Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2107249]Uh, no, they were thrown out by the Cambodian gov.[/QUOTE]Plenty of them around. Some for as little as 10 $ all in.

Apparently some people here have picked up girls (from bars) on PP to take with them to Angkor what. Can anyone who has successfully pulled this off explain how they vetted these women and done this?

Thanks.

In Vietnam a hot toc barbershop often offers BJs in back rooms by older women not working in better places. I've seen a few barber shops in PP with "hot toc" on the door plus Khmer writing. Wondered if the hot tocs here in PP offer back room BJs?

[QUOTE=NZSmith;2107973]Apparently some people here have picked up girls (from bars) on PP to take with them to Angkor what. Can anyone who has successfully pulled this off explain how they vetted these women and done this?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Vetting? Unless you get a recommendation from one of the guys on this forum, the vetting process is far from good.

In PP, I visited the bars on 104,130, and 136. I just had to mention to the girls that I was going to Siem Reap, and I had a number of offers from girls who wanted to travel with me. My suggestion is to first find a girl that you like, take her for a night and see how you get along. Make sure that your room has a safe and you should be fine. If you got along well with the girl then ask her if she wants to travel with you. Remember most girls will expect to be paid their overnight rate regardless whether you have sex or not. You can negotiate this a bit if she will be with you multiple days.

Started off about 8 pm in St 51 at the old Golden Soriya Mall area. A few semi doable FL's here offering FS for $20 usd. Apparently there is a ST room inside the complex somewhere for $3 usd. Girls look a bit skanky and drugged up so didn't partake.

The old Walkabout hotel has been demolished and is now a vacant lot. I tried to find the old Flamingo hotel but couldn't see it. Maybe it has been demolished too, or redeveloped into something flashier?

Continued on to the St 130 area. A massage chick offered me a $1 usd discount on a 1 hour $11 usd oil massage. Will have to try another day. Lots of chicks waiting at the bars outside for customers.

The promenade next to the Mekong was pretty deserted as it was around 9 pm. Two obvious trannies and one fat chick looking for customers. One of the trannies followed me up to the night market, and then gave up.

The road (st94) leading into what Phnom had quite a few freelancers, with some trannies in the mix. One chick offered up boom boom for $25 usd and pointed to a ST hotel down a side road. I kept walking and did a loop around the what. More FL's here, some doable. Back out towards Sisowath Quay, there was a cute looking FL chick on the cnr with st94 who offered up boom boom for $25 usd with a $5ST hotel nearby. I countered with $10. She came down to $20. No deal. I walked off. Looks like $20 usd is the price as she didn't call me back. Headed back to my guesthouse with the intention of hitting Massa the next night as a more salubrious choice.

[QUOTE=Franga;2108492]Started off about 8 pm in St 51 at the old Golden Soriya Mall area. A few semi doable FL's here offering FS for $20 usd. Apparently there is a ST room inside the complex somewhere for $3 usd. Girls look a bit skanky and drugged up so didn't partake.[/QUOTE]The main area of Soriya Mall for the Freelancers (across Heart of Darkness, under the metal dome) is currently be renovated. All the tables are not there. When they finish, more girls should be there. Why did they wait until high season to do the remodel.

[QUOTE=Franga;2108492]I tried to find the old Flamingo hotel but couldn't see it. Maybe it has been demolished too, or redeveloped into something flashier?[/QUOTE]It is on Street 172, just 100 meters east from Pontoon. It is gutted right now. Seems they are totally remodeling it.

[QUOTE=Franga;2108492]Back out towards Sisowath Quay, there was a cute looking FL chick on the cnr with st94 who offered up boom boom for $25 usd with a $5ST hotel nearby. I countered with $10. She came down to $20. No deal. I walked off. Looks like $20 usd is the price as she didn't call me back.[/QUOTE]There are some SWs along the riverside (Sisowath Quay). Not too many, or else, IMO, the government will crack down. But they are on the ugly side. Last year, I overheard 2 Africans talking. One of them told the other guy that the girls can be had for $15. That price seems right for the stuff you see on the riverside.

Heading to Phnom Penh Feb. 14 - 18,2018 for the first time.

I have been following the PP and Sihanoukville threads for a while. My question to the veterans is this: as a 1st-timer, would you do a side trip to Sihanoukville if you only had 4 days in Cambodia? I am leaning towards no.

[QUOTE=Free2;2110309]Heading to Phnom Penh Feb. 14 - 18,2018 for the first time.

I have been following the PP and Sihanoukville threads for a while. My question to the veterans is this: as a 1st-timer, would you do a side trip to Sihanoukville if you only had 4 days in Cambodia? I am leaning towards no.[/QUOTE]If you only have 4 days, no. If you have one week, yes.

Hi guys,

arrived in PP tonight. Had a little poke about staying on 130 street at Lux hotel. Just to see if 252 massage wasAstill open and if there was any more near by that offers the same.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=DonzieBhoy;2110347]Hi guys,

arrived in PP tonight. Had a little poke about staying on 130 street at Lux hotel. Just to see if 252 massage wasAstill open and if there was any more near by that offers the same.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]In 2013 you was a newbie in Budapest, but no reports. You have also been in Thailand. Also no reports. Now you go to Phnom Penh. Again only question and no real report. Why should we answer your questions?

Hello,

I am visiting Phnom and Siem for a week in December.

Would love to know the best places to monger and some direct contacts also please. I RTFF but couldn't find anything solid. Please guide me. Will reciprocate when you guys visit India anytime.

[QUOTE=WingMancbe;2110676]Hello,

I am visiting Phnom and Siem for a week in December.

Would love to know the best places to monger and some direct contacts also please. I RTFF but couldn't find anything solid. Please guide me. Will reciprocate when you guys visit India anytime.[/QUOTE]There is plenty of info just Google Penom Penh redlight, bar girls. Etc. And check youtube. A lot of that info was verified in posts here a couple months ago. P.S. I don't remember it directly just researched but never went decided Thailand was smarter choice.

Yes, 252 is still open.

Here's what I now do to avoid being gouged on prices. First, say to the mamasan and the guy on reception that you are only willing to pay $7 usd for the room rent /"massage". They will agree to this. Last time in February they charged me $15 and I stupidly agreed.

Second, tell the mamasan that you will only pay $25 usd for boom boom. She will say that you will have to ask the girl first. So pull a chick out of the fishbowl, and then in front of the mamasan and the reception guy start bargaining with the chick for the boom boom price. The first chick I pulled out said she wanted $50 usd. I said no, $25, so chucked her back in the pond. What is her pussy lined with gold dust? Guess she took one for the team.

Next girl agreed to my very generous offer of $25 usd. So that was it. Do all the negotiations in the waiting room. Don't go up to the room after having paid the room, or the girl will treat you like a fool and say that boom boom is $80 usd. Then you will have all sorts of problems trying to negotiate her down to a reasonable price.

I have done this 3 times now. Walked out $32 lighter, and no nasty price surprises. Pretty good fuck each time. Girls are in the 6 to 7 range but all are young. Bed is clean and there is aircon, and a cold water shower. I recommend you bring your own condoms as theirs are too small and too thick. BYO lube too.

This is my first time to Phnom Penh, the first 2 days I tried tinder and I got 10+ matches.

Most are "normal" girls who looking for serious relationship.

With 2 of the matches are working girls who go direct to the business, quote me $100 and $150 for going to my place.

The one who quote $150 are stunning (at least in the pictures) among those matches.

And she told me she is working in "Daring" and everybody pay this range.

I am not sure if it worth the price so just tell her I got other appointment and wish her good luck.

I picked the $100 offer, and on her way to my hotel she offered me $200 for threesome.

And I accepted (I don't know why I was doing this.) and after 15 minutes the hotel front desk asked me am I expecting "visitors".

The ladies are around 25-28 years old. One of them can speak a little English and the others are zero English.

4 hands Massage BJ make love. And I feel it like going to Gym for exercise, more than enjoyment.

The next day I rather go massage / sauna. I will post my other report on Hotel Luxury World massage if I have chance.

I was looking for massage and wondering if Mean Haur, Hotel Luxury World or Massa.

Found out Hotel Luxury World is just within 7 minutes walk from my place so try it.

After a long day working. I got there around 8:15 pm. 1 F is the reception and Fish Bowl. There are around 20+ girls with a number tag, Khmer dress in pink while Vietnam dress in blue.

My rule for fish bowl selection is: Pick the one who keeps smiling to you and have eye contact with you.

The one I pick is blue no 18, 20 24 yo, very nice figure.

Pay $10 to the reception for 1 HR massage / sauna room rent.

And follow the girls upstair to a room, with bed, shower, and a small sauna / stream chamber.

After Stream (I have been inside for 5-8 minutes but the stream is not hot enough) shower by yourself (I heard report say some will help you shower or shower together after FS) massage (it just about 10-15 minutes and so so).

Then she offered $80 for FS. I try to negotiate but she is really firm on it, so I accepted.

GFE Kiss (I did't expected that, it really turned me on) Body lick CBJ FOV until she really wet Missionary finish.

There still 15 minutes left and she offer one more time at $150 in total.

I was not in the mood (I feel really tired and hungry) but her GFE kiss turned me on again. And she accepted $130 in total, and start with fierce cowgirl and finished with doggy.

I will proper try a Khmer (I heard they cost less) next time.

It seem the massage here is actually side dish and not really helping you refresh, but and the FS are the main course.

[QUOTE=Free2;2110309]Heading to Phnom Penh Feb. 14 - 18,2018 for the first time.

I have been following the PP and Sihanoukville threads for a while. My question to the veterans is this: as a 1st-timer, would you do a side trip to Sihanoukville if you only had 4 days in Cambodia? I am leaning towards no.[/QUOTE]4 days is too short for visiting Phnom Penh AND Sihanoukville. It takes about 4 hours to drive from PP to Sihanoukville by taxi (and around 5,5 hours by minivan). I like Sihanoukville much more than PP but both cities are worth to vsit. If you will stay in PP a must see are the killing fields (around 15 km). Sihanoukville has a nice (small) waterfall.

[QUOTE=XiaomingZhang3;2111099]Pay $10 to the reception for 1 HR massage / sauna room rent.

Then she offered $80 for FS. I try to negotiate but she is really firm on it, so I accepted.

There still 15 minutes left and she offer one more time at $150 in total.

I was not in the mood (I feel really tired and hungry) but her GFE kiss turned me on again. And she accepted $130 in total, and start with fierce cowgirl and finished with doggy.[/QUOTE]You pay that if you want, but in all 140 dollar for one hour. Why go to Cambodia for that?

[QUOTE=AskeAske;2111399]You pay that if you want, but in all 140 dollar for one hour. Why go to Cambodia for that?[/QUOTE]My first thought was "That's a West European price in a poor Asian country" except I've always gotten away with less under 100 Euros in Germany. And we wonder how prices get exorbitant in SE Asia?

I'm going to Phnom Penh and staying at Comfort House (see here: [URL]https://www.agoda.com/comfort-house/hotel/phnom-penh-kh.html?searchrequestid=0783f3ca-95a9-436a-ad79-0aea0a83dc37[/URL]) for a month. Will I have any trouble bringing girls up to my room?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2111415]My first thought was "That's a West European price in a poor Asian country" except I've always gotten away with less under 100 Euros in Germany. And we wonder how prices get exorbitant in SE Asia?[/QUOTE]He way overpaid.

He should have paid between $7-$10 for the massage. My guess is that he should have paid between $25-$50 for the tip. Maybe some girls might hold out for more if you're a tourist; not sure. Note sure if you can low-ball and get it for $20. Franga wrote that most girls will accept $25 at the other massage parlor. $40 should be a great price for her; she should be very happy. You need to be prepared to walk out to get the normal price. Obviously the guy never was prepared to walk out.

I realize that for those of you who've been mongering for a while, this information is old news and much of it can be gleaned from other corners of the internet. But for those folks new to mongering or unsure how things work in PP I hope this info will be helpful.

I've lived in PP for +6 months now and gotten dozens of oil massages around town (and in Siem Reap). I've gotten a happy ending in +90% of my oil massages by following a few basic rules. If others have pointers to add please respond. I'm sure different techniques work for different folks. Below is what nearly always works for me.

1) Select a massage parlor in the tourist areas along the river. The 10% of places where I was unsuccessful were all in established neighborhoods. In the tourist areas, I'm pretty much at 100%.

2) Go during off-hours or be the only customer. I prefer to go mid-day on a weekday and I check to see how many pairs of shoes are at the front door. If I see Western style shoes I either come back another time or pick a different place. An empty massage shop means ladies are not making any money and my thought is they're more willing to work for a tip to make some money during slow times.

3) Select a 1 hour oil massage. You will not get a happy ending with a foot massage.

4) Be friendly to the masseuse. If you are friendly and maybe can say a few words in Khmer, you will make the lady more comfortable and with her comfort comes her willingness to be nice back to you.

5) Oil massages are done totally nude. When you go into the room you will be told to take off your clothes and lay down. Do not leave your underwear on, do not put the towel over you or even next to you, do not put on the massage shorts. Lay on your stomach totally nude and when the lady comes in say Hello, in Khmer, but do not make eye contact.

6) If she covers your ass with towel all is not lost. Let her cover you. She may ask if it's ok to cover you. Ask if it's ok to leave it off. If she covers you let the tower stay there. When she works her way up to your ass, slide the towel up a bit to let her have more to work with. Then you can ask if it's ok to remove the towel. If she agrees and starts massaging your butt, this is a great sign. If she start massaging your inner thigh near your balls. You're in.

7) The flip. She may cover you again for the flip. It's OK, flip over with the towel, but then ask if it's ok to remove it. If she agrees to remove it that's great. Do not worry if you're hard as a rock and throbbing. Let me say it again. It's ok if you are totally hard and erect. Massages are very relaxing and a women is rubbing oil all over your body. How do you not get hard? If she let's you remove the towel you're going to get a HJ so relax. I often wonder if they let *me* make the suggestion to remove the towel so it's not her being the naughty girl and initiating something sexual.

8) Don't rush her to jack you off. Ignore your hard on and do not ask her to finish you off. It's obvious what you want so lay there and enjoy the oil massage. It's called a happy ending because it's supposed to happen at the end. So enjoy letting a woman see you manhood while she is massaging you. This is also good practice at letting sexual tension build and you will have a much stronger finish if you don't rush into the ending. You paid for an hour so get an hour.

9) I don't ask for a happy ending. She see's you're hard on and you're naked. When she is ready she will ask. You want massage here? Yes. You give me tip? Yes. I do not discuss price unless she does. I pay $10 for a HJ. If she insists on $15, it's your call. I would never pay $20.

10) Cum quietly. Do not make a lot of noise. She may get in trouble or you may alert other customers of what's going on. Keep the sounds in, but enjoy what you're getting. Don's say shit like "that was good" or "oh my god" or "of shit" or something that another person might think means you're getting sexual services. Keep it down. I will whisper "slowly please" if she's hammering away trying to make me cum. The best oil hand jobs are the ones that are slow and build up.

11) Tip discreetly. Once she wipes you down and you get dressed, she will likely leave the room. Unless she is the cashier and no one else is around, I wrap a $10 bill in a $1 bill so all anyone sees is the $1 (OK so I guess I'm paying $11 for the HJ). Again, I don't want to get her in trouble. This isn't Star of Light you know. I go to a few places where the owner is the masseuse and the cashier so I can get give her $20 and walk out. If the girl stays in the room before going to cashier, I give her the $10 there and then I still give a $1 at the end so as to look like I'm tipping her. It depends on the place, situation, and how accepted happy endings are at that shop.

12) I don't go back t the same place more than a couple times per month. I am going to a massage parlor to get a massage that also includes a happy ending. I am not going to a brothel. Two of the places I go have high ratings on tripadvisor and the lady who gives me HJ's is mentioned by name in some of the reviews as being a good masseuse. Nothing sexual. I don't want to show up every week or every few days and treat her like I'm there just so she can jack me off. She is a good masseuse and I don't want to make her feel like a prostitute.

13) Be clean. This should be an earlier bullet point, but let me say it now. The more presentable (dare I say better looking) you are the more likely she will be to service you. She is a woman and a sexual being after all. I am just shy of 2 meters tall, fairly muscular, with a few cool tattoos. I am trimmed up all over my body. When she has a young-ish, tall, muscular man laying in front of her with a throbbing cock, very likely she's going to be a little turned on. If you're not in that great of shape, you can compensate by being friendly and at least clean and well groomed.

14) Do not expect full service at a tourist massage parlor. I have never gotten a BJ or FS and I've tried different techniques. Once I got the girl to kiss the end of my cock, but she wouldn't go further. If you have a technique to get FS let me know, cause I can't figure out a way. I've felt up their ass a few times will getting the HJ, but I've never gotten them naked either.

Feel free to add other pointers. Cheers.

Never understood the point of paying for a HJ. Most of the girls don't know how to do it and I can do it myself anyway. In most countries you take the girl s number and you fuck her later on but in PP forget it so massage in PP is useless if you want sex IMHO.

Nice report there Baghda. Personally I feel you are being too liberal with the removal of the towel at the start. I always start an oilie with the towel covering my ass. The chicks almost always then lift the towel into the air and have it fall back down on me. That way they see that I am naked.

So two nights ago I was angling for a massage with HJ finish so I went to Riverside massage on the riverfront. On the flip she asked if I wanted my stomach and chest massaged. As this is quite stimulatory I said yes. I was wondering if she would ask me if I wanted my dick massaged like they do in Kuala Lumpur, but no, she did not ask. I decided not to ask anyway.

Oilie cost $8 usd for one hour. I decided not to tip as I only like paying for extras and will hopefully motivate the woman to be more proactive in providing extra services. But I can fully understand that she would not want to initiate a conversation about providing a HJ in case I turned out to be some sort of tourist prude who will report her to her boss for inappropriate behaviour with the possible loss of a job. So, I think it is up to the punter to be proactive in asking.

Anyway, after the massage I wandered up Sisowath quay, and just shy of the bridge I found a real down and dirty little brothel. I was too scared to do FS as there was no wash room, which puts me at risk of an STD. So got a really great HJ from a cute little provider with nice pert little titties. Cost me 60 k riel (=15 usd). Will report on this later.

[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2113147]Never understood the point of paying for a HJ. Most of the girls don't know how to do it and I can do it myself anyway. In most countries you take the girl s number and you fuck her later on but in PP forget it so massage in PP is useless if you want sex IMHO.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been in Phnom Penh? What you say make no sense.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;2113707]Have you ever been in Phnom Penh? What you say make no sense.[/QUOTE]Probably more than you buddy. It makes perfect sense on the contrary.

[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2113715]Probably more than you buddy. It makes perfect sense on the contrary.[/QUOTE]You don't know what you are talking about. Thats why I ask you if you ever have been in Phnom Penh. I have fuck many massage girls in my room after the shop closed. Maybe they don't want with you?

[QUOTE=AskeAske;2113777]You don't know what you are talking about. Thats why I ask you if you ever have been in Phnom Penh. I have fuck many massage girls in my room after the shop closed. Maybe they don't want with you?[/QUOTE]Ahahah dude you have a high opinion of yourself ah? Want to count how many Cambodian visas I have on my passport? Be my guest. Like I said FS with massage girls in PP is useless unless you have low expectations and are willing to pay too much for a Khmer girl who won't give BJ. That's not my case so they are all yours. Show me how they look like I m curious.

This is one of the few times I agree with STB, at least in part. Cannot understand why you would pay for something you can do yourself. If the happy ending is a blowjob or fuck, by all means. I don't partake of massages anywhere including PP so I can't say much on the success or lack thereof in getting girls back to your room after she finishes work. Having walked past innumerable massage places and seeing the girls out front I would imagine your success would be based on the amount of English the girl knows and if she is agreeable or not. And I have been in / through PP about a hundred times.

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This is not Bangkok. This is not Bangkok. Repeat this before you go in. This is not Bangkok.

Visited today at 3 pm. Tuk Tuk dropped me at the corner of 252 and 63. Enter at right side of building up the steps. Turn left and the guy running the place was there waiting. He sat me down in front of fishbowl. About 25 girls there many smiling and waving. He suggested one girl, but I selected 39 with big tits. Mamasan called her out and before she could get to me he wanted me to pay for the room. I said I needed to talk to the girl first. I told her I wanted her to nyam-nyam me and me to nyam-nyam (pointing to her crotch) and boom-boom. "Ok, ok $50. " I said normally it's $25. She acted surprised and said she was good st boom-boom. I countered at $30 and she said $50 so I said no thank you.

Selected 19 a lady from Kampot. Again, nyam-nyam me, nyam-nyam you, boom-boom. "OK, $50. " No, normally $25. She countered with $35 so I agreed before it got weird. Greasy owner guy says you pay now so I hand him $7. He says it's $10. I saw it's always $7 and he mumbles to himself in Khmer and agreed.

She leads me to a well lit old, but clean room and I chat a bit in what little Khmer I know. I undress and I step into the shower and rinse off. She rinses off after me. Before I lay down for massage I kiss the back of her neck and tits which makes her giggle. Trying to keep it friendly. She tells me to lay on my stomach and I get a silly excuse for a massage. She's a little bit dumpy in the ass and small tits, but good enough looking. Two minute faux-massage and flip. Two minute faux-massage and a couple of strokes on cock. Then she tries CBJ, but I tell her no condom, but she refuses. Hmmmm. OK, I tell her I nyam her and she refuses. We'll fucking hell that's what I specifically asked for. Asked again and she refused. We'll lay on your back and let me look. She agrees and after a couple of kisses on her inner leg she's into it and let's me eat away. Nice box, no smell, but Bush on top not on pussy lips. Her pussy hair was very soft and nice. She got very wet and was into it. I don't think she would let herself cum because after a lot of licking and teasing her back started to arch and she suddenly made me stop. I got what I wanted.

Started with missionary, then sideways, and doggie. She brought the condom. I appreciate the well lit room so I could peak at the action. Dumpy ass was fun to squeeze when I popped. I was a bit disappointed that after I came she was so quick to clean up and get dressed. I paid her $35 and she walked me to top of stairs and said bye bye.

Debating if a return visit to her would ever yield a BBBJ or should I just try another girl next time. Any idea if these girls agree to go bareback for extra or if any will agree to A+? Oh yeah. This is not Bangkok. This is not Bangkok.

Baghda, Lucky you didn't go with number 39, as she was the worst chick I took in all my visits. She couldn't take a cock. In doggy and flat dog she kept trying to rotate her body sideways to avoid the penetration, which I just hate. Got her for $25 usd like the other 6 I took. Funny story, I was joking with her about having my baby. She thought I was serious and said that it would cost me $1000 usd for her to give me a baby, but then quickly indicated that the kid would be handed over to me immediately on birth!

Also, at Massa make sure you make the first offer to the chick. Don't ask them their price first as it will always be a ridiculous $50 or $80. I always get them out of the fishbowl and then say directly to her "$25 dollars boom boom okay? They will consider for a second and say "$30". To which I shake my head sternly and say "no $25". Then they agree immediately. Then pay the reception guy his $7.

Of course a $25 session will mean no 5 to 10 minute oil-less back rub, which they would probably do for $30, but that is fine with me as I am only there for the bang.

I kind of got to like this brothel. Chicks were always young, with everyone under 25 yrs. And some reasonable quality too. But my all time favorite brothel still remains New Life in Medellin, Colombia.

[QUOTE=Franga;2117894]Of course a $25 session will mean no 5 to 10 minute oil-less back rub, which they would probably do for $30, but that is fine with me as I am only there for the bang.

I kind of got to like this brothel. Chicks were always young, with everyone under 25 yrs.[/QUOTE]You can take your own oil and they will give you a 10-30 minute massage by way of fluffing.

I think 'chicks were always young' is very misleading. Very few under 25, the majority 30+.

At least it appears to be easy enough to get sensible prices. I hear they have fewer Chinese customers now. No doubt the Chinese have much better options.

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2118227]I think 'chicks were always young' is very misleading. Very few under 25, the majority 30+.[/QUOTE]Misleading? Or just a different perception? Maybe Franga just had a better choice overall that you did. There are not too constants in the world of mongering. When we went and who we are is a big factor on how we report things. If you noticed the women being older, that probably tells us the quality can vary from one visit to another. Both of your experiences add to some insight, as opposed to contradicting each other.

Case in point: I visited Medellin a while back on a short tour of the casas. I came away impressed with the looks of the girls and the overall operations of the casas. However, I didn't get any extraordinary service from any of the girls. I wasn't in a hurry to go back. I've tried other destinations since then, and still Colombia has left me the least impressed in regards to service. Yet, most other mongers will give a different account. They will greatly disagree with what I perceive to be the norm.

So, how am I am supposed to take all this in? Obviously, I need to go back to Medellin, spend more time there, try different girls, different casas and experience what the average monger seems to be reporting.

It's probably not you. Its me that's the problem.

Cheers.

This will probably be of no use to 99% of mongerers out there, but between street 82 and 78 on Sisowath key there are a number of cheap local massage shops with girls sitting outside. I ventured into one that was an obvious knock shop, as one of the girls first called out "boom boom" to me. This was No. 11 Sisowath Key from the sign out front.

I ended up taking a HJ twice from the same chick. Cost $10 usd HJ plus $5 usd to take her top off. Or 60,000 riel total in local currency. FJ's are available for $15 usd I was told. But their english is poor to non-existent.

Inside are about 3 small rooms with only space for a mattress. 2 upstairs and one downstairs. The steps are almost vertical, and wooden. There was a fan so it was not too hot while I was getting my HJ. When I returned back to my hotel I had to extract 4 long strands of women's hair from my socks, underwear and shirt, which I must have picked up from the mattress as I was putting my clothes back on. Kind of grossed me out. Looks like no cleaning is ever done on the mattresses.

For those who like it down and dirty only. Personally I wouldn't risk a BJ here for risk of gonnorhea, or FJ for risk of herpes as there is no wash room to soap off immediately after.

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2118227]I think 'chicks were always young' is very misleading. Very few under 25, the majority 30+.[/QUOTE]I had seven chicks at massa 252 and these were the ages quoted to me by each chick: 21,22, 22,22, 22, 23, 24.

Maybe they are lying, but to me they all actually looked quite young. Including everyone I saw in the fishbowl each time, of which there were about 20.

Some of the ones I took said they had one kid. Others said no kid, maybe 50/50 on kids.

I would be very surprised if there were any chicks over 30 yrs working there at all.

I have always wondered what is the correct price for a pack of boner pills. Last February I went to a pharmacy in Phnom Penh and they sold me a pack (4 pills) of Zeagra for $2.50 usd. Tried it and seemed to work. But recently in December this year I found that these Zeagra packs are now sold in all of the Smile convenience stores around town along with a nice selection of condoms.

Well, in the Smile stores the price of the Zeagra was $1.96 usd for a pack. So looks like I got ripped off at the Phnom Penh pharmacy (as expected). Anyway, $1.96 usd equates to about 63 baht.

Previously, I had been buying a 4 pill pack of Kamagra in a non-chain pharmacy in Pattaya for 200 baht, which is about $6. 25 usd. So looks like they must be making a killing on that stuff too. Another Thai ripoff? Looks like it to me.

[QUOTE=Franga;2118693]I had seven chicks at massa 252 [/QUOTE]Any success with BBBJ or A+?

[QUOTE=]Any success with BBBJ or A+?[/QUOTE]Sorry, can't help you there as I am strictly safe sex these days. Didn't ask any of the chicks.

[QUOTE=Franga;2118707]I have always wondered what is the correct price for a pack of boner pills.[/QUOTE]You paid the correct price. You paid $2.50 for Zeagra at a pharmacy. You paid $1.96 at Smile Mart. There can be small price differences for many items depending on where you buy it.

[QUOTE=Franga;2118707]Previously, I had been buying a 4 pill pack of Kamagra in a non-chain pharmacy in Pattaya for 200 baht, which is about $6. 25 usd. So looks like they must be making a killing on that stuff too. Another Thai ripoff? Looks like it to me.[/QUOTE]The non-chain pharmacies in Pattaya will rip you off. I couldn't find any of them to sell me Sidegra (generic Viagara) at close to the retail price. In Pattaya, you need to go to the chain pharmacy to get it at retail price.

[QUOTE=Franga;2118689]This will probably be of no use to 99% of mongerers out there, but between street 82 and 78 on Sisowath key there are a number of cheap local massage shops with girls sitting outside. I ventured into one that was an obvious knock shop, as one of the girls first called out "boom boom" to me. This was No. 11 Sisowath Key from the sign out front.

I ended up taking a HJ twice from the same chick. Cost $10 usd HJ plus $5 usd to take her top off. Or 60,000 riel total in local currency. FJ's are available for $15 usd I was told. But their english is poor to non-existent.[/QUOTE]You're a lot braver than me.

Assuming the girl was on the ugly side. You probably could have gotten FS from a similarly ugly freelancer along the riverside for the same $15.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2119048]You're a lot braver than me.

Assuming the girl was on the ugly side. You probably could have gotten FS from a similarly ugly freelancer along the riverside for the same $15.[/QUOTE]Yes, the chick I took was a bit on the ugly side, and wouldn't have been my first choice, but she was the first to offer me the HJ service. She did have nice pert tits though. There were in fact two other reasonably hot chicks there who would put most of the Pattaya freelancers to shame. I would do them if I could take them to a ST hotel, but didn't even try. Some of those riverside chicks are reasonable in the looks department. Not all, are ugly.

I not really had much luck with 3 somes in the past in PP. Usually the girls take turns to hide in the bathroom whilst one is on her back. They never play together. So I'm not really expecting a positive response to this question but what the hell I might as well see if anyone has some recommendations.

A friend and I will be in PP in a few weeks and I have something to celebrate so figured it would be nice to arrange a small party with some girls.

Basically I'd be looking for 4 girls to join the two of us. They can't be shy, we'd want them to all get involved. Ideally if some will even play with each other that would be perfect.

We'll be in PP for a few days before hand and will ask around at the bars near the Riverside, but if anyone here can give suggestions or advice I would really appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Noobmonger;2119477]Basically I'd be looking for 4 girls to join the two of us. They can't be shy, we'd want them to all get involved. Ideally if some will even play with each other that would be perfect.[/QUOTE]Easy answer. Cyrcee (Secret Bar). Most girls will do lesbian stuff.

[URL]http://www.bayonpearnik.com/cambodia/places/phnom-penh/bars-nightclubs/cyrcee-club.php[/URL]

https://www.facebook.com/Cyrcee-Secret-Bar-1562602580436388/

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2119502]Easy answer. Cyrcee (Secret Bar). Most girls will do lesbian stuff.
[/QUOTE]Great, I had a feeling this might be the answer but haven't been there for a few years so wasn't sure if the girls were still so accommodating.

Will head down there when we arrive and check out the talent.

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Noobmonger;2119504]Will head down there when we arrive and check out the talent.[/QUOTE]Just note that some girls are fighting with each other, and won't play with each other. Just ask them. Easy to match 4 girls.

[QUOTE=AussieGuy100;1950459]After living here for five years, here are some tips and recomm.......

14. Try not to be walking alone in darker streets after 2 am if you are very drunk, or you risk being mugged by ladyboys or guys on motorcycles.[/QUOTE]About a year ago, in what Phnom, around 1 am, a ladyboy snatched my wallet and ran away. 5 minutes later, a motorcyclist pretending to help me, snatched my iphone and sped off.

After this incident, I always put my money in my shorts with zip, then wear my jeans.

[QUOTE=SacredMan;2120934]About a year ago, in what Phnom, around 1 am, a ladyboy snatched my wallet and ran away. 5 minutes later, a motorcyclist pretending to help me, snatched my iphone and sped off.

After this incident, I always put my money in my shorts with zip, then wear my jeans.[/QUOTE]To walk around, drunk or otherwise after midnight is a suicide mission. You may get your throat slit. Go with a tuk tuk or motorcycle that.

S connected to a club or real bar. A wiseguy who is armed and pay them whatever they ask.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2121897]To walk around, drunk or otherwise after midnight is a suicide mission. You may get your throat slit. Go with a tuk tuk or motorcycle that.[/QUOTE]Might have been correct in 1997 during the coup / civil war, but definitely not the case right now in Phnom Penh.

