Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2592269]FLCCC is reporting their I (ivermectin) -MATH protocol is not working in hospitalized patient due to delta.

They are recommending ivermectin as early as possible for both vax and un-vax people to prevent hospitalization.

The reality is no one will do a gold standard study on something that is as cheap as candy.[/QUOTE]Glad they're amending their recommendations. Damage control perhaps.

To name a few larger trials:

NIH-Emory-Duke (n=15000 patients).

[URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04885530?term=Ivermectin&recrs=abdefghim&fund=0&draw=2&rank=3[/URL]

Oxford (n = * currently 5000+).

[URL]https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial[/URL]

Anticov-Africa (n=3000).

[URL]https://dndi.org/research-development/portfolio/anticov/[/URL]

Currently 75 other ongoing trials:

[URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results/details?term=ivermectin&cond=COVID-19&draw=4&rank=29[/URL]#.

Meanwhile, main cited trial by FLCCC withdrawn over ethical concerns and data manipulation:

[URL]https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/ivermectin-still-lacks-scientific-support-as-a-covid-19-drug-69049[/URL]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns[/URL]

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2592325]Yikes, you're so full of yourself. Are you really so delusional that you believe the BS you write or just mentally fucked up that lying comes automatically for you?

You are unable to understand simple statistics and draw (pretty obvious) conclusions from it.[/QUOTE]Definitely full of myself. Maybe also a little delusional. No to the latter 2.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592022]But Pessismist. He's just a basic, rigid dork. At least the others have eccentricities that provide some entertainment value.[/QUOTE]How pathetic! Begging for support. Such a typical be'sian. Must have been the habit you picked up mugging ladies and children as a small time thug in China town but afraid to do it alone and begging others to join you. Be a man and fight your own fights, loser.

Germany is turning orange-red again with more artificial "cases:

[URL]https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/coronavirus-karte-deutschland-101.html[/URL]

Good to see that the "vaccines" are the (final?) solution! Keep on hoping for more lockdowns and keep on getting "jabbed" with an experimental gene therapy folks, this is clearly the way out of this PlanDemic! / sarc.

Lockdowns and "vaccines" have clearly been the wrong strategy, but as Einstein said:

[QUOTE] The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2592441]How pathetic! Begging for support. Such a typical be'sian. Must have been the habit you picked up mugging ladies and children as a small time thug in China town but afraid to do it alone and begging others to join you. Be a man and fight your own fights, loser.[/QUOTE]When they go racial, you know you've won. But if want to duke, I'm down.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2592407]I got him to admit he want to control and distract people. He do have knowledge, I will give him that. He do have a lot of time and use what he know to control and distract.[/QUOTE]When? Where? Fantasy land?

Can and want are two different things.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592022]Go with the most likely scenario after analyzing the evidence versus what your ideologies want them to be. These ultra conservatives, conspiracy theorists, super cyclists, etc want to form reality around their beliefs rather than processing reality.

But Pessismist. He's just a basic, rigid dork. At least the others have eccentricities that provide some entertainment value.[/QUOTE]Whenever they hear hoofbeats they keep expecting to see a zebra. This is the type of people most likely to join a cult, they certainly behave like they have already joined a cult. Strange how they can never, ever admit being wrong on the smallest thing even if the evidence hits them on the head.

I admit getting my share of fun triggering Mr Citroen 2 CV. The super fit, hung like a horse unique person in the entire world who keeps getting wedding nights from virgin Victoria's Secret models.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592406]4 Negative tests in as many weeks plus vaccinated. Think that means I'm balancing being responsible with living my life. Probably what everyone should be doing.

Apparently mentioning race about once every 500 or so posts amounts to "half". Strange math.

I'll refer to McA's posts as my "defense" that you desire.

I think you're just still sore that I called you out for promoting deportation of innocent, non-jihadist muslims. And also for being a cheating scumbag whose matrimonial vows are exemplary of a shitty moral compass.

You're a pretty dumb smart guy. Aka dork.[/QUOTE]Since I am generally quite careful in my speech and actions and hardly ever do / say anything suggestive of racism or sexism in personal or professional life, how you characterize me hardly matters. I would not become something because you call me so. I stand by my comments about Islamic terrorists in Europe and would not shed a tear if they were all deported or wiped out.

Your comments history on the other hand reeks of half baked nonsense about racism. You throw that charge around recklessly as you do with all your shit. Very typical of a guy with zero self control. But then your hypocrisy comes through. Women are Karens, Chinese are ching chongs, Turkish are this, Americans are that. You take more umbrage when I call for action against thuggish terrorists but love your CCP overlords who murdered dozens of millions in the last year alone.

Get this: most sensible people judge others on their actions and not words. No one here nor in the western democracies in general is taking deeply racist actions or hurting others on the basis of race. Your CCP bosses wiped out millions in Tibet, wiping out millions in Xinjiang, have a giant, province sized concentration camp in there; and unleashed a virus that perpetrated a genocide that killed people across the world but your only reply was to nitpick that it was not a genocide because they killed more than one race or group of people.

And you post diatribes, not quoting others mind you but your own nonsensical diatribes linking physical looks and education to racism, and when challenged your only retort is throwing personal insults. I don't know, but some might say that is very typical of uneducated retards.

As for the 4 negatives, what a load of crap! After the fact analysis does not change that you believed, or sanctimoniously pontificated about the dangers posed by this virus and yet hypocritically ignored them. If you rail against the dangers of smoking and then smoke ten cigars a day yourself, you are still a hypocrite even if you never got cancer. You believed it was a threat, you posted a million comments about it, cited Fauci and others, and proceeded to do exactly what they would have told you not to do. My infidelity is none of your business; I bet a majority of club goers are in some kinda marital or other relationship, and I did not preach against infidelity. In fact, even on this site, many posters might very well be married but hiding their status; I never did. Your inability to understand hypocrisy is as striking as the frequency and magnitude with which you practice hypocrisy in your own life.

Recently I told a hooker that I was thinking about getting vaccinated. Her reaction stunned me. She shouted "Are you crazy? "Why would you want to do that? I doubt if she would have reacted so enthusiastically if I told her I was thinking of taking cyanide. What is it with these anti-vaxxers?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2592599]Recently I told a hooker that I was thinking about getting vaccinated. Her reaction stunned me. She shouted "Are you crazy? "Why would you want to do that? I doubt if she would have reacted so enthusiastically if I told her I was thinking of taking cyanide. What is it with these anti-vaxxers?[/QUOTE]Most of the Romanian WGs had the same reaction. Of the ones I knew, only the ones who have lived in De for several years and have integrated thought differently. Cultural I assume. Relatively optimistic western attitude was skittish, don't-trust-the-government Eastern block attitude I guess.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592418]Glad they're amending their recommendations. Damage control perhaps.

To name a few larger trials:

NIH-Emory-Duke (n=15000 patients).

[URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04885530?term=Ivermectin&recrs=abdefghim&fund=0&draw=2&rank=3[/URL]

Oxford (n = * currently 5000+).

[URL]https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial[/URL]..[/QUOTE]Glad to see you will accept some on going study as good enough. As, I posted it in the past, the few study that you found saying IVM does not work are erroneous and manipulated.

You just lost your credibility. Real scientist / Doctor are never married to a position. The data is what it is.

In the past the FLCCC all way said that ivermectin works at all stage of covid. However, due to it anti-viral activity, the sooner you take it the better. With Delta, they tweeted out that it fail in hospitalized patient and are demoralized. It no longer work in the ICU and they have to use more labor intensive therapy to save their patient. And recommend taking IVM as soon as possible to stay out of the hospital. That is the kind of doctor that I want, one with interest to save people life and not dogmatically stuck to a position.

Speaking of Oxford, the FLCCC advocate using dexamethasone early in the pandemic, they even testified in the US Senate of how it save life in their ICU and there is no need for so many people to die. All of the public health institution was against it and everyone saying that they are crazy and killing people. A month later, Oxford study come out with a dexamethason, you know the rest, it became standard of care.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2592599] I doubt if she would have reacted so enthusiastically if I told her I was thinking of taking cyanide. What is it with these anti-vaxxers?[/QUOTE]Because they don't listen to Arnold the t 800.

[URL]https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x83dpeu[/URL]

They prefer to go on Facebook to read that global warming is a joke, that the holocaust didn't happen, that the Jews left the building before the planes crashed on the 11th of September and so on.

There is an algorithm on Facebook which, according to your level of stupidity, only offers you articles to reinforce your stupidity. So finally the most afflicted will find a way to suppress themselves (cults did that too). A kind of great reset.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2592599]Recently I told a hooker that I was thinking about getting vaccinated. Her reaction stunned me. She shouted "Are you crazy? "Why would you want to do that? I doubt if she would have reacted so enthusiastically if I told her I was thinking of taking cyanide. What is it with these anti-vaxxers?[/QUOTE]Almost all FKK girls don't trust the vaccine, at least the girls I am in touch with. All of them are not vaccinated and don't have any plan to get the vaccine. And almost all of them are happily back at Sharks, Oase, Globe etc etc. When I tell them that I am vaccinated, they send me laughing emojis and tell me "you could just get the vaccine papers" LOL.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2592505]Germany is turning orange-red again with more artificial "cases:

[URL]https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/coronavirus-karte-deutschland-101.html[/URL]

Good to see that the "vaccines" are the (final?) solution! Keep on hoping for more lockdowns and keep on getting "jabbed" with an experimental gene therapy folks, this is clearly the way out of this PlanDemic! / sarc.

Lockdowns and "vaccines" have clearly been the wrong strategy, but as Einstein said:[/QUOTE]Not sure when will people have enough. This is a forever pandemic. I hope that I'm wrong, but the vaccine is going to create variant that will go after younger people.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2592599]Recently I told a hooker that I was thinking about getting vaccinated. Her reaction stunned me. She shouted "Are you crazy? "Why would you want to do that? I doubt if she would have reacted so enthusiastically if I told her I was thinking of taking cyanide. What is it with these anti-vaxxers?[/QUOTE]Why haven't you already gotten vaccinated if you didn't have any question marks about it yourself?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592432]Definitely full of myself. Maybe also a little delusional. No to the latter 2.[/QUOTE]No one cares, you're a pathetic loser.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2592407]I got him to admit he want to control and distract people. He do have knowledge, I will give him that. He do have a lot of time and use what he know to control and distract.[/QUOTE]But what's the point of doing on a fucking p4p website? He's definitely a weirdo.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2592599]Recently I told a hooker that I was thinking about getting vaccinated. Her reaction stunned me. She shouted "Are you crazy? "Why would you want to do that? I doubt if she would have reacted so enthusiastically if I told her I was thinking of taking cyanide. What is it with these anti-vaxxers?[/QUOTE]I was told they pay families in Romania to lie about their family members having died from covid when they actually died from something else. Easy money.

Either way, the pro-vaxxers have now so many experts on their side that I'm not sure for how much longer us anti-vaxxers will told on:

[URL]https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210813-serbian-cave-hermit-gets-covid-19-jab-urges-others-to-follow[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2592599]Recently I told a hooker that I was thinking about getting vaccinated. Her reaction stunned me. She shouted "Are you crazy? "Why would you want to do that? I doubt if she would have reacted so enthusiastically if I told her I was thinking of taking cyanide. What is it with these anti-vaxxers?[/QUOTE]Turgid, our 20 minutes DATY champion, willing to slobber 20 minutes on a hooker's pussy with all kinds of possible STDs, bacteria, and viruses, but wants an experimental and barely tested "vaccine" because he is afraid of a flu with a 0,23% Infection Mortality Rate, as proven by Prof. John Ioannidis. LOL!

You never really explained your 'logic' behind sticking your tongue deep in a WG's pussy and simultaneously being scared of viruses and bacteria:

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2591826]Hahahaha, one of the biggest "older bloke" Covidiot fear mongers here with "comorbidities" is scared of a virus with an Infection Mortality Rate of 0,23%, but has no problem to catch an STD or any other bacterial or viral infection from licking a prostitute's pussy for 20 minutes! LOL! You got to love the 'reasoning' behind this!

Question Turgid: what if an "older bloke with comorbidities" catches an STD or any other viral-bacterial infection from visiting prostitutes? Is that okay? What if YOU spread that virus to another prostitute and another "older bloke" customer "with comorbidities" catches it? Your DATY has then caused that other person to end up in a hospital or worse, that person dies because of a bacterial infection or a virus that YOU spread around? Did you ever worry about that in 2019? Do you even worry about it now in 2021? Have you ever even thought about this, or considered your extremely selfish and limited reasoning? I seriously doubt it.

The following little bit is sarcasm, yet also a mirror for all the irrational fear-mongers here:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2592691]No one cares, you're a pathetic loser.[/QUOTE]I'm rubber and you're glue.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2592572]Whenever they hear hoofbeats they keep expecting to see a zebra. This is the type of people most likely to join a cult, they certainly behave like they have already joined a cult. Strange how they can never, ever admit being wrong on the smallest thing even if the evidence hits them on the head.[/QUOTE]Hah! That's a medical student adage. I see you sir!

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2592636]You just lost your credibility. Real scientist / Doctor are never married to a position. The data is what it is.[/QUOTE]No shit, that's exactly what I've said. You're married to Ivermectin and without solid proof.

Most studies are paid for bogus.

There was recently a study regarding the vaccine in relation to sperm count. And the researchers while not saying anything before the first ejaculation had told the participants not to ejaculate for two weeks before the second. And still this study has been flouted as great evidence and used by the delusional pro vaxxers alot.

Sheep!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2592594]Since I am generally quite careful in my speech and actions and hardly ever do / say anything suggestive of racism or sexism in personal or professional life, how you characterize me hardly matters. I would not become something because you call me so. I stand by my comments about Islamic terrorists in Europe and would not shed a tear if they were all deported or wiped out.

Your comments history on the other hand reeks of half baked nonsense about racism. You throw that charge around recklessly as you do with all your shit. Very typical of a guy with zero self control. But then your hypocrisy comes through. Women are Karens, Chinese are ching chongs, Turkish are this, Americans are that. You take more umbrage when I call for action against thuggish terrorists but love your CCP overlords who murdered dozens of millions in the last year alone.

Get this: most sensible people judge others on their actions and not words. No one here nor in the western democracies in general is taking deeply racist actions or hurting others on the basis of race. Your CCP bosses wiped out millions in Tibet, wiping out millions in Xinjiang, have a giant, province sized concentration camp in there; and unleashed a virus that perpetrated a genocide that killed people across the world but your only reply was to nitpick that it was not a genocide because they killed more than one race or group of people..[/QUOTE]Criticizes others about diatribes, posts 500 word essay. Hilariously ironic.

"Careful about racist words", advocates for mass deportation and sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters.

"Judge by actions not words" but can't take people using common meme-speak.

Adulterer.

Panties moisty and bunched up into hairy asshole.

Shitty human.

All above character flaws probably due to high school trauma because you were a huge douchey dork. Your daddy should have slapped you in the face with your mother's big black dildo for being such a fucking tool.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2592692]But what's the point of doing on a fucking p4p website? He's definitely a weirdo.[/QUOTE]Hahah, for shit and giggle.

In my personal life, people with a background in virology agree with me. People with background in other field of biology, well, I pretend to be a pro-vaxxer and stay away from the topic. They get so emotional when they suspect I think differently. It kind of insane. I can't really say what I think.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2592697]I was told they pay families in Romania to lie about their family members having died from covid when they actually died from something else.[/QUOTE]Yup I personally know 2 girls whose close relatives (one case mom, another case grandma) died from something else in Romania and received between 500 and 400 euros to sign such Covid-death papers. It's not a myth, it's really real.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2592697]I was told they pay families in Romania to lie about their family members having died from covid when they actually died from something else. Easy money.[/QUOTE]That is BS. I know many Romanians, not just prostitutes. That is definitely not happening other than in the facebook tin foil hat cults.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2592690]Why haven't you already gotten vaccinated if you didn't have any question marks about it yourself?[/QUOTE]That deserves a 'Duh' answer. Of course I haven't got it because I have questions about it. I am always cautious about things which is why I am neither a billionaire nor a pauper LOL. I am trying to glean sense from the anti-vaxxers but I am getting a lot of hot air and no substance. My position, however, is for each person to decide for themselves what to do and what not to do. My decision will be made after I am satisfied from careful study and not frantic hype. When I have arrived at my decision I am not going to try to convince anyone either way.

The anti vaxxers are a cult with a strong far right wing flavor. When you want some answers about existential questions, do you ask the Davidians or the church of scientology?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592791]Criticizes others about diatribes, posts 500 word essay. Hilariously ironic.

"Careful about racist words", advocates for mass deportation and sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters.

"Judge by actions not words" but can't take people using common meme-speak.

Adulterer.

Panties moisty and bunched up into hairy asshole.

Shitty human.

All above character flaws probably due to high school trauma because you were a huge douchey dork. Your daddy should have slapped you in the face with your mother's big black dildo for being such a fucking tool.[/QUOTE]BTW, the very worst racists have always been among the Asian crowd; even the worst KKK goon will be blushing in the presence of these thugs. Some of these people practice the worst colorism in the world. I bet this shitbucket Murse feels superior in the presence of anyone with dark skin but keeps crying about White racism on this forum. I have many Asian friends but sometimes it makes me cringe seeing the colorism displayed by some of these douchebags.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2592862]That is BS. I know many Romanians, not just prostitutes. That is definitely not happening other than in the facebook tin foil hat cults.[/QUOTE]A large segment of the population seems to have a need to be part of an exclusive, clever, in-group, that has "figured it out". Along with that, they also have a belief that everyone else has been brainwashed. For instance, I am not married, so I have no reason to be defensive. But there are mongers here who want to spam the board constantly with messages about how the monger lifestyle is superior and anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot. I obviously love the mongering lifestyle, but I do not feel the need to convince myself that I chose the superior path.

With social media, all you need to be able to do is create emotion (fear, anger). Push people's buttons and do it before their ADHD kicks in. Regardless of whether they lean left or right, people get their news, investment advice, fashion advice from ADHD-friendly mediums (Facebook, Tik-tok, and Instagram). People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. Really? The Republican party could not find someone more articulate and less emotionally impulsive? Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]A large segment of the population seems to have a need to be part of an exclusive, clever, in-group, that has "figured it out". Along with that, they also have a belief that everyone else has been brainwashed. For instance, I am not married, so I have no reason to be defensive. But there are mongers here who want to spam the board constantly with messages about how the monger lifestyle is superior and anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot. I obviously love the mongering lifestyle, but I do not feel the need to convince myself that I chose the superior path.

With social media, all you need to be able to do is create emotion (fear, anger). Push people's buttons and do it before their ADHD kicks in. Regardless of whether they lean left or right, people get their news, investment advice, fashion advice from ADHD-friendly mediums (Facebook, Tik-tok, and Instagram). People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. Really? The Republican party could not find someone more articulate and less emotionally impulsive? Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.[/QUOTE]When this is just a failure to have to pay for women, and better to know it, with so many who are so frustrated about women.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.[/QUOTE]At the same time, Shapiro picks on idealistic college kids and "owns" them. Or other empty shell liberal talking heads. Put him up on live discussion against another well educated person with differing viewpoints and he crumbles or gets quiet.

Honestly, even though someone like Joe Rogan is technically a "liberal," he is probably one of the best advocates for common sense, conservative positions.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2592973]That deserves a 'Duh' answer. Of course I haven't got it because I have questions about it. I am always cautious about things which is why I am neither a billionaire nor a pauper LOL. I am trying to glean sense from the anti-vaxxers but I am getting a lot of hot air and no substance. My position, however, is for each person to decide for themselves what to do and what not to do. My decision will be made after I am satisfied from careful study and not frantic hype. When I have arrived at my decision I am not going to try to convince anyone either way.[/QUOTE]Fair and well-reason way to think. Good attitude.

Obviously I feel that I am fairly educated to speak on the subject and sometimes make the occasional "just get the vax comment", but in professional practice, all we can do is just give people the facts, correct the misinformation, and let people choose for themselves.

Questioning authority is a also my primary mode, but like you, I still have yet to see many well formed arguments on this topic from the antivax camp outside of ideologically-based hot air.

One profession whose professional opinion is hardly ever promoted are the clinical pharmacists. I have yet to see a single one lean anything other than "potential good outweighs potential bad" regarding these vaccines. Molecular scientists on the other hand operate out of laboratory and academic theory.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593027]BTW, the very worst racists have always been among the Asian crowd;[/QUOTE]I 100% agree.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593027] I bet this shitbucket Murse feels superior in the presence of anyone with dark skin but keeps crying about White racism on this forum. I have many Asian friends but sometimes it makes me cringe seeing the colorism displayed by some of these douchebags.[/QUOTE]Ah, now your prejudice makes more sense.

On a population level, Asians are racists as fuck. White people enslaved a continent and sold black people as cattle. Slaughtered indigenous people and Jews. Assyrian Arabs think they are the superior race. Potatoes and po-tah-toes.

As an individual human, you're still fuckin' awful.

C_'est La Vie.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population..[/QUOTE]Yup, some good fun on this thread is when the usual suspects post a link to an article, then you when you get past the title or the opening paragraph to see that the article is of the opposite view of what the poster said.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2593097]When this is just a failure to have to pay for women, and better to know it, with so many who are so frustrated about women.[/QUOTE]In the USA there is a shortage of women and most women are old and past menopause. The majority of immigrants are men from Mexico jumping across the river to the USA unlike Germany where most travelers are women from Eastern Europe.

The sex ratio is very bad in the USA and the legal system makes it risky to have sex at all unless one wants Black women who will have bareback sex with anyone but then sue for child support. The white women are prone to file sex crimes claims or fake assault charges etc. Which is part of the corrupt legal system in the USA plus there are many more men than there are women and the single women are usually over 45 years old.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2592862]That is BS. I know many Romanians, not just prostitutes. That is definitely not happening other than in the facebook tin foil hat cults.[/QUOTE]And you know everything?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2592837]Yup I personally know 2 girls whose close relatives (one case mom, another case grandma) died from something else in Romania and received between 500 and 400 euros to sign such Covid-death papers. It's not a myth, it's really real.[/QUOTE]Yes I was told about it by a couple of different Romanian girls.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2592791]Criticizes others about diatribes, posts 500 word essay. Hilariously ironic.

"Careful about racist words", advocates for mass deportation and sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters.

"Judge by actions not words" but can't take people using common meme-speak.

Adulterer.

Panties moisty and bunched up into hairy asshole.

Shitty human.

All above character flaws probably due to high school trauma because you were a huge douchey dork. Your daddy should have slapped you in the face with your mother's big black dildo for being such a fucking tool.[/QUOTE]Is 500 too much for your pea sized brain? Perhaps 5 Chinese characters is more your style?

"advocates for mass deportation " - it must cause you pain when your favorite Islamic thugs are denounced.

"sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters." - Who else besides you? Your second handle? Anyway, I called you a CCP thug.

"can't take people using common meme-speak. " Nice way to weasel your way out of taking responsibility for the nonsense you typed here.

"black dildo" - LOL. Speaking about your experiences growing up in the AMP that someone mentioned on this thread? In your case, might not have been a dildo, might have been slapped by a real thing. Sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered.

BTW, you still have and't replied why you are not a hypocrite for looking to spread the virus after talking endlessly about virus dangers; and how ugliness and education are so linked to racism. Is that from a survey in China done by your CCP masters?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593078]With social media, all you need to be able to do is create emotion (fear, anger). Push people's buttons and do it before their ADHD kicks in. Regardless of whether they lean left or right, people get their news, investment advice, fashion advice from ADHD-friendly mediums (Facebook, Tik-tok, and Instagram). People read the headlines and the memes, not actually clicking on the article itself. The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. Really? The Republican party could not find someone more articulate and less emotionally impulsive? Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate, but Shapiro has a fraction of their following.[/QUOTE]"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - OK, Mr. Pundit. Didn't know that you were the authority on this subject. But I guess someone made you the god and gave you the power to judge an entire country as being dumbed down. I bet your posse will step in to support you though.

Unless by dumbing down, you are talking about the illegal immigration of dumbfucks like Murse that did bring down this country.

For someone who guards your own identity and nationality so securely, you do like to attack Americans at every opportunity, don't you?! Which population do you hail from and how much increase in intelligence has that group seen? Our economy and GDP are doing awesomely at this time, apparently all this dumbing down did not hurt us. Perhaps jealousy does funny things to some people.

"Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate" - as you see it.

No one from the media, especially the liberal media thought Trump won any of the debates and yet he won the primaries.

Shapiro appeals to you perhaps because you agree with him or find him less threatening than Tucker is; be that as it may, Tucker's ratings are coming from paying users. That you agree more personally with Shapiro's positions have no bearing on it. You can't wish way things you don't agree with.

It is amusing that foreigners are always so concerned about drift in the US politics and paint doomsday scenarios and wish that things happened in a different way. The fate of this country, the direction we take are in the hands of the voters of this country. I may not agree with many things that happen in my country but if voters vote that way, they did. SO be it. I don't come to the German forums and demand or even wish that they voted this way or that way. I respect their right to choose their own path. Even on something as simple as 2017 rule change, if German legislators wanted to change their laws on sex, that's their prerogative. I don't pass halfassed assessments that the populations or legislators are dumbed down. Talk about being fucking arrogant.

Here is a question: the people of China don't even have a right to make their own choices. In the past few years, their government has taken far more dramatic changes in their direction that we ever did in the west. They have threatened Japan and South Pacific nations about territorial claims, constantly threatening Taiwan, abrogated all rights in HK, and now actively canceling numerous property rights in their country and especially going after foreign investors who funded the very development of their country. And yet, I don't see any murmur from some people here but they are so eagerly concerned about every small change in US politics and painting it in alarmist terms.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2593316]And you know everything?[/QUOTE]No, I don't know everything, I never claimed that. But I certainly know more than somebody whose preferred sources of information includes dog portrait painters.

I have spent time in Romania for work and know quite a few people from there or still living there, not just prostitutes. Romanian people I know have degrees in computer science up to PhD, a few of them from universities in US, UK or Germany, I know 3 doctors, one dentist, some quants with advanced math degrees, one math prof at a university, a few engineers, etc.

I admit, none of them paints portraits of dogs or hamsters.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593337]"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - OK, Mr. Pundit. Didn't know that you were the authority on this subject. But I guess someone made you the god and gave you the power to judge an entire country as being dumbed down. I bet your posse will step in to support you though.

For someone who guards your own identity and nationality so securely, you do like to attack Americans at every opportunity, don't you?! [/QUOTE]What you see as attack, I see as constructive criticism. You have a pot-smoking teenage son in your house, you ride his ass because there still exists an opportunity to remediate and correct. You have a 50 year old son still living in your basement? That's a lost cause. You kick him out of the house, and give him his inheritance early to ease your guilt.

Social media is dumbing down populations worldwide, not just USA. Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:

[QUOTE]It literally changes your relationship with society, with each other. It probably interferes with productivity in weird ways. God only knows what its doing to our childrens brains, he said.

He explained that when Facebook was being developed the objective was: How do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible? It was this mindset that led to the creation of features such as the like button that would give users a little dopamine hit to encourage them to upload more content.

Its a [b]social-validation feedback loop[/b] exactly the kind of thing that a hacker like myself would come up with, because you're exploiting a vulnerability in human psychology.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/09/facebook-sean-parker-vulnerability-brain-psychology.[/QUOTE]We have more information at our fingertips than our grandparents did. And in theory we can interact with more diverse pools of people. But in reality, we look only for people who think like us. Case in point, I am monger, and I am on a forum with other like-minded mongers. So that "information highway" just becomes a bias superhighway.

Online communities can act as a crutch. It is fine when it is supplementary, but when it becomes one's only sense of community, that is a slippery slope. This loneliness epidemic is more a first-world problem and will only get worse in ageing Western countries. Japan and Korea became wealthy relatively recently. That "catch up" mode created an overwork culture and we are starting to see the consequences of that now. China may face a similar fate in the next 2-3 decades.

USA politics is world politics. And it has been that way for over 100 years. You pull any random person in Africa, the Middle East, Europe, or Japan. Less than 25 percent would know Xi Jinping. You ask them to name American politicians past and present, and they would easily name five. That speaks to America's place in the world.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593112]At the same time, Shapiro picks on idealistic college kids and "owns" them. Or other empty shell liberal talking heads. Put him up on live discussion against another well educated person with differing viewpoints and he crumbles or gets quiet.[/QUOTE]I do not know that many political pundits, so I will take your word for it on that assessment. But between Shapiro, Trump, and Tucker Carlson, who is the Harvard-educated lawyer? Do not need Wikipedia to know the answer that. My point is success is now based on how well you polarize. That is the new cultural currency.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593319]Is 500 too much for your pea sized brain? Perhaps 5 Chinese characters is more your style?

"advocates for mass deportation " - it must cause you pain when your favorite Islamic thugs are denounced.

"sorts 2 people who disagree with him as CCP supporters." - Who else besides you? Your second handle? Anyway, I called you a CCP thug.

"can't take people using common meme-speak. " Nice way to weasel your way out of taking responsibility for the nonsense you typed here.

"black dildo" - LOL. Speaking about your experiences growing up in the AMP that someone mentioned on this thread? In your case, might not have been a dildo, might have been slapped by a real thing. Sorry to hear about the abuse you suffered.

BTW, you still have and't replied why you are not a hypocrite for looking to spread the virus after talking endlessly about virus dangers; and how ugliness and education are so linked to racism. Is that from a survey in China done by your CCP masters?[/QUOTE]You seem frustrated. Take a breath little guy.

I'll leave it up to you to answer your own bullet points that have already been answered. Quoting your posts in the past that directly refuted your own claims has always resulted in you just ignoring your own false claims. Not surprising give presumed weasel-like character. You're a shitty human who has constructed a phoney clean image. It's pretty clear.

As for 2 people, well pretty sure you also suggested McA to also have CCP allegiance based on what you know about a person's race.

In the past I've made the comment asking you to try harder in your retort. I take it back. You tried, and it's clear you have no comedic ability, just lame anger.

Seriously, who uses "thug" as an insult? What a tool.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593337]"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - OK, Mr. Pundit. Didn't know that you were the authority on this subject. But I guess someone made you the god and gave you the power to judge an entire country as being dumbed down. I bet your posse will step in to support you though.

Unless by dumbing down, you are talking about the illegal immigration of dumbfucks like Murse that did bring down this country.

For someone who guards your own identity and nationality so securely, you do like to attack Americans at every opportunity, don't you?! Which population do you hail from and how much increase in intelligence has that group seen? Our economy and GDP are doing awesomely at this time, apparently all this dumbing down did not hurt us. Perhaps jealousy does funny things to some people.

"Within the right-wing world, someone like Ben Shapiro would own Tucker Carlson and Trump in a debate" - as you see it.

No one from the media, especially the liberal media thought Trump won any of the debates and yet he won the primaries.

Shapiro appeals to you perhaps because you agree with him or find him less threatening than Tucker is; be that as it may, Tucker's ratings are coming from paying users. That you agree more personally with Shapiro's positions have no bearing on it. You can't wish way things you don't agree with..[/QUOTE]Yet, another essay when criticizing others of diatribes. The lack of self-awareness is glaring.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593412]Social media is dumbing down populations worldwide, not just USA. Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:

We have more information at our fingertips than our grandparents did. And in theory we can interact with more diverse pools of people. But in reality, we look only for people who think like us. Case in point, I am monger, and I am on a forum with other like-minded mongers. So that "information highway" just becomes a bias superhighway.[/QUOTE]Counterpoint. Is it dumbing down populations or is it just taking previously unheard voices (often poorly informed or conspiratorial) and giving them podiums?

I like to think that the people of the past who would have otherwise educated themselves on a subject are still making the initiative to read entire articles, critically analyze, and verify facts / claims.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593337]"It is amusing that foreigners are always so concerned about drift in the US politics and paint doomsday scenarios and wish that things happened in a different way. The fate of this country, the direction we take are in the hands of the voters of this country. I may not agree with many things that happen in my country but if voters vote that way, they did. SO be it. I don't come to the German forums and demand or even wish that they voted this way or that way. I respect their right to choose their own path. Even on something as simple as 2017 rule change, if German legislators wanted to change their laws on sex, that's their prerogative. I don't pass halfassed assessments that the populations or legislators are dumbed down. Talk about being fucking arrogant.[/QUOTE]McA,

What Passport do you carry? What does your birth certificate say? Are you a "foreigner?" Alas, whatever the answer, you'll always be a foreigner in the eyes of a bigot. The more I hear him, the more it seems that he's probably a patent office workhorse. He clearly does not exude "boss" energy.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593412]What you see as attack, I see as constructive criticism. You have a pot-smoking teenage son in your house, you ride his ass because there still exists an opportunity to remediate and correct. You have a 50 year old son still living in your basement? That's a lost cause. You kick him out of the house, and give him his inheritance early to ease your guilt.

Social media is dumbing down populations worldwide, not just USA. Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:

We have more information at our fingertips than our grandparents did. And in theory we can interact with more diverse pools of people. But in reality, we look only for people who think like us. Case in point, I am monger, and I am on a forum with other like-minded mongers. So that "information highway" just becomes a bias superhighway.

Online communities can act as a crutch. It is fine when it is supplementary, but when it becomes one's only sense of community, that is a slippery slope. This loneliness epidemic is more a first-world problem and will only get worse in ageing Western countries. Japan and Korea became wealthy relatively recently. That "catch up" mode created an overwork culture and we are starting to see the consequences of that now. China may face a similar fate in the next 2-3 decades.

USA politics is world politics. And it has been that way for over 100 years. You pull any random person in Africa, the Middle East, Europe, or Japan. Less than 25 percent would know Xi Jinping. You ask them to name American politicians past and present, and they would easily name five. That speaks to America's place in the world.[/QUOTE]How is it constructive criticism when you characterize an entire nation, or at least half of them who voted for a specific person as having ADHD and have been dumbed down? That is an ad hominem attack at best.

But your point about Shapiro has been made in liberal media about Romney, Kasich, Kinzinger, etc. They and others are liberal media's fav conservatives. The reality is that definition of conservativism has shifted. What they like, dislike, their values, who they want to represent them, how they see themselves, all of it. Again, you don't agree with that shift and wish that things were as they were in 1980's or 1990's with Rockefeller Republicans still in charge, that is all fine but that is not the reality. People change and it is their prerogative. But you can't express your disappointment at this shift by calling them dumb and having ADHD. That is arrogance of the highest order. If you think you believe in Democracy but accept only verdicts that suit your values, then you are not a believer in democracy.

I am not talking about being aware of US vs Chinese politicians, names etc. -- that is a very superficial observation. I am talking about passing judgements. The shifts in US actions due to shifts in US politics are miniscule as compared to the seismic shifts that are happening in China as they unfold in front of our eyes. Xi effectively became president for life. Remember the amount of media outrage when Trump thought aloud if he followed Putin / Xi in that regard. The changes on property rights in the last 9 months in China are absolutely massive. The country is morphing into a socialist country completely. Entire sectors have been wiped out. And they have become extremely bellicose. I forgot earlier they also got into a skirmish with India a year or two ago. It is a huge hypocrisy to totally stay silent on all these issues but hold a magnifying glass on every small inequity / oddity in the US. And we are not even talking about their conduct w. r. T. Covid.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593412] Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:


Online communities can act as a crutch. It is fine when it is supplementary, but when it becomes one's only sense of community, that is a slippery slope. This loneliness epidemic is more a first-world problem and will only get worse in ageing Western countries..[/QUOTE]This is totally unrelated to the original post that kickstarted this; but a few things:

The first short video format site was vine, which got acquired by TWTR and which basically killed it; Tik Tok launched a couple of years later; Douyin operates in China but the parent company Bytedance bought musical. Ly which is the foundation of tik tok.

It is true that format became popular at mass level in China than internationally; FB focused on IG and copied many features of Snap; I know FB has regretted leaving the short video space to Tik Tok to this extent.

I don't know if social media causes ADHD and attention shortening or if that was already there and social media provides an outlet. The BBC link even disputes attention spans are truly short now.

I do know social media companies do tons of research about users interact with media / internet and tailor their products. This sort of research was simply not done 30 years ago, the ability to dissect the data at that scale was not there. Here is one link.

[URL]https://helplama.com/human-attention-span/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/health-38896790[/URL]

Apps like tik tok know exactly how many times users open their app, how long they stay before moving on, what they are doing when they open the app, are they in the car, in the train, in between classes in school walking to a new classroom, sitting on a toilet, sitting on the couch watching sports on TV but tuning into the app between commercial breaks, WG checking into the social app while taking a break with the John, whatever. They commission studies to study every aspect of these details; the end goal is to bring the user more frequently to the app, keep the user engaged for longer time on the app, and of course show them more targeted ads and making them buy stuff, then and there.

I don't know the attention span itself has changed that much over time, but 30 years ago technology had not advanced sufficiently to provide the perfect distraction to the user as efficiently as they can do today.

I have no interest in characterizing these changes as good or bad. They are what they are. Change is the only constant and there is no point bemoaning them. The way you grew up is very likely vastly different from how your great grandpa might have; was that good or bad?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593112]At the same time, Shapiro picks on idealistic college kids and "owns" them. Or other empty shell liberal talking heads. Put him up on live discussion against another well educated person with differing viewpoints and he crumbles or gets quiet.

Honestly, even though someone like Joe Rogan is technically a "liberal," he is probably one of the best advocates for common sense, conservative positions.[/QUOTE]"Put him up on live discussion against another well educated person with differing viewpoints and he crumbles or gets quiet" -- name one that can crumble Ben Shapiro? Oh wait, there's none! LOL.

I agree about Joe Rogan. He's good.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2593361]No, I don't know everything, I never claimed that. But I certainly know more than somebody whose preferred sources of information includes dog portrait painters.

I have spent time in Romania for work and know quite a few people from there or still living there, not just prostitutes. Romanian people I know have degrees in computer science up to PhD, a few of them from universities in US, UK or Germany, I know 3 doctors, one dentist, some quants with advanced math degrees, one math prof at a university, a few engineers, etc.

I admit, none of them paints portraits of dogs or hamsters.[/QUOTE]So you don't know anything related to personalized targeted advertisements then?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593412]Social media is dumbing down populations worldwide, not just USA. Tiktok, the ultimate ADHD teenager app, was first popularized in China! Sean Parker on the addictive nature of social media:
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pessimist;2593473]How is it constructive criticism when you characterize an entire nation, or at least half of them who voted for a specific person as having ADHD and have been dumbed down? That is an ad hominem attack at best.[/QUOTE]Man look at all of those longwinded diatribes.

Anyway, sort of ad hominem, but the wrongful assumptions due to one posters rage, probably bleeding from the eyes, "bleeding from who knows where else," is clearly displayed. Other poster wasn't even singling out the USA in his very general post about effects of social media and short attention span.

And the meantime, Indians have barely been vaccinated, so one would expect MILLIONS and MILLIONS of deaths in a country with 1,4 billion inhabitants, a lot of poverty and poor hygiene, and a mediocre healthcare system. Instead India has embarked on a strategy of treatment versus the insane Chinese-Western strategy of "Zero CoNvid. "

[URL]https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Yes, exactly. Ask yourself why India’s success against the Delta variant with Ivermectin is such a closely guarded secret by the NIH and CDC. Second, ask yourself why no major media outlets reported this fact, but instead, tried to confuse you with false information by saying the deaths in India are 10 times greater than official reports.[/QUOTE]We've seen what happened with the so-called "British Mutation" in the European winter, which was a complete fiasco for all the scaremongers, so it quietly disappeared off the radar and was replaced with hype about "the Indian Variant. " And now the "Indian Variant" has been silently rebranded as the "Delta Plus Variant" because unfortunately for all the scaremongers, the dead bodies are NOT piling up in India so the Western-Chinese media never mention India anymore.

Oh, and what about herd immunity? Well here it is in India: [URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-govt-survey-shows-two-thirds-have-coronavirus-antibodies-2021-07-20/[/URL].

One month ago, 67% of Indians had antibodies:

[QUOTE]Two-thirds of Indians have coronavirus antibodies, survey shows[/QUOTE]But of course the Reuters scaremongers and "fact checkers" desperately try to fan the flames of fear, but now one month after this Fake News Reuters bullshit was published, still NO millions of deaths in India for the remaining third of Indians:

[QUOTE]"One out of three, wherever you are, ... is still vulnerable and therefore the pandemic is no way over," he said.[/QUOTE]The truth is that the remaining 33% of Indians probably also now have antibodies, and of course no mention of Ivermectin from the 'Reuters fact checkers. ' LOL!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2593558]"Put him up on live discussion against another well educated person with differing viewpoints and he crumbles or gets quiet" -- name one that can crumble Ben Shapiro? Oh wait, there's none! LOL.

I agree about Joe Rogan. He's good.[/QUOTE]Here's Rogan on Shapiro:

[URL]https://youtu.be/GZ05qhduOH0[/URL]

Ro Khanna with Ben.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Y_K00erN1mA[/URL]

When a rational, non-emotional person debates Ben, he has a much harder time defending his points. He excels against liberal college kids and political talking heads.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2593685]And the meantime, Indians have barely been vaccinated, so one would expect MILLIONS and MILLIONS of deaths in a country with 1,4 billion inhabitants, a lot of poverty and poor hygiene, and a mediocre healthcare system. Instead India has embarked on a strategy of treatment versus the insane Chinese-Western strategy of "Zero CoNvid. "....[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460[/URL]

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2593685]And the meantime, Indians have barely been vaccinated, so one would expect MILLIONS and MILLIONS of deaths in a country with 1,4 billion inhabitants, a lot of poverty and poor hygiene, and a mediocre healthcare system. Instead India has embarked on a strategy of treatment versus the insane Chinese-Western strategy of "Zero CoNvid.[/QUOTE]Where, sitting in front of your face. India excess deaths low end estimated at 2 million, high end up to 5 million. That's close to the official covid numbers for the entire world.

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260872v1[/URL]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2593418]I do not know that many political pundits, so I will take your word for it on that assessment. But between Shapiro, Trump, and Tucker Carlson, who is the Harvard-educated lawyer? Do not need Wikipedia to know the answer that. My point is success is now based on how well you polarize. That is the new cultural currency.[/QUOTE]He's certainly not an idiot. I actually agree with him more often than not, especially when he was starting out. He's obviously well educated and actually truly believes in his ideology. My grievances toward him is just that he always tends to pick on people working with less information than him.

But as for his popularity, it is a function of his audience. He doesn't speak to emotion as much as to the somewhat more intellectual point. Naturally, he will never be as popular as a Trump or a Carlson because he's speaking to a smaller population.

Personally, I think he's a dweeb. Fun video about his critique on Wet Ass Pussy song:

[URL]https://youtu.be/d3pjh4Xyl0s[/URL]

What a tool. His personality is how I envision Pessimist in real life.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593473]The shifts in US actions due to shifts in US politics are miniscule as compared to the seismic shifts that are happening in China as they unfold in front of our eyes. Xi effectively became president for life. Remember the amount of media outrage when Trump thought aloud if he followed Putin / Xi in that regard. The changes on property rights in the last 9 months in China are absolutely massive. The country is morphing into a socialist country completely. Entire sectors have been wiped out. And they have become extremely bellicose. I forgot earlier they also got into a skirmish with India a year or two ago. It is a huge hypocrisy to totally stay silent on all these issues but hold a magnifying glass on every small inequity / oddity in the US. And we are not even talking about their conduct w. r. T. Covid.[/QUOTE]America is seen as the leading nation of the free world, while China is not part of the free world. They should not be held to the same standard. While China made some progress since the times of Mao (millions of landowners executed during the land reform, the great Chinese famine due to the "Great Leap Forward", the cultural revolution), post Mao then Tiananmen square, protests in HK, etc, I don't think many people think China is a free country. I'll admit that they made good economic progress in the last decades, and this is probably why there isn't more unrest in China. The hypocrisy is that most countries and large corporations try to not antagonize China so that they can do business with them.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593464]Yet, another essay when criticizing others of diatribes. The lack of self-awareness is glaring.[/QUOTE]I accused you of diatribes, loser. McA has long winded essays and replies to his essays involves equally long essays. You should skip them; or read them translated into Chinese.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593463]You seem frustrated. Take a breath little guy.

I'll leave it up to you to answer your own bullet points that have already been answered. Quoting your posts in the past that directly refuted your own claims has always resulted in you just ignoring your own false claims. Not surprising give presumed weasel-like character. You're a shitty human who has constructed a phoney clean image. It's pretty clear.

As for 2 people, well pretty sure you also suggested McA to also have CCP allegiance based on what you know about a person's race.

In the past I've made the comment asking you to try harder in your retort. I take it back. You tried, and it's clear you have no comedic ability, just lame anger.

Seriously, who uses "thug" as an insult? What a tool.[/QUOTE]Haha, the 5'7' midget has the audacity to call others little. The irony. Oh my.

I have no idea what is McA's ethnicity; he has not talked about it, afaik; but he clearly has an anti US + sympathetic to China stance in his comments. That appeals to a CCP thug like you.

You will never have any real replies. It is all meme speak or locker room talk. Don't understand why dump on Trump.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593733]He's certainly not an idiot. I actually agree with him more often than not, especially when he was starting out. He's obviously well educated and actually truly believes in his ideology. My grievances toward him is just that he always tends to pick on people working with less information than him.

But as for his popularity, it is a function of his audience. He doesn't speak to emotion as much as to the somewhat more intellectual point. Naturally, he will never be as popular as a Trump or a Carlson because he's speaking to a smaller population.

Personally, I think he's a dweeb. Fun video about his critique on Wet Ass Pussy song:

[URL]https://youtu.be/d3pjh4Xyl0s[/URL]

What a tool. His personality is how I envision Pessimist in real life.[/QUOTE]A loser that defecates in the car that he sleeps in to save money on hotels is highly qualified to speak about personalities, sure. Homeless panhandlers in NYC have better life than you do.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593727]Where, sitting in front of your face. India excess deaths low end estimated at 2 million, high end up to 5 million. That's close to the official covid numbers for the entire world.

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260872v1[/URL][/QUOTE]When it's India, suddenly conspiracy time believes the numbers of the government.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593741]I accused you of diatribes, loser. McA has long winded essays and replies to his essays involves equally long essays. You should skip them; or read them translated into Chinese.[/QUOTE]Jesus Christ, how dense are you.

You: criticize others of diatribes.

D. Proceed to write long winded diatribes.

Dense like a fucking brick wall.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2593734]America is seen as the leading nation of the free world, while China is not part of the free world. They should not be held to the same standard. While China made some progress since the times of Mao (millions of landowners executed during the land reform, the great Chinese famine due to the "Great Leap Forward", the cultural revolution), post Mao then Tiananmen square, protests in HK, etc, I don't think many people think China is a free country. I'll admit that they made good economic progress in the last decades, and this is probably why there isn't more unrest in China. The hypocrisy is that most countries and large corporations try to not antagonize China so that they can do business with them.[/QUOTE]It is not a free country but it is also a country where nationalistic feelings run quite high. And their leaders are able to whip them up into anti foreign sentiments in a targeted fashion. A few years ago around the time of dispute related to Senkaku islands, mobs went on a rampage destroying Japanese cars in China. In the last couple of years with Meng Wanzhou imprisoned and Trump putting Hua Wei on entity list, pro Hua Wei sentiment inside China went up even more; even as Hua Wei kept losing smartphone sales outside China, their share inside China expanded that much more. They may have no freedom on wechat to criticize their own government in even the most muted manner, but their people are able to vent and issue all sorts of threats v foreigners in most graphics terms and they often do; Aussies and others on the receiving end in the last year know that too.

As for not holding them to the same standard, why not? Their actions have more detrimental impact on the rest of this world than that of any other nation. None more than Europe. Most of European tech firms have been hollowed out due to theft of IP by China. 20 years ago, Europe dominated global telecom networks. Now, the combined value of Nokia, Ericsson (Alcatel and Siemens and Lucent / Bell Labs -- all of these disappeared, bought by Nokia) is less than half of food delivery company in China called Meituan. All of Europe's share went to Hua Wei of course. US is not great but at least we recognized the threat posed by China a bit better than Europeans did, who are happily handing the keys to their future to this most evil regime.

I agree with you re: hypocrisy of corporations. None has been a bigger booster of CCP than Wall Street, very unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593814]A loser that defecates in the car that he sleeps in to save money on hotels is highly qualified to speak about personalities, sure. Homeless panhandlers in NYC have better life than you do.[/QUOTE]Yawn, more uninteresting dribble from a square who lives in a rigid box.

Promotes deportation of innocent people. Labels Asians he doesn't agree with him as CCP. Lectures others about racial shit. Cheats on spouse. Easily prodded to anger. Weak human. Get better or Go suck on a covid swab and stick it up your tight asshole.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593851]Jesus Christ, how dense are you.

You: criticize others of diatribes.

D. Proceed to write long winded diatribes.

Dense like a fucking brick wall.[/QUOTE]Anything more than 5 characters must seem like a diatribe to your pea sized brain. I assume it got permanently impaired in that stowaway fishing boat through which you got smuggled into the US.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593893]Anything more than 5 characters must seem like a diatribe to your pea sized brain. I assume it got permanently impaired in that stowaway fishing boat through which you got smuggled into the US.[/QUOTE]Someone fix the robot, it's stuck on a repeat. Yawn.

People.

Take your vaccine or don't. Take ivermectin or don't. It time to let it burn through the population and go back to normal life.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593886]Yawn, more uninteresting dribble from a square who lives in a rigid box.

Promotes deportation of innocent people. Labels Asians he doesn't agree with him as CCP. Lectures others about racial shit. Cheats on spouse. Easily prodded to anger. Weak human. Get better or Go suck on a covid swab and stick it up your tight asshole.[/QUOTE]My rigid box is quite comfortable, thank you very much; likely far better than whatever you have. And no, I don't lecture anyone on racial shit, that is your specialty, the race warrior turd. Except of course, just a week ago you were venting against Turks and have racially ridiculed Hispanics, Blacks, Indians and other dark skinned folks on this very forum. As for Covid, I am quite safe and unlike you did not infect anyone. You are the homicidal thug sent by CCP here to infect and take out a few Americans, we all know.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2593708][URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460[/URL][/QUOTE]Hahaha, typically fake news from the Big Black Cock news outlet.

If 4 million Indians have died in a short period of a few months, you would have seen a MASS tragedy and the western news would be full of it every day. In Kabul airport a handful of people died, and a few thousand people stormed the tarmac, and the western news is all over this. Why not over to alleged 4 million dead Indians? Wouldn't the CommunistNewsNetwork (CNN) and the BigBlackCock News be all over this 24/7?

The fact is: there is no story because nothing happens and the Indians have the situation under control with Ivermectin, which contradicts the Bill Gates-Epstein-BigPharma plan of experimental mRNA vaccines. [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html[/URL].

Funny and strange that if millions die in a third world country then it's "true," but if millions do NOT die in a third world country then this is "fake news" and "not true. " LOL!

[QUOTE]Researchers from the US-based Center for Global Development used three different data sources to estimate India's excess all-cause mortality during the pandemic until 21 June.[/QUOTE][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Global_Development[/URL]

By the way, since when is a "think tank" known for objective medical science? Think tanks are hired guns, churning out 'reports' and 'studies' that big corporations, news outlets and corrupt politicians use to advance their agenda.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2593734]America is seen as the leading nation of the free world, while China is not part of the free world. They should not be held to the same standard. While China made some progress since the times of Mao (millions of landowners executed during the land reform, the great Chinese famine due to the "Great Leap Forward", the cultural revolution), post Mao then Tiananmen square, protests in HK, etc, I don't think many people think China is a free country. I'll admit that they made good economic progress in the last decades, and this is probably why there isn't more unrest in China......[/QUOTE]I think freedom to eat when you're hungry and to fuck when you're horny are the greatest freedoms.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2594123]I think freedom to eat when you're hungry and to fuck when you're horny are the greatest freedoms.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/lLCEUpIg8rE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2594123]I think freedom to eat when you're hungry and to fuck when you're horny are the greatest freedoms.[/QUOTE]They still have the freedom to eat but the food delivery company I mentioned (Meituan) has come under pressure from their crazy regulators of late (however, Meituan has other parts in addition to food delivery). When it comes to sex, there is one frequent contributor in the sugar daddy thread on ISG who has been living in China for a while (he is from the US Midwest) and is having a ball boinking the Chinese chicks and he seems happy and thrilled. That said, in the seismic shifts in China in the last 9 months, internet is front and center of all problems and Chinese apps on meetings, entertainment, other have come under huge pressure. There is a company called Tantan, the equivalent of our [URL]match.com[/URL], and the owner / parent of Tantan is getting its head handed to it; government is talking about vulgarity, good values blah blah. Kinda dumb, because the purported motive of the government in putting into motion all the crazy regulatory pressures in the last year is to increase their population which has from all accounts been falsified, especially on the children side; some reports say their population may be in actuality 100 million smaller than stated by recent census, with 50% to 75% of the shortfall on the children side. Why does a dumb government make it difficult for citizens to have sex when they are concerned about declining demographics? Beats me. But that is commies for you.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2593679]Other poster wasn't even singling out the USA in his very general post about effects of social media and short attention span.[/QUOTE]A single cell amoeba has a bigger brain than you.

"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - MCA.

But then again, you are the congenital retard who claimed China (and Hitler) did not commit genocide because they both killed more than one race.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593928]My rigid box is quite comfortable, thank you very much; likely far better than whatever you have. And no, I don't lecture anyone on racial shit, that is your specialty, the race warrior turd. Except of course, just a week ago you were venting against Turks and have racially ridiculed Hispanics, Blacks, Indians and other dark skinned folks on this very forum. As for Covid, I am quite safe and unlike you did not infect anyone. You are the homicidal thug sent by CCP here to infect and take out a few Americans, we all know.[/QUOTE]Don't forget about my ching ching comments either. Equal opportunity.

You however repetitively attempt to paint me as someone who is a race warrior. I talk about race comfortably and see people of various ethnicities as individuals and just point out generalities. You are the one who puts them in boxes and classify innocents with the jihadist and classify Asians and CCP sympathizers.

Vented against Turks versus describing the observation that the late night crowd at a club is made up of a particular demographic are very different things. Mentioning race versus being a bigot are two different things, apparently you are incapable of doing that.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2594154]A single cell amoeba has a bigger brain than you.

"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - MCA.

But then again, you are the congenital retard who claimed China (and Hitler) did not commit genocide because they both killed more than one race.[/QUOTE]Okay, I'll admit that your selected line used the US as an example. But for some reason you take that offensively even though the general discussion was regarding the global population. Context matters and you are taking it out of context.

Hitler was proven to be intentionally genocidal. The Chinese, with as many disagreeable characteristics and history, as of now are innocent until proven guilty. That's an American concept, maybe you should get familiar with it.

Anyway man, I suspect that bouts with me are probably the most exciting part of your day. Still painfully obvious that you are someone void of personality and authentic character where words are more important that action. Just another cog in the wheel, living a boring life. Hell do you even have a hobby? Do anything physically active? Let me guess, you never even played a team sport in high school.

Let me also guess your sexual positions with your wife. Favorites are what, missionary and missionary? Let me help. You cheat on your wife because sex with her is boring as shit. It's probably boring because she has no pleasure in it. Solution: have someone who knows how to fuck, fuck her brains out. She's happy and maybe your sex life is saved and you can stop betraying the trust of your life partner. Problem solved. No more being a morally bankrupt scumbag.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2593903]People.

Take your vaccine or don't. Take ivermectin or don't. It time to let it burn through the population and go back to normal life.[/QUOTE]We are in agreement. COVID will fade. Vaccines are a tool, a shortcut, lives can be saved in the process. We can choose to use it, abide by Occam's razor and side with the most likely explanation. Or we can continue to look for zebras.

Either way, COVID will pass and the next pandemic will come at some point. For now, what we learn from this experience is of most importance. For now, I'll side with interpreting hoof-steps as horses, go with the most likely scenario and not look for opportunities to come off as being an insightful seer.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2594197]Don't forget about my ching ching comments either. Equal opportunity.

You however repetitively attempt to paint me as someone who is a race warrior. I talk about race comfortably and see people of various ethnicities as individuals and just point out generalities. You are the one who puts them in boxes and classify innocents with the jihadist and classify Asians and CCP sympathizers.

Vented against Turks versus describing the observation that the late night crowd at a club is made up of a particular demographic are very different things. Mentioning race versus being a bigot are two different things, apparently you are incapable of doing that.[/QUOTE]Whatever. Your first attack against me came in the form of a race warrior diatribe. You have vented extreme prejudice against practically anyone who is not a CCP turd like you. You have a running feud with at least 20 different people here. Speak about hobbies, this squabbling is it for you. OTOH, other than you, I don't have a problem with (m) any others. Yes, I call out McA when he posts obviously America bashing comments (which he does occasionally), but I don't have any problem with him either in general. You are just bitter that you had a tough upbringing and keep flinging that race charge against people here (and probably in your real life) constantly, and most people ignore you as they should but I didn't, and hence you have been at my heels like a blood sucking leech.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2594205]Okay, I'll admit that your selected line used the US as an example. But for some reason you take that offensively even though the general discussion was regarding the global population. Context matters and you are taking it out of context.

Hitler was proven to be intentionally genocidal. The Chinese, with as many disagreeable characteristics and history, as of now are innocent until proven guilty. That's an American concept, maybe you should get familiar with it.

Anyway man, I suspect that bouts with me are probably the most exciting part of your day. Still painfully obvious that you are someone void of personality and authentic character where words are more important that action. Just another cog in the wheel, living a boring life. Hell do you even have a hobby? Do anything physically active? Let me guess, you never even played a team sport in high school.

Let me also guess your sexual positions with your wife. Favorites are what, missionary and missionary? Let me help. You cheat on your wife because sex with her is boring as shit. It's probably boring because she has no pleasure in it. Solution: have someone who knows how to fuck, fuck her brains out. She's happy and maybe your sex life is saved and you can stop betraying the trust of your life partner. Problem solved. No more being a morally bankrupt scumbag.[/QUOTE]It speaks so much about your character that you bring in family members. Unlike your pretended job, my spouse is a real doctor who has helped hundreds of patients immensely in the last year alone. Shame on you. But then again, a CCP turd that got smuggled into this country in a fishing boat is expected to behave like a lowlife plankton.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2594123]I think freedom to eat when you're hungry and to fuck when you're horny are the greatest freedoms.[/QUOTE]I think freedom to think and decide are a bit more important.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2594154]"The general dumbing down of the population and ADHD explains how someone like Trump rose to POTUS. " - MCA.[/QUOTE]The context was that people in general are getting dumber. I then cited the above example. One, I can only cite world leaders that I am actually aware of (less than twenty). Montenegro might also have a reality TV star leading their country but I would not know that. Two, I believe it is better to cite examples that everyone would know, whenever possible. For instance, I once made an argument that not all rich, successful, handsome, alpha men leave their aging, ugly, overweight wives. Yes, I could cite my cousin as an example of a handsome man that chose not to optimize for beauty, but I went with Hugh Jackman and his wife to illustrate my point. Three, the leader of Montenegro's sound bites would likely be in his native tongue, so unless he has complete dementia, none of us would be able to assess his intellect.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593520]I don't know the attention span itself has changed that much over time, but 30 years ago technology had not advanced sufficiently to provide the perfect distraction to the user as efficiently as they can do today.[/QUOTE]Some of those distractions are not intellectually stimulating. Some of those distractions are anti-social. A teenager playing video games 8 hours a day is not going to reach their intellectual potential. And his social intelligence will also be under-developed.

[QUOTE]IQ scores have been steadily falling for decades, but genes are not to blame. Their environment is at fault.

New research published this week in Proceedings of the National Academy of the Sciences of the United States of America examined the IQ scores of men born between 1962 and 1991. Researchers found that scores increased for men born between 1962 and 1975. However, they decreased steadily among men born after 1975.

Ole Rogeberg, co-author of the study and senior research fellow at the Ragnar Frisch Center for Economic Research in Norway said studies conducted in [b]Denmark, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Finland and Estonia have all demonstrated this similar downward trend[/b].

"The causes in IQ increases over time and now the decline is due to environmental factors," Rogeburg told CNN. "It's not that dumb people are having more kids than smart people, to put it crudely. It's something to do with the environment, because we're seeing the same differences within families."

