London

Agreed. London is the most underrated city for this hobby in the world, IMHO. You need to have deeper pockets, but the quality is outstanding and all of the pressure you feel in FKK's in Germany, Amsterdam (never again BTW. F that place), Tijuana (which I really like still). Only place I long for in a similar way is Havana, but that's a totally different experience than London.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2477689]Ps other guys in London I envy u. I read every day 10 great reports on Diva girls, many of whom Ive seen. OMG I am so jealous. Please go fuck them. (I have lucked into a local SB here in the US after a ton of hard work. So I am no longer starving. But I still miss my London Ro-girls. )[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2478474]Agreed. London is the most underrated city for this hobby in the world, IMHO. You need to have deeper pockets, but the quality is outstanding and all of the pressure you feel in FKK's in Germany, Amsterdam (never again BTW. F that place), Tijuana (which I really like still). Only place I long for in a similar way is Havana, but that's a totally different experience than London.[/QUOTE]What pressure do you feel in an FKK club? The only pressure I feel is my boy up against the towel around my waist.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2479033]What pressure do you feel in an FKK club? The only pressure I feel is my boy up against the towel around my waist.[/QUOTE]FKKs are amazing, but I find them to be high-pressure sales environments. Every time you walk past a girl she's trying to make eye contact, locking her lips, grabbing your arm. That's cool for like the first 15 minutes. But sometimes (like after a session) it gets old fast. I'm aware of the perspective "that's what it feels like to be a hot girl in a bar", but it's a more aggressive form of that where you're literally feeling like you're swatting arms off of you and constantly saying "not now, maybe later".

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2479293]FKKs are amazing, but I find them to be high-pressure sales environments. Every time you walk past a girl she's trying to make eye contact, locking her lips, grabbing your arm. That's cool for like the first 15 minutes. But sometimes (like after a session) it gets old fast. I'm aware of the perspective "that's what it feels like to be a hot girl in a bar", but it's a more aggressive form of that where you're literally feeling like you're swatting arms off of you and constantly saying "not now, maybe later".[/QUOTE]Yeah I find the being accosted gets old also. The alternative is Globe in Switzerland which is also an FKK and currently OPEN. At Globe I feel like I have to chase the ladies. It's definitely different from German FKK. Or try Aphrodisia in Zurich also. It's a Contakt Bar. The girls are not allowed to approach. That plus a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio you can really take your time and make your choice. Of course at $500/ HR it's not for everyone.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2479331]Yeah I find the being accosted gets old also. The alternative is Globe in Switzerland which is also an FKK and currently OPEN. At Globe I feel like I have to chase the ladies. It's definitely different from German FKK. Or try Aphrodisia in Zurich also. It's a Contakt Bar. The girls are not allowed to approach. That plus a 5 to 1 girl to guy ratio you can really take your time and make your choice. Of course at $500/ HR it's not for everyone.[/QUOTE]I can afford $500 an hour, but it's not like I don't have a sense of value. I don't mind paying more if I'm getting more. My best sessions were in London where I was paying about 250 dollars per hour for Divas.

What's your take on Zurich clubs versus German FKK? Is it worth five times the price? What do you get for the extra money? Are the girls better, fresher, something-er? Or is it just that that's what it costs there And if that's where you are, that's what you pay?

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2479556]I can afford $500 an hour, but it's not like I don't have a sense of value. I don't mind paying more if I'm getting more. My best sessions were in London where I was paying about 250 dollars per hour for Divas.

What's your take on Zurich clubs versus German FKK? Is it worth five times the price? What do you get for the extra money? Are the girls better, fresher, something-er? Or is it just that that's what it costs there And if that's where you are, that's what you pay?[/QUOTE]I am sure there are other venues but I know Globe and Aphrodisia so I will speak to them. Personally I like German FKK a lot. Paying 50 to fuck hottie after hottie does not suck. So why Globe?

With German FKK it's a bit hit or miss. You could have a girl who's mediocre in the room. Maybe doesn't kiss or wants more for BBBJ. Or just attitude in general. I've had mostly good experiences but I know the game and am pretty good at it.

With Globe you pay more than double $130 a half HR or something. But GUARANTEED good looks and service. DFK and BBBJ are standard. If a girl doesn't perform in the room or she gains weight she is fired. That's it. No games. Guaranteed excellent experience.

With Aphrodisia you pay double Globe - $280/ half. Do you get a 2 X better experience absolutely not. But U get a once in a life time experience. Imagine a luxury bar where all the drinks are free. Including alcoholic. No cover. (What? Surely U jest! Nope!) Just walk in. There are 30 hot girls in there. They all want you. There are 3-5 other guys. Drink. Chat. Ogle. Pick one and go. Is the in room experience better than Globe. No. Is the experience of being the most desirable guy in a room of gorgeous girls one for the books? Absolutely!

I agree with Steve! Globe and Aphrodisia are exactly like he has described them! Though even FKKs in Germany are much better than anything in London so far!

The downside is I regularly drop 1000 CHF (about 750 GBP) every time I go to Globe and / or Aphrodisia so its not cheap but so worth it once a month or so!

Being stuck in the UK at the moment due to Covid, I am thinking of exploring the London strip club scene. What's it like? What are the best clubs with the prettiest girls? Are any clubs offering more than just watching? How about the famous Stringfellows? What's that like.

How do the girls in London's strip clubs compare to the girls in FKKs or Globe or Aphrodisia? Are they also mostly from Eastern Europe?

How much would you budget for a good time at a strip club?

I know Diva already and use them almost exclusively for FS, but strip clubs are a scene I'm currently unfamiliar with.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2479612]I am sure there are other venues but I know Globe and Aphrodisia so I will speak to them. Personally I like German FKK a lot. Paying 50 to fuck hottie after hottie does not suck. So why Globe?

With German FKK it's a bit hit or miss. You could have a girl who's mediocre in the room. Maybe doesn't kiss or wants more for BBBJ. Or just attitude in general. I've had mostly good experiences but I know the game and am pretty good at it.

With Globe you pay more than double $130 a half HR or something. But GUARANTEED good looks and service. DFK and BBBJ are standard. If a girl doesn't perform in the room or she gains weight she is fired. That's it. No games. Guaranteed excellent experience.

With Aphrodisia you pay double Globe - $280/ half. Do you get a 2 X better experience absolutely not. But U get a once in a life time experience. Imagine a luxury bar where all the drinks are free. Including alcoholic. No cover. (What? Surely U jest! Nope!) Just walk in. There are 30 hot girls in there. They all want you. There are 3-5 other guys. Drink. Chat. Ogle. Pick one and go. Is the in room experience better than Globe. No. Is the experience of being the most desirable guy in a room of gorgeous girls one for the books? Absolutely![/QUOTE]Hey Steve which FKK would you recommend / used before, that is your favourite?

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2479722]I agree with Steve! Globe and Aphrodisia are exactly like he has described them! Though even FKKs in Germany are much better than anything in London so far!

The downside is I regularly drop 1000 CHF (about 750 GBP) every time I go to Globe and / or Aphrodisia so its not cheap but so worth it once a month or so![/QUOTE]Dude are you not fucking Diva 150 girls? There are so many that are better than FKK girls. Go have a duo with Melty and Pantera or Noleta and Tiramisu. Bring a bottle of Rose. Totally worth every pound. (Or see one on one.).

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2479748]Hey Steve which FKK would you recommend / used before, that is your favourite?[/QUOTE]If you talking German FKK then my favorite is Sharks in Frankfurt. It's a huge lux venue with tons of girls and all the FKK offers in general — sauna, food, massage, lounge areas etc. The other good one in Frankfurt is Oase. Some guys like it better. Girls on par — so mostly a club style thing. Oase is Roman Emperor themed. Much more compact and a bit of a Warren inside compared to Sharks big open space with 50 ft ceilings.

I already said I do use DIVA regularly! You're right its good. Still prefer FKKs though. I had a 3 some with Megan and Genevieve last time I was in Globe! LOL.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2479723]Being stuck in the UK at the moment due to Covid, I am thinking of exploring the London strip club scene. What's it like? What are the best clubs with the prettiest girls? Are any clubs offering more than just watching? How about the famous Stringfellows? What's that like.

How do the girls in London's strip clubs compare to the girls in FKKs or Globe or Aphrodisia? Are they also mostly from Eastern Europe?

How much would you budget for a good time at a strip club?[/QUOTE]My info is probably 5+ years old but London strip was a huge disappointment and ripoff. And this from a guy used to the bad US scene. London was even worse. I concluded (incorrectly) that London sucks for sex. Then one night I had an epiphany that London might have escorts and the rest is history. But judging London on strip 5 years ago it was the bottom of the barrel for getting any value for your pound.

The best avdise is will avoid them. Unless you just want to experience, flash some money!

There have been new rules in places from past few years, which means "you can touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly!"

Apart from that, I don't think any strip clubs are open due to the COVID situation.

In UK, the best strip club experience has been in Manchester.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2479723]Being stuck in the UK at the moment due to Covid, I am thinking of exploring the London strip club scene. What's it like? What are the best clubs with the prettiest girls? Are any clubs offering more than just watching? How about the famous Stringfellows? What's that like.

How do the girls in London's strip clubs compare to the girls in FKKs or Globe or Aphrodisia? Are they also mostly from Eastern Europe?

How much would you budget for a good time at a strip club?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2479821]My info is probably 5+ years old but London strip was a huge disappointment and ripoff. And this from a guy used to the bad US scene. London was even worse. I concluded (incorrectly) that London sucks for sex. Then one night I had an epiphany that London might have escorts and the rest is history. But judging London on strip 5 years ago it was the bottom of the barrel for getting any value for your pound.[/QUOTE]Where have you found good escorts in London? Just online?

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2479748]Hey Steve which FKK would you recommend / used before, that is your favourite?[/QUOTE]I know this was addressed to Steve but I have a bit of wisdom so Sharks is great. Hot girls. Nicer bar area. Generally more high-end. But I don't like that it's largely out in the open. I like to get away now and again, disappear after a session for a while.

Oase is also nice but not as nice. But I like that there are areas to tuck away. Some nice lawn chairs at the back of the lawn. The room up top where only guys allowed so you can just nap.

Manahattan is smaller, but closer to the center. I wouldn't go back but that's just me.

Food at all of them is acceptable. Think cafeteria food. Cheap salty tasty grub. Sausages, fries, pasta.

It's really taste. I prefer the London escort scene personally. I like having a nice dinner solo, having a girl over, finishing, sending her off, and watching a show before bed. In FKKs I feel like I'm trying to go for my next nut and it's never as good as the first. And the Time pressure makes it less of an enjoyable experience. But that's just me.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2479795]Dude are you not fucking Diva 150 girls? There are so many that are better than FKK girls. Go have a duo with Melty and Pantera or Noleta and Tiramisu. Bring a bottle of Rose. Totally worth every pound. (Or see one on one.).[/QUOTE]Melty is gone now. Had a nice recent session with Linden though. Friendly, easy to talk to girl who aims to please. Slightly older than her pics though.

[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2480030]Melty is gone now. Had a nice recent session with Linden though. Friendly, easy to talk to girl who aims to please. Slightly older than her pics though.[/QUOTE]Melty may not be gone for good. If you go home without a firm return date they take you down. When she returns she will pop back up with reviews and all intact.

Been with Linden. Nice but in my bottom tier of Diva girls.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2479903]I know this was addressed to Steve but I have a bit of wisdom so Sharks is great. Hot girls. Nicer bar area. Generally more high-end. But I don't like that it's largely out in the open. I like to get away now and again, disappear after a session for a while.

Oase is also nice but not as nice. But I like that there are areas to tuck away. Some nice lawn chairs at the back of the lawn. The room up top where only guys allowed so you can just nap.

Manahattan is smaller, but closer to the center. I wouldn't go back but that's just me.

Food at all of them is acceptable. Think cafeteria food. Cheap salty tasty grub. Sausages, fries, pasta.

It's really taste. I prefer the London escort scene personally. I like having a nice dinner solo, having a girl over, finishing, sending her off, and watching a show before bed. In FKKs I feel like I'm trying to go for my next nut and it's never as good as the first. And the Time pressure makes it less of an enjoyable experience. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]Anyone can chime in. My first and only experience in an FKK was palace, and I loved it. Its easy to get to and clean with good food.

It seems Frankfurt is the preferred city for FKK shopping, or is it that you can get regular flights from the USA there?

I was going to go Cologne to visit Samya later in the year but I don't think it will open back up till 2021. I am dreading it because it means hunting for street girls in the cold, or trying to arrange escorts to come back to my hotel. I don't really have much interest for sightseeing in Germany with covid and Ryan air (don't ever use that airline) will charge if I want to push back the flight.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2480356]Anyone can chime in. My first and only experience in an FKK was palace, and I loved it. Its easy to get to and clean with good food.

It seems Frankfurt is the preferred city for FKK shopping, or is it that you can get regular flights from the USA there?

I was going to go Cologne to visit Samya later in the year but I don't think it will open back up till 2021. I am dreading it because it means hunting for street girls in the cold, or trying to arrange escorts to come back to my hotel. I don't really have much interest for sightseeing in Germany with covid and Ryan air (don't ever use that airline) will charge if I want to push back the flight.[/QUOTE]Palace is OK but if go to Sharks or Oase you won't go Back to Palace. Yes Frankfurt is widely considered best but Cologne and theüsseldorf have some fine offerings I am told.

Right now I'the suggest Globe in Zurich. It's open and hopping. I've heard Austria — like GoldenTime Vienna is open also. Have heard good things about it. And frankly the options are few besides these.

[QUOTE=Uktouae;2475815]Hello.

A mate of mine is panicking because he's seen his first escort in the UK and is now being threatened (isn't that just the way); he agreed to meet up with the girl but got a call from work booking him on so he tried to cancel. She apparently got upset and demanded that he come at a different time than agreed (an hour or so early). He got there paid the agreed amount got a covered blow job and left. Since then she's been saying he messed her about and is demanding that he pay for the time she lost and has implied violence through other parties. I'm a bit iffy on my legalities since I'm not based in the UK and when I am I only see trusted folk but seeing an escort is legal correct? And her being threatening is not? I've advised him to call the non emergency police number but he's afraid he's going to get in trouble a google search appears to back me up but he'd like some confirmation from experienced heads. Could anyone here help out?
EDIT: I've just been informed that she has: his real name, picture and number and has said "it's not difficult to find you" and "see you soon". That has to be an offence no?[/QUOTE]It is quite simple really: Your mate must decide how real the threat is. If he considers the threat real, then he should follow this guidance:

[URL]https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/problems/tackling-nuisance-calls-and-messages/abusive-and-threatening-calls[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2479849]...
There have been new rules in places from past few years, which means "you can touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly!"

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I am not sure that is correct. If touching is going on, the premises are breaking the terms of their licence (at least as far as Westminster Council is concerned) which will have been granted by the local Council.

What's more, if you post details of such activities in relation to a specific club you are just helping the enforcement officers to do their job.

The demise of the Windmill Club is an example of this.

[QUOTE=Sobo77;2481061]I am not sure that is correct. If touching is going on, the premises are breaking the terms of their licence (at least as far as Westminster Council is concerned) which will have been granted by the local Council.

What's more, if you post details of such activities in relation to a specific club you are just helping the enforcement officers to do their job.

The demise of the Windmill Club is an example of this.[/QUOTE]Let's just say it out loud. Strip Clubs in UK suck! Why would you pay a few hundred pounds to look at pretty girls when you can fuck one in her bed for £150? Get a well reviewed agency girl go to her place and you will NEVER go to a UK strip club again.

In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2481701]In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.[/QUOTE]Well according to Mastercard London usually has the most overseas visitors of any city in the world (19,233,0000 in 2018) only Bangkok has more. So with all overseas visits at a stand-still due to 14 day quarantine requirement for almost all international arrivals it's not surprising that the west-end in particular is quiet.

But as far as escorts are concerned a quick search today on Adultwork showed 574 ladies within a 10 mile radius of central London who have paid extra to have the green 'available today' showing on their profile.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2481095]Let's just say it out loud. Strip Clubs in UK suck! Why would you pay a few hundred pounds to look at pretty girls when you can fuck one in her bed for 150? Get a well reviewed agency girl go to her place and you will NEVER go to a UK strip club again.[/QUOTE]Honestly I've wondered the same thing here in the US. Strip clubs are legal, and everything else is not. I'm sure the illegality is baked into the pricing. But I've always marveled at the idea of spending 100-200 dollars in a strip club (entry fee, mandatory drink purchases, and lap dances) and leaving with full balls. It's seems like an idiot's game. Especially when the massage parlor up the street will rub one out for you for 100 all-in with none of the games. Sure the girls are less hot, but you want the steak you can only touch or the hamburger you can actually eat?

You all in Europe and Asia don't realize how lucky you are. Here in the US the Puritan laws really mess up the game for us. We have escorts but it's much more a gamble.

In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.

Apologies mate, there was a typo.

"you can't touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly!

[QUOTE=Sobo77;2481061]I am not sure that is correct. If touching is going on, the premises are breaking the terms of their licence (at least as far as Westminster Council is concerned) which will have been granted by the local Council.

What's more, if you post details of such activities in relation to a specific club you are just helping the enforcement officers to do their job.

The demise of the Windmill Club is an example of this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2481917]In the past 8 weeks I have been to Stockholm, Madrid, Malaga, Gibraltar, Berlin and Manchester (where there is a local lockdown). None were as "dead" as London tonight. 95% of restaurants closed at 9 pm, many pubs closed, casinos dead, strip clubs (e. G. Sunset Dean St) closed. Lots of escorts advertising online but when you call "not available". London is, officially, or rather unofficially, closed. I won't be coming back for some time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I have placed an x next to the UK for now.

Hello guys there have been a lot of talk on this forum lately about London being dead ATM, I would have to disagree, there are still girls out there, but require a bit more searching.

Allow me to introduce you to Nicolle_HOT. SexYXXX.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/4234006[/URL]

I wouldn't recommend adultwork to overseas travellers, but this girl is the real deal and she is good as her reviews make her to be. I have seen her 3 times this year and it keeps getting better. She works out of a small flat in Croydon, which is just a 15 min train ride from London Victoria for all you tourist. Owo with sex for the hour is 120, which is little money for all you big ballers out there.

Encounter.

As I entered the door I as greeted with a warm smile, she was wearing red lace lingerie with a body that is more Latino than Romanian, her ass is Phat! She has silicone with a few tattoos, but it flows well. I sat down on the bed and we got talking 80 half an hour with owo. She was very chatty and very tactile.

She pulled me on top of her and started nibbling on my neck, undressing me as she was doing so. Once naked I went down for some tlc, one of the few girls I do that to. Her Pussy is exceptionally smooth, and she was massaging my head whilst I was licking her clit. We switch to 69 but could not get the right angle, she is quite tall about 5,8. She proceeded to give me head for the next 10 minutes. Everything was on the cards, deep throat, shaft licking and playing with the balls. For a good 5 minutes I was buried deep in the back of her throat.

Once the dom went on she got on top, she is Romanian, but I am sure she has got some residual Turkish blood flowing through her because she is strong, tall, and curvaceous. She held me in a vice grip, whilst grinding on top, biting, and licking my ears at the same time. We switch to missionary until I cum, whilst I was on top, she continued with the same biting and licking, a very sensual experience. We chatted for a while then I left, with pleads from her to return, and I will.

I have been mongering for about 10 years now and I would put this girl as one of the best experiences I have had in this country. She easily rivals any FKK girl and is one of those rare gems that want to please her clients.

So every week I like to pop over to Diva website and see who's been fucking my faves and who the new girls are. I've been keeping a list for next time I am in town. There are no less than 17 girls — all 150 £ — that I want to see. 7 repeats and 10 new girls. Damn you guys are lucky who have access. I can't WAIT to go to London and see my Ro-girls! (And one Thai LOL).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2484623]So every week I like to pop over to Diva website and see who's been fucking my faves and who the new girls are. I've been keeping a list for next time I am in town. There are no less than 17 girls all 150 that I want to see. 7 repeats and 10 new girls. Damn you guys are lucky who have access. I can't WAIT to go to London and see my Ro-girls! (And one Thai LOL).[/QUOTE]Wow! You are lucky man you are the one who is going to try all the girls.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2481994]Apologies mate, there was a typo.

"you can't touch the girls, while dancing, and the girls won't touch you below your belly![/QUOTE]Why the girls won't touch below the belly?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2484623]So every week I like to pop over to Diva website and see who's been fucking my faves and who the new girls are. I've been keeping a list for next time I am in town. There are no less than 17 girls all 150 that I want to see. 7 repeats and 10 new girls. Damn you guys are lucky who have access. I can't WAIT to go to London and see my Ro-girls! (And one Thai LOL).[/QUOTE]I agree! When I look at the Diva reviews page and see folks who have just been with Fortune, Henny, and Mermaid, I just smile and remember the great times I had fucking those girls.

I usually have a "no repeat" rule, but I may bend that rule for one of those girls.

And then I see all of the new girls at 150 who I want to experience as new pussy! I don't know when I'll get a chance to leave the United States and go to London, but when I do I'll have to bring bags of cash and bottles of viagra!

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Man,

I just read an article that made me sick. It was a news article saying International air travel is going to be the last sector to recover and it won't really get going again until 2024.

Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get on an international flight until 2024.

But it probably does mean it will not be as easy as packing your bags and going.

I usually squeeze these trips in with business travel. Otherwise what business do I have going to London for a week? Now that Business "travel" is happening over zoom, I fear we a long time away Unless your life permits you to just pick up and go.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2484862]I agree! When I look at the Diva reviews page and see folks who have just been with Fortune, Henny, and Mermaid, I just smile and remember the great times I had fucking those girls.

I usually have a "no repeat" rule, but I may bend that rule for one of those girls.

And then I see all of the new girls at 150 who I want to experience as new pussy! I don't know when I'll get a chance to leave the United States and go to London, but when I do I'll have to bring bags of cash and bottles of viagra![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2485133]Man,

I just read an article that made me sick. It was a news article saying International air travel is going to be the last sector to recover and it won't really get going again until 2024.

Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get on an international flight until 2024.

But it probably does mean it will not be as easy as packing your bags and going.

I usually squeeze these trips in with business travel. Otherwise what business do I have going to London for a week? Now that Business "travel" is happening over zoom, I fear we a long time away Unless your life permits you to just pick up and go.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would also squeeze in fucking international escorts while on business trips, too. It was getting good and then, bam!, covid shut things down.

So, I'm diversifying my portfolio by following this plan:

- Improving my nutrition and exercise. This is good even in a world without escorts, but, when international travel is back, I want to be as healthy and fit as possible. A healthy body results in even better fucking.

- Trying the Asian Massage Parlor scene (AMP). I'm using USAsexGuide for this. I really hate mongering in places where it's illegal, but I think that AMPS are low risk compared to escorts or streetwalkers. I'm hoping to find a few cute Asian girls not far from where I work and become regulars.

- I'm also studying the great reports in this forum and the USA version. I'm improving my game by increasing my knowledge.

If all goes well, I'll return to places like London fitter and with a few Korean, Thai, Filipina, and Chinese girls added to my body count.

What are the other Americans in this forum doing while we're in lockdown?

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2485133]Man,

I just read an article that made me sick. It was a news article saying International air travel is going to be the last sector to recover and it won't really get going again until 2024.

Obviously that doesn't mean you can't get on an international flight until 2024.

But it probably does mean it will not be as easy as packing your bags and going.

I usually squeeze these trips in with business travel. Otherwise what business do I have going to London for a week? Now that Business "travel" is happening over zoom, I fear we a long time away Unless your life permits you to just pick up and go.[/QUOTE]Less business travelers means less revenue for prostitutes. Less revenue for prostitutes means less girls going into the business. Less girls going into the business means sex tourism becoming less attractive. Business travel happening by zoom means sex by zoom, viz. Chaturbate.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2486081]Yeah, I would also squeeze in fucking international escorts while on business trips, too. It was getting good and then, bam!, covid

What are the other Americans in this forum doing while we're in lockdown?[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangement and sugar babies is where it's at in the US these days. Tons of work but some great finds to be had. I just wrote a beginners guide on the thread over there (under Dating Agencies category).

If you go the AMP route Rubmaps was always a good resource for this when I was doing that scene a few years back.

I will definitely be looking for this seeking arrangements guide. Thanks in advance for writing it.

I always assumed Seeking was just a big steaming pile of scam. I'm actually kind of surprised to hear that it has any merit as a place to get action. Is it reliable? By that I mean do you have to spend a lot of time wading through nonsense, batting away scams and such? Or are the ladies on there actually ready to play?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2486110]Seeking Arrangement and sugar babies is where it's at in the US these days. Tons of work but some great finds to be had. I just wrote a beginners guide on the thread over there (under Dating Agencies category).

If you go the AMP route Rubmaps was always a good resource for this when I was doing that scene a few years back.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I doubt that.

I'm not saying chaturbate and it's ilk are not doing well. I just think they are a temporary substitute. There's no way people are going to give up human contact. Of all places in the flesh exchange.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2486084]Less business travelers means less revenue for prostitutes. Less revenue for prostitutes means less girls going into the business. Less girls going into the business means sex tourism becoming less attractive. Business travel happening by zoom means sex by zoom, viz. Chaturbate.[/QUOTE]

Honestly nothing.

Used to get my fix at AMPS. But f that. I know people who got COVID and that s* is nasty.

I'm really missing the real thing. But what I am doing now? Sadly, online tube sites and hand lotion. It's sad.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2486081]What are the other Americans in this forum doing while we're in lockdown?[/QUOTE]

In the past I have given a report about street girls in Sussex Gardens and have recommended not seeing them. Some days ago was driving by and saw a nice looking girl. She quoted me £50 for a quick one and we went to a church's backyard. Went to fuck her and her pussy was smelling really bad. Needless to say that I couldn't finish and the encounter ended there. We jumped the fence and after 10 seconds the police appeared. I don't know if there are cameras and they saw us but this could have put me in a lot of troubles. Luckily they didn't stop us. Will never do such a foolish thing.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2486184]I will definitely be looking for this seeking arrangements guide. Thanks in advance for writing it.

I always assumed Seeking was just a big steaming pile of scam. I'm actually kind of surprised to hear that it has any merit as a place to get action. Is it reliable? By that I mean do you have to spend a lot of time wading through nonsense, batting away scams and such? Or are the ladies on there actually ready to play?[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right Seeking is a ton of work. Plenty of scams and straight up hookers (not that that's a bad thing). But if you spend the time and engage in a ton of interactions with the right approach you can find the gems. And gems they are. Real girls who will spend a full evening with you (including GFE sex) and maybe even sleep over. All for the price of one hour with a hooker.

I discovered SA last June and saw 20 girls between June and December, sealing the deal with 18 out of 20. You have to play the game right tho. If you just want to pay for sex, the best girls will run away. Tons of info on this in the Seeking thread.

It's saved my bacon during Covid. I've had two babies where once we got comfy would skip all the "going out" part and just hit the room on a weekly or bi weekly basis. One we even used her place for the meetups. That was pretty great.

Anyhow if you put in the time and have some game it's wonderful. Certainly best thing in the US.

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2486371]In the past I have given a report about street girls in Sussex Gardens and have recommended not seeing them. Some days ago was driving by and saw a nice looking girl. She quoted me 50 for a quick one and we went to a church's backyard. Went to fuck her and her pussy was smelling really bad. Needless to say that I couldn't finish and the encounter ended there. We jumped the fence and after 10 seconds the police appeared. I don't know if there are cameras and they saw us but this could have put me in a lot of troubles. Luckily they didn't stop us. Will never do such a foolish thing.[/QUOTE]Lolol, Morand this is a rookie mistake, I have never and will never touch any street girls in this country. Too risky, especially when there are so many good incall options available, like Nicolle in Croydon. BTW 50 for a quick one sounds like a rip off, especially for a SW.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2484862]

And then I see all of the new girls at 150 who I want to experience as new pussy! I don't know when I'll get a chance to leave the United States and go to London, but when I do I'll have to bring bags of cash and bottles of viagra![/QUOTE]Guys, I don't know how you do it.

I don't have any trips planned to London, good thing they wouldn't let me in.

But seeing all those pictures of girls I can't have and will likely never have. That just feels like torture to me.

I am willing to research like crazy when I have a trip coming up and I might get to be with the girl, but it feels cruel to get excited for girls I can't have.

I would rather not look.

MM.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2486376]I've had two babies where once we got comfy would skip all the "going out" part and just hit the room on a weekly or bi weekly basis. One we even used her place for the meetups. That was pretty great.

Anyhow if you put in the time and have some game it's wonderful. Certainly best thing in the US.[/QUOTE]Yea but you still have to pay them. And usually an extremely high amount compared to what you can get elsewhere (especially in other countries).

And then there's the whole "going out" part which is boring and costs money, too.

I'll take a window girl over that any day.

To me, London is not worth the trouble for mongering purposes. Especially when Belgium and Germany are so close.

I got lucky once in London and found a hot Romanian girl for 60 gbp. But I still had to pay for 2 Uber's (or take the underground), and it was just pure luck that she looked like her photos.

Mostly I just see prices that are way too high and not worth it to me.

First time to London & I am arriving shortly and will be staying very Close to Piccadilly Circus and Soho, is This a good location for mongering in your fine city? I have read back about 10 pages and I thank many of you for providing great details on London. My question is I have heard so much about a few providers namely Melty but I can't seem to find her on any of the agency sites, can someone help me with that. Also is Soho a decent place to monger anymore or just fun to have beers, any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Note-I will only be in London for an overnight but arriving quite early and would like to enjoy London's beauty at least twice LOL.

[QUOTE=Sailfish69;2486759]First time to London & I am arriving shortly and will be staying very Close to Piccadilly Circus and Soho, is This a good location for mongering in your fine city? I have read back about 10 pages and I thank many of you for providing great details on London. My question is I have heard so much about a few providers namely Melty but I can't seem to find her on any of the agency sites, can someone help me with that. Also is Soho a decent place to monger anymore or just fun to have beers, any info or guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Note-I will only be in London for an overnight but arriving quite early and would like to enjoy London's beauty at least twice LOL.[/QUOTE]Where you stay is not really important for meeting girls. You can Uber just about anywhere. Most of the girls I see (150 £) are in Bayswater or Paddington area but easy to get there from Soho. Just go to the Diva escorts website and have a look around. They have the girls locations also but wouldn't expect many in SoHo as rents are sky high there.

Melty is great but apparently away. Plenty of other great girls. Key thing is read their reviews. You cannot go wrong with a well reviewed Diva girl.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2486796]Where you stay is not really important for meeting girls. You can Uber just about anywhere. Most of the girls I see (150 ) are in Bayswater or Paddington area but easy to get there from Soho. Just go to the Diva escorts website and have a look around. They have the girls locations also but wouldn't expect many in SoHo as rents are sky high there.

Melty is great but apparently away. Plenty of other great girls. Key thing is read their reviews. You cannot go wrong with a well reviewed Diva girl.[/QUOTE]S69,

Steve is right, he explained London to me and I had a great time.

Check out the Diva escorts. They were easy to connect with on Whatsapp and gave great service. I am not sure which country you are coming from and what your budget is. I found the Diva girls to be comparable the prices I would pay in my local club. So as long at it fits your budget you should be all set.

Some of the girls are a couple years older than their profile age. It is best to look at the date of the first review and then add the number of years from the review date until today to her age. That tends to be more accurate. Many guys don't care about age but I prefer 18 - 22 year olds, so that was important to me.

Some of the girls photoshop their boobs to make them look bigger, but frequently the cup sized listed is accurate. I prefer A and be cups and I eliminated all girls with enhanced tits, because I don't like silicone.

I only had Melty once and that was mistake I should have repeated with her. I see the following girls who I visited with last year are all working when you will be there.

Elementa.

Brinley.

Lalibela.

Rushana.

As always YMMV and enjoyed some more than others but all got the job done.

Most of them have raised their prices since I had them, but that is what happens with the good ones.

I would also suggest don't be afraid to try out a new girl with no reviews as long as you understand the risk. She may not be that good or she may be amazing and you get to have her before all the other hard penises take a swing at her.

I got started on a layover in Heathrow and I had 5 hours to get to London and back to Heathrow to my plane. After that I purposely booked flights with longer layovers. These where typically cheaper flights to because who wants to sit around the airport all day.

I never took an UBER. You can take the Paddington express from Heathrow to Paddington and and be in downtown London in 20 minutes. There are many girls walking distance from Paddington station, in these beautiful old turn of the century stone buildings. It is the London of my imagination.

Or purchase and oyster card in Heathrow before you get on the train, there is a vending machine that sells them in the train terminal. Then you can ride the tube anywhere you want to go.

I often booked flights to have a 9 or 12 hour layover. I would land in the morning and see my first girl at 9:00 am (frequently she was still in bed). For a new girl I typically did a 30 minute session. Depending on how much I liked her I would the do the second session for 45 or 60 or 120 minutes. Then I would space the girls out so it would take me an hour or so to walk between their apartments that gave me enough time to get through the refractory period and be able to get hard again for the next round. Also walking around London was really pleasant and a great way to see the city, except for when it was raining.

My most adventurous day I saw 6 girls. I couldn't orgasm with all six but I still enjoyed their company. You will have no problem getting 2 in one day, and you can schedule them any time you have 30 minutes free. It is pretty awesome.

By the way spending an entire day in the company of young sexy girls and walking a couple miles between each of their apartments when I got back to the airport and flew out, I slept great the whole flight. Several times people commented about what a great sleeper I was. I just smiled and told them I had a little ritual that helps me sleep.

Anyway back to Diva just request what you want. I tend to be a hot person, so I told Diva to have all each of the girls turn the heat down in their apartment before I arrived. I don't like make up, so I told Diva to request each of the girls to not wear any make up. You request anything you want except for sexual things that is between you and girl, but Diva sets up the rest.

I like to do COF, so I would pick a girl that allowed that for my first session of the day. I never had a girl refuse it if it was in her profile. Although I have heard of girls refusing things, but I didn't experience it

One last tip is when I was doing early morning sessions with the girl, I told Diva that I would confirm the session the night before so I didn't have to deal with it in the morning.

Have great time, I am getting jealous just writing this. Be sure to post a report or send me note let me know how things worked out.

You can PM me if you have more questions.

MM.

Anybody bb a diva girl? PM me if you don't want to answer in public.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Shtupp;2487270]Anybody bb a diva girl? PM me if you don't want to answer in public.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hey Shtupp did you ever meet those girls in Harrow I told you about?

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2487381]Hey Shtupp did you ever meet those girls in Harrow I told you about?[/QUOTE]Oh sh! I realized I never said anything since then. Yes I did actually. I investigated two separate places. The problem is that I'm in the Victoria area of London and trying to plan out my day, I would text a girl on WhatsApp but not get a response. I only texted ones off aw or vivastreet. Viva street I have learned is mostly fake pictures. My strategy just turned to going to Harrow (which is about a 45 minute tube ride) and then sit in a pub or restaurant and then start texting girls to see if I could come over. I tried the one where you said there were young girls but they didn't answer me before Milena.

I worked my way over to her neighborhood and called on the phone to get the house number. She greeted me at the door and I was pleased with what I saw. Short thin a cup girl wearing tight top and jeans. She brought me in and then asked if I wanted her or another really skanky looking girl with a cig in her mouth. Of course I went for her. Price for HR BBFS was 200 quid. Then it became obvious that this was a very busy house. At least 4-5 other working girls there with customers. All rooms occupied she then asked if I wanted to do her in the bathroom. Ha! I said sure wtf why not but then a room opened up and we were good to go. Basic service, mechanical nothing really memorable. Basically a cum dump. But she was cute so optically it was ok. BTW about three of the others in the house I would easily do as well. The house is a little pricey though and chaos reigns with clients cuming and going.

Next I texted the one you recommended earlier (Ana I believe) and finally got them to respond. Long story short went in and was presented with three to choose from. Two would not do BBFS so I went with the third. Young, probably about 19, and typical gypsy features. But her attitude. Oh my god. She did not want to be there and it showed. One word answers to everything and never once looked me in the eye. Oh well. I went through with it because she had a rocking body and was actually quite pretty. Did my deed and left. 80/ hhr.

All in all though I get the opinion that they are constantly changing out the talent there so next week will be different than this one. Sure, why not. I actually found a pub there with really cheap pints during the day, but it is a little bit of a trek from London so you have to set aside about four hours out of your day.

[QUOTE=Shtupp;2487477]Oh sh! I realized I never said anything since then. Yes I did actually. I investigated two separate places. The problem is that I'm in the Victoria area of London and trying to plan out my day, I would text a girl on WhatsApp but not get a response. I only texted ones off aw or vivastreet. Viva street I have learned is mostly fake pictures. My strategy just turned to going to Harrow (which is about a 45 minute tube ride) and then sit in a pub or restaurant and then start texting girls to see if I could come over. I tried the one where you said there were young girls but they didn't answer me before Milena.

I worked my way over to her neighborhood and called on the phone to get the house number. She greeted me at the door and I was pleased with what I saw. Short thin a cup girl wearing tight top and jeans. She brought me in and then asked if I wanted her or another really skanky looking girl with a cig in her mouth. Of course I went for her. Price for HR BBFS was 200 quid. Then it became obvious that this was a very busy house. At least 4-5 other working girls there with customers. All rooms occupied she then asked if I wanted to do her in the bathroom. Ha! I said sure wtf why not but then a room opened up and we were good to go. Basic service, mechanical nothing really memorable. Basically a cum dump. But she was cute so optically it was ok. BTW about three of the others in the house I would easily do as well. The house is a little pricey though and chaos reigns with clients cuming and going.[/QUOTE]The girls in Harrow are always on a rotation. I follow the facebooks & tiktoks of the ones I like to see so I know when they are back in London.

You said you paid 200 for the HR are you sure this was not 100? The girls in harrow do full service for an HR for 100. The ones that do full service anyway.

Viva street is tricky, so I use whatsapp to confirm it is really them I also match up the numbers on vivastreet to adultwork to ensure its not a possible bait and switch.

These are the girls I have been with in harrow so far, let me know if you have seen any of them.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5601518[/URL] Bianca, lovely girl, fantastic service. Will return for full service later in the year.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5595170[/URL] I have seen the girl in the picture. Fantastic service. Lovely little spinner and very submissive. Full service for an HR. However, she is now back in Romania and someone else is using her profile.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5623200[/URL] Was this one of the girls you went with? My session with her was good, I will return for full service later in the year. I like that she is tall and slender.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5598836[/URL] Avoid this girl, she is insane, was barking at me to cum 15 min into a 30 min session. Harden pro who has been in the game to long.

[URL]https://www.vivastreet.co.uk/escort/harrow-ha1/new-lady-in-harrow-wealdstone-wembley-kingsbury-sudbury/211812029[/URL] This one gave the most sublime head. She differently loves her work. The hour with her was one of the best experiences I had this year.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2487489]The girls in Harrow are always on a rotation. I follow the facebooks & tiktoks of the ones I like to see so I know when they are back in London.

You said you paid 200 for the HR are you sure this was not 100? The girls in harrow do full service for an HR for 100. The ones that do full service anyway.

Viva street is tricky, so I use whatsapp to confirm it is really them I also match up the numbers on vivastreet to adultwork to ensure its not a possible bait and switch.

These are the girls I have been with in harrow so far, let me know if you have seen any of them.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5601518[/URL] Bianca, lovely girl, fantastic service. Will return for full service later in the year.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5595170[/URL] I have seen the girl in the picture. Fantastic service. Lovely little spinner and very submissive. Full service for an HR. However, she is now back in Romania and someone else is using her profile.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5623200[/URL] Was this one of the girls you went with? My session with her was good, I will return for full service later in the year. I like that she is tall and slender.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5598836[/URL] Avoid this girl, she is insane, was barking at me to cum 15 min into a 30 min session. Harden pro who has been in the game to long.

[URL]https://www.vivastreet.co.uk/escort/harrow-ha1/new-lady-in-harrow-wealdstone-wembley-kingsbury-sudbury/211812029[/URL] This one gave the most sublime head. She differently loves her work. The hour with her was one of the best experiences I had this year.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.

Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.

The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.

All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.

Thanks for your suggestions!

[QUOTE=Shtupp;2488004]I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.

Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.

The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.

All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.

Thanks for your suggestions![/QUOTE]I think your feedback is probably similar to most of London for the non-high / non Diva like agency escorts.

Been here a few years and below is my understanding.

A majority of the girls on AW are either Romanian or east European. Most of the Romanians will be £80 for the hour, £60 for half hour and BBBJ included. Some of them do Bareback as well. Never tried but they write so on their profiles. Those photos are mostly genuine. But in most cases the house is like a working girl house where there will be multiple girls who are on a rotation and you get to meet whoever you have called / chosen. My experience with these ones has mostly been poor. They are always in a rush-rush situation, asking you to get done in half of your time, they stink of smoke and you wouldn't want to be there in all likeliness. They never have a word with you or have single word answers, no eye contact or any feeling. Extremely mechanical. This is not saying you wouldn't have any good ones. But they are extremely far and few. Out of around 40 experiences, I have had about 4 which were extremely pleasant, 10 which were ok-ok and the others were mainly negative.

You might also get some Hungarian or Slovak ones every now and then. The experience with them is mostly positive or at least better than Romanians.

I have come to the point to avoid Romanians like the plague.

With regards to Viva. Most of the ads are fake or photos are fake but service tends to be a bit better.

In the area I am at there is generally 1 or 2 ads by a Korean or a Japanese provider. Again they have a rotation policy and every couple of weeks there will be a new girls. Even their photos are totally fake and so is their details. They will write about a girl in 20's but it will always by a bit older. However. The experience here is much better. Most of the times it will be a mid quality but clean apartment or a house. You will be welcomes by an Asian hustler and guided to the room. Again smells of cigarettes but not very bad. The charge is £100 per hour and then another £10 for BBBJ. But the experience is overall much better. They allow a good level of GFE, do some massaging, playing over the body and then the normal action. And then repeat. They also help you get dressed and one of them was so particular that she mended by collars, belts, etc. As I was trying to rush out in hurry.

Given the more recent experience I have almost moved to the Asian ones rather than eastern European ones.

[QUOTE=Shtupp;2488004]I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.

Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.

The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.

All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.

Thanks for your suggestions![/QUOTE]Shtupp you hit the nail on the head. When I see a diva girl I am going to write a long review, since there is so much discussion about them on this forum. But my bread and butter has been A work and viva. This is because I like to visit girls every week, not just once or twice a month.

Areas like Harrow, Wembley, Stratford, Croydon are prime hunting grounds for someone looking for a cheap session. This is because rent is cheap with high immigration so its easy to open a working girl house without anyone noticing.

Bianca is still fresh in the game, she has only been around since January I believe; so she is not jaded like the other girl I warned you about, (they both work in the same house) you will like her. She is sweet and talkative. I will gladly drop a 100 on her.

Hey Kuldud2001 I agree with your sentiment. Romanians have a bad rep, but I find the gypsy girls do give better service. Personally, I like the gypsy look, but I know some guys don't.

Regarding east Asians, I have rarely ever gone with them since all! Their ads are fake.

I think whether you go with an agency like Diva, a diamond in the rough on A Work or viva, or a sugar baby on SA all depends on time. For me, especially when I'm in a foreign city like London, I'm trying to squeeze the most out of every minute and second. So, spending lots of time on something that may be a mediocre / horrible experience isn't my cup of tea. In my experience, Diva supplies the highest probability for an attractive girl for a price I'm willing to pay, and the time commitment is low.

Actually, this applies to the mongering I'm doing in the USA. I need to easily find a stunner, fuck her, and be on my way, ideally in an hour or less. Two pops is a nice bonus.

However, I totally respect those who have the time and the will to use other avenues.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2488322]I think whether you go with an agency like Diva, a diamond in the rough on A Work or viva, or a sugar baby on SA all depends on time. For me, especially when I'm in a foreign city like London, I'm trying to squeeze the most out of every minute and second. So, spending lots of time on something that may be a mediocre / horrible experience isn't my cup of tea. In my experience, Diva supplies the highest probability for an attractive girl for a price I'm willing to pay, and the time commitment is low.

Actually, this applies to the mongering I'm doing in the USA. I need to easily find a stunner, fuck her, and be on my way, ideally in an hour or less. Two pops is a nice bonus.

However, I totally respect those who have the time and the will to use other avenues.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Diva is the absolute best. Just a little background. I was in London for about a year till a few months ago. With the wife being here in the US, tried every other legit agency (and adultwork). While my absolute best experience (one I'll never forget), was not with Diva, they were the most consistent when it comes to quality. So much so that I spent quite a bit of green with just their agency, close to 2 k on just one Diva and got their membership as well. Peachy was so-and so, Babylon was good as well, but slightly more expensive.

Anyway, I'm back in the US now, blue balls syndrome kicking in and counting down the days to my next trip to London, what a city. Shall post the reviews for the ladies I had the pleasure to meet over the next few days. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Shtupp;2488004]I haven't seen Bianca yet but maybe I'll check her out this week if you say she's good. The third on the list I believe saw and she's the one I said had a really bad attitude. That picture of her doesn't do her justice and she's actually a lot better looking than that. Maybe I caught her on a bad day. Who knows. She was 80/ hhr.

Actually that last one on the list was the first one I saw several weeks ago. She was working out of the same apartment as the other one. I can definitely confirm that she knows how to suck cock. 100/ HR. I'the go back. Pics are her.

The expensive place was at a different location and I probably won't go back there.

All in all Harrow is a good budget option with some skanky Gypsies in a blue collar town. If you are looking for convenient guaranteed service with a pretty young thing, then go with a well reviewed Diva girl. If you have a good sense of adventure and enjoy hunting for a diamond in the rough, then I think the suburban towns like Harrow or Croyden have some good options.

Thanks for your suggestions![/QUOTE]One of the reasons I avoided Harrow is because most of the women there offer BB. There's another forum I found a while back that was dedicated to BB services in and around London and there were tons of reviews of ladies in and around Harrow. Now, if that's what you prefer, no judgement. But I preferred playing safe. I know the monger game is never safe 100% and the feel of BB is unbeatable, just too risky.

[QUOTE=ThePenetrator;2488096]Shtupp you hit the nail on the head. When I see a diva girl I am going to write a long review, since there is so much discussion about them on this forum. But my bread and butter has been A work and viva. This is because I like to visit girls every week, not just once or twice a month.

Areas like Harrow, Wembley, Stratford, Croydon are prime hunting grounds for someone looking for a cheap session. This is because rent is cheap with high immigration so its easy to open a working girl house without anyone noticing.

Bianca is still fresh in the game, she has only been around since January I believe; so she is not jaded like the other girl I warned you about, (they both work in the same house) you will like her. She is sweet and talkative. I will gladly drop a 100 on her.

Hey Kuldud2001 I agree with your sentiment. Romanians have a bad rep, but I find the gypsy girls do give better service. Personally, I like the gypsy look, but I know some guys don't.

Regarding east Asians, I have rarely ever gone with them since all! Their ads are fake.[/QUOTE]The problem with Romanians is just not the handlers. Sometimes the girls are also very rude.

On the points about East Asians. Their ads are fake from the photos perspective but they also have a lady handler. Give them a call and they will send you the photos of the available one. That part is genuine. The service is very nice and personal. I am mostly in Croydon. So if you need pointers. Send me a DM.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2488330] Shall post the reviews for the ladies I had the pleasure to meet over the next few days. Cheers![/QUOTE]It's always good to meet another happy Diva customer! I look forward to reading your reviews. I know that writing a detailed review takes a lot of time, but we all really appreciate the outcome.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2488518]It's always good to meet another happy Diva customer! I look forward to reading your reviews. I know that writing a detailed review takes a lot of time, but we all really appreciate the outcome.[/QUOTE]It's good to see some of my girls getting some love on the Diva reviews. Mermaid was on tear for a while and recommended by Andy F s I gave her a roll twice. Wow. That girl is passionate. I think her DFK may be top worldwide best. And that's a high bar!

Good to see Noleta getting the love too. What an amazing pleaser she is. Gorgeous and offers me wine from her fridge. Pure bliss. Glad she's getting due respect these days. She will be top of my list now that Melty seems to have flown maybe for good.

I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2490314]I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?[/QUOTE]Never been to Montreal but I think the cost will be approximately the same. From now on will be freezing in Montreal so it's better to visit London.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2490314]I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?[/QUOTE]Quick answer for cheapness: Montreal (though not by much).

I take 1 of 2 paths when it comes to accommodation: luxury hotel or airbnb. When comparing apples to apples, I always felt like I got more for less in Montreal.

Food: It's a wash. Totally depends on where you eat. It can be high or low in both places.

Trans: the pound conversion always kills me, but both cities are really easy to get around in. I prefer London for options to get around. I usually rent a car in Montreal which gives you alot more options for getting around. I wouldn't drive in London. Just my opinion.

The hobby: Totally depends on how you engage the hobby (Strip clubs / AMP / outcall / GFE session / sex party, etc) and how many girls you want to bang. In general, you will spend less in Montreal. For example: If I wanted CIF in Montreal, she may want an additional 30 - 50 CD, where in London she would want 50 Pounds more. That's $37 vs $64 for that CIF extra. London has more choices, but if you are converting from US dollars, you will spend a bit less in Montreal (and I love the french Montreal girls. OMG). This applies to SBs too. I've seen that SBs want 300 - 500 in their respective currencies. If you negotiate 300 in both places, that's literally a difference of $160 based on currency conversion. Montreal wins.

If I'm trying to spend less and take a shorter flight, I would hit Montreal. If flight time didn't' matter, I would choose London, even though it's a bit more expensive.

,02.

I've done both and enjoyed both immensely.

Honestly, I think you might be asking the wrong question. You might spend a little bit less in Montreal, but it's comparing the cost of McDonald's to Five Guys. There's a price difference but it's not the reason you would choose one or the other.

Both are European-like destinations. Both have European-like girls, although in London they're more Eastern European and in Montreal they're more French Canadian.

The real decision is what kind of experience you want to have around the hobby. London is a world Mecca with theater, tube, sights, etc. Montreal is more compact (tho still a large city), with fewer tourist sites but beautiful. And it's closer and easier to get to if you're American.

That's really how I'd decide. If time were no constraint I'd do London because there's just so much to do in between sessions.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2490314]I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?[/QUOTE]

Hi gents. One more endorsement for Olina escorts here, after seeing a few girls there. My favorite so far is Nicky: hot body, and she did all that I wanted with little or no prompting (FIV, FIA, rimming, anal), where other girls can seem to hold back even for services on their menu. I saw a couple of girls that aren't there anymore, and the only trouble with some of these girls is that the pictures can be 'generous' - they're of the real girls, but as you can expect, they're retouched so that the girls look better in the pictures. Still, though, their services have been as described. Sorry I don't have all the names, but Nicky is one that's still there, that I would recommend.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2490737]Hi gents. One more endorsement for Olina escorts here, after seeing a few girls there. My favorite so far is Nicky: hot body, and she did all that I wanted with little or no prompting (FIV, FIA, rimming, anal), where other girls can seem to hold back even for services on their menu. I saw a couple of girls that aren't there anymore, and the only trouble with some of these girls is that the pictures can be 'generous' - they're of the real girls, but as you can expect, they're retouched so that the girls look better in the pictures. Still, though, their services have been as described. Sorry I don't have all the names, but Nicky is one that's still there, that I would recommend.[/QUOTE]Yeah Nicky was on my to do list. She was pretty new when I was last there. Definitely need to check her out. Anna is positively worth a visit. She's a bit older at late 20's but fuck wow what a wildcat. Will DFK your face off and is one horny girl. High recommend.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2490613]I've done both and enjoyed both immensely.

Honestly, I think you might be asking the wrong question. You might spend a little bit less in Montreal, but it's comparing the cost of McDonald's to Five Guys. There's a price difference but it's not the reason you would choose one or the other.

Both are European-like destinations. Both have European-like girls, although in London they're more Eastern European and in Montreal they're more French Canadian.

The real decision is what kind of experience you want to have around the hobby. London is a world Mecca with theater, tube, sights, etc. Montreal is more compact (tho still a large city), with fewer tourist sites but beautiful. And it's closer and easier to get to if you're American.

That's really how I'd decide. If time were no constraint I'd do London because there's just so much to do in between sessions.[/QUOTE]I have asked the other question before and it came out even stevens. I'm thinking the same outcome in terms of expenditure. I have been to both cities, London on numerous occasions and Montreal in 1984. I visited strip clubs in both cities but never mongered. I like both cities very much.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2490314]I have not been able to resolve this issue. Barring airfare which city would be cheaper including accommodation, food, transportation and pursuing our hobby? London or Montreal?[/QUOTE]Prices are not set in stone but here you go. [URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United[/URL]+Kingdom&city2=London.

I see lots of good reviews here about Diva girls, and I am tempted to try a duo, but a question about the 'bi duo' service that is listed on a lot of the girls' pages: do the girls play with each other? I'd like to have a duo where the girls play with each other (make out with each other, eat each others pussies, lick each others tits), and also play with me. When I have tried a duo at FKK clubs, the girls just played with me, but didn't really touch each other. So, is a 'bi duo' with Diva girls really bi, or do the girls just play with the man?