I don't think there have been many tourist getting mugged and killed this year. But after Hun Sen took out the Cambodia Daily (a real newspaper, hence it was opposition since it told the truth and didn't toe his official line), it is hard to get Cambodian news.

Completely safe in the tourist areas, where many eyes are on you. It's not that the locals like the foreigners, but they hate the criminals, and the mob element will try to catch and beat up common criminals.

IMO, even the deserted streets won't be that bad. Although I wouldn't walk around Tuol Kork late at night (actually Tuol Kork is getting developed, should be safer than the old days). But note, logically, since you have money, you will always be a target, especially if you out staggering drunk on a deserted area. But the good news is that crime against the tourist will generally be non-violent.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2122343]Might have been correct in 1997 during the coup / civil war, but definitely not the case right now in Phnom Penh.

I don't think there have been many tourist getting mugged and killed this year. But after Hun Sen took out the Cambodia Daily (a real newspaper, hence it was opposition since it told the truth and didn't toe his official line), it is hard to get Cambodian news.

Completely safe in the tourist areas, where many eyes are on you. It's not that the locals like the foreigners, but they hate the criminals, and the mob element will try to catch and beat up common criminals.

IMO, even the deserted streets won't be that bad. Although I wouldn't walk around Tuol Kork late at night (actually Tuol Kork is getting developed, should be safer than the old days). But note, logically, since you have money, you will always be a target, especially if you out staggering drunk on a deserted area. But the good news is that crime against the tourist will generally be non-violent.[/QUOTE]I'm talking today. In any area. They may even follow your tuk tuk, if you can find a straight one after 1 AM. The mob element will look after those that frequent their clubs and use their drivers. Otherwise, they don't give a damn whether you live or die. After midnight it is completely unsafe in any part of Phnom Pehn. Don' be a fool with your life. You may get lucky but be careful PP is extremely dangerous overnight.

I am back in Phnom Penh again. Yesterday's bus ride from HCM with Sapaco was hell. Bus had a flat and we waited for two hours on the roadside. A similar thing happened last year with Giant Ibis. Coming back from HCM is always worse than going there. I wonder why. And it is more expensive too. $17 from HCM but only $12 going out from Phnom Penh.

Too tired to shag when I finally got in last night.

This afternoon I walked down by the Japanese bridge. There are a few MPs down by street 82, number 29, I think, right on the corner. A sweet looking 30 something girl took me upstairs for a $3 massage. She had me undress completely and we spent 45 minutes or so her jacking me off. She gave me free access to her boobs, which were OK, but nothing more. I gave her $10 and expected change but alas. Stupid me, I should have more change. But it was still money well spent. We spent our time cuddling, she jerking me off the whole time. But I aborted since I am still quite tired and plan to hit Cyrcee tonight.

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2122744]I am back in Phnom Penh again. Yesterday's bus ride from HCM with Sapaco was hell. Bus had a flat and we waited for two hours on the roadside. A similar thing happened last year with Giant Ibis. Coming back from HCM is always worse than going there. I wonder why. And it is more expensive too. $17 from HCM but only $12 going out from Phnom Penh.
Too tired to shag when I finally got in last night.[/QUOTE]Next time FLY. 45 minutes or 7 hours. Just $50 more.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2122446]I'm talking today. In any area. They may even follow your tuk tuk, if you can find a straight one after 1 AM. The mob element will look after those that frequent their clubs and use their drivers. Otherwise, they don't give a damn whether you live or die. After midnight it is completely unsafe in any part of Phnom Pehn. Don't be a fool with your life. You may get lucky but be careful PP is extremely dangerous overnight.[/QUOTE]I've spent a lot of late nights in Phnom Penh. Months on end. I've only ever heard of one violent mugging in 5 years.

I'm not saying it doesn't ever happen or that there's no risk or need to be on alert, but it's just not been my experience. I've been all over the city and done some admittedly dumb things, late at night, alone, walking home. Could be I'm lucky.

Extremely dangerous? Suicide mission? Meh.

BB.

Can someone tell me phonetically how to say.

1) I want to perform oral sex on you / eat your pussy. Whatever expression makes my point.

2) I want you to suck me without a condom.

3) Go slowly.

[QUOTE=BrnBeck;2124327]I've spent a lot of late nights in Phnom Penh. Months on end. I've only ever heard of one violent mugging in 5 years.

I'm not saying it doesn't ever happen or that there's no risk or need to be on alert, but it's just not been my experience. I've been all over the city and done some admittedly dumb things, late at night, alone, walking home. Could be I'm lucky.

Extremely dangerous? Suicide mission? Meh.

BB.[/QUOTE]I was going to reply to this in nearly the exact same way when I read the original post. Like you I have walked around numerous parts of town in the early hours of the morning when I didn't have the patients to deal with tuk tuk driver bullshit, never had a problem of the past 10 years.

I think like anywhere, if you use a bit of common sense, exercise some caution and aren't a loud mouthed trouble seeker Phnom Penh is no more dangerous than say, Melbourne or Singapore.

Cheers.

DingoD.

[QUOTE=]Can someone tell me phonetically how to say.

1) I want to perform oral sex on you / eat your pussy. Whatever expression makes my point.

2) I want you to suck me without a condom.

3) Go slowly.[/QUOTE]1) knyom chong see k'doey on.

2) Som on see k'dor ut meen srowm (sound as in row. Argument).

3) twer yute yute.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2126085]I was going to reply to this in nearly the exact same way when I read the original post. Like you I have walked around numerous parts of town in the early hours of the morning when I didn't have the patients to deal with tuk tuk driver bullshit, never had a problem of the past 10 years.

I think like anywhere, if you use a bit of common sense, exercise some caution and aren't a loud mouthed trouble seeker Phnom Penh is no more dangerous than say, Melbourne or Singapore.

Cheers.

DingoD.[/QUOTE]Good Luck.

More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. [URL]www.khmertimes.com/50101659/deaths-foreignors-increase/[/URL].

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.

FWIW I walked all around the Patoon area and up to 136st tonight and it felt exceedingly safe. Actually feels safer at night, than the day because every st is fairly quiet. During the day feels like a motorcycle driver might drive by and steal your phone if given the opportunity.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2128082]More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. [URL]www.khmertimes.com/50101659/deaths-foreignors-increase/[/URL].

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.[/QUOTE]If you are so scared, then stay at home. If that is more safe? If you are a little streetwise, PP is safe. But nothing is 100 % safe. When I go out drinking all night in PP I always take a safe tuk-tuk. One I know. I pay him all night. We go to a place, I come out, we go to the next place. I have never any problem in PP. JesseJames, stay at home. Then nothing happen at all.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2128082]More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women.[/QUOTE]Did the article say how they died? Why do you assume they died as a result of criminal activity? Are you sure some of them didn't die a natural death (heart attack, stroke, chronic or malignant illness), drug overdose, traffic accident, suicide, or plain old "death by misadventure" (common for tourists who don't know their limits)?

Maybe you should look at the number of foreigners who die in Thailand each year and tell us why Thailand is safer.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2128082]More than 100 foreign nationals died in Cambodia last year, an immigration dept official said this week. So Kohn Panharith, said on Wednesday that 119 foreigners died in Cambodia last year, including 12 women. Mr. Panharith added that 86 foreigners were also injured, 18 of them women. They got injured during robberies, traffic accidents and acts of violence. The number of dead and injured foreigners increased in 2017 compared to 2016. [URL]www.khmertimes.com/50101659/deaths-foreignors-increase/[/URL].

I doubt anyone mugged, robbed, stabbed or shot is going to hang around PP and have beers with the expats and tell them what adventures they had with the criminals. Go play Russian roulette and walk around after midnight.[/QUOTE]You're full of shit! You even got the website wrong. The correct website is: [URL]http://www.khmertimeskh.com/50101659/deaths-foreigners-increase/[/URL].

Out of the 119 foreigner's death, 1 was from murder. Most (86) were from illnesses. 6 were unexplained. Out of approx 5 million foreign tourist plus the ex-pats, there was 1 official murder. Not bad. Wondering if that murder was caused by a local or another foreigner. Locals do not kill tourist. We tourist are protected. The government / country needs our tourist money.

86 were injured officially, out of 5 million. The article does not break out the numbers between crime from locals, crime from other foreigners, and accidents. I would be curious on the number of non-violent petty crime.

The US state department just put out a good map indicating 7 levels of safety for travel. Note: it is not all inclusive. There will be areas of safety and danger. You still have to use your brains.

[URL]https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/[/URL]

Interesting to note that Cambodia is grouped together at the 2nd level of safety with Thailand and Laos. Also interesting is that Vietnam is lumped together with South Korea and Japan at the 1st level. As expected, the Philippines is more dangerous at the 4th level.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;2128213]If you are so scared, then stay at home. If that is more safe? If you are a little streetwise, PP is safe. But nothing is 100 % safe. When I go out drinking all night in PP I always take a safe tuk-tuk. One I know. I pay him all night. We go to a place, I come out, we go to the next place. I have never any problem in PP. JesseJames, stay at home. Then nothing happen at all.[/QUOTE]Get drunk like a fool and wander around. I don't care about PP sexpat rummies. This is a warning for those who go for short times. PP is a dangerous sh-thole. I don't have to be scared because I'm not a drunk and don't stroll around after midnight.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2128305]Get drunk like a fool and wander around. I don't care about PP sexpat rummies. This is a warning for those who go for short times. PP is a dangerous sh-thole. I don't have to be scared because I'm not a drunk and don't stroll around after midnight.[/QUOTE]You don't know what you are talking about. Yes, Cambodia and the rest of Asia are dangerous. But not because of crime. But because of the traffic. Be careful in the traffic, because that is the real killer.

I have never felt unsafe in Phnom Penh. There is no reason to unless you wander off the beaten path. Same applies to Pattya and Bangkok. Stay where there are people and you are good. Just don't act like a fool or p1ss people off.

AskeAske is exactly correct. Traffic should be anyone's main concern in the SE Asia countries.

Not sure what is the definition of "safe" here. One can google "Phnom Penh robbery" or "Bangkok robbery" to get an idea about safety level. If you can read Chinese, robbery and briberies and reported quite often in Chinese forum. Maybe the robber only target Asian with a pack or showing a phone, but who knows.

Been looking at hotels in Cambodia for maiden trip.

So far LE Grand Palais looks promising esp due to closeness to Crycee (breakfast ok? But. Seeing cheap & safe transport is by tuk tuk my question is does it really matter as long as you stay around central market or Riverside?

Pontoon seems close too.

My wishes. Decent sized room, pool, decent Western breakfast options and quiet at night. Prefer FL or pick ups and bring home to hotel room so obviously GF. Price range 60 -80 US.

Read about delivery by Tuk tuk drivers so just wait in room and see what turns up?

Any assistance appreciated.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2129503]Been looking at hotels in Cambodia for maiden trip.

So far LE Grand Palais looks promising esp due to closeness to Crycee (breakfast ok? But. Seeing cheap & safe transport is by tuk tuk my question is does it really matter as long as you stay around central market or Riverside?

Pontoon seems close too.

My wishes. Decent sized room, pool, decent Western breakfast options and quiet at night. Prefer FL or pick ups and bring home to hotel room so obviously GF. Price range 60 -80 US.

Read about delivery by Tuk tuk drivers so just wait in room and see what turns up?

Any assistance appreciated.[/QUOTE]To New Image.

I like the Riverside area many nice new hotel w pool been open up in the last few yr, many bar and pick up place are in walking distance also like the central market area near shopping during the day but most hotel is age but cheap getting around is cheap motorbike taxi is all over the place or you can hire one for the day or half day cheap.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=]I realize that for those of you who've been mongering for a while, this information is old news and much of it can be gleaned from other corners of the internet. But for those folks new to mongering or unsure how things work in PP I hope this info will be helpful.

I've lived in PP for +6 months now and gotten dozens of oil massages around town (and in Siem Reap). I've gotten a happy ending in +90% of my oil massages by following a few basic rules. If others have pointers to add please respond. I'm sure different techniques work for different folks. Below is what nearly always works for me.

1) Select a massage parlor in the tourist areas along the river. The 10% of places where I was unsuccessful were all in established neighborhoods. In the tourist areas, I'm pretty much at 100%.

2) Go during off-hours or be the only customer. I prefer to go mid-day on a weekday and I check to see how many pairs of shoes are at the front door. If I see Western style shoes I either come back another time or pick a different place. An empty massage shop means ladies are not making any money and my thought is they're more willing to work for a tip to make some money during slow times.

3) Select a 1 hour oil massage. You will not get a happy ending with a foot massage.

4) Be friendly to the masseuse. If you are friendly and maybe can say a few words in Khmer, you will make the lady more comfortable and with her comfort comes her willingness to be nice back to you.

5) Oil massages are done totally nude. When you go into the room you will be told to take off your clothes and lay down. Do not leave your underwear on, do not put the towel over you or even next to you, do not put on the massage shorts. Lay on your stomach totally nude and when the lady comes in say Hello, in Khmer, but do not make eye contact.

6) If she covers your ass with towel all is not lost. Let her cover you. She may ask if it's ok to cover you. Ask if it's ok to leave it off. If she covers you let the tower stay there. When she works her way up to your ass, slide the towel up a bit to let her have more to work with. Then you can ask if it's ok to remove the towel. If she agrees and starts massaging your butt, this is a great sign. If she start massaging your inner thigh near your balls. You're in..[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. I'm going to use it when I go in pp in Feb.

Thanks again.

Hey Everyone,

I used to visit Cambodia and have great fun. It has been close to ten years since I've had action. Can anyone give me a quick update on prices so I don't get ripped of on my upcoming trip. What I'm looking for is:

ST / LT from Girl Bar.

ST / LT Freelance from Pontoon or other club to take home.

I can never work the search function and scrolled back about 8 pages without an answer. Your help is appreciated and I'll try to post a report when I can.

[QUOTE=PunkBoulala;2133866]Hey Everyone,

I used to visit Cambodia and have great fun. It has been close to ten years since I've had action. Can anyone give me a quick update on prices so I don't get ripped of on my upcoming trip. What I'm looking for is:

ST / LT from Girl Bar.

ST / LT Freelance from Pontoon or other club to take home.

I can never work the search function and scrolled back about 8 pages without an answer. Your help is appreciated and I'll try to post a report when I can.[/QUOTE]I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.

[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2135633]I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.[/QUOTE]That is interesting. Way more than I used to pay in 2007-10. I guess that's the way it is and if they can get it then that's the market price. I'll try dating apps or go without.

[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2135633]I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.[/QUOTE]For LT in hostess bars, I won't pay more then usd60 plus barfine $10.

ST max I pay is usd25.

For any freelancers in phnom penh, ST USD20, LT Usd40.

In fact, in what phnom, I pay only ST 10, LT 35.

This is Cambodia, and if I'm a Cambodian, I too will quote as high as possible to a foreigner, just trying my luck.

We live in a world survival of the fittest. May the best man win.

SacredMan has the price right. That said he obviously knows the score and is willing to walk away from bullshit overpricing. Slowandeasy is paying way too much so he is either a newbie or doesn't care to bargain. 100-120 bucks for a girl in PP is over the top but many will pay it. Especially true of newbies / one week millionaires. If you are not desperate you should end up paying somewhere in between. Have a look at SMs view on Sihanoukville. I live there and have to agree. It is a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor destination these days. You can still get laid but it is not the easy laid back place it once was. I am leaving end of April.

SE.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2136921]SacredMan has............ Have a look at SMs view on Sihanoukville. I live there and have to agree.....poor destination these days. You can still get laid but it is not the easy laid back place it once was. I am leaving end of April.
SE.[/QUOTE]Its quite sad you finally decide to leave after staying in Sihanok for so many years.

I don't live in Sihanok but I've been to Sihanok so many times within these 3 yrs that I lost count. And each time I stayed in Sihanok about 2-3 weeks.

And I'm very familiar with sihanok as I always rent the bike from Mr Mohn whose shop is directly opp Fortuna Casino resort to roam everwhere into the rice fields and into hilltops.

Sihanoukville:

Sihanok is a money laundering paradise. And so there's a big wave of China people coming to wash their money and turn it into gold. As you already know, almost all casinos (now at least 15 legitimate casinos) in Sîhanok have very very little gamblers playing. In fact most of these casinos don't have any gamblers at all. In spite of the fact that almost all casinos have extremely poor business, yet more new casinos are being built, obviously money laundering is the key reason for such bloom. And so with the influx of China-manned-casinos, it brought along many China staffs into Sihanok thus inflating prices. It was so ridiculous that in shanghai KTV, next to fortuna casino, they charge a China hostess usd300-500 for take away.

However, in spite of the influx of China people, I still enjoy going to Sihanouk because I enjoy fucking pussies just by paying usd 5-15 for st. My friend love fucking 3 wls one after the other, and he only blast his missile on the last wl. I encourage members to take advantage of cheap ST as in what Phnom (in PP) and in Sihanouk (chicken farm and KTV street), to crank yr manhood into as many pussies as possible before you download yr bullets into yr last WL. Its really quite fun, funny, adventurous and v satisfying.

In sihanok KTV street, try not to pay more than usd10 for ST. Of course its also v gd to be generous.

The ambience in Phnom Penh is v different from Sihanouk. PP is more rowdy whilst Sihanouk is more quiet but it have many nice beaches. In Sihanok I love enjoying seafood at night in orchestral beach. Anybody that come, its a must to enjoy yr seafood by the orchaeuteal beach to enjoy the ambience. When I left Sihanouk on 2/1/2018, my friend told me orchaeuteal beach is now under intensive renovation. Anyway in 2 weeks time I will be back in Sihanouk and PP.

Phnom Penh:

I really enjoy the ambience of the hostess bars around s136 in pp as I got the chance to oggle those ladies sitting outside.

There are many places in pp to get cheap ST (usd10-20) eg in what Phnom, svay pak (there's about 8 KTV along the road with gals sitting outside), and along st2004 not far fm pp airport.

For those who have time and love backpacking, I recommend the following route, to stop and stay at each town: start from Pattaya -Bangkok-Poipet (Thai Cambodian border) - Siem reap. Phnom penh- Sihanoukville- Bavet (Cambodia Vietnam border) - Ho chi Minh.

I would like to send you my review of different spots of Phnom Penh, and then, discuss together about it.

We are now in 2018. I am a 29 years old (charming man, sorry but it is). I like to catch middle-range girls under 25 years old.

Let's discuss.

*Hostess bars.

In the dry season (no rain) and week-ends, I discovered that it's actually very difficult or even no more possible to barfine an attractive girl at a reasonable price. The most part of the lady "only drink". The salary of 100 $/ month and 1. 50 $ extra bonus (lady drinks) are enough for these girls. And, if you search enough in plenty bars, you will find someone "ok for barfine", usually a not really young and beautiful girl, at the price of: 50 $ for short time; and 100 $ for long time; "boom boom 2 times maximum" ! (passive sex).

New 2018 rule, I promise.

I feel that in the week (Monday to Thursday) and during the rainy season (August to November) it's easier to get a girl "out" and don't "over pay" because there is no one tourist customer. Only the old selfish expats:-the or at least, people not in the rush and people aware of the cost of life in Cambodia.

I meet last week-end so many tourists so frustrated in the street at around 2 AM saying things like that: " We want find girls for boom boom! It's so easy in Thailand! Here, girls only drink WTF?"

Hum, you seems right, welcome to the new Cambodia.

Something scammy is very new to me and I experiment it a lot during my last evenings there. Here the story: girls drinks with you and * do no say "no for barfine" do not say " I only drink ". Good good, I found it!

"Are you ok for long time 50 $ ?" "Humm humm, why nit why not? # drink drink ". And then! After few lady drinks paid generously and getting horny, when you want " Check bill and bar fine ". Oops, the girl no more go outside. Now changing mind. Have blood period, need to take care baby-mama, miss buffalo or other b.

Now: " I only drink sorry. Or at least 100 $ you know, Cambodia is like that ". Huch!

I am not used to this kind of cheating in Cambodia. But, my bad, I experiment more and more, time to time here:

I guess the prime minister ask the working girls to increase their prices, conspiracy, inside job.

*Massage for foreigners.

The experience it's not so sweet and colorful than in Thailand.

Here the common experience of massages in Phnom Penh:

1 - walking around the streets near the river side of Sisowath Quay, get sweat (f* hot country).

2 - putting my head behind the doors of massage parlor (usually, no body catch you outside).

3 - asking, "you have young girls for massage?? I don't like massage with grand-ma LOL LOL."

50% of massage parlors do not even understand the request and look me "confused" .

25% of parlors have only old-fat-dirty ladies available.

In the 25% left with one young girl available: many time, I order 1 girl downstairs (" you can oil massage me? You? You! OK, massage with you so " go up, get naked and then, they change me the girl by a granny and I have to / grumble-growl / to get my girl back; a young girl who cannot give decent massage and 80% of the time, do not provide any extra-special-happy-happy.

I think around 10 $ for 5 minutes working hand it's a fair deal for massage girl who earn less than 100 $ for a month of 27 days staying at work.

In Siem Reap, you can get a hand job pretty easy near the Angkor Night Market.

* Massages for Asian people in big luxurious building:

I plan to have a look at this kind of shops, but I am a shy Westerners. I need to be caught up on the street and I don't feel comfortable to go inside a big luxurious building with storefront written in Chinese only: " is it secure? They speak English? As a white skin prince charming they will try to scam me or not? Have young girls inside and if not, will be confident to say goodbye save my time and keep my money? ".

I hear about the places in Sothearos Boulevard: "Soul Golden City" ; "Elephant massage" .

Other, where?

Customers Chinese, Vietnamese, Japaneses are used to manage with that kind of place.

What about you western guys?

* KTV.

Same problem here. It's "Asian customers oriented". I guess you have to pay for room, box of drinks, rent girl (s) (100 $ burned already) and then. What? Maybe the girl do not go out?

* Darlin Darlin, Ponton:

Do we really need to pay 100 $ for a short time in Darling Darling?

Or to wait till 3 AM to meet a girl who smokes ice in Ponton?

* Brothels: Massa; shed-garage (next to the Chinese House Restaurant) ; massage parlor for "10.000 RIELS".

I have a look outside that places already and only seen fat dirty ladies who cannot speak a little word of English.

* Street: what Phnom, 51 Golden Sorya Mall.

(Promotion) you can take the risk to get HIV for 10 $ with a dirty lady without teeth anymore. She will be happy to stole everything in your home if you sleep well.

* To conclude:

I stay in this country for few time now. I really love Cambodian people, I am sweet and respectful with any of them. I am used to pay extra money for a job well done.

I understand first they miss some "ambition" : eating chicken feet everyday is enough.

I think also they have cultural mind of "lazy people". OK, they suffer of war 40 years before.

But, they are so poor. The globalisation is here right now! They don't do anything with their country, then, Chinese buy everything: open casino-brothel and put Khmers at work for a nasty salary, when they don't forget to pay them; Chinese also kill khmer motorbike drivers every weeks in the busy streets, driving so fast.

I feel so upset to see people who can potentially get 1000 $/2000 $/3000 $/ month as freelancers (like in Thailand) get scammed by other Asian people who take advantage of the political situation of Cambodia. So sad to see that Cambodians working better as slaves than they work good as entrepreneur, for their own pocket.

Thailand is a modern copy of Cambodia and the land of smile long time taken advantage of the neurotics Westerners to get so many money, building all the Issaan with our perversion.

It seems Cambodia will remain empty. A Chinese annex, like the Tibet.

Thanks for reading, hope to collect a lot of opinion here.

Hey Everyone,

Thanks for the details on pricing. I'm not one to overpay. I will always walk away if I think I'm being treated like a sucker. I've been doing this in Asia for about 15 years, but slowed down a lot recently. Anyway, is it still a pain in the ass to change $100 bills in PP? The money changer only gave me hundreds. It was a great rate, so I didn't complain.

I'm interested in meeting friends, so if anyone wants to meet-up, please inbox me. I'll be arriving on the 14th. I'd like to do some clubbing and bar hoping.

[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2135633]I did not do any short time in PP. The bar girls I took home were long time. Going rate was between $80 and $100 US + bar fine. Pontoon was ran between 70 and 120.[/QUOTE]These prices are just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=SacredMan;2136838]For LT in hostess bars, I won't pay more then usd60 plus barfine $10.

ST max I pay is usd25.

For any freelancers in phnom penh, ST USD20, LT Usd40.

In fact, in what phnom, I pay only ST 10, LT 35.

This is Cambodia, and if I'm a Cambodian, I too will quote as high as possible to a foreigner, just trying my luck.

We live in a world survival of the fittest. May the best man win.[/QUOTE]I guess I am over paying. I will try out your pricing the next time I am in PP.

[QUOTE=PunkBoulala;2137339]
Anyway, is it still a pain in the ass to change $100 bills in PP? The money changer only gave me hundreds. It was a great rate, so I didn't complain.
[/QUOTE]To change $100 usd cash notes just change your money at one of those street money changers that seem to be all over the place. But this is to receive Cambodian Riels. The rate is more or less fixed most of the time and there is only a very small buy / sell spread. So there is no risk in holding riels.

You see, everyone in Cambodia will accept riels just as gladly as they will accept your dollars. In fact the restaurant that I usually eat at in Phnom Penh actually prefers that you pay in riel. And my guesthouse has no problem accepting either riels or dollars. Sometimes I pay them in dollars and sometimes I pay them in riels. Its pretty much 4000 riels to $1 usd, so easy to work out in your head how much to pay in riels.

The money changer will usually give you a mix of 20,000 (worth $5 usd) and 10,000 (worth $2. 50 usd) riel notes. That way you always have a supply of low denomination notes to pay for all your daily needs.

Just remember that it is illegal to take riels out of the country so spend or convert them before you depart Cambodia. But no-one has ever checked me at the airport on exit.

[QUOTE=BobMorane69;2137345]These prices are just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it would be helpful if you provided the prices that you feel is fair.

Slowandeasy. Have another look at SMs prices. Add 20%. Stick to that unless you are willing to walk away. Enough said.

SE.

[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2137526]Perhaps it would be helpful if you provided the prices that you feel is fair.[/QUOTE]My concern is Cambodia will never attract our kind of visitors till:

* the price of entertainment is 2 or 3 times more expensive than neighbour countries (Thailand.) for less quality of service.

* real estate 5 o 6 times expensive for more dirty cities.

* street local food is less safe and tasty.

* cost of living is up.

- hopefully, with mobile apps like PassApp we now have good prices and facilities for transportations. No need to bargain venal tuktuks anymore.

- also, we still have easy long term visas, but, for how long?

Please, look at my long long review of the situation now in Cambodia / Phnom Penh here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?937-Phnom-Penh&p=2137290&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2137290.

[QUOTE=BobMorane69;2137345]These prices are just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Before I paid 20 to 30 dollar + BF for a girl from a bar in PP. Cheaper if it was one of my regulars. Now it is difficult to take a new girl for less than 40 dollar and many don't go for less than 50 dollar. The going rate is not 100 dollar, but it is also not 20 as before. What is your experience, Bob?

[QUOTE=PunkBoulala;2137339]Hey Everyone,

Thanks for the details on pricing. I'm not one to overpay. I will always walk away if I think I'm being treated like a sucker. I've been doing this in Asia for about 15 years, but slowed down a lot recently. Anyway, is it still a pain in the ass to change $100 bills in PP? The money changer only gave me hundreds. It was a great rate, so I didn't complain.

I'm interested in meeting friends, so if anyone wants to meet-up, please inbox me. I'll be arriving on the 14th. I'd like to do some clubbing and bar hoping.[/QUOTE]To Punk Boulala.

I been to Cambodia 3 time never need to change money I always just use USD bring small bill one and five for motor bike and hotel will also change your 100 usd bill to smaller usd bill, the THB is also widely use I use 50 bht for short trip on motor bike most vendor will give you small change in Riel and I just give it to the kid on end of my trip.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=SacredMan;2136838]For LT in hostess bars, I won't pay more then usd60 plus barfine $10.

ST max I pay is usd25.

For any freelancers in phnom penh, ST USD20, LT Usd40.

In fact, in what phnom, I pay only ST 10, LT 35.

This is Cambodia, and if I'm a Cambodian, I too will quote as high as possible to a foreigner, just trying my luck.

We live in a world survival of the fittest. May the best man win.[/QUOTE]Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?

And bar girls are still running the drink scams. The other night 5 of us were on 104. Chicks lured us into Rose Bar. We are trying to talk about getting some ass. They always pressure you by saying buy a drink first, then we talk about it. As soon as we bought drinks those biches left us and headed to the other side of the room never to return. 48 more hours until I am back home in Pattaya. This place can go to hell.

Last night I visited some places at the main intersection on 136. I ended up bar fining a girl from a place, but I forget the name. It is across from Mr. Butterfly.

Cost:

- Beer for me $2.

- Drink for her $3. 75.

- Bar fine $10.

- Her ST ask $50.

I agreed to her asking price of $50. All in this cost me $65.75. My guess is you won't get much cheaper from any of the main bars at that intersection. I'd say the girl was an 8 as far as looks and body go. She let me do whatever I wanted during our ST together and she had a good attitude with good English skills. ST in this case included two shots and she left shortly after the second shot, which was exactly what I wanted. Overall, it was a good experience and I'll probably try different one tonight.

The prices are totally out of whack with what is on offer. Who is paying these prices? I've been to Cambodia / Phnom Penh many times over the years, and it was never a great place to monger in my opinion and add to that its deteriorated at a greater pace than all other countries (from a monger perspective). I struggle to find a cause for this. Is there a way for us to fight back against this? Maybe a monger's guild / union that blacklists certain bars / girls? Or approves certains bars?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2142276]Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?

And bar girls are still running the drink scams. The other night 5 of us were on 104. Chicks lured us into Rose Bar. We are trying to talk about getting some ass. They always pressure you by saying buy a drink first, then we talk about it. As soon as we bought drinks those biches left us and headed to the other side of the room never to return. 48 more hours until I am back home in Pattaya. This place can go to hell.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PunkBoulala;2142280]Last night I visited some places at the main intersection on 136. I ended up bar fining a girl from a place, but I forget the name. It is across from Mr. Butterfly.

Cost:

- Beer for me $2.

- Drink for her $3. 75.

- Bar fine $10.

- Her ST ask $50.

I agreed to her asking price of $50. All in this cost me $65.75. My guess is you won't get much cheaper from any of the main bars at that intersection. I'd say the girl was an 8 as far as looks and body go. She let me do whatever I wanted during our ST together and she had a good attitude with good English skills. ST i...........ht.[/QUOTE]At $40, I believe she will readily agree.

At $30, she may or may not agree.

At $35, I believe she will give in too.

Can anyone confirm if the GSM Bar complex (st 51) is completely torn down now?

Renovation is supposedly ongoing.

Was there in October 2017 and 2 bars remained open, but now read they are gone.

Where have the bars / freelancers relocated?

Thanks.

TC.

[QUOTE=Tcvve;2144250]Can anyone confirm if the GSM Bar complex (st 51) is completely torn down now? Renovation is supposedly ongoing. Was there in October 2017 and 2 bars remained open, but now read they are gone. Where have the bars / freelancers relocated?[/QUOTE]Why do people always assume that when something is closed down / torn down that the bars and hookers relocate? You can read some threads and see that mongers are anxiously waiting the return of some place that closed down 10 years ago. From my mongering experience around the world, when that shit is gone then it is gone. Nobody is building new mongering venues. They may recycle an old one, but new ones just don't happen. Just be thankful that you got to enjoy it while it lasted. Those chicks are probably somewhere waitressing now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2142276]Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, this is the new reality of the scene. Am not sure what's causing the spike in prices, but what you posted is the norm. Some guys just overpay and don't care.

A buddy of mine last December took a bar girl $70ST and gave her $30 tip!

She was really cute and great service, when I BF her earlier this month. Gave her $70 and $10 for her great service. Yeah I am overpaying, but she remembered me and said my buddy gave her $100. F me!

[QUOTE=Tryntry;2144520]Unfortunately, this is the new reality of the scene. Am not sure what's causing the spike in prices, but what you.....

A buddy of mine last December took a bar girl $70ST and gave her $30 tip!