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-06-14/study-people-are-getting-dumber
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2593520]Apps like tik tok know exactly how many times users open their app, how long they stay before moving on, what they are doing when they open the app, are they in the car, in the train, in between classes in school walking to a new classroom, sitting on a toilet, sitting on the couch watching sports on TV but tuning into the app between commercial breaks, WG checking into the social app while taking a break with the John, whatever. They commission studies to study every aspect of these details; the end goal is to bring the user more frequently to the app, keep the user engaged for longer time on the app, and of course show them more targeted ads and making them buy stuff, then and there.[/QUOTE]Based on what you write here, it seems that the social media giants can calibrate the effectiveness of their advertising in away that was not possible even a decade ago. Subliminal messaging repeated over and over again by traditional media and social media may not be able to brainwash us completely, but they have the ability to influence our opinions in ways that we cannot consciously detect.

[QUOTE]Jennifer McKendrick and colleagues at the University of Leicester found that simply playing French or German background music led people to buy wines from those regions. When asked, however, the subjects were completely oblivious to the fact.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150324-the-hidden-tricks-of-persuasion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2594251]It speaks so much about your character that you bring in family members. Unlike your pretended job, my spouse is a real doctor who has helped hundreds of patients immensely in the last year alone. Shame on you. But then again, a CCP turd that got smuggled into this country in a fishing boat is expected to behave like a lowlife plankton.[/QUOTE]Bring up family versus being a racial bigot, blah blah blah. You? A race-insulting, easily-emotionally provoked, adulterer bringing up character? Get the fuck out of here. I bet your kids are giant dorky douchebags too.

Unless in the past year, your wife has managed several hundred patients, intubated more than 100 patients this year, put in several dozen chest tubes, central lines, arterial lines, had the death / withdrawal of care talks, I've probably helped out a ton more people and families than your sexually bored wife. But still, good for your wife, she seems like a nice lady. One deserving of a loyal spouse.

But what the fuck have you done with your own two hands. Not a god damn thing you office working, out of touch with the common man, rigid recipe life living waste of 70-100 odd years of human existence. Just divorce her so she can move on to a better man. Hell, maybe she you'll get some alimony from the woman who wears the pants in the house.

Fun-fact, plankton floats to the top and is the base of marine life. What a poorly thought out metaphor to use as an insult.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2594247]Whatever. Your first attack against me came in the form of a race warrior diatribe. You have vented extreme prejudice against practically anyone who is not a CCP turd like you. You have a running feud with at least 20 different people here. Speak about hobbies, this squabbling is it for you. OTOH, other than you, I don't have a problem with (m) any others. Yes, I call out McA when he posts obviously America bashing comments (which he does occasionally), but I don't have any problem with him either in general. You are just bitter that you had a tough upbringing and keep flinging that race charge against people here (and probably in your real life) constantly, and most people ignore you as they should but I didn't, and hence you have been at my heels like a blood sucking leech.[/QUOTE]What's funny is that some of those other people have obvious clinically defined personality disorders. Others like Shoo is just a pediatric troll, HT and Gino just being overly social-political.

You seem to have some sense of societal awareness, to your wife's credit no doubt. But that's actually an insult as you are given the tools to be aware but are completely unable to transcend to a higher level of thinking beyond the cookie-cutter modus operandi. No mojo whatsoever, no uniquely, insightful thoughts. If you were an NBA basketball player, you would be the nut-hugging shorts wearing Jerry West. Hey, do you own a pair of white New Balance Shoes? The worst thing, when prodded, you easily dive into the worst habits of an average frustrated chump. Fuck, you're a pathetic tool of a human.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2594123]I think freedom to eat when you're hungry and to fuck when you're horny are the greatest freedoms.[/QUOTE]There is generally too many tldr posts here on the forum, so I skip most. But this one has the correct length, and sums up a whole lot. Certain other posters must learn to cut down on their wordcount!

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2594099]By the way, since when is a "think tank" known for objective medical science? Think tanks are hired guns, churning out 'reports' and 'studies' that big corporations, news outlets and corrupt politicians use to advance their agenda.[/QUOTE]Actually, you got it mixed up slightly. Most of that is the work of pr companies. Think tanks strategize more, while the pr companies do the heavy lifting. And politicians just get told about what's going on as a side story. So they can relay the message in order for the commons to believe their votes still count.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2594313]Based on what you write here, it seems that the social media giants can calibrate the effectiveness of their advertising in away that was not possible even a decade ago. Subliminal messaging repeated over and over again by traditional media and social media may not be able to brainwash us completely, but they have the ability to influence our opinions in ways that we cannot consciously detect.[/QUOTE]Fuck that dude. Stop being civil. That fucker sucks donkey balls.

About Pfizer and Moderna efficiency, when AZ was rejected by EU, after Israel and UK, now big number 1 US decide after less than 9 months third dose needed for everybody when now under delta and some vaccinated are badly sick or die. Nobody is able to control anything, medical is really not a exact science, one new dose for each new variant to come? Pfizer and Moderna will become very rich with their low efficiency vaccine. But I never said not to vaccine, and soon we won t have right to have a normal life if not, when real efficiency seem to fail a bit.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2594277]I think freedom to think and decide are a bit more important.[/QUOTE]Its more difficult to think and decide when you're starving.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2594484] ... some vaccinated are badly sick or die... [/QUOTE]Some, but very very few. In Switzerland since 27 January 230.000 covid cases, out of which 782 breakthrough infections.

If by some you mean 0.34 percent, then, yeah.

Oxford University study destroys vaccine "efficacy:

[URL]https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/covid-vaccines-are-less-effective-against-delta-in-u-k-study[/URL]

Keep on getting "jabbed" and "tagged" like a sheep you suckers! Every time you take a gamble with your long-term health and on top of that the shit barely works.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2594626]Oxford University study destroys vaccine "efficacy:

[URL]https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/covid-vaccines-are-less-effective-against-delta-in-u-k-study[/URL]

Keep on getting "jabbed" and "tagged" like a sheep you suckers! Every time you take a gamble with your long-term health and on top of that the shit barely works.[/QUOTE]Third testicle starting to drop. Damn vaccines.

Oh well, more for the hookers in these "closed" clubs to suck on.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2594601]Some, but very very few. In Switzerland since 27 January 230.000 covid cases, out of which 782 breakthrough infections.

If by some you mean 0.34 percent, then, yeah.[/QUOTE]What I say is only 2 doses of ARN or AZ for UK are now known as not enough to be efficient now for delta, how many doses will be? 1 per new mutant? When still 0 dose for me and still kissing, datying, all over FKK land and cleaning my lungs climbing. I will only to buy my freedom with pass to be allowed to breathe, but after my Summer tour and only strict minimum to get free, I don t want 50 doses to make Pfizer business with their water, kind of placebo? Unfortunately, Janssen with only 1 dose seem quite rare.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2594626]Oxford University study destroys vaccine "efficacy:

[URL]https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/covid-vaccines-are-less-effective-against-delta-in-u-k-study[/URL]

Keep on getting "jabbed" and "tagged" like a sheep you suckers! Every time you take a gamble with your long-term health and on top of that the shit barely works.[/QUOTE]Please, somebody explain him what the article says.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2594810]Please, somebody explain him what the article says.[/QUOTE]Well the vaccine is less effective over time. This should be well know by now. If you go out more than six months, it no long effective at preventing infection. I have to add that it does prevent death and hospitalization in people with comorbidity, which is old people.

There is something call evolution. Think of antibiotic select for drug resistant bacteria. Vaccine adaptive immunity will select for vaccine resistant virus. This can result in variant that will kill young, healthy people.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2594209]We are in agreement. COVID will fade. Vaccines are a tool, a shortcut, lives can be saved in the process. We can choose to use it, abide by Occam's razor and side with the most likely explanation. Or we can continue to look for zebras.

Either way, COVID will pass and the next pandemic will come at some point. For now, what we learn from this experience is of most importance. For now, I'll side with interpreting hoof-steps as horses, go with the most likely scenario and not look for opportunities to come off as being an insightful seer.[/QUOTE]We will learn nothing.

COVID come from a lab or is that still a conspiracy. Personally, I think it was an accident. Chinese culture and BSL-3 or 4 is not a good mix. People are under pressure to hide their mistake and not get out of line. Not a good idea if you are messing around with gain of function virus. They need to be westernized if they are going to do that work. BTW, I'm an Asian guy.

When it come to antiviral drug, we still doing clinical trial 10 days after PCR positive test. If there is a lot of noise or if the signal is weak, I wonder why. Can you take a guess. LOL they want these drug to fail. We learn nothing!

[QUOTE=Nordico;2594810]Please, somebody explain him what the article says.[/QUOTE]Why does somebody else have to explain it? Can't you explain it?

Oh, look at all those "cases" in the most vaccinated western countries, Israel, Iceland, UK, and then compare them to Sweden:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_cases_smoothed_per_million&Metric=Confirmed[/URL]+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISL ISR GBR SWE.

And then look at the deaths:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_deaths_per_million&Metric=Confirmed[/URL]+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISR ISL SWE GBR.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2594810]Please, somebody explain him what the article says.[/QUOTE]Impossible he's a cultist. He'll answer 'libtards', 'cccp' and 'gert Vanden wtf' (the guy who wants to cure everything with the killer vaccine boiling in his garage).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2594796]What I say is only 2 doses of ARN or AZ for UK are now known as not enough to be efficient now for delta, how many doses will be? 1 per new mutant? When still 0 dose for me and still kissing, datying, all over FKK land and cleaning my lungs climbing. I will only to buy my freedom with pass to be allowed to breathe, but after my Summer tour and only strict minimum to get free, I don t want 50 doses to make Pfizer business with their water, kind of placebo? Unfortunately, Janssen with only 1 dose seem quite rare.[/QUOTE]Current infections in Switzerland are 99.4 % delta variant. While this was not the case in January, the numbers from my post still stand. Since end of January only 0. 34 % of infections are breakthrough infections. So Pfizer and Moderna work well enough against delta variant too. Currently half of the Swiss population is vaccinated. If the vaccines would not work at all, right now half of infections should be breakthrough infections. We are very very far from that. Efficacy goes down in time, that is nothing new, from last year there were discussions that yearly shots might be required. Currently the pandemic is kept alive by the unvaccinated people.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2595025]Are you the guy with a Tengele tattoo in the arm, I saw in Aftonbladet? I think you are just afraid of needles, but can't admit it to yourself.[/QUOTE]You seem ignorant, and WTF is Tengele? Weirdo.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2594977]Current infections in Switzerland are 99.4 % delta variant. While this was not the case in January, the numbers from my post still stand. Since end of January only 0. 34 % of infections are breakthrough infections. So Pfizer and Moderna work well enough against delta variant too. Currently half of the Swiss population is vaccinated. If the vaccines would not work at all, right now half of infections should be breakthrough infections. We are very very far from that. Efficacy goes down in time, that is nothing new, from last year there were discussions that yearly shots might be required. Currently the pandemic is kept alive by the unvaccinated people.[/QUOTE]Biden from US, Israel and UK don t seem to think like You about efficiency, when third dose is already planned, after 9 months and not only for weak in US. Some vaccinated are also positive, when my many tests, PCR or antigen or fast were all negative, I would say around 15 tests, when I live as usual, even Summer 2021 is more complicated for organization than on 2020.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2594977].Currently the pandemic is kept alive by the unvaccinated people.[/QUOTE]Wrong, wrong, wrong. The pandemic is kept alive because of transition, which the vaccine does not prevent. In addition, there is now none-human host reservoir.

The only way to end the pandemic and get back to normal life is to let it burn. People can take vaccine or ivermectin if they want. But we need to let it burn. And try to kill of any population of animal that serve as host reservoir.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2594796]What I say is only 2 doses of ARN or AZ for UK are now known as not enough to be efficient now for delta, how many doses will be?[/QUOTE]Polio took 4 doses.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2594816]There is something call evolution. Think of antibiotic select for drug resistant bacteria. Vaccine adaptive immunity will select for vaccine resistant virus. This can result in variant that will kill young, healthy people.[/QUOTE]How is the selective pressure put on these viruses by Ivermectin different than selective pressure by vaccines?

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2594879]Why does somebody else have to explain it? Can't you explain it?

Oh, look at all those "cases" in the most vaccinated western countries, Israel, Iceland, UK, and then compare them to Sweden:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_cases_smoothed_per_million&Metric=Confirmed[/URL]+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISL ISR GBR SWE.

And then look at the deaths:

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_deaths_per_million&Metric=Confirmed[/URL]+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=ISR ISL SWE GBR.[/QUOTE]Sweden death rate against US, UK, Israel, Iceland: middle of the pack, 3rd of 5. 18 x higher than Iceland and 2 x higher than Israel.

[URL] https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-02-09..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~GBR~ISR~SWE~ISL[/URL]

Sweden vaccination rate against same countries: Also middle of the pack, 4th of 5.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-02-09..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=People+vaccinated&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=USA~GBR~ISR~SWE~ISL[/URL]

Comparable vaccination rate and comparable death rates although lags behind Iceland and Israel significantly.

What's the point. Only conclusion I can draw is that the more social-cultural diversity and thus behaviors and attitude toward covid mitigation, the worse the outcome.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595074]Biden from US, Israel and UK don t seem to think like You about efficiency, when third dose is already planned, after 9 months and not only for weak in US. Some vaccinated are also positive, when my many tests, PCR or antigen or fast were all negative, I would say around 15 tests, when I live as usual, even Summer 2021 is more complicated for organization than on 2020.[/QUOTE]You seem to be capable to distinguish between different letters, but you don't understand the meaning of words.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595084]For me, second choice when I find more fresh natural beauties with more elegance in Germany for less expensive. I was happy to read one of my good girls is still at Sharks, even I m on my sporty holidays, but I would be happy to taste her for seventh time when only discovered her on 9 July.[/QUOTE]You keep saying how in every club you were how you find fresh natural beauties. Yet you then move to the next club.

With regards sporty holidays, what a sad joke. You yourself wrote a few days ago you have cycled less than 100 km since October. I was right when I said my grandmother cycles more than you.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595146]You seem to be capable to distinguish between different letters, but you don't understand the meaning of words.[/QUOTE]But just facts: third dose in big number 1 in the world and high vaccination rate UK and Israel, versus so small with less than 5 millions in Switzerland. And I m pretty sure not last dose. Always negative weekly tests for me, so I can't spread, when delta is spreading everywhere and some vaccinated do spread. I will vaccinate only to buy my freedom, not because I want, when my many weekly tests talk. No control in Switzerland, but I was never refused to enter in Germany nor Austria. For me, vaccination is only useful for weak who need to be protected, when facts show vaccination high rate don't stop spreading and when poor countries have low rate for vaccination. Vaccines also don't seem so efficient versus new mutants. Never ending good business story for Pfizer which will become very rich. Lack of efficiency seem to give good business.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2595112]Wrong, wrong, wrong. The pandemic is kept alive because of transition, which the vaccine does not prevent. In addition, there is now none-human host reservoir.

The only way to end the pandemic and get back to normal life is to let it burn. People can take vaccine or ivermectin if they want. But we need to let it burn. And try to kill of any population of animal that serve as host reservoir.[/QUOTE]Numbers from Switzerland in the last two weeks.

50.6 % of population fully vaccinated, 99.4% of new cases are delta variant.

New cases total in the last two weeks: 28371.

Breakthrough infections in the last two weeks: 247.

Why are breakthrough infections only 0.87 % out of total infections?

Agree that it's the time to let it burn, people had a chance to be vaccinated so who didn't do it by now made their own choice.

Numbers in Germany are similar to Switzerland. Since 1 February there are 10827 breakthrough infections out of 1584659 infections, so 0.68 %. I wonder why.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595148]You keep saying how in every club you were how you find fresh natural beauties. Yet you then move to the next club.

With regards sporty holidays, what a sad joke. You yourself wrote a few days ago you have cycled less than 100 km since October. I was right when I said my grandmother cycles more than you.[/QUOTE]Found 3 fresh natural beauties and good at Sharks on July versus only new fresh Swiss at Globe, but unfortunately Darmstadt is too far from Frioul when Wellcum and Andiamo are closer and also saw fresh natural beauties there, but except Bella, mostly low level Italian rabbits. So obvious, Globe is not anymore able to attract real beauties when most new girls come from Germany, some putting silicon between like Sofia, and were not even superstars in Germany. Unfortunately, after many problems, could only start real sport on Sunday 9 August, very late when I planned to start on end of June, but already 3 times in Iseran 2770, Gran San Bernardino 2400 from Aosta seeing Scott skis factory, telegraphe Galibier 2642, beautiful Izoard 2400, I was not ready yet after only 6 days climbing for Zoncolan, but I organized to change my schedule to return to perform better when I could already climb straight in steep faster than most Italians making curves, but when I started from down under, I'm so happy my belly now works fine, so I can work hard to improve and I will be ready for 2 October, will climb Gran San Bernardino Swiss side and will return to Zoncolan before.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2595029]You seem ignorant, and WTF is Tengele? Weirdo.[/QUOTE]Still full of hate? It is so easy to get under the skin of insecure people like you.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2595112]Wrong, wrong, wrong. The pandemic is kept alive because of transition, which the vaccine does not prevent. In addition, there is now none-human host reservoir.

The only way to end the pandemic and get back to normal life is to let it burn. People can take vaccine or ivermectin if they want. But we need to let it burn. And try to kill of any population of animal that serve as host reservoir.[/QUOTE]Actually cats and dogs and other pets such as pigs (which are forbidden in Israel) can get covid. Dogs and cats and pigs and birds in the USA need a vaccine ASAP.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2594810]Please, somebody explain him what the article says.[/QUOTE]It is funny how everything these days needs an extra spin and description in order to be understood in the context wanted by the Powers that planned the plandemic.

Kinda reminds me of NewSpeak.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2594816]Well the vaccine is less effective over time. This should be well know by now. If you go out more than six months, it no long effective at preventing infection. I have to add that it does prevent death and hospitalization in people with comorbidity, which is old people.

There is something call evolution. Think of antibiotic select for drug resistant bacteria. Vaccine adaptive immunity will select for vaccine resistant virus. This can result in variant that will kill young, healthy people.[/QUOTE]One person has died from covid in my county this month. A fully vaccinated guy age of 70 or so.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2594820]We will learn nothing.

COVID come from a lab or is that still a conspiracy. Personally, I think it was an accident. Chinese culture and BSL-3 or 4 is not a good mix. People are under pressure to hide their mistake and not get out of line. Not a good idea if you are messing around with gain of function virus. They need to be westernized if they are going to do that work. [/QUOTE]Just send over some hot Asian girls. I'll help westernizing them!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2594977]. Since end of January only 0. 34 % of infections are breakthrough infections. So Pfizer and Moderna work well enough against delta variant too. [/QUOTE]Ok, riiiiight. From now on I will call you Comical Ali.

[URL]https://youtu.be/vC5UTUAxgpE[/URL]

Or maybe I should rather call you Saddam Hussain considering his 99.99% of the votes during that election?

It is really weird that in my county of 650 k people, 100% of the dead from covid in August died from a so called breakthrough delta variant. While in Switzerland, only 0. 34% are infected by a breakthrough variant now. About as weird as the election in Zimbabwe ten years ago.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2595112]The only way to end the pandemic and get back to normal life is to let it burn. People can take vaccine or ivermectin if they want. But we need to let it burn. And try to kill of any population of animal that serve as host reservoir.[/QUOTE]Not sure I entirely agree nor disagree, but it might not be a smart thing to put into the world wide web big data algorithms used in the future in order to train Tesla's Optimist Prime drone army. LOL.

Some human being are not far from animals, and the low IQ shown here on ISG by some people are clear evidence of that.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2595129]Polio took 4 doses.[/QUOTE]You should take one extra. Just to be safe!

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2594311]Some of those distractions are not intellectually stimulating. Some of those distractions are anti-social. A teenager playing video games 8 hours a day is not going to reach their intellectual potential. And his social intelligence will also be under-developed.[/QUOTE]The rate of ADHD corresponds to the rate of vaccinations.

Also parents are too careful about their children nowadays, and that can have an adverse effect on adhd levels also. Rough and tumbled play is very important in order to construct the best brain pathways growing up. Not just in terms of movements, but also psychologically. In essence, we need to be tossed around like apes a bit, since that is what we are. Great apes.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595219]But just facts: third dose in big number 1 in the world and high vaccination rate UK and Israel, versus so small with less than 5 millions in Switzerland. And I m pretty sure not last dose. Always negative weekly tests for me, so I can't spread, when delta is spreading everywhere and some vaccinated do spread. I will vaccinate only to buy my freedom, not because I want, when my many weekly tests talk. No control in Switzerland, but I was never refused to enter in Germany nor Austria. For me, vaccination is only useful for weak who need to be protected, when facts show vaccination high rate don't stop spreading and when poor countries have low rate for vaccination. Vaccines also don't seem so efficient versus new mutants. Never ending good business story for Pfizer which will become very rich. Lack of efficiency seem to give good business.[/QUOTE]You are really really thick. Nobody said vaccine protection lasts for ever. So far it is proven that they give good to decent protection for at least 9 months. Even against delta variant they are good enough. That you tested negative so far means exactly nothing in the context of the pandemic. You are a case study of 1 in the world population of 7. 9 billion. Do you understand numbers?

Since you like facts, I have shown the numbers from Switzerland and Germany, Switzerland from Bundesamt füare Gesundheit and Germany from the Robert Koch Institute. Is Germany a big enough country? Do you have sources for breakthrough infections (at least 14 days after the second dose) for other countries? Or you just read a headline somewhere, maybe on facebook?

If you like facts, check again the population size of Switzerland and write back that you were wrong.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595400]One person has died from covid in my county this month. A fully vaccinated guy age of 70 or so.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2595409]It is really weird that in my county of 650 k people, 100% of the dead from covid in August died from a so called breakthrough delta variant. [/QUOTE]Is this really your argument? That 1 out of 1 is 100% ?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595409] While in Switzerland, only 0. 34% are infected by a breakthrough variant now. About as weird as the election in Zimbabwe ten years ago.[/QUOTE]I give numbers from Bundesamt füare Gesundheit (Switzerland) and from Robert Koch Institute (Germany). You quote self employed dog portrait painters.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595413]Not sure I entirely agree nor disagree, but it might not be a smart thing to put into the world wide web big data algorithms used in the future in order to train Tesla's Optimist Prime drone army. [/QUOTE]That's Optimus Prime. You really have a problem with letters don't you? Dyslexia or something like that?

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595461]You are really really thick. Nobody said vaccine protection lasts for ever. So far it is proven that they give good to decent protection for at least 9 months. Even against delta variant they are good enough. That you tested negative so far means exactly nothing in the context of the pandemic. You are a case study of 1 in the world population of 7. 9 billion. Do you understand numbers?

Since you like facts, I have shown the numbers from Switzerland and Germany, Switzerland from Bundesamt fare Gesundheit and Germany from the Robert Koch Institute. Is Germany a big enough country? Do you have sources for breakthrough infections (at least 14 days after the second dose) for other countries? Or you just read a headline somewhere, maybe on facebook?

If you like facts, check again the population size of Switzerland and write back that you were wrong.[/QUOTE]My apologizes for Swiss when not far from 9 millions now. Increased a lot. I wonder how many doses will be needed when already third after only 9 months and in Summer, really high efficiency. I will have, to get my pass but as soon, no other dose for me, I just want my pass to buy my freedom in this new world, when I manage since March 2020 and I was never sick like lately for more than 1 month, but PCR tests told nothing about covid and doctors were not able to find nor to cure me. I had to recover by myself and I m really happy because my belly is now fine when I move my meat on my climbing.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2595129]Polio took 4 doses.[/QUOTE]How many doses to get vaccine efficiency lasting in time, not only for tomorrow and not about new mutant. I m afraid nobody know anything. But at least good business for US Pfizer and a bit less for Moderna.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2595478]That's Optimus Prime. You really have a problem with letters don't you? Dyslexia or something like that?[/QUOTE]Yeah. I'm sure I made this one accidentally. LOL.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595474]I give numbers from Bundesamt fare Gesundheit (Switzerland) and from Robert Koch Institute (Germany). You quote self employed dog portrait painters.[/QUOTE]You are as brainwashed as a dead goat.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595465]Is this really your argument? That 1 out of 1 is 100% ?[/QUOTE]At least it is more accurate than blatant lies about 1 put of 300 like the bogus fake claims you copy paste. [URL]Mr.Com[/URL]ical Saddam Hussain Ali!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2595478]That's Optimus Prime. You really have a problem with letters don't you? Dyslexia or something like that?[/QUOTE]I am always right, while you and the sheeps are always wrong!

All you betas manage are copy pasting fake news.

Watch from 2:18:22 here:

[URL]https://youtu.be/j0z4FweCy4M[/URL]

Optimist is our codename for the Teslabot. Then he goes not to joke while saying Optimist SubPrime.

But I am aware the pun went straight past the sheeples in most media channel, and amateurs like you never check facts!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595415]You should take one extra. Just to be safe![/QUOTE]A speech by an anti vaxer:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX01nsB3mUI&t=20210s[/URL]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595461]You are really really thick. Nobody said vaccine protection lasts for ever. So far it is proven that they give good to decent protection for at least 9 months. Even against delta variant they are good enough. That you tested negative so far means exactly nothing in the context of the pandemic. You are a case study of 1 in the world population of 7. 9 billion. Do you understand numbers?

Since you like facts, I have shown the numbers from Switzerland and Germany, Switzerland from Bundesamt fare Gesundheit and Germany from the Robert Koch Institute. Is Germany a big enough country? Do you have sources for breakthrough infections (at least 14 days after the second dose) for other countries? Or you just read a headline somewhere, maybe on facebook?

If you like facts, check again the population size of Switzerland and write back that you were wrong.[/QUOTE]Except in Switzerland where no control on entrance about covid: nothing asked, but in Germany and Austria, WGs who have at risk job make fast test daily and except few positive at Sharks, but most are at work daily when they make even more tests than me. Most WGs are not vaccinated and also many clients. Maybe delta don t like to pay for sex? Like I never advised anybody to go, so I won t advice it to go. Some girls would lose big geriatric business if delta find some pappy.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595660]Except in Switzerland where no control on entrance about covid: nothing asked, but in Germany and Austria, WGs who have at risk job make fast test daily and except few positive at Sharks, but most are at work daily when they make even more tests than me. Most WGs are not vaccinated and also many clients. Maybe delta don t like to pay for sex? Like I never advised anybody to go, so I won t advice it to go. Some girls would lose big geriatric business if delta find some pappy.[/QUOTE]So I checked the stats in India and 45% or more of the Indian population smokes so that is likely the reason why so many deaths in India. If people don't smoke they should be ok and their lungs will be strong.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595660]... but in Germany and Austria, WGs who have at risk job make fast test daily and except few positive at Sharks, but most are at work daily..[/QUOTE]Clubs Cleo and Zeus claim on their website that all girls get regularly tested for Covid by a doctor. I can't say if they are lying or not.

I was told by a girl in Globe that they will be required soon to be vaccinated, but I don't really believe that. The Swiss admin forum (controlled by Ingo) is rabid antivaxxer, so my current guess is that Ingo is an antivaxxer too.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595550]At least it is more accurate than blatant lies about 1 put of 300 like the bogus fake claims you copy paste.[/QUOTE]One case out of one, what a strong argument you make. Never mind that you don't provide any link to check it. Because whenever you provide a link it either says the opposite than what you claim or it is from self employed dog portrait painters.

Come on, you must have some exclusive information from a hamster portrait painter, or at least from one of the other voices in your head.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595504]How many doses to get vaccine efficiency lasting in time, not only for tomorrow and not about new mutant. I m afraid nobody know anything. But at least good business for US Pfizer and a bit less for Moderna.[/QUOTE]Like I said, 4 for polio. Science is not magic.

Well, seems that getting through a covid infection does not guarantee you won't get it again.

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8040523/[/URL]

"A previous history of SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with an 84% lower risk of infection, with median protective effect observed 7 months following primary infection."

This study was done before delta.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595719]Clubs Cleo and Zeus claim on their website that all girls get regularly tested for Covid by a doctor. I can't say if they are lying or not.

I was told by a girl in Globe that they will be required soon to be vaccinated, but I don't really believe that. The Swiss admin forum (controlled by Ingo) is rabid antivaxxer, so my current guess is that Ingo is an antivaxxer too.[/QUOTE]I never ask girls, not selection criteria for me when difficult enough to find attractive. When I m pretty sure most of Globe girls are not vaccinated, like in other clubs, and when Globe is not anymore able to attract beauties, but mostly now girls who worked in Germany, then they will have 10 girls when they don't even tell they test their girls, when yes, BITICI do. I m happy Hessen still work with fast tests, not to make few interesting beauties leaving.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2595731]Like I said, 4 for polio. Science is not magic.[/QUOTE]Mathematics or physics are scientific for me, but not medical. Better to be able to recover on one s own.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595733]Well, seems that getting through a covid infection does not guarantee you won't get it again.

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8040523/[/URL]

"A previous history of SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with an 84% lower risk of infection, with median protective effect observed 7 months following primary infection."

This study was done before delta.[/QUOTE]You are as brainwashed as it gets. Trying to make it into news that you can get it twice. While you keep posting propaganda figures like the little weeny facist Saddam Hussain wannabe that you are.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595898]Mathematics or physics are scientific for me, but not medical. Better to be able to recover on one s own.[/QUOTE]Silly.

Medicine, in its best form, is math, the sciences of physics, biology, and chemistry combined with the art of being a human and all of its intricacies.

To abstract for you to understand.

[QUOTE=Samcik;2595552]I am in Oase now and I can't believe how it became so awful. Only around 10 girls at afternoon, max 30 evening time. Food so awful, no more pizza. Only few beautiful girls. Everyone is asking ridiculous prices, got terrible service from girl named Mickey. Worst case is that I need to come back here tomorrow again since I booked 2 nights stay in Friedrichsdorf. I will post more details when I will return to US.[/QUOTE]But this can't be a surprise for you, even before the pandemic the LU were getting worst and worst, the forums are full of reports explaining the price increase, it is the eternal balance between offer and demand like in every business. On top of that, flying from the US knowing that the covid is around and that the FKK are probably one of the most risky place to get sick looks just denying the reality. But fucking seems for you to be the most important thing in life despite so many warnings.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595937] ... facist ...[/QUOTE]You forgot again how to spell fascist. No surprise though, you are incapable of learning.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2595731]Like I said, 4 for polio. Science is not magic.[/QUOTE]Dude stop manipulating. Polio RRR is something like 99% after 3 shot. In some area, they recommend the 4th. The different is it last. A real vaccine that can bring the R0 below one.

Where as, the fail gene therapy vaccine RRR is 90 to 94% after 2 shots. It does not last. After 7+ month RRR is basically zero. Allowing the vaccine to select for resistant.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2595874]...not selection criteria for me when difficult enough to find attractive..[/QUOTE]Nobody said it's a selection criteria.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2595134]How is the selective pressure put on these viruses by Ivermectin different than selective pressure by vaccines?[/QUOTE]When used as a treatment. No different. I rather the virus resistant against IVM than, resistant against unknown part of my immune system. That way, I can save my immune system for real vaccine that prevent transmittion. However, we have very few people using IVM compare to vaccine, so it is less likely to become resistant.

When used as a prevent, the probability of drug resistant is low.

Eventually, it will be resistant to everything since we can't get our head out of our azz. So the best way forward is to let it burn. Without any drug or vaccine, it will do what virus do, become less pathogenic, like a common cold, even for old people with co-morbidity.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595937]...Trying to make it into news that you can get it twice....[/QUOTE]I was bringing perspective to the fact that breakthrough infections exist. How much you want to bet that people with weakened immune system are susceptible to second infections and breakthrough infections.

It was not for you, if I would try to convince you of something I would first paint a dog or a hamster and upload that here.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2595937]You are as brainwashed as it gets. Trying to make it into news that you can get it twice. While you keep posting propaganda figures like the little weeny facist Saddam Hussain wannabe that you are.[/QUOTE]That's 'hussein'.

Google check before you post my boy, it's getting really embarrassing.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2595985]Silly.

Medicine, in its best form, is math, the sciences of physics, biology, and chemistry combined with the art of being a human and all of its intricacies.

To abstract for you to understand.[/QUOTE]Real science think that evolution is a thing. Our scientist at the WHO, FDA, CDC don't believe in such silly thing as evolution.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2595985]Silly.

Medicine, in its best form, is math, the sciences of physics, biology, and chemistry combined with the art of being a human and all of its intricacies.

To abstract for you to understand.[/QUOTE]I agree that medicine is very little science. Take a Ph. D. In math or an engineer and let him learn to solve a medical problem. He could surely do it with more efficiency and efficacy than medical doctors can. However, try to get a medical doctor to solve a multivariable differential equation or to derive a physics formula and he would just basically be retarded. Medical doctors in comparison to engineers. They are no match in intelligence and logical problem solving, and of course engineers are the smartest and most practical in solving problems including medical problems if they have basic information such as anatomy and physiology which can be learned in a few months.

Even lawyers have more logic than most medical doctors and could probable heal people with more efficiency had they had a few months of basic medical training.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2595733]Well, seems that getting through a covid infection does not guarantee you won't get it again.

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8040523/[/URL]

"A previous history of SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with an 84% lower risk of infection, with median protective effect observed 7 months following primary infection."

This study was done before delta.[/QUOTE]Yes, some got positive to covid several times and even athletes.

Is there disposable glasses for the drinks in the bars att FKK's now considering covid? Otherwise they might be quite a super spreader!

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596013]1. When used as a treatment. No different. I rather the virus resistant against IVM than, resistant against unknown part of my immune system. That way, I can save my immune system for real vaccine that prevent transmittion.

2. However, we have very few people using IVM compare to vaccine, so it is less likely to become resistant.

3. When used as a prevent, the probability of drug resistant is low.

4. So the best way forward is to let it burn. Without any drug or vaccine, it will do what virus do, become less pathogenic, like a common cold, even for old people with co-morbidity.[/QUOTE]1. Resistant against one subset of antibody lineages of literally billions and billions of different antibodies your body can make. But technically a fair point, as in 0.0000001 is indeed greater than 0.

2. Then promoting IVM use is counteractive to this point.

3. Baseless.

4. In the real world, decent people factor in human cost.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596039]Real science think that evolution is a thing. Our scientist at the WHO, FDA, CDC don't believe in such silly thing as evolution.[/QUOTE]Hence why I said medicine in its best form, pure practice of medicine. Scientific / research world is also not immune to bastardization by corruption and ineptidude.

There is a reason why science courses are taught in high school and the first years of university but medicine is taught in later years or graduate level programs. They are called Basic Sciences for a reason. Mere foundations to build on.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596006]Dude stop manipulating. Polio RRR is something like 99% after 3 shot. In some area, they recommend the 4th. The different is it last. A real vaccine that can bring the R0 below one.

Where as, the fail gene therapy vaccine RRR is 90 to 94% after 2 shots. It does not last. After 7+ month RRR is basically zero. Allowing the vaccine to select for resistant.[/QUOTE]Don't agree that I'm manipulating, but you ignoring details and attaching pejoratives to something you don't like is definitely manipulation.

If anything, I'm being more critical of covid vaccines to compare them to polio. One is a fecal-oral transmission and another is respiratory droplet. Advantage already for polio vaccine by nature of transmissibility.

Despite this, 1950's Polio vaccine was also just 90% effective after 2 doses and also with waning immunity. Thus 3 and 4 shots were later recommended in addition to optimization of original vaccines and eventual switch over to newer tech vaccines in the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

No data for efficacy after 3 shots for covid so comparison is premature and not based on data. You can revisit your point in a year once nations like Israel will have reached similar 3 shot vaccination rates.

Point is, easy to criticize and make uncertain claims about something that is happening live where the medical and science communities are all still learning.

It's similar to the nutjobs who cited 5% mortality for covid in March 2020. Making strong / definite claims about a process that is still in motion is bad science.

I'll just compile some direct hospital data here. People can reason all they want about vaccines, covid is a cold, death from covid versus with covid, natural immunity is better, blah blah blah. But fact of the matter, and for whatever reason, hospitals are currently atypically filled with patients suffering from covid pathologies and especially in my lower vax rate region of the United States. Data covers 5 hospital systems spanning about 40 hospitals in the American Southeast. Just pure facts and numbers.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2596063]I agree that medicine is very little science. Take a Ph. D. In math or an engineer and let him learn to solve a medical problem. He could surely do it with more efficiency and efficacy than medical doctors can. However, try to get a medical doctor to solve a multivariable differential equation or to derive a physics formula and he would just basically be retarded. Medical doctors in comparison to engineers. They are no match in intelligence and logical problem solving, and of course engineers are the smartest and most practical in solving problems including medical problems if they have basic information such as anatomy and physiology which can be learned in a few months.

Even lawyers have more logic than most medical doctors and could probable heal people with more efficiency had they had a few months of basic medical training.[/QUOTE]Agree that I actually think that my average research and engineering (real engineers, not the ones who work as optimizers and quality assurance engineers) peers are actually smarter [B]on paper[/B] than my average medical friends.

Disagree about their ability to practice medicine, but the degree depends on the field of medicine.

I started my undergrad at Georgia Tech, a top engineering institution in the world. Some peers have garnered positions as far as leading the development of Solar sails and various other components involved in the recent NASA / JPL Mars mission. Would I trust many of them to be optimal in the clinical environment when they have to manage real human patients, other specialties, and clinical staff while integrating biological disease processes and interventions? Hell no.

Similarly, some of my most "intelligent" medical colleagues are the worst critical care physicians because they operate from a pure ideal practice perspective but are not capable of factoring logistics and human factors. For instance, there is a measurable higher rate of autism spectrum disorder prevalence in surgeons. They are often the most socially inept and unable to be effective in the practice of medicine outside of the operation room. How often non-surgical clinicians have to save their ass in obscene.

If I stayed the course in Biomedical engineering and pursued a career in research and development, would have it been intellectually streamlined, predictable, and comfortable? I have no doubt. Intelligence is measured in many ways, but logical intelligence is easy to train via a repeated, disciplined, algorithmic process. Social intelligence and human navigation is much more difficult for many of the world's best thinkers. Take it from a clinician who was first indoctrinated in the engineering world.

But I can only speak for the American system where the medical education requires a 4 year undergraduate degree in which the overwhelming majority choose a hard science to be followed by 4 more years of formal medical education and another 3-7 years of clinical practice. I understand that in UK Commonwealth, Germany, and the Middle East, medical doctors are only required to complete 5-6 years of formal education to be followed with the American equivalent of a residency program.

I don't think the US's superfluous education requirements is necessary to practice medicine at a basic level. Many Nurse practitioners and Physicians assistants with Masters level education are proving that point. But the bigger point is, in the US, you are selecting from a higher pool of talent but because the quantity medical practitioners required versus research / high end engineering positions available, you will run across many "less intellectually impressive" medical doctors, especially in certain fields of medicine. But at the high end, you will also see some of the most impressive people who can excel across all disciplines.

Your assessment even discounts the value of intelligence held by Doctorates in creative and social science fields.

Basically, I agree but also disagree because I choose to integrate hard science with human skill in my definition of intelligent. And lawyers, pfft. Double pfft.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2595993]But this can't be a surprise for you, even before the pandemic the LU were getting worst and worst, the forums are full of reports explaining the price increase, it is the eternal balance between offer and demand like in every business. On top of that, flying from the US knowing that the covid is around and that the FKK are probably one of the most risky place to get sick looks just denying the reality. But fucking seems for you to be the most important thing in life despite so many warnings.[/QUOTE]Ok Mr Fauci, you can mask and stay at home as much as you want and keep your snowflake warnings to yourself!

At Murse.

Ignoring evolution is so shortsightedness. Focusing on just adaptive antibody is shortsightedness.

In my world evolution is fundamental. Humanity think they are smarter than nature, we are not. Vaccine are selecting for resistant variants. The only way to stop evolution is to stop transmittion. When we have a real vaccine (like polio) that stop transmittion, then I will support it and take it myself. Don't try to compare polio with this vax. Just stop it. You are making polio vax look bad. It is not. The only thing I see that stop transmittion right now is IVM.

The more they move the goal post, the more people will loose trust. Oh, it not about preventing infection. It about preventing severity of the disease, BS. They change definition of herd immunity. BS and more BS.

Until then we are making a mistake and are irresponsible. This pandemic will last forever. A forever pandemic have much higher human cost. Vaccine resistant virus cost the live of younger people.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596403]At Murse.

Ignoring evolution is so shortsightedness. Focusing on just adaptive antibody is shortsightedness.

In my world evolution is fundamental. Humanity think they are smarter than nature, we are not. Vaccine are selecting for resistant variants. The only way to stop evolution is to stop transmittion. When we have a real vaccine (like polio) that stop transmittion, then I will support it and take it myself. Don't try to compare polio with this vax. Just stop it. You are making polio vax look bad. It is not. The only thing I see that stop transmittion right now is IVM.

The more they move the goal post, the more people will loose trust. Oh, it not about preventing infection. It about preventing severity of the disease, BS. They change definition of herd immunity. BS and more BS.

Until then we are making a mistake and are irresponsible. This pandemic will last forever. A forever pandemic have much higher human cost. Vaccine resistant virus cost the live of younger people.[/QUOTE]You are using the term evolution to justify a scientific background but it is an complete consideration of actual realities. The world is not perfect and realities justify a risk calculation evaluation and your stance is detrimental to the most likely outcome. At the same time, your statements of "let it burn" is incongruent with your inconsistent scientific position, especially in this instance of "cost the li (ves) of younger people" statement.

Phoney baloney, scientific justification which is out of touch with the realities of the actual public health crisis. Using half truths to justify a greater reality is more devious and detrimental than the even absurd conspiracy lottery theories and politically-based positions repeated ad nauseam on this thread.

In my opinion, the most disgraceful position expressed here would be yours first, Pistons second, and HT third. Others are woefully ill-informed but the upper tiers of misinformation are people I suspect to be able to discern better but willingly choose a detrimental path.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596403]The only thing I see that stop transmittion right now is IVM..[/QUOTE]Complete utter scientific nonsense. There is nothing that this anti-parasitic drug with some anti-viral properties can do that would [B]reduce[/B] transmission more than an already primed, yet not 100% "leak proof" immune system. Complete nonsense sputtered from a position of either ignorance or intentional misinformation.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2596445]You are using the term evolution to justify a scientific background but it is an complete consideration of actual realities. The world is not perfect and realities justify a risk calculation evaluation and your stance is detrimental to the most likely outcome. At the same time, your statements of "let it burn" is incongruent with your inconsistent scientific position, especially in this instance of "cost the li (ves) of younger people" statement.

Phoney baloney, scientific justification which is out of touch with the realities of the actual public health crisis. Using half truths to justify a greater reality is more devious and detrimental than the even absurd conspiracy lottery theories and politically-based positions repeated ad nauseam on this thread.

In my opinion, the most disgraceful position expressed here would be yours first, Pistons second, and HT third. Others are woefully ill-informed but the upper tiers of misinformation are people I suspect to be able to discern better but willingly choose a detrimental path.[/QUOTE]TLDR. But you have been agreeing with "let it burn". What changes? Oh I pointed out how you try to manipulate people.

I see no way out of this forever pandemic. People are free to do what they want to do. If you are in the high risk group, there are vaccine and IVM. It is a common cold for young people without co-morbidity. The vaccine will select for variant that will kill young people. That why I think it is better to "let it burn. " We simply can't get our head out of out azz.

But I have no political power and no influence. With what our scientific bureaucrat are doing, we will be in lock down, mask, vaccine forever with a high risk of a variant that kill young people.

What is your reason for wanting to "let it burn?"

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2596251]Is there disposable glasses for the drinks in the bars att FKK's now considering covid? Otherwise they might be quite a super spreader![/QUOTE]Straws are important also because with a straw your mouth never touches the cup, which ideally should be plastic and disposable.

It's like Ted Nugent and Didier Raoult are writing in this thread.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596403]The only thing I see that stop transmittion right now is IVM.[/QUOTE]1. We can create a simulation, and everyone moves into the simulation for lets say 6 months or a year. Scaling this up is probably 2 decades away aven if we can get full immersion within 10 years if everything as fast as it can.

2. Nanorobots can kill off the virus. But we might need nano factories in order to do this well enough. So it might be maybe 2 decades away.

Right now there is no good solution. Only people arguing between the lesser bad solution. Maybe we can give people UBI for 2 or 3 years, even in poor countries, and then have people locked inside for a few months while drones deliver food from warehouses. But we are probably not there yet either.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2596014]How much you want to bet that people with weakened immune system are susceptible to second infections and breakthrough infections.[/QUOTE]I already knew that early last year. Why are you trying to make this into your argument? [URL]mr.Com[/URL]ical Saddam Ali.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596464]TLDR. But you have been agreeing with "let it burn". What changes? Oh I pointed out how you try to manipulate people.

I see no way out of this forever pandemic. People are free to do what they want to do. If you are in the high risk group, there are vaccine and IVM. It is a common cold for young people without co-morbidity. The vaccine will select for variant that will kill young people. That why I think it is better to "let it burn. " We simply can't get our head out of out azz.

But I have no political power and no influence. With what our scientific bureaucrat are doing, we will be in lock down, mask, vaccine forever with a high risk of a variant that kill young people.

What is your reason for wanting to "let it burn?"[/QUOTE]Funny, my post was just as long as yours so your TLDR is utter trolling behavior.

Nothing has changed. People have been given provided the opportunity to protect themselves. Human cost have been reasonably considered. Cannot live with pandemic restrictions forever. Let it rip.

I might be heading for the fuck factories in Frankfurt in the weekend and I am trying to judge if I, being fully vaccinated, should be worried about the CCP virus. It seems very hard to get a definite answer to the question of how dangerous the delta variant really is. In Israel it is like the vaccine has no effect at all on transmission, but I also looked at the weekly report from the Robert-Koch institute (Wöchentlicher COVID-19-Lagebericht vom 19.08. 2021, page 19). Assuming the numbers are correct, it is interesting to note that the vaccine seems to have been quite effective for the age group 18-59 during the last month:

Sympthomatic covid cases, age 18-59, week 29-32:38. 829.

Probable vaccine breakthrough cases: 5. 736.

Expected number of sympthomatic cases if vaccine had no effect, and 60% fully vaccinated: 23.297.

About 75% reduction compared to expectation.

Hospitalized covid cases, age 18-59, week 29-32:2. 055.

Probable vaccine breakthrough cases: 97.

Expected number of vaccinated hospitalized cases if vaccine had no effect, and 60% fully vaccinated: 1. 233.

About 92% reduction compared to expectation.

Intensive care covid cases, age 18-59, week 29-32:165.

Probable vaccine breakthrough cases: 4.

Expected number of vaccinated cases if vaccine had no effect, and 60% fully vaccinated: 99.

About 96% reduction compared to expectation.

Covid deaths, age 18-59, week 29-32:16.

Probable vaccine breakthrough cases: 0.

Even if we would account for the lag effect properly (usually takes a few weeks from case to hospital to ICU to death), the vaccine still looks pretty good. In Germany at least.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2596720]Funny, my post was just as long as yours so your TLDR is utter trolling behavior.

Nothing has changed. People have been given provided the opportunity to protect themselves. Human cost have been reasonably considered. Cannot live with pandemic restrictions forever. Let it rip.[/QUOTE]Let it rip, let it burn. And get back to normal life. But we are not doing that now, are we. Our head is in our ass.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2596605]1. We can create a simulation, and everyone moves into the simulation for lets say 6 months or a year. Scaling this up is probably 2 decades away aven if we can get full immersion within 10 years if everything as fast as it can.

2. Nanorobots can kill off the virus. But we might need nano factories in order to do this well enough. So it might be maybe 2 decades away.

Right now there is no good solution. Only people arguing between the lesser bad solution. Maybe we can give people UBI for 2 or 3 years, even in poor countries, and then have people locked inside for a few months while drones deliver food from warehouses. But we are probably not there yet either.[/QUOTE]Let it burn,. That is the only way out of the pandemic. Let live a good life. This is no way to live. Vaccine, lock down, mask forever. No, let it rip / burn.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596828]Let it rip, let it burn. And get back to normal life. But we are not doing that now, are we. Our head is in our ass.[/QUOTE]Wondering what head in ass means to you.

Most of my country, USA, is completely wide open with some mask restrictions and some workplaces requiring vaccination. Schools are open. Bars open. People back to work. Basically you can do whatever you want.

Hospitals are packed and with about a 5:1 unvaxxed to vaxxed ratio. Average age in my particular hospital just dropped to 59 years.

So I have no idea what your bitching about when you say we.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2596760]Even if we would account for the lag effect properly (usually takes a few weeks from case to hospital to ICU to death), the vaccine still looks pretty good. In Germany at least.[/QUOTE]People without comorbidity have nothing to worry about. The vaccine work in preventing hospitalization and death in people with comorbidity. However, like antibiotic drug resistant bacteria. The vaccine is selecting for adaptive immunity resistant virus. Eventually will killing younger people as well. This is a forever pandemic.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2596862]Wondering what head in ass means to you.

Most of my country, USA, is completely wide open with some mask restrictions and some workplaces requiring vaccination. Schools are open. Bars open. People back to work. Basically you can do whatever you want.

Hospitals are packed and with about a 5:1 unvaxxed to vaxxed ratio. Average age in my particular hospital just dropped to 59 years.

So I have no idea what your bitching about when you say we.[/QUOTE]Not sure what state you living in. Where I'm at, even fully vax can't go into the office. Only lab people can go in. And those fully vax lab people have to wear mask. They relax the mask thing for a few weeks. But oh No delta.

You already know what head in ass mean to me. And I already know your answer. It is pointless. Let it rip and burn.

Me: vaccine select for vaccine resistant mutation, and variant that will kill young people. Therefore this pandemic will last forever.

You: evolution is theoretical. And real life something, something.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2596862]Wondering what head in ass means to you.

Most of my country, USA, is completely wide open with some mask restrictions and some workplaces requiring vaccination. Schools are open. Bars open. People back to work. Basically you can do whatever you want.

Hospitals are packed and with about a 5:1 unvaxxed to vaxxed ratio. Average age in my particular hospital just dropped to 59 years.

So I have no idea what your bitching about when you say we.[/QUOTE]Funny in US, fights in some flights with injured air hostesses, between some who don t want to put on mask in plane and those who put, not only in 1 flight.

I wrote it many times, the vaccines have a efficiency around 50% like for the normal flue, if you are vaccinated, wearing a mask and frequently washing your hand the risks are quite low. But some places or activities are at higher risks like FKK which are at extreme risks. Despite fact that you are young, healthy not 1 serious doctor can guarantee you that you will not die from the covid. Looking at global figures will bring you nothing if you are in a ICU bed.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596889]People without comorbidity have nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]Once again, this is not true.

[URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01433-3[/URL]

[QUOTE]In these young adults, comorbidity was not significantly associated with persistent symptoms (33% versus 31%, P = 1) or fatigue (47% versus 27%, P = 0.2), although numbers of subjects were low[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596889]People without comorbidity have nothing to worry about. The vaccine work in preventing hospitalization and death in people with comorbidity. However, like antibiotic drug resistant bacteria. The vaccine is selecting for adaptive immunity resistant virus. Eventually will killing younger people as well. This is a forever pandemic.[/QUOTE]In the beginning, they said the vaccine would prevent you from getting Covid.

Then they changed it to, it will prevent you from getting really ill, when catching Covid.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596929]Not sure what state you living in. Where I'm at, even fully vax can't go into the office. Only lab people can go in. And those fully vax lab people have to wear mask. They relax the mask thing for a few weeks. But oh No delta.


You: evolution is theoretical. And real life something, something.[/QUOTE]Sorry that your daily life is not 100% as you want. Inconvenience is part of being an adult, but life is 90% normal for 90% of Americans, loose estimation. Completely normal in my area. So no idea about what "head in ass" claim means outside of media headlines that rile up emotions.

Belittling the effect of this illness by stating that only the old and people with comorbidities have to worry does not factor that over 20% of the American population is over 65. Add people with comorbidities and and we are speaking about about one third of the population affected that you quickly disregard. In America, that is over 100 million at risk. Similar rates in Europe for elderly with perhaps less comorbidity. Either way, easily 25% of 500 million, another 125 million at risk.

Fearmongering about possible future variants is quite manipulative in its own right. Possible sure, addressing the burning house that was the completely full hospitals over the winter with people needlessly dying or suffering from extended illness was of greater importance than an idealistic, academic consideration of "what ifs". Must be nice to have the luxury of considering ideal, theoretical sequela. But realities of the Front lines require emergency intervention. Academic theory is nice, but in cases of emergency, quick action is needed.

While you promote a "let it burn" philosophy as a general rule, I only support this approach after considering the previous year's interventions because I feel that we have done enough to mitigate loss, given people time and options to protect themselves. "Let it rip" is my attitude now only because I don't believe in forcing people's hand after providing them the facts and tools and the most at risk groups have been vaccinated at a reasonable proportion. There is now a lower ceiling for maximum loss.

Realities not Ideology.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2597034]Funny in US, fights in some flights with injured air hostesses, between some who don t want to put on mask in plane and those who put, not only in 1 flight.[/QUOTE]Cool story.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2597127]In the beginning, they said the vaccine would prevent you from getting Covid.

Then they changed it to, it will prevent you from getting really ill, when catching Covid.[/QUOTE]Things change. Delta exploded. Vaccines were tested when wild type, Kent, and South African strains were dominant.

Not like they moved the goal post. The game changed. Science is not static.

You work with the data you have, anticipate potential issues the best you can. Despite this, they are pretty useful in fighting this pandemic level illness.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2596832]Let it burn,. That is the only way out of the pandemic. Let live a good life. This is no way to live. Vaccine, lock down, mask forever. No, let it rip / burn.[/QUOTE]Well, that's more like a strategy than a way out. Just like vaccines are.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2597034]Funny in US, fights in some flights with injured air hostesses, between some who don t want to put on mask in plane and those who put, not only in 1 flight.[/QUOTE]Can you blame them? I mean putting on a mask is really the worst of the worst things in life!

LOL.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2597169]Cool story.[/QUOTE]Not so cool but pathetic and unrespectful with a injured woman, like at the beginning of covid, those US not wanting to put on mask who threatened coughing in face those who asked them to put. Didn't you hear about these 2? In France, we have also our big shame, I may be too stupid but can't understand in my country, more than 100 and I think nearly 180 before covid, women are killed by partner per year, even many women are beaten or psychological violented, but incredible figure and I feel shameful for my country of liberty.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2597214]Can you blame them? I mean putting on a mask is really the worst of the worst things in life!

LOL.[/QUOTE]I will vaccine only to keep my freedom, I hate mask, but I put on when I m asked and even in brothels. I write my real data to be contacted if needed, not to kill people from my way of life. Just respect for others, but not sure respect is very usual in US?

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2597214]Can you blame them? I mean putting on a mask is really the worst of the worst things in life!

LOL.[/QUOTE]After a month in DEU I am back on US soil. Was in a supermarket today. Shocking to see almost nobody wears a mask. Substantial difference compared to DEU where masks indoors are a norm everywhere. On a side note, I also booked another 2 weeks returning to DEU in September. Cannot wait to be back. I admit I am a fucking FKK addict. LOL.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2597073]Once again, this is not true.

[URL]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01433-3[/URL][/QUOTE]There are plenty of doctor saying they can easily cure long covid. But I'm not a doctor. I did not take the vaccine. I just do what these doctor said to prevent infection. Recently, due to contact tracing, I found out I unknowingly spent half a day with a positive person. And I'm negative. So, they must be doing something right.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2597127]In the beginning, they said the vaccine would prevent you from getting Covid.

Then they changed it to, it will prevent you from getting really ill, when catching Covid.[/QUOTE]Don't forget they also, changes the PCR cycle threshold to make the vaccine look good. It still fail. So they move the goal post to prevent illness. You can't make this shit up.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2597166]Sorry that your daily life is not 100% as you want. Inconvenience is part of being an adult, but life is 90% normal for 90% of Americans, loose estimation. Completely normal in my area. So no idea about what "head in ass" claim means outside of media headlines that rile up emotions.

Belittling the effect of this illness by stating that only the old and people with comorbidities have to worry does not factor that over 20% of the American population is over 65. Add people with comorbidities and and we are speaking about about one third of the population affected that you quickly disregard. In America, that is over 100 million at risk. Similar rates in Europe for elderly with perhaps less comorbidity. Either way, easily 25% of 500 million, another 125 million at risk.

Fearmongering about possible future variants is quite manipulative in its own right. Possible sure, addressing the burning house that was the completely full hospitals over the winter with people needlessly dying or suffering from extended illness was of greater importance than an idealistic, academic consideration of "what ifs". Must be nice to have the luxury of considering ideal, theoretical sequela. But realities of the Front lines require emergency intervention. Academic theory is nice, but in cases of emergency, quick action is needed.

While you promote a "let it burn" philosophy as a general rule, I only support this approach after considering the previous year's interventions because I feel that we have done enough to mitigate loss, given people time and options to protect themselves. "Let it rip" is my attitude now only because I don't believe in forcing people's hand after providing them the facts and tools and the most at risk groups have been vaccinated at a reasonable proportion. There is now a lower ceiling for maximum loss.

Realities not Ideology.[/QUOTE]TLDR, let stop teaching silly idea like evolution in school. Let teach people the truth, that is intelligent design. The UK SAGE must be wrong then. Why would they worry about silly thing like immune escape? It is mess up that they got a lot of people to take vaccine, then say that high vaccination rate may lead to immune escape.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2597199]Well, that's more like a strategy than a way out. Just like vaccines are.[/QUOTE]At this point, too many people have already taken the vaccine. It does not matter if more people will take it, or no one will take it. Immune escape will happen. With the current vaccine strategy, we will have forever pandemic and a variant that will go after younger people.

Our scientific bureaucrat are incapable of doing the right thing, they think evolution is some silly idea. Let it burn is the only strategy that will lead to a way out.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2597215]Not so cool but pathetic and unrespectful with a injured woman, like at the beginning of covid, those US not wanting to put on mask who threatened coughing in face those who asked them to put. Didn't you hear about these 2? In France, we have also our big shame, I may be too stupid but can't understand in my country, more than 100 and I think nearly 180 before covid, women are killed by partner per year, even many women are beaten or psychological violented, but incredible figure and I feel shameful for my country of liberty.[/QUOTE]Spread the hate around:

KLM from Amsterdam to Spain:

[URL]https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20200803-two-arrested-over-covid-19-facemask-brawl-on-klm-flight-to-ibiza[/URL]

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597325]TLDR, let stop teaching silly idea like evolution in school. Let teach people the truth, that is intelligent design. The UK SAGE must be wrong then. Why would they worry about silly thing like immune escape? It is mess up that they got a lot of people to take vaccine, then say that high vaccination rate may lead to immune escape.[/QUOTE]Ideology versus reality.

Little point in locking your doors when your house is on fire.

Not TLDR for you is it? Straight trolling while wearing blinders and earmuffs.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597324]Don't forget they also, changes the PCR cycle threshold to make the vaccine look good. It still fail. So they move the goal post to prevent illness. You can't make this shit up.[/QUOTE]No need to change pcr thresholds to make vaccines look good. Hospital ratios of vaxxed to unvaxxed makes the vaccines look even better.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597324]Don't forget they also, changes the PCR cycle threshold to make the vaccine look good. It still fail. So they move the goal post to prevent illness. You can't make this shit up.[/QUOTE]Even FLCCC docs don't generally make bias claims about the vaccine. They just provide their alternative strategy for prevention. I think it was Dr Corey who said he supported his wife's decision to take the vaccine. Hell, I told a patient who had vaccine hesitancy that I support her decision to seek an Ivermectin script from her GP, but only to use as a [B]prophylaxis[/B] rather than a treatment. This shouldn't be a team sport.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2597344]Ideology versus reality.

Little point in locking your doors when your house is on fire.

Not TLDR for you is it? Straight trolling while wearing blinders and earmuffs.[/QUOTE]It is pointless. I already know everything you will say. You already know what I'm going to say. So why write a long essay. Time will tell who is right. Not that it matter because none of us can really change anything. But I do hope I'm wrong about everything.

