met earlier. Surprisingly she recognized me, and we had a nice chat and a very nice time in the room. She gives excellent service, hope she will be there next time. Don't know what country she comes from, she has claimed Greece, Spain, Italy and now las time Moldovia. Probably Moldovia is true. ?
All in all a very nice time in this Disneyland for adults, I plan to be back in the early fall.
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[QUOTE=Nr71;1729284]...she has claimed Greece, Spain, Italy and now las time Moldovia. Probably Moldovia is true?[/QUOTE]In all likelihood Romanian, for some reason they like to claim being anything but that.
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[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;1729304]In all likelihood Romanian, for some reason they like to claim being anything but that.[/QUOTE]She told me she was from Romania. And in line with your experience, I think when they tell you they are from Romania, then it is true! .
BTW, I agree in that Solida is a very good companion, providing a good serice, although a bit "crazy" and talks a lot. (but there is a good way to stop that talking.).
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Solida
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;1729579]She told me she was from Romania. And in line with your experience, I think when they tell you they are from Romania, then it is true! .
BTW, I agree in that Solida is a very good companion, providing a good serice, although a bit "crazy" and talks a lot. (but there is a good way to stop that talking.).[/QUOTE]I agree Blue Swede. Solida is a good companion. A cock in her mouth should do the trick. I remember her wet BBBJ very well. Yes, she is Romanian.
FiddyCent.
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Good Companions
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1729590]I agree Blue Swede. Solida is a good companion.FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Even if I were a Vulcan, in the midst of full on Pon Farr, I would rather mate with a shuttle craft than Solida. One of the worst sessions ever, a session so bad that if RB finds himself in public place, like during a drinks at the European Central Bank, and an inexplicable erection happens, remembering this session instantly makes das Boner vanish. And I know a number of others who had similar nightmarish times with her.
Just to make it even more bizarre, she even now occasionally comes over to flirt, as 200,000 men later, she has forgotten how bad it was. The shields rev up to full power.
I have no doubt that some have had good times with S. As the earlier comment between an old Zimmerbaby post and Sybarite also shows, in all experiences between any 2 people, chemistry rules, and it is quite unpredictable. I only mention it for newcummers; before you race off and act on all these hot tips, slow it down, and make sure the vibe is really there before you zimmer. Everything you read here about who is great and who is not, is highly subjective, and YMMV.
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Red Alert.
[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1731038]Even if I were a Vulcan, in the midst of full on Pon Farr, I would rather mate with a shuttle craft than Solida. One of the worst sessions ever, a session so bad that if RB finds himself in public place, like during a drinks at the European Central Bank, and an inexplicable erection happens, remembering this session instantly makes das Boner vanish. And I know a number of others who had similar nightmarish times with her.
Just to make it even more bizarre, she even now occasionally comes over to flirt, as 200,000 men later, she has forgotten how bad it was. The shields rev up to full power.
I have no doubt that some have had good times with S. As the earlier comment between an old Zimmerbaby post and Sybarite also shows, in all experiences between any 2 people, chemistry rules, and it is quite unpredictable. I only mention it for newcummers; before you race off and act on all these hot tips, slow it down, and make sure the vibe is really there before you zimmer. Everything you read here about who is great and who is not, is highly subjective, and YMMV.[/QUOTE]Hello Rocketboy0.
My intel is a few years old, so things may have changed with her. I can only comment about my experience. She trapped me between one of the ottoman chairs and the bar. She grabbed me and did not let go. All I remember was the nice wet BBBJ that followed, while in the room. I do agree it is all about chemistry between the two people. Do take the time and spend some couch time with the girl. For my particular instance, the chemistry was spontaneous.
FiddyCent.
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German Blonde Melli from Cologne
From what I have heard last weekend Artemis must have been hell because of extreme crowds due to the Champions League game in Berlin. Thankfully I wasn't there but I plan to go this week.
I am quite interested in newcomers or those girls who are rarely present at Artemis since as of right now I already know the vast majority of the girls who are my type.
Melli or Melly is a German Blonde from Cologne, slim bit not super slim, medium height, small natural breasts and a beautiful face, great smile and quite communicative too. Tattooed on the upper right leg, other tattoos I don't remember. I saw her a few times already and she was always booked. Maybe that is due to her natural beauty. Even though she seems to be new at Artemis she has of course worked elsewhere like most of the Arte girls.
She seems smart and professional but at least this first experience with her was only average. A great BJ, slow and deep, a little dirty talk. I had her doggy style and in cowgirl, however somehow the chemistry wasn't there. Since we had a great and honest talk afterwards I believe there is potential for a much better experience next time.
With Melli I do recommend talking to her for a few minutes before going to the room. The reason I say that is because normally I like to take the risky short approach and it works well for me. However this time I am sure the more conservative, cautious approach would have worked a little better. BTW this was a few weeks ago during the night shift however I don't know if she is around right now.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1732041]
Melli or Melly is a German Blonde from Cologne, slim bit not super slim, medium height, small natural breasts and a beautiful face, great smile and quite communicative too. Tattooed on the upper right leg, other tattoos I don't remember. [/QUOTE]This is the girl with a big gun tattooed on the upper right leg, right?
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Roof garden
I've been to Artemis a few times but never found the way to the roof garden you see on the 360 tour on the website? It looks like you enter it from the top floor, but is it only possible with a girl? I'm interested in some outside fun, is that allowed in the roof garden? Looks more like an sun bath area.
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[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1732232]This is the girl with a big gun tattooed on the upper right leg, right?[/QUOTE]Correct. Did you zimmer her?
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Strangely beautiful
[QUOTE=Diplomat;1732263]Correct. Did you zimmer her?[/QUOTE]This music actually describes the session far better than words:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53lfXb73z3c[/URL]
2 hours in paradise dear friends. The ambience was inspired by Paulo Coelho, the perfect body and the flirty, honest, funny and lovely girl. The lovemaking was as smooth as Bayern Munichs attacking football. Her pussy so soft, just as the art of a Japanese sushi master. Before CIM, I was wondering if she is the one who could unite and create peace in the Middle East. The German flower.
Sadly YMMV.
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Ask for a CBJ then you must be sick
Been to Arte one day after the UCL final, still very busy with lineups at the entrance. Finally managed to get in and right away wanted to start offloading through a BJ, settled with that Petite Spanish girl. Once we were in the room and since I like to play it safe I asked for a CBJ. She directly started questioning my health and whether I am suffering from any decease otherwise how come I am asking for a CBJ? I calmed her down, assured her that I am very much healthy and the session progressed very well. I admit that I am new to Artemis and FKK scene in general but is it really wanting to be protected all the time is something unusual for such places?
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[QUOTE=Hif84;1732257]I've been to Artemis a few times but never found the way to the roof garden you see on the 360 tour on the website? It looks like you enter it from the top floor, but is it only possible with a girl? I'm interested in some outside fun, is that allowed in the roof garden? Looks more like an sun bath area.[/QUOTE]AFAIK roof garden isn't available for guests anymore, unfortunately.
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Planning another visit over the next couple of weeks. Anyone got any recommendations for mixed race or ebony girls working in Artemis at moment?
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[QUOTE=ExtraCu99;1732441]Been to Arte one day after the UCL final, still very busy with lineups at the entrance. Finally managed to get in and right away wanted to start offloading through a BJ, settled with that Petite Spanish girl. Once we were in the room and since I like to play it safe I asked for a CBJ. She directly started questioning my health and whether I am suffering from any decease otherwise how come I am asking for a CBJ? I calmed her down, assured her that I am very much healthy and the session progressed very well. I admit that I am new to Artemis and FKK scene in general but is it really wanting to be protected all the time is something unusual for such places?[/QUOTE]I think you imply to her that she have disease.
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I believe we don't have to go into too much detail about STD issues in this thread since it has already been discussed at great length and if neccessary it can be done in another thread.
Of course there is always a possibility to contract something nobody really wants to have. However we all know there is physician at Artemis and the women are regularly tested.
ExtraCu99 it is your right to ask for a covered BJ and the kind of conversation you seemed to have with that girl just sounds a little stupid to me from the girls part.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=ExtraCu99;1732441]Been to Arte one day after the UCL final, still very busy with lineups at the entrance. Finally managed to get in and right away wanted to start offloading through a BJ, settled with that Petite Spanish girl. Once we were in the room and since I like to play it safe I asked for a CBJ. She directly started questioning my health and whether I am suffering from any decease otherwise how come I am asking for a CBJ? I calmed her down, assured her that I am very much healthy and the session progressed very well. I admit that I am new to Artemis and FKK scene in general but is it really wanting to be protected all the time is something unusual for such places?[/QUOTE]Never been to Artémis, but you are right if you want to be very safe to ask for BJ with condom, but then also better not to kiss nor provide DATY and look carefully about herpes, your girl could be surprised because most of men ask for BBBJ, CIM, some ask for swallowing and also sex without condom, some men fuck 40 girls in AO in a week.
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Barbeque Wednesday?
I am going to the big A next week with two friends. I read on their website that they will have a BBQ if the weather permits it on Wednesday, but then again it is dessous tag so I am hesitating. Is Thursday a better choice?
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[QUOTE=Sucker17;1733386]I am going to the big A next week with two friends. I read on their website that they will have a BBQ if the weather permits it on Wednesday, but then again it is dessous tag so I am hesitating. Is Thursday a better choice?[/QUOTE]It depends. IMHO the BBQ isn't worth to align your decision on. If you prefer a greater selection of girls and to watch them mainly naked, you'd choose Thursday.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1733585]It depends. IMHO the BBQ isn't worth to align your decision on. If you prefer a greater selection of girls and to watch them mainly naked, you'd choose Thursday.[/QUOTE]Is it Saturday night good choice? I will take my friend to Artemis on Saturday and do not want him disappointed.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1733585]It depends. IMHO the BBQ isn't worth to align your decision on. If you prefer a greater selection of girls and to watch them mainly naked, you'd choose Thursday.[/QUOTE]Weekends are in general every time good. You might not go, when a big trade fair is open or like a special event is going on like champions league weekend. It is very very crowded and you even might have to wait an hour to come into the club. That might be the case, like I heard, on that Saturday when Barcelona won the champions league. All Spanish and Italian fans tried to come into the club. Later evening they had to wait long time to enter the club. They let 5 people go out and new 5 people come in. Line up very steady over the opening hours with round about 120 and more girls. And that until 5 am on a Sunday morning. You could imagine what was going on inside the club. That is what I heard. Can anybody confirm? But, as I said. That are only worst cases and not so often per year. Luckily for us FKK club lovers from Germany. We are able to choose our schedules and mind that kind of overcrowded places. But who likes it, why not. Cheers RM.
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[QUOTE=XiaoApple;1733652]Is it Saturday night good choice? I will take my friend to Artemis on Saturday and do not want him disappointed.[/QUOTE]Of course. Saturday night is a good choice, too. Maybe the busiest night of the week. Sometimes crowded, but you may exptect the widest variety of choices, concerning the girls. - Please see posting no. 7764 in addition. Next event of importance: Fashion Week, July, 06 - July, 10.
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Who are the current favourites?
Will be in Artemis this week. Wondered if any of the regulars at A could list some of the best girls at present?
It's been a while since anyone did a bit of a list of the girls with good service and looks, those with good looks but poor service etc.
Any guidance would be appreciated now that the mayhem after the Champions League and parties have passed.
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[QUOTE=Sucker17;1733386]I am going to the big A next week with two friends. I read on their website that they will have a BBQ if the weather permits it on Wednesday, but then again it is dessous tag so I am hesitating. Is Thursday a better choice?[/QUOTE]I like Wednesday as it is Lingerie night. I like a bit of mystery.
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The three types of Artemis girls and some up to date info
About PayForIts question and more.
We all know this is a highly subjective question and as someone who had nearly 100 different women at Artemis only (not to speak about gangbang parties, other brothels, escorts etc.) I can only be blunt and say: Try to forget these nerdy lists and statistics.
In my experience, there are three types of girls when it comes to service and the overall experience:
First the ones who nearly ALWAYS deliver, they are professional in a positive sense and at such a high level that they can perfectly adapt to each and every customer. They are few in numbers.
Second the ones who nearly NEVER deliver, they still might be decent human beings but they are not capable or not willing to give anything back to their guests and they are most certainly doing the wrong job. They are too not many in numbers.
Third the ones whose service may vary a lot depending on multiple factors such as their mood, their experience, age and looks and figure and personality and ethnicity and. Whatever of the individual guest, the amount of cash their earn from that guest and, and. And. Those are the vast majority of women.
Thats why many here are right to say 'YMMV' about a lot of their experiences.
So about the 'first class' women who I know personally and I also read a lot of reports and heard personal stories from friends who have been very positive just a few names: Jenna, Fatima, Vegas, Daisy, Chayenne, Nina (not available anymore), etc. Just to give a few examples.
At least Jenna and Chayenne are there. Also speaking about other women I personally like a lot but YMMV there is German Turkish Aylin, German Xenia, German Loira, German Nadja, Romanian Clara there right now.
In addition I have recently seen Asian Suna, Bulgarian Carrie, Romanian Amalia as well as the Germans Penelope, Madleine, Alexis, Tina and many more.
Hope that helps a bit.
Diplomat.
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Really helpful information
[QUOTE=Diplomat;1735235]About PayForIts question and more.
We all know this is a highly subjective question and as someone who had nearly 100 different women at Artemis only (not to speak about gangbang parties, other brothels, escorts etc.) I can only be blunt and say: Try to forget these nerdy lists and statistics.
In my experience, there are three types of girls when it comes to service and the overall experience:
First the ones who nearly ALWAYS deliver, they are professional in a positive sense and at such a high level that they can perfectly adapt to each and every customer. They are few in numbers.
Second the ones who nearly NEVER deliver, they still might be decent human beings but they are not capable or not willing to give anything back to their guests and they are most certainly doing the wrong job. They are too not many in numbers.
Third the ones whose service may vary a lot depending on multiple factors such as their mood, their experience, age and looks and figure and personality and ethnicity and. Whatever of the individual guest, the amount of cash their earn from that guest and, and. And. Those are the vast majority of women.
Thats why many here are right to say 'YMMV' about a lot of their experiences.
So about the 'first class' women who I know personally and I also read a lot of reports and heard personal stories from friends who have been very positive just a few names: Jenna, Fatima, Vegas, Daisy, Chayenne, Nina (not available anymore), etc. Just to give a few examples.
At least Jenna and Chayenne are there. Also speaking about other women I personally like a lot but YMMV there is German Turkish Aylin, German Xenia, German Loira, German Nadja, Romanian Clara there right now.
In addition I have recently seen Asian Suna, Bulgarian Carrie, Romanian Amalia as well as the Germans Penelope, Madleine, Alexis, Tina and many more.
Hope that helps a bit.
Diplomat.[/QUOTE]This is really helpful so many thanks. I agree that this is all subjective. But I"ve been stung before ignoring posts about girls with bad attitude when I've just been unable to ingore a sexy girl. So to get some experienced views / comments like this is very helpful indeed. I"m there later tonight and tomorrow so hopefully I'll meet some of the ladies you have recommended / made positive comments about. Many thanks again. Much appreciated and this is specifically why the forum is there in addition to reports on experiences. And I will post mine. Cheers.
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Anyone know if Avril is working these days?
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[QUOTE=Galazy2;1735432]Anyone know if Avril is working these days?[/QUOTE]I have not seen her during the last few days. When she will be back I don't know. As always I recomment to call the reception for exact info.
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Artemis Day One
Did not arrive in Germany unti fairly late and therefore did not get to the Club until 11 pm. Far too late. Was expecting it to be failry dead on a Wednesday night. Got that wrong. Despite dessous tag it was very busy. But with as many men as women. That bit was disappointing but in fact it did not prevent having a great time. After a few beers, started the hunt.
Cecille. Eyes immediately attracted to Ro stunner Cecil and her best friend Ruby. Cecil. Long blonde hair (extensions) super fit body. See cups (sillies but moderate and very nice). Bronzed body. Straight to room. DFK 50 extra. I declined. I found every girl in the club I asked if they did DFK and every one of them said extra. In the NRW clubs and some Frankfurt clubs this is standard so a bit annoying for it to be extra. BBBJ, sex in multiple positions and then some fun and games. Bit of role play (50 e extra but happy with that). One attempt at upsell with "do you want my dildo up your ass for e50". I am thinking that I'm not sure I want it if she paid me! Declined but declining was well accepted. Carried on for one hour. Top service from an exceptionally talented girl. Will repeat.
Ruby. Having rejected the offer of a threesome (probably will do it tomorrow), recovered, got some food (poor selection) and decided to try the other half of the team. Ruby stands very tall. Probably 6 ft without shoes. She is incredibly pretty in face. Wears a jewelled headband. Tanned toned body. She says she is a kick boxer and I tell her I believe her as I don't want to find out! Almost same report as with Cecille. BBBJ, sex in multiple, some extra games / role play. Perhaps not quite the same level as Cecille but still excellent. I told her she looks unapproachable in the bar. She said this was deliberate. She is lucky and does not struggle for customers so she smiles at those she wants to go with and not at those she doesn't like the look of! Once in the room her attitude is excellent. No upsell. One hour. 120 e + 50 e. Will repeat.
Discussions with Cheyenne. Amazing tattoo and tits but said she had done many sessions and service level not likely to be good. So honest. Carrie. Pretty Ro but not to my taste, Samantha. Tried hard and good body but face not for me, and Ina and her other dark haired curvy friend (forgot name) finally decided on final session with Tina (German) black hair, big sillies, thin waist. Mistake. My German is non-existent and her english is not so good. Despite her best efforts I was not going to be able to pop again (my fault not hers) and the chemistry was not right. YMMV. Ended session early. When it's not happening I don't see the point in carrying on. Told her I was calling time after 15 minutes. Probably too tired to have attempted a third girl tonight and she was friendly enough but would not repeat due to lack of chemistry.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1735580]DFK 50 extra. I declined. I found every girl in the club I asked if they did DFK and every one of them said extra.[/QUOTE]AFAIK the girls are forbidden to charge DFK or any kind of 'kissing' as extra. They sometimes offer some kind of deal by saying 'I will kiss you if you book me for an hour' or 'I will kiss you if you book CIM too' etc.
However, openly selling Kisses as an extra has always been forbidden. So when the next girl tells you this maybe you should ask the reception if that is correct.
I found your report quite interesting since I know all of the women you mentioned, some I zimmered with and others I only know them through past conversations.
Cecille and Ruby are my type too, however Ruby is gorgeous while Cecille has a great body but somehow she looks a bit more 'artificial'.
So have a great stay and keep up the good work!
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1735601]However, openly selling Kisses as an extra has always been forbidden. So when the next girl tells you this maybe you should ask the reception if that is correct.
Diplomat.[/QUOTE]Kissing is about mood and chemistry, if she asks extra for kissing, that could indicate she doesn't want to kiss you, not all men are nice to kiss. I don't push for kissing if she doesn't do it voluntary.
I accept her choice or I find another girl. I've never been asked extra for kissing.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1735235]
In addition I have recently seen Asian Suna, Bulgarian Carrie, Romanian Amalia as well as the Germans Penelope, Madleine, Alexis, Tina and many more.
Hope that helps a bit.
Diplomat.[/QUOTE]Asian Suna, if this is the thai girl that sometimes wear a school uniform with short skirt, she gives great service. In my short history of FKK mongering having visited 7 times, out of 16 sessions, she has given me by far the best service. Very friendly, bubbly and easy to talk to. Great English. In the room she would cuddle up, caress and lick me all over like a girlfriend. Gave great head, with lots of energy and light moaning. Sex in different positions, seemed to like it (at least gave that impression) and just made me feel great. Gave her a 20 tip in the end for outstanding service.
Highly recommended.
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[QUOTE=Mojoman74;1735817]Asian Suna, if this is the thai girl that sometimes wear a school uniform with short skirt[/QUOTE]Yes that is correct.
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Day Two
Returned on Thursday at 7. 00 pm so a bit earlier. Lots of girls I hadn't seen in the LU the previous night as well as the ones from the previous night. No dessous tag this time and it made a difference. Two girls who I had considered the previous night I no longer wanted to session with as the tits looked saggy. I like them quite firm but not particularly a silicone fan. Food much better with the chicken / peppers option. More girls tonight than last night and less men so buyers market.
First session: Fabienne. Half Ro and half Spanish. I am fairly fluent in Spanish / Italian so I could tell if she was lying and she wasn't. She speaks fluent Spanish. Long dark hair, tall, red lips. Quiet in the room. Nice kissing (no upsell on charge) and some nice 69 but somehow I wasn't tempted to extend beyond 30 minutes. Wouldn't repeat. Not the right chemistry though nice girl.
Second session: Cecille. Back to the old favourite from last night. Not facially as pretty as Ruby her friend but her body is better and is really hot. Nice tight pussy. One hour, great session. She is good fun. Lot's of games and left happy. €170 including €50 for the role playing games.
Third session: Joanna. Ro / Kazakstan. Incredible. Just when I contemplated calling it a day, a very pretty long dark haired girl with amazing brown eyes and a nice body came to talk to me. Very friendly indeed. I thought I recognised her as looking like someone else but couldn't think who. See below!! Tits not as firm as I'm like but her attitude / personality was infectious. Ended up one hour, games, DFK, sex with hat on in multiple positions. Dawned on me then that she is a brunette version of Emilia Clark (Daeneres Targaryen / Keleesi off Game of Thrones). Fantastic service, stunning girl, great attitude, good fun and knows how to please a guy.
Just when I was leaving bumped into Laura. Blonde (German) who I sessioned with some months ago. Too knackered to go again but recall a great session with her and her hair is now flowing and not in pony tail. Too tired for more though so next time!
Left happy. 6 good sessions in Artemis in two day. I still really like the club. I do think another FKK club in Berlin would make everything up its game a bit.
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Hey guys. Being in Artemis earlier this year, meet there a czech girl from Prague, who thereat didn't empress me much, so I didn't deal with her. However it seemed like I have seen her before. Much later I found out that she probably looks like pornstar Satin Bloom: [URL]http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=SatinBloom/gender=f/Satin-Bloom.htm[/URL].
Can someone confirm that she or a girl who looks very much like her really works in Artemis and give me a name?
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[B]18th June[/B]
I arrived at the club around 14.30. It was quite overcast so there wasn't going to be much outdoor fun today. It was pretty quiet in the bar, maybe 15 girls and a similar number of men. After a sauna I went looking for my first girl. I recognized a few faces; Gia, Ina and Alisha were available but in the end I went with Jenna.
[B]Jenna from Germany[/B]
I'm sure everyone on this board is familiar with Jenna, her tits are easily the biggest at the club. We had a long chat at the bar, she's wonderful company, then headed upstairs.
This was a superb session, a proper PSE. Lots of spanking and rimming and an energetic shag to finish. An excellent start to the day with a real star. Definite repeat when she returns after the summer. I've been with her a few times but this session was one of the best. 10/10.
I chilled in the bar for a while before looking for my next girl. There were a few more familiar faces present, I recognized Irish, Funda and Amalia but I wanted to try someone new. There were a lot of new (to me) faces and after knocking back a few approaches I went upstairs with Violetta.
[B]Violetta from Romania[/B]
She's a very pretty and curvy girl. Just my type. We had a great times together, slow at first but building up to a really strong CIM finish. She knew just when to turn on the dirty talk to keep the session going.
Lots of fun but the lack of kissing means I don't think I will repeat. 7/10.
I was wiped out for a bit so I just hung out in the wellness area. Had a swim and a read before getting dinner. The food was pretty good and the pork stir-fry I had was tasty.
By 19.00 the place was starting to fill up but it wasn't so full as to be uncomfortable. I was on the prowl for my next girl and I was thinking of taking Jenna over the jumps a second time but I got talking to a very beautiful girl at the bar who convinced me to go with her. After a nice chat we went to the room.
[B]Noreena from Romania/Ukraine[/B]
This was another new girl for me. Stunning, angular face and a killer (slightly curvy) all-natural body. She wears a red garter belt that sits over a lower back tattoo. This was my third session of the day so it took a little while to get going but when we started she was able to handle everything I threw at her. Finished on her beautiful tits and we were both panting for breath.
Another girl added to my 'definite repeat' list. 9/10.
I decided I would get a massage then decide if I was up for another session. Standing in the bar at her usual spot was one of my all time favourite Artemis babes; Amalia. I had a little chat with her and found her as charming as ever. So after a cigarette and a tea we headed upstairs.
[B]Amalia from Romania [/B]
Talk about leaving the best until last. This was one of my all time best sessions in all my years visiting the club. She's an incredible woman, beautiful, sexy, funny. Just great.
After a long time in the room I didn't think I was going to be able to finish but she worked her magic and had one of the strongest orgasms I've ever experienced. Out of this world.
Guaranteed repeat 10/10.
That was me done for the day. Even when I was leaving it wasn't super busy and there was no wait for a room. I looked for Avril but she wasn't working and chatting with some of the other Romania girls they were saying she was taking some time off and getting breast implants. Which I was quite sad to hear.
Thanks for reading.
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Is the fascination wearing off?
Returned to the Love Bahnhof for one evening last week, it had been quite a while since my previous visit. As was to be expected, a lot of new faces, but also, sadly, a lot of old favorites were missing. I think I saw Fatima in the distance at one point, but she was snapped up by an old geezer before I could reach her. I think maybe I was too intent on finding girls I had sessioned with before, and when they did not appear, my motivation was not 100%.
Some of the new girls were plenty attractive, though, and I had my eye on one short-ish young looking girl-next-door, with dirty-blond hair, natural be-cups for a while before approaching her. Eva (or Ewa?) from ROM, seemed happy for the attention, and was sweet and friendly downstairs. Not easy to communicate with, though, her English was as bad as my German. Went upstairs anyway, and she did unfortunately turn out to be too much of a novice. She was totally passive, weak BJ, and no kissing. The cowgirl was actually not too bad, and she did take a pounding in doggie, but with practically no pretense of having fun throughout. Can not recommend at this level of service, but maybe / hopefully she will improve as she was quite new to the scene. No upsell in the room, that's a good thing, we went for a vanilla 30 minutes (60 Euros).
Eva turned out to be my only zimmer-encounter that evening. I left Artemis with a sinking feeling that my fascination with the place had diminished, and that the "normal" brothels are more my style. Will not abandon Art, though. If some of the "old" guard are present on my next visit, this evening could have been nothing more than a speed-bump.