I'm confused, because in FKK I barely found any girls willing to play with each other (and even then I hear it's mechanical), but I see lots of girls that offer 'bi duo' on Diva. The number of 'bi duo' girls seems too good to be true, so I wonder if 'bi' isn't actually real. However, it also looks like all the girls with 'bi duo' as a service are also listed with an orientation of 'bi' in their profiles, while some other girls are listed as 'hetero', don't offer 'bi duo' service, but still have duo partners listed (examples: Lalibela, Sakura) - so maybe these are the girls that only play with the man in the duo, while the 'bi duo' girls also play with each other?

This is a question on Diva girls in general when the 'bi duo' service is listed (if there is any consistent standard), but like anything else it might depend on the girls. The duos I'm eyeing are with Noleta+Tiramisu, Frieda+Mikel, and Sarah+(whoever she duos with).

[QUOTE=NF4591;2491272]I see lots of good reviews here about Diva girls, and I am tempted to try a duo, but a question about the 'bi duo' service that is listed on a lot of the girls' pages: do the girls play with each other? I'd like to have a duo where the girls play with each other (make out with each other, eat each others pussies, lick each others tits), and also play with me. When I have tried a duo at FKK clubs, the girls just played with me, but didn't really touch each other. So, is a 'bi duo' with Diva girls really bi, or do the girls just play with the man?

I'm confused, because in FKK I barely found any girls willing to play with each other (and even then I hear it's mechanical), but I see lots of girls that offer 'bi duo' on Diva. The number of 'bi duo' girls seems too good to be true, so I wonder if 'bi' isn't actually real. However, it also looks like all the girls with 'bi duo' as a service are also listed with an orientation of 'bi' in their profiles, while some other girls are listed as 'hetero', don't offer 'bi duo' service, but still have duo partners listed (examples: Lalibela, Sakura) - so maybe these are the girls that only play with the man in the duo, while the 'bi duo' girls also play with each other?

This is a question on Diva girls in general when the 'bi duo' service is listed (if there is any consistent standard), but like anything else it might depend on the girls. The duos I'm eyeing are with Noleta+Tiramisu, Frieda+Mikel, and Sarah+(whoever she duos with).[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct that, in Diva terms, a duo is two girls on a guy and a Bi-duo involves the girls on each other. Lots of girls list it but unfortunately very few girls are truly into it, just as you say. I remember Fiona complaining that she had to service a woman but Rivetta lamenting that she can't find a good true bi-girl for Diva to pair her with. So it varies and unfortunately I think it's a dice roll with not great odds.

That said I'the roll the dice with Noleta and Tiramisu. Noleta is such a pleaser and super sensual. I'the be surprised if she's not bi or at least can fake it with the best. And even if the bi part doesn't work out I know Noleta Tiramisu will be legendary and worth every penny.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2491283]That said I'the roll the dice with Noleta and Tiramisu. Noleta is such a pleaser and super sensual. I'the be surprised if she's not bi or at least can fake it with the best. And even if the bi part doesn't work out I know Noleta Tiramisu will be legendary and worth every penny.[/QUOTE]I agree with Steve. I fucked Noleta a little over a year ago, and she is super attractive with almost runway model looks. My session with he was before she had breast implants put in, and I personally preferred her natural breasts. However, if you don't mind fake tits, then Noleta is a sure thing.

I met Tiramisu after I finished with Noleta (they were room mates), and she was stunning. She was sitting down, and she just exuded sexiness. Fucking both of them will certainly be a good time.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2491140]Prices are not set in stone but here you go. [URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&city1=Montreal&country2=United[/URL]+Kingdom&city2=London.[/QUOTE]Hope this link works. [URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United[/URL]+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=Canada&city2=Montreal.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2491470]Hope this link works. [URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United[/URL]+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=Canada&city2=Montreal.[/QUOTE]Thanks. You think I could introduce an additional item under 'Sports and leisure'? Heheheheheh.

I regularly read the Diva Escort reviews page which consistently gets updated with new reviews. Having used their services, I've gotten pretty good at picking out the girls I'd like to fuck based on their profile, pictures, number and types of reviews, etc (you can search my posts to see the rubric I use). It's nice to see the girls I really enjoyed get very positive reviews which aligns with my experiences with them.

This got me thinking. If I could only fuck one Diva girl again who I've fucked before which one would it be? The four that immediately come to the top of the list are [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-mermaid]Mermaid[/URL], [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-noleta]Noleta[/URL], [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune]Fortune[/URL], and [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny]Henny[/URL]. Mermaid was an amazing kisser and just an overall freak, Noleta is gorgeous, and Fortune is lovely and sweet. However, I think I would go with Henny. She has such a great personality, and she's tall with knockout looks. The sex was really good. The pictures on the Diva site don't do her justice, and, if I could only fuck one Diva girl for the rest of my life who I've previously sampled, it would be Henny.

I wanted to share this with the lucky bastards on this forum who can get to London. Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there. So, gentlemen, enjoy her! Thanks in advance for your detailed reviews. . . .

[QUOTE=Atanion;2492378]I regularly read the Diva Escort reviews page which consistently gets updated with new reviews. Having used their services, I've gotten pretty good at picking out the girls I'd like to fuck based on their profile, pictures, number and types of reviews, etc (you can search my posts to see the rubric I use). It's nice to see the girls I really enjoyed get very positive reviews which aligns with my experiences with them.

This got me thinking. If I could only fuck one Diva girl again who I've fucked before which one would it be? The four that immediately come to the top of the list are [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-mermaid]Mermaid[/URL], [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-noleta]Noleta[/URL], [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune]Fortune[/URL], and [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny]Henny[/URL]. Mermaid was an amazing kisser and just an overall freak, Noleta is gorgeous, and Fortune is lovely and sweet. However, I think I would go with Henny. She has such a great personality, and she's tall with knockout looks. The sex was really good. The pictures on the Diva site don't do her justice, and, if I could only fuck one Diva girl for the rest of my life who I've previously sampled, it would be Henny.

I wanted to share this with the lucky bastards on this forum who can get to London. Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there. So, gentlemen, enjoy her! Thanks in advance for your detailed reviews. . . .[/QUOTE]Interesting! We have Mermaid, Noleta and Fortune in common all of whom I would repeat with. Never been with Henny something about her face doesn't rub me right. But now that you recommended her so highly and knowing your taste is my taste. Well well. I have to admit I thought Mermaid was a bit not my taste but Andy recommended her so highly and wow she is much prettier in person. And that DFK. None better. Funny thing about that on adultwork and elsewhere you always hear about these bad surprises. I have to say I've always thought my Diva girls are prettier in person.

All that said, Melty is back! Damn I adore that sex kitten. She would probably be towards the top of my list. New girl Estella absolutely slays me on looks so she might be first up if I ever get back there. Damn soooo many good choices.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2492373]Thanks. You think I could introduce an additional item under 'Sports and leisure'? Heheheheheh.[/QUOTE]I tried to open the link but it shows error.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2492417]Damn soooo many good choices.[/QUOTE]You guys put up a very strong case for Diva. As I think Steve knows, I'm not a fan of using escorts. I much prefer to attend a German FKK, or Spanish brothel / club and have a line up to select from. But when the recommendations are as strong as these it is hard to ignore them and I think when I'm next in London I'll take up some of your recommendations. Looks wise I prefer Melty out of the group you put forward. Though her profile says she is dress size 10 - larger than I like. I prefer slim girls to curvy.

I was put off a while ago when I thought the pictures of Rochelle were knock out. And booked her only to be very disappointed by her looks. Nice girl and her service was ok. But I would never have selected her in a line up in a club and felt tricked. Her pictures show her having (still) a size 8 toned figure, even though her profile say size 10 - in the flesh I thought she was quite easily a size 12. These are the issues with escorts. The pictures can be old and horribly misleading. When you can select from a line up you see before you buy! But I'll give it a go when I'm back to London. Not likely for a month or so but will for sure give it a whirl as two experienced mongers both promoting the same names cannot be wrong. Mermaid looks hot to me.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2492539]You guys put up a very strong case for Diva. As I think Steve knows, I'm not a fan of using escorts. I much prefer to attend a German FKK, or Spanish brothel / club and have a line up to select from. But when the recommendations are as strong as these it is hard to ignore them and I think when I'm next in London I'll take up some of your recommendations. Looks wise I prefer Melty out of the group you put forward. Though her profile says she is dress size 10 - larger than I like. I prefer slim girls to curvy.

I was put off a while ago when I thought the pictures of Rochelle were knock out. And booked her only to be very disappointed by her looks. Nice girl and her service was ok. But I would never have selected her in a line up in a club and felt tricked. Her pictures show her having (still) a size 8 toned figure, even though her profile say size 10 - in the flesh I thought she was quite easily a size 12. These are the issues with escorts. The pictures can be old and horribly misleading. When you can select from a line up you see before you buy! But I'll give it a go when I'm back to London. Not likely for a month or so but will for sure give it a whirl as two experienced mongers both promoting the same names cannot be wrong. Mermaid looks hot to me.[/QUOTE]Would recommend this one. Banging body, model face and is very happy with her job.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=5830868[/URL]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2492417]Interesting! We have Mermaid, Noleta and Fortune in common all of whom I would repeat with. Never been with Henny something about her face doesn't rub me right. But now that you recommended her so highly and knowing your taste is my taste. Well well. I have to admit I thought Mermaid was a bit not my taste but Andy recommended her so highly and wow she is much prettier in person. And that DFK. None better. Funny thing about that on adultwork and elsewhere you always hear about these bad surprises. I have to say I've always thought my Diva girls are prettier in person.

All that said, Melty is back! Damn I adore that sex kitten. She would probably be towards the top of my list. New girl Estella absolutely slays me on looks so she might be first up if I ever get back there. Damn soooo many good choices.[/QUOTE]Henny is way prettier in person than her pictures. She's actually younger looking and more attractive than her pictures suggest (even her selfies).

I hope to get a go at Melty at some point. I generally don't like to go above size 6, but it sounds like she has curves in all the right places.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2492539]You guys put up a very strong case for Diva. As I think Steve knows, I'm not a fan of using escorts. I much prefer to attend a German FKK, or Spanish brothel / club and have a line up to select from. But when the recommendations are as strong as these it is hard to ignore them and I think when I'm next in London I'll take up some of your recommendations. Looks wise I prefer Melty out of the group you put forward. Though her profile says she is dress size 10 - larger than I like. I prefer slim girls to curvy.[/QUOTE]I definitely think you should give Diva a try. I'm optimistically looking forward to your reviews!

[QUOTE=Atanion;2492715]I definitely think you should give Diva a try. I'm optimistically looking forward to your reviews![/QUOTE]Yes I prefer Diva too at least 1 try.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2492373]Thanks. You think I could introduce an additional item under 'Sports and leisure'? Heheheheheh.[/QUOTE]With another round of restrictions and the end of Free movement into the UK soon hitting hard all well known Escort Agencies, clubs and many massage places closed, I wouldn't head to London for mongering.

The years of Good Mongering in London will be just a Good Memory.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2488518]It's always good to meet another happy Diva customer! I look forward to reading your reviews. I know that writing a detailed review takes a lot of time, but we all really appreciate the outcome.[/QUOTE]Sorry about the delayed posts. Crazy few weeks at work here. So, of all the experiences in London, my absolute favorite at Diva was Irada. Disclaimer being that I haven't met Melty and I prefer petite, GFE, submissive beauties. So much so that I met her thrice over the course of 2 months. With Diva, Babylon etc. , I usually go for the at least 90 min. Of service and if available, choose filming with Mask as well. For me, the fetish has been 2 fold, I love to take a few hits of green on my vape and be in my happy space before meeting any of these angels. The video helps me revisit the entire experience later (usually after a few more hits of my vape: D). Moreover, back here in the US, I usually avoid Mongering. The memories of London stay safely tucked away on Google Cloud to help go back to the happy memories.

Anyway, about the experience itself, I've met Irada thrice. Though not the first lady I've met in London, I'll start with her. I'll end with the Pros & Cons at the end so you guys can decide if you would prefer to meet her.

My first session was for 90 min. Booked her through Diva. She is on some of the other websites as well, but the rates vary sometimes. She had a pic on Diva in all black with a headband. Asked if she could come home in that outfit & she happily obliged. Once she arrived, offered her some wine and got around to chatting for a few min. She's fairly shy with broken English but spoke to her for about 5-10 min. To get her comfortable. Got the formalities out of the way and we started with DFK while I helped her remove her top. Worked my hand around her bra clasp and tried to undo it. She turned around and I managed to get the bra off. All this while I was sitting on the bed and she was standing in front of me. She turned back around and I ate away her tiny breasts as though I hadn't had a meal all day. She doesn't have massive jugs and if that's what turns you on, she may not be a good fit for you. If you prefer them petite, you can't go wrong with her. All this while (with her permission of course), I had my Iphone at the corner on the desk recording the deed. I let her lay down on the bed and continued eating away. Her nipples were pointed and hard on, I could hear her breathe heavy and moan ever so quietly. The best part was, all of it was authentic, not the crazy fake moans that some of ladies do just to keep the guy happy. Later on, when I revisited the video, I could see that she had her eyes closed and was licking her lips while I ate away her supple breasts and moved to FIV. After this, she started with some splendid CBJ. Slow and steady, GFE style. The only bit I was not truly happy with was that she never got around to complete DT, which I prefer. Next, she lay back and spread her legs as though to invite me to her gorgeous little V. Moved on to Missionary. After going at it for about 15 min. , she got her lube and I tried A+ as well. This was the first time I was trying A+ in all my life. Funny enough I think she took A+ easier than PIV. The whole deed took about 30-40 min. Or so, I kept moving around my phone cam to get the best views possible. Climaxed back in Missionary, with her legs all the way up on my shoulders and me thrusting away like an animal in heat. We did have a round 2 as well, won't go into it in detail, the experience was more or less the same.

So, coming to Pros & Cons.

Pros: GFE, Petite with a beautiful Body, No Tattoos, Fairly submissive (allows you to lead. I think that's the way she prefers it), Photos are Spot On. I see Diva has some new videos up of her as well. You Get what you see.

Cons: Not total DT. If you prefer the lady to be wild, she may not be the right one for you. Takes some time to warm up, but totally worth it (By the 3rd visit, it was as though we had been dating for ages).

Rating: 9/10 (Again, to reiterate, you'd feel the same only if you like Petite, submissive types).

Now, a total win for me was that I was able to find her on Instagram. I had paid a portion of the formalities through Bank Transfer. Somehow Instagram used the data on my phone, I guess, to suggest her Profile. Quite scary but for once, IG's data exploits worked in my favor: the. So nowadays I do go back to her IG profile once in a while to truly appreciate what an angel she is. She has quite the following there. With that and the few videos I have with her over the course of the 3 visits, Irada was a true Win for me. What an Angel. Highly recommended.

I've tried Peachy, Babylon, Diva & AdultWork over the course of my stay in London. Shall post the other reviews in the coming days. Irada was not my truly Absolute favorite though. Funny enough, the true favorite was not with any of these agencies but at one of those home spas. Will come to that review later. But among all the agencies, I'd say Irada was my Favortie. Of Course, YMMV.

Cheers.

I don't have a premium account here, probably will some day if I actively post reviews etc. Any idea if that's how it works? Meanwhile, do post here if you guys have any questions.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2492378]I regularly read the Diva Escort reviews page which consistently gets updated with new reviews. Having used their services, I've gotten pretty good at picking out the girls I'd like to fuck based on their profile, pictures, number and types of reviews, etc (you can search my posts to see the rubric I use). It's nice to see the girls I really enjoyed get very positive reviews which aligns with my experiences with them.

This got me thinking. If I could only fuck one Diva girl again who I've fucked before which one would it be? The four that immediately come to the top of the list are [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-mermaid]Mermaid[/URL], [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-noleta]Noleta[/URL], [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-bayswater-fortune]Fortune[/URL], and [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny]Henny[/URL]. Mermaid was an amazing kisser and just an overall freak, Noleta is gorgeous, and Fortune is lovely and sweet. However, I think I would go with Henny. She has such a great personality, and she's tall with knockout looks. The sex was really good. The pictures on the Diva site don't do her justice, and, if I could only fuck one Diva girl for the rest of my life who I've previously sampled, it would be Henny.

I wanted to share this with the lucky bastards on this forum who can get to London. Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there. So, gentlemen, enjoy her! Thanks in advance for your detailed reviews. . . .[/QUOTE]"Being trapped in the United States, it may be quite a while before I get back there". So Fkin True. I'm hoping the Canadian border opens soon so I can happily drive over to Toronto. Never mongered there but have been hearing good things. Crazy 2020 - Blue balls ever since I've come back from London.

Thanks to those who responded, for the advice. I saw that Melty & Pantera are back, so I opted for a duo with them: it was fantastic. They did most advertised services (only Melty welcomed fingering, Pantera did not), both have large natural tits (especially Pantera), and it was a great time all-around. I stayed for several hours so it was quite expensive, but I had a very good time- I was concerned about if the girls would play with each other, which they did, and they did it enthusiastically without prompting. Highly recommended, and I would do it again without hesitation. Making out and sucking each others' tits. I didn't ask for pussy play so I don't know if they do it. They also seemed like really nice girls. Melty took the lead, but both were very cooperative throughout. The only thing that I like that wasn't on offer was rimming, but that was true to their profiles, so I knew that before going in.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2491272]I see lots of good reviews here about Diva girls, and I am tempted to try a duo, but a question about the 'bi duo' service that is listed on a lot of the girls' pages: do the girls play with each other? I'd like to have a duo where the girls play with each other (make out with each other, eat each others pussies, lick each others tits), and also play with me. When I have tried a duo at FKK clubs, the girls just played with me, but didn't really touch each other. So, is a 'bi duo' with Diva girls really bi, or do the girls just play with the man?

I'm confused, because in FKK I barely found any girls willing to play with each other (and even then I hear it's mechanical), but I see lots of girls that offer 'bi duo' on Diva. The number of 'bi duo' girls seems too good to be true, so I wonder if 'bi' isn't actually real. However, it also looks like all the girls with 'bi duo' as a service are also listed with an orientation of 'bi' in their profiles, while some other girls are listed as 'hetero', don't offer 'bi duo' service, but still have duo partners listed (examples: Lalibela, Sakura) - so maybe these are the girls that only play with the man in the duo, while the 'bi duo' girls also play with each other?

This is a question on Diva girls in general when the 'bi duo' service is listed (if there is any consistent standard), but like anything else it might depend on the girls. The duos I'm eyeing are with Noleta+Tiramisu, Frieda+Mikel, and Sarah+(whoever she duos with).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NF4591;2494135]Thanks to those who responded, for the advice. I saw that Melty & Pantera are back, so I opted for a duo with them: it was fantastic. They did most advertised services (only Melty welcomed fingering, Pantera did not), both have large natural tits (especially Pantera), and it was a great time all-around. I stayed for several hours so it was quite expensive, but I had a very good time- I was concerned about if the girls would play with each other, which they did, and they did it enthusiastically without prompting. Highly recommended, and I would do it again without hesitation. Making out and sucking each others' tits. I didn't ask for pussy play so I don't know if they do it. They also seemed like really nice girls. Melty took the lead, but both were very cooperative throughout. The only thing that I like that wasn't on offer was rimming, but that was true to their profiles, so I knew that before going in.[/QUOTE]Should have mentioned in my previous review. Irada offers Rim as well. I did partake in my 3rd / final session with her. Along with A+ it was my 'First time' as well so don't have a benchmark to compare. Goes into my list of Pros nonetheless. Not sure if she offers Duos.

Awesome review. Looks like we have another Diva fan in the house.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2493574]
Anyway, about the experience itself, I've met Irada thrice. Though not the first lady I've met in London, I'll start with her. I'll end with the Pros & Cons at the end so you guys can decide if you would prefer to meet her.

I don't have a premium account here, probably will some day if I actively post reviews etc. Any idea if that's how it works? Meanwhile, do post here if you guys have any questions.[/QUOTE]This was such a great review! Thank you. I've added Irada to my list of Diva girls to sample when I get a chance.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2494135]Thanks to those who responded, for the advice. I saw that Melty & Pantera are back, so I opted for a duo with them: it was fantastic. They did most advertised services (only Melty welcomed fingering, Pantera did not), both have large natural tits (especially Pantera), and it was a great time all-around. I stayed for several hours so it was quite expensive, but I had a very good time- I was concerned about if the girls would play with each other, which they did, and they did it enthusiastically without prompting. Highly recommended, and I would do it again without hesitation. Making out and sucking each others' tits. I didn't ask for pussy play so I don't know if they do it. They also seemed like really nice girls. Melty took the lead, but both were very cooperative throughout. The only thing that I like that wasn't on offer was rimming, but that was true to their profiles, so I knew that before going in.[/QUOTE]This sounds like an amazing experience! I'm jealous of you and all the other guys who have experienced Melty. I hope to do so myself whenever I can escape the USA.

Hi guys,

Met with Chelsea baker for 24 hrs last month thought I would treat myself. She is high end.

Outcall London hotel.

Services neutral, FK, owo, sex basic positions. I think she has become jaded by industry very quick. Tbh it. Was hugely underwhelming but as a bonus she sends you some pics of herself as a gift.

She sends out free photos to potential clients, DM for details.

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Hi Gents. I've recently spent time with Sarah from Diva. She's Brazilian, and it was a GREAT time. She was very passionate and did everything I liked with enthusiasm. Excellent DFK, wet BJ, passionate ball-licking and rimming, accepted fingering gladly. I had the time of my life. I don't think she does anal, but I didn't even ask since I'm not so into it anyway. Only down-side was that her boobs are fake. They're nice, but it's not my preference. Her English isn't great, but she spoke enough to get by and we used an app for the rest.

Overall, Sarah was top shelf all the way. More expensive rates than some other Diva girls, but Brazilians aren't as easy to find with Diva and she doesn't up-charge for extras that many of the other girls add charges for. I thought she was worth it, and I expect to repeat.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2499101]Hi Gents. I've recently spent time with Sarah from Diva. She's Brazilian, and it was a GREAT time. She was very passionate and did everything I liked with enthusiasm. Excellent DFK, wet BJ, passionate ball-licking and rimming, accepted fingering gladly. I had the time of my life. I don't think she does anal, but I didn't even ask since I'm not so into it anyway. Only down-side was that her boobs are fake. They're nice, but it's not my preference. Her English isn't great, but she spoke enough to get by and we used an app for the rest.

Overall, Sarah was top shelf all the way. More expensive rates than some other Diva girls, but Brazilians aren't as easy to find with Diva and she doesn't up-charge for extras that many of the other girls add charges for. I thought she was worth it, and I expect to repeat.[/QUOTE]I love it when folks on here review Diva girls! While the review page on the Diva web page has a wealth of information, I feel that the details shared in this forum are more independent and, therefore, trustworthy.

Sarah seems like a new girl and looks like a good time. And, yes, I'm not a fan of fake boobs. I fucked Noleta before she got breast implants, and, based on her new pictures they were a step backward for her. Sarah is also out of the price I'm willing to pay for a Diva girl, but, after I get a chance to fuck through the 150 and 200 level girls, I may give her a try! It's especially enticing to try a girl who will give rimming service since that seems to be rare.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2499147] Sarah is also out of the price I'm willing to pay for a Diva girl, but, after I get a chance to fuck through the 150 and 200 level girls, I may give her a try! [/QUOTE]If you become a Diva member, a few of the girls charging 200/ hour or more give a discount. Sarah's rate is reduced by 50 GBP for an hour, which makes a her a little more accessible. You can ask the agency for a membership if you've booked 5+ times, and they ask for your email address, then you can log into the members area with that email address and see the girls' discounted offers. I don't think any of the 150 GBP / hour girls offer a discount for members, but some of the higher-rate girls do.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2499147]I love it when folks on here review Diva girls! While the review page on the Diva web page has a wealth of information, I feel that the details shared in this forum are more independent and, therefore, trustworthy.

Sarah seems like a new girl and looks like a good time. And, yes, I'm not a fan of fake boobs. I fucked Noleta before she got breast implants, and, based on her new pictures they were a step backward for her. Sarah is also out of the price I'm willing to pay for a Diva girl, but, after I get a chance to fuck through the 150 and 200 level girls, I may give her a try! It's especially enticing to try a girl who will give rimming service since that seems to be rare.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to try Olina. If you like Asian girls, Olina offers some amazing girls and CIM and rimming and often anal for 150 £ all in. Anna is a wildcat. Heard others are good too.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2499251]Don't forget to try Olina. If you like Asian girls, Olina offers some amazing girls and CIM and rimming and often anal for 150 all in. Anna is a wildcat. Heard others are good too.[/QUOTE]Yep, Anna from Olina is on my list! I almost booked her the last time I was in London, but I was at full capacity (I think it was five girls over a four day period). I'm confident I'll fuck Anna some day.

Hello guys,

I have been a silent members for years (since 2008) and have been in touch with many ISG's members via PM's and did meet few in different countries.

Didn't write many reviews, as my regulars are reviewed many times. In UK, Manchester is my favorite place for Monger. Its Value for money!

Have been trying to get a job in Manchester, or in Colombia! No need to say why!

Compelled to write this review which was more over reported by a friend. It all begins with my friend hitting a girl in TG (PM me for the profile link) am sure there will be other profiles as well, as this seems to be much of a organized thing!

Moved to WhatsApp conversation and was invited for a party! She even came to pick him up at the tube station!

Then she coverys "pay £250 to have fun with her for an Hour" as he seen the girl in real, he wanted to leave!!

Was offered £150/- for two girls, 30 minutes -- delighted!

He was provided everything (BJ,69) No kissing! And couldn't fuck! Yes, two naked girls playing around, but couldn't fuck in 30 minutes (not sure about the exact time).

The dangerous part is! He was offered lines (coke! They where trying to get him high / or knocked out. To make the lines, they asked his bank card!

He was alert after the first line went in, as they offered drinks with coke mixed, and the next line in another few minutes. So he got all obvious reasons to be suspicious about!

Finally, they said time is up, you have to pay more to stay! He just packed and left, seems they where expecting him to pay more (he is supposed to be high).

The first thing he did, once he was out of that door is to call the bank and block the card, obviously.

If I go. I won't take a bank card or any valuable to such a place. And I don't mind getting high, having some fun.

Be aware of such party's or profiles in TG or any online portals, seems they are in the rise and too many people are now hooked to the online!

An interesting fact, one of my favourate is Nina a Brazilian used to be 30 minutes £ 150 and 60 minutes £250, once she has been back from her vacation this week, its now £250 and £500.

I am not the one who picks the VIP's! I just like her. I usually get along with the 30 minutes £60 -£100, or 60 minutes £120 - £150.

Diva -- my favorites are Electra, Fortune, Jackline.

I can also see many pro's have increased their rates, and more over offering online plays!! This is a dangerous turn!

Morons! Porn is free! Free! Feee! Please use your brains! Just check your online expenditure for a month. And then you will understand how many girls you could have splet with! Instead of using your hands!

What else can I say.

I am planning to put few line about what I have seen / change in Escorts, massage places and the catch-up arena!

Enjoy. Stay healthy and safe.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2499458]

Diva -- my favorites are Electra, Fortune, Jackline.

[/QUOTE]Honestly, I didn't understand much of what you said in your post, but it would be great if you posted detailed reviews of Electra, Fortune, and Jackline (in addition to other Diva girls you've tried). I've fucked Fortune so I can understand why she's one of your favorites, but it would be nice to read about your experience with her. I've seen consistently good reviews of Electra on the Diva reviews page, but I don't think I've seen many reviews of Jackline. So, your reviews of your Diva girl experiences would add useful unbiased information to this forum.

"Honestly, I didn't understand much of what you said in your post" that is real honesty!

And sure I will write the review soon.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2499661]Honestly, I didn't understand much of what you said in your post, but it would be great if you posted detailed reviews of Electra, Fortune, and Jackline (in addition to other Diva girls you've tried). I've fucked Fortune so I can understand why she's one of your favorites, but it would be nice to read about your experience with her. I've seen consistently good reviews of Electra on the Diva reviews page, but I don't think I've seen many reviews of Jackline. So, your reviews of your Diva girl experiences would add useful unbiased information to this forum.[/QUOTE]

Very good info guys.

Reading these posts are literally killing me. As each post beckons me to hop on a plane and explore the beauties of the world. Then covid readily reminds me with a kick in the nuts that I, like many, are f $ck%the and stuck in the US. Smh.

I usually go for outcall. Recently, I've started to meet them at the bar. It's better to weed out bait / switch and I find the girl to be a bit more relaxed with a quick drink first.

I'm actually thinking to mix it up a bit more now on escort nights (no SA girl scheduled). Incall right before dinner. Then grab dinner and drinks, shower, outcall to end the night.

What are you guys doing / favor? Incall or outcall.

Do you have any expectations when you incall (nice apt, etc)?

The prices that I see look more like incall prices and that's what I've assumed thus far.

Stay safe.

[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2499693]Very good info guys.

Reading these posts are literally killing me. As each post beckons me to hop on a plane and explore the beauties of the world. Then covid readily reminds me with a kick in the nuts that I, like many, are f $ck%the and stuck in the US. Smh.

I usually go for outcall. Recently, I've started to meet them at the bar. It's better to weed out bait / switch and I find the girl to be a bit more relaxed with a quick drink first.

I'm actually thinking to mix it up a bit more now on escort nights (no SA girl scheduled). Incall right before dinner. Then grab dinner and drinks, shower, outcall to end the night.

What are you guys doing / favor? Incall or outcall.

Do you have any expectations when you incall (nice apt, etc)?

The prices that I see look more like incall prices and that's what I've assumed thus far.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Normally outcall is good. But London is unique. I highly recommend incall with Diva. The key here is you are IN THE GIRLS ROOM. It's not like incall in the US where a girl gets a hotel room and sees guys one after the other. It's her room. This is VERY sexy.

They can vary a lot. Most are tidy but a bit run down and small in nice enough parts of town. Diciest was Fortunes original place. A bit dumpy. Meltys place was beautiful. Who the fuck doesn't like being in Meltys room and seeing her red fuck me heels in her closet and asking her to put them on. Kendall and Noleta were in the same building last time I was there. Super nice with bar and Starbucks on the lower courtyard area. (And walkable from Paddington).

Anyhow point is it can vary but it's always awesome. Couldn't pay me to do outcall in London. Love e incall just too much. My recommended plan is:

Girl at 10 am.

Lunch.

Girl at 3 PM.

Dinner.

Girl at 8 pm.

I've done this several times and can't recommend it highly enough. A wise man once said "anything worth doing is worth overdoing!" LOL.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2499804]

Girl at 10 am.

Lunch.

Girl at 3 PM.

Dinner.

Girl at 8 pm.

[/QUOTE]As usual, I agree with [B]Steve 9696[/B]. I do have a question. I know from empiracal mongering experience that I can fuck a girl around lunch time (2 pops) and fuck another girls at around dinner time (2 pops). All of this without any performance enhancing pills.

I've never fucked three girls in the same day as you described, but I think I could do it with the right pill.

So, what's your process here? Is all of this using pills? I think we're around the same age so I really value your wisdom here.

Also, do you have a maximum number of girls in one day? I hope to go to an FKK one day, and I think I can probably fuck 5 girls in a 4-6 hour time frame with pill assistance. That's one pop per girl. But, I don't think I can do more than that.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2499965]As usual, I agree with [B]Steve 9696[/B]. I do have a question. I know from empiracal mongering experience that I can fuck a girl around lunch time (2 pops) and fuck another girls at around dinner time (2 pops). All of this without any performance enhancing pills.

I've never fucked three girls in the same day as you described, but I think I could do it with the right pill.

So, what's your process here? Is all of this using pills? I think we're around the same age so I really value your wisdom here.

Also, do you have a maximum number of girls in one day? I hope to go to an FKK one day, and I think I can probably fuck 5 girls in a 4-6 hour time frame with pill assistance. That's one pop per girl. But, I don't think I can do more than that.[/QUOTE]Yeah these days I need a little help. I use the generic viagra I got from Lemonaid. They have a great online service with video chat with real doctor. Discrete. Easy. Plus it comes in little 20 MG pills so you can tweak dosage. 50 and 100 are standard viagra dosage. I usually do 40 but might add a booster of another 20 for late night. This works really well.

With viagra you get super hard which makes it feel all that much better. And I never get hard except when excited so it's not like you are a walking boner. Only thing is since it lets you fuck more you may be hard to cum with later girls. But most pros are pretty magical and get it done.

The three-a-day London is great. I might do two pops with first girl of the week. Usually one thereafter. In FKK two years ago I managed 5 girls over 8 hours but I am more a three a day guy now. Slacker! LOL.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2500009]50 and 100 are standard viagra dosage. I usually do 40 but might add a booster of another 20 for late night. This works really well.[/QUOTE]Awesome, thanks! I think with Viagra, not cumming for a few days beforehand, and access to gorgeous ladies (for example, Melty, Fortune, Noleta, etc.), I can fuck 4 girls in a day. I think this is especially true since I've also been improving my nutrition and fitness during the pandemic. I look forward to testing this theory out some day, but I think it would basically involve fucking a girl after breakfast, a late lunch, dinner, and also right before going to sleep.

However, I've been thinking about the long game. So, I'm now in my late 40's, and I want to fuck beautiful women well into my 70's (and maybe 80's). This may be a question for the seasoned mongers among us, but I wonder how this plays out? Assuming access to something like viagra and "fucking" meaning one pop, is it:

* 40's: Can fuck 4 girls in one day.

* 50's: Can fuck 3 girls in one day.

* 60's: Can fuck 2 girls in one day.

* 70's: Can fuck 1 girl in one day.

* 80's: Can fuck half a girl in one day?

Maybe I can trust the magic of the pros to make age a non-issue letting me still fuck 4 girls in one day if they are stunners!

[QUOTE=Atanion;2499965]As usual, I agree with [B]Steve 9696[/B].
Also, do you have a maximum number of girls in one day? I hope to go to an FKK one day, and I think I can probably fuck 5 girls in a 4-6 hour time frame. [/QUOTE]I also agree Diva Incall is well worth doing.

I can almost always do 2 pops a day. Getting a 3rd pop only happens for me about 25% of the time.

However there is no maximum number of girls. Take as many as you want, as many as you can afford. For me the time to monger is limited, and I will maximize that time.

The last time I was in London for a day I booked 4 girls. The time before that I booked 5 girls. Each time I only popped with three of them. For the ones I didn't pop with. I got to spend an hour with a hot naked girl. I was fucking her, fingering her, sucking on her tits, squeezing her ass, licking her face, her armpits, her stomach. What better way to spend some time.

Diva makes it easy because you can schedule them out. Sex for an hour, then spend an hour walking from one girls apartment to the next, then sex for another hour. It is pretty much a perfect day.

As for FKK I only once took 5 girls on the same day. I am very picky, and once I have a hot girl I want a hotter girl for the next session. I also have a specific type. She should be young, beautiful, not have any children, not have any silicone, be spinner thin with firm perky small tits, firm flat stomach, no tattoos and no piercings. Most nights I only found 1 or 2 girls that met this criteria. Perhaps there were other girls there, but I did not find them, or they were in rooms with other guys, or not available when I was available.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2500123]I also agree Diva Incall is well worth doing.

.... She should be young, beautiful, not have any children, not have any silicone, be spinner thin with firm perky small tits, firm flat stomach, no tattoos and no piercings. Most nights I only found 1 or 2 girls that met this criteria. Perhaps there were other girls there, but I did not find them, or they were in rooms with other guys, or not available when I was available....

MM.[/QUOTE]Man that's exactly my type as well. Sounds like Irada to me. I think she mentioned she's 24, don't recall. Only gripe I have is that I wish I'd met her sooner, when she was younger and just moved to London maybe. Sigh!

Anyway, the other good experience I had was Roberta at Babylon. She's 22. Overall the experience was good even though she's got a few Tattoos which really isn't my thing. And after the experience, when I was back to my senses and my the* wasn't doing the thinking, realized Babylon is slightly more expensive than some of the other agencies. Great service but the rates could be 50-100 off compared to the others. Can add up quickly if you are someone who indulges often. And most of them have a similar a line-up anyways.

Shall post the Roberta review shortly. I'd rate her 7.5-8/10.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2500301]Man that's exactly my type as well. [/QUOTE]Typically I am trying to replicate the experience I had when I was at University. My preference is for girls age 18 - 22.

MM.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2500097]Awesome, thanks! I think with Viagra, not cumming for a few days beforehand, and access to gorgeous ladies (for example, Melty, Fortune, Noleta, etc.), I can fuck 4 girls in a day. I think this is especially true since I've also been improving my nutrition and fitness during the pandemic. I look forward to testing this theory out some day, but I think it would basically involve fucking a girl after breakfast, a late lunch, dinner, and also right before going to sleep.

However, I've been thinking about the long game. So, I'm now in my late 40's, and I want to fuck beautiful women well into my 70's (and maybe 80's). This may be a question for the seasoned mongers among us, but I wonder how this plays out? Assuming access to something like viagra and "fucking" meaning one pop, is it:

* 40's: Can fuck 4 girls in one day.

* 50's: Can fuck 3 girls in one day.

* 60's: Can fuck 2 girls in one day.

* 70's: Can fuck 1 girl in one day.

* 80's: Can fuck half a girl in one day?

Maybe I can trust the magic of the pros to make age a non-issue letting me still fuck 4 girls in one day if they are stunners![/QUOTE]Can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of feel sorry for you young guns. Five girls in one day sounds great as a boast -- but it also means no satisfaction. Finish one, on to the next. It's chasing a feeling you can't seem to reach -- the blissful feeling of not having to do this again for a long, long while.

I don't know what I'm physically capable of, with the right cocktail brew of pharmaceuticals and the right lineup. But in my mid-60's I find a satisfaction that I wish I could have felt in my twenties. It would have saved a lot of time and expense, and probably increased my quality of life. One amazing encounter, every two or three days, is all this old soul needs to completely satisfy. Perhaps this mirrors my overall approach to life -- in my 20's and 30's I was eager to accumulate, never satisfied, more money, more control, more of everything. In my 40's I freaked out that I wasn't keeping up with my early rate of growth, and my personal life wasn't giving me satisfaction so I turned on the juice even more. If I had been able early on to just savor what I was doing at the moment, like some of those Buddhist monks, actually taste the food as it's going into your mouth, don't just shovel it all in and empty your plate and order seconds.

Keep up your pace if you wish, and push for more if you must, but be aware that in many ways the aging body and the experienced mind eventually gives you a very different perspective on life. Sometimes it makes you want to re-evaluate your past actions, wish you'd done things differently; hopefully it just gives you solace and comfort as you reach a stage where there's not a whole lot you have to prove to yourself or anybody else.

Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.

[QUOTE=Rako3;2500565]Can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of feel sorry for you young guns. Five girls in one day sounds great as a boast -- but it also means no satisfaction. Finish one, on to the next. It's chasing a feeling you can't seem to reach -- the blissful feeling of not having to do this again for a long, long while.

I don't know what I'm physically capable of, with the right cocktail brew of pharmaceuticals and the right lineup. But in my mid-60's I find a satisfaction that I wish I could have felt in my twenties. It would have saved a lot of time and expense, and probably increased my quality of life. One amazing encounter, every two or three days, is all this old soul needs to completely satisfy. Perhaps this mirrors my overall approach to life -- in my 20's and 30's I was eager to accumulate, never satisfied, more money, more control, more of everything. In my 40's I freaked out that I wasn't keeping up with my early rate of growth, and my personal life wasn't giving me satisfaction so I turned on the juice even more. If I had been able early on to just savor what I was doing at the moment, like some of those Buddhist monks, actually taste the food as it's going into your mouth, don't just shovel it all in and empty your plate and order seconds.

Keep up your pace if you wish, and push for more if you must, but be aware that in many ways the aging body and the experienced mind eventually gives you a very different perspective on life. Sometimes it makes you want to re-evaluate your past actions, wish you'd done things differently; hopefully it just gives you solace and comfort as you reach a stage where there's not a whole lot you have to prove to yourself or anybody else.

Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.[/QUOTE]I think you are right about most of this. But doing 5 girls isn't just boastful — it can be a ton of fun. Really FKK is the only way to do this. And FKK is about so much more than fucking. It's an experience. An awesome girl buffet. Completely worth overdoing.

That said I get your overall point. Sex with the right girl can be completely satisfying. Just recently (see my post in the Seeking Arrangements thread) my weekend with Alexa totally proved this. Yes we had solid sex Friday. But Saturday was beyond all expectations. Sex at 5. Dinner. 2 plus bottles of wine. Walk on the beach. Smoke cigars. Sex on the balcony at midnight.

On Sunday morning with a full day still ahead I thought "I am fully and completely satisfied — I could fly home right now totally happy. " That is true date satisfaction.

[QUOTE=Rako3;2500565]
Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.[/QUOTE]Rako, peace, I am happy for you that you are satisfied having 1 girl every three days.

We are not all satisfied the same way. Some of us enjoy having multiple girls on a day, and that doesn't mean we don't savor and cherish every minute of the experience we are with those girls.

Also in your note it is implied that we have the choice to participate every 3 days and that is simply not the case. In the month of February I could only participate 1 day. In the month of January I could only participate 2 days. In the months of March until today I couldn't participate any days. Instead I choose to maximize the experiences I could have so that I am still savoring them now.

I was also making the point that if you see a girl that you really like / want, she has good reviews and seems like she could be a fantasy girl for you. Go and book her no matter how many others you have already booked, because if it will a year or longer before you return London, there is a good chance she will no longer be working and you missed your opportunity to be with her. I can think of a few girls I didn't sample and they got away, I can also think of few girls I sampled even though I was already spent, and I am really happy I had that time with them.

MM.

[QUOTE=Rako3;2500565]...............Four or five girls in a day. Sure glad I'm not doing that.[/QUOTE]I am in my sixties too but aware that my twenties self was much different from my present self. I am satisfied with the sex I'm having now but would have been totally unhappy with that quantity back in my 20's.

I try to have both meaningful sexual experiences with the civilians in my life and multiple fuckfests with the hottest girls I can get to. I don't think one is better than the other. But, I enjoy aspects of both.

The girls in my civilian life take a lot of time and effort to bag. So, when we get to fucking, the experience is emotional and mental as well as physical.

The slim sexy barely-out-of-their-teens girls that I find on sites like Diva are purely for sexual release. Yes, I often have interesting chats with them between pops while I'm waiting for my refactory period to subside. But, the goal is always to feel myself exploding in the sexiest girls I can find after an amazing sexual experience. So, yes, a great day in London would be fucking girls throughout the day, perhaps a threesome here and there, and the satisfaction of traveling around London between orgasms.

Maybe when I get into my 60's, I'll find fucking multiple stunning girls less compelling and be satisfied with just meaningful sex with one or two ladies. However, while I can, I will do everything I can to find and tap the best pussy around the world.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2500977]I try to have both meaningful sexual experiences with the civilians in my life and multiple fuckfests with the hottest girls I can get to. I don't think one is better than the other. But, I enjoy aspects of both.

The girls in my civilian life take a lot of time and effort to bag. So, when we get to fucking, the experience is emotional and mental as well as physical.

The slim sexy barely-out-of-their-teens girls that I find on sites like Diva are purely for sexual release. Yes, I often have interesting chats with them between pops while I'm waiting for my refactory period to subside. But, the goal is always to feel myself exploding in the sexiest girls I can find after an amazing sexual experience. So, yes, a great day in London would be fucking girls throughout the day, perhaps a threesome here and there, and the satisfaction of traveling around London between orgasms.

Maybe when I get into my 60's, I'll find fucking multiple stunning girls less compelling and be satisfied with just meaningful sex with one or two ladies. However, while I can, I will do everything I can to find and tap the best pussy around the world.[/QUOTE]There's nothing wrong with following your desires, and fulfilling those urges as they arise.

I merely stated that I'm glad it doesn't take five girls a day for me to find satisfaction. Or perhaps leave me winded, wishing I had enough breath and fluids for a sixth.

And I do believe you can get in a groove where there may be a physical refractory period but not a mental one, that as soon as one conquest is finished you're already thinking about the next. And you might want to be careful about that.

Put it in a different context. Let's say you go to a fine restaurant, have a lavish meal, and as soon as you leave you start thinking about another restaurant. Or you finish a whole box of cookies, and feel compelled to crack open another, and another. It's expensive, it's not always good for your health, and again, you're somehow not capturing the reason for the eating in the first place -- to feel comfortably sated. Perhaps it's a substitution for something else -- food in place of love, food to deal with anxiety, food to fill boredom. But if you don't savor it, if it doesn't fulfill you.

But sure, if you only get so many opportunities to binge on a whole all-you-can-eat smorgasbord, knock yourself out and make some memories. I just wouldn't do it on a regular basis. And I'm glad I don't need to these days. It makes life easier.

I think you guys have hit right on it and the food analogy is a good one. If I can have a nice meal every week I may well be perfectly satisfied. But if my opportunity to dine well comes only every other month and there is a gorgeous buffet spread before me I am going to gorge myself at that buffet till I can eat no more.

And the girl-buffet in London and FKK and Brazil and Thailand etc. is like a mile long buffet of filet mignon, sushi, and cake to the hungry traveler. Give me a bottle of wine and damage will be done!

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2500461]Typically I am trying to replicate the experience I had when I was at University. My preference is for girls age 18 - 22.

MM.[/QUOTE]18-22, slim, perky, no tattoos. Hallelujah!

Those are definitely the best sessions / nights.

Tough to find in the US though. Unfortunate.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2501150]I think the food analogy is a good one. [/QUOTE]I have read the food analogy multiple times and I don't get, it doesn't seem to apply for me.

I don't consume pleasure with girls like food. They are both physical experiences, but they are experienced in totally different ways.

I never have the desire to sit and eat 3 dinners. I suppose it is possible to force myself to consume 2 dinners or 3 dinners worth of food. I would not find that pleasurable. Assuming I manage to force feed myself 3 dinners worth of food, I would be feeling ill after that. I am confident if a person came by and put a forth delicious dinner on the table, I would find it revolting and may get physically sick at the thought of eating it.

In contrast I can easily enjoy 3 girls, either at the same time, or one after another. I would find the more girls the more pleasure in the experience. I don't have to force myself to be with three girls, but I willingly seek out the experience. After enjoying three girls I don't feel ill, but in fact elated and overjoyed at the experience. I am frequently in a haze of happiness that last for 24 - 48 hours after the experience. Then suppose I am sitting in a club or just on the street corner and another hot young spinner presents herself and starts flirting with me. Well I want her also, and I would be thrilled to get forth experience in.

While I am selective and have high standards of what I am seeking as long as the girls can meet my fantasy criteria, I would gladly take one after another after another. I suppose there is some physical limit based on time and sleep, but I have always run out of girls before reaching that limit.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2501982]I am frequently in a haze of happiness that last for 24 - 48 hours after the experience.

MM.[/QUOTE]That's all I'm talking about. Finding that haze of happiness. Just saying if you're the kind of person who never feels sated after three, four, five orgasms in a day, you may be chasing an unattainable goal with the methods at your disposal.

Sure, it's possible that after a great sexual experience I see a cutie and start to think hmm, maybe. Go again? But that's a far cry from the power-user who goes from girl to girl to girl seeking. What? What does the fifth offer that the first four didn't? And at what point do you say y'know, I may have a problem here.

I've read about a not uncommon Tinder mindset, you haven't even left a girl's apartment, you're laying on the bed with her, swiping right looking for the next encounter. And that just doesn't sound real good to me.

Yes, we're talking extremes. I agree if you get to visit an FKK once a year, knock yourself out. On the other side, I don't say have sex once a year and really savor it. Happiness lies somewhere in the middle.

And I'm personally glad it doesn't take me five girls in a five hour period to feel sated.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2501982]I have read the food analogy multiple times and I don't get, it doesn't seem to apply for me.

I don't consume pleasure with girls like food. They are both physical experiences, but they are experienced in totally different ways.

.............[/QUOTE]I agree. My desire for food has never varied. Three meals a day at age 20 and three meals a day 46 years later. However I remember when I was 20 years old I used to go to my girlfriend's place have sex with her and when I got home an hour later I would masturbate. There were days back then when I could have sex eight times a day. The desire was greater then than now.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2502123]I agree. My desire for food has never varied. Three meals a day at age 20 and three meals a day 46 years later. However I remember when I was 20 years old I used to go to my girlfriend's place have sex with her and when I got home an hour later I would masturbate. There were days back then when I could have sex eight times a day. The desire was greater then than now.[/QUOTE]I think that's where I wanted this conversation to go, [B]Turgid[/B]. How does mongering change as you go towards your 60's? I'm about 20 years behind you, and I'd like to get a sense of the road ahead.

For example, if you went to an FKK club in Germany with stunning options, how many would you fuck? I'm in my 40's, and I would try to go for several. However, in your 60's, is it just one?

Also, do orgasms change in your 60's? I'm finding that I can last longer in bed, and my orgasms last longer, too.

Any other thoughts you can share about mongering in your 60's would be greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=Atanion;2503028]I think that's where I wanted this conversation to go, [B]Turgid[/B]. How does mongering change as you go towards your 60's? I'm about 20 years behind you, and I'd like to get a sense of the road ahead.

For example, if you went to an FKK club in Germany with stunning options, how many would you fuck? I'm in my 40's, and I would try to go for several. However, in your 60's, is it just one?

Also, do orgasms change in your 60's? I'm finding that I can last longer in bed, and my orgasms last longer, too.

Any other thoughts you can share about mongering in your 60's would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]I am 60+, and I have 0 health issue, can have 3 times sex per day without any viagra. But I fucked 1000+ girls in my life and in the last years I started to get bored, pussy remains pussy. Before the age of 45 I never paid for a woman, after that for commodity reasons I mongered a lot but it is no more satisfying for me or I need to really find a top young natural beauty. In the last 3 years fortunately I met no pro girls and had great time. After so many sex, sex is always the same thing now I enjoy my free time by doing more sport, buying and restoring some classic cars. My strong blocking point for the moment is really to pay for sex, to pay for fake, to pay for illusion.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2503074]I am 60+, and I have 0 health issue, can have 3 times sex per day without any viagra. But I fucked 1000+ girls in my life and in the last years I started to get bored, pussy remains pussy. Before the age of 45 I never paid for a woman, after that for commodity reasons I mongered a lot but it is no more satisfying for me or I need to really find a top young natural beauty. In the last 3 years fortunately I met no pro girls and had great time. After so many sex, sex is always the same thing now I enjoy my free time by doing more sport, buying and restoring some classic cars. My strong blocking point for the moment is really to pay for sex, to pay for fake, to pay for illusion.[/QUOTE]That's good news, [B]ExpatLover[/B]! This gives me hope that the next 20 years of mongering can be fruitful. If I can cum 3 times per day without viagra in my 60's like you do, then I can work with that. Whether that's 3 time with the same girl or 3 different girls, then I can find satisfaction in that. Given that I have access to viagra today, I assume that I will have viagra when I'm in my 60's so that's an option to take the experience up a notch or two when needed.

Now, my one remaining concern is how the women will react to me. I'm in my 40's, but I've been told that I look like I'm in my 30's. I hope to look good in my 60's and that the girls don't mind someone the age of their grandfathers slam-fucking them. I would guess that they won't care as long as my money is in order!

I also take your point that, after fucking so many girls, sex offers little new adventure. That seems to have freed your mind to explore other interests and things that are new and exciting to me. For me, a fresh, young, and tight spinner with a tight body and willingness to please will be new and exciting for many years to come. I'll save the higher pursuits for when I'm closer to 70!

[QUOTE=Atanion;2503028]I think that's where I wanted this conversation to go, [B]Turgid[/B]. How does mongering change as you go towards your 60's? I'm about 20 years behind you, and I'd like to get a sense of the road ahead.

For example, if you went to an FKK club in Germany with stunning options, how many would you fuck? I'm in my 40's, and I would try to go for several. However, in your 60's, is it just one?

Also, do orgasms change in your 60's? I'm finding that I can last longer in bed, and my orgasms last longer, too.

Any other thoughts you can share about mongering in your 60's would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]When I was in my 30's and 40's I used to dread the prospect of being in my 60's which I am now. However I believe that sex in different periods of ones life would not be the same for every person. For example, when I was in my forties I was not as wealthy as I am now and my sexual activity was accordingly restricted. I had one or two non pros and visited working girls sparingly. I had less variety of sexual partners than I do now. In those days and before sex was much more exciting for me than it is now and accordingly I would say generally more enjoyable. That does not mean to say that the orgasm was more intense then, it was not, it was about the same and also I generally bang girls of about the same quality now as I did back then so it was equal in that respect also. What was different was the mindset. Back then I was much more hyped up before going to have sex than I am now. Perhaps what can bring me back to the mentality I had back then would be to have longer periods between sessions like a week or so. That should get the adrenalin flowing stronger before the next encounter.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2503129]That's good news, [B]ExpatLover[/B]! This gives me hope that the next 20 years of mongering can be fruitful. If I can cum 3 times per day without viagra in my 60's like you do, then I can work with that. Whether that's 3 time with the same girl or 3 different girls, then I can find satisfaction in that. Given that I have access to viagra today, I assume that I will have viagra when I'm in my 60's so that's an option to take the experience up a notch or two when needed.