If I'm wrong about evolution, I need to do some thinking, go back to church and study the bible.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597323]There are plenty of doctor saying they can easily cure long covid.[/QUOTE]There are also plenty of doctors who say that when you have fibrosis in your lungs, they're fucked up for life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2597215]Not so cool but pathetic and unrespectful with a injured woman, like at the beginning of covid, those US not wanting to put on mask who threatened coughing in face those who asked them to put. Didn't you hear about these 2? In France, we have also our big shame, I may be too stupid but can't understand in my country, more than 100 and I think nearly 180 before covid, women are killed by partner per year, even many women are beaten or psychological violented, but incredible figure and I feel shameful for my country of liberty.[/QUOTE]France country of liberty, let me laugh a little bit. Are you free to go every where at any time, for example in the 93 by 1 AM, taking the metro or RER in Paris at any time without feeling unsafe? Do you really believe that young and sexy woman have nowadays in France the possibility to wear short dresses so easily like 50 years back, France has changed you live in the past.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2597034]Funny in US, fights in some flights with injured air hostesses, between some who don t want to put on mask in plane and those who put, not only in 1 flight.[/QUOTE]That is why alcohol is banned on the US flights because of irresponsible people who don't wear masks.

The only people exempt from masks are illegal immigrants and refugees who avoid both covid testing and masks on any flights.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2597343]Spread the hate around:

KLM from Amsterdam to Spain:

[URL]https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20200803-two-arrested-over-covid-19-facemask-brawl-on-klm-flight-to-ibiza[/URL][/QUOTE]I didn't hear about this one, but people think they can do everything when going to Ibiza. Not only lungs but brain fucked by covid. At least, covid showed for some societies and people behavior.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2597305]I will vaccine only to keep my freedom, I hate mask, but I put on when I m asked and even in brothels. I write my real data to be contacted if needed, not to kill people from my way of life. Just respect for others, but not sure respect is very usual in US?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about US either! I doubt it.

I also dislike the mask, makes it difficult to show the flight attendants my big smile.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2597310]After a month in DEU I am back on US soil. Was in a supermarket today. Shocking to see almost nobody wears a mask. Substantial difference compared to DEU where masks indoors are a norm everywhere. On a side note, I also booked another 2 weeks returning to DEU in September. Cannot wait to be back. I admit I am a fucking FKK addict. LOL.[/QUOTE]So the line up's of girls were good enough for you to make another trip?

Compared to pre Covid, how good?

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2597415]France country of liberty, let me laugh a little bit. Are you free to go every where at any time, for example in the 93 by 1 AM, taking the metro or RER in Paris at any time without feeling unsafe? Do you really believe that young and sexy woman have nowadays in France the possibility to wear short dresses so easily like 50 years back, France has changed you live in the past.[/QUOTE]I was born, studied, always worked and lived in Paris area, even working in 93/95, so this is my garden and I feel safe, even I love so much my mountains I enjoy again on this Summer. But unfortunately, when I hear many girls now don t dare to be topless on beaches, afraid to be aggressed, I find this really sad and I would worry if I had a girlfriend or daughter or even son, but safety is different than liberty to think, to decide.

CNN Health: With more than 100,000 people in the hospital with Covid-19 in the US, this August is worse than last, expert says.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html[/URL]

Who of us mongers still think the Biden-Harris (with multiple vaccines available for many months since he took office, and with all the lessons learned from 2020) is doing better job than Trump-Pence (with no vaccines available during his time, and no lessons from prior Covid history)? Who wants to still support Biden? I am not even considering the Afghanistan or the border disasters.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597327]At this point, too many people have already taken the vaccine. It does not matter if more people will take it, or no one will take it. Immune escape will happen. With the current vaccine strategy, we will have forever pandemic and a variant that will go after younger people.

Our scientific bureaucrat are incapable of doing the right thing, they think evolution is some silly idea. Let it burn is the only strategy that will lead to a way out.[/QUOTE]Of course vaccines won't work. Not to mention the vaxxed needs new shots every 6 months.

But letting it burn won't burn it away. It will just turn into a seasonal endemic, and we have no idea where the mutation rate will stabilize.

Regarding DNA changing vaccines, India just approved a home grown DNA vaccine against covid. Wonder how that one will turn out in terms of side effects. Because they didn't do any testing related to side effects. LOL?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2597361]This shouldn't be a team sport.[/QUOTE]I'm not on any team. When people ignore evolution and push for one side, I just have to say WTF. I just say it the way I see it.

Now, I'm in a situation where I'm force to take a vaccine. Yeah I will take it, with a ton of dexamethasone.

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2597544]So the line up's of girls were good enough for you to make another trip?

Compared to pre Covid, how good?[/QUOTE]I can only speak for Samya, ACA, and Schieferhof end of July and August. Sadly, overall quality of clubs 2021 was barely half of what they were in 2019 and prior years. This also coincided by traditionally slow holiday time in August, perhaps September will improve.

I had an especially unsettling time a week when Samya was temporarily shut down due to the incidence. In summary, everything was average at best, but definitely worse than any of my pre-covid trips. This included line ups, girls' moods, food variety, general atmosphere, mask requirements, and everything else. Expensive car rental, bad traffic around Koln and Bonn (A555, A4, A57, A59, A559 and A1, A565 towards Koblenz / Bad Godesberg being absolutely the worst because of the flood damage). In every club there were perhaps 2 or 3 girls doable for me, but sometimes only one who I could session with. Really limited choices.

The reason I fly back next month is because my favorite returns from her holiday. She is my miracle. My true rubber-filling miracle. When she is working I session only with her and I don't see other women and I can easily have 3 or 4 amazing rooms with her. She makes me feel 25 years younger, what else can I wish for in life?

I am scared things may get worse because of the delta and other potential shitty mutants later in the year. I admit this trip will be a gamble on my part. Trying to catch the moment and expecting things to go well primarily with one specific girl.

There are plenty of indicators, including new 48-HR PCR test requirement in NRW for unvaccinated tutes, suggesting the line ups could deteriorate even further. Starting Monday October 11 any unvaccinated German citizen has to pay for a PCR test which is then valid for 48 hours, and the cost will be 35 to 50 euros, which is obviously unsustainable by the tutes. I predict most tutes will adapt and majority will take some vaccine to continue working, but none of this helps the quality of LU in any case. Hopefully Romanian loveboy pimps will find a way around those obstacles and challenges to bring more girls to the clubs.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597370]It is pointless. I already know everything you will say. You already know what I'm going to say. So why write a long essay. Time will tell who is right. Not that it matter because none of us can really change anything. But I do hope I'm wrong about everything.

If I'm wrong about evolution, I need to do some thinking, go back to church and study the bible.[/QUOTE]Apparently you don't know what has been said, because you keep stressing the point about evolution. No one is saying microbial evolution does not exist or is a non-factor. That is something that should be commonplace knowledge amongst people with a bioscience background. Even basic evolutionary concepts should not be foreign to an educated person under 50 years old.

The point however, is that the concept of evolution is based on probability and statistics. A lot of maybe's and given enough time, all phenomenons are possible. However, the criticism is that your constant stress on the idealistic maybes of evolution seem to outweigh the realities of the current healthcare situation that affects lives on this present day.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2597684]I can only speak for Samya, ACA, and Schieferhof end of July and August. Sadly, overall quality of clubs 2021 was barely half of what they were in 2019 and prior years. This also coincided by traditionally slow holiday time in August, perhaps September will improve.

I had an especially unsettling time a week when Samya was temporarily shut down due to the incidence. In summary, everything was average at best, but definitely worse than any of my pre-covid trips. This included line ups, girls' moods, food variety, general atmosphere, mask requirements, and everything else. Expensive car rental, bad traffic around Koln and Bonn (A555, A4, A57, A59, A559 and A1, A565 towards Koblenz / Bad Godesberg being absolutely the worst because of the flood damage). In every club there were perhaps 2 or 3 girls doable for me, but sometimes only one who I could session with. Really limited choices.

The reason I fly back next month is because my favorite returns from her holiday. She is my miracle. My true rubber-filling miracle. When she is working I session only with her and I don't see other women and I can easily have 3 or 4 amazing rooms with her. She makes me feel 25 years younger, what else can I wish for in life?

I am scared things may get worse because of the delta and other potential shitty mutants later in the year. I admit this trip will be a gamble on my part. Trying to catch the moment and expecting things to go well primarily with one specific girl..[/QUOTE]NRW may not be at its best, furthermore now with PCR and even only 2 G, but Hessen which is more free on 2021 when remained closed on 2020, is not bad, at least for me who love sweet natural beauties. I agree works zones are nightmare on autobahns. I worry for my way back from my mountains, through Switzerland, I could stop at Globe closer like on 6 August, but not this time, I will go in traffic south Freiburg, then Karlsruhe, then Bruchsal since years, to Sharks which is best level I found on this year, higher than Globe, Wellcum and Samya before PCR.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2597673]Of course vaccines won't work. Not to mention the vaxxed needs new shots every 6 months.

But letting it burn won't burn it away. It will just turn into a seasonal endemic, and we have no idea where the mutation rate will stabilize.

Regarding DNA changing vaccines, India just approved a home grown DNA vaccine against covid. Wonder how that one will turn out in terms of side effects. Because they didn't do any testing related to side effects. LOL?[/QUOTE]If I could, I would not get vaccinated and my Summer sport show me again I don't need from how I improved my health and strength when doctors were not able to find about my infection, nothing about covid when they seem so obsessed about covid, and when I went to brothels on 2020 reopening and 2021, but I think vaccines are useful to protect weak, for less deaths when we had too many, but not efficient to stop spreading, when vaccination high rate countries still have delta spreading and medical still don't know much yet about covid.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2597673]Of course vaccines won't work. Not to mention the vaxxed needs new shots every 6 months.

But letting it burn won't burn it away. It will just turn into a seasonal endemic, and we have no idea where the mutation rate will stabilize.

Regarding DNA changing vaccines, India just approved a home grown DNA vaccine against covid. Wonder how that one will turn out in terms of side effects. Because they didn't do any testing related to side effects. LOL?[/QUOTE]We do have a idea of what direction the mutation will take us. If we do nothing and let it burn, it will become less pathogenic overtime. The vaccine select for mutation that is more deathly.

The technology is from a failed gene therapy tech, and I do have serious safety concern with mRNA / LNP. No need for conspiracy.

It will not change your DNA. To do that, they have to put in a code to make DNA editing enzyme. They will have to get negotiate a license and pay a percentage to the company that own the intellectual property. It is not in their financial interest to change your DNA. You would have to believe that they hate money.

DNA editing tech is not easy, can't be done in a few months. If they just threw together some code for DNA editing, you would see cancer case go up to the sky. I don't see people around me getting cancer.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597770]We do have a idea of what direction the mutation will take us. If we do nothing and let it burn, it will become less pathogenic overtime. The vaccine select for mutation that is more deathly.
[/QUOTE]Please educate us how selection by vaccines created a more "deadly" mutation than natural selection.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2597768]my Summer sport show me again I don't need from how I improved my health and strength.[/QUOTE]You must be in terrible shape if you improve at 55 after cycling 100 km.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2597770]The technology is from a failed gene therapy tech, and I do have serious safety concern with mRNA / LNP. No need for conspiracy.[/QUOTE]The rate of side effects from both the adenovirus and mRNA vaccines are dangerously high. Millions are getting sick for a long time.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2597976]Please educate us how selection by vaccines created a more "deadly" mutation than natural selection.[/QUOTE]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2598197]The rate of side effects from both the adenovirus and mRNA vaccines are dangerously high. Millions are getting sick for a long time.[/QUOTE]Total bullshit as usual.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]That makes no molecular science sense.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]First Delta variant identified, October 2020:

[URL]https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/[/URL]

First vaccine given December 2020.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642[/URL]

Chronologically impossible.

Au contraire. They started Oxford University trials way back in June 2020 I think. So these clinical trial could also have caused the UK variant to occur in the first place.

Then someone with the vaccine in England back in July could have transferred his mutated variant which survived his vaccination and so on and so forth until one of the many Indians in England went back to India for a visit.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2598330]First Delta variant identified, October 2020:

[URL]https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/[/URL]

First vaccine given December 2020.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642[/URL]

Chronologically impossible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2598089]You must be in terrible shape if you improve at 55 after cycling 100 km.[/QUOTE]I started really down for power on Sunday 8 August when I was more than 1 month late, but made a great job to improve, climbing Iseran 2770, Gran San Bernardino 2420 from Aosta, Izoard 2340, Galibier 2620, Agnello 2744 twice, la Bonette 2802. Ask any professional racer or team manager, when I didn't see you nor any of my other followers, and now I m ready to return, but to perform, not making curves like Italiens, but facing straight the steep, to Zoncolan, Mortirolo, Stelvio, Gavia if I have time and I do' t forget Loze. My passion holidays are not finished, still 11 climbings to enjoy.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]That is totally wrong. It has nothing to do with vaccination status and the UK. The delta variant is a mutation that originated in India, almost certainly amongst the unvaccinated. It spread rapidly and as the UK has a large Indian / Pakistani population it was inevitable to be the first European country where it spread to.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2598285]Total bullshit as usual.[/QUOTE]Look at the covid vaccines:

[URL]https://www.adrreports.eu/en/search_subst.html[/URL]#.

From what I know and hear from people working closely on it, only about a 3rd gets reported in to these statistics, and only the most severe effects. Men also underreport heavily, and there is usually a much longer lag in the reports made by men than by women. Even still, the number of serious side effects in Europe alone (10% of the global population), while the vaccination rate in Europe for 2 dosages (when most side effects appear) is less than 50% continent wide, is already at close to 1 million in these statistics!

Add in the lag in reporting.

Multiple it by 10 (global pop).

And multiple it by 3 due to malreportings.

Sum: Globally we would talk about over 50 million serious side effects!

Also notice the extremely high percentage rate of the cases reported in, being from healthcare workers!

This implies that they report in their own side effects, but the massive underreporting is among the non-healthcare workers.

So the real numbers of serious side effects are much much larger!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2598330]First Delta variant identified, October 2020:

[URL]https://www.who.int/en/activities/tracking-SARS-CoV-2-variants/[/URL]

First vaccine given December 2020.

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642[/URL]

Chronologically impossible.[/QUOTE]DrPoon you have been pooned.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]Probably you are not vaccinated, when I was young many years back we learned that vaccines safe life and in 1965 it was impossible to go to school without being vaccinated about many different disease, after at the army it was also obligatory, today so many people deny the reality.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598219]The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.[/QUOTE]Your source please.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/29/world/europe/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html[/URL]

Finally.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/29/texas-caleb-wallace-anti-mask-protests-freedom-dies-covid-19[/URL]

Too bad for his child to come. Looks like ivermectin doesn't work so well (along with goat testicle powder, full moon spider sperm, and so on).

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2598647][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/29/world/europe/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html[/URL]

Finally.[/QUOTE]We should let the Europeans into the USA ASAP, although for the life of me I can't figure out why a European would want to visit here?! Everything is so much better in European countries. Other than guns but I think Europeans can just go to Switzerland for the shooting ranges or maybe Israel.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598399]Au contraire. They started Oxford University trials way back in June 2020 I think. So these clinical trial could also have caused the UK variant to occur in the first place.

Then someone with the vaccine in England back in July could have transferred his mutated variant which survived his vaccination and so on and so forth until one of the many Indians in England went back to India for a visit.[/QUOTE]Also possible that a hot, 24 year old, female nymphomaniac sleepwalks into my house this evening and begins to suck and fuck me till completion, remains asleep, and sleepwalks her way back home leaving me completely satisfied and rested.

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2597684]I can only speak for Samya, ACA, and Schieferhof end of July and August. Sadly, overall quality of clubs 2021 was barely half of what they were in 2019 and prior years. This also coincided by traditionally slow holiday time in August, perhaps September will improve.

I had an especially unsettling time a week when Samya was temporarily shut down due to the incidence. In summary, everything was average at best, but definitely worse than any of my pre-covid trips. This included line ups, girls' moods, food variety, general atmosphere, mask requirements, and everything else. Expensive car rental, bad traffic around Koln and Bonn (A555, A4, A57, A59, A559 and A1, A565 towards Koblenz / Bad Godesberg being absolutely the worst because of the flood damage). In every club there were perhaps 2 or 3 girls doable for me, but sometimes only one who I could session with. Really limited choices.

The reason I fly back next month is because my favorite returns from her holiday. She is my miracle. My true rubber-filling miracle. When she is working I session only with her and I don't see other women and I can easily have 3 or 4 amazing rooms with her. She makes me feel 25 years younger, what else can I wish for in life?

I am scared things may get worse because of the delta and other potential shitty mutants later in the year. I admit this trip will be a gamble on my part. Trying to catch the moment and expecting things to go well primarily with one specific girl..[/QUOTE]Thanks for a very long and informative reply.

That favorite WG of yours must be very special.

I wish you good luck.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2598560]Probably you are not vaccinated, when I was young many years back we learned that vaccines safe life and in 1965 it was impossible to go to school without being vaccinated about many different disease, after at the army it was also obligatory, today so many people deny the reality.[/QUOTE]Learnt is not the same as being told.

Facts of life 101.

The pro-vaxxer amateurs here on ISG reminds me of this:

[URL]https://youtu.be/ytni1V5WqMo[/URL]

Just send the ravens!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2598803][URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/29/texas-caleb-wallace-anti-mask-protests-freedom-dies-covid-19[/URL][/QUOTE]This is fake AI created news. This guy never existed. All AI created from the ground up. With paid actresses on various media outlets as well as deep fakes. The extent to which the US PR companies are operating with AI these days in order to quack out fake news stories just like this is remarkable. It is a Milestone in AI handling, but not really that innovative. All are based on old strategies and ideas.

For one, I can tell this is AI created by the way it write the stories. I have read 3 or 4 similar fake news stories written almost identically in the past month or so. 100% AI fakes.

In the recent decade, there has been an increase in mumps-related orchitis (swelling and inflammation of the testicles). It is mostly seen in post-pubescent males who were not vaccinated with the MMR vaccine. It is a result of the vaccine skepticism that started in the late 1990's based on false claims. Due to this, we are now seeing endemic pockets of unvaccinated men with inflamed, swollen, and eventually shrunken balls all over the western world.

[URL]https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2009.09148.x[/URL]

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598820]We should let the Europeans into the USA ASAP, although for the life of me I can't figure out why a European would want to visit here?! Everything is so much better in European countries. Other than guns but I think Europeans can just go to Switzerland for the shooting ranges or maybe Israel.[/QUOTE]I fully agree with your sarcasm on "why a European would want to visit here". But jokes aside there are many Europeans working in the USA who cannot go home to see their families:

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/06/26/europe-travel-ban-hardship/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2598987]Thanks for a very long and informative reply.

That favorite WG of yours must be very special.

I wish you good luck.[/QUOTE]Glad to share. Likewise I thank you for all your informative posts about FKK Artemis Berlin, which I always read. I was in Berlin a few times but never made it to Artemis. Many more places to explore in the future.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2599084]For one, I can tell this is AI created by the way it write the stories. I have read 3 or 4 similar fake news stories written almost identically in the past month or so. 100% AI fakes.[/QUOTE]Your usual fucked up bullshit.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598820]... I can't figure out why a European would want to visit here?! Everything is so much better in European countries...[/QUOTE](Maybe) Yosemite?

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2598820]We should let the Europeans into the USA ASAP, although for the life of me I can't figure out why a European would want to visit here?! Everything is so much better in European countries. Other than guns but I think Europeans can just go to Switzerland for the shooting ranges or maybe Israel.[/QUOTE]When I visited some US places, disappointed by Miami beach except warm ocean, but I regret I didn't visit NYC before 11 September. When I won't be anymore able to climb or free ride, want to visit. I loved San Francisco. Was not interested by Orlando Disney, when never visited Eurodisney close to Paris. Also interested by Alaska on Winter, for the magic. Yes guns allowance is really crazy when no more Indians to kill.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2599326](Maybe) Yosemite?[/QUOTE]3:08 to 3:15. Intentional reference?

[URL]https://youtu.be/4fTkA3dvpPM[/URL]

But in all seriousness, yeah, I have a hard time coming up with things to tell Europeans when they ask me what they must see in America. Unless they are into the great outdoors, there is nothing for them to experience here that they cannot see in their own continent. Make money in America, enjoy the world's treasures and great cultures elsewhere.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2599266]Your usual fucked up bullshit.[/QUOTE]Do you think it's him trolling or is it psychosis?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2599266]Your usual fucked up bullshit.[/QUOTE]The fact that you don't understand technology is beyond question long time ago.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2599127]In the recent decade, there has been an increase in mumps-related orchitis (swelling and inflammation of the testicles). It is mostly seen in post-pubescent males who were not vaccinated with the MMR vaccine. It is a result of the vaccine skepticism that started in the late 1990's based on false claims. Due to this, we are now seeing endemic pockets of unvaccinated men with inflamed, swollen, and eventually shrunken balls all over the western world.

[URL]https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2009.09148.x[/URL][/QUOTE]So what's your excuse? I mean, you got the vaxx didn't you?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2599470]So what's your excuse? I mean, you got the vaxx didn't you?[/QUOTE]Perfectly sized, diseases free balls. Thanks for your concern psycho.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2599415]Do you think it's him trolling or is it psychosis?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I think that he never trolls.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2599376]When I visited some US places, disappointed by Miami beach except warm ocean, but I regret I didn't visit NYC before 11 September. When I won't be anymore able to climb or free ride, want to visit. I loved San Francisco. Was not interested by Orlando Disney, when never visited Eurodisney close to Paris. Also interested by Alaska on Winter, for the magic. Yes guns allowance is really crazy when no more Indians to kill.[/QUOTE]Just a point of information. Current conditions of San Francisco have deteriorated to include human waste and urine on the streets and drug needles which would require reinforced shoes for safety. Guns in California have been banned with now only the people selling drugs and doing armed robberies are allowed to carry guns.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2599392]3:08 to 3:15. Intentional reference?.[/QUOTE]Yes, intentional. In all fairness, there are plenty of places to visit in the US.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2599534]Unfortunately I think that he never trolls.[/QUOTE]Of course I don't troll. I tell the truth.

[URL]https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/more-infectious-c-1-2-strain-found-in-6-countries-worries-scientists-2524361[/URL]

Get ready for see. 1.2. The yearly mutation is still at 30-35 mutations a year, and they have basically grouped several versions into one now. Some of these see. 1.2 versions are immune to the vaccine antibodies.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2599415]Do you think it's him trolling or is it psychosis?[/QUOTE]I put my money on psychosis.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2599571]Just a point of information. Current conditions of San Francisco have deteriorated to include human waste and urine on the streets and drug needles which would require reinforced shoes for safety. Guns in California have been banned with now only the people selling drugs and doing armed robberies are allowed to carry guns.[/QUOTE]I found San Francisco was a beautiful town, but it was 15 years ago. Very good guns are banned in California, no more Indians, nor wolves. Crazy what is happening in Texas with no license but allowed to get gun. Will have many deaths.

One less.

[URL]https://www.thewrap.com/marc-bernier-anti-vax-radio-host-dies-from-covid-19/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2599719]I found San Francisco was a beautiful town, but it was 15 years ago.[/QUOTE]The good old day, back when SF bay area was nice. Before they shut down Myredbook, the SF girl was hotter than FKK and the service was sooo much better than the FKK. I had so much fun.

Somebody with an IT background need to start a MyRedBook "like" site for FKK girl. I bet FKK girl will improve their service, fast. The only issue would be, how to attach a review to the actual girl in the club.

The LSH site is slightly there. There is a lack of search function. The guy on myredbook was brutally honest with their review.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2599638]Yes, intentional. In all fairness, there are plenty of places to visit in the US.[/QUOTE]Good taste, good show. Too short lived.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2599837]The good old day, back when SF bay area was nice. Before they shut down Myredbook, the SF girl was hotter than FKK and the service was sooo much better than the FKK. I had so much fun.

Somebody with an IT background need to start a MyRedBook "like" site for FKK girl. I bet FKK girl will improve their service, fast. The only issue would be, how to attach a review to the actual girl in the club.

The LSH site is slightly there. There is a lack of search function. The guy on myredbook was brutally honest with their review.[/QUOTE]Redbook was great I think it was free for girls to post and they were kept accountable by their reviews. And that was the golden age of the Golden State.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2599888]Redbook was great I think it was free for girls to post and they were kept accountable by their reviews. And that was the golden age of the Golden State.[/QUOTE]In So Cal, there is humaniplex. It was great, lot of hot girl and lot of pornstar. I had many session with pornstar for 250-300 $ per hour. Some was on HX before they become pornstar. Services was great. After FOSTA-SESTA. It went down hill in term of hotness. I guess it scare a lot of girl away. Services is still great, but hot girl are much fewer, not as good looking as the FKK. The site is still operational.

Watch this:

[URL]https://youtu.be/8bauVgcqO-k[/URL]

Rand Paul is mirroring exactly 100% what I have been writing here for well over a year!

USA (and dr. Fauci) was in on it from the very beginning. That's why the coverup was also played by western media until the Chinese had managed to burn all the evidence in Wuhan. (And of course this is part of the great reset of the financial system, which I agree with, but I strongly disagree on abusing diseases and vaccines to get there).

Any imbecil with a brain realises this. These guys are not smart. Just foolish sheeps themselves who think they are smart. And that especially also goes for the imbecils here on ISG who believe the vaccine is not far more important to the end goal than the actually virus! Think! Fucking think you dumb sheeples!

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2599837]The good old day, back when SF bay area was nice. Before they shut down Myredbook, the SF girl was hotter than FKK and the service was sooo much better than the FKK. I had so much fun...[/QUOTE]I joined Redbook in 2008, and In 2006 i started visiting the FKK once a year. I live in San Francisco. I was seeing mostly Asian providers, Koreans in particular, and I still do when I am home. I cannot compare Korean providers to FKK girls, as they are different. I like both of them. However, the few Caucasian providers I tried from Redbook were nowhere close to the quality of FKK girls.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2600217]I joined Redbook in 2008, and In 2006 i started visiting the FKK once a year. I live in San Francisco. I was seeing mostly Asian providers, Koreans in particular, and I still do when I am home. I cannot compare Korean providers to FKK girls, as they are different. I like both of them. However, the few Caucasian providers I tried from Redbook were nowhere close to the quality of FKK girls.[/QUOTE]LOL. That remind me of this Chinese girl in El Cerrito, she did thing that I fail to imagine. I remember walking away thinking, people only do this shit in kink porn, not normal porn. There was also a Thai girl in Sacramento, Deja or dija. OMG, She look like a model. To me, she was the hottest girl I ever see. I must of been in Lust. I drove all the way out there and had a session with her at least once a week for a whole year. Ohhhhh the good old day.

There was lot of Caucasian girl for 200 HR. The hot one charge 300 HR. In the 250 HR, I thought they was better than FKK. But the only FKK I been to is Shark. So. Unless you recommend a better FKK. One thing about redbook and humaniplex, the experience is more like a BF / GF. Something FKK totally lack.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2600181]In So Cal, there is humaniplex. It was great, lot of hot girl and lot of pornstar. I had many session with pornstar for 250-300 $ per hour. Some was on HX before they become pornstar. Services was great. After FOSTA-SESTA. It went down hill in term of hotness. I guess it scare a lot of girl away. Services is still great, but hot girl are much fewer, not as good looking as the FKK. The site is still operational.[/QUOTE]However, people can't use humaniplex due to the computer website quarantine by humaniplex so basically it is useless for me.

Anyone affected by the travel ban and can't get in the USA can watch this great video and they will feel a lot better about not coming to the USA!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjIlZxUdz_E[/URL]

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2599837]The good old day, back when SF bay area was nice. Before they shut down Myredbook, the SF girl was hotter than FKK and the service was sooo much better than the FKK. I had so much fun.

Somebody with an IT background need to start a MyRedBook "like" site for FKK girl. I bet FKK girl will improve their service, fast. The only issue would be, how to attach a review to the actual girl in the club.

The LSH site is slightly there. There is a lack of search function. The guy on myredbook was brutally honest with their review.[/QUOTE]Why around bay is not anymore beautiful? I loved to cross golden on rental bicycle to Sosalito, to climb California and small street with many curves, even way was to go downhill. Can find really good level in FKK, my best way is to make desirable girls following me for my way for sex and still working on this Summer, when I made a low level for sex becoming my best FKK girl at LR which was told for high level services, but after 3 weeks there, she didn't improve, but became my best student.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2600295]However, people can't use humaniplex due to the computer website quarantine by humaniplex so basically it is useless for me.[/QUOTE]HX was designed to make life difficult for cop. This also making very difficult for newbies (guy and girl). If you only visit So cal once a year, there is no point. However, if you live there or visit a lot, then it might worth the trouble to jump through all of the step. I must said the quality (look) have gone down hill. Covid made it worst.

1. pay to get out of quarantine.

2. try to find a girl that will see you. As a newbie, only desperate girl will see you. If you know a guy already in HX, he can ask the girl for you. Most girl will say yes. Don't ask me. I only do that for guy that I already met in person.

3. Make sure you be nice and ask the girl to review you. This will tell other girl that you are not a cop, you are not violent, and you are OK.

4. after you get 1 or 2 review, more girl will see you. Make sure you ask them to review you.

5. Once you reach level 2, basically all of the girl will see you. Some girl don't see level 0, or level 1. Also, try to get into club, especially review club.

It seems that Austria and Croatia have instituted a 270 day limit on the vaccine dose. So far no other countries have the 270 day limit but probably will start enacting the 270 day booster limit.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2600241]LOL. That remind me of this Chinese girl in El Cerrito, she did thing that I fail to imagine. I remember walking away thinking, people only do this shit in kink porn, not normal porn.....[/QUOTE]That was part of the menu in saunas in ChangPing, China, many girls on many occasions stuck their tongues in my butthole in my sessions there. I did not really desire it but did not want to rock the boat by altering the menu.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2600733]That was part of the menu in saunas in ChangPing, China, many girls on many occasions stuck their tongues in my butthole in my sessions there. I did not really desire it but did not want to rock the boat by altering the menu.[/QUOTE]Damn. I gently declined this one, but considering it in retrospect, maybe it was not such a bad idea after all then that they closed it down.

Covid-19? Heh, just consider all those potential rectum bacterias that could have mutated.

The bottom line is that my penis has been sucked and fucked by more quality stunners than them, so that's that.

[QUOTE=AlbertBundy;2599818]I agree that anyone with 1000's of posts on an internet forum such as this is basically suspect. Certainly it reveals a probable tendency towards depression or obsession. A forum like this should be about reports and information about women and hooker establishments and not general chit-chat and argument. One wonders if the members who engage in constant argument and chit-chat have ever actually been inside a FKK. Maybe they visited once 5 years ago and have been constantly posting about it ever since. Less quantity and more quality is very badly needed here.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=HessenBob;2600166]+1 completely agree. Reports in English language are now starting to appear in some "non-English" FKK forums. There is a reason for this. Reports about the clubs and women are encouraged. General conversation and chit chat not so much.[/QUOTE]+2 totally true. Just because a guy has 5000+ posts in Germany FKK forum does not make him a FKK expert. Just makes him addicted to posting on this forum. I mean come on and get a life. This forum is lucky if 1% of the 5000+ posts is of any real value. The 99% is generally just chat, bullshit and argument. Just killing a great website and vault of information which ISG is. Come on guys more reports and less chat and bullshit. My advice, beware of anyone with 1000's of posts. There are guys who get their thrills talking dirty on forums like ISG and particularly in private chat. Its quality and not quantity that really counts when it comes to posting in any forum and particularly ISG.

[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2601547]. This forum is lucky if 1% of the 5000+ posts is of any real value. The 99% is generally just chat, bullshit and argument. Just killing a great website and vault of information which ISG is..[/QUOTE]What, pray tell, do you think the purpose of a discussion forum is? For discussion. Some people post a lot, there is nothing wrong with that. And as long as they aren't posting spam there isn't anything to worry about. Yes, some posts will not have 100% relevant information to the forum or topic title. This doesn't. Yours doesn't. That doesn't make them not worthwhile. If you only want there to be informational posts, reviews, and reports, start by not making any non-worthwhile posts yourself.

[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2601547]+2 totally true. Just because a guy has 5000+ posts in Germany FKK forum does not make him a FKK expert. Just makes him addicted to posting on this forum. I mean come on and get a life. This forum is lucky if 1% of the 5000+ posts is of any real value. The 99% is generally just chat, bullshit and argument. Just killing a great website and vault of information which ISG is. Come on guys more reports and less chat and bullshit. My advice, beware of anyone with 1000's of posts. There are guys who get their thrills talking dirty on forums like ISG and particularly in private chat. Its quality and not quantity that really counts when it comes to posting in any forum and particularly ISG.[/QUOTE]Isn't the essence of a Lounge and Chat sub forum to chat about anything and everything? The more detailed informational posts would go in the other sub forums.

[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2601547]+2 totally true. Just because a guy has 5000+ posts in Germany FKK forum does not make him a FKK expert. Just makes him addicted to posting on this forum. I mean come on and get a life. This forum is lucky if 1% of the 5000+ posts is of any real value. The 99% is generally just chat, bullshit and argument. Just killing a great website and vault of information which ISG is. Come on guys more reports and less chat and bullshit. My advice, beware of anyone with 1000's of posts. There are guys who get their thrills talking dirty on forums like ISG and particularly in private chat. Its quality and not quantity that really counts when it comes to posting in any forum and particularly ISG.[/QUOTE]Just chat? That is why this forum thread is called lounge and chat LOL!

If you do not like posts, skip it, plane simple LOL!

Reports goes to FKK thread, not lounge and chat, where we lounge around and chat LOL!

You are so biased and opinionated LOL!

[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2601547]+2 totally true. Just because a guy has 5000+ posts in Germany FKK forum does not make him a FKK expert. Just makes him addicted to posting on this forum. I mean come on and get a life. This forum is lucky if 1% of the 5000+ posts is of any real value. The 99% is generally just chat, bullshit and argument. Just killing a great website and vault of information which ISG is. Come on guys more reports and less chat and bullshit. My advice, beware of anyone with 1000's of posts. There are guys who get their thrills talking dirty on forums like ISG and particularly in private chat. Its quality and not quantity that really counts when it comes to posting in any forum and particularly ISG.[/QUOTE]And you are addicted to bitching and crying and moaning about chatting in lounger and chat thread LOL!

[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2601547]+2 totally true. Just because a guy has 5000+ posts in Germany FKK forum does not make him a FKK expert. Just makes him addicted to posting on this forum. I mean come on and get a life. This forum is lucky if 1% of the 5000+ posts is of any real value. The 99% is generally just chat, bullshit and argument. Just killing a great website and vault of information which ISG is. Come on guys more reports and less chat and bullshit. My advice, beware of anyone with 1000's of posts. There are guys who get their thrills talking dirty on forums like ISG and particularly in private chat. Its quality and not quantity that really counts when it comes to posting in any forum and particularly ISG.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid you have posted in the wrong thread, the title of this thread is "German FKK Clubs. Lounge and chat area". You need to go to a thread devoted to a particular FKK or brothel and post there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2601779]I'm afraid you have posted in the wrong thread, the title of this thread is "German FKK Clubs. Lounge and chat area". You need to go to a thread devoted to a particular FKK or brothel and post there.[/QUOTE]Agreed. There are "lounge" threads and "rants" threads but there are also General info and specific brothel threads. Never understood why people are bothered by chitter chatter, even if vile, on the threads made for bullshitting.

Criticism should be directed at the posters who continue to flood specific brothel threads with bullshitting and insults. Moderators could easily take care of that. For a while, they were moving irrelevant banter from certain threads and moving them to the rants thread.

[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2601547]+2 totally true. Just because a guy has 5000+ posts in Germany FKK forum does not make him a FKK expert. Just makes him addicted to posting on this forum. I mean come on and get a life. This forum is lucky if 1% of the 5000+ posts is of any real value. The 99% is generally just chat, bullshit and argument. Just killing a great website and vault of information which ISG is. Come on guys more reports and less chat and bullshit. My advice, beware of anyone with 1000's of posts. There are guys who get their thrills talking dirty on forums like ISG and particularly in private chat. Its quality and not quantity that really counts when it comes to posting in any forum and particularly ISG.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrHo;2601752]And you are addicted to bitching and crying and moaning about chatting in lounger and chat thread LOL![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrHo;2601735]Just chat? That is why this forum thread is called lounge and chat LOL!

If you do not like posts, skip it, plane simple LOL!

Reports goes to FKK thread, not lounge and chat, where we lounge around and chat LOL!

You are so biased and opinionated LOL![/QUOTE]I notice that you are 1000+ post guy. Sorry if my post has touched a raw nerve and caused you upset.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2601792]Agreed. There are "lounge" threads and "rants" threads but there are also General info and specific brothel threads. Never understood why people are bothered by chitter chatter, even if vile, on the threads made for bullshitting.

Criticism should be directed at the posters who continue to flood specific brothel threads with bullshitting and insults. Moderators could easily take care of that. For a while, they were moving irrelevant banter from certain threads and moving them to the rants thread.[/QUOTE]Perfectly said. Far too much crap posted in the specific FKK threads which completely ruins Germany FKK. Far too much argument and irrelevant chat particularly from some very suspect characters who write in quasi-English.

[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2601886]I notice that you are 1000+ post guy. Sorry if my post has touched a raw nerve and caused you upset.[/QUOTE]So am I supposed to say you are 10 plus guy LOL I mean you know how childish your claims are, how one has to be for coming up with narrow minded blocked way of thinking LOL! It is pathetic LOL!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2601792]Agreed. There are "lounge" threads and "rants" threads but there are also General info and specific brothel threads. Never understood why people are bothered by chitter chatter, even if vile, on the threads made for bullshitting.

Criticism should be directed at the posters who continue to flood specific brothel threads with bullshitting and insults. Moderators could easily take care of that. For a while, they were moving irrelevant banter from certain threads and moving them to the rants thread.[/QUOTE]There are those who just post to agitate and this poster has multiple account with different handle name LOL! It is same formula and mindset as society pointing finger at mongers, it is this is bad period, this is that period mentality and this guy just post to agitate others.

[URL]https://youtu.be/3O_7O9_nV10[/URL]

So Pistons, how does it feel to always be right?

Well, you are referring to CNN spewing out their fake news propaganda and all the incompetent sheeps listening to them? As well as the core of the covid plandemic being all about the vaccine?

Yes.

Well, I feel kinda sad. It is like discussing with a brink wall. There is zero intelligence inside. So, I might as well discuss with myself instead. A few guys here like HammerTime and some more do have something between their ears, but the others should just get a lobotomy straight away. Save the climate, have the sheep's suicide! That is the real climate issue. Brainless people having their say in a democracy. Cause then it's not a democracy any longer due to them not having minds of their own. They can only emulate CNN and other fake news they listen to. No logical subjective mind to create cognitive sets of reason.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2601912]So am I supposed to say you are 10 plus guy LOL I mean you know how childish your claims are, how one has to be for coming up with narrow minded blocked way of thinking LOL! It is pathetic LOL![/QUOTE]I don't see the need to respond harsh to him. He first thought the role of the lounge thread is different, that's it. He doesn't have many posts, but he actually posted club reports. And I totally agree that there are people who post too much even if they have nothing new to say (me included).

I agree that the lounge and the rants thread are for bullshit and that the club specific threads should be only for club related reports and information. Posting about other clubs or random delusions in a club specific thread just pulls the value of the thread down.

Israel is now reporting that four vaccine doses are needed!

That's about as believable as all your ramblings about covid and Donald Trump. You really think that a girl is going to take the risk to damage her work tool (her body) just because you made a stupid joke about fucking a condom? Only a gonorrhea could keep her away from work for maybe a week, that's lots of money lost. And most of these girls want to have babies after.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2601936][URL]https://youtu.be/3O_7O9_nV10[/URL]

So Pistons, how does it feel to always be right?.[/QUOTE]1 - you're talking to yourself, that's embarrassing (like when some other dude quotes himself constantly).

2 - you still don't make the difference between a video on YouTube posted by some random weirdo and science literature? You're about as clever as the fucking pricks who took part in the terror attacks in Paris 6 years ago: they couldn't read the Coran (too complicated) but they found some summaries on the internet.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2602362]Israel is now reporting that four vaccine doses are needed![/QUOTE]Because the vaccine suck. Unlike other vaccine like polio, herd immunity is impossible with these gene therapy technology. What will they do when escape mutation or antigenic imprinting happen.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2601936][URL]https://youtu.be/3O_7O9_nV10[/URL]

So Pistons, how does it feel to always be right?

Well, you are referring to CNN spewing out their fake news propaganda and all the incompetent sheeps listening to them? As well as the core of the covid plandemic being all about the vaccine?

Yes.

Well, I feel kinda sad. It is like discussing with a brink wall. There is zero intelligence inside. So, I might as well discuss with myself instead. A few guys here like HammerTime and some more do have something between their ears, but the others should just get a lobotomy straight away. Save the climate, have the sheep's suicide! That is the real climate issue. Brainless people having their say in a democracy. Cause then it's not a democracy any longer due to them not having minds of their own. They can only emulate CNN and other fake news they listen to. No logical subjective mind to create cognitive sets of reason.[/QUOTE]Not long ago, I unknowing spend half a day with a covid positive person. I tested negative. I don't have the vax. I do take 5000 IU of vitamin D and 3 MG of Ivermectin every 3 days.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2602509]Not long ago, I unknowing spend half a day with a covid positive person. I tested negative. I don't have the vax. I do take 5000 IU of vitamin D and 3 MG of Ivermectin every 3 days.[/QUOTE]I actually think I had it this summer. Had some fever for a day and a half. And then a month and a half with some dry caught and tiredness and sweating after gym or sex. With possibly mild fever again a few hours. Though I didn't check. The dry caught was when I felt something down in my lungs. So typical covid symptoms. Weak ass virus if you ask me. I did test negative twice on rapid test, but I still think it was covid. Tanning and taking vitamin the was clearly the medicine that helped the most. As well as fish oil of course. Since there are essential oils in that which helps in the vitamin the uptake.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2602503]1 - you're talking to yourself, that's embarrassing (like when some other dude quotes himself constantly).

2 - you still don't make the difference between a video on YouTube posted by some random weirdo and science literature? You're about as clever as the fucking pricks who took part in the terror attacks in Paris 6 years ago: they couldn't read the Coran (too complicated) but they found some summaries on the internet.[/QUOTE]I was never able to read the Coran either. Just parts of the Quran.

When that is said, it is quite hilarious how you are trying to create a parallel between a religious book on one hand, and science on another. While you also don't know what YouTube is: a medium.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2602362]Israel is now reporting that four vaccine doses are needed![/QUOTE]Great business for Pfizer. Those who bought part of Pfizer on February 2020 will become rich.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2602543]I was never able to read the Coran either. Just parts of the Quran.[/QUOTE]You're probably right. I was too lazy to search for the proper spelling and I used the French one.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2602542]I actually think I had it this summer. Had some fever for a day and a half. And then a month and a half with some dry caught and tiredness and sweating after gym or sex. With possibly mild fever again a few hours. Though I didn't check. The dry caught was when I felt something down in my lungs. So typical covid symptoms. Weak ass virus if you ask me. I did test negative twice on rapid test, but I still think it was covid. Tanning and taking vitamin the was clearly the medicine that helped the most. As well as fish oil of course. Since there are essential oils in that which helps in the vitamin the uptake.[/QUOTE]For future use. The word is cough, not caught.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2602542]I actually think I had it this summer. Had some fever for a day and a half. And then a month and a half with some dry caught and tiredness and sweating after gym or sex. With possibly mild fever again a few hours. Though I didn't check. The dry caught was when I felt something down in my lungs. So typical covid symptoms. Weak ass virus if you ask me. I did test negative twice on rapid test, but I still think it was covid. Tanning and taking vitamin the was clearly the medicine that helped the most. As well as fish oil of course. Since there are essential oils in that which helps in the vitamin the uptake.[/QUOTE]When I arrive topless after highering my body temperature on top higher than 2500 m and around 10 degrees, I also cough my lungs and sometimes hard muscles with lactic acid, but nothing about covid. When I was sick from belly like I was never before, doctors were obsessed by covid, gave me 3 PCR tests in 5 weeks, but never found infection and I had to recover on my own, without any pills because they didn t know. I thought they thought I was imaginary sick when I worried about my Summer sport which did cure me from 8 August I started very late on this year, to yesterday climbing 27% in Zoncolan on Sutrio Giro 2021 side, after driving from Sharks cleaning autobahn to Munich at night. Today, from Ovaro, more difficult, the legend as say Italians, welcome in Hell. And if I survive once again, great tour is not finished and now ready to perform, waiting for 2 October. Despite almost weekly brothels, all PCR or antigen tests were always negative.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2602502]That's about as believable as all your ramblings about covid and Donald Trump. You really think that a girl is going to take the risk to damage her work tool (her body) just because you made a stupid joke about fucking a condom? Only a gonorrhea could keep her away from work for maybe a week, that's lots of money lost. And most of these girls want to have babies after.[/QUOTE]I am so sorry BB, my sincere apologies for not being able to make it easier for you to read and understand (and even worse, I numbered "when an FKK girl might be doing AO with a customer" incorrectly). Next time I will try to put the texts in bullet points with small sentences. Can anyone here please help me to write in such a way that the reading comprehension challenged never-Trumper seniors will read slowly (I don't know how to write such that it must be read slowly) and understand my poor English for what it is meant as a whole (not just small parts of full sentences)? Thank you mates.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2602542]I actually think I had it this summer. Had some fever for a day and a half. And then a month and a half with some dry caught and tiredness and sweating after gym or sex. With possibly mild fever again a few hours. Though I didn't check. The dry caught was when I felt something down in my lungs. So typical covid symptoms. Weak ass virus if you ask me. I did test negative twice on rapid test, but I still think it was covid. Tanning and taking vitamin the was clearly the medicine that helped the most. As well as fish oil of course. Since there are essential oils in that which helps in the vitamin the uptake.[/QUOTE]Why taking the test if you don't believe in the results? Sounds like a waste of time to me. You could have better used that time for taking ivermectin, so that next time you DFK a horse you can also help deworming it.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2602588]For future use. The word is cough, not caught.[/QUOTE]It was too mild to be labelled a cough. Like maybe once or twice a day.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2602705]Why taking the test if you don't believe in the results? Sounds like a waste of time to me. You could have better used that time for taking ivermectin, so that next time you DFK a horse you can also help deworming it.[/QUOTE]The tests were requirements in order to visit a club, and to get through the airport.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2602681]When I arrive topless after highering my body temperature on top higher than 2500 m and around 10 degrees, I also cough my lungs and sometimes hard muscles with lactic acid, but nothing about covid. When I was sick from belly like I was never before, doctors were obsessed by covid, gave me 3 PCR tests in 5 weeks, but never found infection and I had to recover on my own, without any pills because they didn t know. I thought they thought I was imaginary sick when I worried about my Summer sport which did cure me from 8 August I started very late on this year, to yesterday climbing 27% in Zoncolan on Sutrio Giro 2021 side, after driving from Sharks cleaning autobahn to Munich at night. Today, from Ovaro, more difficult, the legend as say Italians, welcome in Hell. And if I survive once again, great tour is not finished and now ready to perform, waiting for 2 October. Despite almost weekly brothels, all PCR or antigen tests were always negative.[/QUOTE]Maybe so, but I haven't had any dry or wet cough for 18 months at least prior to this. Probably due to covid lockdowns. So my immune system was also hibernating. Read something about this issue. You can all google it. It just takes some time to restart the engine.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2602796]Maybe so, but I haven't had any dry or wet cough for 18 months at least prior to this. Probably due to covid lockdowns. So my immune system was also hibernating. Read something about this issue. You can all google it. It just takes some time to restart the engine.[/QUOTE]Best medical is sport, at least exercise like walking, walking in stairs, swimming is great to recover, relax, when pains. All what make heart and lungs working is good for sex power. Today, I achieved my dream since 1 year, I climbed Zoncolan from Ovaro, the most difficult, exactly as I wanted, 1h30 of intense effort but not violent like I did before. When I saw steep, I thought I'm able to control, even between kilometers 2 and 5 when full charge with heart in red zone for nearly 30 mn with no recovery. On 3 last kilometers of the legend of hell, I even thought now it s easy, sprinting on 39/28 on top. Sunny great day, when I remember how I felt so down 3 months ago. I really made a great job on this Summer to rebuild my health and power. I remember on 2016, on my first visit at Wellcum, met blond Natali. Hu. On next day, climbed Zoncolan at noon under heat, lost all my body water, so violent climbing. When I arrived at Wellcum after, could hardly breathe, couldn't speak, flog in eyes. Natali came to me, but I was not able to answer her. I needed to drink a lot of juices and eat after to recover sugar in my blood. When I felt I recovered, she had finished her day when she left quite early. Had low level pretty Anna. It who proposed me anal, 3 fingers entered, but not me.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2602583]You're probably right. I was too lazy to search for the proper spelling and I used the French one.[/QUOTE]Actual truthful facts versus when he tried to play off the Norwegian spelling of "Zews."

[QUOTE=Pistons;2602542]... Weak ass virus if you ask me......[/QUOTE]People with comorbidities get very sick and some die. On the other hand there are people who develop no symptoms at all.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2602934]People with comorbidities get very sick and some die. On the other hand there are people who develop no symptoms at all.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, people without comorbidities can also get very sick!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2602860]Today, I achieved my dream since 1 year, I climbed Zoncolan from Ovaro, the most difficult, exactly as I wanted, 1h30 of intense effort.[/QUOTE]LOL 1 h30 for Zoncolan from Ovaro, that is some really weak sauce. Thank you Strava for confirming my estimate. This is too funny.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2602980]Unfortunately, people without comorbidities can also get very sick![/QUOTE]Jeez, I wonder if the big pussy ever leaves his house given that he might get hit by a bus.

It can't be easy to be so old and frail, no wonder he's so weird and grumpy.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2602588]For future use. The word is cough, not caught.[/QUOTE]Who cares, get a life.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2602996]LOL 1 h30 for Zoncolan from Ovaro, that is some really weak sauce. Thank you Strava for confirming my estimate. This is too funny.[/QUOTE]1 h24 full effort for average speed 7.5 always straight facing the steep, not making curves for Italians technique to cut the steep, when Sagan was not much faster than 6 on top of Loze and I m sure I will be faster than him in few week ends. Everybody who ever really climbed a bit steep, not Furkapass, knowing Zoncolan is more difficult than Loze and I wonder how many not Italian or not belonging to a Italian team professionals climbed 8 times from Ovaro and twice from Sutrio? I did for my great holidays since 2015. I even decided to sleep in Zoncolan in my beloved old lady, I wish we will reach 600 000 kms together despite fucking particles filter when original and improved engine and even turbo seem still healthy and what a easy balance compare to fucking quattro needing to fight to control in each fast speed curve. When sun woke me up at 7 am, I was so sad to have to leave paradise of Zoncolan and Gentile, having to drive more than 5 hours through wonderful Dolomiti to Prato 25 kms to Stelvio 2760 high waiting for me. When leaving Paris on Wednesday morning, pit stop at Sharks, driving to Munich at night, climbing Sutrio side on Thursday, Wellcum on Thursday night, climbing for eighth time the legend yesterday. I really love my Summers I make, not only stuck at Globe with bad casting. You should go just to give a look to understand a bit better than only drinking internet, when the only truth is in the steep, you are able or not? 10 times on top for my passion and pleasure for my holidays. Who can compete here? And I look forward again on next Summer if I'm still alive.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2602934]People with comorbidities get very sick and some die. On the other hand there are people who develop no symptoms at all.[/QUOTE]Some don't even feel they catch but some without known risk make bad reactions and can die. And medical only know so few.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2602996]LOL 1 h30 for Zoncolan from Ovaro, that is some really weak sauce. Thank you Strava for confirming my estimate. This is too funny.[/QUOTE]From [URL]https://www.climbbybike.com/climb/Monte-Zoncolan/36[/URL].

Monte Zoncolan. Ovaro 10.5 km long, 1210 meter climb, 11.5% average slope.

In the Review section, one guy said he did it in an hour, another guy in an hour and a half (but said he could probably do it again in 10-15 minutes less). Sirioja, who I believe has said he is 50+ years old, did it in an hour and a half. Sounds pretty impressive to me. What would your time be?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2602980]Unfortunately, people without comorbidities can also get very sick![/QUOTE]Well Pistons did not get very sick so he must have a strong system.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2603126]From [URL]https://www.climbbybike.com/climb/Monte-Zoncolan/36[/URL].

Monte Zoncolan. Ovaro 10.5 km long, 1210 meter climb, 11.5% average slope.

In the Review section, one guy said he did it in an hour, another guy in an hour and a half (but said he could probably do it again in 10-15 minutes less). Sirioja, who I believe has said he is 50+ years old, did it in an hour and a half. Sounds pretty impressive to me. What would your time be?[/QUOTE]For somebody claiming to be better than an active triple world champion, this is very, very, very weak. Even in his age group, he would not be in the first 60% of recorded Strava times. The estimated 150 W average power is very low, consistent with an untrained recreational cyclist. Just the fact that he is very light saves him from being bottom of the barrel. Guys who climb at 6 km / h shouldn't say they climb better than Peter Sagan.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2603126]From [URL]https://www.climbbybike.com/climb/Monte-Zoncolan/36[/URL].

Monte Zoncolan. Ovaro 10.5 km long, 1210 meter climb, 11.5% average slope.

In the Review section, one guy said he did it in an hour, another guy in an hour and a half (but said he could probably do it again in 10-15 minutes less). Sirioja, who I believe has said he is 50+ years old, did it in an hour and a half. Sounds pretty impressive to me. What would your time be?[/QUOTE]That makes an ascensional speed of around 800 m / hour. This is very decent but really far from a champion. Take part in any amateur event with this ascensional speed, you'll have to maintain it for at least 4 or 5 hours and you'll be far from the first places.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603037]1 h24 full effort for average speed 7.5 ... when Sagan was not much faster than 6 on top of Loze and I m sure I will be faster than him in few week ends. [/QUOTE]LOL, I see, you already went from 1 h30 to 1 h24 the second time you tell yourself your story. Tell it a few more times and you will soon have the KOM. BTW, top time in Strava is T. Pinault with under 41 minutes, top woman is van Vleuten with 48 minutes. You need more than double the time, almost double than the fastest woman on Strava, this should put it in perspective for people not familiar with cycling how pedestrian your effort is. If Sagan is at any point slower, it is only because he chooses to go slow on a climb.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603037] ... I wonder how many not Italian or not belonging to a Italian team professionals climbed 8 times from Ovaro and twice from Sutrio? [/QUOTE]There are 8000 people with entries for the Strava segment from all possible nationalities. Your time is bottom 40% for the age group. Let's not look at the overall statistics because it would be too embarrassing for you.

Bottom line is you have W / kg ratio of 2.7 - 2.8 based on your own numbers. That is a number for below average little trained amateur, you would be spit out the back on any climb in a cat 4 race. It just shows how delusional you are if you think a triple world champion has a worse W / kg than you. Assuming that you are human, the same physiology applies to you too. Endurance performance requires many years of constant dedication, your number are what I expected from somebody who does less than 1000 km per year.

I found it really funny that I said a long time ago that you probably have an FTP of 150 W just based on the amount of BS you were writing. Looking at Strava with your time and your weight, whaddaya know, you are around 150 W.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2603144]That makes an ascensional speed of around 800 m / hour. This is very decent but really far from a champion. Take part in any amateur event with this ascensional speed, you'll have to maintain it for at least 4 or 5 hours and you'll be far from the first places.[/QUOTE]You are too nice with him. Those are at best cat 4 numbers and I wouldn't trust anything he says anyway. I mean he writes by far the most BS, it's just incredible. It's just funny that he thought 1 h30 is a great time and he wanted to brag with that.

Here another example.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603066]Kate ... when I made her crying on our discovery at Sharks on April 2016 when she was in this business since 6 years, tears just with words and she never forgot words...[/QUOTE]Kate was a real pro in the business, in the good sense of the word. And the old, little, shriveled up Mr 150 W made her cry. Riiiiiight.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2602542]I actually think I had it this summer. Had some fever for a day and a half. And then a month and a half with some dry caught and tiredness and sweating after gym or sex. With possibly mild fever again a few hours. Though I didn't check. The dry caught was when I felt something down in my lungs. So typical covid symptoms. Weak ass virus if you ask me. I did test negative twice on rapid test, but I still think it was covid. Tanning and taking vitamin the was clearly the medicine that helped the most. As well as fish oil of course. Since there are essential oils in that which helps in the vitamin the uptake.[/QUOTE]Your immune system are strong enough for the current virus. But I would have a backup plan.

The vaxxed people are training the virus to fight against human immunity. Sooner or later, this trained virus maybe deathly to your and my immune system.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2603126]From [URL]https://www.climbbybike.com/climb/Monte-Zoncolan/36[/URL].

Monte Zoncolan. Ovaro 10.5 km long, 1210 meter climb, 11.5% average slope.

In the Review section, one guy said he did it in an hour, another guy in an hour and a half (but said he could probably do it again in 10-15 minutes less). Sirioja, who I believe has said he is 50+ years old, did it in an hour and a half. Sounds pretty impressive to me. What would your time be?[/QUOTE]I'm fully sure they would not be able to turn legs in the steep when Zoncolan is around 2 kms flat on kilometers 2 to 3 and 9 to 10, so 1200 meters climbing in only 8. 5 kms and 2 kms are more than 19% average. They are just able to read on internet but I will never see them on the steep. My average speed was 7.5 alone only with my balls when Sagan needed gruppetto to push him in less difficult top of Loze at less than 6 km / h and I m pretty sure I will be faster than him alone with my 2 balls, but if they want to climb Loze with me, to laugh a bit. But no followers on my climbing, just here.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603268] But no followers on my climbing, just here.[/QUOTE]Nobody wants to follow a loser. Your ego blinded you to the fact that your time is below average even for your age group, that there are plenty of women much, much faster than you. And you still claim you would be faster than a triple world champion. How embarrassing. The Germans have a word for this, Fremdschaemen.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603268] ... I m pretty sure I will be faster than him alone with my 2 balls...[/QUOTE]Next time you lie about your cycling, think less with your balls. But nobody will believe you, because your own words showed everybody your lies and delusions. You are below average even for the age group. Anybody who ever had a powermeter on his race bike is laughing his ass off about 150 W average power.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2603265]The vaxxed people are training the virus to fight against human immunity. Sooner or later, this trained virus maybe deathly to your and my immune system.[/QUOTE]Looks like covid damaged your brain, you're clearly hallucinating.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2603265]Your immune system are strong enough for the current virus. But I would have a backup plan.[/QUOTE]Such as hospitalization or death.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2603265]The vaxxed people are training the virus to fight against human immunity. Sooner or later, this trained virus maybe deathly to your and my immune system.[/QUOTE]That's exactly why Covid vaccines were developed and approved for use in humans, so that we can have an even more deadly virus soon! (I have no more faith in humanity. Asteroid, please, put us out of our misery!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2603175]You are too nice with him. Those are at best cat 4 numbers and I wouldn't trust anything he says anyway. I mean he writes by far the most BS, it's just incredible. It's just funny that he thought 1 h30 is a great time and he wanted to brag with that.

Here another example.