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That Sinking Feeling
[QUOTE=Ravein2;1736245] I left Artemis with a sinking feeling that my fascination with the place had diminished...[/QUOTE]Perhaps, but for others, the myth only grows. RB heard some fine stories about the Barce-Juve weekend while lurking around this past Saturday, itself unusually busy. I was in the house the Friday before Das Match and by late afternoon, I counted at least 100 guys around the outdoor pool. I had a fine time with one of my wives in one of the outdoor rooms, but left very early, and stayed away Saturday. Apparently, there was an alleged count of over 3,000 entries at the Reception on Saturday, and even at 05:00 closing time, there was a large que out in the parking lot trying to get in. It became so nuts that all lockers were full and someone had to leave before someone was allowed inside. And guys once inside so outnumbered the available lovelies that dudes were offering hundreds of Euros just for a 5-10 min session, which our intrepid damsels, amazingly enough, accepted.
I wasn't there, so who knows, but I heard the stories repeated. It seems even the next day Sunday, and a bit on Monday, things were full on. Far more crowds than the IFA. Apparently a fair bit of So Europa men told their families they were away on a football weekend, and just spent 3 days on penisalty kicks. Or UEFA actually stands for Unbelievable Extraordinary Fuckathon at Artemis.
Ok. It was a one off, a perfect storm etc. But for some months now, weekends seem more and more crowded almost to the point where it's too much, especially on Saturday night. Between the smoke, the crowding, and the mindless electronic dance music design to make a monger feral (such unerotic thumping with no drugs to make it tolerable), the strategy is come mid-late afternoon, enjoy what can be enjoyed, but be ready to bolt by 23:00. There are still some great women, but increasingly, all systems are getting overstretched. Less and less a sensual experience; more like boarding an EasyJet flight.
RB will soon take a long pause, and increasingly, the private bordellos beckon. Already, some of the A team are off on holidays and the ranks are thinning out; maybe this has been accelerated somewhat by the UEFA fallout.
If you are hell bent on seeing someone in particular, these days especially, and more so if you are traveling from afar, it's worth it to call ahead to ask if someone is actually in that day/week, even though the front desk may not know for sure until 20:00 depending upon the girl.
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Shitemis
[QUOTE=Ravein2;1736245]I left Artemis with a sinking feeling that my fascination with the place had diminished, and that the "normal" brothels are more my style. Will not abandon Art, though. If some of the "old" guard are present on my next visit, this evening could have been nothing more than a speed-bump.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Totally. Artemis is like cold women and hot beer. Lack of emotions, shit music, someone must give the DJ a free one way ticket to Syria. I love electronics music, but this crap belongs to doghouses in the outskirts of Pristina, Kosovo. The opposite is available other places in Berlin. It was so nice to rediscover vitality and sexual desire / energy. But for new visitors; enjoy the adrenalin and rush being surrounded by 100 naked girls. Miss the good old days. Zimmer out.
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[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1735612]Kissing is about mood and chemistry, if she asks extra for kissing, that could indicate she doesn't want to kiss you, not all men are nice to kiss. I don't push for kissing if she doesn't do it voluntary.
I accept her choice or I find another girl. I've never been asked extra for kissing.[/QUOTE]It could, but I think it's more likely that she sees somebody that will go with it. If it was a German regular at a certain club, that she will get kicked out for complaints likely she will not try it on them. If she thinks you are a newbie or certain type of men, she will try her luck. I expect girls with some experience to try this. Also, a girl that was quite popular or busy could after awhile start charging extras for services. And then, there are ones that think they are hot stuff, and thinks they have a good chance with doing unofficial extras. Also, if she see potential in you as a long term customer, if she notices you more often at a club, less likely she will try it to see if she can get you hooked long term.
If she doesn't want to kiss the man, she probably won't. Some girls kiss nearly every guy, and some girls are really not GFE material. I've met girls that would rather kiss take it slow than get some hard pounding, and others that just isn't a GFE material.
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Just to add some names to that list of first class girls as Diplomat described: Angie (Kos / Ger), Axenya (Bul), Ella (Rus), Mandy (aut) and Juliette (rus) (not sure she is still around). What seems to be the norm of these types of girls are that they are at least 27 years old, so they are pros and the experience to handle all types of guys. They probably all enjoy sex to some degree as well.
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Geraldine, Hungarian girl
Has any of you guys seen Geraldine from Hungary recently at Artemis? And do you know her working schedule for summer season.
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Good fun
Visited Artemis last week.
Heard so much from fellow mongers that I was somewhat underwhelmed by the place. The place is big and does not have too many girls.
I guess same no as in the other FKK clubs in frankfurt. I like the rooms here, they are nice and hygienic and every room is theme based one different from the other.
I tried a girl named alessandra who claimed she was from Spain, I have my doubts on that. Petite looking, medium height, about 63-64 inches, dark hair, medium tits, cute looking and pretty.
I aksed her if she would kiss and she in turn asked me if I smoke and I smiled. We went to one of the room upstairs and she picked a nice room based on my choice. I told her what I want.
We started to kiss and she was an aggressive kisser, deep, infact very deep, uses tongue extensively. Like it very much.
She got down and what transpired was one of the best BJ's I ever got, anywhere. This was a very different kind of a BJ, never got it before, very wet and lots of tongue involved.
She spent a good 20 minutes on it after which I fucked her in missionary, spoon, cowboy and doggy. I was kind of missing the BJ so asked her again for the same.
She took the condom off and gave me another amazing suck. Asked her if I could finish off in her mouth and she asked me in turn if I was healthy.
Liked the idea, gave her my nod and blasted my cream off in her mouth. She complained that it was quite bitter, I laughed and said what else do you expect.
Had loads of beers in the evening, so that could be one of the reaons. All in all a very satisfying session.
My rating. Body - 6. 5/10, attitude, 9/10, service, 8. 5/10.
Yes I did fuck her again and it was as nice as the earlier one.
Eva (Ro) - had a chat with her at the bar and took her to the room. Overall sloppy performance, she was just not interested in the BJ or the kiss.
I fucked her quite hard in return. Overall below avergae.
My advise avoid her like a plague.
I also tried one of her (Eva) friends who she hangs out with and stays generally near the bar. Forgot her name but she is also Romanian but definitely looks like an arabic.
She is very pretty, medium height, again 62-63 inches. Dark hair, dark eyes, with humongous natural tits.
I took her instantly for the size, she was not bad, below alessandra and above eva, somewhere in the middle.
She forgot to lock the door and one of the cleaners opened it while I was fuking her in doggie and was pumping her aggressively. We both laughed quite badly.
Doggie was my favourite position with her followed by 69, she had an incredible ass. Round and very curvy and she knew how to move it. Blasted in her mouth and happily paid €100.
My ratings. Body - 9/10 (if one likes it big), performance 8/10, attitude, 8/10.
I did fuck one turkish girl who was very pretty but loads of attitude and another romanian who allowed me to kiss her only if I confirmed a €100 payout with CIM.
My observations- alot of men are always hanging around the staircase and looking up and down. Don't like it. The place is not that great and is good for a one time visit.
Again and again is not doable. Beer and other drinks are expensive and food is not great. Entry and session charges are high, I don't mind it as long as the quality is good.
Have fun and let me know what you think.
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[QUOTE=SuperLove;1738600]Blasted in her mouth and happily paid 100.
[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. A 30 minutes basic session means 60 Euro and CIM is an extra which costs 50 Euro. So you should have paid 110 Euro not 100 Euro unless you got a discount which sadly never happened to me. About the girls you went with I don't know them or I don't know them well enough to comment.
However, there are very few Spanish girls, many of those who claim to be Spanish or Italian or maybe Greek are in fact Romanian, Moldovian or Bulgarian. I have pointed this out a long time ago as have others on here.
About the entrance fee I agree it is quite expensive and the overall food quality is very low even if sometimes it is a little better compared to the bad days. I personally don't care about the prices for alcohol since most of the time I am quite happy with non alcoholic beverages. I don't know what you mean by there were 'not too many girls' because there can be up to more than a 100 girls sometimes. You must have chosen a bad time or somehow you didn't realize how many girls were at the place alltogether.
I don't really like it when it is too crowded and since it is the only FKK club in Berlin of this size it can get very crowded. As a local and as a regular this is not such a big deal since you know when to visit and when to better avoid the place. Personally and mainly because you get to know people and you tend to get much better service from the ladies you know and care about, I still love the place and I think its worth more than one visit for sure.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
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My mistake
Yeah it was 110 and not 100, noone gets discount in prices. Discount in services sure.
[QUOTE=Diplomat;1738610]Thank you for the report. A 30 minutes basic session means 60 Euro and CIM is an extra which costs 50 Euro. So you should have paid 110 Euro not 100 Euro unless you got a discount which sadly never happened to me. About the girls you went with I don't know them or I don't know them well enough to comment.
However, there are very few Spanish girls, many of those who claim to be Spanish or Italian or maybe Greek are in fact Romanian, Moldovian or Bulgarian. I have pointed this out a long time ago as have others on here.
About the entrance fee I agree it is quite expensive and the overall food quality is very low even if sometimes it is a little better compared to the bad days. I personally don't care about the prices for alcohol since most of the time I am quite happy with non alcoholic beverages. I don't know what you mean by there were 'not too many girls' because there can be up to more than a 100 girls sometimes. You must have chosen a bad time or somehow you didn't realize how many girls were at the place alltogether.
I don't really like it when it is too crowded and since it is the only FKK club in Berlin of this size it can get very crowded. As a local and as a regular this is not such a big deal since you know when to visit and when to better avoid the place. Personally and mainly because you get to know people and you tend to get much better service from the ladies you know and care about, I still love the place and I think its worth more than one visit for sure.
Have fun.
Diplomat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SuperLove;1738600]Visited Artemis last week...
Heard so much from fellow mongers that I was somewhat underwhelmed by the place.
Have fun and let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]Me thinks that if your impression of Artemis (major FKK club 80 euro all-in, with 50 to 100 naked girls from different nationalities ready to BBJ / kiss / fuck you for 60 euros, in a safe environment) is that it has few girls, overpriced, poor atmosphere, hit and miss service (crap food is the only opinion I agree upon). Well then you must be a lucky guy, since it means your usual mongering spots are better.
Please share, I am still on time to change my summer schedule.
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Well said. Only thailand is comparable, and there it is also very hit and miss with prices creeping upwards too fast for my taste.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1735235] Also speaking about other women I personally like a lot but YMMV there is German Turkish Aylin, German Xenia, German Loira, German Nadja, Romanian Clara there right now.[/QUOTE]I tried out Aylin and Xenia, and also a Georgian called Georgina. Aylin and Georgina were so-so and just wanted to finish the session quickly. But Xenia surprisingly provided good GFE contrary to earlier reports I have read about her in this forum thread.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1739360]I tried out Aylin and Xenia, and also a Georgian called Georgina. Aylin and Georgina were so-so and just wanted to finish the session quickly. But Xenia surprisingly provided good GFE contrary to earlier reports I have read about her in this forum thread.[/QUOTE]I had an excellent session with Georgina a while back. Otherwise I think Cheyenne is the best girl at Artemis. I've been with her a few times and she has always been great. Russian Viola gave me the best blowjob I've ever had.
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Observations
Mr Dutedrac, I think you have taken this personally but I find Sharks and Mainhattan better. Quality of service is far superior and there is hardly any attitude thrown away by the chicks.
Additionally I also feel beauty on display is higher and there are more good stunners at these places. You may or may not agree with me but that's how I feel. When you say 50-100 girls at Artemis you failed to mention the no of men loitering around as well. My observation is that there are 2 girls for every 1 man in Frankfurt as compared to 3 for every 2 in Berlin.
Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1738729]Me thinks that if your impression of Artemis (major FKK club 80 euro all-in, with 50 to 100 naked girls from different nationalities ready to BBJ / kiss / fuck you for 60 euros, in a safe environment) is that it has few girls, overpriced, poor atmosphere, hit and miss service (crap food is the only opinion I agree upon). Well then you must be a lucky guy, since it means your usual mongering spots are better.
Please share, I am still on time to change my summer schedule.[/QUOTE]
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I spent 2 weekday afternoons and early evenings at Artemis this week after a 1 year break. Perhaps I was lucky, or perhaps it is often quiet on weekdays, but the ratio of girls to men were about 2:1, very similar to the Frankfurt clubs. There were more than enough girls to choose from and I was pleasantly surprised by the number of slim ones.
But as before, I was put off by the suffocating cigarette smoke, as ventilation is poor compared to the Frankfurt clubs, and left early in the night because of it. Maybe the ratio gets worse later at night as I did see plenty of men streaming in when I departed.
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Artemis can sometimes be buzzing with more guys than girls when there is a big messe ongoing. Even if there are 150 girls there. Sundays, tuesdays and especially mondays are very quiet though. Sometimes with three girls to one guy. But if you want a good girl to guy ratio, just go there before 16.00 in the evening. You might find 25 girls there and just 5 guys. Unfortunately the average on those girls are a bit below those who arrive later. But you could be lucky. I guess the fact that this is far from a strange occurance to have a messe ongoing practically next door to artemis is why pretty much all the girls consider it the best fkk and where they make the most money.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1739678]pretty much all the girls consider it the best fkk and where they make the most money.[/QUOTE]A girl I was with told me that on the night of the Champions league finals, there were so many customers relative to girls that a few offered her €200 or €300 just for 30 minutes. She said that she turned them all down as they appeared drunk. The girls must have had made a killing that night.
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[QUOTE=SuperLove;1739378]Mr Dutedrac, I think you have taken this personally but I find Sharks and Mainhattan better. Quality of service is far superior and there is hardly any attitude thrown away by the chicks.
Additionally I also feel beauty on display is higher and there are more good stunners at these places. You may or may not agree with me but that's how I feel. When you say 50-100 girls at Artemis you failed to mention the no of men loitering around as well. My observation is that there are 2 girls for every 1 man in Frankfurt as compared to 3 for every 2 in Berlin.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]It is good to know that Line up is more beautiful and young?? At sharks as I am going to sharks this summer for first time.
But FKK Manhattan has good line up?? Younger?? Than Artemis.
Artemis is not bad at all, I like the layout, location, management and some girls, but since I like younger girls, it is hard to find girls who are young at Artemis.
I never was treated badly by girls in Artemis though. Some upsell but not every time and I think Artemis is overall very balanced club.
Only complaint I have is that if entrance fee is higher than other German FKK and session is also higher than other German FKK, I like to see some difference in quality Artemis offer. I always think Artemis just charge you higher fee because it is only major FKK in Berlin where as in Frankfurt for example has competition so they got to compete, so price is lower there a bit and since there are competition better girls and better service in Frankfurt than in Berlin?
No competition makes girls lazy. Management is good at Artemis though.
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A good day at Artemis
A good day.
I visited Artemis again last Sunday, after a gap of 7 months. Arrived about 13.00 hours and left about 20.00 hours. The weather was nice and the outdoor area was much enjoyed. There was plenty of food available and I found the quality to be a little more than acceptable. As before I enjoyed the the day because it was quite but with a sufficient number of girls. There was always was plenty of girls around the bar waiting to be picked up. Later in the day I went with 3 girls, at different times. They all said they were from Hungary. Was this a coincidence or do they hunt in packs? They all had a persuasive ability and tried up-sell, but this was easily deflected. I went for the basic 60 e sessions. I was too busy enjoying myself and getting all exited to remember their names. The place got busier in the evening with even more good looking sexy naked girls.
I hardly noticed the time passing. I did not think the that the entrance fee was so high that it would deter me from going in. As before I found Artemis to be a good place to spend a day when in Berlin.
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Who is the girl?
There was a lot of stunning girls in the pool at Artemis Saturday and Sunday, especially two of them that looked like real art, I couldn't let my eyes of them. I think I was drooling like a St Bernard (dog) when I stared at them for a long time LOL, I wish to know their names for my next visit.
Both of the girls had real good looking tan and one of them had a lot of tattoos, she had a tattoo in the neck looking like a dollar sign with a crown on top and on her stomach she had "see'est la vie" and also a big gun tattoo at her right leg, she was speaking German with others in the pool, I can't speak German myself so I never come to speak with her.
The other girl had had a similar body shape but no tattoos, except a small one on her left wrist what I could see, I think she was speaking Romanian, she was speaking and playing with Amelia and Amalia in the pool, she had painted fingernails in turquoise, purple and pink I think, and she had like a golden barrette in her hair, her height was probably around 160-165 cm, she had a fabulous smile and a wonderful face and she was laughing all the time, she sat by the pool stairs, both of the girls had real good looking silicone.
I really hope they will be there the next weekend, does anyone know their names?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=FlyByCable;1743237]There was a lot of stunning girls in the pool at Artemis Saturday and Sunday, especially two of them that looked like real art, I couldn't let my eyes of them. I think I was drooling like a St Bernard (dog) when I stared at them for a long time LOL, I wish to know their names for my next visit.
Both of the girls had real good looking tan and one of them had a lot of tattoos, she had a tattoo in the neck looking like a dollar sign with a crown on top and on her stomach she had "see'est la vie" and also a big gun tattoo at her right leg, she was speaking German with others in the pool, I can't speak German myself so I never come to speak with her.
The other girl had had a similar body shape but no tattoos, except a small one on her left wrist what I could see, I think she was speaking Romanian, she was speaking and playing with Amelia and Amalia in the pool, she had painted fingernails in turquoise, purple and pink I think, and she had like a golden barrette in her hair, her height was probably around 160-165 cm, she had a fabulous smile and a wonderful face and she was laughing all the time, she sat by the pool stairs, both of the girls had real good looking silicone.
I really hope they will be there the next weekend, does anyone know their names?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The girl with the gun tattoo sounds like German Nadja from Berlin. Was she blonde with nice silicone? She is a regular at Artemis and usually hangs out with Jana from Berlin. A blonde with natural breasts. They sit at the end of the bar in the lounge. Nadja is sometimes called the ice queen. A little cold in the lounge but good in the room. I did her once together with Jana.
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[QUOTE=FlyByCable;1743401]Aha, I did a search in the forum and found the name of the first girl. Melli or Melly.[/QUOTE]I was also at Artemis this Sunday, the name of the first girl you described is Kiara if I'm not mistaken!?
I had a session with a few months ago she had a tight pussy but she had one of the worst BJ I have had in my life (she sucks with her teethes) ok personality didn't kiss and didn't seem to like DATY. If you have a connection with her go for it, otherwise don't bother.
Sorry but I don't know the name of girl number 2.
Myself had a two fabulous sessions with Mayra from Venezuela she is very much GFE, highly recommended!
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Hi FlybyCable.
I do not know the names of the girls you saw with absolute certainty. Playing a guessing game and just throwing names makes no sense to me. Sorry to ask this but why didn't you just ask them to introduce themselves. You can be sure the girls are able to say their names, the prices and a at least the stuff that is needed for their work in German, English and a few other languages.
BTW at times the vast majority of the guests are Non Germans and nobody expects you to be fluent in German.
German Melli does have a pistol tattoo on her leg but I believe she is not the only one. About the other tattoos I am not sure.
About what Hermann666 said I can tell you for sure NONE of the girls you described is Nadja. I like her too and I know he has been with her and Jana. But nothing about your description fits her: Nadja has a few tattoos but none of it is a dollar sign or a pistol or anything similar. Also she is 175 cm tall without shoes, she does not speak Romanian and she is certainly not laughing all the time. I know her well and this is not her.
Please guys don't take this personally but if you are really interested in a girl don't be too shy and approach her. No one who is worth your money and the effort will refuse to give her name or even spell it so that you can take a note.
And then if you got a name or someone on here gives you a name please use the search function. Nadja for example has been described more than once so that should have turned up.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
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Thanks Hermann666, but I think Nadja is the wrong name.
Yes Diplomat, you are right. There is no meaning to drop names around. I think now Melli was the wrong name, this girl with the BIG gun tattoo on her right leg was NOT blonde (maybe dyed hair?) and she had very good looking silicone, maybe it can be Kiara? I don't know. I hope they will be there next weekend and I will have a chat with them.
I think both of them were incredibly beautiful, especially the second girl, a real beautiful face with one of the most beautiful smile I ever seen. If I should guess her age I would say somewhere around 22-24. But for sure, it's not always the best looking girls that give the best performance.
And with that I'll finish with a small tip. I had two great sessions with the Polish Gabriela this weekend, a wonderful girl with a great performance, she did the sessions with great presence and she's a good kisser.
A big recommend for her.
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I think that the name of the girl with the tattoo "see'est la vie" on her stomach and also a big gun tattoo at her right leg and she was speaking German is FAIRY.
I went with her more than a year ago. She had long black hair and not middle brown hair like now.
Bye.
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Monday 13/07-2015.
I arrived very late – almost at 02:00. I prefer girls with fake tits but I didn't see that many compared to previous visits and reports.
Nina or Nika or?
German girl with fake tits, slim and dark hair.
She seemed nice when I talked to her but inside the room she was very disappointing. She thought I was a newbie and tried all the old tricks on me.
Samantha.
Bulgarian girl with glasses, fake tits, blond hair, slim, MILF-look.
Very good session. She did a lot of DFK, very long blowjob with deep throat and face fucking, many positions etc. I was about to leave the room after I finished but she told me that I still had 5 min left and that she would give me a massage. She told me that it's her birthday on Wednesday. I might go and give her an early birthday present today. She might not be the best looking girl but I strongly recommend her.
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Couples?
Hi,
Sorry if it is the wrong place to post.
I'm planning to visit Berlin in late August and was wondering if it is acceptable to go with my wife.
Thanks for the help.
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[QUOTE=Astonian2008;1746717]I'm planning to visit Berlin in late August and was wondering if it is acceptable to go with my wife.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. It is fine to visit Berlin with your wife. You can even visit the other 500+ cities of Europe with your wife. No special permission needed. Sometimes a leash is handy.
However (drum roll).
If in addition, you were thinking to bring her to the hell hole, swamp of sin, mine-field of muschi Artemis die Fick-Fabrik:
Fuggedabowdit.
No womens allowed. Dems is the rules. The private bordellos and various swinger clubs are another matter. See the Berlin thread esp Berlin FAQ and all the info on other threads like Party Treff for Insominia etc.
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Wednesday Poolparty
Hi,
According to Artemis site, there's a pool party the 29th. Is it best to avoid this kind of events? Or does it actually bring the better talent? Being on a Wednesday I would imagine that it won't be too crowded, so the ration might not be that bad? What would the local experts recommendation would be? To go for the pool party or go the day after or the Friday after? I can go that week, but can only go one day. Some thoughts about it would be highly appreciated!
Thanks!
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Are Ina and Melek around for the moment?
Hey,
I'm really into these 2 girls. Are they both active in Artemis for the moment? Any of them?
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State of the Union
So I was back at Artemis, or as Rocketboy so elegantly, and poetically described it, hell hole, swamp of sin, mine-field of muschi Artemis die Fick-Fabrik.
Way to go lowering my expectations like that.
I will try to make this shorter then my previous reports.
Day 1, Wednesday.
Marta, Latvia.
Might be the most beautiful woman there after my taste, very pretty face, very nice slim body, be cups, plump pussy with very suck able lips. She was normally sitting in the couch on behind the bar upstairs. Does not seam to approach. I gave her a big smile when she walked up the stairs, this made her come over to me and chat, got a nice vibe from her, short interview, she ticked all my boxes. In the room she kept her promises, light DFK, DATY, very nice slow no hands blow job, with DT.
Promised I would take her to the room again later.
German from Berlin.
Don't remember her name. Said she was the only one from Berlin there. Said she only works part time a few days at a time. Dyed blond Mid / late 20 ties, tattoos writings down her side, brand new way to big sillies, I had to promise to be gentle with them. Normally not my style. But there just was something about her that made me trust her, very easy to talk to, also made me talk very straight forward, so I asked for kissing and GFE, first time I uttered the words girl friend experience to a working girl she laughed and said is that's all?
In the room, light DFK, DATY, but when it got interesting and she got very wet she stopped me. Of to blow job multiple positions, she asked for anal, she said she wanted to cum, but did not come from pussy, I declined, finished at around 40 minutes, we talked for 20 minutes, very cool woman, no bullshitting. Gave me tips about my kissing, apparently I could do better. We talked about why I did not do CIM and anal, role-play, feet fetish as most guys, apparently do. My wallet regretted this conversation later on. Said I was very nice guy but a little to slow, I think she meant she preferred someone with a little more outgoing personality. Very refreshing. Very nice session.
Ella, Russian.
Not much to say, not my cup of tea in the way of looks. But she is just a super solid performer, when I asked for slow, I got slow, 40/45 minutes of foreplay, then 10 min of fucking. A must try for anyone visiting Artemis.
Axenya, Bulgarian.
Petite hot body, sillies that actually was a good size for the frame. Since it was lingerie day, you could not tell from inside the bikini.
She walked up to me said she did all the things I normally go for, before I even asked her, DFK, slow, etc. I had a 50/50 feeling about here, but hey its only 60 euro right and she was hot. Up the stairs we went, her idea of foreplay, 2 pecks on the lips, and then Blowjobb now? Within 30 seconds. All the alarm bells started ringing. This smelled like she trying to get me out of the room within 10 minutes. So I decided to make the best out of it, and make sure she would have stay every single 30 minutes.
But there was no up sell and no rushing. Had an extended blow job plus rigorous fucking, for over 20 minutes. The lying about the kissing made actually more determined to get the most of my 60 euros so I was more lets say energetic then normal. She turned to to be a good optifick. Spent 5 minutes talking after, and the gentleman in me returned and we left at the 27 min mark.
African looking girl, but with lighter skin, maybe Julianna?
She said half German half American, her English did not support that, probably raised in Germany, Lived in Hamburg, young, said she was 22, dark skin, short 155 maybe very pretty. Initially I declined her outright, but she kept coming over to me and talked to me non pushy just natural little chats, she was super sweet, so after almost a day of these little talks I took her to an outside room. Sadly my initial gut feeling was correct, turns she was way to inexperienced. Only 2 weeks at Artemis, came from clubs in Hamburg and the reaper bahn. And took after the sharks, wanted 20 euro for kissing with tongue, on the lips was ok, I told her she was not allowed to this, she said she knew, but it was normal all the Romanians did it, and that they also charged for licking etc. I said this was simply not true, it is sad if the sharks are corrupting her. Result no foreplay so no proper season for me.