She was really cute and great service, when I BF her earlier this month. Gave her $70 and $10 for her great service. Yeah I am overpaying, but she remembered me and said my buddy gave her $100. F me![/QUOTE]Many times when I book a girl, I bargained but after the deed, I paid more then what they asked.

In Cambodia, everything we need to bargain. For eg, 1 yr ago, I wish to take a taxi from pp airport to sihanok, the taxi man quoted me usd120. After a series of bargaining, the taxi finally agreed at usd60.

[QUOTE=Tryntry;2144520]Yeah I am overpaying, but she remembered me and said my buddy gave her $100. F me![/QUOTE]Did your buddy admit / confirm this?

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2144715]Did your buddy admit / confirm this?[/QUOTE]Yes, I knew that going in but her service was way above the normal bar girls. I had bargained another girl from the same bar for $50ST, but she ended up to be a dead fish.

But that's the fun of what we do. Sometimes good sometimes bad, sometimes you over pay, sometimes you luck out.

[QUOTE=Tryntry;2145625]Yes, I knew that going in but her service was way above the normal bar girls. I had bargained another girl from the same bar for $50ST, but she ended up to be a dead fish.

But that's the fun of what we do. Sometimes good sometimes bad, sometimes you over pay, sometimes you luck out.[/QUOTE]Hi.

I meet a nice girl at Black cat bar a couple of mounth ago. She wanted 30 USD for ST.

I think the barfine was 10 USD.

BL.

A post after a long time, and I see this PP thread sounding just like the one for Pattaya. Mongers lamenting over prices. Get over it guys. People pay what they think they should and what they can afford. There is no more science to this, than a bar of soap.

I have a question for expats living here or mongers who have frequented PP several times. I have visited 3 times and I am no expert.

April 29 is the Visaka Bucha day. What does this mean for bars, girls and alcohol? I know what happens in Thailand but I do not want to extrapolate that knowledge to this market.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2145654]Hi.
I meet a nice girl at Black cat bar a couple of mounth ago. She wanted 30 USD for ST.
BL.[/QUOTE]Sorry had to do it but did you mean. Met a nice girl a couple of "mouths" ago? Seems like Freud is slipping again. LOL.

It looks like Yang Mei on st 252 is being squeezed.

It was open this afternoon but only a handful of masseuses were present. Possibly the more desperate ones. And they were in their street clothes.

I took a new one (blonde) and after considerable time-wasting with a pointless attempt at massage and numerous phone calls she indicated she would have to check downstairs if sex was allowed. She came back and told me no, not on the premises, but we could use the guest house across the road ($5). She offered to pay for the room herself but by then I wasn't interested as all the bad signs were there: pathetic massage, telephone, moaning about money etc. She wanted me to take her mobile number as she seemed keen to do home visits.

Downstairs I paid the $7 and the papa / mama confirmed what she had told me.

Given that they were still open it looks like they are being leaned on by the powers that be, looking to increase their tea money rather than to close them down altogether.

It may blow over. If not they will be back to turning street tricks which is where most of them came from.

I also noticed that most of the pimps were absent, just the doorman and two tuktuk drivers on the street.

[QUOTE=Tryntry;2145625]Yes, I knew that going in but her service was way above the normal bar girls. I had bargained another girl from the same bar for $50ST, but she ended up to be a dead fish.

But that's the fun of what we do. Sometimes good sometimes bad, sometimes you over pay, sometimes you luck out.[/QUOTE]The range of prices is quite wide depending on how much the girl needs the money, the bar she works in, and how much she likes the customer.

If she quotes a very high price it is her polite way of telling you she doesn't want to go with you. Even if you agree to this high price she's likely to give you a very basic service.

If you stagger into the bar half drunk wearing old clothes and smelling bad, she will adjust her prices up accordingly. Though if you go too far the other way and arrive wearing an expensive watch, jewelery and tell her you are staying in a hotel she knows is very expensive then similarly she will initially quote a high price.

The girls really do place a lot of importance in your personal presentation, whether you buy them just one drink or three, and how you treat them when you are negotiating a price with them (do not negotiate aggressively).

The last week of any month is when you will get cheaper prices. The girls have run out of money and need some to pay for food and make up.

In Phnom Penh hostess bars the ST price that the girls are happy with is from $30-$60 depending on the factors above, long time from $40-80. Yes some girls ask for (and sometimes get) $100 for ST or LT. That's up to you if you think that girl's energy, enthusiasm and beauty is worth it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2142276]Please tell me where you are getting these prices from. This is my second time here. 4 years ago I got a chick for 13 ST (Walkabout) and another chick for 28 LT (Heart of Darkness). This time it is like I am in a different Cambodia. Bar fines are ranging from 10-17. In some places they say barfine is buying x amout of lady drinks. Like one place you have to buy 4 lady drinks at 3.75 each. Then the chicks are wanting 50-70 ST or 100 LT after that.

At 2am last night I was able to talk a chick at Tiger bar on 136 down to 12 BF and 30 ST. Then they kept trying to make me buy 2 drinks before I could bar fine her. I told them no way. They gave in and I took the chick to my room for an hour.

Before that, me and a wingman were at Pontoon. Chicks were talking 100 ST and 150 LT. What has happened to this place?
[/QUOTE]As a bar owner who has talked to dozens of girls about their feelings towards customers, I have to sigh a little when I see threads like this about how much or little everyone thinks the girls should get!

Imagine YOU have very little money and a customer comes into your office and asks how much for your building services, accounting services, whatever it is your expertise is in.

When you tell them, they suggest a much lower price. You eventually agree on a much reduced fee because you really need the money for your mortgage and children's school clothes.

But you give your customer a very basic service with no frills and a slightly resentful attitude because they just wanted the lowest possible price rather than seeming to appreciate you and your skills. Had they shown some appreciation and offered you slightly more, you would have thrown in all sorts of extras and been a lot happier. So it is with most of the bar girls.

Their difference in attitude and performance is amazing for the sake of an extra $5 or $10.

I'd suggest you remember this the next time you are hassling a gorgeous 22 year old girl to accept $10 less for the privilege of having her take care of you for an hour or a night.

[QUOTE=AussieGuy100;2148237]Their difference in attitude and performance is amazing for the sake of an extra $5 or $10.

I'd suggest you remember this the next time you are hassling a gorgeous 22 year old girl to accept $10 less for the privilege of having her take care of you for an hour or a night.[/QUOTE]The difference is that I don't look at it as a hooker doing me a favor. I look at it as me doing her a favor. See, I have a pocket full of money, but she does not have a bar full of customers wanting to take her. She needs money more than I need pussy. Things would be different if this was the grand opening of Cambodia and there was no bench mark, but like I said I had been there before, so I did have something to compare it to. For prices to have gone up 400% was preposterous.

I never stated having a problem with performance. If you look throughout various threads, guys generally have problems with chicks they are paying too much. I paid the one chick at Tiger 30 plus 12 barfine. I paid another chick that I met close to Pontoon 30, and I paid another chick 20. I did not have a problem with the performance of either chick. And they keep messaging me even though I have no plans to return to Cambodia.

And even if you did pick up a chick that gave a bad performance, thinking that if you had given her more money she would have been better is 100% speculation. Neither can you say had you given a great performer less money that she would have been worse. That is a strawman argument. You could just as well say that a cheap chick will perform well in order to get you as a regular customer or show you that she is worth more.

As a matter of fact, I had a hooker in the Dominican Republic once give me free services (and this is not the only time one has done that) just to show me how good she was. She was confident that if she gave me a sample, I would be back for more. Performance is simply not tied into price when you are talking about hookers. I have had top notch for free and shitty for $60.

P. S. As a bar owner that employess these women, I assume that you give them a higher salary to get better performace out of them in the bar as well.

I am back home in Thailand. I met a chick at 7:30 last night. It is now 1 in the afternoon and she is still here. She has not wanted anything to eat and has not even taken any water and has been a total GFE. When she finally decides to leave, I will hand her $30 and more than likely she will ask when she can come back. I could have just as well gone to a gogo bar last night and gotten a chick that would be well over $100 and she would have been gone by now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2148272]The difference is that I don't look at it as a hooker doing me a favor. I look at it as me doing her a favor. See, I have a pocket full of money, but she does not have a bar full of customers wanting to take her. She needs money more than I need pussy.

And even if you did pick up a chick that gave a bad performance, thinking that if you had given her more money she would have been better is 100% speculation. Neither can you say had you given a great performer less money that she would have been worse. That is a strawman argument. You could just as well say that a cheap chick will perform well in order to get you as a regular customer or show you that she is worth more.

As a matter of fact, I had a hooker in the Dominican Republic once give me free services (and this is not the only time one has done that) just to show me how good she was. She was confident that if she gave me a sample, I would be back for more. Performance is simply not tied into price when you are talking about hookers. I have had top notch for free and shitty for $60.
[/QUOTE]Generally everything you say is true and obviously based on many years of mongering in Asia.

And yes of course you have all the power. Money talks. As in the tag line of this website. That was my point. To suggest to all these guys that they take a moment to think about this power and not abuse it. And also suggesting ways of getting a lower price.

I was just offering my personal observations from running bars here in Phnom Penh for five years and living here for seven years. But of course different people will have different experiences and form different views. My main point was to suggest that punters remember that the bar girls are people rather than just meat, and that they will often respond very positively to a nice approach from a customer. I've certainly found that countless times here. But yes there certainly are girls who are basically hopeless or indifferent however much you give them. And some girls who turn out to be unexpected gems. There are always surprises. That’s part of the fun I think.

Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum but an experienced monger all over the world. Will be in PP this coming week. Will report on my experiences there with an update on some places I have learned about after having RTFF (thanks guys!

Anyone who wants to hang out and share stories, drinks, laughs, etc. In PP this coming week, just let me know.

I noticed that April 14th to 16th are holidays for Khmer new year. Are the bars open or closed in PP on these days?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2151886]I noticed that April 14th to 16th are holidays for Khmer new year. Are the bars open or closed in PP on these days?[/QUOTE]Anybody who can afford to go to the provinces will go. So PP will be a kind of ghost town.

[QUOTE=Kniom;2152304]Anybody who can afford to go to the provinces will go. So PP will be a kind of ghost town.[/QUOTE]But it's a very nice ghost town. Most restaurants and bars are still open, the traffic is very light, there are street parties going on, and most importantly almost all the girly bars are still open. Sure there are fewer girls in them, but it's easy to move from bar to bar until you find a girl you like. It's actually one of my favourite times of year in Phnom Penh. Quiet streets but lots of bar action.

Hi guys,

As promised an update on PP:

GSM: Indeed completely torn down. Reconstruction is ongoing and from the pictures on the fence it looks like it will be nice. When? Nobody knows. Streets around are sleezy though, with a lot of drug hookers and ladyboys.

Darlin Darlin in the Nagaworld casino. Filled with absolute stunners, but prices are sky high. 150 USD easy, sometimes more for ST. The Chinese are taking it over, and prices rise accordingly, spending their gains from the casino.

104 Street and 136 street: It looks to me as though 104 street has lost its edge a bit. But I could be mistaken. To me it looks like 136 street has taken over with a lot more bars now, some with girls aggressively (but nicely) trying to take guys in but some are more relaxed, although the same rules apply as for taking the girls home. The pool tables are a nice touch as well. After a bit of bargaining I have been offered 30 USD for ST and 70 USD for LT. Nice girls, not the sleezy ones. Be advised that Mrs. Butterfly and Mr. Butterfly and one or two other bars at 136 (same owner) have a lot of ladyboys around.

Mao's (right next to the Night Market) also should be mentioned. Much bigger and more relaxed atmosphere as in the gogo bars, but with the same possibilities. Sort of my favorite, although it depends upon the night how crowded it gets. It closes also sooner, 1 AM I believe. But is it near to the gogo bars (either at 104 or 136) so you can walk over there after Mao's if your looking for something more. Or go directly to Pontoon.

Pontoon: Will try to check out tonight, wanted to go there every night but each time my business was concluded before 2 AM, which is when it gets crowd they say. Will try to hold on tonight until that time.

Hope this helps guys. PP is still a great mongering destination as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE=DoowahDiddy;2153578]Hi guys,

Hope this helps guys. PP is still a great mongering destination as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.

[QUOTE=BobMorane69;2153694]Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.[/QUOTE]But he is talking about Darlin Darlin. Are you implying that you can get a stunner from there for 3 $ ST, or close to that? Not a chance my friend.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2153868]But he is talking about Darlin Darlin. Are you implying that you can get a stunner from there for 3 $ ST, or close to that? Not a chance my friend.[/QUOTE]Darlin or not it s still PP so this price is ridiculous considering we are talking about f. G Cambodia and yes a few years ago stunners could be found in PP for a few bucks believe it or not.

You could indeed screw stunners in the past for $3. However saying a few years ago is being disingenuous. 20 years, yeah. These days 30 bucks for a ST from one of the girlie bars is pretty good. You did well if you are a visitor to the city. Now about these gogo bars. The only gogo I ever heard of was tried around 8-9 years back and was closed by the cops almost as soon as it opened. Where are these gogos? To me a gogo is what you find on Walking Street in Pattaya.

SE.

Reasoning that most Phnom Penh punters are familiar with Bangkok (as this writer is) I would be interested to hear some comments about how the bar scene in Phnom Penh differs from Bangkok?

The kind of comparison I am referring to is street 136 v Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy or Pontoon v Insanity. I should add that I have been to Bangkok several times but have never set foot in Phnom Penh.

Been coming to Cambodia for 11 years, approx 18 trips in that time and never has the prices I've been exposed to since 2007 even been within 75% of this $3 stunner rate??

Absolute garbage OR are we referring to late 80's / early 90's??

If so, what if any purpose does talking about prices 25+ years ago serve, assuming that they even once existed!

$3!! Hahahaha-you are a wonderful comedian!

[QUOTE=BobMorane69;2153694]Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.[/QUOTE]

Night and day, I'm afraid. Night and day. Bangkok being much much better. Cambodian culture is much more conservative. None of the bars that you hear about in these forums have girls dancing on poles. They're not even scantily clad. They serve as hostesses that try to milk you for drinks. Soi Cowboy bars have topless and bottomless dancers in them. Nothing like that in Phnom Penh as far as I'm aware. Bangkok beats PP any day. Stay in Bangkok if you can.

[QUOTE=Rocinha;2155303]Reasoning that most Phnom Penh punters are familiar with Bangkok (as this writer is) I would be interested to hear some comments about how the bar scene in Phnom Penh differs from Bangkok?

The kind of comparison I am referring to is street 136 v Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy or Pontoon v Insanity. I should add that I have been to Bangkok several times but have never set foot in Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DingoD;2156779]Been coming to Cambodia for 11 years, approx 18 trips in that time and never has the prices I've been exposed to since 2007 even been within 75% of this $3 stunner rate??

Absolute garbage OR are we referring to late 80's / early 90's??

If so, what if any purpose does talking about prices 25+ years ago serve, assuming that they even once existed!

$3!! Hahahaha-you are a wonderful comedian![/QUOTE]ST was 5 USD in the late 90's to early '00's. Gals from Sharkys and Martinis were 20 USD LT. You could head out to Toul Kork and go really low budget; get laid and have a beer for 2 USD then. Have not been to Cambo since '04.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2156891]ST was 5 USD in the late 90's to early '00's. Gals from Sharkys and Martinis were 20 USD LT. You could head out to Toul Kork and go really low budget; get laid and have a beer for 2 USD then. Have not been to Cambo since '04.[/QUOTE]I remember the good old days in Phnom Penh. I first started going there in 2002 and I wish I had gone earlier. But it was the bar raids in the fall of 2009 that marked the final end of the golden era. In spring of '09 I was still doing really sexy / pretty hostess girls for "up to you" price with no time limit or max number of shots per session. That spring I used to give my favorite girl $20 per session plus a small tip and we would shag 3 times before I would say good night to her. The next spring, after the raids, everything had changed; it was now one shot per ST for around $30. A few years after that Darling Darling opened up in NagaWorld stocked with attractive and well coiffed FL's asking $100 for ST and Phnom Penh became like the rest of capital city SE Asia more or less.

Only a little different ie you can still have a really good time in Phnom Penh with a young pretty girl for a relatively low cost with just a little luck. Last year, for example, my #1 New Girl of 2017 was a lovely 18 year old hostess girl that I met in Rose Bar. I think I gave her $40 or $50 for ST plus a barfine of $10. Our ST was only 1 shot, but she was the best New Girl shag I had in 2017, I kid you not, the sex with her was outfuckingstanding and 2017 was a very good year for me with a bunch of high quality New Girls I met in Jakarta, MNL & yes, Patpong.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2156891]ST was 5 USD in the late 90's to early '00's. Gals from Sharkys and Martinis were 20 USD LT. You could head out to Toul Kork and go really low budget; get laid and have a beer for 2 USD then. Have not been to Cambo since '04.[/QUOTE]Ok-so we have observers interjecting and calling pple out for overpaying and then quoting some mythical price of $3 from the best part of 20 years old? Somewhat puzzling and without doubt of no use to anyone at all.

20 years ago I could've purchased property in Melbourne AUS for 150 K which is now worth over a million dollars! Helpful huh?? If anyone wants to hear my stories of the cost of stuff from 20 years ago please PM me. LOL!

Anyways, back to PP in a month, looking forward to some fun times with reports to follow.

Cheers, DingoD.

[QUOTE=Rocinha;2155303]Reasoning that most Phnom Penh punters are familiar with Bangkok (as this writer is) I would be interested to hear some comments about how the bar scene in Phnom Penh differs from Bangkok?

The kind of comparison I am referring to is street 136 v Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy or Pontoon v Insanity. I should add that I have been to Bangkok several times but have never set foot in Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]After a couple of years of lurking here, this is my inaugural post on ISG. But I feel competent to address your inquiry. I'll try to be as direct as possible.

As background, I'm 75 years old and first became enchanted with the offerings of BKK over 40 years ago. For four decades, I have made the Nana Hotel in BKK my base station. I have witnessed the changes in the mongering / Sanuk scene in all of its evolution and have historically preferred Soi Cowboy over Nana Plaza. I first visited PP in early 2000. In PP, I now stay on Street 136 at the Lux Riverside.

Differences between the bars in BKK and PP can be broken down in several ways.

1. Ambience of the total venues. Cowboy and the Plaza are more brightly lit and vibrant, with girls in skimpy outfits doing the touting. Street 136 is quieter and not nearly the "neon" factor that can be overwhelming on Cowboy. Still, a lot of street activity.

2. The bars on 136 are almost sisters to small Cowboy bars like Toy Bar, Fanny Bar, Jungle Jim's. But without the overt diddling; also, without so-called "go go" dancers found on Cowboy or in the Plaza. Dancing is done when a solo girl or group of girls decide they want to dance (impromptu) . There are no rotating line ups; their attire will usually be their street clothes. This might be, at its most daring, short shorts and a cropped top. There are 2 bars on 136 that are heavy with lady boys, some of which are as initially deceiving as some can be in BKK. Those two bars are the Butterfly bars across the street from each other. I haven't noticed any lady boys in the other hostess bars. But I haven't been in all of the bars. There are a couple of bars open 24 hours and feature different shifts of girls. Candy Bar is one of them. You can check out YouTube videos for Candy Bar and Corner Bar. Corner Bar, by the way, was featuring maybe the most "risque" dancing featured as a "show".

3. Prices in the bars are substantially cheaper than in BKK bars. Barfines are generally 10 USD. I've heard that on weekends they maybe be 15 USD, but can't confirm that. Beer will range from $ .75 (75 cents) for an afternoon draught to 1.5-2 USD for a soft drink or a bottled beer in the evenings. "Lady drinks" 2. 5 USD I've never had a bar tab padded in PP. Maybe they notice that I check every piece of paper stuffed in the check bin when it is presented. LOL.

4. The prices for getting laid are substantially lower out of the bars in PP. $30 for ST; $50-70 LT. Like everywhere, you can negotiate. Until my most recent visit in August 2018, I never paid more than $60 LT. But there was one chick I wanted; She wanted $80 and I wanted to pay $60 We both compromised for $70 LT. In retrospect, I got a bargain at $70 on the basis of performance, attitude, and fun.

5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"; have very little ability to speak English (compared to their sisters in BKK). Some of the girls are almost shy; In PP, they are generally less pushy than in BKK bars nor are they as "thirsty". I find the Khmer girls more "sweet". Calling some of them "girl next door" types might be a stretch, but maybe you get the idea. There are certainly sharks in all waters who know the "tricks" of the trade.

6. I can't comment on the discos and clubs, as they aren't my preferred destinations. (No country for old men and all that. LOL).

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2157046]After a couple of years of lurking here, this is my inaugural post on ISG. But I feel competent to address your inquiry. I'll try to be as direct as possible.

As background, I'm 75 years old and first became enchanted with the offerings of BKK over 40 years ago. For four decades, I have made the Nana Hotel in BKK my base station. I have witnessed the changes in the mongering / Sanuk scene in all of its evolution and have historically preferred Soi Cowboy over Nana Plaza. I first visited PP in early 2000. In PP, I now stay on Street 136 at the Lux Riverside.

Differences between the bars in BKK and PP can be broken down in several ways.

1. Ambience of the total venues. Cowboy and the Plaza are more brightly lit and vibrant, with girls in skimpy outfits doing the touting. Street 136 is quieter and not nearly the "neon" factor that can be overwhelming on Cowboy. Still, a lot of street activity.

2. The bars on 136 are almost sisters to small Cowboy bars like Toy Bar, Fanny Bar, Jungle Jim's. But without the overt diddling; also, without so-called "go go" dancers found on Cowboy or in the Plaza. Dancing is done when a solo girl or group of girls decide they want to dance (impromptu) . There are no rotating line ups; their attire will usually be their street clothes. This might be, at its most daring, short shorts and a cropped top. There are 2 bars on 136 that are heavy with lady boys, some of which are as initially deceiving as some can be in BKK. Those two bars are the Butterfly bars across the street from each other. I haven't noticed any lady boys in the other hostess bars. But I haven't been in all of the bars. There are a couple of bars open 24 hours and feature different shifts of girls. Candy Bar is one of them. You can check out YouTube videos for Candy Bar and Corner Bar. Corner Bar, by the way, was featuring maybe the most "risque" dancing featured as a "show".

3. Prices in the bars are substantially cheaper than in BKK bars. Barfines are generally 10 USD. I've heard that on weekends they maybe be 15 USD, but can't confirm that. Beer will range from $ .75 (75 cents) for an afternoon draught to 1.5-2 USD for a soft drink or a bottled beer in the evenings. "Lady drinks" 2. 5 USD I've never had a bar tab padded in PP. Maybe they notice that I check every piece of paper stuffed in the check bin when it is presented. LOL.

4. The prices for getting laid are substantially lower out of the bars in PP. $30 for ST; $50-70 LT. Like everywhere, you can negotiate. Until my most recent visit in August 2018, I never paid more than $60 LT. But there was one chick I wanted; She wanted $80 and I wanted to pay $60 We both compromised for $70 LT. In retrospect, I got a bargain at $70 on the basis of performance, attitude, and fun.

5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"; have very little ability to speak English (compared to their sisters in BKK). Some of the girls are almost shy; In PP, they are generally less pushy than in BKK bars nor are they as "thirsty". I find the Khmer girls more "sweet". Calling some of them "girl next door" types might be a stretch, but maybe you get the idea. There are certainly sharks in all waters who know the "tricks" of the trade.

6. I can't comment on the discos and clubs, as they aren't my preferred destinations. (No country for old men and all that. LOL).[/QUOTE]Great, well written, duly considered balanced and logical post.

Sure to be a good 'on point' reference guide to any newbies to the delights of Phnom Penh.

Kudos to you Sir!!

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2157046]

5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"; have very little ability to speak English (compared to their sisters in BKK). Some of the girls are almost shy; In PP, they are generally less pushy than in BKK bars nor are they as "thirsty". I find the Khmer girls more "sweet". Calling some of them "girl next door" types might be a stretch, but maybe you get the idea. There are certainly sharks in all waters who know the "tricks" of the trade.

6. I can't comment on the discos and clubs, as they aren't my preferred destinations. (No country for old men and all that. LOL).[/QUOTE]Nice post! Very informative. Good stuff for newbies. And a very good comparison.

For 5. I'd also add that girls tend to be a bit more conservative and many won't do BJs. BBFS however is much more common. Though I really try not to fall into that temptation. Khmer girls are also less hardened and more clingy.

All in all I think I prefer Thailand, But PP is a nice change of pace for a few days :)

Have to say SS's post is the nearest thing to reality on the ground these days. Well done. A couple of things.

I have seen and heard on this board and other places that many girls in PP girlie bars will stitch you up with getting LD's out of you and then claim they don't go. Depending on your budget and attitude (BS meter) you may want to stop at one and pop the question before getting soaked for several and ending up disappointed. I rarely go to these places so YMMV.

In my experience (going back to 1996) one could get ST in a couple of well know locations though if you didn't care to bargain it was 5 bucks straight up. Tip was dependent on service (which was better than what you normally get now! $2 for a beer and a fuck? No. Even most Khmer guys were paying 8-10,000 back then. And for the record I was still getting LT from Martini in 2010 for 25 bucks. Happy hunting guys.

SE.

Great first post, Sam. Please don't be shy in reviewing your adventures in PP and Thailand. We need straight shooters like yourself here.

I agree with Uncle V about being clingy. There are girls who I haven't even seen for 2 years who are still messaging me and sending me photos. I'm assuming I overpaid them.

It's tough to compare PP to gogo bar areas in Bangkok or Pattaya. If I were to compare PP bars to anything it would be to Soi 6 in Pattaya. The difference is the Soi 6 bars are conveniently situated on one single street and PP is spread out, albeit not over a large area. There are probably around the same number of bars on Soi 6 compared to the entire main PP RLD. BBFS is commonplace in PP but it also is on Soi 6 especially if you see the same girl more than say 2-3 times. PP is much more laid back. PP is very limited so a 3 or 4 night stay is all you really need. Good food in PP around the RLD is also a struggle but a cheap tuk tuk ride to Street 302 or Street 360 can solve that.

[QUOTE=BobMorane69;2153694]Really? Wow good 4 you. If 150 $ ST for a stunner is great 4 you I wonder what a bad place is. 1000 $?

There was a time a few years ago where you could get a stunner for 3 $ so PP is long gone as a mongering place.[/QUOTE]You seem to be missing the fact that he said prices are 'sky-high' - in other words, expensive. In other words he was NOT saying that is good!

Hey,

Been to Cambodia about 3 times and yet could not find one girl or place where they give solely blowjobs. Does Cambodian girls not like giving out blowjobs? Does anyone know a spot by any chance?

[QUOTE=BlazeJohnny03;2157157]Been to Cambodia about 3 times and yet could not find one girl or place where they give solely blowjobs. Does Cambodian girls not like giving out blowjobs? Does anyone know a spot by any chance?[/QUOTE]Easy answer. Le Cyrcee. A lot of info on this bar in this forum. All girls will do BBBJs. Not all will do CIM. Surprised you couldn't find 1 girl to do BJs on your previous trips. Are you shy? At the other bars, you have to keep on asking. You have to ask all the necessary questions. BJ for 1 hour? CIM? Etc.

- I enjoy talking about the old days. IMO, the last year a foreigner could have gotten a cutie for $3 was around 2004. But you had to negotiate and get the local price. At that time, the price was $5 for a foreigner at K-11. The local price was 10,000 riel or $3. This was the time when the brothels on the main street had its door closed due to NGO / government pressures. You had to knock and they would let you in.

- I prefer Thailand's go-go bars, but Cambodia's hostess bars are a great change of pace. Cambodia is a little cheaper. Thailand is so much more raunchy. You have naked girls you can fondle. In Cambodia, the "worst" you have are girls in shorts that will dance on top of the bar.

- Talking abut the old days, remember when short time was 2 or 3 hours. In Thailand during the 90's and Cambodia in early part of this century, short time wasn't short. That was the draw of Thailand. Now it's an hour. Last year, I couldn't get a girl from Nana to accept 1.5 hours. She wanted extra. But not really complaining. It is still so much better than the US.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2157138]I agree with Uncle V about being clingy. There are girls who I haven't even seen for 2 years who are still messaging me and sending me photos. I'm assuming I overpaid them.[/QUOTE]I've also found the clingy thing. In my mind, if I have sex I've paid for, it should be clear that it was just a transaction for a service and not an indication of ongoing love. Still, I have the same issue of girls I've paid to sleep with constantly messaging me and hurt if I don't want to make the arrangement something more permanent. Needless to say, I made the mistake of sleeping with a couple of girls for free in my early days and that was a disaster.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2157138] PP is very limited so a 3 or 4 night stay is all you really need. Good food in PP around the RLD is also a struggle but a cheap tuk tuk ride to Street 302 or Street 360 can solve that.[/QUOTE]What Banana Boi says is true. As BB noted, PP's RLD iis a fairly small area. The area can be navigated on foot almost anywhere in about 20 minutes (ok, 30-40 minutes by me). Or, a tuk tuk will take you anywhere in this area for $1. I would define the boundaries of this RLD as Sisowath Quay (riverside) on the north, Street 104 on the west, Street 136 on the east and Street 51 (Pasteur) on the south. Most of the pussy palaces are on Streets 104,110, 130,136, and 5. I have only eaten at three places within this area: "Ohlala" on the corner of Street 136 and Sisowath Quay and "Ostro" a block away on the corner of 135 and 5. Ostro is open 24 hours. Both serve good western food and offer entertaining people watching. Both have a wide selection of grub available at reasonable prices. On the corner of Street 110 and Street 5 I would recommend "Larry's 110". There is a big sign outside with a "110" on it. (clever, eh?) Nice pub-type atmosphere and lots of choices of food at moderate prices. At all three places noted above, there are a lot of westerners and a few locals; Larry's has a large expat clientele. If you are "adventurous", maybe you'd like to sample Srey Mom or Srey Thida. LOL.

If you crave some good Mexican grub, I can recommend a couple of places outside of the RLD. Only about a $2 to $2.50 tuk tuk ride away. I really, really like Mexican food. The first is "Mexicano". Warning: I found the servings to be generous. I'd advise ordering a main item and waiting to see if you really want or need more. Mexicano is on Street 288 between Streets 57 and 63. The other is called Tacqueria Corona on the corner of Streets 51 and 254. It is owned by an American expat and managed by his Khmer wife. Both places are popular with expats, tourists and local Khmer.

All places noted above are moderately priced. I've added some links referencing the above for a quick look. Chow down!

Ohlala: [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d8329169-Reviews-Olala_Restaurant_and_Bar-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL].

Ostro: [URL]http://ostro.asia/[/URL].

Larry's: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/110-Street-Bar-Grill-551097138316269/?utm_source=tripadvisor&utm_medium=referral[/URL].

Mexicano: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/MexicanoCambodia/[/URL].

Tacqueria Corona: [URL]http://taqueriacoronaphnompenh.com/menu.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=DoowahDiddy;2153578]Hi guys,

As promised an update on PP:

GSM: Indeed completely torn down. Reconstruction is ongoing and from the pictures on the fence it looks like it will be nice. When? Nobody knows. Streets around are sleezy though, with a lot of drug hookers and ladyboys.

[/QUOTE]Hi DoowahDiddy.

Is the replacement going to be a new Bar complex?

Do you have a link to the "fence" site having pictures of the current GSM area?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2156971]Ok-so we have observers interjecting and calling pple out for overpaying and then quoting some mythical price of $3 from the best part of 20 years old? Somewhat puzzling and without doubt of no use to anyone at all.

20 years ago I could've purchased property in Melbourne AUS for 150 K which is now worth over a million dollars! Helpful huh?? If anyone wants to hear my stories of the cost of stuff from 20 years ago please PM me. LOL!

Anyways, back to PP in a month, looking forward to some fun times with reports to follow.

Cheers, DingoD.[/QUOTE]Post of the decade! Well said!

Say, how much was the cost of a round trip from Melbourne to Singapore back in 2000? Business class?

Just landed last night and decided to see how things have changed since I was here 2 years ago. To sum it up, it was a good night. Ran into a girl I met last year and she was more than happy to tell me how things have changed since I was here last, as well as what happened to the girls I took last time. All it took was a group photo to jog her memory. I did notice that there are alot more younger girls, 19-22 fresh from the provinces. As it still stands, I'm a handsome man here, so I was well received at the bars I visited.