Kate was a real pro in the business, in the good sense of the word. And the old, little, shriveled up Mr 150 W made her cry. Riiiiiight.[/QUOTE]I wait you with granny on electric bicycle to push you to be faster than 4 km / h when steeper than 20% and have to face straight in the steep, not with Italian curves, when I reached 10 times, 3 times on this Summer, the top of the most difficult climbing in 3 tours, needing only my dick. Andiju Vuelta is also told very difficult. Yes Kate was a long time professional when I discovered her at Sharks for 200 with 2 rounds for 2 hours and already worked at Globe which dirty girls, but her level protected her to fall like many girls at Globe. Very close behind was the woman, why she interested me with her charm and elegance more than her performances. My words about her best present in life killed her make up at the end of first round. She wanted to make up again but I told her I loved her woman in love look and licked her tears. This long time professional did let me do, looking at me with tears going more. For sure, in private or for 6 business years, she never experienced. Not the only time she got wet eyes and not only her. I saw another Globe girl crying when we were in room. Never because I hurt them, one at LR was from kind of rage about what I told her. But most of guys will never be able to make this, same like climbing Zoncolan or Mortirolo or even Loze where Sagan tried not to be off time and needed gruppetto to help him. I much prefer this emotional game, much more interesting than having my ass licked, same than facing the steep is real climbing rather than curving from one side to the other. For my 10 climbing, when few times I gave up, sometimes raining and not enough grip in the very steep, I spent more than 20 days there since my first visit on August 2014 with BM 125 xd which couldn't go from some curves in second gear, but needed to put first gear when 230 power and I never saw anyone climbing in the steep to be able to climb in 1 hour from start in Ovaro, when I m one of the rare to climb straight when most curve on steeper than 20% and at least I m really on the field, not only drinking internet which is not the real truth and not only for this.

I sometimes wish this forum would get some sort of "thank you" currency. Then you could see how BS some particular folks are churning out. 10000s+ posts. And maybe 1000 'thank you's at best.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2603175]I mean he writes by far the most BS, it's just incredible. It's just funny that he thought 1 h30 is a great time and he wanted to brag with that.

Here another example.

Kate was a real pro in the business, in the good sense of the word. And the , little, shriveled up Mr 150 W made her cry. Riiiiiight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2603265]Your immune system are strong enough for the current virus. But I would have a backup plan.

The vaxxed people are training the virus to fight against human immunity. Sooner or later, this trained virus maybe deathly to your and my immune system.[/QUOTE]If we (unvaxxed) keep getting the new covid mutations, then our immune system stays on top of it and probably will handle the even newer versions quite well too.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603268]My average speed was 7.5 alone only with my balls when Sagan needed gruppetto to push him in less difficult top of Loze at less than 6 km / h and I m pretty sure I will be faster than him alone with my 2 balls, but if they want to climb Loze with me, to laugh a bit. But no followers on my climbing, just here.[/QUOTE]Even if at some point Sagan was going 6 km / h (and I would really want to see any evidence of that), even if that would be true, it still means absolutely nothing. The purpose of the grupetto is for cyclists going as slow as possible while staying in the time limit. If the grupetto is large enough they can even be over the time limit. There are videos of Adam Hansen drinking beer with fans on the Alpe d'Huez, there are videos of Sagan doing no hand wheelies up the Ventoux and Alpe d'Huez in the grupetto. Sure you are stronger than him, it's as believable as you being better driver than Lewis Hamilton.

But I enjoy that you, the 150 W guy, keep claiming that you are fitter and stronger (your own words) than a triple world champion. It just keeps showing to everybody that nothing you say can be believed since you refuse to accept reality.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603362]Andiju Vuelta is also told very difficult.[/QUOTE]There is no Andiju in the Vuelta, you just show again how you don't know anything about cycling. Let me educate you, there is Alto de l'Angliru with some pitches at 23%, used 8 times in the Vuelta since 1999, last time in 2020.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2603362]I never saw anyone climbing in the steep to be able to climb in 1 hour from start in Ovaro, when I m one of the rare to climb straight...[/QUOTE]Aha, you never saw anybody, now that is a stupid argument. Where you there 365 days per year? There are thousands of recorded Strava times. 150 W guy, you said yourself it took you 1 h 30. Cycloamateur time. I bet that from all the thousands of people who went faster than you, none of the amateurs claims he is faster than a triple world champion, it's only you who are so delusional.

Some changes in Hessen starting Thursday. Do not know if it directly affects clubs:

[URL]https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/corona-beschluesse-hessen-verabschiedet-sich-von-der-inzidenz-und-erlaubt-2g,corona-kabinett-beschluesse100.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2604330]Some changes in Hessen starting Thursday. Do not know if it directly affects clubs:

[URL]https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/corona-beschluesse-hessen-verabschiedet-sich-von-der-inzidenz-und-erlaubt-2g,corona-kabinett-beschluesse100.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2604330]Some changes in Hessen starting Thursday. Do not know if it directly affects clubs:

[URL]https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/corona-beschluesse-hessen-verabschiedet-sich-von-der-inzidenz-und-erlaubt-2g,corona-kabinett-beschluesse100.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Sounds logical. Measures and restrictions don't look at 7 day infection rate but they look at number of hospitalizations and occupied intensive care beds.

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-09-12/6-month-covid-outlook-2021[/URL]

"History shows the commonly held belief that viruses automatically get milder over time — to avoid completely wiping out their host population — is wrong, according to Lone Simonsen, an epidemiologist and professor of population health sciences at Roskilde University in Denmark. Although new mutations aren't always more severe than their predecessors, "pandemics can in fact get more deadly during the pandemic period, as the virus is adapting to its new host," she said. ".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2605680][URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-09-12/6-month-covid-outlook-2021[/URL]

"History shows the commonly held belief that viruses automatically get milder over time to avoid completely wiping out their host population is wrong, according to Lone Simonsen, an epidemiologist and professor of population health sciences at Roskilde University in Denmark. Although new mutations aren't always more severe than their predecessors, "pandemics can in fact get more deadly during the pandemic period, as the virus is adapting to its new host," she said..[/QUOTE]No shit. It has been silly listening to wannabe experts claiming the opposite is more or less a fact for a year and a half now. While their evidence, as usual is full of more holes than swizz cheese.

That is why the entire plandemic idea was a very bad one from the beginning. And the world needs to wake up. However, at the moment, vaccines are far worse than the virus. And there are ways to get around the vaccines. But there is no will to go there. So I just blame the people in charge without the will.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2605680][URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-09-12/6-month-covid-outlook-2021[/URL]

"History shows the commonly held belief that viruses automatically get milder over time to avoid completely wiping out their host population is wrong, according to Lone Simonsen, an epidemiologist and professor of population health sciences at Roskilde University in Denmark. Although new mutations aren't always more severe than their predecessors, "pandemics can in fact get more deadly during the pandemic period, as the virus is adapting to its new host," she said. ".[/QUOTE]I agree with the conclusion, Covid 19 will be with us for a very long time to come. The logic and reasoning is highly manipulated.

Normally, virus will get milder over time. That is a fact if we have done nothing.

Social distancing put an evolutionary force to make virus more infectious. Social distancing is the most likely cause of delta (more deathly). In reality, it is just more infectious.

A poorly designed vaccine that does not prevent infection put an evolutionary pressure for immune escape. The UK SAGE finally admitted it. This teach the virus how to fight against human immune system and may make the virus more deathly. At the same time, innate antibody of the vaccinated become worthless against covid.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2605811]I agree with the conclusion, Covid 19 will be with us for a very long time to come. The logic and reasoning is highly manipulated.

Normally, virus will get milder over time. That is a fact if we have done nothing.

Social distancing put an evolutionary force to make virus more infectious. Social distancing is the most likely cause of delta (more deathly). In reality, it is just more infectious.

A poorly designed vaccine that does not prevent infection put an evolutionary pressure for immune escape. The UK SAGE finally admitted it. This teach the virus how to fight against human immune system and may make the virus more deathly. At the same time, innate antibody of the vaccinated become worthless against covid.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-may-never-fully-disappear-heres-how-we-live-with-it-193657645.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2605981][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-may-never-fully-disappear-heres-how-we-live-with-it-193657645.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Collectively, we make a lot of mistake because of emotion, need of power and control.

The best way to move forward is to let it burn. High risk people with comorbidity can take the vax and booster. The rest can take IVM. Heck, even Nigella Sativa seem beneficial. Looking at it from a risk / benefit ratio, there is not much risk for people with comorbidity (old people). By saving the vax for those that will benefit the most, we reduce the risk of immune escape and antigenic imprinting.

Young people also get tics from the plandemic vaccine:

[URL]https://movementdisorders.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mds.28778[/URL]

Some smartasses in the media it trying to blame this on TikTok. We all know it is the quackcine.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2606437]Young people also get tics from the plandemic vaccine:

[URL]https://movementdisorders.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/mds.28778[/URL]

Some smartasses in the media it trying to blame this on TikTok. We all know it is the quackcine.[/QUOTE]You're really unable to read and understand scientific papers don't you?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2606508]You're really unable to read and understand scientific papers don't you?[/QUOTE]It's what I am best at!

I see through the lies they are trying to feed the sheeps like you with!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2606603]It's what I am best at![/QUOTE]I can't imagine the domains you're the worst at.

You skipped the reading lessons in elementary school?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2606603]It's what I am best at!

I see through the lies they are trying to feed the sheeps like you with![/QUOTE]But but aren't you supposed to obey the orders of your Masters? How could you sleep in the night? Didn't they tell you that the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that can't protect the protected?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2606689]But but aren't you supposed to obey the orders of your Masters? How could you sleep in the night? Didn't they tell you that the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that can't protect the protected?[/QUOTE]LOL. Thank god, some people are able to see through the absurdity.

I do have some ocean view real estate in Nevada I like to sell to the people that believe the vaccine will get life back to normal.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2606689]But but aren't you supposed to obey the orders of your Masters? How could you sleep in the night? Didn't they tell you that the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that can't protect the protected?[/QUOTE]You should probably take your vitamins now. Because if you don't, then my vitamins won't work.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2606689]But but aren't you supposed to obey the orders of your Masters? How could you sleep in the night? Didn't they tell you that the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that can't protect the protected?[/QUOTE]By the way, I'm quite unvaccinated from covid myself. Never slept better. How about you?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2607212]By the way, I'm quite unvaccinated from covid myself. Never slept better. How about you?[/QUOTE]In other words you're grounded. I hope you don't try to break the 10 days quarantine after a trip.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2607366]In other words you're grounded. I hope you don't try to break the 10 days quarantine after a trip.[/QUOTE]He is grounded because the vaccinated need to be protected. We are living in a looney tunes world.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2607366]In other words you're grounded. I hope you don't try to break the 10 days quarantine after a trip.[/QUOTE]I am aware of all the fascism going on.

Are you chipped (vaccinated) yet yourself?

[QUOTE=Ararat;2607366]In other words you're grounded. I hope you don't try to break the 10 days quarantine after a trip.[/QUOTE]He's so stupid that he can't tell that gino's pushing the same trash.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2606903]
Sorry, I was 3 days at Mainhattan last week.
1. Clients are kings.
2. No upselling.
3. Good casting.
4. Perhaps best value for money at the moment.[/QUOTE]This a mix of your opinion and some obvious lies. How pathetic to come on here and lie when most of us are quite experienced and know what the deal is.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2607615]This a mix of your opinion and some obvious lies. How pathetic to come on here and lie when most of us are quite experienced and know what the deal is.[/QUOTE]Obviously, YOU are a pathetic lier.

I was at Mainhattan 3 days week.

I have visited Mainhattan since 2013, and the situation was better than ever.

If you still believe that there are a lot of Asians, do your first visit ever at Mainhattan.

If you have no facts to present and NO experience at all from the Hessen area, then stay at home in front of the computer and pay for OnlyFans.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2607194]You should probably take your vitamins now. Because if you don't, then my vitamins won't work.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Yup, OK I will take my vitamins now so that your vitamins work. That's what my masters told me too.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2607602]He's so stupid that he can't tell that gino's pushing the same trash.[/QUOTE]Yeah brother, I am pushing the same trash that my masters told me to push: "the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that isn't protecting the protected unless the unprotected takes the protection."

[QUOTE=Turgid;2607610]Turks apparently see things differently but apparently mean no harm. Once I was eating in a Trukish restaurant in Frankfurt and a woman who was in a group entering the restaurant saw it fit to put her fingers in my plate, take out a shrimp and put it in her mouth. I erupted at her and she looked visibly taken aback. She behaved as if she did nothing wrong. I rolled this around in my mind for many years and wonder whether it is in the culture of that part of Turkey where she is from to taste a morsel from a customer to decide whether she should order it. I seriously thought of returning the favor after she ordered but had visions of being beaten and thrown out of the restaurant.[/QUOTE]You are just pathetic and better that you spend your time in FKK, real world is nothing for you. I worked 3 years in Istanbul and you have so many VIP restaurants there and I never saw a Turkish woman doing this.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2607626]Obviously, YOU are a pathetic lier.

I was at Mainhattan 3 days week.

I have visited Mainhattan since 2013, and the situation was better than ever.

If you still believe that there are a lot of Asians, do your first visit ever at Mainhattan.

If you have no facts to present and NO experience at all from the Hessen area, then stay at home in front of the computer and pay for OnlyFans.[/QUOTE]Some Asians seen at Mainhattan on last Saturday. Also few at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2607626]Obviously, YOU are a pathetic lier.

I was at Mainhattan 3 days week.

I have visited Mainhattan since 2013, and the situation was better than ever.

If you still believe that there are a lot of Asians, do your first visit ever at Mainhattan.

If you have no facts to present and NO experience at all from the Hessen area, then stay at home in front of the computer and pay for OnlyFans.[/QUOTE]Don't come on this forum to debate about non girls topics.

Go to the Rant forum to post Argumentative Comments towards other forum members.

Talk about girls, sex, experiences, and most of all provide names of girls.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2607667]You are just pathetic and better that you spend your time in FKK, real world is nothing for you. I worked 3 years in Istanbul and you have so many VIP restaurants there and I never saw a Turkish woman doing this.[/QUOTE]Do you know this is being powerful for them to finish very fast, maybe also for Asians? When I m superman for climbing without needing to train from end of October to June, but just putting my balls on bicycle and climbing highest ranked on Summer under heat. Yesterday, after driving from Sharks at night, I climbed Stelvio 2760 from Bormio, sunny but less heat than mid August, losing less water, muscles remaining more flexible, so I could climb easy. Wish for Ventoux from Bedoin through forest on next Saturday 2 October when won t go to Verbier for nothing. But with girls, I really won t be powerful in their way, too long to finish.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2607602]He's so stupid that he can't tell that gino's pushing the same trash.[/QUOTE]Nah, we're just playing a bit because your team seems to be chickening out of the discussion. Due to, as always, loosing in every single intellectual discussion!

And if you don't want to take it from me (due to ego reasons), listen til Martenson. Who now has even more evidence that my take on covid-19 from the very beginning has been 100% spot on!

[URL]https://youtu.be/JfoZHX-BJzQ[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2607667]You are just pathetic and better that you spend your time in FKK, real world is nothing for you. I worked 3 years in Istanbul and you have so many VIP restaurants there and I never saw a Turkish woman doing this.[/QUOTE]First time you have given good advice. When this pandemic is over I intend to spend a lot of time in FKKs to make up for my absence over such a long period of time.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2607828]When I m superman for climbing without needing to train from end of October to June, but just putting my balls on bicycle and climbing highest ranked on Summer under heat..[/QUOTE]150 W guy thinks he is superman. Human physiology does not apply to him. So delusional. What a sad joke.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2607842]Nah, we're just playing a bit because your team seems to be chickening out of the discussion. Due to, as always, loosing in every single intellectual discussion!.[/QUOTE]Before claiming you want to take part in an intellectual discussion, maybe learn first how to spell. Most people have that sorted out in primary school. You managed to spell fascism right after many attempts, now learn how to spell losing.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2607992]Before claiming you want to take part in an intellectual discussion, maybe learn first how to spell. Most people have that sorted out in primary school. You managed to spell fascism right after many attempts, now learn how to spell losing.[/QUOTE]Wow, what a comeback!

Small minds, little sheeps, drones, amoebas.

Do you smoke weed also? It is probably not good for you.

This is how the nanorobots grows out of the darpa funded aerogel. As somewhat also talked about on the 60 minutes episode earlier this year. But German scientists have looked more into it. And it is found in all the vaccine dosages. Sometimes even triggering prematurely, before entering the human body. And then it can be even more fatal.

Having some problems uploading the pictures, but it can be found here under: Undeclared components of.

COVID-19 vaccines.

[URL]https://www.pathologie-konferenz.de/[/URL]

These are intermediary nanorobots used for ultrasound in relation to what Mary Lou Jepsen talks about here:

[URL]https://youtu.be/iYOZ_NIYwmo[/URL]

Perhaps 5 G is needed nearby. Perhaps a cell phone is needed. Perhaps either of which is enough as well.

So, if you listen to Mary Lou Jepsen and her dousins of lectures on how this works, then you might get a glimpse of what is possible here: absolute total control.

- They can see what you can see.

- They can hear what you hear.

- They can feel what you feel.

And the bandwidth can go both way. So it doesn't only record signals. But it can send signals too.

Just a heads up here next time you see Jesus returning, or aliens attack earth. You might just think it's real. Like when your siblings turn into zombies. Hell, when you yourself turn into a zombie. But I guess most of the vaxxed already have been zombies. For a long time now.

Enjoy!

Did some more research now: hydrogel by the way. Not aerogel.

These 'nanorobots' seems to be artificial synapses attached to nanotubes. That is how it can create new pathways in the brain also. And it may just be triggered to start growing by the human battery capacity. (-90 mV).

They can also be used for this purpose in order to kill of disease. Or in order to kill other living tissue if need be:

[URL]https://www.researchgate.net/publication/311737613_Worm-Like_Superparamagnetic_Nanoparticle_Clusters_for_Enhanced_Adhesion_and_Magnetic_Resonance_Relaxivity[/URL]

The average idiot will probably then say this is a good thing. Because these nanorobots or particles if you will, can kill off disease. In theory yes. But it also means you can get hacked. And killed. Anyone can hack this system if knowledgeable enough. And the first versions might not be without problems too in several ways. Like how the immune system responds. Is part of the mRNA vaccine here in order to trick the immune system into not attacking the nanoparticles? What can be the downside to that? What about clotting beyond these hydrogel flakes? I have lots of questions still even if I know 10 times more than some retards here.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2607990]150 W guy thinks he is superman. Human physiology does not apply to him. So delusional. What a sad joke.[/QUOTE]I didn't jump on bicycle since end of October 2020 finishing Agnello 2744 French side in snow on 500 last meters on top, it was so beautiful exceptional, I won't forget, and only starting on 8 August 2021 after being badly sick from belly for nearly 6 weeks until beginning of July, car crashed on 14 July, but shoulder is not so useful, but with my balls, I will climb my 25 highest ranked, 3 times Zoncolan, on my great Summer. On Thursday, after driving at night from Darmstadt, I preferred to drive 300 kms more for Sharks than Globe because higher level, and real nightmare after Fluelepass. Ch with works, not sure I could pass with new Audi to repair and they even closed Livigno tunnel, so had to go more far to Umbrail, but I climbed Bormio Stelvio 2758 just easy, going downhill at night. Yesterday in Prato Stelvio 2758, topless full of sweat, I don t think I smelt so good but a speaking German woman came to touch if my body skin was not too cold when less than 10 degrees, her husband was laughing. Today, I want a better climbing time and will be plenty of Italians on sunny Saturday. Then, if I m still alive, I will drive whole night to rest. And I keep cherry on the cake, Loze, for soon, for sprinting on 7,5 last kilometers with 24% curves and the wall on top, without needing gruppetto to lead me, only me and my 2 balls. How many highest ranked in 3 tours and even small Swiss tour did You ever climb, when I climbed more than 200 since I decided I was superman on 2003 , being able without needing to train, only with my strength and passion, when only climbing around 500 kms for my wonderful holidays and even under covid on 2020 and this year. My playfield is only open from June to October, when I sometimes found snow in Mont Ventoux on end of October, also to come soon, but quite easy compare to Zoncolan, Mortirolo still to do, and Agnello Italian side. But when You want with granny, I will let You climb your 4 km / h with Sagan. I will also not see any US of course, when truth is only facing the steep and altitude. This sport makes feel young and give power to be very hard with girls. No Viagra needed for me, when get blood pressure from pump heart.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2608093]This is how the nanorobots grows out of the darpa funded aerogel. As somewhat also talked about on the 60 minutes episode earlier this year. But German scientists have looked more into it. And it is found in all the vaccine dosages. Sometimes even triggering prematurely, before entering the human body. And then it can be even more fatal.

Having some problems uploading the pictures, but it can be found here under: Undeclared components of.

COVID-19 vaccines.

[URL]https://www.pathologie-konferenz.de/[/URL]

These are intermediary nanorobots used for ultrasound in relation to what Mary Lou Jepsen talks about here:

[URL]https://youtu.be/iYOZ_NIYwmo[/URL]

Perhaps 5 G is needed nearby. Perhaps a cell phone is needed. Perhaps either of which is enough as well.

So, if you listen to Mary Lou Jepsen and her dousins of lectures on how this works, then you might get a glimpse of what is possible here: absolute total control.[/QUOTE]If I could keep on living free, even at more than 50 , I would not vaccinate, but I will have when I finish my Summer sport, about my job to get my EU sanitary pass. Nevertheless, when already had much too many deaths, if no vaccine since beginning of the year, it would have been a catastrophe under UK and delta with millions more deaths and hospitals couldn't follow. In some parts of France, like Martinique, Guadeloupe, Reunion and others in Pacific ocean, where locals live on another planet and are often fat very young, we faced a catastrophe when most were not vaccinated. I worry a bit about this vaccine in my blood, about my health, I heard girls saying they worry for pregnancy, nothing about paranoia, I don t live in Russia nor China, but I think big business Pfizer and less for others, saved millions of lives in the world, even we may have to live for a while with covid and variants, when not really stopping spreading when many vaccinated are positive, but at least, not many die.

Problem is you have zero basic knowledge in science. And terrible reading skills, probably the source of the problem.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2608193]Problem is you have zero basic knowledge in science. And terrible reading skills, probably the source of the problem.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong but his bigger problem is more deeply rooted. Inability to make human connection led to social neglect which forced him into a fantasyland where he is anything other than insignificant. This attention to his rants only further feeds the delusion that he is worth anyone's time whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2608112]Is part of the mRNA vaccine here in order to trick the immune system into not attacking the nanoparticles? What can be the downside to that? What about clotting beyond these hydrogel flakes? I have lots of questions still even if I know 10 times more than some retards.[/QUOTE]Boasting about knowing more than a retarded person is like boasting about being able to run faster than an amputee. It does not sound much of an achievement to be proud of.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2608358]Boasting about knowing more than a retarded person is like boasting about being able to run faster than an amputee. It does not sound much of an achievement to be proud of.[/QUOTE]Not even your analogies makes sense in a world where everyone should that running blades like the ones used by Oscar Pistorius gives significant advantages over non amputees!

What an amateur you are!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2608178]without needing gruppetto to lead me..[/QUOTE]Pathetic delusional 150 W guy. What a sad and pathetic life you have, trying to brag about cycling on a mongering forum. If only you wouldn't have said that you are stronger than a triple world champion, maybe I would have refrained to call on your bullshit. But you keep insisting on that idiocy, so I will keep calling you on your bullshit. It turns out that you are bottom 40% even in your age group, 150 W guy. You can try now lying about another climb, but everybody will know that you are lying. The problem with lying about obvious things is that nobody believes about all the other bullshit you post.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2608333]You're not wrong but his bigger problem is more deeply rooted. Inability to make human connection led to social neglect which forced him into a fantasyland where he is anything other than insignificant. This attention to his rants only further feeds the delusion that he is worth anyone's time whatsoever.[/QUOTE]You have a point here. Delusional people have to invent their own alternate world because in the real world they are losers and deep down they know it.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2608358]Boasting about knowing more than a retarded person is like boasting about being able to run faster than an amputee. It does not sound much of an achievement to be proud of.[/QUOTE]Nice analogy. The classic phrase is "the smartest kid in a Special Ed class."

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2608193]Problem is you have zero basic knowledge in science. And terrible reading skills, probably the source of the problem.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you version of "science" is more like a highly subjective form of religion to me.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2608358]Boasting about knowing more than a retarded person is like boasting about being able to run faster than an amputee. It does not sound much of an achievement to be proud of.[/QUOTE]And 10 times zero is still equal to zero. But he skipped the maths lessons too.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2608426]Not even your analogies makes sense in a world where everyone should that running blades like the ones used by Oscar Pistorius gives significant advantages over non amputees!

What an amateur you are![/QUOTE]Ok, I give you that but I'm glad you got the main point!

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2608592]And 10 times zero is still equal to zero. But he skipped the maths lessons too.[/QUOTE]LOL, you are the moron who confused millions with billions. You obviously skipped the math lessons as well.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2608502]You have a point here. Delusional people have to invent their own alternate world because in the real world they are losers and deep down they know it.[/QUOTE]You know you are replying to the master of projecting himself onto others now right?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2608333]You're not wrong but his bigger problem is more deeply rooted. Inability to make human connection led to social neglect which forced him into a fantasyland where he is anything other than insignificant. This attention to his rants only further feeds the delusion that he is worth anyone's time whatsoever.[/QUOTE]Have you considered joining an AA class? It seems like 80% of your posts here on the forum is about you projecting yourself onto others. Your first step is probably related to admitting these stories are about yourself.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2608592]And 10 times zero is still equal to zero. But he skipped the maths lessons too.[/QUOTE]And now you just admitted to all of us that you are in fact a complete zero. I will give you this tiny win. But by doing so, it elevates you to a 0.0000000000000000000000000000001.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2608440]Pathetic delusional 150 W guy. What a sad and pathetic life you have, trying to brag about cycling on a mongering forum. If only you wouldn't have said that you are stronger than a triple world champion, maybe I would have refrained to call on your bullshit. But you keep insisting on that idiocy, so I will keep calling you on your bullshit. It turns out that you are bottom 40% even in your age group, 150 W guy. You can try now lying about another climb, but everybody will know that you are lying. The problem with lying about obvious things is that nobody believes about all the other bullshit you post.[/QUOTE]But anyone here can try to come with me, just to see. 3 Stelvio on this weekend, around 5000 high. I saw girls climbing, one with beautiful smile. Stelvio is with Umbrail just on Swiss border, you should try legendary wonderful from Prato when I'm sure Sagan doesn't like at all 25 kms, at least after 10th kilometer and fully sure for 15th steep kilometer. I really wish for good weather on next week end to drive again from Paris for Mortirolo from Mazzo and then with my around 1000€ bicycle, without electric gears with engine hidden, with much more fresh blood than professionals until I get vaccinated, without gruppetto to drive me when Sagan would have been over time and off tour, only me and my balls not needing to train out of my Summer tour, handicaped by no high altitude free ride on 2 last Winters, but little superman strength will make me faster than him. What would be if I lived close to mountains climbing 2 hours weekly.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2608502]You have a point here. Delusional people have to invent their own alternate world because in the real world they are losers and deep down they know it.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure he's beating off to everyone's post trashing him. Most attention he ever gets from other humans.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2609004]Most attention he ever gets from other humans.[/QUOTE]You forgot the life spent in sauna clubs, stalking women.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2608914]But anyone here can try to come with me, just to see. ... Stelvio is with Umbrail just on Swiss border, you should try legendary wonderful from Prato when I'm sure Sagan doesn't like at all 25 kms, at least after 10th kilometer and fully sure for 15th steep kilometer..[/QUOTE]Nobody wants to see a 150 W guy, too embarrassing. Don't tell me about climbs, do you think you invented cycling? I don't post about my cycling in a mongering forum because nobody here cares about that. That doesn't mean I haven't done many of the major climbs. You seem to enjoy being called on your bullshit so I will keep doing that.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2609134]Nobody wants to see a 150 W guy, too embarrassing. Don't tell me about climbs, do you think you invented cycling? I don't post about my cycling in a mongering forum because nobody here cares about that. That doesn't mean I haven't done many of the major climbs. You seem to enjoy being called on your bullshit so I will keep doing that.[/QUOTE]Just try to follow with your expensive light carbon bicycle, I wish your electric gears can help you, versus my 1000 € French hand made bicycle, but turning legs ability and heart are more important. Let us know which highest ranked you climbed for real, not on internet, then I can ask you details, when around 200 times for me since I decided I'm superman, not even needing to train, 10 times and 3 on this Summer up the most difficult Zoncolan, not sure so many professionals did so often, when Davide Formolo who is much better climber than Sagan, never climbed before 2017. Wish for Mortirolo on next week end, maybe back to Prato Stelvio to improve again my time and I wait for sprint in Loze to be much faster than Sagan after less than 500 kms climbing, before 2 sides of Ventoux and maybe quite easy Alp Huez, easy after la Garde, if I find time, to be close to 1 hour. How many professionals climbed 25 most difficult highest ranked in 2 months? Even with all helps they get, when I have only my balls and fresh from oxygen blood. Come on the steep.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2609282]..when around 200 times for me since I decided I'm superman, not even needing to train..[/QUOTE]I used to pretend that I was driving a race car when sitting in a wooden crate, but I was 4 year old then.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2609282]...not sure so many professionals did so often...[/QUOTE]LOL, now you are better than most professionals. How clueless you can be. A pro does 30000 km per year. But sure, you can compare with them at 50+.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2609282]...before 2 sides of Ventoux and maybe quite easy Alp Huez...[/QUOTE]150 W guy keeps claiming he is stronger than a triple world champion. Please post videos of you doing no hand wheelies up the Ventoux and Alpe, Sagan must have suffered really hard when he was doing that for the fans. Don't start too late since you are so slow, you might get caught by the darkness.

I go cycling with my friends not with delusional people. You probably don't know what friends are, I mean who wants to spend time with crazies.

The delusions are strong with you. You remind me of one of the crazies in the trams in Zurich, speaking random stuff to strangers. Harmless, but still very annoying.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2609430]I used to pretend that I was driving a race car when sitting in a wooden crate, but I was 4 year old then.

LOL, now you are better than most professionals. How clueless you can be. A pro does 30000 km per year. But sure, you can compare with them at 50+.

150 W guy keeps claiming he is stronger than a triple world champion. Please post videos of you doing no hand wheelies up the Ventoux and Alpe, Sagan must have suffered really hard when he was doing that for the fans. Don't start too late since you are so slow, you might get caught by the darkness.

I go cycling with my friends not with delusional people. You probably don't know what friends are, I mean who wants to spend time with crazies.

The delusions are strong with you. You remind me of one of the crazies in the trams in Zurich, speaking random stuff to strangers. Harmless, but still very annoying.[/QUOTE]I worked hard but so well on this Summer, to climb 24 highest ranked I want because I won't have time for Ponte di Legno up to Gavia when I gave up twice in Stelvio because of rain, or not fast enough on last Friday, so repeated on Saturday. I never wrote I m faster than under dopping Pantani on Alp Huez, but without dopping, engine hidden in electric gears and gruppetto, I really think I will be faster than Sagan on top of Loze on the steep part when I was on same speed on discovery after Cormet Roselend on day. I doubt professionnals climbed so many highest ranked than me on this Summer when they find my climbings very difficult and I climb just for passion and pleasure, not paid. Other great job was to fuck expert and to get new Audi to be repaired, even versus Audi advice despite money to repair for them, when I enjoyed so much my runs at night with my old lady, 575 000 kms old Audi, after my climbings, even having to make a lot of mechanic and despite so disappointed by Sharks casting on last Sunday after driving at night when leaving Stelvio after climbing, at 7 pm. About both sides of Ventoux I for sure climbed more often than Sagan, more than 10 times both, I can climb blind from sweat in eyes, really no problem, when clown need gruppetto not to be put off race. Didn't you read on your internet? 9 were off race at Tignes on 4 July. Followers about brothels, but for sure not on the steep on the field, no ZH nor US there.

The loser trio: Nurse, Big and PiZ doesn't even think for themselves any longer. Everything they write goes in loop. Ad Nauseum like a simple algorithm bot (I'm avoiding calling it AI, because it isn't intelligent):

[URL]https://youtu.be/wZRkfBsTTt8[/URL]

That is what happens when you take the vaccine and the AI algorithms picks up that you are a mindless and willing sheep already. Total mind control.

I am calling the three of you losers because scientifically speaking you have have lost personal control of your brains.

Science.

Not an experiment but anecdote. Everyone that I talked to who got covid last years, then took the vax this year said that the second shot was way worst than the actually virus itself. LOL. I would guess they are between 30 to 50 years old.

My respond was why the hell did you took the vax when you was already infected. Years ago, I took the HVB vax, they gave me a test first, then they gave me the vax.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2609024]You forgot the life spent in sauna clubs, stalking women.[/QUOTE]LOL, stalking. That would involve actually feeling human emotions. Autism spectrum disorder remember?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2610078]LOL, stalking. That would involve actually feeling human emotions. Autism spectrum disorder remember?[/QUOTE]You know that, besides p6 forums, they are the only places where he gets attention from human beings (OK he has to overpay them).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2609699]I really think I will be faster than Sagan.[/QUOTE]I really thought I would be a fighter pilot, but then I was 5 years old. You will never be faster than Sagan any place where he was actually trying to go hard. How do you even know how fast he was?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2609699]professionnals ... they find my climbings very difficult ..[/QUOTE]Professionals find these climbs difficult when they go twice as fast as you. At your speed, for them it's a recovery ride.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2609989]Not an experiment but anecdote. Everyone that I talked to who got covid last years, then took the vax this year said that the second shot was way worst than the actually virus itself. LOL. I would guess they are between 30 to 50 years old.

My respond was why the hell did you took the vax when you was already infected. Years ago, I took the HVB vax, they gave me a test first, then they gave me the vax.[/QUOTE]If they got infected by Covid more than 6 months ago, then they can't get in Germany. So that is probably why they had to take the vaccine?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2610147]You know that, besides p6 forums, they are the only places where he gets attention from human beings (OK he has to overpay them).[/QUOTE]Oh please. We already concluded that your actions and / or thoughts are not human.

Do you realize that you are talking to yourself (and repeating the same thing), pretending you are many?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2610531]Do you realize that you are talking to yourself (and repeating the same thing), pretending you are many?[/QUOTE]Well, to be fair, there are many voices in his head.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2610556]Well, to be fair, there are many voices in his head.[/QUOTE]Given the mind control happening with you, I suppose the idea of voices in your head as opposed to computer generated commands is a utopian thought.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2610147]You know that, besides p6 forums, they are the only places where he gets attention from human beings (OK he has to overpay them).[/QUOTE]Is that why you are trolling on ISG? Funny that you're talking shit about yourself.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2610531]Do you realize that you are talking to yourself (and repeating the same thing), pretending you are many?[/QUOTE]Are you aware that you're answering his posts? So obviously you read and care enough about what he writes to respond to him time after time.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2609024]You forgot the life spent in sauna clubs, stalking women.[/QUOTE]Is that what you do in the FKK's, or maybe you have never even been to any FKK.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2610351]I really thought I would be a fighter pilot, but then I was 5 years old. You will never be faster than Sagan any place where he was actually trying to go hard. How do you even know how fast he was?

Professionals find these climbs difficult when they go twice as fast as you. At your speed, for them it's a recovery ride.[/QUOTE]When you look everything on internet, just look French television reports, they give speed from GPS, when he was 6 km / h on steepest parts and not leading, but led by gruppetto. I m pretty sure without gruppetto, after being already very late after la Madeleine I climbed around 15 times, 25 kms on Tarentaise side, when they climbed from Maurienne, he would have finished over time and being off race on top of Loze, like 9 were off on this 4 July at Tignes where Cavendish cried on top. But I so much prefer the field, facing the steep, even in 27% or when kilometers are more than 19% average steep, I don't make Italian curves but face straight the steep, full charge for heart and in legs, than drinking all internet. As long I m able, without training from November to May and with no ski in high altitude to prepare on 2 last Winter, big handicap, and I keep on improving since 2003, being much faster than then when I started in my 30's. But you can improve for resistance if you stay powerful with age. And no products, no hidden engine, no guys working to lead me. Only with my strength and real passion, not for money, when I spend money to buy gas to go. Great run last night when started from close to Dusseldorf airport through Chur, Julierpass, Saint Moritz, Berninapass also with works.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2610676] ... just look French television reports, they give speed from GPS, when he was 6 km / h on steepest part. [/QUOTE]LOL how clueless you can be. You think because they showed once 6 km / h on the TV he was going the entire climb at that speed? And again, one more time, he wasn't even trying to go hard, like all grupettos in every race, he was just doing the bare minimum to stay in the time cut. You have shown repeatedly that you are not capable of thinking logically. Your lack of logical thinking feeds your delusions, 150 W guy.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2610810]LOL how clueless you can be. You think because they showed once 6 km / h on the TV he was going the entire climb at that speed? And again, one more time, he wasn't even trying to go hard, like all grupettos in every race, he was just doing the bare minimum to stay in the time cut. You have shown repeatedly that you are not capable of thinking logically. Your lack of logical thinking feeds your delusions, 150 W guy.[/QUOTE]I always told on steepest part above Meribel, when kind of easy motorway from Moutiers to Meribel, and I wrote after climbing Cormet Roselent on day, discovering Loze like a real tourist topless and with swim boxer suit, when people told me: 7 last kilometers are difficult as hell, answering: I will see, I will manage, and I wrote I was proud to be as fast as him when he saw at least videos to prepare and I fully discovered. But after easy relaxing Mortirolo from Mazzo Valtellina on this Saturday 2 October, after amazing car run at night, climbing more than 1300 meters on 12.5 kms, following my passion as written at the bottom, rather than Verbier only with my balls and shadow, because never saw any follower on the steep, I felt so fine, flexible, so I decided to be fair with Sagan who with our bicycle, he could buy more than 10 of mine with his, when I don t need hidden engine, is about 20 kgs heavier than me, closer to 80 for real than 70 kgs and with muscles not adapted for steep climbing, so I will go to climb 2 sides of Ventoux, maybe also again Prato Stelvio for third time of Summer because I want to improve my time, if better weather than on this Sunday, to exhaust my body at the end of my ironman tour, before to finish to be faster than he was on top of Loze. I wish for this great program on next week end, wish for no wind in Ventoux and good weather on Stelvio 2760 high where flog on this Saturday and snow already arrived. For sure he was not twice faster than me and without gruppetto to help him, he was put off race, over time. I never wrote I was faster than him on Champs Elysees, but I aim to be faster than him on top of Loze when I will have climbed 5000 meters on 67 kms before on week end.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2610908]is about 20 kgs heavier than me...[/QUOTE]Be careful not to be pushed off the road by a gentle breeze. I guess when your FTP is only 150 W, there is nothing else to be proud of, just that you are tiny and anorexic.

My goodness. It is well known that when testing anti-viral, the sooner you get it the better. Let take a look at how the clinical trial for Molnupiravir was design for success. Whereas, Ivermectin is designed to fail.

Molnupiravir. [URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04575597[/URL].

Inclusion Criteria:

Has documentation of laboratory confirmed severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection with sample collection equal or less than 5 days prior to the day of randomization.

Ivermectin. Duke ACTIV-6. [URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04885530[/URL].

Confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection by any authorized or approved polymerase chain reaction (PCR) or antigen test collected within 10 days of screening.

It may take a day or a few day to randomized. I don't think that Ivermectin is so magical that it can beat the manipulation against it. Are you still stupid enough to trust scientists? I'm ashamed to be part of the so call scientific institution.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2610604]Is that what you do in the FKK's, or maybe you have never even been to any FKK.[/QUOTE]It's just what the loser gang do. They project their inner fears of what others might come to think about them, onto other poster. It's a shit show here on the forum, since it all comes out.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2611232]It may take a day or a few day to randomized. I don't think that Ivermectin is so magical that it can beat the manipulation against it. Are you still stupid enough to trust scientists? I'm ashamed to be part of the so call scientific institution.[/QUOTE]Even though I agree with you, I think we might have to start writing "scientists" instead of just scientists.

Just like Mursenary is a "doctor" and not a doctor.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2611232]My goodness. It is well known that when testing anti-viral, the sooner you get it the better. Let take a look at how the clinical trial for Molnupiravir was design for success. Whereas, Ivermectin is designed to fail.

Molnupiravir. [URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04575597[/URL].

Inclusion Criteria:

Has documentation of laboratory confirmed severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection with sample collection equal or less than 5 days prior to the day of randomization.

Ivermectin. Duke ACTIV-6. [URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04885530[/URL].

Confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection by any authorized or approved polymerase chain reaction (PCR) or antigen test collected within 10 days of screening.

It may take a day or a few day to randomized. I don't think that Ivermectin is so magical that it can beat the manipulation against it. Are you still stupid enough to trust scientists? I'm ashamed to be part of the so call scientific institution.[/QUOTE]Have you read what they call 'brief summary' Sherlock? The purpose of the ivermectin trial was to see if it can reduce the symptoms!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2611350]Even though I agree with you, I think we might have to start writing "scientists" instead of just scientists.

Just like Mursenary is a "doctor" and not a doctor.[/QUOTE]You do that. We'll make sure to continue calling you ugly as fuck rather than "ugly as fuck."

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2611459]Have you read what they call 'brief summary' Sherlock? The purpose of the ivermectin trial was to see if it can reduce the symptoms![/QUOTE]Why don't you ask Mr Murse? I want to see if he is honest enough to show you what is the most important part to look at when it come to clinical trial. Is it "brief summary"?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2611459]Have you read what they call 'brief summary' Sherlock? The purpose of the ivermectin trial was to see if it can reduce the symptoms![/QUOTE]He deflected, again. AIDS boy couldn't answer without incriminating himself.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2611563]Why don't you ask Mr Murse? I want to see if he is honest enough to show you what is the most important part to look at when it come to clinical trial. Is it "brief summary"?[/QUOTE]Just found 80 clinical trial on Ivermectin on this site:

[URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=Ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search[/URL]

9 have published results.

So long for the "Ivermectin is ignored" theory. And look at the sponsor of the Turkish study. It's the manufacturer of the drug! A conspiracy theorist like you should shout out about the evil big pharmas trying to sell their ivermectin?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2611800]He deflected, again. AIDS boy couldn't answer without incriminating himself.[/QUOTE]LOL. You are not a real doctor. I would imagine a doctor would have read more clinical trial than I have and know what to look for. I mean that is part of a doctor job. My job is to read up more of molecular type of paper. Reading clinical trial is more of a hobbit for me.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2611459]Have you read what they call 'brief summary' Sherlock? The purpose of the ivermectin trial was to see if it can reduce the symptoms![/QUOTE]Doctor look at the Primary Outcome and look at it in detail. The researcher have an obligation to do exactly as written. The study is intended to measure exactly as written and there is no open to interpretation of what was written.

The Primary Outcome for Molnupiravir measure hospitalized and / or die. Time Frame: Up to 29 days.

The Primary Outcome for Ivermectin measure hospitalized and / or die. Time Frame: Up to 14 days.

That 14 days give it less time for an event. Therefore, making it more difficult to reach statistical significant. Another sneaky way to make IVM fail by claim not statistically significant.

Stop trusting these scientists. They are trying to lie to you.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2611854]Just found 80 clinical trial on Ivermectin on this site:

[URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=Ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search[/URL]

9 have published results.

So long for the "Ivermectin is ignored" theory. And look at the sponsor of the Turkish study. It's the manufacturer of the drug! A conspiracy theorist like you should shout out about the evil big pharmas trying to sell their ivermectin?[/QUOTE]I have no theory. It is a fact of life that Merck / Pfizer will not invest in something that is cheap as candy.

There are ton of study that is completed that say IVM work. However, those are not gold standard study. There are only two gold standard study that I'm aware of, funded by your tax dollar. Oxford and Duke are both elite university. Both already setting ivermectin to fail.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2611901]LOL. You are not a real doctor. I would imagine a doctor would have read more clinical trial than I have and know what to look for. I mean that is part of a doctor job. My job is to read up more of molecular type of paper. Reading clinical trial is more of a hobbit for me.[/QUOTE]I too enjoy that movie with hobbits.

I can report about trick seventeen to avoid a corona infection. Let your Nosehair grow! Just try it, wear your nosehair open and you have a natural protection against what is flying around in the air. Could be nearly as effective as the vaccine.

If 100% of the people would be vaxxed, then you would find only vaxxed people in hospitals. No doubt, ask a doctor!

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2611901] Reading clinical trial is more of a [b]hobbit[/b] for me.[/QUOTE]We have a famous one in stock here if you want to have fun!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2611146]Be careful not to be pushed off the road by a gentle breeze. I guess when your FTP is only 150 W, there is nothing else to be proud of, just that you are tiny and anorexic.[/QUOTE]When I felt so fine, flexible, easy, sprinting on 22 on rear on top of legend Mazzo Mortirolo on this Saturday 2 October, for my best ever climbing, just you feel you are in a perfect day and wish for same on this Friday to make my best ever Prato 25 kms up to Stelvio for my third try of Summer tour and not far from 10th time in wonderful curves I cut on steepest to shorten distance, to improve my time. I only climb to improve my times. On Saturday, no other seen on Mazzo side, others met on top climbed from easier Apricca side. If I had sky or Italians or Spanish or US or Slovenians preparation, even I can claim to be fit and firm, but they would ask me to lose at least 5 kgs and give me products to eat and drink or put in my blood. I think it was for Giro 2018, but highest paid at this time but too heavy Sagan was not leader for Bora but Davide Formolo who may be about 173 and 56 kgs, taller and lighter than me for Bora leader and in any steep climbing, not only the most difficult Zoncolan and Mortirolo, but better paid Sagan is not able to follow really thin Davide Formolo who is a good racer and climber but not Pantani. Truth is on the field more than on internet and I will be again for my great pleasure on the steep on this week end for my third Prato Stelvio, 2 most difficult Ventoux and after I want my sprint full charge in Loze with 24% when I will drive at night after climbings to make my week end exceptional, starting from NL, driving through Germany and Austria to Dolomiti, having to make a lot of mechanic while driving for nearly 580 000 kms old beloved lady. My sport is good to fuck covid with lungs like a baby. To celebrate my retirement, even I will be in my second mid 60's, if I m still alive and as healthy, I want to make a 4/5 months Summer tour with free ride ski and climbings and wish to still improve from more kilometers climbing.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2612036]... sprinting on 22 on rear.[/QUOTE]6 km / h is not sprinting.[QUOTE=Sirioja;2612036] ... Davide Formolo who may be about 173 and 56 kgs ... [/QUOTE]Clueless as always. Davide Formolo is 181 and 62 kg according to his team. [URL]http://www.uaeteamemirates.com/rider/davide-formolo/[/URL].

60% are getting blood clots from the J&J vaccine!

Ref hidden camera interview with J&J workers by Project Veritas.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2611854]Just found 80 clinical trial on Ivermectin on this site:

[URL]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=Ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search[/URL]

9 have published results.

So long for the "Ivermectin is ignored" theory. And look at the sponsor of the Turkish study. It's the manufacturer of the drug! A conspiracy theorist like you should shout out about the evil big pharmas trying to sell their ivermectin?[/QUOTE]Just stop shitting in your pants now and listen to what the J&J employees are saying:

[URL]https://tennesseestar.com/2021/09/29/project-veritas-catches-johnson-johnson-employees-arguing-against-children-getting-vaccinated/[/URL]

Watch the whole video on the bottom. And also go back to 1st and 2nd part if you need to as well. In order to close at least some of the knowledge gaps in your vaccumized head.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2611912]I too enjoy that movie with hobbits.[/QUOTE]Can't tell people the truth, huh? Why don't you defend Duke "10 days of screening" Tell me how and why that is not setting up a cheap and potentially effective drug to fail. If you claim to have the background and knowledge of a doctor, go ahead and the defend the respectability of science.

Or is it a smoking gun, an highly "reputable" university intentionally setting up ivermectin to fail, in a gold standard trial. Not so golden anymore. Funded by tax dollar. Therefore, people should not trust science.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2611984]We have a famous one in stock here if you want to have fun![/QUOTE]Unlike some people, I never claim to be something that I'm not. And when the data / info is against my position, I will say it.

But I can tell you that Primary Outcome, we go back and forward with the FDA, have internal meeting after meeting, trying to figure out what the FDA think, medical community think and key opinion leader think. How we to execute the measurement of Primary Outcome, which department is involve, do we have enough staff. Not much effort or thought on how brief summary is written.

My my, the crazies sure are restless.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2612127]6 km / h is not sprinting.Clueless as always. Davide Formolo is 181 and 62 kg according to his team. [URL]http://www.uaeteamemirates.com/rider/davide-formolo/[/URL].[/QUOTE]If you really knew what is 22 on rear wheel, then you would know you can t be at 6 km / h more on 36 for me and 32 for Sagan. With 22, you are closer to 15 than 6, but have to use and turn legs to know. Not written on internet. Davide Formolo was on heels and on bicycle for such figures? When he was 1 meter from me many times in Stelvio. Much lighter and faster climber than Sagan. Newton talks. I will give all my rage to be also much faster, alone, without gruppetto to lead me, in Loze, after only around 500 kms climbing since end of last October. I could go fresh since Mortirolo on last Saturday, but I decided to play fair after climbing 5000 meters in Stelvio and Ventoux.

No need to say more.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2612330]No need to say more.[/QUOTE]I totally agree! Pens are the most valuable items to corrupt doctors in prescribing medicines. They usually don't make enough money to buy pens and their institutions usually refuse to provide such a valuable item to their members. In addition, a malpractice lawsuit is never as expensive as buying a pen. So it is a worthwhile risk!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2612320]Davide Formolo was on heels and on bicycle for such figures?.[/QUOTE]I understand that when you are as tiny as you, both 1m73 and 1m81 people look like giants to you so you can't make the distinction.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2612552]I understand that when you are as tiny as you, both 1m73 and 1m81 people look like giants to you so you can't make the distinction.[/QUOTE]He is much thinner than me. If I was under Sky or Italians, Spanish, Slovenians or US preparation, they would ask me to lose at least 5 kgs and gave me their products. Today, enjoyed topless under fresh sun with 4 degrees on top a great Prato Stelvio 2758 , cars supporting me, no other topless, even on Summer. Only around 300 kms from Zurich, but no follower once again. Tomorrow Ventoux before my final sprinting up to Loze.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2612330]No need to say more.[/QUOTE]Read this (well, we should still believe all the "scientists" who work for such a criminal organization):

[URL]https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history[/URL]

Wednesday, September 2, 2009.

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History.

Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing.

Who else is ready for weekly Covid vaccine "booster" shots?

55 year old man who thinks he is on the same level of a 30 year old professional cyclist.

A graduate-level educated HIV researcher living / working in America for decades who never learned how to write using basic English grammar.

A salesman who thinks he is a social communications God with heavy insight into the hidden secrets of society.

Only on ISG folks can you find this much "talent" in one place!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2612929]55 year old man who thinks he is on the same level of a 30 year old professional cyclist.

A graduate-level educated HIV researcher living / working in America for decades who never learned how to write using basic English grammar.

A salesman who thinks he is a social communications God with heavy insight into the hidden secrets of society.

Only on ISG folks can you find this much "talent" in one place![/QUOTE]I wrote I was proud to climb as fast as a 3 times Worldchampion in the steep in Loze, but after driving from NRW to Dolomiti on Thursday night, climbing 1800 meters on 25 kilometers up to Stelvio 2758 finishing topless in snow for 5 last kilometers with 4 degrees on top, then driving to Ventoux at night to climb the legendary forest, not the legendary the Cure song, today on 24 on rear in more than 8%, I exploded others, dancing swinging all along and tomorrow double Ventoux, climbing 3200 meters on 41 kms, before my final on Monday sprinting in Loze to be much faster than the one who was most paid on September 2020 , who takes products, who has probably kind of engine in electric gears, who needed gruppetto to lead him not to finish off race. Where were You on Saturday 2 October when I climbed my best Mortirolo, making my Summer great and after Monday I will look forward free riding for my Christmas. Wish for snow like already in Stelvio. I made a great doctor for my health on this Summer, from so sick feeling so strong today, when I put on 24, others were like stopped, when I remember blood inside my hands pressing so much and my eyes crying from nerves on my first Ventoux on 2003 , being 50% faster today, like good French wine. And I m sure I can go even faster. For next year.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2612867]Read this (well, we should still believe all the "scientists" who work for such a criminal organization):

[URL]https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history[/URL]

Wednesday, September 2, 2009.

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History.

Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing.[/QUOTE]Probably the same mental gymnastics that people who willingly voted for Donald Trump used to put him in charge of the United States of America, despite his numerous and well documented history of numerous fraudulent business practices and personal transgressions. Know anyone like that?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613007]I wrote I was proud to climb as fast as a 3 times Worldchampion in the steep in Loze, but after driving from NRW to Dolomiti on Thursday night, climbing 1800 meters on 25 kilometers up to Stelvio 2758 finishing topless in snow for 5 last kilometers with 4 degrees on top, then driving to Ventoux at night to climb the legendary forest, not the legendary the Cure song, today on 24 on rear in more than 8%, I exploded others, dancing swinging all along and tomorrow double Ventoux, climbing 3200 meters on 41 kms, before my final on Monday sprinting in Loze to be much faster than the one who was most paid on September 2020 , who takes products, who has probably kind of engine in electric gears, who needed gruppetto to lead him not to finish off race. Where were You on Saturday 2 October when I climbed my best Mortirolo, making my Summer great and after Monday I will look forward free riding for my Christmas. Wish for snow like already in Stelvio. I made a great doctor for my health on this Summer, from so sick feeling so strong today, when I put on 24, others were like stopped, when I remember blood inside my hands pressing so much and my eyes crying from nerves on my first Ventoux on 2003 , being 50% faster today, like good French wine. And I m sure I can go even faster. For next year.[/QUOTE]You were too scared to show me the money.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613025]Probably the same mental gymnastics that people who willingly voted for Donald Trump used to put him in charge of the United States of America, despite his numerous and well documented history of numerous fraudulent business practices and personal transgressions. Know anyone like that?[/QUOTE]Voting for the president on Election Day is a binary.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613063]You were too scared to show me the money.[/QUOTE]It's just so much easier to invent bullshit on the internet. Small children grow out of the phase when they live in a pretend world, but 150 W delusional Pierrot has the brain of a 4 year old.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613007]I wrote I was proud to climb as fast as a 3 times Worldchampion in the steep in Loze.[/QUOTE]You wrote that you are in general more fit than a triple world champion, not just that. So I decided to push back on your bullshit. Keep writing this stuff, keep showing to everybody how you live in a pretend world, 150 W delusional Pierrot. Proud of being tiny, with average power of 150 W. Write that stuff in a cycling forum if you dare and watch how every single person there will laugh in your face. No wonder you don't have any friends.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613025]Probably the same mental gymnastics that people who willingly voted for Donald Trump used to put him in charge of the United States of America, despite his numerous and well documented history of numerous fraudulent business practices and personal transgressions. Know anyone like that?[/QUOTE]Here's the new low -- bring some unrelated political stories to defend the already proven biggest criminal "medicinal" company and and it's crooked "scientists". Is this some "experts" call "whataboutism"?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613063]You were too scared to show me the money.[/QUOTE]I m not a working girl to do for money. On this Summer, climbing on 3 times most difficult Zoncolan, 4 times legend of Italy Stelvio for more for 6500 meters high there, much more than 30000 meters high for this Summer for my passion, pleasure and health. I m my best doctor, but nobody following me on 2 October, like always. Easier to be a follower in brothels than on the steep.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613063]You were too scared to show me the money.[/QUOTE]I'm not a working girl to do for money. On this Summer, climbing on 3 times most difficult Zoncolan, 4 times legend of Italy Stelvio for more than 6500 meters high there, much more than 30000 meters high for this Summer for my passion, pleasure and health. I m my best doctor, but nobody following me on 2 October, like always. Much easier to be a follower in brothels than on the steep.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2613080]Voting for the president on Election Day is a binary.[/QUOTE]Only if you choose to frame it that way and see each election as existing in a vacuum. Putting partisan politics aside and playing the long game might be a less detrimental approach.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2613233]Here's the new low -- bring some unrelated political stories to defend the already proven biggest criminal "medicinal" company and and it's crooked "scientists". Is this some "experts" call "whataboutism"?[/QUOTE]Yes yes, you're implicating that it is much more acceptable to habitually speak in political undertones rather than being direct and forthright. Understood!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2613138]It's just so much easier to invent bullshit on the internet. Small children grow out of the phase when they live in a pretend world, but 150 delusional Pierrot has the brain of a 4 year old.[/QUOTE]Yep. "Put up or shut up" as we say. He was too scared to put up yet too emotionally fragile to shut up. Instead asks "where were you?" as if other people also hear the imaginary conversations he has in his head.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2613142]You wrote that you are in general more fit than a triple world champion, not just that. So I decided to push back on your bullshit. Keep writing this stuff, keep showing to everybody how you live in a pretend world, 150 W delusional Pierrot. Proud of being tiny, with average power of 150 W. Write that stuff in a cycling forum if you dare and watch how every single person there will laugh in your face. No wonder you don't have any friends.[/QUOTE]With your so many friends in your imagination, when I see guys in brothels, I don t need such friends, you are lucky to be at around 300 kms from Stelvio and Mortirolo, but I'm pretty sure you and your imaginary friends will never be able to climb there, when I'm much more far and this is my enjoyable garden. For sure I'm much lighter than too heavy to climb Sagan who would never be able to dance on bicycle for more than 1 hour without stopping, and tomorrow will be in Loze steep if no snow to climb, when Globe Romanian GND are easier for you.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613378]Yep. "Put up or shut up" as we say. He was too scared to put up yet too emotionally fragile to shut up. Instead asks "where were you?" as if other people also hear the imaginary conversations he has in his head.[/QUOTE]I meant I knew you would never be on the steep when you never climbed, so I preferred to keep on my tour with my best ever Mortirolo, more than 1300 meters climbing for 12 kms. No US nor ZH on the steep, only in brothels.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613385]I meant I knew you would never be on the steep when you never climbed, so I preferred to keep on my tour with my best ever Mortirolo, more than 1300 meters climbing for 12 kms. No US nor ZH on the steep, only in brothels.[/QUOTE]If you knew, it would have been guaranteed money for you. But you are just a scared little mouse with no life.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613376]Yes yes, you're implicating that it is much more acceptable to habitually speak in political undertones rather than being direct and forthright. Understood![/QUOTE]LOL. Do you think this information is real or fake?

Wednesday, September 2, 2009. Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History. Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing. ([URL]https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history[/URL]).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613385]I meant I knew you would never be on the steep when you never climbed, so I preferred to keep on my tour with my best ever Mortirolo, more than 1300 meters climbing for 12 kms. No US nor ZH on the steep, only in brothels.[/QUOTE]Another day, another wrinkle old man.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2613476]If you knew, it would have been guaranteed money for you.[/QUOTE]It would have been an opportunity to buy a decent road bike, not an old beaten Taiwanese made entry level mountain bike with slick tires.

But the problem is, road bikes come with road gears and big wheels, it's harder to ride at 6 km / h with them.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2613510]LOL. Do you think this information is real or fake?

Wednesday, September 2, 2009. Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History. Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing. ([URL]https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history[/URL]).[/QUOTE]It's quite real. Marketing fraud.

Criticism regarding selectively choosing when to apply judgement of worthiness regarding trust to suit one's agenda and beliefs still applies.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2613476]If you knew, it would have been guaranteed money for you. But you are just a scared little mouse with no life.[/QUOTE]Bingo. Mental illness is a beast to be reckon. Ignoring it feeds the beast.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613568]Another day, another wrinkle old man.[/QUOTE]Real fact is I was on the steep in Mortirolo on Saturday 2 October and quite easy for first time, when I often suffered there, more difficult than Verbier. I climbed more than 30000 meters high on this Summer. And You? Today, not my final because will have to return to Ventoux as soon car is repaired, will be great test to push engine and test grip to limit, but in Loze and making mistake not to climb topless as usual to keep my body temperature not highering, my science not to waste energy, when was only 11 degrees and windy at the bottom, but sun and no wind on top 2304 high, but even I could be faster topless, but most often faster than 8 km / h on steepest which are not long like 3 kilometers steeper than 19% average between 3 and 6 in Ovaro and Zoncolan, even having to slalom among gravels on track, recovering putting 18 and even 16 on rear to be faster than 30 km / h on quite flat and really no problem for wall on top. I don t remember if Sagan climbed Zoncolan when Formolo was Bora leader, but from how I saw him so difficult in easier Loze, I would like to see him between kilometers 3 and 6 in Zoncolan. Others today were with electric bicycles or quad, you should try. I m sure I can be faster, wish to see on next Summer. Wish for last for this wonderful Summer in Ventoux again, with no cold flog on top, not what I call beautiful weather.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2612867]Read this (well, we should still believe all the "scientists" who work for such a criminal organization):

[URL]https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history[/URL]

Wednesday, September 2, 2009.