Day 2, Thursday.
Marta.
In my second session with her I did something I have never done before, asked a non sex session, I asked for a very long slow and deep blow job only with CIM. She smiled and said no problem. My previous experiences with CIM, is the girls jumps up 5 secs after I am finished and spits. Not so with Marta, she kept going and going until I was completely empty. She even gave me the paper towel before she got some for her own to spit in. But frankly I did not need the towel, there was nothing left to clean.
Jolene, Hungarian.
Know her from before, see my previous reports. She is very good to me I like her a lot. She also reads the forums apparently, she told me she had read my previous report and knew I had written it.
Soma, Thailand.
Very cute, I had not been with a Thai before. Promised kissing, but in he room only on the lips and avoided it, so stopped trying. Gave a nice blow job, had this interesting DT technique, want all the way down, turned her head almost 180 degree, then puled up, you could feel your dick twisting in the back at her throat. I did DATY after the excellent blow job, but after this my little friend failed me, so no fucking her, I wanted to do her doggy looking at her tiny cute butt. Promised I would make it up to her later. We spent the last 5 minutes just spooning, and cuddling.
Day 3, Friday.
After 2 days at Artemis my dick got so sore, never had this happen to me before. Fucked up my schedule and had to take the Friday off, wonder if this what a girls pussy feels like after a busy day. It fucked up my schedule and forced me to go to Artemis on a Saturday.
Day 4, Saturday.
It was immediately clear that Saturdays are different from other days. The vibe was completely different from previous visits, even how the girls handled themselves, the previous days was all about slow sex, massage etc, now it was all business and everything you said was countered with, "depends how much you will spend baby". Not that I blame them, Artemis was full of first timers, so standing at the stairs, I noticed a lot of 15 min sessions. Did not like it very much. It took me 3 or 4 hours before I did my first room.
Cynthia.
When she arrived I just took her, because of lack of other interesting girls, and I remembered her to be good last time, my report said 90 min session. Big mistake, everything was restricted, not like last time. So no meaningful foreplay possible. Also lied to me about remaining time, when I asked she said the 30 minutes was up, checked the watch after, and it was bit over 20 minutes.
Soma.
Again it took a long time before anyone interesting showed up. So when Soma arrived I picked her up in almost desperation. I knew the blow job would be good, but no foreplay. Turns out her pussy is a little to tight for me, came to fast to be enjoyable, my shortest room this trip 17, minutes. Not her fault at all, entirely my own.
At this point I was a bit depressed and very negative, Saturday Artemis had not treated me well.
Amalia, Germany / Iran.
The savior of Saturday Artemis. Seen her around, nice long dark hair, pretty face, very nice body perky natural tits, no tattoos. But had always struck me as a shark. Was very busy, did 4 Asians the first hour, then 3 more guys the next. But the lack of talent this Saturday, made me curious. So I talked to her, learned her name, and that she might be the one mentioned on the boards. Though she was all business, wanted minimum 1 hour + CIM, to give me good service. So I turned her down. She hinted me to all day that we should go to the room, just in passing, groping my ass etc.
So when I sat alone outside dwelling in my self pity, she came around and asked how I was, I told her that my time so far had not been great. She just said, shitty girls right? She sat down on my lap hugged me and said she wanted to cuddle with me. She was now warming up to me, but I needed a little more rest time, later I found her, accepting her terms. Boy was I not disappointed, she left the business side outside the room, turned in to a complete sweetheart, and was all I needed her to be at that time, turned a shitty day to an excellent one. Extended the session just to cuddle. Told me I had been with her last year, but I did not remember her.
Did not want to push my luck, so no more sessions, left for my hotel.
Did some reading about Amalia when I got back to the hotel, and found her in my own report from last year, She looked different then curly hair, I did not accept her requirement then and it was one the worst experiences after. Oh the irony. Confronted her the next day, and was honest about it she said yes it was bad.
Day 5, Sunday.
Amalia.
Entered Artemis a few minutes after 11, Amalia was sitting at the bar, and off we went. We started with cuddling pressed my whole body really close to hers, kissing, or more like tongue twisting and tongue sucking not really popper DFK. She held me close saying Your are so cute, I want to eat you up, and quite literally she did, nibbling on my cheeks and nose, inn between the kissing. Over to a long blow job with some DT. Asked for anal this time, just to be reminded why anal is not for me, there are just no stimulation there, just a tight squeeze, so I lost my erection. I finished off in doggy, with my thumb up her ass. So gain anal penetration not my thing, fingering and playing on the other hand was nice, these girls should offer butt plug play. If one of them walked trough the bar with a butt plug in her ass, like one with a jewel on the end. I bet she would attract a lot of guys inducing me.
Amalia, and Mariella.
As I was ticking some check boxes, I though why not lets do one more.
Asked her to bring a friend, but it would have to be threesome where I was not the centre, it had to be on all of us, she said not problem. She brought a blonde friend Mariella witch she shares an apartment with. I am not going in to details here. But it succeeded all my expectations, they did as promised and then some. Even better I managed to last a long while, just fantastic.
Martina or Martine Bulgarian.
No clue why I picked her, not my type at all, I plead momentary insanity. Asked my normal question, she said yes. In the room everything was off the table, left after 20 minutes when she tried to cheat me on time, saved my orgasm.
Chyeanne? Not sure it spelled correct. Ukraine / turkey.
Pissed off from the last encounter I did yet an another mistake, picked this blonde by the name, Chyenne I t sounded like. Asked the same questions, got a yes. Walking up the stairs I realised this was not the same girl mentioned as a solid performer. Again everything was a no go, even touching breasts Just told her to blow me, and let her do so with no intention off cumming, after a while she caught on, she said 2 min left are you going to cum? I looked at her watch, I had 7 minutes left. I said to her, maybe, keep going I still have time. And man she got pissed, screamed at me saying the time was up, checked my own watch and I was right. Got the feeling I had pressed my luck, so we left, no talk or pleasantry where exchange when money changed hands.
In hindsight this was pretty much an asshole move on my part, and now I feel a tiny tiny bit sorry for her.
After this was so angry I just left Artemis. The lady at the respiration asked if everything was OK, and I tried to tell her it was not, but she just ignored me, and changed the subject by saying "is you locker all empty?" I just walked away pissed off at myself, pissed off at lying girls, pissed off at Artemis. And was hell bent to never go back to Artemis again.
Got back to the hotel and released my aggression by rage writing extra 2 pages to this report, I edited out most of it.
Day 6, Monday.
Woke up in much better mood.
And of course I went back to Artemis, after all I had made a promise to Amalia, and a gentleman can not break a promise right. And hoping Jolene would be there, she had been absent Saturday and Sunday.
Jolene.
Found Amalia at the front of the bar, and Jolene at the back, Amalia hooked me inn, but I told her if it was ok to go with Jolene first, Amalia did not mind.
Jolene was just the perfect GFE as always.
Amalia.
After resting I found Amalia, yet another great session with her.
Though Amalia sucked my wallet dry, she always delivered on her promise. Solid performer if you accept her terms, really bad if you don't. But at least she is honest about it and you can make the choose before going to the room. To me she was PSE with GFE elements with some kissing and cuddling attached in my case. Still had a great time with her.
Final Session, 2 hours with Jolene.
Gents if you come across this women, treat her nice. She is indeed a rare thing these days.
Jolene if you read this, I thank you yet again for a wonderful time.
After thoughts.
As reported before Artemis is pretty much filled up with tattoos and silicone these days, most of them look intimidating or unfriendly to me. Some did not handle rejection well, so I stopped trying. Was very close to take Nadja to the room tough. Amelia told me, in just the last few months 10 more of the girls got their boobs done.
One note, as I left a room upstairs one of these cold and "scary" girls passed me talking in the phone laughing and smiling, why was she not like this down stair, I would take her to the room in a heartbeat.
Found only 4 interesting women this time, there are probably more gems in there, but I did not have the skills to find them. I do not know If this warrants a new visit. But I had a pretty nice time all things considered.
Now a question, when you do DATY and the woman reaches climax. And the clit gets super sensitive, the lightest touch of your tongue instantly makes her muscles contract, and if you do it more then once they push you away, and protects the pussy with her hands. I have experienced this with many working girls. Is this fake able, it is such instant reaction. They do say I am good at it, but is it just ego stroking?
This hobby is such a mind fuck sometimes.
I so failed on the short thing, BTW. But I did edit away 2 pages.
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[QUOTE=Batou75;1749340]So I was back at Artemis,
I will try to make this shorter then my previous reports.
This hobby is such a mind fuck sometimes.
I so failed on the short thing, BTW. But I did edit away 2 pages.[/QUOTE]Hey Batuou. Far from finding your report too long: it was well written, really honest, very informative and useful. I wish you hadn't edited away those pages. I was in Artemis a few weeks ago for only two nights and then spent 4 nights in the Hessen clubs in and around Frankfurt. I reported a comparison (as I do each time I visit both Berlin and Frankfurt). Last year FRA won hands down with Sharks and Oase. This time, for me Artemis was a clear winner. It's all about the girls you meet. Interestingly you didn't mention any of my favs at Artemis. Joanne (half Ro and half Kazakstan) - dark long hair, bee cups and great performer. Celia. Blonde - sits at bar with Ruby on front rather than behind where the couches are. They come across as unfriendly in the lounge until you have sessioned with them / get to know them. After which they are very lovely girls. Ruby is stunning. Blonde - wears jewelled headband. Celia is tall, blonde, great body. My type. Both offer all services and are good sessions. Maybe Celia slightly better. Laura. German - blonde. Very facially pretty. Sits on final couch in corner behind the bar towards the dining room end. I know a lot of girls go home for summer so maybe that explained it. Don't know Jolene or Amalia so will look out for both on next trip in a few weeks.
Anyway. I really enjoyed your report. Very useful for anyone going shortly and excellent that you recalled names and did not shy from giving positive and negative reviews. Which is what the forum is all about. I applaud your stamina. Despite the sore cock one day! I'm there start of August so let me know if you are going to be back!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1749375]Interestingly you didn't mention any of my favs at Artemis. Joanne (half Ro and half Kazakstan) - dark long hair, B cups and great performer. Celia. Blonde[/QUOTE]Both where there and introduced themselves to me, they did not catch me at the right time I guess. Somehow you forget the girls that introduces them self when you are resting easier, then when you are on the prowl.
Sometimes you see yourself blind, by all women there, and having to much information going in.
Thanks for the positive feedback.
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Hi Batou75, thank you for this excellent report and all your effort. It is not too long because it has so much info, names and a few personal notes I did find interesting.
Just a few remarks.
[QUOTE=Batou75;1749340]
German from Berlin.
Don't remember her name. Said she was the only one from Berlin there. Said she only works part time a few days at a time. Dyed blond Mid / late 20 ties, tattoos writings down her side, brand new way to big sillies, I had to promise to be gentle with them. Normally not my style. But there just was something about her that made me trust her, very easy to talk to, also made me talk very straight forward, so I asked for kissing and GFE, first time I uttered the words girl friend experience to a working girl she laughed and said is that's all?
In the room, light DFK, DATY, but when it got interesting and she got very wet she stopped me. Of to blow job multiple positions, she asked for anal, she said she wanted to cum, but did not come from pussy, I declined, finished at around 40 minutes, we talked for 20 minutes, very cool woman, no bullshitting. Gave me tips about my kissing, apparently I could do better. We talked about why I did not do CIM and anal, role-play, feet fetish as most guys, apparently do. My wallet regretted this conversation later on. Said I was very nice guy but a little to slow, I think she meant she preferred someone with a little more outgoing personality. Very refreshing. Very nice session.
[/QUOTE]I don't know about the service, but from your description of her looks and her outspoken but friendly personality this could very well be JANA. Maybe have a look at the Artemis website to tell if I am right or wrong. There is one picture of Jana and Nadja. Jana is the one sitting on the floor, the picture was taken a little more than a year ago and before the recent boob job.
You also mentioned a dark haired 'Amalia from Iran'. AFAIK Amalia is a Romanian blonde very athletic MILF so you either got the name wrong or there has been a change.
[QUOTE=Batou75;1749340]
Chyeanne? Not sure it spelled correct. Ukraine / turkey.
Pissed off from the last encounter I did yet an another mistake, picked this blonde by the name, Chyenne I t sounded like. Asked the same questions, got a yes. Walking up the stairs I realised this was not the same girl mentioned as a solid performer. Again everything was a no go, even touching breasts Just told her to blow me, and let her do so with no intention off cumming, after a while she caught on, she said 2 min left are you going to cum? I looked at her watch, I had 7 minutes left. I said to her, maybe, keep going I still have time. And man she got pissed, screamed at me saying the time was up, checked my own watch and I was right. Got the feeling I had pressed my luck, so we left, no talk or pleasantry where exchange when money changed hands.
In hindsight this was pretty much an asshole move on my part, and now I feel a tiny tiny bit sorry for her.
[/QUOTE]I am quite sure this was not 'Chayenne', a very slim dark haired German Ukrainian woman with silicone boobs. Her beautiful face has been compared to actress Anne Hathaway in the past and she is one of the best performers I know (of course YMMV as always).
There is one blonde 'Sheenya' and another dark haired 'Sheenay'. If it was one of those two, I don't know. I personally find the names confusing sometimes but I also try to get them right because then it is much easier to know who to ask for and also finding reports on those.
You wrote you were close to going with Nadja. Why didn't you if I might ask?
Batou please keep up the good work!
Diplomat.
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Bayou,
I really appreciated your report as well. I was at Artemis last night and am planning a return tonight.
Was Ella (RUS) blondish with a round face, natural be / see cups and a little on the thicker side (but not fat)? If so I agree with your statement as I sessioned with her last night. Asked for sure and sensual and it was a great time.
I also went to the room with a petite girl from Dominican republic (forgot name, good service) and a sandy blonde ro that was ok.
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First timer in FKK
Went to Artemis as a first timer and somewhat new to the pay for play scene and was amazed. I couldn't help from giggling to myself as I was sitting in the lounge on a Sunday afternoon and seeing so many beautiful and personable girls simply walking around naked.
I did encounter some a couple rude girls when I said that I needed to rest and recover. One thicker Turkish girl called me boring as she walked away. It seemed the pressure to sell themselves increased during the evening.
At one point there were like 15 guys and 30 to 50 girls. It was so surreal, I felt like a Roman emperor.
I wish I had remembered the girls names better, but my brain was busy absorbing all the eye candy and trying not to be nervous.
I went with a exotic looking (for me all least) girl from Turkey, I think. She looked very classy and welcomed me when I first arrived. She was nice, but as I was getting to know her, her feet odor came across to me and turned me off. Plus she had to be a little careful with her boobs as she got a boon job 2 months ago.
My second session was with a taller German girl who came over to me in the lounge (I forgot her name). She had beautiful angel wings on her back and a German expression about being close to her heart under one of her boobs. She was amazing! Very relaxed and sweet. I felt very comfortable with her and she really provided GFE experience. We talked some which helped calm me down a bit and we really seemed to click. Stayed with her for 1 hour, no upsells just pure fun. By the way, her feet did not stink. LOL. I'm not a foot fetish guy, but I like to give a massage to my girl and explore her body.
Visited the saunas and hot tub and had some dinner. The food was better than I expected. Normal German type food. Although later in the evening the kitchen ran out of some of the items that were available earlier.
My 3rd try was going to be my pick to I camped in the lounge and checked out the girls. I really wanted to go withe the girl with the gun tattoo on her right hip, but she seemed not interested when I tried to get her attention. She had the best boobs in the place and smoking hot body with a pretty face.
Since I like smaller and thin girls, I decided to try and chase down a real tall, but thin blonde walking around gracefully. She was from Romania and was 178 cm tall and weighed 47 kg and I didn't see any tattoos. She was nice but not too into it. Her face is not my type but she had an interesting and artistic body to me. Gave a weak hand job probably because she had little muscle tone to her, but she had a tight puss.
Overall the place is indeed a boy's dream. And yes I felt like a little kid in a candy store. After the entrance fee, 1 bar cocktail, 2 30 minute sessions and a 1 hour session, my wallet was on cardiac arrest for the day.
Not sure if I'll come back this trip, but it is a place I would like to come back to again and bring a wingman.
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Hi thanks for your report. If you come back, I recommend asking for the girls names afterwards and taking a note so that you will be able to include those names into your report.
I am not sure about the names of the girls you went with, only one name I know for sure because of the tattoos fit and so does the rest of your description.
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My second session was with a taller German girl who came over to me in the lounge (I forgot her name). She had beautiful angel wings on her back and a German expression about being close to her heart under one of her boobs. She was amazing! Very relaxed and sweet. I felt very comfortable with her and she really provided GFE experience. We talked some which helped calm me down a bit and we really seemed to click. Stayed with her for 1 hour, no upsells just pure fun. By the way, her feet did not stink. LOL. I'm not a foot fetish guy, but I like to give a massage to my girl and explore her body.
[/QUOTE]Her name is Nadja.
Could you describe the service in more detail? Especially the GFE experience. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1749519]I don't know about the service, but from your description of her looks and her outspoken but friendly personality this could very well be JANA. Maybe have a look at the Artemis website to tell if I am right or wrong. There is one picture of Jana and Nadja. Jana is the one sitting on the floor, the picture was taken a little more than a year ago and before the recent boob job.[/QUOTE]Might be Jana, I though I heard Diana at one point but was not sure. She said she has a regular job on the outside, and only works Artemis, at holidays etc and only a few days at a time.
[QUOTE]You also mentioned a dark haired 'Amalia from Iran'. AFAIK Amalia is a Romanian blonde very athletic MILF so you either got the name wrong or there has been a change.[/QUOTE]Amalia or Amira, no tattoos, dark hair down to her back, said she was 25, nice light brown skin, looked amazing all oiled up, smaller natural beautiful breasts. Said she has Iranian heritage, but that sounds awful close to Romanian, but raised in Germany, lives in hamburg, shares an apartment with the blond Mariella. Works 2 weeks at a time then she goes home for 2 weeks, and had worked at Artemis for 2 years, was always there at opening time, sitting at the front of the bar closest to the entrance. Was very busy, went upstairs almost constantly, even when it was slow for others.
[QUOTE]There is one blonde 'Sheenya' and another dark haired 'Sheenay'. If it was one of those two, I don't know. I personally find the names confusing sometimes but I also try to get them right because then it is much easier to know who to ask for and also finding reports on those.[/QUOTE]She was blonde small tits so must be Sheenya.
[QUOTE]You wrote you were close to going with Nadja. Why didn't you if I might ask?[/QUOTE]Frankly the silicon breasts all the tattoos and her serious face intimidated me. Also blondes is normally not my thing, but she is strikingly beautiful.
[QUOTE]Batou please keep up the good work![/QUOTE]Thanks for the positive feedback!
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1749654]
Her name is Nadja.
Could you describe the service in more detail? Especially the GFE experience. Thank you.[/QUOTE]OK sure. Well since I am a bit shy and new to this scene I was a little nervous and excited. To help me overcome shyness on my part I started giving her a massage while getting to know her. We talked about where we came from and she told me her vacation plans. We had a nice easygoing but real conversation with some laughs. After she was all relaxed and feeling good and safe with me, we changed focus towards me. She stroked me caringly while laying down next to me. I sucked on her tits and fingered her clit. Her feet were even playing with my feet some. After getting me worked up, she suggested doggy and I obliged. I went in deep and was done in a couple minutes. She felt tight, but I am not 100% sure if she was using a finger to assist in making it tighter.
Afterward she smoked a cigarette, even offered one to me, and we talked some more. When she was done, we ended the session.
Later on I even saw her cuddling up on the couch outside by the pool with someone for a while. She speaks very good English and was easy for me to get along with.
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[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1749560]Bayou,
Was Ella (RUS) blondish with a round face, natural be / see cups and a little on the thicker side (but not fat)? If so I agree with your statement as I sessioned with her last night. Asked for sure and sensual and it was a great time.[/QUOTE]No, Ella is Russian and blonde, hair down to her neck, very slim, very big enhanced breasts, slight overbite, same as me so our teeth keept crashing together, more of a woman then a girl. I believe she has worked at Artemis for a long time, only saw her Wednesday and Thursday.
Just going to add a question to the regulars at Artemis here.
Why is Jolene mentioned not here, I do not think I have ever seen a report on her. This Hungarian goddess has worked there for 7 years. She has used the name Ruby in the past, is it because she quite literally is a MILF?
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1749519]You also mentioned a dark haired 'Amalia from Iran'. AFAIK Amalia is a Romanian blonde very athletic MILF so you either got the name wrong or there has been a change.[/QUOTE]Amalia is Romanian, fake tits, quite correct. But follow the tracks, Mr. Diplomat. Mr. Batou75 has layed down a notable mark. Here it is:
[QUOTE=Batou75;1749340]Amalia, and Mariella[/QUOTE]It should ring your bell, right? Maybe AMINA?
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[QUOTE=Batou75;1749675]Might be Jana, I though I heard Diana at one point but was not sure. She said she has a regular job on the outside, and only works Artemis, at holidays etc and only a few days at a time.
Amalia or Amira, no tattoos, dark hair down to her back, said she was 25, nice light brown skin, looked amazing all oiled up, smaller natural beautiful breasts. Said she has Iranian heritage, but that sounds awful close to Romanian, but raised in Germany, lives in hamburg, shares an apartment with the blond Mariella. Works 2 weeks at a time then she goes home for 2 weeks, and had worked at Artemis for 2 years, was always there at opening time, sitting at the front of the bar closest to the entrance. Was very busy, went upstairs almost constantly, even when it was slow for others.
She was blonde small tits so must be Sheenya.
Frankly the silicon breasts all the tattoos and her serious face intimidated me. Also blondes is normally not my thing, but she is strikingly beautiful.
Thanks for the positive feedback![/QUOTE]Jana is German and Diana is Romanian. Jana has new silicone boobs, Diana has natural breasts.
The German Iranian girl you met must have been Amina. Amalia and Amira are different girls. And thank you Pharisaer for your remark which is quite useful as always.
I agree with you about Nadja. To me, she is one of the most gorgeous women around in a place where we can already find many beauties.
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[QUOTE=TheSquirrel;1749677]OK sure. Well since I am a bit shy and new to this scene I was a little nervous and excited. To help me overcome shyness on my part I started giving her a massage while getting to know her. We talked about where we came from and she told me her vacation plans. We had a nice easygoing but real conversation with some laughs. After she was all relaxed and feeling good and safe with me, we changed focus towards me. She stroked me caringly while laying down next to me. I sucked on her tits and fingered her clit. Her feet were even playing with my feet some. After getting me worked up, she suggested doggy and I obliged. I went in deep and was done in a couple minutes. She felt tight, but I am not 100% sure if she was using a finger to assist in making it tighter.
Afterward she smoked a cigarette, even offered one to me, and we talked some more. When she was done, we ended the session.
Later on I even saw her cuddling up on the couch outside by the pool with someone for a while. She speaks very good English and was easy for me to get along with.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Yes you can have a great time with that girl and it looks like you did. Just because you mentioned 'GFE experience' I would add that for me, a full GFE experience would include kissing and mostly DFK. Maybe you had that or you didn't but I believe its all a matter of what words we choose to describe a good experience.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
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[QUOTE=Diplomat;1749754]Jana is German and Diana is Romanian. Jana has new silicone boobs, Diana has natural breasts.[/QUOTE]I miss worded myself here, I know Diana is another, girl. But what she said sounded like Diana, and since I knew the name from the forums, that is what my brain associated with what I heard. I think a lot of that goes around here. You read to many names on the forum and when the girls introduce them self all the similar names, or names sounds a little bit different in different languages gets associated with what you already know, same thing with Amalia, Amina, and Chyanne.
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Wednesday - 2nd visit and another great time
Well, I had one last whole day in Berlin and even though I went out of my way to visit a respected brothel in the afternoon, I couldn't keep Artemis out of mind. So I jumped on the S bahn and got there around 5 pm. Since it was my 2nd visit, I knew what to expect and had a little more confidence.
I went in with all intentions of remembering the girls names and details, but after seeing 4 girls there plus 1 earlier in the day, my man juice was completely drained and I forgot many details by the time I was able to make notes.
I'll do my best.
1st session- Jessica (said Romania, but also something about Italian) She looks more like Brazilian or some other south American. Short girl with medium length brown / reddish hair. Very fun and playful. She was nice, talkative, not shy and really wanted to please me. She was actually disappointed when she was on me cowgirl and I finished super early. Provided light kisses and looked me in the eyes while going at it. Definitely a fun and pleasing girl.
2nd session. Can't remember her name or too many physical details, probably because I had such a funny time with her. Romanian girl, I think, MILF body with nice natural cup boobies and dark hair. I don't remember any tattoos. I think she told me she's worked there for 6 years. To me she looks a little Persian, but I can be totally wrong. She comes by my table and brings me watermelon and scarfs down her food quickly which was impressive on its own. We sit and chat and even though I was eyeballing some other girls, she was so friendly and goofy that I could not pass. On the to taking me to one of the poolside rooms, she plays a joke on one of the Asian guests and says "boo" to try and startle him from behind. She said that she likes to do that to the Asians. In the bedroom, she is funny, silly and a little nutty, but in a good way. We clicked and I felt very comfortable with her. She was very eager to please and a good companion if you like to have fun and be a little zany.
3rd session. Linda. A taller, girl next door type from Slovakia. She wore glasses in the club, but I think they were for show. Worked for me! Longer natural blonde with natural be cups. Was super sweet to me but didn't speak English too well. She would be the type I would date. Good service but my equipment was having malfunctions so I couldn't finish. But as she was so sweet and warm, I was actually content just snuggling with her. It started to rain hard and it was quite romantic. I asked to extend to 1 he but she said that she had to go as her shift was done. She said she doesn't work all the time, just occasionally.
At this time it was 1 am and I figured I was done. Took a nap on the couch at the bottom of the stairs. A few of my previous girls came by to check on me and see if I wanted more. I had to decline, because I really thought I was done. One girl I was with last Sunday found me and remembered me. (Tall skinny blonde).