Now, my one remaining concern is how the women will react to me. I'm in my 40's, but I've been told that I look like I'm in my 30's. I hope to look good in my 60's and that the girls don't mind someone the age of their grandfathers slam-fucking them. I would guess that they won't care as long as my money is in order!

I also take your point that, after fucking so many girls, sex offers little new adventure. That seems to have freed your mind to explore other interests and things that are new and exciting to me. For me, a fresh, young, and tight spinner with a tight body and willingness to please will be new and exciting for many years to come. I'll save the higher pursuits for when I'm closer to 70![/QUOTE]For the girls most important point you pay them, second you are clean which means not smelling, all the rest they don t care they are not willing to marry you. Luckily I am 181, athletic shape 82 kilos, white christian, no smoking and never any girl refused to go with me in the room, sometimes the escorts ask you to send a picture of you before accepting to meet you, also I never got a no. You also have girls who will only go with man +40 to keep the young guy for the private life, everything is possible.

For those who have been to Germany FKKs, Amsterdam, Zurich Clubs, Canada. Montreal and Toronto and Vienna Clubs. How would you rank these? Where does it fit into Australia? Spain?

The underlying theme seems to be. Granted, this is probably from personal taste.

Zurich > Vienna > London > Toronto / Montreal > Germany FKKs > Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2504834]For those who have been to Germany FKKs, Amsterdam, Zurich Clubs, Canada. Montreal and Toronto and Vienna Clubs. How would you rank these? Where does it fit into Australia? Spain?

The underlying theme seems to be. Granted, this is probably from personal taste.

Zurich > Vienna > London > Toronto / Montreal > Germany FKKs > Amsterdam.[/QUOTE]Well Australia sucks donkey dong. Let's say that up front. Of the others I have least experience in Canada. My personal order goes like this (with rationale for placement).

Brazil (beautiful passionate girls. Nightclub format).

London (amazing incall with Romanians; not Hardened like FKK girls).

German FKK (value And club experience).

Thailand (off the hook girl bonanza).

Moscow (fun stripclub format but with fucking).

Tokyo (outcall at love hotel).

Zurich (like Germany but more expensive).

China (used to be awesome. Tough now).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2504876]Well Australia sucks donkey dong. Let's say that up front. Of the others I have least experience in Canada. My personal order goes like this (with rationale for placement).

Brazil (beautiful passionate girls. Nightclub format).

London (amazing incall with Romanians; not Hardened like FKK girls).

German FKK (value And club experience).

Thailand (off the hook girl bonanza).

Moscow (fun stripclub format but with fucking).

Tokyo (outcall at love hotel).

Zurich (like Germany but more expensive).

China (used to be awesome. Tough now).[/QUOTE]Very interesting, thanks for the info.

What do you make of Spain. Barcelona and Madrid? Vienna?

I will add Colombia after Brazil, I never been to Brazil but had only heard good things as if today! Been to Colombia and I live in London, hence I rank Colombia Above London.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2504876]Well Australia sucks donkey dong. Let's say that up front. Of the others I have least experience in Canada. My personal order goes like this (with rationale for placement).

Brazil (beautiful passionate girls. Nightclub format).

London (amazing incall with Romanians; not Hardened like FKK girls).

German FKK (value And club experience).

Thailand (off the hook girl bonanza).

Moscow (fun stripclub format but with fucking).

Tokyo (outcall at love hotel).

Zurich (like Germany but more expensive).

China (used to be awesome. Tough now).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2504834]For those who have been to Germany FKKs, Amsterdam, Zurich Clubs, Canada. Montreal and Toronto and Vienna Clubs. How would you rank these? Where does it fit into Australia? Spain?

The underlying theme seems to be. Granted, this is probably from personal taste.

Zurich > Vienna > London > Toronto / Montreal > Germany FKKs > Amsterdam.[/QUOTE]My personal ranking is as follows, based on the top places I have been to monger (list not exhaustive):

1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).

2. German FKKs.

3. Spain.

4. Thailand.

4. Zurich (expensive).

5. Vienna.

6. Costa Rica.

6. Colombia.

7. Dubai (expensive).

8, Panama.

9. Argentina.

10. Amsterdam.

11. The Philippines.

12. Tijuana.

Now, a few clarifying notes about this listing. First, if you like Asian girls (I'm not a big fan), then Thailand is number 1, and The Philippines is much, much higher. Probably even number two if Asian girls are you thing. Second, I would have Zurich in the number 3 spot if it wasn't so expensive. The other thing is the reason why I have Tijuana dead last is that, compared to the other destinations noted, Tijuana simply just isn't a very interesting place to go to. Yeah, there are a few things to see, but in my opinion it's not a world-class mongering destination on the order of the more highly-ranked places. Otherwise, there are some really hot Mexicanas who know how to suck and fuck.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2505098]My personal ranking is as follows, based on the top places I have been to monger (list not exhaustive):

1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).

2. German FKKs...[/QUOTE]Geez! What happened? Let me do that list over again with the correct numbering.

1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).

2. Germany (FKKs).

3. Spain.

4. Thailand.

5. Switzerland (Expensive).

6. Austria.

7. Costa Rica.

8. Colombia.

9. Dubai (Expensive).

10. Panama.

11. Argentina.

12. Amsterdam.

13. The Philippines.

14. Mexico (Tijuana).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2505231]Geez! What happened? Let me do that list over again with the correct numbering.

1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).

2. Germany (FKKs).

3. Spain.

4. Thailand.

5. Switzerland (Expensive).

6. Austria.

7. Costa Rica.

8. Colombia.

9. Dubai (Expensive).

10. Panama.

11. Argentina.

12. Amsterdam.

13. The Philippines.

14. Mexico (Tijuana).[/QUOTE]My rankings for some of the places would be different but can understand your grading with the exception that I would definitely rate Colombia over Costa Rica for mongering. In terms of the looks of the ladies perhaps they're similar but regarding the price and sheer quantity Colombia is overwhelmingly my preference.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2505403]My rankings for some of the places would be different but can understand your grading with the exception that I would definitely rate Colombia over Costa Rica for mongering. In terms of the looks of the ladies perhaps they're similar but regarding the price and sheer quantity Colombia is overwhelmingly my preference.[/QUOTE]Well, first of all, Costa Rica is virtually nothing but Colombianas to begin with. And second, I did think hard about which was better, and I went with Costa Rica just because I personally had better overall "sexual moments" there, with virtually all of them being with Colombian women. Costa Rica is where I discovered the Colombiana. Of course, that was a long time ago. Things have changed enough that if I were to visit each country again, I just might put Colombia ahead. But until then, I must go with what I experienced directly.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2505231]Geez! What happened? Let me do that list over again with the correct numbering.

1. Brazil (Rio and Sao Paulo).

2. Germany (FKKs).

3. Spain.

4. Thailand.

5. Switzerland (Expensive).

6. Austria.

7. Costa Rica.

8. Colombia.

9. Dubai (Expensive).

10. Panama.

11. Argentina.

12. Amsterdam.

13. The Philippines.

14. Mexico (Tijuana).[/QUOTE]Hey my friend! And you had the temerity to call me a lucky ba*tard for having options in Spain at the moment! I thought I'd mongered far and wide yet this was only your list of best. Maybe you mongered elsewhere that did not make this impressive list. I was somewhat staggered to see Argentina not even make the top 10. Interested to know why you think a country blessed with so many stunning girls, and close to your number one choice, comes so low? Ditto Panama.
For good measure, my list would be:

1. Germany (FKKs).

2. Spain. Love the CDS and Madrid.

3. Manchester in the UK but London wouldn't make my top 50 - I hate bait and switch.

4. Cambodia.

5. Switzerland. Loved Globe.

6. Portugal. Great pick ups in bar scene in Vilamoura.

7. Dubai. Not sure where you went but I found New York very reasonably priced and Hyatt great but as you say expensive.

8. Thailand.

9. Singapore.

10. Australia. Well - Sydney.

I'm gutted not to have ever been to S America and don't doubt for a moment it would cause a re-write of my list.

Enjoy the reminiscing!

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2505566]Hey my friend! And you had the temerity to call me a lucky ba*tard for having options in Spain at the moment! I thought I'd mongered far and wide yet this was only your list of best. Maybe you mongered elsewhere that did not make this impressive list. I was somewhat staggered to see Argentina not even make the top 10. Interested to know why you think a country blessed with so many stunning girls, and close to your number one choice, comes so low? Ditto Panama.[/QUOTE]Here are a few more, in alphabetical order, that I did not include or attempt to rank. Of these, I would love to try Morocco again! I really liked what I saw, and for a Muslim country the place was quite liberal (free flowing alcohol and attractive, "forward" prostitutes interested in making your acquaintance).

1. Curacao.

2. Czech Republic.

3. Morocco.

4. Paraguay.

5. Poland.

My first trips to Argentina and Panama were really good. Enough to get me to go back. But the follow-up trips just weren't as exciting. In Argentina, a lot of clubs have closed, and the authorities just don't seem as tolerant anymore. The club scene in Panama was always relatively small, but still vibrant. But I don't know. On subsequent trips, things just seemed a little stale and too "low energy" for me. The Veneto Hotel where I first stayed started to go into decline. I have not been back to either in some time. What I like to do now is go back to my favorites while every now and then striking out to go to some other place where I have not been.

Man, I've been to damn near all of the top mongering destinations! No DR yet. Indonesia is huge, but I have not been. We shall see! As for Dubai, first as with Switzerland too (and even more so), when I said "expensive", I meant kind of as in everything, not just the girls. And when it came to the girls, some were definitely more expensive than others. It depended on the club and / or nationality of the girl. The Premiere Nightclub at the Hyatt Regency was outstanding with lots of top shelf Russian and FSU girls. Another Dubai club with pretty, top shelf, expensive Ruskie pussy is Cavalli. I wanted to go to the world-renowned Rattlesnake, but it had closed for good before my trip! Win some, lose some. As long as I'm mostly winning, I'm all good!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2505579]The Premiere Nightclub at the Hyatt Regency was outstanding with lots of top shelf Russian and FSU girls. Another Dubai club with pretty, top shelf, expensive Ruskie pussy is Cavalli. I wanted to go to the world-renowned Rattlesnake, but it had closed for good before my trip! Win some, lose some. As long as I'm mostly winning, I'm all good![/QUOTE]Could you talk about the high end hotel bars and night clubs? Kinda interested what that whole experience looks like. Girls, the club itself, the whole experience, etc.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2505651]Could you talk about the high end hotel bars and night clubs? Kinda interested what that whole experience looks like. Girls, the club itself, the whole experience, etc.[/QUOTE]I've said enough here. This is the London thread. You need to RTFF in the relevant threads.

Hello brethren!

Can I please request to get some leads PM'ed to me? I am looking for an independent escort / model (not the ones with agencies please, thanks). Even contacts of girls looking for sugardaddy are welcome. I live in Zone 1. Budget under 500 quid for short time. Cheers.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2505579]...........No DR yet. Indonesia is huge, but I have not been............[/QUOTE]I've been to both of which I've reported. DR is worth a visit, different vibe from other Latino countries and non-pros are more readily available. I visited Indonesia once so cannot grade overall but it was one of my best mongering adventures.

Diva Jackline.

I have visited here in the past, and this will be my third visit. Due to time constraints I have to book a 30 minutes session.

She is a pleasant girl, as you walk in, her smile and the way she deals with you will make you comfortable.

And make you feel as if you are entering into our own house or a GF's house.

She is happy with French kissing, but she has Botox!! Which I don't really like, but her attitude pays off!

So you can't really go and bite it, she will remind you in advance not to bite her lips!!

69 is fine, initially a bit cold but over time she responds. And she enjoys, if you miss the spots, she will guide you!!

Overall its more of a GF experience.

My regular girls are Electra, Fortune, Jackline, however I plan to try other, seems there are new birds.

Its a risk, as there is no reviews and we never know their attitude!!

I usually book by setting the expectations like DFK & 69 as a standard service.

Happy mongering.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2507589]Diva Jackline.

I have visited here in the past, and this will be my third visit. Due to time constraints I have to book a 30 minutes session.

She is a pleasant girl, as you walk in, her smile and the way she deals with you will make you comfortable.

And make you feel as if you are entering into our own house or a GF's house.

She is happy with French kissing, but she has Botox!! Which I don't really like, but her attitude pays off!

So you can't really go and bite it, she will remind you in advance not to bite her lips!!

69 is fine, initially a bit cold but over time she responds. And she enjoys, if you miss the spots, she will guide you!!

Overall its more of a GF experience.

My regular girls are Electra, Fortune, Jackline, however I plan to try other, seems there are new birds.

Its a risk, as there is no reviews and we never know their attitude!!

I usually book by setting the expectations like DFK & 69 as a standard service.

Happy mongering.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Based on the girls you have seen you should book Noleta. I haven't seen her new tits -old ones were great no need to change but her looks attitude and skills are great. I'the say a shade less pretty and vivacious than Fortune (really who isn't! Fortune is a full on ten in my book and noleta a 9 ) but her skills are waaaaay better. Great kisser too. And what a sweetheart. High recommend.

Here is my review from Oct 2019 written right after seeing her:
Wow. Wow. Wow. What a girl! To start with, she is super charming and welcoming. Just a sweet, sweet spirit that u cant help but notice and she puts u completely at ease. Her body and face are as shown and as described by others -- AMAZING. Slim but not painfully skinny. Just gorgeous. Amazing skills and very accommodating in bed. Make sure to tell her how u like it. The BJ started off one way but when I told her how I like it -- WOW f*cking fireworks. Top 5 BJ worldwide and I've been everywhere. Sweet girl. Amazing GFE. You must see her!

I saw notela's reviews, I have is 50/50 thoughts about her, as for me enhanced / Botox are all turn offs!!

Off course, Jackline have Botox, but for the first visit I wasn't aware of it, as the profile says natural.

And her welcoming nature made me feel better, its my experience most of the Botox girls are a bit concerned with a passionate kissing. Biting lips!! I love it. Not in a manner that hurts.

As I said, I am going to give a try with other girls than safe bets!

Hope all has planned something for the X'mas!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2507743]Based on the girls you have seen you should book Noleta. I haven't seen her new tits -old ones were great no need to change but her looks attitude and skills are great. I'the say a shade less pretty and vivacious than Fortune (really who isn't! Fortune is a full on ten in my book and noleta a 9 ) but her skills are waaaaay better. Great kisser too. And what a sweetheart. High recommend.

Here is my review from Oct 2019 written right after seeing her:
Wow. Wow. Wow. What a girl! To start with, she is super charming and welcoming. Just a sweet, sweet spirit that u cant help but notice and she puts u completely at ease. Her body and face are as shown and as described by others -- AMAZING. Slim but not painfully skinny. Just gorgeous. Amazing skills and very accommodating in bed. Make sure to tell her how u like it. The BJ started off one way but when I told her how I like it -- WOW f*cking fireworks. Top 5 BJ worldwide and I've been everywhere. Sweet girl. Amazing GFE. You must see her![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2507892]I saw notela's reviews, I have is 50/50 thoughts about her, as for me enhanced / Botox are all turn offs!!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I fucked Noleta around this time last year before she got breast implants. I actually told her this at the time, but her tits were perfect the way they were. Looking at the recent pictures of Noleta on the Diva site confirms that the bolt-ONS were not a great move. But, I'm someone who hates fake tits so I'm probably biased.

I'd session with Fortune again way before I would repeat with Noleta. In fact, I'd try one of the hot new girls that are being well reviewed on the Diva site. Noleta was nice, incredibly beautiful and sexy, but I'm really happy I got her before she started getting out of hand with body modification.

This makes me want to put out my top five!!

But I'm not going to do them and rank order; I'm going to explain that you get different experiences at different places. You can't compare a seafood restaurant to a steak restaurant. It depends on what you want to eat that night.

- London. The incall game at divas is expensive and worth it. Plus you get a world class city to spend time.

- Tijuana. It's raunchy and dirty. I would not fly to get here, but if you live in California, it's well worth it. The food and beer scene is amazing. This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life.

- German FKK. It's not the best experience, but it's an experience you have to have. Like a Vegas buffet. You're not mad you did it, but you don't necessarily want to do it all the time.

- Montreal- very attractive European-ish girls for when you can't get to Europe. City is decent.

- Spain. Wide range of girls to choose from, and great cities (barca and Madrid) to enjoy food and culture.

And the sh*t list.

- Amsterdam. Just not a very interesting city, and the monger game is contrived and forced. This is like going to Vegas for culture.

- Vegas. Just ugh.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2505566]Hey my friend! And you had the temerity to call me a lucky ba*tard for having options in Spain at the moment! I thought I'd mongered far and wide yet this was only your list of best. Maybe you mongered elsewhere that did not make this impressive list. I was somewhat staggered to see Argentina not even make the top 10. Interested to know why you think a country blessed with so many stunning girls, and close to your number one choice, comes so low? Ditto Panama.
For good measure, my list would be:

1. Germany (FKKs).

2. Spain. Love the CDS and Madrid.

3. Manchester in the UK but London wouldn't make my top 50 - I hate bait and switch.

4. Cambodia.

5. Switzerland. Loved Globe.[/QUOTE]

You should give the 100 Proof ladies a try in Vegas, especially Dani Quinn.

As far as looks and services in the room, I get the exact same thing I get from my favorites in Montreal and Spain. Granted for two to three times the price.

But other than the very high price, everything is the same. So I don't give it an Ugh.

[URL]https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/companions[/URL]

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2508620]This makes me want to put out my top five!!

But I'm not going to do them and rank order; I'm going to explain that you get different experiences at different places. You can't compare a seafood restaurant to a steak restaurant. It depends on what you want to eat that night.

- London. The incall game at divas is expensive and worth it. Plus you get a world class city to spend time.

- Tijuana. It's raunchy and dirty. I would not fly to get here, but if you live in California, it's well worth it. The food and beer scene is amazing. This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life.

- German FKK. It's not the best experience, but it's an experience you have to have. Like a Vegas buffet. You're not mad you did it, but you don't necessarily want to do it all the time.

- Montreal- very attractive European-ish girls for when you can't get to Europe. City is decent.

- Spain. Wide range of girls to choose from, and great cities (barca and Madrid) to enjoy food and culture..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2508811]You should give the 100 Proof ladies a try in Vegas, especially Dani Quinn.

As far as looks and services in the room, I get the exact same thing I get from my favorites in Montreal and Spain. Granted for two to three times the price.

But other than the very high price, everything is the same. So I don't give it an Ugh.

[URL]https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/companions[/URL][/QUOTE]Mongerer88 — what is the price of those 100 proof girls. I can't imagine.

AmericanPI. Love your perspective and wit. My favorite: "This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life. " Haha I laughed so hard.

On Vegas I had some of my best Sugar Babies there. Had Krystal 2 nights, including one overnight. An Alexa 2 nights also. Also an overnight. Recognize that finding SBs is a huge amount of work. But having a full evening with a hottie and a full overnight (her choice) for $500 beats escorts by a mile. An Alexa is the girl I flew to Tampa a few weeks ago. (See Seeking Arrangements thread) Once you find an SB with chemistry you can rinse and repeat.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2508905]Mongerer88 what is the price of those 100 proof girls. I can't imagine.

AmericanPI. Love your perspective and wit. My favorite: "This is like the mongers version of bad tv. It has its place in your life. " Haha I laughed so hard.

On Vegas I had some of my best Sugar Babies there. Had Krystal 2 nights, including one overnight. An Alexa 2 nights also. Also an overnight. Recognize that finding SBs is a huge amount of work. But having a full evening with a hottie and a full overnight (her choice) for $500 beats escorts by a mile. An Alexa is the girl I flew to Tampa a few weeks ago. (See Seeking Arrangements thread) Once you find an SB with chemistry you can rinse and repeat.[/QUOTE]Prices are in the Packages section of the website. They are $500 an hour with a bit of a discount for longer time blocks.

[URL]https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/packages[/URL]

I usually only have an hour or two to devote to the activity in Vegas, so escorts are my personal preference at the moment, but I enjoy reading your reports and eventually plan to explore the SB route. For the longest time, I had a regular escort in Vegas (not a 100 Proof lady) who I often went out to dinner with afterward, so I understand the benefits and enjoyment. That was back in the days that Vegas independent escort rates were more in the $400-$450 hour range.

This is one of the last holdouts at that still has relatively lower rates. I haven't seen her personally, but a guy I trust on the Toronto board says very good things about her.

[URL]https://www.exoticjaydalee.com/aboutme/[/URL]

I am curious as to what AmericanPI did to have such bad experiences in Vegas? It isn't Montreal, Barcelona or Madrid in terms of pricing, but as I said before, Dani Quinn of 100 Proof was as attractive and talented as anyone I have seen in any of the three cities he ranked so highly. In fact, she would be number one in terms of perfect breasts.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2508911]I am curious as to what AmericanPI did to have such bad experiences in Vegas? It isn't Montreal, Barcelona or Madrid in terms of pricing, but as I said before, Dani Quinn of 100 Proof was as attractive and talented as anyone I have seen in any of the three cities he ranked so highly. In fact, she would be number one in terms of perfect breasts.[/QUOTE]Vegas is, to me, just played out. Everything is more forced and expensive than it needs to be.

Restaurants are all the most superlative of their kind, which is great, kind of, but it's just overdone. Celebrity chef 200 dollar meals you post on Instagram.

Shows are the same. Expensive, overcooked, overdone.

Strip clubs the same. The hottest girls are there, sure, but they know it and act like it. Just like the restaurants. There's no serendipity. It's just transactional.

I've not had an escort in Vegas. But I assume it's the same. The hottest girls, who know they are, and act like they are, and charge accordingly. It's not the money. I can afford it. It's the nature of the experience I'd personally avoid.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2493574]Sorry about the delayed posts. Crazy few weeks at work here. So, of all the experiences in London, my absolute favorite at Diva was Irada.... [/QUOTE]So, finally got a chance to log back in after a crazy few weeks at work. Looked back at another one of the videos I made when I was in London and figured it's time for a review.

So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-so great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.

Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'the pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world. Also, she was quite Tight.

Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.

Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to re So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-do great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.

Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'd pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world and was quite Tight.

Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.

Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to reveal a Stunning pair. Ate away for a good while. Took off her jeans to reveal blue Calvin Klein lingerie. Guided my fingers in between her legs. Was pleasantly surprised to notice that she was as wet as she could be. Guess she likes having her breasts eaten up like a glutton. Moved to DFK on the bed which she was quite into followed by amazing CBJ. Once that was done, moved on to different positions for a good 20 min or so of banging away. Despite being wet, she was Very tight too which was a pleasant surprise. Doggy style was great but Cowgirl with her breasts bouncing away was the absolute best. Best part of the session was that she seemed to be completely into it. Either she was or was at least a terrific Actor. Or maybe the slowdown in business with the lockdown had her horny AF.

Overall, amazing session. I'd her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.

Overall, amazing session. I'd rate her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.

About Babylon as an agency. The service was spot on, I was able to book the session at like 2 in the night when many of the other agencies start to wind down. But then, if the same lady is available on any other agency, expect to pay more on Babylon. For 90 min with filming with Mask, I think it may have cost me at least 100 more than what I would have paid at Diva. But then, Roberta's not on Diva.

Anyway, in summary, if you love a perfect pair of breasts, don't mind Tattoos, prefer them Tight, do give Roberta a try.

As always, do let me know if you guys have any questions. Cheers!

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2509128]Vegas is, to me, just played out. Everything is more forced and expensive than it needs to be.

Restaurants are all the most superlative of their kind, which is great, kind of, but it's just overdone... [/QUOTE]My thoughts as well. If you'd want to meet young beauties like London has to offer with a service level that's comparable in Vegas, I guess you'd have to be a high flyer with enough dollars to throw away. Spend 350 £ in London and you're almost guaranteed to have your mind blown by a stunner. Not sure if that's the case with Vegas. That's just my two-cents.

New York used to be good, not sure that's tho case anymore.

Hard to beat London though. It's like going to a high-end buffet.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2511649]My thoughts as well. If you'd want to meet young beauties like London has to offer with a service level that's comparable in Vegas, I guess you'd have to be a high flyer with enough dollars to throw away. Spend 350 in London and you're almost guaranteed to have your mind blown by a stunner. Not sure if that's the case with Vegas. That's just my two-cents.

New York used to be good, not sure that's tho case anymore.

Hard to beat London though. It's like going to a high-end buffet.[/QUOTE]London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.

The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant.

If a guy is from the USA, his costs and inconvenience to get to London are significantly greater. Even a supposedly free ticket using airline frequent flier miles has enormous surcharges with respect to the return portion of the ticket that are unique to London.

Certainly London is a fascinating historical city to explore, but a decision as to whether to allocate relatively more funds as an American to European travel differs from person to person. Vegas has some very good driving day trips including Red Rock & Death Valley, Hoover Dam and its canyons, and even the Grand Canyon and southern Utah national parks if someone is up for longer drives.

I know it seems a tad off-topic, but if someone gives Vegas an Ugh rating on this thread, apparently without having even explored its scene, I think it is useful to discuss its scene for reasonable comparisons, so I, and I think others, linked to some $400-$600 an hour escorts who provide a very solid GFE experience. And certainly the Sugar Baby scene that others describe in detail should be given great attention.

Every city has a different scene. Certainly a significant advantage of London over Vegas is the availability of 30 and 45 minute incalls. The older any given one of us gets, the more difficult it is to do two shots in an hour, especially if a guy sees more than one lady on a trip. The time it takes for an escort to travel to and within the casino hotels makes it impossible for her to offer lower priced sessions for less than an hour.

So yes, London is better than Vegas, but right now London is inaccessible to Americans, so if Vegas is going to be discussed on the London thread, let's at least mention the good with the bad. I avoid the overpriced restaurants. And sometimes take a long walk or even the local bus system to eat where the locals eat, or at least at the less expensive restaurants on the strip.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2511648]So, finally got a chance to log back in after a crazy few weeks at work. Looked back at another one of the videos I made when I was in London and figured it's time for a review.

So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-so great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.

Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'the pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world. Also, she was quite Tight.

Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.

Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to re So, besides Irada, the other Amazing session I had was with Roberta at Babylon. Just to reiterate, Irada and Roberta were Amazing but my All time favorite wasn't with any of the agencies. I'll come to that review next and also post some of the not-do great encounters. That being said, this one is for Roberta.

Let me start with the Pros: This lady has Breasts to die for. If I had the money for it, I'd pay just to be able to hold on to / suck on those all night. And she's relatively young. Babylon says 19 but 22 in reality. She's got smooth skin, beautiful bubble butt and a perky, natural pair of breasts worth all the money in the world and was quite Tight.

Negatives: She's got Tattoos, not something they highlight in the pics on Babylon. If that's not your thing, may be a turn-off. There's a large tattoo that covers her left arm in its entirety and a few minor ones on her waist & thighs. Also, once the deed was done she seemed a bit hasty in her exit. Though I had booked her for 90 min. But the session itself was out of this world, so no complaints and I was quite drained out anyway. But would have appreciated it if she just waited around for a bit more. Anyway, just a minor complaint.

Coming to the session. Started with a smoke while we got the formalities out of the way. I tend to do this with those who smoke. Helps break the ice. Once that was done, she took off her coat to reveal a nice figure-hugging black t-shirt and blue jeans. I sat at the edge of the bed with her standing in front while I helped her take her clothes off. Took the top off to reveal a Stunning pair. Ate away for a good while. Took off her jeans to reveal blue Calvin Klein lingerie. Guided my fingers in between her legs. Was pleasantly surprised to notice that she was as wet as she could be. Guess she likes having her breasts eaten up like a glutton. Moved to DFK on the bed which she was quite into followed by amazing CBJ. Once that was done, moved on to different positions for a good 20 min or so of banging away. Despite being wet, she was Very tight too which was a pleasant surprise. Doggy style was great but Cowgirl with her breasts bouncing away was the absolute best. Best part of the session was that she seemed to be completely into it. Either she was or was at least a terrific Actor. Or maybe the slowdown in business with the lockdown had her horny AF.

Overall, amazing session. I'd her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.

Overall, amazing session. I'd rate her 8.5/10. I would definitely repeat but then London's got so much to offer, you never run out of options.

About Babylon as an agency. The service was spot on, I was able to book the session at like 2 in the night when many of the other agencies start to wind down. But then, if the same lady is available on any other agency, expect to pay more on Babylon. For 90 min with filming with Mask, I think it may have cost me at least 100 more than what I would have paid at Diva. But then, Roberta's not on Diva.

Anyway, in summary, if you love a perfect pair of breasts, don't mind Tattoos, prefer them Tight, do give Roberta a try.

As always, do let me know if you guys have any questions. Cheers![/QUOTE]Damn Roberta is fucking hot! Sooo my type. But CBJ? Was that her plan or yours? I'the love to put her on my shortlist. But not if CBJ. So what's the scoop?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2511791]London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.

The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant.

If a guy is from the USA, his costs and inconvenience to get to London are significantly greater. Even a supposedly free ticket using airline frequent flier miles has enormous surcharges with respect to the return portion of the ticket that are unique to London.

Certainly London is a fascinating historical city to explore, but a decision as to whether to allocate relatively more funds as an American to European travel differs from person to person. Vegas has some very good driving day trips including Red Rock & Death Valley, Hoover Dam and its canyons, and even the Grand Canyon and southern Utah national parks if someone is up for longer drives.

I know it seems a tad off-topic, but if someone gives Vegas an Ugh rating on this thread, apparently without having even explored its scene, I think it is useful to discuss its scene for reasonable comparisons, so I, and I think others, linked to some $400-$600 an hour escorts who provide a very solid GFE experience. And certainly the Sugar Baby scene that others describe in detail should be given great attention.

Every city has a different scene. Certainly a significant advantage of London over Vegas is the availability of 30 and 45 minute incalls. The older any given one of us gets, the more difficult it is to do two shots in an hour, especially if a guy sees more than one lady on a trip. The time it takes for an escort to travel to and within the casino hotels makes it impossible for her to offer lower priced sessions for less than an hour.

So yes, London is better than Vegas, but right now London is inaccessible to Americans, so if Vegas is going to be discussed on the London thread, let's at least mention the good with the bad. I avoid the overpriced restaurants. And sometimes take a long walk or even the local bus system to eat where the locals eat, or at least at the less expensive restaurants on the strip.[/QUOTE]I live on the east coast and would never consider heading west for action. I used to hobby in Vegas in the eighties and never really enjoyed it, the action in NYC was much better. Back then accommodation was very cheap and food was great. However, I never liked the attitude of the hookers, they were too mercenary for my taste. An hour with a hooker would have averaged about $50 but the vibe was never right for me, the girls were too cold and overly time conscious. I've not been back to Vegas since the late 80's.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2511851]Damn Roberta is fucking hot! Sooo my type. But CBJ? Was that her plan or yours? I'the love to put her on my shortlist. But not if CBJ. So what's the scoop?[/QUOTE]Oh, should've mentioned. CBJ is usually the way to go for me. I try and play safe so I can keep going. I'm guessing Roberta offers either.

The only one time I've skipped the see, I was high as a kite. And I went for A+ with Irada. So in a way my choices aren't completely logical.

But generally speaking, I opt for CBJ.

Roberta. Highly recommended. I'd repeat just for those breasts.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2511791]London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.

The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant..[/QUOTE]Yea, I agree. Getting to London can be a pain. This year especially has proved that.

Just curious, in the US, is Vegas your favorite go-to city of the lot?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2511991]I live on the east coast and would never consider heading west for action. I used to hobby in Vegas in the eighties and never really enjoyed it, the action in NYC was much better..[/QUOTE]Yea. Same here. East Coast. I think NYC in general is going down in terms of quality but used to be good till even a few years ago. Wish I was old enough in the 90's. I've heard those were the golden days for the city.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2512048]Yea, I agree. Getting to London can be a pain. This year especially has proved that.

Just curious, in the US, is Vegas your favorite go-to city of the lot?[/QUOTE]I pretty much like NYC, Miami and Las Vegas the same. Going to any one place too often gets old. Chicago has a scene, but it has never been as good in my opinion as those three cities and L. A. Of course none of them are as good as major European cities or Montreal or Toronto, but they all have their place. Let's face it, most Americans travel to American cities more often than overseas, and for the foreseeable future it is all Americans will have. So we might as well get used to it.

Very well put. And fair.

A totally rational actor would consider travel time, travel expense, etc in the mental calculus and figure a comparable 500 dollar Vegas provider is cheap by comparison to a 350 dollar one in London that requires so much more effort and time.

But enter the right brain. Once you know what you can get for what, you feel insulted otherwise. That a burger costs 14 dollars in Disneyland does not make you feel it's any less overpriced. You know you're paying for location / access / convenience. And you kinda resent it. Just saying.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2511791]London is significantly better than Vegas in terms of looks and services of providers on a price adjusted basis, all other variables held constant.

The problem in real-life is that those other variables cannot be held constant..[/QUOTE]

I believe, the Americans have the honey pot!! Brazil & Colombia. And off course the other Latin American countries.

Have been only to Colombia, I will easily skip Europe for Latin America. Cheap, less attitude better service and finally beauties! Flesh at right places.

The below is my opinion.

East Asian -- Thai / Vietnam / etc.

You will be treated like a baby, they will try to please you as much they can.

Europe -- East and West.

Business like. You pay for the service and time, if the girls finds a little interest you, then you might feel at home!

Some of the agencies girls stand out with pleasant behaviour eg: Diva.

Latin America (I am only writing based on my Colombian experience).

Will treat you like a Man, the girls take it as an insult if the man is not satisfied.

There are some cheaky girls, however if they feel that they are not women enough to satisfy you, they will go an extra mile to prove their womanhood!

Never had a bad experience in all three cites (Bogota / Medellin / Cartagena), while I was there for 3 weeks, few days in each city.

2020! All plans shattered to visit Colombia again!

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2512144]I pretty much like NYC, Miami and Las Vegas the same. Going to any one place too often gets old. Chicago has a scene, but it has never been as good in my opinion as those three cities and L. A. Of course none of them are as good as major European cities or Montreal or Toronto, but they all have their place. Let's face it, most Americans travel to American cities more often than overseas, and for the foreseeable future it is all Americans will have. So we might as well get used to it.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2512049]Yea. Same here. East Coast. I think NYC in general is going down in terms of quality but used to be good till even a few years ago. Wish I was old enough in the 90's. I've heard those were the golden days for the city.[/QUOTE]The golden days for NYC were in the 70's and 80's. The best mongering ever on the planet with the possible exception of 1920's Berlin which I have only read about.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2512341]I believe, the Americans have the honey pot!! Brazil & Colombia. And off course the other Latin American countries.[/QUOTE]Good to hear that perspective. Makes me, as an American, appreciate what I have. Though Depends on what you like.

Personally I like them white chicks. Pale skin, light eyes, etc. So Europe is heaven.

Some dudes like them Latinas. Some dudes like Africans. Some dudes like Asians. Some are totally p**sy agnostic. A pipe for each hole I suppose. I'd take Europe any day of the week. Especially London.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2508811]You should give the 100 Proof ladies a try in Vegas, especially Dani Quinn.

As far as looks and services in the room, I get the exact same thing I get from my favorites in Montreal and Spain. Granted for two to three times the price.

But other than the very high price, everything is the same. So I don't give it an Ugh.

[URL]https://www.100proofoflasvegas.com/companions[/URL][/QUOTE]M88 if this works for you that is great.

I just looked the website I didn't see a single girl that I would be willing to pay. Sure if she walked up to me a party and said lets go have sex for free, I would do it.

I realize different people have different fantasies but none of these ladies hits my college girl fantasy.

And for $500 I can get three girls in London not one.

I suppose if you are seeking a late 20's early 30's girl and have a lot more disposable money than I do this might work great.

I have never been to Las Vegas besides airport, but this information does not incent me to make a trip.

MM.

Most everywhere in Europe, on a price-adjusted basis, is better than anywhere in the United States. However, for those living in the USA, foreign travel is simply not possible. For what it is with, Dani Quinn in Las Vegas is early-mid 20's and looks relatively young in real life. In general, though, you make an excellent point that Europe, and Montreal for that matter, has a greater availability of 18-22 year olds than the USA Escort scene, since most USA Escorts are independents, and it takes a while to build up the ability to work as an independent, and the current crop of new interested American ladies just turning 18 seem to prefer the Sugar Baby system. The German / Swiss FKK system and you. K. 's Diva Escort system (presumably) provides a strong support system that makes it relatively easier for older Eastern European teens to work in the industry. If you are European, there is certainly going to be no practical reason to learn anything about the USA Scene. There are three interesting points of analysis, though. What the hell are the American guys who claim to only monger overseas doing for commercial sex right now? Are many of them just waiting it out? Hell, at least an American can fly to Vegas. London, especially after last night's stage 4 lockdown, is simply off-limits for them. Another issue is whether Eastern Europeans will be able to operate as freely in London post-Brexit. It is always worth noting that the price differences between USA And "native-born" you. K. Escorts is not that great on a currency-adjusted basis. And of course the greatest unknown is whether affordable, and / or employer-subsidized international travel, will return to its previous level for Americans post Covid. There have been a lot of airline bailouts in terms of loans that end up making the government and the nasty general public a little too nosy when it comes to things like inexpensive tickets and "low-tier" award tickets using frequent flyer miles. I hope life gets back to normal for Americans, because I enjoy European travel, too. But I am careful to avoid being a slave to anything and I think it is useful to evaluate the overall costs and enjoyments available even in the USA Market, because certain international markets for Americans might not get back to the way they were anytime soon.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2513409]M88 if this works for you that is great.

I just looked the website I didn't see a single girl that I would be willing to pay. Sure if she walked up to me a party and said lets go have sex for free, I would do it.

I realize different people have different fantasies but none of these ladies hits my college girl fantasy.

And for $500 I can get three girls in London not one.

I suppose if you are seeking a late 20's early 30's girl and have a lot more disposable money than I do this might work great..[/QUOTE]

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Actually that is absolutely correct. My desire to not catch Covid exceeds my desire to get some tang. It sucks, and there's going to be A hell of a trip at the other end of this, but in the meantime I'm just passing time.

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[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2513585]Quote responding to: What the hell are the American guys who claim to only monger overseas doing for commercial sex right now? Are many of them just waiting it out?.....[/QUOTE]For me its banging hookers who are no where near as hot as the FKK sweeties. For others I suppose its pornhub.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2513888]For me its banging hookers who are no where near as hot as the FKK sweeties. For others I suppose its pornhub.[/QUOTE]In the US right now the only game in town is Sugar Babies. There is a Seeking Arrangement thread (go to general and dating agencies) that covers this. Prior to Covid I started experimenting with SA during travel. And with a ton of work you can find some real gems. I saw 18 girls between June and Dec 2019 before Covid and they were all pretty great.

Now post Covid this has become the only game in town in the US for many of us. It takes a lot of work to weed the wheat from the chaff. But once you do the reward is high. Had a steady girl (weekly-ish) from Sept-Oct tho that has fizzled now. And now a new one that looks like she'll last a while. The sex is very intimate and passionate since these girls are not pros per se.

Anyhow. Sugar is the name of the game in the US right now.

[QUOTE=Bhamsookh1;2505775]Hello brethren!

Can I please request to get some leads PM'ed to me? I am looking for an independent escort / model (not the ones with agencies please, thanks). Even contacts of girls looking for sugardaddy are welcome. I live in Zone 1. Budget under 500 quid for short time. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Any help fellas? PM active.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2513932]In the US right now the only game in town is Sugar Babies. There is a Seeking Arrangement thread (go to general and dating agencies) that covers this. Prior to Covid I started experimenting with SA during travel. And with a ton of work you can find some real gems. I saw 18 girls between June and Dec 2019 before Covid and they were all pretty great.

Now post Covid this has become the only game in town in the US for many of us. It takes a lot of work to weed the wheat from the chaff. But once you do the reward is high. Had a steady girl (weekly-ish) from Sept-Oct tho that has fizzled now. And now a new one that looks like she'll last a while. The sex is very intimate and passionate since these girls are not pros per se.

Anyhow. Sugar is the name of the game in the US right now.[/QUOTE]Glad you're having a great time with Seeking. I've tried it, its not for me. The reward is not commensurate with the effort.

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[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2513585]Quote responding to: What the hell are the American guys who claim to only monger overseas doing for commercial sex right now? Are many of them just waiting it out?

Actually that is absolutely correct. My desire to not catch Covid exceeds my desire to get some tang. It sucks, and there's going to be A hell of a trip at the other end of this, but in the meantime I'm just passing time.[/QUOTE]Haha. Spot on. I've been looking at where to head to next the moment things get back to normal. Funny enough I'm quite close to Toronto but haven't been there yet. Hearing a lot about Markhan, Ontario. And yea, hopefully going to be a Hell of a trip at the end of it. Or, alternatively, if it the first session at the end of the pandemic ends up being vanilla / uninteresting, I just may end up quitting the hobby.

Not really though. Who am I kidding.

On a parallel note, Isn't London one of the few cities where filming the experience is more accepted? I know it usually costs 50-10 quid more, but I've always wondered why it isn't an option most folks opt for. Do any of you all go for the Filming with Mask option too? Or is it just a Fetish for me.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2514698]Haha. Spot on. I've been looking at where to head to next the moment things get back to normal. Funny enough I'm quite close to Toronto but haven't been there yet. Hearing a lot about Markhan, Ontario. And yea, hopefully going to be a Hell of a trip at the end of it. Or, alternatively, if it the first session at the end of the pandemic ends up being vanilla / uninteresting, I just may end up quitting the hobby.

Not really though. Who am I kidding.

On a parallel note, Isn't London one of the few cities where filming the experience is more accepted? I know it usually costs 50-10 quid more, but I've always wondered why it isn't an option most folks opt for. Do any of you all go for the Filming with Mask option too? Or is it just a Fetish for me.[/QUOTE]Where are you at in the states? I am in Southern California. So getting to Canada is not just a quick drive. But really looking forward topping on that plane.

Re: filming some people like it, some people don't. It's not my jam. I don't like how I look porking. And. Domestic issues with keeping records. Just being real.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2514698]........On a parallel note, Isn't London one of the few cities where filming the experience is more accepted? I know it usually costs 50-10 quid more, but I've always wondered why it isn't an option most folks opt for. Do any of you all go for the Filming with Mask option too? Or is it just a Fetish for me.[/QUOTE]Filming was a huge fetish for me back in the day. If a girl did not allow it I used to choose someone else. I have a ton of video tapes I made back in the day some with me doing it but most with girls doing naughty things to themselves and to others. Back then there was no internet so photos and videos were easily obtained. If I ever become famous and that box is found I'll be in huge trouble. LOL.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2514750]Where are you at in the states? I am in Southern California. So getting to Canada is not just a quick drive. But really looking forward topping on that plane..[/QUOTE]Near Ann Arbor. Been here for over a year now. Used to be in Philly so back then NYC was within reach. Philly wasn't too bad either. Truth be told, it's kinda slow in and around here even without Covid. I guess that's the way it is the closer you get to the Mid West (or) the farther you move away from the coast. And with Work-Travel on hold, no real excuse to leave home and go cross states.

Toronto's just a drive away so I know where I'm heading next year.

Isn't SoCal good? I thought you guys have it all. Weather and women. You do have a good Spa scene too yea?

And not sure if you mentioned you've been there already. But Tijuana, as much as it may be a trashy, the agencies there seem to be legit? Have you been?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2514888]Filming was a huge fetish for me back in the day.... If I ever become famous and that box is found I'll be in huge trouble. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yea, it's definitely a Fetish for me now. Back in the day I used to think it'd be a good idea but never really went about trying to do it. Now that I've lived in London, I've realized how much of a Huge Fetish it is. I guess I keep tell myself that when I'm in my 70's (if I live that long), it would be awesome to relive the memories. Old retired chap watching memories of how (young) women way above his league treated him like a king. And the London shoots have definitely helped with the Lockdown.

And yea, hoping none of it gets found. In which case I might as well just jump off a bridge LOL.

[QUOTE=Bhamsookh1;2514183]Any help fellas? PM active.[/QUOTE]Search for 'Anne girlfriend' on Adult Work. User ID: 5970896.

I haven't met her yet but been noticing some raving reviews on other boards.

And if she looks anywhere close to her pics (which all the reviews claim she does), you should have an amazing time.

Not sure if we can post links here but if you're not able to find her page, I'll try posting the Adultwork link here. Unfortunately my PM isn't active.

Hi friends,

I am looking for MILF fun at Central or East London.

Please help me with genuine contacts.

[QUOTE=SirfIndian;2514982]Hi friends,

I am looking for MILF fun at Central or East London.

Please help me with genuine contacts.[/QUOTE]Check out Diva escorts my friend. In my opinion, they're the Gold Standard in London. Else, Adultwork, if you are willing to take a little bit of a risk. Do your research, read up reviews before you take the plunge.

Unfortunately, can't help you with MILFs, never been my preference.

[QUOTE=SirfIndian;2514982]Hi friends,

I am looking for MILF fun at Central or East London.

Please help me with genuine contacts.[/QUOTE]I am not sure about now especially with covid but Soho walk ups used to have MILFs. Could you go there and let us know your experiences?

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2512044]Oh, should've mentioned. CBJ is usually the way to go for me. I try and play safe so I can keep going. I'm guessing Roberta offers either.

The only one time I've skipped the see, I was high as a kite. And I went for A+ with Irada. So in a way my choices aren't completely logical.

But generally speaking, I opt for CBJ.

Roberta. Highly recommended. I'd repeat just for those breasts.[/QUOTE]Hi guy and Merry Christmas.

Here is my experience with the famous Roberta from Babylongirl agency.

This happened a few days ago.

I'm not British but I have been living in London for a few years now and I offer sometimes myself some good time with an escort.

Having read the feedback below about this girl, I wanted to book her and called the agency. Appointment taken quickly and efficiently for the same day in the evening. Incall meeting. I came at the agreed time at girl's apartment in the neighborhood of bond street tube station.

Nice little flat, the girl open the door and she is not the girl from the photo you see on the website, not at all to say the truth but somewhere sufficiently cute so I decide to stay. She has black hair, not blond, physically she has a sort a GND body, probably on the high end side of the GND spectrum though. She directs me to the bedroom straight when I enter the flat.

The girl was not specially dressed, just a short and a tee shirt but we start to chat for a few minutes and I feel comfortable. Time goes fast and after nearly 10 min we have not done anything yet so I pay her 200 £ and pull out my clothes to start the fun. She goes to what I think is the kitchen with the money (the door of the kitchen is closed but I thought this was to avoid customer to see anything else than the bedroom). She comes back to the bedroom 30's after.

I always bring and use my own condoms with WG because I have a slightly oversized dick and feel more comfortable with appropriate condoms than the ones used by WGs. She reacts when she sees the condoms arguing that she only uses her condoms, I explain about my dick size. Then she says that, my dick is indeed to big so she can only offer handjob and blowjob. At that moment I understand that there is something wrong and that happened just after I paid her.

I say that I understand that she might not want to fuck with me so, fair enough, I will put my clothes back on, she will give my money back because I don't want to pay 200 £ for HJ and BJ only and I will go home.

She explains that she can give me back half of the money eg 100 £. I start to be a bit nervous and the tone change. I'm going to be fooled by a 20 yo Romanian chick! I start to express myself in a more assertive way so there is no doubt that I will leave living 100 £ on the table when no service has been given. At that moment, I fully dressed again, just need to put my shoes and jacket on.

She goes to the kitchen to take my money and I follow her, she enters the kitchen and fuck it looks there is someone there! Hidden behind the door. I push the door while I'm just behind the girl and she says NO you can't enter here. And, at that moment a guy goes out from the kitchen like crazy armed with a wood stick and he shoot on me, screaming: get out, get out, get out.

I immediately understand the guy is the pimp of the girl, he stays quiet in the kitchen while the girl meets the mongers in the room.

I'm kind of speechless and a bit terrified, the guy run into the bedroom still screaming me to go out, take my shoes and jacket, come back in the corridor and throw, myself violently out, my shoes and jacket out as well outside the flat and slam the door.

I'm outside, have lost 200 £, been threatened by a pimp with a wood stick, I call the agency to complain. The guy from the agency tell me he call me back, he need to talk to the girl. Apparently the girl serves him a very different story saying I have violent and a neighbor came to help her. Anyway, the agency offer me 100 £ discount for my next meeting with them.

So is my experience with Roberta.

She proposed me coke as well when we were discussing at the beginning of the meeting.

Happy mongering.

Thanks for suggestions.

Do you have contacts of indie. My PM is active.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2515025]Check out Diva escorts my friend. In my opinion, they're the Gold Standard in London. Else, Adultwork, if you are willing to take a little bit of a risk. Do your research, read up reviews before you take the plunge.

Unfortunately, can't help you with MILFs, never been my preference.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515213]Hi guy and Merry Christmas.

Here is my experience with the famous Roberta from Babylongirl agency.

... So is my experience with Roberta..[/QUOTE]Oh f* So sorry to hear about your experience. Seems poles apart from what it was like for me. One of the aspects I did not appreciate was that she seemed to be in a bit of a hurry to leave as soon as the deed was done. I mentioned that in my review. But everything you experienced seems a whole lot worse. Folks deserve to know.

I had met her in my apartment. So not sure if Outcall worked in my favor.

Anyway, long story short, I'm sorry you had such a disgusting experience. And I feel even more like a dick that my review may have been one of the reasons you opted for her. I'll try and delete my post.

Cheers.

Also, as a follow up to my previous rely, if any of you plan to meet Irada based on my review, please try Outcall. I know from her IG that she has a Russian bloke around. I'd hate to hear that that guy threatened one of you folks like the Roberta story below. Not sure if that guy lives with her, seems like her boyfriend.

End of Free movement but 90 days Visa Free from EU countries?

IMO this is good news for UK punting as this will mean the UK will still get a constant supply of vfm WGs from easter Europe such as PL, CZ, SK, HU, RO. Without them we are relying on the local supplies and as a demand is high, we will be paying a premium price. Anyway, many of them are not staying in the UK permanently, they just come working as a WG for a few months go back home and come again they are running out of cash.

Unlike in Germany, WGs, Prossies have not been regulated in the UK so they have not broken the law working as a WGs, Prossies what do you think guys?

[QUOTE=Adindas;2515394]End of Free movement but 90 days Visa Free from EU countries?

IMO this is good news for UK punting as this ..... working as a WGs, Prossies what do you think guys?[/QUOTE]I think it will still hit the options that London provides. There's currently so many women to choose from. That could go down.

Even though most WGs usually are in London only temporarily, I think 90 days is too short a time. I mean, most WGs rent apartments / rooms for when they are in the UK. If they are traveling to London for work, finding an apartment that they can rent out for 90 days could turn out to be a hassle and may even make their trips less profitable.

Unless Diva, Babylon etc have a set of rooms they rent out. Like the den in Milton Keynes. Don't recall the name of the agency.

Anyway, long story short, Unfortunately, I think punting may take a hit in London. All we can do is wait and see.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2515278]Oh f* So sorry to hear about your experience. Seems poles apart from what it was like for me. One of the aspects I did not appreciate was that she seemed to be in a bit of a hurry to leave as soon as the deed was done. I mentioned that in my review. But everything you experienced seems a whole lot worse. Folks deserve to know.

I had met her in my apartment. So not sure if Outcall worked in my favor.

Anyway, long story short, I'm sorry you had such a disgusting experience. And I feel even more like a dick that my review may have been one of the reasons you opted for her. I'll try and delete my post.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]No worries mate, that's part of the game.

That's being said, I might have an explanation for your experience when she was very into as you said. You said it was outcall and at 2 AM in the morning and this girl is a junky, she proposed me coke and I'm pretty sure she is a heavy consumer. Probably that at 2 am with noze full of coke, she was disinhibited and horny and that's why you had a great time. She was in a hurry to leave as her pimp was waiting for her outside in his car or in a cab. Pure speculation of course but my meeting was a 11 pm and incall with pimp hidden in the kitchen so that's a different context. Anyway, by far the worse punt or punt tentative I ever had.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2515456]I think it will still hit the options that London provides. There's currently so many women to choose from. That could go down.

Even though most WGs usually are in London only temporarily, I think 90 days is too short a time. I mean, most WGs rent apartments / rooms for when they are in the UK. If they are traveling to London for work, finding an apartment that they can rent out for 90 days could turn out to be a hassle and may even make their trips less profitable.

Unless Diva, Babylon etc have a set of rooms they rent out. Like the den in Milton Keynes. Don't recall the name of the agency.

Anyway, long story short, Unfortunately, I think punting may take a hit in London. All we can do is wait and see.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.

Situation like this, you should tell the agency you will call the police, as its a threat to your life.

Not sure you want to call in real, they wouldn't want the police to come into the neighbor hood, which gives more trouble for them than you.

These kinds of behavior are getting to be seen more in London, I did write a report earlier about a girl, who I got introduced via TG.

Safe mongering to all.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515213]Hi guy and Merry Christmas.

Here is my experience with the famous Roberta from Babylongirl agency.

This happened a few days ago.

I'm not British but I have been living in London for a few years now and I offer sometimes myself some good time with an escort.

Having read the feedback below about this girl, I wanted to book her and called the agency. Appointment taken quickly and efficiently for the same day in the evening. Incall meeting. I came at the agreed time at girl's apartment in the neighborhood of bond street tube station.