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History.

Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing.[/QUOTE]It's a tip of the iceberg. They do that every single time they want to sell something. In other fields of business it would be labelled corruption. But here it is intrinsic for the industry. I call it institutional corruption.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613707]Real fact is I was on the steep in Mortirolo on Saturday 2 October and quite easy for first time, when I often suffered there, more difficult than Verbier. I climbed more than 30000 meters high on this Summer. And You? Today, not my final because will have to return to Ventoux as soon car is repaired, will be great test to push engine and test grip to limit, but in Loze and making mistake not to climb topless as usual to keep my body temperature not highering, my science not to waste energy, when was only 11 degrees and windy at the bottom, but sun and no wind on top 2304 high, but even I could be faster topless, but most often faster than 8 km / h on steepest which are not long like 3 kilometers steeper than 19% average between 3 and 6 in Ovaro and Zoncolan, even having to slalom among gravels on track, recovering putting 18 and even 16 on rear to be faster than 30 km / h on quite flat and really no problem for wall on top. I don t remember if Sagan climbed Zoncolan when Formolo was Bora leader, but from how I saw him so difficult in easier Loze, I would like to see him between kilometers 3 and 6 in Zoncolan. Others today were with electric bicycles or quad, you should try. I m sure I can be faster, wish to see on next Summer. Wish for last for this wonderful Summer in Ventoux again, with no cold flog on top, not what I call beautiful weather.[/QUOTE]Blah blah Dementia blah blah ego / identity issues blah blah wrinkly balls blah blah.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613794]Blah blah Dementia blah blah ego / identity issues blah blah wrinkly balls blah blah.[/QUOTE]Well, there are links between dementia and delusions. Primarily dementia with Lewy bodies.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2613646]It would have been an opportunity to buy a decent road bike, not an old beaten Taiwanese made entry level mountain bike with slick tires.

But the problem is, road bikes come with road gears and big wheels, it's harder to ride at 6 km / h with them.[/QUOTE]I recommend him to get a bike with 650 wheels, those are made for people 1m50 tall. There are child sizes too.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613794]Blah blah Dementia blah blah ego / identity issues blah blah wrinkly balls blah blah.[/QUOTE]But real on the field, with my balls, not only on internet, and after this, even without Viagra, girls feel me hard inside of them. After bad start since end of May to end of July, but my beloved French hands made, around 1000€ bicycle cured me and I feel so powerful now. When I started on 2003 in my 30's and skiing more than now but I just wished to be able to reach highest ranked tops, now I only think about climbing technique and time, why I will drive a lot to return to Ventoux, even I climbed 2 sides, but I want to climb both on same day, but I prefer no cold fog. In Mortirolo or in Ventoux forest, I preferred to climb steepest inside curves to shorten distance. Yesterday, alone in Loze, I felt so confident after putting heart in red zone on first steeper than 20% after 1 km above Meribel, then, even I understood I made big mistake not to go topless like always, but I knew I could accelerate, sometimes putting on 16 on rear faster than 30 and I know I can be faster topless. Good aim to reach on next Summer. With car repaired versus insurance expert, I made my Summer great and I m happy about. After my final in Ventoux, with Solden Rautenbach. At ski Worldcup starting on end of October, will look forward best present for Christmas, free riding, feeling to fly in fresh snow. Already snow in Stelvio, wish for Christmas. Positive your life following your passion as written in Mazzo at the bottom of Mortirolo.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613864]But real on the field, with my balls..[/QUOTE]Yep, dementia kicks in more and more.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2613831]I recommend him to get a bike with 650 wheels, those are made for people 1m50 tall. There are child sizes too.[/QUOTE]With my beloved prepared by myself bicycle and my balls, I m faster than so many in steep, going straight facing the steepest. Who other here ever climbed Zoncolan I climbed nearly 10 times, or Mortirolo I climbed also around 10 times, or even easier Loze where I played yesterday for second time. Much more than 30000 meters my legs were able to climb in last 2 months, when no ski on 2 last Winter and last climbing on end of October 2020 , bicycle sleeping since then. From what I saw on tour 2020 , I really would like to see Sagan even with his expensive with engine in electric gears bicycle on Zoncolan in kilometers 3 to 6 with more than 19% average. Good point is with 1 year older, with same bicycle, I know I can be faster on next Summer, maybe also 28% Mione Gentile if they clean the road, when Loze was not cleaned for me but gravels yesterday. Specialized medical in sport know when You are healthy and fit, You get more resistance to intense effort when getting older, not stamina but resistance, different, and I just laugh about efforts electro cardio, nothing compare to my playfield or when I cross Girose 3500 high glacier pushing for more than 2 hours to go and back, when no more lift, so not many cross now, but more enjoyable for me, breathing deeply fresh air.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2613476]If you knew, it would have been guaranteed money for you. But you are just a scared little mouse with no life.[/QUOTE]So many beautiful mountains and real sport for me for my great Summer and not finished yet when I want to return to Ventoux. Only Globe for You? For sure I will never see You nor your friends here or in your imagination in my steep, when You are lucky to be not far from Stelvio, Mortirolo, Gran San Bernardino, Gavia, but too steep. I love the steepest, dealing with Newton.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613864]But real on the field, with my balls, not only on internet, and after this, even without Viagra, girls feel me hard inside of them. After bad start since end of May to end of July, but my beloved French hands made, around 1000 bicycle cured me and I feel so powerful now. When I started on 2003 in my 30's and skiing more than now but I just wished to be able to reach highest ranked tops, now I only think about climbing technique and time, why I will drive a lot to return to Ventoux, even I climbed 2 sides, but I want to climb both on same day, but I prefer no cold fog. In Mortirolo or in Ventoux forest, I preferred to climb steepest inside curves to shorten distance. Yesterday, alone in Loze, I felt so confident after putting heart in red zone on first steeper than 20% after 1 km above Meribel, then, even I understood I made big mistake not to go topless like always, but I knew I could accelerate, sometimes putting on 16 on rear faster than 30 and I know I can be faster topless. Good aim to reach on next Summer. With car repaired versus insurance expert, I made my Summer great and I m happy about. After my final in Ventoux, with Solden Rautenbach. At ski Worldcup starting on end of October, will look forward best present for Christmas, free riding, feeling to fly in fresh snow. Already snow in Stelvio, wish for Christmas. Positive your life following your passion as written in Mazzo at the bottom of Mortirolo.[/QUOTE]Psycho babble, ego issues, psycho babble, fake confidence, psycho babbly, no one cares, psycho psycho psycho.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2613649]It's quite real. Marketing fraud.

Criticism regarding selectively choosing when to apply judgement of worthiness regarding trust to suit one's agenda and beliefs still applies.[/QUOTE]Good progress, we are starting to agree on reality.

Now, what do we call a "scientist" who makes living (and more money that s / he really needs to live comfortably) by knowingly working for a corporation that's fined for the biggest marketing fraud in the history of the world, and obviously knowing that his / her "scientific" work might again be sold to innocent consumers in fraudulent, inappropriate and possibly harmful way?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613977]With my beloved...[/QUOTE]The intervals when he starts repeating himself are shorter and shorter. Stuck in a 2 posts loop. Dementia with mid fifties.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613977]I m faster than so many in steep...[/QUOTE]As proven before, even based on your own inflated claims, you are bottom 40%. There are plenty of 65-70 guys that I see cycling in the ZRH area that are faster than you. I am sorry about your dementia already at this age.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613977]With my beloved prepared by myself bicycle...[/QUOTE]Congratulations, you manage to pump your tires all by yourself, although you definitely use too high pressure. Now buy a separate frame and install a groupset from scratch. Oh wait, you need a separate pair of hands for cabling and you don't have any friends. Sorry.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2614082]As proven before, even based on your own inflated claims, you are bottom 40%. There are plenty of 65-70 guys that I see cycling in the ZRH area that are faster than you. I am sorry about your dementia already at this age.[/QUOTE]I never heard about Zoncolan or Mortirolo or Stelvio or even our easier Loze level in ZH. Where? But You don t even know what they are, where professionnals with their high tech bicycle, all products they take, suffer, when I m fully sure I was easier than Sagan and most of gruppetto in Loze I didn't find so difficult after putting heart in red zone 1 km above Meribel, then really no problem, even not topless, not usual for me. I m sure You are not even able to understand technique information's I wrote about climbing technique because You just never did such real sport, when I m fully sure, with my not so expensive bicycle but fast enough and Formolo would be faster on it than Sagan with engine in electric gears, and well prepared with all my knowledge about climbing, but learned on the steep, not only on internet, and my confidence now, when I improved so much since my start on 2003 and again on this really interesting Summer, starting from sick and crashed, making my heart, legs, resistance to daily intense and violent effort in steeper than 20%, not in ZH hills for sheeps at 6%. I love this game and I m fully sure I will keep on improving on same bicycle, when I don t need hidden engine nor gruppetto to help me when I have my balls and passion. I proposed Gran San Bernardino or Verbier which are much easier, but no follower for there. For sure flat ZH with wind in back is much easier. But I prefer to climb the steepest than downhill at 70 km / h without helmet. I don't need helmet on steep.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2614054]Good progress, we are starting to agree on reality.

Now, what do we call a "scientist" who makes living (and more money that s / he really needs to live comfortably) by knowingly working for a corporation that's fined for the biggest marketing fraud in the history of the world, and obviously knowing that his / her "scientific" work might again be sold to innocent consumers in fraudulent, inappropriate and possibly harmful way?[/QUOTE]A scientist.

In other news, Astra Zeneca, Johnson and Johnson, and Moderna / BionTech made covid vaccines.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613864]But real on the field, with my balls, not only on internet, and after this, even without Viagra, girls feel me hard inside of them. After bad start since end of May to end of July, but my beloved French hands made, around 1000 bicycle cured me and I feel so powerful now. When I started on 2003 in my 30's and skiing more than now but I just wished to be able to reach highest ranked tops, now I only think about climbing technique and time, why I will drive a lot to return to Ventoux, even I climbed 2 sides, but I want to climb both on same day, but I prefer no cold fog. In Mortirolo or in Ventoux forest, I preferred to climb steepest inside curves to shorten distance. Yesterday, alone in Loze, I felt so confident after putting heart in red zone on first steeper than 20% after 1 km above Meribel, then, even I understood I made big mistake not to go topless like always, but I knew I could accelerate, sometimes putting on 16 on rear faster than 30 and I know I can be faster topless. Good aim to reach on next Summer. With car repaired versus insurance expert, I made my Summer great and I m happy about. After my final in Ventoux, with Solden Rautenbach. At ski Worldcup starting on end of October, will look forward best present for Christmas, free riding, feeling to fly in fresh snow. Already snow in Stelvio, wish for Christmas. Positive your life following your passion as written in Mazzo at the bottom of Mortirolo.[/QUOTE]What happened to your car?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614169]Im fully sure..[/QUOTE]Translation from Siriojaspeak: I just make something up in an imaginary world.

S is still stuck in the 2 post loop. Anybody knows how to repair a broken record?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614169]downhill at 70 km / h without helmet...[/QUOTE]Well, I agree you don't need a helmet, I mean you don't have any brain worth while protecting.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2614137]The posts are still there. They became more and more nonsensical as time passed by.[/QUOTE]It seems exponentially worse since COVID. I sense a lot of the writings are permitted on the forum because there is some spite towards the people criticizing. Perhaps there's an "I'm the boss, not you guys" mentality because so many people are calling directly and indirectly for his moderation.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2614233]Translation from Siriojaspeak: I just make something up in an imaginary world.

S is still stuck in the 2 post loop. Anybody knows how to repair a broken record?[/QUOTE]When you compare ZH area with my highest ranked with most above 2000 meters high up to higher than 2700, when I climbed more than 150 up to higher than 2000 , just show you never experienced climbing in high altitude, just ask your doctor about altitude effects on body, when I go for the steepest and highest which is the most difficult in this sport and what I like but not Sagan, only marathon can compete for difficult sport, when Ethiopians and Kenyans who are thinner than me are supermen. Newton and knowledge of the field talk more than internet for these 2 sports. High pressure in tires make bicycle more reactive and you really feel it when you are really on bicycle, but more difficult downhill.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2614195]What happened to your car?[/QUOTE]Audi made big reputation with mechanic quattro, but now electronics lead quattro and not able to follow when you push to grip limit and low grip. After changing engine under guaranty, I wish we will now find how to get much better balance when quite dangerous. Really not safe balance but have to fight with rear of the car when mainly front driving for grip.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614177]A scientist.[/QUOTE]Again, I'm impressed that we are agreeing more, it's further progress. Only that you forgot to add some qualifiers:

An evil selfish scientist.

Corrected. You're welcome.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614291]When you compare ZH area..[/QUOTE]Sirioja logic, if I live in Zurich it means I was never in the mountains. Do you have any idea in how many places in the Alps I get in two hours? Man, you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that is for sure. As sharp as a bowling ball. One more time, I don't write about my cycling in a mongering forum. Go write about your so called cycling in a cycling forum, and everybody there will laugh at you.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614291] ...High pressure in tires make bicycle more reactive ...[/QUOTE]I recommend that you listen to the podcast of Josh Portner when he is talking to Tom Anhalt or the one about hysteresis. It's way above your IQ, but give it a try.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2614329]Again, I'm impressed that we are agreeing more, it's further progress. Only that you forgot to add some qualifiers:

An evil selfish scientist.

Corrected. You're welcome.[/QUOTE]You're using that logic to serve your own beliefs. Using that logic anyone who serves in the US military is evil because they are part of a machine that has done many atrocious things despite having done many great things also.

Boom.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2614352]Sirioja logic, if I live in Zurich it means I was never in the mountains. Do you have any idea in how many places in the Alps I get in two hours? Man, you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that is for sure. As sharp as a bowling ball. One more time, I don't write about my cycling in a mongering forum. Go write about your so called cycling in a cycling forum, and everybody there will laugh at you.

I recommend that you listen to the podcast of Josh Portner when he is talking to Tom Anhalt or the one about hysteresis. It's way above your IQ, but give it a try.[/QUOTE]I wrote You are lucky to live quite close to Stelvio and Mortirolo and not so far from Zoncolan through Austria. When I drove at night from close to NL to Stelvio and from Stelvio to Ventoux on next night after climbing Prato 25 kms up to Stelvio but when you moved your inside meat, you don't sleep, I would be on the steep every week end rather than at average Globe, when Paris is a bit more far. When you write about ZH area which is flat at almost sea level, not same sport to climb 5 kms or 20, or around ZH and up to above 2000. Sagan would be powerful in Zurich streets but I would laugh to see him in kilometers 3 to 6 on Ovaro up to Zoncolan where more than 19% average, when I saw him so difficult in much easier Loze where I was quite easy and could even accelerate on 16 on rear on Monday when had already climbed 5000 meters on week end. My sport I love so much with more than 200 highest ranked climbings, 25 in 2 last months, is the most difficult as all athletes who practice to train tell so, Teddy Riner is just pathetic when training to lose weight on a bicycle and of course he will never climb my steep when I may be one of the rare to tell I think marathon is more hard for body for feet, ankles, knees and even heart, when only heart for climbing as long not falling. When I have to turn legs as fast as heart is able for rhythm, helping versus lactic acid hardening muscles, usually in red zone on steeper than 17/18%, then you feel how bicycle follow your efforts, seem light, to always be as fast as able, why I prefer to climb straight in the steep, even on 27% , to shorten distance, I love them but I m not a good Italian curving on steep when I made heart and legs to always face the steepest. Even not finished yet wishing for double Ventoux with no fog on top, but look forward next Summer to improve again, on same bicycle which is fast enough, able to climb Zoncolan at 20 km / h when no racer is able, for my great sport. Wish for free riding on this Winter, which should help for next Summer.

Well, I provided indisputable evident that a highly reputable university is currently setting up ivermectin to fail in "gold standard" study, funded by the NIH. Since they have to use this deception, it can be assume this cheap and safe drug is highly effective. Can anyone provide a logical reasoning that this statement is incorrect? Why would anyone trust scientist? I'm ashamed that science is my profession.

Where as, they have to lower the cycle threshold to make the vaccine look good. When that fail, they move the goal post. Now they come out with an expensive nucleosides analog pill.

As I always say, the vaccine suck. Not comparable to polio or MMR, those are real vaccine. Therefore, it is always my position to save it for older people or people of high risk. The long term risk is low in this population. It will also low the probability of immune escape.

In term of this new Covid pill, I would stay away from nucleosides analog. It is a class of medication that cell can mistakenly incorporate into DNA. I'm not completely against nucleosides analog. If my choice is to die now or take an analog and die maybe die in 10-20 years, I would take die in 20 year of cancer.

But why take that risk, when IVM is so safe and effective, that they have use that kind of trickery to make it fail.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614370]You're using that logic to serve your own beliefs. Using that logic anyone who serves in the US military is evil because they are part of a machine that has done many atrocious things despite having done many great things also.

Boom.[/QUOTE]Classic example of "whataboutism". I will give you another one "officer everyone was speeding, so why are you giving ticket only to me?

OK with all seriousness, there is only one US military and with stupid commander-in-chiefs like George W or the current Bidet, the military ends up doing wrong things like killing innocent Afghan family and claiming he killed some "terrorists", and you have good commander-in-chiefs like Donald who didn't make any such "mistakes". Anyone who serves in military has only one US military to serve, and chances are he will also serve under a good commander-in-chiefs like Donald. On the other hand, a real humanitarian scientist can work for a good university or a less evil company compared to the one that keeps getting huge criminal fines, there are umpteen organizations where he can work for humanity and also make a living. But the bigger question is why someone like you who actually do know how to read and think (I give you that), keep supporting evil and anti-freedom leaders and their activities?

A slightly different topic, but just to educate you on how evil and hypocrite the folks you support are: Gavin Newsom, who said Democrats should 'lean into' vaccine mandates, asks court to halt one ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gavin-newsom-who-said-democrats-should-lean-into-vaccine-mandates-asks-court-to-halt-one/ar-AAPtR4x[/URL]).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614296] ... not able to follow when you push to grip limit and low grip...[/QUOTE]Translation: he crashed the car.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2614453]Classic example of "whataboutism". I will give you another one "officer everyone was speeding, so why are you giving ticket only to me?

OK with all seriousness, there is only one US military and with stupid commander-in-chiefs like George W or the current Bidet, the military ends up doing wrong things like killing innocent Afghan family and claiming he killed some "terrorists", and you have good commander-in-chiefs like Donald who didn't make any such "mistakes". Anyone who serves in military has only one US military to serve, and chances are he will also serve under a good commander-in-chiefs like Donald. On the other hand, a real humanitarian scientist can work for a good university or a less evil company compared to the one that keeps getting huge criminal fines, there are umpteen organizations where he can work for humanity and also make a living. But the bigger question is why someone like you who actually do know how to read and think (I give you that), keep supporting evil and anti-freedom leaders and their activities?

A slightly different topic, but just to educate you on how evil and hypocrite the folks you support are: Gavin Newsom, who said Democrats should 'lean into' vaccine mandates, asks court to halt one ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gavin-newsom-who-said-democrats-should-lean-into-vaccine-mandates-asks-court-to-halt-one/ar-AAPtR4x[/URL]).[/QUOTE]Yes, whataboutism. But in this case it serves a valid criticism. The choice would be to not serve in the military. I don't support those people. I don't think in political dichotomies.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614370]You're using that logic to serve your own beliefs. Using that logic anyone who serves in the US military is evil because they are part of a machine that has done many atrocious things despite having done many great things also.

Boom.[/QUOTE]Cherry picking the evidence to support his self-centered anger and paranoid. Not to mention that the Pfizer vaccine has been monitored and evaluated by entities outside their corporate structure. And they are far from the only vaccine manufacturers.

Bottom line is that twerps like Gino have been kicking, screaming and crying from day one, in a hooker forum because his mongering life has been disrupted. First he was against the restrictions. Since these were demonstrated as useful in saving lives, now the cause is anti-vaxxers. Gino just don't get a vaccine, quit crying and go buy some pussy. There's a lot for sale out there, and all over the world.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614445] ... able to climb Zoncolan at 20 km / h when no racer is able... [/QUOTE]LOL, nobody is able to climb Zoncolan at 20 km / h, unless you mean one short section where it's flat. Pros like Pinot or Woods climb it at 14 km / h. You are climbing at 6 km / h, as it came out based on your own inflated claim. Soon you will say that you climb it at 100 km / h.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2614614]Cherry picking the evidence to support his self-centered anger and paranoid. Not to mention that the Pfizer vaccine has been monitored and evaluated by entities outside their corporate structure. And they are far from the only vaccine manufacturers.

Bottom line is that twerps like Gino have been kicking, screaming and crying from day one, in a hooker forum because his mongering life has been disrupted. First he was against the restrictions. Since these were demonstrated as useful in saving lives, now the cause is anti-vaxxers. Gino just don't get a vaccine, quit crying and go buy some pussy. There's a lot for sale out there, and all over the world.[/QUOTE]Its techinically available all over the world but not as high quality and formerly lowest price as Germany.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2614236]Well, I agree you don't need a helmet, I mean you don't have any brain worth while protecting.[/QUOTE]A 65 kg, 1.65 m high, rectangular shaped object going down a 20% (12 degree) gradient at 1700 m altitude would reach a terminal velocity once he gains enough speed where the drag force cancels out acceleration due to gravity. That speed would be a out 66 km / HR, and that's ignoring forces like friction of tires and gears which, by logic, would decreased that terminal velocity even more. His claim of the riding down a 20% grade mountain, helmetless at 70 km / HR is first a dumb as shit thing to do, but more importantly, impossible as determined by the laws of physics. But maybe Sirioja lives under a different set of physical laws.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614578]Yes, whataboutism. But in this case it serves a valid criticism. The choice would be to not serve in the military. I don't support those people. I don't think in political dichotomies.[/QUOTE]No, the choice would be to serve in military, expose and kick out the bad commder-in-chiefs.

Glad you don't think in political dichotomies, now just start thinking logically.

Watch this: [URL]https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc[/URL].

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2614614]Cherry picking the evidence to support his self-centered anger and paranoid. Not to mention that the Pfizer vaccine has been monitored and evaluated by entities outside their corporate structure. And they are far from the only vaccine manufacturers.

Bottom line is that twerps like Gino have been kicking, screaming and crying from day one, in a hooker forum because his mongering life has been disrupted. First he was against the restrictions. Since these were demonstrated as useful in saving lives, now the cause is anti-vaxxers. Gino just don't get a vaccine, quit crying and go buy some pussy. There's a lot for sale out there, and all over the world.[/QUOTE]Watch this: [URL]https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc[/URL].

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614578]Yes, whataboutism. But in this case it serves a valid criticism. The choice would be to not serve in the military. I don't support those people. I don't think in political dichotomies.[/QUOTE]It wasn't even whataboutism but a valid analogy that demonstrated the fallacy of his reasoning.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614698]A 65 kg, 1.65 m high, rectangular shaped object going down a 20% (12 degree) gradient at 1700 m altitude would reach a terminal velocity once he gains enough speed where the drag force cancels out acceleration due to gravity. That speed would be a out 66 km / HR, and that's ignoring forces like friction of tires and gears which, by logic, would decreased that terminal velocity even more. His claim of the riding down a 20% grade mountain, helmetless at 70 km / HR is first a dumb as shit thing to do, but more importantly, impossible as determined by the laws of physics. But maybe Sirioja lives under a different set of physical laws.[/QUOTE]I'm less than 65 kgs, better to climb, but you never been on a bicycle and you don't know anything about cinetic energy when downhill on 20% steep, you are very fast and easily faster than 70 km / h and I'm not good downhill on bicycle because not heavy enough, don't take too much risk and usually a bit cold in high mountains. You and ZH should really jump on a bicycle to really know more than on internet. Professionals reach 90/100 km / h on less impressive steep.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614871]I'm less than 65 kgs, better to climb.[/QUOTE]Still only 150 W, there are plenty of women with more power. If weight would be the only thing that matter, 5 year old children would be the best at cycling uphill.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614871]I'm less than 65 kgs, better to climb, but you never been on a bicycle and you don't know anything about cinetic energy when downhill on 20% steep, you are very fast and easily faster than 70 km / h and I'm not good downhill on bicycle because not heavy enough, don't take too much risk and usually a bit cold in high mountains. You and ZH should really jump on a bicycle to really know more than on internet. Professionals reach 90/100 km / h on less impressive steep.[/QUOTE]Silly old man. I've road across Florida over 2 weeks and used to bike up Sierra Nevadas of California.

Being less than 65 kg at the same height would actually even lower your terminal speed even more. I don't care how fast you are, impossible to be faster than physics, dummy.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2614644]LOL, nobody is able to climb Zoncolan at 20 km / h, unless you mean one short section where it's flat. Pros like Pinot or Woods climb it at 14 km / h. You are climbing at 6 km / h, as it came out based on your own inflated claim. Soon you will say that you climb it at 100 km / h.[/QUOTE]Learn to read when I wrote with my confidence and now relax for climbing even in Zoncolan or Mortirolo or Loze when I usually climbed forcing, so I look forward next Summer to climb faster, even I want to return to Ventoux with car repaired, when I'm so much faster now than when I started in my 30's on 2003 and I will have same perfect bicycle which would be able to climb at 20 km / h with somebody able to turn enough legs but no professional even with engine in electric gears and all products they take is able. I climbed at 7,5 average the 10,5 kms Ovaro up to Zoncolan with 3 very wet and dark tunnels on top and controlling my effort, 8,5 average and easy in Loze slaloming among gravels on track when I m sure they cleaned for tour de France, but just try to reach the top of them if You are able when we are friends with my bicycle for this and faster in the steep than many expensive bicycle.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614698]A 65 kg, 1.65 m high, rectangular shaped object going down a 20% (12 degree) gradient at 1700 m altitude would reach a terminal velocity once he gains enough speed where the drag force cancels out acceleration due to gravity. That speed would be a out 66 km / HR, and that's ignoring forces like friction of tires and gears which, by logic, would decreased that terminal velocity even more. His claim of the riding down a 20% grade mountain, helmetless at 70 km / HR is first a dumb as shit thing to do, but more importantly, impossible as determined by the laws of physics. But maybe Sirioja lives under a different set of physical laws.[/QUOTE]Believe me (25 years of cycling, often 3 times in a week), if you have some power in your legs it's not so difficult to reach 70 km / h on a more than 5% downhill.

As for superman, when he decided to write the "I'm a pro cyclist with 3 months of practice in a year" chapter of his fantasized autobiography on this board, he first claimed that he was very fast going downhill at 60 km / h. Then suddenly he skipped to 70 km / h. But that's someone who thinks that having a sub 9 kg bike is something to brag about and that Scott KTM is a model of bike.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2614456]Translation: he crashed the car.[/QUOTE]Yes I was the driver so I m responsible and fortunately no other car, only me, but when I needed 1 year to prove to Audi engine had a problem when they didn't find and they changed under guaranty and after no more problem, today I went to see works, explaining them again balance problem on rear because of quattro. After works, expert will test car, I don t care when driving like a papy, Audi will test, I don t care, I told them I will test and take their testing guy with me and they know what I mean. I would not drive Audi quattro to be a Swiss snail, I would buy Dacia, I laugh through Switzerland seeing powerful cars blocked in first gear. Downhill on bicycle at 70 km / h is much more impressive than 250 in a car. But you have to experience both to know.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2614755]It wasn't even whataboutism but a valid analogy that demonstrated the fallacy of his reasoning.[/QUOTE]You know when "whataboutism" or even an analogy is needed to defend a point? When the point doesn't have it's own merit to stand. My point is: can we really trust the scientists or the companies that they work for which were repeatedly convicted and fined billions of dollars for repeated deceptions? We don't need any analogy to conclude that the resounding correct answer is "No! We cannot trust them". Period. Case closed.

If you still want to investigate that conclusion, go ahead do your own research. Here are some starting points (please watch them with your clam open mind, instead of being angry that Gino is trying to tell you something that you think you are right and he's wrong):

[URL]https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0[/URL]

You can call me whatever names you want, but none of that will change the hard facts.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614906] ... with my confidence ...[/QUOTE]Being delusional is completely different than having confidence, old man. You still climb a 150 W only, plenty of women with more power.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2614909]Believe me (25 years of cycling, often 3 times in a week), if you have some power in your legs it's not so difficult to reach 70 km / h on a more than 5% downhill.

As for superman, when he decided to write the "I'm a pro cyclist with 3 months of practice in a year" chapter of his fantasized autobiography on this board, he first claimed that he was very fast going downhill at 60 km / h. Then suddenly he skipped to 70 km / h. But that's someone who thinks that having a sub 9 kg bike is something to brag about and that Scott KTM is a model of bike.[/QUOTE]For sure when you're 90-100 kg. But for a 70 kg man, the physics doesn't quite work out without the bike taking air.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2614926]You know when "whataboutism" or even an analogy is needed to defend a point? When the point doesn't have it's own merit to stand. My point is: can we really trust the scientists or the companies that they work for which were repeatedly convicted and fined billions of dollars for repeated deceptions? We don't need any analogy to conclude that the resounding correct answer is "No! We cannot trust them". Period. Case closed.

If you still want to investigate that conclusion, go ahead do your own research. Here are some starting points (please watch them with your clam open mind, instead of being angry that Gino is trying to tell you something that you think you are right and he's wrong):

[URL]https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc[/URL]

You do realize that Pfizers vaccine was developed entirely by BionTech scientists right? Pfizer had no role in development. And what of Moderna?

[URL]https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0[/URL]

You can call me whatever names you want, but none of that will change the hard facts.[/QUOTE]Even if your second degree of association was to be given any consideration, you forgot to consider that BionTech developed the vaccine entirely on it's own. Pfizer was only brought on to help process production, clinical trial logistics, legal, and distribution. Plus there's Moderna. So there's all that.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2614909]Believe me (25 years of cycling, often 3 times in a week), if you have some power in your legs it's not so difficult to reach 70 km / h on a more than 5% downhill.[/QUOTE]I think that the calculation about max speed is missing the rider possible pedalling (depends on max gearing and max cadence) and you would need to know the cdA of the rider. You could pick a medium cdA, but some riders are much more aero than others. For downhills in real life the limiting factors are traffic, curves, road surface, how well do you know the downhill, is it windy etc. On a fast enough downhill even an almost invisible bump in the road can throw you off. I have a favorite downhill here in the ZRH area, I see the entire road when I am at the top, it is fairly straight and I have been down that road hundreds of times. I wouldn't bomb down a road I don't know, since over the years I have left my share of skin on the road. Road rash is not fun.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2614900]Silly old man. I've road across Florida over 2 weeks and used to bike up Sierra Nevadas of California.

Being less than 65 kg at the same height would actually even lower your terminal speed even more. I don't care how fast you are, impossible to be faster than physics, dummy.[/QUOTE]You same than ZH just don't know anything about bicycle, reason why nobody for 2 October and You also don t know anything about cinetic energy. Just try to go on California street in San Francisco and don t brake and You will reach very fast 70 km / h if You let go without braking, not even turning legs, when California street is nothing compare to my climbings when I go only for steepest. There I kill my brakes because I would be very fast much faster than 70 km / h downhill such steep if I didn't brake very often and when only light weight, light is fast as told Colin Chapman who is still reference for race cars. But You only know when You really experienced on the steep, You don t learn sport on internet and when having bad level in dynamics. In my playfield and I m not the fastest downhill because not heavy enough, but we are faster than most cars and in straight lines for kilometers downhill Ventoux to Malaucene, I could be much faster than 70 km / h if I turned legs when I sometimes brake when I don t feel enough the grip under narrow tires. I really would like to see 3 here on the steep, not even top extreme, but like up to Verbier from Sambrancher like I chose, just to laugh, and for sure can be much faster than 70 km / h down from Verbier to LE Chable.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2614912]Yes I was the driver so I m responsible and fortunately no other car, only me....[/QUOTE]Note to self: If you write posts on ISG while driving you will crash car.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2615157]Note to self: If you write posts on ISG while driving you will crash car.[/QUOTE]Not writing nor phone calling on crash, big rain on 14 July morning which made big problems in Belgium and Germany with many deaths, I drove in France and very bad very violent reaction, not only sliding, from rear of the car due to quattro electronics reaction. Couldn't control the rear but managed to avoid front crash to protect new engine and not to open all airbags, then car would have been dead, saved car whatever could think expert and shock was for me, but pain in mind was higher than shoulder. My mistake was not to be on expert visit to explain him about reparation, but I fought all Summer to get it. When driving at night between my climbing's or between clubs or returning to work, reading and writing in English make my mind working and not feeling asleep on long motorway driving when I drive around 90000 kms per year. Old lady Audi with perfect balance even under big rain is not so far from 600000 kms with original engine after this Summer in mountains. Audi look at me with round eyes when I show them 20 km / h faster registered on GPS than Audi maximum speed and so many kilometers and still working good despite improving power and performances. As I told them yesterday, after so many problems since 2 years: electronics, engine, car heater, particles filter putting engine on safety protection, quattro to crash, even I fought like a carcajou whole Summer to save it when even Audi didn't think it worth, and will cost me more than 7000 € more than insurances, but my way of thinking. As told me German Pia at GT on a even too hardcore room for my taste and never repeated with her, when already 4 fingers done so she took my whole hand to put inside of her asking if I wanted to fist her, not my thing and she told I could for expensive extra, so I put off my hand with her wet fluid on bed, You never give up but You control all she said. Fortunately for me I m able, help for my life, I decide and only me for myself.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2614969]Being delusional is completely different than having confidence, old man. You still climb a 150 W only, plenty of women with more power.[/QUOTE]With all my confidence now when now relaxing climbing on steepest You and 2 others will never climb and I would like to see Sagan in Zoncolan steepest parts when he was so difficult and close to be off race in much easier Loze, when I was easy in Loze on gravels they for sure didn't have because quite dangerous, relaxing in Mortirolo and controlling in Zoncolan, climbing only on 2 months after being sick for 1 month and half and when last was 9 months ago and no ski on Winter, 7,5 average in Zoncolan, 8,5 in Loze, usually between 9 and 11/12 in others, I would like to see You 3 climbing, to see if expensive bicycles climb faster. When I started Ventoux from Bedoin on last Saturday after climbing Prato 25 kms up to Stelvio on Friday with snow on 5 last kilometers and driving whole night after to Ventoux, I put my playlist music and topless with swim boxer suit as always, on start quite flat, 2 guys on expensive bicycles faster than me on quite flat, told me You climb like David Guetta, a real insult for me when they didn't even know about Led Zeppelin or Jimi Hendrix or new superstar Ayron Jones, but I thought truth will be in the steep in forest and as soon a bit steep I saw they were not anymore so fast, I didn t even rush to reach close to them, I knew, 2 and only me, but when I was just behind them, relaxing a bit on 28 , then violent acceleration on 24 just before the right curve with short 20% inside, I climbed straight the 20% but 2 expensive bicycles were not able for so steep, so they had to make longer distance, so they seemed stop, never saw them close behind me after when they were 2, when I just felt strong, like in Mortirolo or Loze. Funny good game when they are more regular than me in Ventoux. Wish I can return, waiting for new car, for double Ventoux, 3200 meters climbing on 41 kms, for my last Summer day when nearly always Summer there, when lost so much water when I climbed under 35 degrees and more on August when I started. At least, I really climb the highest ranked, I don't waste energy on hills.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2615016]Even if your second degree of association was to be given any consideration, you forgot to consider that BionTech developed the vaccine entirely on it's own. Pfizer was only brought on to help process production, clinical trial logistics, legal, and distribution. Plus there's Moderna. So there's all that.[/QUOTE]Yes, and that's even worse, to mandate a vaccine produced and distributed in partnership with a convicted criminal organization. All these companies and and the current governments' eagerness to mandate the Covid vaccine (that neither stops getting the virus, nor stops spreading it, only reduces chances of getting really sick but also with a pretty significant chances of fatal side effects, unlike other established and well tested vaccines eg for MMR, Tetanus, Hepatitis etc) should make you think. They are all in this together, all partners in crime. Just follow the money LOL.

BTW, did you watch the two videos I shared (links below again)? Any comment on those?

[URL]https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2615012]For sure when you're 90-100 kg. But for a 70 kg man, the physics doesn't quite work out without the bike taking air.[/QUOTE]Yes yes, professionals racers are 90 kgs and they need a truck to climb, when less than 70 kgs, much better to climb, reach 100 km / h in not so steep than my extreme climbings. Nibali. It is very fast for downhill, but he can't fight with Riner. FR or Fury. Uk. Just have to use a bicycle and don't need electric gears nor disk brakes to easily know, experiencing reality of dynamics on the field, not with mistake in formula on internet.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2615012]For sure when you're 90-100 kg. But for a 70 kg man, the physics doesn't quite work out without the bike taking air.[/QUOTE]You just have to pedal, that's rather usual on a bike.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2615207]Yes, and that's even worse, to mandate a vaccine produced and distributed in partnership with a convicted criminal organization. All these companies and and the current governments' eagerness to mandate the Covid vaccine (that neither stops getting the virus, nor stops spreading it, only reduces chances of getting really sick but also with a pretty significant chances of fatal side effects, unlike other established and well tested vaccines eg for MMR, Tetanus, Hepatitis etc) should make you think. They are all in this together, all partners in crime. Just follow the money LOL.

BTW, did you watch the two videos I shared (links below again)? Any comment on those?

[URL]https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0[/URL][/QUOTE]Foil hat noted.

Did not watch videos.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2615248]You just have to pedal, that's rather usual on a bike.[/QUOTE]Ever pedaled without traction? Did the bike move much? At what speed is the upward (y) component of drag force equal and opposite to the downward (-y) component of the force at which a sub 65 kg object traveling down a 20% gradient?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615093]I really would like to see 3 here on the steep..[/QUOTE]You write about cycling in a mongering forum because you were thinking that nobody here knows much about cycling. You are craving attention like a little child and you wanted to brag. Such a shame that when you tried to brag I showed that your average power when climbing is 150 W and that you are in bottom 40% Strava times for your age group. Go write about your 150 W in a cycling forum if you dare.

My risk factor is going to be going to some FKK clubs and the RLD for a few days. Would you go to the trouble of getting the booster? I am healthy in my fifties. I thought it would be a crazy question to ask. I really just don't want to come up positive for my flight back.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615344]You write about cycling in a mongering forum because you were thinking that nobody here knows much about cycling. You are craving attention like a little child and you wanted to brag. Such a shame that when you tried to brag I showed that your average power when climbing is 150 W and that you are in bottom 40% Strava times for your age group. Go write about your 150 W in a cycling forum if you dare.[/QUOTE]Come to climb really steep highest ranked with me if you dare and we will count about all our watts. I'm fully sure I was much easier and faster than Sagan in Loze with gravels for me, pretty sure not on tour 2020, I would like to see him in Zoncolan between 3 and 6. Ask on your internet about 25 highest ranked climbings on 2 months, 30/35 thousands meters climbed without training since 9 months, no ski on Winter and sick for 1 month and half just before, just with my strength and heart rhythm at start and now I made good legs. I improved in this most difficult sport since my start on 2003 and in my 50's but give power, still very fit, firm belly, hard and don t need viagra to fuck. On my second 6 sens NL visit, if I didn't become a so bad hunter not anymore able to run after girls when I was so used for so long time to have my regulars coming to me, but I would have liked to have a third room also for 1 hour, meaning 3 hours in room and 3 rounds in 6 hours for my old big tool, I like to compare under shower since I was 15 and playing football. If we confirm the wow on repeat when I couldn't repeat with elegant discovery, then I will ask her to help me when I don t want to have to run after her even she seems one of the busiest, guys jumping on her at lockers, but I'm not able for this, I feel more desire when my girls come to me. When I will make my double Ventoux, if not too cold, I will try to go faster than 70 in 2 long straight lines about 10/12% down to Malaucene, should not be so difficult, not even needing to turn legs much, most difficult being to still feel grip for me, not to have to brake, when feeling faster than at 250 on autobahn. In Alp Huez down between la Garde and Bourg, you accelerate also very fast down on quite steep. Reality of playfield.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2615474]My risk factor is going to be going to some FKK clubs and the RLD for a few days. Would you go to the trouble of getting the booster? I am healthy in my fifties. I thought it would be a crazy question to ask. I really just don't want to come up positive for my flight back.[/QUOTE]Risky playfields, some vaccinated being positive and can spread.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615481]I'm fully sure I was much easier and faster than Sagan..[/QUOTE]You are just an old guy with early onset dementia and delusions. Climbing at 150 W, bottom 40% of the age group in Strava. Just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615504]You are just an old guy with early onset dementia and delusions. Climbing at 150 W, bottom 40% of the age group in Strava. Just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]No grupppetto and faster than him, 8,5 average between gravels. Do you know many guys who climb my highest ranked? Or just on flat in ZH? Not same sport, mine is the most difficult according to professionals, why I love it, because selective, when children are able on the flat. Just try when you are closer than me, before bullshitting as a jealous follower, but not able to turn legs on steep, when I love to dance swinging for hours on my beloved reactive bicycle on the steep, able to climb 10 kms like this, when impossible sitting in more than 20% steep.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2615293]Ever pedaled without traction? Did the bike move much? At what speed is the upward (y) component of drag force equal and opposite to the downward (-y) component of the force at which a sub 65 kg object traveling down a 20% gradient?[/QUOTE]Try to find a bicycle with 2 round narrow wheels, go downhill in 10% steep, not so steep, don't brake but let go even without pushing on pedals and then you will learn about real dynamics on real playfield, rather than only internet. You should experience to accelerate quite fast. Look on internet professional racers cycling downhill when they are not often on 10% steep, they are not 90 kgs heavy even with bicycle, water, foods and products, but they sometimes reach 100. Better to know mathematics formula.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615537]faster than him...[/QUOTE]You are just an old guy with early onset dementia and delusions. Climbing at 150 W, bottom 40% of the age group in Strava. Just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615539]Try to find a bicycle with 2 round narrow wheels...[/QUOTE]Round wheels, who knew? Is this a new invention?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615537] ... Do you know many guys who climb my highest ranked? ... [/QUOTE]You write like you believe that have invented pedaling. There are tens of thousands of people who did these climbs, as seen on Strava. You make obviously ridiculous claims, like saying that you are fitter than a triple world champion. When you make such obviously false claims, everything else you write has no credibility. Show some proof, otherwise all your claims are the results of early onset dementia paired with delusions, 150 W old guy.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2615474]My risk factor is going to be going to some FKK clubs and the RLD for a few days. Would you go to the trouble of getting the booster? I am healthy in my fifties. I thought it would be a crazy question to ask. I really just don't want to come up positive for my flight back.[/QUOTE]You should go all in for the booster. No sense waiting and you can get more antibodies ASAP.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2615207]Yes, and that's even worse, to mandate a vaccine produced and distributed in partnership with a convicted criminal organization. All these companies and and the current governments' eagerness to mandate the Covid vaccine (that neither stops getting the virus, nor stops spreading it, only reduces chances of getting really sick but also with a pretty significant chances of fatal side effects, unlike other established and well tested vaccines eg for MMR, Tetanus, Hepatitis etc) should make you think. They are all in this together, all partners in crime. Just follow the money LOL.

BTW, did you watch the two videos I shared (links below again)? Any comment on those?

[URL]https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/g7W0OnLl4a0[/URL][/QUOTE]The fact that victims of the vaccine can't sue should say something about the lack of responsibility the drug companies and not willing to put their money on the line that their vaccines are legit.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615593]You are just an old guy with early onset dementia and delusions. Climbing at 150 W, bottom 40% of the age group in Strava. Just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Old French good wine improve with age, I improved so much since 2003 and my best performances in Italian Agnello 2744, Zoncolan, Mortirolo, Loze and Bedoin up to Ventoux on this Summer. And with my perfect prepared bicycle which could be faster than the fastest racer, when my tour is not finished yet, when ski already start on next Saturday, I look forward enough snow for Christmas, and next Summer to improve again. I only climb to be faster, I was in Loze and than Sagan and gruppetto, after only around 500 kms, not so bad, still good strength.

Russians trust so few Putin, so despite sputnik Vladimir, only vaccine in Russia, but only 30% vaccinated and 1000 daily deaths. Image of Putin. Same than image of girls in brothels for me, to decide to spend or not.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615593]You are just an old guy with early onset dementia and delusions. Climbing at 150 W, bottom 40% of the age group in Strava. Just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]It must be contagious because you're stuck in a loop too!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615598]You write like you believe that have invented pedaling. There are tens of thousands of people who did these climbs, as seen on Strava. You make obviously ridiculous claims, like saying that you are fitter than a triple world champion. When you make such obviously false claims, everything else you write has no credibility. Show some proof, otherwise all your claims are the results of early onset dementia paired with delusions, 150 W old guy.[/QUOTE]But I proposed you all along Summer for Gran San Bernardino, but you are not able, when I climbed 25 highest ranked, most more difficult than Gran San Bernardino, and 30/35 000 meters high since 8 August, but if more than 10 kms a bit steep = more steep than 8% , meaning more than 800 meters high to climb around ZH, when I will get my car repaired around mid November, I can show you and your friends my watt in the steep. Let me know, I look forward playing for real, like I would like to climb Zoncolan with Sagan, I don't say I can compete with Formolo or Pogacar.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2615637]The fact that victims of the vaccine can't sue should say something about the lack of responsibility the drug companies and not willing to put their money on the line that their vaccines are legit.[/QUOTE]It's like I've been saying all along, guys like you and conspiracy theory / Covid misinformation peddlers like Gino need to steer clear of the vaccines, for the sake of the international gene pool. It's actually an excellent, Darwinian work in process as there's no remedy for stupidly. Meanwhile the rest of us have gone on with our lives while avoiding risks of serious illness, and with minimal risks of side effects. Thumbs up.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615859]But I proposed you all along Summer for Gran San Bernardino, but you are not able, when I climbed 25 highest ranked, most more difficult than Gran San Bernardino, and 30/35 000 meters high since 8 August, but if more than 10 kms a bit steep = more steep than 8% , meaning more than 800 meters high to climb around ZH, when I will get my car repaired around mid November, I can show you and your friends my watt in the steep. Let me know, I look forward playing for real, like I would like to climb Zoncolan with Sagan, I don't say I can compete with Formolo or Pogacar.[/QUOTE]You refused a bet with Mursenary, because you are all talk, no substance. 10000 Euros in an escrow account, contract signed via a notary or a lawyer. You refuse to put your money where your mouth is because you are afraid. You just beg for attention, because you have no life and no friends.

You make all sorts of claim, and never offer any proof. Anybody can make any claim on the internet. What if I claim I did Alpe d'Huez in 50 minutes, now prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615859]I don't say I can compete with Formolo or Pogacar ...[/QUOTE]You said you are more fit in general than Sagan, triple world champion, not just that you are faster than him on steep climbs. Totally ridiculous, laughable claim and you shot yourself in the foot when you said for the first time a concrete time. So I showed that on Strava, which any serious cyclist is using, for that time, for your weight, you only climb at 150 W. You repeatedly bring up only weight, when it is power to weight ratio that matters. Remember Elissonde vs van Aert on the Ventoux? Who is significantly heavier? Who won? If weight would be only thing that matters, children would be that fastest climbers ever, because they are lighter than cycling pros. You only mention weight, because you are an old, wrinkly bag of bones with no muscles.

Next time you tried to say your time is 10 minutes faster. In Strava, for your age group, you are bottom 40%, below average cyclotourist. Compared to a not trained individual, it's Ok. There are however plenty of people who make sport all year round, for many years, not just a few weekends per year. But sure, you are better than a triple world champion in cycling.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2615867]It's like I've been saying all along, guys like you and conspiracy theory / Covid misinformation peddlers like Gino need to steer clear of the vaccines, for the sake of the international gene pool. It's actually an excellent, Darwinian work in process as there's no remedy for stupidly. Meanwhile the rest of us have gone on with our lives while avoiding risks of serious illness, and with minimal risks of side effects. Thumbs up.[/QUOTE]Same as those of us who haven't taken it. Very minimal risks of serious illness and zero chance of any side effects from experimental vaccines.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615594]Round wheels, who knew? Is this a new invention?[/QUOTE]US doesn't seem to know much about speed on a bicycle, when I always try to climb as fast my heart rhythm is able, often putting in red zone to turn legs as fast as possible and to prevent lactic acid, but I m not the fastest downhill when at more than 60 , I feel like I will fly and more impressive than at 250 in car. But on bicycle with 2 round wheels, when steeper than 10% , very fast to be faster than 70 if not braking, when I brake quite often to feel a bit grip and putting off blocked pedals when no helmet.

Being an anti-vaxer I have researched that Covid antibodies are present in breast milk. Thus, all an anti vaxer need to do is to find a woman who has big breasts who has been fully vaccinated. Then strike up a nursing relationship and suck on her breasts until the milk comes out and thus the anti-vaxer avoids the mRNA vaccine yet still gets a healthy dose of antibodies.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2615634]You should go all in for the booster. No sense waiting and you can get more antibodies ASAP.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. I think I qualify if I state my reason why. I don't think I will have to give a reason. I am waiting for them to start giving boosters for Moderna in my country.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2616109]Being an anti-vaxer I have researched that Covid antibodies are present in breast milk. Thus, all an anti vaxer need to do is to find a woman who has big breasts who has been fully vaccinated. Then strike up a nursing relationship and suck on her breasts until the milk comes out and thus the anti-vaxer avoids the mRNA vaccine yet still gets a healthy dose of antibodies.[/QUOTE]You don't need milk. When you have sex with someone, you also gain part of their immune system. Any close contact leads to this. And because of this, we can also extrapolate that the demonic powers that run this run this world wants us more sick by enforcing a reduction in human contact.

[URL]https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8491305_Sexual_frequency_and_immunoglobulin_A_IgA[/URL]

Though the main agenda that trumps them all (no need for the obvious joke here) is as we all know: depopulation.

[URL]https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151005132740.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=PokePro;2615956]Same as those of us who haven't taken it. Very minimal risks of serious illness and zero chance of any side effects from experimental vaccines.[/QUOTE]Little problem: the probability for an unvaccinated dude of catching and suffering seriously from covid is way bigger than the probability of being crippled from side effects for a vaccinated dude. Plus, you're also more likely to spread the disease, even if you don't suffer from it.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2615866]I like to compare belly and tool, when I take long showers in FKK.[/QUOTE]Definitely a Creeper statement. And the other creeper on that thread took it and ran with it. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2616072]Romania is now COVID critical:

[URL]https://www.eureporter.co/world/romania/2021/10/18/romania-has-the-highest-covid-mortality-rate-in-the-world/[/URL][/QUOTE]Considering their understandable (especially for them) distrust in government, combined with a prevalent culture of conspiracy theory, "I-know-it-all" arrogance, a broken healthcare system, and a vaccination rate of under 30%, Romania is fucked. Same with Bulgaria and indirectly, the near future of the FKK scene.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615930]You refused a bet with Mursenary, because you are all talk, no substance. 10000 Euros in an escrow account, contract signed via a notary or a lawyer. You refuse to put your money where your mouth is because you are afraid. You just beg for attention, because you have no life and no friends.

You make all sorts of claim, and never offer any proof. Anybody can make any claim on the internet. What if I claim I did Alpe d'Huez in 50 minutes, now prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]He doesn't even know about speed on a bicycle and he was not on 2 October. I proposed you to prove you but you don't want. I didn't climb Alp Huez since 2018 in the wind, but on next time, I will go for less than 1 hour for around 12 kilometers. Easy after 3 first kilometers. Ask your so many friends to come to climb with us.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2615937]You said you are more fit in general than Sagan, triple world champion, not just that you are faster than him on steep climbs. Totally ridiculous, laughable claim and you shot yourself in the foot when you said for the first time a concrete time. So I showed that on Strava, which any serious cyclist is using, for that time, for your weight, you only climb at 150 W. You repeatedly bring up only weight, when it is power to weight ratio that matters. Remember Elissonde vs van Aert on the Ventoux? Who is significantly heavier? Who won? If weight would be only thing that matters, children would be that fastest climbers ever, because they are lighter than cycling pros. You only mention weight, because you are an old, wrinkly bag of bones with no muscles.

Next time you tried to say your time is 10 minutes faster. In Strava, for your age group, you are bottom 40%, below average cyclotourist. Compared to a not trained individual, it's Ok. There are however plenty of people who make sport all year round, for many years, not just a few weekends per year. But sure, you are better than a triple world champion in cycling.[/QUOTE]Try to climb Ovaro up to Zoncolan or from Sutrio with 27% , Mazzo up to Mortirolo, Loze, 2 sides Stelvio, Agnello, la Bonette, telegraphe Galibier and many others, when I had enough stamina and watt for my great Summer tour. V V Aert is good but after Ventoux, he exploded on tour and in Ventoux, Pogacar was in a bad day. For sure, I m much lighter than Sagan and easier than him for climbing when Loze is not so difficult for me, 8,5 average on last a bit more than 7 kms, when everybody told me: so difficult, most give up and don't reach the top, when I reached on discovery, as a tourist without even looking at profile and after Cormet Roselend earlier on day. And I m able only on my strength, without training, but I improve between start and end of tour, furthermore when no anemia like on Summer 2020 when also thermic shock when downhill from Stelvio to Bormio under cold rain. The steepest, the most I love and I think be competitive, when Newton is my friend.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2616138]Well, when they pay people to change their death certificates. What did you expect? LOL![/QUOTE]LOL, this is the same guy who several months ago said that COVID deaths were massively undercounted. Now he suggests that they're fraudulently overcounted. Baffoonery. A straight up clown.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2616191]Considering their understandable (especially for them) distrust in government, combined with a prevalent culture of conspiracy theory, "I-know-it-all" arrogance, a broken healthcare system, and a vaccination rate of under 30%, Romania is fucked. Same with Bulgaria and indirectly, the near future of the FKK scene.[/QUOTE]If RO and BG gets hit hard by a winter wave, how would the near future of FKK scene also be fucked? I suppose it would if Western Europe decides to close off the borders again. But if the economies of RO and BG suffer, that would be a push factor for WGs to migrate for work, would it not? Most WGs are in the 20's and healthy, so they should survive CV-19.

Of the WGs currently working in NRW, I would guess that more than 30 percent got vaccinated (or purchased papers from the black market) simply to avoid the cost and hassle of paying for PCR tests. Although at the moment, NRW is back to allowing Schnell tests as long as they are less than six hours old. Rumors say that a few of the smaller clubs "mandated" the vaccine. Some clubs have policies that encourage vaccination: Fully-vaccinated WGs at Babylon pay only 40 EUR entry, but WGs that choose to test daily must pay 70 EUR entry.

Two WGs I know were out-of-work for two weeks recently due to contracting CV-19. The WG who got it first claimed it was the sickest she has ever been in her life. The second WG got sick four days later, but only had a fever for 3-4 days. Both are 100 percent and back at work, but the WG who had more severe symptoms still needs to test everyday (because she did not have enough antibodies? While the WG who just had a fever now has the "Healed" certificate that exempts her from testing for the next six months. Both WGs suspect that the first WG probably contracted CV-19 from an asymptomatic client.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2616215]He doesn't even know about speed on a bicycle and he was not on 2 October. I proposed you to prove you but you don't want. I didn't climb Alp Huez since 2018 in the wind, but on next time, I will go for less than 1 hour for around 12 kilometers. Easy after 3 first kilometers. Ask your so many friends to come to climb with us.[/QUOTE]Bahahahahah. Old man telling bullshit. Better than pro athlete, better than physics. Okay my 60 kg little gremlin.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2616288]If RO and BG gets hit hard by a winter wave, how would the near future of FKK scene also be fucked? I suppose it would if Western Europe decides to close off the borders again. But if the economies of RO and BG suffer, that would be a push factor for WGs to migrate for work, would it not? Most WGs are in the 20's and healthy, so they should survive CV-19.[/QUOTE]Short answer and likely scenario is that more obstacles to get in the way of "normalcy." If in 1-2 years, Eastern Europe is in ruins and girls are desperate, I guess that helps the scene. Either way, the near future looks like more of the same low supply to meet demands so prices will be inflated and selection will be shit.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2616119]Thanks for the input. I think I qualify if I state my reason why. I don't think I will have to give a reason. I am waiting for them to start giving boosters for Moderna in my country.[/QUOTE]The biggest antibody rise is to mix and match so if you had a messenger RNA vaccine then use the Johnson vaccine for the booster.

Also if the Johnson vaccine is not available then switch brands of messenger RNA vaccines. I. E. If vaccinated with Pfizer then do the Moderna booster.

You can just start off with a new vaccine card no reason to tell them of your old vaccine. Then you can carry two cards around in case one is lost.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2616215] Ask your so many friends to come to climb with us.[/QUOTE]Why don't you bring your own friends? Is it because you don't have any?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2616288]If RO and BG gets hit hard by a winter wave, how would the near future of FKK scene also be fucked? I suppose it would if Western Europe decides to close off the borders again. [/QUOTE]I don't think borders will be closed again. At most the other EU countries will require from RO and BG that they are vaccinated if they want to travel.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2616215]Ask your so many friends to come to climb with us.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;2615866]I like to compare belly and tool, when I take long showers in FKK.[/QUOTE]Now who wouldn't want to meet a creepy old guy who likes to look at the tools of other guys?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2616178]Definitely a Creeper statement. And the other creeper on that thread took it and ran with it. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]But when you can't believe WGs even all say same in any club all over FKK land until Spain, but shower talk and can compare with Germans in Germany, NL at Bruggen or 6, Swiss in Switzerland, about look, hair, belly and tool in 50's and even less, to confirm what all girls say. They don't always lie.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2616288]If RO and BG gets hit hard by a winter wave, how would the near future of FKK scene also be fucked? I suppose it would if Western Europe decides to close off the borders again. But if the economies of RO and BG suffer, that would be a push factor for WGs to migrate for work, would it not? Most WGs are in the 20's and healthy, so they should survive CV-19.

Of the WGs currently working in NRW, I would guess that more than 30 percent got vaccinated (or purchased papers from the black market) simply to avoid the cost and hassle of paying for PCR tests. Although at the moment, NRW is back to allowing Schnell tests as long as they are less than six hours old. Rumors say that a few of the smaller clubs "mandated" the vaccine. Some clubs have policies that encourage vaccination: Fully-vaccinated WGs at Babylon pay only 40 EUR entry, but WGs that choose to test daily must pay 70 EUR entry.

Two WGs I know were out-of-work for two weeks recently due to contracting CV-19. The WG who got it first claimed it was the sickest she has ever been in her life. The second WG got sick four days later, but only had a fever for 3-4 days. Both are 100 percent and back at work, but the WG who had more severe symptoms still needs to test everyday (because she did not have enough antibodies? While the WG who just had a fever now has the "Healed" certificate that exempts her from testing for the next six months. Both WGs suspect that the first WG probably contracted CV-19 from an asymptomatic client.[/QUOTE]Sharks proposed vaccine to their girls. My Summer weekly regular when I was not in my beloved mountains, she can t compete with funny marmots and real sport, got her 2 biontech doses there. Even she got fever, but she seemed happy about Sharks way with girls. Girls were proposed but not compulsory. Didn't hear about another club organizing vaccination for WGs, when really good point and for their safety.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2616374]Why don't you bring your own friends? Is it because you don't have any?[/QUOTE]No friend of mine, when I have more women, can follow me for my climbings nor extreme free ride, but sometimes I climb with guys met on climbing. When I meet nice people on ski, but I prefer to tell them not to follow me among crevaces or rocks, just look what is Mont Gelé Verbier side under lift and think if you want to follow me. On next time, I wish in April, will go to break my record, I want 6 runs, meaning running for about 3 hours in this fall then die, staff will look at me again with round eyes. When I proposed you all Summer for climbing to compare our watts, but I won't propose you for this spot nor between crevaces on the right when you go out of tunnel on Klein Matterhorn. But I don't need friends in brothels, only beauties interest me.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2616241]LOL, this is the same guy who several months ago said that COVID deaths were massively undercounted. Now he suggests that they're fraudulently overcounted. Baffoonery. A straight up clown.[/QUOTE]New info can change a lot of things. You on the other hand has never had any info. Different strains have different death rates also. The delta strain is a weak one.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2616575]No friend of mine, when I have more women ... [/QUOTE]Got it, you have no friends, no surprise there. Prostitutes don't count as women friends.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2616630]New info can change a lot of things. You on the other hand has never had any info. Different strains have different death rates also. The delta strain is a weak one.[/QUOTE]More likely whatever argument fits your story.