4th girl. I think Jolene? 25 from Hungary. Shorter girl with copper tan skin, dark hair and a nice toned body. She was able to convince me to go at 4 am as I thought, "this is my last day here, why not. " I warned her that I didn't think I had enough power to get it up or release, but she proved me wrong. She bounced in my lap so well and had super good technique for cowgirl. She also has very good conversational English skills and is down to earth. Told me that she doesn't work all the time, just a few weeks here and there. She is very clean with her work area, which I greatly respect. She had hand sanitizer and baby wipes for pre and post session. Very lovely girl that I respect and recommend highly.
Well not sure if I'm coming back to Berlin soon, perhaps in the next few weeks. If I do though, I know that it will be futile to resist all the beautiful and personable girls at Artemis.
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[QUOTE=TheSquirrel;1750599]4th girl. I think Jolene? 25 from Hungary. Shorter girl with copper tan skin, dark hair and a nice toned body. She was able to convince me to go at 4 am[/QUOTE]Does not sound like the Jolene I have had the pleasure to meet. She is older than 25, not short, and not a teenager body anymore, also she works from 11 am to 8 pm, do not like the night time scene.
Though by this point I think the Jolene I know is a imaginary as no one else has confirmed that she exists. LOL.
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[QUOTE=TheSquirrel;1750599].....
2nd session. Can't remember her name or too many physical details, probably because I had such a funny time with her. Romanian girl, I think, MILF body with nice natural cup boobies and dark hair. I don't remember any tattoos. I think she told me she's worked there for 6 years. To me she looks a little Persian, but I can be totally wrong. She comes by my table and brings me watermelon and scarfs down her food quickly which was impressive on its own. We sit and chat and even though I was eyeballing some other girls, she was so friendly and goofy that I could not pass. On the to taking me to one of the poolside rooms, she plays a joke on one of the Asian guests and says "boo" to try and startle him from behind. She said that she likes to do that to the Asians. In the bedroom, she is funny, silly and a little nutty, but in a good way. We clicked and I felt very comfortable with her. She was very eager to please and a good companion if you like to have fun and be a little zany.[/QUOTE]I would be (very) surprised if it isn't Solida you met!
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[QUOTE=BlueSwede;1750778]I would be (very) surprised if it isn't Solida you met![/QUOTE]I think you're absolutely correct. That name rings a bell to me now.
I'm in Frankfurt now and before artemis, I thought the some girls in the laufhaus places were good and fun. Now I realize how much better an experience can be when the girl is motivated to make you a repeat customer. There are a very few really hot girls here, but I think that once they get you in the door and your pants down they loose motivation to please.
Should I make a day trip to one of the FKK's around here?
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[QUOTE=Batou75;1750767]Though by this point I think the Jolene I know is a imaginary as no one else has confirmed that she exists. LOL.[/QUOTE]The Hungarian Joleen / Jolene you know exists. I confirm that. Remember, that's her third nom de plume in Artemis.
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Ina / Malek present?
[QUOTE=PeterB;1748829]Hey,
I'm really into these 2 girls. Are they both active in Artemis for the moment? Any of them?[/QUOTE]Anyone knows if they are there? Then I'm likely to go soon.
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[QUOTE=TheSquirrel;1750599]4th girl. I think Jolene? 25 from Hungary. Shorter girl with copper tan skin, dark hair and a nice toned body. She was able to convince me to go at 4 am as I thought, "this is my last day here, why not. " I warned her that I didn't think I had enough power to get it up or release, but she proved me wrong. She bounced in my lap so well and had super good technique for cowgirl. She also has very good conversational English skills and is down to earth. Told me that she doesn't work all the time, just a few weeks here and there. She is very clean with her work area, which I greatly respect. She had hand sanitizer and baby wipes for pre and post session. Very lovely girl that I respect and recommend highly.Well not sure if I'm coming back to Berlin soon, perhaps in the next few weeks. If I do though, I know that it will be futile to resist all the beautiful and personable girls at Artemis.[/QUOTE]Jolene or Joleen who I knew years ago as 'Evelyn' says she is Hungarian (which could be correct ofc) but I don't believe anyone would believe her to be a 25 year old girl. She is clearly a MILF and if she says she is 25 then be sure she has been that age for a few years now.
Maybe it was Laureen. The name may sound similar to the Joleen, she is Hungarian, dark hair and her age is much closer to 25 than Joleen's. At least the description fits her. She does not have a hard body she is more on the feminine side but I love her amazing eyes. And she is a skilled conversationist too.
Artemis girls names make me crazy.
They should carry business cards in their handbags so that you can remember their names. Nerdy but practical and much more efficient than the guessing game.
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Loreen, Hungarian, looks 10, performance 10.
Wow! I have not engaged her before because she seemed so cold. I could not have been more wrong. Her face is absolutely stunning and her body is aswell. In the room she is relaxed and quite the lover. She is also relaxed when you meet her in the bar och lounge. If you are at the Artemis, do catch her. I have been going for five years and she is without competition the best girl still active.
Xenia, Moroccan / German, looks 10, performance 2.
Xenia is a nice girl. She has a pistol tattoo on her hip. In the room she is like a robot. Very pleasant and kind but not my type since I need a good performer. Definitely an opti-flic.
Sarah, Spain, looks 10, performance 10.
Could not ask for more in the room but afterwards I found out from the other girls that she trash-talked me because I did not give her tip. A real *****.
Alev (Turkish): Did approach my friend sometimes and when he politely said no she called him motherfucker and other nasty things. She is a ***** and should not be allowed to work there.
Amira (Morrocan): Same as Alev. Rude as fuck and a total *****. Should not be allowed to work at Artemis.
The reception: Very good and kind.
The bar downstaris: Excellent.
The bar upstairs: Clueless.
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1751385]
Xenia, Moroccan / German, looks 10, performance 2.
Xenia is a nice girl. She has a pistol tattoo on her hip. In the room she is like a robot. Very pleasant and kind but not my type since I need a good performer. Definitely an opti-flic.
[/QUOTE]The beautiful German Moroccan girl who is approx. 5 ft. 8 inches tall, light dark skin, has medium size silicone boobs and a few tattoos is called Sina or Zina.
Xenia is someone else and the real Xenia has also been described on here a few times already.
It may sound similar but please guys try to get the correct names. I am not trying to be picky here but let them spell their names and take a note immediately after you paid them. Not being precise about the names makes the search function and much of the information on here a mess confusing people.
Some people put a lot of effort in these reports and I love reading and sometimes writing those but we all have to remember that even basic things like the girls name are wrong a lot of the times in these reports. Remembering this fact is quite important especially for those who try to make a science out of it, putting together lists of the girls etc.
The other names Simon Rex has mentioned seem to be correct. I also found Simons report useful but I personally wouldn't give so many girls a 10 for their looks. I know its highly subjective, but for me only a few girls at Artemis would get a 9 or a 10 if 10 is the maximum. Not against you personally Simon.
Have fun.
Diplomat.
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Excited to visit but I have questions
I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
B. What is the policy for alcoholic drinks? I think I read one post that said you are only allowed three alcoholic drinks. I'm not looking to get rip-roaring drunk but would like to know.
What the restrictions are.
Thank you. I'll post my report soon!
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[QUOTE=Trizen;1751790]I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
[/QUOTE]Without starting a debate on tips since everybody can do what they want with their money, my opinion is that tips cannot be expected per se and if you want you can avoid tipping. Personally I would (in case) only tip if the service is very good and by very good I mean a complete GFE. But don't feel guilty or something for not tipping. I received requests for tipping after mediocre services. My answer was prrrr!
At Simon Rex or others that know: As for Laureen/Loreen from Hungary, anybody knows when she starts working, for example afternoon or evening?
Cheers.
Buck.
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[QUOTE=Trizen;1751790]I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
B. What is the policy for alcoholic drinks? I think I read one post that said you are only allowed three alcoholic drinks. I'm not looking to get rip-roaring drunk but would like to know.
What the restrictions are.
Thank you. I'll post my report soon![/QUOTE]That's an interesting question I'd like to know others opinions.
I think that like for every tip it's matter on how much you are satisfied and if you are going to meet the same girl soon but some may consider the CIM a sort tip from the "base" service.
I usually do not ask for the change back and I never gave less the 20 E as tip and also I've gave 100 E for 30 min to the good ones.
About the alcohol never heard of any restrictions until you pay the tokens for the drinks (and none will ask you how many you had) and for what I've seen you have to be very drunk before to be stopped.
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Tipping and drinking advice and policy
[QUOTE=FMoreau;1751911]That's an interesting question I'd like to know others opinions.
I think that like for every tip it's matter on how much you are satisfied and if you are going to meet the same girl soon but some may consider the CIM a sort tip from the "base" service.
I usually do not ask for the change back and I never gave less the 20 E as tip and also I've gave 100 E for 30 min to the good ones.
About the alcohol never heard of any restrictions until you pay the tokens for the drinks (and none will ask you how many you had) and for what I've seen you have to be very drunk before to be stopped.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's great information. Thanks to you and Buck Rogers as well.
I was not referring to the CIM type of tip. I'm thinking about whether to offer an extra amount after she is fully paid for the time and extras. Sounds like 20 euros is a good start.
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[QUOTE=FMoreau;1751911]I usually do not ask for the change back and I never gave less the 20 E as tip and also I've gave 100 E for 30 min to the good ones.[/QUOTE]Hi all,
Please do not give tips for a regular service. We, the guys from Berlin, hate it when foreigners do that, it's not good for the ratio of service and rate.
If the service is okay, give her 60 Euro for the 30 Minutes. If it was really very good, give her 10 Euro extra. But not more.
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[QUOTE=BuckRogers;1751910]At Simon Rex or others that know: As for Laureen/Loreen from Hungary, anybody knows when she starts working, for example afternoon or evening?[/QUOTE]She told me she usually start at 7 pm and stay until 5 am.
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[QUOTE=Karat;1752093]Hi all,
Please do not give tips for a regular service. We, the guys from Berlin, hate it when foreigners do that, it's not good for the ratio of service and rate. [/QUOTE]
I agree. Staying longer than 30 minutes is tip enough. Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. Even Sasha was grumpy. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.
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Petite
Hi,
Going to Artemis next weekend, are there any petite girls there (spinner type girls) recommended one also like sloppy blowjob so anybody recommend the best blowjob at Artemis thanks.
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1752335]I agree. Staying longer than 30 minutes is tip enough. Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. Even Sasha was grumpy. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.[/QUOTE]I was bit surprised that you were trash talked by a girl for not giving her tip (referring to your earlier post). I am no expert when it comes to FKK scene (only had 25-30 sessions in Artemis so far) but this is the first time I heard something like this (guess I am trash talked a lot then).
I agree that the Artemis seems worse than it was. As I said, I don't have massive experience with the place, I have only been there on three occasions (December last year, April and last week). Could be that the place has lost its novelty to me too.
Last week I saw a girl getting irritated when she was ignored by a punter on his way to the cantina (which by the way was full of flies. Not nice.). Despite the guy obviously not being interested in a session (and giving the proper signals), she screamed "Hello,. Helloooo! After him. Fortunately for me as I was interested in trying her out but this made me save my money.
Talked to the guy I mentioned above later on and he pointed me to a wonderful Colombian lady instead (Lorena?) which normally would not be my choice. Fantastic service (proper massage followed by sex) - will definitely repeat. Unfortunately she will be away next two weeks.
Tried also a girl named Simeona (Simona? Unsure about her name) - session was OK, but did not leave any lasting expression. May repeat if no other option available.
For those that are fans of the glorious Jenna (which should be tried out if you are noob like me, regardless of what your preferences are) - she is away from Artemis until the August 30th.
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[QUOTE=VaeVictis;1752358]
Talked to the guy I mentioned above later on and he pointed me to a wonderful Colombian lady instead (Lorena?) which normally would not be my choice. Fantastic service (proper massage followed by sex) - will definitely repeat. Unfortunately she will be away next two weeks.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like Valentina. I met her in April, and I am inclined to agree about the service. Great body-to-body massage, and good sex. What I didn't like was her insistence, as soon as we were in the room, to go for her "special program". She did not seem at all interested in giving good service for a standard 30 minute vanilla session, I "had to at least" go for her 40 minute /100 Euro. Now, as I said, her service was good. And she is hot, as well as interesting to talk to (athletic stories, too). But I guess I shouldn't have accepted her special terms, as this practise can pervert the pricing structure in Artemis, if it continues / spreads. My bad. . .
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Call out to Art regulars.
[QUOTE=SimonRex;1752335] Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.[/QUOTE]Art is getting some negative reviews. And nothing wrong with that as it's what the forum is all about. Sharing experiences. I do think the club suffers from the lack of competition. It is clear that in NRW and Hessen the competition maintains quality in the clubs. When one starts to dip and numbers go down, they always seem to do something to get it back there. No such issue for the management at Art. The threatened new FKK in Potsdam appears to have bitten the dust. I have no idea if the management at Artemis read this forum. If they do the following should be noted: 80 is too expensive as entry. It is THE most expensive in Germany so far as I know. The food needs to improve. The massage area should be private and not on beds by the pool and bar. Stop the silly drink tokens and get one of the FOB systems used in Sharks where you run a tab and pay at the end instead of having to carry tokens in your robe. Get some themed rooms like in Sharks. A domination room, all mirrored room, and a VIP suite (I believe they have these on the roof area but I've never been up there). Some beers should be free. As in World and LR in NRW. Finally. Get the message to the girls about sharky behaviour. Wanting to charge extra for literally everything other than suck and fuck.
Recently (June) compared Artemis with Oase, Sharks and World. See long post: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1737540&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1737540.
I then rated Artemis above all of these clubs (having visited them all in one week). This was only 10 weeks ago! Whilst my above criticisms are things I'd love to see improve, the truth is that the club has several features that beat other clubs. A great gym. I know you don't go there for that but it's a nice way to relax in between sessions, the hammam, the food is sometimes good, the outdoor area is ok in summer, and the girls I did session with were better than the LU in Frankfurt clubs even if there are 100+ in Sharks and Oase. So it's not all bad at Art!
Now. If you are a regular at the Club (Diplomat / Rocketboy and others) is there no possibility that perhaps you bring some of the concerns to the attention of the management for the benefit of the Club and its users? You would be doing them, and the mongers, a big favour. I do know that this happened at one of the NRW clubs and service did quickly improve and some ideas taken on board.
In terms of LU. And I know everyone's taste differs, could the regulars to Art list maybe the 5 most popular girls in their opinion and how to recognise them as well as names, and maybe tell the rest of us which girls are due to be away during summer? Disappointing to know Lorena is away for 2 weeks as I'm back in the Club weekend of 7/8 August.
I think a number of guys would appreciate a current review of the girls and who is leaving for summer from the regulars. Hope you can help us out guys!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1752427]A Stop the silly drink tokens and get one of the FOB systems used in Sharks where you run a tab and pay at the end instead of having to carry tokens in your robe. [/QUOTE]Yeah totally agree its stupid to buy drink tokens and 10 E for a beer is way too expensive. I still haven't had a beer at Sharks but 6 E is much more reasonable 5 E sure would boost sales and the system is so much convenient.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1752427]Art is getting some negative reviews. And nothing wrong with that as it's what the forum is all about. Sharing experiences. I do think the club suffers from the lack of competition. It is clear that in NRW and Hessen the competition maintains quality in the clubs. When one starts to dip and numbers go down, they always seem to do something to get it back there. No such issue for the management at Art. The threatened new FKK in Potsdam appears to have bitten the dust. I have no idea if the management at Artemis read this forum. If they do the following should be noted: 80 is too expensive as entry. It is THE most expensive in Germany so far as I know. The food needs to improve. The massage area should be private and not on beds by the pool and bar. Stop the silly drink tokens and get one of the FOB systems used in Sharks where you run a tab and pay at the end instead of having to carry tokens in your robe. Get some themed rooms like in Sharks. A domination room, all mirrored room, and a VIP suite (I believe they have these on the roof area but I've never been up there). Some beers should be free. As in World and LR in NRW. Finally. Get the message to the girls about sharky behaviour. Wanting to charge extra for literally everything other than suck and fuck.
Recently (June) compared Artemis with Oase, Sharks and World. See long post: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1737540&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1737540.
I then rated Artemis above all of these clubs (having visited them all in one week). This was only 10 weeks ago! Whilst my above criticisms are things I'd love to see improve, the truth is that the club has several features that beat other clubs. A great gym. I know you don't go there for that but it's a nice way to relax in between sessions, the hammam, the food is sometimes good, the outdoor area is ok in summer, and the girls I did session with were better than the LU in Frankfurt clubs even if there are 100+ in Sharks and Oase. So it's not all bad at Art!
Now. If you are a regular at the Club (Diplomat / Rocketboy and others) is there no possibility that perhaps you bring some of the concerns to the attention of the management for the benefit of the Club and its users? You would be doing them, and the mongers, a big favour. I do know that this happened at one of the NRW clubs and service did quickly improve and some ideas taken on board.[/QUOTE]Well "the food is sometimes good" kind of covers what I think about the food. Early in the morning it is OK (motel standard), while lunch mostly sucks and I suspect that food that remains after the day is over is being "reused" for next days lunch. I ate two times at artemis (and both times felt unwell in stomach afterwords) and then followed kind advice from fellow punters and went out to the nearby restaurants and fast food places. Remember that you can leave your locker key with reception and return later without paying entrance once again (don't remove the colored plastic ribbon ofc).
While I have no complaints regarding lineup (since I have nothing to compare it to) - it seems all body types are present, it really irks me that the website is kind of worthless. You got plenty pictures of girls that are not really that great in many cases and where the girl is no longer working in Artemis. I don't know what system they got in Artemis now regarding the pool of girls but I believe that they could make a system where you can see which girl is present or not. For example, many brothels operate with schedule systems where you can see when a certain girl is onsite or on vacation.
[QUOTE=Ravein2;1752426]Sounds like Valentina. I met her in April, and I am inclined to agree about the service. Great body-to-body massage, and good sex. What I didn't like was her insistence, as soon as we were in the room, to go for her "special program". She did not seem at all interested in giving good service for a standard 30 minute vanilla session, I "had to at least" go for her 40 minute /100 Euro. Now, as I said, her service was good. And she is hot, as well as interesting to talk to (athletic stories, too). But I guess I shouldn't have accepted her special terms, as this practise can pervert the pricing structure in Artemis, if it continues / spreads. My bad. . .[/QUOTE]Valentina? I would have remembered that name. The lady in question is late 30's, early 40's. When I first saw her I though she was from Asia. Great body with silicone boobs (nicely done). With high heels 170 cm of height.
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How to make sure we're all play by the same set of rules?
I will be visiting Berlin and would like to visit Artemis but I have heard both good and bad reports about the place.
I have hesitations about going to a place as I will surely (most likely) be seen as a:
•*Novice to the FKK scene.
•*Foreigner.
Both of which I am.
I have read on these forums that you want to talk with the girl beforehand. Make sure we're all play by the same set of rules and agreed upon service.
But then walking into the room you get a different story etc.*etc.*etc.*.
One can only get so much advice from these forums before you have enter yourself.
How does one who is completely new to this not get completely taken advantage of?
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Rookie
[QUOTE=CDNTraveler;1752509]I will be visiting Berlin and would like to visit Artemis but I have heard both good and bad reports about the place.
I have hesitations about going to a place as I will surely (most likely) be seen as a:
*Novice to the FKK scene.
*Foreigner.
Both of which I am.
I have read on these forums that you want to talk with the girl beforehand. Make sure we're all play by the same set of rules and agreed upon service.
But then walking into the room you get a different story etc.*etc.*etc.*.
One can only get so much advice from these forums before you have enter yourself.
How does one who is completely new to this not get completely taken advantage of?[/QUOTE]Hello CDNTraveler.
I remember my first time at Artemis. I walked in, got changed and then went to the bar for a drink. I picked a seat far away from the bar and watched the girls approach me. Then I took my time to chat each one up as they sat on the couch beside me. Many will jump right on your lap and reach in your robe and fish for your member. The girls that are the most impatient and want to sell you a good time, you probably want to avoid on the first go round. Don't worry. Take mental notes of her and ask for her name. She will come back. That I promise. Many girls will even come to you in pairs and sell you a threesome. If you play it cool, you will be fine. However, if you walk around and look like you haven't been laid in months, then they can upsell you whatever they are selling and you will pay dearly with poor service. Before my fist trip to Artemis, I had made several tours to Prague and other cities. I was not going in uninitiated.
About Artemis. I used to visit annually, but I have noticed that the looks and the quality of the girls had gone down, compared to Frankfurt clubs. That is just my opinion and personal preference. However, I am also reading reports that there are new girls there now. Artemis has no immediate FKK competition, so therefore the girls can get away with a bit more. The last time I was there I found only a handful of girls who were worth taking upstairs to the rooms. Many others were hounding me, thinking I am still a rookie at this game. Of course you are the paying customer, so you should call all the shots. The bar area is the place to observe the girls. Another good place is the spiral staircase. Stand there, and watch for the facial expression of other men as they take the girls to the money locker. If they look pissed, then don't pick that girl. If they look extremely satisfied, make a note of that girl and choose her later. I like going to Artemis to collect flags. There should be many countries represented there. Take the time and find out where each girl is from. Romanians will often represent themselves as Greeks or Italians. Learn to speak a few words in Romanian and test them. It is fun, believe me.
Read the reports on this forum and report the girls that you like. That helps everybody out. If you are daring, sit in one of the kinos (porno movie rooms). The girls will walk right up to you and start giving you the BBBJ. It is a public place, so it may be too much for a first-timer such as yourself. However, you can sit in there and observe. That is part of the fun. Now if you want to avoid the cigarette smoke and the aggressive girls, you can hide in the dining room or downstairs by the pool and saunas. There is a full service bar downstairs too. Often times you need an area of refuge. Last bit of advice. If a girl attempts to cheat you, don't be afraid to take her to speak to the manager at the front desk. Fortunately for me, I have never had to. If you pre-screen the girls properly, much like her having to apply for a job and you're the boss, then I think you will be fine.
Good luck!
FiddyCent.
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As of late spring 2015
The majority of the girls were honest performers. They are probably suffering from the behaviour initiated by the bad apples. After all, the crew of Artemis show no interest in cleaning up this mess, the ladies in the reception have a superficial approach to the subject, by the time you are about to leave the place asking costumers "are you ok?" with lack of interest in their eyes and voice. I think it is the task for this board to identify the poisonous from the good ones.
I have a break from the place, probably due to extensive number of visits and overfucking. Just one time during those five years have a met a girl with her own alternative price list;.
Simai GER / TUR 25 years, 160 cm, thin, teenage body, long black hair, looks more latino than ottoman.
Kissing + 50.
Rimming her + 50.
Fingering her ass + 50 (no discount, rimming, fingering and fucking her back door 200 E).
Also demanding tip several times during the session.
In the locker area I paid her 50 cent as a tip. I will never forget her fascial expression.
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Thanks! What about a watch
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1752518]Hello CDNTraveler.
Read the reports on this forum and report the girls that you like. That helps everybody out. If you are daring, sit in one of the kinos (porno movie rooms). The girls will walk right up to you and start giving you the BBBJ. It is a public place, so it may be too much for a first-timer such as yourself. However, you can sit in there and observe. That is part of the fun. Now if you want to avoid the cigarette smoke and the aggressive girls, you can hide in the dining room or downstairs by the pool and saunas. There is a full service bar downstairs too. Often times you need an area of refuge. Last bit of advice. If a girl attempts to cheat you, don't be afraid to take her to speak to the manager at the front desk. Fortunately for me, I have never had to. If you pre-screen the girls properly, much like her having to apply for a job and you're the boss, then I think you will be fine.
Good luck!
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Thanks Fiddy Cent for the info in general. I was also wondering if wearing a watch and checking the time before a session? Or is this frowned upon?
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[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1752698]Simai GER / TUR 25 years, 160 cm, thin, teenage body, long black hair, looks more latino than ottoman.[/QUOTE]Her looks sounds familiar but not her name. Which girls does she hang out with?
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1753301]Her looks sounds familiar but not her name. Which girls does she hang out with?[/QUOTE]If that is the girl I think Zimmerbaby refers to, she has a boob job (very easy to see) and during the last week she was often with GER blonde Madeleine and they sat by the bar chairs that are immediately visible when you enter the place.
And while we are mentioning Madeline (GER, blonde, natural boobs, tattoo that looks like latin writing), a german punter recommended her (and I do love next door girl blondes) but I never got the chance to try her out. I left her for later while I tried out a certain Colombian lady but later on she was busy.
Anyone tried her out? I can't seem to find reviews on her and my budget is too tight to waste it on mediocre performance.
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1753301]Her looks sounds familiar but not her name. Which girls does she hang out with?[/QUOTE]Think she is a lonely wolf / shark. Imagine the turkish Nelly Furtado.
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[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1753372]Think she is a lonely wolf / shark. Imagine the turkish Nelly Furtado.[/QUOTE]Simai / Simei a loney shark? I don't think so. Usually sitting at the left side of the bar (seen from the main entrance). Note: recently fake tits.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1753377]Note: recently fake tits.[/QUOTE]Disaster. I am the opposite of king Midas. Everything I touch becomes shit. Hopefully Turkey will never get membership in the EU.
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Artemis visit
Thanks for all of the information in this post. I visited Artemis last August and enjoyed myself. I agree the hard sell os off putting but that's life.
Anyway what I wanted to ask was this: compared to last year is Artemis that much worse. Is it better to go elsewhere these days.
Thanks for your opinion.
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Timekeeper
[QUOTE=CDNTraveler;1753018]Thanks Fiddy Cent for the info in general. I was also wondering if wearing a watch and checking the time before a session? Or is this frowned upon?[/QUOTE]Hey CDNTraveler.
I wear a watch, but take it off in the room and leave it on the counter. I peek at it, but often times I won't even look at it when the session ends. After a good session, I won't even care if it is +/- 5 minutes. Some girls will spend free time with you in the room and not charge you. Sometimes, you get free couch / kino time too. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter. The girls that are in the biggest rush to get you into a room or try to get you to finish quickly are the ones that you need to avoid. Play it cool, even if she short changes you 5 minutes. If you had a good session, would you hold it against her? I think not. Better to build a good rapport. You may want to repeat with her later. I usually like to do 30 min first sessions and repeat for 1 hour sessions. Sometimes, if the flow is nice, I will extend a 30 min into a full hour on the spot, even if I know full well the first 30 minutes had not expired.