I went to 104 and it took me only 2 bars to find a girl whom I sessioned with last time. Now 22, at first she didn't remember me so I played along, until our conversation started to feel like de ja vu to her. It was amusing to see the look on her face of "I've heard this before" several times. When she did finally remember, she spewed out all the things we did last time and was very happy to see me back. She even made me add her to my facebook. I barfined her and she delivered, BB was on the table, which it was not last time. Although it was only short time because she wanted to sleep at home (which she informed me at the bar), there was no limit to the number pops and I got my money's worth. Worked out well because I was still tired from my flight and I feel sorry for the girls that listen to me snore.

It is now the next morning that I write out this report, going to freshen up and look for breakfast.

[QUOTE=Sock111;2158446] When she did finally remember, she spewed out all the things we did last time and was very happy to see me back. .[/QUOTE]More importantly did she let you spew in her mouth. LOL Seriously though, was BBBJ on the menu?

THanks for the post. Good to see 104 is going strong. Love the girls at that bar. Some real hottie. Makes me want to be there so bad.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2157973]
If you crave some good Mexican grub, I can recommend a couple of places outside of the RLD. Only about a $2 to $2.50 tuk tuk ride away. I really, really like Mexican food. The first is "Mexicano". Warning: I found the servings to be generous. I'd advise ordering a main item and waiting to see if you really want or need more. Mexicano is on Street 288 between Streets 57 and 63. The other is called Tacqueria Corona on the corner of Streets 51 and 254. It is owned by an American expat and managed by his Khmer wife. Both places are popular with expats, tourists and local Khmer.

All places noted above are moderately priced. I've added some links referencing the above for a quick look. Chow down!

Ohlala: [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d8329169-Reviews-Olala_Restaurant_and_Bar-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL].

Ostro: [URL]http://ostro.asia/[/URL].

Larry's: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/110-Street-Bar-Grill-551097138316269/?utm_source=tripadvisor&utm_medium=referral[/URL].

Mexicano: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/MexicanoCambodia/[/URL].

Tacqueria Corona: [URL]http://taqueriacoronaphnompenh.com/menu.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Great list!

I'd also add Dot Grill on 144. They do all the local favorites BBQed on skewers. The Duck and Squid are particularly delicious. One of my and Banana Boi's favorites. I hope this gives them some more business.

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d7080949-Reviews-Dot_Grill-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL]

As uncle V says, Dot Grill is great. My favorite restaurant in the RLD hands down is the Riverhouse Bistro Restaurant at the corner of Street 1 and Street 110. First floor, not the Lounge upstairs. The 'Riverhouse Black Beef Blue' is delicious. For 24/7 food in the RLD the best option is likely the Mekong River Restaurant at the corner of Street 1 and Street 118. If you prefer Asian, there is the Noodle House on the corner of Street 130 and Street 5(?) across from Loco and beside Bluebird(?) bar. Not a ton of good options but hope this helps those who are hungry.

the best restaurant I've been to in Phnom Penh is Uraetei Japanese restaurant on Street 360 and Street 41. Be prepared to pay a Darling Darling LT rate for your dinner for 2. For a much cheaper Japanese option there is an ok Japanese AYCE named Yuzu right beside Uraetei or Marugame Udon at Street 302 and Street 63. These may seem far away but the tuk tuk ride through the Royal Palace and the Independence Monument makes it a worthwhile trip, especially if you've been trapped in the ghetto RLD more than 2 days.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2157046]After a couple of years of lurking here, this is my inaugural post on ISG. But I feel competent to address your inquiry.
There are 2 bars on 136 that are heavy with lady boys, some of which are as initially deceiving as some can be in BKK. Those two bars are the Butterfly bars across the street from each other. I haven't noticed any lady boys in the other hostess bars. But I haven't been in all of the bars. There are a couple of bars open 24 hours and feature different shifts of girls. Candy Bar is one of them.

5. The girls. I'm tough but I like to think I'm consistent and fair when rating gals. Average to me is a 5 on a 0-10 scale. I find the great majority of girls in the small bars in BKK and PP to be 5's. In the better BKK go-go joints, I see a lot of 6's and 7's; a very, very few 8's; can't recall a 9 or 10 LOL. In PP, my highest rated was a 7.5 In PP, many of the girls are "farm fresh"[/QUOTE]I guess at 45 I am not too old to have new idols. You are spot on in your report. I just want to add that there are plenty of lady boys in other places. Last month they were only in 1 of the Butterflies. I didn't look too close because there were so many, but I don't even think there were any women in there. (The other Butterfly had this young chick that was definitely mixed with White, but when I went back the next night to get her she was not there.) There were also several in Tiger Bar and Candy Bar. At Candy Bar there was one that appeared to be East African. I was curious as to where he was from but I did not ask because I didn't want him to get any ideas.

I stayed at Lux too. The only scantily clad chick I saw was a chick in Candy Bar that had on lingerie. She would go around to different guys at the bar doing her nasty dance. I think she was even on top of the bar at one point. I thought one guy was going to bar fine her the way they were making out. Next thing I knew she was over at my table dancing on me.

I also noticed one chick in there. The next day she was with one of my wingmen (there were 6 of us that all live in Pattaya). I thought he had gotten her from the bar, but he said he found her walking around. He gave her $40. One of my wingmen's son lives there so he had a van come pick us up the next day and take us around. We went to the other side of the river where they have built that new hotel. It is fucking nice on that side. When we got back to the Lux that chick came up to the van when we got out. I told her that it was my turn, but unlike my buddy I was only giving her $20. I fucked the dog shit out of her. She actually tried to go back to yum yum but I told her I wanted that pussy. She said your friend is nothing like you. He is too gentle with them and tries to cupcake them. When I finished with her, I told my buddy that he would not be seeing her around for a while. He did hit her again the next day before we left. He said he gave her $20 that time. I told him that he could not be living through the deals I make.

I also had the chick that I met on her motorbike outside of Pontoon. All the chicks that I was with started off with BBBJ without being asked and this chick didn't want to stop. I had to make her get to the main event. Also she kept sending me messages after I had left. I told her that I was gone and never coming back but she would still send messages. I finally had to block her.

Let me also add that it was the chicks at Rose Bar that lured us all in and would not discuss anything until we bought drinks. They didn't ask for drinks for themselves, just for us to buy for us. As soon as we ordered those drinks all of them went to the other side of the room never to be seen again!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2158536] the chicks at Rose Bar that lured us all in and would not discuss anything until we bought drinks. They didn't ask for drinks for themselves, just for us to buy for us. As soon as we ordered those drinks all of them went to the other side of the room never to be seen again![/QUOTE]Wow that's pretty bad. Imo Rose bar is so overrated.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2158560]Wow that's pretty bad. Imo Rose bar is so overrated.[/QUOTE]100% agree. For me 104, Top 10, and Airforce are the best bars on 104.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2158589]100% agree. For me 104, Top 10, and Airforce are the best bars on 104.[/QUOTE]Airforce adds drinks to your tab BTW. Just be careful there.

Well, second day didn't go too well, but not terrible. I decided to meet up with another girl I met left time but didn't get the chance to session. I had her friend at the bar contact on facebook and she agreed to come to the bar since she no longer worked there. I had a fun time catching up and buying many lady drinks for her and her friends, which I did not mind as long as I was entertained. Through some kind of miscommunication she didn't want to come back to my hotel with me, she gave me the excuse of being on the rag, but I think I'm just not her type of customer. So what I thought was going to be a great night ended up being lonely as I went bar hopping after that. I gave her taxi money for her time and bid her farewell, and won't be bothering with her again.

Now for the reason I ended up alone. For research purposes I went to several more bars to check out the scene. After initially reporting a lot of younger girls have started working, which is still true, their inexperience and lack of enthusiasm is very apparent. I spoke with many, and most were their for the salary, rarely getting taken out. Most answered honestly and said that they did not enjoy working in the bar, they did it for the money to send back home. Since I feel old and look more for GFE than quantity, I decided to just save my shots for the next day.

Fortunately the girl I met up with the first day was more than happy to meet up after I messaged her on facebook. I learned an interesting thing, the khmer written language sucks, so everyone just sends voice messages in khmer, or short common English phrases. Never paid much attention until I had to do it myself. Learn something new everyday.

[QUOTE=Sock111;2158899] I learned an interesting thing, the khmer written language sucks, so everyone just sends voice messages in khmer, or short common English phrases. Never paid much attention until I had to do it myself. Learn something new everyday.[/QUOTE]Actually, the written Thai language doesn't suck. I have a lot of Khmer friends who message in Khmer (and English). They have no problems at all of which I am aware in communicating in Khmer. I'm completely illiterate in Khmer. I was taken back when I was trying to conduct a pre-employment interview with a chick in a bar. Her English was as limited as my Khmer. Basically, zilch. She pulled out her iPhone--probably 3rd or 4th hand and 5 years old. She punched something in the Khmer language and it translated wonderfully. I replied in English and she understood completely. I have no idea what app she was using. I should have found out. Now I'm thinking of trying to get a similar app for my Samsung (Android).

[QUOTE=DingoD;2156779]Been coming to Cambodia for 11 years, approx 18 trips in that time and never has the prices I've been exposed to since 2007 even been within 75% of this $3 stunner rate??

Absolute garbage OR are we referring to late 80's / early 90's??

If so, what if any purpose does talking about prices 25+ years ago serve, assuming that they even once existed!

$3!! Hahahaha-you are a wonderful comedian![/QUOTE]To Dingo.

The first time in PP is back in 2000 cheapest st from a low end brothel in town is 5 usd a white skin Viet girl, I have heard about K11 girl are as cheap as 3 usd back in the days but I never went there heard all girl are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903][CodeWord903][/url], but now days is not many white skin Viet and girls price are 6 time more expensive and quality is poor.

Fast Eddie 48.

I'll be in PP for some hours business trip. Going to fly in during late evening and should be ready to go out after midnight. Going to stay somewhere around the independence monument.

What would be the best opportunities to get a girl after midnight? I prefer 18-22 age range, slim body, nice attitude. Can be either ST in my hotel or some kind of massage parlour. Don't want to walk around and drink all night long, because I have business meetings the next day. Something easy and convenient would be good.

Last time I been to PP is already 6 years ago so I believe the scene changed quite a bit. That time, I pulled a girl from one of the bars and she turned out to be a Disaster. A girl from Heart of Darkness / Pontoon turned out great.

I moved this from Siem reap forum for lack of response. I will be in Cambodia In June and was wondering what my best option for foot fetish activities would be? Freelancers, bar girls, massage salons. Also If anyone had any experiences with this, info would be appreciated. I've been to Thailand and most providers had experience with foot jobs and foot fetishes in general, never been to Cambodia so was wondering.

[QUOTE=Amnesia;2159390]I'll be in PP for some hours business trip. Going to fly in during late evening and should be ready to go out after midnight. Going to stay somewhere around the independence monument.

What would be the best opportunities to get a girl after midnight? I prefer 18-22 age range, slim body, nice attitude. Can be either ST in my hotel or some kind of massage parlour. Don't want to walk around and drink all night long, because I have business meetings the next day. Something easy and convenient would be good.[/QUOTE]You might want to consider Soul KTV and Massage. AKA Soul Restaurant and KTV. It's in the area you are talking about. Has some very nice offerings and the price point isn't too bad. Full service was on the menu last visit. It's mostly a 4-story brothel. LOL.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2159722]You might want to consider Soul KTV and Massage. AKA Soul Restaurant and KTV. It's in the area you are talking about. Has some very nice offerings and the price point isn't too bad. Full service was on the menu last visit. It's mostly a 4-story brothel. LOL.[/QUOTE]To Sam.

Is this the soul gold Korean KTV my friend went there last yr by himself girls very pushy for drink in 2 HR he got a 50 usd bar bill, he told me he only have a few beer the girl did most of the drinking yes girl are available for take out most taxi driver like to take you there and get a big cut but girl there are hot but expensive.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2160158]To Sam.

Is this the soul gold Korean KTV my friend went there last yr by himself girls very pushy for drink in 2 HR he got a 50 usd bar bill, he told me he only have a few beer the girl did most of the drinking yes girl are available for take out most taxi driver like to take you there and get a big cut but girl there are hot but expensive.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]I don't know if it is the same place or not, to be honest. It is possible, but my experience was not quite the same. I went with my Khmer girl friend's brother. He had taken a massage gal to a room upstairs on a previous visit. He showed me a photo he had taken. Looked very nice. I think he said he paid $40 all in. He isn't a rich guy. When we went to the KTV, we had 2 girls sit with us. Easy 7's. English challenged for sure. They shared our beers pulled from a bucket. So no lady drinks involved or pushiness from these two. No trying to up-sell food, etc. That said, except for the eye candy, I decided KTV is not my cup of tea. A farang friend says "I don't see the point of paying some chick to eat my food or drink my beer". LOL I think the payment to the lady is $10/ hour, room charge was $10/ hour (nice room); mamasan $5/ hour; beers about $1.50 each. I just remember that it was kind of like getting a $50 handshake. LOL The gal with me slipped me her cell number with a name for future contact. (I never did call her). Basically, my experience was it was a good place to get horny before going "bottom feeding". Kind of like going to a good go go in BKK and then pulling from the street. LOL.

[QUOTE=Damone123;2159557]I moved this from Siem reap forum for lack of response. I will be in Cambodia In June and was wondering what my best option for foot fetish activities would be? [/QUOTE]I've heard of "foot fetishes", but don't know what they are. I guess that means I can't help you. But maybe you can describe for those desiring enlightenment.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2159722]You might want to consider Soul KTV and Massage. AKA Soul Restaurant and KTV. It's in the area you are talking about. Has some very nice offerings and the price point isn't too bad. Full service was on the menu last visit. It's mostly a 4-story brothel. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Can you provide more information, especially Modus operandi and pricing?

And can anyone recommend a few hostess bars that I should visit? There seem to be so many these days, and I really want to optimize time.

[QUOTE=Amnesia;2160286]Thanks! Can you provide more information, especially Modus operandi and pricing?

And can anyone recommend a few hostess bars that I should visit? There seem to be so many these days, and I really want to optimize time.[/QUOTE]I can't provide any more info about Soul than I already did. I didn't go for a massage and didn't inquire about "take out" from the KTV. The Red Light District as far as hostess bars. I defined my personal description a few days earlier: Streets 104-136; the first 2 blocks starting from Sisowath Quay (riverside). Everybody has their own preference or favorite bar. I pretty-much limit my itinerary to Street 136; my home bar, if I have one, is Candy Bar. 136 Corner Bar (across the street) is another I have enjoyed. I suggest you query YouTube. For example: "Candy Bar Phnom Penh". There are a lot of videos for both bars and others. Of course, 99% of the girls working at a bar when these videos were made are probably working at different bars or are retired. The RDL isn't really too far from the Independence Monument area. Depending on time of day, maybe a 10 minute tuk tuk ride. Figure $2-$3 for a tuk tuk depending on your negotiating skills PP is a lot smaller than BKK. To get you started on researching, here are a couple of links:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlYD-NDFZ8A[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo9fOxjsDhA[/URL]

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2160518]I can't provide any more info about Soul than I already did. I didn't go for a massage and didn't inquire about "take out" from the KTV.[/QUOTE]I didn't necessarily mean for take out. You recommended this place as a kind of brother with some nice offerings and FS on the menu. So I was just curious about how it works. Did you just go there, picked a girl, and took her to one of the rooms? What was the pricing like? Just asking because I've never been to a KTV, and I don't want to sit and sing with a girl LOL.

Also, how was the performance? I've been to places in Phnom Penh and it was often quite a mechanical deadfish performance with lots of "not this" and "not here".

[QUOTE=Amnesia;2161112] So I was just curious about how it works. Did you just go there, picked a girl, and took her to one of the rooms? What was the pricing like? Just asking because I've never been to a KTV, and I don't want to sit and sing with a girl LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know how it works in this KTV because neither my friend nor I pursued taking a girl out of the KTV part of Soul. My friend did pull from the 5th floor massage. He says it's a fishbowl arrangement; pick a girl; he paid $7 for the room; negotiated "about $50" for full service (blow job and a fuck). He said his particular girl wasn't very "skillful". He says $50 was the going rate at the time (about 2 years ago). The room looked small, but like a nice hotel room. The gal had a nice body, but I couldn't see her face in the photo well. Knowing my friend, she would have had to be at least a 7 in the face.

We went to another place that was basically a brothel advertised as a hotel, KTV. It was busy with a lot of Asian customers. We got there kind of late, so I'm hoping that the "good" talent had already been kept busy, as the available chicks were certainly less than that needed to get me an erection. Prices for KTV room and drinks were cheaper than Soul, but we chose not to stay after seeing the lineup. I ran across this place while doing a bit of internet research. A review on Trip Advisor made it sound like a great place to book. Ha ha ha [URL]http://chea-rithy-heng-hotel-k-t-v-phnom-penh.phnompenhbesthotels.com/en/[/URL] [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293940-d3223513-Reviews-Chea_Rithy_Heng_Hotel_KTV-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL].

As I often do prior to a trip across the Pacific to Asia, I do a bit of recon. This includes checking boards such as ISG for current info, surveying YouTube videos, and corresponding with guys I know who have boots on the ground or who have made recent visits.

While checking out one of many YouTube videos, one caught my eye. At first blink, it seemed to resemble those "fashion shows" for which Yangon is famous. Check out the link here before reading on. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFQxeL4NRo[/URL].

My usual sources were unable to provide me with any help in identifying the venue or confirming that my instincts were correct. After a few weeks, I turned to my Khmer girlfriend's brother for help. (he's single, a part time monger, and knows Phnom Penh.) he advised that he had no firsthand knowledge of the place, but one of his associates, had, indeed been there. His associate reported that he "pulled" a chick for $40 short time. The associate is Khmer, and my source did not know if the girls would be eager to go with a farang that they did not know. The name of the place is New Night World. It is located very, very close to the Chinese embassy.

Within the first couple of nights of my next visit to PP, I was accompanied by two of my girl friend's brothers to New Night World. The interior of the place is basically laid out like a dinner theatre. There is seating for several hundred guests. But this was a Sunday night and there were only about 70-80 (mostly small groups of Asian guys) sitting around tables. Some of the guys had obvious "hostesses" sitting with them. The three of us basically could sit anywhere we wanted. Though food was available, we only ordered beers which were relatively inexpensive. As I recall $1.50-$2. We were asked if we would like any female company, but we declined at the time, wanting to get an idea of what might be available. (The Khmer speaking person who escorted us to a table said that there were a few ladies who spoke a little bit of English.) We had observed a large number of nicely dressed and very attractive damsels sitting near the entrance, but it was at least 30 minutes before any of them made their way to the stage as backups to a couple of singers.

Turned out that the entertainment heavily featured some serious singers, as well as the "comedy" routines enjoyed by Thais in Tawan Daeng venues in BKK. It isn't a mongering destination primarily, as the local Khmers take their families and mixed groups there for parties and normal dinner dates.

I'the just gotten a new mobile phone that day and was anxious to give the video feature a tryout. Here is a very short 15-second video I made. I posted it on YouTube just for this report. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEdZy9y1X6Q[/URL].

I might mention that the "star" of the group (in my opinion) was the rather buxom beauty at the front in a red dress. I was considering have her sit with us ("sitting fee" unknown), but she was already committed to another table. The waitress who kept pouring beer into our glasses and keeping ice in them was really cute and friendly (and had a nice body). To say that she was English-challenged would be accurate, but she did try. I got the impression she wasn't on the game and I wasn't either-- that night. My married girlfriend was due to visit my room the next morning and I needed to conserve my "precious bodily fluids".

My overall impression is that the New Night World is primarily a Khmer venue (I was the only farang in the place). I would probably consider it a hybrid of the so-called "fashion shows" in Yangon and the Thai variety shows in Bangkok. IF most of the gals are "on the game" (not at all confirmed), they are collectively quite fuckable in terms of looks. And, if $40 is the price for short time, I saw many I would rent.

New Night World has a Facebook page which describes it as "beer garden adult entertainment service".

Have done some background research and RTFF. In my previous destinations, Bangkok, Bali, KL, Pattaya, Phuket, Cebu, Manila etc it was safe to walk around esp at night.

It appears due to spread of bars and safety aspect that tuk tuk door to door is better option.

So does it really matter (within reason) where hotel is, seeing there and back should be by tuk tuk.

Looking at either around Central market or Riverside.

LE Grand Palais looks good as close to Crycee but no pool and a little down market.

Am a FL type of guy so disco ala Pontoon and bars are my hangout.

Require decent size room, Western bfast, pool, quiet at night, 60 - 80 US. Any ideas or just point me into general area I should stay.

Okay Boutique has good reports?

Appreciate.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2162647]Have done some background research and RTFF. In my previous destinations, Bangkok, Bali, KL, Pattaya, Phuket, Cebu, Manila etc it was safe to walk around esp at night.

It appears due to spread of bars and safety aspect that tuk tuk door to door is better option.

So does it really matter (within reason) where hotel is, seeing there and back should be by tuk tuk.[/QUOTE]If you thought Manila was safe to walk around during the night (I thought Ermita was sketchy), then Phnom Penh will be safe per your standards. IMO, Phnom Penh is more safe than Manila. Last year, there was only 1 murder of a foreigner (and that was an inside job).

If you do the tuk tuk option, then it doesn't matter where your hotel is.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2162647]Am a FL type of guy so disco ala Pontoon and bars are my hangout.

Require decent size room, Western bfast, pool, quiet at night, 60 - 80 US. Any ideas or just point me into general area I should stay.[/QUOTE]There's a few new hotels around Street 51 (near Pontoon). I would be cautious of the potential noise.

I usually stay at the Lux Riverside Hotel on Street 136. For the Superior King you get a large comfortable room, very quiet since the window faces the inside courtyard, with good buffet breakfast for $50. But it has no pool.

You can check out some other hotels to get the pool option: [URL]http://www.canbypublications.com/phnompenh/phnom-penh-hotel-price.htm[/URL].

Anyone know if the Palace Gate Hotel & Resort is GF? Last time I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel and altho nice and in middle of the RL district they charge you 10 Usd every time you bring someone in. The money isn't so much a issue but the policy is so odd for the kind of place and location so I'm up for a change.

You often hear of places in PP but they never actually true. Any BJ Bars in PP these days?

[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;2163287]Anyone know if the Palace Gate Hotel & Resort is GF? Last time I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel and altho nice and in middle of the RL district they charge you 10 Usd every time you bring someone in. The money isn't so much a issue but the policy is so odd for the kind of place and location so I'm up for a change.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've read that Sun and Moon charges extra. As for the Palace Gate, I suggest that you email the place and ask them directly. If I'm in town and considering booking a new place, I call and ask.

In my mind, there are two kinds of "guest friendly" policies: that which allows you to bring a guest without charge and that which charges for a guest (even if you've booked a double room). Like you, I avoid those that charge extra. Too many places that don't charge extra. (I don't mind a hotel requiring the guest to leave an ID or show ID upon arrival. The Lux on Str. 136 is in that category. That is, no extra charge, but must leave ID).

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2165822]Yeah, I've read that Sun and Moon charges extra. As for the Palace Gate, I suggest that you email the place and ask them directly. If I'm in town and considering booking a new place, I call and ask.
In my mind, there are two kinds of "guest friendly" policies: that which allows you to bring a guest without charge and that which charges for a guest (even if you've booked a double room). Like you, I avoid those that charge extra. Too many places that don't charge extra. (I don't mind a hotel requiring the guest to leave an ID or show ID upon arrival. The Lux on Str. 136 is in that category. That is, no extra charge, but must leave ID).[/QUOTE]Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2166169]Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?[/QUOTE]It was quiet enough for me. I had a king suite in the back. Maybe 318 or something. Breakfast sucked to me. A big complaint I had was there wasn't much light in the room. They did bring me an extra lamp though. And those mosquitos in the room ate me alive.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2166169]Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]The apartments there are very old and outdated. The kitchen I had was covered with baked on grease and not a kitchen you want to cook in. Get the normal room or the king suite.

You are literally 20 feet from the bars on street 136.

Breakfast isn't special but good enough if you want some bacon and eggs.

Noise is not a factor in pp. It's not like Thailand.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2166169]Hey Sam thanks for your reports The Lux is it quiet at night? Has a good breakfast? Walking to bars ok or tuk tuk recommended. I suppose best choice is 1 bedroom apartment due to balcony?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I have exclusively booked Room 168. It is on the top floor on the back side. I'm sure that all rooms on the back are quiet, as the street activity isn't deafening even if you are standing in front outside. Room 168 has a very big balcony which has room probably for 10 people. LOL Also, a walk-in shower big enough for two (insert a thumbs up here). The entire room was spotless. I don't know from personal experience about the quality of the breakfast, as I don't get up early enough to try it. LOL As you can read from other responses, the breakfast is food. Whether you like it or not, is another story. I've read that others have not been particularly impressed with the selection or quality, but it may have improved since those reports were published. As noted, the bars start across from the front door of the hotel. Couldn't be more convenient unless they started in the lobby. Also, a number of places to get good food within 200 yards. I make my reservations directly with the hotel. "Srey Mom" handles the reservations and is very quick in answering or responding to emails. And she writes and speaks English pretty well. (I think she is a shift manager for the hotel).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2166176]Breakfast sucked to me.[/QUOTE]I could see that. But that breakfast buffet is above average for what you get from the hotels costing $30 - $60 in Southeast Asia. Although that's not saying much. A good point is that the kitchen never runs out of bacon. In other places in Southeast Asia, I've come to breakfast late, and they run out of bacon, and all they say is, "sorry". But they have lousy coffee and juices.

I like that breakfast buffet because that's where I load up on my veggies / salad for my diet requirements.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2166176]And those mosquitos in the room ate me alive.[/QUOTE]You could have asked them to spray your room. But I hate to do that. And I also hate to put on deet.

What I do every time I check into a room in Southeast Asia is to go mosquito hunting. Since my hand speed is slow, I also will offer a $1 or $2 bounty for every mosquito my girls catch and kill.

[QUOTE=Sam Sanuk;2166362]I make my reservations directly with the hotel. "Srey Mom" handles the reservations and is quick in answering or responding to emails. And she writes and speaks English pretty well. (I think she is a shift manager for the hotel).[/QUOTE]

Srey Mon is efficient. It was $50 for the King Superior. No need for credit card to reserve. After check-in, you can leave and cancel anytime without fee.

But if you reserved on Agoda.com and prepay, then the room (last year) was $1 or $2 cheaper. Plus you get Agoda and credit card points.

What I did was to reserve it with Srey Mon, and then after I get there and spend a night, I cancel and reserve the rest of the stay with Agoda (assuming Agoda has that particular room available).

[QUOTE=PincheGringo;2165709]You often hear of places in PP but they never actually true. Any BJ Bars in PP these days?[/QUOTE]I don't hear of BJ bars these days. In the old days, ya.

The government wants to be conservative. There are no BJ bars, no go-go bars, no bars with short time rooms, no bars that are naughty.

That being said, you can get BJs at some of the places. You probably can get a BJ at a K-TV, but I don't do those.

You can also get a BJ at bars that has a salon or a karaoke room.

[QUOTE=PincheGringo;2165709]You often hear of places in PP but they never actually true. Any BJ Bars in PP these days?[/QUOTE]I went to one called Sophie's somewhere between 2008-2010. It very much was a BJ bar in exactly the way you'd imagine one to be in Phnom Penh. Beer was $2. Every woman gave me a $1 sample and the one I chose cost me maybe $5 or so. Real down and dirty shit. It was awesome.

I have just returned after a week of fun in PP. I was on ground from 30 Apr to 06 May. This report will be my third on PP and not much has changed since.

Hotel.

I stayed at The Lux Riverside, where I had booked a 1 bedroom apartment. $50 per night, not bad. As others have pointed out, this is a pretty basic apartment room, but it is very spacious. One can easily entertain around 6 guests at a time. Comes reasonably well appointed, with plates, bowls, dishes, cutlery, etc. The gas oven in my room was not as bad as BB describes, but I am not going there to cook, so I did not bother much about its working condition. The fridge is a nice big one, and can easily accommodate a full week's supply of water and beer. The only gripe I have of the living room area is the air-conditioning. It takes forever to cool down, and the 96 degree afternoons did not help much. The bedroom is very good in my opinion and the A/C is great. But I would like more than just 2 pillows and I prefer the benefits offered by blackout curtains for a late morning in bed. The breakfast was a bit disappointing. The hotel does not have its own kitchen for room service, but they will bring you a menu from the Olala Restaurant next door where the food is good, but on the slightly expensive side. No pool. I had trouble with the electronic locking system on my door that took nearly half a day to fix, but that can happen anywhere.

Overall verdict. Not as fancy and plush as The Quay Boutique Hotel, which IMHO is the best hotel one can find under $100. Lux might perhaps be comparable to Ohana Phnom Penh on St 148 which has a small pool and an impressive breakfast spread on the rooftop. The Bougainvillier is actually the closest comparison from a price point, but the rooms there are nicer, specially the Superior Suite. But at the price point Lux operates at it is hard to find faults. The big draw of Lux is that it is right on the strip, an advantage that no other hotel offers at that price range and quality standard. On my subsequent visits I might try the Riverside Suites which was getting renovated on this trip.

Food.

I absolutely ADORE Asian food, so I am never too far away from a good meal in PP. In general theory as one walks away west from the riverside, the prices get cheaper and crowds more local. One notable mention is a Chinese restaurant called Herk Fung which is at the western end of 136 (after Central Market) where it intersects with Street 93. There is a great Thai restaurant too a couple of doors down on the opposite side. The other place that became a mainstay for dinner is Oyster Restaurant at the intersection of Street 154 and Street 49. The BBQ seafood there is simply mindblowing. Also, the Fish Amok at Olala Restaturant is well worth its price although I do believe there is scope for a better portion size, given the price they charge.

I get all my consumables and supplies at the market on Street 13, mainly because of the pricing. For instance a 6 pack of 2 litre water bottles cost around $2. Buy this at any convenience store and that will cost you $0. 80 a bottle. You do the math. And I drink a lot of water. Likewise for beer, cigarettes, instant coffee, ice, snacks and other supplies. The only effort involved is in carrying it all back to the room in the sweltering heat.

Raison d'Etre.

My pickings on this trip were all mostly from bars around the main RLD drags with the odd treat from Darlin Darlin. A 10 bar summary in the order for best to worst IMHO:

1. Rose Bar. Located on Street 104, this place was a revelation to me. On previous trips I have not found atmosphere, quality, quantity or attitude here, but this trip was a turnaround. All boxes were ticked. Plenty of cute young girls, willing to barfine and delivering the promise made. My best performer on this trip was from Rose.

2. One Three Six. Funnily, this bar is located on Street 130 right across The Noodle House restaurant. They have a live band play 3 nights a week and the bar is always buzzing. Some really good girls in here, watch out for a few sharks. One incredibly hot chick I got a couple of drinks for turned out to be a virgin who did not go out with customers. I tried cross referencing this with 3 different girls at the same bar and they all said the same thing. Maybe true, guess I will never know. But in the future, when she is broken in I will try and make sure I sample her goods.

3. Angry Birds. Located on Street 130, this bar has few girls but the are all pretty fun. I got a very cute 5" tall spinner with a dazzling smile and superb tight body from here. She spoke practically no English, but Google came to my rescue. Plus asking for pussy does not need much language skills.

4. Corner Bar. Big bar, very good music and a fantastic place IF you want to party and have fun at the bar. Plenty of cute young doable chicks, but most of them are sharky and they clearly have a preference for Asian customers. They have a couple of dancers who are insanely hot and one of them will let you do anything to her over a few drinks and in between her dance routines. I had my fingers up her twat, face between her ass cheeks and hands inside her bikini top right there in the middle, at the table next to the raised dancing enclosure. I am not sure she is available to take out. She did not even shake my hand before I agreed to buy her a drink and when the drink arrived she sipped off nearly nearly three quarters of it before telling me "Why you so Hansum?" But it is a fun place and if you got the cash you can have a real ball here.

5. 69 Bar. This one is on Street 136 right across from Lux. Lots of promise, low on delivery. Needs some serious working on quality of girls. But there is the odd gem to be found in this bar.