Nice little flat, the girl open the door and she is not the girl from the photo you see on the website, not at all to say the truth but somewhere sufficiently cute so I decide to stay. She has black hair, not blond, physically she has a sort a GND body, probably on the high end side of the GND spectrum though. She directs me to the bedroom straight when I enter the flat..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515213]....I'm outside, have lost 200 , been threatened by a pimp with a wood stick, I call the agency to complain. The guy from the agency tell me he call me back, he need to talk to the girl. Apparently the girl serves him a very different story saying I have violent and a neighbor came to help her. Anyway, the agency offer me 100 discount for my next meeting with them.

So is my experience with Roberta.

She proposed me coke as well when we were discussing at the beginning of the meeting.

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515539]There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.[/QUOTE]I understand they use a bogus Estonian or Lithuanian passport to get into UK and there are a lot of rusky hookers in London and elsewhere which is strange as you observe.

Some of them are very good which I used for many months, others are bad ass and had rows with them.

SoCal's not so good. We do have a spa scene, yes. But it's Russian roulette. You never know what you're going to get. You cannot choose ahead of time, most places, and even then the average provider is a 4-5. Rarely do you get an 8. After years and many thousands of dollars I found 2 places that are reliable and solid, and now I wonder if they'll survive covid. Honestly it's just a lot of work. And then you are in the room and always wondering if LE is going to raid. I'm tired of entering establishments having to consider ahead of time what my reason for being there is.

I have indeed been to Tijuana. Many times. I'm a fan. It's not as classy as an FKK or London escort scene. It's trashy and tacky all over. But honestly that's part of the appeal. Sitting in a taco hut after busting a nut thinking "yeah, this is happening right now."

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2514942]

Isn't SoCal good? I thought you guys have it all. Weather and women. You do have a good Spa scene too yea?

And not sure if you mentioned you've been there already. But Tijuana, as much as it may be a trashy, the agencies there seem to be legit? Have you been?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2515759]Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.[/QUOTE]This report spooked me too. But don't write London off. It's a good city for the hobby IMHO. I'm personally more of an SA guy, but when I use escorts, it's always outcall. I like being on my turf and I like the thrill of opening the door and seeing the girl that I've never seen, but am about to bang. I have had issues with bait and switch (like all of us), so sometimes I get a good look at the girl while she is on her way to my door (hotel or airbnb). If she is not desirable or too much of a bait and switch, I call a silent audible (cancellation) with no confrontation and move on with my night. Maybe even call another provider for a 2nd attempt.

Before you guys say I'm a bastard for being callous with the WGs, don't think about your fav WG. Instead think about WGs that have given piss poor service for good money; bad attitudes, bad hygiene, or ones that don't honor their list of agreed upon services; WGs that won't switch positions or that intentionally bait and switch. The road of insensitivity and deceit is a two way street. My mind state would be unnecessary if the hobby was fair.

Safe mongering.

02.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515539]There are plenty of Girls from Russia in the London WG scene, as Russia is not an EU member, how do they do? Will be the same for all the other RO, HU, BG nationalities. I'm not too worried, big money hope will make them find a solution.[/QUOTE]Some of them are coming as students. Unlike many Romanians, Bulgarians, Hungarians many of Russian girls are working as a high-class escorts. They are normally employed iby Bingo Halls, Casinos to attract rich people from Asia, Middle East (the golf) to burn their cash in casinos.

They might also be sponsored by Russians oligarch. Keep in mind there are reasonable numbers of Russians oligarch in London.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2515759]Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.[/QUOTE]Well, before March this year I used to fly once to twice a month to Germany, Dusseldorf or Frankfurt, I prefer by far FKKs, they are a legal frame and the bad girls can't go to far with you in being dishonest. I have started to go back to visit escorts in London since beginning of the pandemic but after that experience with Roberta and her pimp, I m done, I will wait Germany to reopen. And by the way the Roberta is the typical girl you find in FKKs, those who always try to fool the customers but, in a club, the loss is limited to 50 euros, you never see an armed pimp behind the door next to the bedroom, you immediately can go for another girl if the one you chose initially does not deliver as promised.

[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2516387].......... think about WGs that have given piss poor service for good money; bad attitudes, bad hygiene, or ones that don't honor their list of agreed upon services; WGs that won't switch positions or that intentionally bait and switch.....[/QUOTE]Have you had many of those in London?

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Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.

But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.

And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.

Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.

So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.

(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).

PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz it’s 103 to 2. Lol.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2516829]Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.

But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.

And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.

Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.

So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.

(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).

PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz its 103 to 2. Lol.[/QUOTE]Boys if one bad report scares you off, fair enough that is what your hand is for. There is always some risk and some fun, so this is not totally unexpected.

Steve is correct you can minimize your chance of things like this. First question why isn't Roberta on Diva? These girls usually are on many escort sites to maximize earnings For example.

Rushana on Diva is Aletta on Babylon.

Stefsia on Diva is Celine on Babylon.

I wonder is Pacifica on Diva the same girl as Roberta on Babylon.

When I made my first trip to London, Steve advised me to try Diva, it is one of the best pieces of advice I have received.

Diva at the bottom of the page has link "Not Recommended Escorts" They post pictures of the girls you should avoid. I know it is a few clicks of work, and you have compare the pictures because the girls change their names on each site but they may be worth it to avoid bad experience.

I have a slightly different take and I like to try out new girls before there are 20 five star reviews, but that means I am open to the odd bad experience.

Even in FKK, my first FKK I sampled 4 girls and 3 of the four provided boring mechanical sex. I was like why is everyone raving about FKK. I just happened to get unlucky and select girls who were not good. Many good experience since then.

While I agree that if a girl has many good reviews, you are likely to enjoy her also. That is not a guarantee.

I did a session with Chiquita and she had only good reviews. Our session was horrible. Did I catch her on a bad day? I doubt it, more then likely it was something about me that made the session bad. There are no guarantees.

Similarly I did a session with Toutsi and it was pretty bad. I gave a 1 star review, since then she has only had 5 star reviews. Maybe she improved.

I have also done sessions with girls with mixed reviews and had a great time. Then I prefer younger and less experienced girls like I had at University than girls with amazing BJ or sex skills. We all like different things.

You did the best thing you can do, you wrote an accurate but bad review. Think about how many guys will not see Roberta because of this. Roberta may read it and change her behavior in the future.

Having a pimp in the next room is really bad, but I went to girls flat one time and she lived with 3 other girls. When she asked me to take a shower I could hear one of her flatmates banging some other guy. It is part of the fun of the adventure.

Good luck, I know if I was in London right now I would have set up multiple girls a day and I would lie on my back and watch them slide up and down my pole.

MM.

P.S.: Steve I love that you took the time to count up the number of positive reviews on your favorite girls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2516683]Have you had many of those in London?[/QUOTE]Yo Turgid,

My escort experience in London has been 50/50. Every romanian girl I have come across has been cold as ice with poor performance. This is excluding one Romanian / turkish girl that was amazing!! Half (and I do mean half. Bc I've had some that don't care) of the asians complain about your dick size. On the flip side, I've had ukrainian (my fav), polish, and czech girls that have done a great job, honor the menu, and look like their pics.

I have come across some bait and switch and refusal to honor the "whole menu", enough that I prescreen before actually engaging the escort.

Disclaimer is that I have never tried Diva. I've heard good things, so I intend to try next time I'm in town. Additional disclaimer is that I'm usually with a SB when in London. So, I may have unfair standards when judging the performance / interaction of an escort.

02.

[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2517893]Yo Turgid,

My escort experience in London has been 50/50. Every romanian girl I have come across has been cold as ice with poor performance. This is excluding one Romanian / turkish girl that was amazing!! Half (and I do mean half. Bc I've had some that don't care) of the asians complain about your dick size. On the flip side, I've had ukrainian (my fav), polish, and czech girls that have done a great job, honor the menu, and look like their pics.

I have come across some bait and switch and refusal to honor the "whole menu", enough that I prescreen before actually engaging the escort.

Disclaimer is that I have never tried Diva. I've heard good things, so I intend to try next time I'm in town. Additional disclaimer is that I'm usually with a SB when in London. So, I may have unfair standards when judging the performance / interaction of an escort.

02.[/QUOTE]Not all, but I good percentage of Romanian working girls in UK have been trafficked in and are being pimped by Romanian gangs so not surprising there's bait-and-switch and service is poor. A search on AW under London escorts nationality 'Romanian' shows around 500 profiles, many are very similar worded as the gangs just do a cut and paste and reuse the same pics.

But having said that there are some very nice independent Romanian gems in London but you have to dig deep and think with your head and not your dick. I suggest cross-checking the name for plenty of good feedback on AW before thinking about taking the plunge.

Standard. Co. Uk / news / crime / police-arrest-17-after-romanian-sex-trafficking-gang-busted-in-east-london-a4287066. Html.

Hello Friends.

Just want to get feedback from experienced guys in West Midlands_Birmingham, Coventry if girls advertised in Skokka / Vivastreet are reliable or some sort of scams.

Almost all girls wanted gift cards (Amazon, Steam cards, Tesco, Google Play etc) in return of services instead of cash and also want to pay up a minimal booking fee through bank transfer or PayPal.

Is it the norm. Advise and feedback requested.

Regards.

[QUOTE=DennisThomas;2518257]Hello Friends.

Just want to get feedback from experienced guys in West Midlands_Birmingham, Coventry if girls advertised in Skokka / Vivastreet are reliable or some sort of scams.

Almost all girls wanted gift cards (Amazon, Steam cards, Tesco, Google Play etc) in return of services instead of cash and also want to pay up a minimal booking fee through bank transfer or PayPal.

Is it the norm. Advise and feedback requested.

Regards.[/QUOTE]I have not tried the local scene but these all sound like a scam. I'd recommend that you check on adultwork and find those with good reviews.

Hey all,

Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).

Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).

- end of May.

- end of July.

- end of October.

Any thoughts on the following.

- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).

- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?

- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?

This is several pages back so I'm reposting my rubric for choosing agency girls to reduce the chance that anyone has [B]Prelude141[/B] had with Roberta. This works very well for Diva, but it should work for any agency site.

If you run through this rubric, then the odds are overwhelming in your favour that you'll get the girl that's actually shown on the agency site and also receive the services you're looking for. Feel free to add to the rubric whatever works for you.

I've only been mongering for a few years, but I've learned that, like anything in life, there are ups and downs. I'm happy to report that my good experiences far outweigh my bad experiences. However, never put yourself in danger. I've never had to deal with someone hiding in the apartment or ever feeling that my safety was compromised. Let's all be careful out there.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2418839]I have personally used Diva and Babylon, and both agencies resulted in experiences ranging from OK to great. No agency will replace the need to meet the girl in person, but this is the rubric I use for any agency listing:

[B]Photos[/B]

* Is the girl attractive?

* Are selfies available (not just photoshopped images)?

* Is video available?

[B]Profile[/B]

* Is the girl in my preferred age range (early twenties)?

* Does the girl have my preferred traits (currently, slim blonde blue-eyed girls with natural breasts)?

* Does she speak English?

[B]Services[/B]

* Does she provide FK?

* Does she provide DFK (not required for me, but nice to have)?

* Does she provide OWO (not required for me, but nice to know)?

* Does she duo with another girl (not required for me, but nice to know)?

* Does she dress up in costumes like secretary or schoolgirl (not required for me, but nice to have)?

[B]Reviews[/B]

* How many reviews are available (ideally, at least three)?

* How far back do the reviews go (ideally, no more than two years)?

* Do the reviews seem real and not all written by the same person?

* Do any reviews state that the girl does not look like her pictures?

* Do any reviews confirm that the girl does indeed look like her pictures?

* Do any reviews mention that the girl was rude (although, this could just be bad chemistry between that reviewer and the girl)?

* Do any reviews confirm that the services listed were actually provided?

* Do any reviews confirm that characteristics mentioned in the profile?

* If there are negative reviews, are they far outweighed by the positive reviews in number and intensity?

* If a reviewer has spent multiple sessions with a girl, did the reviewer find the girl to be consistently good?

Currently, Diva lets me run through this entire rubric, and I would be cautious about any agencies that don't let you run through most of it.

Atanion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TimTheoDuncan;2518429]Hey all,

Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).

Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).

- end of May.

- end of July.

- end of October.

Any thoughts on the following.

- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).

- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?

- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?[/QUOTE]I would probably rule out May, UK has just entered another full lock-down, (all schools closed etc) which will continue until mid-Feb at least, this is bc hospitalizations are soaring once again with this new more infectious Covid variant. But UK was the first western country to start vaccinations and over a million people had already been vaccinated by end of December and Government are forecasting that by end of Feb all elderly and vulnerable will have been vaccinated.

By law the girls can't work at the moment as meeting inside a building with a stranger is not permitted, but some still are if they are desperate for money. I do not expect Brexit will change much regarding availability and those girls from EU already living here were allowed to apply to remain permanently anyway, but It may reduce the number of Romanians. There are plenty of Russian, Brazilian, Thai and other non EU working girls in London and they have always needed a visa to enter.

[QUOTE=MrMatrix;2518629]I would probably rule out May, UK has just entered another full lock-down, (all schools closed etc) which will continue until mid-Feb at least, this is bc hospitalizations are soaring once again with this new more infectious Covid variant. But UK was the first western country to start vaccinations and over a million people had already been vaccinated by end of December and Government are forecasting that by end of Feb all elderly and vulnerable will have been vaccinated.

By law the girls can't work at the moment as meeting inside a building with a stranger is not permitted, but some still are if they are desperate for money. I do not expect Brexit will change much regarding availability and those girls from EU already living here were allowed to apply to remain permanently anyway, but It may reduce the number of Romanians. There are plenty of Russian, Brazilian, Thai and other non EU working girls in London and they have always needed a visa to enter.[/QUOTE]Despite the further lockdown Diva girls seem to still be working. There are reports from Jan 6. And Diva only posts validated actual meetups. So interesting.

I doubt if this goes anywhere. Germany has a similar nut who introduces similar legislation that dies after debate, but it is always useful to keep up with proposals.

[URL]https://eachother.org.uk/why-the-sexual-exploitation-bill-will-make-vulnerable-women-less-safe/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2515461]No worries mate, that's part of the game.

That's being said, I might have an explanation for your experience when she was very into as you said....[/QUOTE]Yes, agreed, that's quite possible. Also, it was during the initial stages of Covid / Lockdown. She did mention that they were barely getting any appointments. So maybe, just maybe, she may have been horny as f* too. As much as it's a business for them, Id imagine they'd start missing it when things go super slow all on a sudden. And also, I tend to hit my vape (green) before (most) sessions, so 10% of it could have been my dick thinking over my brain X).

Anyway, Roberta's forever on my blacklist.

Hope you don't go through such shit on your future punts mate. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2519631]Despite the further lockdown Diva girls seem to still be working. There are reports from Jan 6. And Diva only posts validated actual meetups. So interesting.[/QUOTE]I think they pretty much leave it to the girls. And for that reason, I'm sure they're still open. Back during the initial lockdowns they were still functioning. Lot of the girls had scooted back to their home countries, but for those who were around, I think few of them were still working. (Not suggesting that either way is the right way to go during the pandemic).

On the Diva Page, if you check 'Now Available', it'll show who's working.

I think the only ones who really shut down are the legal, registered agencies. Like the one in Milton Keynes.

At the end of the day, Diva and the others just help get you in touch with girls. Like Adultwork with an operator on the other side who can guide you.

But of course, a with Covid and the new numbers, folks should stay safe.

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[QUOTE=TimTheoDuncan;2518429]Hey all,

Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).

Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).

- end of May.

- end of July.

- end of October.

Any thoughts on the following.

- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).

- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?

- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?[/QUOTE]I'd go for the end of July. Summer and vaccinations will have brought cases and deaths way down and everything will be open as much as possible, as happened summer 2020 (despite no vaccinations.).

Girls have been working all the way through, perhaps maybe not the first little bit of the first lockdown. I'd say 90% you see on Adultwork are still working now, ditto a lot of the escort agencies.

Avoid Romanians. They're mostly all bait and switch and give shit service, or the girl in the pictures and give shit service. Be suspicious of Brazilians, Portuguese, Italians. At the cheaper end of the spectrum, they're mostly just undercover Romanians.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2520546]I'd go for the end of July. Summer and vaccinations will have brought cases and deaths way down and everything will be open as much as possible, as happened summer 2020 (despite no vaccinations.).

Girls have been working all the way through, perhaps maybe not the first little bit of the first lockdown. I'd say 90% you see on Adultwork are still working now, ditto a lot of the escort agencies.

Avoid Romanians. They're mostly all bait and switch and give shit service, or the girl in the pictures and give shit service. Be suspicious of Brazilians, Portuguese, Italians. At the cheaper end of the spectrum, they're mostly just undercover Romanians.[/QUOTE]Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.

Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.

The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2520636]Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.

Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.

The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.[/QUOTE]Fair. I spend most of my time in the UK at the cheaper end of the market, so have encountered plenty of bad Romanians, or at the higher-end, with English girls.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2520636]Whoa. Hold on there....No bait and switch there.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Ro girls turn out to be a larger chunk of the working girl population in and around London so you tend to encounter far more bad apples. That being said, if you're smart about it and pick well reviewed Ro girls from agencies like Diva, you're most likely going to have have an amazing time. It's like saying I'm never going to go with Thais again because I've ended up having to meet a few who were never in the mood.

About Ro's posing as Brazilians etc. - I wasn't aware of this so not going to comment. May be true.

To the original question. My suggestion is that you go with Diva. I've tried multiple channels. By the time I had to leave London, Diva was the only one I was a regular with. So much so that I got the membership. Long story short, I can swear by them. Shortlist the girl that looks interesting, look at the reviews (Diva tends to be honest and keep the bad ones on too) and a then read up a few more on Adultwork. You're almost guaranteed to have an amazing time.

Another option to consider when in London (or indeed anywhere in the UK), is [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. Lots of pros use it, some semi-pros and lots of 'good girls. ' (And the usual scammers / online only / want £2000 a month).

If you invest in the time and effort, pre-trip, you could have a tight little British 18/19/20 year old in your hotel room all night for £250-300. A lot of the girls will agree to BBFSCIP, BBCIA if that's your thing and you approach it correctly (don't treat them like working girls, don't use mongering / escort terms.).

Discovered it late in my latest stay in the UK and with tier restrictions and lockdowns, only managed to meet one girl. That one girl was worth the one month's membership I ended up paying for.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2520636]Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.

Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.

The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.[/QUOTE]I second this.

Flory was my absolute favorite teen girl of all my trips. Young, inexperienced and submissive.

I have had great and not great experiences with Romanians, but no different than any other group. Other truly memorable awesome Romanians.

Melty.

Lalibella.

Stefsia. Before she got implants.

Brinley.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2521027]I second this.

Flory was my absolute favorite teen girl of all my trips. Young, inexperienced and submissive.

I have had great and not great experiences with Romanians, but no different than any other group. Other truly memorable awesome Romanians.

Melty.

Lalibella.

Stefsia. Before she got implants.

Brinley.

MM.[/QUOTE]I third this.

The last girl I fucked in Europe (before the pandemic) was Fortune, a Romanian girl from Diva. She was a joy to be with.

Mermaid, Noleta, and Henny are also Romanian Diva girls, and they are among my best punts ever. Hell, if I could merge Henny (looks like a fashion model) and Mermaid (kisses like a devil) together, that might be my dream girl.

I've started putting together a list of Diva girls I plan to fuck within minutes of returning to London. I've added a few Russians (my new interest), but there will be plenty of Romanian girls, too.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2511649]...Hard to beat London though. It's like going to a high-end buffet...[/QUOTE]Yeah London can be good for online escorts, some perhaps overpriced. But to me online escorts can be hit and miss. I much prefer going to a bar or club and actually meeting the girls.

I suspect london prostitutes like how they have control online. They control the hourly rate. There is No club competetion. They control the market. For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York, Rockafellas etc offer a great vibrant atmosphere to meet and select some great girls. Theres a thrill to the chase there. In Dubai 3 to 400 us can be all night or 4 to 6 hrs anyway. You'd be hard to beat that in London. Even German red light districts can turn up some real gems. All those stairs in Frankfurt can be a test but often there can be gold at the end of the rainbow. Currently under Covid I'm stuck in NZ which I'm finding is good. Many NZ Girls have flown home done their isolation and turned up at brothels here. No Covid here. All brothels and stripclubs open and overflowing. All legal. I can't understand all these police busts in London and France. The girls are far safer in a club or brothel than as online escorts. Here if theres a immigration issue, Immigartion turn up not the Police. Though there are a quite a few online escorts as well. One problem is because we have such a small population theres little Auckland chatter online. The girls know who we are)) And we got this Admin that just deletes posts at random. 2020 was the year of the Chinese Year of the Bar. China should reimburse us for missed lady time. Thanks Nickc.

[QUOTE=Nickc;2521764]Yeah London can be good for online escorts, some perhaps overpriced. But to me online escorts can be hit and miss. I much prefer going to a bar or club and actually meeting the girls.

I suspect london prostitutes like how they have control online. They control the hourly rate. There is No club competetion. They control the market. For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York, Rockafellas etc offer a great vibrant atmosphere to meet and select some great girls. Theres a thrill to the chase there. In Dubai 3 to 400 us can be all night or 4 to 6 hrs anyway. You'd be hard to beat that in London. Even German red light districts can turn up some real gems. All those stairs in Frankfurt can be a test but often there can be gold at the end of the rainbow. Currently under Covid I'm stuck in NZ which I'm finding is good. Many NZ Girls have flown home done their isolation and turned up at brothels here. No Covid here. All brothels and stripclubs open and overflowing. All legal. I can't understand all these police busts in London and France. The girls are far safer in a club or brothel than as online escorts. Here if theres a immigration issue, Immigartion turn up not the Police. Though there are a quite a few online escorts as well. One problem is because we have such a small population theres little Auckland chatter online. The girls know who we are)) And we got this Admin that just deletes posts at random. 2020 was the year of the Chinese Year of the Bar. China should reimburse us for missed lady time. Thanks Nickc.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with safety. There are two intolerant groups in most parts of the world. The moralistic right-wingers who do not want to observe anything sexual, and the left-wingers who have been told that all sex workers are trafficked and are not actually intelligent enough to evaluate data and determine that isn't true. There may be a small number of moderately intelligent law-and-order types who believe that the cash earned by a small portion of the participants in the commercial sex trade fuel the drug epidemic, and they are willing to destroy the entire industry just to "cure" that small but legitimate defect.

Publicly-visible clubs and incall locations with multiple ladies are easy for these opponent groups to find and publicize. Online escorting, while less economically efficient and therefore more expensive, are less visible to the public and are the trend in many places, especially the USA With respect to independent escorts and sugar babies. Large multistate escort agencies in the USA Do not exist because their cash accumulations are a convenient target for federal law enforcement. Governments themselves are incapable of regulating brothels. Most women hate the byzantine and oppressive rules at the legal Nevada brothels and they are no longer popular with customers after the ease of Vegas escorts operating independently.

Forget about changing the minds of those on the far-left or the far-right. It is better to just coexist with them and let them live in a world where they don't know that the lady walking through the hotel or sitting at the dinner table is a happy hooker. The you. K. Of course isn't as ridiculous on this subject as the USA But neither country will ever be as open-minded as New Zealand.

[QUOTE=Nickc;2521764] ... For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York...[/QUOTE]Haha. Man you brought back some good memories. Dubai was always a good time. Moscow especially. Remember getting the table with bottle service sometime back in 2010. If I remember right it was less than 250 USD with a bottle of JD. Best part was being swarmed by the hottest ladies working that day. I guess they assumed we were loaded. Worth the money. Almost like opting for the VIP booth at Platinum Lace in London.

I wonder if Dubai is still the same. Haven't been there in over 8-9 years. Abu Dhabi was good too. Meeting Pinays at the club and bonding before heading back to your room used to almost always guarantee an amazing punt. Hope things haven't changed.

Only problem with the UAE is that it's illegal. Doesn't impact the number of women in the clubs but I'd hate to be locked up, especially in the Middle East. But I guess they'd never really enforce it. The tourists coming in bring in all the money.

I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2527283]I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.[/QUOTE]May just be a temporary move to protect the girls, under current Covid National Lockdown laws they can be fined.

[URL]https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home[/URL]#meeting-other-people.

The main UK mongering site Adult Work has also blocked any feedback or reviews probably for the same reason.

[QUOTE=MrMatrix;2527405]May just be a temporary move to protect the girls, under current Covid National Lockdown laws they can be fined.

[URL]https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home[/URL]#meeting-other-people.

The main UK mongering site Adult Work has also blocked any feedback or reviews probably for the same reason.[/QUOTE]Ah, that's a great point. I suppose it can be awkward to have reviews saying strangers visited you at a time when the city is supposed to be on lockdown.

Like all things Covid, I hope this is a temporary thing.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2527435]...Like all things Covid, I hope this is a temporary thing.[/QUOTE]Yea, likely just a Covid move (hopefully) - to avoid any legal woes. Unfortunate. Funny enough, with Covid, in some ways it feels as though governments across the world are getting more restrictive by the day. I understand and appreciate what they may be trying to do with lockdowns, rules etc. - but from history. Once they get the freedom to restrict activities of the general population, they rarely let go off the privilege once the issue in hand has passed. Like spying on internet users in western democracies. Made sense post 9-11, I doubt it's ever going away. Hopefully no options for legal mongering don't get restricted.

Anyway, I digress.

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[QUOTE=Atanion;2527283]I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.[/QUOTE]Ata,

I am with you.

I used to look up the first review on a girl and see what year that was subtract that from the current year, and then add that number to her age.

It says she is 21, but she has 3 years of reviews, she is at least 24.

MM.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2520926]Another option to consider when in London (or indeed anywhere in the UK), is [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. Lots of pros use it, some semi-pros and lots of 'good girls. ' (And the usual scammers / online only / want 2000 a month).

If you invest in the time and effort, pre-trip, you could have a tight little British 18/19/20 year old in your hotel room all night for 250-300. A lot of the girls will agree to BBFSCIP, BBCIA if that's your thing and you approach it correctly (don't treat them like working girls, don't use mongering / escort terms.).

Discovered it late in my latest stay in the UK and with tier restrictions and lockdowns, only managed to meet one girl. That one girl was worth the one month's membership I ended up paying for.[/QUOTE]I second this! I've had 2 SBs in London that were a great time. One was an overnight each time I saw her. She would send me nude pics when I was out of town and put everyting to the side whenever I came to town. I personally don't mind if a girl is a pro / semi-pro if the money is the same. A normal SB will be ok with 200-300 for the night. Most pros might not be cool with that. Doing the numbers. A normal date takes about 5 hours (drinks, foods, hookah, drinks, hotel, bang. For example), that means about 40-60 pounds per hour. Most pros will turn that down. They can't rush you or upcharge you and they have to perform well, as they get paid after the act and not before. For me seeking is my goto in London. I've heard to good things about Diva, so that's on the list a a viable backup.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2516829]Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.

But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.

And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.

Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.

So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.

(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).

PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz its 103 to 2. Lol.[/QUOTE]Hi to everyone on this forum! I am planning to visit london for the very first time most probably in May. I am a noob and only have little experience in new england area and the strip clubs. Could you please let me know if these two are still in diva and above all hows the incall scenes in london? Safe? LEO activitiy? TIA. I prefer busty blondes. Any leads would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2535481]Hi to everyone on this forum! I am planning to visit london for the very first time most probably in May. I am a noob and only have little experience in new england area and the strip clubs. Could you please let me know if these two are still in diva and above all hows the incall scenes in london? Safe? LEO activitiy? TIA. I prefer busty blondes. Any leads would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Stick with the agencies as they are far more reliable. The better sites like Diva keep the list of girls current, if the site says that the girls are available that's it, when you call then you will find out if they are available.

May might be too early as lockdown will still be in effect although some restrictions will have been removed. Don't worry about law enforcement, prositution is not a crime, you just can't run a brothel so girls either work alone or 2 per apartment.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2535481]Hi to everyone on this forum! I am planning to visit london for the very first time most probably in May... .[/QUOTE]Stick with the agencies. Diva is the way to go. On their website, key in "Now Available" in the search bar. There's a filter to show who's working. Also, the lady / ladies who handle the booking are super sweet. If you can't decide, let them know what you're looking for and they'll give your suggestion.

As for the rules, do you know where you'll be staying? If it's a private place (or Airbnb maybe?) there's little to no chance anyone is going to enforce restrictions. As for hotels, not sure what the policy is. In general I haven't come across any reports where folks have been harassed for mongering during the restrictions. Most / All of the working ladies provide incall too. Stay safe, of course.

And it definitely helps that prostitution is legal in the UK.

So, looks like we're closer to the end of this miserable lockdown (hopefully).

Got me thinking, to all you fellow enthusiasts, of all the women you've met during your hobby in London, who has been your absolute favorite. Across agencies, spas, independents etc. Over the years. That one (or few) who absolutely blew your mind!

For me, it was at this home-spa in Hayes. She went by "YY" or "YaYa". The sex was fucking incredible and to top it off, her massage could put the certified pros to shame. But then, even without the massage, just the sex was out of the world. Met her multiple times over and it's with her that, for the first time in the hobby, I started taking up multi-hour sessions. Funny story. I recall drinking with with my colleagues at home one night and had to try hard to get them to leave just because she was all a I could think about. Ended up hiking 40 min to Hayes, got there at 1 and then spent the next 3 hours there.

It's funny how you meet these gems at places where you least expect it. The spa itself had mixed reviews, the girls you meet there were always a hit or miss. But YY. Man, just thinking about the experience makes my thoughts wobbly. I'll write down a detailed report soon.

Anyway, unfortunately, the spa shut down early last year, several weeks before the UK lockdown. I guess since she is Chinese, the mamasan knew what a shit show the pandemic was like in China. If I find any indicator in ads etc that they're open, I'll give you guys a shout so you can spam them and ask if YY is still around.

So, in all your years in the hobby, who's been that one who you cannot forget (in London)?

[QUOTE=Downandup;2535495]Stick with the agencies as they are far more reliable. The better sites like Diva keep the list of girls current, if the site says that the girls are available that's it, when you call then you will find out if they are available.

May might be too early as lockdown will still be in effect although some restrictions will have been removed. Don't worry about law enforcement, prositution is not a crime, you just can't run a brothel so girls either work alone or 2 per apartment.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2535580]Stick with the agencies. Diva is the way to go. On their website, key in "Now Available" in the search bar. There's a filter to show who's working. Also, the lady / ladies who handle the booking are super sweet. If you can't decide, let them know what you're looking for and they'll give your suggestion.

As for the rules, do you know where you'll be staying? If it's a private place (or Airbnb maybe?) there's little to no chance anyone is going to enforce restrictions. As for hotels, not sure what the policy is. In general I haven't come across any reports where folks have been harassed for mongering during the restrictions. Most / All of the working ladies provide incall too. Stay safe, of course.

And it definitely helps that prostitution is legal in the UK.[/QUOTE]Well I would be staying year long and with family 😔 so have to really find a outcall where I can go to a providers residence or a strip club backroom fun if its a thing over there. Mostly looking for a quickie after ofc hours. Wham bam thank you mam type of encounters. These diva girls have their own flats?

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2535596]Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.[/QUOTE]I was able to find Mermaid on their page, not Fortune though. To be honest I haven't met either. But I've read raving reviews here and on other sites.

As for verification, there's little to none required. That's what I love about London. I lived there for about a year with a studio to myself. I wish I could get back there soon.

Anyway, no verification. Diva is top notch. Babylon used to be good too. But I've had good experiences with them but one of the girls with whom I had a great time turned out to be terrible for another. Never / Rarely heard anything bad about Diva. Most of these girls work across agencies too. Some will be on Diva, Babylon, Peachy and Barracuda. And if Diva for example does not have real (not brushed up) pics / videos of the girl, you may end up finding them on the other website. With a little bit of effort you'll be able to see exactly who you're going to meet.

Also, sometimes the rates for the same girl may vary across agencies. Same girl, same experience, different price.

As for strip clubs, no clue. I did go to Platinum Lace with colleagues but I thought it was a rip-off. To be honest, I think strip clubs in general are a rip off. Why pay a couple hundred quid for someone to dance naked for you while these beauties at the agencies will treat you like a king for the same price.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2535613].. These diva girls have their own flats?[/QUOTE]Yea, most if not all girls provide incall in their apartments. In reality, you may find a few who offer just incall & won't come to your place. That's more likely.

Incall sounds like the way to go for you.

London's amazing! Hope you have an incredible stay.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2535596]Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.[/QUOTE]I brought a second phone with my monger name on it and I connect with Diva through Whatsapp. It worked great.

MM.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2535613]Well I would be staying year long and with family 😔 so have to really find a outcall where I can go to a providers residence or a strip club backroom fun if its a thing over there. Mostly looking for a quickie after ofc hours. Wham bam thank you mam type of encounters. These diva girls have their own flats?[/QUOTE]Go with Diva escorts. There are no legal problems with prostitution in London so there's no need for verification.

Find a girl you like on the Diva website, contact the agency, set up the day and time, and then go to the girl's flat using the instructions you'll receive. She will greet you at the door and let you into her flat. You will give her money. She will let you fuck her. That's it.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2535586]
So, in all your years in the hobby, who's been that one who you cannot forget (in London)?[/QUOTE]I can't pick one. The first Romanian I fucked in London was named "Tina". She was with Babylon Escorts at the time (she's no longer list). Amazing blowjob.

The vast majority of my mongering in London has been with Diva escorts. Henny (who has been on holiday for a long time so she may no longer turn tricks) is my all round "I could wife this girl" best fuck. Fortune was the most playful and fun. Mermaid was the best kisser and a total freak. Noleta probably had the best overall body, but she had breast implants put in which I think were unnecessary.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2536297]Go with Diva escorts. There are no legal problems with prostitution in London so there's no need for verification.

Find a girl you like on the Diva website, contact the agency, set up the day and time, and then go to the girl's flat using the instructions you'll receive. She will greet you at the door and let you into her flat. You will give her money. She will let you fuck her. That's it.[/QUOTE]You guys are great!

[QUOTE=Atanion;2536298]I can't pick one. The first Romanian I fucked in London was named "Tina". She was with Babylon Escorts at the time (she's no longer list). Amazing blowjob.

The vast majority of my mongering in London has been with Diva escorts. Henny (who has been on holiday for a long time so she may no longer turn tricks) is my all round "I could wife this girl" best fuck. Fortune was the most playful and fun. Mermaid was the best kisser and a total freak. Noleta probably had the best overall body, but she had breast implants put in which I think were unnecessary.[/QUOTE]Funny that Atanion overlap so much. I've had three of his four girls. Like him I can't pic one but damn they are all good. Some best on planet not just in London.

Best ass on planet earth = Fortune.

Best DFK on planet earth = Mermaid.

Best BBBJ on planet earth = Rivetta.

Best smile in London. Top five worldwide = Fortune.

Best large tits on planet earth = Kendall.

Horniest wildcat in London = Anna (Olina Escorts).

Most satisfying GFE in London = Cambria (ymmv).

Best all around package in London = Melty.

Hi guys,

I am a student here in London. Hence I don't have a lot of money to spend on Diva or anything. Please if anyone knows any cheap escorts, please let me know. Thank you.

[QUOTE=TheGreat2017;2536935]Hi guys,

I am a student here in London. Hence I don't have a lot of money to spend on Diva or anything. Please if anyone knows any cheap escorts, please let me know. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I don't know what you mean by low priced. But unless you are satisfied with fuglies strongly recommend not dredging around adúltwork. Likely to be disappointed. Best low end agency I know of is House of Divine. 70€/ halfhour. Never used them but others say it's a good low end option.

I guess the cheapest option in London is the Soho walk up's. Not sure how many of them are functional now!

There are lots of reviews on net, you can find, also make a map you should be able to walk around and find the working one.

They used to start with £20 for 15 minutes!! Just a bang! And you have to pay extra if you choose other services based on what the girl offers.

Its been a while I have been to those places, so I would suggest to do some home work!

[QUOTE=TheGreat2017;2536935]Hi guys,

I am a student here in London. Hence I don't have a lot of money to spend on Diva or anything. Please if anyone knows any cheap escorts, please let me know. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2537084]I guess the cheapest option in London is the Soho walk up's. Not sure how many of them are functional now!

There are lots of reviews on net, you can find, also make a map you should be able to walk around and find the working one.

They used to start with 20 for 15 minutes!! Just a bang! And you have to pay extra if you choose other services based on what the girl offers.

Its been a while I have been to those places, so I would suggest to do some home work![/QUOTE]I don't advise the Soho walk up. Yes it's cheap but you get why you pay for. I have spent a day there 2 years ago knocking a the doors to see how the girls look like and their service and I have done only 1 punt at the end and it was not good at all. Girls, places, vibe, all of that was disgusting.

There where some good looking ones in Soho!! At least 10 years ago!! Yes its a long time.

I knew at least 2 -3 , who was hot like the ones you see in diva and they knew their value to!!

Remember 20 £ was 15 minutes for just a bang!!

Its also an experience!! I would suggest in mongering we should try everything. And find which option is for us!!

Each people has different taste.

I guess in COVID situation is very unlikely these premises are open!! Also in recent year it seems many of them got closed, as per many posts by punders!

I should say, now a days I stick to diva or some known profiles in adult work!

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2537258]I don't advise the Soho walk up. Yes it's cheap but you get why you pay for. I have spent a day there 2 years ago knocking a the doors to see how the girls look like and their service and I have done only 1 punt at the end and it was not good at all. Girls, places, vibe, all of that was disgusting.[/QUOTE]

Even Prior to COVID, the rules in London changed for strip clubs. No touching of the women, and the women won't touch you below the belt!

Yes its gone to dogs!! Any one who has travel across UK, would suggest Manchester!! The cheapest and friendly strip club I have seen is there.

£10 for a lap dance! And even the mongering situation is cheaper, you can check the Manchester forum!

Saying all these, given current situation none of these will be open. The only option left is the escorts! At the moment.

Hope it helps!!

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2535596]Thanks mate! I dint see those two girls in diva site. Thats why asked. Is there extras friendly strip clubs in london which are easy on the wallet and have some lookers with good service? Sorry for naive questions. Do these agencies have hectic verification like P411 or would want real name passport etc? I am not comfortable with those. Thanks again for your prompt response.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2537778]Even Prior to COVID, the rules in London changed for strip clubs. No touching of the women, and the women won't touch you below the belt!

Yes its gone to dogs!!...[/QUOTE]Were strip clubs ever great in London? Thirty years ago I used to head down to Old Street where there were a cluster of strip clubs; just a bunch of men and a few naked women walking around collecting tips, no touching.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2537778]Even Prior to COVID, the rules in London changed for strip clubs. No touching of the women, and the women won't touch you below the belt!

Yes its gone to dogs!! Any one who has travel across UK, would suggest Manchester!! The cheapest and friendly strip club I have seen is there.

10 for a lap dance! And even the mongering situation is cheaper, you can check the Manchester forum!

Saying all these, given current situation none of these will be open. The only option left is the escorts! At the moment.

Hope it helps!![/QUOTE]Not sure when the last time you went to the Manchester clubs Mike but the local council have changed the rules.

*No intentional physical contact between performers and customers is allowed at any time. Before, during or after the performance, with the exception of leading a customer by the hand to, or from, an area permitted for performances of sexual entertainment in advance of, or following, a performance.

*Performers are not allowed to simulate sexual acts, use 'inappropriate, lewd, suggestive or sexually-graphic language', touch other performers in a sexual manner or use 'sex articles' such as sex toys.

*Customers must remain seated during performances and no photography is allowed.

* Performers are not allowed to meet, or have further contact with, customers outside of the premises.

They even have lines drawn in the floor to show how close they can be. The fore runner of social distancing!

My worst mongering story ever was in London. It was awful. Decade ago went to Soho walk-up. It was a classic clip joint, to a T. Lured in, no other customers, girl turned on me, huge bill presented to me, surrounded by thugs demanding payment. The works.

The one good thing I did was when they tried to scare me by saying they would call the police, I repeatedly said "yes, definitely call the police. They'll help us sort this out. " Shocking. They didn't call the police. Anyways 400 dollars later and shaken up I was allowed to leave. Worst. Ever.

Now London is my favorite destination in the world because I have more coin in my pocket, love a hot escort, and London has the hottest that I know of.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2538514]Were strip clubs ever great in London? Thirty years ago I used to head down to Old Street where there were a cluster of strip clubs; just a bunch of men and a few naked women walking around collecting tips, no touching.[/QUOTE]

The last time I was in a Manchester Strip club was in 2017 Dec. I found Long legs, cheap and a better option to start the evening, and then head to the Brothels.

As I am not a Strip Club fan (other than the ones in Colombia!

That is a news to me, the new rules!! I am looking forward to see how this will be once these facilities will be open by June.

Its coming to a point, to have a good time we have to head to Spain or Germany!! And if we have much ££ to Swiss!

Hmm.

[QUOTE=SkyPirate2;2538522]Not sure when the last time you went to the Manchester clubs Mike but the local council have changed the rules.

*No intentional physical contact between performers and customers is allowed at any time. Before, during or after the performance, with the exception of leading a customer by the hand to, or from, an area permitted for performances of sexual entertainment in advance of, or following, a performance.

*Performers are not allowed to simulate sexual acts, use 'inappropriate, lewd, suggestive or sexually-graphic language', touch other performers in a sexual manner or use 'sex articles' such as sex toys.

*Customers must remain seated during performances and no photography is allowed.

* Performers are not allowed to meet, or have further contact with, customers outside of the premises.

They even have lines drawn in the floor to show how close they can be. The fore runner of social distancing![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2538973]The last time I was in a Manchester Strip club was in 2017 Dec. I found Long legs, cheap and a better option to start the evening, and then head to the Brothels.

As I am not a Strip Club fan (other than the ones in Colombia!

That is a news to me, the new rules!! I am looking forward to see how this will be once these facilities will be open by June.

Its coming to a point, to have a good time we have to head to Spain or Germany!! And if we have much to Swiss!

Hmm.[/QUOTE]Interesting posts. I abandoned lap dancing about 3 years ago. Just don't really see the point of seeing it all but not being able to buy. Frustrating. Great on a night out with the lads after a few beers but when in serious mongering mode it can lead you to being overly horny and then accepting low quality in brothels to bust the nut.

I've written in this forum many times that unless you are a big fan of escorts, London is a brilliant city to visit as a tourist, but awful as a monger. The escort scene in London is amongst the best and most varied in the world. And it has improved a lot since some of the sites (Diva etc) have started showing selfies. That removes a little of bait and switch. Particularly if the girl has distinguishing features e. G. Tattoos which mean not possible to fake.

In the UK. If you want to select from a line up (as I do) Manchester is your best option. 6/7 brothels and no issues with LE.

Cosmopolitan undoubtedly the best.

As for Spain, Germany and Switzerland- you're right. German FKKs. For me still the best mongering experience in the world, long sunny days by a pool with over 100 naked women, food, gyms, saunas, steams, games, . Just the best. Spanish clubs are great fun. Have reported in many of the Spanish forums. Switzerland is just German FKKs at an expensive level. For me, not worth the extra. Look forward to returning to all of the above!!

This times 100. I honestly don't understand the appeal of strip clubs. I think maybe you're born with a gene for it or something.

You pay to get in, overpay for drinks, have aggressive ladies make overstated offers to you about how amazing it's going to be when they shake their ass in front of your face for the length of a very expensive song. Then ask you if you want another song. Then give you stink eye because you didn't give a tip on top of your 25 dollar song. Then the walk of shame back to your seat, stiffie in your pants subsiding.

Why? I just don't understand the appeal of this. Why would anyone subject themselves to this nonsense??

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2538980]

I've written in this forum many times that unless you are a big fan of escorts, London is a brilliant city to visit as a tourist, but awful as a monger. The escort scene in London is amongst the best and most varied in the world. And it has improved a lot since some of the sites (Diva etc) have started showing selfies. That removes a little of bait and switch. Particularly if the girl has distinguishing features e. G. Tattoos which mean not possible to fake.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2539049] Then the walk of shame back to your seat, stiffie in your pants subsiding.
... Why? I just don't understand the appeal of this. Why would anyone subject themselves to this nonsense??[/QUOTE]Spot On! Never got the logic. I know folks who monger and still choose to throw away cash at strip clubs. Never made any sense to me.

The one time I went to Platinum Lace with my colleagues. Just because my boss was in town. I didn't opt for a lap dance and my colleagues just assumed I was a nice guy maybe who didn't really appreciate the ethics of strip clubs. If only they knew.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2538980]Interesting posts. I abandoned lap dancing about 3 years ago. Just don't really see the point of seeing it all but not being able to buy....[/QUOTE]Lap dances make sense only if you have a hot babe waiting for you at home to take revenge on.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2539385]Lap dances make sense only if you have a hot babe waiting for you at home to take revenge on.[/QUOTE]I am a noob in mongering and I have my best experiences in strip clubs. I was in new england. Used to live near providence, Rhode Island and trust me I have got bbjs DFK even FS during lap dances. And some of these are really top notch girls in terms of looks and performance but definitely I had to lure them with extra money. Used to go during slow hours and even had couple of strippers who became close friends and used to come to my apartment as my family was not with me at that time. But then again in general 400 $ for 15 minutes in the champagne room can be considered costly and I have burnt my wallet for all these fun. As escorting is not legal in US and most use to stay in top notch hotels but LEO became hyper active in the area with frequent prostitution sting operations, I never had the guts to take the risk and ruin my career and personal life.

I am looking forward to my London long term trip.

Can any if you guys send me the link of the two escorts which are talked about the most in previous posts? Is Diva hit or miss or is each of the escorts consistent?

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2539414]I am a noob in mongering and I have my best experiences in strip clubs. I was in new england. Used to live near providence, Rhode Island and trust me I have got bbjs DFK even FS during lap dances. And some of these are really top notch girls in terms of looks and performance but definitely I had to lure them with extra money. Used to go during slow hours and even had couple of strippers who became close friends and used to come to my apartment as my family was not with me at that time. But then again in general 400 $ for 15 minutes in the champagne room can be considered costly and I have burnt my wallet for all these fun. As escorting is not legal in US and most use to stay in top notch hotels but LEO became hyper active in the area with frequent prostitution sting operations, I never had the guts to take the risk and ruin my career and personal life.

I am looking forward to my London long term trip.

Can any if you guys send me the link of the two escorts which are talked about the most in previous posts? Is Diva hit or miss or is each of the escorts consistent?[/QUOTE]As previously discussed the strip scene in London is LAME. Even tho strip in general is lame compared to the real thing London is nothing like the US. Strip in London sucks balls. And the escort incall scene the best on the planet IMO. So it makes the disparity wider.

Go to Diva and find a 150 or 200 an hour girl. You will not need to spend more than this. Check her attributes to make sure they match (ie naturals and slim say). Check her services to make sure they match. Like if it says FK that means she doesn't DFK or if it says OWC it means she doesn't BBBJ. Both these are deal breakers for me and many others.

Then read her reviews. Imperative you do this. If she has five or more 5 star reviews and no negatives you are likely good to go. Don't worry about 1 negative review if she has 30+ five star reviews. The reviews are absolutely key.

If you like natural brunettes you can't go wrong with Fortune or Mermaid. Fortune has better optics (like top 5 worldwide) but Mermaid has better GFE (like top 5 worldwide and undisputed best DFK on the planet). If you don't mind fake tits throw Noleta in the mix. But really anyone who appeals and has good reviews and you can't go wrong.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2539414].. As escorting is not legal in US and most use to stay in top notch hotels but LEO became hyper active in the area with frequent prostitution sting operations, I never had the guts to take the risk and ruin my career and personal life.

I am looking forward to my London long term trip...[/QUOTE]If you're going in to London as a Noob, you're going to come out feeling like a Legend.

As someone who was in your same boat. Moved to London, lived there for a year and moved back to the US. I'm jealous.

I'm waiting for things to go back to relative normalcy to come up with an excuse to visit again.

As for Diva, everything that the previous person posted. Shortlist based on your preferences, read reviews, dive in.

Alternatively, you could text their number with what you are looking for and they'll send you recommendations. Might feel weird the first time given you may never have done it in the US, but the folks on the other end of the line are super helpful. And texting them and getting recommendations is seamless.

Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2539414]I am a noob in mongering and I have my best experiences in strip clubs. I was in new england. Used to live near providence, Rhode Island and trust me I have got bbjs DFK even FS during lap dances. And some of these are really top notch girls in terms of looks and performance but definitely I had to lure them with extra money. Used to go during slow hours and even had couple of strippers who became close friends and used to come to my apartment as my family was not with me at that time. But then again in general 400 $ for 15 minutes in the champagne room can be considered costly and I have burnt my wallet for all these fun. As escorting is not legal in US and most use to stay in top notch hotels but LEO became hyper active in the area with frequent prostitution sting operations, I never had the guts to take the risk and ruin my career and personal life.

I am looking forward to my London long term trip.

Can any if you guys send me the link of the two escorts which are talked about the most in previous posts? Is Diva hit or miss or is each of the escorts consistent?[/QUOTE]RL19,

I worked in Providence for a couple weeks in 2012, this post brings back some memories. I spent most nights at Club Fantasies and always found the female attention I was seeking. My favorite was 20 year old Bridget, she was memorable as the girl with the braces.

I am not sure what year you were there or what club but I never had to pay more than $150, and I don't remember there being a time limit. But I can say there a number of really attractive girls, and I am very picky.

As for London I am fan of Diva also. My experience is hit or miss. Sometimes you connect with a girl and sometimes you don't. While I agree a well reviewed girl is not likely to e bad that doesn't mean she will be awesome for you. I actually sometimes choose girls with no reviews because I like the newbies. Same thing sometimes they are amazing and some times they are not.

The great thing about Diva is in a club you only have access to the 20 - 40 girls present. With Diva you have access to the the 400 girls in London. So there is likely some that hit your beauty standard and you will connect with. I have had numerous amazing girls and repeated with them as often as I could.

Since you will be there long term, take your time and try them out.

My time was short I would sometime book a girl for an hour, rest for and hour and book another girl. I would do this for 4 or 5 times in a night.

Good luck to you and report back on your adventures.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2539606]RL19,

I worked in Providence for a couple weeks in 2012, this post brings back some memories. I spent most nights at Club Fantasies and always found the female attention I was seeking. My favorite was 20 year old Bridget, she was memorable as the girl with the braces.

I am not sure what year you were there or what club but I never had to pay more than $150, and I don't remember there being a time limit. But I can say there a number of really attractive girls, and I am very picky.

As for London I am fan of Diva also. My experience is hit or miss. Sometimes you connect with a girl and sometimes you don't. While I agree a well reviewed girl is not likely to e bad that doesn't mean she will be awesome for you. I actually sometimes choose girls with no reviews because I like the newbies. Same thing sometimes they are amazing and some times they are not.

The great thing about Diva is in a club you only have access to the 20 - 40 girls present. With Diva you have access to the the 400 girls in London. So there is likely some that hit your beauty standard and you will connect with. I have had numerous amazing girls and repeated with them as often as I could.

Since you will be there long term, take your time and try them out.

My time was short I would sometime book a girl for an hour, rest for and hour and book another girl. I would do this for 4 or 5 times in a night.

Good luck to you and report back on your adventures.

MM.[/QUOTE]I spent more than 6 years 2014-2020 over there but I got the opportunity for mongering from 2019. So def I wasn't there back in 2012. Club fantasies used to be the best at your time but it went downhill up until 2019 when things started to change and they brought back some of the sexiest girls. As of now club desire and foxy lady were the top two clubs over there. I had a free entry card in foxy lady. The charges I was referring was for club desire. I use to go to fantasies mostly as they offered two for one dances on certain days. And your hands can roam freely during dances. Some girls were really horny and if I could hit their sweet spots they use to start DFK without even asking. CR rooms were still 140 $ but depending on the girl it could go to 300 $ but I have got FS for 140 as well. I had a Brazilian and one All american stripper friend each early 20's and 36 dd all natural whom I use to bring to my apartment which was like 20 minutes drive from Providence in the Massachusetts border. And then it used to be a great night. Oh man I really miss those days. The pandemic ruined the last few months of my stay. But I am pretty sure that with family around things are going to be much more difficult in London if my office trips goes as per plan. I am planning to take apartment at least in zone 5 and my office is going to be in Canary wharf so that I can save some mongering money. Mongering is great but creates a big hole in the wallet.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2539414]I am a noob in mongering and I have my best experiences in strip clubs. I was in new england. Used to live near providence, Rhode Island and trust me I have got bbjs DFK even FS during lap dances. And some of these are really top notch girls in terms of looks and performance but definitely I had to lure them with extra money. Used to go during slow hours and even had couple of strippers who became close friends and used to come to my apartment as my family was not with me at that time. But then again in general 400 $ for 15 minutes in the champagne room can be considered costly and I have burnt my wallet for all these fun. As escorting is not legal in US and most use to stay in top notch hotels but LEO became hyper active in the area with frequent prostitution sting operations, I never had the guts to take the risk and ruin my career and personal life.

I am looking forward to my London long term trip.

Can any if you guys send me the link of the two escorts which are talked about the most in previous posts? Is Diva hit or miss or is each of the escorts consistent?[/QUOTE]Way back in the 1970's I loved strip clubs. On occasion I used to soil myself getting lap dances. Some were actually available for take out. However, the girls in the brothels in NYC back then were much cheaper and similar in quality. Today strip clubs hold no allure for me; too much time wasting looking at what I should just be banging at home paying by the hour.