On the flip side, if you get time pressured to finish, then make her aware of the start time in the room and end the session to cut your losses. If the girl does not deliver what she promised right off the bat, you will know within the firs 5 minutes of the session. As I have mentioned before, I have never had to March a girl to the front desk to issue a challenge. The most you will lose is 60 Euros at this point. Better that than having a girl drag you down and ruin your night.
Have fun brother!
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1753377]Simai / Simei a loney shark? I don't think so. Usually sitting at the left side of the bar (seen from the main entrance). Note: recently fake tits.[/QUOTE]Does she have a half sleeve tattoo on her left arm?
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Artemis visit
[QUOTE=Trizen;1751790]I'm a newbie to Artemis and have been reading the posts here for several months. I have two questions:
A. How much do the girls expect to be tipped after each session? Is 20 euros the right amount? I would hate to have a nice time and then be berated for insufficient tip.
B. What is the policy for alcoholic drinks? I think I read one post that said you are only allowed three alcoholic drinks. I'm not looking to get rip-roaring drunk but would like to know.
What the restrictions are.
Thank you. I'll post my report soon![/QUOTE]As for me I always give tip to the girls, 60 euro is not much and I think you always should give some extra, it depends, sometimes 20 euro ekstra or all together 100 euro for half an hour.
But not less than 80 euro.
You can buy a ticket for alcoholic drinks in the reception.
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Report #1 from American newbie
It is finally time for Trizen, the American newbie to post my first report. I was getting worried after all the bad talk on this forum about Artemis but I am happy to say that my visit was absolutely wonderful.
Having said that, the information I learned on this forum was very valuable in making sure that I had a good night. Thanks to all the admins and regular contributors. You are all doing a great job. So here's my contribution to the cause.
I arrived on a Wednesday (yesterday) at about 8:30 pm and paid the door price (80 euros). I deposited my money in the safety box and got undressed and showered. There is a door straight from the men's locker room to the lounge, which is great. It feels very surreal to walk from the brightly lit locker room into the dark lounge with music booming.
Yes, the lounge is smoky but I really didn't mind it. I live in the USA, and my state has outlawed smoking in bars for years now, so I thought I might hate the smoke. But the filtration system must be excellent, because it didn't get to me at all. Maybe my mind was focusing on other things?
It was Wednesday, so it was lingerie night. I shouldn't call it that because only two girls were actually wearing lingerie, the rest had various forms of slutty bikinis. It was fantastic. I specifically picked Wednesday as my first day so I could come back later and see all the girls naked my next trip.
The first girl I interacted with was at the bar. Maya from Budapest, Hungary was sitting by herself at the bar and I walked up to order a drink. I gave the token to the bartender and Maya asked me to sit beside her. But I heard the powerful voices from this forum in my head "Don't go with the first girl you meet!" This was very difficult because Maya is a beauty. Short in stature, long, curly black hair, tan complexion, beautiful dark features. I mean she was totally my type. But I didn't sit there. It turned out pretty well because she didn't pester me and hard-sell or anything, just accepted. Hmmm, that's a good sign for Maya.
I walked over to the other side of the lounge and just stood for a while by one of the pillars. Here I found the sharks. One girl from Poland absolutely insisted that we go to the room right now. "I am hot and horny for you. We go now. You need Polish blow job. "Well, quite frankly this wasn't a turn on at all, no matter how beautiful she was. And she was gorgeous, but come on, I'm not falling for this. After I shooed her away the next 2-3 sharks came to me in quick succession. This was getting pretty easy. I can say no to a beautiful woman. In fact, I kinda enjoy it!
I convince myself to have a second beer to calm my nerves a bit before I venture upstairs with anyone. I notice Maya comes over to me again and asks about upstairs. I ask her to sit with me for a few minutes. She says yes. Another good sign. We talk for a while laying on one of the beds and I ask her about DFK. No, she says. No kissing at all. Hmm, that's not what I wanted to hear. Okay, so she has accepted defeat and we part ways. I do my walking-around thing, going from the spiral staircase to see the expressions of the guys coming down from the rooms (See! I read the forums! Then outside to the pool area to cool off, then back into the lounge to stare at eye-candy again. God, I'm loving this and I haven't even been with anyone yet.
I do this a few more times, including a walk past the fuck-rooms near the outdoor pool. I hear a girl howling. Nice! Back in the lounge again, I see Maya once more. It seems like she disappears and reappears (more on that later). She walks up to me while I'm talking to a German guy. He and I met in the locker room and he was asking my advice. I told him it was my first time but he had absolutely no clue so I told him what I had learned on the forums. Avoid sharks. Don't go with the first girl. By this time I've decided, kiss or no kiss, I'm going upstairs with Maya. As she is walking over I'm getting more excited. I introduce Maya to the German guy to be polite and she introduces us both to a lovely blond girl. Maya suggests that she go with the German guy and this blond girl can have me, because she will kiss. So here Maya has gone to find a girl that will be good for me. Another point for Maya. The way she says it, it sounds like she is suggesting a foursome, and the German guy and I both shake our heads and say "No No No. "But she isn't suggesting that. At this point, I tell Maya that she is the one that I want. I pull her aside and the blond girl disappears. I probably made the blond girl feel bad. So here I am, avid forum reader, going with the first girl I met. Shame on me!!
Maya and I head upstairs and the rooms are all busy. Crazy! A Wednesday night and there is a traffic jam of sex! We wait for a few minutes and learn more about each other. I won't tell you her life story but it is interesting to hear. I book an hour with CIM. We get into our room and it is a wonderful feeling. I'll say it. It felt romantic. When she took off her top I saw that her breasts, although very small, were just perfect. Lovely dark, small nipples that stood out a bit. Really nice. She took out the disinfectant and said "I need to clean my cock. It is no longer your cock, it is now mine. "Her English is very good too but with a gorgeous Magyar accent.
We started with BBBJ, which was wonderful. She is very talented. She said she had been with twenty guys already that day, which was pretty normal for her. I think with her shocking good looks and nice disposition, she probably makes a ton of money. But our session didn't feel mechanical or tired. She was caring and would speed up and slow down. She made me crazy (in a good way). I enjoyed my time with Maya. She did upsell me with the CIM before we got into the room, but I was a pretty easy sell on that one.
Maya is easily a 10 in looks and at least an 7 in performance. Since she had had so many guys by that time (10 pm maybe) her nipples were very sore and we didn't actually fuck; didn't need to. Plus she was probably sore down there too. To me this was not shark behavior though, I was perfectly happy with BBBJCIM. We talked about the other girls who rush or try to charge for every little thing. She joked "I suck one ball - 50 euros. Second ball - 50 more. " I was glad that Maya was honest about the kissing policy while we were talking in the lounge. Even to the point where she thought she might lose the deal.
Okay, so finished up with Maya, I wandered down to the bottom level to see what was there. I visited the WC on that level and walked out to see two girls were giggling at me. They informed me that I had gone into the ladies WC. Man, I was disoriented after my session with Maya! I had a good laugh too. Upstairs to get some food, which was quite good. I sat at a table with two sullen looking Romanian girls. Maybe their English was not very good, but they weren't very talkative, except to each other. Lovely to look at, though.
After eating, back to the lounge. I needed at least an hour to recover from Maya. But after that hour I encountered Adina, a German girl. Short, curly blond hair, really big boobs, super friendly. She had been joking around with the other girls on a couch next to the stage / podium. I actually slow danced with her for a few minutes in the lounge. I think she liked it and her coworkers were giving her a hard time. I decided to take Adina to the room for an hour. Wow! Adina is really nice. Her breasts uncovered are something to behold. Perfection. I was again glad that my first visit was on a Wednesday. Getting the "big reveal" is especially nice. However, on my next trip, I'm sure I will enjoy the volumes of nudity in the lounge. Back to Adina. So she took off her clothes, disinfected me (shouldn't be a turn-on, but it is), then got busy with BBBJ. Very talented girl. Then after a few minutes, she mounted me and we had fun that way. Wow, she is a fantastic girl. Adina tried valiantly to get me off but it didn't happen. Maybe too much beer or maybe Maya had completely drained me.
I loved spending time with Adina. Adina is from Mannheim in Germany. Unfortunately, she is going on holiday for a few weeks starting tomorrow so I will not see her on my return visit (s). I'd give Adina a 9 in looks and a 9 in performance. What a great girl. Giggles a lot and has a great sense of humor.
Maya and Adina both said they prefer older men to younger. They might have been saying that because I'm older but it does make sense. Young guys want to pound pussy while older guys get tired and want to snuggle. I had a great time with both of them.
Some other notes (sorry this is getting so long). I had a couple of great interactions with the guys at the club. Like I said, a couple of Germans were asking for advice, which I offered. Simple things if you had been reading the forum posts here. I also met a couple of older guys from Pakistan at the security lockers. They were clueless about the place. I told them everything I knew. They loved it. I even introduced them to some girls who I thought would be good. Maya was gone by that time, but I introduced the one guy to a Moldovan girl I met (Dadia) who was really beautiful and had been hitting on me several times. They went upstairs and everyone seemed happy. The other guy was a bit more shy. I resolved to find him a girl and suddenly a gorgeous Spanish girl came up to me and started her pitch. I redirected her to my new friend and he seemed very happy. They went upstairs and another success. I'm an Artemis matchmaker for god's sake. For some reason the girls were often swarming around me. Maybe being American or whatever. I don't know. The Pakistani guys loved it. "Look! He's like a god!" Yeah, but even gods must bring cash.
I had a fantastic time at Artemis. Yes, you need to avoid the sharks. If she rushes you in the lounge, she will rush you upstairs. Plus, you get the bonus of turning down a beautiful woman for sex. How fun is that?? Not something that I get to do in real life, that's for sure. I looked for girls who were okay with being rejected, who didn't keep pushing, pushing (like Maya). I also looked for girls who seemed to be having a fun time with the other girls rather than sharking around the place (like Adina).
To summarize, Maya from Budapest, Hungary, 32 years old (but looks 22) - 10/ looks, 7/ performance. Adina from Mannheim, Germany, 23 years old - 9/ looks 9/ performance. I would repeat with either of them.
My lessons learned. 1) Don't drink too much beer. I think I will limit myself to two next night. Brewer's droop and all that. Non-alcoholic drinks are free and the 10 euros per beer can eat away at your cash pile. 2) Don't be afraid to talk to the other guys. Yes, the whole reason we are there is to fuck girls, but during the resting times you might as well talk to the other punters. 3) I'm going to try the porn room next time. It looked like fun. 4) Walk a lot, especially outside. It was a perfectly cool night so I was able to cool down after getting too overheated looking at gorgeous women. Plus you get to interact with the girls while walking by instead of being trapped if you're sitting. Several girls grabbed my ass or would brush up against me while walking past. So frickin' hot. 5) Spending time with a naked woman in private is the best part. I don't need to pop every session. Consider the whole night to be one long sex session. The girls certainly don't care. They just want the money, after all. 6) I'm going to try one of the fuck rooms by the outdoor pool next time.
Thanks again for all the info on the forums. You helped me have the greatest night. Well, until tomorrow's report.
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[QUOTE=Septimus1974;1753777]As for me I always give tip to the girls, 60 euro is not much and I think you always should give some extra, it depends, sometimes 20 euro ekstra or all together 100 euro for half an hour.
But not less than 80 euro.
You can buy a ticket for alcoholic drinks in the reception.[/QUOTE]Come on guys, do not behave like jerks, why would you let them poor sweethearts deal with the lousy annoying 20 euro notes, make it 100, it's so simple. Unbelievable.
There you have it, in a few lines the reason why artemis, and tourist clubs in general, are tougher playgrounds.
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Instead of tipping her take another session with her later.
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[QUOTE=Septimus1974;1753777]As for me I always give tip to the girls, 60 euro is not much and I think you always should give some extra, it depends, sometimes 20 euro ekstra or all together 100 euro for half an hour.
But not less than 80 euro.
You can buy a ticket for alcoholic drinks in the reception.[/QUOTE]I like to give 200 euros. A nice even round number.
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[QUOTE=Guy93;1754031]Instead of tipping her take another session with her later.[/QUOTE]Yes, I do the both of it. Tipping and another session. To be honest, why are you guys so miserly? 60 euro is very cheap and it should been raised to 100 euro.
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Contest
Oh! The dick measurement game is on. Anyone up for the 300 Euro payment? Come on guys I know you got it in you.
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Beat this
[QUOTE=SimonRex;1754163]Oh! The dick measurement game is on. Anyone up for the 300 Euro payment? Come on guys I know you got it in you.[/QUOTE]I'm that satisfying for them that they tip me at the end. Beats working for a living.
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Report #2 from American Newbie
Trizen here again with my second (and probably last) report. Another great visit to Artemis. Here are some details (shorter than last time, I promise).
As soon as I walked in I sat down in the lounge at one of the couches on the upper level at the very end. A beautiful brunette approached me named Alita. She is from Greece. Total shark. "Come to the room immediately. Thirty minutes from now is no good. Must be now. "Screw this. I turned her down without blinking an eye.
I got up from the couch and went to the spiral staircase. This Friday night was dead. Last Wednesday was much busier. What is going on? I guess all the Germans are on holiday by now. Lots of beautiful girls though, so what do I care. As I come to the spiral staircase, I meet Tatiana. We trade remarks back and forth and it is really a fun little conversation. She is a smart ass. I like it. Tatiana is Romanian, 27 years old, has been at Artemis for five years. She has page boy length dark hair and a crazy beautiful body. Not huge breasts but big, natural and lovely. Dark Romanian eyes. Somewhat dark skin tone to the point where I wondered if she might be a gypsy (but no bad smell). Just crazy beautiful. Okay, so I went upstairs with Tatiana for 1/2 hour. I loved it. She had great BBBJ technique. I finished easily within a half hour. She shared about her life with me and we had a nice time.
Back to the lounge. I walked around for a bit and all of a sudden ran into Ginger from Romania who I met last time. I told Ginger (friend of Alita from Wednesday) that I would see her on Friday. She held me to my word. Ginger is a beautiful blond, a bit taller than the others (or was it just the shoes?) and great smile. Page boy blond hair. My god, I took her upstairs for a 1/2 hour. I told her I might not finish in that time, but it was okay. She took that as a challenge. She went after me with BBBJ and then with FS and I loved it. She met her challenge. Before twenty minutes was up, I was done. Only then did she tell me that she saw my old body as a challenge and decided she was going to finish me no matter what. No rush, no frenzy, just friendly, passionate service. Outstanding.
Back to the lounge. I met with Maya from Hungary again. Folks, Maya is the real deal. I love every bone in her body. She is an ex-porn star and if you are really nice to her she will tell you her porn name and you can look her up. Amazing girl. We did not do a session but we sat together for a while and massaged each other.
I sat back down on a couch in the lounge determined to leave once I finished my beer. Along came Vivian, a 30 year old Romanian girl (see a pattern here?) and she sat beside me on the couch. No, not really beside me, mostly on top of me. Vivian is a big girl, really big natural boobs, thick waisted, shoulder length reddish brown hair, glasses. Sexy but more the girl-next door look, not supermodel like a lot of the other girls at Artemis. Vivian had a sparkling personality, laughing and joking with great English. (All my girls from tonight had excellent English.) She started playing around with me through the robe and, to my great surprise, I was sitting there with a hard-on. I had no idea this was possible after two other girls and two pops. Okay Vivian, you win, we're going at it. I took Vivian to the cinema room and we had a great time. I completely forgot to watch the porno, she had me quite focused. It was a great time. I didn't pop, which was fine with me. Vivian gives very nice service, she is always inquiring what you want, pressure, speed. She is a caring girl, really pleasant time. I would repeat with Vivian.
As I left I saw that Maya was in an argument with some Arab guys who didn't want to pay for something. I got the distinct impression you don't want to mess with Maya.
To be honest I did not have a good impression of the Romanian girls my first visit to Artemis. But this time. Wow! I had three Romanian girls and three superb experiences. I can recommend each one of them highly.
I also ran into two guys from Wednesday. German / Albanian cousins. Crazy dudes and a lot of fun! We had a good time sharing stories and watching the girls walk by.
To summarize: Tatiana from Romania - 27 years old - 8/ looks, 9/ service. Ginger From Romania via Amsterdam - 24 years old - 9/ looks, 9 service. Vivian from Romania - 30 years old - 6/ looks, 9/ service. I would repeat with any of them. So beautiful and such passionate, friendly service.
That's it for me. At least, my wallet hopes so. I'm quite glad that I do not live in Berlin, because these girls would be emptying my wallet on a regular basis. How do you Berliners deal with it?
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1754163]Oh! The dick measurement game is on. Anyone up for the 300 Euro payment? Come on guys I know you got it in you.[/QUOTE]I give them a nice Ultrahappy kiss as their tip. That's got to be worth like a 200 Euros at least!
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Executing the gameplan
[QUOTE=Trizen;1754180][/QUOTE]A beautiful brunette approached me named Alita. She is from Greece. Total shark.
(She's probably Romanian pretending to be Greek).
Tatiana is Romanian, 27 years old, has been at Artemis for five years. She has page boy length dark hair and a crazy beautiful body. Not huge breasts but big, natural and lovely. Dark Romanian eyes. Somewhat dark skin tone to the point where I wondered if she might be a gypsy (but no bad smell).
(Tatiana is a nice girl. She enjoys DATY very much).
Back to the lounge. I met with Maya from Hungary again. Folks, Maya is the real deal. I love every bone in her body. She is an ex-porn star and if you are really nice to her she will tell you her porn name and you can look her up. Amazing girl. We did not do a session but we sat together for a while and massaged each other.
(You can tell us her porn name. Chances are, I won't get to meet her.).
I sat back down on a couch in the lounge determined to leave once I finished my beer. Along came Vivian, a 30 year old Romanian girl (see a pattern here?) and she sat beside me on the couch. No, not really beside me, mostly on top of me.
(Oh, Vivian! Reaching in your robe is her signature move. She is very affectionate.).
...in Berlin, because these girls would be emptying my wallet on a regular basis. How do you Berliners deal with it?
(Regular German guys do not tip the girls. In fact it is frowned upon. Germany also offers other options outside of the FKKs).
Well, I am glad you executed the game plan quite well for a rookie. I can tell you read my report because that is exactly what I would do if I were in your shoes.
Next time try the Frankfurt clubs.
FiddyCent.
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Thanks a bunch
[QUOTE=Trizen;1753803]
My lessons learned. 1) Don't drink too much beer. I think I will limit myself to two next night. Brewer's droop and all that. Non-alcoholic drinks are free and the 10 euros per beer can eat away at your cash pile. 2) Don't be afraid to talk to the other guys. Yes, the whole reason we are there is to fuck girls, but during the resting times you might as well talk to the other punters. 3) I'm going to try the porn room next time. It looked like fun. 4) Walk a lot, especially outside. It was a perfectly cool night so I was able to cool down after getting too overheated looking at gorgeous women. Plus you get to interact with the girls while walking by instead of being trapped if you're sitting. Several girls grabbed my ass or would brush up against me while walking past. So frickin' hot. 5) Spending time with a naked woman in private is the best part. I don't need to pop every session. Consider the whole night to be one long sex session. The girls certainly don't care. They just want the money, after all. 6) I'm going to try one of the fuck rooms by the outdoor pool next time.
Thanks again for all the info on the forums. You helped me have the greatest night. Well, until tomorrow's report.[/QUOTE]Thank you! As a newbie myself your information and experiences are really important and I am grateful for the sharing!
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[QUOTE=SepticMoose1974;1754148]Yes, I do the both of it. Tipping and another session. To be honest, why are you guys so miserly? 60 euro is very cheap and it should been raised to 100 euro.[/QUOTE]Insanity is not a crime, or are you a WG from Artemis?
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Market Forces
[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1754297]Insanity is not a crime, or are you a WG from Artemis?[/QUOTE]+1.
True 60 Euro is not much but pros in Berlin are not rare either.
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Tipping and the issue
[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1754297]Insanity is not a crime, or are you a WG from Artemis?[/QUOTE]SepticMoose you are probably wondering why they guys on the forum are giving you some grief and you asked why the guys are so measly. It is not that the guys (or me!) are mean.
It is as easy as this: if you tip every girl because you think €60 is not enough, you will lower levels of service for all mongers. Tipping in an FKK is no different than tipping in other service environments: if you get exceptional service you should tip and tip well. If you receive normal service you should not tip. I know americans have a different mentality to this but FKKs are not in the USA and around the rest of the world tipping is reserved for really exceptional service. If girls know they will get a tip whatever the service their service will be mechanical. I don't blame them actually. I can fully understand why a girl having to give 10 blow jobs in a day would not be so inclined to give the last two the same effort as the first two. That is human nature, fatigue etc. But if girls realise that when they do go the extra mile for a punter they get a good tip they try harder.
Now some punters are mean: giving an Ultrahappy kiss as a tip is something the girl probably would have paid NOT to receive!
Only joking UH but you walked into it!
So SepticMoose. No grief from me. But please think about other mongers when adopting policies in FKK. It is important for us all that the girls do offer top service. As it is the girls in Artemis get a way with a lot because there is no rival club in Berlin.
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Can't decide
I had planned a visit to the Artemis at Friday (7th) the coming week but now I see they have an event "Pool Party" at Wednesday (5th).
Hmm, I have never been to such an event at Artemis. Do you think it's worth a visit? What day do you think there will be most girls?
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1754206]A beautiful brunette approached me named Alita. She is from Greece. Total shark.
Well, I am glad you executed the game plan quite well for a rookie. I can tell you read my report because that is exactly what I would do if I were in your shoes.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Thanks FiddyCent for your comments. Yes, I read your report with great interest. I learned a lot and put it to good practice.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1754325]I know americans have a different mentality to this but FKKs are not in the USA and around the rest of the world tipping is reserved for really exceptional service. [/QUOTE]The reason Americans have different tipping mentality is because in certain services industry jobs (like waitress) tipping is big part of the income. Reason being that base salary is very low.
Otherwise I strongly agree with your sentiment.
My view:
We can argue that 50-60 euro is not as much as it was 15 years ago and that influx of EE girls have pushed the prices down (and therefore that real income has gone down) but on the other hand there is very few normal jobs which will give you this much income for 30 minute job (or tbh in most cases in Artemis a 15-20 min job). I have heard girls complain of slow day when they only pulled in 430 euros. Ofc they got expenses too and I suspect that some of them are turning over they money to third parties (esp Romanian girls) but certainly a german girl is earning more money in a week than a high paying German does in a month. Just look at the cars some of the girls are having.
You will not impress them with 40 euro tip for a rushed job, you will simply mark yourself as gullible target. And ofc if she receives tip for substandard service what will be her reason to improve herself? So basically you just rewarded someone for mediocre service, ensuring you get same level of service next time and in same time ruining experience (by lowering the bar of what is acceptable service) for the next guy.
I strongly advise people to view this hobby as business transaction first and foremost. Always respect the girl but never be in doubt that if you got heart attack while being in process of paying them most of them would probably steal your wallet first before calling for help (and some of them wouldn't even do that).
My rule for tipping:
Did she give you service and a experience that you cannot experience with 90% of every other girl in Artemis or for that matter any other FKK? She deserves tipping.
None of the 22 sessions I had in Artemis qualified for this. The only girl I tipped was my first experience in a FKK. I tipped her because I did not know any better and did not want to be asshole towards the girl (her "service"* was shitty compared to every other girl. And I had some crappy ones).
*Talking about Nicole from CZ.
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Success story
[QUOTE=Trizen;1754382]Thanks FiddyCent for your comments. Yes, I read your report with great interest. I learned a lot and put it to good practice.[/QUOTE]No problem Trizen. It makes me happy every time I read about a success story. I used to visit Artemis at least once a year, but I thought most of the good girls have either moved on or retired. In its heyday, you would have met a girl like Nina. She was probably one of the most talked about gals at the club. You would also get the tattooed porn star types like Nika and Lulu. There were also very pretty girls like Polish Hannah. I am just reminiscing about the club and the girls that you had sessions with. Lucky for you that you met a girl like Maya. I am curious to know what her porn name was. I hope you could share your secret with us. You could also PM me, if you have a subscription.
Happy mongering!
FiddyCent.
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For those of us accustomed to paying 100 Euro / hour in Hessen, paying 120 Euros / HR already feels like we're tipping them. Like this, Artemis girls already have a built-in tip included in their base price.
Plus, doesn't Berlin have a cheaper cost of living than Hessen anyways?
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1754543]For those of us accustomed to paying 100 Euro / hour in Hessen, paying 120 Euros / HR already feels like we're tipping them. Like this, Artemis girls already have a built-in tip included in their base price.
Plus, doesn't Berlin have a cheaper cost of living than Hessen anyways?[/QUOTE]Yes. And yes again. Plus one of the highest entry fees due to the monopolistic situation in Berlin.
HB.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1754543]For those of us accustomed to paying 100 Euro / hour in Hessen, paying 120 Euros / HR already feels like we're tipping them. Like this, Artemis girls already have a built-in tip included in their base price.
Plus, doesn't Berlin have a cheaper cost of living than Hessen anyways?[/QUOTE]Or you can also think of it as paying 25 Euros tip in Hessen for 1 HR if comparing to Samya. Or 20 Euros comparing to Aca. NRW club prices has risen recently due to Oceans, but before GT/LR pricing was 50 for first half, and 25 after. All different types of extended rates. Or we can think of CIM tipping 25 extra in Hessn, or 50 for Anal. Just difference in prices. Good competition over there too.
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A tourists 5 cents about the whole tipping / price thing.
I spent just shy of 3 k Euro over 5 days at Artemis this year, 100 in tips, 30 Euro on 30 min sessions with excellent service, where I should have extended. 70 on above and beyond service and free time. I am amazed that I got free time this year, and free time last year as a tourist, and I think that should be rewarded since they know I would not be a regular. 1 hour sessions with good service or with extras I did not tip. I believe this is a good balance. As a whole I think over tipping is bad for tourists and locals in the long run. Tip where tipping is due, but not overdo it. The American model where 10% tip is bad service and 20% or more is good service, just hurts us all.
About the Artemis pricing. For tourists like me with limited time it is pure convenience, I know I would get more bang for my buck in other parts of Germany, but it would also be way more hassle with multiple flights, travels, hotels, rental car etc. Artemis for me means direct flight, cheep hotel, very easy access by public transport. And I am willing to pay extra for that, and that makes Artemis the tourist club it is, for the good and the bad.