Original discussion was centered around India numbers which was Delta.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2616395]But when you can't believe WGs even all say same in any club all over FKK land until Spain, but shower talk and can compare with Germans in Germany, NL at Bruggen or 6, Swiss in Switzerland, about look, hair, belly and tool in 50's and even less, to confirm what all girls say. They don't always lie.[/QUOTE]I would rather be labeled with a 3 cm hard-on cock than as a creeper. Damn.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2616337]The biggest antibody rise is to mix and match so if you had a messenger RNA vaccine then use the Johnson vaccine for the booster.

Also if the Johnson vaccine is not available then switch brands of messenger RNA vaccines. I. E. If vaccinated with Pfizer then do the Moderna booster.

You can just start off with a new vaccine card no reason to tell them of your old vaccine. Then you can carry two cards around in case one is lost.[/QUOTE]I had not thought about starting out with a new card, thanks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2616395]But when you can't believe WGs even all say same in any club all over FKK land until Spain, but shower talk and can compare with Germans in Germany, NL at Bruggen or 6, Swiss in Switzerland, about look, hair, belly and tool in 50's and even less, to confirm what all girls say. They don't always lie.[/QUOTE]You still like to stare at other dudes in the shower. Weirdo.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2616691]Got it, you have no friends, no surprise there. Prostitutes don't count as women friends.[/QUOTE]Prostitutes are not my friends, just pleasure. Had many married women for friends, from work and still now, one with a child divorced for me even she always told she decided, because she knew I would not agree, and one also with a child finished her divorce despite husband pressure on child. Women feel safe with me, I don't jump on them, even they are afraid for me when we know a bit each other. I m also much more interested by women in real life, I find them more clever than guys on average in real life.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2616692]More likely whatever argument fits your story.

Original discussion was centered around India numbers which was Delta.[/QUOTE]'Delta' is just a grouping. It has mutated far far away from the version in India over 6 months ago! You really don't know anything do you?

Also: [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/nih-admits-funding-gain-function-125103852.html[/URL].

It just took some time for them to decide on who to scapegoat. But they still want Fauci to be something of a hero even if we all know he knew all along due to his phone call logs.

Looking forward to the day when this precision targeting DNA changing stuff we find in the vaccines reduces the number of men in this world. Then the sex ratio gets that much more fun.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2617047]... Women feel safe with me, I don't jump on them...[/QUOTE]I see, you are friendzoned, LOL. So you have no friends.

Look everyone, we have here on this board the authority of viral taxonomy. What a clown.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2617059]Looking forward to the day when this precision targeting DNA changing stuff we find in the vaccines reduces the number of men in this world. Then the sex ratio gets that much more fun.[/QUOTE]Translation:

"Evil autistic man-child roots for mass global casualties just so he finally has a chance of getting female attention."

Evil clown.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2617234]Translation:

"Evil autistic man-child roots for mass global casualties just so he finally has a chance of getting female attention."

Evil clown.[/QUOTE]You are clearly not a very smart person.

I wouldn't tell everyone here if I wasn't the nicest person in the room. You on the other hand have watched too much House.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2617268]You are clearly not a very smart person.

I wouldn't tell everyone here if I wasn't the nicest person in the room. You on the other hand have watched too much House.[/QUOTE]Hence the word, "translation." Your routinely subpar use of English grammar often requires clarification, as evident by the quoted statement above. Third graders learn to not use double negatives.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2617234]Translation:

"Evil autistic man-child roots for mass global casualties just so he finally has a chance of getting female attention."

Evil clown.[/QUOTE]I don't mean this an an insult but I would think you have Asbergers by the way you rail on things that are not important. People aren't taking what they say seriously on here and don't care if it is true or not. It what people do. I think I am probably undiagnosable. For me it is things like having a very good memory for school work but not having a good working memory for doing something complicated yet common on a cash register for example. I never thought I had it for multiple reasons. One, it was not a thing when I was a child. I imagine they are teaching kids today how not to have the traits. You seem to know them. The friend thing is for me is kinda of like not being able to tolerate them. I don't really feel bad about not having them. I imagine they teach that is bad now. They did not teach me that was bad so I don't always think that is so. I would argue it makes me more manly.

I got the J&J around six months ago and I don't know if I should get a booster or not. So J&J recently states that the first shot is "holding up" better than the mRNAs, and that the shot is still "highly effective," whatever the hell that means. At the same time, J&J still asks the CDC for authorization for boosters. LOL. Now NIH comes out with a study of 600 K vets that's says the "efficacy" (whatever that is, antibodies or T-cells or what have you) of the J&J dropped to a paltry 3%. Wow. So, I've been pumping iron everyday at the gym sans mask for the last 6 months and zippo dippo, no infection. So WTF? Booster or no booster? Unless of course Biden mandates the booster or declares that a single shot of J&J confers an unvaccinated status for air travel etc. Thoughts anyone?

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2617310]I got the J&J around six months ago and I don't know if I should get a booster or not. So J&J recently states that the first shot is "holding up" better than the mRNAs, and that the shot is still "highly effective," whatever the hell that means. At the same time, J&J still asks the CDC for authorization for boosters. LOL. Now NIH comes out with a study of 600 K vets that's says the "efficacy" (whatever that is, antibodies or T-cells or what have you) of the J&J dropped to a paltry 3%. Wow. So, I've been pumping iron everyday at the gym sans mask for the last 6 months and zippo dippo, no infection. So WTF? Booster or no booster? Unless of course Biden mandates the booster or declares that a single shot of J&J confers an unvaccinated status for air travel etc. Thoughts anyone?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't fret. The 3% number doesn't mean anything and J&J is good enough for those reluctant to get the mRNA vaccines. The study to which you refer has limited use because it only reported Positive PCR "breakthrough infections." The PCR is considered the gold standard but in itself doesn't mean much if not clinically correlated. It is overly sensitive for population level use because it shows positive even when you are just shedding viral dna without any clinical signs. This study did not explore anything about these "cases" and goes against every other study that actually does evaluate efficacy by incorporating clinical metrics.

That study which news outlets like CNN irresponsibly reported was not peer reviewed and is destined to be deemed worthless once critiqued. The authors were a bunch of Child Development Epidemiologists (no clinical experience) and had no business putting themselves as the voice of this matter. Besides perhaps some nominal funding which the NIH basically funds all large national level studies, I don't think this study should be labeled an "NIH" study.

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.13.21264966v1.full.pdf[/URL]

On the otherhand, after a second shot, the booster pushes J&J up to 94% efficacy against moderate to severe disease, right up there with 2 doses of the mRNA vaccines. I actually opted for the J&J booster myself after getting the Pfizer.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2617091]I see, you are friendzoned, LOL. So you have no friends.[/QUOTE]Had some really jealous husbands about how long time their wife spent with me and they didn't know all when we were at work. Had to swear to some I didn't have sex with their wife. 2 were mad about divorces when I never asked for divorce even I loved the 2. At least I offered them to become woman and not only mother. I use what I learned with them with WGs and it works good, like yesterday with her words but her body couldn't resist when she felt starting inside of her. Today a princess told me very difficult, I told her to relax, I made her relax and went easy and fast. I love to make cum princesses, my favorite game. As I told a new very fresh full natural 175 model type tonight at Samya Koln, more enjoyable for me than BJ, when I didn't want my girlfriends suck me. She seemed surprised and smiled.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2617302]I don't mean this an an insult but I would think you have Asbergers by the way you rail on things that are not important. People aren't taking what they say seriously on here and don't care if it is true or not. It what people do. I think I am probably undiagnosable. For me it is things like having a very good memory for school work but not having a good working memory for doing something complicated yet common on a cash register for example. I never thought I had it for multiple reasons. One, it was not a thing when I was a child. I imagine they are teaching kids today how not to have the traits. You seem to know them. The friend thing is for me is kinda of like not being able to tolerate them. I don't really feel bad about not having them. I imagine they teach that is bad now. They did not teach me that was bad so I don't always think that is so. I would argue it makes me more manly.[/QUOTE]Nah, I'm just a bully.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2617302]I don't mean this an an insult but I would think you have Asbergers by the way you rail on things that are not important. People aren't taking what they say seriously on here and don't care if it is true or not. It what people do. I think I am probably undiagnosable. For me it is things like having a very good memory for school work but not having a good working memory for doing something complicated yet common on a cash register for example. I never thought I had it for multiple reasons. One, it was not a thing when I was a child. I imagine they are teaching kids today how not to have the traits. You seem to know them. The friend thing is for me is kinda of like not being able to tolerate them. I don't really feel bad about not having them. I imagine they teach that is bad now. They did not teach me that was bad so I don't always think that is so. I would argue it makes me more manly.[/QUOTE]Also, apologies for your social deficiencies. Persevere and stay on the side of the hero archetype. Temper the weirdo inner instinct.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2617391]I use what I learned with them with WGs..[/QUOTE]Ah, I see, you were virgin before you went to prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2617383]I wouldn't fret. The 3% number doesn't mean anything and J&J is good enough for those reluctant to get the mRNA vaccines. The study to which you refer has limited use because it only reported Positive PCR "breakthrough infections." The PCR is considered the gold standard but in itself doesn't mean much if not clinically correlated. It is overly sensitive for population level use because it shows positive even when you are just shedding viral dna without any clinical signs. This study did not explore anything about these "cases" and goes against every other study that actually does evaluate efficacy by incorporating clinical metrics.

That study which news outlets like CNN irresponsibly reported was not peer reviewed and is destined to be deemed worthless once critiqued. The authors were a bunch of Child Development Epidemiologists (no clinical experience) and had no business putting themselves as the voice of this matter. Besides perhaps some nominal funding which the NIH basically funds all large national level studies, I don't think this study should be labeled an "NIH" study.

[URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.13.21264966v1.full.pdf[/URL]

On the otherhand, after a second shot, the booster pushes J&J up to 94% efficacy against moderate to severe disease, right up there with 2 doses of the mRNA vaccines. I actually opted for the J&J booster myself after getting the Pfizer.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that input. It's getting difficult for ordinary chumps like me to separate the wheat from the chaff. Looking forward to getting back in the FKK saddle ASAP, maybe for Karneval? Cheers!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2617502]Ah, I see, you were virgin before you went to prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Yes your so high level Globe learned me sexuality and I love so much when girls look at me with round eyes while I take care of them. I like to make discover G spot to some. What is also funny is what some say about limits and what can happen. Enjoyed on Thursday. At work, very busy, but she can t resist when starting. On Friday, a real elegant princess, not her level of look at your Globe, only shut up when she feels about to cum or when I fill inside of her with my tool, she is a real pleasure to fuck. You learn much better with normal life women than from brothels levels.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2617302]I don't mean this an an insult but I would think you have Asbergers by the way you rail on things that are not important.[/QUOTE]Oh, I think it is far worse than asbergers m8!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2617465]Nah, I'm just a bully.[/QUOTE]At least you try. Got to try and make up for something right?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2617951]At least you try. Got to try and make up for something right?[/QUOTE]Nope. Nothing.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618121]Nothing.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I meant!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2617950]Oh, I think it is far worse than asbergers m8![/QUOTE]Just for your information it's Asperger with a 'p'.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2618170]Just for your information it's Asperger with a 'p'.[/QUOTE]No attention to detail yet not in the position to lead others with a big picture mindset. That's what happens when someone is too mentally weak and lazy to put in real work. He makes no actual sustained investment in himself or others around him and builds up a facade of confidence and arrogance without any measurable results. The dude is the same guy he was 10 years ago without any measurable metrics of self improvement. What a waste of someone's 20's and 30's. No family, no friends, no bankroll, not even anything of material value. Just a bunch of delusions of grandeur backed up by too many Jordan Peterson videos leading to an unwarranted superiority complex. All that with a Frankenstein head and face to boot.

In a other words a school shooter.

I know you know it's just his defence against the realization he's worthless and seen as worthless by others.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618409]No attention to detail yet not in the position to lead others with a big picture mindset. That's what happens when someone is too mentally weak and lazy to put in real work. He makes no actual sustained investment in himself or others around him and builds up a facade of confidence and arrogance without any measurable results. The dude is the same guy he was 10 years ago without any measurable metrics of self improvement. What a waste of someone's 20's and 30's. No family, no friends, no bankroll, not even anything of material value. Just a bunch of delusions of grandeur backed up by too many Jordan Peterson videos leading to an unwarranted superiority complex. All that with a Frankenstein head and face to boot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ararat;2618507]In a other words a school shooter.

I know you know it's just his defence against the realization he's worthless and seen as worthless by others.[/QUOTE]20 years of it since adolescence and I'd imagine he doesn't even realize it. 40 years for the French poet here and it's doubly more rooted.

A little while ago when the Norwegian guy killed 5 dudes with bow and arrows, me and another monger's first instinct was, "did he finally crack?

Are there any requirements to enter these establishments with proof of vaccination status? I only have CDC card, wasn't sure if Germany accepts this as proof? And can one change that to a EU green pass if they wish?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618596]20 years of it since adolescence and I'd imagine he doesn't even realize it. 40 years for the French poet here and it's doubly more rooted.

A little while ago when the Norwegian guy killed 5 dudes with bow and arrows, me and another monger's first instinct was, "did he finally crack?[/QUOTE]But I feel young and powerful in my sports and with tall girls. At 6 sens or my elegant at Sharks are not tall, but like me. I wish to get car repaired soon before snow to finish my Summer ironman tour with double Ventoux with 3200 meters high to climb on the day, then I should have climbed around 35000 meters high and all most difficult highest ranked, before starting ski free ride for Christmas, after 2 years, it will be maximum attack, wish to make beautiful lines.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2618806]But I feel young and powerful in my sports and with tall girls. At 6 sens or my elegant at Sharks are not tall, but like me. I wish to get car repaired soon before snow to finish my Summer ironman tour with double Ventoux with 3200 meters high to climb on the day, then I should have climbed around 35000 meters high and all most difficult highest ranked, before starting ski free ride for Christmas, after 2 years, it will be maximum attack, wish to make beautiful lines.[/QUOTE]Congratulations you missed the point of the insult. Hooray incompetence!

[QUOTE=WF007;2618667]Are there any requirements to enter these establishments with proof of vaccination status? I only have CDC card, wasn't sure if Germany accepts this as proof? And can one change that to a EU green pass if they wish?[/QUOTE]CDC card is good enough in Germany and as far as I know anywhere in the world. Not sure about Green Pass.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618596]A little while ago when the Norwegian guy killed 5 dudes with bow and arrows, me and another monger's first instinct was, "did he finally crack?[/QUOTE]This guy was from Denmark, he only lived in Norway.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618828]Congratulations you missed the point of the insult. Hooray incompetence![/QUOTE]I didn't see you on 2 October, real fact, when I climbed more difficult than LE Chable up to Verbier, and I felt so relax up to legend Mortirolo from Mazzo. Italians seen climbed from the other easiest side.

[QUOTE=WF007;2618667]Are there any requirements to enter these establishments with proof of vaccination status? I only have CDC card, wasn't sure if Germany accepts this as proof? And can one change that to a EU green pass if they wish?[/QUOTE]I work at an airport and I've talked to a lot of people returning from Europe and they all say that us citizens cannot get the green pass.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2619155]This guy was from Denmark, he only lived in Norway.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2619226]I didn't see you on 2 October, real fact, when I climbed more difficult than LE Chable up to Verbier, and I felt so relax up to legend Mortirolo from Mazzo. Italians seen climbed from the other easiest side.[/QUOTE]No relevance and pseudo reality. Sad.

Can someone tell me where I can get an RT-PCR test near Sharks, Oase, or Samya/Mondial?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2619428]Can someone tell me where I can get an RT-PCR test near Sharks, Oase, or Samya/Mondial?[/QUOTE]I used Cenogene at Cologne Bonn Airport and there's another at Frankfurt airport too. [URL]https://www.centogene.com/?id=2808[/URL] A good search will probably find others as I almost went with other providers in Cologne.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2619428]Can someone tell me where I can get an RT-PCR test near Sharks, Oase, or Samya/Mondial?[/QUOTE]You could make fast 5€ test at Sharks or Oase. Not at Samya where you need PCR.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2619428]Can someone tell me where I can get an RT-PCR test near Sharks, Oase, or Samya/Mondial?[/QUOTE]In Darmstadt and Frankfurt there are test centers everywhere, mainly around the main train stations. In Darmstadt there is one across the square from the main station and in Frankfurt there are outside the station on the left-hand side. However, you can also get a rapid test at Sharks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2619428]Can someone tell me where I can get an RT-PCR test near Sharks, Oase, or Samya/Mondial?[/QUOTE]In Darmstadt and Frankfurt there are test centers everywhere, mainly around the main train stations. In Darmstadt there is one across the square from the main station and in Frankfurt there are outside the station on the left-hand side. However, I believe you can also get a rapid test at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618409]No attention to detail yet not in the position to lead others with a big picture mindset. That's what happens when someone is too mentally weak and lazy to put in real work. He makes no actual sustained investment in himself or others around him and builds up a facade of confidence and arrogance without any measurable results. The dude is the same guy he was 10 years ago without any measurable metrics of self improvement. What a waste of someone's 20's and 30's. No family, no friends, no bankroll, not even anything of material value. Just a bunch of delusions of grandeur backed up by too many Jordan Peterson videos leading to an unwarranted superiority complex. All that with a Frankenstein head and face to boot.[/QUOTE]Wrong on all accounts. When it comes to Jordan Peterson, I disagree with about half of what he says and stopped listening to him years ago. His take on religion for example is at best extremely spurious. And he is a retarded (like you) in terms of economics. He also seems deluded in terms of the alpha / beta divide we just discussed here. But he does know a bit about psychology. Clean your room for example! You should start listening to his advise in this regard.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618596]A little while ago when the Norwegian guy killed 5 dudes with bow and arrows, me and another monger's first instinct was, "did he finally crack?[/QUOTE]You mean the Danish guy with the bow? As always, you don't know what you are talking about.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2618828]Congratulations you missed the point of the insult. Hooray incompetence![/QUOTE]You really need other hobbies. Always seemingly so bored.

Close to Mursenary's homeland of origin:

[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7829159/prostitute-orangutan-pony-tragic-story/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619449]You really need other hobbies. Always seemingly so bored.[/QUOTE]For sure not mountains bicycle climbing when he knows nothing about dynamics for speed downhill when some lighter than 70 kgs reach 100 km / h on less steep than my highest ranked climbings. But he can t know when he was never on such steep where I kill my brakes as say service for my bicycle which climbed and downhill on so many, but need somebody to turn legs, great hobby to stay fit powerful, clean lungs and relax mind.

[QUOTE=Dawg90;2619263]I work at an airport and I've talked to a lot of people returning from Europe and they all say that us citizens cannot get the green pass.[/QUOTE]Would you or someone be able to tell me which COVID test is needed for the flight back? I've never took one and hardly know what the abbreviations mean.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2619435]You could make fast 5 test at Sharks or Oase. Not at Samya where you need PCR.[/QUOTE]Sharks and Oase do RT-PCR tests valid for international travel to Thailand? These quick 5 euro tests seem more likely to be antigen tests which are definitely not the same as an RT-PCR test.

Looks like riled up the village weirdos again.

It's like I'm orchestrating my spinoff movie, Revenge of the Dorks: The Wrath of the Outcasts.

Call me maestro.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2619606]Sharks and Oase do RT-PCR tests valid for international travel to Thailand? These quick 5 euro tests seem more likely to be antigen tests which are definitely not the same as an RT-PCR test.[/QUOTE]No, fast test only to enter club. I'm not interested by sex in Thailand. A Thai MILF ex GT at Sharks. Not pretty.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619454]Close

[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7829159/prostitute-orangutan-pony-tragic-story/[/URL][/QUOTE]If real, I mean not one more fake information, really a shame, some are really crazy.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619454]Close to Mursenary's homeland of origin:

[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7829159/prostitute-orangutan-pony-tragic-story/[/URL][/QUOTE]White guy associating black and brown people to monkeys. How commonplace of this social outcast, future school shooter. Save the children!

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2619580]Would you or someone be able to tell me which COVID test is needed for the flight back? I've never took one and hardly know what the abbreviations mean.[/QUOTE]The CDC website was a good source of information. It states the test must be a viral test that is either an antigen test or a NAAT test. It has to include name, one other identifier, date of test, type of test and result.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2619552]For sure not mountains bicycle climbing when he knows nothing about dynamics for speed downhill when some lighter than 70 kgs reach 100 km / h on less steep than my highest ranked climbings. But he can t know when he was never on such steep where I kill my brakes as say service for my bicycle which climbed and downhill on so many, but need somebody to turn legs, great hobby to stay fit powerful, clean lungs and relax mind.[/QUOTE]Well, he doesn't know how to ski nor snowboard either. And even call these sports "what rich white people do" LOL!

In about half the resorts in Europe, you can get a day pass for under 30 euro. For someone going to FKK's that should be a joke.

You can make your own skis if you want, and plenty of places people walk up the hills before descending. But he is totally oblivious to this.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2619643]White guy associating black and brown people to monkeys. How commonplace of this social outcast, future school shooter. Save the children![/QUOTE]Not associating. Just pointing to real life anyhropologically written down facts from Indonesia. Stories similar to this from Indonesia is very common if you know just a tiny bit of anthropology. No need to even try and pull in Africans in all of this. We know you are just trying to make friends here now.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619676]Well, he doesn't know how to ski nor snowboard either. And even call these sports "what rich white people do" LOL!

In about half the resorts in Europe, you can get a day pass for under 30 euro. For someone going to FKK's that should be a joke.

You can make your own skis if you want, and plenty of places people walk up the hills before descending. But he is totally oblivious to this.[/QUOTE]This is not a problem not to be able to climb Zoncolan, nor to free ride Mont Gelé or on Bec des Rosses side, or narrow spots between rocks above Chancel lake in la Grave la Meije, but to claim to be able when showing having no knowledge when you learn experiencing on field, not on internet. After 2 years without ski, if snow, I will run to isolated spots through closed lines for my usual Christmas except on 2020, I don't worry about technique, I already made my mind ready when watching Solden Worldcup start for technique, but about ability to read not prepared snow where can have rocks or crevaces hidden below. Level and knowledge you need to stay alive as long as possible and lucky when I started free riding more than 30 years ago, running more and more extreme spots, where You can t see below you in Chancel spots, you have to decide if you go without knowing if you can pass, if not, then having to learn to fly over rocks and wishing snow won t put you in washing machine under snow. But great adrenaline, my drug I need. Look forward and wish for snow, when despite risks, but I feel attracted, I can t resist to such adrenaline, for my best Christmas.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619448]You mean the Danish guy with the bow? As always, you don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PumDiPum;2619155]This guy was from Denmark, he only lived in Norway.[/QUOTE]We mean the guy who grew up in Norway with a Norwegian dad. I understand why Norwegians want to emphasize his Danish mother but this guy is Norwegian.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2619438]In Darmstadt and Frankfurt there are test centers everywhere, mainly around the main train stations. In Darmstadt there is one across the square from the main station and in Frankfurt there are outside the station on the left-hand side. However, I believe you can also get a rapid test at Sharks.[/QUOTE]How much are they charging for the tests with printouts now? They are no longer free since October 15.

And if you don't trust in The Sun newspaper. At least you should listen to what is reported in The Independent from Singapore:

[URL]https://theindependent.sg/sex-slave-orangutans-of-indonesia-may-be-the-epitome-of-human-cruelty/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2619710]This is not a problem not to be able to climb Zoncolan, nor to free ride Mont Gel or on Bec des Rosses side, or narrow spots between rocks above Chancel lake in la Grave la Meije, but to claim to be able when showing having no knowledge when you learn experiencing on field, not on internet. After 2 years without ski, if snow, I will run to isolated spots through closed lines for my usual Christmas except on 2020, I don't worry about technique, I already made my mind ready when watching Solden Worldcup start for technique, but about ability to read not prepared snow where can have rocks or crevaces hidden below. Level and knowledge you need to stay alive as long as possible and lucky when I started free riding more than 30 years ago, running more and more extreme spots, where You can t see below you in Chancel spots, you have to decide if you go without knowing if you can pass, if not, then having to learn to fly over rocks and wishing snow won t put you in washing machine under snow. But great adrenaline, my drug I need. Look forward and wish for snow, when despite risks, but I feel attracted, I can t resist to such adrenaline, for my best Christmas.[/QUOTE]I learnt to ski when I was 3 years old. Didn't ride with a lift before I was 8 or 9. Then snowboard when I was 13 or so. After that back and forth depending on the lift system and snow conditions.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2619836]We mean the guy who grew up in Norway with a Norwegian dad. I understand why Norwegians want to emphasize his Danish mother but this guy is Norwegian.[/QUOTE]Danish citizenship.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2619836]We mean the guy who grew up in Norway with a Norwegian dad. I understand why Norwegians want to emphasize his Danish mother but this guy is Norwegian.[/QUOTE]But we can agree that he was an outcast. Born in one country with heritage from another. Just like another guy here on ISG.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2619623]No, fast test only to enter club. I'm not interested by sex in Thailand. A Thai MILF ex GT at Sharks. Not pretty.[/QUOTE]My original question was asking where to get a RT-PCR test, not an antigen test. Why respond on something the OP didn't ask about?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619924]But we can agree that he was an outcast. Born in one country with heritage from another. Just like another guy here on ISG.[/QUOTE]Add xenophobia to the list if ref flags.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619922]Danish citizenship.[/QUOTE]LOL, even more hypocrisy. Stresses citizenship as defining characteristic when it suits him. Stresses birthplace when it suits him. Dude stands for nothing.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619906]I learnt to ski when I was 3 years old. Didn't ride with a lift before I was 8 or 9. Then snowboard when I was 13 or so. After that back and forth depending on the lift system and snow conditions.[/QUOTE]Picturing Frankenstein on skis. What a sight!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2619906]I learnt to ski when I was 3 years old. Didn't ride with a lift before I was 8 or 9. Then snowboard when I was 13 or so. After that back and forth depending on the lift system and snow conditions.[/QUOTE]2 first Winter I didn't ski, only 2 days on Christmas 2019 but not enough snow, kicking skis in rocks, since my parents made me start when I was not 3 yet. I didn't like because had cold feet and later I sometimes skied topless on March / April at more than 2000 meters high. Also skied when minus 35, didn't feel my nose, ears and lips, couldn't speak. Really look forward Christmas, wish for snow but not before Ventoux, I don't want they close above 2 chalets.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2619970]LOL, even more hypocrisy. Stresses citizenship as defining characteristic when it suits him. Stresses birthplace when it suits him. Dude stands for nothing.[/QUOTE]His mom is Danish. Your mom is Thai Same thing.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2619973]Picturing Frankenstein on skis. What a sight![/QUOTE]It is known as nightmares when you are scared of getting injured. Weak scared pussy. While I fly down the hills in 100 kmph and jump 50 meters on the best bumps. Or do 360's or a backwards salto. Or make long turns in the powder outside the slopes. Too bad the Austrian and Italian alps are not the best for powder. At least aside from Austrian Tyroler alps.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2619955]My original question was asking where to get a RT-PCR test, not an antigen test. Why respond on something the OP didn't ask about?[/QUOTE]Just tried to help if you wanted to visit Sharks, Oase, when Samya or Mondial need PCR, when clubs are topic here, but my mistake to waste my time. But I confirm: yesterday I saw still fast 5€ test if You need, to visit Sharks.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2620173]It is known as nightmares when you are scared of getting injured. Weak scared pussy. While I fly down the hills in 100 kmph and jump 50 meters on the best bumps. Or do 360's or a backwards salto. Or make long turns in the powder outside the slopes. Too bad the Austrian and Italian alps are not the best for powder. At least aside from Austrian Tyroler alps.[/QUOTE]LOL, here comes the next superman. Now him and the delusional one can duke it out who is inventing most BS.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2620173]It is known as nightmares when you are scared of getting injured. Weak scared pussy. While I fly down the hills in 100 kmph and jump 50 meters on the best bumps. Or do 360's or a backwards salto. Or make long turns in the powder outside the slopes. Too bad the Austrian and Italian alps are not the best for powder. At least aside from Austrian Tyroler alps.[/QUOTE]Free ride paradise known all over the world by specialists is la Grave la Meije, even not anymore linked with 2 Alps because Alp Huez bought lift, but I don't care when I'm able to push for hours to cross 3500 meters high Girose glacier between. You can make a non stop run starting from 3500 down to 1450 high. La Grave for the puff and Verbier for extreme spots, even the most extreme for me are in la Grave for narrow very steep corridors above Chancel lake where you don't see what is below in the steep, at least you are not scared because you can't see danger, just surprise. When you arrive at bottom, you feel so alive and full of adrenaline. This without helmet, ARVA and mountains tools. As say staff: we don't want to send our staff for you there. I love this sport, when I brake when I don't feel anymore grip under narrow tires on bicycle, faster than 60, I feel like I will fly, when so long straight line down Ventoux to Malaucene to speed. Down most of my highest ranked, when I m really not the fastest for this, but we are faster than almost all cars on narrow curvy road.

Hopefully more people like this stand up and end this bullshit.

[URL]https://youtu.be/GCg1mGOgj-w[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2620300]Free ride paradise known all over the world by specialists is la Grave la Meije, even not anymore linked with 2 Alps because Alp Huez bought lift, but I don't care when I'm able to push for hours to cross 3500 meters high Girose glacier between. You can make a non stop run starting from 3500 down to 1450 high. La Grave for the puff and Verbier for extreme spots, even the most extreme for me are in la Grave for narrow very steep corridors above Chancel lake where you don't see what is below in the steep, at least you are not scared because you can't see danger, just surprise. When you arrive at bottom, you feel so alive and full of adrenaline. This without helmet, ARVA and mountains tools. As say staff: we don't want to send our staff for you there. I love this sport, when I brake when I don't feel anymore grip under narrow tires on bicycle, faster than 60, I feel like I will fly, when so long straight line down Ventoux to Malaucene to speed. Down most of my highest ranked, when I m really not the fastest for this, but we are faster than almost all cars on narrow curvy road.[/QUOTE]But that's France. No FKKs.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2620273]LOL, here comes the next superman. Now him and the delusional one can duke it out who is inventing most BS.[/QUOTE]Funny that you mention this. At La Grave where Sirioja just posted about there is a costume race every year, and there is always one or two guys dressed up as Superman. I've never been to the French alps, but you can find videos from these races on youtube if you search for Derby de la meije.

What I wrote here is just average though. ID estimate maybe half of all Norwegian guys would easily do what I wrote. I didn't even try exaggeration. It was like stating that I could ride a bicycle pretty much.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2620169]His mom is Danish. Your mom is Thai Same thing.[/QUOTE]So you you think matriarchal identity supersedes patriarchal models. Wet Ass Pussy.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2620273]LOL, here comes the next superman. Now him and the delusional one can duke it out who is inventing most BS.[/QUOTE]I've been saying for a while. They are the same people, 20 years and 20 cm apart.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2620350]But that's France. No FKKs.[/QUOTE]If you discover la Grave, best is to go on next day after snowing, for fresh puff to make own lines, then more kick in eyes than 100 naked girls in a brothel. Yes, no FKK in France, but taking all my time for breakfast, taking lift at 11 am, being on Girose glacier 3500 at noon, crossing with no lift to make a bit of sport and oxygen, to 2 Alps, going down small and big devils there, then up to Girose, crossing back pushing again when harder to go back to la Grave, then 1 minute to breathe deeply fresh air and down between crevaces on Girose at start before the truth moment of the day: life or death, you just have to choose your corridor above Chancel lake. If you succeed to reach the bottom, then down to la Grave at around 4.30 pm with stars in eyes after a rare day, used to be my best birthday present since 2004 a job mate told me when seeing me skiing, free rider warrior he named me. Then I went and discovered spots by myself, reading snow. Feeling like my home, when I love so much, snow can only take care and protect me. Same feeling at Verbier. Look forward for 2022 when last was on 2019 for both, but crevaces and rocks don t move. I never tried because I prefer to look at la Meije glacier or go to drive on snow in Lautaret, but if I throw Neo and shoes in car at 4.30 pm at la Grave, I can easily have diner at Globe, have a very warm jacuzzi to asleep pain in back and relax legs and I let You imagine, if I was able to find a attractive, when full of adrenaline and oxygen, about blood pressure in tool. But no FKK can compete with such exceptional spots and same on Summer. My weekly regular girls for many months or years always knew they couldn't compete. La Grave is for lines in virgin snow, not on Derby on beginning of April of course. Verbier is for adrenaline through rocks. Different pleasures, but wish to enjoy both again and as long my old legs and knees will be able, when have to press a lot in Verbier. Tortin is easy, Mont Fort speed ski line under lift is steep, but Mont Gelé on Verbier side, or Bec des Rosses side between Mont Fort are other level for extreme. Same than Zoncolan or Mortirolo climbings. So many good days I got in these places on Winter or Summer. Around Saint Anton Austria may worth for free ride and must be FKK not so far in small Austria.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2620414]So you you think matriarchal identity supersedes patriarchal models. Wet Ass Pussy.[/QUOTE]For betas, sure.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2620484]If you discover la Grave, best is to go on next day after snowing, for fresh puff to make own lines, then more kick in eyes than 100 naked girls in a brothel. Yes, no FKK in France, but taking all my time for breakfast, taking lift at 11 am, being on Girose glacier 3500 at noon, crossing with no lift to make a bit of sport and oxygen, to 2 Alps, going down small and big devils there, then up to Girose, crossing back pushing again when harder to go back to la Grave, then 1 minute to breathe deeply fresh air and down between crevaces on Girose at start before the truth moment of the day: life or death, you just have to choose your corridor above Chancel lake. If you succeed to reach the bottom, then down to la Grave at around 4.30 pm with stars in eyes after a rare day, used to be my best birthday present since 2004 a job mate told me when seeing me skiing, free rider warrior he named me. Then I went and discovered spots by myself, reading snow. Feeling like my home, when I love so much, snow can only take care and protect me. Same feeling at Verbier. Look forward for 2022 when last was on 2019 for both, but crevaces and rocks don t move. I never tried because I prefer to look at la Meije glacier or go to drive on snow in Lautaret, but if I throw Neo and shoes in car at 4.30 pm at la Grave, I can easily have diner at Globe, have a very warm jacuzzi to asleep pain in back and relax legs and I let You imagine, if I was able to find a attractive, when full of adrenaline and oxygen, about blood pressure in tool..[/QUOTE]I probably won't visit La Grave unless they fix that old lift comming from 2 alps. I met a guy at an FKK who had worked at 2 alps as a police, so he told me good things about it. But I'm not going to drag my skis or snowboard 2 km just for one run down. Verbier looks better, and is actually very popular among the rich norwegian crowds the nurse complains about too. But Globe has too many tall girls, so they need to fix that first at the very least! Since I like them short! So I will stick to Austria and maybe the occational visit to italian dolomites. Kronplatz was terrific! Especially the short, but almost armani tailor made Piculin run at the far side of the resort. Voted best black run in the world twice by skiresort. De. Then there is the 2/2 are run as well, which will give you leg burn and is used in continental cup competitions. Or the bumpy nice 7/27/28 runs down to the resturant where you can make some nice jumps if you have speed. I do like off piste maybe more, but in general I have to admit Norway is better than Austria or Italy for that. Colorado (Snowmass etc) and Japan is even better. But Ischgl is decent! The best in the FKK area for me. So I will mix that one up with Circolo Passion this winter I think.

Here is from Piculin at Kronplatz:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUGo2B_o-O8[/URL]

The good thing about this run is that you barely use any energy running it, and the gondola back up has virtually 0 queue. Plus it is a very fast gondola, and since it is at the far edge of the lift system, hardly anyone is there to ruin the run either.

Tignes does look good for off piste. Or if you are rich, helicopter runs in Saas Fee. But neighter has the trees you find in Japan, Colorado and a few places in Norway. At least what are allowed to ski in. Silly laws.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2620577]For betas, sure.[/QUOTE]It was you that established that the Norwegian guy was Danish because his mom is Danish.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2620720]I probably won't visit La Grave unless they fix that old lift comming from 2 alps. I met a guy at an FKK who had worked at 2 alps as a police, so he told me good things about it. But I'm not going to drag my skis or snowboard 2 km just for one run down. Verbier looks better, and is actually very popular among the rich norwegian crowds the nurse complains about too. But Globe has too many tall girls, so they need to fix that first at the very least! Since I like them short! So I will stick to Austria and maybe the occational visit to italian dolomites. Kronplatz was terrific! Especially the short, but almost armani tailor made Piculin run at the far side of the resort. Voted best black run in the world twice by skiresort. De. Then there is the 2/2 are run as well, which will give you leg burn and is used in continental cup competitions. Or the bumpy nice 7/27/28 runs down to the resturant where you can make some nice jumps if you have speed. I do like off piste maybe more, but in general I have to admit Norway is better than Austria or Italy for that. Colorado (Snowmass etc) and Japan is even better. But Ischgl is decent! The best in the FKK area for me. So I will mix that one up with Circolo Passion this winter I think..[/QUOTE]Don't believe guys in brothels: Between la Grave and 2 Alps is Girose glacier 3500 meters high. I discovered only on 2004 when I was advised by a friend at work, we met few times for skiing, having good runs in Alp Huez and after he saw me climbing on Summer. There was never any lift on Girose glacier other than on 2 Alps part and I m pretty sure I will never see any, even 2 Alps would buy la Grave lifts. Until about 2016, there was only ratrack machine which pulled You between the 2, same like still on top of la Grave. I don't use the one on top of la Grave, sometimes they even stop to ask if I need but I prefer to push for around 15 mn to warm up for pushing about 2 hours to cross and back Girose glacier, good sport at 3500 meters high and since no more machine pulling, I don t see many crossing now, not seeing many marks, my private new playfield. La Grave lift is often closed for Christmas but if good weather because better to read snow when no safety there, I will be alone only with my knowledge about snow for more than 1 hour, but I would be really happy to cross and back from 2 Alps glacier for my Christmas present, when I miss so much since 2 Winter. Great sport. Don t also believe Globe profiles, they must give height on heels when I always tell about height bare feet or I would say my 10 rooms supermodel at Sharks is as tall as Michael Jordan. Globe superstar Sofia. De ex Artemis, she put silicon between, told me very honestly when we were under shower together after room, she is 171 or 172, I don't remember exactly between her and Megan, but never 178 like written on her profile and many Romanians or Lana. De ex GT who are written around 170 are around 160 bare feet in real. But I won t run now to Globe, because I find more fresh and elegant looks in Germany or even a Romanian at 6 sens, with higher level in bed than most of Globe girls, better than Lana. De, for much less expensive, many for 100/60 and we were twice over the hour with elegant at 6 sens, we were also with elegant at Sharks but both didn't ask for more, maybe their orgasmus paid for a bit over time. Verbier worth for me for Mont Gelé and Mont Fort / Bec des Rosses, for really extreme for adrenaline but I make all extreme from 10.30 am to 5 pm arriving at 1550 high throwing Neo in car and leaving. Also a good sporty day. Need snow to be really hard solid not to go below You in very steep, why they organize free ride on end of March. Same like for bicycle, my Scott Neo are 2011 model but no other ski have such shape for puff, being light helping same than for crevaces and sharp curves performances so I make them repaired and in both business, we know the guy is more important than material, just have to have reliable and adapted material and then the guy will make the difference. Just wish I can climb 2 Ventoux soon before snow on top, to finish my wonderful Summer tour, always Summer in Malaucene and Bedoin, but I climbed twice on ice just before chalets.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2620726]Tignes does look good for off piste. Or if you are rich, helicopter runs in Saas Fee. But neighter has the trees you find in Japan, Colorado and a few places in Norway. At least what are allowed to ski in. Silly laws.[/QUOTE]Of course Tignes from the bottom of la Sache Brevieres up to Pissaia Iseran Glacier on top of Val the Isere then free riding through Pers pass down to the river and Fornet worth a lot, better not to fall in river, some snow bridges but have to be very careful. Good puff usually there, wish also for Christmas for Tignes. No need for helicopter for Saas Fee Allalin where I learned most of my ski between 9 and 14 . Swiss are great skiers. I m pretty sure good spots for free ride also in Dolomiti I love so much, my home for Summer. Also in Austria like around Saint Anton. Wish this pleasure will come soon after 2 so bad frustrating last Winter. Wish for no covid clusters like at Wengen on last January, cancelling Lauberhorn Worldcup, when many tourists will come.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2620757]It was you that established that the Norwegian guy was Danish because his mom is Danish.[/QUOTE]He wanted to be Danish. Given his choice of citizenship. You really need the teaspoon right?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2621057]He wanted to be Danish. Given his choice of citizenship. You really need the teaspoon right?[/QUOTE]Does not recognize a guy born in Norway who lived his entire life in Norway while being born to a Norwegian father as Norwegian because "that guy chose Danish citizenship."

Yet labels a guy who chose US citizenship, living the near entirety of his life in the US, but has a couple generations of ancestral roots in SE Asia as a SE Asian.

Following this dude's logical process is like watching the path of the ball on Atari Pong. Bing-Bing-Bong-Bing-Bang-Bong. Try and maintain a cohesive stream of consciousness retard.

Haven't looked at global numbers in a while but just noticed that Romania has had the most deaths / capita for 10 days in a row now. Can't say I'm surprised considering the conversations I've had with the girls regarding vaccine and covid conspiracy theories. Sad for them as obviously it's not just the 20 something year old working girls who think that way. Their death rate correlate to their low vax rates and the same trend is seen throughout that region of Eastern of Europe and the Balkan countries. All those sick mom and dad stories they've been selling to sucker the dudes may finally be true.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?tab=table&zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-10-23..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed&country=~OWID_WRL[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ararat;2620757]It was you that established that the Norwegian guy was Danish because his mom is Danish.[/QUOTE]Norwegian was behind a 2011 lone wolf attack that killed 77 and injured 309. This article raises some points, and I think it's relevance extends far beyond Norway:

[QUOTE]The attack on Wednesday has prompted debates across Norway about how to deal with mentally unstable people who might pose a threat to others.

Its the million-dollar question, said Arne Christian Haugstoyl, the head of Norways counterterrorism unit at the Police Security Service. I think there will be an important debate in Norway about what we can do about people who are severely mentally ill.

This is not just a problem in Norway, Mr. Haugstoyl said. All security services all over the world, even the largest ones, struggle to stop this type of attack, because there are few preparations, not much communication, and little information for a security organization to monitor.

Norways new prime minister, Jonas Gahr Store, who visited Kongsberg last week, said that modern societies are vulnerable to such attacks.

And in some ways we just have to live with vulnerability, Mr. Store said in an interview with The New York Times. [b]Vulnerability comes from people falling out of community, and this is a phenomenon that we really need to study and address.[/b]..[/QUOTE]

Despite sputnik Vladimir, Russia have 200.000 deaths, Russians not trusting Putin, and low vaccination rate.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2620414]So you you think matriarchal identity supersedes patriarchal models. Wet Ass Pussy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2620577]For betas, sure.[/QUOTE]LOL, according to his own logic, he comes from a country of betas.

[QUOTE]Not all children who are born in Norway become Norwegian citizens
In this country, not all children who are born in Norway automatically become Norwegian citizens.

Children with a Norwegian mother or father:

[b]If your father was Norwegian, but he was not married to your mother, you did not automatically become a Norwegian citizen. [/b]

[url]https://www.udi.no/en/word-definitions/norwegian-by-birth/#link-538[/url]..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2621505]Norwegian was behind a 2011 lone wolf attack that killed 77 and injured 309. This article raises some points, and I think it's relevance extends far beyond Norway:[/QUOTE]This makes more sense of the recent media publications. They were oddly quick to point that he was a Danish citizen despite being Norwegian in every way. But even that was just a technicality because Norway denied citizenship to children with a Norwegian father and a foreign mother if they were unmarried. Probably had something to do with the the fact that their Viking ancestors had a tendency to impregnate unwilling women when they pillaged villages. What a bastard country. Pun intended.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2621501]Haven't looked at global numbers in a while but just noticed that Romania has had the most deaths / capita for 10 days in a row now. Can't say I'm surprised considering the conversations I've had with the girls regarding vaccine and covid conspiracy theories. Sad for them as obviously it's not just the 20 something year old working girls who think that way. Their death rate correlate to their low vax rates and the same trend is seen throughout that region of Eastern of Europe and the Balkan countries. All those sick mom and dad stories they've been selling to sucker the dudes may finally be true.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?tab=table&zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-10-23..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed&country=~OWID_WRL[/URL][/QUOTE]Russia have more than 1000 deaths daily since weeks when sputnik Vladimir but they don t trust him. Same for Romanians who don t trust their politics. But some WGs get vaccinated at work, like Sharks do. In our world, we fear covid and for our economy and way of life, but I can't not tell about Afghanistan Taliban's where they sell their 9/10 yo girls to old men to buy foods, shame for whole world.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2621160]Does not recognize a guy born in Norway who lived his entire life in Norway while being born to a Norwegian father as Norwegian because "that guy chose Danish citizenship."

Yet labels a guy who chose US citizenship, living the near entirety of his life in the US, but has a couple generations of ancestral roots in SE Asia as a SE Asian.

Following this dude's logical process is like watching the path of the ball on Atari Pong. Bing-Bing-Bong-Bing-Bang-Bong. Try and maintain a cohesive stream of consciousness retard.[/QUOTE]Aloy of people also go after money.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2621501]Haven't looked at global numbers in a while but just noticed that Romania has had the most deaths / capita for 10 days in a row now. Can't say I'm surprised considering the conversations I've had with the girls regarding vaccine and covid conspiracy theories. Sad for them as obviously it's not just the 20 something year old working girls who think that way. Their death rate correlate to their low vax rates and the same trend is seen throughout that region of Eastern of Europe and the Balkan countries. All those sick mom and dad stories they've been selling to sucker the dudes may finally be true.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?tab=table&zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-10-23..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed&country=~OWID_WRL[/URL][/QUOTE]And at the end, resort to a conspiracy of his own.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2621505]Norwegian was behind a 2011 lone wolf attack that killed 77 and injured 309. This article raises some points, and I think it's relevance extends far beyond Norway:[/QUOTE]True, and it shows the extent this can have if a Norwegian wants to do terror. As it is the only time it has happened. When terrorist in other countries try, they just get a few victims and then it's over.

But in terms of school shootings as the nurse ovennevnte this topic with, Finland is on top in number of cases in Europe. While USA is far far ahead even per capita.

Then again, these things are soon a thing of the past given how new technology let's spytech look through your eyes.

[URL]https://youtu.be/iYOZ_NIYwmo[/URL]

It is a bit unfortunate how the world turns, and terror is one part of it. Another part of it is the widening economic gap across the world. And then you have crime and corruption which can also spark terror. Even the police state itself can spawn terror.

My personal view is that the only thing which can resolve the problem of terror is full transparency. But then the world also has to get rid of religion especially, and maybe also disease. And given the transparency aspect and abolishment of religion, there wouldn't be any reason left to abolish p6 for example. So here on ISG we can potentially rejoice.

For people who've done the Germany digital entry forms. Am I right in my understanding that you don't need to bother with one if you're just there for a day trip of less than 24 hours? Sorry if this is wrong place to ask this?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2621631]Russia have more than 1000 deaths daily since weeks when sputnik Vladimir but they don t trust him. Same for Romanians who don t trust their politics. But some WGs get vaccinated at work, like Sharks do. In our world, we fear covid and for our economy and way of life, but I can't not tell about Afghanistan Taliban's where they sell their 9/10 yo girls to old men to buy foods, shame for whole world.[/QUOTE]Why would the FKK German forum care about Russia and especially when they don't have the most per capita, math.

[QUOTE=Jordan95;2621863]For people who've done the Germany digital entry forms. Am I right in my understanding that you don't need to bother with one if you're just there for a day trip of less than 24 hours? Sorry if this is wrong place to ask this?[/QUOTE]I was actually wondering about the same regarding UK as I might need a transit there. Hard to find info.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2621872]Why would the FKK German forum care about Russia and especially when they don't have the most per capita, math.[/QUOTE]Same as I care about shameful Taliban's Afghanistan selling girls to old men. Russia is down under covid when Russians don't trust Putin vaccine. Not Winter yet, but covid is at its highest since start in Romania where not high vaccinated rate and Cz seem also to follow for covid growing when not cold yet in EU. Since covid start, difficult for Russians to go out of Russia.

This is very bad news. Very bad news indeed, and largely a crisis of the unvaccinated:

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2021-11-04/germany-reports-record-number-of-new-coronavirus-cases[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2621657]And at the end, resort to a conspiracy of his own.[/QUOTE]You don't seem to understand the definition of conspiracy theory weather girl.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2622077]This is very bad news. Very bad news indeed, and largely a crisis of the unvaccinated:

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2021-11-04/germany-reports-record-number-of-new-coronavirus-cases[/URL][/QUOTE]Wouldn't worry much. Germany is well m-vaccinated and the last wave resulted in much less hospitalizations and deaths. It seems that western governments have appropriately transitioned into looking at the latter to guide policy. This winter should be a test of where we stand on this thing becoming endemic.

UK has had sustained high positive rates since July but hospitalizations and deaths remain relative stable.

Low vax nations such as Romania and Bulgaria however are getting slaughtered. That is my more my worry. If more girls are not allowed to move freely to supply the scene, especially new girls, then they remain in the position of power of demand.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622173]Wouldn't worry much. UK has had sustained high positive rates since July but hospitalizations and deaths remain relative stable. This winter should be a test of where we stand on this thing becoming endemic.[/QUOTE]This isn't just high positive rates. The article says that [B]the rate is the highest since the pandemic began[/B]. And we aren't even into the winter months yet! That's definitely something to worry about in my books. The trend is woefully in the wrong direction, and if it worsens, I can see new restrictions being placed upon people (including upon the owners / patrons of the FKK sex clubs that they always like to pick on).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2622077]This is very bad news. Very bad news indeed, and largely a crisis of the unvaccinated:

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2021-11-04/germany-reports-record-number-of-new-coronavirus-cases[/URL][/QUOTE]In Western EU, 4th wave was on this Summer under delta, now with figures increasing, maybe 5th wave for Christmas, when I want to go to ski.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2622077]This is very bad news. Very bad news indeed, and largely a crisis of the unvaccinated:

[URL]https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2021-11-04/germany-reports-record-number-of-new-coronavirus-cases[/URL][/QUOTE]As for Tokyo it is like 20 to 30 new infections per day now for like past few weeks, so it seems it is near the end, but we are staying put and 99% people are still wearing mask! Like we have been saying from day 1, masks works if all wear them! Which west hate to do! Vaccination is done almost 80% now, other 20 % are mostly childs and people like me who refused to be vaccinated LOL!

If the situation is like this next summer, I am getting my shots in June or so LOL.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2622231]This isn't just high positive rates. The article says that [B]the rate is the highest since the pandemic began[/B]. And we aren't even into the winter months yet! That's definitely something to worry about in my books. The trend is woefully in the wrong direction, and if it worsens, I can see new restrictions being placed upon people (including upon the owners / patrons of the FKK sex clubs that they always like to pick on).[/QUOTE](It's obviously a 4th wave of cases as you accurately mentioned).

I mean, you can certainly worry but it's certainly not the highest number of cases Germany has seen (See December and April peak cases in attached graph). Reading the wording of your article, perhaps Spahn meant the highest increase in cases within an arbitrarily referenced time period?

Regardless, even if it is not the highest cases, cases are high, yes. But case numbers are pretty meaningless if there is not a corresponding increase in disease severity that makes those increase in cases a threat to public health. Local [B]authorities have been using hospitalizations and deaths to determine policy[/B] since late summer / early autumn. Cases in Germany have been elevated since August / September and is seeing another bump on top of that. [B]But despite September's bump in cases, there was not a corresponding significant bump in deaths and hospitalizations[/B] (see other attached graph). This is why authorities (with the exception of a brief period in NRW) did not reinstitute restrictions in September / October. The possibility is of course there, but I wouldn't bet on all-out catastrophe. Germany boasts a 66% fully vax population with even more having had at least one shot and more at-risk populations getting boosters. As a population, they are well protected from severe disease. Meanwhile, the unvaxxed benefit from a lower chance of running into someone carrying a high viral load as that determines both transmissibility and disease severity.

And as mentioned, the UK has seen these high cases for an even longer period than Germany. Much like Germany now, case numbers are about 80% of last winter's peaks. But as you can see in the attached images, disease severity leading to hospitalization and death has not kept up with case numbers. This is not the same scenario as one year ago. The population is now more equipped to deal with the spread of virus. But as I mentioned previously, this is not the case in Eastern Europe (20-40% vax rate) from where the working girls are coming, hence why I am more concerned with cases / deaths in those countries. Those fuckers have been fucking around but now that Romania boasts both the highest cases and deaths per capita in the world, those fuckers won't be fucking around for much longer.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2622239]In Western EU, 4th wave was on this Summer under delta, now with figures increasing, maybe 5th wave for Christmas, when I want to go to ski.[/QUOTE]Under increasing when not cold yet, land of freedom US will make compulsory for 4 January vaccine when working in more than 100 employees companies and even in Texas, when only 30% chose to vaccinate in Putin Russia. Pfizer may be better for business than Vladimir. When they sell also third dose now in Western EU.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622291](It's obviously a 4th wave of cases as you accurately mentioned).

I mean, you can certainly worry but it's certainly not the highest number of cases Germany has seen (See December and April peak cases in attached graph). Reading the wording of your article, perhaps Spahn meant the highest increase in cases within an arbitrarily referenced time period?

Regardless, even if it is not the highest cases, cases are high, yes. But case numbers are pretty meaningless if there is not a corresponding increase in disease severity that makes those increase in cases a threat to public health. Local [B]authorities have been using hospitalizations and deaths to determine policy[/B] since late summer / early autumn. Cases in Germany have been elevated since August / September and is seeing another bump on top of that. [B]But despite September's bump in cases, there was not a corresponding significant bump in deaths and hospitalizations[/B] (see other attached graph). This is why authorities (with the exception of a brief period in NRW) did not reinstitute restrictions in September / October. The possibility is of course there, but I wouldn't bet on all-out catastrophe. Germany boasts a 66% fully vax population with even more having had at least one shot and more at-risk populations getting boosters. As a population, they are well protected from severe disease. Meanwhile, the unvaxxed benefit from a lower chance of running into someone carrying a high viral load as that determines both transmissibility and disease severity..[/QUOTE]What's you take on Covid situations now in California vs. Florida?

The World Health Organization opines on the matter:

[URL]https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20211104-covid-cases-hit-new-record-in-germany-as-who-warns-of-spread-in-europe[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/german-covid-19-cases-hit-daily-record-health-ministers-meet-2021-11-04/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622091]You don't seem to understand the definition of conspiracy theory weather girl.[/QUOTE]Oh, but I do. And it is very very subjective.

Lets dissect the word: conspiracy-theory.

When someone is conspiring, that means they are collaborating on a common narrative without telling a third party.

The use of the word theory here means that you have yet to prove that this is the case.

If a lot of people, say in Thailand have a book where scam tactics are written down, which they hide from foreign p6 tourists, this is then a conspiracy-theory until you actually find this book and read it for yourself. I have read the book. But unless you have, it may still be a theory for you given your lack of trust in me. And the fact that you think girls use a common narrative.

A large amount of human thought are conspiracy theories at it's core. Usually the subject will define (frame) their thoughts and ideas as an analysis, an assumption, an hypothesis or just a theory instead. But it is a rhetorically negatively framed word. Hence it's use cases in order to derail.

In essence, it is a collateral of the propaganda industry, meant to confuse. Why? Because humans conspire all the time. We call it (framed it as) a plan, a strategy, an agenda etc.

In a football match, the coach want to keep their free kick tactics a secret. The opposing side might feel something is off the standard approach. Do they react? Have the opposing team conspired on something different before the match? Or at half time? Without the theory of this conspiracy, they may lose.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2622239]In Western EU, 4th wave was on this Summer under delta, now with figures increasing, maybe 5th wave for Christmas, when I want to go to ski.[/QUOTE]Stay home, do not meet people and wear mask, it is that simple LOL!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2622410]What's you take on Covid situations now in California vs. Florida?[/QUOTE]Florida, my tax state, half the population, and nearly as many deaths. But we sure had a good time being [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. Both states on the downtrend.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2622410]What's you take on Covid situations now in California vs. Florida?[/QUOTE]Both suffered from large populations that didn't take precautions. Mexican immigrants and desert people in CA. Latino, black population in FL plus the swamp people.

Florida, my property tax state, half the population, and nearly as many deaths. But we sure had a good time being [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].

Both states on the downtrend.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2622454]The World Health Organization opines on the matter:

[URL]https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20211104-covid-cases-hit-new-record-in-germany-as-who-warns-of-spread-in-europe[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/german-covid-19-cases-hit-daily-record-health-ministers-meet-2021-11-04/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm not an anti-trust-the-experts guy and am only one man. I've been wrong before but obviously so have they. Just saying that recent trends in extremely high cases have not produced the healthcare system burden that last winter waves did, exemplified by the same type of numbers seen in the UK for several months now. Basic math will surely produce some uptick in healthcare burden for sure, but to what degree? I'm heavily leaning on the prediction that we won't see what we saw in winter 2020-2021. Willing to put a substantial wager on the situation in Germany (and much of western Europe) being something like what the world saw in the bad flu season of 2017-2018. By making these declarations, I'm hoping that WHO is just abiding by the overly use mantra of exercising "an abundance of caution. ". Going on 2 years now, it would be rational to expect that local authorities are willing to be a bit more liberal of accepting a reasonable amount of endemic disease as to not derail this slow economic recovery back to some semblance of normalcy.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2622454]The World Health Organization opines on the matter:

[URL]https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20211104-covid-cases-hit-new-record-in-germany-as-who-warns-of-spread-in-europe[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/german-covid-19-cases-hit-daily-record-health-ministers-meet-2021-11-04/[/URL][/QUOTE]One addendum per reuters article:

[QUOTE]The daily number of cases was likely inflated by a public holiday in parts of Germany on Monday that led to a delay in data-gathering. The previous record was on Dec. 18, with 33,777 cases.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.livescience.com/33624-waves-ocean-sets-seven.html[/URL]

You guys are starting to sound like the beach bum with the physics hobby. Especially the nurse. Counting waves?

Covid is like the wind. And wind causes waves. If we stop testing our immune system, we all die from the slightest of infections. If wind stops flowing on the earth, we have a problem too.

I just read some reports on the age of the hospitalized now, and it turns out they are all aged 80+!

Whereas when I pointed to lots of people dieing from the actual vaccine 6 months ago, the hallelujah group used their high age as an excuse as well!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2622400]Under increasing when not cold yet, land of freedom US will make compulsory for 4 January vaccine when working in more than 100 employees companies and even in Texas, when only 30% chose to vaccinate in Putin Russia. Pfizer may be better for business than Vladimir. When they sell also third dose now in Western EU.[/QUOTE]Actually, it is more about the new pills now. In which case we won't be able to spot the black particles in the vials any longer.

In other words, the phrase conspiracy theory is nothing more than cheap rhetoric's. And it shows how easily the sheeps are fooled.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2622400]Under increasing when not cold yet, land of freedom US will make compulsory for 4 January vaccine when working in more than 100 employees companies and even in Texas, when only 30% chose to vaccinate in Putin Russia. Pfizer may be better for business than Vladimir. When they sell also third dose now in Western EU.[/QUOTE]The numbers in the US is in fact not increasing, for now. And both deaths and cases have been decreasing for nearly 2 months now.

Well adjusted humans just look up definitions in a dictionary:

Conspiracy theory.

Noun.

A belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

Why is it that the types who call other people sheep and often credit themselves with some special insight are also the ones who are sub-mediocre in all facets of life. If someone is so great, then why is their life so shitty? School shooter pedigree indeed.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622677]Well adjusted humans just look up definitions in a dictionary:

Conspiracy theory.