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Hi friend.

Any massage parlor working now a days in London?

None as per the current guide lines.

[QUOTE=SirfIndian;2544873]Hi friend.

Any massage parlor working now a days in London?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SirfIndian;2544873]Hi friend.

Any massage parlor working now a days in London?[/QUOTE]Depends. If you are looking for legit massage parlors, most if not all are shut.

If you are looking for extras, some of the good ones I used to go to are shut too. My favorite Chinese one shut a few weeks before even London went into lockdown. Hopefully they open up again.

If you are looking for services, some of the girls at Olina Oriental can be a hit or miss. But it's not a massage joint. Folks here can advise on who is the best at the agency. I haven't had too many great experiences. Likely because of the women I picked.

With the possibility of travel to Europe looking like a thing, I'm reading reviews of the hobby scene in London. It looks like there's been a price hike? Girls who used to charge 150 for an hour are now up to 200 or more? Is this simply a desire to thin the herd to reduce traffic during a pandemic? If so, I hope prices go back down by the time I get back to London.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2554507]With the possibility of travel to Europe looking like a thing, I'm reading reviews of the hobby scene in London. It looks like there's been a price hike? Girls who used to charge 150 for an hour are now up to 200 or more? Is this simply a desire to thin the herd to reduce traffic during a pandemic? If so, I hope prices go back down by the time I get back to London.[/QUOTE]I have my eyes on Diva site and yes I second that. Now very few 150/ HR option. There is a 50 quid hike in the avg price. In the girls on vacation segment I see plenty gorgeous girls with 150 quid option. May be they would jack up the price on their return? Who knows. 200 quid is pricey but then again to his own.

[QUOTE=SirfIndian;2544873]Hi friend.

Any massage parlor working now a days in London?[/QUOTE]Type this on google and it would take you to an amazing site. Go through and you would get many.

I've not been punting around much during the pandemic, but two options which I have enjoyed (and which remain open) are Fantasia, on 106 Charring Cross Road and (in Soho) 52 Greek Street, where a walk in in the basement of the shop above it is still in operation. You can get a happy ending at Fantasia, but anything more depends on the girl. I've had a nude happy ending there that set me back about £100 all told for one hour, but the lady in question rebuffed my suggestion of OWO / CIM ending sadly. Still, can't complain about the service or the lady in question, who was thin, large breasted and cover in dragon tatts.

On the Soho side of things I've had several half hour bookings with Italian Anna, 30, who has reviews all over the place and continues to give cracking service. I enjoy the fact that unlike a lot of the other ladies she doesn't entirely shave her Bush, plus the fact that she gives great CBJ. Damage is £90 for F / S, which also includes a massage, CBJ and plenty of foreplay. She was last working Mondays, Wednesdays and the weekends at 52 Greek St, though their rota isn't stable ATM.

On a side note, there's no Amsterdam forum here, so I thought I would ask my UK compatriots who go to Amsterdam or London for mongering: has anyone heard of an escort who offers a good couple's experience? I've got two friends in their mid-40's who want to see an escort together as a birthday treat to the bloke. Older women are okay, they'd ideally like someone who can massage and give good head over a porn star bouncing like a maniac. The RLD in Amsterdam is such a pot luck draw I thought I might have more luck on this board.

[QUOTE=RussianLover19;2554534]Type this on google and it would take you to an amazing site. Go through and you would get many.[/QUOTE]Ah, so much young and lovely pussy which I will never be able to afford and / or have the time to visit. And I see one unfortunate guy had an interesting time with a transvestite who was pretending to be a woman in their Adultwork profile.

What's the next level up from divas for those looking for something even better or similar alternatives?

Hi!

I'm planning to visit London soon & would be there for few months on an business assignment. I have zero idea about mongering scene in London, kindly share your valuable suggestions. I'm little tight on budget, so looking for cheaper options.

Can help you back with contacts & information from India.

Hi mate,

Where will you be staying in London, and are you looking for Incall or outcall?

You are on a tight budget?? How much are you looking for 30 minutes or 60 minutes?

Cheers.

Mike.

[QUOTE=FriendlyWolf;2556337]Hi!

I'm planning to visit London soon & would be there for few months on an business assignment. I have zero idea about mongering scene in London, kindly share your valuable suggestions. I'm little tight on budget, so looking for cheaper options.

Can help you back with contacts & information from India.[/QUOTE]

You have to make some space in your inbox!

[QUOTE=FriendlyWolf;2556337]Hi!

I'm planning to visit London soon & would be there for few months on an business assignment. I have zero idea about mongering scene in London, kindly share your valuable suggestions. I'm little tight on budget, so looking for cheaper options.

Can help you back with contacts & information from India.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2556157]What's the next level up from divas for those looking for something even better or similar alternatives?[/QUOTE]Try Agency Allure. I'm not sure if they are better than a well-reviewed Diva girl, but they will happily take more of your money.

[QUOTE=FriendlyWolf;2556337]Hi!

I'm planning to visit London soon & would be there for few months on an business assignment. I have zero idea about mongering scene in London, kindly share your valuable suggestions. I'm little tight on budget, so looking for cheaper options.

Can help you back with contacts & information from India.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that you'll find lower cost options on places like AdultWork, but you'll probably spend more time dealing with ladies who ghost you. Sites like Diva are more expensive, but you'll save time due to their superb scheduling and communication skills. So, it depends on if you want to save money or save time.

Haven't come across a better agency thanm Diva. Other than some gems from adultwork, but they are not consistent.

SeekingArangement, might be a good option, usually goes between 250- 500.

I would suggest keep away from the normal pro-looking ones, they are just upselling in these platforms.

You will find lots of 19-21 year old, university students!! Again, they do it only for a short time, a girl I meet, doesn't work any more!

Good luck.

Keep safe.

Cheers.

Mike.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2556157]What's the next level up from divas for those looking for something even better or similar alternatives?[/QUOTE]

I second on that!

If you have a minumum budget of 100 £ for 30 minutes, there are few left to score, but worth to give a try.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2556590]Keep in mind that you'll find lower cost options on places like AdultWork, but you'll probably spend more time dealing with ladies who ghost you. Sites like Diva are more expensive, but you'll save time due to their superb scheduling and communication skills. So, it depends on if you want to save money or save time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2556411]You have to make some space in your inbox![/QUOTE]Hi!

Cleared the inbox.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2556409]Hi mate,

Where will you be staying in London, and are you looking for Incall or outcall?

You are on a tight budget?? How much are you looking for 30 minutes or 60 minutes?

Cheers.

Mike.[/QUOTE]Hi!

I'll mostly prefer outcall, provided the place is safe.

I've no idea about what's the costing of mongering in London, so can't comment on that, but 100 for a short time seems reasonable.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2556590]Keep in mind that you'll find lower cost options on places like AdultWork, but you'll probably spend more time dealing with ladies who ghost you. Sites like Diva are more expensive, but you'll save time due to their superb scheduling and communication skills. So, it depends on if you want to save money or save time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely consider that.

Been a silent reader for long time but not new to mongering. I used AW a lot as I don't travel much to London but when I do I use the Diva. Diva is too convenient process and used to be within the budget like £100 for 30 minutes. AW in my area, Have seen some absolute gems pre covid but it's now become hard to find a good one.

Never tried SA as I felt this is much helpful for sugar daddies which is a expensive part but seen very good profiles.

I invested time on AH as well but couldn't find a genuine contact so gave up on it.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2556732]I second on that!

If you have a minumum budget of 100 for 30 minutes, there are few left to score, but worth to give a try.[/QUOTE]

Which part of London is the best area to stay in if you're just looking for incalls?

[QUOTE=Gigraz;2556885]Been a silent reader for long time but not new to mongering. I used AW a lot as I don't travel much to London but when I do I use the Diva. Diva is too convenient process and used to be within the budget like 100 for 30 minutes. AW in my area, Have seen some absolute gems pre covid but it's now become hard to find a good one.

Never tried SA as I felt this is much helpful for sugar daddies which is a expensive part but seen very good profiles.

I invested time on AH as well but couldn't find a genuine contact so gave up on it.[/QUOTE]I swear by Diva — in fact think I introduced half the guys here to it. LOL. — but I love SA also for different reasons. Diva is great for scheduling an hour of sex with a girl. And I mean GREAT. But if you want a full simulated girlfriend experience of 4-5 hours including dinner and dancing and room time the Seeking is where it's at. It takes a TON of effort to weed thru all the scammers and cam girls and whatever. But when you find a gem it is soooo worth it.

Expect to pay somewhat more than you would for an hour with a diva girl but it's for a whole evening. I've had two amazing finds in London — one a Viet and a duo with Columbianas. And over a dozen in the states. There is an art to Seeking tho. You can't treat the quality girls like hookers or they will ghost in no time. There is a thread for SA found way down at the bottom under General / Dating agencies.

Paddington, baker street, earls court!

Most of the incall in Diva, you can manage from these locations!

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2556920]Which part of London is the best area to stay in if you're just looking for incalls?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2557011]Paddington, baker street, earls court!

Most of the incall in Diva, you can manage from these locations![/QUOTE]I would add Bayswater to that list. Seen more Diva girls plus an Allure and Olina girls in Bayswater. The "Park" brand hotels are small but clean and nice and several Park hotels there.

Thank you Mike and Steve, appreciated.

All the countries I want to visit, I'm expecting to be on the governments red list, so might have to make do with a trip to London for now.

Wow duo with Colombianas. That's one of my dream and still looking to fulfil it. I had a duo with Thai's long back which was unforgettable, way before I joined this site. Will write an FR if I encounter one again.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2556964]I swear by Diva in fact think I introduced half the guys here to it. LOL. but I love SA also for different reasons. Diva is great for scheduling an hour of sex with a girl. And I mean GREAT. But if you want a full simulated girlfriend experience of 4-5 hours including dinner and dancing and room time the Seeking is where it's at. It takes a TON of effort to weed thru all the scammers and cam girls and whatever. But when you find a gem it is soooo worth it.

Expect to pay somewhat more than you would for an hour with a diva girl but it's for a whole evening. I've had two amazing finds in London one a Viet and a duo with Columbianas. And over a dozen in the states. There is an art to Seeking tho. You can't treat the quality girls like hookers or they will ghost in no time. There is a thread for SA found way down at the bottom under General / Dating agencies.[/QUOTE]

I second that. Paddington is like a centre. It has good rated hotels near to Station.

[QUOTE=Mike963;2557011]Paddington, baker street, earls court!

Most of the incall in Diva, you can manage from these locations![/QUOTE]

Can someone please review the sites vivastreet and eurogirlescort. The profiles on there genuine?

Any experiences and tips?

[QUOTE=Gigraz;2557136]Wow duo with Colombianas. That's one of my dream and still looking to fulfil it. I had a duo with Thai's long back which was unforgettable, way before I joined this site. Will write an FR if I encounter one again.[/QUOTE]It's quite rare to hear mulitple members recommend same site, bet it; s worth a try. Just to confim, dvescort right?

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2557189]It's quite rare to hear mulitple members recommend same site, bet it; s worth a try. Just to confim, dvescort right?[/QUOTE][URL]Www.divaescort.com[/URL]

The reasons many of us like them are numerous:

There Is no bait and switch. Always the girl in the pics.

They list all the services per girl. You know exactly what you are getting.

They post good and bad reviews.

All the girls prefer them over other services.

The booking and communication is top notch.

Definitely READ the REVIEWS. Only go with consistently well reviewed girls.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2557203][URL]Www.divaescort.com[/URL]

The reasons many of us like them are numerous:

There Is no bait and switch. Always the girl in the pics.

They list all the services per girl. You know exactly what you are getting.

They post good and bad reviews.

All the girls prefer them over other services.

The booking and communication is top notch.

Definitely READ the REVIEWS. Only go with consistently well reviewed girls.[/QUOTE]It's really great to hear back from a senior member I'll definately try it out when I arrive in london later this year.

All you mentioned just reminds me of Amour-russe in paris back BTW 2010-2016 apx, it was my fav escort site sadly disappeared one day.

[QUOTE=Gigraz;2557136]Wow duo with Colombianas. That's one of my dream and still looking to fulfil it. I had a duo with Thai's long back which was unforgettable, way before I joined this site. Will write an FR if I encounter one again.[/QUOTE]Here is the FR I posted in the Seeking thread on this. Enjoy!

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2504234&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2504234.

It’s about halfway down the page. #1167

Excellent FR Steve I was actually motivated by reading your FR and will surely be looking for threesome adventures again. 350 for 2 great gorgeous girls is a lucky deal. I always had this on mind that when you are planning for threesome let the main girl choose the other by this they both be very comfortable which will benefit a lot compared to when I choose the second one.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2557300]Here is the FR I posted in the Seeking thread on this. Enjoy!

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2504234&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2504234.

Its about halfway down the page. #1167[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2557011]Paddington, baker street, earls court!

Most of the incall in Diva, you can manage from these locations![/QUOTE]Hey is that the Baker Street in the song by Gerry Rafferty? I like the song and it seems I'd like the street as well.

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Lads. Please help with your experience in Europe. I'm a 20 year veteran of Asia (25 year vet of ISG) forced by Covid to relocate to London. I have loved my years in Southeast Asia, especially Jakarta, Bangkok, Vietnam. What in Europe is the closest to those experiences of lots of 18-25 years old girls who aren't hard core professionals, but rather needy students and semi-pros?

I know nothing compares to SEA, but can I find submissive, sweet girls in the UK? What about Eastern Europe that will be open by in 6 months? The FKK scene seems too professional.

Thanks. Let me know if you need any tips on the closed Asian scenes.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2558749]Lads. Please help with your experience in Europe. I'm a 20 year veteran of Asia (25 year vet of ISG) forced by Covid to relocate to London. I have loved my years in Southeast Asia, especially Jakarta, Bangkok, Vietnam. What in Europe is the closest to those experiences of lots of 18-25 years old girls who aren't hard core professionals, but rather needy students and semi-pros?

I know nothing compares to SEA, but can I find submissive, sweet girls in the UK? What about Eastern Europe that will be open by in 6 months? The FKK scene seems too professional.

Thanks. Let me know if you need any tips on the closed Asian scenes.[/QUOTE]

Well, FKK is paid sex but it is far away from a hardcore arrangement, like you might think. But from what I understand is that for you the FKK scene seems too professional.

Considering you are 25 year vet of ISG (e.g your current age) the only alternative I could think of meeting your requirement (e.g 18-25 yo, students, semi-pros) is to seek a sugar baby / sugar daddy arrangement. But you have not mentioned how much are you willing to pay in your previous post.

Another alternatives is to visit a swingerparty. But for this you will need to be lucky or good looking, fit, reasonably tall with body to die for to get the target meeting your requirements.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2556920]Which part of London is the best area to stay in if you're just looking for incalls?[/QUOTE]Honestly just about anywhere in Zone 1. London is pretty easy to get around, and most of the agencies focus on central. I'd stay in an area where there's plenty of things to do (pubs, restaurants, etc.) and not worry about the incalls; you won't get turned down based on where you're staying as long as you're not way out in the sticks (Zone 3+ or so).

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2559644]Honestly just about anywhere in Zone 1. London is pretty easy to get around, and most of the agencies focus on central. I'd stay in an area where there's plenty of things to do (pubs, restaurants, etc.) and not worry about the incalls; you won't get turned down based on where you're staying as long as you're not way out in the sticks (Zone 3+ or so).[/QUOTE]Brilliant, thank you. Still hoping by to get abroad at the start of July but it's nice to see I can have a great time in London as a last resort.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2558749] experiences of lots of 18-25 years old girls who aren't hard core professionals, but rather needy students..Let me know if you need any tips on the closed Asian scenes.[/QUOTE]So, Disclaimer first. SEA was and will always remain a goldmine (hopefully). You're not going to find that anywhere here. That aside, Diva's got working girls who may fit the age range, adultwork is a good source overall but could be a hit or miss.

Lastly, there was this home massage spot in Hayes. On occasion, I'the find the prettiest Asians there who'd provide incredible service. But from all the reviews I've read, that place's been a Hit or miss for most folks. YMMV - but, for me, every single session there was EPIC. The mamasan closed doors sometime when COVID was getting started. But prior to that, she had FOB Asian girls. Much like meeting amateurs in SEA who are new to the game. Message me and I'll try and locate the old ad / number. Have some good memories there. I've moved out of London so not sure if the apartment / spa's still open. But no harm trying. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2559644]Honestly just about anywhere in Zone 1. London is pretty easy to get around, and most of the agencies focus on central. I'd stay in an area where there's plenty of things to do (pubs, restaurants, etc.) and not worry about the incalls; you won't get turned down based on where you're staying as long as you're not way out in the sticks (Zone 3+ or so).[/QUOTE]Even zone two can be a bit of a slog for some of these girls. Basically anything more than a 30 min journey can put them off, especially if your booking is just a 1 HR session while your location will take them 30 minutes each way. I like to stay in East London for the colorful night life, and while there are plenty of options around locally, most of the girls who are based out of central (Paddington) or West (Kensington), were reluctant to make that journey. However if you are in the 250 GBP+ price range, then most will take you up on it.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2556920]Which part of London is the best area to stay in if you're just looking for incalls?[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter. Anywhere in Zone 1-4. Zone 4 would be cheaper to stay at (more cash to monger).

Given you prefer Incalll anyway, doesn't matter. Let's say you're in Zone 4, it might take you about an hour to get to the address v / s 15-20 min in Zone 1. But then, I'd assume. Traveling all the way thinking / hoping that you're going to have your mind blown is exciting in itself.

I stayed in an around Notting Hill. Did both in & outcalls. Zone 1 has its perks if you're thinking with your the* at 1 in the night and need a fix. But that reflected in my bank balance too.

Long story short. Stay anywhere. Close to the tube. Bayswater, Earls etc are going to be your best / most common spots for incall.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2559909]Doesn't matter. Anywhere in Zone 1-4. Zone 4 would be cheaper to stay at (more cash to monger).

Given you prefer Incalll anyway, doesn't matter. Let's say you're in Zone 4, it might take you about an hour to get to the address v / s 15-20 min in Zone 1. But then, I'd assume. Traveling all the way thinking / hoping that you're going to have your mind blown is exciting in itself.

I stayed in an around Notting Hill. Did both in & outcalls. Zone 1 has its perks if you're thinking with your the* at 1 in the night and need a fix. But that reflected in my bank balance too.

Long story short. Stay anywhere. Close to the tube. Bayswater, Earls etc are going to be your best / most common spots for incall.[/QUOTE]If I were to monger in London, which could very well happen as I believe London would open up much sooner than Germany, I would choose outcall rather than incall as there would be no lurking boyfriends to pull some nasty surprises.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2560109]If I were to monger in London, which could very well happen as I believe London would open up much sooner than Germany, I would choose outcall rather than incall as there would be no lurking boyfriends to pull some nasty surprises.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. All my best punts were outcall. I recall having an amazing punt with one of the Babylon girls. Outcall - and someone else on this forum had a miserable one with the same girl. Incall.

Even that aside, the very idea of not having to travel, feeling comfortable in your own space and the option to drink / smoke right before your girl gets home is worth the extra ££.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2560207]Agree 100%. All my best punts were outcall. I recall having an amazing punt with one of the Babylon girls. Outcall - and someone else on this forum had a miserable one with the same girl. Incall.

Even that aside, the very idea of not having to travel, feeling comfortable in your own space and the option to drink / smoke right before your girl gets home is worth the extra.[/QUOTE]Funny, I'm the total opposite. I can't stand the idea of having to fork over extra cash for some taxi or what have you, or having some SP know where I live. People might spot you slipping in or out of a knocking shop but then you just go home, whereas your neighbors seeing a procession of girls waltzing in and out of your pad won't take long to put two and two together. Then there's the theft issue, having to clean a place up (hey, maybe that's just me) etc etc. Far too much effort, I much prefer a good incall.

While I was browsing Adultwork looking at post-lockdown bed mates (reverse AW bookings are back, thank the Gods), something struck me for the first time. My first formative P4 P experiences were Amsterdam's RLD and then Edinburgh's sauna industry, and that seems to be the model I've stuck with ever since. Though I've subsequently punted in Germany, China and other parts of the UK, its always been through indies or brothels / massage parlours, I. E. Involving me turning up to a place where I know full-time professional service providers operate, guaranteeing a booking.

I find it very secure and reassuring I guess, but I've always enjoyed reading the punter's field reports where the situation was a bit more informal and / or ambiguous. That is to say, a report where a non-pro suddenly and unexpectedly reveals she very much "will", or a more subtle situation where a girl kinda-sorta-maybe puts out for compensation of some kind, but there's an enjoyable frisson to the whole thing on both parties' sides. I suspect that's why so many guys enjoy sugar babes, though for me it is more fun to read about the unexpected shags that can result spontaneously. I remember reading one US escort talking about her pre-hooking life, who related how she was hired to house sit as a student once, when the guy she was doing it for got back a day or two early, and she ended up banging him on the unspoken understanding that she'd get her full fee for the house-sitting. Sadly that is the kind of thing that never happens to me; p.

I suspect the tension between soft / informal sex work and the regular thing boils down to the eroticism of knowing you're definitely going to get laid (those last few steps as you trot up to the door / window of the building housing the SP / s you're going to enjoy seeing always get my pulse racing) vs the novelty factor of the unexpected, which is such an important thing for people's sex lives. I'm still a bit jealous of the guys whose life experience includes getting all their questions about what some maid / secretary / hairdresser / insert female acquaintance here looks like naked answered; and even more of anyone who's gotten unexpected GFE-lite experiences from non- or semi-pros, the lucky bastards.

The closest (not very.) I've come to any sort of spontaneous or informal action was many years ago, an older British SP who couldn't work from home as she still had kids there, and so used to offer a service where she'd offer you outdoors BBBJ / CIM in the woods at the end of town (Leeds in this case). She wasn't the best looking lady I've ever been with (no oil painting myself.), but she did come through when I took her up on it. I even got picked up in her massive station wagon and driven off to the location itself. It was a pretty unique experience that I still remember over 10 years later, though obviously the lady giving me the head in question was still a full-time professional.

[QUOTE=SonnyJim2;2560486]Funny, I'm the total opposite. I can't stand the idea of having to fork over extra cash for some taxi or what have you, or having some SP know where I live. People might spot you slipping in or out of a knocking shop but then you just go home, whereas your neighbors seeing a procession of girls waltzing in and out of your pad won't take long to put two and two together. Then there's the theft issue, having to clean a place up (hey, maybe that's just me) etc etc. Far too much effort, I much prefer a good incall.[/QUOTE]Agree w Sonny. In some countries outcall is best. But in London, with Diva, I always do incall! There is nothing like going to a girls room! Maybe she gets some heels out of her closet to fuck you in (Melty. Red ones) or wine from the fridge to share (Noleta) or who knows — both wine and Thai jerky from the fridge (Anna at Olina). Just being in their space is intoxicating for me. Incall only in London for me.

[QUOTE=SonnyJim2;2560498]While I was browsing Adultwork looking at post-lockdown bed mates (reverse AW bookings are back, thank the Gods), something struck me for the first time. My first formative P4 P experiences were Amsterdam's RLD and then Edinburgh's sauna industry, and that seems to be the model I've stuck with ever since. Though I've subsequently punted in Germany, China and other parts of the UK, its always been through indies or brothels / massage parlours, I. E. Involving me turning up to a place where I know full-time professional service providers operate, guaranteeing a booking.

I find it very secure and reassuring I guess, but I've always enjoyed reading the punter's field reports where the situation was a bit more informal and / or ambiguous. That is to say, a report where a non-pro suddenly and unexpectedly reveals she very much "will", or a more subtle situation where a girl kinda-sorta-maybe puts out for compensation of some kind, but there's an enjoyable frisson to the whole thing on both parties' sides. I suspect that's why so many guys enjoy sugar babes, though for me it is more fun to read about the unexpected shags that can result spontaneously. I remember reading one US escort talking about her pre-hooking life, who related how she was hired to house sit as a student once, when the guy she was doing it for got back a day or two early, and she ended up banging him on the unspoken understanding that she'd get her full fee for the house-sitting. Sadly that is the kind of thing that never happens to me; p.

I suspect the tension between soft / informal sex work and the regular thing boils down to the eroticism of knowing you're definitely going to get laid (those last few steps as you trot up to the door / window of the building housing the SP / s you're going to enjoy seeing always get my pulse racing) vs the novelty factor of the unexpected, which is such an important thing for people's sex lives. I'm still a bit jealous of the guys whose life experience includes getting all their questions about what some maid / secretary / hairdresser / insert female acquaintance here looks like naked answered; and even more of anyone who's gotten unexpected GFE-lite experiences from non- or semi-pros, the lucky bastards.

The closest (not very.) I've come to any sort of spontaneous or informal action was many years ago, an older British SP who couldn't work from home as she still had kids there, and so used to offer a service where she'd offer you outdoors BBBJ / CIM in the woods at the end of town (Leeds in this case). She wasn't the best looking lady I've ever been with (no oil painting myself.), but she did come through when I took her up on it. I even got picked up in her massive station wagon and driven off to the location itself. It was a pretty unique experience that I still remember over 10 years later, though obviously the lady giving me the head in question was still a full-time professional.[/QUOTE]London is the perfect place to take your chances because you always have backup. For example, I tried my hand at pure civilian dating with a hot Peruvian I met at a dance club. We had a nice dinner but I didn't close the deal. It was 11:45 PM and I was on the street after she left. I texted Diva theee girls from my list who I might hope to see and they said Flory would see me. I was in Flory's bed before 12:15! I shit you not. So you can always take a chance and have a diva girl as backup.

Same thing another time. I have a Malaysian MILF I like but "we just friends". At 1 AM after dancing I booked Mermaid at 1:45 AM and she was down to meet. So you can have your civvy cake and eat it too.

If you are not brave enough to go full civvy then Sugar Babies is where it's at. With a sugar baby you have the allure of a non sure thing but a sweetener that stacks the odds in your favor. If you are not objectionable and done your research you have a 90% chance of sealing the deal. But there is always that "don't ever quite know". With this hot Vietnamese chick in London even after chatting over wine in my room I was never sure it was on. It was a seduction at every step. Even when I pulled off her pants and her panties came with she pulled them back up. But working around this obstacle we were fucking 10 minutes later.

And once a Vegas SB was in my room only after dinner only to say "I can't have sex with a guy I just met" and she meant it. I had to whip out every Nanpa trick in the book and we were fucking 20 minutes later.

So take your chances — go civvy. Go SB. There's always a last minute Diva girl. It's a win win.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2560533]London is the perfect place to take your chances because you always have backup. For example, I tried my hand at pure civilian dating with a hot Peruvian I met at a dance club. We had a nice dinner but I didn't close the deal. It was 11:45 PM and I was on the street after she left. I texted Diva theee girls from my list who I might hope to see and they said Flory would see me. I was in Flory's bed before 12:15! I shit you not. So you can always take a chance and have a diva girl as backup.

Same thing another time. I have a Malaysian MILF I like but "we just friends". At 1 AM after dancing I booked Mermaid at 1:45 AM and she was down to meet. So you can have your civvy cake and eat it too.

If you are not brave enough to go full civvy then Sugar Babies is where it's at. With a sugar baby you have the allure of a non sure thing but a sweetener that stacks the odds in your favor. If you are not objectionable and done your research you have a 90% chance of sealing the deal. But there is always that "don't ever quite know". With this hot Vietnamese chick in London even after chatting over wine in my room I was never sure it was on. It was a seduction at every step. Even when I pulled off her pants and her panties came with she pulled them back up. But working around this obstacle we were fucking 10 minutes later..[/QUOTE]Hahahaha, I've had half a dozen civvy women down the years, without being any kind of a studly woman pulling guy, and did just that (bang hookers while dating to take the pressure off); I kind of wonder though if the civvy women can tell you're not desperate to get into their pants and it puts them off sometimes. I think they're used to getting chased by horny guys and if you're not champing at the bit they think there's something wrong. Who knows, in any case once I start dating again now the lockdown is over, I certainly intend to keep punting on the side (unless things get serious with anyone).

Something I have to know though, is why does everyone on this site rave about Diva so much? Not criticizing, just curious. What makes them stand out?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2560109]If I were to monger in London, which could very well happen as I believe London would open up much sooner than Germany, I would choose outcall rather than incall as there would be no lurking boyfriends to pull some nasty surprises.[/QUOTE]I'm totally the same. Thought everyone but clearly not. When a girl comes to my hotel, I need to take precautions (putting valuables in safe, hiding things with my real name) but it feels safer. They are on "my" turf. No lurking boyfriends or co-conspirators. Can't get past lobby without my approval. Going into a girl's apartment I'd be afraid of walking into some sh*t.

[QUOTE=SonnyJim2;2560711]Something I have to know though, is why does everyone on this site rave about Diva so much? Not criticizing, just curious. What makes them stand out?[/QUOTE]By far the easiest to work.

- Folks who handle communications are super nice at coordinating everything / making recommendations / taking feedback etc.

- Always have countless number of girls working. Even as late at 1 in the night.

- (If you've done your homework, read reviews etc.) the chance of you getting scammed or having a bad session is minimal when compared to the others. Of course YMMV.

- Rates are standard. Funny enough, I've come across a few others (Babylon, Barracuda etc.) who have the same women but the hourly rates are higher.

On MOST occasions, you see what you get. Some of the most highly rated ladies (across multiple review boards) work with Diva.

Diva gets mentioned so much because it's pretty much a sure thing done right.

1. The girl in the picture is the girl you get. 100%. Read the reviews tho in case she's slightly older or chubbier than when pics taken (doesn't happen with well reviewed girls).

2. The post positive and negative reviews.

3. They post the girls services. If it says FK but not DFK then she doesn't DFK. It's all transparent.

4. The service is impeccable. Like I called at 11:45 and was in Flory's bed at 12:15.

5. The girls use many services but Diva treats them best based on my sampling.

And speaking to the other post on incall. Surely all those are concerns. Never had any of them with Diva. These girls have their own tiny flats (without boyfriends lurking) or are roommates with other Diva girls. Yes one time we could hear a roomie and a guy getting it on when we were having some wine. Doesn't bother me.

Often you meet their diva flatmates scampering around in a T-shirt and undies or watching Netflix in a wife beater in her bed. I find these enhance not detract from the personal experience incall provides.

Yep. Totally.

Because I'm an idiot, I have on occasion gone hunting for hidden treasures with other agencies.

Every time, disappointed.

And every time I use Divas, it works out.

They just have their game tight. It's a highly professional company in a decidedly unprofessional industry.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2560814]Diva gets mentioned so much because it's pretty much a sure thing done right.

1. The girl in the picture is the girl you get. 100%. Read the reviews tho in case she's slightly older or chubbier than when pics taken (doesn't happen with well reviewed girls).

2. The post positive and negative reviews.

3. They post the girls services. If it says FK but not DFK then she doesn't DFK. It's all transparent.

4. The service is impeccable. Like I called at 11:45 and was in Flory's bed at 12:15.

5. The girls use many services but Diva treats them best based on my sampling.

And speaking to the other post on incall. Surely all those are concerns. Never had any of them with Diva. These girls have their own tiny flats (without boyfriends lurking) or are roommates with other Diva girls. Yes one time we could hear a roomie and a guy getting it on when we were having some wine. Doesn't bother me.

Often you meet their diva flatmates scampering around in a T-shirt and undies or watching Netflix in a wife beater in her bed. I find these enhance not detract from the personal experience incall provides.[/QUOTE]

Ah, interesting. I've just put out two reverse bookings on Adultwork and had quite a few crazies or scammers respond (and one girl quoting me the prices of £400 for the session), which reminds me how useless the AW reverse booking pool is these days. I should check Diva out then, because for a long time I avoided the online agency world due to its numerous scams and bait and switch tactics.

There's so many tantric massage parlors in London, any info / tips on which / how to choose?

[QUOTE=SonnyJim2;2560991]Ah, interesting. I've just put out two reverse bookings on Adultwork and had quite a few crazies or scammers respond (and one girl quoting me the prices of 400 for the session), which reminds me how useless the AW reverse booking pool is these days. I should check Diva out then, because for a long time I avoided the online agency world due to its numerous scams and bait and switch tactics.[/QUOTE]Good plan. Bear in mind you don't need to pay more than 200 / HR tops! More pounds just gets you a nicer flat IMO. There are amazing girls at 150 and 200. I see both Fortune and Mermaid are in town. If your an optics guy Fortune is a 9.5 with an 8 on service (not much of a kisser). Mermaid is an 8 on looks and a 9.5 on performance. And she will kiss your fucking face off. Of course tons of other options make sure to read the reviews! I will money back guarantee either of those two.

And if you like Asian then Anna at Olina Escorts is your girl. Fucking amazing wildcat and totally committed to your pleasure. Top girl worldwide. She has bolt ons which I don't prefer but very well done and she musta been a solid Bee cup before because plenty nice soft girly stuff to play with. And she will blow and fuck you till you can take no more. Money back guarantee on her also.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2561042]Good plan. Bear in mind you don't need to pay more than 200 / HR tops! More pounds just gets you a nicer flat IMO. There are amazing girls at 150 and 200. I see both Fortune and Mermaid are in town. If your an optics guy Fortune is a 9.5 with an 8 on service (not much of a kisser). Mermaid is an 8 on looks and a 9.5 on performance. And she will kiss your fucking face off. Of course tons of other options make sure to read the reviews! I will money back guarantee either of those two.

And if you like Asian then Anna at Olina Escorts is your girl. Fucking amazing wildcat and totally committed to your pleasure. Top girl worldwide. She has bolt ons which I don't prefer but very well done and she musta been a solid Bee cup before because plenty nice soft girly stuff to play with. And she will blow and fuck you till you can take no more. Money back guarantee on her also.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, thanks for the recommendations. Will check them out time / wallet permitting later in 2021.

So, I am starting some preliminary research for a trip later this summer. I've read the last several years worth of posts on this forum and others and tried to summarize what I've learned.

The Diva girls are found on many different websites and the only site that seems to have independent reviews of these girls is *********, but they are linked to the Babylon Girls nickname, not the Diva Escorts nickname. Diva has their own reviews, but I am skeptical.

This list is a work in progress. I'll try matching up the Babylon and Diva names if I have the time.

Top optiks (totally subjective of course):

Robertina, Fortune,

Virona / Alison, Bernice, Dinastia, Britta, Lavanda, Audra, Marinn, Decora, Ralphina, Shannon, Sinta, Antonina, Braelyn, Blanka.

I have only included girls with natural breasts under age 30 whose base charge is under 200 pounds and who provide DFK /69/ OWO / CIM. For me, that is "True GFE". Since I like prostate massage and / or strap on, but don't require it, I've included that info also.

Key:

* tons of good reviews.

Name, included extra services, price, price of additional services.

"True GFE": DFK /69/ OWO / CIM / natural breasts.

Cambria 200 + 50 CIM + 50 Rim.

Carol +PM +strapon 200 +50 CIM + 50 Rim.

*Fortune 200 + 50 CIM.

*Mermaid 150 + 50 CIM.

Robertina 200.

Ceren PM +strapon 200 + 50 CIM.

*Melty 150 + 50 CIM + 50 PM.

Raduga + strap on 200 + 50 CIM.

Iliana + strap on 150 + 50 CIM.

Satina +anal 200.

Electra 150 +30 CIM.

Giana +PM 200 +50 CIM.

Thaisa / Steffi +PM + strapon 200 + 50 CIM.

Canarina +PM +strapon 200+50 CIM.

Percival +PM +strapon 150 +50 CIM.

Cindy 200 +50 CIM.

*Natalie 200 + 50 CIM + 30 PM (but only FK no DFK).

Valley +PM 200 +50 CIM.

"Almost GFE": DFK /69/ OWO / natural breasts.

Simeria + PM + strap on 150.

Flory + PM + strap on 150.

Megan +PM 200.

*Kendall +PM 200.

Henny +PM 150.

Dolita +PM + strap on 200.

Fiesta +PM 200.

Amber 150.

Mahura +PM + strapon 150.

Marna 150.

Dottie +PM +strapon 150.

Nerolia +strapon 150.

Napoleona +PM +strapon 200.

Shane 200.

Rosalyn +strapon 200.

Best?? (good reviews with best range of services and decent pricing): Natalie, Etta, Mermaid (great reviews! Virona, Robertina, Ceren, Bianka Blonde (250+), Marinn (250+), Simeria, Megan, Thaisa, Lesya, Melty (great reviews! Rivetta, Kendall, Cambria, Fortune (great reviews! Raduga, Jane, Iliana, Penelope, Noleta, Flory, Henny, Irada, Dosia, Oliva, Napoleona.

Second best?? (good reviews but limited range of services, poor pricing): Shannon, Wilde, Lavanda, Firefly, Faida, Britta, Darlene, Allonsa, Dandelia, Dinastia, Adona, Dalika, Sweetie.

Avoid (negative reviews): Blanka, Gracen, Inna, Timyana, Allonsa, Estel, Braelyn, Dosia, Foxy, Graciela, Belladonna, Rushana, Laramie, Elfina, Morta, Iraklia.

Concetta / Clara (flabby saggy older), Calvados / Kriss (cold demeanor).

You can use the Aurora map to find nearby girls (Diva duplicates) and nationality with more service details:

[URL]https://www.auroraescorts.co.uk/map[/URL]

[URL]https://www.auroraescorts.co.uk/welcome/allmodels[/URL]

This list is not totally comprehensive. I left out a few that seemed like real dogs and I've noticed a few new names on the website in the last few days, presumably girls returning to business as the pandemic fades in the UK.

Overall strategy:

Schedule one session each with Melinda and Nicky at Olina.

Review HOD schedule one week in advance and make email appts.

Review Phoenix schedule one week in advance.

Review Diva and schedule based on appearance / reviews / services DFK / OWO / CIM.

The two local "punting" review sites don't have any useful reviews of Diva girls. One has reviews of Babylon girls and the other has reviews of House of Divine girls.

Notes on HOD, Olina, and Phoenix:

House of Divine.

(usually 130 pounds /1 HR).

[URL]http://www.houseofdivine.com/londonescorts.php[/URL]

CIM girls:

Millie.

Strap on specialist: Helen.

Good reviews (asterisk equals great reviews).

Maya.

Chelsea.

April.

Elle.

Apple.

*Sloane.

*Darcy.

*Talulah.

Elizabeth.

Effy.

Laura.

Neutral reviews:

Helen.

Negative reviews:

Morgan.

[URL]https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/House_of_Divine[/URL]

Olina.

Great for rimming / strapon / asians (usually 150 pounds /1 HR).

[URL]http://www.olina-oriental-escort.com/escort-gallery-all-escorts.php[/URL]

Best: Nicky who has tons of good reviews or Melinda (both considered tiptop escort experiences).

Also excellent: Tracey and Anna.

Avoid: Lola.

Phoenix.

For 2 hour orgy parties 2:1 ratio (usually 160 pounds /2 hrs).

[URL]https://thephoenixclub.london[/URL]

Avoid: Barbara.

[URL]https://www.puntingwiki.com/wiki/The_Phoenix_Club[/URL]

If you want to search for reviews, it helps to have more than one nickname for each girl.

I did my best to connect the dots. Here are name matches with Diva nickname first, then Babylon girls nickname:

Adona /?

Aelita /?

Agnia / Agnia.

Alima / Alima.

Alba /?

Almaza /?

Amber /?

Amelinda /?

Aquamarine /?

Audra / Audrina.

Ayrin /?

Belladonna /?

Bernice / Bianca.

Berry /?

Besta / Stefania.

Bianka Blonde /?

Blanka / Tania.

Bobbie / Isa.

Braelyn /?

Brenta / Peach.

Britta / Kiera.

Calvados / Kriss.

Cambria / Reese.

Canarina / Angelica.

Capella /?

Carmen /?

Carol /?

Ceren / Melek.

Cindy /?

Clio / Carol.

Clodia /?

Concetta / Clara.

Dalika / Dalika.

Dandelia / Dandelia.

Darlene /?

Dinastia / Clary.

Dolita / Dolita.

Dolly /?

Donalda /?

Dosia /?

Dottie / Heidi.

Ebru / Ebru.

Electra /?

Elfina / Bibi.

Endelyn / Manuela.

Evalda / Ozana.

Eve /?

Faida /?

Fantasie /?

Fiesta / Fiesta.

Firefly / Anda.

Fortune / Yara.

Foxy /?

Francine /?

Geisha /?

Gemina /?

Giana / Salem.

Gulara / Lolita.

Harlow / Lilly.

Harper / Andora.

Helen.

Iliana /?

Irada /?

Jazzu / Marlene.

Johnica / Nicole.

Klava /?

Kolibri / Arianna.

Konstantina /?

Larissa /?

Lassy /?

Lavanda / Raffaela.

Laverna /?

Leppa / Abby.

Lesta / Lesta.

Lia /?

Linura /?

Londyn /?

Mahura / Joyce.

Mariana /?

Marivel /?

Marinn /?

Marna / Svetlana.

Megan / Abela.

Mermaid / Amanda Storm.

Miraldyn /?

Monalisa / Sandra.

Montal?

Nais /?

Napoleona / Santana.

Nerolia / Candy.

Nita /?

Nour /?

Oliva /?

Olivette / Julia.

Oriole /?

Pascale / Natallie.

Percival /?

Poseydona / Karren.

Pink / Pink.

Pupi / Pupi.

Ricki /?

Riley / Lorie.

Robertina / Simone.

Rochelle /?

Rosalyn /?

Ruby / Dulcie.

Rushana / Aletta.

Sabia / Larissah.

Sanisha /?

Satina / Inna.

Scali /?

Shane /?

Shannon /?

Shawnee /?

Simeria /?

Sinta / Kimber.

Starlina /?

Sumatra / Cora.

Tala / Tina.

Thaisa / Steffi.

Timyana /?

Toutsi / Marcella.

Twiggy / Missy.

Ukka /?

Valley /?

Virona / Alison.

Yonny / Yonny.

Zena /?

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2561660]...the only site that seems to have independent reviews of these girls is *********[/QUOTE]You need to know that some sites block reviews, I wrote a review of Braelyn on punter net and it was rejected by the admins. The girls or their agency have a deal with the site to block bad reviews.

Wow. Those posts on the specific girls in the London escort scene are amazing. Certainly the first one (top girls and services) belongs in the Reports of Distinction section. The amount of research this must have taken is mind blowing. The community thanks you!

A few thoughts / updates.

Saw your Fortune and Mermaid notes. Consistent with my experience. I should have mentioned Cambria and Kendall who are both in town and who I did duos with twice and solos a couple times. Both are clear winners. Cambria is the whole package when it comes to all around attitude and service — and if you want a party girl to pound the wine while ravaging each other she's for you. Also a great kisser and very passionate. Kendall has the finest natural DCUPS on planet earth and is amazingly beautiful. She has the most mellow vibe of the lot — the other three are bubbly and Kendall is chill.

Noleta is fabulous but now sports bolt-ONS which might knock her from your list. I don't believe Rivetta, Flory, or Melty are working in London anymore. I know Melty scored a mega sugar daddy and was jetsetting the globe in his arms. Good for her.

Thanks again for your amazing labor of love research.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2561829]You need to know that some sites block reviews, I wrote a review of Braelyn on punter net and it was rejected by the admins. The girls or their agency have a deal with the site to block bad reviews.[/QUOTE]Did Diva block your Braelyn review on the Diva site? Since they post negative reviews I always assumed they don't block unless it's over the top somehow.

Thanks for the feedback! Like many on this forum, I breeze into a new city for a week, try to have a peak experience for a week with a nice mix of cultural tourism / great food / great sex, then head home. I completely rely on the great reviews and links on this site to guide me. I try to do my research ahead of time, then provide my own reviews afterwards. I usually try to post my "research summary", since often this prompts some helpful comments. My overall London plan is: morning tourism, lunch, one hour with HOD or Olina girl in early afternoon, dinner, one hour with Diva girl in the evening, then maybe a West End show. Rinse and repeat daily. Will probably try Phoenix one day as well. If anyone has a better strategy for the peak London experience, let me know!

"Wow. Those posts on the specific girls in the London escort scene are amazing. Certainly the first one (top girls and services) belongs in the Reports of Distinction section. The amount of research this must have taken is mind blowing. The community thanks you. ".

AKA living the good life. I've got my eye on London as well for my first post-Covid trip, esp. Since São Paulo and Montreal are difficult to get into now. I'm vacc'ed so it's logistics rather than health that hold me back. Please share your experiences.

I've a couple of questions about London particularly I'the like answered. First off, what's with the wide variance of prices on the Diva site? Some girls at 150 and others at 600 quid? WTF? Why would the market tolerate such a wide range? From my research the girls in my wheelhouse are about 250-350, spendy but still better than my home set up.

Fingering is very important to me. So is OWO and DFK, but these seems ubiquitous. If a girls doesn't say fingering should I assume she doesn't and move on? I find a lot of girls are ok with it but think to mention it. Also any intel on neighborhoods and hotels would be nice. Have fun.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2561877]Like many on this forum, I breeze into a new city for a week, try to have a peak experience for a week with a nice mix of cultural tourism / great food / great sex, then head home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2561901]AKA living the good life. I've got my eye on London as well for my first post-Covid trip, esp. Since So Paulo and Montreal are difficult to get into now. I'm vacc'ed so it's logistics rather than health that hold me back. Please share your experiences.

I've a couple of questions about London particularly I'the like answered. First off, what's with the wide variance of prices on the Diva site? Some girls at 150 and others at 600 quid? WTF? Why would the market tolerate such a wide range? From my research the girls in my wheelhouse are about 250-350, spendy but still better than my home set up.

Fingering is very important to me. So is OWO and DFK, but these seems ubiquitous. If a girls doesn't say fingering should I assume she doesn't and move on? I find a lot of girls are ok with it but think to mention it. Also any intel on neighborhoods and hotels would be nice. Have fun.[/QUOTE]350 seems awful spendy to me when there are amazing girls at 200 but it's your dick. My experience is the $$ pay more for a nicer flat than a better girl. I did a 250 Allure girl once and yes she was British and had a nice flat but her kissing was super lame. But I guess it can't hurt to try and report back. I've considered Gayana at 250 (last I knew) because she so floats my boat but never pulled the trigger with such a target rich environment.

Def if she doesn't list fingering she doesn't do fingering. Guaranteed. It's not like a club negotiation they do exactly what they say and will err on overstating not understating. Diva has another great website feature that is not obvious. If you are lookiking at a girl who lists fingering click on the word fingering and it will filter to all girls that do fingering. Very handy.

By the way my new fave position (I love bj and fingering) is ur girl lies on her back. U kneel up by her head dick near her face and she will get the idea and put it in her mouth rolling sideways a bit. Then reach down and start fingering her while she blows u. This is amazing.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2561877]Thanks for the feedback! Like many on this forum, I breeze into a new city for a week, try to have a peak experience for a week with a nice mix of cultural tourism / great food / great sex, then head home. I completely rely on the great reviews and links on this site to guide me. I try to do my research ahead of time, then provide my own reviews afterwards. I usually try to post my "research summary", since often this prompts some helpful comments. My overall London plan is: morning tourism, lunch, one hour with HOD or Olina girl in early afternoon, dinner, one hour with Diva girl in the evening, then maybe a West End show. Rinse and repeat daily. Will probably try Phoenix one day as well. If anyone has a better strategy for the peak London experience, let me know!

"Wow. Those posts on the specific girls in the London escort scene are amazing. Certainly the first one (top girls and services) belongs in the Reports of Distinction section. The amount of research this must have taken is mind blowing. The community thanks you. ".[/QUOTE]I've never been but the reports and basic premise is that girls work at Phoenix for a reason. Sex club girls are almost always less attractive than quality escorts. I'm going to bet not a single girl at Phoenix could work on Diva and make a go of it. So I'the put Phoenix early. Better to get continually better than go downhill IMO.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2561908]350 seems awful spendy to me when there are amazing girls at 200 but it's your dick. My experience is the $$ pay more for a nicer flat than a better girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks as always Steve. I just checked the Diva site and most of the fingering girls are in the 200-250 range with lots of acceptable options, tho my 1st choice was 300. The 600 quid girl was in Dubai.

This works for me. After a year of self imposed abstinence I decided to pay the review and authentication boards T*are & Prefered Four one one to see what was available locally. Wow was that depressing. Nearly every acceptable girl in looks and service (and I mean acceptable, not exceptional like I would find in Sampa or MTL or I guess London) started at 600 and went as high as 1500 US. And they are getting it as far as I can tell. I'm not a cheap Charlie, as anyone who reads my post knows, but I find paying such rapacious prices a big turn off. I figure every time I jerk off, I'm saving a grand!

God I can't wait for travel to open up. I got a year of cum and $$ to spew.

Steve, thanks for the comment about Phoenix. I suspect they are more of a low budget orgy than peak experience like an FKK, but might still be a fun detour.

So here is what I've learned about House of Divine. Some of the reviews and pricing seem so good, I'm wondering why anyone would choose Divas (other than variety).

House of Divine.

(usually 130 pounds /1 HR).

[URL]http://www.houseofdivine.com/londonescorts.php[/URL]

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/HoDTweetsSexy1[/URL]

Best service and reviews (asterisk equals multiple good reviews).

*Darcy 19 yo DFK / OWO / CIM.

**Laura 28 yo DFK / OWO / CIM.

**Effy 24 yo British FK / OWO / CIM.

*Blaire 29 yo British DFK / OWO / CIM / rim.

**Apple 31 yo Asian DFK / OWO / CIM / anal.

**Millie 26 yo black with OWO / CIM, strap on, A levels.

Second best service and / or reviews:

*Maya 26 yo but very limited service.

*Chelsea 26 yo FK / OWO.

*April 21 yo FK / OWO.

Elle 23 yo British CIM / anal.

Alex 21 yo British all services except Anal / CIM.

*Sloane.

*Talulah 25 yo British DFK / OWO /69.

Helen 24 yo busty Estonian DFK / OWO, "tie and tease and strap on specialist" mixed reviews.

*Rebecca.

*Ophelia 24 yo OWO but otherwise limited service.

Kat beautiful 21 yo OWO but otherwise limited service.

Elizabeth.

*Laura.

Negative reviews:

Morgan, Luiza.

In studying the Diva site and comparing that to their competitors, like Babylon, I did notice a few girls who show up on Babylon (and others) but are not listed on Diva. Were they banished for some reason? Several of them had tons of great reviews on the local boards.

*Pink 28 yo lesbian 200 Babylon.

*Carolina 22 yo 150 Babylon.

Sophia 23 yo 200 Babylon.

Betty 23 yo Babylon.

Anyone know what gives? Should I avoid these girls that are missing from Diva?

Also found this agency of real British girls, not same Romanians on every other site (about 300/ HR):

[URL]https://www.bijouxescorts.com[/URL]

From my reading, there are only 7 legitimate Asian agencies in London, and the rest are ripoffs. Here are the real ones:

Sexyasianescorts. Co. Uk.

This one has a few unique girls that I didn't see on the other sites, including 22 yo Nina who looks pretty good but has mixed reviews.

[URL]www.007escorts.co.uk[/URL]

Invasianescorts. Co. Uk.

[URL]www.asianselection.com[/URL]

[URL]www.olina-oriental-escort.com[/URL]

[URL]www.asianoptions.co.uk[/URL]

[URL]www.oriental-models.co.uk[/URL]

Again, any and all "peak experience" recommendations are greatly appreciated.

I joined this forum a while back but as travelling is still pretty much off the cards, the only way I can really contribute so far is to provide you fellas with a list of escorts I see regularly, or have seen in London. Hopefully this will be of use and can provide more details of my experiences with any of the girls if you would like more info.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/The+Blueberry+Girl[/URL]

Saw her about a year ago. Fucks with a lot of energy and she does just about everything. Not the prettiest face IMO but great value.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/MIA+BABY[/URL]

Looks exactly like pictures. Gets extremely wet. She is quite difficult to book and notice her price has gone up recently (but then everyone's price seems to be going up around London at the moment), but her services are excellent.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/MIA%5F%5F[/URL]

Known for her Anal service. Model looks. She has a glowing reputation in mongering circles in London but got to say my experience was a bit disappointing as I found the sex a bit mechanical. But YMMV.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/HornyNikki[/URL]

Borderline BBW. Very curvy to say the least. She is absolutely filthy and great company.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/Sussybustynatural[/URL]

Outrageously good body. Incredible boobs. She has an extensive list of services although her comms are very unreliable.

[URL]http://www.olina-oriental-escort.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=427[/URL]

Very good value for money service. Very pretty face, her bolt-ONS suit her well and she offers a very enthusiastic service. Also been meaning to see Nicky from Olina for a while ([URL]http://www.olina-oriental-escort.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=462[/URL]) who has been getting glowing reviews recently as well.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2562217]Again, any and all "peak experience" recommendations are greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I can recommend Tracy from Olina escorts - [URL]http://www.olina-oriental-escort.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=427[/URL].

Saw her about a month ago and she is great value for money (for London prices anyway). Pretty girl and really enthusiastic service.

TheSatellite, thanks for the great recommendations. Adult work seems to be very hit or miss, and not the "sure thing" that a one week traveler can use, but these recommendations look excellent. I may try to snag one for a dinner date. One of them even mentions a lower (70 per hour) rate for the social part of the date. Again, thanks for those!