Also having just one choice you can get more prepared, less names to remember. And you can repeat with the good ones. Doing 5 clubs in 5 days in Frankfurt, is a way bigger gamble. This year I had only 2 bad session and that was because my own stupidity, imagine experimenting with 4 or more clubs else where. I doubt I would have the same success rate. So yes I have no problems with the Artemis prices, but it would suck if I lived in Berlin.
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[QUOTE=VaeVictis;1754444]We can argue that 50-60 euro is not as much as it was 15 years ago and that influx of EE girls have pushed the prices down (and therefore that real income has gone down) but on the other hand there is very few normal jobs which will give you this much income for 30 minute job (or tbh in most cases in Artemis a 15-20 min job). I have heard girls complain of slow day when they only pulled in 430 euros. Ofc they got expenses too and I suspect that some of them are turning over they money to third parties (esp Romanian girls) but certainly a german girl is earning more money in a week than a high paying German does in a month. Just look at the cars some of the girls are having.
[/QUOTE]I can see it being attractive still for Germans. Those that are lacking education or supplementing income. 50 or 60 Euros in a half hour is still a quick rate if comparing it to what other work there are that can fetch that amount at their age without skills. I have seen Germans show up only on weekends and this would be due to other engagements during the week perhaps another work or schooling if they are young. I have met the Germans that had more difficulty with English and would guess those are the types that lack some education or motivation for it. Few others that had full-time job during the week, and I see them at the club for the weekend to make extra quick money, and some don't show every weekend. And lastly, it's in cash.
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[QUOTE=Batou75;1754614]I This year I had only 2 bad session and that was because my own stupidity, imagine experimenting with 4 or more clubs else where. I doubt I would have the same success rate. [/QUOTE]All depends on what you call a good session.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1754853]All depends on what you call a good session.
HB.[/QUOTE]Now that is the 1 million dollar question, and a very subjective one.
I can try to explain.
Good Session, can be done around the 30 min mark or longer, involves a little foreplay, good technical skilled sex. Where there are no shortcuts from your provider, puts down all her skills and efforts. You leave satisfied and you feel that you got your moneys worth. I have a suspicion that this is what more experienced mongers would label as an average session.
Very good session for me is GFE, 1 hour or more, a lot of foreplay, maybe just laying next to each other making out, teasing from both party's, very slow build up, DATY, passionate sex, the technical aspect is not important here, and ends with cuddling and a little talking. At no point is money or time mention in these sessions, it just flows, and ends when you feel it the right time to end it.
Spectacular, will not label these as sessions as time is irrelevant. The bar here is set by my regular escort, I visit 2 or 3 times a year for a weekend or short week. Wine, dine and the whole shebang.
In FKK land, 2 maybe 3 lady's has achieved this. It involves all the GFE elements from above, but add mutual orgasms, makes you achieve an orgasm that leaves your legs shaking and toes curling. It makes you forget time and place the rest of the world just phases out, you lower all your guards and barriers.
On the other hand, pun intended. The strongest orgasm I have achieved has been trough tantric and lingam massage, from a masseuse that has studied this for many years. It leaves your entire body tingling, your legs shaking and your hips raised in the air, it is nothing like sex, just pure sensation. This is something I have experienced only 4 or 5 times in my life. In Berlin, Kashima. De offers this experience.
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Price Tag 60 euro or more
I think it's very cheap whatsoever, compared to what its cost here in Sweden. You want find any sex here at all for 60 euro. Not even the free sex cost less. LOL.
If I was a sex working girl I wouldn't handle to do that work the girls at Artemis or other "tourist" clubs does, no way, not for that kind of small money.
Just think about to meet all this drunk and drooling men looking like Homer Simpson thinking about donuts. Huuu!
But still, I almost never give tip to the girls. If I should give a tip the session really need to be a wonderful Hallelujah Moment. So to all of you Artemis girls reading here, give me a Hallelujah Moment and I will dig real DEEP in my wallet. LOL.
Once again. What do you guys think about the upcoming "pool party" event? Any thoughts at all? Anyone of you going there? I have never been to such an event and I don't know what to expect with a visit? Maybe more drunk men? I'm not sure if I shall re-book my hotel room from Friday to Wednesday? The whether is expected to be better at Friday.
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General Questions
What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.
Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
What is the estimation of the turnout of the girls on a good night? Which night during the week would have the best turn-out? Is there are particular day of the week that the ratio of girls to boys are the best?
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1754947]Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
[/QUOTE]If you look back at the forum for previous years around that time, then I'm sure you can find some answers.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1754947]What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.[/QUOTE]I was there week ago and there was everything between 20 to 40's. My experience during last week (I don't have age preference so don't take my word for gospel): Average is mid-twenties and upwards during the day and same at the evening. But since lot more girls work at evening (after 18-19) there is lot more selection. Generally if you are into lower end of 20's you'll find something to your taste but don't expect to have all house full of them youngs.
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LOL at PussyLiccker
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1754947]What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.
Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
What is the estimation of the turnout of the girls on a good night? Which night during the week would have the best turn-out? Is there are particular day of the week that the ratio of girls to boys are the best?[/QUOTE]Great stuff!
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Age
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1754947]What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.[/QUOTE]"Mattress Back" Marketa (a very attractive blonde Czech) must have been 27 at least for five solid years in a row hahaha!
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Questions and? Answers?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1754947]What is the avg age of the girls at Artemis? Based on what I'm reading of the reports, those that have the age of the girls reported nearby, I would guess good percentage are late 20's? I understand that who are reported makes up only percentage of LU. Any frequenter can give me an idea of the general age range of the girls? What percentage are under 24? Is it expect to be late 20's now? Last time I attended, I met all kinds, but I tend to go with the girls in the lowest 20's region.
Second, I've read somewhere IFA is a big even in Berlin. Is it not recommended to attend during this time? It is the only club in Berlin so I can imagine the place turning into a mad house. Does this even draw a big LU? Is there are duration in the club during this even that the place isn't overly crowded? After this event, does the LU sustain?
What is the estimation of the turnout of the girls on a good night? Which night during the week would have the best turn-out? Is there are particular day of the week that the ratio of girls to boys are the best?[/QUOTE]Bloody hell PL I'm trying to think of a question you didn't ask!! Ever one for a challenge here goes:
Avg age. I'd say 26-30 -.
Yes good percentage are late 20's.
General age as per average above.
19.45876% under 24 on last trip though one girl had her 24th that night so it might be less now! Only jokin! LOL. I'd say less than 20% are under 24 - if you want young girls go to Oase in Frankfurt.
More over 25's than most FKK clubs in my experience though YMMV.
IFA is not until 4-9 Sept so simply avoid those dates. Yes the club would be busier. During the Champions League Final (in Berlin this year there were queues outside the club lasting an hour to get in and guys offering girls hundreds of euros for 30 minutes).
After the Champions League Final the LU returned to normal after a day or so.
I have no idea what turnout of girls there is on a good night but it doesn't matter. If you find 4 or 5 you want to session with you don't need 100.
I rather doubt any guy will have done actual ratios for each day but as with most clubs Fridays and Saturdays are busiest and again in my experience Art is the same. Wednesday is dessous and can be less busy.
Hope that helps. Now. In the same way, I recently asked a question of the most frequent Artemis forum members. Diplomat / Rocketboy etc. Who are your top 5 girls there in the LU at present? Cmon guys share a little!
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[QUOTE=SimonRex;1752335]I agree. Staying longer than 30 minutes is tip enough. Overall I think the Art is getting worse. The girls' attitude is getting more rude than before. There are still some rays of sunshine there but they seem to be more and more rare. Even Sasha was grumpy. I think the management needs to take care of this or else they need competition.[/QUOTE]It has changed a lot at Artemis the last years and it is getting tougher for the girls, the price has been the same for some years and the competition between the girls getting customers is very hard. You can see the result of it every day. Sometimes there are only a few men during daytime and more than 50 girls, situations like this is not good for the girls and not for the men as well. The management seems not to be willing to solve this problem with too many girls at all. I do understand why some of the Girls are getting grumpy. And another reason why the girls are getting grumpy are that some men can't behave at all.
At my first visit in 2008 I thought Artemis were a great place, nothing to compare, but now I have changed my mind, it has changed and has become a worse Place. And this it not due to the girls who is very friendly.
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I returned to Artemis almost a year after my last visit. There was no really noticeable change in quality of LU since last year in my opinion. I had a repeat from last visit with Vanity from Barbados. Not a talkative girl and not so active but she is quite sweet and it was possible to have a nice relaxed time together. Vanity has got the most spectacular and amazing body I've experienced. Small and tight ass, soft skin, super slim waist and the softest grandiose breasts. Will probably always remember the feeling of caressing those big tits since I have never felt anything so soft and smooth. Vanity later recommended for me Aileen from Hamburg. Dark-haired, beautiful eyes, quite big implants and a well proportioned tight ass. I was a bit too tired for this session to really be present in the moment and enjoy it properly. But Aileen had good technique and I would say that she gave a pretty decent service. Only disappointing session for me was with Virginia from Hungary. Tall blonde woman with big pouty lips and big implants. This girl was a bit rushed and set in her ways trying to go through her programme. Not so flexible or sensitive to input.
I picked Dominicana Liza basically because she looked very hot dancing in the lounge and seemed to be enjoying herself chatting with everyone. Maybe not the best sexual chemistry for me (albeit good and different BJ technique) and did not enjoy the location which was one of the small rooms adjacent to the kino downstairs. Liza however is very outgoing and personable. Could be a good choice for anyone who values the energetic and fun / spontaneous type. Blonde Heather from Moldava has this rather sweet and different look. Resembles a princess, got a little vibe of the film Marie Antoinette or something like that. She did not offer anything beyond the basic for 30 minutes but I still liked the session. She was hot enough to help me get into the right feeling.
I had been eyeing this voluptuous German blonde called Manelle for two days. Had a nice chat with her in the lounge, seemed that she was quite new to the place. Out of all the girls I've met in A this was the one with the most relaxed attitude. Being a tourist I always get the sales pitch within the first two minutes. Manelle didn't even seem to expect me to want to go upstairs. She rather seemed surprised when I proposed it. Quite a contrast from the girl that approached me just before I went to Manelle. After 15 seconds of conversation came the rehearsed and robotic: "I like you, I want to go to the room with you". The smart and genuine girls must have a great advantage in the long run. Manelle was great in the room too, sexy and skilled, nice kissing. I got so into it that I remembered something I'd read (probably in this thread) about someone asking the girl to leave the room and venture downstairs to bring someone up to make it a surprise threesome. I felt nervous asking for it since I didn't want her to feel that she was lacking in any way but she reacted well of course. She brought petite brunette Tessa. Not really my type or anyone I'd picked myself but I guess that was part of the excitement. The girls showed a lot of commitment in the ensuing threesome. Maybe a tad theatrical in moaning and unrealistically quick orgasms on their part. I enjoyed Manelle alot and would recommend her.
On my first day I also had a threesome. Met petite German / Mozambican Valesca and she asked if I'd like to bring in another girl. This was convenient since I also had my eyes on Marisol from Dominican Rep. I was a bit worried considering the many bad reviews of threesomes in FKKs. I turned down the offer of lesbo-show or whatever they call it and choose a plain one hour session. Valesca and Marisol were rather sweet and combined quite well finding different ways of optimizing the effect of them being a duo. Maybe not over the top extraordinary but still very good and the beauty of the girls added a lot to the pleasure.
So on to the very best ones: Debby from Stuttgart with beautiful curly ash-blonde hair. This girl had the ability to within the half hour (felt like we went over) offer both a mix of GFE-feeling and very sexy porn style sex. Finished with COF and then some cuddling. As we were ready to leave I got hard again which she pointed out. I was ready to extend for an additional half hour but she advice against it. She recommended me to come find her again later on instead since it would be more pleasurable for me if I had to pay first. I was impressed with her honest and considerate way, she could have easily just cashed in on the extended session. Unfortunately I couldn't manage to find her free anymore that evening. Very recommendable girl, probably the best service level I've come across so far. And many appealing aspects of Debby; attractive face, tight body, feminine beautiful voice, great techniques and very generous.
I also had the pleasure of meeting Russian blonde Vegas. I noticed her in the stairs but couldn't get eye contact so went after her into the lounge. Sat down in a couch as she got busy talking with a bunch of other girls. As I finally approached her, she seemed very icy. As she gave me her name I vaguely remembered that I had read about her in this thread and that she was supposed to be good. She actually interviewed me to find out if she'd consider going upstairs, rather than the other way around! This was something new to me, but I guess this is the approach for someone that is very popular. She may not have been as present or cuddly as Debby but the kissing was perfect, best BJ technique I've experienced and overall just super sexy. Debby and Vegas were standouts for me this weekend. But the general quality of sessions was pretty high throughout. Maybe I was a bit lucky in my pickings.
Comparing Artemis to the big clubs in Frankfurt, which I visited two months ago, I think Artemis stands well against the competition. The variety of different types of girls and looks is an asset to A. I would also rate A slightly higher than Sharks and Oase for the level of looks and the service given seemed equivalent to me (even though I would need more visits to make a fair comparison).
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[QUOTE=TrueNature;1755483]Great report thank you.
I will go Artemis in October, as you been to Frankfurt I saw most beautiful blondes German at Palace, do you think Artemis has that kind of quality?[/QUOTE]I am not so experienced, have only been to Palace two nights. But I would say that Palace and Artemis do resemble each other in the type of line-up of girls. I think the number of women may be greater at Artemis on an average night compared to Palace, so a little more to choose from. And you will see the same type of quite beautiful women and also plenty of pornstar-types. But of course, in Artemis like in Palace the girls will be somewhat older than other clubs and more implants than natural. If you like blondes I would recommend Vegas, Debby and Heather. Debby and Heather I guess are kind of ash-blonde in colour. Vegas has more of the pornstar type of looks if you're into that, with beautiful eyes. I've also been with Cuban Bella last year, don't know if she's still there. She is a bit of a Pamela Anderson look-a-like and gives great service. In Palace I met only one great blonde; called Nikky (Nikki?) who were on par with the best from Artemis I'd say.
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Artemis Visit. Aug 2015
Hi guys,
Had a wonderful time at Artemis the other day. I must say a big thank-you to all of you who have given advice and techniques for visiting Artemis: avoiding sharks, girls to avoid, wearing your watch etc. I would like to add that once you have chosen a girl to fuck, go to one of the rooms UPSTAIRS. The rooms next to the Kino in the basement as well as both kinos themselves are too warm. Upstairs you can open the windows / curtains and enjoy the pussy better.
Anyway my first session was with a blond gorgeous 27 year old Latvian babe called Mila. She started with a lovely blow-job. Great technique with lips and tongue. Of all the blow jobs I've had. Both from lovers and pros. This was by far the best one. Then she let me lick her perfectly clean and sensitive pussy. She seemed to enjoy it and was soon soaking wet. Then it was on to a cowgirl fuck. Sadly this did not last long because I could not hold back any longer.
Mila does not kiss, but she will let you play with her lovely tits.
After Mila, I ate some food and rested. It was good in the restaurant looking at the girls wrapped in towels. I actually think this is more of a turn on than seeing them naked.
After dinner and a rest in the porn kino, I decided to have one for the road. I chose a Hungarian brunette called Andrea. She has only been at Artemis for a short time and is still a rookie. Her attitude is great and she wants to please. Her blow jobs are slightly toothy but improve when she slows down. Her pussy felt good when I was inside her. Sex was good both in missionary and doggy. I Shot my load into her after a good fuck. She is certainly one to recommend and one I would session with again.
All- in-all it was a good day at Artemis.
I had a laugh on leaving. As I was leaving the building, a taxi was waiting outside. I walked past and saw a confused man looking up and down the motorway at the junction of the West Kreutz car park. "What are you looking for? I cried. "A taxi", said he. (How many people go to West Kreutz for a cab? Ever helpful I told him that there was a taxi sitting at the entrance of a brothel at the end of the street. Upon hearing the word 'brothel' his ears pricked up. "By the way", I added, "if you are going in you should try Mila".
I hope he had a good time. In the taxi of course.
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Sissy
I'm planning a quick visit to Berlin next week, anyone seen Sissy lately, she's a nice Bulgarian brunette with angel wings tattoo on back.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=FMoreau;1757287] anyone seen Sissy lately, she's a nice Bulgarian brunette with angel wings tattoo on back.[/QUOTE]Have seen her ten days ago. Didn't visit the place since then. - Just call the Front desk.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1757475]Have seen her ten days ago. Didn't visit the place since then. - Just call the Front desk.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot, I know I may call the front desk but I'm outside Germany now and for what I know they can only say if the girl is already there or not but they cannot say anything about its schedule.
I hope to check it out soon, thanks again.
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Just got back from Artemis. This review will be for newbies. I've been in the game for over 10 years and had no clue what I've been missing. Americans rave about Thailand, Columbia, DR, etc. as pussy paradises, but I've never heard anyone talk about German FKKs. This is an experience that should not be missed.
First of all, it's basically a brothel masked as a nudist club. The first thing you do is strip, shower, and put on a robe. So be prepared to be naked with other naked dudes. I've never really done this and was uncomfortable at first but after a while, I didn't mind. I went for pussy but actually found myself enjoying the facilities way more than I expected. Maybe I'll become a nudist!
So you pay 80 euro to get in, but this includes access to everything: showers, sauna, pool, food, soda etc. Alcoholic drinks are 10. I vaped with my pax on the shitter without anyone noticing, so I saved some cash there. The girls all cost 60 euro to fuck for 30 minutes. They're not allowed to charge more unless you request stuff like CIM or anal etc. DON'T PAY THEM MORE! NO TIPPING REQUIRED!
So the main bar area is like a strip club but totally nude girls walk around trying to get you to fuck them. Let me put this into perspective. A room full of white women in their 20's is begging you to fuck them for about $65. In NYC you could only get a Dominican to give you 3 lap dances for that. These girls sucked my dick raw (which I was hesitant about, but hey, when in Rome) and fucked with multiple positions for about twice the cost of the taxi drive back to my hotel! Ok, when I say white, I'm mainly talking about Eastern Europeans, Russians, Romanians, etc. But these girls would cost at least $300 in the states. Some were gorgeous! They were mostly very slim, which is not my preference, but hey I got over it.
Onto the details. Lounging outside I was approached by Loreen, a 25 year old from Hungary who said her father was Arabic. Beautiful face, beautiful eyes, olive skin, natural athletic body, and silky real dark hair she let me run my fingers through. I flirted a little and dropped some jokes and she warmed up to me quickly. Guys, these are hoes, but you will get the best out of them by flirting. So I take her to a room, give her a massage, after which she gives me awesome sloppy head. She put on a condom and rode my dick cowgirl style and then I laid her on her back and pounded away until I dropped a nut deep inside that 25 year old pussy. She was very passionate and seemed really into it, or was the best actress I've ever fucked. The entire time, we never lost eye contact, which was more of a turn on than anything. I think she might have hypnotized me with some Hungarian Gypsy magic!
I hung around for a while and decided that I was going to try for round two. At this point it was much later and more crowded with guys. So there was slim pickings as all the hottest girls were occupied. I grabbed a Barbie doll looking Romanian, but she was very cold. Perfect body, perfect face, but no raw sexiness or passion. I got a sense of this lack of connection and probably should have passed, but I was getting tired. She provided all the same services, but again she was very distant, and this made it hard for me to enjoy myself. Hey, I want my hoes not to act like hoes, what can I say? Even with this small disappointment, the experience was fucking amazing.
BTW, check out the public fuck room in the back left corner. I didn't know I'd be into watching another dude fuck but it was interesting.
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Hi guys,
I'm new here and I am planning few visits to the Artemis next week.
I am a foot fetishist and I wanted to know if girls of the Artemis could perform such things?
Thanks
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The benefit of RTTF and help
I've been to the Art quite a few times now but recently called out for some help from some regulars given my impending visit. I'd like to say a bit thanks to those who responded here (several did). Rather than name anyone I'd prefer to just say a big thanks and you know who you are. And so.
First night, only in the club for 10 minutes and bumped into Loira. Who I sessioned with on a previous visit. Beautiful blonde Czech / German, mid 20's, good body, fairly tall and some tattoos and sillies but nice ones! Definitely wanted a session but conscious of the old "not with the first girl. " syndrome so decided to check out the club to see if some of my personal favourites were in. No Celia, Ruby, or Joanna. All great girls (see my previous Art post from June). Really disappointed no Joanna. Great perfornance. Lots of options though. Couple of beers, some food and then into session with Loira. 90 minutes and great time.
Day 2. Arrived earlier. Did a one hour workout downstairs. No - not the horizontal type. An actual workout in the gym area. It's excellent. I know it's odd to do this in a FKK but hey its there for a reason. Massage area is public. Not my thing. Shame as I'd have had one otherwise. Into the bar, stunning blonde Helena. Romanian but cold as a fish to talk to do decided to heed the bad vibe and pass. And was I glad I did. Spotted Debby. Lots of good recent reports on her and good feedback from those who offered help. What an amazing girl. I've been doing this 30 years and I can honestly say I don't think anyone has exceeded her amazing GFE performance. Everything you want, she kisses beautifully, is very skilled and very charming. Best experience I've had in any FKK. 2 hours, exhausted but went home very happy.
Day 3. Arrived later. Had looked out for Vegas from previous reports and help given but she had not been in the club the last 2 nights. Here tonight. Very tall Russian blonde with enormous sillies and tattoos everywhere. Blonde but blue hair at the bottom! Soon to be pink! Not my usual type but decided not to ignore excellent reports and you know they do pay off. Best BBBJ in the business. This girl knows how to suck a cock! She really opens up once you break the ice. Lovely girl, great service. More PSE than GFE but great. Then onto final session of this trip - 3 hour marathon with Debby. Just awesome. And joined for the last 30 minutes by her friend Lisa. Black girl from Dominican Republic. Great natural the cups and terrific attitude. I normally avoid threesomes but they took me to heaven and back.
Fantastic trip, great girls. Debby (incredible) Vegas, Lisa and Loira. Would recommend them all. Thanks again for the help guys. You made an old (er) man very happy!
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I guarantee you can have this. You may have to pay the $60 only for foot play or sex, but both may be more. Standard was blowjob and then sex.
[QUOTE=Nick75;1757840]Hi guys,
I'm new here and I am planning few visits to the Artemis next week.
I am a foot fetishist and I wanted to know if girls of the Artemis could perform such things?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Pay for different types of play
[QUOTE=Nick75;1757840]Hi guys,
I'm new here and I am planning few visits to the Artemis next week.
I am a foot fetishist and I wanted to know if girls of the Artemis could perform such things?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Maxx's answer was right Nick. You should ask downstairs in the lounge as some girls won't do things out of the ordinary. Most will do CIM for more money, and some anal for even more but in Artemis the girls tend to want payment for extra services. That said, if you find a girl who will oblige it's worth paying for it if that is your thing. I would ask Loira (blonde) or Vegas. I would be surprised if either of those girls said no as they are very accommodating. Just don't put your foot in it. Sorry. Couldn't resist. LOL. Enjoy.
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Is getting a rim job a standard extra or is it maybe not common?
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[QUOTE=Toxteth;1743464]I was also at Artemis this Sunday, the name of the first girl you described is Kiara if I'm not mistaken!?
I had a session with a few months ago she had a tight pussy but she had one of the worst BJ I have had in my life (she sucks with her teethes) ok personality didn't kiss and didn't seem to like DATY. If you have a connection with her go for it, otherwise don't bother.
Sorry but I don't know the name of girl number 2.[/QUOTE]Yes. You were right. Thanks.
One months later I find it out, her name was Kiara and she claimed to be 24 years old.
I came to talk with her where she sat in the bar, I heard her speaking German with her friend, I don't speak German, I was a little shy for her and it took a while before I dared to go talk to her. And my first question became very stupid, Hallo sprechen sie deutsch? No stupid me, I mean English! She looked at me as I was from another planet. I asked her if she was busy but I pronounced it "bisse". Not a good start. LOL.
I become like a nervous 15 year old boy (I'm just over 40) when I see a beautiful girl that I find very attractive, for me she is like 10,5 at a scale from one to ten. I stood in front of her trying to hide my great boner with the towel.
I asked her if she want to make me company in the jacuzzi and then go to a room whereupon she replied that I have to pay for the time in the jacuzzi, of course I said and then we walked together out to the jacuzzi thru the lounge and the restaurant with me trying to hide my boner all the way out. LOL. Damn what a babe! What a body!
I Had a quite good session with her, not the best one I had in my life but it was okay, but sadly no kissing, I would give the session about 7,5-8 on a scale to 10.
If I would repeat? Yes maybe, but that depends what the alternative is for the moment.
But damn what a body.
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I'm there on Friday and Sturday. Lets meet up?
Would be cool to connect, discuss the girls and have a good time. PM!
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Wednesday
Had a really nice day today. I've done three sessions. And I need your help to get the last two girls and I need your help to get the last two girls name.
First of all of the place is quite nice. Spacious and comfy. The food is good and you can get free soft drinks.
Did my first session with Nikole. Pretty nice girl her blowjob is fantastic and professional and has a fairly tight pussy. She has a nice body but look is okay.
Second girl is a very tall German around 180 cm. 28 yo and has a baby. Totally forgot her name but she's quite passionate but not as professional as nikole. Small boobs but her look is quite a stunner.
Last one is a young Romanian girl. She's very cute and popular I have to rush to her after she finishes shower or someone else would get her. However her English is not good at all and doesn't seem to try to understand. Expect a Siri level of understanding. However very cute and nice boobs and coops pretty well.
However I was quite frustrated at the bar as I asked the waitress for a glass of water she just went mad at me because I didn't say please. It's funny and I'm always thinking maybe that because I'm Asian. Honestly I was going to say thanks after I get the water.
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Visiting from NYC
Hi,
I'll be there August 28-30. Any events happening that would make it crowded?
Thanks
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Wednesday
[QUOTE=Blasttp;1759444]Had a really nice day today. I've done three sessions. And I need your help to get the last two girls and I need your help to get the last two girls name.
First of all of the place is quite nice. Spacious and comfy. The food is good and you can get free soft drinks.
Did my first session with Nikole. Pretty nice girl her blowjob is fantastic and professional and has a fairly tight pussy. She has a nice body but look is okay.
Second girl is a very tall German around 180 cm. 28 yo and has a baby. Totally forgot her name but she's quite passionate but not as professional as nikole. Small boobs but her look is quite a stunner.