Noun.

A belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.[/QUOTE]The difference between you and me is that you need a dictionary to give you a definition. Which funnily enough is literally wrong.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622677]Why is it that the types who call other people sheep and often credit themselves with some special insight are also the ones who are sub-mediocre in all facets of life. If someone is so great, then why is their life so shitty? School shooter pedigree indeed.[/QUOTE]1. We write on an annonymous message board.

2. You fear being labelled.

3. Communication is not something you know much about.

Ok fine, I'll elaborate a bit more.

The current paradigm is that the definition of a conspiracy theory is what you claim. However, as I mentionned, that definition is wrong, because it is a combination of two words. So one can simply just combine them.

This current paradigm of the definition of the phrase however leads to the idea that those who argue against the current (may I say) paid news story paradigms are renegades. And will get blocked out of future job offerings. The book 1984 explain this very well by the way through the idea of Newspeak:

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak[/URL]

And this is where also the term conspiracy theory is a modern variation of newspeak.

The ones who came up with the term conspiracy theory is the same ones who get paid billions of dollar every year from the medical industry and, the oil and gas industry and several other industries needing lobbying and the creation of news stories. Also known as PR companies.

Hill & Knowlton.

Edelman.

Weber Shandwick.

Etc.

Over 50% of the work being done by these companies are the framing of reality on behalf of the industries paying them. Even the various UN divisions are on their payrolls. And half my degree is based on distorting reality. I thought you knew this by now. LOL And I am just one out of many.

I'll let you figure the rest, but one of my professors once got a bit mad at when I claimed 90% of what we hear in the media are blatant lies. He was a bit drunk at the time, but he laughed and said I was wrong: the real figure is closer to 99%. Then I mentionned sports as some sort of salvation, so he just smiled. I suppose that can be argued for.

Everything is subjective. Everything is planned. Everything is by definition thus a conspiracy since these high paying jobs / contracts are never a one person idea. And the contract are usually handed out because there are problems to be solved. In 99% of cases problems that needs to be covered up. In various different ways from crisis management to internal communication. But there is never one truth.

And finally, as you love to do: we can point to psychology, and for example the Milgram studies and others who show peoples affinity towards trusting in the Powers that be. The establishment. Cults (religions, state, schooling system, any organization etc) work the same way in order to set in stone certain power structures, rites and common icons etc. China has this idea of feng shuei. The wind has to blow in the same direction. Otherwise there will be chaos. So one can argue this can be all good in a way (unless when someone wants to label sex as a sin etc.). But one can also argue against the leaders, against the feng shuei, and against the cults that run modern society. Because history shows that power always corrupts. Which you can see within the CCP, Facebook and even NSA (snowden, assange etc). And when power corrupts, you get machiavellianism (read The Prince) - A book that was ment to be a parody. However the state science professors misread it for being a blueprint of how to run a country, or a united nations. Thus we are back at the term conspiracy theory once again.

The term is very on point in time also. At the onset of the information age. Where information is more and more ready for everyone to digest. Yet hardly anyone understand any subject to the fullest (Like most doctors are useless).

And so many of these people who complain, and take part in the attack on the parlament are actually paid actors (by the pr companies). However this also leads to other likeminded people without a good income to have someone to agree with. They become part of something, a tribal unit. And thus it reinforces the idea of the definition of the term conspiracy theory. Which you quoted from your dictionary. And no matter how grey the definition was at the start, or how grey the framing of the phrase was to begin with, it ends up being a black lie at the very end. All planned this way by experts in communication. Otherwise the basis for the industry would be at stake. And people would even loose faith at the largest spenders on lobbying / pr / propaganda: The medical industry at 1st. Oil and gas at 2nd etc.

But the people invested in these industries will always argue for them in a subjective manner. Because that is the way communication experts have written the system. Through curriculums, press released, species and internal communication. Framed in a good way for the people with the money.

P.S. : this is why I usually stick to the short comments here, because explaining takes too long when the others have 0 background knowledge.

I can already tell that you will now complain that the idea of paid actors are just one more conspiracy theory. Well, aside from the fact that I know. You can find several cases of Russian being very lazy with this. Even some youtube investigators ridicule this from time to time, by using the same actors and actresses multiple times in completely radically different news situations. So much so that it is part of the curriculum worldwide in communication. And if you believe Russians are all evil, and everyone else are good. Especially Americans, well then that's all on you. LOL. Ideas and tactics are global.

[URL]https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/534595-fbi-investigating-if-foreign-actors-funded-capitol-rioters-report[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622593]The numbers in the US is in fact not increasing, for now. And both deaths and cases have been decreasing for nearly 2 months now.[/QUOTE]US administration may not have same figures than your internet, to take their decision for 4 January when they tell about increasing rates, when also increasing in EU where starting to tell about possible 5th wave, and exploding in Easter Europe. Or are they working for Pfizer? After third dose and maybe more to come.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622593]The numbers in the US is in fact not increasing, for now. And both deaths and cases have been decreasing for nearly 2 months now.[/QUOTE]US is putting pressure on non vaccinated with the vaccine mandate. Austria introduces 2 G rules on Monday. There is more and more talk in Germany to go for 2 G rule too. The tin foil hat crowd gets more pressure.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2622702]3. Communication is not something you know much about.[/QUOTE]4 posts to respond to one person. No grace, no logic, no eloquence. Apparently communication is not your strong suit either.

Neither of us benefit from these interactions. You are made to look like a fool and I am made to be an asshole for picking on the fool, punching below my weight class as they stay.

Nevertheless, you're a damn fool.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2622738]US administration may not have same figures than your internet, to take their decision for 4 January when they tell about increasing rates, when also increasing in EU where starting to tell about possible 5th wave, and exploding in Easter Europe. Or are they working for Pfizer? After third dose and maybe more to come.[/QUOTE]Just addressed Tweedle Dee, now for Tweedle Dum.

Listen old man, the big bad scary internet is how organizations communicate in 2021. Don't let time pass you by.

US Administration figures (on the internet):

Center for Disease Control.

[URL]https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/[/URL]#datatracker-home.

World Health Organization.

[URL]https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us/[/URL]

Covid is not increasing in the US at this current moment. You made a wrong statement. "I was wrong" is an easy 3 word sentence.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2622463]Stay home, do not meet people and wear mask, it is that simple LOL![/QUOTE]But when skiing he could wear ski mask and social distance.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2622868]The tin foil hat crowd gets more pressure.[/QUOTE]Two of which are right here.

One mentally ill guy who tries to make himself the authority of the English language when he shouldn't even be clinically cleared to have agency much less authority over himself.

Another mentally ill guy is too prideful to admit error resorting to referencing some secret US admin statistics. Sad part is he as enough years on earth that he should know better.

Easy fix is humility and starting the road to self improvement but alas Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum can't get out of their own way.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2622900]But when skiing he could wear ski mask and social distance.[/QUOTE]For sure, huge social distance when I will free ride, sometimes not seeing anybody for around 1 hour. Also social distance only stuck on my beloved bicycle for climbings, maybe I will have to make it vaccinated when I sleep with it in car and also with skis. Wish to finish my Summer tour on next week end. Out of jokes, most of those who are badly sick now from covid are not vaccinated.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2622868]US is putting pressure on non vaccinated with the vaccine mandate. Austria introduces 2 G rules on Monday. There is more and more talk in Germany to go for 2 G rule too. The tin foil hat crowd gets more pressure.[/QUOTE]Do you (or any expert here) have comparative numbers of US states (eg California, Florida, Texas, New York etc.) Covid vaccinations vs infections vs deaths percentages for last 3 or 6 months? Also those same numbers for 5 most populated countries in the world? I am too stupid to find these numbers by myself, but my guess is this information can indicate effectiveness of these Covid vaccines and the related mandates. Thank you all!

I forgot to also mention identity politics. Ridicule someone with a certain view, and everyone else will attach that certain view with the people being ridiculed. Thus it is important for the capitol hill rioters to look like freaks.

Can call most people sheeps. But I suppose everyone is just mindfucked. God Facebook is having a laugh. !

LOL.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622899]Just addressed Tweedle Dee, now for Tweedle Dum.

Listen old man, the big bad scary internet is how organizations communicate in 2021. Don't let time pass you by.

... You made a wrong statement. "I was wrong" is an easy 3 word sentence.[/QUOTE]Mr Trabant engine (but Trabants are light!) admitted he was wrong a single time, after he said once that the population of Switzerland is 5 million. Which was true, in the 60's. I don't know why he accepted this fact alone but not others, after all it is published on the internet and I have some doubts that he has personally counted the entire Swiss population.

I don't understand why it is so hard for one to admit they are wrong when they face reality. Maybe it's because they live in fantasy land so long, they have trouble distinguishing reality.

Waiting for some posts from Mr "FKKs will be closed in 2021."

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622896]4 posts to respond to one person. No grace, no logic, no eloquence. Apparently communication is not your strong suit either.

Neither of us benefit from these interactions. You are made to look like a fool and I am made to be an asshole for picking on the fool, punching below my weight class as they stay.[/QUOTE]If they would be fools only, I might agree they shouldn't be picked on. But they are arrogant, asshole fools. So they are fair game especially since they are flooding the threads.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622899]Just addressed Tweedle Dee, now for Tweedle Dum.

Listen old man, the big bad scary internet is how organizations communicate in 2021. Don't let time pass you by.

US Administration figures (on the internet):

Center for Disease Control.

[URL]https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/[/URL]#datatracker-home.

World Health Organization.

[URL]https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us/[/URL]

Covid is not increasing in the US at this current moment. You made a wrong statement. "I was wrong" is an easy 3 word sentence.[/QUOTE]750.000 covid deaths in US, wrong figure? And not me but US administration want all employees working in more than 100 employees companies to be vaccinated for 4 January and even in Texas, not true? Not asked in Germany nor France. You only think from internet where so many wrong and fakes. I try to think a bit by myself since I was a child. I was not born in a kolkhoze even I love Russia except Putin, and I don t live in China, so I'm free to think like a free bird, not only drinking internet. I wish at least you don't get your medical knowledge from internet when so many bullshits written on internet.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2622967]Do you (or any expert here) have comparative numbers of US states (eg California, Florida, Texas, New York etc.) Covid vaccinations vs infections vs deaths percentages for last 3 or 6 months? Also those same numbers for 5 most populated countries in the world? I am too stupid to find these numbers by myself, but my guess is this information can indicate effectiveness of these Covid vaccines and the related mandates. Thank you all![/QUOTE]Nobody here is an expert, we can just choose what do we consider to be serious information sources. My post was provocative, but I am not for broad vaccine mandates except for people working in hospitals or retirement homes. Plus I think that the covid certificates in use in Europe don't consider people who were infected but didn't have serious enough symptoms to get tested at the time. Everybody in Europe or US had the chance to be vaccinated, so as long as hospitals are not overwhelmed, let it rip. Personally I think that after this winter in Europe and US we will be in the endemic phase, the virus will be around but the overall risk will be smaller and smaller. Austria is going 2 G because of the winter holidays season. They want to show they have low number of cases when people make a decision where to go for ski.

The data you ask for would be interesting to see. I think we would need to look as well as what other measures are in place, population density and so on.

Covid is now already spreading again in Western EU, maybe for 4th /5th wave when not cold yet, Austria and Germany putting pressure with 2 G, to vaccinate. Romania is now under covid, Cz is also, and Russia is down under despite sputnik Vladimir, Russians don t trust. And vaccines are not efficient for too long. Winter may be long, wish for snow and ski.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623254]Covid is now already spreading again in Western EU, maybe for 4th /5th wave when not cold yet, Austria and Germany putting pressure with 2 G, to vaccinate. Romania is now under covid, Cz is also, and Russia is down under despite sputnik Vladimir, Russians don t trust. And vaccines are not efficient for too long. Winter may be long, wish for snow and ski.[/QUOTE]And stupid Sweden, which never used lockdowns, masks, or hard restrictions.

There are no restrictions at all here in Sweden now.

Life is normal.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2623284]And stupid Sweden, which never used lockdowns, masks, or hard restrictions.

There are no restrictions at all here in Sweden now.

Life is normal.[/QUOTE]No big restrictions yet in Germany or France, but more and more cases. Germany is thinking about 2 G, same like Austria.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622896]Nevertheless, you're a damn fool.[/QUOTE]Geez what an emo kid you are. 0 knowledge yet again.

[QUOTE=Arnold15;2623284]And stupid Sweden, which never used lockdowns, masks, or hard restrictions.

There are no restrictions at all here in Sweden now.

Life is normal.[/QUOTE]I even took my booster now. I live in a flyover non blue state; I am into my mid 40's now. I have extended family that I visit regularly and some of them are old. I am starting to see my sugarbabes. Around here, things never totally ground to a halt as they did in some big coastal cities. I don't get the politics of this Covid at all. No wonder commie China that "accidentally leaked this virus" on the rest of the world and committed a genocide was laughing its way to a better economy in 2020. Now, divine comeuppance may be on them and those thugs are dying too even if their official numbers continue to be fake as always. Could not happen to a worse of "humans" - one wishes them every horrible death to as many as possible, for the mass killings they inflicted on this planet.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623254]Covid is now already spreading again in Western EU, maybe for 4th /5th wave when not cold yet, Austria and Germany putting pressure with 2 G, to vaccinate. Romania is now under covid, Cz is also, and Russia is down under despite sputnik Vladimir, Russians don t trust. And vaccines are not efficient for too long. Winter may be long, wish for snow and ski.[/QUOTE]Some of your answers are in the book Covid-19: The Great Reset. By Klaus Schwab. In this book he outlines how rolling lockdowns and other restrictions will become permanent.

And he also quotes Harari by stating this:

Imagine North Korea in 2030, when every citizen has to wear a biometric bracelet 24 hours a day. If you listen to a speech by the Great Leader and the bracelet picks up the tell-tale signs of anger, you are done for.

A bracelet? Or something else? Just consider it for awhile.

Our resident nurse here is so scared to death already by this reality that he refuses to listen to logic no matter how clearly I point it out.

While I laugh all the way since I kinda agree with most of the great reset points. I know most people don't.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623295]No big restrictions yet in Germany or France, but more and more cases. Germany is thinking about 2 G, same like Austria.[/QUOTE]We had a massive RS boom a month or two ago here. Now that one faded away and the numbers go swapped over to covid-cases. Interesting how these mechanics works. Like last year with the common flu. But if you are vaxxed, you still just get RS.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623097]750.000 covid deaths in US, wrong figure? And not me but US administration want all employees working in more than 100 employees companies to be vaccinated for 4 January and even in Texas, not true? Not asked in Germany nor France. You only think from internet where so many wrong and fakes.[/QUOTE]None of that confirms anything about increasing cases. CDC likely knows more than me. I trust my sources. Add my first hand experience in the hospital and I'm sure my assessment and sources I choose at this point is much more accurate than the guesses of a delusional man who is in no way associated with healthcare, public health, or the United States for that matter.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623097]mI wish at least you don't get your medical knowledge from internet when so many bullshits written on internet.[/QUOTE]Piggyback on my statement above, your post (s) is a prime example of your assertion written here.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2623310]Geez what an emo kid you are. 0 knowledge yet again.[/QUOTE]So insightful, burn, such riveting wit.

Jesus, I'm embarrassed for you.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2623312]I even took my booster now. I live in a flyover non blue state; I am into my mid 40's now. I have extended family that I visit regularly and some of them are old. I am starting to see my sugarbabes. Around here, things never totally ground to a halt as they did in some big coastal cities. I don't get the politics of this Covid at all. No wonder commie China that "accidentally leaked this virus" on the rest of the world and committed a genocide was laughing its way to a better economy in 2020. Now, divine comeuppance may be on them and those thugs are dying too even if their official numbers continue to be fake as always. Could not happen to a worse of "humans" - one wishes them every horrible death to as many as possible, for the mass killings they inflicted on this planet.[/QUOTE]Guber's back!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2623069]Mr Trabant engine (but Trabants are light!) admitted he was wrong a single time, after he said once that the population of Switzerland is 5 million. Which was true, in the 60's. I don't know why he accepted this fact alone but not others, after all it is published on the internet and I have some doubts that he has personally counted the entire Swiss population.

I don't understand why it is so hard for one to admit they are wrong when they face reality. Maybe it's because they live in fantasy land so long, they have trouble distinguishing reality.

Waiting for some posts from Mr "FKKs will be closed in 2021.[/QUOTE]Right. Revenge of the Nerds, Goonies, Stranger Things, all examples of films about lovable losers who you come to adore. But that's because they're definitely the good guys.

For these other guys here, well, no one roots for the dorks that turn out to be the Adam Lanzas of Sandy Hook or the Columbine school shooters.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2623069]Waiting for some posts from Mr "FKKs will be closed in 2021."[/QUOTE]Bahaha. Where did he go? Lurking until we see a surge? At least he's smart enough to not keep making a fool out of himself like the others. He never admitted error but at least he has the decency to stop spitting bullshit. Like I said before, he's just blinded by political opinions.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2623325]None of that confirms anything about increasing cases. CDC likely knows more than me. I trust my sources. Add my first hand experience in the hospital and I'm sure my assessment and sources I choose at this point is much more accurate than the guesses of a delusional man who is in no way associated with healthcare, public health, or the United States for that matter.

Piggyback on my statement above, your post (s) is a prime example of your assertion written here.[/QUOTE]So, why did US administration take this decision to put so big pressure to vaccinate? So big pressure, justice don t seem to agree, if US have no problem with covid, except 750 000 deaths and they can t even know among more than 10 millions illegals and so many millions without health insurance. Or just to give business to Pfizer? About internet, we had example in France, a guy who made bread, good and difficult job, then he decided to become kind of medical on internet, he got 500 000 followers when he claimed no HIV virus and if you lose arm or leg, no problem, can get new one like hair growing again, what can be read on internet and only 1 example, when more bullshits people believe than truth. I prefer national information, they check information and when they mistake, they apologize and give correction, when France is not China nor Russia nor even sexist Japan.

Rate in Saxe 201/100 000, high rate around Berlin, 900/100 000 in some German places. 67% vaccinated in Germany. Covid is spreading very fast in Germany, after Romania and Cz Republic. NL are also following for fast spreading.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2622896], punching below my weight class as they stay.[/QUOTE]This is kindergarden level. Zero on topic arguments, and comments on the level of 'my dad is bigger than your dad'.

Actually, considering your deficiencies, I doubt that.

Here is something for the beta men to read up on:

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2623404]Right. Revenge of the Nerds, Goonies, Stranger Things, all examples of films about lovable losers who you come to adore. But that's because they're definitely the good guys.

For these other guys here, well, no one roots for the dorks that turn out to be the Adam Lanzas of Sandy Hook or the Columbine school shooters.[/QUOTE]I support the framed bad guys in about half the TV shows I watch simply due to bad acting from the supposedly 'good guys'.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623452]So, why did US administration take this decision to put so big pressure to vaccinate? So big pressure, justice don t seem to agree, if US have no problem with covid, except 750 000 deaths and they can t even know among more than 10 millions illegals and so many millions without health insurance. Or just to give business to Pfizer? About internet, we had example in France, a guy who made bread, good and difficult job, then he decided to become kind of medical on internet, he got 500 000 followers when he claimed no HIV virus and if you lose arm or leg, no problem, can get new one like hair growing again, what can be read on internet and only 1 example, when more bullshits people believe than truth. I prefer national information, they check information and when they mistake, they apologize and give correction, when France is not China nor Russia nor even sexist Japan.[/QUOTE]Who said there was no problem? Only said that rates were not increasing. Come back to reality.

Educate yourself on public health and preventative medicine before coming back with these bullshit overly wordy rants if you still don't understand.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2623559]This is kindergarden level. Zero on topic arguments, and comments on the level of 'my dad is bigger than your dad'.

Actually, considering your deficiencies, I doubt that.[/QUOTE]I have many, but I address them and improve upon them. You're too internally fragile and lazy to admit imperfections and better yourself. Facing reality would be too world shattering so you choose instead to live in an imaginary world where your only tools are to repeat the same fairy tails over and over again until you actually believe these delusions of grandeur and perhaps trick the lower hanging fruit to follow you along the way.

Very Trumpian and very Siriojan. Clowns all made from the same mold.

Some people look for data that support their beliefs, for ego reasons I assume. Better humans look at data that actually matter:

Positive cases versus what actually matters: significant disease, hospitalizations, deaths (the latter all lower in high vax areas.)

Data dump because well, to address Gino's troubles finding the data and in lieu of Piston's essentially meaningless article, the data is plentiful and overwhelmingly on the side of vaccine effectiveness at preventing significant disease. The only worthy point in the latter is to not stigmatize the unvaxxed. It only worsens the situation when stigmatize the unvaxxed, poking at their pride causing them to root in even deeper. But it's perfectly okay to call out the specific people who choose to peddle bullshit at the detriment of society, only to console their tender egos.

Data dump for vaccine effectiveness of preventing significant disease:

[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34529637/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X[/URL](21) 00061-2/ fulltext.

[URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110362[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-deaths-among-older-adults-during-the-delta-surge-were-higher-in-states-with-lower-vaccination-rates/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/22/4-charts-show-how-covid-vaccines-are-working-in-the-uk-.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2623393]Guber's back![/QUOTE]CCP excrement still here? 3,000 more posts in the last month? Highly productive.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623496]Rate in Saxe 201/100 000, high rate around Berlin, 900/100 000 in some German places. 67% vaccinated in Germany. Covid is spreading very fast in Germany, after Romania and Cz Republic. NL are also following for fast spreading.[/QUOTE]Facing increasing rate, Hessen may turn only for PCR like NRW, so no more fast tests?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2623670]CCP excrement still here? 3,000 more posts in the last month? Highly productive.[/QUOTE]Yeah! I see you're still promoting for mass genocide of innocent individual people for the possible sins of a few. Consistent if nothing else. Once a Harold, always a Harold I guess.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2623762]Yeah! I see you're still promoting for mass genocide of innocent individual people for the possible sins of a few. Consistent if nothing else. Once a Harold, always a Harold I guess.[/QUOTE]It is funny that I posted 6 to 7 messages on ISG in the last 3 days in 2 or 3 different threads but the one that drew your ire is the comment that pointed to the genocide done by your CCP Masters.

[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/5e20cb73-78aa-4f7d-a5e1-c548261af8c8[/URL]

You whine about frustrated curses from the people of the west but celebrate actual genocide done by your kind.

Such a touching loyalty; and yet you panhandle in the US.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2622967]Do you (or any expert here) have comparative numbers of US states (eg California, Florida, Texas, New York etc.) Covid vaccinations vs infections vs deaths percentages for last 3 or 6 months? Also those same numbers for 5 most populated countries in the world? I am too stupid to find these numbers by myself, but my guess is this information can indicate effectiveness of these Covid vaccines and the related mandates. Thank you all![/QUOTE]You're about to get some real time world wide vaccine efficacy figures in the coming months. No doubt case numbers will rise everywhere. To see how beneficial vaccination is or is not, just keep an eye on hospitalizations and deaths in New England (Over 70%) versus the Mountain West states (Under 50%.

Even sooner, just look at Western Europe (Over 65%) versus Eastern Europe (Under 40%) and you'll get your comparative numbers. Cases skyrocketing all over Europe. How much the hospitals and by extension the morgues are affected will tell you what you need to know.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2622967]Do you (or any expert here) have comparative numbers of US states (eg California, Florida, Texas, New York etc.) Covid vaccinations vs infections vs deaths percentages for last 3 or 6 months? Also those same numbers for 5 most populated countries in the world? I am too stupid to find these numbers by myself, but my guess is this information can indicate effectiveness of these Covid vaccines and the related mandates. Thank you all![/QUOTE]US data can be found here: [URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[/URL].

World data can be found here: [URL]https://covid19.who.int/[/URL].

GG.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2623775]It is funny that I posted 6 to 7 messages on ISG in the last 3 days in 2 or 3 different threads but the one that drew your ire is the comment that pointed to the genocide done by your CCP Masters.

[URL]https://www.ft.com/content/5e20cb73-78aa-4f7d-a5e1-c548261af8c8[/URL]

You whine about frustrated curses from the people of the west but celebrate actual genocide done by your kind.

Such a touching loyalty; and yet you panhandle in the US.[/QUOTE]Nah, the rest was just terribly mundane novels. Sadly, your desire to play racial genocide bingo is the most interesting about your Blah personality.

Genocide propaganda and infidelity, interesting past times.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2623660]Some people look for data that support their beliefs, for ego reasons I assume. Better humans look at data that actually matter:

Positive cases versus what actually matters: significant disease, hospitalizations, deaths (the latter all lower in high vax areas.)

Data dump because well, to address Gino's troubles finding the data and in lieu of Piston's essentially meaningless article, the data is plentiful and overwhelmingly on the side of vaccine effectiveness at preventing significant disease. The only worthy point in the latter is to not stigmatize the unvaxxed. It only worsens the situation when stigmatize the unvaxxed, poking at their pride causing them to root in even deeper. But it's perfectly okay to call out the specific people who choose to peddle bullshit at the detriment of society, only to console their tender egos.

Data dump for vaccine effectiveness of preventing significant disease:.[/QUOTE]750.000 US deaths known, more than 120.000 in France and more than 200.000 in Russia kill more my mood than feeding my ego and after crazy Trump, you are really not lucky in US when now Biden administration putting big pressure to vaccinate for 4 January on millions of people and thousands companies, making economics problems to come, but for no reason according to you when everything would be fine about covid, when spreading fast and fulling our hospitals in Western EU, when Eastern like Romania or Russia are down under. Austria and German landers pushing for 2 G. France should push for third dose for older than 65. After my final, wish for no snow and not too cold in high altitude, will have to JJ to remain a free bird, even I will always be in mind, not only drinking land of bullshits like in brothels, internet.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623874]750.000 US deaths known, more than 120.000 in France and more than 200.000 in Russia kill more my mood than feeding my ego and after crazy Trump, you are really not lucky in US when now Biden administration putting big pressure to vaccinate for 4 January on millions of people and thousands companies, making economics problems to come, but for no reason according to you when everything would be fine about covid, when spreading fast and fulling our hospitals in Western EU, when Eastern like Romania or Russia are down under. Austria and German landers pushing for 2 G. France should push for third dose for older than 65. After my final, wish for no snow and not too cold in high altitude, will have to JJ to remain a free bird, even I will always be in mind, not only drinking land of bullshits like in brothels, internet.[/QUOTE]Your Alzheimer's keeps you repeating the same falsehoods.

Quote me where I said there was no problem in the US rather than merely, "cases are not increasing in the US at the moment."

Go ahead, I'll wait.

With infection rating going up and beyond peak pandemic time, does anyone know if Sharks is strictly allowing only vaccinated customers in and all girls are vaccinated?

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2623909]If you can't glean more sexually predictive information from having a conversation with a real live nude woman than from an email. . .

I can. Lucky me. Unlucky you.[/QUOTE]You would think that your comment would be obvious. Apparently we were wrong.

[QUOTE=Apollo946;2624080]With infection rating going up and beyond peak pandemic time, does anyone know if Sharks is strictly allowing only vaccinated customers in and all girls are vaccinated?[/QUOTE]On my last visit 10 days ago, still fast test possible, same for girls. Could become only PCR test or vaccinated.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624020]Your Alzheimer's keeps you repeating the same falsehoods.

Quote me where I said there was no problem in the US rather than merely, "cases are not increasing in the US at the moment."

Go ahead, I'll wait.[/QUOTE]When you will be able to compete for memory with me, same like for 2 October = nobody.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624100]You would think that your comment would be obvious. Apparently we were wrong.[/QUOTE]Desperately trying to make some allies I guess. You repeatedly have shown you feel secure in a group. Pathetic Bsian. Must be the habits formed from mugging old ladies w / groups in Chinatown.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2623801]Nah, the rest was just terribly mundane novels. Sadly, your desire to play racial genocide bingo is the most interesting about your Blah personality.

Genocide propaganda and infidelity, interesting past times.[/QUOTE]Keep defending your CCP overlords and their genocide. And people wonder why some Asians are targeted by the far right. The shame of it is that innocents are probably hammered while true thugs like you get away.

Wtf is a blah personality? If it means boring, I am pretty happy to wear the medal. I worked hard to be comfortable and steady in life and yes boring too. Much better to have a nice, boring life than to be a rolling stone with no mass.

[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2623798]US data can be found here: [URL]https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html[/URL].

World data can be found here: [URL]https://covid19.who.int/[/URL].

GG.[/QUOTE]Thanks GG. Looking at the data in the sources you shared, feels like results (percentages of Covid deaths, hospitalizations, infections per million population) are pretty much the same all over the world (comes in waves in different regions in different times) irrespective of more percentage of people are Covid vaccinated or not. I am very good in big data analysis but with zero medical or bioscience experience, and that's my inference from this data. Obviously medical or bioscience experts can show us better how the data should be interpreted or used.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2624141]When you will be able to compete for memory with me, same like for 2 October = nobody.[/QUOTE]I'll take that as a "No, little Sirioja cannot produce the quote I claimed."

A truly confident man would have just admitted error and moved on.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2624141]When you will be able to compete for memory with me, same like for 2 October = nobody.[/QUOTE]Delusions and Alzheimer's go hand in hand.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2623670]CCP excrement still here? 3,000 more posts in the last month? Highly productive.[/QUOTE]But also funded by Fauci. So no wonder some science articles cherrypick the data.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2624166]Keep defending your CCP overlords and their genocide. And people wonder why some Asians are targeted by the far right. The shame of it is that innocents are probably hammered while true thugs like you get away.

Wtf is a blah personality? If it means boring, I am pretty happy to wear the medal. I worked hard to be comfortable and steady in life and yes boring too. Much better to have a nice, boring life than to be a rolling stone with no mass.[/QUOTE]Part of your Blah personality is the fact that you apparently think that there is a dichotomy between an exciting life and a stable one. I suppose that's what you've been trained to believe. Consistent with someone who can't see the benefit of observing a female's energy in person versus an internet ad.

How tight is your asshole exactly? I bet you're the kind of dude who can't take a shit in a public bathroom when you hear another person walk in.

Like I said, your genocidal, deportation promoting tendencies are the least non-descript parts of your character. It's a disgusting character trait but at least that's one thing that distinguishes you from that bland, white wallpaper.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2623746]Facing increasing rate, Hessen may turn only for PCR like NRW, so no more fast tests?[/QUOTE]I hear rumors of the health ministries all over have started to admit that the tests are invalid. Thus the reason for the G2 in Austria. And it is spreading. What does that say about who actually have the virus or not? I'll let the wannabe 'experts' figure that out.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2624175]Thanks GG. Looking at the data in the sources you shared, feels like results (percentages of Covid deaths, hospitalizations, infections per million population) are pretty much the same all over the world (comes in waves in different regions in different times) irrespective of more percentage of people are Covid vaccinated or not. I am very good in big data analysis but with zero medical or bioscience experience, and that's my inference from this data. Obviously medical or bioscience experts can show us better how the data should be interpreted or used.[/QUOTE]Definitely not what the data he linked to suggests.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2624145]Desperately trying to make some allies I guess. You repeatedly have shown you feel secure in a group. Pathetic Bsian. Must be the habits formed from mugging old ladies w / groups in Chinatown.[/QUOTE]Humans definitely evolved as pack animals. Yes, humans feel security when in groups. Bravo observation of normal human behavior.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2623788]You're about to get some real time world wide vaccine efficacy figures in the coming months. No doubt case numbers will rise everywhere. To see how beneficial vaccination is or is not, just keep an eye on hospitalizations and deaths in New England (Over 70%) versus the Mountain West states (Under 50%.

Even sooner, just look at Western Europe (Over 65%) versus Eastern Europe (Under 40%) and you'll get your comparative numbers. Cases skyrocketing all over Europe. How much the hospitals and by extension the morgues are affected will tell you what you need to know.[/QUOTE]You still haven't read Klaus Schwabs book I see.

Your numbers makes zero sense by the way. Since there is the 3rd vaccine now. And soon a 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th etc etc.

The nurse is soon gone anyway. Due to all the vaxx toxins.

I guess it is meme time now that it is clear he and his small group of weirdos don't read what I write.

Too bad I can only post 10 at a time. Got a few more here, though I still haven't opened nearly 3000 myself.

OK, last one for today now.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2623909]If you can't glean more sexually predictive information from having a conversation with a real live nude woman than from an email. . .

I can. Lucky me. Unlucky you.[/QUOTE]Weak. Perhaps in the RTC clubs that are your staple, you are getting hours of chatting pre-session. I would not touch those skanks with a barge pole if they paid me. Even in Sharks, yes there are 100+ on a good night but perhaps 20 are attractive, and another 30 are doable with a sufficient amount of drink and I would not fuck the bottom 30 percentile under any circumstance. In the last few years the quality has declined and the amount of "conversation" with most girls is a few minutes at best. One or two exceptions exist but that is the norm. At least before she becomes a regular anyway, that would be the case. If she is a girl you already had sex with, gleaning behavior is moot. And no, skills in the room are not always apparent from conversation. The German blonde from Stuttgart who used to provide super service, including free rimming in a hourly session for 100, forgot her name, could not speak more than 2 sentences of English. She was not super attractive either but her service was awesome. Passing her based on an interview outside the room would have been a mistake. And the girls that speak and tease well outside the room are often less than useless inside, half of them outright frauds. I guess you subscribe to the Sirioja school of behavioral assessment and believe you can read so much. Congrats on your superpowers. Apparently, they led you to skank filled Dietz. OK then. Personally, I would step into a third world bathroom before I would go inside Dietz.

And if we are going to compare numbers, even in a megaclub like Sharks, in a week we might see 250 circulating. When I visit the club over a year or 18 months, there is churn but nearly 50% are still the same. I would not think Sharks has more than 500 to 750 girls passing through their doors in a year. Of which probably 100 are attractive and doable and that is being extremely generous. I have that many on my sugarbabe site right now, active and logged in at this moment all of them in less than 50 miles from me and who speak the same language as I do. And I am not talking skanks, overweight, minority ethnic, blah blah blah.

You quite clearly have no clue about sugarbabes. Email? GIFs? It might help you to actually know something before posting random comments. I posted a few detailed field reports and Steve has written a ton, so have many others in the SA thread. I had a leisurely brunch with a 22 year old blonde junior at a local Univ on last Friday and then took her to a hotel for 2 hours of sex, all for $300 ie 260 Euro. Someone posted a review in Sharks that it cost 215 Euro for an hour of sex.

Apparently you only fuck women inside the clubs, nowhere else and can't assess them with their clothes on. Out in the real world where most people live, men and women assess attractiveness, sexual behavior and other stuff with their clothes on. Must be a novel concept? And if I didn't like the girl, I would have walked before the brunch, during or right after. However, keep your illusion, it must be nice to think what you have is the only thing to have.

Speaking of what Sharks and FKKs have and don't have (since you mentioned 100 are on sale) - it is not in and America. It is not in France either hence Mr Siri keeps driving hundreds of miles every week - 600 K in a few years, he kindly informed us IIRC. It is not in Japan, not in Italy, and not even in Munich. I guess you think it is great to have sex once or twice a year and that's it. For 15 months Sharks was shut. However, sugarbabes did not shut their legs. The site did not go down. If you were willing to risk it, you could have fucked. And I didn't have to fly 9 hours, go through shit to get to the doors of Sharks and put my mask on when walking and whatever other dumb rules they had in place.

My original comment was related to the weakening monger economics of clubs with the passing of time and how at certain thresholds, it was no longer attractive in a financial sense when local, attractive alternate options are available. Obviously that point was lost on you. I like both FKKs and sugarbabes and frankly comparing them is apples to oranges when it comes to service issues but economics is about cold hard numbers.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624196]have never done the Sugar Babes thing. ... negotiate good service upfront to avoid the bait and switch upsell scams.[/QUOTE]It is amazing that the doofuses who don't have the faintest fucking clue can hold forth as if they are experts, on covid or sugarbabes or what have you. On one hand, this CCP troll says he never used the site and then explains to us what happens on that site. Yes, on seeking, one is not allowed to negotiate upfront for good service, and they (the evil they. Some evil entity) bait the unsuspecting dude with pics of Chrissy Teigen and then switch with Sylvana of Sharks, some other evil dude will hold a gun to your head and you shall be forced to fuck and pay the full amount. Yes, that is precisely what happens. Wow.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2624189]Delusions and Alzheimer's go hand in hand.[/QUOTE]But I'm pretty sure for one thing: I will never see you in 20% steep with me on my cheap bicycle but turning my legs. Wish for my Summer final on this week end, I would like to climb 4500 meters high if no snow.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2302091]You should really stick to things you know something about..[/QUOTE]From this bright mind comes the idea that seeking patrons are limited to GIFs and emails.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2624166]Keep defending your CCP overlords and their genocide.[/QUOTE]I believe that in his case, he just want to feel more Chinese than Thai, hence the suck up. What he does not know however is that the ccp overlords truly look down at him like a nobody. In Singapore for example, they look at the surrounding ASEAN peoples as lesser humans, because the majority of Singaporeans are from China. Although not really China, but from Fujian and Guangzhou where the culture and language is also different from China proper. Restricted to the area between Xi-An, Beijing and down into Henan province. In China this looking down on the lesser Asians are even more profound.

China really only is 5 provinces plus Beijing and Tianjin: Shaanxi, Shanxi, Hebei, Shandong and Henan. Geographically divided from the rest by the sea to the east, steppe / desert to the northwest and mountains / hills to the south. While to the northeast there were always tensions with the Manchu people, who I suppose did conquer China, and held power for awhile. But now they have lost the power, and by logic thus should want self control of dongbei again. The Manchurians are genetically completely different people from the Chinese, and more related culturally and ethnically to Koreans than Chinese.

If you fuck around in China you easily spot massive difference from area to area in China. Even more so than in Europe, from Lisbon to Yekaterinburg.

I have fucked around in China a lot on my quest some years ago to give Chinese women the taste of real cock.

I have score Chinese women from 14 or 15 out of 27 provinces and 3 out of 4 municipalities.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624229] Consistent with someone who can't see the benefit of observing a female's energy in person versus an internet ad.

How tight is your asshole exactly?.[/QUOTE]Your obsession with other dudes' assholes explains why publicly perform rim jobs regularly on your boss McAdonis.

As for internet ads, once more you prove yourself to be be a doofus posting stuff about topics you have no fucking clue about. Your senseless posts are as clued in as those which say "you go inside FKKs, you get mugged, your clothes are stolen, and you are kicked out in a towel."

Genocide was committed by your kind and your CCP overlords. You have been celebrating it for 18 months. You are positively sub-human as are all the CCP thugs.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624229]How tight is your asshole exactly? I bet you're the kind of dude who can't take a shit in a public bathroom when you hear another person walk in.[/QUOTE]Please don't elaborate on your tactics regarding this.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624234]Humans definitely evolved as pack animals. Yes, humans feel security when in groups. Bravo observation of normal human behavior.[/QUOTE]It's a beta trait.

A whole page directed towards little old me? The obsession is flattering yet creepy. But it's satisfying to know that I strike such a cord with you lame fucks.

Pessimist continues to reveal his true colors as a closet social-hierarchy supporting, would-be Nazi sympathizer and Pistons continues his obsession with me for cutting him off and breaking his heart years ago. The first is off-putting and the latter is pathetic and creepy. One is a scared chihuahua who hides in a safe but narrow world and the other is an Asperger's manchild who still use terms from 2009 like beta and alpha male. Lame fellas, lame.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2624266]Weak. Perhaps in the RTC clubs that are your staple, you are getting hours of chatting pre-session. I would not touch those skanks with a barge pole if they paid me. Even in Sharks, yes there are 100+ on a good night but perhaps 20 are attractive, and another 30 are doable with a sufficient amount of drink and I would not fuck the bottom 30 percentile under any circumstance. In the last few years the quality has declined and the amount of "conversation" with most girls is a few minutes at best. One or two exceptions exist but that is the norm. At least before she becomes a regular anyway, that would be the case. If she is a girl you already had sex with, gleaning behavior is moot. And no, skills in the room are not always apparent from conversation. The German blonde from Stuttgart who used to provide super service, including free rimming in a hourly session for 100, forgot her name, could not speak more than 2 sentences of English. She was not super attractive either but her service was awesome. Passing her based on an interview outside the room would have been a mistake. And the girls that speak and tease well outside the room are often less than useless inside, half of them outright frauds. I guess you subscribe to the Sirioja school of behavioral assessment and believe you can read so much. Congrats on your superpowers. Apparently, they led you to skank filled Dietz. OK then. Personally, I would step into a third world bathroom before I would go inside Dietz.

And if we are going to compare numbers, even in a megaclub like Sharks, in a week we might see 250 circulating. When I visit the club over a year or 18 months, there is churn but nearly 50% are still the same. I would not think Sharks has more than 500 to 750 girls passing through their doors in a year. Of which probably 100 are attractive and doable and that is being extremely generous. I have that many on my sugarbabe site right now, active and logged in at this moment all of them in less than 50 miles from me and who speak the same language as I do. And I am not talking skanks, overweight, minority ethnic, blah blah blah..[/QUOTE]Screen play summary:

Neurosynth makes blatantly obvious comment that Seeing a hooker in person tells you more than simple internet ads.

Pessimists attacks him for only God knows why for making a pretty universally obvious point.

Neurosynth points out that his observation was obvious.

Pessimist is strange and is insulted, writes ensuing novel because, well, he's a 4 out of 10 quality human.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2624271]It is amazing that the doofuses who don't have the faintest fucking clue can hold forth as if they are experts, on covid or sugarbabes or what have you. On one hand, this CCP troll says he never used the site and then explains to us what happens on that site. Yes, on seeking, one is not allowed to negotiate upfront for good service, and they (the evil they. Some evil entity) bait the unsuspecting dude with pics of Chrissy Teigen and then switch with Sylvana of Sharks, some other evil dude will hold a gun to your head and you shall be forced to fuck and pay the full amount. Yes, that is precisely what happens. Wow.[/QUOTE]Responds to Sugarbabe reference as a personal attack.

Hook Line Sinker. Too easy. Yawn.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2624175]Thanks GG. Looking at the data in the sources you shared, feels like results (percentages of Covid deaths, hospitalizations, infections per million population) are pretty much the same all over the world (comes in waves in different regions in different times) irrespective of more percentage of people are Covid vaccinated or not. I am very good in big data analysis but with zero medical or bioscience experience, and that's my inference from this data. Obviously medical or bioscience experts can show us better how the data should be interpreted or used.[/QUOTE]I feel data isn't very representative of the group going to FKK. Back at home, I don't go anywhere without mask. Since we work from home, interaction with other people is very limited, wearing mask pass by people in supermarkets, or pick up food quickly from restaurants, that's about it, very very limited interaction with other people.

But FKK is different right? Without mask, staying with girls for long period of time, who themselves have spent extensive time with different men daily. Risk factor is much higher. And Covid is not STD which can largely be prevented by condom, it's airborn and if you stay in same room with an infected person, even with mask there isn't much protection. It's proven vaccinated person can also get infected. Don't understand why vaccination rate is so low in Germany.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624638]A whole page directed towards little old me? The obsession is flattering yet creepy. But it's satisfying to know that I strike such a cord with you lame fucks.

Pessimist continues to reveal his true colors as a closet social-hierarchy supporting, would-be Nazi sympathizer and Pistons continues his obsession with me for cutting him off and breaking his heart years ago. The first is off-putting and the latter is pathetic and creepy. One is a scared chihuahua who hides in a safe but narrow world and the other is an Asperger's manchild who still use terms from 2009 like beta and alpha male. Lame fellas, lame.[/QUOTE]"Would-be Nazi sympathizer" - from the fopdoodle that calls women Karens, Turks something, Asians chinky ching chongs, Blacks something else, older dudes something, gays fags, blah blah. You are walking pit of hatred against humanity; no wonder you love your CCP bosses.

"One is a scared chihuahua" from the 5'7" midget? OK. How scared one has to be, desperately trying to make allies for online flame wars?

"2009 like beta and alpha male" - a bunch of your old posts in these very threads included your usage of alpha and beta male and how sleeping in your own car to save rent made you an alpha.

" off-putting" - oh yeah, you are a charm, alright. Total ninny.

"The obsession is flattering" - more foolishness. As soon as I posted a little CCP bashing, you came running in with your tail up. Perhaps you are paid to do so. You are in a running feud with dozens on this site; the only attention you ever get and crave in life is from these fights apparently. Loser CCP troll is a good line of work for you.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2624842]"Would-be Nazi sympathizer" - from the fopdoodle that calls women Karens, Turks something, Asians chinky ching chongs, Blacks something else, older dudes something, gays fags, blah blah. You are walking pit of hatred against humanity; no wonder you love your CCP bosses.

"One is a scared chihuahua" from the 5'7" midget? OK. How scared one has to be, desperately trying to make allies for online flame wars?

"2009 like beta and alpha male" - a bunch of your old posts in these very threads included your usage of alpha and beta male and how sleeping in your own car to save rent made you an alpha.

" off-putting" - oh yeah, you are a charm, alright. Total ninny.

"The obsession is flattering" - more foolishness. As soon as I posted a little CCP bashing, you came running in with your tail up. Perhaps you are paid to do so. You are in a running feud with dozens on this site; the only attention you ever get and crave in life is from these fights apparently. Loser CCP troll is a good line of work for you.[/QUOTE]My my, the company you keep does reinforce a lot. Accuses and bashes others for "making allies" but comes running to the aid of the village Aspergers kid. How utterly self unaware.

Apparently, you don't understand the difference between hate mongering, promotion of deportation, and promotion of genocide versus locker room jest. Much like other people with your rigid profile, talking about race gets your butt hole to pucker. Any mention of race or joke in jest is apparently inappropriate in your eyes. Consistent with someone unable to see the nuance of human nature, a programmed robot, groomed only for the corporate world and not actual healthy human interactions. Reality checkCm, we're not in your office.

I'm no alpha, I'm a free man who does what he wants when he wants it. It doesn't seem like you live the same reality. That's exemplified by your tendency to constantly get hung up on random details and fabricate a whole imaginary reality. Little lady, I car camp because I'm free and enjoy it, not because I have to. Oh look, Hilton Diamond and Marriott Platinum member. Go shit a big turd, it might loosen that tight asshole a bit.

[QUOTE]As soon as I posted a little CCP bashing, you came running in with your tail up. Perhaps you are paid to do so. [/QUOTE]The normal human response would have been, "oh shit, promoting genocide and mass deportation is actually a shitty thing to do. My bad. "

[QUOTE=Pistons;2624257]Too bad I can only post 10 at a time. Got a few more here, though I still haven't opened nearly 3000 myself.[/QUOTE]Oh no, we're all very grateful for this limitation!

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624684]Screen play summary:

Neurosynth makes blatantly obvious comment that Seeing a hooker in person tells you more than simple internet ads.

Pessimists attacks him for only God knows why for making a pretty universally obvious point.

Neurosynth points out that his observation was obvious.

Pessimist is strange and is insulted, writes ensuing novel because, well, he's a 4 out of 10 quality human.[/QUOTE]Neurosynth's comment was uninformed and senseless. He has no fucking clue, like you, how sugaring sites work. He made some ridiculous point about email and GIFs. For your purpose, you gloss over it because you are a deceitful scumbag and ignoring inconvenient facts is what you do.

Obviously a plankton like you with a single cell for a brain can't understand most of what I typed in the comment you referred; anything more than a single syllable must be taxing.

What I want to know is why you wade into stuff that has nothing to do with you. Like a cognitively impaired dimwit you attack one of my original comments about CCP's genocide. You post 2 replies to every one of mine. Then you make the absurd claim that I am following you. Seriously, do you think people can't see the timeline and which post followed what?

I don't know if you suffered a head blow when you got smuggled into the country and have some mental health problems as a consequence. Generally, the Asians I ran into in this country are smart, accomplished, and self-contained. I guess you serve to bring down that community's averages to more normal levels.

Sidebar, this is the type of alpha-dom all men should work toward. Catches ball bare-handed, kid and beer both protected.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/CTZtW6PHd7m/?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2624842]"Would-be Nazi sympathizer" - from the [b]fopdoodle[/b] that calls women Karens, Turks something, Asians chinky ching chongs, Blacks something else, older dudes something, gays fags, blah blah. You are walking pit of hatred against humanity; no wonder you love your CCP bosses.
[/QUOTE]Am I talking to a real 21st century human? Do people look at you funny when you talk in public? You're most definitely a Larry.

Fopdoodle, literally a world marked as obsolete.

[QUOTE]fopdoodle (plural fopdoodles)

(obsolete) A stupid person; a fool, a simpleton. [/QUOTE][QUOTE] Fopdoodle meaning

(obsolete) A stupid or insignificant fellow; a fool; a simpleton.[/QUOTE][QUOTE] Fopdoodle. n.

1. An insignificant fellow. (Vulgar and not used.)[/QUOTE]What kind of an out of touch tool talks like this? Geezus, you're hopeless.

Fitting though, since accusing other Americans of patriotic disloyalty is one of your past times, you belong with the old fuckers of the 1960's McCarthy era Communist witch hunt. Weak human.

Hey guys yesterday Germany had the highest number of new covid 19 cases in the world at over 50,000. Does not look good for travel.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2625059]Hey guys yesterday Germany had the highest number of new covid 19 cases in the world at over 50,000. Does not look good for travel.[/QUOTE]Here are rules travelling from the US on a US passport.

Unvacinated.

Unvaccinated travelers from United States (+188 additional countries) are not allowed to enter Germany for non-essential reasons.

Entry restrictions do not apply to:

-German citizens and their immediate family members traveling with them;.

-German legal residents and their unmarried partners with proof;.

-Transit travelers who stay in the airport transit area;.

-EU permanent residents or long-term visa holders returning home;.

-Citizens of the EU, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, Norway, and Iceland and their spouse, unmarried minor children, and parents of minors;.

-Fully vaccinated travelers with accepted proof.

Travelers who are not fully vaccinated must have a negative COVID-19 test result. The test can be a nucleic acid test (PCR, LAMP, or TMA) taken a maximum of 72 hours before arrival or an antigen test taken a maximum of 48 hours before arrival.

Antigen tests must meet the minimum criteria recommended by the WHO with at least 80% sensitivity and 97% specificity. Test results can be in German, English, French, Italian, or Spanish.

Travelers with access to the EU Digital Certificate may use it to present proof.

Unvaccinated travelers who have been in United States (+ 77 additional countries) in the 10 days before entry may be required to quarantine at home for 10 days on arrival in Germany. The quarantine can be terminated earlier upon submission of proof of recovery, vaccination, or COVID-19 testing into the Digital Registration portal.

No quarantine is required if the proof is submitted before arrival via the pre-registration form available online.

In the case of the submission of a COVID-19 test certificate after arrival, the test must be taken not earlier than 5 days after arrival.

Travelers who have spent time in countries designated as areas of virus variants of concern in the past 10 days before travel must quarantine regardless of vaccination status.

The list of designated areas of variants of concern is regularly updated and can be found in the source.

Vaccinated.

Fully vaccinated travelers from United States (+ 188 additional countries) are allowed to enter Germany.

Fully vaccinated travelers are not required to have negative COVID-19 test results before traveling to Germany.

Vaccinated travelers arriving from United States (+ 77 additional countries) can be exempted from quarantine unless they have spent time in a designated area of variants of concern in the past 10 days before travel.

The list of designated areas of variants of concern is regularly updated.

Fear not. They change these Covid hot spot places like posters here change sex partners.

Austria is more concerned with the ski slope euro and thus their draconian measures.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625036]Am I talking to a real 21st century human? Do people look at you funny when you talk in public? You're most definitely a Larry.

Fopdoodle, literally a world marked as obsolete.

What kind of an out of touch tool talks like this? Geezus, you're hopeless.

Fitting though, since accusing other Americans of patriotic disloyalty is one of your past times, you belong with the old fuckers of the 1960's McCarthy era Communist witch hunt. Weak human.[/QUOTE]What a moron! Do you need to look up the dictionary for every 2nd word? Google translate into whatever fucking lingo you are more comfortable with?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624993]I'm no alpha..[/QUOTE]No kidding. But in your past comment history. With this current moronic handle or Samson or takedown or one of your other fucking handles, you bragged for days about being an alpha. That itself is OK except now you are ragging on someone else for even using the word alpha / beta. Thuggish hypocrite, as usual.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2624993]I'm a free man who does..[/QUOTE]Free man who follows the orders of CCP killers from China.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2625059]Hey guys yesterday Germany had the highest number of new covid 19 cases in the world at over 50,000. Does not look good for travel.[/QUOTE]You know, I wasn't worried about the cases all that much but now with deaths popping, it's getting hairy. The next week in hospitalization numbers will be of most importance.

American reality that both Europeans who've never lived in America and Americans who have never lived outside of America just can't fully understand or don't want to accept. Especially 00:25 to 2:15.

[URL] https://youtu.be/2LJ8nBgEA2Q&t=0m25s[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2625084]No kidding. But in your past comment history. With this current moronic handle or Samson or takedown or one of your other fucking handles, you bragged for days about being an alpha. That itself is OK except now you are ragging on someone else for even using the word alpha / beta. Thuggish hypocrite, as usual.[/QUOTE]Quote it. I'll wait.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625087]You know, I wasn't worried about the cases all that much but now with deaths popping, it's getting hairy. The next week in hospitalization numbers will be of most importance.[/QUOTE]Some German big cities hospitals are full, delaying other operations, not good time in Saxe, around Berlin. Winter = cold is arriving in Germany. Minus zero at night.

On Russia / China border on Amour river, cluster in West China so they made a 13000 € reward, big money in China, to tell who bring covid. If You don t like your neighbor, or if you have Oedipe complex, or want to get rid of your wife, just have to give them as bringing covid. Really safe to live in China where people disappear.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2625081]What a moron! Do you need to look up the dictionary for every 2nd word? Google translate into whatever fucking lingo you are more comfortable with?[/QUOTE]Hoodlems! Scoundrels! Those darn canoodling whippersnappers!

What a bunch of malarkey!

6 sens in NL on German border close now at 8 pm, when cases are increasing in NL. Norway is now on third dose for older than 12. Fifth dose is covering Europe.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625441]Hoodlems! Scoundrels! Those darn canoodling whippersnappers!

What a bunch of malarkey![/QUOTE]Malarkey? It was semi cute when Biden said it 40 years ago. Not when the 40 something CCP troll plagiarizes it.

Language does not get thrown out every 3 years like a recycled iPhone. Words and phrases you grew up with in the family stay with you. Hard for the stowaway nutcase to understand.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625147]American reality that both Europeans who've never lived in America and Americans who have never lived outside of America just can't fully understand or don't want to accept. Especially 00:25 to 2:15.

[URL] https://youtu.be/2LJ8nBgEA2Q&t=0m25s[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't see the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as overly involved with immigration. There was a group of people in the USA Before that and did that. Calling the melting pot thing an experiment is nonsensical considering all the migrations and intermixing of humankind and other hominids in history and prehistory. It seems like political rhetoric to me. I imagine it is good political rhetoric nonetheless. It does seem dumb though. It is akin to rewriting history.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2625478]Malarkey? It was semi cute when Biden said it 40 years ago. Not when the 40 something CCP troll plagiarizes it.

Language does not get thrown out every 3 years like a recycled iPhone. Words and phrases you grew up with in the family stay with you. Hard for the stowaway nutcase to understand.[/QUOTE]40 something? LOL.

Methinks you should pull your knickers out of your pantaloons Larry.

[QUOTE]Old Man Word 97: Fopdoodle

1. An insignificant fellow. (Vulgar and not used.)

1828 Definition of a Fopdoodle

I have to be honest with this one. Even amongst the large-diapers set, fopdoodle is pretty quaint. It hasnt been removed from the dictionary [b]so some old mother must use the term[/b] but chaps who say fopdoodle are dandies. Swells. Persnickety snoots too big for their urine-soaked britches. Uppity fops.

[url]https://oldmanwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/09/old-man-word-97-fopdoodle/[/url]


Although fopdoodle was already considered archaic in the 1880s, it still appeared in print regularly; notably in a poem from 1881 .[/QUOTE]Malarkey I tell ya. Malarkey!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2625473]6 sens in NL on German border close now at 8 pm, when cases are increasing in NL. Norway is now on third dose for older than 12. Fifth dose is covering Europe.[/QUOTE]Fifth wave.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625087]You know, I wasn't worried about the cases all that much but now with deaths popping, it's getting hairy. The next week in hospitalization numbers will be of most importance.[/QUOTE]After Austria going 2 G, with the evolution in Germany it's possible that they will go 2 G as well soon. In Switzerland we are told that 2 G is not yet necessary. Seems that next measure will be opening booster shots for the general population.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2625473]6 sens in NL on German border close now at 8 pm, when cases are increasing in NL. Norway is now on third dose for older than 12. Fifth dose is covering Europe.[/QUOTE]My mistake for Norway, now third dose but for older than 18. Very high covid cases rate now in Austria, also in ex DDR part in Germany, increasing fast in NL, Belgium and UK. Some hospitals there being already full. In France, some vaccinated since 6 months are now badly sick. Is Pfizer fucking the world with vaccine only efficient for 3 days? Wish at least not to be more sick after than before vaccine when I feel really fine, powerful for sport, even after more than 35 visits on this year, many also on 2020 reopening, kissing, datying, so many in Germany, NL, Switzerland, Austria. As I told my elegant who told me: orgasm exhaust me, so she prefers not, needing time to recover after, but you found my point she said, when most important for me with kissing, when most intimate for girls and reminding me my sexuality with girlfriends. So much more interesting and enjoyable game than porn sex for me and my regulars would not accept in public, like Megan at Globe who didn't even want in Spartacus close to lounge.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2625473]6 sens in NL on German border close now at 8 pm, when cases are increasing in NL. Norway is now on third dose for older than 12. Fifth dose is covering Europe.[/QUOTE]I never understood how closing at night stops covid?

So covid is not transmitted in the daytime? I would think that keeping open at night and capacity limits would thin the crowd and keep a lower occupancy averaged throughout the entire timespan and thus be safer.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2625655]My mistake for Norway, now third dose but for older than 18. Very high covid cases rate now in Austria, also in ex DDR part in Germany, increasing fast in NL, Belgium and UK. Some hospitals there being already full. In France, some vaccinated since 6 months are now badly sick. Is Pfizer fucking the world with vaccine only efficient for 3 days? Wish at least not to be more sick after than before vaccine when I feel really fine, powerful for sport, even after more than 35 visits on this year, many also on 2020 reopening, kissing, datying, so many in Germany, NL, Switzerland, Austria. As I told my elegant who told me: orgasm exhaust me, so she prefers not, needing time to recover after, but you found my point she said, when most important for me with kissing, when most intimate for girls and reminding me my sexuality with girlfriends. So much more interesting and enjoyable game than porn sex for me and my regulars would not accept in public, like Megan at Globe who didn't even want in Spartacus close to lounge.[/QUOTE]During the flu wave a few years ago there were over 700 patients on intensive care in Norway from flu alone. Now there are about 150 covid patients on intensive care. Guess how many people with flu there are on intensive care now? I'll let the smart ones ponder about that. Then I'll respond later if you manage somewhat of a correct answer. LOL.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2625604]After Austria going 2 G, with the evolution in Germany it's possible that they will go 2 G as well soon. In Switzerland we are told that 2 G is not yet necessary. Seems that next measure will be opening booster shots for the general population.[/QUOTE]Berlin goes to 2 G on Monday.

[URL]https://www.berlin.de/en/news/coronavirus/7081102-6098215-berlin-introduces-extensive-2G-rule.en.html[/URL]

At first, I didn't understand why things are worse in continental Europe than UK or USA. Then I looked at booster data. UK 4 X more booster per capita than De / EU and USA is 2 X.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccine-booster-doses-per-capita?country=USA~DEU~European+Union~GBR[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625540]40 something? LOL.

Methinks you should pull your knickers out of your pantaloons Larry.

Malarkey I tell ya. Malarkey![/QUOTE]You are a hoot, alright. Desperately looking to belong, blend in. Did you learn English by watching kung fu movies? Who the fuck looks up words to decide if they are still in vogue? Just another sign of diffidence. Explains why you are always looking to build a posse even for online flame fights. And your contention that you can gather more from a 2 minute "baby where you go" convo with a bored Romie than an hour of dinner with a real woman. I wonder if you lost your virginity in these fuck clubs!