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2562806]TheSatellite, thanks for the great recommendations. Adult work seems to be very hit or miss, and not the "sure thing" that a one week traveler can use, but these recommendations look excellent. I may try to snag one for a dinner date. One of them even mentions a lower (70 per hour) rate for the social part of the date. Again, thanks for those![/QUOTE]Happy to help mate. I have a few others on my to see list I am happy to share if anyone is interested.

Feel free to reach out over PM for any further details. That applies to anyone here. I am keen to help out as I anticipate reaching out for help in other parts of the forum when I can travel again, so may as well share what knowledge I have locally to contribute to the forums.

Today I took a chance to visit the new recruit of Diva 'Maila'.

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-maila[/URL]

A 30 minute booking, I do it to see how the girl is, so I can either avoid or move to 1 hour bookings.

She is very open minded and friendly, after Fortune, Electra she can be one of the top rated girl! If she keeps up the good work. Most of the services are on offer, and not hesitations. For me its a must to have DFK and 69, some times OWO based on how it gets along with the girl.

She did complete justice to the time and money with her efforts. One thing, not much of an issues, she won't allow to use your own condom! Which I usually prefer.

Happy mongering.

Mike.

After more than 20 years in the Far East, I've been stuck back in the UK, for reasons that you can guess, since October. I'd never tried mongering on these shores, but encountered Adultwork, and decided to give it a try. In recent years I've developed a taste for South Indian women, so looked out for Indian / Pakistani etc. My first encounter, at a Heathrow hotel was great. Punjabi (Sikh) girl from Blackburn. No DFK or OWO (but the site made that clear in advance). Mostly fun because of the conversation. Incredibly vivacious and talkative lady, and we went well over the hour, even though the business was completed, just talking.

Second was less impressive. Elegantly titled "Sexy legs and Arse", stated she was Pakistani, called Priscilla, and profile promised a pretty fun GFE. I guess the lack of feedback should have given me a clue. Anyway, I found myself in a rather dingy flat in Epsom, with a reasonably hot Brazilian called Jennifer. I paid for 1 hour, which I'd rather have once a month than 30 minutes every 2 weeks. The sex was OK, but she spoke very little English, and once the deed was done, there seemed not much point but to get out.

I'll choose more carefully next time.

Hello to the team. Reporting news from London. Although the vaccination program is well advanced in UK, it seems that the variant that was first identified in India (doesn't mean that the origin is Indian) is causing problems and maybe we are in the initial stages of a 4th wave. I went on Friday in Sussex Gardens and only 3 girls were present all of them overweight. Generally only few new escorts are coming and I don't know if this has to do with Brexit, covid or a combination of both. Traveling abroad in most cases is difficult because you have to quarantine for 10 days at home and having to take 3-4 covid tests. At the moment are only a handful of countries you can visit without having to quarantine but these countries are not worth visiting in my opinion.

I went to see Diva girl Rushana last week since no where is really open abroad for Brits that is good for mongering not even Germany, Switzerland or Austria. Rushana is beautiful, Romanian and has excellent reviews. She starts off at 200 gbp for an hour but is very pretty (even more than her photos on Diva) and her body is near perfect. I'the say a 9. She reminded me of Erika of Globe. Anyway, it was a really fun session, she is super friendly and a very open minded girl in bed with great OWO, DFK and 69. I came loads in the end. Felt like being back in Globe (at least while we were in bed). Had a shower in her Bayswater flat and left a satisfied man. Rushana. 21. Romanian beauty from near Constanta. Definitely worth a visit and I will repeat. She reminded me of why I love Romanian girls.

I love Diva and have a few girls on their list of current girls to go through but I'm looking for a light skinned black girl to try next and therefore if anyone can recommend a London escort girl who fits the bill let me know on here. Has anyone been with Marianna Brunette, the Russian girl at Diva?

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2569161]

I love Diva and have a few girls on their list of current girls to go through but I'm looking for a light skinned black girl to try next and therefore if anyone can recommend a London escort girl who fits the bill let me know on here. [/QUOTE]Sarah at Diva is a black girl from Brasil, you can see if she fits your description of light skinned: [URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-sloane-square-sarah[/URL] . I have been with her before, and she's lots of fun, even though I would have preferred real tits. My original review of her is at [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?840-London&p=2499101&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2499101 .

Let us know if you see her, and how you enjoy it.

Looking for feedback on others experience of Romanian girls booked via Adultwork for incall in the London/Essex area. I have been mongering for many years and in all that time, every time I have booked a Romanian girl I have had a bad experience. It has got to the point where I exclude them via the search function. Is it just me or have others experienced the same?

Its just they look so damn hot and I don't want to be missing out simply because I have had a bad run!

[QUOTE=Aimara;2573750]Looking for feedback on others experience of Romanian girls booked via Adultwork for incall in the London/Essex area. I have been mongering for many years and in all that time, every time I have booked a Romanian girl I have had a bad experience. It has got to the point where I exclude them via the search function. Is it just me or have others experienced the same?

Its just they look so damn hot and I don't want to be missing out simply because I have had a bad run![/QUOTE]It's been said on here many times but in case U missed it. Only use Adultwork if you can't afford 150 / HR. Because it's a total crapshoot and will more often than not lose compared to using a well reviewed girl at Diva (or Olina if you like Asian). If that's outside your budget then by all means use adultwork; but youre likely to get uglier older fatter or poorer service than you planned.

[QUOTE=Aimara;2573750]Looking for feedback on others experience of Romanian girls booked via Adultwork for incall in the London/Essex area. I have been mongering for many years and in all that time, every time I have booked a Romanian girl I have had a bad experience. It has got to the point where I exclude them via the search function. Is it just me or have others experienced the same?

Its just they look so damn hot and I don't want to be missing out simply because I have had a bad run![/QUOTE]I've had maybe about 60% bad service from Romanian girls, 35% meh service and 5% really, really good service.

[QUOTE=Aimara;2573750]Its just they look so damn hot and I don't want to be missing out simply because I have had a bad run![/QUOTE]Any reason you aren't looking at agencies? Diva has a few Romanians. And Diva being Diva, you will in all likelihood have an amazing time. Or at least it's unlikely you'll have a bad one. May be slightly more expensive than adultwork but in the long run, you'd save a lot more by not wasting £££ on each bad experience with random Romanians.

I'll be traveling to London mid July, coming over from USA. How does this work over here, from what I've read online it's legal but not? I'll be referring to the agencies I see on here, what should I be expecting for the price range? How negotiable are extras with these girls, talking about BBBJ, BBFS. Any other recommendations for specific agencies / girls would be great as well, thanks.

[QUOTE=CuriosWankah;2574399]I'll be traveling to London mid July, coming over from USA. How does this work over here, from what I've read online it's legal but not? I'll be referring to the agencies I see on here, what should I be expecting for the price range? How negotiable are extras with these girls, talking about BBBJ, BBFS. Any other recommendations for specific agencies / girls would be great as well, thanks.[/QUOTE]As easy as it can be. No watching over your back for LE or any of that usual stuff you have to go through in other countries. Land in London, get a temp SIM, hit up an agency. (Most) girls will have listed out what all they will provide. BBFS is tricky. I doubt any agency girls will agree. YMMV. Was never my thing so not sure if they do. BBBJ. Many of the Agency girls prefer CBJ but for that, Adultwork may be a better bet. My suggestion. Prior to your trip. Look up which girls you like. On adult work you should be able to message them directly. Check on this forum, UKpunting and on AW for reviews. Once you get to London, if you're going via an agency, you can let them know your preferences and they can suggest. Or alternatively if you have the hots for any or / few, the agency will check with the girl and let you know.

Either ways, overall, the process is smooth. For all practical purposes, most mongering activities are legal. If you'd give me the choice between traveling to Vegas, NYC or London. I'd pick London in a heartbeat. Or to be accurate. My the—- will pick London and I let it lead the way.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=CuriosWankah;2574399]I'll be traveling to London mid July, coming over from USA. How does this work over here, from what I've read online it's legal but not? I'll be referring to the agencies I see on here, what should I be expecting for the price range? How negotiable are extras with these girls, talking about BBBJ, BBFS. Any other recommendations for specific agencies / girls would be great as well, thanks.[/QUOTE]I am an American and have been to London many times, which leads me to one piece of advice: go with an agency. I like [URL]divaescorts.com[/URL], which is well-regarded if you read this forum. If it meets your budget (girls start at 150 GBP / hour, and most girls are in the 150-250/ hour range), then you can read the reviews and use those as your guide. Each girl's page lists prices for certain extras, which in my experience, is not really negotiable. But that may be different if you have been with a particular girl several times. Most girls do BBBJ (called oral without, or OWO, on Diva pages), but BBFS isn't typically on offer. Some girls may offer it if you talk to them, but I suspect that newcomers won't have much luck. Just my guess.

Anyway, the chance of having a high-quality session with a well-reviewed Diva girl (and maybe with some other London agencies) is quite high as compared to the experience in US. Just be a decent guy, and the girls are pretty good. No issues with law enforcement.

We should probably be having this convo via PM. Agencies tend to be West London, I am East which maybe the reason. Fair shout though, I will give them a go!

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2574300]Any reason you aren't looking at agencies? Diva has a few Romanians. And Diva being Diva, you will in all likelihood have an amazing time. Or at least it's unlikely you'll have a bad one. May be slightly more expensive than adultwork but in the long run, you'd save a lot more by not wasting on each bad experience with random Romanians.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aimara;2574662]We should probably be having this convo via PM. Agencies tend to be West London, I am East which maybe the reason. Fair shout though, I will give them a go![/QUOTE]Well, I'm in London and use Diva.

A few points:

Ruskies or Roms, I'd say that your chances to have a bad time are around 50 to 60%. It's not because you use an agency that there is a guarantee of quality.

Mongers who are always claiming to have nice service either lie or are satisfied with little to no service, some ejaculate just seeing a naked SP. Not to blame anybody but that's just what happens.

Since beginning of the pandemic and cumulated with Brexit, it has been more difficult to supply the market with new SP. Consequently prices have arisen to extortionate rate while service level has not changed. Base line tarif is now 200/250 £ per hour. Don't even think about booking a girl at 150, you the better save yourself time and throw it straight to the bin instead. A decent SP is charged at 300 to 400 £.

Visit the ukpunting, most girls are reviewed there, you will avoid to choose the wrong SPs.

Be aware that by no mean the photos you will see on the agency site represent the SP you will meet. Photoshop is outrageously over used.

Conclusion: I advice to avoid mongering in London, the market is just a complete joke and need a serious reset. If you have the opportunity, visit Germany instead, clubs are all or almost all reopening and the SP are younger, prettier and cheaper than the London scam.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2574681]Well, I'm in London and use Diva.

A few points:

Ruskies or Roms, I'd say that your chances to have a bad time are around 50 to 60%. It's not because you use an agency that there is a guarantee of quality.

Mongers who are always claiming to have nice service either lie or are satisfied with little to no service, some ejaculate just seeing a naked SP. Not to blame anybody but that's just what happens.

Since beginning of the pandemic and cumulated with Brexit, it has been more difficult to supply the market with new SP. Consequently prices have arisen to extortionate rate while service level has not changed. Base line tarif is now 200/250 per hour. Don't even think about booking a girl at 150, you the better save yourself time and throw it straight to the bin instead. A decent SP is charged at 300 to 400 .

Visit the ukpunting, most girls are reviewed there, you will avoid to choose the wrong SPs.

Be aware that by no mean the photos you will see on the agency site represent the SP you will meet. Photoshop is outrageously over used.

Conclusion: I advice to avoid mongering in London, the market is just a complete joke and need a serious reset. If you have the opportunity, visit Germany instead, clubs are all or almost all reopening and the SP are younger, prettier and cheaper than the London scam.

Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Normally I say to each his own and everyone has an opinion. But there is just blatant misinformation in this post. There are absolutely DIVA Romanian girls at 200 who will give you an excellent experience. And even some still at 150. (I notice both Mermaid and Fortune moved to 200 today — that's ok they are worth twice that).

I don't know what this reviewer is doing wrong. Not reading the reviews? Being insulting or demeaning? Because if you go by the well reviewed girls (at least 20 five star reviews) and review their services you will absolutely have a quality experience. Guaranteed.

Perhaps Prelude if you list all the five star Diva girls you have had that gave poor service it would lend credibility, I've had nothing but great five star experience with Rivetta, Mermaid, Fortune, Melty, Kendall, Cambria, Noleta and maybe a few I'm forgetting.

Guys. London remains a top worldwide destination for incall. Just do it right and yes expect to pay 200 these days and you will return year after year like me.

I am confused with this post, I do agree girls have hiked up the price!

But there lots of girls, who provide great service, reviews are important here.

I have used lots of agencies and AW, the later is a hit and miss, but there is a chance you a find a gem and make your regular!

As we all know, why we like diva, services are listed and extras as well, so no surprises!! Lots of reviews, think they are fake reviews, count on the girls with 20+ reviews.

When you book, you can ask the lady what services you are looking for, and she will put a word to the girl.

Over years, Diva is always my back up plan! If I don't like a girl (from AW or viva) excuse my self out!! And will be soon with one of the diva girls.

I always used the 30 minute 100 £ option to check on the girl!!

My personal best have been Colombia!! But London gives lots of option, only if you have time and patience.

Short time visitors, diva is the best bet!! Or head to Manchester!! (with COVID, I am not sure if Manchester doors are open yet!

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2574681]Well, I'm in London and use Diva.

A few points:

Ruskies or Roms, I'd say that your chances to have a bad time are around 50 to 60%. It's not because you use an agency that there is a guarantee of quality.

Mongers who are always claiming to have nice service either lie or are satisfied with little to no service, some ejaculate just seeing a naked SP. Not to blame anybody but that's just what happens.

Since beginning of the pandemic and cumulated with Brexit, it has been more difficult to supply the market with new SP. Consequently prices have arisen to extortionate rate while service level has not changed. Base line tarif is now 200/250 per hour. Don't even think about booking a girl at 150, you the better save yourself time and throw it straight to the bin instead. A decent SP is charged at 300 to 400 ..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2574978]Normally I say to each his own and everyone has an opinion. But there is just blatant misinformation in this post. There are absolutely DIVA Romanian girls at 200 who will give you an excellent experience. And even some still at 150. (I notice both Mermaid and Fortune moved to 200 today that's ok they are worth twice that).

I don't know what this reviewer is doing wrong. Not reading the reviews? Being insulting or demeaning? Because if you go by the well reviewed girls (at least 20 five star reviews) and review their services you will absolutely have a quality experience. Guaranteed.

Perhaps Prelude if you list all the five star Diva girls you have had that gave poor service it would lend credibility, I've had nothing but great five star experience with Rivetta, Mermaid, Fortune, Melty, Kendall, Cambria, Noleta and maybe a few I'm forgetting.

Guys. London remains a top worldwide destination for incall. Just do it right and yes expect to pay 200 these days and you will return year after year like me.[/QUOTE]Funny guy, I'm sad for you, read again the 2nd paragraph of my previous post, you are there.

You know, I have mongered in a significant variety of countries through the years so have a tiny bit of experience to compare the markets, I gave my opinion to the OP who was asking questions about London, that's it.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2574978]Normally I say to each his own and everyone has an opinion. But there is just blatant misinformation in this post. There are absolutely DIVA Romanian girls at 200 who will give you an excellent experience. And even some still at 150. (I notice both Mermaid and Fortune moved to 200 today that's ok they are worth twice that).

I don't know what this reviewer is doing wrong. Not reading the reviews? Being insulting or demeaning? Because if you go by the well reviewed girls (at least 20 five star reviews) and review their services you will absolutely have a quality experience. Guaranteed.

Perhaps Prelude if you list all the five star Diva girls you have had that gave poor service it would lend credibility, I've had nothing but great five star experience with Rivetta, Mermaid, Fortune, Melty, Kendall, Cambria, Noleta and maybe a few I'm forgetting.

Guys. London remains a top worldwide destination for incall. Just do it right and yes expect to pay 200 these days and you will return year after year like me.[/QUOTE]Aimara,

I am sure P141's experiences are valid for him. My experiences are much closer to Steve. I have used Diva exclusively.

I may not have had as many good experiences as Steve but way more than 50% great experiences.

While I read the reviews, the service is highly dependent on two unique individuals. You and girl. She can't read your mind but if you tell her what you want, she is trying to please you and be your fantasy girl. I often try girls who don't have many reviews, and I find those are some of the best for me, they tend to be eager to please you and get a good review.

The price is listed on the website so that is what you will pay. I have noticed no correlation between price and service. A $300 girl can be bad and a $150 girl can be amazing. Most girls seem to raise their prices as they get repeat customers who like them and will pay more. I usually select the lower priced girls as I don't notice a service difference.

As for the photos, some girls do heavily photoshop and some lightly photoshop. But many of the girls post a couple of candid pictures so you can see what she really looks like. Many also post a video which is usually not altered. Use this as part of your selection criteria.

Lastly, the services are between you and the girl but everything else Diva will set up for you. If you want her to wear certain outfit or have a certain music playing. Here are some of my special requests.

I like to kiss and lick a girls face, but I don't like the way make up tastes. So I request the girls not to wear make up.

I live in a cold place so when I monger in winter the girls apartments are often too hot for me. I ask them to turn the heat off 20 minutes before I arrive.

I have read about a few girls not doing services, like I selected a girl who put squirting in her profile but when I arrive she said she could not do that. I like to do CIF sometimes and I have never a had girl refuse if it was in her profile. If it was not in her profile they politely refused.

I think the prices are reasonable at Diva and if you can afford them, you are paying for a better experience. I recommend to try and report back, I know I am glad I tried Diva on my last few visits to London.

MM.

After doing hours of research, it is starting to look like London is going to remain off limits. Talks on the US / UK travel corridor may continue until the autumn! Hoping to go in August. Is it really as unlikely as it sounds?

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/travel/us-uk-travel-corridor-unlikely-before-end-of-summer/ar-AALzNaR[/URL]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2574978]Normally I say to each his own and everyone has an opinion. But there is just blatant misinformation in this post. There are absolutely DIVA Romanian girls at 200 who will give you an excellent experience. And even some still at 150. (I notice both Mermaid and Fortune moved to 200 today that's ok they are worth twice that).

I don't know what this reviewer is doing wrong. Not reading the reviews? Being insulting or demeaning? Because if you go by the well reviewed girls (at least 20 five star reviews) and review their services you will absolutely have a quality experience. Guaranteed.

Perhaps Prelude if you list all the five star Diva girls you have had that gave poor service it would lend credibility, I've had nothing but great five star experience with Rivetta, Mermaid, Fortune, Melty, Kendall, Cambria, Noleta and maybe a few I'm forgetting.

Guys. London remains a top worldwide destination for incall. Just do it right and yes expect to pay 200 these days and you will return year after year like me.[/QUOTE]Read my 2 last reviews, 1 is here down below where I have been threatened by the pimp of the girl I was visiting, stolen 200 £ and ejected in the corridor, that's was a diva girl. The other review is on ukpunting, visited carlita, a lazy rusky chubster, definitely not worth the money I paid. I visited Nour also, this one was good and nice experience.

Guys, I have mongered for years in plenty of countries and London is by far the most expensive and the less satisfactory I experienced. This is the reason why I used to fly to Germany twice a mont before March 2020 to avoid the London escort joke scene. Then if you are satisfied with little for big money, that's your problem but don't say that I writing mis information, I start to think that you might be Sergei,'the Diva pimp.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2575186]Read my 2 last reviews, 1 is here down below where I have been threatened by the pimp of the girl I was visiting, stolen 200 and ejected in the corridor, that's was a diva girl….

Then if you are satisfied with little for big money, that's your problem but don't say that I writing mis information, I start to think that you might be Sergei,'the Diva pimp.[/QUOTE]If I recall right you got scammed by Roberta who was with Babylon. I don't think she's on Diva. Not to say that Babylon is bad. I've had my fair share of good experiences with them too.

Everyone's got their own opinions. You've been to Germany multiple times. Good for you. I've been to multiple countries (only a few in Europe) and by far London's been amazing for me. To each their own.

If anything, you started with the backhand comment of " Mongers who are always claiming to have nice service either lie or are satisfied with little to no service, some ejaculate just seeing a naked SP. " and you seem surprised everyone's riled up. Why the hate?!

This is a nice little forum to share info. Someone on here had a question, folks provided their opinion on Diva, you disagreed. The person who asked the question now has enough feedback to do his own research I for one have had an amazing time with Diva Folks swear by Olina. I tried it once, it was a miss. Everyone has their opinions. Let's keep it civil please.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2575274]If I recall right you got scammed by Roberta who was with Babylon. I don't think she's on Diva. Not to say that Babylon is bad. I've had my fair share of good experiences with them too.

Everyone's got their own opinions. You've been to Germany multiple times. Good for you. I've been to multiple countries (only a few in Europe) and by far London's been amazing for me. To each their own.

If anything, you started with the backhand comment of " Mongers who are always claiming to have nice service either lie or are satisfied with little to no service, some ejaculate just seeing a naked SP. " and you seem surprised everyone's riled up. Why the hate?!

This is a nice little forum to share info. Someone on here had a question, folks provided their opinion on Diva, you disagreed. The person who asked the question now has enough feedback to do his own research I for one have had an amazing time with Diva Folks swear by Olina. I tried it once, it was a miss. Everyone has their opinions. Let's keep it civil please.[/QUOTE]Roberta is on diva but with another name. [URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/light-brown-jenie[/URL].

She has been kicked out of Babylon. I made quite a bit of noise with the agency after her pimp assaulted me, I will never know if there is a link but she changed name and agency around just after the unfortunate experience.

Be also informed that girls are often advertised on multiple agencies at least the girls working for a pimp. The independent girls usually stick with 1 agency. I now try to choose girls with minimal advertising.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2575274]If I recall right you got scammed by Roberta who was with Babylon. I don't think she's on Diva. Not to say that Babylon is bad. I've had my fair share of good experiences with them too.

Everyone's got their own opinions. You've been to Germany multiple times. Good for you. I've been to multiple countries (only a few in Europe) and by far London's been amazing for me. To each their own.

If anything, you started with the backhand comment of " Mongers who are always claiming to have nice service either lie or are satisfied with little to no service, some ejaculate just seeing a naked SP. " and you seem surprised everyone's riled up. Why the hate?!

This is a nice little forum to share info. Someone on here had a question, folks provided their opinion on Diva, you disagreed. The person who asked the question now has enough feedback to do his own research I for one have had an amazing time with Diva Folks swear by Olina. I tried it once, it was a miss. Everyone has their opinions. Let's keep it civil please.[/QUOTE]She is on diva under another name. She has been kicked out of Babylon after I made so much noise that her pimp assaulted me et stole my money. [URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/light-brown-jenie[/URL].

Don't be so sure to know the market.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2575610]She is on diva under another name. She has been kicked out of Babylon after I made so much noise that her pimp assaulted me et stole my money. [URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/light-brown-jenie[/URL].

Don't be so sure to know the market.[/QUOTE]I have been to London many times but never mongered there. I do intend to visit as soon as apposite and intend to participate in our hobby. However, I would be wary of doing incalls due to the possibility of lurking pimps. I will stick to outcalls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2575991]I have been to London many times but never mongered there. I do intend to visit as soon as apposite and intend to participate in our hobby. However, I would be wary of doing incalls due to the possibility of lurking pimps. I will stick to outcalls.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right, if I could I would only do outcalls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2575991]I have been to London many times but never mongered there. I do intend to visit as soon as apposite and intend to participate in our hobby. However, I would be wary of doing incalls due to the possibility of lurking pimps. I will stick to outcalls.[/QUOTE]Omfg. Prelude has so poisoned this forum with his sharkbite story. There are no lurking pimps with Diva girls. Yes he had the one experience. Not with Diva btw. Just like people have had a leg bitten off by a shark. One in a million but sure it happens. We still swim in the ocean.

The London agency incall experience is truly awesome as majority of others will attest.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2576028]Omfg. Prelude has so poisoned this forum with his sharkbite story. There are no lurking pimps with Diva girls. Yes he had the one experience. Not with Diva btw. Just like people have had a leg bitten off by a shark. One in a million but sure it happens. We still swim in the ocean.

The London agency incall experience is truly awesome as majority of others will attest.[/QUOTE]You won't the see the pimp hidden in the kitchen in every girl you will visit, that's correct. What happened to me last December is bad luck and I accept that it goes with he hobby. Also I did this incall late in the evening, from memory it was 11 pm so during the day pimp would not be there.

But anyway, this was one experience. However what you will get in London for extortionate rate is an average bored girl for an average service and this does apply to 50 to 60% of the visits as I said before. Now I'm going to repeat again that some are satisfied with little and some aren't, best is to give a go but I bet the OP who raised the question will report back average experience, that's why I advised that they are far better places in EU to monger.

Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2569161] Has anyone been with Marianna Brunette, the Russian girl at Diva?[/QUOTE]I was with Marianna Brunette from Diva recently, and it was a very good time. She has been on my mental list of girls to try for a while, I'm glad I finally got to her. She was natural with perfect tits that fit well in my hands, fun to play with, with nipples that were made for licking and sucking. She was also unreserved with rimming, which she charges for but does very well. Her owo technique was also very good, and I agree with a previous Diva reviewer who said that it feels like her mouth has become a vibrator. I was able to finish 3 times with her, which is rare, so credit to her for keeping me so excited. The only downsides, if I had to think of any, were that she asked many times if everything was ok and how I liked it, which was a little distracting. Also, she looks like she is in her 30's, as her Diva profile says. She's not old by any means, but the Diva girls run young, and I suspect many of their profile ages are outdated. So Marianna Brunette's profile age might be the only one that's accurate, and she looks more like a 30-something than a 20-something. She was still quite pretty though, overall a winner.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2576320]I was with Marianna Brunette from Diva recently, and it was a very good time. She has been on my mental list of girls to try for a while, I'm glad I finally got to her. She was natural with perfect tits that fit well in my hands, fun to play with, with nipples that were made for licking and sucking. She was also unreserved with rimming, which she charges for but does very well. Her owo technique was also very good, and I agree with a previous Diva reviewer who said that it feels like her mouth has become a vibrator. I was able to finish 3 times with her, which is rare, so credit to her for keeping me so excited. The only downsides, if I had to think of any, were that she asked many times if everything was ok and how I liked it, which was a little distracting. Also, she looks like she is in her 30's, as her Diva profile says. She's not old by any means, but the Diva girls run young, and I suspect many of their profile ages are outdated. So Marianna Brunette's profile age might be the only one that's accurate, and she looks more like a 30-something than a 20-something. She was still quite pretty though, overall a winner.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I will hopefully try her this week and report back too. This is a bit out there but does anyone know of any (ex) ballerinas who escort in London for whatever price?

So the reviews on Diva are super important— looking for a ton of five stars and any negative demerits. Another handy aspect is the review dates. How long has this girl been at it? Usually keeping it under 2-3 years seems advisable. However during Covid they removed the dates (presumably to not date stamp the fact that the girls were working during Covid). But the dates are back now.

There are exceptions to the "keep them recent" rule tho. I see Heidi who was my first London escort ever (booked thru Peachy at the time) is still going strong with 168 five star reviews with her first being in 2014! WTF that's amazing. I found this with Kate at Globe also. She'the been working 8 years and rather than grinding her down it polished her to a fine sheen. Rare. But it happens.

Hi all,

Will be in London for a few days and saw lots of opinions on both agencies. I have been more into the Sugarbabe options back in Dubai but have an itch before I get home. I see several of the adventurous ladies advertised on both sites and without opening a can of worms wondered who is likely to be most easy to deal with and ensure the services are as offered. I prefer a more natural look with a couple of shots in 90 minutes, (CIM and A preferred). Happy to have any suggestions and if any of you head to Dubai I can reciprocate.

Wouldn't advise that just now. Not sure which is worse; 50 degrees in the shade or 10 days quarantine when you land in London.

[QUOTE=Mawgan;2577938]Hi all,

Will be in London for a few days and saw lots of opinions on both agencies. I have been more into the Sugarbabe options back in Dubai but have an itch before I get home. I see several of the adventurous ladies advertised on both sites and without opening a can of worms wondered who is likely to be most easy to deal with and ensure the services are as offered. I prefer a more natural look with a couple of shots in 90 minutes, (CIM and A preferred). Happy to have any suggestions and if any of you head to Dubai I can reciprocate.

Wouldn't advise that just now. Not sure which is worse; 50 degrees in the shade or 10 days quarantine when you land in London.[/QUOTE]Have you met this girl in Dubai [URL]https://discreet-elite.co/dinner-date-role-play-party-busty-gfe-new-model-slim-tall-escort-GABY/[/URL].

She was in London before at 350 £ and I missed her.

To your question, diva or Babylon, does not matter. Roster is shit at the moment in London, all WG are not the freshest, covid and brexit have prevented fresh meet from feeding the market.

OK, thanks. Was just thinking I'd have a quick London point for old times sake. Perhaps not. The profile you sent I don't recognize, nor any of the Dubai based offerings. I do see a couple from the or be who I know I've seen advertised in Dubai however.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2578249]Have you met this girl in Dubai [URL]https://discreet-elite.co/dinner-date-role-play-party-busty-gfe-new-model-slim-tall-escort-GABY/[/URL].

She was in London before at 350 and I missed her.

To your question, diva or Babylon, does not matter. Roster is shit at the moment in London, all WG are not the freshest, covid and brexit have prevented fresh meet from feeding the market.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2576028]Omfg. Prelude has so poisoned this forum with his sharkbite story. There are no lurking pimps with Diva girls. Yes he had the one experience. Not with Diva btw. Just like people have had a leg bitten off by a shark. One in a million but sure it happens. We still swim in the ocean.

The London agency incall experience is truly awesome as majority of others will attest.[/QUOTE]Just my 2 cents- I have 20+ years experience at major cities in Europe and north America and my experience in London has been very good. Also, I have never had a bad encounter using diva. I plan to visit London in August if things open up and have my eye on some of the diva girls. Might also work in a visit with a girl at one of the Asian agencies.

[QUOTE=Gregll;2579556]Just my 2 cents- I have 20+ years experience at major cities in Europe and north America and my experience in London has been very good. Also, I have never had a bad encounter using diva. I plan to visit London in August if things open up and have my eye on some of the diva girls. Might also work in a visit with a girl at one of the Asian agencies.[/QUOTE]Well, give a read to the UK forum ukpunting before you fly over to London, you will see that things have gone down dramatically those last 15 months. The prossies we find here are all overpriced and service is not anymore what it was. I'm not the only one complaining, it looks to be a shared opinion expected from a very few. Hope you are not Sergei otherwise Good first post .

[QUOTE=Gregll;2579556].... Might also work in a visit with a girl at one of the Asian agencies.[/QUOTE]I keep hearing about the Asian agencies but no one seems to report on them here.

AishainvAsian and Olina never failed to impress when I was in London regularly. There were a lot of bait and switch issues with some other agencies, so I stuck to those two exclusively.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2579995]I keep hearing about the Asian agencies but no one seems to report on them here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2579995]I keep hearing about the Asian agencies but no one seems to report on them here.[/QUOTE]I used Olina To meet up with Anna. She was an absolutely amazing wildcat and I had a top experience. Olina was quick and easy to deal with like Diva. Found my report on her. Dont think Ive ever posted. Called Hanna herein.

Hanna - The Spicy Thai Wildcat
I had scheduled Hanna for 5 Pm after my 2 pm with Linden, and before my 8 PM platonic dinner with Pam. I took in a Hendricks Tonic double at the Kings Head to wait the last couple minutes. (This is a great pre-game spot for Bayswater girls). Hit her flat on time. Its a basement flat in the same building as Heidi, my very first Diva girl three years ago. Clean enough but run down and tiny like many girls.

What is soooo great about Hanna is she plays the game full on from start to finish. Like u are her special handsome man with a great cock she cant get enough of. So the sex is great but her submissive, enthusiastic girlfriend vibe is completely mind blowing. She is able to be totally in the moment something Ive only seen from Brasileiras in the past.

Hanna is not your typical Thai girl. She has a slim waist, yes, but real hips and a nice complete ass. Plus she has well done tits with plenty of real girl atop the man-made underpinnings. She has an amazing doll face with huge brown eyes, almost like anime.

As we quickly sort out money I throw four condoms on the bed two durex purple and two Okimoto 01s - cuz I wasnt sure what I wanted to use. Clever girl says we gonna be using all of those? Hehehe. Nah just two. There is very little small talk we are soon making out like teenagers. Clothes are mutually shed and she mentions a shower. So I am surprised when she pulls me down naked on top of her on the bed. We grind and kiss quite a bit, man junk perilously close to lady bits. I love girls with this kind of confidence.

After a bit of that she says lets shower together and leads me by the hand (again this is part of her allure) to the small stall shower. Once inside she lathers me up. First my chest, doing some nice relaxing circles but then my now hard cock. She has lotion soap and it feels great. At this point she gets down on her knees to do it right. Lots more soap and full two hands on sliding under and cleaning asshole, taint, and cock in one continuous motion. Feels great.

She uses the handheld shower to rinse me squeaky clean then starts some excellent BJ there on her knees. Its soooo submissive I feel like a king. After some final back washing she grabs me a towel and we dry off.

Back on the bed we lie side by side and make out some more, working her tits by hand and then sliding down to her pussy. From here I get atop her and again start some grinding. Then, working my way down I enjoy her tits. She must have been a solid B cup to start cuz shes got plenty of soft girl-stuff to work with and her nipples are very responsive. She coos in pleasure.

I work my way slowly down, licking, sucking and light biting, spending a time teasing by licking either side of her pussy and doing arcs with my tongue, up and over her clit but without touching. This teasing seems to work cuz she is wet on arrival. As Im eating her pussy she does something clever Ive never seen before. She starts doing motions on the top of my head with her finger. Like little circles or tapping shes giving me a guided tour of how to eat pussy! Having a good time but no crashing O. Shes saving up for that.

We swap to me on the bottom and she does an excellent BJ. Plenty of licking and BLS mixed in with full on shaft gobbling. Just the way I like it. A bit concerned I will blow too soon but she seems to know when to stop and crawl up and make out with me before diving in again. Very nice.

After some time of this she hops off and grabs a bottle of oil and liberally douses me and her all around our lower regions. I am a little wary of oily play cuz I know how good it feels and Stefany had me blow a stack before I even got inside her. So I am a bit on my guard. But shes using it as a warmup, not a finisher. We do some great Sumata (Japanese word for pussy rubbing along length of dick) and it feels great. Fortunately she has a day or two of stubble, else I probably would have blown right there! And damn I wanna fuck her bad now.

She grabs the 01 which is a good choice. They are sometimes a struggle to get on even the Japanese XL ones are tight but with the oil and great mouth technique it goes on surprisingly easy. As she mounts me cowgirl I notice she is flaming hot inside. This is something I only notice with 01s and only before with Cambria. Think she is worked up for real.

She starts riding traditional cowgirl but then pulls me up into sitting position. This is unusual but clearly working for her. It seems to put my dick at an angle she really likes. Even though I can only serve as a fuck toy from this position she fucks the living hell out of me and rises to a moaning gasping apparent orgasm. We roll over to mish and I get my turn pounding it out. As we relax afterwards I think I could just pack and go, but damn I like her so I ask if I can extend. She says she has someone at 7 but we could extend till 630. Ok its on!

We cuddle a bit more and I ask if she has some wine. She does - a bottle of cold red. I know wine connoisseurs think this is heresy but fuck em I like it and so do my girls (I remember this with Noleta and Christine (Phoenix)). Well we have one big party after that. She just pours one glass which we share and its very sexy. One of us will take a big sip and swallow most of it but then kiss the other and let the wine flow between our mouths. Its goddamn sexy and she comments how much she likes sharing a glass.

I think we both get a little tipsy pounding the wine so quickly and have a wild round 2. I remember some great head and I remember how she masturbates by rapidly tapping her pussy opening. I started with the pillow under her butt, on my knees mish and then leaned forward, her knees on my shoulders. But what I remember the most was my climax. It was the super slow build like I had with Noleta. Like a ten minute long almost there leading to a final earth shattering shot.

Afterwards she had the munchies and pulls out some sort of Thai chicken jerky. Its thinly shaved and you pull it off a loaf. She is pulling off pieces for both of us and feeding me as I sip more wine. Its so girlfriendy and submissive and sexy I just love her more. Truly a great time. High recommend.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2579995]I keep hearing about the Asian agencies but no one seems to report on them here.[/QUOTE]My experience with the Asian agencies is rather limited but I remember having a good experience with Olina. Only tried invasion once and not as good but could have been an anomaly- I am willing to give them another try if I ever get back to London.

[QUOTE=Mawgan;2577938]Hi all,

Will be in London for a few days and saw lots of opinions on both agencies. I have been more into the Sugarbabe options back in Dubai but have an itch before I get home. I see several of the adventurous ladies advertised on both sites and without opening a can of worms wondered who is likely to be most easy to deal with and ensure the services are as offered. I prefer a more natural look with a couple of shots in 90 minutes, (CIM and A preferred). Happy to have any suggestions and if any of you head to Dubai I can reciprocate.

Wouldn't advise that just now. Not sure which is worse; 50 degrees in the shade or 10 days quarantine when you land in London.[/QUOTE]If you ask me I would go either with Babylon or Cleopatra girls.

I suspect I should be happy with Diva and Olina when I return to London, whenever that may be. It was supposed to have been 2021. Oh well!

[QUOTE=Gopo311;2580461]If you ask me I would go either with Babylon or Cleopatra girls.[/QUOTE]PSA: This poster has only posted once before and it was taken down by the admin as commercial posting. So. Yeah no.

I'll be sticking to the two mentioned options. The two Asian options I suggested I was always happy with. I noticed HOD from Milton Keynes has expanded significantly in London. Had a few fun encounters there in the past.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2581152]PSA: This poster has only posted once before and it was taken down by the admin as commercial posting. So. Yeah no.[/QUOTE]

So Tiramisu on Diva had been around a couple years on Diva and I've always wanted to try her. But she's always been just off the list in such a target rich environment. She recently got another five star review and I took a peek at her profile. She has two videos posted now. Wow. No way to photoshop that. She's the real deal hot and sexy. Very much my type. Why anyone with 200£ to spend would roll the loaded dice on adultwork or the like is beyond me.

She duos with Noleta who I have been with and she's both a stone cold hottie and sweet soul. That's going to be one epic duo. It's now officially on my must do list next time I visit.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2581949]So Tiramisu on Diva had been around a couple years on Diva and I've always wanted to try her. But she's always been just off the list in such a target rich environment. She recently got another five star review and I took a peek at her profile. She has two videos posted now. Wow. No way to photoshop that. She's the real deal hot and sexy. Very much my type. Why anyone with 200 to spend would roll the loaded dice on adultwork or the like is beyond me.

She duos with Noleta who I have been with and she's both a stone cold hottie and sweet soul. That's going to be one epic duo. It's now officially on my must do list next time I visit.[/QUOTE]Yep, that video is very nice. I don't regret much in my career as a monger, but I met Tiramisu as I was leaving my session with Noleta (they were roommates at the time and may still live together). She was smoking hot, and I should have immediately booked a session with her! I had just popped twice with Noleta, but I think Tiramisu could have squeezed one or two more shots out of me.

One of my all time favorite punts was with [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny]Henny[/URL] from Diva Escorts. [B]Steve9696[/B], I think you weren't impressed with her pictures on the Diva site, but there are new ones that are closer to what she looked like. In person, she's still even better than these new pictures, but I wanted to flag them for the group to check out. There's a new video, too.

I'm only at the 59 body count level in this hobby (hey, the pandemic hit hard), but Henny is probably #1 based on looks, service, and overall experience. She's probably one of only three or four girls I would go back and experience again and again.

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[QUOTE=Atanion;2582132]One of my all time favorite punts was with [URL=https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-henny]Henny[/URL] from Diva Escorts. [B]Steve9696[/B], I think you weren't impressed with her pictures on the Diva site, but there are new ones that are closer to what she looked like. In person, she's still even better than these new pictures, but I wanted to flag them for the group to check out. There's a new video, too.

I'm only at the 59 body count level in this hobby (hey, the pandemic hit hard), but Henny is probably #1 based on looks, service, and overall experience. She's probably one of only three or four girls I would go back and experience again and again.[/QUOTE]

I was with Henny recently, and my impression was that she was good, but not the best. Her body is tops, it really is like fucking a supermodel. But her face isn't quite as good as Fortune or Noleta, and her service isn't quite as good as Mermaid or Sarah. For example, she wouldn't do BLS, and and her DFK was not bad, but not like Mermaid. On the other hand, she was ok with fingers, and again, an exquisite body. I understand why you would be into Henny. But for my own taste, she was very good, but not one of the greats.

By the way, I think Diva should list BLS as a service. From my experience most girls do it, but when a girl doesn't do it, it can be disappointing for the men that really like it.

[QUOTE=Longanluv;2568494]After more than 20 years in the Far East, I've been stuck back in the UK, for reasons that you can guess, since October. I'd never tried mongering on these shores, but encountered Adultwork, and decided to give it a try. In recent years I've developed a taste for South Indian women, so looked out for Indian / Pakistani etc. My first encounter, at a Heathrow hotel was great. Punjabi (Sikh) girl from Blackburn. No DFK or OWO (but the site made that clear in advance). Mostly fun because of the conversation. Incredibly vivacious and talkative lady, and we went well over the hour, even though the business was completed, just talking.

Second was less impressive. Elegantly titled "Sexy legs and Arse", stated she was Pakistani, called Priscilla, and profile promised a pretty fun GFE. I guess the lack of feedback should have given me a clue. Anyway, I found myself in a rather dingy flat in Epsom, with a reasonably hot Brazilian called Jennifer. I paid for 1 hour, which I'd rather have once a month than 30 minutes every 2 weeks. The sex was OK, but she spoke very little English, and once the deed was done, there seemed not much point but to get out.

I'll choose more carefully next time.[/QUOTE]Try a lady on AW who goes by the name of CarnalDesires. Genuinely Indian origin and a lovely, sexy lady.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2574681]

Conclusion: I advice to avoid mongering in London, the market is just a complete joke and need a serious reset. If you have the opportunity, visit Germany instead, clubs are all or almost all reopening and the SP are younger, prettier and cheaper than the London scam.

.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to German Fkks? I've not stepped on German land since the pandemic and assuming clubs are all closed now.

QUOTE=PreludeWell, you will see that things have gone down dramatically those last 15 months. The prossies we find here are all overpriced and service is not anymore what it was. I'm not the only one complaining, it looks to be a shared opinion expected from a very few.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more and its all in the title.

I predicted this was going to happen long before covid.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2365403]The best years for mongering 're price, quality, variety in London were 2004/2017 . When London was the number one destination for hoes from Poland then they were followed by Romanian girls with their pimps charging lower and lower prices mainly in shitholes in East London.

It was a mongers market who've never had it so good as opening the gates impacted the Sex Industry across the board.

But now the End is nearly there.

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sex-work-brexit-arrests-deportation-uk-eu-migrant-workers-english-collective-prostitutes-a8850816.html[/URL]

Brothels with Line Up in an Area of East London will be the number one plus for the police to deal with and rightly so.

[URL]https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/907184/Romania-EU-prostitutes-trafficked-Redbridge-police-close-one-brothel-per-week[/URL][/QUOTE]The End of Free Movement into The UK from The EU, except for the boat people doing the run from Calais, France.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2365403][URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sex-work-brexit-arrests-deportation-uk-eu-migrant-workers-english-collective-prostitutes-a8850816.html[/URL]

Brothels with Line Up in an Area of East London will be the number one plus for the police to deal with and rightly so.

[URL]https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/907184/Romania-EU-prostitutes-trafficked-Redbridge-police-close-one-brothel-per-week[/URL][/QUOTE]Man,

What a bummer. London was my most accessible, legal, safe go-to spot across the ocean. Unfortunate that this shit is happening. You think politics, Brexit etc. Won't impact you and it's just another news story and news like this pops up. Sad.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2585718]Man,

What a bummer. London was my most accessible, legal, safe go-to spot across the ocean. Unfortunate that this shit is happening. You think politics, Brexit etc. Won't impact you and it's just another news story and news like this pops up. Sad.[/QUOTE]Hold on because the express paper is dated as published in 2018. Yes it happened but this is not new and nothing out of the blue.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2585718]Man,

What a bummer. London was my most accessible, legal, safe go-to spot across the ocean. Unfortunate that this shit is happening. You think politics, Brexit etc. Won't impact you and it's just another news story and news like this pops up. Sad.[/QUOTE]Yes man, why is this happening? East London is the safest place with most European ladies. Reasonable charges with lots of beauty and action.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2585943]Hold on because the express paper is dated as published in 2018. Yes it happened but this is not new and nothing out of the blue.[/QUOTE]Oh yea, didn't notice that. Hopefully things don't go to the shitter. I've got blue balls and was counting down the days to my next trip there.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2586123]Oh yea, didn't notice that. Hopefully things don't go to the shitter. I've got blue balls and was counting down the days to my next trip there.[/QUOTE]Don't tell me you 'the cross the pond just to shag London based working girls? Should you do that, there are better places in Europe, Germany and Spain first, more girls, more infrastructure / specialized clubs and far far cheaper. If you like to throw cash away, Switzerland has the best girls. I would avoid London like the plague as for the paid sex scene.

We've been there before talking about whether there were Venues with Line Ups of girls to choose from in London?

Well here is a very recent well documented proof that indeed such venues do exist starting at £300 an hour. I heard.

About them long before watching this documentary, But it was something that didn't interest me.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyrXYXvL8TM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2586452]We've been there before talking about whether there were Venues with Line Ups of girls to choose from in London?

Well here is a very recent well documented proof that indeed such venues do exist starting at 300 an hour. I heard.

I heard about them long before watching this documentary, But it was something that didn't interest me.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyrXYXvL8TM[/URL][/QUOTE]A very interesting building with many tales. The Ten Floors of *****s is still going. A booking with an escort based in Kensington & Chelsea (South Kensington) with Well Known Agencies or looking up a girl on adult work based on that location, will most probably take you there.

[URL]https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-londons-huge-indoor-red-13894792[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2586452]We've been there before talking about whether there were Venues with Line Ups of girls to choose from in London?

Well here is a very recent well documented proof that indeed such venues do exist starting at 300 an hour. I heard.

About them long before watching this documentary, But it was something that didn't interest me.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyrXYXvL8TM[/URL][/QUOTE]As we are talking about brothels, I had over the years some amazing times at a very well known British run Brothel for reasonable prices and at safe locations. The best times I experienced there, were at their first Venue in Queens Gate, South Kensington.

LOL, it's such a British Affair, it's run or was run by an ex British Cop. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rfXgT4oE2A[/URL].

Sex for Sale: Inside a British Brothel. BBC News.

I even got the chance to bang his Girlfriend at that time Olga for only £70 half hour.

My last mongering experience few weeks ago was with a very lovely Romanian Girl [URL]http://houseofdivine.com/londonescort.php?girlid=3359Maya.http://houseofdivine.com/londonescort.php?girlid=3359[/URL].

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2586444]Don't tell me you 'the cross the pond just to shag London based working girls? Should you do that, there are better places in Europe, Germany and Spain first, more girls, more infrastructure / specialized clubs and far far cheaper. If you like to throw cash away, Switzerland has the best girls. I would avoid London like the plague as for the paid sex scene.[/QUOTE]Nope. I cross the pond for work, not "just to shag" & UK's where work / travel's usually taken me. London's been good to me so far. Easy access to pretty women in a safe country where the hobby's legal.

Thanks for all the input though. For someone who hates on London so much, you sure spend a lot of time on the 'London' forum.

I'll keep all your recommendations in mind. Cheers.

Pretty much as the title says, I enjoy a good sensual massage with a happy ending as a break from seeing escorts who offer regular service. In the past I've visited Fantasia in central London (which I would recommend) as well as random Thai or Chinese places whenever one has caught my eye at the right time. Outcomes have varied from terrible to great, including memorably getting a bit of discreet (protected) full service from a 40-year old but still firm and slim Chinese MILF on several occasions.

Never had much luck with Service Providers offering massage on Adultwork, but I recently tried a Tantric practitioner directory (can't remember which one, but it is on the first page of Google results for "Tantric Practitioner London", so go nuts) and followed some links to "Nicole's London Sensual Massage Naturist, Nuru, and FBSM in London", a personal site for the mixed race provider I ended up booking (it should just come straight up when Googled). Nicole's prices ranged from £100-£300, depending on the length of the booking and service you went with (she seems to do a bit of BDSM themed bookings, plus nuru, but I just went for the basic 1 hour massage myself). You can knock a bit off the price by leaving a deposit via an online booking through her website, for those of you not too bothered by privacy concerns (I. E. Not married or going into politics). In my case the booking would have been £100 but was knocked down to £80, about what I'd pay for a typical hour at a normal massage parlour, and far superior to the rates you see quoted on Adultwork or some of these Tantra ads with curvy EEs on display.

Nicole operates near Aldgate East out of a small (and not untypical for London, where space is gold) but very nicely furnished flat, with lots of massage-related items about the place (incense, a huge mirror, tantric-themed knick-knacks and water for clients). I was impressed, the place looked like some effort had been made to create a sensual atmosphere and put the customer in the mood. A screen shields the rest of the flat from view to create the illusion you're in a spa-like space, which I thought was a nice touch. Nicole herself is slim and quite busty compared with her pictures. She's definitely the same woman as shown on her website, expect she looks younger in person and claims to be thirty, putting her on the younger side of most SPs I see working as naturist masseuses. Usually I add 5-7 years to any age an SP claims to be, but I think in Nicole's case it might be true, as I'd guessed mid-late 20's before she corrected me.

As a person I think she's quite into the spiritual side of things and comes across as friendly, though I do get the impression she's not one to be trifled with either. When I arrived we introduced ourselves, I hopped in the shower, and then we started the massage. Nicole goes topless rather than fully nude for this but allows you to touch, just not the nipples; I assume if you want more you need to book a nuru massage perhaps. In any case, I wasn't after B2B or I'd have booked it from someone who specifically advertised that. Her massage technique was good, as was the attention that got paid to my johnson. This was a happy ending I was able to relax into rather than have to force a climax with some poor woman hammering away with both hands. Overall I'd say I'd found Nicole to offer a fair service for a fair price and I certainly intend on going back when the mood strikes me.

[QUOTE=Longanluv;2568494]After more than 20 years in the Far East, I've been stuck back in the UK, for reasons that you can guess, since October. I'd never tried mongering on these shores, but encountered Adultwork, and decided to give it a try. In recent years I've developed a taste for South Indian women, so looked out for Indian / Pakistani etc. My first encounter, at a Heathrow hotel was great. Punjabi (Sikh) girl from Blackburn. No DFK or OWO (but the site made that clear in advance). Mostly fun because of the conversation. Incredibly vivacious and talkative lady, and we went well over the hour, even though the business was completed, just talking.

Second was less impressive. Elegantly titled "Sexy legs and Arse", stated she was Pakistani, called Priscilla, and profile promised a pretty fun GFE. I guess the lack of feedback should have given me a clue. Anyway, I found myself in a rather dingy flat in Epsom, with a reasonably hot Brazilian called Jennifer. I paid for 1 hour, which I'd rather have once a month than 30 minutes every 2 weeks. The sex was OK, but she spoke very little English, and once the deed was done, there seemed not much point but to get out.

I'll choose more carefully next time.[/QUOTE]I too go through phases where I enjoy a punt with a South Asian lady, but I've struggled with getting good ones in London. Your story about your second experience made me laugh, firstly because we've all been there (I routinely ignore any pictures of East Asian escorts on Adultwork because it is pure potluck who you get, good or bad) and secondly because of the flat description. I made the mistake of booking a Chinese SP back in 2020 before the pandemic in Greenwich and had a nightmarish experience where I ended up at a brothel run by the world' most ineffectual Chinese elderly male, with the ladies wandering around between sessions in the hallway in their underwear, clients among them (I. E. We were bumping into each other face to face) and a filthy communal shower. Suffice to say that I've not been back, but even the best of us get caught out from time to time. Out of curiosity, is the Punjabi girl's profile still up?

Hi all,

Where I can find popular Canadian cum bollywood actress Noura Fatehi similar lady in London.

[QUOTE=SonnyJim2;2587027] I made the mistake of booking a Chinese SP back in 2020 before the pandemic in Greenwich and had a nightmarish experience where I ended up at a brothel run by the world' most ineffectual Chinese elderly male, with the ladies wandering around between sessions in the hallway in their underwear, clients among them (I. E. We were bumping into each other face to face) [/QUOTE]One more Brothel in London with a Line Up, But it comes with the Territory.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2582512]I was with Henny recently, and my impression was that she was good, but not the best. Her body is tops, it really is like fucking a supermodel. But her face isn't quite as good as Fortune or Noleta, and her service isn't quite as good as Mermaid or Sarah. For example, she wouldn't do BLS, and and her DFK was not bad, but not like Mermaid. On the other hand, she was ok with fingers, and again, an exquisite body. I understand why you would be into Henny. But for my own taste, she was very good, but not one of the greats.