Last one is a young Romanian girl. She's very cute and popular I have to rush to her after she finishes shower or someone else would get her. However her English is not good at all and doesn't seem to try to understand. Expect a Siri level of understanding. However very cute and nice boobs and coops pretty well.
However I was quite frustrated at the bar as I asked the waitress for a glass of water she just went mad at me because I didn't say please. It's funny and I'm always thinking maybe that because I'm Asian. Honestly I was going to say thanks after I get the water.[/QUOTE]Hey Blast,
I was there on Wednesday and had a session with Mercedes who is a tall German / Czech with short blond hair. Probably who you saw as she was popular that night. I had my eyes on a couple of young but wasn't horny enough for another round. Will check out tomorrow (Friday) as I will go one last time before heading to London.
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Are clothing requests feasible?
Hi,
I have a bit of a sexy clothing fetish (pantyhose, spandex, nothing to crazy). Are clothing requests possible in an FKK like Artemis? I understand Wednesdays are lingerie day. On other days, can you ask if the girl has anything sexy to wear or bring something for them to wear (or does this not really work since all your stuff is in a locker? If this is not possible at Artemis, can anyone let me know if any venues might be friendly for something like this in Berlin? I am going to be staying in a nice hotel and generally prefer hotel incall. What are the better websites for this in Berlin?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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My visit to the Artemis today
The place is easy to find and access is simple via S7 line.
The area is OK.
Girls are located in the bar (smoking area) and outside (there is a pool).
Today, around 30 girls.
I started with a tall brunette with fake boobs. I came very quickly but it was worth it. She was a 8. The talk.
Then I chose a blonde girls with enormous fake tits, we had fun, we talked a lot and plaid with her sweet titties.
Both were German girls.
Then I chose a Polish girl, well she came to me, and she had nice feet. I sucked them and we fucked.
A very good day, I think I will be back.
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Anything is possible.
[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1760725]Hi,
I have a bit of a sexy clothing fetish (pantyhose, spandex, nothing to crazy). Are clothing requests possible in an FKK like Artemis? I understand Wednesdays are lingerie day. On other days, can you ask if the girl has anything sexy to wear or bring something for them to wear (or does this not really work since all your stuff is in a locker? If this is not possible at Artemis, can anyone let me know if any venues might be friendly for something like this in Berlin? I am going to be staying in a nice hotel and generally prefer hotel incall. What are the better websites for this in Berlin?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.[/QUOTE]Hi. You will have no problems if you ask the girl to wear something sexy for you in the room. They are unlikely to be willing to go upstairs, put it on and come back to join you in the bar or outside. But in the room would be fine. The other thing you can do is take an item of clothing with you. Lot's of guys take toys to FKK clubs, whips, canes, paddles, dildos, cuffs, etc then ask the girl to wait by the lockers whilst the toys are collected from the guy's locker to take upstairs. No reason you cannot do the same with something you think is sexy. Some girls might see this as an opportunity to upsell and ask you for more cash for doing this. Which isn't really fair as they would have to wear lingerie on dessous day for free anyway.
However I'd say this to you. I'm not sure you are thinking of mongering in the right place. FKKs are sauna clubs in which the girls are actually meant to be naked all of the time. Some cheat with little bits of clothing but they are not meant to cover their boobs or pussy / ass at all though some do. In some clubs this is considered a disciplinary offence. If you like girls in sexy clothing there are better alternatives. But more likely not in Germany. The puti clubs in Spain e. G. Vive in Madrid, Scandalo in Malaga are full of girls in very sexy dresses, skirts, shorts, jeans etc and they would have no problem wearing whatever you wanted them to wear for not much more money. The contract between these types of clubs and FKKs is great: I like both. The beauty of FKK is you get no surprises in the room. A saggy pair of tits is all there on display in public and you can avoid paying for them if you don't like them! That said, sex is often all about mystique as well, and for me, there is nothing more sexy that a beautiful girl in a sexy dress, stocking and suspenders and then taking them off slowing in the room. When I'm in FKK land I do miss that. In terms of Berlin. If you want to avoid just naked girls but want to monger. There is a good brothel at [URL]http://www.erotik-berlin.com[/URL] - not that far from Artemis. Finally, try Pars No 5 In Berlin for sexy massage. Lilly is amazing. Have fun!
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10 years party?
Hi anyone knows if the date for this next October (? Or late September? 10 years Artemis birthday party has already been decided. Thanks in advance.
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Last year the birthday party was 2nd October.
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Artemis tour of 16th and 17th of August
Dropped by on Saturday at 14:00 - the ratio of sausage to girls was 3:1 - yet few men picked up girls. Few girls I knew complained that the day was slow. Most of the girls is still on vacation.
Decided on Jessie. The blonde that is slightly overweight (as in few kilos). Did not go with any more girls because I had to leave at 16:00 and the LU at that time held no interest for me.
The day after was actually better in sausage to girl ration but again the LU sucked. I picked up a Romanian girl that I did not remember name of. The session was OK but what happened later was what scared the hell out of me. I went for CIM + standard session (110 euro) and discovered that I was 30 euro short. No problem I thought, excused myself to the girl, and then I went to ATM machine to take out the money. My CC card bounced. I swear that my heart rate went to 300. The girl gave me killer looks and I was thinking that soon I will be the punching bag for the Turkish security guys. Luckily a Norwegian guy that I got to know on a last trip happened by and asked my what's the trouble. He gave me the money I needed no questions asked. Faith in humanity restored.
Went out to get some money from hotel before I returned to Artemis and than I spotted the guy that helped me earlier lead a pretty sexy bombshell upstairs. Holly. Long hair, beautiful body and boobs that can rival an artillery shell. (you can find her pics on the Artemis site. She is prettier in real life). I waited 4 hours for Holly to become available but I had no luck.
So this Artemis trip was bit wasted but my respect for fellow punters increased.
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[QUOTE=Guy93;1761300]Last year the birthday party was 2nd October.[/QUOTE]Yes a Thursday (odd!) What is funny is that instead the birthday party in 2013 was on September 28th (Saturday)! Talk about a firm date. LOL.
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Do the women tend to treat younger, better looking guys more lovingly than others? Stupid question perhaps LOL. One person recently asked if women are open to giving / receiving rimjobs. Any knowledge of this? Do most people there swim in the nude? Looking forward to my first visit!
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1761584]Do the women tend to treat younger, better looking guys more lovingly than others? Stupid question perhaps LOL. One person recently asked if women are open to giving / receiving rimjobs. Any knowledge of this? Do most people there swim in the nude? Looking forward to my first visit!
Thanks![/QUOTE]You will find the youngest girls (under 20 and there are not many of those at Artemis) prefer young guys. Otherwise mostly I think the girls like older guys who have more money to spend! Not many of the girls would want to give rimming I doubt. Or if they do they will want extra money for it (and rightly so!) but I suspect several would receive it easily enough. Yes most people who swim do so nude. As you haven't been before it's worth reading some of the newbie posts to give you a guide. There are lots on the forum. First time being surrounded by so many naked women is amazing. Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1761584]Do the women tend to treat younger, better looking guys more lovingly than others? [/QUOTE]Depends on the girl of course but any girl that has been over one year in this business will tell you that they prefer guys that treat them nice. When I was in Artemis few months ago, there was a couple of young guys from middle east that behaved like the girls were fortunate to be with them. I saw girls rolling eyes behind their backs on some of their comments (I don't understand German so I have no idea what they were telling girls). I even saw couple of girls avoiding them (which is something of an achievement in Artemis as most punters can attest).
I have no doubt that girl will perhaps enjoy having a session with someone they find attractive. That being said they are in Artemis to earn money and that large portion of them will see men young or old as walking ATM machine. In my experience (and I would be happy if I am wrong) if you are the type of guy that buy several hourlong sessions, buy extras. The girl will pay you tremendous attention and give you much love even if you roll in Artemis in a wheelchair while drooling spit.
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[QUOTE=VaeVictis;1762035]Depends on the girl of course but any girl that has been over one year in this business will tell you that they prefer guys that treat them nice. When I was in Artemis few months ago, there was a couple of young guys from middle east that behaved like the girls were fortunate to be with them. I saw girls rolling eyes behind their backs on some of their comments (I don't understand German so I have no idea what they were telling girls). I even saw couple of girls avoiding them (which is something of an achievement in Artemis as most punters can attest).
I have no doubt that girl will perhaps enjoy having a session with someone they find attractive. That being said they are in Artemis to earn money and that large portion of them will see men young or old as walking ATM machine. In my experience (and I would be happy if I am wrong) if you are the type of guy that buy several hourlong sessions, buy extras. The girl will pay you tremendous attention and give you much love even if you roll in Artemis in a wheelchair while drooling spit.[/QUOTE]I figured there would be guys like that in there. Not very pleasant. How would you describe the food there? Do they have good meats? Ha. Are you an advocate of going early in the day and week for a less crowded, less aggressive atmosphere? Or do you like the more selection of women but more crowded atmosphere of late in the day and late in the week?
Thanks!
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Date and hotel for Artemis
Hey,
I am going to Berlin 2 days in September or Oktober and firt I wonder if there are any dates those months that are relly bad going becouse it will be crowded, holiday I Germany or anything else?
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
Thanks in advance and I will let you guys know how it went here after! .
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;1761477]Yes a Thursday (odd!) What is funny is that instead the birthday party in 2013 was on September 28th (Saturday)! Talk about a firm date. LOL.[/QUOTE]Oct 2nd is not so odd as Oct 3rd is a public holiday in Germany.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Puttex;1762546]
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
[/QUOTE]I have used a couple of hotels nearby. Search the maps on the internet to find them, closest are cheap and ok quality.
I felt it very safe to walk, also after midnight. 10 minutes of walking is good for you after hours of punting. If the closest hotels are occupied, I would use the S-bahn, also feels very safe.
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[QUOTE=Puttex;1762546]Hey,
I am going to Berlin 2 days in September or Oktober and firt I wonder if there are any dates those months that are relly bad going becouse it will be crowded, holiday I Germany or anything else?
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
Thanks in advance and I will let you guys know how it went here after! .[/QUOTE]I have been in Artemis many times and I always stayed in Landmark Eco Hotel and Romantik Hotel Kronprinz. Area is really safe, I used to walk hotel from Artemis at 3 am.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1762346]I figured there would be guys like that in there. Not very pleasant. How would you describe the food there? Do they have good meats? Ha. Are you an advocate of going early in the day and week for a less crowded, less aggressive atmosphere? Or do you like the more selection of women but more crowded atmosphere of late in the day and late in the week?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Food: Eatable. You will probably not get sick. But you would be better off if you left the place and ate a proper lunch somewhere else. Breakfast is OK, if the boring side. You pay for alcohol and the soft drinks are free.
Early vs late: Depends on the girl selection. As in preferred selection. If you fav girl works early then it pays off to head to Artemis around 12:00. However if you have no preference. Around 20:00 is good when it comes to diversity. I always found that early on the selections is bad but due to some of my fav girls working at that time I found the visit worthwhile. I don't find crowded atmosphere to be bad since many the LU is greater too.
Regardless vacation time is always bad for visiting Artemis since so many girls are gone and some of them that drop in in these times have bad service and / or are sharks.
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[QUOTE=VaeVictis;1762884]Food: Eatable. You will probably not get sick. But you would be better off if you left the place and ate a proper lunch somewhere else. Breakfast is OK, if the boring side. You pay for alcohol and the soft drinks are free.
Early vs late: Depends on the girl selection. As in preferred selection. If you fav girl works early then it pays off to head to Artemis around 12:00. However if you have no preference. Around 20:00 is good when it comes to diversity. I always found that early on the selections is bad but due to some of my fav girls working at that time I found the visit worthwhile. I don't find crowded atmosphere to be bad since many the LU is greater too.
Regardless vacation time is always bad for visiting Artemis since so many girls are gone and some of them that drop in in these times have bad service and / or are sharks.[/QUOTE]Should be going in early to mid October. So vacation timing should not be an issue. Thanks for the information. Does the food have meats or is it mostly just sweets and starches and such? Not the most important thing but am curious. Do the men swim in the nude like the women do in the pool? Also is traveling the you bahn or s bahn efficient enough that staying at a hotel in for instance Schoenberg would be manageable? I want to check out the street scene there as well as I have seen some beautiful women in various street videos and pics in that general area.
Thanks!
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Hotels
[QUOTE=Puttex;1762546]Hey,
I am going to Berlin 2 days in September or Oktober and firt I wonder if there are any dates those months that are relly bad going becouse it will be crowded, holiday I Germany or anything else?
And then I am looking for a good hotel walkingdistance from Artemis and I guess its ok and safe to walk there?
Or is taxi the best way?
Thanks in advance and I will let you guys know how it went here after! .[/QUOTE]Best two local hotels are Romantik (closest and cheapest) 5 minutes walk or Aspria - 1 minutes walk and great hotel with good gym and spa. 10 minutes walk. I've walked to the Art from these hotels 20 times without any problems. Enjoy and report back.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1763034] Also is traveling the you bahn or s bahn efficient enough that staying at a hotel in for instance Schoenberg would be manageable?[/QUOTE]Plug your journeys into Google maps and you'll get all the timetable information.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1763034]Should be going in early to mid October. So vacation timing should not be an issue. Thanks for the information. Does the food have meats or is it mostly just sweets and starches and such? Not the most important thing but am curious. Do the men swim in the nude like the women do in the pool? Also is traveling the you bahn or s bahn efficient enough that staying at a hotel in for instance Schoenberg would be manageable? I want to check out the street scene there as well as I have seen some beautiful women in various street videos and pics in that general area.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Swimming in the nude yes, but 'I have yet to see any of the girls go swimming.
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Another good day.
I visited Artemis again last Friday. I followed the usual pattern and arrived just after midday. This is so that I can spend the day at Artemis. As usual the food was OK, but no more.
The weather was hot and parts of the interior warm and humid. The outside facilities were much enjoyed. On this occasion the inside pool was enjoyed also. I was approached several times by prowling girls, especially in the kino. They did not appear to change the film during the day. One tall girl from Turkey tried hard to get me to a room but her frustration showed in bad temper when I would not go. I went to the room with Gabriel from Poland. I found her looks attractive, cute, nice smooth well proportioned body, good performer in the room. She was of good humour throughout. I saw her with another man later showing the same humour and how cute she was. The heat was effecting my performance and after Gabriel I decided to call it a day as far as going to rooms was concerned. I did hang about a bit more just looking at the fresh talent that was coming in. I saw this girl about 1905 mm tall, beautifully proportioned except for her breasts, which were proportionally smaller with large nipples. I had to go and have another look. Before Gabriel, I had Sheila from Austria. God looking and well proportioned, did well in the room. When I spoke to her later in the day she appeared to be a little less friendly. I left about 7 pm in the evening. I arrived and left at Westkreutz S Bahn station. On the way out I found that the ticket machine would not take coins, so I had to use paper money. Apart from that little difficulty there was no problem. Another good day was had at Artemis. Next time I will come back when the weather is cooler.
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Condom and ID's to be required?
Saw this unfortunate news. Anyone know if this is going to happen and when if it does will it take effect? I don't speak German so I cannot do much news research on it. Would the forced condom proposal effect Artemis too?
[URL]http://www.globalpost.com/article/6618371/2015/07/17/germany-sex-worker-id[/URL]
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My first time
Hi all,
I have almost read all the Artemis threads and thank you all for this, I will without doubt share my first experience with you guys. As a newbie I almost feel experienced in someway, although this is my first time to a FFK club LOL: the.
I would like to add a question tho, so far I learned that you have to talk to the girl and feel chemistry before going to the room. So you buy her a drink and talk to this girl for about 5-10 minutes and then you reject her, saying you don't feel the chemistry to go to the room, wouldn't that be rude? LOL.
Anyway I'm going the weekend 9th, 10th and 11th October, I would be glad if anyone is going, and wants to heads up while inside the club, as I properly will smell like fresh fish ready for the sharks LOL.
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[QUOTE=AznNick;1763728]Hi all,
I have almost read all the Artemis threads and thank you all for this, I will without doubt share my first experience with you guys. As a newbie I almost feel experienced in someway, although this is my first time to a FFK club LOL: the.
I would like to add a question tho, so far I learned that you have to talk to the girl and feel chemistry before going to the room. So you buy her a drink and talk to this girl for about 5-10 minutes and then you reject her, saying you don't feel the chemistry to go to the room, wouldn't that be rude? LOL.
Anyway I'm going the weekend 9th, 10th and 11th October, I would be glad if anyone is going, and wants to heads up while inside the club, as I properly will smell like fresh fish ready for the sharks LOL.[/QUOTE]First of all, you don't buy the girl a drink (I mean, you technically could, but it is not customary here). If the girl is thirsty, she just orders a drink from the bar.
Second, you should be able to make your decision relatively quickly based on a short initial chat, especially if you initiated the approach (max 1-2 minutes). If you initiate the approach and the chat continues a long time (e. G. 5-10 minutes or half hour), the girl will rightly be upset with you for wasting her time if the club is busy and you don't take her to the room. Still, you shouldn't go to the room with a girl if you're not feeling good about the way the conversation is going or if you start feeling red flags.
If she initiates the approach, you have a bit more leeway here in my book and you can just let things flow. If you don't initiate the approach, it is she who decided to waste her time chatting with you, not the other way around. Even in that case, however, you are leading her on a bit if you chat with her for 15-20 minutes and don't take her to the room.
Each situation and girl is different. There are exceptions to every rule and everything varies according to the particular situation. If you're a good looking guy that knows how to flirt with the girls and you're a stand-up comedian who is making them constantly laugh, they might enjoy spending an hour with you even if you don't take them to the room. Most guys don't have the personality to pull this off though. Usually, the girls are there to make money.
Just my two cents. Everyone here will give you their own advice which will differ from mine and you'll just have to figure out what works for you. With more experience, you will develop many of your own ways to gracefully exit conversations in kind ways without predisposing the girls to being upset that you didn't take them to the room. Probably not the best idea to say, "Sorry babe, this conversation sucked, not feeling the chemistry. Going to go look for a better chick now. " You'll manage to find much better conversation exits than that.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1763540]Saw this unfortunate news. Anyone know if this is going to happen and when if it does will it take effect?
[URL]http://www.globalpost.com/article/6618371/2015/07/17/germany-sex-worker-id[/URL][/QUOTE]This article seems to suggest that its provisions would go into effect as early as next year if the law is finalized. Very disturbing.
"Under the proposed new rules, German sex workers would have to register with authorities and carry a special identification card with them at all times starting next year. ".
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I don't know what is disturbing or wrong.
The problem is in the people's mind. Prostitution is a job as any other. And morality and religion is a way to hide the real nature of the world.
I know prostitution too and I don't think by testicles (or ovaries), such as I don't change my opinion according to the need to have an orgasm.
I am sure that is the best solution to make prostitution with the same respect of any other job and to make prostitution a honest job for everybody.
But in this case, the problem is not a morality or a religion, instead the problem is what prostitutes and pimps want to hide: wealth without paying fiscal contributions to society.
Drug trafficking, from pimps to prostitutes and from prostitutes to customers, since each sex market exists with a parallel market of light and heavy dope.
I am a honest person and I want each person is equal to all other persons. If prostitutes and pimps want to live outside the regular society, then they can't take advantage of social services because that should be deeply unfair for honest people.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1763814]This article seems to suggest that its provisions would go into effect as early as next year if the law is finalized. Very disturbing.
"Under the proposed new rules, German sex workers would have to register with authorities and carry a special identification card with them at all times starting next year. ".[/QUOTE]
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The contribution to society and then the proposed new laws
[QUOTE=AColonizer;1763829]I don't know what is disturbing or wrong.
The problem is in the people's mind. Prostitution is a job as any other. And morality and religion is a way to hide the real nature of the world.
But in this case, the problem is not a morality or a religion, instead the problem is what prostitutes and pimps want to hide: wealth without paying fiscal contributions to society.
If prostitutes and pimps want to live outside the regular society, then they can't take advantage of social services because that should be deeply unfair for honest people.[/QUOTE]Sorry for editing the post down to the above but I didn't understand why you meant by the rest of it. Prostitution is legal in Germany. The girls pay taxes. The clubs pay taxes. The only people who don't pay taxes are pimps and there are few in FKKs in my experience other than some who are "drivers" for girls and wait outside. They should be strung up not just paying taxes.
As to the proposed new laws: I've posted many times about what I consider to be the wholly unhealthy practice of BBBJ. I know people hate reading anything about STDs on these forums. I think that is just natural defensive mentality against spoiling this hobby (addiction?) for most. Truth is that this practice is not safe. Artemis is one of the best clubs in Germany (if not THE best) for safety in that there is a club doctor who the girls see often weekly if not definitely monthly. They trust the doctor. Most of the girls will tell you that they have never had an STD and they have only seldom come across it in any FKK. However the truth cannot be denied: if a new guy goes into an FKK with an infection and has BBBJ from Girl A, she then passes it to every guy she rooms with that day if she performs BBBJ. The doctor doesn't see the girl after every room! If she sees 10 guys that day she has infected people. Not her fault but she got it off the new guy. Then those 10 guys who got infected go to other FKKs and infect the people they room with and take BBBJ from. It is really quite unsafe. For those reasons, I think a law requiring condoms is right. For oral sex. Girls who (outside of FKKs) demand condoms for hand relief -- oh yes. It happens. Crazy. It is not possible to get an STD other than HPV (which can be caught from any human contact) from hand relief. So condoms for all intercourse and oral are fine with me and would make FKKs almost completely safe. There will be SO many guys reading this wanting to write "I've been doing this for 15 years and had 12000 BBBJs without a problem". That's what people always respond with. Please don't. Consider how silly that is. It's like saying you've lived 50 years and have visited dangerous places and never been murdered. Great for you. What about the one time it DOES happen? Escaping these issues for years does not mean you are invincible. You are not. Let's keep FKKs safe for everyone. If you love BBBJ then go buy Sagami condoms or equivalent online from Japan. No. I don't work for them! There are similar condoms which are. Wait for this 1/6th of the width of human skin. You don't know you have them on and they are so strong and safe despite being so thin. You won't know you've got one on and I can tell you I've never had a girl refuse to allow me to use my own condoms provided they are in the sealed packet first.
As for IDs for the girls? Is it so bad? If it means not one girl is trafficked then its a good thing.
So bad news? Not really. Could be good!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1763900] Most of the girls will tell you that they have never had an STD and they have only seldom come across it in any FKK. However the truth cannot be denied: if a new guy goes into an FKK with an infection and has BBBJ from Girl A, she then passes it to every guy she rooms with that day if she performs BBBJ. The doctor doesn't see the girl after every room! If she sees 10 guys that day she has infected people. Not her fault but she got it off the new guy. Then those 10 guys who got infected go to other FKKs and infect the people they room with and take BBBJ from. It is really quite unsafe. For those reasons, [/QUOTE]You are clearly overstating the risks. If a girl has a cold and kisses 10 different guys that day, it is not 100% certain that each and every one of those guys will get a cold. I've kissed plenty of girls who had a cold and I did not become infected with a cold afterwards.
Same thing with BBBJs. It is not simply enough that a person is infected. There are other factors in place (viral and bacterial loads, strength of immune system, etc). Indeed, the literature supports the fact that even with BBBJs with an infected person, the risk of actually passing an infection on to someone else is still really low. It is not zero, but it is rather low. Even with this low risk, for many types of infection, one can mitigate many of these risks by regular checkups and treatments / cures if something comes up.
There are risks with most activities in life (driving, working, etc). The presence of a risk doesn't necessarily mean that we automatically outlaw that activity, but instead, that we make intelligent choices about the activities we engage in and the risk we are each willing to accept. No one is forcing you to accept BBBJs. It is your choice (not yet at least, unless this law is passed).
In any case, this is not the safe sex thread, but the Artemis thread, so I'd recommend we get back to discussing Artemis.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1763930]You are clearly overstating the risks. If a girl has a cold and kisses 10 different guys that day, it is not 100% certain that each and every one of those guys will get a cold. I've kissed plenty of girls who had a cold and I did not become infected with a cold afterwards.
Same thing with BBBJs. It is not simply enough that a person is infected. There are other factors in place (viral and bacterial loads, strength of immune system, etc). Indeed, the literature supports the fact that even with BBBJs with an infected person, the risk of actually passing an infection on to someone else is still really low. It is not zero, but it is rather low. Even with this low risk, for many types of infection, one can mitigate many of these risks by regular checkups and treatments / cures if something comes up.
There are risks with most activities in life (driving, working, etc). The presence of a risk doesn't necessarily mean that we automatically outlaw that activity, but instead, that we make intelligent choices about the activities we engage in and the risk we are each willing to accept. No one is forcing you to accept BBBJs. It is your choice (not yet at least, unless this law is passed).
In any case, this is not the safe sex thread, but the Artemis thread, so I'd recommend we get back to discussing Artemis.[/QUOTE]Well said. I agree completely. I guess what would be best is to find someone who is adept at German to research Germany's news on this topic. Would it apply to BBBJ's? Would it apply to Artemis. And when? Pretty sad to see freedoms being lost in this way.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;1763183]Plug your journeys into Google maps and you'll get all the timetable information.[/QUOTE]If you look on the Bahn map, you notice the ring how the main part of the system circles. Good revelation when I realized that for the first time. You see one map showing a airplane sign(Tegel) with a bus route going to a train station which is part of the ring.
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African or Asian ladies at Artemis?
I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1764219]I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.[/QUOTE]Computer says yes.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=1236128[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1764219]I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.[/QUOTE]There are at least two Asian women that have been in Artemis whenever I was visiting except last weekend (one older, 40+, and one younger. Never sessioned with them). Black (African?) women are easier to find. But last time I was visiting (last weekend and July) there was only one present (bad sessions, strange / bad BJ technique and list of extras that other girls do for free).
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Ignorance is bliss. And dangerous!
[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1763978]Well said. I agree completely. I guess what would be best is to find someone who is adept at German to research Germany's news on this topic. Would it apply to BBBJ's? Would it apply to Artemis. And when? Pretty sad to see freedoms being lost in this way.[/QUOTE]I agree with UH that this is really a topic for the Safe Sex forum and not Artemis. However I was responding to a post here about the laws changing in Germany. Which is specific to Germany and not the whole of ISG (which Safe Sex is). Stats suggest Germany is high risk UH's point was entirely fair. It depends on many factors and of course it is always the choice for us all to say we want to use condoms even for BBBJ. I do, but I respect that others prefer not to and take the risk. But the figures here show that in Germany that risk is quite substantial albeit that they are extrapolated figures. [URL]http://www.rightdiagnosis.com/s/stds/stats-country.htm[/URL].