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2625783]You are a hoot, alright. Desperately looking to belong, blend in. Did you learn English by watching kung fu movies? Who the fuck looks up words to decide if they are still in vogue? Just another sign of diffidence. Explains why you are always looking to build a posse even for online flame fights. And your contention that you can gather more from a 2 minute "baby where you go" convo with a bored Romie than an hour of dinner with a real woman. I wonder if you lost your virginity in these fuck clubs![/QUOTE]Kick the robot, he's stuck in a loop again.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2625689]I never understood how closing at night stops covid?

So covid is not transmitted in the daytime? I would think that keeping open at night and capacity limits would thin the crowd and keep a lower occupancy averaged throughout the entire timespan and thus be safer.[/QUOTE]Now, no room after 6 pm at 6 sens NL. Clubs have to respect law if they don't want to be closed, when GT didn't reopen on 2020 reopening.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2625719]During the flu wave a few years ago there were over 700 patients on intensive care in Norway from flu alone. Now there are about 150 covid patients on intensive care. Guess how many people with flu there are on intensive care now? I'll let the smart ones ponder about that. Then I'll respond later if you manage somewhat of a correct answer. LOL.[/QUOTE]I didn't write Norway is the worst rate, but they are already on third dose for older than 18. Highest rates are Austria with more than 700/100 000, some German parts with 900/100 000. UK with around 300/100 000. In France, we have in 20's or 30's people without known health risk and vaccinated since 6 months, who are now badly sick from covid. Wish not to be worst after vaccine than before, when finished my 3 months Summer tour today, fighting in cold and windy, 5 degrees but less for sensation with wind, on last 5 kilometers on top of Ventoux from Bedoin. For my last day, when climbed from Malaucene yesterday, more than 3000 meters climbing on this week end for final, climbed 4 times Ventoux on October / November, more than 35 000 meters high on this Summer, not taking pills nor cafeine as told by a 21 yo Danish racer who preferred to stop rather than taking like others, so I decided I could move deeply inside my flesh, killing my body in windy and cold. But You don t get covid above Reynard chalet, even in cold and wind. Ski in Austria maybe with 2 G when Austria want to put under lockdown those who are not. Pass for ski in France with no more antigen but only PCR for tests.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2625689]I never understood how closing at night stops covid?

So covid is not transmitted in the daytime? I would think that keeping open at night and capacity limits would thin the crowd and keep a lower occupancy averaged throughout the entire timespan and thus be safer.[/QUOTE]The reasoning in large cities in the States was that night crowds were drinking crowds and masking and distancing was thrown out the window.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2625530]I don't see the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as overly involved with immigration. There was a group of people in the USA Before that and did that. Calling the melting pot thing an experiment is nonsensical considering all the migrations and intermixing of humankind and other hominids in history and prehistory. It seems like political rhetoric to me. I imagine it is good political rhetoric nonetheless. It does seem dumb though. It is akin to rewriting history.[/QUOTE]You're certainly right in that the melting pot idea was not the experiment that was intended when the Constitution was established. That term was mis-allocated in the video as "experiment" was supposed to refer to the "experiment of democracy. " Nonetheless, the melting pot claim came to fruition as America established citizenship by birthright, just soli. Most of the Western hemisphere / Americas did follow suit but it remains a foreign concept in most of the old world.

There are many Americans who retain the old world point of view but I relegate them to a dying perspective. But a pet peeve of mine is when immigrants who obtain American citizenship themselves still don't refer to themselves as American. The American mindset is clear though. Various people with European backgrounds have become automatically accepted as American (Not the case with Europeans in other European countries). Black Americans are also unquestioned. People of Hispanic origin are increasingly becoming American first as their numbers grow. Asians have a bit further to go and they are often their own worst enemies in this process.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625759]Berlin goes to 2 G on Monday.

[URL]https://www.berlin.de/en/news/coronavirus/7081102-6098215-berlin-introduces-extensive-2G-rule.en.html[/URL]

At first, I didn't understand why things are worse in continental Europe than UK or USA. Then I looked at booster data. UK 4 X more booster per capita than De / EU and USA is 2 X.

[URL]https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccine-booster-doses-per-capita?country=USA~DEU~European+Union~GBR[/URL][/QUOTE]What a fool you are!

Don't you see that Europe just relabelled RSV into covid in order for countries to force through the boosters?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625878]You're certainly right in that the melting pot idea was not the experiment that was intended when the Constitution was established. That term was mis-allocated in the video as "experiment" was supposed to refer to the "experiment of democracy. " Nonetheless, the melting pot claim came to fruition as America established citizenship by birthright, just soli. Most of the Western hemisphere / Americas did follow suit but it remains a foreign concept in most of the old world.

There are many Americans who retain the old world point of view but I relegate them to a dying perspective. But a pet peeve of mine is when immigrants who obtain American citizenship themselves still don't refer to themselves as American. The American mindset is clear though. Various people with European backgrounds have become automatically accepted as American (Not the case with Europeans in other European countries). Black Americans are also unquestioned. People of Hispanic origin are increasingly becoming American first as their numbers grow. Asians have a bit further to go and they are often their own worst enemies in this process.[/QUOTE]An interesting fact that I learned is that the US at the time of the founding fathers had a fascination with the Romans. That is the reasons for the architecture with columns on monuments and colonial homes. They gave their pets Roman names. It was taught at the Universities, etc. They got the idea of democracy from Plato and Aristotle. They brought over University professors over from Scotland to teach it. I stand corrected. I can see how people consider it an experiment.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2625406]On Russia / China border on Amour river, cluster in West China so they made a 13000 reward, big money in China, to tell who bring covid. If You don t like your neighbor, or if you have Oedipe complex, or want to get rid of your wife, just have to give them as bringing covid. Really safe to live in China where people disappear.[/QUOTE]35 yo tennis woman who had problem with a 75 yo Chinese politics, disappeared, like some who were too talkative about covid in China. Land of freedom and safety for free thinking. Can compete with Putin.

[QUOTE=Sailor501;2625782]Where do you find spot.[/QUOTE]Ahahah this is getting funny.

Even the quality of the line up in this forum is spiraling downwards.

Who agrees? LOL.

Summer is now finished, finished my Summer tour yesterday in cold, 5 degrees, and wind above Rainard chalet. Even experienced minus zero night when leaving Sharks at 3 am. According to covid rates in Germany, Belgium and NL, France is now controlling arrivals from these countries with 24 hours PCR test, but no brothels in France. Fifth wave arriving in EU.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2625878]You're certainly right in that the melting pot idea was not the experiment that was intended when the Constitution was established. That term was mis-allocated in the video as "experiment" was supposed to refer to the "experiment of democracy. " Nonetheless, the melting pot claim came to fruition as America established citizenship by birthright, just soli. Most of the Western hemisphere / Americas did follow suit but it remains a foreign concept in most of the old world.

There are many Americans who retain the old world point of view but I relegate them to a dying perspective. But a pet peeve of mine is when immigrants who obtain American citizenship themselves still don't refer to themselves as American. The American mindset is clear though. Various people with European backgrounds have become automatically accepted as American (Not the case with Europeans in other European countries). Black Americans are also unquestioned. People of Hispanic origin are increasingly becoming American first as their numbers grow. Asians have a bit further to go and they are often their own worst enemies in this process.[/QUOTE]You seem to be an extremely intelligent person to have seen the error in my thinking and then to have communicated that to me.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2625921]An interesting fact that I learned is that the US at the time of the founding fathers had a fascination with the Romans. That is the reasons for the architecture with columns on monuments and colonial homes. They gave their pets Roman names. It was taught at the Universities, etc. They got the idea of democracy from Plato and Aristotle. They brought over University professors over from Scotland to teach it. I stand corrected. I can see how people consider it an experiment.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-cincinnatus-came-to-be-the-symbol-of-our-civic-virtue/[/URL]

Go see how Cincinati got its name. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati[/URL]#Etymology.

Several of the leading American terrorists in the self styled Continental Army (run by slave owner George Washington), which were auxilliaries helping the French and the Red Indian allies, were big into that shit, some of them returning to their salve plantations and black sex slaves after the French won American Independence (sic).

[QUOTE=Pistons;2625898]What a fool you are!

Don't you see that Europe just relabelled RSV into covid in order for countries to force through the boosters?[/QUOTE]Where did you find that? YouTube or Facebook?

[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2626011]Ahahah this is getting funny. Even the quality of the line up in this forum is spiraling downwards. Who agrees? LOL.[/QUOTE]It has never been better. .

The just soli citizenship in the USA is permanent and cannot be changed because it is part of the 14th Amendment to the US constitution. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

This was ratified after the 13th Amendment (abolishing slavery) and was enacted to make all the freed slaves citizens (since they were all born in a slave state at the time). Thus the freeing of the slaves lead to an invasion of pregnant Mexicans crossing the border to have one of their kids born as a US citizen in order to make it easier for the rest of their family or to have the US born kid send money back to Mexico when he became old enough to work.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2626097]Where did you find that? YouTube or Facebook?[/QUOTE]Maybe an unemployed dog portrait painter wrote something on Facebook.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2626095][URL]https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-cincinnatus-came-to-be-the-symbol-of-our-civic-virtue/[/URL]

Go see how Cincinati got its name. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati[/URL]#Etymology.

Several of the leading American terrorists in the self styled Continental Army (run by slave owner George Washington), which were auxilliaries helping the French and the Red Indian allies, were big into that shit, some of them returning to their salve plantations and black sex slaves after the French won American Independence (sic).[/QUOTE]Cincinnati is in the North. Do Europeans think Americans invented slavery? It sounds like you are French.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2626095][URL]https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-cincinnatus-came-to-be-the-symbol-of-our-civic-virtue/[/URL]

Go see how Cincinati got its name. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati[/URL]#Etymology.

Several of the leading American terrorists in the self styled Continental Army (run by slave owner George Washington), which were auxilliaries helping the French and the Red Indian allies, were big into that shit, some of them returning to their salve plantations and black sex slaves after the French won American Independence (sic).[/QUOTE]The US had less intermixing than Latin America. [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] proves genetic connections.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2626162]The just soli citizenship in the USA is permanent and cannot be changed because it is part of the 14th Amendment to the US constitution. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. "

This was ratified after the 13th Amendment (abolishing slavery) and was enacted to make all the freed slaves citizens (since they were all born in a slave state at the time). Thus the freeing of the slaves lead to an invasion of pregnant Mexicans crossing the border to have one of their kids born as a US citizen in order to make it easier for the rest of their family or to have the US born kid send money back to Mexico when he became old enough to work.[/QUOTE]Texas border established statehood in 1845. Texas says "Nah" and secedes from the USA in 1861. Rejoined USA in 1865.

14th Amendment 1868.

Mexicans being descendants of Indigenous Americans from 10,000 BC to 1845 BCE. 19 years of claim versus 12,000 years. Such atrocities of anchor baby parents. Hah!

Perspective and frame of reference is significant.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2626182]Maybe an unemployed dog portrait painter wrote something on Facebook.[/QUOTE]Eh, he's suggesting that RSV cases, a relatively insignificant respiratory illness in adults is being confounded to falsely inflate covid numbers. Yeah that makes perfect since.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2626101]It has never been better..[/QUOTE]Are you two guys lovers.

50.000 more cases daily in Germany, so PCR tests are again for free when had to pay for lately in Germany. In Berlin, restaurants and others only for 2 G. In Austria, lockdown for not vaccinated. Some lockdown even in NL. Winter may be again under covid. Fortunately made great Summer like previous, but wish can ski on this Winter, when not since 2019, wish I didn't forget.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2626097]Where did you find that? YouTube or Facebook?[/QUOTE]Personal and statistical experience.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2626235]The US had less intermixing than Latin America. [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] proves genetic connections.[/QUOTE]Well Paraguay ate the cake in terms of this when they made it illegal for American Indians to date American Indians, and for Spanish to date other Spanish. Every couple was by law intermixed.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2626235]The US had less intermixing than Latin America. [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] proves genetic connections.[/QUOTE]And as a result, Paraguay today is the most genetically homogenous country in Latin America. Weird how that ends up huh?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2626278]Eh, he's suggesting that RSV cases, a relatively insignificant respiratory illness in adults is being confounded to falsely inflate covid numbers. Yeah that makes perfect since.[/QUOTE]It used to be insignificant. Until they relabeled covid into RSV in order to show some vaccine effectiveness earlier this year. But now they rebranded it back into covid.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2626656]Well Paraguay ate the cake in terms of this when they made it illegal for American Indians to date American Indians, and for Spanish to date other Spanish. Every couple was by law intermixed.[/QUOTE]As the norm, the statement by this one is once again partially correct but ultimately false. Others may want to factcheck the details of Paraguay's transracial marriage history before making this exact claim at dinner parties.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2626450]50.000 more cases daily in Germany, so PCR tests are again for free when had to pay for lately in Germany. In Berlin, restaurants and others only for 2 G. In Austria, lockdown for not vaccinated. Some lockdown even in NL. Winter may be again under covid. Fortunately made great Summer like previous, but wish can ski on this Winter, when not since 2019, wish I didn't forget.[/QUOTE]For a one night layover in Darmstadt (plan to visit Sharks) Can you suggest any free testing sites that can provide results quickly and meet US entry requirement?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2626986]As the norm, the statement by this one is once again partially correct but ultimately false. Others may want to factcheck the details of Paraguay's transracial marriage history before making this exact claim at dinner parties.[/QUOTE]Right, as if the only thing that matters is not related to European males. LOL!

It seems that as of next week 2 G+ will be required in high risk locations such as Disco's, Carnaval, etc. If Saunaclubs also fall into this?

Let's hope not! 2 G+ means either Vaccinated or Cured, PLUS ALWAYS ADDITIONAL negative test.

[URL]https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/landespolitik/landesregierung-corona-100.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Apollo946;2627014]For a one night layover in Darmstadt (plan to visit Sharks) Can you suggest any free testing sites that can provide results quickly and meet US entry requirement?[/QUOTE]Only PCR now, now for free in Germany because many new cases, no more fast tests as Sharks proposed.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2627331]It seems that as of next week 2 G+ will be required in high risk locations such as Disco's, Carnaval, etc. If Saunaclubs also fall into this?

Let's hope not! 2 G+ means either Vaccinated or Cured, PLUS ALWAYS ADDITIONAL negative test.

[URL]https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/landespolitik/landesregierung-corona-100.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Restaurants, sports inside places are already only for 2 G in Berlin. When Germany is down under so many new cases with some hospitals being full, mainly in ex DDR, should turn to 2 G and maybe less than 24 hours PCR where rates explode. Fast tests for clients and also girls disappeared at Sharks on 11 November. Unfortunately, rates are also increasing a lot in France with nearly 20.000 new daily vs 50.000 in Germany, when vaccine seem efficient just for tomorrow but not much after 6 months. Wish at least not to be less resistant and healthy after dose than before. Winter may be a bit complicated for girls business when I already saw some pretty and really good but not full busy, even some on 50/30 rate, at least 100/60 GFE for me, when a bit funny to hear or read girls would not ask same rate to all of us, even when not Asian. At least, despite covid, could find some really pretty and good girls on this year for 10 1 hour rooms with a fresh natural sweet supermodel look and I would have more than 10 when only 6, if I was a better hunter when she needed to ask me if I wanted her and we were at Sharks on same time with my best elegant natural I find prettier and prettier each time, so, worthing to keep on.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2627331]It seems that as of next week 2 G+ will be required in high risk locations such as Disco's, Carnaval, etc. If Saunaclubs also fall into this?

Let's hope not! 2 G+ means either Vaccinated or Cured, PLUS ALWAYS ADDITIONAL negative test.

[URL]https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/landespolitik/landesregierung-corona-100.html[/URL][/QUOTE]As I understand from my German source, Saunaclubs, etc fall into the same category as Disco's, etc, in the current (regulation, let's hope this will be not the case for the new regulation for next week.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2627156]Right, as if the only thing that matters is not related to European males. LOL![/QUOTE]False claims nonetheless and even this recent statement is not correct. Indigenous people were allowed to marry each other. Transracial marriages were allowed. Only Spaniards were not allowed to marry each other. No laws regulated anything about other Europeans, although that's probably not much of a factor at the time. Also no laws restricting dating, just marriage.

Point is, the habitual tendency to take partial truths and turn them into false claims continues to make any of your claims unreliable, especially regarding other topics where details matter a great deal.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2627334]Only PCR now, now for free in Germany because many new cases, no more fast tests as Sharks proposed.[/QUOTE]So basically Germany is conceding that the rapid tests were all garbage if the only real test they think is accurate is the PCR.

The PCR has tons of problems because people need to go to multiple locations first the Apothotek and then wait at least 24 hours for the result. By that time they could have taken matters in their own hand instead of going to the club to find a girl.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2627443]So basically Germany is conceding that the rapid tests were all garbage if the only real test they think is accurate is the PCR.

The PCR has tons of problems because people need to go to multiple locations first the Apothotek and then wait at least 24 hours for the result. By that time they could have taken matters in their own hand instead of going to the club to find a girl.[/QUOTE]Antigen / Rapid. Good to see if definitively contagious but will not catch all positives. More false negatives but more also more clinically useful, especially to determine danger in social environments.

PCR. More sensitive but may produce clinically irrelevant true positives.

In essence, antigen should be used more often.

Apologies for bringing up this question but I'm still unsure of the situation.

I'm due to visit Sharks at the end of next week (from overseas) for the day and have documentation showing I've been double vaccinated. Indeed I've also a document to confirm I've recently recovered from unfortunately catching Covid.

My last few recent visits to Sharks have just required me to show ID & written confirmation of my double vaccination at the entrance to Sharks.

However Will I now need a completed PCR test result?

If yes I will probably cancel the day trip.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2627443]So basically Germany is conceding that the rapid tests were all garbage if the only real test they think is accurate is the PCR.

The PCR has tons of problems because people need to go to multiple locations first the Apothotek and then wait at least 24 hours for the result. By that time they could have taken matters in their own hand instead of going to the club to find a girl.[/QUOTE]Germany have big problem right now with 50 000 new cases daily, so they try to put pressure to vaccinate, when PCR are not so easy than fast antigen. I made so many fast tests at Sharks on this Summer, now PCR before leaving France.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2627392]As I understand from my German source, Saunaclubs, etc fall into the same category as Disco's, etc, in the current (regulation, let's hope this will be not the case for the new regulation for next week.[/QUOTE]When it will be 2 G+ next week (for disco, clubs, etc), you need to be Vaccinated (or Cure) but ALSO need an antigen test (max 6 hours old) or PCR test (max 24/48 hours old?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2627498]Antigen / Rapid. Good to see if definitively contagious but will not catch all positives. More false negatives but more also more clinically useful, especially to determine danger in social environments.

PCR. More sensitive but may produce clinically irrelevant true positives.

In essence, antigen should be used more often.[/QUOTE]Early treatment is key to avoid the hospital. That in mind, I'm wondering which test is better? Wouldn't a PCR give a physician more time to admin early treatment than the rapid? I always insist on both tests at the urgent care clinic.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2627427]False claims nonetheless and even this recent statement is not correct. Indigenous people were allowed to marry each other. Transracial marriages were allowed. Only Spaniards were not allowed to marry each other. No laws regulated anything about other Europeans, although that's probably not much of a factor at the time. Also no laws restricting dating, just marriage.

Point is, the habitual tendency to take partial truths and turn them into false claims continues to make any of your claims unreliable, especially regarding other topics where details matter a great deal.[/QUOTE]What's half a micropenis then?

[QUOTE=Maxime;2627532]When it will be 2 G+ next week (for disco, clubs, etc), you need to be Vaccinated (or Cure) but ALSO need an antigen test (max 6 hours old) or PCR test (max 24/48 hours old?[/QUOTE]So 2 G plus basically prohibits non vaccinated from going to FKK.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2627553]Early treatment is key to avoid the hospital. That in mind, I'm wondering which test is better? Wouldn't a PCR give a physician more time to admin early treatment than the rapid? I always insist on both tests at the urgent care clinic.[/QUOTE]For early screening for the purpose of treatment, yes. But for late stage disease, PCR is often positive for weeks and months due to shedding of inert vial DNA. It's not a false positive per se, but essentially clinically irrelevant.

For the purposes of screening people to prevent transmission, the rapid antigen test is the most appropriate test. Not to say that negative antigen tests rules out transmission completely, but it the low number of infectious antigen-negative but PCR-positive people make it negligible at the population level.

In many hospitals, an antigen-negative test is all that is required to allow a patient to be placed in a non-isolation room. Furthermore, after 10 days from a positive test, isolation precautions are removed from that patient.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2627571]What's half a micropenis then?[/QUOTE]The difference between our exchanges is much like your assertions versus a decent human's: Asinine claims versus reality. As such, it must suck to be ugly, financially limited, and worthless to society.

312 positive /100 000 in whole Germany and even more in ex DDR. Dramatic situation tell Angela before leaving. Munich Christmas market is cancelled. Working from home when possible should be decided. In Germany, they tell about fourth wave, when fifth in EU. Maybe because Germany managed better on our first wave, but really not now when they have already nearly 100 000 deaths. Around 750 000 in US, maybe why pushing to vaccinate for January when working in more than 100 employees companies.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2626801]It is very odd that you avoid to mention specific sites and it makes me wonder why that is, but hey if you are fucking every day with such a level of sugar babes in USA as you claim you do with some photos you got from google images, then I recommend not to fly long distance to fuck in Germany because hey, if you can find such level of girls in USA for only 300 USD to 500 USD, then it make rational sense to stay there, right?

It is bit like someone claim to have Porsche 911 Turbo S and shows me photos, but whenever I see the guy, he come with taxi saying it is in the garage for maintenance LOL! But whatever make the person happy LOL![/QUOTE]It would help if you could read English. And have some processing power. Such as IQ exceeding 50.

All the info has been provided. More than once. I said RTFF. I guess you did not get the hint.

When was the last time you actually had sex with a real girl? I bet you hold the record for # posts to # real sex sessions ratio.

P.S. Did anyone tell you LOL is not a punctuation mark?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2627852]It would help if you could read English. And have some processing power. Such as IQ exceeding 50.

All the info has been provided. More than once. I said RTFF. I guess you did not get the hint.

When was the last time you actually had sex with a real girl? I bet you hold the record for # posts to # real sex sessions ratio.

P.S. Did anyone tell you LOL is not a punctuation mark?[/QUOTE]Hahahah the unraveling of this tight ass continues. I thought robots weren't supposed to be emotional?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2627926]Hahahah the unraveling of this tight ass continues. I thought robots weren't supposed to be emotional?[/QUOTE]You got some serious mental issues. You're a fantasist without any real life. Your behaviour isn't normal, you do understand that you come across as pathetic?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2627852]It would help if you could read English. And have some processing power. Such as IQ exceeding 50.

All the info has been provided. More than once. I said RTFF. I guess you did not get the hint.

When was the last time you actually had sex with a real girl? I bet you hold the record for # posts to # real sex sessions ratio.

P.S. Did anyone tell you LOL is not a punctuation mark?[/QUOTE]Thank you for putting it straight, but I think the best thing to do is to not engage the two Asian weirdos. They thrive on here, they don't have anything to live for other than to come on this forum and write their BS.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2627969]Thank you for putting it straight, but I think the best thing to do is to not engage the two Asian weirdos. They thrive on here, they don't have anything to live for other than to come on this forum and write their BS.[/QUOTE]Race War! You're trash if you were real.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2627968]You got some serious mental issues. You're a fantasist without any real life. Your behaviour isn't normal, you do understand that you come across as pathetic?[/QUOTE]I'm not perfect but clearly at least I'm not last.

When you're running from a bear, you don't have to be the fastest, just faster than the slow fat guy. Thanks for being my slow fat guy.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2627968]You got some serious mental issues. You're a fantasist without any real life. Your behaviour isn't normal, you do understand that you come across as pathetic?[/QUOTE]But he is jammed full of nanoworms from the vaccine, and controlled through next generation MRI, 5 G and his new phone. So no wonder he sounds like a non-conscious fool.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2627596]The difference between our exchanges is much like your assertions versus a decent human's: Asinine claims versus reality. As such, it must suck to be ugly, financially limited, and worthless to society.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't know.

Here is my ABC on how to get rid of covid:

1. Get enough sleep.

2. Put your feet in liquid green soap water for 2 hours every 3 days (every 2 days if you have gotten covid already). This is in order to detox your body given all the toxins everyone is subjected to during a normal day. If you get rid of the toxins, your immune system can focus on viruses instead.

3. Use a scarf around your neck 24/7 for at least a month if your throat gets sore, or you get dry caught.

4. Take 2 spoons of Mllers Tran ever day coupled with a lot of sunlight, or large intake of vitamin the supplements or foods. (This is why my people never die from weak viruses).

[URL]https://oslo-universitetssykehus.no/kliniske-studier/forebygging-av-covid-19-med-tran[/URL]

(Use chrome translator or google translate.

5. Laugh at clueless wannabe experts in the media and on the internet.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2627990]Race War! You're trash if you were real.[/QUOTE]You are trash. Take your meds.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2628009]I'm not perfect but clearly at least I'm not last.

When you're running from a bear, you don't have to be the fastest, just faster than the slow fat guy. Thanks for being my slow fat guy.[/QUOTE]Thank you for confirming that you're a pathetic fantasist.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2627698]312 positive /100 000 in whole Germany and even more in ex DDR. Dramatic situation tell Angela before leaving. Munich Christmas market is cancelled. Working from home when possible should be decided. In Germany, they tell about fourth wave, when fifth in EU. Maybe because Germany managed better on our first wave, but really not now when they have already nearly 100 000 deaths. Around 750 000 in US, maybe why pushing to vaccinate for January when working in more than 100 employees companies.[/QUOTE]Austria will go under lockdown on Monday and compulsory to vaccinate soon.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2628024]I wouldn't know.[/QUOTE]Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2628188]Here is my ABC on how to get rid of covid:

1. Get enough sleep.

2. Put your feet in liquid green soap water for 2 hours every 3 days (every 2 days if you have gotten covid already). This is in order to detox your body given all the toxins everyone is subjected to during a normal day. If you get rid of the toxins, your immune system can focus on viruses instead.

3. Use a scarf around your neck 24/7 for at least a month if your throat gets sore, or you get dry caught.

4. Take 2 spoons of Mllers Tran ever day coupled with a lot of sunlight, or large intake of vitamin the supplements or foods. (This is why my people never die from weak viruses).

[URL]https://oslo-universitetssykehus.no/kliniske-studier/forebygging-av-covid-19-med-tran[/URL]

(Use chrome translator or google translate.

5. Laugh at clueless wannabe experts in the media and on the internet.[/QUOTE]I prefer sport to make strong heart and lungs. When doctors were not able to cure me on June when I was never sick like this and for so long, even when have had peritonitis poisoning my blood, but my Summer sport cured me, feeling so strong after some climbing's.

Secret weapon which seems to only be available in the USA and cannot be found anywhere in Europe:

Sudafed!

Pseudephedrine 60 MG every 6 hours while awake provides extreme decongenstion and eases breathing.

Does anyone know where to get Sudafed in Europe? I checked with various pharmacies several times in the past and am told Sudafed is not legal in Europe for some unknown reason.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2628188]Here is my ABC on how to get rid of covid:

1. Get enough sleep.

2. Put your feet in liquid green soap water for 2 hours every 3 days (every 2 days if you have gotten covid already). This is in order to detox your body given all the toxins everyone is subjected to during a normal day. If you get rid of the toxins, your immune system can focus on viruses instead.

3. Use a scarf around your neck 24/7 for at least a month if your throat gets sore, or you get dry caught.

4. Take 2 spoons of Mllers Tran ever day coupled with a lot of sunlight, or large intake of vitamin the supplements or foods. (This is why my people never die from weak viruses).

[URL]https://oslo-universitetssykehus.no/kliniske-studier/forebygging-av-covid-19-med-tran[/URL]

(Use chrome translator or google translate.

5. Laugh at clueless wannabe experts in the media and on the internet.[/QUOTE]

I'll add my 2 cents of medical advice.

Essential Oils cure cancer.

For poon, no real Sudafed (with pseudoephrine) over the counter in Europe. You need a prescription. In the USA, you need to register your ID to get the real stuff. Blame the people who used it to make methamphetamines.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2627926]Hahahah the unraveling of this tight ass continues. I thought robots weren't supposed to be emotional?[/QUOTE]Foolish twit. I guess the alliance with Neuro did not work out, he is now trying a new one with his Eastern neighbor. The funny thing is, when he was using his Takedown avatar (among his many), he had different views. Of course he had a running feud with The Cane and Mr. Ho back then from what I see. Not surprising from this CCP excrement.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area&p=2300707&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2300707.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2628288]Thank you for confirming that you're a pathetic fantasist.[/QUOTE]You're doing that thing again when you run out of words and keep repeating yourself.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2628367]Foolish twit. I guess the alliance with Neuro did not work out, he is now trying a new one with his Eastern neighbor. The funny thing is, when he was using his Takedown avatar (among his many), he had different views. Of course he had a running feud with The Cane and Mr. Ho back then from what I see. Not surprising from this CCP excrement.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area&p=2300707&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2300707.[/QUOTE]Murse and Takedown are only 1 different than MacAdo. Only 1 bad Sirioja who don't need other profile. When 10 rooms with Romanian supermodel who is one of the busiest at Sharks since her arrival on 9 July, but she seems disappointed when bad guy don't go with her, when only regular from her first day. I had 2 rooms on day with her on July, crash under big rain was when driving to Sharks, when she was so fresh, unfortunately less now even still lovely beauty, but more difficult to touch the magic even her nipples tell. As I told her: You can t lie in bed.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2628367]Foolish twit. I guess the alliance with Neuro did not work out, he is now trying a new one with his Eastern neighbor. The funny thing is, when he was using his Takedown avatar (among his many), he had different views. Of course he had a running feud with The Cane and Mr. Ho back then from what I see. Not surprising from this CCP excrement.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area&p=2300707&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2300707.[/QUOTE]News, the world does not revolve around the "all-knowing" Pessimist. Other people can mutually disagree with you. The company you are currently keeping however, well that should give you some pause.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2628405]You're doing that thing again when you run out of words and keep repeating yourself.[/QUOTE]I like the truth and stick to it, unlike you who make up one childish insult after the other. You're a pathetic weirdo, a fantasist, and you know that I'm right.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2627532]When it will be 2 G+ next week (for disco, clubs, etc), you need to be Vaccinated (or Cure) but ALSO need an antigen test (max 6 hours old) or PCR test (max 24/48 hours old?[/QUOTE]It will be 2 G+ when Hospital incident rate 6. In NRW it is 4,03, but several other areas it already is 6.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2628517]It will be 2 G+ when Hospital incident rate 6. In NRW it is 4,03, but several other areas it already is 6.[/QUOTE]Who go to Bavaria or Saxe for brothels and I don't plan to be fucked by silicon tattooed at Artemis. I prefer my fresh natural ones at Sharks or Samya when 6 close too early now for a vampire like me who wake up for sex around 5/6 pm. Earlier I prefer to eat and relax, no hurry, no rush, when usually better one open the girl before me, then easier with the girl. Even on late night, some who are busy, are tight like virgin, some telling: not much sex, not many guys fuck, when never had room without fucking except few when I preferred to give up after few minutes, not to waste my time.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2628517]It will be 2 G+ when Hospital incident rate 6. In NRW it is 4,03, but several other areas it already is 6.[/QUOTE]Which day next week?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2628188]Here is my ABC on how to get rid of covid:

1. Get enough sleep.

2. Put your feet in liquid green soap water for 2 hours every 3 days (every 2 days if you have gotten covid already). This is in order to detox your body given all the toxins everyone is subjected to during a normal day. If you get rid of the toxins, your immune system can focus on viruses instead.

3. Use a scarf around your neck 24/7 for at least a month if your throat gets sore, or you get dry caught.

4. Take 2 spoons of Mllers Tran ever day coupled with a lot of sunlight, or large intake of vitamin the supplements or foods. (This is why my people never die from weak viruses).

[URL]https://oslo-universitetssykehus.no/kliniske-studier/forebygging-av-covid-19-med-tran[/URL]

(Use chrome translator or google translate.

5. Laugh at clueless wannabe experts in the media and on the internet.[/QUOTE]Pfizer Says Its COVID-19 Pill Cuts Hospitalization and Death by 89%.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2628438]News, the world does not revolve around the "all-knowing" Pessimist. Other people can mutually disagree with you. The company you are currently keeping however, well that should give you some pause.[/QUOTE]Typical CCP dimwit. It had nothing to do w / disagreeing. He, like you do routinely, did not even read the comment history & claimed the site info was not provided (when it has been mentioned a million times and with a very active dedicated thread; I had said RTFF); that deserved a put down.

As soon as I walk in, you post your puerile insult hoping to get some attention. You are like the excrement on the sidewalk in ChinaTown. Everyone will walk around it but the shit wants to be stepped on and make life unpleasant for those who get near it. That is what you are. Nothing you will ever say is of the slightest interest to me but like a shit mosquito you are always around here.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2628448]I like the truth and stick to it, unlike you who make up one childish insult after the other. You're a pathetic weirdo, a fantasist, and you know that I'm right.[/QUOTE]How to converse 101:

Person 1: Makes a point.

Person 2: Interject feedback or makes pertinent counterpoint.

Now you try.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2628654]How to converse 101:

Person 1: Makes a point.

Person 2: Interject feedback or makes pertinent counterpoint.

Now you try.[/QUOTE]Here you go again, every time you post a comment on here you only confirm that you're a pathetic weirdo and fantasist.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2628728]Here you go again, every time you post a comment on here you only confirm that you're a pathetic weirdo and fantasist.[/QUOTE]I see you still haven't been making use of the thesaurus I bought for you.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2628625]Typical CCP dimwit. It had nothing to do w / disagreeing. He, like you do routinely, did not even read the comment history & claimed the site info was not provided (when it has been mentioned a million times and with a very active dedicated thread; I had said RTFF); that deserved a put down.

As soon as I walk in, you post your puerile insult hoping to get some attention. You are like the excrement on the sidewalk in ChinaTown. Everyone will walk around it but the shit wants to be stepped on and make life unpleasant for those who get near it. That is what you are. Nothing you will ever say is of the slightest interest to me but like a shit mosquito you are always around here.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Neurosynth;2623326]The FKK advantage isn't that you have 100 naked girls wandering to be ogled. Albeit as pleasant as that is.

It's that those 100 girls are (excuse the expression) for sale! I'm there to buy, and the product is right there ready for my inspection. And it just begins with checking out her body and face. We get to inspect *behavior* as well.

Having to choose based on GIFs, ads, and emails is so inferior I'm surprised this isn't mentioned more often.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pessimist;2623345]"Having to choose based on GIFs, ads, and emails is so inferior I'm surprised this isn't mentioned more often" - your imagination at work here?

"We get to inspect *behavior* as well. " - yes, I am sure you can read so much from "baby, what you make".[/QUOTE]How you lose track so easily. The reference was to Neurosynth not Ho. The only thing the man did was make a comment that live FKK scene was better than internet ads. You in all your insecurity took it as an insult to your beloved Sugar baby scene without anyone even trashing it. Insecure man. Another typical dumb smart guy.

A sugar baby and others filing lawsuit against a sugar daddy for among other actions, "anal abuse causing bleeding."

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/11/20/billionaire-michael-goguen-allegedly-kept-spreadsheet-of-5000-sex-partners/[/URL]

Switzerland is selling the EU phone covid vaccine pass for 30 CHF to tourists who have to upload their proof of vaccine and passport to the website:

[URL]https://www.covidcertificate-form.admin.ch/foreign?fbclid=IwAR1iNBSeuX9BiVvS1A9rzkmVNXUwlT274G6SQnqwrFVQ9_hwpKvRHQBPWoY[/URL]

These are valid in all EU states once processed by Switzerland in 5 business days.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2628587]Which day next week?[/QUOTE]

It seems as of November 24th, so Wednesday, in NRW. But look at the hospital incident rate (per region).

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2628865]Wow. I don't know if GT can ever recover from this. Even if it reopens somehow I think the glory days of GT are behind it.[/QUOTE]The cynic in me goes straight to the new owners seeing the bad situation of the FKK scene and decided to light the shit on fire for insurance fraud.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2628517]It will be 2 G+ when Hospital incident rate 6. In NRW it is 4,03, but several other areas it already is 6.[/QUOTE]Has the hospital rate reached 6 in Hessen yet?

I've planned to be in Sharks on Friday, I'm double vaccinated but having to be tested will cause me issues.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2627532]When it will be 2 G+ next week (for disco, clubs, etc), you need to be Vaccinated (or Cure) but ALSO need an antigen test (max 6 hours old) or PCR test (max 24/48 hours old?[/QUOTE]Would Sharks reception accept an antigen test within six hours if it was taken in another Country, IE at an airport in the UK?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2628590]Pfizer Says Its COVID-19 Pill Cuts Hospitalization and Death by 89%.[/QUOTE]But not efficient after 6 months. They created a very good business with big money.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2628860]Seemingly there was a massive fire: [URL]https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/65857/5078305[/URL].

Most likely an accident. Rebuilding may take at least half a year. If not longer.[/QUOTE]So basically they burned it down to collect the insurance.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2628860]Seemingly there was a massive fire: [URL]https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/65857/5078305[/URL].

Most likely an accident. Rebuilding may take at least half a year. If not longer.[/QUOTE]Maybe it was those südländische Arabs who were mad for not being able to get in?

[QUOTE=Canary;2628922]Would Sharks reception accept an antigen test within six hours if it was taken in another Country, IE at an airport in the UK?[/QUOTE]If it is official test with certificate on your name you will be ok.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2628749]How you lose track so easily. The reference was to Neurosynth not Ho. The only thing the man did was make a comment that live FKK scene was better than internet ads. You in all your insecurity took it as an insult to your beloved Sugar baby scene without anyone even trashing it. Insecure man. Another typical dumb smart guy.[/QUOTE]Fucking liar. You reply back to my reply to Mr. Ho, and now claim it was in reference to Neuro. But then, lying comes so easily to CCP slime.

I already gave a lengthy reply to Neuro. For some reason, you meddled there too; but as usual, you had no real rebuttal to any of the actual points but just the typical robot, some stupid reference to ass, infidelity blah blah digs. You need to expand your insult vocab, dude! Do a Google search. Or ask your boss McA, he seems to be good at doing research.

Any idiot with a functioning dick (if not a functioning brain) can see that a naked chick asking to be fucked is an easier option than the promise of sex based an ad on sugarbabe or any other internet exchange. We didn't need Neuro to tell us that. There is not a single subscriber to SA who doesn't realize that either. My original post was related to the comparison of economics as prices on the sugarbabe scene are actually seeing some deflation from my experience while DE just saw a sudden 50% to 100% spike. If any fucking idiot can show that I claimed sugarbabe scene provided easier sex options in terms of turnaround time relative to FKKs in my original post, I want to see it. I even gave the analogy to dining options; the fact that I eat a big Mac does not mean I can't dine at a steak joint or order in Chinese.

And speaking of insecurity, that made a whole bunch of FKK mongers unhappy and upset. "How dare he?" Dudes from Neuro, Tedesco to Mr Ho (although that last one is blessed with half the IQ of the others) came out of the woodwork, making the ridiculous accusation that I compared the ease of choosing and availability of quick choice between the two platforms. You in all this had no real input anyway, but thought it was a quick way to make some inane insults and perhaps build some useful alliances as your protection posse.

I am not invested in SA. I don't own a piece of it. My only goal is to optimize the quality and availability of sex at the best cost. It is a numbers issue, like most things in life. That is lost on a bunch of braindead drones.

For your reference, my inbox is set to refuse all incoming messages. What I have to say, I write it here. The company I keep is plain and apparent.

I will bet you will have no rebuttal to any of these as always, but will repeat the robot / tightass / cheater / blahman stuff. A year of back and forth, and just 4 or 5 unoriginal insults. Quite weak.

[QUOTE=Canary;2628910]Has the hospital rate reached 6 in Hessen yet?

I've planned to be in Sharks on Friday, I'm double vaccinated but having to be tested will cause me issues.[/QUOTE]I think for FKK, its 2 G plus from 25 November, if Hospital rate are above 3 , now its 4. 6 , so you need vaccine and test. Thats what I think.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2628590]Pfizer Says Its COVID-19 Pill Cuts Hospitalization and Death by 89%.[/QUOTE]But will Joe Rogan approve it?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2628748]I see you still haven't been making use of the thesaurus I bought for you.[/QUOTE]As I've written multiple times before, you're a pathetic weirdo and fantasist. You have not bought me anything.

You really need to start taking your meds and try to create a real life and try to get your first real friend ever.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629008]Fucking liar. You reply back to my reply to Mr. Ho, and now claim it was in reference to Neuro. But then, lying comes so easily to CCP slime.

I already gave a lengthy reply to Neuro. For some reason, you meddled there too; but as usual, you had no real rebuttal to any of the actual points but just the typical robot, some stupid reference to ass, infidelity blah blah digs. You need to expand your insult vocab, dude! Do a Google search. Or ask your boss McA, he seems to be good at doing research.

Any idiot with a functioning dick (if not a functioning brain) can see that a naked chick asking to be fucked is an easier option than the promise of sex based an ad on sugarbabe or any other internet exchange. We didn't need Neuro to tell us that. There is not a single subscriber to SA who doesn't realize that either. My original post was related to the comparison of economics as prices on the sugarbabe scene are actually seeing some deflation from my experience while DE just saw a sudden 50% to 100% spike. If any fucking idiot can show that I claimed sugarbabe scene provided easier sex options in terms of turnaround time relative to FKKs in my original post, I want to see it. I even gave the analogy to dining options; the fact that I eat a big Mac does not mean I can't dine at a steak joint or order in Chinese.

And speaking of insecurity, that made a whole bunch of FKK mongers unhappy and upset. "How dare he?" Dudes from Neuro, Tedesco to Mr Ho (although that last one is blessed with half the IQ of the others) came out of the woodwork, making the ridiculous accusation that I compared the ease of choosing and availability of quick choice between the two platforms. You in all this had no real input anyway, but thought it was a quick way to make some inane insults and perhaps build some useful alliances as your protection posse. [/QUOTE]It must be tough being a prisoner of your runaway thoughts.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629082]It must be tough being a prisoner of your runaway thoughts.[/QUOTE]Anyone constantly, day after day venting long winded angry rants at strangers over the internet for free is a loser, I regardless of what they may claim about themselves.

Same can be said of your heckler Shoo Swede. He doesn't like what you are saying but lacks the brain power to engage with your content so he does all he can do, heckle. Your offer of a thesaurus was generous, but what eight year old ever uses one? Let him stay at his level, following you around repeating the same two insults over and over, and on the free for all threads, the only places where he has anything to contribute. We know he doesn't travel or fuck women.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2629058]As I've written multiple times before, you're a pathetic weirdo and fantasist. You have not bought me anything.

You really need to start taking your meds and try to create a real life and try to get your first real friend ever.[/QUOTE]Riveting thoughts from Jack Handy.

Violent protests in Europe over COVID restrictions:

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59363256.amp[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629082]It must be tough being a prisoner of your runaway thoughts.[/QUOTE]So predictable. I said you will have nothing to say about any points made except an unrelated lame insult, and sure enough.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2628932]But not efficient after 6 months. They created a very good business with big money.[/QUOTE]Less than 50% efficiency after only 6 months and now they want to make us believe third dose or second after Johnson should be more efficient, for 3 days? When we have 76% who are vaccinated in France, but with around 20 000 new cases daily, when more than 60 000 in Germany, for sure not preventing from spreading. When hospitals rate in Germany is higher than 6, they will ask also for test which is more reliable than only vaccine when many vaccinated are positive. 2 G+.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2628932]But not efficient after 6 months. They created a very good business with big money.[/QUOTE]Not vaccine, pill. After you get covid you take it. Reduces getting worse by 89%.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2628803]A sugar baby and others filing lawsuit against a sugar daddy for among other actions, "anal abuse causing bleeding."

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/11/20/billionaire-michael-goguen-allegedly-kept-spreadsheet-of-5000-sex-partners/[/URL][/QUOTE]He's a billionaire. Girls would gravitate towards him like ants to honey. The babes do need money, sometimes more money.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2627532]When it will be 2 G+ next week (for disco, clubs, etc), you need to be Vaccinated (or Cure) but ALSO need an antigen test (max 6 hours old) or PCR test (max 24/48 hours old?[/QUOTE]Thanks for this info.

As luck would have it I'm flying in the day after the new regulations begin & I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle for one day?

I'm still tempted to go as flights are booked & it will probably be my last visit until the Spring.

I can't take the PCR test as recently had Covid and it might show up as a fake positive so an antigen test is my only real choice.

My worse case scenario is that I get to Sharks and won't be admitted although I'm perfectly healthy or I take the antigen test at the airport and fail it because it picks up virus debris even though I'm non infectious.

I've tree days to make a decision!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2629032]But will Joe Rogan approve it?[/QUOTE]We used to be a country of pragmatic go-getters and that got us to the top of the world. Now it is the dimwits like Rogan and his side kick Rodgers that have become our face to the outside world. No wonder the CCP thugs feel they are on their way up.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2629149]Anyone constantly, day after day venting long winded angry rants at strangers over the internet for free is a loser, I regardless of what they may claim about themselves.

Same can be said of your heckler Shoo Swede. He doesn't like what you are saying but lacks the brain power to engage with your content so he does all he can do, heckle. Your offer of a thesaurus was generous, but what eight year old ever uses one? Let him stay at his level, following you around repeating the same two insults over and over, and on the free for all threads, the only places where he has anything to contribute. We know he doesn't travel or fuck women.[/QUOTE]Haaha Pauline the alter eg of CCP thug Murse ("Anyone constantly, day after day venting long winded angry rants at strangers."

Apparently, you overlooked the fact that Murse has only 3,000 posts in the last month. But then again, you are Murse, you are Caneupp. You are Takedown, Samson, Phallus, whatever dimfuck name you come up with.

Your alter ego attacked my reply to Ho, with zero content in the reply. Are you too dense? Or do you lick Murse's ass, as he does to McA? That puts you 2 levels down the chain, Pauline.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2628956]So basically they burned it down to collect the insurance.[/QUOTE]Arson is a serious crime. Instead of collecting insurance, you will be spending the rest of your life in prison. No owner who was smart enough to accumulate enough money to buy / build a club would be stupid enough to take such a dumb risk. This is not 3rd world. If employees or firefighters had died and the arsonists are caught during investigation, they would be convicted for 1st degree murder.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629435]Haaha Pauline the alter eg of CCP thug Murse ("Anyone constantly, day after day venting long winded angry rants at strangers."

Apparently, you overlooked the fact that Murse has only 3,000 posts in the last month. But then again, you are Murse, you are Caneupp. You are Takedown, Samson, Phallus, whatever dimfuck name you come up with.

Your alter ego attacked my reply to Ho, with zero content in the reply. Are you too dense? Or do you lick Murse's ass, as he does to McA? That puts you 2 levels down the chain, Pauline.[/QUOTE]Here's a more likely reality, other people actually see that you're a soft ego hypocrite with a low threshold for criticism.

For someone so offended by others engaging in flame wars with many others, you sure are growing quite a list in a short, 2 week span. Neuro, Ho, Tedesco, yours truly, and now Paulie. Bravo Larry, bravo.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629186]So predictable. I said you will have nothing to say about any points made except an unrelated lame insult, and sure enough.[/QUOTE]If you can't understand that the mention of your "runaway thoughts" and "prisoner of your mind" exactly addresses your post, you should reexamine your own criticisms of other people's IQ.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629446]Arson is a serious crime. Instead of collecting insurance, you will be spending the rest of your life in prison. No owner who was smart enough to accumulate enough money to buy / build a club would be stupid enough to take such a dumb risk. This is not 3rd world. If employees or firefighters had died and the arsonists are caught during investigation, they would be convicted for 1st degree murder.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the "biker gangs" that own half the clubs in Germany would never think about committing crimes.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629446]Arson is a serious crime. Instead of collecting insurance, you will be spending the rest of your life in prison. No owner who was smart enough to accumulate enough money to buy / build a club would be stupid enough to take such a dumb risk. This is not 3rd world. If employees or firefighters had died and the arsonists are caught during investigation, they would be convicted for 1st degree murder.[/QUOTE]I don't think so much about fucking insurance, but when you know a bit about Oceans at night crowd, if you try to blackmail some, I m pretty sure they can play with matches even without smoking. Mafia versus mafia.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629446]Arson is a serious crime. Instead of collecting insurance, you will be spending the rest of your life in prison. No owner who was smart enough to accumulate enough money to buy / build a club would be stupid enough to take such a dumb risk. This is not 3rd world. If employees or firefighters had died and the arsonists are caught during investigation, they would be convicted for 1st degree murder.[/QUOTE]Germany doesn't have first degree murder. They don't put people in prison for life sentences either as all EU countries have abolished both the death penalty and abolished life in prison.

There was cases of Syrian refugees raping individuals (both adults and kinder) and they have only gotten a few months in jail.

In fact there is no prison industrial complex in Germany so I would wager if a financial crime were to occur, Germany would be the ideal country to perpetrate same.

There was documentaries on prisons in Germany which have private apartments, people can drive their cars to work release everyday, and get free college degrees while in jail.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629152]Riveting thoughts from Jack Handy.[/QUOTE]Another weird nonsense post from you which clearly shows how pathetic you are. Get a life.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629082]It must be tough being a prisoner of your runaway thoughts.[/QUOTE]Well, you're a prisoner of this website because your real life is so depressing. Get a life.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2629149]Anyone constantly, day after day venting long winded angry rants at strangers over the internet for free is a loser, I regardless of what they may claim about themselves.

Same can be said of your heckler Shoo Swede. He doesn't like what you are saying but lacks the brain power to engage with your content so he does all he can do, heckle. Your offer of a thesaurus was generous, but what eight year old ever uses one? Let him stay at his level, following you around repeating the same two insults over and over, and on the free for all threads, the only places where he has anything to contribute. We know he doesn't travel or fuck women.[/QUOTE]Oh Basement-Paulie has spoken again. The bitter and pathetic loser that is too afraid to leave his moms basement because of covid. His only hobby is to stalk me, there's no shortage of weirdos from the US on this site.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629480]If you can't understand that the mention of your "runaway thoughts" and "prisoner of your mind" exactly addresses your post, you should reexamine your own criticisms of other people's IQ.[/QUOTE]Whatever. When you have some substantive rebuttal, let me know.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2629149]Same can be said of your heckler Shoo Swede. He doesn't like what you are saying but lacks the brain power to engage with your content so he does all he can do, heckle. Your offer of a thesaurus was generous, but what eight year old ever uses one? Let him stay at his level, following you around repeating the same two insults over and over, and on the free for all threads, the only places where he has anything to contribute. We know he doesn't travel or fuck women.[/QUOTE]That's what I hope for him, to be an actual, literal child. The alternative is just too sad.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629478]Here's a more likely reality, other people actually see that you're a soft ego hypocrite with a low threshold for criticism.

For someone so offended by others engaging in flame wars with many others, you sure are growing quite a list in a short, 2 week span. Neuro, Ho, Tedesco, yours truly, and now Paulie. Bravo Larry, bravo.[/QUOTE]Pauline is part of your little gang if not you directly. Your history suggests such duplicity is not beyond you. This person has half of his posts defending you for some weird reason. He had attacked me in the past coming to your defense too. Cute couple, you make.

I gave my response to Neuro / Tedesco / Ho; if they reply back with any real points, I may respond. I doubt any of them care to make it so personal for so long as you have. I don't know Tedesco at all; I did research on Neuro when he needlessly jabbed me and discovered his obsession with RTC clubs, which put his absurd claims about having meaningful interactions w / FKK WGs into perspective. I never had much use for Ho's posts, I ignore them as I ignore Siri's and a thousand others but he made an absurd claim that I copy / pasted pics from Google; I would have let his comment go if not for that slander.

But you got one thing right. This site is becoming a poisonous drag on my time and ceased being any sort of fun read. I realize that is your goal, to drive people out with your incessant badgering.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629401]We used to be a country of pragmatic go-getters and that got us to the top of the world. Now it is the dimwits like Rogan and his side kick Rodgers that have become our face to the outside world. No wonder the CCP thugs feel they are on their way up.[/QUOTE]Pride and ego strikes again. Geographical isolation, opportunity, and cheap to free labor built this country up. Then every other western nation being decimated after 2 World Wars catapulted us to the top. It had nothing to do with the characteristics of the people. We have always been a nation of opportunists where the general population rode on the coat tails of a few great men. Your existence is a testament to that.

[QUOTE=Canary;2629399]Thanks for this info.

As luck would have it I'm flying in the day after the new regulations begin & I'm wondering if it's worth the hassle for one day?

I'm still tempted to go as flights are booked & it will probably be my last visit until the Spring.

I can't take the PCR test as recently had Covid and it might show up as a fake positive so an antigen test is my only real choice.

My worse case scenario is that I get to Sharks and won't be admitted although I'm perfectly healthy or I take the antigen test at the airport and fail it because it picks up virus debris even though I'm non infectious.

I've tree days to make a decision![/QUOTE]If under 2 G+, Sharks should propose fast test again, as they did all along Summer. When really not crowded, I'm pretty sure they will try to help to get business.

Why are we even discussing this here? Full disagreement. All wrong. Germany has first degree murder (heimtückischer Mord). Life sentence is 20 yrs. And the prison situation is far from what you describe below.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2629499]Germany doesn't have first degree murder. They don't put people in prison for life sentences either as all EU countries have abolished both the death penalty and abolished life in prison.

There was cases of Syrian refugees raping individuals (both adults and kinder) and they have only gotten a few months in jail.

In fact there is no prison industrial complex in Germany so I would wager if a financial crime were to occur, Germany would be the ideal country to perpetrate same.

There was documentaries on prisons in Germany which have private apartments, people can drive their cars to work release everyday, and get free college degrees while in jail.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629401]We used to be a country of pragmatic go-getters and that got us to the top of the world. Now it is the dimwits like Rogan and his side kick Rodgers that have become our face to the outside world. No wonder the CCP thugs feel they are on their way up.[/QUOTE]On the contrary, Rogan is a beacon of hope for a lost foolish nation brainwashed by constant propaganda.

What Rogan is a sign of is also that the information society really will win in the end, and truth will prevail.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629478]Here's a more likely reality, other people actually see that you're a soft ego hypocrite with a low threshold for criticism.

For someone so offended by others engaging in flame wars with many others, you sure are growing quite a list in a short, 2 week span. Neuro, Ho, Tedesco, yours truly, and now Paulie. Bravo Larry, bravo.[/QUOTE]LMFAO, your whole life consists of picking fights with strangers on ISG.

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[QUOTE=Turgid;2628590]Pfizer Says Its COVID-19 Pill Cuts Hospitalization and Death by 89%.[/QUOTE]I'm sure they do. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2628309]I prefer sport to make strong heart and lungs. When doctors were not able to cure me on June when I was never sick like this and for so long, even when have had peritonitis poisoning my blood, but my Summer sport cured me, feeling so strong after some climbing's.[/QUOTE]Well, take it from Alexander Kristoffs coach then. Cause he has done a couple of studies on the effect of essential oils in addition to vitamin supplements. And the positive effect was rather large. But he noticed close to zero effect as soon as the essential oils were removed. Meaning all the vitamin supplements had 0 effect unless coupled with the oils found in Tran (which was what they used).

[QUOTE=Maxime;2628850]It seems as of November 24th, so Wednesday, in NRW. But look at the hospital incident rate (per region).[/QUOTE]It is official: as of tomorrow 2 G+ in NRW for (sex) clubs (regardless of the incident rate! [URL]https://www.land.nrw/pressemitteilung/neue-coronaschutzverordnung-ab-24-november-2021[/URL].

[QUOTE=Maxime;2629881]It is official: as of tomorrow 2 G+ in NRW for (sex) clubs (regardless of the incident rate! [URL]https://www.land.nrw/pressemitteilung/neue-coronaschutzverordnung-ab-24-november-2021[/URL].[/QUOTE]Samya girls were told to get vaccinated to continue working. I wonder what impact will this have on LU.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2629699]LMFAO, your whole life consists of picking fights with strangers on ISG.[/QUOTE]Thanks for being a great punching bag!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2629699]LMFAO, your whole life consists of picking fights with strangers on ISG.[/QUOTE]Whoops, meant to say douchebag, damn spellcheck.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2629582]But you got one thing right. This site is becoming a poisonous drag on my time and ceased being any sort of fun read. I realize that is your goal, to drive people out with your incessant badgering.[/QUOTE]I have a few favorites. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Maxime;2629881]It is official: as of tomorrow 2 G+ in NRW for (sex) clubs (regardless of the incident rate! [URL]https://www.land.nrw/pressemitteilung/neue-coronaschutzverordnung-ab-24-november-2021[/URL].[/QUOTE]It said 24 hour quickest and 48 hour PCR test which differs from the 6 hour schnelltest previously.

Also kinder are exempt so a club filled with 17 year old girls is not required to be vaccinated?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2629669]On the contrary, Rogan is a beacon of hope for a lost foolish nation brainwashed by constant propaganda.

What Rogan is a sign of is also that the information society really will win in the end, and truth will prevail.[/QUOTE]A bald kibitzer that has a basic high school education is the beacon for a nation that has more than half of global tech revenues and 70% of global tech market cap? OK then.

You can take him if you want to. And take all the other idiots that have any amount of ratings on these podcasts and talk shows and what not. I bet our GDP will jump 50 bps as soon as we are rid of these goons.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2629595]Pride and ego strikes again. Geographical isolation, opportunity, and cheap to free labor built this country up. Then every other western nation being decimated after 2 World Wars catapulted us to the top. It had nothing to do with the characteristics of the people. We have always been a nation of opportunists where the general population rode on the coat tails of a few great men. Your existence is a testament to that.[/QUOTE]No one forced to be a stowaway to come here in a cheap fishing boat to this nation of opportunists. Or perhaps you were sent by your masters to spread Covid.

Pride and ego. While deriding the US you do seem pretty proud of your CCP thugs. As soon as I posted the FT link on Covid leak from the lab, your hormone levels shot up.

"where the general population rode on the coat tails of a few great men." - how foolish! From a guy who never had a job in his life. Jensun may be the face of NVDA but it has 10,000 super bright engineers. Jobs presents with "one more thing" but he didn't build the iPhone from every chip and code line up. Sahin may get a lot of credit for Biontech's vaccine but even they had hundreds of bright researchers.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2629499]Germany doesn't have first degree murder. They don't put people in prison for life sentences either as all EU countries have abolished both the death penalty and abolished life in prison.

There was cases of Syrian refugees raping individuals (both adults and kinder) and they have only gotten a few months in jail.

In fact there is no prison industrial complex in Germany so I would wager if a financial crime were to occur, Germany would be the ideal country to perpetrate same.

There was documentaries on prisons in Germany which have private apartments, people can drive their cars to work release everyday, and get free college degrees while in jail.[/QUOTE]OK, you are right. I have no clue about German law. I spoke in the context of the US, but implied Germany with my "this is not third world". That said, I believe you have exaggerations in your depiction. If Germany were to be such a utopia for committing crime, such elements would congregate to an accelerating degree in there and society and their systems would have been destabilized a long time ago.

Per wiki: the following is for Germany; arson is included in the list of crimes that may be eligible for life imprisonment.

Also, if that arson had led to some deaths, then it may be classified as murder which then carries a mandatory life sentence.

Crimes allowing for life imprisonment.

Mandatory sentence.

Murder genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes against a person.

Possible sentence.

Planning a war of aggression, high treason, treason, illegal disclosure of secrets, engaging in relations that endanger peace, child abuse causing death, sexual assault causing death, robbery causing death, arson causing death, abduction for the purpose of blackmailing causing death, taking hostages causing death, effecting a nuclear explosion causing death, effecting an explosion causing death, misuse of ionizing radiation causing death, attacking a driver for the purpose of committing a robbery causing death, and attacking air or sea traffic causing death.