By the way, I think Diva should list BLS as a service. From my experience most girls do it, but when a girl doesn't do it, it can be disappointing for the men that really like it.[/QUOTE]I really liked Henny's face, but, yeah, few people can top Mermaid in terms of pure passion. I think I said in one of my reviews that an ideal girl would have Henny's body, Noleta's face, Mermaid's freak, and Fortune's spirit. But, therein lies the rub, right? You can't find everything you want in one lady. And, so the hobby goes on. . .

I'm likely to botch some of the details because this adventure happened many years ago long before the internet was faster than dial-up. Somehow, I found a brothel that was in a rather large house I want to say near the A-6 fairly close to London. Apparently, it was well-known in mongering circles. The house itself was Victorian and had typical Victorian-era furniture. When I entered, I was met by the owner. He ushered me to a parlor and discussed services, prices, etc. There wasn't a physical line-up. But, he handed me aa rather large photo album where I could leaf through the pictures and pick out my chosen one. Once I made that decision, he went upstairs to apprise the lady that I had selected her. I waited for a few more minutes and either she came downstairs or the owner brought me upstairs. We then proceeded to consummate our relationship. I'm curious if anyone can remember any more details, especially the name and if it really was along the A-6.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2587195]One more Brothel in London with a Line Up, But it comes with the Territory.[/QUOTE]Ha, I wish it had been that organised. No, the receptionist just waved each client through as they came in the door instead of checking them for a minute or two to space us out, and we milled about in the hallway, while another client using the shower raced past with their woman in tow. I more or less grabbed a pretty late 20's something girl by accident as she popped her head out the door to ask in Mandarin what the eff was going on to the tiny elderly gent who wandered in from reception after us in a daze. Service was a mixed bag too, she was a bit of a looker with good English and bedroom skills, but kept breaking the mood by asking for more money every time we got onto a new stage. Fortunately for me it had been months since I'd had any due to the lockdown, so I was able to come and then get out, but it was quite the worst run brothel I've ever been in, and I've punt across the UK and in a couple of other countries too. Unlike Edinburgh or other UK cities London doesn't seem to really do brothels much. Most of the action is in massage parlours (that actually give normal customers massages) or with indies.

[QUOTE=Max#01;2589026]I'm likely to botch some of the details because this adventure happened many years ago long before the internet was faster than dial-up. Somehow, I found a brothel that was in a rather large house I want to say near the A-6 fairly close to London. Apparently, it was well-known in mongering circles. The house itself was Victorian and had typical Victorian-era furniture. When I entered, I was met by the owner. He ushered me to a parlor and discussed services, prices, etc. There wasn't a physical line-up. But, he handed me aa rather large photo album where I could leaf through the pictures and pick out my chosen one. Once I made that decision, he went upstairs to apprise the lady that I had selected her. I waited for a few more minutes and either she came downstairs or the owner brought me upstairs. We then proceeded to consummate our relationship. I'm curious if anyone can remember any more details, especially the name and if it really was along the A-6.[/QUOTE]Perhaps long gone. I wish there were places like that now as I like those types of establishments. I can go probably a little more than decade before that when one entered a phone booth and was greeted by dozens of call cards stuck on the inside with pictures of girls, their prices and phone numbers. BTW back then the prices were usually 25 - 35 pounds per hour.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2589343]Perhaps long gone. I wish there were places like that now as I like those types of establishments. I can go probably a little more than decade before that when one entered a phone booth and was greeted by dozens of call cards stuck on the inside with pictures of girls, their prices and phone numbers. BTW back then the prices were usually 25 - 35 pounds per hour.[/QUOTE]I share your nostalgia.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2587634]I really liked Henny's face, but, yeah, few people can top Mermaid in terms of pure passion. I think I said in one of my reviews that an ideal girl would have Henny's body, Noleta's face, Mermaid's freak, and Fortune's spirit. But, therein lies the rub, right? You can't find everything you want in one lady. And, so the hobby goes on..[/QUOTE]I'm passing through London in a couple of weeks. Think I may need to try a duo with a pair of bi three holes. Expensive way to spend a couple of hours but I'm due a present to myself.

Passing by London in a couple of weeks time. Suggest a few good contacts for cunnilingus?

PM active, cheers.

Hello!

Has anyone met Elle or Bambi at Diva? Both seem right up my alley. Natural, A-Level and allows Filming.

Alternatively, any suggestions for those they fit the above bill? A-Level optional and doesn't necessarily have to be on Diva.

Also, any Asians who allow filming?

Thank you!

Cheers.

Hi friend,

Where I can get best tantric massage in london.

Please guide.

Well mostly.

Had a few hit and miss sessions post covid, but finally found someone I liked.

The Blueberry girl on Adultwork, fun and kinky Polish woman, says she is 26 but I'd guess a few years older.

A great little flat near King Cross, well stocked with toys and outfits, the Blueberry girl herself is good looking but a little out of shape. Not enough to distract, but not quite like her photos.

She is kinky and loves a good roleplay, she really gets into character and is very attentive to your needs, highly recommended.

Second woman was April at House of Divine, slim, great body, decent service but not great. I'm adding her because after a dozen of flops when it came to service providers she was the second best of the bunch.

Both are well priced at #150 an hour.

[QUOTE=StevenJones;2599641].... I'm adding her because after a dozen of flops when it came to service providers she was the second best of the bunch.

Both are well priced at #150 an hour.[/QUOTE]Two out of a dozen. Ouch. London's not sounding so good. Thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2599676]Two out of a dozen. Ouch. London's not sounding so good. Thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]Once again it's just that people are doing it WRONG! Spin the adultwork roulette wheel at your peril. Or go with Diva well reviewed girl with 90% chance of an awesome outcome.

Turgid you know FKK right? These guys are going to Dietz when they could go to Sharks! And then concluding FKK sucks. So wrong! Just completely doing it wrong. London is awesome.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599838]Once again it's just that people are doing it WRONG! Spin the adultwork roulette wheel at your peril. Or go with Diva well reviewed girl with 90% chance of an awesome outcome.

Turgid you know FKK right? These guys are going to Dietz when they could go to Sharks! And then concluding FKK sucks. So wrong! Just completely doing it wrong. London is awesome.[/QUOTE]I know some of you are familiar w my adventures and may just take me at my word. But it occurred to me I should back this with data. Here's my Diva track record from Apr 2018 thru Feb 2020. Overall experience with any minor issues noted.

Heidi. Amazing. CBJ but totally worth it. Repeated.

Hermione. Amazing. Rocked my world. Repeated.

Cambria. Amazing. So passionate. Repeated.

Kendall. Amazing. Best DeeCups bar none. Repeated.

Terra. Solid. Mechanical GFE.

Rivetta. Amazing. Best BBBJ. A little heavier than pics. Totally worth it.

Talita. Solid. Too slim for my taste.

Sweetie. Amazing. Had a little misunderstanding but she was a pro about it. Repeated.

Fortune. Amazing. Best ass on planet earth. LFK. Repeated.

Mermaid. Amazing. Best DFK on the planet. Repeated.

Melty. Amazing. All around sex kitten. Repeated.

Pantera. Solid. Upstaged by Melty.

Linden. Solid. GFE but a bit meh.

Anna (Olina) - Amazing. GFE sex kitten.

Dont honestly understand how anyone could fuck this up. Go with a well reviewed girl who offers the services u want and u are attracted to. Done deal. Nothing more close to a guarantee worldwide (maybe Globe).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599844]I know some of you are familiar w my adventures and may just take me at my word. But it occurred to me I should back this with data. Here's my Diva track record from Apr 2018 thru Feb 2020. Overall experience with any minor issues noted.

Heidi. Amazing. CBJ but totally worth it. Repeated.

Hermione. Amazing. Rocked my world. Repeated.

Cambria. Amazing. So passionate. Repeated.

Kendall. Amazing. Best DeeCups bar none. Repeated.

Terra. Solid. Mechanical GFE.

Rivetta. Amazing. Best BBBJ. A little heavier than pics. Totally worth it.

Talita. Solid. Too slim for my taste.

Sweetie. Amazing. Had a little misunderstanding but she was a pro about it. Repeated.

Fortune. Amazing. Best ass on planet earth. LFK. Repeated.

Mermaid. Amazing. Best DFK on the planet. Repeated.

Melty. Amazing. All around sex kitten. Repeated.

Pantera. Solid. Upstaged by Melty.

Linden. Solid. GFE but a bit meh.

Anna (Olina) - Amazing. GFE sex kitten.

Dont honestly understand how anyone could fuck this up. Go with a well reviewed girl who offers the services u want and u are attracted to. Done deal. Nothing more close to a guarantee worldwide (maybe Globe).[/QUOTE]I concur with Steve. I am super super picky and I have had more good times than Bad times with Diva girls, and I have a few mind Blowing times with Diva girls (Melty, Elementa, Flory, Rushana, Stefsia, LaliBela, Brinley).

Steve how can you omit Flory, you recommended her to me, and she was my favorite Diva girl.

MM.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599844]I know some of you are familiar w my adventures and may just take me at my word. But it occurred to me I should back this with data. Here's my Diva track record from Apr 2018 thru Feb 2020. Overall experience with any minor issues noted.

Heidi. Amazing. CBJ but totally worth it. Repeated.

Hermione. Amazing. Rocked my world. Repeated.

Cambria. Amazing. So passionate. Repeated.

Kendall. Amazing. Best DeeCups bar none. Repeated.

Terra. Solid. Mechanical GFE.

Rivetta. Amazing. Best BBBJ. A little heavier than pics. Totally worth it.

Talita. Solid. Too slim for my taste.

Sweetie. Amazing. Had a little misunderstanding but she was a pro about it. Repeated.

Fortune. Amazing. Best ass on planet earth. LFK. Repeated.

Mermaid. Amazing. Best DFK on the planet. Repeated.

Melty. Amazing. All around sex kitten. Repeated.

Pantera. Solid. Upstaged by Melty.

Linden. Solid. GFE but a bit meh.

Anna (Olina) - Amazing. GFE sex kitten.

Dont honestly understand how anyone could fuck this up. Go with a well reviewed girl who offers the services u want and u are attracted to. Done deal. Nothing more close to a guarantee worldwide (maybe Globe).[/QUOTE]Doh! Forgot Flory! Thanks Marelobomex. And Noleta too who is spectacular. Duh. Just goes to show how many great girls there are. So to complete the list (I think!

Flory. Amazing. She was brand new. I told her I want to kiss more deeply and she dove right in. And want her to look at the me while we fuck in mish and she melted me with her liquid browns even as I came inside her. Lovely girl.

Noleta. Amazing. Great DFK and BBBJ. Offered wine from her fridge. Just tops. Has new bolt ones which I have not seen.

Rates are final rates?

[QUOTE=Mojo444;2600132]Rates are final rates?[/QUOTE]Yes. Each girls posted rates are exactly what you pay. Diva is super professional. Girls all say it's the best agency as well FWIW.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2599676]Two out of a dozen. Ouch. London's not sounding so good. Thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]I've not really dipped my toes int the agency world, but keep hearing good things about Diva. Adultwork has been hit by Covid, higher prices, poorer service and a lot of disappointment for me!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599838]Once again it's just that people are doing it WRONG! Spin the adultwork roulette wheel at your peril. Or go with Diva well reviewed girl with 90% chance of an awesome outcome.

Turgid you know FKK right? These guys are going to Dietz when they could go to Sharks! And then concluding FKK sucks. So wrong! Just completely doing it wrong. London is awesome.[/QUOTE]I'll give Diva a go!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599873]Doh! Forgot Flory! Thanks Marelobomex. And Noleta too who is spectacular. Duh. Just goes to show how many great girls there are. So to complete the list (I think!

Flory. Amazing. She was brand new. I told her I want to kiss more deeply and she dove right in. And want her to look at the me while we fuck in mish and she melted me with her liquid browns even as I came inside her. Lovely girl.

Noleta. Amazing. Great DFK and BBBJ. Offered wine from her fridge. Just tops. Has new bolt ones which I have not seen.[/QUOTE]I'll have to give some of them a go.

I did have another good session, Mimi from Olinas. Very pretty, great figure and super accommodating. Gave everything a go, was willing to please and was just fun. Really enjoyed my time with her, and trying to get another session in she seems to be a popular lady.

As usual, I totally agree with Steve9696. Go with a well-reviewed Diva girl, and you won't go wrong. If you look through my posts, I shared my rubric for looking at a Diva listing.

I also want to +1 Fortune and Noleta who I had great great experiences with.

I also wanted to add Mermaid who is a Diva girl who kisses like no other and was amazingly freaky in bed.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2601841]As usual, I totally agree with Steve9696. Go with a well-reviewed Diva girl, and you won't go wrong. If you look through my posts, I shared my rubric for looking at a Diva..[/QUOTE]I third this. Go Diva!

One suggestion. If you have time on your hands, you can try and look up other agencies where the same Diva girl is listed. Maybe you'll find a better donation. To be honest, I haven't saved any with any other agencies, but with adultwork. Do recall one of the Diva girls being on as an independent.

That being said, some of the agencies like barracuda may have more up to date, real pics. So if you find any pics that are enhanced on Diva, you may find the actual pic on another website.

Happy exploring!

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2602438]I third this. Go Diva!

One suggestion. If you have time on your hands, you can try and look up other agencies where the same Diva girl is listed. Maybe you'll find a better donation. To be honest, I haven't saved any with any other agencies, but with adultwork. Do recall one of the Diva girls being on as an independent.

That being said, some of the agencies like barracuda may have more up to date, real pics. So if you find any pics that are enhanced on Diva, you may find the actual pic on another website.

Happy exploring![/QUOTE]Quite right that you can find the girls — often under different names on other sites and a good cross reference. I've never found their rates to be different other than MORE once or twice on the other sites. It reminds me how I found Diva in the first place.

I had just figured out that even tho London strip clubs suck maybe the escort scene would be OK and I stumbled on a site that listed all escort agencies and how many girls they have. I tossed out any with less than 25 girls (a lot) and then studiously visited all the rest. Maybe fifty agencies at least. Then I got down to details like do they post negative reviews and services etc.

Ended up coming up with Admiral (where I did my first visit), Diva, Peachy, and Butterfly Touch (more a specialty niche). Admiral and Diva carryall the same girls. Can't recall about Peachy. I think Diva won me over with their listing of services. I remember I'the find a girl on Admiral and then go look on Diva at her services. At some point I just switched over.

It was a TON of research to get to this point but I enjoyed it (browsing pretty girls and fantasizing never sucked!) and now happy with the fruits of my labor!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2602497]Quite right that you can find the girls often under different names on other sites and a good cross reference. I've never found their rates to be different other than MORE once or twice on the other sites. It reminds me how I found Diva in the first place.

I had just figured out that even tho London strip clubs suck maybe the escort scene would be OK and I stumbled on a site that listed all escort agencies and how many girls they have. I tossed out any with less than 25 girls (a lot) and then studiously visited all the rest. Maybe fifty agencies at least. Then I got down to details like do they post negative reviews and services etc.

Ended up coming up with Admiral (where I did my first visit), Diva, Peachy, and Butterfly Touch (more a specialty niche). Admiral and Diva carryall the same girls. Can't recall about Peachy. I think Diva won me over with their listing of services. I remember I'the find a girl on Admiral and then go look on Diva at her services. At some point I just switched over.

It was a TON of research to get to this point but I enjoyed it (browsing pretty girls and fantasizing never sucked!) and now happy with the fruits of my labor![/QUOTE]Refreshed myself on admiral and I like the way you can visually browse better. Plus they have some stuff Diva doesn't have. For three girls I've been with they had selfies or videos that Diva didn't post — which is great stuff. If you get a chance go see Maura's second video on Admiral. Maura = Fortune. You get to see the finest ass in the world in video format! Better in person but you get the idea.

Thanks to all the articulate swinging dicks for writing the thorough reports on the fine ladies of London. I've just booked a ticket for a one week November visit. Searched the threads hoping to find a companion for a dinner date, with an overnight booking and didn't see much. Would be a blast to find a hot English speaking lady for 800-1,000 GBP that can hold a dinner conversation then rock my world after. Anyone have experience with agencies and overnight stays? I have visited adultwork and most seem too good to be true. Any independent providers that fit my needs? Any ideas on how to find what I'm looking for would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Hi guys,

I did RTFF but still I would be grateful for some recommendations on East Asiens who can join me in the hotel in the Canary Wharf area. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2602497]…I've never found their rates to be different other than MORE once or twice on the other sites. It reminds me how I found Diva in the first place..[/QUOTE]True. I think only on AW did I find cheaper rates. I forget who it was, will post here when I remember. If she is still working. That being said, with AW, given it's an independent posting, I've always felt it could be a hit or miss without the backing of an agency who is also looking to make sure you have the best service possible. And overall, Diva's beaten all expectations for me. Reminds me. I haven't logged into the membership (rates) section in a while. Should keep my account active X).

Also, I used peachy once but if I remember right, Diva usually shuts after around 2 AM (or it could be Babylon) but Peachy was open even though it had more or less the same women.

As for websites, not to get picky but one added bonus of some of the other websites (like Barracuda. Though I've never used their service) is that you can apply multiple filters at once. For example DT+Filming+ others whereas in Diva it's slightly more tedious. First world problems LOL.

[QUOTE=Exubrnce;2602630]Thanks to all the articulate swinging dicks for writing the thorough reports on the fine ladies of London. I've just booked a ticket for a one week November visit. Searched the threads hoping to find a companion for a dinner date, with an overnight booking and didn't see much. Would be a blast to find a hot English speaking lady for 800-1,000 GBP that can hold a dinner conversation then rock my world after. Anyone have experience with agencies and overnight stays? I have visited adultwork and most seem too good to be true. Any independent providers that fit my needs? Any ideas on how to find what I'm looking for would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You should try Seeking Arrangement. Google it.

[QUOTE=Exubrnce;2602630]Thanks to all the articulate swinging dicks for writing the thorough reports on the fine ladies of London. I've just booked a ticket for a one week November visit. Searched the threads hoping to find a companion for a dinner date, with an overnight booking and didn't see much. Would be a blast to find a hot English speaking lady for 800-1,000 GBP that can hold a dinner conversation then rock my world after. Anyone have experience with agencies and overnight stays? I have visited adultwork and most seem too good to be true. Any independent providers that fit my needs? Any ideas on how to find what I'm looking for would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Should be easy to find via reputable agency. Not shilling but I've had good luck in the past with Bijoux ladies, and the P. O. Is very helpful and responsive. She even gave me a huge discount once back in the day because of a weird date with a girl who got super drunk and walked out mid-act. I haven't seen any of their current line-up (I haven't been able to visit London since pre-pandemic days), but aside from that one girl, I've seen a half dozen others over the years and all have been fantastic. I'm sure other reputable agencies (read: non-Eastern European, non-Asian) will be similarly good options.

[QUOTE=Exubrnce;2602630]Thanks to all the articulate swinging dicks for writing the thorough reports on the fine ladies of London. I've just booked a ticket for a one week November visit. Searched the threads hoping to find a companion for a dinner date, with an overnight booking and didn't see much. Would be a blast to find a hot English speaking lady for 800-1,000 GBP that can hold a dinner conversation then rock my world after. Anyone have experience with agencies and overnight stays? I have visited adultwork and most seem too good to be true. Any independent providers that fit my needs? Any ideas on how to find what I'm looking for would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Yeah. Steer clear of adult work. Def not finding a quality girl there. Agencies can provide overnights but it's going to be more than 1000 GBP and with prob not a top dinner companion. All the Diva girls list overnight but it's pricey and Romanian hotties were never known for their dinner small talk.

As Turgid says Seeking is a good bet with two caveats:

1. Takes a shit ton of time to weed out the crap and find a great girl. Count on hours and hours of research and chat. But you can find a real girl who wi be just awesome. And a lot less than 1000.

2. Seeking is a lot more like a relationship. Like I have never ahead told a girl I want her to spend the night. It's just something that happens if they like you.

There is a thread for Seeking Arrangements found way at the bottom under Dating Agencies. Bunch of guys in there that can help. I can repost my guide if you are willing to put in the time.

Oh and sure u know this but don’t book an overnight with an agency girl u have never been with. Book and hour or two and if u dig her then u can book an overnight. U may also find if the chemistry is right an agency girl will go off the books with u for an overnight. (And obv keep on the down low if so…)

I wouldn't say stay clear of adultwork. Most of escorts start there and most escorts who have their sites are on [URL]adultwork.com[/URL].

To find a good escort on adultwork as it comes for London, look into girls charging 350-600 for 2 h, then you will find decent people.

If you are looking at girls charging 140 for 1 h, then you might get burn.

[QUOTE=Max#01;2589026]I'm likely to botch some of the details because this adventure happened many years ago long before the internet was faster than dial-up. Somehow, I found a brothel that was in a rather large house I want to say near the A-6 fairly close to London. Apparently, it was well-known in mongering circles. The house itself was Victorian and had typical Victorian-era furniture. When I entered, I was met by the owner. He ushered me to a parlor and discussed services, prices, etc. There wasn't a physical line-up. But, he handed me aa rather large photo album where I could leaf through the pictures and pick out my chosen one. Once I made that decision, he went upstairs to apprise the lady that I had selected her. I waited for a few more minutes and either she came downstairs or the owner brought me upstairs. We then proceeded to consummate our relationship. I'm curious if anyone can remember any more details, especially the name and if it really was along the A-6.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I am not familiar with this particular establishment.

There used one following a similar model (in the mid to late 90's) in South Kensington. Just around the corner from the station.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2603129]You should try Seeking Arrangement. Google it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the recommendation. I've had good luck finding young women here in the state's via SA so am familiar with the "dance" required to find the right one. I will definitely give it a try!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2603177]Yeah. Steer clear of adult work. Def not finding a quality girl there. Agencies can provide overnights but it's going to be more than 1000 GBP and with prob not a top dinner companion. All the Diva girls list overnight but it's pricey and Romanian hotties were never known for their dinner small talk.

As Turgid says Seeking is a good bet with two caveats:

1. Takes a shit ton of time to weed out the crap and find a great girl. Count on hours and hours of research and chat. But you can find a real girl who wi be just awesome. And a lot less than 1000.

2. Seeking is a lot more like a relationship. Like I have never ahead told a girl I want her to spend the night. It's just something that happens if they like you.

There is a thread for Seeking Arrangements found way at the bottom under Dating Agencies. Bunch of guys in there that can help. I can repost my guide if you are willing to put in the time.[/QUOTE]I do appreciate your insight. Good points I hadn't considered. Exactly what this forum is all about! Thank you.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2603138]Should be easy to find via reputable agency.[/QUOTE]Seems like this thread only cares about Diva's, Peachy's and Admiral. How come no one has ever commented on the high end UK Options available? I know they're expensive, but why not try it at least once?

Anal*Thai*Ayumi.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/3578837[/URL]

£100 for 30 minutes including Anal.

Location Baystwater.

I saw on Friday, she has a smoking figure, about 165 cm slim with decent boob job. Made it clear in communications that I would like A levels, this was agreed to, however I made a relatively last minute request that she was naked when I arrived. Again agreed, but did not do, so think she has someone who deals with requests and the message did not get through.

Flat is a bedsit, but with a decent if small shower.

Session was night, great oral technique which was covered at my request, good ball action and some rimming, which was different to what I have experienced before, more fluttering than real licking, still good.

Then the main event. In missionary, thought she might go for some pussy first, but I guess having seen my request went straight to the backdoor. Went in with the usual POP. Kept her hand nearby, not really restricting access but I think to ensure she had control, and to stroke my balls and bring the end to a sooner conclusion.

Allowed kissing and made a few noises and facial expressions, but nothing that was too discouraging and did not stop me.

Finished in the bag.

The usual very courteous Thai clean up and assistance with dressing.

All in all quite pleasant, better than expected. Not sure if I would return. But a decent option if you want a solid 30 minute Anal option.

Raisa. X.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/6320609[/URL]

This was about 2 weeks ago and was the third punt of three in the day.

15 minutes £50.

Covered oral, with positions.

Location near Farringdon.

This was my third punt of the day, I hoped I had saved the best to last and was as a P+the with a fit young girl.

This was better than expected, I had low hopes as I thought I might struggle as this was the third time that days, but although there was some photoshop, she was right up my street. Size 10 about 165 cm with the obligatory working girl heels off. Stripped and straight down to business. Very complimentary of my body and cock.

Unfortunately declined my additional payment for anal as was too big.

Covered oral, technique was average, but when the girl is your fantasy you forgive a lot. Vocal during sex and offering lots of encouragement.

Clearly trying to get it over with, which is fair enough in a 15 minute slot.

Post service, nice chat and keen for return business.

Have noticed she has gone, am hoping she will come back as she is definitely my type for a P+the.

AnayssX.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/5439322[/URL]

This was about 2 weeks ago and was the second punt of three in the day.

15 minutes £50.

Covered oral, with positions.

Location near Liverpool Street.

This was my second punt of the day and was always meant as a P+the with a hottie.

This was as expected, she was hot but was slightly too skinny by my tastes.

Clearly thinks this is beneath her and only doing until her modelling career takes off / she marries an oligarch.

Covered oral of reasonable technique followed by doggy with dirty talk. Can take a decent hammering without complaint, though I think if you took too long I can see her complaining.

Also works for Diva, and I hope but doubt she offered better service.

Slightly off putting she has some form of sinus at the base of her spine, that kind of looks like a second arse hole.

Would not return as there are plenty of other P+the options and new ones every week.

Elina*Swallow+Anal.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/4402758[/URL]

£150 all in that includes anal, rimming, golden showers, dee-throat and swallow, though I did not avail myself of the back passage.

Location, near Baker Street.

Thai lady, as usual older than claimed. I would put at late 30's, early 40's. Really nice lady, whom is a great character, holds a decent conversation, has seen it all and from which I gathered she is not to be fucked with!

Started with assisted shower, with nice comments on my physique. Then she took golden shower squatting in the bath while I stood outside and encouraged me to get it in her mouth, not a flinch.

Onto the main action of deepthroat oral which was what I was there for.

I broke for some reverse oral and fingering during which I think she came.

I then wanted to cum in deepthroat, a long held fantasy.

Had her lie back and throat fuck her, I am not massive, but maybe too big for her for this, was a bit toothy and uncmofrtable, but did get there and she did swallow. Next time I would let her take control and see if we have more success.

Followed this with a decent massage and chat to pad out the hour. Could have gone for a second pop, but had plans for some P+the action later elsewhere and wanted to keep my strength up.

Would return and try and fulfil the deepthroat throatpie fantasy.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2603691]Seems like this thread only cares about Diva's, Peachy's and Admiral. How come no one has ever commented on the high end UK Options available? I know they're expensive, but why not try it at least once?[/QUOTE]Most of us have gotten very good results with agencies like Diva. What would you say is the benefit of using a high end UK option? I've mongered all over the world, and Diva provided some of the most attractive girls I've experienced (all for under 200 GBP).

Does a high end option provide more attractive women? Do they perform better sexually? I'd love to learn more about your experiences.

[QUOTE=HarryFlashman;2603856]Elina*Swallow+Anal.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/4402758[/URL]

150 all in that includes anal, rimming, golden showers, dee-throat and swallow, though I did not avail myself of the back passage.

Location, near Baker Street.

Thai lady, as usual older than claimed. I would put at late 30's, early 40's. Really nice lady, whom is a great character, holds a decent conversation, has seen it all and from which I gathered she is not to be fucked with!

Started with assisted shower, with nice comments on my physique. Then she took golden shower squatting in the bath while I stood outside and encouraged me to get it in her mouth, not a flinch.

Onto the main action of deepthroat oral which was what I was there for.

I broke for some reverse oral and fingering during which I think she came.

I then wanted to cum in deepthroat, a long held fantasy.

Had her lie back and throat fuck her, I am not massive, but maybe too big for her for this, was a bit toothy and uncmofrtable, but did get there and she did swallow. Next time I would let her take control and see if we have more success.

Followed this with a decent massage and chat to pad out the hour. Could have gone for a second pop, but had plans for some P+the action later elsewhere and wanted to keep my strength up.

Would return and try and fulfil the deepthroat throatpie fantasy.[/QUOTE]Between Wlina and Ayumi who would you recommend?

[QUOTE=Atanion;2605298]Most of us have gotten very good results with agencies like Diva. What would you say is the benefit of using a high end UK option? I've mongered all over the world, and Diva provided some of the most attractive girls I've experienced (all for under 200 GBP).

Does a high end option provide more attractive women? Do they perform better sexually? I'd love to learn more about your experiences.[/QUOTE]I'm going to give Diva a go next week, all the reviews makes me feel like its the place to be.

[QUOTE=PureLily;2603399]I wouldn't say stay clear of adultwork. Most of escorts start there and most escorts who have their sites are on [URL]adultwork.com[/URL].

To find a good escort on adultwork as it comes for London, look into girls charging 350-600 for 2 h, then you will find decent people.

If you are looking at girls charging 140 for 1 h, then you might get burn.[/QUOTE]Even then it can be disappointing, I paid 400 for a roleplay escort in Pmlico, she wasn't enthusiastic, hadn't even shaved her legs and was clock watcher.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2605298]Most of us have gotten very good results with agencies like Diva. What would you say is the benefit of using a high end UK option? I've mongered all over the world, and Diva provided some of the most attractive girls I've experienced (all for under 200 GBP).

Does a high end option provide more attractive women? Do they perform better sexually? I'd love to learn more about your experiences.[/QUOTE]As you say with so much at 200 and below why go higher. So I have limited experience. I did go once with an Allure girl -300 but left disappointed. Her flat was much nicer / bigger (tho Meltys was pretty epic) and she was an English gal. But the kissing was LFK at best and while she did rimming and two rounds, it was just off. Imo you are paying for a nicer flat nice part of town and maybe nationality. But that was my experience.

Of Diva girls I have been sorely tempted by Gayana. She seems worth every farthing.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2605298]Most of us have gotten very good results with agencies like Diva. What would you say is the benefit of using a high end UK option? I've mongered all over the world, and Diva provided some of the most attractive girls I've experienced (all for under 200 GBP).

Does a high end option provide more attractive women? Do they perform better sexually? I'd love to learn more about your experiences.[/QUOTE]I've never tried it but genuinely curious if anyone has in the past. I'm not saying the other options are bad just that I'the like to try multiple options. I'm shocked I can't find a single story or report by anyone or are these high end agencies simply fake?

I'll guess TOFTT.

Had some time in town, headed over to see what was left in Soho. Only found 3 locations remaining, 2 in Green's Court and one on Peter St. Friday night they were busy, didn't bother in the end. Another time I went with a decent looking Spanish girl who'd got a decent English accent by now. All went swimmingly, except I wasn't very quick, and she wasn't very patient, and eventually she gave up and basically threw me out. Oh well, only 40 quid.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2599873]Doh! Forgot Flory! Thanks Marelobomex. And Noleta too who is spectacular. Duh. Just goes to show how many great girls there are. So to complete the list (I think!

Flory. Amazing. She was brand new. I told her I want to kiss more deeply and she dove right in. And want her to look at the me while we fuck in mish and she melted me with her liquid browns even as I came inside her. Lovely girl.

Noleta. Amazing. Great DFK and BBBJ. Offered wine from her fridge. Just tops. Has new bolt ones which I have not seen.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the recommenation, I've looked them up one by one and yes, most of them are also my dream girls".

Just wondering have you happened to meet Marianna? Her bio meets all my need just not sure if P.S. Too much and looks different in person, since she's 30+. She has many good reviews, age is the only concern.

Marianna is my first girl with Diva and I have to say I was really really disappointed. Despite all her good reviews and recommendations. I've been travelling around the world and tasted all kinds of girls, including many Russian ones across other European cities, M just can't meet even the average of them. IF this is what a 400 P Diva girl could offer, I'm bit doubting the site now: -.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2607541]Marianna is my first girl with Diva and I have to say I was really really disappointed. Despite all her good reviews and recommendations. I've been travelling around the world and tasted all kinds of girls, including many Russian ones across other European cities, M just can't meet even the average of them. IF this is what a 400 P Diva girl could offer, I'm bit doubting the site now.[/QUOTE]What disappointed you? The girls on the site of Diva escort site looks stunners, but they do not anything near those photos on the escort site of diva or the service was bad like no blowjob without condom?

I thought diva escort supposed to be best in London!

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2607541]Marianna is my first girl with Diva and I have to say I was really really disappointed. Despite all her good reviews and recommendations. I've been travelling around the world and tasted all kinds of girls, including many Russian ones across other European cities, M just can't meet even the average of them. IF this is what a 400 P Diva girl could offer, I'm bit doubting the site now: -.[/QUOTE]What did you not like about her? Was she holding the condom during FS and / or preventing you from full thrust, refusing BBBJ, DFK, DATY and / or certain positions, hurrying you, bitchy attitude? Those are my dislikes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2607619]What did you not like about her? Was she holding the condom during FS and / or preventing you from full thrust, refusing BBBJ, DFK, DATY and / or certain positions, hurrying you, bitchy attitude? Those are my dislikes.[/QUOTE]Sorry I didn't go details in my first post.

Actually I believe M is a good girl. "Good" here refers to friendly attitude and willingness to please. Just everything else can't my standards or expextations, her look, body, bed performance, etc. For exampel, every reviews were talking about her outstanding BBBJ technique, but what I received was a very norma (or to say below the average) l one and even couldn't get me fully hard. One more thing is that I can't feel her passion, everthing was like mechanized. I don't want to fuck a sex doll, most of the time I'd like to build some chemistry BTW the 2 so the session will go smoothly, and this usually works for me.

If it's a 200 p girl, I probably ok with it. Now I just not sure wheather I'll try Diva again. If anyone of your would kindly recommend me something else in London, I shall be grateful.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2607664]Sorry I didn't go details in my first post.

Actually I believe M is a good girl. "Good" here refers to friendly attitude and willingness to please. Just everything else can't my standards or expextations, her look, body, bed performance, etc. For exampel, every reviews were talking about her outstanding BBBJ technique, but what I received was a very norma (or to say below the average) l one and even couldn't get me fully hard. One more thing is that I can't feel her passion, everthing was like mechanized. I don't want to fuck a sex doll, most of the time I'd like to build some chemistry BTW the 2 so the session will go smoothly, and this usually works for me.

If it's a 200 p girl, I probably ok with it. Now I just not sure wheather I'll try Diva again. If anyone of your would kindly recommend me something else in London, I shall be grateful.[/QUOTE]Sorry you had a bad experience but you need to improve your filter a bit. First why go with a 400 £ girl. Especially one over 30? I don't know many / any girls that can be all that hot post 30 and certainly not 400 £ of hot. You also didn't look carefully enough at her reviews and the cadence. Her first reviews are 2011. Huge red flag! She's been at this over ten years. No wonder it's mechanical. And she last really worked in early 2019 and just now reappeared. All not good.

Maybe better to go with the recommended girls guys here have tried rather than freelancing until you tune your filter better.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2607706]Sorry you had a bad experience but you need to improve your filter a bit. First why go with a 400 girl. Especially one over 30? I don't know many / any girls that can be all that hot post 30 and certainly not 400 of hot. You also didn't look carefully enough at her reviews and the cadence. Her first reviews are 2011. Huge red flag! She's been at this over ten years. No wonder it's mechanical. And she last really worked in early 2019 and just now reappeared. All not good.

Maybe better to go with the recommended girls guys here have tried rather than freelancing until you tune your filter better.[/QUOTE]I agree with most of your points, thanks you sir. It's always more difficult for a new comer to find some decent sex in the town.

For the price issue, I was trying to maximum my chance to get a good experience so willing to pay a higher price. Most of the times it works well, though it turned out bad luck yesterday.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2607706]Sorry you had a bad experience but you need to improve your filter a bit. First why go with a 400 girl. Especially one over 30? I don't know many / any girls that can be all that hot post 30 and certainly not 400 of hot. You also didn't look carefully enough at her reviews and the cadence. Her first reviews are 2011. Huge red flag! She's been at this over ten years. No wonder it's mechanical. And she last really worked in early 2019 and just now reappeared. All not good.

Maybe better to go with the recommended girls guys here have tried rather than freelancing until you tune your filter better.[/QUOTE]Steve, the issue is people try to find girls on their own from Diva. When I come to London I go through your's or Atanian's previous post with names of girls whom you guys had recommended. And that list is comprehensive. No need to reinvent the wheel and get bad experience.

I apologize as I have not quite read the entire forum but I have unexpectedly landed in London with my 35 year old Brazilian girlfriend with a perfect body and a smile that could kill anyone. She is bisexual, and very open to the idea of a threesome (she is truly bisexual; indeed, my only worry with her is that she will forget about me while she drills away at the girl!

Can anyone give me a suggestion for a specific girl? Alternatively, is there an agency that is more rusted than others? Price is not a big problem but I don't need to spend more than is necessary. A PM would be fine, although something open might be more appreciated by our colleagues here.

Muito obrigado and thank you!

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2607724]I agree with most of your points, thanks you sir. It's always more difficult for a new comer to find some decent sex in the town.

For the price issue, I was trying to maximum my chance to get a good experience so willing to pay a higher price. Most of the times it works well, though it turned out bad luck yesterday.[/QUOTE]While you often get better quality girls by paying higher prices, you soon hit diminishing returns above 200 in London. Unless you want to try fucking supermodels, you'll be spoiled for choice in London if you pick around the 200 range. As Steve9696 has said multiple times, paying for high prices usually means paying for their flat and not for better pussy. Also, don't assume that a supermodel knows how to fuck you. More often than not, she'll expect you to feel lucky simply to be breathing the same air she does and not offer much more.

Search my posts for my rubric on choosing an agency girl and then use that for your next trip. For the price you paid, I'm certain you could have experienced two top notch girls.

I'm a bit surprised to not see any reports about the Phoenix Club. I've always had a great time there. I see, however, that they only have 3 girls per shift rather than 5. But the 2:1 limit is still guaranteed. Given London prices on anything, it's a pervy bargain.

EDIT: I see Paloma is working. She works a lot, but always treats me one-to-one like she actually cares if I have a good time. And there’s always the other girls too. I generally take at least a turn with all 5. (But 3 now apparently.)

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2609493]I'm a bit surprised to not see any reports about the Phoenix Club. I've always had a great time there. I see, however, that they only have 3 girls per shift rather than 5. But the 2:1 limit is still guaranteed. Given London prices on anything, it's a pervy bargain.[/QUOTE]I use to almost live there. The hosts are super cool. I picked the up at NYC airport once and hung out for a bit. Miss them days.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2609199]I apologize as I have not quite read the entire forum but I have unexpectedly landed in London with my 35 year old Brazilian girlfriend with a perfect body and a smile that could kill anyone. She is bisexual, and very open to the idea of a threesome (she is truly bisexual; indeed, my only worry with her is that she will forget about me while she drills away at the girl![/QUOTE]With a 35-year old Brazilian girlfriend in tow, why are you even considering buying adult relations?

Went today to Soho to check the walk-ups. Out of approximately 10 before covid only 4 were open. Don't know if this was because of the day or if generally is like this. There was one in Greek Street with 2 ladies around 55 yo both with bellies. Not my cup of tea so I left. The rest 3 were in Lisle Street. Only in one of them (the nearest to Wardour Street) in the second floor was one good looking English lady around 45 yo. Blonde, slim, tall with big boobs so I stayed. Payed £40 for sex in different position. Nice warm pussy and I unloaded my sack. Regarding her looks you will find this kind of ladies for £200-£250 maybe even £300 per hour in agencies. Of course you will not get the environment or the kisses or the services without condom that many girls on agencies offer but if you are on budget and you wish to empty your bag she is excellent choice. Will try to learn when she works there and will inform you.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2609489]While you often get better quality girls by paying higher prices, you soon hit diminishing returns above 200 in London. Unless you want to try fucking supermodels, you'll be spoiled for choice in London if you pick around the 200 range. As Steve9696 has said multiple times, paying for high prices usually means paying for their flat and not for better pussy. Also, don't assume that a supermodel knows how to fuck you. More often than not, she'll expect you to feel lucky simply to be breathing the same air she does and not offer much more.

Search my posts for my rubric on choosing an agency girl and then use that for your next trip. For the price you paid, I'm certain you could have experienced two top notch girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks friend, I've read most of your recent posts and will try again with Diva. It's helpful.

I'm also thinking of going to FKKs, just not really sure the lineups there and which ones to go.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2609901]

I'm also thinking of going to FKKs, just not really sure the lineups there and which ones to go.[/QUOTE]The FKK areas in the Germany parts of this very board are very helpful. If you can describe what you are looking for folks there can make suggestions. Fancy? Cheap? Models? MILFs? Covered? BBBJ or even BBFS? It's all out there.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2610536]The FKK areas in the Germany parts of this very board are very helpful. If you can describe what you are looking for folks there can make suggestions. Fancy? Cheap? Models? MILFs? Covered? BBBJ or even BBFS? It's all out there.[/QUOTE]Yes I have been readings and I was a regualr to FKKs as well as the FKK thread years ago. Just pity that this market is quite different (in the bad way) now.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2603691]Seems like this thread only cares about Diva's, Peachy's and Admiral. How come no one has ever commented on the high end UK Options available? I know they're expensive, but why not try it at least once?[/QUOTE]Here's one to try and report on whether worthwhile.

[URL]https://londonescortguide.com/london_escorts/Natalie.213229.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2610594]Here's one to try and report on whether worthwhile.

[URL]https://londonescortguide.com/london_escorts/Natalie.213229.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]Turgid dude. You have found the long lost site. This is the agency aggregator that I found years ago and narrowed down to Admiral, Diva, etc. The site was total crap back then but had all the info. Now it's super professional but with all the data. This seems like a great resource. Thanks for the find! An old friend!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2610594]Here's one to try and report on whether worthwhile.

[URL]https://londonescortguide.com/london_escorts/Natalie.213229.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow. This's Awesome. Ratings and filters and (almost) everything you need to search / investigate have the time of your life. Thank you, at Turgid.

[QUOTE=Max#01;2609563]With a 35-year old Brazilian girlfriend in tow, why are you even considering buying adult relations?[/QUOTE]She likes girls and I like doing the garota while she performs cunnilingus on my girl. Or ass fucking my girl while she has sex with the other lady. My reasons are not rocket science, just expensive. That is why I am looking for a recommendation, as so many "bisexual" girls are poor actresses.

Hadn't been here in ages. It's on the edge of Chinatown on Shaftesbury. Hit and miss and I've had both great and bad experiences here. In short. Had Amy this time and I recommend. Excellent actual massage but also great technique on the BBBJ and although I wouldn't say she is super attractive, she's cute enough. A little curvy but not chubby and she has a great attitude. Kind of fun and flirty. I would definitely repeat. The first time I walked by, there was a very hot girl in a red dress and I saw another different cutie on the way out, so it seems at the moment, the talent is quite good.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2610687]She likes girls and I like doing the garota while she performs cunnilingus on my girl. Or ass fucking my girl while she has sex with the other lady. My reasons are not rocket science, just expensive. That is why I am looking for a recommendation, as so many "bisexual" girls are poor actresses.[/QUOTE]I see that Rivetta is back in the lineup at Diva. She gives an amazing BJ and was complaining last I saw her that none of the Diva girls she does duos with are truly bisexual. So she would be up for it. Note that she is slightly heavier / hippier than her pics. Not in a bad way. But she has a womans build more so than a lot of the pixie chicks.

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I tried Diva the other week, but the women I wanted were not available (it was a last min call on my part) but I did manage to play with Bunny from House of Divine (I'm a sucker for funky hair!) She was very attentive, a little dramatic (overacting) at times but really impressed with the service. A good body (all except her tits that for a lack of a better term seem deflated). A tight arse, very tight pussy and very pretty. She was a great kisser and seems open to kinky roleplays. Something to check out next time. The one issue is that HoD does seem like a factory line with back to back customers.

Got my eye on a couple of Divas so will give them a go when I'm free to play again!

So I've spent a little over a week here and must say that it's pretty boring during the weekdays even when one is actively searching for nightlife activities. Does anyone have any recommendations for nightlife? Specific names of any bars or clubs that you would go to?

I've had my fair share of adultwork and Divas here but looking to do something or grab a drink aside from the quick hourly grabs.

They all advertise with multiple agencies under different names.

Remember they are independent.

There are more than a dozen agencies.

[QUOTE=PhuckBiden;2612809]They all advertise with multiple agencies under different names.

Remember they are independent.

There are more than a dozen agencies.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering where I can find the young ones? I noticed most of the ladies on these sites are the mature type no matter what's their ages (or the P.S. Stlyle? I've visited 3 last week and none of them really pleased me.

I lived in Paris years ago and there was one site called AmourRusse who provided the top young Russian beauties for 300 euro. Anything similar here?

Hi all,

I'll be in London for 2 weeks and noticed Diva being mentioned a few times in this forum; is there anything that I should look out for when approaching them?

Would appreciate any advice, thanks!

[QUOTE=Pdeo98;2613913]Hi all,

I'll be in London for 2 weeks and noticed Diva being mentioned a few times in this forum; is there anything that I should look out for when approaching them?

Would appreciate any advice, thanks![/QUOTE]I posted this a while ago, but it's now several pages back in the forum. So, I'm reposting it. Here's my rubric for selecting girls on London agency sites.

I have personally used Diva and Babylon, and both agencies resulted in experiences ranging from OK to great. No agency will replace the need to meet the girl in person, but this is the rubric I use for any agency listing. If you can answer "yes" to the majority of these questions, then you'll probably enjoy the girl.

Photos:

Is the girl attractive?

Are selfies available (not just photoshopped images)?

Is video available?

Profile:

Is the girl in my preferred age range (for me, early twenties)?

Does the girl have my preferred traits (currently, slim blonde blue-eyed girls with natural breasts)?

Does she speak English?

Services:

Does she provide FK?

Does she provide DFK (not required for me, but nice to have)?

Does she provide OWO (not required for me, but nice to know)?

Does she duo with another girl (not required for me, but nice to know)?

Does she dress up in costumes like secretary or schoolgirl (not required for me, but nice to have)?

Reviews:

How many reviews are available (ideally, at least three)?

How far back do the reviews go (ideally, no more than two years)?

Do the reviews seem real and not all written by the same person?

Do any reviews state that the girl does not look like her pictures?

Do any reviews confirm that the girl does indeed look like her pictures?

Do any reviews mention that the girl was rude (although, this could just be bad chemistry between that reviewer and the girl)?

Do any reviews confirm that the services listed were actually provided?

Do any reviews confirm that characteristics mentioned in the profile?

If there are negative reviews, are they far outweighed by the positive reviews in number and intensity?

If a reviewer has spent multiple sessions with a girl, did they find the girl to be consistently good?

Do any reviews mention that the girl was on her phone during the session?

Do any reviews mention that the girl was watching the clock?

Do any reviews mention that the girl was rushing?

Do any reviews mention that the girl was enthusiastic and focused on the pleasure of the punter?

Folks, I am traveling for three days trip next week and new to London. Gone through the agencies mentioned in this forum, but better to seek your guidance to approach for better experience at this crucial time. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ntnsapre;2614164]Hi,

Does anyone have any experience with Eva Tantric Massage in general, and Alma in specific?

[URL]https://evatantricmassagelondon.uk/model/alma/[/URL][/QUOTE]Most of those girls are escorts listed on other well know sites; if you are going there you are paying a premium for a girl that does not specialise in massage.

[QUOTE=KennyWu;2614828]Folks, I am traveling for three days trip next week and new to London. Gone through the agencies mentioned in this forum, but better to seek your guidance to approach for better experience at this crucial time. Cheers.[/QUOTE]What are you looking for in a meet?

Traveling to Cheltenham, wondering if anyone can help me out with information on the scene.

I am going to stay in the Greater London area in a hotel. The agencies mentioned in the forum like Diva and three more options. Are these genuine, how to find the right girl, incall is safe? And any other tips. Thanks and' advance.

[QUOTE=StevenJones;2615540]What are you looking for in a meet?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KennyWu;2616139]I am going to stay in the Greater London area in a hotel. The agencies mentioned in the forum like Diva and three more options. Are these genuine, how to find the right girl, incall is safe? And any other tips. Thanks and' advance.[/QUOTE]Dude. Are you trolling us? Just read Atanions post on 10/14. Total Newbie guide. You cannot fail if you follow his rubric.

Hi!

I'll be visiting London for 2 weeks and will be looking for a submissive escort. I'm wondering if anyone knows any Diva girls that provides submissive services? I noticed that they don't specifically list this as a service or maybe it is labelled differently. Also, any recommendations here will be very well appreciated.

Thanks.

Sorry, Steve, I have got it. I will explore and contribute something to this group. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2616166]Dude. Are you trolling us? Just read Atanions post on 10/14. Total Newbie guide. You cannot fail if you follow his rubric.[/QUOTE]

I'm visiting the Mother Country in early December. Back in the day, I used to visit the Phoenix Club because you could pretty much be spontaneous without a lot of advanced planning. For the price, it wasn't bad, certainly less than I'd pay in a German FKK. I haven't seen any reports in this forum since September. I'm curious if it's still up & running. The website says that they have three girls per shift, so the parties must be smaller these days. Thanks!

[QUOTE=HotSauce691;2616444]Hi!

I'll be visiting London for 2 weeks and will be looking for a submissive escort. I'm wondering if anyone knows any Diva girls that provides submissive services? I noticed that they don't specifically list this as a service or maybe it is labelled differently. Also, any recommendations here will be very well appreciated.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Depending on your kinks and budget I'd give Subbykatie a go. [URL]https://subbykatie.com/[/URL].

I strongly recommend reading Atanion post a few days, before selecting any girl from the website. I selected one girl without the video when I arrived, I was shocked she is too skinny, less (would say very less) attractive, her name starts wit Malxxx, I politely said not interested and gave some tips and left the place. Mood out, did't plan anything, second day another girl which has a video name sRooxxx same experience of the previous day, but would say much better than the first one look wise. But, still not satisfied. Lookup another agency website found an independent Moroccan girl connected on Whatsapp got her Video (looking great) but she (not sure its her or someone) asking to pay 30 pounds in advance and no in-call. Avoided her, left London without much action. I thank Steve who really pointed to research more before starting anything, even though I am a member since 2013 still long way to go.

Hey there Lads,

I have to come to London early next month.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a simple rub and tug place (maybe with FS)?

My hotel is right next to King's Cross St Pancras station.

Thanks heaps.

[QUOTE=KennyWu;2618054]..... left London without much action.....[/QUOTE]From your post it looks like you left London without any action at all unless you picked up some non-pro girls. Hope you have better luck next time.

Indeed, left without any actions. Next time I should do more research before coming there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2618090]From your post it looks like you left London without any action at all unless you picked up some non-pro girls. Hope you have better luck next time.[/QUOTE]

Last weekend I met a Diva girl and had some nice conversation during the sessions. She mentioned that agency will share 50% of the money and not cover the rent, travel cost etc. Which means most of them only make 100-150 p for 1 hour and have to pay the high renting fees. It decreased my expection of WG's total income.

One more funny thing is that the girl didn't even know Diva at all, and asked me to show her page LOL.

[QUOTE=Max#01;2616898]I'm visiting the Mother Country in early December. Back in the day, I used to visit the Phoenix Club because you could pretty much be spontaneous without a lot of advanced planning. For the price, it wasn't bad, certainly less than I'd pay in a German FKK. I haven't seen any reports in this forum since September. I'm curious if it's still up & running. The website says that they have three girls per shift, so the parties must be smaller these days. Thanks![/QUOTE]Yes the Phoenix Club is still up and running. I attended a party there about a month ago and it was pretty good. There was only two other guys in attendance so there was no problem in having as much fun with the three girls as you wanted. In actual fact, both guys departed with about 30 minutes left so for the last half hour I had the three girls to myself which was good fun!!

On the day I attended, Kasia was one of the girls and she's a good looking lass with a great attitude.

The venue is clean and easy to find but the two bedrooms are a bit small really. I can imagine it would be a tight fit if six guys are in attendance and all want to be a part of the action at the same time. The living room is very large though so there's plenty off space there to chill out and have a drink / nibbles. You can take along your own drinks as well if you want a couple of beers for example.

I hadn't attended one of the parties for probably a decade when they were at the Lancaster Gate location and on a Saturday they would have 6-8 girls. They were cracking good parties with some really hot girls and a great venue, but at the moment the parties are not up to the standard they once were. But you can still have a good time, and as you say they're pretty good value at 160 for two hours.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2619179]Last weekend I met a Diva girl and had some nice conversation during the sessions. She mentioned that agency will share 50% of the money and not cover the rent, travel cost etc. Which means most of them only make 100-150 p for 1 hour and have to pay the high renting fees. It decreased my expection of WG's total income.