Enforcing the use of condoms is, I agree an interference with freedom of choice. I just wonder if the reason the law is even being contemplated in Germany is a response to very high figures and therefore an attempt to control them.
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Gina
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1764219]I may go and visit Artemis at the end of this year (first I have a trip to Thailand planned).
Do anybody of you know if there are African or Asian ladies working at Artemis? I checked their website but did not see any "exotic" women there.
Wolvenvacht.[/QUOTE]There is a beautiful black girl. Gina. Very pretty and great service. There are several other african girls. Two thai girls as reported by others.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1763900]Sorry for editing the post down to the above but I didn't understand why you meant by the rest of it. Prostitution is legal in Germany. The girls pay taxes. The clubs pay taxes. The only people who don't pay taxes are pimps and there are few in FKKs in my experience other than some who are "drivers" for girls and wait outside. They should be strung up not just paying taxes.
As to the proposed new laws: I've posted many times about what I consider to be the wholly unhealthy practice of BBBJ. I know people hate reading anything about STDs on these forums. I think that is just natural defensive mentality against spoiling this hobby (addiction?) for most. Truth is that this practice is not safe. Artemis is one of the best clubs in Germany (if not THE best) for safety in that there is a club doctor who the girls see often weekly if not definitely monthly. They trust the doctor. Most of the girls will tell you that they have never had an STD and they have only seldom come across it in any FKK. However the truth cannot be denied: if a new guy goes into an FKK with an infection and has BBBJ from Girl A, she then passes it to every guy she rooms with that day if she performs BBBJ. The doctor doesn't see the girl after every room! If she sees 10 guys that day she has infected people. Not her fault but she got it off the new guy. Then those 10 guys who got infected go to other FKKs and infect the people they room with and take BBBJ from. It is really quite unsafe. For those reasons, I think a law requiring condoms is right. For oral sex. Girls who (outside of FKKs) demand condoms for hand relief -- oh yes. It happens. Crazy. It is not possible to get an STD other than HPV (which can be caught from any human contact) from hand relief. So condoms for all intercourse and oral are fine with me and would make FKKs almost completely safe. There will be SO many guys reading this wanting to write "I've been doing this for 15 years and had 12000 BBBJs without a problem". That's what people always respond with. Please don't. Consider how silly that is. It's like saying you've lived 50 years and have visited dangerous places and never been murdered. Great for you. What about the one time it DOES happen? Escaping these issues for years does not mean you are invincible. You are not. Let's keep FKKs safe for everyone. If you love BBBJ then go buy Sagami condoms or equivalent online from Japan. No. I don't work for them! There are similar condoms which are. Wait for this 1/6th of the width of human skin. You don't know you have them on and they are so strong and safe despite being so thin. You won't know you've got one on and I can tell you I've never had a girl refuse to allow me to use my own condoms provided they are in the sealed packet first.
As for IDs for the girls? Is it so bad? If it means not one girl is trafficked then its a good thing.
So bad news? Not really. Could be good![/QUOTE]Let me clarify something. While there have been documented cases of std being passed to the man, there have not been any documented (or just one) case of a man contracting HIV when receiving a bank. So while the threat is low I. E. Not zero, the instance is so low as it has yet to happen. So, take your choice. For some, it is ok for bank and others not. It is the choice of the individual.
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[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;1764545]Let me clarify something. While there have been documented cases of std being passed to the man, there have not been any documented (or just one) case of a man contracting HIV when receiving a bank. So while the threat is low I. E. Not zero, the instance is so low as it has yet to happen. So, take your choice. For some, it is ok for bank and others not. It is the choice of the individual.[/QUOTE]Who's talking about HIV? HIV doesn't get passed from oral sex.
It's the other STD's that one has to worry about from BBBJ, and despite mongers generally sticking their heads in the sand. Is a very real issue.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1763808]First of all, you don't buy the girl a drink (I mean, you technically could, but it is not customary here). If the girl is thirsty, she just orders a drink from the bar.
Second, you should be able to make your decision relatively quickly based on a short initial chat, especially if you initiated the approach (max 1-2 minutes). If you initiate the approach and the chat continues a long time (e. G. 5-10 minutes or half hour), the girl will rightly be upset with you for wasting her time if the club is busy and you don't take her to the room. Still, you shouldn't go to the room with a girl if you're not feeling good about the way the conversation is going or if you start feeling red flags.
If she initiates the approach, you have a bit more leeway here in my book and you can just let things flow. If you don't initiate the approach, it is she who decided to waste her time chatting with you, not the other way around. Even in that case, however, you are leading her on a bit if you chat with her for 15-20 minutes and don't take her to the room.
Each situation and girl is different. There are exceptions to every rule and everything varies according to the particular situation...[/QUOTE]UH thank you for the info, I will try remember this, however it will properly be the wrong head thinking if its a very cute girl LOL.
But yes I will try to catch if there is a wrong feeling after a few minutes, usually I can judge by a girls smile and kindness.
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An outbreak. Of sense!
[QUOTE=DethManRulz;1764695]Who's talking about HIV? HIV doesn't get passed from oral sex.
It's the other STD's that one has to worry about from BBBJ, and despite mongers generally sticking their heads in the sand. Is a very real issue.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I am not sure why mongers are SO defensive about this. Every time anyone posts anything about risk they get rounded upon as if they'd committed a crime! It's simple this. There are STD risks in receiving and / or giving oral sex and exchanging bodily fluids. The risks are not that high. But they are increased if you or the person with whom you are sharing bodily fluids have multiple sexual partners. Both monger and sex workers in FKK fall into that category. I'm not being holy and virtuous here: I am a monger! I simply responded to a post suggesting a new law in Germany which will make condoms a requirement and I said that it is likely to be a reaction to large STD figures in Germany (which is true and the highest in Europe). I agree it's an interference with personal choice. But it is also probably sensible to reduce risks. I didn't mention HIV at all. Which requires unprotected intercourse to be passed in nearly every case. Which is not relevant in an FKK.
Anyway. As UH says. Let's get back to hearing how you guys are doing in the Art. Which girls are you enjoying and why. With or without the condoms!
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Free entry on birthday?
Do anyone of you know if Artemis or any other club around Berlin, grant you free entry on your birthday. Would be good to know as my birthday matches my travel dates to Berlin!
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[QUOTE=AznNick;1764761]UH thank you for the info, I will try remember this, however it will properly be the wrong head thinking if its a very cute girl LOL.
But yes I will try to catch if there is a wrong feeling after a few minutes, usually I can judge by a girls smile and kindness.[/QUOTE]Girls' smiles are fake.
Nah, just kidding. Lots of guys are loitering around small lockers and stairs and observing guys that have been just in a session. If he is happy = girl gives good service.
I know couple of punters that swear by this tactic. I personally think that if girl works well for someone else it doesn't mean that you two will click with her. The only advice I can give is to avoid optifucks. I swear any girl that I went with because of her looks turned into a bad session.
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[QUOTE=Sucker17;1765167]Do anyone of you know if Artemis or any other club around Berlin, grant you free entry on your birthday. Would be good to know as my birthday matches my travel dates to Berlin![/QUOTE]Artemis doesn't do that. So you better have those 80 euros ready when you enter or you'll be exiting pretty fast.
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[QUOTE=Sucker17;1765167]Do anyone of you know if Artemis or any other club around Berlin, grant you free entry on your birthday. Would be good to know as my birthday matches my travel dates to Berlin![/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Artemis doesn't grant free admission at your birthday.
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[QUOTE=DethManRulz;1764695]Who's talking about HIV? HIV doesn't get passed from oral sex.
It's the other STD's that one has to worry about from BBBJ, and despite mongers generally sticking their heads in the sand. Is a very real issue.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, and for some the risk is acceptable, and for some not. I am in the not camp, but I do not want to infringe on some else fun as it does not have any effect on me.
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How to get to Artemis
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1763999]If you look on the Bahn map, you notice the ring how the main part of the system circles. Good revelation when I realized that for the first time. You see one map showing a airplane sign(Tegel) with a bus route going to a train station which is part of the ring.[/QUOTE]Hi. Can someone provide directions how to reach Artemis. Bahn or whatever is the best public transport. How late does the Bahn run? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=SBTiger;1765449]Hi. Can someone provide directions how to reach Artemis. Bahn or whatever is the best public transport. How late does the Bahn run? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't know where you are coming from, but just to add to what I said about the public transport, the train ring on the map has two tracks that goes in opposite directions. If you look you will see Westkruez stop is one of the stops in the ring. Artemis is around the Westkruez stop, so you walk from there. If you are coming from the airport, you will see Tegel on bahn map with three buses hitting the ring (routes shown in purple from the airport). Buses X9 and 109 goes to Junfernheide station, and TXL goes to Buesselstrasse station. From either those stations you take the train to Westkruez.
Bahn map: [URL]https://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/pdf/VBB-Liniennetz.pdf[/URL].
Local transit website: [URL]http://fahrinfo.bvg.de/Fahrinfo/bin/query.bin/en[/URL].
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Geraldine from Hungary
Have you guys seen Geraldine from Hungary? Has she quit FKK business and left Artemis or?
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1766305]Have you guys seen Geraldine from Hungary? Has she quit FKK business and left Artemis or?[/QUOTE]Sessioned her 3 weeks ago. Beautiful girl. Fantastic BBBJCIM. I hope Bill Clinton had the same sensation during his visits and sessions in the oral office.
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Hotels
PL: Thanks, still to figure out the hotel. Everything seems insanely expensive 1st weekend of September. Is something going on in Berlin.
Any specific areas and hotels I could look at, as long as near some subway and restaurants etc. That should work for me.
Is there a place to store luggage at Artemis, just a tiny suitcase, I have a early morning flight on my way out.
Thanks again,
Sanjay.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1765456]I don't know where you are coming from, but just to add to what I said about the public transport, the train ring on the map has two tracks that goes in opposite directions. If you look you will see Westkruez stop is one of the stops in the ring. Artemis is around the Westkruez stop, so you walk from there. If you are coming from the airport, you will see Tegel on bahn map with three buses hitting the ring (routes shown in purple from the airport). Buses X9 and 109 goes to Junfernheide station, and TXL goes to Buesselstrasse station. From either those stations you take the train to Westkruez.
Bahn map: [URL]https://www.s-bahn-berlin.de/pdf/VBB-Liniennetz.pdf[/URL].
Local transit website: [URL]http://fahrinfo.bvg.de/Fahrinfo/bin/query.bin/en[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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IFA Messe which draws visitors to the city is from 4th to 9th of Sept, which is the reason for the hotel price hike. Look on Booking or [URL]Kayak.com[/URL]. I haven't done trips there much to give you specific recommendations on places to stay, but I look for rates on the websites. Possible there are places the websites don't come up, but I don't have info on those places. Look online and see if there are types of food you like, and do a search. Popular restaurants will show up on Yelp. It's probably worth checking out some hotspots in Berlin while you are there. There could be other online websites that Germans use for restaurant reviewing websites I'm not aware of. Quick foods tend to be pretty low priced in DE, I sometimes walk into a town square and get a wurst dog, other types of wurst like curry, small hamberger shops or chicken places, Turkish restaurants tend to be ok for quick bites. Big city, and I'm sure there are lots of places specializing in various cuisines. I tend to find closer authentic foreign places too like Chinese and Japanese tend to be good too. Most of my restaurant visits has been in Frankfurt actually when I used to stay in the city.
Maybe others familiar with Berlin could tell us any particularity to Berlin cuisine to seek out.
Artemis has a storage room if you ask the front desk, and you will probably see other luggages in there as well.
If you can provided us with how your visit went during the IFA Messe, that would be interesting.
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Thanks
Thanks PL for prompt reply, so this Messe is making a mess of everything. I almost can't find any hotel less than 200 . I have already bought my air tickets. So I will have to come up with some clever strategy.
I will wait for someone to respond about locations. Any suitable touristy location is OK. Need not be any prime location, some minutes from subway. That is all.
Thanks.
Sam.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1767535]IFA Messe which draws visitors to the city is from 4th to 9th of Sept, which is the reason for the hotel price hike. Look on Booking or [URL]Kayak.com[/URL]. I haven't done trips there much to give you specific recommendations on places to stay, but I look for rates on the websites. Possible there are places the websites don't come up, but I don't have info on those places. Look online and see if there are types of food you like, and do a search. Popular restaurants will show up on Yelp. It's probably worth checking out some hotspots in Berlin while you are there. There could be other online websites that Germans use for restaurant reviewing websites I'm not aware of. Quick foods tend to be pretty low priced in DE, I sometimes walk into a town square and get a wurst dog, other types of wurst like curry, small hamberger shops or chicken places, Turkish restaurants tend to be ok for quick bites. Big city, and I'm sure there are lots of places specializing in various cuisines. I tend to find closer authentic foreign places too like Chinese and Japanese tend to be good too. Most of my restaurant visits has been in Frankfurt actually when I used to stay in the city.
Maybe others familiar with Berlin could tell us any particularity to Berlin cuisine to seek out.
Artemis has a storage room if you ask the front desk, and you will probably see other luggages in there as well.
If you can provided us with how your visit went during the IFA Messe, that would be interesting.[/QUOTE]
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Fatima
Can anyone tell me if Fatima is still around?
Thanks.
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Using my own condoms in Artemis?
Can you bring and use your own condoms in Artemis and any other FKK??
I just bought some Aoni thinnest condoms in the world and it would be nice to use them in the FKK.
I know the answer is probably yes, but if the girl sees that the condom is really thin will she freak out and make you use hers?
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Bringing my own condoms to Artemis?
Do the girls care if I use my own condoms? Even if they are the super thin ones from China (Aoni) and the Sagami. 01 brands?
Do the girls thinks they are less safe?
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I've been at Artemis about 50 times (days), and I still don't know who this Fatima who I keep reading about here on the forum is. What does she look like? And where is she from? Can anyone discribe her?
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;1767709]Do the girls care if I use my own condoms? Even if they are the super thin ones from China (Aoni) and the Sagami. 01 brands?
Do the girls thinks they are less safe?[/QUOTE]I've heard about some guys bringing their own rubbers. It's probably up to the girl if she will accept them or not. I've been thinking about bringing some wider condoms myself but it could be a bit awkward if she doesn't accept to use them.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1767816]I've been at Artemis about 50 times (days), and I still don't know who this Fatima who I keep reading about here on the forum is. What does she look like? And where is she from? Can anyone discribe her?[/QUOTE]Quite tall, maybe 172 - 175 cm, very slim and athletic, black hair slicked back, cut shoulder length. Tramp stamp, plus small dragon head tattoo on her lower abdomen. A cup. I find her look to be very elegant. She's from Slovakia. Works the day shift and tends to hang out on her own at the far end of the bar.
My own view is that she will probably leave the club soon. Maybe she already left?
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Could be. My general impression is that the girls sitting at the far end of the bar doesn't really like the romanian sofa group.
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Artemis as couple?
Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;1767892]My own view is that she will probably leave the club soon. Maybe she already left?[/QUOTE]No. Not yet.
[QUOTE=Frozty;1767572]Can anyone tell me if Fatima is still around?[/QUOTE]She returned last week.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1767816]Can anyone discribe her?[/QUOTE]Check Artemis website, you'll find a last-year-pic of her backside there. Note: she usually doesn't wear that overknees.
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[QUOTE=Pharisaer;1768015]No. Not yet.
She returned last week.[/QUOTE]Thanks Pharisaer.
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[QUOTE=ChernosoBranie;1767973]Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.[/QUOTE]Female guests not allowed.
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Black Girls at Artemis
Did anybody have an experience with a black girl at Artemis. Am going to Berlin this week for the IFA show and was hoping somebody would have some suggestions for me.
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[QUOTE=DigiMan65;1768288]Did anybody have an experience with a black girl at Artemis. Am going to Berlin this week for the IFA show and was hoping somebody would have some suggestions for me.[/QUOTE]I would recommend Valesca and Gina.
Gina is from Namibia and gives great service. Curvy figure, long hair extensions. Maybe 165 cm. Excellent English and very friendly. I suspect that she might be very high maintenance in the real world!
Valesca is German, but of African descent. I can't remember which country. Slim, be cup. Amazing ass. Can be a bit passive in the room, but is very beautiful and tries to please. Her English was not so good, although I have not been with her for some time.
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I also recommend Valeska. She is German-African like Frozty writes.
I spent three times in the room with her last year on my visits.
I think she's one of the most beautiful girls there and very cute. I would definitely spend time with her again if I went to Artemis.
She's still my favourite black girl in the world.
Another one I recommend is Kimi from Kenya.
Funny thing is all of my experiences with black girls are from Artemis. I have never met attractive black girls on other FKK clubs.
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Valesca
Her mother is German and her father is from Mozambique. She kind of looks like Rihanna.
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Valesca or Valeska
Is the name she uses written as Valesca or Valeska?
I never figured to ask.
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[QUOTE=Guy93;1768382]Is the name she uses written as Valesca or Valeska?[/QUOTE]According to Artemis website, the correct spelling is Valeska.
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[QUOTE=ChernosoBranie;1767973]Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.[/QUOTE]As someone already responded female guests are not allowed at Artemis but I have read several comments here on ISG that some of the Hessen clubs welcome female guests.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1768457]As someone already responded female guests are not allowed at Artemis but I have read several comments here on ISG that some of the Hessen clubs welcome female guests.[/QUOTE]I think Oase allows couples. I saw a nebbishy looking guy with his frumpy Asian girlfriend there once. She seemed like she was enjoying herself more than he was! I think I understand. If you go there with a partner, you have to be careful about not seeming like you're enjoying yourself too much, lest you inspire jealousy in your partner!
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German / Arabic Girl?
Damn, there's this one girl that I was with 3-4 weeks ago but I didn't catch her name!
She had dark hair, half German and half Arabic, and had a piercing on her lip. Not 100% sure on the German part, but half Arabic for sure. She had an accent. 5'8+.
Anyone know her?
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Has anyone seen Cheyenne at Artemis lately? She's the best girl I have ever sessioned with at the Art and I have met her more than once. Hope to see her on my next visit in a couple of months.
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[QUOTE=Boostafa;1768511]Damn, there's this one girl that I was with 3-4 weeks ago but I didn't catch her name!
She had dark hair, half German and half Arabic, and had a piercing on her lip. Not 100% sure on the German part, but half Arabic for sure. She had an accent. 5'8+.
Anyone know her?[/QUOTE]Sounds like Sina / Zina. Does she have a pistol tattoo on her hip?
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;1768457]As someone already responded female guests are not allowed at Artemis but I have read several comments here on ISG that some of the Hessen clubs welcome female guests.[/QUOTE]Oh well, thanks for that. Never heard of Hessen clubs will look them up now and possibly move onto plan B.
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Female guests
[QUOTE=ChernosoBranie;1768889]Oh well, thanks for that. Never heard of Hessen clubs will look them up now and possibly move onto plan B.[/QUOTE]Hello ChernosoBranie.
I have personally seen a party of 4 or 5 men bring in 2 female companions at Mainhatten. These girls were issued robes, just like the men and partied in and around the bar area with bottle service. Later, I saw the group head over to the hot tubs for a quick nude skinny dip. I cannot say for sure what Mainhatten's policy is, but I would give them a call if you are still interested in inviting your female companion.
Best of luck.
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=ChernosoBranie;1767973]Hi all,
Wondering what it would be like visiting Artemis as a couple with my GF? The idea is to choose a girl to play with as a threesome, maybe even one of the clients if they wanted to join us. Failing that, just to have a drink and enjoy the atmosphere. I know swinger clubs are plentiful in Germany, but after telling her of my visits to FKK clubs she is keen to see one.[/QUOTE]I have visited a Club in Bremen together With my girlfriend and a Place outside Bremen, about one hour witth car, Dolce Vita is the Place. She liked both Places a lot, but my girl friend likes Young guys so she liked Dolce Vite best of them. I could recommend both this Places if you want to bring Your wife or girlfriend. To me it were a great experience and I enjoyed watching my girlfriend getting fucked by other men and she enjoyed it herself a lot as well, She spent time With four men in a day and the best session she had were With two men at the same time. She were on all four and, butt up and the first one did her very quick and the second replaced him and did her from rear as well.
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[QUOTE=Septimus1974;1769619]I have visited a Club in Bremen together With my girlfriend and a Place outside Bremen, about one hour witth car, Dolce Vita is the Place. She liked both Places a lot, but my girl friend likes Young guys so she liked Dolce Vite best of them. I could recommend both this Places if you want to bring Your wife or girlfriend. To me it were a great experience and I enjoyed watching my girlfriend getting fucked by other men and she enjoyed it herself a lot as well, She spent time With four men in a day and the best session she had were With two men at the same time. She were on all four and, butt up and the first one did her very quick and the second replaced him and did her from rear as well.[/QUOTE]I think you are referring to swinger clubs now. Even in the FKK clubs where women are allowed entry they are not allowed to have sex with the male visitors.
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Quick question
Hi folks, just a quick question. Do the ladies still get tested every couple weeks?
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[QUOTE=DethManRulz;1770152]Hi folks, just a quick question. Do the ladies still get tested every couple weeks?[/QUOTE]I just watched some manager chasing girls to the second floor for what I think is testing. So, I assume the answer is: yes.
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[QUOTE=BlueSwede;1770163]I just watched some manager chasing girls to the second floor for what I think is testing. So, I assume the answer is: yes.[/QUOTE]LOL, hopefully the ladies don't have something to hide.
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Blankets?
Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1770281]Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.[/QUOTE]No. Towels are your only option.
I'd worry about hygiene issues anyway.
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Artemis visit 04/09 and 05/09
Crazy house due to messe. Girls claimed that it was up to one hour waiting time at second floor for free room. I left early on Friday due to crowds.
Lineup was OK-ish. Good variation both on Friday and Saturday compared to my earlier visit but not earthshattering. Saw Jenna but no Holly. Jennai (name? Girl with glasses is recommended due to massage skills (if you are into it. She charges as much as the masseurs downstairs but I prefer her 30 min of massage much more due to stuff that happens afterwards.).
Honestly I got bit bored by Artemis so I will look for change of scenery.
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[QUOTE=DethManRulz;1770171]LOL, hopefully the ladies don't have something to hide.[/QUOTE]I think they are reluctant to miss valuable "production" time. .
At other times I have seen something similar, but then they all came down with a band aid on their arms.
I have the impression Artemis is on top on health issues as good as possible.
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[QUOTE=Boostafa;1768511]Damn, there's this one girl that I was with 3-4 weeks ago but I didn't catch her name!
She had dark hair, half German and half Arabic, and had a piercing on her lip. Not 100% sure on the German part, but half Arabic for sure. She had an accent. 5'8+.
Anyone know her?[/QUOTE]I had a Hungarian / Arabic girl named Loreen. Nice athletic body, long dark silky hair. I reviewed her around August 10th. Very hot time and very good BJ.
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Did anyone get a sense that quite a few dudes in Artemis didn't get any pussy? It's got to be pretty sad if you can't get laid in a working girl house. I went solo but saw groups of guys that never had any women around them the entire time.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1770281]Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.[/QUOTE]When I visited Artemis in January they were using sheets on the beds. During all the other visits they have been using towels. If you want a blanket and cuddling I think an hotel escort is a better choice. An FKK is more of a Mc Donald's drive in whereas a hotel escort is fine a la carte dining.
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[QUOTE=MaxSquatter;1770281]Ha here's a silly question but one that had been on my mind. Do the rooms have any blankets on the beds? I unfortunately am a bit of a romantic and enjoy blankets for cuddling afterwards. Haha forgive my sentimentality.[/QUOTE]Romantic? Sentimentality? Dude, you're getting a raw BJ and sex for about $70. I think cuddling afterward would be considered a fetish that she would charge extra for.
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[QUOTE=Maxx;1770941]Did anyone get a sense that quite a few dudes in Artemis didn't get any pussy? It's got to be pretty sad if you can't get laid in a working girl house. I went solo but saw groups of guys that never had any women around them the entire time.[/QUOTE]More likely they rejected girls enough girls that they are no longer bothered by them. Or the girls know them (as in they know they go only for certain girls or they know that they spent all their money). Then you have the jerk brigade that gets avoided except by the most desperate girls.
I noticed that by my fourth visit the girls started to recognize me and the sharks stopped bothering me. So I can sit in the bar alone, being bothered by the only new girls while other girls greet me and tell me that my favorite is busy or on vacation. So for you I would be looking like I am most of the time. But even the guy weighing 150 kg with lots of acne on his face will get laid in Artemis. And if he likes stuff that girl charges extra for (except anal) he will be very popular indeed. Don't have the slightest illusion that your look matters (I had car accident which left its marks on my face. Not had any negative reaction in Artemis in contrast to the ones I get from girls in real life.).
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Carrie
Hi,
Does anybody know if the little, tattooed, Bulgarian girl Carrie is in the Artemis at the moment.
I did like her funny but slutty way in the room a lot.
Thanks for an answer.
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She's one of the best looking girls I've seen around the FKK clubs and her service is ok not more then this but only to be with such a bomb in the same room is a pleasure.
I don't know if she's in the club now but I hope she will be in November when ill visit.
[QUOTE=DarkMan8;1775333]Hi,
Does anybody know if the little, tattooed, Bulgarian girl Carrie is in the Artemis at the moment.
I did like her funny but slutty way in the room a lot.
Thanks for an answer.[/QUOTE]
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Who's about?
Upcoming return to Artemis (not been since summer) - can anyone tell me if Cecile and Ruby are back? Both blonde, sit at far end of bar as you enter the lounge towards the dining room. Also pretty small brunette Joanne (Kazikstan)? And finally my fav from last trip. Debby? Just wondered if all / any of them are still in the club before I return? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;1776771] Also pretty small brunette Joanne (Kazikstan)?.[/QUOTE]Is she Borat's sister? LOL.
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Mrs Borat!
[QUOTE=NilleCopenhagen;1776805]Is she Borat's sister? LOL.[/QUOTE]Not sure or even might be his Mrs. Either way. Pretty as anything and very sexy though had she worn a lime green mankini I'm not so sure I'd have taken her to the room!