6. Intoxica. Street 130 next to Angry Birds. I dunno what the fuck is wrong with this bar. One night they have a ton of chicks and the next day they are swatting flies in the bar. The bar has a weird odour inside and I did not stay for long.

7. Airforce. On Street 104, at the west end of the strip, this bar has promise but the mamasan makes it really hard for you to make conversation with a girl of your choice.

8. Honeypot. Again on Street 130, this has all the makings of a great bar. Some really cute girls outside reeling the customers in. Cheap drinks inside. Good aircon and and general clean feel. Decent music. And then the dogs take over inside. The girl for who you came inside is back out luring the next fool in.

9. Star Bar. This is a tiny bar tucked in the street connecting 136 and 130, just next to Mme Butterfly. I wonder why they are still in business. The Fish and Chips seller on the opposite side of the road seems to be more enthusiastic. My bad.

10. Loco Bar. And the worst bar for me on this trip is unequivocally Loco Bar. Things are wrong at multiple levels here. The owner / manager runs the place with a tight fist and this attitude will ensure the fate of this bar is sealed quickly. So, as you walk inside you will be greeted by this musty atmosphere, because the aircon is shut and the fans are wobbling about. Girls are not enthusiastic. It seems one has to buy a girl at least 3 drinks before you can barfine her. And on weekends no barfine can be accepted before 1 am. Might as well hit the bloke over his head and steal his cash, right?

So there we are. I did weave through a dozen more bars or so, but none are worth a mention. I also walked in and straight out of a few others. For those who are looking for a good time the above list should provide reasonable direction.

I also hit Darlin Darlin on a couple of nights and got myself a rental from there on one night. I know guys will say I took sand to the beach, but from DD we went to Pontoon to shake a leg before we called it a night. She was great in bed and stayed till 10 am next morning without a whimper and had no complaints when I handed her $120. This pick was on impulse and there was something about this girl I found strangely intriguing. Otherwise, while the quality of chicks at DD is head and shoulders above any other place in Phnom Penh, I find it hard to justify the asking prices to myself.

Apart from this all other picks were from bars and I paid $40 for ST and never more than $80 for LT, including tips. Only one exceptional performer got a big upgrade and I paid her $100.

Side Trip.

I took a day trip to Kep Beach and that was pretty good fun. $100 for the transport. The food at the Crab Market is great, but all said and done it is a long trip for one meal, making it a ridiculously expensive one. To top it all, my driver appeared to be on steroids and was driving like an F1 driver.

I am back in SG today and I am already thinking about the next trip. And my phone is still blowing up with messages from chicks I have met over the past few days. Paradise.

Thanks for detailed report I will try the food places next time I am there.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2176669] She was great in bed and stayed till 10 am next morning without a whimper and had no complaints when I handed her $120..[/QUOTE]How can a Khmer girl complain when you hand her over 2 months salary? Just F. G ridiculous.

[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;2163287]Anyone know if the Palace Gate Hotel & Resort is GF? Last time I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel and altho nice and in middle of the RL district they charge you 10 Usd every time you bring someone in. The money isn't so much a issue but the policy is so odd for the kind of place and location so I'm up for a change.[/QUOTE]I've never had to pay extra at the Sun & Moon for a guest. As I always book a room there for 2 persons. I'm assuming you booked a single?

In fact I was there 4/25-4/30 with two of my buddies - 3 rooms for double occupancy. They just asked for the girl's ID and other info.

I do walk down with the girl to make sure she gets her ID back (someone told me that the guys will ask the girls for a kickback) and they don't have to call my room. Am booking them again on my next visit.

[QUOTE=BobMorane69;2176993]How can a Khmer girl complain when you hand her over 2 months salary? Just F. G ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Because the last guy handed over 3 months salary to her!

Haha! Blanky, don't sweat the haters my friend! Living well is the best revenge and it sounds like you guys sure did your fare share this trip!

Great report and full of very useful intel. I just have a couple of questions.

Do you find it is getting easier to find BJs in PP? Seemed kind of tough to find in the past. Especially form the new farm fresh girls. Is this changing?

You did not mention 104 bar or Sweet Lemon bar (right across form Lux hotel). Both of these have been good to me in the past (especially 104). Any news on these places?

Your report really whetted my appetite for PP. Perhaps we can coordinate a trip next time ?

Standing by in sultry Havana.

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=Tryntry;2177303]I've never had to pay extra at the Sun & Moon for a guest. As I always book a room there for 2 persons. I'm assuming you booked a single?

In fact I was there 4/25-4/30 with two of my buddies - 3 rooms for double occupancy. They just asked for the girl's ID and other info.

I do walk down with the girl to make sure she gets her ID back (someone told me that the guys will ask the girls for a kickback) and they don't have to call my room. Am booking them again on my next visit.[/QUOTE]That's because the Sun & Moon charges extra $10 for double occupancy, or at least that was my experience.

If you pay single you'll pay $10 less per room per night, so if you don't bring a guest to your room every single day, that's a better deal, IMHO. Other than that, they'll part you with $10 one way or another.

Still highly recommend the place -- the rooftop pool alone is worth the price of admission. Pure heaven!

For the record I have lived in Cambodia for 8 years and had a restaurant for 5 so I know a little bit about prices and salaries. $120 a month is about right for a sit on your ass no talent required job, like most girls employed in bars. So yes, the posts about 2 or 3 months salary are erroneous. That said $120 for any girl in Cambodia is over the top and I am not surprised some guys are saying so.

No one hates a person for overpaying (at least I don't) but it is not just ridiculous, it spoils the girls and ensures that ridiculous prices will head to ludicrous!

SE.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2176669]I have just returned after a week of fun in PP. I was on ground from 30 Apr to 06 May. This report will be my third on PP and not much has changed since.[/QUOTE]Nice report! Sounds like you had a good trip without breaking the bank.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2177376]Haha! Blanky, don't sweat the haters my friend! Living well is the best revenge and it sounds like you guys sure did your fare share this trip!

Great report and full of very useful intel. I just have a couple of questions.

Do you find it is getting easier to find BJs in PP? Seemed kind of tough to find in the past. Especially form the new farm fresh girls. Is this changing?

You did not mention 104 bar or Sweet Lemon bar (right across form Lux hotel). Both of these have been good to me in the past (especially 104). Any news on these places?

Your report really whetted my appetite for PP. Perhaps we can coordinate a trip next time ?

Standing by in sultry Havana.

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Hey UV, have a cigar on me, I am told the best ones are rolled by nubile young girls against their inner thighs. Yummy!

To address your questions -.

1. No, getting a BBBJ was not hard for me. Every chick I picked did Yum Yum without much hassle. One girl was reluctant but eventually came good. Some were weaker than others though and had to be coached actively. One girl absolutely refused to do a 69 but was OK for me to eat her pussy while she lay eagle-spread. Strange, no?

2. I did not venture into Sweet Lemon, so I really do not know. As for OneZeroFour that bar has absolutely gone down the tube. The mamasan has changed, the girls are new but awful. It was my first stop in Street 104, given how good it was on my previous visits. I remember taking an amazing three holer from there. SAdly, things have changed for the worse.

Yea, we should coordinate a trip. Good luck mate.

[blue]Don't ever post the contents of a PM, that's why they are called PRIVATE messages. If there is an issue you contact me.

A3[/blue]

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2177597]Hey UV, have a cigar on me, I am told the best ones are rolled by nubile young girls against their inner thighs. Yummy!

[/QUOTE]Yeah. I am having a good time rolling my cigar between some honey colored cubanita thighs! LOL.

Thanks for answering my questions. Sad about 104. But from your report it sounds like a few of the other bars have really picked up.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2177440]For the record I have lived in Cambodia for 8 years and had a restaurant for 5 so I know a little bit about prices and salaries. $120 a month is about right for a sit on your ass no talent required job, like most girls employed in bars. So yes, the posts about 2 or 3 months salary are erroneous. That said $120 for any girl in Cambodia is over the top and I am not surprised some guys are saying so.

No one hates a person for overpaying (at least I don't) but it is not just ridiculous, it spoils the girls and ensures that ridiculous prices will head to ludicrous!

SE.[/QUOTE]100 USD plus has been the norm at Darling Daling for a few years now. I remember first hearing about at least back in 2014 or even 2013 when I first read about it in one of Natty Bumpos excellent TRs. Confirmed several times during my trips there.

Anyone that knows a little about the scene in PP should know that.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2177440]For the record I have lived in Cambodia for 8 years and had a restaurant for 5 so I know a little bit about prices and salaries. $120 a month is about right for a sit on your ass no talent required job, like most girls employed in bars. So yes, the posts about 2 or 3 months salary are erroneous. That said $120 for any girl in Cambodia is over the top and I am not surprised some guys are saying so.

No one hates a person for overpaying (at least I don't) but it is not just ridiculous, it spoils the girls and ensures that ridiculous prices will head to ludicrous!

SE.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the feedback. I have mentioned in my report that all my ST were $40 and LT around $80 maximum, barring one girl who I gave $100 to. These girls were all from bars along 136,130 and 104.

The girl I paid $120 to was from Darlin Darlin where the norm has been $100 for ST, sometime with just one pop. This girl stayed with me for nearly 10 hours which is considered LT and the starting point for a LT discussion with a DD girl is usually $200.

One should go there and talk to the chicks themselves before shooting off the hip like BM69 did. You may not agree with their price and walk away abusing mongers who pay that price. Or you could be a hard negotiator like Mr E and beat her down to $50. Or you could pay the price as a tourist who does not care what he spends as long as he is having a good time.

The other point is if you live in Cambodia then you have several advantages over being a tourist. You are better informed of market dynamics, you possibly know the language and you might even have a few hot chicks on speed dial. When you are visitor you have little time to waste and want to make the most of the available opportunities within a rough budget. And this is what I did.

Finally, a few of us here not paying $100 to a DD girl won't bring down the prices. Nor will my paying $120 raise it overnight.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2177597]1. No, getting a BBBJ was not hard for me. Every chick I picked did Yum Yum without much hassle. One girl was reluctant but eventually came good. Some were weaker than others..
2. I did not venture into Sweet Lemon, so I really do not know. As for OneZeroFour that bar has absolutely gone down the tube. The mamasan has changed, the girls are new but awful. It was my first stop in Street 104, given how good it was on my previous visits. I remember taking an amazing three holer from there. SAdly, things have changed for the worse.[/QUOTE]Likewise, I've never had a problem getting a BBBJ. Part of that is because I conduct pre-employment interviews. But during the interview process, it has always been confirmed. Was a time when Khmer working girls were problematic when wanting a BJ. Kind of like BKK in the 70's and early 80's. Now, it seems that they'd almost rather suck than fuck. LOL As for technique and experience, just remember, "there is no such thing as a bad blow job; some are just better than others". Also worth noting, most of the time the gals have been ready to mount bareback rather quickly. I keep a condom handy on the table next to the bed for a quick response.

As for the rosters of the bars, changes in the lline-ups can happen from night to night. A few might leave for another bar and some new ones (from another bar?) will take their place. I haven't been in PP in 8 months. I doubt if half of the damsels are still employed in the same bars. Doesn't matter to me. Go inside. Look around. Turn around and walk out if nothing pulls your heart strings. LOL.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2177960]Likewise, I've never had a problem getting a BBBJ. Part of that is because I conduct pre-employment interviews. But during the interview process, it has always been confirmed. Was a time when Khmer working girls were problematic when wanting a BJ. Kind of like BKK in the 70's and early 80's. Now, it seems that they'd almost rather suck than fuck. LOL As for technique and experience, just remember, "there is no such thing as a bad blow job; some are just better than others". Also worth noting, most of the time the gals have been ready to mount bareback rather quickly. I keep a condom handy on the table next to the bed for a quick response.

As for the rosters of the bars, changes in the lline-ups can happen from night to night. A few might leave for another bar and some new ones (from another bar?) will take their place. I haven't been in PP in 8 months. I doubt if half of the damsels are still employed in the same bars. Doesn't matter to me. Go inside. Look around. Turn around and walk out if nothing pulls your heart strings. LOL.[/QUOTE]Speaking of BBBJ there is one instance I must report, one of a girl from Loco bar on Street 130. As mentioned earlier, I walked out after just one drink because of the awful atmosphere in the bar and the ridiculous rules around drinks and barfines. But not before I slipped my number to a girl named Teay. This one is easily recognisable. She has colored her hair with some green tints, making her look like a peacock. Also has a tattoo on her thigh. Dresses pretty provocatively. I met her later only to find out that her pussy stinks, so I asked her to do a BJ only. And boy did she deliver, or did she deliver. Easily among the best on this trip, though not the absolute best. I gave her $30 for her 1 hour effort. So, those of you who want a NSA BBBJ you have been forewarned.

Speaking of rosters, I observed the situation of ground quite differently. I noticed that most bars had the same set of girls working night after night. In fact 80% of the bars I visited had the same roster from my last trip in October 2017. The ones that had changes were Rose and OneZeroFour. Rose had traded up while OneZeroFour had gone to trash.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2178266]Speaking of BBBJ there is one instance I must report, one of a girl from Loco bar on Street 130. As mentioned earlier, I walked out after just one drink because of the awful atmosphere in the bar and the ridiculous rules around drinks and barfines. But not before I slipped my number to a girl named Teay. This one is easily recognisable. She has colored her hair with some green tints, making her look like a peacock. Also has a tattoo on her thigh. Dresses pretty provocatively. I met her later only to find out that her pussy stinks, so I asked her to do a BJ only. And boy did she deliver, or did she deliver. Easily among the best on this trip, though not the absolute best. I gave her $30 for her 1 hour effort. So, those of you who want a NSA BBBJ you have been forewarned.
.[/QUOTE]If her pussy stinks it is possible she is carrying the same germs in her mouth, throat and tonsils. So generally better to avoid BBBJ. I generally do finger and smell test on every girl I am interested. I have been known to send them away even after paying the bar. Nothing is totally safe but smelly pussy is a big turn off for me and I want nothing to do with her. Big percentage of Girls I have met in Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, China among other places do not have pussy smell. Some have musky smell which I attribute to condom, sweat smell.

Great reportage Blanquiceleste. Your posts have brought back fond memories of my last side trip.

Loco on 139 was the 1st bar I went to on my 1st night back in town after a local dinner. It was around 8:30 pm. As you described, Loco is a small bar and it seemed to me to be primarily set up as a clubhouse for the owner and his friends, who while I was there, were monopolizing the best girls in the bar. I sat down at a table along the wall and as I said, there were a couple of nice looking girls in the bar, but the nicest one, the only one, really, I would have been interested in getting to know, was already taken by one of the owner's friends. I selected the 3rd best looking girl in the bar who was only ok looking, IMHO, but had a decent body and a nice smile. Through her I ordered a coke light, but the order got mixed up and she brought me a Jack coke by mistake. I sent the drink back and the girl changed the bill with no muss or fuss. I gave her a small tip for her trouble / confusion and after a while I asked her to join me. So, I bought her a drink and she stood close with my arm around her while we talked a little and I made a few jokes. But the girl was not good enough to derail my plans for the evening, so I paid the tab and left.

I suppose on another night the good looking one would have been available and things might have ended up different, but I didn't care because eventually I made it over to Rose Bar where I ran into 2 sisters and they occupied my time 3 nights in a row. In fact, it was the younger Rose Bar sister who turned out to be my #1 new girl of the trip beating out super strong competition from a few new BKK girls (Kings Castle & Twister), 3 amazing new Jakarta girls (Alexis & Malio Club), and a couple of new Pinays (Cotton Club & Burgos St.). Phnom Penh can be that way sometimes. It is a funky and off beat town, but the girls can be simply amazing at times.

I was planning to go back to Cambodia this year, but then I heard from the older sister that her younger sister had quit the business and gone back home. I am not 100% sure this is true, but it is understandable if it is true. Younger sister burned too bright and so she burned out too fast had no staying power. I wish her well and hope she is happy wherever she is.

So, I am doing a visa run to Yangon this year. I don't think Yangon will be even half as good as Phnom girly wise, but I have never shagged a Burmese girl so, I got to try. 555! I will let you guys know how I make out. I am staying at Park Royal Hotel for only one reason; they have a well-known FL pick up bar in the hotel called Club 5. I wonder how it will compare to Darling Darling? LOL. And then there is a famous or infamous darkly lit palace of a FL pick up bar called the Emperor a few blocks away. So one way or another, I know I am going to have a good time in Yangon even as I miss Phnom a little bit. Next year I will go back to Khmerland! Definitely.

Stay thirsty,

NB.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2178292]Great reportage Blanquiceleste. Your posts have brought back fond memories of my last side trip.

SNIP

So, I am doing a visa run to Yangon this year. I don't think Yangon will be even half as good as Phnom girly wise, but I have never shagged a Burmese girl so, I got to try. 555! I will let you guys know how I make out. I am staying at Park Royal Hotel for only one reason; they have a well-known FL pick up bar in the hotel called Club 5. I wonder how it will compare to Darling Darling? [/QUOTE]Thank you for the appreciation Natty.

Speaking of Burma, I must get my ass around to Yangon for a short weekend this year. Never been there. A shame.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2178289]If her pussy stinks it is possible she is carrying the same germs in her mouth, throat and tonsils. So generally better to avoid BBBJ. I generally do finger and smell test on every girl I am interested. I have been known to send them away even after paying the bar. Nothing is totally safe but smelly pussy is a big turn off for me and I want nothing to do with her. Big percentage of Girls I have met in Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, China among other places do not have pussy smell. Some have musky smell which I attribute to condom, sweat smell.[/QUOTE]It has been a full week since she gave me a BBBJ and till now I have not experienced any symptoms of any infection. Touchwood.

But I will keep this advice in mind. Thanks you.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2178483]It has been a full week since she gave me a BBBJ and till now I have not experienced any symptoms of any infection. Touchwood.

But I will keep this advice in mind. Thanks you.[/QUOTE]I took a BBBJ from a hooker in Phnom Penh one evening. The next morning when I woke up the gonorrhea was already waiting for me. I am sure you are in the clear by now.

[QUOTE=Franga;2178506]I took a BBBJ from a hooker in Phnom Penh one evening. The next morning when I woke up the gonorrhea was already waiting for me. I am sure you are in the clear by now.[/QUOTE]Now that is a fuckin relief, ain't it!

I can go and happily bang the Indo cutie I have lined up for this weekend in SG.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2178482]Thank you for the appreciation Natty.

Speaking of Burma, I must get my ass around to Yangon for a short weekend this year. Never been there. A shame.[/QUOTE]Burma is really a wonderful country but things are more difficult outside Yangon for getting WG's. The Burmese women are sweet and relatively less spoilt than their Thai or Asian sisters. Emperor club is the place to be at Yangon. Plenty of girls (almost 1:10) but the club is very dark and quality varies. Emperor is more like Darling Darling (not cost or quality wise) where almost everyone is available and there is no pressure of lady drinks. From reading the forum, it seems HIV is also quite high in Yangon (debatable).

Looking to take a flight to Phenom Penh in a week or two for the passport stamp, and I'm starting to put together my plans. Looking at staying around the 130/136 street area.

I'm so spoiled by Bangkok and the variety of ways to pick up girls, AND the variety of girls. Somebody please tell me the Bar Girl scene is decent.

I'm not super picky. I LIKE 1500 Baht ($46 US) BKK SW's sometimes.

Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2183149]Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]What kind of help are you looking for? All you need to know has been posted here in the last couple of months.

Just a quick quesion: Is "Happy" food still available in PP?

Thanks in advance.

GC.

Has anyone tried approaching, possibly with a Viet-speaking assistant or driver, the Vietnamese communities of Phnom Penh, in search of adult sex workers? Such groups, although long-established, are still marginalised by the Khmer government and thus in need of extra income. Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2183627]Has anyone tried approaching, possibly with a Viet-speaking assistant or driver, the Vietnamese communities of Phnom Penh, in search of adult sex workers? Such groups, although long-established, are still marginalised by the Khmer government and thus in need of extra income. Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Long time ago there were Vietnamese chicks in Martini when it was open. The first Vietnamese chick that I fucked was at a fuck house in Siem Reap for $20. You can always try there.

Not very many Viet establishments any more and the ones that exist are not that interested in foreigners showing up because they prefer to remain under the radar. As you mention they are subject to discrimination by the government and many have been booted or left of their own volition. The only joint I know of (vaguely) is called Golden Vine I think on 110 or thereabouts. It used to be stocked with Vietnamese but I haven't bee there in a few years. BTW, if you live there shouldn't you be telling US where they are?

SE.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2183149].

I'm not super picky. I LIKE 1500 Baht ($46 US) BKK SW's sometimes.[/QUOTE]46 USD will more or less get you any girl in PP other than one who works at Darling Darling.

The bars can be fun. There are lots of them in a small concentrated area. You can't compare PP to Thailand. It's a fraction of the size and number of girls.

Imo a top Thai girl is far superior to a top khmer girl lookswise. This is where your being not picky will be a great advantage. Pp is worth a visit at least once if you need to make a visa run.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2183711]Not very many Viet establishments any more and the ones that exist are not that interested in foreigners showing up because they prefer to remain under the radar. As you mention they are subject to discrimination by the government and many have been booted or left of their own volition. The only joint I know of (vaguely) is called Golden Vine I think on 110 or thereabouts. It used to be stocked with Vietnamese but I haven't bee there in a few years. BTW, if you live there shouldn't you be telling US where they are?

SE.[/QUOTE]In one of my previous reports I mentioned that I followed some lead and headed to Golden Vine. That place is a dump. Don't bother. There are a couple of bars next door, I peeked into those as well. Nothing to see.

Hi guys,

I will be visiting Phnom Penh next week and staying at the Garden City Hotel. I believe that is far from the bar street riverside. Are there any pick up bars or nightclubs or massages with extras near the hotel. If going to Riverside for action is the only option then how much will a tuk tuk cost me. Is also the hotel girl friendly.

I will also be staying for a couple of days at the white mansion, I would appreciate similar info for that too.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2183627] Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]There are always two or three viets mixed in with the Khmers at Massa on Street 252. They even give them a red number badge whereas the Khmers get a blue one. Remember it's $7 for the house and offer $25 to the chick. If you don't bargain then the house will want $15 and the chick from $40 to $80, which is a complete ripoff but naive punters have paid this, so beware.

[QUOTE=Franga;2184104]There are always two or three viets mixed in with the Khmers at Massa on Street 252. [/QUOTE]I still never went to 'Massa'. Are the Viets usually young and, if so, half decent looking?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2184226]I still never went to 'Massa'. Are the Viets usually young and, if so, half decent looking?[/QUOTE]I would say they are "moderate" in looks. One small chick I took told me that she was 22 yrs old, but then another member with good intell told me she was actually over 30. There are usually better looking Khmers so I generally take one of them instead.

BTW the chicks now no longer use the upstairs rooms, but will take you downstairs and out the door to the adjoining guesthouse. The rooms there are normal guesthouse rooms. But there is no extra charge for these rooms.

[QUOTE=Franga;2184266]BTW the chicks now no longer use the upstairs rooms, but will take you downstairs and out the door to the adjoining guesthouse. The rooms there are normal guesthouse rooms. But there is no extra charge for these rooms.[/QUOTE]Franga's information is good but to update it, they are back to working as before, so use massage rooms upstairs for FS with no need to go outside. Prices still $7 + $25 (or what you negotiate).

But as to Viets, I haven't seen any on recent visits. One or two may claim 'mixed race' or may be ethnic Khmers from Vietnam. They don't look like Vietnamese.

This can of course change from day to day. Quality has been poor this year. I have a hunch that you might have more luck after 6 pm. I often visit Sonoma Oyster Bar near Bassac Lane for their $1 Vietnamese oysters (20% discount between 4 pm and 6 pm) before heading over.

[URL]http://www.sonomaoyster.com/index.html[/URL]

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Tercar66;2183984]Hi guys,

I will be visiting Phnom Penh next week and staying at the Garden City Hotel. I believe that is far from the bar street riverside. Are there any pick up bars or nightclubs or massages with extras near the hotel. If going to Riverside for action is the only option then how much will a tuk tuk cost me. Is also the hotel girl friendly.

I will also be staying for a couple of days at the white mansion, I would appreciate similar info for that too.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Lots of hotels and guest houses in PP. I suggest that you email each to see what their policy is regarding bringing guests to your room. That is my M. O. And it works. Garden City is quite far from the bars, clubs, discos. Probably 12-15 km from the riverside bars. I'm just guessing a $7-$10 tuk tuk fare. White Mansion is on the edge of what I think most would consider ground zero for my idea of Sanuk. For $1 tuk tuk. A quick ride up Street 51 to Pontoon and Heart of Darkness and a few hostess bars. From there, maybe another $1 ride to the streets that have the most hostess bars.

Have fun and don't be afraid to share your adventures here.

SS.

Will be traveling to PP soon. Was wondering if any of you have been to any of the new hostess bars in the city? I am wondering if the talent is being spread thin?

[QUOTE=PincheGringo;2187241]Will be traveling to PP soon. Was wondering if any of you have been to any of the new hostess bars in the city? I am wondering if the talent is being spread thin?[/QUOTE]Which new hostess bars are you referring to specifically? Can you name the bars and their location? I was there just at the end of April and all the bargirl talent was concentrated around 136,130 and 104. Maybe 110 and 51 if you want some more variety.

Does anyone know if or when Soroya Mall reopens?

[QUOTE=Peter20;2187632]Does anyone know if or when Soroya Mall reopens?[/QUOTE]It did. 7.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2183627]Has anyone tried approaching, possibly with a Viet-speaking assistant or driver, the Vietnamese communities of Phnom Penh, in search of adult sex workers? Such groups, although long-established, are still marginalised by the Khmer government and thus in need of extra income. Most experienced single men would rate Viet women above the Khmer in terms of looks and performance. Any tips, leads or suggestions from (and to) a fellow Phnom Penh resident? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Vietnamese beauties really have no reason to go to Phnom Penh when they have options like Saigon, Kuala Lumpur or. HCMC.

A few places staff Viets still to this day:

Golden Vine bar on Street 108.

City Bar on Street 110.

Ben's Bar on Street 110.

Tanabata on Street 63 is Viets only.

Mao's on 106.

At least three of the fish bowl massages including the "massa" place on 252 often mentioned have Viets. So do many of the super cheap boom boom massages on the ring road.

There are also Vietnamese karoke joints on Street 15, Street 136 and others, but they don't take kindly to people who can't at least speak Tieng Viet.

Luckily there are plenty of Khmer beauties in Cambodia. Millions in fact.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2187864]Vietnamese beauties really have no reason to go to Phnom Penh when they have options like Saigon, Kuala Lumpur or. HCMC[/QUOTE]Aren't Saigon and HCMC the same place?

[QUOTE=RickRock;2187864]A few places staff Viets still to this day:

Golden Vine bar on Street 108.
City Bar on Street 110.
Ben's Bar on Street 110.
Tanabata on Street 63 is Viets only.
Mao's on 106.

At least three of the fish bowl massages including the "massa" place on 252 often mentioned have Viets. So do many of the super cheap boom boom massages on the ring road.
There are also Vietnamese karoke joints on Street 15, Street 136 and others, but they don't take kindly to people who can't at least speak Tieng Viet.[/QUOTE]No offense meant but when was the last time you were on ground? I can confirm from my last trip in April that Golden Vine, City Bar and Ben's have NO Viet girls. I have never been to Tanabata or Mao's, thank you for the intel.

Fishbowl massage shops are not my cuppa tea, so I will pass that one.

Also, I have never seen a Karaoke joint on 136, unless you are referring to places that are further to the west, away from the riverside. Would be keen to explore.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2187864]Luckily there are plenty of Khmer beauties in Cambodia. Millions in fact.[/QUOTE]God bless them for that. Love the cuties.

I don't think I've ever seen a bar where it was all milfs. Just wondering if you guys knew of an area or bar where you can find them. Would GSM be a viable spot?

Hi: Looking for a hotel that doesn't have security / front desk people / doormen looking every time I come in and out. Really makes it uncomfortable for me. Suggestions? Should I just get an airbnb instead?

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2189713]Hi: Looking for a hotel that doesn't have security / front desk people / doormen looking every time I come in and out. Really makes it uncomfortable for me. Suggestions? Should I just get an airbnb instead?[/QUOTE]Security and front desk people know what you and most everyone else is doing so relax those people are there help not judge you.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2187912]
No offense meant but when was the last time you were on ground? I can confirm from my last trip in April that Golden Vine, City Bar and Ben's have NO Viet girls. I have never been to Tanabata or Mao's, thank you for the intel.

Fishbowl massage shops are not my cuppa tea, so I will pass that one.

Also, I have never seen a Karaoke joint on 136, unless you are referring to places that are further to the west, away from the riverside. Would be keen to explore.

[/QUOTE]Mate there are definitely Viet girls in Golden Vine I have known the owner there for 18 years and some of the girls there are good friends that have been there for about 8 years and more. Also quite a few Viet Karaoke places on 130 and 136

Just a quick report. Did stay again at Sun&Moon despite wanting to try something new. They do insist on telling you they charge a 10 $ fee per guest. But even tho registering a few girls on checkout there was no sign of it again on bill. Last time this was the same. No idea why. Maybe the guard at night registering guests doesn't bother. You could even give a fake room number anyway. No check done.

If you don't want the reception asking you to register the guest- before 10/11 nobody bothers asking you anyway.

For those wanting 'new' girls (with zero English) that are completely new to it all: the bar on 136 with two levels (where you can sit on 2 d floor) have 'many'of them and they are lovely altho obv. Shy as. But if you hit the right note with them and can make some sort of connection it can be fun times. Nice place anyway with lovely staff. Also the cutest cashier who unfortunately as the only one in this place can't be 'taken'. Very intelligent Uni student.

Oh the reception girls at Sun&M told me they are planning to build a high-rise new S&M hotel close to the bridge. Planning is underway but they are awaiting elections which are next month as apparently this can have a big effect on the economy / tourism etc.

Oh and there is now a new mega mall. Aeon 2. It's '30 minute' outside the main bar area so not the most convenient for visitors however it is beautiful. It's funny seeing some of the visitors. Many of them apparently never seen a escalator and were too scared to get on it: the Great pick-up place for day-game I imagine and fun to take a girl. Much more vibrant then the original Aeon 1.

I know its a new place, new building. But I kinda of like the old one. I like the sleaziness and the mature women who were there. I'm wondering if those girls are still there or is it cleaned up?

I want to really see everything. I love the sleaziness of the nightlife. I guess its a fetish of mine. I heard about svay pak but heard its closed to all foreigners. Are there places or areas in PP where you have ventured to and thought Jesus I wouldn't want to come here again?

[QUOTE=Shadow6491;2190051]Mate there are definitely Viet girls in Golden Vine I have known the owner there for 18 years and some of the girls there are good friends that have been there for about 8 years and more. Also quite a few Viet Karaoke places on 130 and 136[/QUOTE]I am simply recounting my experience. Unless the Viet girls were really ugly and I simply did not cast more than a fleeting glance, there were none there at the time I visited.

Could you please share the coordinates of these Karaoke joints on 130 and 136 please? PM me if you would like some discretion.

I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly.

Rose bar: I had picked two girls from here. One on the first day. She said she was around 25 and had a great body. Stayed till 11 am. Was wonderful company and two slices of beef steak I got her for dinner must have had something to do with it. She was really hungry and almost finished the first serving before my food was served. 70 $ LT and 35 $ dinner. I went looking for her on third day but could not find her and but picked a girl with nice tits and half of her ass was popping out of her tiny trousers. Oh man, lot of cat calls from tuk tuk drivers. The hotel receptionist were not very happy. $70 for stay till 2 am. No dinner for her as I spent most time feasting on her. She had a bit of attitude and bit of bad breadth. Another great night.

Dragon fly bar: This bar was my second choice. On street 130 next to 136 corner bar. It had almost half of dozen girls that can be picked up. I picked up a girl who I thought was beautiful and a great smile. We just clicked. Spent couple of wonderful nights with her. 70 $ each night and couple of dinners.

Darlin Darlin: Went there on a Sunday. Decent crowd and lot of eye contact. I got along nicely with a bit of thick girl with great tits and ass. She was in no way fat or even.