One more funny thing is that the girl didn't even know Diva at all, and asked me to show her page LOL.[/QUOTE]More than one diva girl has told me that Diva takes 30%. One girl has also told me that this 30% is only on the hourly rate, but not on fees for extras (those are for the girl to keep) - with that model, I would have thought that more girls would reduce their hourly rate, and put common services (like OWO) as extras, so that they could pay commission to Diva based on a lower rate, while the men would pay the same. Some girls have also told me that they don't like having their rates too low (150 GBP), because it attracts different clientele than rates that are a bit higher (200-300 GBP) - so that could be why more girls haven't reduced their hourly rates and shifted the fees to extras. As a customer, I would also perceive a girl as difficult / high maintenance if I saw too many services that are normally included, listed as extras (even if her hourly rate were lower). So that may also be a reason that the girls seem to prefer including common services within the hourly rate.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2619403]More than one diva girl has told me that Diva takes 30%. One girl has also told me that this 30% is only on the hourly rate, but not on fees for extras (those are for the girl to keep) - with that model, I would have thought that more girls would reduce their hourly rate, and put common services (like OWO) as extras, so that they could pay commission to Diva based on a lower rate, while the men would pay the same. Some girls have also told me that they don't like having their rates too low (150 GBP), because it attracts different clientele than rates that are a bit higher (200-300 GBP) - so that could be why more girls haven't reduced their hourly rates and shifted the fees to extras. As a customer, I would also perceive a girl as difficult / high maintenance if I saw too many services that are normally included, listed as extras (even if her hourly rate were lower). So that may also be a reason that the girls seem to prefer including common services within the hourly rate.[/QUOTE]The norm in London is for the agency to charge 30% commission, and as you also say, the agency won't charge anything for the "extras."

Where a girl is saying she is being charged 50% it is usually because she has an "agent" (insert whatever word you want here in place of "agent") who has helped bring her to the UK. You'll often find this with Russian and Ukrainian girls, as well as Brazilian girls. These agents recruit the girls in their home country and will finance their trip, arrange visas, photos and accommodation, and place the girls with various agencies such as Diva. It works well for the girls because, as you can imagine, if you want to move from one of these countries to a place like London when you don't have much money, you don't know the city, and you don't speak the language is nigh on impossible.

The original example mentioned here is probably a classic case, as the girl doesn't really know (or care) which agencies she is with, as long as the work keeps coming. She will most likely never communicate with the agency itself but will be advised of any bookings by the agent who will have been advised by the agency.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2619403]..... Some girls have also told me that they don't like having their rates too low (150 GBP), because it attracts different clientele than rates that are a bit higher (200-300 GBP) .....[/QUOTE]That difference is too close to make any sense. Guys who pay 200-300 GBP would gladly go with a girl who charges 150. Similarly, a guy who would normally pay 150 GBP could, for whatever reason, miss a few days action and, having saved some sterling, readily afford 200-300 GBP for a punt.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2619403]More than one diva girl has told me that Diva takes 30%. One girl has also told me that this 30% is only on the hourly rate, but not on fees for extras (those are for the girl to keep) - with that model, I would have thought that more girls would reduce their hourly rate, and put common services (like OWO) as extras, so that they could pay commission to Diva based on a lower rate, while the men would pay the same. Some girls have also told me that they don't like having their rates too low (150 GBP), because it attracts different clientele than rates that are a bit higher (200-300 GBP) - so that could be why more girls haven't reduced their hourly rates and shifted the fees to extras. As a customer, I would also perceive a girl as difficult / high maintenance if I saw too many services that are normally included, listed as extras (even if her hourly rate were lower). So that may also be a reason that the girls seem to prefer including common services within the hourly rate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueBoyBlew;2619460]The norm in London is for the agency to charge 30% commission, and as you also say, the agency won't charge anything for the "extras."

Where a girl is saying she is being charged 50% it is usually because she has an "agent" (insert whatever word you want here in place of "agent") who has helped bring her to the UK. You'll often find this with Russian and Ukrainian girls, as well as Brazilian girls. These agents recruit the girls in their home country and will finance their trip, arrange visas, photos and accommodation, and place the girls with various agencies such as Diva. It works well for the girls because, as you can imagine, if you want to move from one of these countries to a place like London when you don't have much money, you don't know the city, and you don't speak the language is nigh on impossible.

The original example mentioned here is probably a classic case, as the girl doesn't really know (or care) which agencies she is with, as long as the work keeps coming. She will most likely never communicate with the agency itself but will be advised of any bookings by the agent who will have been advised by the agency.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the explanations, yours combined are the answer to my questions. Indeed the girl I met was a Russian. To show my sympathy, I paid 100 extra for swallow. As you both mentioned, girls keep all the extra))).

But I recalled the Russians I met in Paris years ago, they did share 50% income with their agent, but as well as all the cost such as rent, travel cost, visa fee, or even the bio photo fee, which sounds much better than only sharing the income.

So right now there is a string of one and two star reviews on Diva. This is a great reminder in two respects. One it is awesome that they post the negative reviews. So many sites hide those. Full information makes for better decisions.

It also reminds us that it is folly to go with unknown girls even on Diva! Some guy paid 300 for a fat unattractive girl. Guess what. His own fucking fault. Follow Atanions rubric a few pages back and you will do great. (Similar to mine those his is more organized and complete). Roll the dice at your own peril.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2619903]So right now there is a string of one and two star reviews on Diva. This is a great reminder in two respects. One it is awesome that they post the negative reviews. So many sites hide those. Full information makes for better decisions.

It also reminds us that it is folly to go with unknown girls even on Diva! Some guy paid 300 for a fat unattractive girl. Guess what. His own fucking fault. Follow Atanions rubric a few pages back and you will do great. (Similar to mine those his is more organized and complete). Roll the dice at your own peril.[/QUOTE]I believe Diva didn't put all the negative reviews, I mean, not "all". Since once I consulted with the reception, he / she kindly gave me both the postive and negative reviews of the girl, and the negative one never shown on the website (I just checked again).

after all, I do appreciate the honesty of Diva

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2619903]So right now there is a string of one and two star reviews on Diva. This is a great reminder in two respects. One it is awesome that they post the negative reviews. So many sites hide those. Full information makes for better decisions.

It also reminds us that it is folly to go with unknown girls even on Diva! Some guy paid 300 for a fat unattractive girl. Guess what. His own fucking fault. Follow Atanions rubric a few pages back and you will do great. (Similar to mine those his is more organized and complete). Roll the dice at your own peril.[/QUOTE]Steve's advise has wisdom.

And if your biggest concern is never having a bad session then follow it.

My take is slightly different. New girls who have not been reviewed or only reviewed a couple times are hit and miss. However when you get a hit, she can be spectacular, and way better than seeing a girl after she has been with hundreds of guys and built up a list of positive reviews. Not all guys leave reviews anyway. Especially if they find girls that are rare gems, they may bang her for 6 months before posting an amazing review on her because they don't want everyone rushing to her.

I have certainly had bad sessions; once I selected a newbie who looked great in photos but when I showed up she looked horrible. I barely touched her, and we mostly talked and I paid her for the session. On that particular day I had multiple girls booked and even though there was one bad session I still had plenty of fun.

In my humble opinion it is worth risking a couple bad sessions for the option of finding an amazing fresh girl.

Flory was my favorite Diva girl and she only worked for a few weeks and then left the lifestyle but I was thrilled to see her twice while she was working. I still follow her on social media and love seeing her pictures. If I follow the advice above I would never have selected her.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2620155]Steve's advise has wisdom.

And if your biggest concern is never having a bad session then follow it.

My take is slightly different. New girls who have not been reviewed or only reviewed a couple times are hit and miss. However when you get a hit, she can be spectacular, and way better than seeing a girl after she has been with hundreds of guys and built up a list of positive reviews. Not all guys leave reviews anyway. Especially if they find girls that are rare gems, they may bang her for 6 months before posting an amazing review on her because they don't want everyone rushing to her.

I have certainly had bad sessions; once I selected a newbie who looked great in photos but when I showed up she looked horrible. I barely touched her, and we mostly talked and I paid her for the session. On that particular day I had multiple girls booked and even though there was one bad session I still had plenty of fun.

In my humble opinion it is worth risking a couple bad sessions for the option of finding an amazing fresh girl.

Flory was my favorite Diva girl and she only worked for a few weeks and then left the lifestyle but I was thrilled to see her twice while she was working. I still follow her on social media and love seeing her pictures. If I follow the advice above I would never have selected her.

MM.[/QUOTE]MM makes a good point as usual. But I think it depends on frequency and the need for excellence. Like if you are going to London and going to have 3-5 girls sure roll the dice on one or two. But if you are passing thru London once a year And have only one shot then don't roll the dice. Totally different thing going 2 for 3 than zero for one. No one wants to strike out totally.

P.S. Pretty sure I had Flory before you dude! But totally agree. Great girl and only there a couple months. It's really a gift when you catch a girl of short duration. This happens to me all the time on Seeking Arrangement.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2620289]MM makes a good point as usual. But I think it depends on frequency and the need for excellence. Like if you are going to London and going to have 3-5 girls sure roll the dice on one or two. But if you are passing thru London once a year And have only one shot then don't roll the dice. Totally different thing going 2 for 3 than zero for one. No one wants to strike out totally.

P.S. Pretty sure I had Flory before you dude! But totally agree. Great girl and only there a couple months. It's really a gift when you catch a girl of short duration. This happens to me all the time on Seeking Arrangement.[/QUOTE]Yes, you told me about Flory, and I am forever grateful. I think I liked her more than you did.

MM.

[QUOTE=Sobo77;2615484]Most of those girls are escorts listed on other well know sites; if you are going there you are paying a premium for a girl that does not specialise in massage.[/QUOTE]Do you know if Alma works as an escort? If so, a link? She's stunning. Thanks.

So, I was doing some reading on the barcelona section and happened to pop in to see what guys were saying about London. Seems adultwork has a bad name and diva is getting slagged at the moment.

There is a fair amount of bait and switch on adultwork, but as I am based in London, I can afford to walk away if the girl is not up to scratch.

That said, I thought I would add a few recomendations for those who may want a quick pop. P.S. I don't always pay bottom dollar so a few recomendations may not be cheap.

Before I move on to adultwork, I did see varlama from diva at the end of August.

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/blonde-varlama[/URL] Pics are of her but from a good few years back. Probably when she was 29. I wasn't impressed. She got that vibe and was quite accomodating, but I wouldn't repeat. That said she was recommended by the receptionist so not sure what that says.

Recomended. Visted more than once.

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Recomended. But only seen once.

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At your discretion.

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Both Giselle and Laurette work from the same location. Both using pictures that are a bit old. Giselle's was more accurate I thought. Both do an admirable job of getting you to blow. Not spectacular, so wouldn; t go back, unless I really needed to nut.

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Bait & switch?

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These last two, - just No.

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Finally. I have seen most of these girls this year, once I was double vaxxed. Making up for last year when I couldn't see anyone. I wonder if I should ave invested that cash in something worthy. Nah!

[QUOTE=LanceALot;2622922].....[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/6135017[/URL] Laurette lovesex.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/6249334[/URL] Hot Giselle.

Both Giselle and Laurette work from the same location. Both using pictures that are a bit old. ....[/QUOTE]Laurette looks really hot. Would like to have met her when the pic was taken. How much off is she in real?

[QUOTE=LanceALot;2622922]So, I was doing some reading on the barcelona section and happened to pop in to see what guys were saying about London. Seems adultwork has a bad name and diva is getting slagged at the moment.

There is a fair amount of bait and switch on adultwor….[/QUOTE]Thanks for this! Any recommended Asians?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2623692]Thanks for this! Any recommended Asians?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]If you want to go a more sure thing Olina agency is very good and specializes in Thai (or Asian). Their prices generally include CIM and such that are add ONS at Diva.

Anna will rock your world if she is available. She's been blowing up her insta the last six months with high end dinners and designer clothes so she's found a real life sugar daddy. Super happy for her. But if she is working then grab her. You won't be sorry. Total wildcat.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2623770]If you want to go a more sure thing Olina agency is very good and specializes in Thai (or Asian). Their prices generally include CIM and such that are add ONS at Diva.

Anna will rock your world if she is available. She's been blowing up her insta the last six months with high end dinners and designer clothes so she's found a real life sugar daddy. Super happy for her. But if she is working then grab her. You won't be sorry. Total wildcat.[/QUOTE]Thanks a ton! Trying to send you a private message but your inbox's full. Funny enough Olina was the 1st agency I went for when I got to London but the experience was nothing to write about, to say the least. If I recall right, it was Geena (who's still on Invasian, but no longer on Olina). I should have made it a point to meet the others too, instead of never going back there again. Anna's definitely on my list. Been hearing good things.

Thanks again. Cheers!

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2624648]Thanks a ton! Trying to send you a private message but your inbox's full. Funny enough Olina was the 1st agency I went for when I got to London but the experience was nothing to write about, to say the least. If I recall right, it was Geena (who's still on Invasian, but no longer on Olina). I should have made it a point to meet the others too, instead of never going back there again. Anna's definitely on my list. Been hearing good things.

Thanks again. Cheers![/QUOTE]Cleaned up. Send away!

Hello all,

I hope you are well. I am actually moving to London soon. If anyone of you kind souls can guide me regarding the escort scene, pickups or sugar babies I will be very grateful.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Sagarkukreja;2624717]Hello all,

I hope you are well. I am actually moving to London soon. If anyone of you kind souls can guide me regarding the escort scene, pickups or sugar babies I will be very grateful.

Thank you![/QUOTE]Lot of great info from some veterans on this forum already. If you have any questions, shoot me a PM- happy to help.

[QUOTE=Sagarkukreja;2624717]Hello all,

I hope you are well. I am actually moving to London soon. If anyone of you kind souls can guide me regarding the escort scene, pickups or sugar babies I will be very grateful.

Thank you![/QUOTE]There are couple of websites discussed on this forum, if you can go through few old messages that will help.

It has all information and contact details.

Outside of being a gentleman, well groomed, etc. With escorts is there any UK or London specific etiquette one should be aware of when visiting for their first time? It seems that as long as you're polite and keep a low profile there shouldn't be any issue. It seems that best sources are AdultW and LondonEG. Is there anything else I should be looking at?

Just wanted to pop in and share my review of Aletta from Xtasy escorts. She has several names and is listed on most of the common agency sites.

Links to her profile:

[URL]https://xstasy.co.uk/model/331/aletta[/URL]

[URL]https://www.babylongirls.co.uk/escorts/open-minded-young-slim-girl-aletta/[/URL]

Booked 1 hour in-call.

Overall: Enjoyable, but would not repeat.

Appearance: She matches the photos, but per usual just imagine photo attractiveness being inflated by 30%. She's fit and tall, but skin and teeth were not nearly as perfect as in the photos. Teeth weren't great and she had some noticeable skin discoloration. Otherwise, she has a nice natural tan (from Romania).

She's friendly in person, but has very limited English. Conversation was tough, and she was on her phone a lot of the time at first.

We did BBBJ, then mish, cowgirl, DS (I'm pretty boring tbh).

BBBJ was offered covered or not. 5/10. No real DT or skills that would impress anyone.

First round of mish, cowgirl, DS were fine. Some light moaning, but no real participation on her part. DS she used her hands to cup balls, which was a big plus.

Second round of positions she was much less enthusiastic. Got the Eastern European icing pretty hard. Partially expected her to start using her phone during.

Finished with BBBJ, asked for CIM but she said it was extra. I forgot to bring extra, so sad HJ for me. Cleaned up and left.

Performance wise, she was fine. She did look early 20's but the problem was just more of her experience. Doesn't know how to do a HJ for someone circumcised. BBBJ was like a perfunctory lollipop licking. English made any real communication kind of pointless.

Not exactly a master of her craft, but still fun nonetheless. If you want someone warm and inviting, might want to skip this one. Receptionist for XTasy recommended her over the others I picked, so take that for what you will.

Are there any agencies that don't have super airbrushed photos? Is anyone able to link me the local UK or London Boards?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2626793]Are there any agencies that don't have super airbrushed photos? Is anyone able to link me the local UK or London Boards?[/QUOTE]The degree of airbrushing will vary from site to site and from girl to girl. Try to find girls that share selfies since that should give you a better idea of how they look. Also, it's harder to airbrush a video so look for those, too. You should also look for recent reviews that state the girl looks like her photos.

[QUOTE=Sagarkukreja;2624717]Hello all,

I hope you are well. I am actually moving to London soon. If anyone of you kind souls can guide me regarding the escort scene, pickups or sugar babies I will be very grateful.

Thank you![/QUOTE]There is lot of information if you RTFF few pages. Whenever I am in London I read through posts of posters like Steve 9696 and Atanion. I find my answer there.

I get to travel to jolly 'ol Engerland for the first time this weekend. Read a few pages of the forum but haven't seen much discussion about massage parlors or other seedy brothel type places other than the advertisements around Hounslow which apparently houses some Asian students for naughty massage.

Could any fine lads out there give some quick tips or secrets either here or PM? Already checked out the escort agencies and will use those in a bind but would like to experience the street more with lower offerings and (ideally) direct dealing with the immigrant girls themselves. Seedy areas are okay and even welcomed! Couldn't imagine worse than some of the Abu Dhabi AMP chop shops.

Anyway, going to be great to get a taste of UK culture from the source. Hope you lads keep the coppers off the mask and other weird peculiarities which seem rising again in certain locales. Can't wait to see what the city has to offer for blessed sex with beautiful women.

[QUOTE=CaliTexMex;2626891]I get to travel to jolly 'ol Engerland for the first time this weekend. Read a few pages of the forum but haven't seen much discussion about massage parlors or other seedy brothel type places other than the advertisements around Hounslow which apparently houses some Asian students for naughty massage.

Could any fine lads out there give some quick tips or secrets either here or PM? Already checked out the escort agencies and will use those in a bind but would like to experience the street more with lower offerings and (ideally) direct dealing with the immigrant girls themselves. Seedy areas are okay and even welcomed! Couldn't imagine worse than some of the Abu Dhabi AMP chop shops.

Anyway, going to be great to get a taste of UK culture from the source. Hope you lads keep the coppers off the mask and other weird peculiarities which seem rising again in certain locales. Can't wait to see what the city has to offer for blessed sex with beautiful women.[/QUOTE]Adultwork is your best bet to discover the seedier side of life. You'll find a cluster of profiles close together. They're pretty much going to be popup brothels. Romanian girls. Girl you end up with probably won't match the pictures. Normally several girls will be there when you go in, you'll get who ever is available. Service varies (but it usually crap) and they'll usually upsell for anything more than blowjob and sex. Bareback is often available if that's your thing.

Another option (I too enjoy the seedier side of life) is Seeking Arrangement. A much better experience in my short time on there. Sure, there's lots of sugar babies and platonic wine and dine kind of girls, but there's plenty (British girls, both black and white, google 'chav girls' and you'll see the kind of girl I'm talking about) who are totally down to just come straight to your hotel and fuck. Again, not hard to get bareback.

Look for profiles with things like 'meet now' and 'fun meets', fairly new profiles (lots of scammers, videosellers and fake profiles, so do your due diligence), quickly take the conversation over to Whatsapp and be blunt and quick about your intentions. 'I'm at X hotel, looking to see a girl while I'm in London a few times. PPM of x at my hotel ok?

"On this day, 17 November 1982, 50 sex workers, members of the English Collective of Prostitutes, occupied the Holy Cross Church in King's Cross, London, in protest against police harassment, violence and racism. They made six demands: an end to illegal arrests of sex workers; an end to police blackmail, harassment and racism; an end to the taking of sex workers' children; an end to arrests of boyfriends and male relatives (especially Black ones) as "pimps"; welfare and housing for women who wish to leave the sex industry; and finally for arrests to be made of rapists and pimps instead. The occupation was inspired by a similar one undertaken by women in Lyon, France in 1975. Over the course of the 12 days of occupation, more sex workers would join the occupation. While Camden council made promises to the women to monitor illegal police arrests, they did not follow through on them after the occupation ended. However the incident helped catalyse feminist sex worker organising in England."

Went to Soho today and unfortunately was not able to find the English blonde that I fucked previously. So I took the opportunity to visit a Thai massage parlor. Went downstairs and payed £30 for 30 min. Entered the room and got naked. The Thai lady around 45 yo came and started massage me. I asked if anything extra was on offer and she said handjob for plus £50, full naked massage for £250. She must be crazy or she things I'm a tourist I thought. Will never give £80 for a handjob. I politely declined and after 15 min I left. Lost £30 but at least learned a lesson.

So fancies something a little different and gave the guy at Olinas a call, he hooked me up with Melinda who was a fun find. She was really sensuous, get shared shower to start with, BJ and rimming and then some tight anal. She let me CIM but did spit it out. A semi decent massage and on to round two. The photos on the site aren't realistic, but she isn't unattractive (though she does have giant nipples). A solid 7/10 (mostly to the anal and willingness). If Mimi did anal she would be my go to.

[URL]http://www.olina-oriental-escort.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=475[/URL]

One thing is true, UK isn't great for the hobby. Where can I fly to early January a few hours from London that won't be in lockdown for an extended weekend of fun?

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2630348]One thing is true, UK isn't great for the hobby. Where can I fly to early January a few hours from London that won't be in lockdown for an extended weekend of fun?[/QUOTE]Ah no. I completely disagree with this. London is one of my favorite P4 P cities. What exactly makes you conclude it's "not great". What is your budget and what have you tried that led to that conclusion?

Now that I moved to Netherlands, I do miss Diva's service.

However NL is not bad as well, as far as we keep away from the touristic traps!

As far as I can see, UK is the only place now in Europe where there is not much restrictions, as far as you got the 2 shots of vaccinations!

If its convenient for you, I would recommend to go to Colombia!! Or Brazil (haven't been to Brazil, but never heard any one saying bad about the place).

[QUOTE=DarrenGap;2630348]One thing is true, UK isn't great for the hobby. Where can I fly to early January a few hours from London that won't be in lockdown for an extended weekend of fun?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mike963;2630551]...If its convenient for you, I would recommend to go to Colombia!! Or Brazil (haven't been to Brazil, but never heard any one saying bad about the place).[/QUOTE]If good sex is important for you, you can't go wrong with Brazil.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2630907]If good sex is important for you, you can't go wrong with Brazil.[/QUOTE]Steve 9696 is exactly correct. The guy needs to explain why he doesn't like London. Without that, it is difficult to make recommendations.

London is of course excellent for higher-end escorts and sugar babies, and the fact that many escorts are fetish-friendly adds to the allure for a lot of guys.

PayForIt is a well-respected poster who is indifferent towards London because it doesn't have clubs or venues to interact with women before having sex with them. I can respect his opinion, but he does explain things.

Plenty of guys diss Barcelona for this very same reason, but there was just a report on the Barcelona forum from a guy who saw several women at Vecinitas and thinks that Vecinitas might be the best place in Europe. If DarrenGap is mostly concerned with the relatively higher prices in London, Barcelona might be a great choice if he doesn't mind reading and trusting the reviews that others have written, and booking a specific lady via appointment using an electronic device. But if he wants to mingle and choose, Barcelona is not the place for him.

I will admit to just not getting it when it comes to clubs. I like trustable reviews, and realistically anywhere you go, you end up in a room with a naked girl who has three orifices that are commonly used for sex, two being the most common. She will likely be between a specified age range and have hair that falls within a 24 inch range on her back. If you only speak English, you will be more likely to converse with her if you are in a room with her in the United Kingdom.

Is there really enough difference in the process of getting her into that room to justify flying across the Atlantic Ocean to justify going to Brazil if DarrenGap is from the United Kingdom (I don't know if he is). Barcelona is at least a little bit warmer and has good touristic scenery and is a short flight. So if price is the factor, and a person wants to do a lot of 70 euro half-hour sessions, the vacation aspects might justify the flight, especially if the variety of darker-skinned Latinas mixed with the local Spaniards is desirable.

But if a person flies all the way to Brazil, at some point during the long flight with turbulence waking you up from a light sleep, wouldn't you say, what the fuck am I doing? Shouldn't I have just picked a girl from Divas?

After my failure in Soho last week now was time to try something with more quality. Checked Aurora and chose Molly. Now most of the girls will charge £200 or above so her £150 price for 1 HR should be considered cheap. Located just 1 min from the tube station in a newly renovated flat in a very save area. Money exchanged, clothes came off and the business started. Unfortunately no DFK just lip kissing but this was something I expected from the beginning. OWO was good and sex even better. She has outgoing personality and she liked what was doing. No mechanical service like a robot that a lot of girls do. First time finished on her breasts and was able to cum for a second time fucking her doggy. Overall was happy to be with a young and fresh girl and even happier that I felt she was enjoying it as much as I did.

[URL]https://www.auroraescorts.co.uk/welcome/modelwise/Molly-Gloucester-Road-SW7-Brunette-2545[/URL]

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2631018]After my failure in Soho last week now was time to try something with more quality. Checked Aurora and chose Molly. Now most of the girls will charge 200 or above so her 150 price for 1 HR should be considered cheap. Located just 1 min from the tube station in a newly renovated flat in a very save area. Money exchanged, clothes came off and the business started. Unfortunately no DFK just lip kissing but this was something I expected from the beginning. OWO was good and sex even better. She has outgoing personality and she liked what was doing. No mechanical service like a robot that a lot of girls do. First time finished on her breasts and was able to cum for a second time fucking her doggy. Overall was happy to be with a young and fresh girl and even happier that I felt she was enjoying it as much as I did.

[URL]https://www.auroraescorts.co.uk/welcome/modelwise/Molly-Gloucester-Road-SW7-Brunette-2545[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow. Love her look. Her selfie and video are so much better than the photoshop to me. LOL. Go figure. Anyhow a real cutie. Why anyone would go elsewhere when she's right down the street — who knows. (Actually Monger88 said it right. Maybe you like a different venue style. But if you want a cute girl for GFE sex London is great.).

Folks. Visiting London this week and have a sincere question. I had prostate cancer surgery a while back. The surgeon was able to remove the prostate robotically and save the surrounding nerves. So, I can still have orgasms, but they are dry orgasms. That's OK. Cleanup is easy! But, I'm not able to have an erection strong enough for sex. Heaven knows I've tried! The doc as recommended a penis pump. (I'm already taking daily Cialis, which has helped somewhat.) I also need a ring and lube. Is there a reputable sex shop in Soho or elsewhere where I might be able to purchase a "starter kit?" I'd like to try it first to see if it makes a difference before I dive into the escort scene in London. The closest city to where I live that might have a sex shop is 60 miles away, so I can't make it there and back and catch my flight. Having said all this, all the cancer came out with the prostate. So, I really can't complain if my sole consenting adult activity from here on out are hand jobs! Thanks for advice and recommendations!

[QUOTE=Max#01;2631312]Folks. Visiting London this week and have a sincere question. I had prostate cancer surgery a while back. The surgeon was able to remove the prostate robotically and save the surrounding nerves. So, I can still have orgasms, but they are dry orgasms. That's OK. Cleanup is easy! But, I'm not able to have an erection strong enough for sex. Heaven knows I've tried! The doc as recommended a penis pump. (I'm already taking daily Cialis, which has helped somewhat.) I also need a ring and lube. Is there a reputable sex shop in Soho or elsewhere where I might be able to purchase a "starter kit?" I'd like to try it first to see if it makes a difference before I dive into the escort scene in London. The closest city to where I live that might have a sex shop is 60 miles away, so I can't make it there and back and catch my flight. Having said all this, all the cancer came out with the prostate. So, I really can't complain if my sole consenting adult activity from here on out are hand jobs! Thanks for advice and recommendations![/QUOTE]Plenty of sex shops in Soho, and all over London and the UK in fact. The best known and most reputable is Ann Summers who has a store on Wardour Street in Soho, they also have a website so you can check what is on offer. Best wishes finding a solution.

[QUOTE=MrMatrix;2631668]Plenty of sex shops in Soho, and all over London and the UK in fact. The best known and most reputable is Ann Summers who has a store on Wardour Street in Soho, they also have a website so you can check what is on offer. Best wishes finding a solution.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much. I'll make note of your suggestion. I looked at the website and it looks like what I'm looking for. My business trip was canceled last night because of the new PCR test + 2 days self-isolation requirement kicking in on Tuesday. The conference likely will be rescheduled for early 2022, so I will try later.

Where do you see the two day isolation requirement?

Also, can we share agency telegram groups here? I found two and I'm looking for more.

As of today anyone flying into UK has to have a PCR by day 2 and self isolate until they do not have a clear test result.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2632266]Where do you see the two day isolation requirement?

Also, can we share agency telegram groups here? I found two and I'm looking for more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aimara;2632457]As of today anyone flying into UK has to have a PCR by day 2 and self isolate until they do not have a clear test result.[/QUOTE]Man! When you think it's getting better, the virus (and panic) hits the reset button. I think some of it is just abundance of caution, but definitely a pain for hobbyists.

On a different note, has anyone met Aloe at Diva? She's under the "New Girls" section. Looks heavenly.

So I took a punt with another AW girl after trying a few agencies and still being a bit miffed. But what a find! Claudia is friendly, funny very sensuous and lots of fun! Really pretty lady, busty and curvy. Not one of those that like slimmer working girls, but not fat or overweight. She has curves, a great arse and great tits. Not even close to being a clock watcher, paid for an hour spent almost two with her.

She is based in West Ken, near the station in a basic working flat, not sure how often she works but if you see her around and are in the area, go for it!

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[QUOTE=Max#01;2631312]Folks. Visiting London this week and have a sincere question. I had prostate cancer surgery a while back. The surgeon was able to remove the prostate robotically and save the surrounding nerves. So, I can still have orgasms, but they are dry orgasms. That's OK. Cleanup is easy! But, I'm not able to have an erection strong enough for sex. Heaven knows I've tried! The doc as recommended a penis pump. (I'm already taking daily Cialis, which has helped somewhat.) I also need a ring and lube. Is there a reputable sex shop in Soho or elsewhere where I might be able to purchase a "starter kit?" I'd like to try it first to see if it makes a difference before I dive into the escort scene in London. The closest city to where I live that might have a sex shop is 60 miles away, so I can't make it there and back and catch my flight. Having said all this, all the cancer came out with the prostate. So, I really can't complain if my sole consenting adult activity from here on out are hand jobs! Thanks for advice and recommendations![/QUOTE]Unrelated to the sex shops, but you might consider getting an implant eventually. Seems to be the way to go for similar in your situation. Best of luck on the hunt.

I met up with a good Chinese escort listed on the adultwork website. She was 22 years old. Her body was petite, a true spinner. Perky be cup tits with no baby damage. Said she was a student.

Her place was in a high rise in Canary Wharf. Met up with her around 10 PM on a weeknight. The German-sounding guard asked which room I wanted to see and pointed me in the right direction to take the lift to her room.

The place was a clean, warm modern studio apartment. The girl was immediately GFE after opening the door. Paid her upfront while I got comfortable and warmed up in the washroom. We got down to business quick with DFK which quickly lead to a CBJ. I normally don't appreciate the cover but her skills and small body made up for it. She only asked me to not "kiss" her bottom. She exaggerated the sucking noises as I stared and played with her tight pussy.

Got hard quick and entered her in missionary. After a few minutes she trusted me enough to go deep and bottomed out in her. Tight and deep with a cute smile enjoying the moment. What an angel. Blew my load not long after filling her out.

Washed up and got a 30 minute massage that was good.

Turned around for another session and got myself ready this time to speed things up. Didn't like doggy style as she did not want any sort of speed picking up in that position so turned it around back to missionary. Finished up and cleaned up once again.

WIR? Yes.

Cost? 150 GBP for an hour with two shots.

Girl was an easy 7/10 in any man's eyes, probably higher if you like small girls. She had three circles in her skin around her SI joint that looked artificial in reddish filled in circles. I remember seeing this before but am unsure where. I was dubious about the girl's quality from the manager but immediately was satisfied upon seeing her.

As my first escort was preoccupied the other night, I decided to try my luck again on the adultwork site. Contacted another girl and set up a time to meet her at her place off Fashion St. I had an eerie feeling about this escapade but went for it anyway.

First thing was a polite able-bodied beggar giving me his swan song and begging me for cash. The place did not seem such a nice area. Kept walking down a road with few pedestrians and little lighting. Definitely not nearly as nice as the Canary Wharf area. Anyway, finally get to the meeting point and am told to wait underneath the only lit sign on the street.

A minute later a beat up car appears down the one-way street with a lone passenger. It's a disabled woman with crutches. I get a call as this woman is exiting the vehicle and am told by a Chinese lady she cannot see me but asks if I can see her building. As I was standing directly across from it I immediately confirmed. The phone lady asked me to enter the beat up old shitty apartment building the disabled woman was just starting to have a go at opening up.

I should have probably had more sense and waited for a bit but the Chinese girl was buzzing at the same time and asking me to come up to her floor. As I started to move towards the door the disabled girl must have thought I was waiting to pounce on her, immediately panicking while falling to the floor screaming RAPE RAPE, he'S TRYING TO RAPE ME! SOMEBODY HELP, RAPE RAPE RAPE! She was in a state of pure panic and could not even find the strength to pick herself up or catch her breath. I stood outside the apartment for a few minutes hoping she would calm down and get up to where she needed to be to leave me alone.

The Chinese girl, oblivious to all this, started angrily calling me asking why I'm playing games and dicking her around. I tried to explain what had just happened and she understood someone was just screaming and that it was a girl scared of my presence. She told me to come up and she'd buzz me in. Well that disabled girl was waiting by the door and immediately jammed it with her crutch while again screaming that someone was trying to break in and abduct or rape her. This is all bad theater at this point. I try yelling to her that I'm here to see a friend and not interested in her. The girl remained hysterical and finally heard some guys' voices and rumbling coming down the building.

Here I am waiting for some pissed off boyfriend or family to come out looking for a fight over nothing at this point. What are the chances of this shit happening? This is almost as surreal as the attempted Russian / Romanian mugging I experienced in Barcelona many years ago which amazingly ended in laughs and me getting a full refund. Luckily whatever men she was shouting with did not have the gumption that night for a rumble. A few minutes pass and I'm able to walk up the stairs to the Chinese room.

What a waste, a fat Chinese girl. I desperately asked her hoping she had other girls in the apartment. She confirmed it was only her. I immediately left as she blocked me on WhatsApp. I explicitly asked her if her photos were her and she confirmed. Catfished the worst way.

I've definitely had some forgettable experiences with working girls but nights like that you never forget, not any detail. Sometimes it's good, sometimes unforgettable.

[QUOTE=CaliTexMex;2634974]... She only asked me to not "kiss" her bottom. She exaggerated the sucking noises as I stared and played with her tight pussy.....[/QUOTE]Did the playing include DATY?

[QUOTE=CaliTexMex;2634977]As my first escort was preoccupied the other night, I decided to try my luck again on the adultwork site. Contacted another girl and set up a time to meet her at her place off Fashion St. I had an eerie feeling about this escapade but went for it anyway.

First thing was a polite able-bodied beggar giving me his swan song and begging me for cash. The place did not seem such a nice area. Kept walking down a road with few pedestrians and little lighting. Definitely not nearly as nice as the Canary Wharf area. Anyway, finally get to the meeting point and am told to wait underneath the only lit sign on the street.

A minute later a beat up car appears down the one-way street with a lone passenger. It's a disabled woman with crutches. I get a call as this woman is exiting the vehicle and am told by a Chinese lady she cannot see me but asks if I can see her building. As I was standing directly across from it I immediately confirmed. The phone lady asked me to enter the beat up old shitty apartment building the disabled woman was just starting to have a go at opening up.

I should have probably had more sense and waited for a bit but the Chinese girl was buzzing at the same time and asking me to come up to her floor. As I started to move towards the door the disabled girl must have thought I was waiting to pounce on her, immediately panicking while falling to the floor screaming RAPE RAPE, he'S TRYING TO RAPE ME! SOMEBODY HELP, RAPE RAPE RAPE! She was in a state of pure panic and could not even find the strength to pick herself up or catch her breath. I stood outside the apartment for a few minutes hoping she would calm down and get up to where she needed to be to leave me alone.

The Chinese girl, oblivious to all this, started angrily calling me asking why I'm playing games and dicking her around. I tried to explain what had just happened and she understood someone was just screaming and that it was a girl scared of my presence. She told me to come up and she'd buzz me in. Well that disabled girl was waiting by the door and immediately jammed it with her crutch while again screaming that someone was trying to break in and abduct or rape her. This is all bad theater at this point. I try yelling to her that I'm here to see a friend and not interested in her. The girl remained hysterical and finally heard some guys' voices and rumbling coming down the building.

Here I am waiting for some pissed off boyfriend or family to come out looking for a fight over nothing at this point. What are the chances of this shit happening? This is almost as surreal as the attempted Russian / Romanian mugging I experienced in Barcelona many years ago which amazingly ended in laughs and me getting a full refund. Luckily whatever men she was shouting with did not have the gumption that night for a rumble. A few minutes pass and I'm able to walk up the stairs to the Chinese room.

What a waste, a fat Chinese girl. I desperately asked her hoping she had other girls in the apartment. She confirmed it was only her. I immediately left as she blocked me on WhatsApp. I explicitly asked her if her photos were her and she confirmed. Catfished the worst way.

I've definitely had some forgettable experiences with working girls but nights like that you never forget, not any detail. Sometimes it's good, sometimes unforgettable.[/QUOTE]This is a great story. These things happen once in a lifetime. It is both funny and sad. For sure you have lost your time but you have gain a great story to tell to your friends and why not even to grandchildren. Generally speaking this is what you will get a lot of times in adultwork and my opinion is that you are better of financially if you use an reputable agency. Although the do play games the will not play really bad games. By the way I was in this street maybe 3-4 month ago. I made the booking and the girl didn't answer the door. For me that I live in London and have time to spend it's not that annoying anymore because I combine bookings with an opportunity to see the area. But for tourist I think it's bad to loose valuable time in these kind of things.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2635212]Did the playing include DATY?[/QUOTE]It did not.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2632784]Man! When you think it's getting better, the virus (and panic) hits the reset button. I think some of it is just abundance of caution, but definitely a pain for hobbyists.

On a different note, has anyone met Aloe at Diva? She's under the "New Girls" section. Looks heavenly.[/QUOTE]Oh, boy. I'm glad I found this.

I just had Aloe from Diva for 30 minutes today. Great body, but by far the worst service I've ever had.

She's a 19 year old Russian brat with bare-basic English skills (struggles with even "how are you") and is apparently allergic to smiling.

Just bad vibes all around from her. You get the feeling that she doesn't want to be there and is in general just rude. She rolls her eyes when you try to make small talk. Her BJ skills are really perfunctory (just shallow bobbing + tugging). She randomly complains about things in Russian while you're in the act. No touching or anything other than dead fish in each position. I did COB, and had to ask her for a towel for a little cleanup on my end. She just threw a toilet paper roll at the far end of the bed, and then stood there like she wanted me to leave. I can give more examples of her rudeness but I think you get the point.

Body wise, she's hot. She's tiny, which isn't really my thing. Feels like a fragile bird since she's all of maybe 40 kg. No ass really, which was a little deceiving from the photos.

I'm generally used to the Russian chill you get from these girls, but this one was pretty miserable. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. There were attempts at small talk but she was just so disinterested I gave up. Kind of a shame since she charges a higher rate. If you speak Russian or really make an effort to break down walls, she might be fun but it shouldn't really be on us to make that happen (it's a service after all).

Hope that helps. I'll try some others from Diva this week and post what I get.

[QUOTE=BearSputnik;2638621]Oh, boy. I'm glad I found this.

I just had Aloe from Diva for 30 minutes today. Great body, but by far the worst service I've ever had.

She's a 19 year old Russian brat with bare-basic English skills (struggles with even "how are you") and is apparently allergic to smiling.

Just bad vibes all around from her. You get the feeling that she doesn't want to be there and is in general just rude. She rolls her eyes when you try to make small talk. Her BJ skills are really perfunctory (just shallow bobbing + tugging). She randomly complains about things in Russian while you're in the act. No touching or anything other than dead fish in each position. I did COB, and had to ask her for a towel for a little cleanup on my end. She just threw a toilet paper roll at the far end of the bed, and then stood there like she wanted me to leave. I can give more examples of her rudeness but I think you get the point.

Body wise, she's hot. She's tiny, which isn't really my thing. Feels like a fragile bird since she's all of maybe 40 kg. No ass really, which was a little deceiving from the photos.

I'm generally used to the Russian chill you get from these girls, but this one was pretty miserable. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. There were attempts at small talk but she was just so disinterested I gave up. Kind of a shame since she charges a higher rate. If you speak Russian or really make an effort to break down walls, she might be fun but it shouldn't really be on us to make that happen (it's a service after all).

Hope that helps. I'll try some others from Diva this week and post what I get.[/QUOTE]Ouch! But why go with a 300 £ girl with no reviews. Why not go with a girl with at least a few good reviews? There are so many great girls and a lot at 200. Why roll the dice?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2638707]Ouch! But why go with a 300 girl with no reviews. Why not go with a girl with at least a few good reviews? There are so many great girls and a lot at 200. Why roll the dice?[/QUOTE]Maybe take one for the team? I do like trying the newbies to see if there are any diamonds in the rough. Honestly though, I'm new to diva and confused where the "reviews" are. Like on the pages themselves, maybe 1 out of 10 has some reviews on it. If you can point me to where the reviews for each one are, that'd be awesome. I search through this thread for each name, and it's hit or miss because some change their names.

BTW I'm going on another today and this one had a couple positives here in the thread. See how it goes.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2638707]Ouch! But why go with a 300 girl with no reviews. Why not go with a girl with at least a few good reviews? There are so many great girls and a lot at 200. Why roll the dice?[/QUOTE]The way I look for Diva girls is go to the Reviews pulldown on the top. This covers all reviews in chronological order. You can click into any girl and check her out. For my money Tavolga looks a lot like Aloe (not my type so I could be wrong) is Russian, same price and has a boatload of great reviews. Only been on since June which is good also.

I see no way you can go wrong with her and if you do it's more likely you than her based on her track record.

[QUOTE=BearSputnik;2638621]Oh, boy. I'm glad I found this.

I just had Aloe from Diva for 30 minutes today. Great body, but by far the worst service I've ever had.

She's a 19 year old Russian brat with bare-basic English skills (struggles with even "how are you") and is apparently allergic to smiling.

Just bad vibes all around from her. You get the feeling that she doesn't want to be there and is in general just rude. She rolls her eyes when you try to make small talk. Her BJ skills are really perfunctory (just shallow bobbing + tugging). She randomly complains about things in Russian while you're in the act. No touching or anything other than dead fish in each position. I did COB, and had to ask her for a towel for a little cleanup on my end. She just threw a toilet paper roll at the far end of the bed, and then stood there like she wanted me to leave. I can give more examples of her rudeness but I think you get the point.

Body wise, she's hot. She's tiny, which isn't really my thing. Feels like a fragile bird since she's all of maybe 40 kg. No ass really, which was a little deceiving from the photos.

I'm generally used to the Russian chill you get from these girls, but this one was pretty miserable. I couldn't get out of there fast enough. There were attempts at small talk but she was just so disinterested I gave up. Kind of a shame since she charges a higher rate. If you speak Russian or really make an effort to break down walls, she might be fun but it shouldn't really be on us to make that happen (it's a service after all).

Hope that helps. I'll try some others from Diva this week and post what I get.[/QUOTE]Wow, what a *****!

I could well understand the lure of a hot photograph without a review. I could see it happening to me if the girl looks really nice. In such a situation two things must happen to salvage the session. With a poor BJ I must have DATY to show her how oral must be delivered. Even with a bad attitude a good DATY will get me hard. Secondly, a sour look on her face might reduce my erection so doggie is a must. So DATY and doggie could save the day. Did she allow DATY?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2638907]Did she allow DATY?[/QUOTE]Honestly. Didn't even get there. Was struggling to even communicate with her on what I wanted.

Happy to report though I saw Endelyn (from Diva) today and she was awesome. Great body, chatty, eager to please. She's game for whatever you want from her and not a clock watcher. Her BBBJ skills were amazing (she has plump lips and makes eye contact the whole time). Only complaint is she's a little over the top with the PSE sounds. Would definitely repeat.

I'll try Tavolga if I can book her before I go. I think she's fairly popular.

[QUOTE=BearSputnik;2638868]Maybe take one for the team? .....[/QUOTE]Much appreciated. Thank you.

[QUOTE=BearSputnik;2638621]Oh, boy. I'm glad I found this.

I just had Aloe from Diva for 30 minutes today. Great body, but by far the worst service I've ever had.

Hope that helps. I'll try some others from Diva this week and post what I get.[/QUOTE]This definitely helps!! Thanks for TOFTT.

Did you let Diva know of the feedback? I've seen people post here that they take their feedback seriously.

Anyway, thanks again for the input!

[QUOTE=AlwaysOn2020;2640628] Did you let Diva know of the feedback? I've seen people post here that they take their feedback seriously.[/QUOTE]I posted a review of her and it's live on the site now. It does seem like Diva does care about genuine feedback and they remove girls that gather too many negative reviews.

Another report: Saw Fortune for 1 hour a couple days ago.

She's just as hot as her photos and people are correct for saying she has an amazing ass. Physical attractiveness is 10/10. She's much hotter than her grainy videos make it look.

Pros:

She's perky, excitable, and clearly likes sex. First thing she says to you when you walk in is "how would you like to fuck me". She's young with a great body. Fairly easy to talk to. She's quite hyper (all over the place).

Cons:

I was honestly surprised that her service was IMO quite average. BBBJ was up and down. Regular BBBJ used a lot of teeth, but she can DT like a champ. Based on her personality you'd think she'd be a tiger in the sack, but she was kind of phoning it in. She wasn't particularly engaged throughout. Not much moaning or participation on her end. At one point she switched the BJ to a HJ, and was just pounding like there was no tomorrow (no finesse). I told her to stop at one point because she was just punching my balls haha, to which she later said it must be that "I'm sensitive" LOL (maybe people have iron balls or something). Her GFE basically amounts to her one handed rubbing your back for 30 seconds afterwards, while she sends WhatsApp messages on her phone.

She's Romanian and definitely has the Eastern European hot / cold thing going. She comes on hot, then randomly goes cold (frowning and visible dissatisfaction), then back to hot again. If you're used to this, you'll cruise through it and know it just takes a little effort to get her back in the action.

So yeah, definitely fun with a super hot body but not exactly a master of her craft (she's 20). Part of it could be me and just a bad match though, given the other reviews I've seen of her (although to be fair her high praise is for her body and attitude, not her service). Don't think you'll regret booking her, but have had better Diva experiences.

[QUOTE=BearSputnik;2641278]So yeah, definitely fun with a super hot body but not exactly a master of her craft (she's 20). Part of it could be me and just a bad match though, given the other reviews I've seen of her (although to be fair her high praise is for her body and attitude, not her service). Don't think you'll regret booking her, but have had better Diva experiences.[/QUOTE]I very rarely return to a working girl, but Fortune is one that I would have another go at (assuming I could get back to London). It's always YMMV in this business, but I re-read my review of her (many pages back in this forum at this point), and she was indeed a great time. Of course, that was in March 2020 which is like 10 in pandemic years. Maybe she has gotten a bit mechanical and jaded?

I would imagine there are quite a few Diva girls who are newer a bit more eager to please. Sorry you had an experience that didn't meet your expectations.

[QUOTE=Atanion;2641314]I very rarely return to a working girl, but Fortune is one that I would have another go at (assuming I could get back to London). It's always YMMV in this business, but I re-read my review of her (many pages back in this forum at this point), and she was indeed a great time. Of course, that was in March 2020 which is like 10 in pandemic years. Maybe she has gotten a bit mechanical and jaded?

I would imagine there are quite a few Diva girls who are newer a bit more eager to please. Sorry you had an experience that didn't meet your expectations.[/QUOTE]Actually that was about my experience with Fortune. I'the repeat with her because she is such an amazing looking girl and has that minx personality. But her BJ is mediocre and she doesn't kiss deep (at least me).

If you wAnt an amazing BJ go with Rivetta. She's a bit hippy (not bad but not as slim as some girls) but her BJ is great. And an amazing smile and eyes. And if you want top to bottom looks looks and BJ then Noleta should not be missed.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2641348]And if you want top to bottom looks looks and BJ then Noleta should not be missed.[/QUOTE]Amen to that. Noleta is one of the most stunning girls I've spent time with in this hobby. The current pictures and videos of her on the Diva site reflect how attractive she is.

I'm planning a trip for summer and I've got about 5 days I could either spend in London or Barcelona. From what I've read on ukpunting barca is a good spot but not sure it's a must go. I've hobbied a couple of times in London, Anna at Olina and Diva so I've got a basic lay of the land. Curious if anyone's got strong preferences either way.

[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2647814]I'm planning a trip for summer and I've got about 5 days I could either spend in London or Barcelona. From what I've read on ukpunting barca is a good spot but not sure it's a must go. I've hobbied a couple of times in London, Anna at Olina and Diva so I've got a basic lay of the land. Curious if anyone's got strong preferences either way.[/QUOTE]It would be a very easy choice for me. Barcelona hands down is the better city for fun and mongering. There are literally 1000's of escorts in Barca and its pretty cost effective.

[QUOTE=MagicSheep74;2647988]It would be a very easy choice for me. Barcelona hands down is the better city for fun and mongering. There are literally 1000's of escorts in Barca and its pretty cost effective.[/QUOTE]I'm lucky enough to be able to do both in a few weeks. Cruise arrives in London. There for a couple of days, then flying off to Barca. Mongering in the UK is "iffy" for me due to the price for quality ladies, and short time there but Barca is a definite. Much better than London for quality, price, and quantity.

Pro's:

Life is harder so negotiations are easier to be had with work drying up.

Less customers so more availability.

Wearing a mask to hide your identity used to be frowned upon but now is recommended.

Less traffic on roads or people on public transport means travel is less of an issue.

Those who are shit at their job have left as they cannot afford to stay in the game.

If you have a job or still have enough money to get by, well you can have whatever you want now.

Working from home means you can finish early or take a long lunch or have people come to your office as it now is.

Con's:

Less choice as some have gone home that were really good punts.

Cancelling last min due to covid reasons is a thing.

Uber prices have shot up.

Stick out as there is no crowds about now.

Crime is on the up so not so safe to walk about in dead of night.

Some girls had day jobs in the industries that are now shut so no longer stay in the cities.

Prices have gone through the roof to cover inflation costs and the tougher competition.

I've been in London since 2019.

It was a glorious year and I was lucky to experience London in its full swing.

But 2021 was also epic in its own way.

[QUOTE=Woorace;2648793]I'm lucky enough to be able to do both in a few weeks. Cruise arrives in London. There for a couple of days, then flying off to Barca. Mongering in the UK is "iffy" for me due to the price for quality ladies, and short time there but Barca is a definite. Much better than London for quality, price, and quantity.[/QUOTE]Any tips for barca? I've seen a few sites mentioned but how's the language barrier? Doesn't seem as organized with agencies like diva in London or the FKK.

[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2651578]Any tips for barca? I've seen a few sites mentioned but how's the language barrier? Doesn't seem as organized with agencies like diva in London or the FKK.[/QUOTE]Clearly most info will be found in the Barcelona thread. What I can offer is I went to felinas bcn about five years ago and loved it. Hot girls. Luxe venue. If nothing else check out their website. You can see all the girls and the services and the rooms. It's just as nice as it looks if it hasn't changed.

So I fancied something a little different and narrowed it down to two women, Twisted Tinkerbell [URL]https://www.adultwork.com/3740260[/URL] who was in London for a bit and alena DP [URL]https://www.adultwork.com/4848933.[/URL] The plan was to see them both.

I was messed about by Tinkerbell, we set a time got there and nothing. I waited for a bit, got a new time. Same again. Nothing. So dropped the plan for two and just went with Alena. She was very good looking if a little grumpy. She didn't really smile and far to many fake moans etc. But she was hot, great body, so tight and toned. Her pussy was really tight too, not sure if it was because she was pregnant or she has always been that tight. It was an interesting experience. Not sure if I'd visit again but was a cool trip.

SJ Top 3.

#1 Alice the Blueberry girl [URL]https://www.adultwork.com/4260975.[/URL].

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Anyone know where there are some British workers? Most of these escort places are just eastern European. I'd like to be with a local if possible but seems likely not?

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2657575]Anyone know where there are some British workers? Most of these escort places are just eastern European. I'd like to be with a local if possible but seems likely not?[/QUOTE]They are available you just have to pay more. Allure is a quality agency with a handful of British girls. I am sure there are others.

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2657575]Anyone know where there are some British workers? Most of these escort places are just eastern European. I'd like to be with a local if possible but seems likely not?[/QUOTE]If you go on adultwork, there is a filter you can use which selects girls based on their nationality. Give that a whirl. Reduces options drastically but if nothing takes your fancy there, you can always go to the high rolling escort agencies.

Good luck with the locals. Though I will say it is easier to just go up north and have a night out. Plenty are ready for fun even before you walk in.

Hey guys, been into my Orientals ever since watching squid games. Surprising number available in and around London on AW, could be students or Chinese takeaways not doing so well?

Anyway I went for this punt, south of the river.

She was young, cute, willing and the place was quite nice even if the location was a bit dodge.

Damages = 120 for 1 hour capped at 2 times finish.

Looks = 7.

Body = 6.

Effort = 8.

WIR = if cheaper or she did more things then yes.

I was looking for a few extras and she wouldn't provide them.

But as the capital is opening up and more and more people are coming out of hibernation. There should be more opportunities to pull on a night out and also more AW members joining. I hope anyway.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2657600]They are available you just have to pay more. Allure is a quality agency with a handful of British girls. I am sure there are others.[/QUOTE]Bijouxescorts is also known for British talent.

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2657908]Hey.. members joining. I hope anyway.[/QUOTE]Nice review! How much to shoot the video / photo? I've been looking for cute Asians who are open to shooting videos. With mask if required.

Cheers.