Close to being one. May be a 7. I got her couple of glasses of wine. I played the game a bit different. I did not ask her to come with me but started to leave saying I wanted to spend some time in casino and later leave to hotel. She said she wanted to spend some time with me. I offered her $100. She countered with $150 but then accepted when I just started leaving. Mind you she knew there were couple of other girls eyeing me (my $). Another good night. 3 shots in little over an hour and she left around midnight. Very hurried but very co-operative. Strong bbj and I sneaked in a bit of anal action as well. She always had her hand or mouth around my dick to get it hard. No complains.

Apart from the above bars, I visited a lot of bars in 104,136,130,172,110,118 (- LOCA, aArforce, Yellow bar, Tokyo bar, Corner 136, Butterfly, Xanadu. No Cyrcee or Pontoon this time. Overall a good trip. I tried to get a new girl every day and when I didn't, I went back to one of the girls from previous night. My strategy with Darlin Darlin worked. I was able to get a girl with $100 . All my three bar girls were far superior to most girls in Darlin Darlin Darlin. Mind you I did visit a lot of bars. A couple of girls at the pool bar at Okay gave me an impression that they were up for it. They had seen my spending decent on my bar girls in dinner and drinks but I was not in that frame of mind to pick them up.

[QUOTE=Nazgylg15;2192647]I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly..[/QUOTE]You seemed to have made maximum use of your 5 days! Good work! I like your wage scale and the mixture of sweet girls and [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. LOL I've been yearning for my return trip to PP from the time I was departing the PP airport last time.

Thanks for your report.

SS.

[QUOTE=Nazgylg15;2192647]I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly.

Rose bar

Dragon fly bar

Darlin Darlin.................I offered her $100. She countered with $150 but then accepted when I just started leaving. Mind you she knew there were couple of other girls eyeing me (my $). Another good night. 3 shots in little over an hour and she left around midnight. Very hurried but very co-operative. Strong bbj and I sneaked in a bit of anal action as well. She always had her hand or mouth around my dick to get it hard. No complains.
My strategy with Darlin Darlin worked. I was able to get a girl with $100 .

A couple of girls at the pool bar at Okay gave me an impression that they were up for it. They had seen my spending decent on my bar girls in dinner and drinks but I was not in that frame of mind to pick them up.[/QUOTE]Great report mate. Thanks.

Good to see you had luck at Rose Bar. Something has definitely changed up there, and for the good. Never tried Dragonfly before. Will make a note for my next visit, however, we all know things can change by then.

At DD the norm is $100. So you paid the on-par price. But what you got in return seems to be a real bargain. Most girls at DD want to scoot after you drop a load.

The girls at the pool bar, were they employed by the hotel? I cannot imagine FLs hanging out by a pool bar inside a hotel like Okay Boutique.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2192979]Great report mate. Thanks.

Good to see you had luck at Rose Bar. Something has definitely changed up there, and for the good. Never tried Dragonfly before. Will make a note for my next visit, however, we all know things can change by then.

At DD the norm is $100. So you paid the on-par price. But what you got in return seems to be a real bargain. Most girls at DD want to scoot after you drop a load.

The girls at the pool bar, were they employed by the hotel? I cannot imagine FLs hanging out by a pool bar inside a hotel like Okay Boutique.[/QUOTE]For Darling Darling girl, she asked for $100ST and I wanted that price LT. In the end I think both of us compromised a bit but got what we wanted. So win, win.

The girls at the bar were waitress and cashier cum waitress. Generally taking the hotel waitress / maids is NO NO for me as it puts them in danger of job loss and other consequences. But they did look very tempting and lots of eye contact and smiles. May be they were just encouraging me to spend more time in bar and buy drinks and I was thinking too much with my dick. Anyway was fun.

Hi,

Does anyone know whether the Palace Gate hire is guest friendly? There is no information either way in taker website and thus far I haven't got a response to an email I sent.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Norman.

[QUOTE=NormanBrightside;2193842]Hi,

Does anyone know whether the Palace Gate hire is guest friendly? There is no information either way in taker website and thus far I haven't got a response to an email I sent.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Norman.[/QUOTE]Unless specifically stated, all hotels in PP are guest friendly. Don't worry too much, just walk in confidently.

Thanks buddy. There's a bit of talk here about non girl friendly hotels so I wanted to double check. But I'm used to the walk of shame in Dubai so I'm sure it will be fine😀.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2193927]Unless specifically stated, all hotels in PP are guest friendly. Don't worry too much, just walk in confidently.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NormanBrightside;2193946]Thanks buddy. There's a bit of talk here about non girl friendly hotels so I wanted to double check. But I'm used to the walk of shame in Dubai so I'm sure it will be fine😀.[/QUOTE]Cool. Just one observation though. If you are head to PP for mongering (which I presume you are), then this hotel may not be your best choice from a location and convenience perspective. Unless you are focused on picking up chicks from Darlin Darlina and Epic. A a bit of a ride to the sleaze streets like 136 or 130 or further. Even more to places like Pontoon.

No I'm here on business but have some free time in the evening. Which is why I was a little worried. So much appreciation for your advice so I will post on my experiences. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2193927]Unless specifically stated, all hotels in PP are guest friendly. Don't worry too much, just walk in confidently.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2193953]Cool. Just one observation though. If you are head to PP for mongering (which I presume you are), then this hotel may not be your best choice from a location and convenience perspective. Unless you are focused on picking up chicks from Darlin Darlina and Epic. A a bit of a ride to the sleaze streets like 136 or 130 or further. Even more to places like Pontoon.[/QUOTE]

Gents,

Anywhere near 136 where I could get a couple vitamins to help in my longevity?

[QUOTE=FairFromJerz;2194299]Gents,

Anywhere near 136 where I could get a couple vitamins to help in my longevity?[/QUOTE]On 136 if you walk west away from the riverside, you will encounter a rash of pharmacy stores around 500 m down that road. You will find your stuff, no prescriptions needed.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2194393]On 136 if you walk west away from the riverside, you will encounter a rash of pharmacy stores around 500 m down that road. You will find your stuff, no prescriptions needed.[/QUOTE]And about 100 m on 136 from the riverside there is a small convenience store (similar to 7-11) that has a very complete selection of the same type of "vitamin"located at the check out. The different brands are displayed much like packs of gum so easy to read the labels. I think the name of the store is "Neil's" and might be next door to the "69 bar".

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2194393]On 136 if you walk west away from the riverside, you will encounter a rash of pharmacy stores around 500 m down that road. You will find your stuff, no prescriptions needed.[/QUOTE]Blanquiceleste, thank you for the info! I know exactly where you are talking about! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2194396]And about 100 m on 136 from the riverside there is a small convenience store (similar to 7-11) that has a very complete selection of the same type of "vitamin"located at the check out. The different brands are displayed much like packs of gum so easy to read the labels. I think the name of the store is "Neil's" and might be next door to the "69 bar".[/QUOTE]Sam is referring to the store directly across from Lux Riverside hotel. V and C are located right at the cash register.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2194396]And about 100 m on 136 from the riverside there is a small convenience store (similar to 7-11) that has a very complete selection of the same type of "vitamin"located at the check out. The different brands are displayed much like packs of gum so easy to read the labels. I think the name of the store is "Neil's" and might be next door to the "69 bar".[/QUOTE]That is good to know. Never needed any supplements till date, but good information for future reference. I have bought stuff like ice, beer, chips, soft drinks, etc from Neil's but never once noticed that they sell "vitamins".

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rufuss818;2190482]I know its a new place, new building. But I kinda of like the old one. I like the sleaziness and the mature women who were there. I'm wondering if those girls are still there or is it cleaned up?[/QUOTE]I was there last week. They made the place huge with a lot of small bar blocks inside. I think 90% is not occupied so it's a boring place now. No more pool tables and TV screens. Just a few FL girl at the bars on the street side.

I visited Phnom Pneh last week after 3 years. It is still the same story on 136 street or 140 street. If someone wants to pay 3.5 usd just for chit chat or pay for company to play pool. There are massages, the ones with Uniform will not entertain extras. I went to a massage near the 136 street where it was mentioned usd 3 for casual massage. Before entering I told offered her 5 USD for HJ and she agreed.

Having said there the best place to pick up is at Darlin Darlin at Naga hotel with good music and more than 30 to 40 very beautiful girls. The second place I recommend is Sharkys, they too have some good choices. If you plan to go to Ho Chi Minh by bus, I suggest Mekong express, they have good bus service with just 20 USD approx. Cost and they will do all your visa process if you have the original visa letter for Vietnam.

[QUOTE=Nazgylg15;2192647]I spent 5 days in PP and stayed at Okay boutique. It was a great stay and hotel was perfectly girl friendly.

Rose bar: I had picked two girls from here. One on the first day. She said she was around 25 and had a great body. Stayed till 11 am. Was wonderful company and two slices of beef steak I got her for dinner must have had something to do with it. She was really hungry and almost finished the first serving before my food was served. 70 $ LT and 35 $ dinner. I went looking for her on third day but could not find her and but picked a girl with nice tits and half of her ass was popping out of her tiny trousers. Oh man, lot of cat calls from tuk tuk drivers. The hotel receptionist were not very happy. $70 for stay till 2 am. No dinner for her as I spent most time feasting on her. She had a bit of attitude and bit of bad breadth. Another great night..[/QUOTE]I have been doing Cambodia since 2001 and I must say that the monger or visitor paying more than 50 dollar for fuck is completely idiots, believe me I live in PP and if you know how shit the girls talk about stupid Barangs pay a fortune for dirty pussies. 100 dollar + barfine and some idiots money just for talk or pool is far more expensive than Europe or the states, it people like you idiot who pay this money and then write about it her that destroy for everybody, even the girls!

[QUOTE=Tercar66;2195857]I visited Phnom Pneh last week after 3 years. It is still the same story on 136 street or 140 street. If someone wants to pay 3.5 usd just for chit chat or pay for company to play pool. There are massages, the ones with Uniform will not entertain extras. I went to a massage near the 136 street where it was mentioned usd 3 for casual massage. Before entering I told offered her 5 USD for HJ and she agreed.

Having said there the best place to pick up is at Darlin Darlin at Naga hotel with good music and more than 30 to 40 very beautiful girls. The second place I recommend is Sharkys, they too have some good choices. If you plan to go to Ho Chi Minh by bus, I suggest Mekong express, they have good bus service with just 20 USD approx. Cost and they will do all your visa process if you have the original visa letter for Vietnam.[/QUOTE]To Tercar.

How much they charge for viet visa process if you don't have the Vietnam visa letter how much extra is that.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Finkel60;2196410]I have been doing Cambodia since 2001 and I must say that the monger or visitor paying more than 50 dollar for fuck is completely idiots, believe me I live in PP and if you know how shit the girls talk about stupid Barangs pay a fortune for dirty pussies. 100 dollar + barfine and some idiots money just for talk or pool is far more expensive than Europe or the states, it people like you idiot who pay this money and then write about it her that destroy for everybody, even the girls![/QUOTE]Here comes another self-appointed price policeman. 6 posts to his credit, nearly all of them complaining about prices. Not one report to his credit. And he comes out to abuse another BM who is taking effort to write a report. Do we really need such pricks on these threads?

I bet this guy won't even get an entry to Darlin Darlin, let alone pick a girl from there. What a wanker.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2197345]Here comes another self-appointed price policeman. 6 posts to his credit, nearly all of them complaining about prices. Not one report to his credit. And he comes out to abuse another BM who is taking effort to write a report. Do we really need such pricks on these threads?

I bet this guy won't even get an entry to Darlin Darlin, let alone pick a girl from there. What a wanker.[/QUOTE]To Blanquiceleste.

I think Mr Finkel mean he have not been back to PP since 2001 my first trip here is back in 2002 you can get young Viet girls at brothel all over the city for 5 usd, everything have gone up all over SEA since then so live with it.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2197527]To Blanquiceleste.

I think Mr Finkel mean he have not been back to PP since 2001 my first trip here is back in 2002 you can get young Viet girls at brothel all over the city for 5 usd, everything have gone up all over SEA since then so live with it.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]That may be true, but no one is interested in what happened 10,15, 20 years ago. What people are interested in is what is happening now.

Sure, if you are a resident, there are some advantages you can enjoy over 1 week tourists, like.

1. You probably speak the language.

2. You have no time pressure to pick a girl. If not today, tomorrow, else day after and so on.

3. You have already built up a list of viable options.

4. People in town get to know you and that can have some benefits (or not depending on the reputation you build).

That said, I want to see if anyone walk into Darlin Darlin and pick a girl for under $100. You may argue the girls are not worth that price, that is another subject.

Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?

Also, to any suggestions on the best way to go to Angkor is bus, tuk tuk, etc.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2198497]Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?

Also, to any suggestions on the best way to go to Angkor is bus, tuk tuk, etc.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you've ever arrived at the Phnom Penh airport from another country. But the best way to describe the entry process involving the visa on arrival is a bit chaotic and inefficient in my opinion. The last 2 times I've arrived internationally, I have used the online visa service on the official government site. It costs a few dollar more, but worth it (again, in my opinion). You go straight to the desks where passports are stamped in. Get your checked bag. And go. You bypass all of the crowd still waiting for their visa on arrival when you exit the hall. Just make doubly sure you are using the Official government visa website, as there are a number of services / re-sellers of the same visa. I got my online visas by email within 24 hours; printed them out; and presented them to immigration with my passport and landing card.

My Cambodian friends who travel between PP and SR usually take a "VIP" mini-van. It's faster than the bus and only about $10 US. I've never gone overland. Only flown between the 2 places. Tuk tuk? LOL Even if I could get a driver to do that trip, you couldn't pay me enough to do that. Consider the potential of a serious accident, the snail's pace, heat, and grime. No thank you. Ha ha ha.

Sam.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2198497]Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?

Also, to any suggestions on the best way to go to Angkor is bus, tuk tuk, etc.[/QUOTE]The best way is to get the online Visa before. Less hassle and also cheaper and you don't have to stay on queue at the airport.

You can go by bus to Siem reap. The tuk tuk drivers will Catch you there.

(I hope this is acceptable for my first post).

Yeah I was thinking about flying given I have limited time. Aslo, I noticed Sihanoukville and Siem reap don't have maps on here like Phnom Penh. If anyone has one to share that would be awesome. Looking at the Sihanoukville thread, it seems to be dead there. But the beach sounds attractive. Anyways looking forward to my trip and potentially partying with some fellow mongers. See why'all soon enough.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2198692]I don't know if you've ever arrived at the Phnom Penh airport from another country. But the best way to describe the entry process involving the visa on arrival is a bit chaotic and inefficient in my opinion. The last 2 times I've arrived internationally, I have used the online visa service on the official government site. It costs a few dollar more, but worth it (again, in my opinion). You go straight to the desks where passports are stamped in. Get your checked bag. And go. You bypass all of the crowd still waiting for their visa on arrival when you exit the hall. Just make doubly sure you are using the Official government visa website, as there are a number of services / re-sellers of the same visa. I got my online visas by email within 24 hours; printed them out; and presented them to immigration with my passport and landing card.

My Cambodian friends who travel between PP and SR usually take a "VIP" mini-van. It's faster than the bus and only about $10 US. I've never gone overland. Only flown between the 2 places. Tuk tuk? LOL Even if I could get a driver to do that trip, you couldn't pay me enough to do that. Consider the potential of a serious accident, the snail's pace, heat, and grime. No thank you. Ha ha ha.

Sam.[/QUOTE]

Awesome. Will do the online Visa. Is happy pizza / happy food as prevalent in siem reap / sihanoukville as Phnom Penh?

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2198703]The best way is to get the online Visa before. Less hassle and also cheaper and you don't have to stay on queue at the airport.

You can go by bus to Siem reap. The tuk tuk drivers will Catch you there.

(I hope this is acceptable for my first post).[/QUOTE]

Guys, do not waste your precious time on ground transportation. A flight is less than 1 hour, and yes, Bangkok Air can cost a lot, but check smaller airlines--Bassaka, Cambodia Airways, Cambodia Angkor Air, Cambodia Bayon Airlines, Sky Angkor, and I'm sure I've missed a few others. I flew there for $40-50 OW.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2198703]The best way is to get the online Visa before. Less hassle and also cheaper and you don't have to stay on queue at the airport.

You can go by bus to Siem reap. The tuk tuk drivers will Catch you there.

(I hope this is acceptable for my first post).[/QUOTE]Applying for a visa online costs $35. Getting a visa on arrival costs $30. So it is not cheaper, but definitely more convenient. Get a bus to SR.

Just visited PP one year after my last visit. Bad start. My favorite hotel is now closed (Bougainvillier) - building is for rent. Less beggars in the streets than last year, but more motorbike drivers and tuk-tuk drivers harassing you as you walk around. One evening I made a 1 km walk on the quay and was asked 29 times! OK, you can ignore them, but it is a real pain.

Coffee shops all over the place now, with Starbucks, Amazon, Gloria Jeans, Boss and dozens of small independent outfits. That is on the positive side. Hooters apparently has given up and will not open.

Many new bars on street 130 and a few new ones in the little side streets. 136 not very busy, same for 104. Nice, but girls have turned into drink sluts and pressure to buy drinks has increased to a level which makes it unpleasant, especially if you walk into a bar on your own. Bar fining is not a problem. Prices negotiable but 30 $ for ST and 50 $ LT still applicable (of course, in one of the bars a first time Japanese visitor was quoted 50 $ ST and he went for it without discussion). Many girls willing to go, but performance is lousy. Picked a nice one from a small bar in a side street of 136. Very GF in the bar with a shy attitude. Once in the room she would not take off her cloth without turning off the light, shower alone and hide under the bed cover with a towel! Any attempt to remove the towel would generate a scream! Finally managed to have her naked on the bed, but I got fed up with it, threw her cloths at her and kicked her out. Wasted barfine! It was late already, but could not end the evening without getting laid properly, so went straight to Cyrcee and took 2 nice ones to the hotel next door. No fuss, straight to business and a great attitude of both girls in a perfect threeseome.

Will not waste any time in the bars anymore next time, unless I want to go for drinks.

[QUOTE=Michelangelo;2199330]Just visited PP one year after my last visit. Bad start. My favorite hotel is now closed (Bougainvillier) - building is for rent. Less beggars in the streets than last year, but more motorbike drivers and tuk-tuk drivers harassing you as you walk around. One evening I made a 1 km walk on the quay and was asked 29 times! OK, you can ignore them, but it is a real pain.
Coffee shops all over the place now, with Starbucks, Amazon, Gloria Jeans, Boss and dozens of small independent outfits. That is on the positive side. Hooters apparently has given up and will not open.
Will not waste any time in the bars anymore next time, unless I want to go for drinks.[/QUOTE]Performance down, scams up, WTF even Phil & now Malaysia. Playground is becoming a lottery and we know who odds are usually in favour of. Geezzzzzz.

[QUOTE=Michelangelo;2199330]Will not waste any time in the bars anymore next time, unless I want to go for drinks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2199344]Performance down, scams up, WTF even Phil & now Malaysia. Playground is becoming a lottery and we know who odds are usually in favour of. Geezzzzzz.[/QUOTE]No offense meant, but once in a while it might be good to introspect and see if there is anything wrong you are doing as a monger. A short list of possibilities.

1. Are you giving off the wrong vibe?

2. Are you being cheap?

3. Are you groomed properly, do not smell or look unclean?

4 Are you being rude or high-handed with the wait staff and the bar girls?

5. Are you haggling over a few dollars? Remember you have more, the girls have less. I read Michelangelo's post where he quotes ST at $30 and LT at $50. I think this may be a tad less than expectations on the street.

6. Do you have unrealistic expectations in terms of performance? This is not an oily massage parlor in BKK.

7. Are you doing stuff to girls in your room that make them uncomfortable? Remember, words gets around quickly in these parts.

8. Are you staying in a really cheap dive of a hotel? This should not matter much though.

9. Do you treat the your date for the night well? Like feed them, etc.

10. Are you smiling enough?

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2198497]Hey guys,

I will be going to Phnom Penh in December. Was wondering about the Visa situation. I read online you can get it on arrival in the airport for $30, but I also see you can do it online at the official government site.

Any suggestions?
[/QUOTE]It's not a problem to get a visa on arrival at the airport. Takes about 5 minutes. Bring a photo. But be aware that if you give them $100 usd cash for the tourist visa they will try and scam you for $5 and only give you $65 change instead of $70. Just tell them to give you the extra $5, and they will give it back. This happened twice in a row to me so it is an obvious scam by the immigration officials.

Popped into Honeypot on Street 130 - always found this a good, well-run bar.

But a bit different last night as there was a european hostess working. Blonde girl prob mid 20's. She was with a customer and so I did not talk to her but one of the local girls said she was from Europe and spoke english.

Dunno. Maybe a backpacker who lost her way (or maybe lost her wallet! Will try to get back and have a chat but others might like to check her out and update us.

Hey guys,

I wanted to play some Texas hold them in Phnom Penh. I found riverking and nagaworld. Wondering I anyone can give me info on the situations at these places. Pros and cons etc.

Thanks.

I just got a noticed saying my evisa status is "skip" and that my processing has been postponed. Has anybody had this before?

Hotels? Area? Ride from airport? Are there clubs as well as bars? Do we exchange money or use US dollars?

[QUOTE=Bubba999;2200278]Popped into Honeypot on Street 130 - always found this a good, well-run bar.

But a bit different last night as there was a european hostess working. Blonde girl prob mid 20's. She was with a customer and so I did not talk to her but one of the local girls said she was from Europe and spoke english.

Dunno. Maybe a backpacker who lost her way (or maybe lost her wallet! Will try to get back and have a chat but others might like to check her out and update us.[/QUOTE]Some BM on the Bangkok, Thailand forum wrote about a fair skinned Cambodian girl who spoke impeccable English (with an OZ accent). Could be her? Matches the other parts of your description.

Keep the thread informed.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2200623]I just got a noticed saying my evisa status is "skip" and that my processing has been postponed. Has anybody had this before?[/QUOTE]This is a first! I think you should call the Embassy and ask them for details after a day or two if nothing moves. I would not take this lightly.

[QUOTE=Trafukin;2200731]Hotels? Area? Ride from airport? Are there clubs as well as bars? Do we exchange money or use US dollars?[/QUOTE]Evidently you have not RTFF. But here goes, so more members will benefit.

Hotels: Assuming you want to stay close to the girly bar action. Depends on your budget too. Amanjaya Pancam is probably the only $100+ hotel in that vicinity. Next come hotels like Sun & Moon Urban and The Quay Boutique. These will be $70-$90 depending on what kind of rooms you want. After that you will find several in the $50 range. Lux Riverside is a tried and tested option. There is also Ohana Phnom Penh, Harmony, Panorama, etc. Run a search on Agoda / Booking / Hotels and you will get a sense of the place. All are Guest Friendly. There are other hotels too, but I have not stayed in them, so you can go by reviews on the internet.

Ride from airport: Take a state run taxi. $12 fixed price from airport to riverside. Follow the signs, it is not hard. Walk outside the airport and hail a tuk-tuk if you want to save $4-$5. If it is raining this will be a big hassle. There is an ride sharing app called PassApp. Works like Uber. A bit cheaper than the regular taxi.

Clubs: Of course there are clubs in Phnom Penh. Darlin Darlin at NagaWorld is the place to go if you want to pick up WGs. Best chicks in town, $100 for ST at your hotel. Then there is Epic, F-Club (in NagaWorld), Pontoon, Heart of Darkness, Eclipse Sky Bar, Club 88, Boss, V Club, Muse, Vito, Club Love, etc. Take your pick. YMMV.

Currency. US Dollars work just fine everywhere. You get return change less than a dollar in local currency. Keep that to pay tips at all places you visit. People expect to be tipped.

Now that you have taken, make sure you give back by writing a report after you visit.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2200755]Currency. US Dollars work just fine everywhere. [/QUOTE]Make sure yout USD or any other acceptable foreign currency is in very good to excellent condition or the bars and restaurants will not take them. I still remember one incident I had using a pretty good condition USD. The guy at the cashier said he can't accept it since it was wrinkled. I had to talk to the manager at length to accept my 50 USD. When they finaly accepted it the same cashier started handing me USD change in far worse condition that he would not accept just a few minutes earlier. I gave him an earful and he just laughed and reached in for crisp new bills.

I also still have a souvenir from Cambodia. A possible counterfeit 50 USD bill. I think this is what happened. Was at Bar 104. Handed them a good 50 USD I just took out of the ATM earlier in the night. They came back to me and asked it I had smaller bills since they didn't have change. I managed to find smaller change. They handed me 50 USD back. I didn't check it. I went home and took my money out of my pockets and immediately noticed the 50 USD from Bar 104 was either counterfeit or was an odd looking 50 USD bill. Management knows me at Bar 104 but I didn't go back to complain about it as I don't know who the culprit in the bar was. Chalked it up to a lesson learned and now I check all bills of value I receive in Asia.

I photograph all large USD bills that I get out of an ATM in Cambodia. Then when I go to spend them and someone hands me back "my" note and says it is no good, then I know if it is mine or not.

I don't want anyone doing a switcheroo on me, especially when large amounts are involved. I had it happen to me in Ecuador from hookers and taxi drivers. But not yet in Cambodia.

[QUOTE=Franga;2200784]I photograph all large USD bills that I get out of an ATM in Cambodia. Then when I go to spend them and someone hands me back "my" note and says it is no good, then I know if it is mine or not.

I don't want anyone doing a switcheroo on me, especially when large amounts are involved. I had it happen to me in Ecuador from hookers and taxi drivers. But not yet in Cambodia.[/QUOTE]Interesting scam. For those who are especially careful or paranoid, you can buy the counterfeit detection pens used in some retail stores located in the USA Amazon sells them for $1 00-$1 50 each in packs of 6-8. The pens are also available at office supply outlets in the USA.

SS.

So I emailed them and they said since my trip is five months away, they will delay processing as once processed the Evisa is only good for three months. They said not to worry and it will be processed a couple months before arrival to ensure it is still valid. Phew! So if you get status skip and your trip is more than three months away no need to worry guys. The Cambodian government is looking out for us. I'm liking Cambodia already!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2200750]This is a first! I think you should call the Embassy and ask them for details after a day or two if nothing moves. I would not take this lightly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2200755]Evidently you have not RTFF. But here goes, so more members will benefit.

Hotels: Assuming you want to stay close to the girly bar action. Depends on your budget too. Amanjaya Pancam is probably the only $100+ hotel in that vicinity. Next come hotels like Sun & Moon Urban and The Quay Boutique. These will be $70-$90 depending on what kind of rooms you want. After that you will find several in the $50 range. Lux Riverside is a tried and tested option. There is also Ohana Phnom Penh, Harmony, Panorama, etc. Run a search on Agoda / Booking / Hotels and you will get a sense of the place. All are Guest Friendly. There are other hotels too, but I have not stayed in them, so you can go by reviews on the internet.

Ride from airport: Take a state run taxi. $12 fixed price from airport to riverside. Follow the signs, it is not hard. Walk outside the airport and hail a tuk-tuk if you want to save $4-$5. If it is raining this will be a big hassle. There is an ride sharing app called PassApp. Works like Uber. A bit cheaper than the regular taxi..[/QUOTE]Thank you! I have saved all this information!

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2200980]So I emailed them and they said since my trip is five months away, they will delay processing as once processed the Evisa is only good for three months. They said not to worry and it will be processed a couple months before arrival to ensure it is still valid. Phew! So if you get status skip and your trip is more than three months away no need to worry guys. The Cambodian government is looking out for us. I'm liking Cambodia already![/QUOTE]Good to know. I would still email them closer to the date of travel as a reminder, if it does not arrive as promised.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2200828]Interesting scam. For those who are especially careful or paranoid, you can buy the counterfeit detection pens used in some retail stores located in the USA Amazon sells them for $1 00-$1 50 each in packs of 6-8. The pens are also available at office supply outlets in the USA.
SS.[/QUOTE]Don't rely too much on these pens. They aim to detect starch by a simple reaction with Iodine and false negatives and false positives are common. We used to run a class for chemistry students around this idea and they would create "fakes" to elude the pen tests based on understanding the chemistry of the reaction! But yeah counterfeit USD is a problem everywhere.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2197345]Here comes another self-appointed price policeman. 6 posts to his credit, nearly all of them complaining about prices. Not one report to his credit. And he comes out to abuse another BM who is taking effort to write a report. Do we really need such pricks on these threads?

I bet this guy won't even get an entry to Darlin Darlin, let alone pick a girl from there. What a wanker.[/QUOTE]The guy is totally right about Darlin prices. But if guys want to pay it. Go ahead. Just as long as the guy know the going rate in Phnom Penh for getting a girl out of the bar for short time. I have only been come into PP for seven years. Angeles City is my expertise. That place has gone price crazy. 20 US for long time from 2000 to 2008. Creep up to $40 two years ago. Now $60. Plus tip of $10. Plus lady drinks are $7. That is what most bars on Fields are now charging.

[QUOTE=Mikem488;2201375]That place has gone price crazy. 20 US for long time from 2000 to 2008. Creep up to $40 two years ago. Now $60. Plus tip of $10. Plus lady drinks are $7. That is what most bars on Fields are now charging.[/QUOTE]My dear friend. Back in 2000 there was no Facebook. The first iPhone was launched in 2007. The was no Plasma TV / OLED screens. There was no X-Box. Google Maps was launched in 2005. Should I go on?

Get with the times. These girls have aspirations. And the rate of inflation in under-developed markets is always far higher and rapid than developed markets. That said, conventional laws of economics do not apply to price of pussy.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2200748]Some BM on the Bangkok, Thailand forum wrote about a fair skinned Cambodian girl who spoke impeccable English (with an OZ accent). Could be her? Matches the other parts of your description.

Keep the thread informed.[/QUOTE]So I managed to follow-up and the girl I mentioned in Honeypot Bar is English born and bred. Fallen on hard times and working as a hostess while waiting for some action on her future.

Chatted to the managers who also said that occassionally female backpackers come in as customers and bar fine some of the Khmer hostesses. So it's a two way street. !

Arrived from sihanoukville with van for 12 dollars journey supposed to be 4-5 hours but becomes 7 in total. Check in the same hotel nana like 8 years ago next to golden sorya mall. Go have some dinner and walk at newly renovated GSM saw some freelancers sitting around mall next to martini bar and other places some of them was not so bad looking some of them horible (seems ice done his damage). I sit order beer get some eye contacts from freelancers but my plan was first walk at all bars streets, look around, check riverside freelancers and what phnom (I always was curious how is cheap girls look like here) I walk all way from street 172 to 136 after 130 and 118 look some girls sitting next to the bars outside it was 8. 30 pm so not busy time yet. Later I check freelancers at riverside they was sitting and walking but all ugly I would even fuck them for free. Later I walk to street 104 look some girls sitting outside but didint go inside. I reach street 94 near what phnom (if I remember correctly) saw 3-4 freelancers one was so so looking. She see me and said want boom boom? I ask how much she said 25 dollar 1 hour I know it was to much but didint said nothing and walk away. I go inside what phnom pay 1 dollar and look temple from inside I saw more girls is standing around what phnom near white fences who covered all temple area. I go outside temple and walk all the way around to look girls in total next to the temple was maybe 8 girls spread around. I saw other girl I offered her 10 dollar for short time she said no 20 I didint said nothing and walk futher other girl she was cute face girl I come to her and said boom boom 10 dollar she not speak any english and seems not understand me, I show 10 on my fingers she said no and show 20 I show 15 she said no. I start walk and she call me back said ok. We catch motorbike for 1 dollar and back hotel the girl was looking little bit shy and innocent face (I was suprised she was standing at place like what phnom) on google translator I ask how old is she? She was 19 years old. She was thinking maybe I not pay her money and said show money. I show here money and said boom boom after money. She relaxed and become more calm. We shower and jump on bed she start wank for me and I get hard I push her head down for blowjob but she look at me with her innocent face and said no no. I don't mind this time. I fuck here me on the top after doggy style till I cum. I give her 15 dollar and 1 dollar for motorbike she said with her funny english accent (fank you) . I make couple photos of her and selfie together and I let her go. It was good start at phnom penh.

Around midnight go out have some food order one beer and was waiting my food saw one cute freelancer passing by I call her. Hey can I have your number? She said why we not talk now? I said because I am waiting my food now. She said ok I will comeback later to you. I said ok. They was preparing food so long so seems she was boring to stand and wait me till food come so she comeback and ask can she sit near. I told ok and offer her buy a beer. She drink beer my food arrive she wish me enjoy my meal. I finish my food have some conversation with her: she is 25 years old come from some province near siam reap. I finish beer and said for her lets go for short time? She said lets go. I said 20 dollar ok? She count with 25 I said no 20 I always pay 20 here no more. She ask how many times I have been phnom phen before I told 11 times (smile) she said but I never seen you here before. I told her I never seen you also.

We comeback hotel shower she start BBBJ I get hard.She put condom on and I start fuck her she on the top, she rides hard but I could finish (because I just fuck other girl 2 hours before) I take condom of and she start to wank me for a while but I could cum anyway. I make some photos of her give her 20 dollar and we walk out together from hotel I say bye for her jump on motorbike and go check street 136 bars not so many people but many girls drink one beer and left to pantoon disco its was weekday so no entry fee order one beer walk around collect one number. (saw same few freelancers inside who was at daytime at sorya mall seems at night time they rise the price because they at pantoon (smile). Drink beer and left don't want any girls tonight anymore.

Awesome report!

How do I find this temple on Google maps?

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2202375]Arrived from sihanoukville with van for 12 dollars journey supposed to be 4-5 hours but becomes 7 in total. Check in the same hotel nana like 8 years ago next to golden sorya mall. Go have some dinner and walk at newly renovated GSM saw some freelancers sitting around mall next to martini bar and other places some of them was not so bad looking some of them horible (seems ice done his damage). I sit order beer get some eye contacts from freelancers but my plan was first walk at all bars streets, look around, check riverside freelancers and what phnom (I always was curious how is cheap girls look like here) I walk all way from street 172 to 136 after 130 and 118 look some girls sitting next to the bars outside it was 8. 30 pm so not busy time yet. Later I check freelancers at riverside they was sitting and walking but all ugly I would even fuck them for free. Later I walk to street 104 look some girls sitting outside but didint go inside. I reach street 94 near what phnom (if I remember correctly) saw 3-4 freelancers one was so so looking..[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your Reports!

Can you give an Info If Nana Hotel charges joiner Fee? And how guest friendly they are?

Looks interesting for my next stay on PP.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2202422]Around midnight go out have some food order one beer and was waiting my food saw one cute freelancer passing by I call her. ...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the very good reports on PNH and SHV.

It's good to see details. Prices asked, negotiated prices, girl numbers, numbers of girls you found attractive, locations etc. Also the attached photos are welcome.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2202455]Thanks for your Reports!

Can you give an Info If Nana Hotel charges joiner Fee? And how guest friendly they are?

Looks interesting for my next stay on PP.[/QUOTE]They are girlsfriendly and no joiner fee. Its a budget hotel I pay for 3 nights 65 dollars.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2202425]Awesome report!

How do I find this temple on Google maps?[/QUOTE]Just text: wat phnom phnom penh and you will see big green area or you can search for sunway hotel because it very near temple also. Just walk around the temple you will see girls standing.

Seems grab app is good to go at phnom pehn like example can get taxi from golden sorya mall to airport for 28000 riel (7 dollar) or tuk tuk for 4 dollars. Also have motorbikes just not so many yet.

Awesome! Thanks Pokeris! Pass app seems to have similar rates so you can download both and see which is cheaper at the time of purchase.

Given you user name, Pokeris, you might be the guy to ask. Do you know where there is a good place to play Texas Holdem Poker in Phnom Penh?

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2202577]Seems grab app is good to go at phnom pehn like example can get taxi from golden sorya mall to airport for 28000 riel (7 dollar) or tuk tuk for 4 dollars. Also have motorbikes just not so many yet.[/QUOTE]

Take a grab app tuk tuk from sorya golden mall to street 252 for 4400 riel (1. 1 dollar) . Stop little bit futher and walk 50 metres to masa 252. Tuk tuk drivers standing near masa say me massage and start following me inside. I said I know myself where I am going rise the hand and show him stop. He smiles and walk away. Go upstairs turn left walk a bit and turn right. The guy inside say me sit.
On sofa. The other cambodian 2 guys also was choosing ladies. Maybe was 20 girls behind glass looking between 5-7 of beauty range. Girls was smiling and waving to me. I saw just 2-3 girls I like. I choose girl with number 42. The guy call her and she was rushing out to me.

The guy told me pay here I said first I go speak with girl. She come out from room with glass and I catch her in carridor and said Hello, boom boom 25 dollar ok? She said 30. I said 25 again and she quickly agree. I walk to the man inside the room with sofa and give him 7 dollar. Girl take my hand and we walk upstairs to the room. The room was ok, aircondition inside, clean, have toilet, cold shower. The girl speak english so we speak and joke little bit. She has cute face and really great body, flat belly and perfect big tits. After we shower and jump at bed. She was great, start to kiss my neck, nipples and body and go down, lick my balls and after start to suck my dick gently she was good on it, she allowed me to suck her nipples and play with her tits. I put condom and she was really wet already she ride me for a while, after we change to doggy style, after I on the top. She grab my ass with hands and push my dick so deep inside her seems she enjoyed sex also. She makes me cum fast because she was really great!! After I clean myself at shower she done same also. I left 25 dollar on her bag. She not rush go out and we chat for 10-15 minutes more. This girl have great attitude and was friendly. I enjoy time at this place and will comeback again. I go out and was raining strong catch tuk tuk for 2 dollars back to nana hotel. I will add how room looks like at masa 252 if somebody curious to see. Masa 252 opening times is 12 pm-12am

I'm angry I didn't get the information with the 7 dollar for room earlier.

When I where there first Time Last December I paid Them the required 15.

But also had an great experience with an Khmer Teenie which I paid 60 dollar for two shots.

Was great intimate session with nice DFK.

Walk all the way from sorya mall to girlie bars at street 136 and 130 have couple of beers again many girls around but not so many costumers, some girls bad looking I not understand how someone can pay them 40-60 dollar even some golden sorya or wat phnom girls looking better. Later walk on riverside have couple ugly freelancers. Around 21.00 pm reached wat phnom this time they have 7 girls on street 94 near temple and 1-2 ladyboys. Couple cambodian costumers on motorbikes try to make deal with girls. I pass all girls just one was looking allright, but I decided to go check futher next around temple I walk all way around saw 1 girl next white fence and other 2 sitting opposite street they say Hello, for me and wave but they wasnt my type. I comeback at street 94 and saw one cute looking girl she just come here she was standing with other freelancer I say Hello, for she, she said me back massage I said her 10 dollar boom boom 1 hour ok? She not understand me look at other freelancer she translate for her. She said no 20 I said no 10 but she said no again. I said ok 15 and other girl translate to her. She accept 15 and said 5 dollar is short time hotel. I said I stay near sorya mall and we go here (translator) girl said its far and girl don't want go. I said I will give her 1 dollar extra for motorbike and she said ok. We take tuk tuk for 2 dollars back hotel. I ask how old is she on google translator she told me 19 she was small and petite girl. We showered and just that time I recognised she is on something her eyes was red and she giggling everytime probably she was on weed because ice girls look diffrent. Anyway she make me bare back blowjob after I fuck her diffrent positions till I cum. Make couple of photos of her give her 16 dollar. She said thank you and I let her go.

I found some very cheap hotels in Sangkat Chrouy Changva and Sangkat Tonle Basak. Tuk tuks are only a couple bucks from these areas to city center. Would it be unwise to stay in these areas?

Around 12 am go out sit at bar near GSM. Saw one good looking freelancer with a friend. I invite them sit at my table and bought them draught beer for 0. 75 dollar. The younger girl she was 21 years old, speak english just little bit so older her friend was my translator between us. We drink some beer older girl start to tell me sad stories about here life and how everybody bad around here and drugs everywhere (she was on ice but I could care less because I don't plan take her) The younger girl was allright smiles everytime and was looking happy at first was little bit shy, but after couple of beers she get better. Older girl said she can't sleep properly at nights so drink 5-6 tablets vallium every night and said if I have sleeping problems she can give me some tablets. I said if I need I can buy myself at pharmacy. Later I said for younger girl lets go with me I give you 20 for short time. She happy accept it. She speaks something with older girl in khimer languages and older girl ask can I give her 5 dollars from her friend money and after pay her friend just 15 dollar because she don't have money for food (maybe for ice). I ask younger girl she is ok with it? She said yes it ok. I give 5 dollar for older girl she said me thank you and we left. Comeback room have a shower and jump on bed. She has nice looking body and big tits make me BBBJ and fuck well in 20 minutes I manage to cum. I give her 15 dollar and text her on google translator if she want she can sleep here with me. She said ok but after 30 minutes she want go out have one shoot of vodka with her friend. I said ok. She comeback not after 30 minutes but after 1 hour and we go sleep around 2. 30 pm wake up about 9. 30 am I said for her lets boom boom I give you 15 dollar more or not boom boom and you can go. She said ok boom boom. I fuck her again cum pay 15 and let her go. So in total she cost me 35 dollar for long time.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2202623]Awesome! Thanks Pokeris! Pass app seems to have similar rates so you can download both and see which is cheaper at the time of purchase.

Given you user name, Pokeris, you might be the guy to ask. Do you know where there is a good place to play Texas Holdem Poker in Phnom Penh?[/QUOTE]Hehe I don't play anymore its my old nickname from youth when I used to play cards. But maybe you can try naga world casino at phnom phen for poker and also for to find expensive girls.

Take motorbike for 1 dollar from golden sorya mall to wat phnom around 13.00 pm this time near temple don't have any freelancers just tourist around, many tuks tuks. I walk from wat phnom next to the street 90 near supercups coffe have some massages places advertising massage 6 dollar I didint check them and walk more on street (France st 47) till I reach okhna oum (st 80) if somebody want find this street easy just google: eurasia fitness club (its on the same street) this street have 3 places for boom boom girls. Its easy to see girls sitting on chairs and when you pass by they call you massage I ask one girl how much? She said 20 dollar massage + boom boom she was ugly so I don't said nothing and walk away other places near on this street have also ugly girls. From this street I reached preah sisowath quay street. You can walk left or right on this steet both ways near have local boom boom places and massage for 10000 riel (maybe 10 diffrent place in total) I walk both ways and girls called me for massage I saw one girl so so looking maybe 5 in a range of beauty. I come to her and said boom boom 10 ok? She said 20. I said 10 again she said no. I count with 15 and she said no. I walk away and she call me back. She agree on 15 dollar and we go to her wodden hut (it was looking even worst than chicken farm hut at sihanoukville) dirty inside empty packets of condoms girl turn on the fan and start search for condom I said I have mine don't look. I take of just my shorts and boxers. She undress all. Wank me for a while till I get hard I push her head for blowjob but she refused I don't want lie myself on dirty bed so I jump on the top on girl. Shag her for a while it was so hot at that wooden small room I was sweating a lot after 5 minutes of fucking I give up because I knew I could cum. I give her 20 dollars and get 5 dollars change and walk away. I don't regret I visited this place because I like adventures sometimes, maybe I overpay 5 dollars but my point was just check it like adventure. My opinion you can get much better looking girls at wat phnom or golden sorya mall and this massage places its worth to visit if you are adventorous like me. I defenitely not comeback anymore even somebody offer free shag here. Girls not good looking here (at least at places I checked) I catch motorbike for 1. 5 dollar back to golden sorya mall have couple of beers look for some freelancers but nothing worth at this time.

I go out around 21.00 and have plan go look at what phnom area for freelancers, but before decided walk around GSM look for some freelancers I start walking and nothing new same 3-4 drug addicted ugly girls or few girls I fucked before. And almost I reached pantoon disco I saw really cute face girl tall very slim body (she was between 7. 5-8 at beauty range) I thought maybe its ladyboy at first but when I come to her and we start talk I understand she is a girl. She speak some english, I offer her a beer and we sit at some bar have a drink and chat little bit. She is 25 years old no kids have really nice attitude I offer her 20 dollar for short time and she quickly accepted without any bargain. We come back my hotel I take quick shower and sit on bed was watching tv. She was at shower much longer clean herself nicely after she spray some perfume from her bag on herself. She jump at bed and start BBBJ slowly up and down and licking my balls, she was really good at it, (maybe its best blowjob I get from this cambodian trip so far) she suck for 7-10 minutes till I get really hard I give her condom and she put it on my dick. When I come into her she was already very wet I fuck her hard me on the top she was moaning and enjoy it also. She push my dick so deep and touching me everywhere and kissing my neck I could last long and cum after 5 minutes. She get upset I cum so fast and she didint finish herself. (but who cares she need make me happy not me) she said let do it again I told her you see my dick don't have any power yet. We lie on bed for 10 minutes after she go have a p. ee and me shower myself. When she was sitting on the toilet I come close to her she pull me closer to her and start suck my dick for a while but I could get very hard anyway. I left 20 dollars + 2 dollar tip on her bag. After we make couple of selfies together also I photo here alone. She gave me her number (if some senior member here at phnom phen and need good freelancer contact I will share.) she stay with me 15-20 minutes more we have some jokes and I let her go.

Very nice reports, this give me lot of ideas to go, after the planned trip to mada.

Thanks.

Thanks for your post. I am an old Cambodia hand. And enoyed your report. Now I am curious and would be very thankful if you would share contact info. You can PM me. I wlil be back in a few months time and am always looking for that special girl.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2202990]I go out around 21.00 and have plan go look at what phnom area for freelancers, but before decided walk around GSM look for some freelancers I start walking and nothing new same 3-4 drug addicted ugly girls or few girls I fucked before. And almost I reached pantoon disco I saw really cute face girl tall very slim body (she was between 7. 5-8 at beauty range) I thought maybe its ladyboy at first but when I come to her and we start talk I understand she is a girl. She speak some english, I offer her a beer and we sit at some bar have a drink and chat little bit. She is 25 years old no kids have really nice attitude I offer her 20 dollar for short time and she quickly accepted without any bargain. We come back my hotel I take quick shower and sit on bed was watching tv. She was at shower much longer clean herself nicely after she spray some perfume from her bag on herself. She jump at bed and start BBBJ slowly up and down and licking my balls, she was really good at it, (maybe its best blowjob I get from this cambodian trip so far) she suck for 7-10 minutes till I get really hard I give her condom and she put it on my dick. When I come into her she was already very wet I fuck her hard me on the top she was moaning and enjoy it also. She push my dick so deep and touching me everywhere and kissing my neck I could last long and cum after 5 minutes. She get upset I cum so fast and she didint finish herself. (but who cares she need make me happy not me) she said let do it again I told her you see my dick don't have any power yet. We lie on bed for 10 minutes after she go have a p. ee and me shower myself. When she was sitting on the toilet I come close to her she pull me closer to her and start suck my dick for a while but I could get very hard anyway. I left 20 dollars + 2 dollar tip on her bag. After we make couple of selfies together also I photo here alone. She gave me her number (if some senior member here at phnom phen and need good freelancer contact I will share.) she stay with me 15-20 minutes more we have some jokes and I let her go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2203004]Very nice reports, this give me lot of ideas to go, after the planned trip to mada.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Madagascar is great mate!! I been before also. Girls are cheap as chips.

Was not planning take more girl that night just went around sorya golden mall to have some food, opposite heart of darkness club at bar 3 girls was sitting and they call me. One of them was no so bad looking. I sit at table next to them and invite one girl sit with me, she come I offer her a beer but she said better coca cola. We sit drink and chat she has good english 28 years old. We make conversation and she ask what are you doing here at phnom phen? I said I am sex tourist and laugh. She said oh its good. I said maybe its not good today because I have girls before and I don't have power anymore. She said don't worry I give you power. I offer her 20 dollar for short time and she said ok. We comeback hotel have a shower and jump on bed. She start from BBBJ, she was good on it and make me hard. I put condom and fuck her for a while diffrent positions but could cum. I take of the condom and she start suck me again I take her head and push it hard to my dick she was moving up and down after 5-8 minutes hard sucking I manage to cum her into the mouth she wasnt ready for it jump quickly and run to the toilet to spit it. Later she give me her facebook, I make couple photos of her give her 20 dollar and she go out for pantoon disco.

Check out from hotel 12.00 pm, left my bag at reception and catch grab tuk tuk. Arrived 12.20 pm (seems to early) was just 7 girls inside behind glass I ask why not so many girls? He said after 15 minutes. I said ok I will comeback later. Go at nearest restaurant order one beer and decided to wait till 13.00 pm. Comeback again around 13.00 now have maybe 12-14 girls inside but much less than my first visit. (I could wait more because I need catch my fly later today) I look the girls just 1-2 was my taste. I choose number 32 girl she is cambodian her name is pov. I said again for guy inside I want speak with girl first. I go carridor and wait next to the door she comeback from room with a glass. I said Hi for her and ask her name. After I said boom boom 25 ok? She said 30. I said no 25 and she quickly agree. I pay guy at the room 7 dollar again and we walk with girl to the room. She said she is 27 or 28 years old but she looks like 30-32 maybe speaks little bit english her look maybe (6-6. 5 at beauty range) behind the glass she was looking better for me. We shower I lie on the bed she done me BBBJ still I get hard I fuck her diffrent positions but could cum. I take a condom of and she start wank for me and lick my balls but I could cum anyway. I put other condom and start fuck her doggy style after 10 minutes of hard fucking I give up because I know I can't cum. I pay her 25 dollar and left spend just 30 minutes here this time. Seems best time is come at masa like after 2 pm because the time I come was less girls than before on later time. I comeback my hotel pick up my bag from reception order grab taxi for 7 dollars to airport from nana hotel. Arrived airport pay 7 dollar for taxi give tip 1 dollar in left cambodian currency. Waiting my fly now.

My thoughts about phnom phen its change from last time I been here 8 years ago, the quality of freelancers is worst now and don't have so many like before. It was good for 3-4 days stay I have fun, but I not sure I will comeback here soon again. Have much better quality girls for same money in diffrent asian countries.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2203163]My thoughts about phnom phen its change from last time I been here 8 years ago, the quality of freelancers is worst now and don't have so many like before. It was good for 3-4 days stay I have fun, but I not sure I will comeback here soon again. Have much better quality girls for same money in diffrent asian countries.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all, even if you will not come back, its interesting to know that with some luck and search its still possible to find good gems there, have a good flight back, see you.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2203163]My thoughts about phnom phen its change from last time I been here 8 years ago, the quality of freelancers is worst now and don't have so many like before. It was good for 3-4 days stay I have fun, but I not sure I will comeback here soon again. Have much better quality girls for same money in diffrent asian countries.[/QUOTE]Again, thanks for the excellent reports. You seem to have the right attitude and so get good results. Tell them what you pay then walk away.

It would have been interesting to read your reactions to the hostess bar scene but I suspect you avoided them because there would have been far too much time-wasting and scamming.

And I agree completely with your overall assessment of Phnom Penh and Cambodia as an interesting sextourist destination. That all ended many, many years ago. If you want pretty girls go to Vietnam: if you want guaranteed action go to Thailand. Of course there are some lovely girls in Cambodia, but they are not prostitutes.

I was considering Bangkok or Angeles city but I hear they cut your arm off if you smoke a little bud. Plus I want happy pizza and working girls hehe.

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2203470]Again, thanks for the excellent reports. You seem to have the right attitude and so get good results. Tell them what you pay then walk away.

It would have been interesting to read your reactions to the hostess bar scene but I suspect you avoided them because there would have been far too much time-wasting and scamming.

And I agree completely with your overall assessment of Phnom Penh and Cambodia as an interesting sextourist destination. That all ended many, many years ago. If you want pretty girls go to Vietnam: if you want guaranteed action go to Thailand. Of course there are some lovely girls in Cambodia, but they are not prostitutes.[/QUOTE]

Back in the great city of Phnom Penh and as usual, with my late night arrival, I decided to do the convenient thing and stay at Naga World and do Darling Darling for my first night. No fuss, since I did e-visa, it was ultra-quick through immigration and my bag was waiting for me when I got out. Much, much quicker than in the USA And I have Global Entry privileges!

Stayed in Naga 2, which is new and nicer, but still, there are NO non-smoking rooms and my room did have a little smell to it, for those who are allergic, you'll need to stay elsewhere.

Walked through the casino and thought about playing, but decided I didn't want to waste anytime.

I went in DD and without looking around, I went directly to the bar for a beer-I was dying of thirst. After gulping down the first one, I ordered another and looked around to see that the place was not super-packed at 11:15. But already, there were a few lookers. The girl right next to me was nice and we started to talk a little when of course, a stunner walked by. Even worse, she was part of the pack of the girl I was talking to. Unfortunately, I've never been able to just drop a girl and go to another one in the same group-just too rude. Yeah, yeah, I know it happens all the time, but I can't bring myself to hurt a girl's feelings like that. So instead, I pleasantly ended my conversation and just decided to walk around. Everyone said it was off-season, so not crazy packed, but plenty of great girls and a few stunners. I found one standing by herself and started to talk to her. Long story short, she kept on insisting $150 for ST, a big jump from last year's prices of $100. After awhile, convinced her to do $200 for LT and off we went.

When she took off her clothes, I was very, very happy. Really a perfect body. Slim, big be cup, firm all over. We rinsed off separately and went to bed and went at it. And at it. And at it. I don't know if I was dehydrated or what, but it took forever, which I think was exhausting her, but finally after many, many positions, got the deed one and then after resting for awhile and relaxing, the big surprise, she said she had to go to her mother. WTF? And give me a break about the mother story. I gently argued a little, then gave in and gave her $100. And she countered with $150, her original asking price. Finally, I agreed if I got some pictures and let her go. FYI, her name was XingXing.

Oh well, it was day 1.

Doc.

[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2204913]Back in the great city of Phnom Penh and as usual, with my late night arrival, I decided to do the convenient thing and stay at Naga World and do Darling Darling for my first night. No fuss, since I did e-visa, it was ultra-quick through immigration and my bag was waiting for me when I got out. Much, much quicker than in the USA And I have Global Entry privileges!

Stayed in Naga 2, which is new and nicer, but still, there are NO non-smoking rooms and my room did have a little smell to it, for those who are allergic, you'll need to stay elsewhere.

Walked through the casino and thought about playing, but decided I didn't want to waste anytime.

I went in DD and without looking around, I went directly to the bar for a beer-I was dying of thirst. After gulping down the first one, I ordered another and looked around to see that the place was not super-packed at 11:15. But already, there were a few lookers. The girl right next to me was nice and we started to talk a little when of course, a stunner walked by. Even worse, she was part of the pack of the girl I was talking to. Unfortunately, I've never been able to just drop a girl and go to another one in the same group-just too rude. Yeah, yeah, I know it happens all the time, but I can't bring myself to hurt a girl's feelings like that. So instead, I pleasantly ended my conversation and just decided to walk around. Everyone said it was off-season, so not crazy packed, but plenty of great girls and a few stunners. I found one standing by herself and started to talk to her. Long story short, she kept on insisting $150 for ST, a big jump from last year's prices of $100. After awhile, convinced her to do $200 for LT and off we went.

When she took off her clothes, I was very, very happy. Really a perfect body. Slim, big be cup, firm all over. We rinsed off separately and went to bed and went at it. And at it. And at it. I don't know if I was dehydrated or what, but it took forever, which I think was exhausting her, but finally after many, many positions, got the deed one and then after resting for awhile and relaxing, the big surprise, she said she had to go to her mother. WTF? And give me a break about the mother story. I gently argued a little, then gave in and gave her $100. And she countered with $150, her original asking price. Finally, I agreed if I got some pictures and let her go. FYI, her name was XingXing.

Oh well, it was day 1.

Doc.[/QUOTE]Good report Doc. I hope the people complaining about prices and abusing those who pay $100 to a "Cambodian Farm Girl" are reading this. Trust me word will get around about what you paid and there will be more girls willing to go with you.

Also, if you want to get XingXing again, then go for it and this time she WILL stay LT. And she will take $200 or even less if you treat her nicely and take her out to wine and dine. It's how the girls operate.

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2203470]Again, thanks for the excellent reports. You seem to have the right attitude and so get good results. Tell them what you pay then walk away.

It would have been interesting to read your reactions to the hostess bar scene but I suspect you avoided them because there would have been far too much time-wasting and scamming.

And I agree completely with your overall assessment of Phnom Penh and Cambodia as an interesting sextourist destination. That all ended many, many years ago. If you want pretty girls go to Vietnam: if you want guaranteed action go to Thailand. Of course there are some lovely girls in Cambodia, but they are not prostitutes.[/QUOTE]I didint try bar girls at phnom penh because it not worth spend money on lady drinks, negotiate prices, get many refuses till find right girl for a right price. I think bar girls at phnom penh is overpriced and some of them look worst than freelancers. When I read people paying 100-150 dollars for sex at cambodia it makes me laugh. Did they have diamonds pussies? Did they give any better service than 15-25 dollar freelancers? People just don't understand how to monger right and spend money wise!!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2204997]I didint try bar girls at phnom penh because it not worth spend money on lady drinks, negotiate prices, get many refuses till find right girl for a right price. I think bar girls at phnom penh is overpriced and some of them look worst than freelancers. When I read people paying 100-150 dollars for sex at cambodia it makes me laugh. Did they have diamonds pussies? Did they give any better service than 15-25 dollar freelancers? People just don't understand how to monger right and spend money wise!![/QUOTE]Same difference between riding a Toyota vs riding a Ferrari. Both will get you to your destination. Different customer segments. There is a market for everyone. To each his own.

I have nothing against people who like to play in the $25 FL segment. More power to you. I am sure there are people paying $5 for pussy in Cambodia who would be looking at the $25 clientele and laughing their heads off. Its all perspective.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2205050]Same difference between riding a Toyota vs riding a Ferrari. Both will get you to your destination. Different customer segments. There is a market for everyone. To each his own.

I have nothing against people who like to play in the $25 FL segment. More power to you. I am sure there are people paying $5 for pussy in Cambodia who would be looking at the $25 clientele and laughing their heads off. Its all perspective.[/QUOTE]You can't buy ferrari for same price like toyota, but you can negotiate pussy cheaper than for 100-200 dollar at Cambodia just not need overpay. Like example I fuck freelancer from GSM mall for 20 dollar short time, after I let her go she told me she is going pantoon disco and defenitely will be asking more than 20 dollars for short time at this place. If same pussy is available for 20 dollar why I should pay 3-5 times more? Just need to use common sense. If you pay more for
same pussy it not gives you better service most of the times.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2205082]You can't buy ferrari for same price like toyota, but you can negotiate pussy cheaper than for 100-200 dollar at Cambodia just not need overpay. Like example I fuck freelancer from GSM mall for 20 dollar short time, after I let her go she told me she is going pantoon disco and defenitely will be asking more than 20 dollars for short time at this place. If same pussy is available for 20 dollar why I should pay 3-5 times more? Just need to use common sense. If you pay more for
same pussy it not gives you better service most of the times.[/QUOTE]Some weeks ago I was in Pontoon. Quit with girls and almost only 4-5 rating girls. A few hot ones dancing together but totally not interested in any man. At the bar I start talking with a looker and offer a drink. After some flirting she tell me want to go ST for 100 dollar. I politely thank her, tell her to find another customer, wish her good luck and walk away. She didn't offer cheaper. I we all agree with 100 dollar short time, then next year the price will be 130 dollar and so on. I never pay more than 50 dollar ST and 70 LT and they're happy with that. It's also regular price at most river side bars. GSM girls I pay less.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2205082]You can't buy ferrari for same price like toyota, but you can negotiate pussy cheaper than for 100-200 dollar at Cambodia just not need overpay. Like example I fuck freelancer from GSM mall for 20 dollar short time, after I let her go she told me she is going pantoon disco and defenitely will be asking more than 20 dollars for short time at this place. If same pussy is available for 20 dollar why I should pay 3-5 times more? Just need to use common sense. If you pay more for
same pussy it not gives you better service most of the times.[/QUOTE]Good on you. You should be thanking people who pay more and effectively subsidize the cost of pussy for you. LMAO. The difference is in the vehicle as you rightly pointed out. I do not pick drunk chicks from Pontoon at 4 am. I usually pick from the girly bars or from DD and I am back in my room and balls deep before midnight, And I prefer LT.

As I said, we are customers belonging to completely different segments and there is a market for every one of us. And the twain shall never meet.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2205124]Good on you. You should be thanking people who pay more and effectively subsidize the cost of pussy for you. LMAO. The difference is in the vehicle as you rightly pointed out. I do not pick drunk chicks from Pontoon at 4 am. I usually pick from the girly bars or from DD and I am back in my room and balls deep before midnight, And I prefer LT.

As I said, we are customers belonging to completely different segments and there is a market for every one of us. And the twain shall never meet.[/QUOTE]The people who pay more they increase price for everybody bit by bit and market becomes more expensive so is nothing to thanking about!!

Is it me or are Khmer girl's bodies much different then their Thai friends? I noticed every girl (even the 'older' ones) have rock hard bodies. A Thai girl body seems to get quickly worse with the years but every time I had a girl here in PP I'm surprised by how firm they are.

I stopped by for a few days again here and I do prefer other countries for fun. The younger girls are shy as hell in bed and hardly know what to do- even if they had a baby so you would think they know how it works but I feel it's hard to get decent nights in bed with a lot of the girls as they just don't seem to be very active (the starfish kind). It's all fun in the bars but usually when back in the room they are still super sweet but the sex is just terrible. In none other country I feel it's as bad as it's here. Maybe I shouldn't go for the innocent young newcomers but then in Thailand and Indo and Ph I feel it isn't as bad as here. Ah well at least the bar area is still enjoyable but the problem with all bars being so close together is that after visiting a few times you can't walk by the bars without getting a bunch of line messages why I am 'with other lady'.

Blanq, say what you will about different markets for everyone but Doc essentially paid $150 for an ST. In Cambodia. That is absolute bullshit. Your comment about word getting around will make him more popular. No shit! When girls hear about that episode, and they surely will he will have to beat them off with a stick. $200 bucks LT. In Cambodia. Jesus wept. And no there are no longer 5 dollar fucks available in Cambodia unless you are a local living in the sticks.

SE.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2205209]Blanq, say what you will about different markets for everyone but Doc essentially paid $150 for an ST. In Cambodia. That is absolute bullshit. Your comment about word getting around will make him more popular. No shit! When girls hear about that episode, and they surely will he will have to beat them off with a stick. $200 bucks LT. In Cambodia. Jesus wept. And no there are no longer 5 dollar fucks available in Cambodia unless you are a local living in the sticks.

SE.[/QUOTE]Well said mate!! Soon Cambodia will become more expensive for mongering than first world countries if everybody start pay ridiculous prices.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2205209]Blanq, say what you will about different markets for everyone but Doc essentially paid $150 for an ST. In Cambodia. That is absolute bullshit. Your comment about word getting around will make him more popular. No shit! When girls hear about that episode, and they surely will he will have to beat them off with a stick. $200 bucks LT. In Cambodia. Jesus wept. And no there are no longer 5 dollar fucks available in Cambodia unless you are a local living in the sticks.SE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2205373]Well said mate!! Soon Cambodia will become more expensive for mongering than first world countries if everybody start pay ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]Say you you both will, but this how it is going to be. People will pay what they want. You don't like it, too bad. And if you want to educate mongers about impact of overpaying try reasoning with the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans.

Jesus wept! Who's Jesus?

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2205398]Say you you both will, but this how it is going to be. People will pay what they want. You don't like it, too bad. And if you want to educate mongers about impact of overpaying try reasoning with the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans.

Jesus wept! Who's Jesus?[/QUOTE]I just suggest I do not educate anyone. If people shy or scare bargain with bi. tches and are paying stupid amount they ask is totally up to them. I bet after that girls brag each other how they meet silly foreigners who pay 100-200 dollar for them.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2205454]I just suggest I do not educate anyone. If people shy or scare bargain with bi. tches and are paying stupid amount they ask is totally up to them. I bet after that girls brag each other how they meet silly foreigners who pay 100-200 dollar for them.[/QUOTE]I would rather be remembered as a silly foreigner than a cheap charlie.

As I said before, we are on very different planes my friend. I wish you well.

I'm a little shocked reading the donations and I'm usually the guy overpaying. But when I was in PP a year a half ago I found a hot girl in a beer bar (I know that's hard to believe but she was a needle in the haystack) and after a couple hours of pool games she told me "$40 I go with you. I like youuuuuuu" without ever discussing ST or LT. She slept over and wanted more sex in the morning. I ended up seeing her on a regular basis (every day or every other day) for a coupe weeks and the deal never changed. I'm going back early Feb and will be interested if she's still around. DD sounds like a good place for hot girls if you don't want or have time to do the legwork of checking out all the other bars. And if you can stay awake later than me LOL.

Quick one guys. Besides recovering and lounging beside the pool and the obligatory sightseeing what is there to do during the day in PP. (beside more mongering) LOL.

Pretty active sort of guy so a beach side location is more my cup of tea but have got 12 nights to kill around June / July next year (yeah I know I plan a long way off) so what's on offer during the day?

Or would you suggest 6 nts in PP and 6 nts in Sihanouk?

Coming from HCM. Thinking either PP or Phuket? Ideas? Friend of mine saying Vung Tau but quantity and mongering options seem a bit limited here?

NI.

Based on your description, I would pick Phuket. You can do some island visits, mountain hiking, etc. During the day. But then again, I was only in PP on the way through one day so am no expert.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2205533]Quick one guys. Besides recovering and lounging beside the pool and the obligatory sightseeing what is there to do during the day in PP. (beside more mongering) LOL.

Pretty active sort of guy so a beach side location is more my cup of tea but have got 12 nights to kill around June / July next year (yeah I know I plan a long way off) so what's on offer during the day?

Or would you suggest 6 nts in PP and 6 nts in Sihanouk?

Coming from HCM. Thinking either PP or Phuket? Ideas? Friend of mine saying Vung Tau but quantity and mongering options seem a bit limited here?

NI.[/QUOTE]

Fuck all to do during the day in PP. If you are hankering for beachside forget Cambodia. Sihanoukville has officially changed it's name to Chinaville. Place is absolutely fucked. I lived there for 8 years and left 3 months ago. If you re coming from Saigon, why not Pattaya? Plenty of options there and closer than Phuket. VT is another option but mongering is not nearly so simple as PP or Pattaya. For a newbie it can be a bit of a hassle and relatively expensive. Not a problem if you are on the type of budget the allows for $150 STs though.

If you do go to VT let us know what you think. I may have a look in December for the first time in 15 years!

SE.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2205533]Quick one guys. Besides recovering and lounging beside the pool and the obligatory sightseeing what is there to do during the day in PP. (beside more mongering) LOL.

Pretty active sort of guy so a beach side location is more my cup of tea but have got 12 nights to kill around June / July next year (yeah I know I plan a long way off) so what's on offer during the day?

Or would you suggest 6 nts in PP and 6 nts in Sihanouk?

Coming from HCM. Thinking either PP or Phuket? Ideas? Friend of mine saying Vung Tau but quantity and mongering options seem a bit limited here?

NI.[/QUOTE]Lots to do besides mongering, at least if you are a first timer. If one lives there all this might sound like an absolute waste of time, but there is a novelty factor for a first timer.

1. Snooky and Koh Rong.

2. Kep Beach and Kampot.

3. Siem Reap and Battambang. Prasat Preah Vihar. Banteay Chhmar.

4. From Phnom Penh as base, Killing Fields. Kompong Cham and Kratie. Stung Treng and Ban Lung.

Read more on the net about all these places.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2205533]
Coming from HCM. Thinking either PP or Phuket? Ideas? Friend of mine saying Vung Tau but quantity and mongering options seem a bit limited here?[/QUOTE]Most guys I know don't go to pp more than 3 or 4 days max. The scene there is small and the number of hot girls there are few. I enjoy my short trips to pp.

Other obvious options with a MUCH larger hobby scene and things to do in the day time are pattaya, Bangkok, and Jakarta. However, since you are planning a year away you will need to monitor Jakarta since the scene is going through major changes at the moment.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2205533]Quick one guys. Besides recovering and lounging beside the pool and the obligatory sightseeing what is there to do during the day in PP. (beside more mongering) LOL.
NI.[/QUOTE]As others have suggested there is pretty much bugger all to do in the day in PP. Apart from the usual tourist sights as you have mentioned.

PP is hot so you won't want to be wandering around the streets until after at least 5 pm. There is the Aeon Mall to visit which will get you out of the heat. Maybe pick up a massage on Sothearos Boulevard, which is close to Aeon. Apart from that enjoy Fox Sports and National Geographic Channel on your TV.

No reason to argue or to try to tell other people what to do. Everyone has their own interests, tastes and price points. I'm definitely in the Blanquiceleste line of thinking.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2205505]I would rather be remembered as a silly foreigner than a cheap charlie.

As I said before, we are on very different planes my friend. I wish you well.[/QUOTE]

Another night and this time I decided to walk the 'streets of shame', mainly concentrating on 136 because to me, 136 had the most action per meter. Definitely, I thought the most striking looking girls were easily at M Butterfly. Until I looked closer and quickly realized this was NOT my type of action .

I finally settled on Candy Bar when I saw a very cute girl sitting outside who caught my eye. I went in and we sat down and much to my surprise, quickly a couple of LadyBoys sat down with us. They all asked for drinks, which I declined. But they stayed anyway, because it was low season and early in the night and they were bored. It ended up being quite fun with them and I ended up tipping each of them a dollar a piece which seemed to satisfy them.

I had to work in the morning and so I started negotiating with Ah-Dah for ST for $30, she asked for $50, I countered with $40 and she said no. Since I had to get up relatively early, I didn't really want to continue negotiating and didn't have the time to start working on another girl, so I gave in quickly after making sure that the $50 included a BJ. And off we went.

I was very pleasantly surprised by her body, she is super thin, but overall very nice figure. And she did a perfectly adequate BJ, but really only the Darling Darling girls seemed very good at this (and you end up paying for it! Ah-Dah was really quite shy, so I totally believe her story that she is new to the business and then when I entered her, I almost came right away-she was that tight. I had to do most of the work, but that was fine with me.

A good ST and I slept like a baby.

Doc.

Went to the Corner bar this night and it never got very crazy as noted in some previous reports. Probably because it's low season. Still, I did see some cute girls and hung out for awhile. I bought a few drinks and then started talking about prices. She wanted $100ST! I tried not to laugh, but started at $40. We went back and forth for awhile, but finally settled on $80. Again, my negotiating is made difficult by my early morning wake up times because of work. But as we were getting ready to leave, I realized I forgot to nail down the BBBJ issue and she said no way. So that was that. I went home empty-handed! I definitely wasn't going to pay more. We were getting close to Darling Darling prices and this wasn't DD!

So I was perfectly satisfied with Ah-Dah and went back to the Candy Bar to see her, but I was told that she was eating dinner. So I went on the hunt. After window shopping for awhile, I ended up at the Erotic Bar. I couldn't remember reading about it, but definitely had some cute girls. I can't remember of the girl I was with, but bought her a few drinks, played pool and had fun, so started to negotiate and I started at $30ST and she looked at me like I was crazy and didn't even make a counter offer. Oh well. Maybe I went too low? Or they really don't do too much take out here? There were some seriously cute girls here, I will say. Maybe someone else can give it a try.

I went back to Candy Bar and Ah-Dah was back from dinner. She said she saw me while she was eating and was telling to me, but with all the different girls yelling at me, I didn't hear her. No worries, got her anyway, and this time I bought some of the LadyBoys drinks and had a great time. Then took Ah-Dah back for LT and had a good time for another too short trip to Phnom Penh.

Doc.

I was in PP for the last 2 weeks, a 2nd trip for me in Cambodia (the first one was a 9 days trip 3 years ago that I enjoyed), here is a resume of some of my experiences.

During my last trip I met only 2 nice girls in Pontoon and did one ST with a girl from the Corner 136 bar. This time my expectations were higher but in the end I felt disappointed. I should also add that I'm not a fan of bars and that's probably why I felt disappointed in the end.

For the first night, I was so tired after my very long flight from Europe that I even didn't try to meet any girl, and decided to rest instead. For the second night I went straight in LE Cyrcee and arrived there around 10 o'clock on Saturday. The line-up was composed of about 10 or 15 girls and to my surprise they were a lot better looking than in my previous visit. As I entered the bar I heard an acclamation from the girls and I was already rounded by 4 or 5 girls, I wanted to take a girl for ST but didn't know which one yet and the girls that were the more persuasive didn't look like the most prettier ones so I just told them to quiet and I would just like to enjoy my beer first. Then 2 Japanese guys came in and went directly upstairs, followed by almost all the girls. A few minutes later just 2 of them came down and one of them came to me, being persuasive. I had time to check her up and down so I decided to settle with her and see how things would go. Her name is AhLyn, she is small, a nice face, long hairs with some decoloration and a roundish ass, I would say between 25 and 30 years old. It seems that there are at least 2 girls with that name in the bar, the other one being her cousin, more slim and a cute face. So she ordered her drink and we talked about price, 40 plus barfine (10) for ST, including just one shot. I hadn't banged a girl for a long time so I knew I would unload quickly, we then talked about 2 shots, she wanted 80 but we agreed for 60 in the end. Don't know if I ruined the market for others but I couldn't do anything else as she didn't want to come for 50 and being only 10 dollars difference I didn't want to argue to much about the price. Then we went in the 2nd short time place as the first one was full (just a couples meters for the bar, 6 dollars for ST room). In the room she was fun, everything was available (except A+), 2 shots as agreed. Once naked her body is nice, small but firm breast, no baby damage, nice ass and most importantly very tight and satisfying pussy. I left very satisfied for that 1st fuck.

I came back on Tuesday, 3 days later and the line up seemed better but AhLyn came to me directly and I didn't want to push her away as the first time we had a nice encounter. So I decided to go with the flow and take her again. Once she got upstairs to change her clothes another girl came to me and tried to convince me to take them both, that girl was the 2nd AhLyn, I declined as I wasn't prepared for a threesome but later I regretted it because she was very cute, very much my style and regarding the price it would have been only a little bit more expensive to have one shot with each than 2 shots with one and only girl. That time we went in the 1st ST room (7 dollars) and the 1st shot was great but I don't really know why, I felt very uncomfortable in my belly right after the first shot. I couldn't go for another round like this, so I explained it to her, gave her 40 and we said good bye as good friends.

I found that in PP I could not really diversify the places to monger, I could not find my way in the bars, I tried a few times Pontoon as I had a good luck there in my previous visit (but this time the talent was really not worth putting a foot in the place, and the music was really not good either), didn't check DD as prices listed on the forum are by far too excessive in my opinion, tried just one massage parlor (252) but I thought that the most consistent place was really LE Cyrcee.

So I came back a week later and as for my prior visits, acclamation when the security guy opens the door for me and rounded up by the girls. I was happy to see that AhLyn wasn't here as I wanted to give a try to other girls, but was quickly disappointed to see that the younger Ahlyn wasn't there either. So I quickly took a girl that looked good at first sight and she came to sit next to me. Her name was Syelah or something like that, bigger body, taller that the small girls, nice ass, pretty face with long blondish hairs. There was another girl that was pushing very hard to be picked up but her face was really not the kind that I go for. Both Syelah and that girl were very persistent that I took them both, but I didn't want to. So came again the negotiation with Syelah about prices and it went exactly as the first time with AhLyn, 60 for ST 2 shots. She went to change her clothes and when she came back she looked very sexy with her tight red shirt and black jeans. On the way to the ST room she kept insisting that I should take the other girl also, I would be very lucky as she is new in the business, she wanted that I look at them while Syelah would eat the other girl's pussy. That be*tch was arousing me badly as I've never been involved in a threesome, I had thought about it only after my previous visit to that bar and she looked like she genuinely wanted to interact with that girl. Finally in the room she admitted that she loves to eat pussies and she really wanted to eat the other girl. I ensured her that I would give only 40 to each girl for a total of 2 shots and I would not give her the 60 as agreed before. She called back the shop and made the other girl come, the deal was that I give 40 to both girls and the barfine plus Lady Drink for the second girl (13.5 dollars) as I didn't pay for it in the bar.

In the room I was disappointed to see that Syelah had some severe baby damage on her belly and her face was not as pretty as I thought, I quickly ate her pussy before shower and before the other girl arrived and it seemed like her pussy was not really tight either. The other girl's name is Lyly, small body, not very good looking face but the rest of the body is nice, she is young, probably around 23 or something like that. Beautiful boobs, no baby damage although she admitted already having a baby, nice firm and small ass with a beautiful skin. I could see that she might eventually be new in the business because she was quite shy. All of us took the shower at the same moment but she was not really allowing me to touch her as she would go away every time but yet she was smiling and laughing from time to time. Then we went in the bed with me being in the middle, one girl on each side. The problem is that they looked really shy to work together and I've been the one to tell them what to do. Lyly went down between my knees and started liking my balls while Syelah was DFKing me at first and then went down for some BBBJ. I felt that the pressure was already coming up so I wanted to have Lyly only to suck me while Syelah came back for some DFK. Lyly was a great sucker and was clearly not new at taking dicks in her mouth. She was doing it slowly, taking it all in her mouth with a great pace, then she said that I should tell her if I want to cum as she doesn't want a CIM. Then I told Syelah to sit on my face while the other one was still sucking, we went at it for not long as I was very aroused, finally I took my dick out of Lyly's mouth around the last moment and had to stroke myself to finish as she stopped everything. Not a very satisfying 1st shot and I considered it as a waste as I would have liked to bang Lyly. Then came some chitchat for a few minutes, Lyly doesn't speak English or very little so I exercised my Khmer during that time. Then I tried to persuade Lyly to eat Syelah but she was too shy and didn't seem to want to try to eat some pussy. I then pushed for Syelah to eat Lyly, while I would look at them. Lyly lied down on her back, Syelah came between her knees and started licking her. But to my surprise Syelah didn't show any particular enjoyment and she just licked her very softly and briefly. I then realized that all the stuff she told me before were probably some bullshits. Finally I decided to eat Lyly as her young pussy was appealing, so she was still lying on her back, me on her side licking the upper area of her pussy near the clitoris, then Syelah came between my thighs and started sucking me. It would have been great if we could have done that for a long time but again, unfortunately I couldn't last long as her BBBJ was more aggressive and in that position I couldn't control myself so finally I let it go in her mouth but she didn't took it well as she split it all over the bed, ran in the bathroom and made some obvious sounds of spitting again and again, then washing thoroughly her mouth with water and dental cream. It was getting pathetic as that girl probably took loads of semen in her mouth before meeting me. I cannot imagine that every guy that she fucks pull out before cuming when she gives a BBBJ. That 2nd shot was also a waste because it arrived too quickly and I still didn't have the pleasure to fuck the small girl. Then we showered, put our clothes on and when I paid them, Syelah kept asking for a 10 dollar tip. She should already consider herself lucky to get these 40 dollars as she didn't have to work hard to gain them, and after the spitting episode there was no way that I gave her anything more than agreed. I told her that she was the one to push for another girl to come, if she hadn't pushed for it, I would have given her 60. In the end I was disappointed with my first ever threesome as the arousal was too strong for me and I couldn't handle it (but I particularly loved it when I had the 2 of them sucking my dick and licking my balls in the same time). I think this is exactly the reason why they always push for it, less work to do for each girl while 2 of them are getting paid instead of one.

That was my last visit to that bar, not that I didn't want to go back again but I feel some discomfort by going too often in the same place in such a small period of time. Being seen by each of the girls every time we go in the bar, the previous ones wanting to be taken again, and I don't like to be put in some kind of category such as pervert (even though they are the ones to go seat there every day and wait to be picked up by some random guys, I've seen that these girls always consider frequent customers as being big perverts), or the guy that is easy to make cum, or the one that can bullshitted easily, and the list can goes on and on.

My thoughts about these girls: Ahlyn is recommended, Lylyn also if one likes her face, but I wouldn't recommend Syelah as she's got too much baby damage.

My thoughts about the threesome is that next time I would rather become a bit intimate with each girls and then try to organize the threesome instead of directly going with two girls than I've never met before.

My thoughts about LE Cyrcee: The most persistent place to have a sure fuck with a good service at a reasonable price. The downside is that as in other bars in PP the girls are pushing hard from the moment we enter the place and we don't really have time to check which one is more our style. Then it might be a bit hard to change girl every times also. By the way, the place is changing its location from the beginning of August, but they are moving only a few meters away in the same street that the Palace Boutique Hotel.

2 more reports to come (when I'll have time to write them) about the massage parlor on 252 and on a bargirl from street 136.

As a huge fan of oilies in BKK I wanted to experience it in PP also to see the differences.

After reading the reports of Pokeris on the 252 massage parlor I finally decided that I would give it a try.

I went there on Monday and arrived at around 17 o'clock. Gave 2 dollars to motodoup from the street 51 (from a place near LE Cyrcee), by the way he had a hard time to find the proper street.

I entered the entry of the building on the right side, went up the stairs, turned left and took the corridor to the guy that was already waiting for me (the tuktuks drivers staying outside the place are connected to them by talkie walky, so they are aware when a customer arrives). He invited me to sit on the sofa and chose one of the girls in the fishball. All of them were wearing the same clothes (blue top with a tight jean), they were maybe around 15 girls but none of them were really appealing. There were also only Cambodian girls as all the girls were wearing a blue color badge (blue for Cambodian and red for Vietnamese). They are all sitting and one cannot really see if they have a good shape or not. So I finally went for one that looked not big, that looked enthusiastic and smiling and she was wearing the number 35. The guy asked me to pay right now but as advised by others I went first to talk with the girl. She was surprised to see me waiting for her in front of the door, I told her boom boom 1 hour 25 OK? She understood quickly but wanted 40, then came down to 35 and then we settled at 30. She was not good looking, very petite, not the best ass but the others were not really looking better either. I went to give the 7 dollars to the 2 guys at the desk and then we headed upstairs to the room. The place was empty, as the girl told me, business was very quiet, very few customers. The room is clean enough, we can lock the door and feel secure there. We took shower together and she was pleasant to be with, looks like she likes foreigners. She also got a nice skin with big boobs. So I lied on my back, she started sucking my nipples while stroking me gently. Then I asked her to get down on me and did a brief BBBJ. I took a small piece of vitamin V before going there so it was enough for me to get hard, she put the condom on and we went at it. I fucked her in much for some time and I have to admit that her tight pussy was doing the job, it was not unpleasant to fuck her like that. After a moment we did it doggy until I cum. In the end she was a bit annoying by asking if I've finished and when I will finish but apart from that her attitude was pleasant. I didn't try to kiss or DATY her, so I would say that she is just OK for a quick fuck.

Around a week later I went back there a Wednesday evening at 8 o'clock and the talent was much better. I could see the girl number 42 that Pokeris reported a week ago but I decided to go for the only Vietnamese girl available, number 41. She is very petite with a cute face, long blondish hairs, almost no boobs and almost no ass. I would guess that she weighs no more than 30 or 35 kilos and around 21 years old but I was satisfied when I saw her coming out of the fishbowl. She didn't understand when I talked to her at first but finally we arranged the price as for the previous girl: 30 dollars. I paid the 7 dollars fee to the guys and we headed upstairs. She didn't took a shower but she wanted me to take one and later I saw that she didn't have any body odor so it was all good for me. I liked her body, once naked she was very cute. It started exactly the same way as it did with the previous girl, she did a quick BBBJ, put the condom on and then mich. But that time I kept fucking her in that position as it was feeling great. Her pussy was tight but surprisingly not as tight as the Cambodian girls. When I finished it seemed like she had loosen up a bit, she looked a bit stressed in the beginning. Her English is very limited but still she could understand when I asked her if she will be there tomorrow and the next day at the same time, and she said yes. If I had been in the mood to go shag a girl these days I would have gone to see her, I liked that girl even though the service was very limited.

I had the very unpleasant surprise to see that due to the elections on 29th all the bars were closed for my last night in town (Saturday 28). Everything was closed on the river side, LE Cyrcee closed also, so I decided to go there again, and arrived near 8 o'clock evening. The line-up was smaller than the last time but there was still some doable girls, and by that night when everywhere else was closed I had no choice but to chose a girl from there. Vietnamese girl wasn't there, number 35 was there making big signs to me but eventually I chose another girl that was all smiles and all signs. That girl is cute with very beautiful boobs, she is number 24. Once she came out, she didn't understand a word that I was talking to her. I asked her again slowly and even tried to tell her in Khmer but she called the guy over to make a translation. As I didn't want him to get involved and the atmosphere was getting weird I decided to pay the fee and talk about price directly in the room. Once in the room that girl suddenly understood the word boom boom, one hour and the prices. She wanted 70 dollars while I offered her only 25, she was looking stressed and slowly went down to 60,50 then 40 and said she wouldn't go down. I offered her 30 but she didn't want, the situation was getting very annoying so I started putting my shoes on and then she went down to 35. I thought that it's just 5 dollars more than what I was willing to pay so I agreed but I shouldn't have done so because I realized she was one of the sh*ttiest girl that I ever fucked. Maybe it was the negotiation that killed the vibe but she did put all kind of barrier between me and her. We showered together but she was very distant. I tried to make her feel more comfortable by telling her (in Khmer) that she is cute, that she looks good but she would just smile, say thank you and not change her attitude. Finally we went in the bed, I lied on my back, she sat beside me, looked at me and stroke vigorously my dick. After a few seconds of this she was already asking if she can put the condom on while my dick wasn't even hard. I took a bit of vitamin v before going there so I didn't need much action anyway to get hard but she was doing zero effort. I asked her to suck me, she said no pretexting some problems in mouth. I asked if I could eat her and she watched me with a disgusted face and said she doesn't like that. She just sucked my nipples for a few seconds and I did the same with her. It's a shame because she has got a nice body and her boobs are particularly beautiful. Eventually my dick became hard enough to receive the condom so I put her in mich and went at it for a few minutes. That girl was 100% starfish, after a while I put her in doggy but in that position she became completely dry and it was impossible to go on. She went to her bag and was looking for something for what looked like an eternity, I thought she would bring some KY but that girl brought another condom. I was already starting to lose my power so there was no way I would put another condom on. Luckily I took my small bottle of astroglide with me, lubed my dick, entered her again and after a few stroke, her pussy being tight and her having a nice body, my power came back pretty quickly. After a few minutes she was already expressing some signs of discomfort, moving constantly, making some sounds. The session was getting embarrassing so I unloaded quickly without her noticing it and I kept coming and going in her for a few moment. When I went out of her she was surprised, looked at me as if she was shocked and kept touching her pussy and smelling it to see if my semen had gone out of the condom. She was clearly one of the sh*ttiest girls that I have ever met. Maybe she doesn't like foreigners but then why making all kind of signs an smiles once in the fishball? I'm surprised she lasted so long as she said she was working there for a year. From that time I didn't consider her anymore, took my time to take a shower and put my clothes on as if she was not here. I took 35 dollars out of my pocket, handed it to her without even looking at her and headed down by myself.

I don't know if I will ever put a foot again in that place but I found the service very substandard and most of the girls being low quality.

P.S: my apologizes for the last report on LE Cyrcee, the girl's name is not AhLyn but Ahny.

Hello,

I agree with you. Cyrcee is a safe bet but I notice that prices have gone up since last Christmas. I use to pay just $25, though, plus bar fine for a take out to my hotel. Add two drinks to that. Some girls are indeed very pretty and friendly.

I don't supposed they have gone back to offering services upstairs, the way they used to way back in the day. I only went upstairs in the bar maybe twice.

Threesomes can e very good. I have had many good experiences, where the girls eat each out really good. CIM is rare but I have experienced that to I guess. I have been there more than twenty times over the last five years or so.

Happy travels.

What are your experiences at Pontoon or what Phnom or Riverfront FLs, or GS?

Cheers!

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2207157]I don't supposed they have gone back to offering services upstairs, the way they used to way back in the day. I only went upstairs in the bar maybe twice.

Threesomes can e very good. I have had many good experiences, where the girls eat each out really good. CIM is rare but I have experienced that to I guess. I have been there more than twenty times over the last five years or so.

Happy travels.

What are your experiences at Pontoon or what Phnom or Riverfront FLs, or GS?

Cheers![/QUOTE]I don't think they deliver any service upstairs, as one of the Japanese guys went to ST room nearby with one of the girls. I think they go upstairs just to not stay in the same place than all the other girls and other customers.

My experiences at Pontoon were bad. The first night I went there, just one girl came talking to me and she was overweighted, some eye contact with some girls but none of them were good looking. I went back to sleep empty handed (and it was a week end, I paid 8 dollars to go in the club). The 2 other times I went there were during the week, I didn't pay to go in but it was not worth staying, I just took a beer and went back home pretty quickly. The music was also very bad each time I was there. I didn't try any other discos.

For what Phnom and Riverfront FL I didn't try at all, they are not the kind of girl that I want to meet. I just saw 3 or 4 near what Phnom during my last night and didn't stay on the riverfront at night so I didn't see any there.

For GS (Golden Sorya?) I walked past the place many times during the day or night and the few girls that I saw around that place were very scary, I cannot believe that these are the girls that are being talked about on this forum because they were really ugly and clearly high on drugs.

Quick review of hotels in PP.

When I was organizing my trip to Cambodia I had a hard time trying to find a good place to stay (I knew only 2 places from my previous trip, LE grand Mekong and Vacation boutique hotel, but I didn't want to go back there this time). Here is a quick review of some hotels on PP for guys that are planning a trip there.

During my stay there I had the opportunity to check a few hotels. I changed places every 2 or 3 days mostly to have a look for my future trips here or to visit some areas that I didn't know.

The first place that I've checked in was Ohana on street 148 mostly because I read some good things about it here. On arrival I was a bit disappointed. I had a balcony room on the 2nd floor for 38 dollars, breakfast included. Not a bad deal in my opinion. Location is great but couldn't sleep well as the noise from the street outside was very loud and after my long flight in the first days I was also sleeping in the afternoon. The swimming pool on the ground floor looked big but I didn't check it as there were always some childs and families screaming and jumping in it. Breakfast was not bad but finishes at 10 o'clock. Girl friendly as I took a bar girl back and they called me when she left to check if everything was ok. Wifi was a bit slow, the room was very dark (lights not powerfull) and beware with the door lock system as I could sometimes open the door from outside without using the card (it was probably only my room but it's good to check if anyone stays there). Overall good place but would not stay there again for my first days.

Katari hotel on street 294. I took the double superior room for 41 dollars. The best hotel that I've checked in my opinion. Very quiet (it's more like a business hotel). Very big, nice and clean rooms and lightning in the room was good (but the air con in my room was noisy, room 601). I've gone there only because of the sauna and steam room. It looks like it's very hard to find hotels with these equipments in PP. The swimming pool was perfect on the rooftop, I was always the only one to use it. Breakfast sucks, so take the room without breakfast if possible. The location is great also, on bkk1 , for anyone who is tired of staying near the riverside, not far from street 252. Then here is the only reason that I left that place, it is NOT guest friendly so if you go there, take your girl with you when you check in.

Harmony hotel on street 148. I took the double deluxe room for 48 dollars. That place was almost the most expensive that I checked and yet the shittiest one. I 'll never go back there again. I went there because I saw some reports about it here and because from the outside the place looks great. First they take 50 dollars deposit and the amount of the room. The guy refused to take 2 20 dollars bills because he saw some very small marks on it (I'm from Europe so all the dollars that I used were given to me when I exchanged my Euros in PP, later I used these bills in other places without anyone saying that they were not fine). Then they gave me a room near another one that was completely destroyed, they were making it completely new, I let you image the sounds that were coming out of that room. By the time I realized that it would be like this from 8 morning to 17 evening, I had to go down at the reception desk, and ask them to change room. They did it but rooms are rather small in that place, swimming pool looks small also and was full of people inside, and breakfast sucks also. There is only one lift for all the building and you 've got to wait it for a long time. I ended taking the stairs everytime. I guess that it is girl friendly as I saw some old barangs with some younger bargirls lookalike girls. Then for the check out, the same m*therfucker at the reception desk took almost half an hour before giving me back my 50 dollars deposit. Never again in that place.

Aquarius hotel on street 240. I took the double standard room for 50 dollars. I checked that one because everytime I was looking for a room that place was fully booked, so when I saw a room available I took it. The staff is very professional, the building looks new, very clean room but a little bit small. The location was great also, I enjoy more places on bkk1 than on the riverside. It seems like it is guest friendly but I didn't bring anyone back to my room in that place. The swimming pool seems good but small. Breakfast was very good, staff up there was perfect and it closes at 10 h30 while every other places close the breakfast at 10 o'clock. One of the best places that I've checked in PP but a bit pricey in my opinion. If you 've got the money, I recommend it.

Okay Boutique hotel on a small alley near street 174, I took the double superior room for 40 dollars. This one was almost always full also and I clearly don't understand why. Maybe because they might have very big rooms, as I saw a lot of families there. My room was not bad, the wood style looks great but the furnitures looked old. It was big and clean though. I was on the 7th floor and there were a lot of wind sound coming in the room, plus a lot of constructions nearby nowadays, so it was not really quiet. The good thing is that you can keep the aircon on when you're in the room. 2 lifts for the building. The staff looks professional but not friendly. It's a bit hard to find it when you don't like to take tuktuks but instead walk back to your hotel. By looking at the map I also thought that it was a lot closer to the riverside. Breakfast sucks, a lot of people there, you have to make a queue in a small and hot room, it's not in an open area. Not a bad place but I was really not impressed.

LE Mont hotel on street 304, I took a double superior room for 36 dollars. This one is located on bkk2 , it's very far from the riverside. The shops and restaurants are really for locals, a lot of big bbq restaurants, with a big pub for locals nearby, it doesn't look like a touristic area but I like these kind of places. It seems that it's a new hotel. I went there only for the sauna and steam room. They also have a jacuzzi, but for some reason all these equipments are available only from 4 o'clock pm. Beware that sauna is very powerfull and can become very hot (I almost burnt in it at the max 110 celsius). Room was small and not clean at all. Only 1 lift, and it's always full, and you have to went for it for a very long time. There were a lot of groups there (mostly Chinese) , and they don't give a sh*t to any other customers, they were making a lot of noises from 6 o'clock in the morning, and that's the principal reason that I moved. Breakfast sucks also, almost nothing available. It seems like it is girl friendly although I didn't see any bargirl in it.

Monsoon boutique hotel on street 130, I took the double balcony room for 27 dollars (without breakfast). This is a budget hotel but everything was perfect there. Very friendly staff, clean and big room, no swimming pool. As you can guess on that street it is girl friendly even though there is a sign saying they are strongly against sex tourism. The only thing that I disliked there is exactly because of it's location. At first I thought it would be great because you can go back home by walk instead of taking these f*cking tuktuks but later I realized that everybody on the street knows exactly what you do, when you go out, when you come back, who you bring back. These girls have eyes everywhere, and if you like to be discreet, it is not the place to go. I took only one girl back there for a few days but everytime all eyes were on us. The management of this place is the same than the one of the Vacation boutique hotel on street 136. I would go back there only if I have a regular girl and I don't plan to change regularly, because too many eyes are spying on us in this part of the city.

In almost all of these places the lightning was very poor.

If anyone has other places in that budget (others than Lux or Sun and Moon) or maybe cheaper ones as some good guesthouses I would be glad to read about them. As you probably saw I'm a fan of saunas, so are there other hotels in that range of price with these equipments? I couldn't find them.

Even better would be if anyone knows a good spa where one could go just go for the sauna (not anything sexual, just the heat with the cold basin).

Hi all does anyone know if Flamingo Hotel is up an running again? Any reports much appreciated. I stayed any times in the past but it has been closed for ever it seems. It was still not open when I was there last spring. I liked the old Flamingo just fine an have many happy memories. I hope the new place is not too different or too expensive.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2208072]Quick review of hotels in PP.

When I was organizing my trip to Cambodia I had a hard time trying to find a good place to stay (I knew only 2 places from my previous trip, LE grand Mekong and Vacation boutique hotel, but I didn't want to go back there this time). Here is a quick review of some hotels on PP for guys that are planning a trip there.

During my stay there I had the opportunity to check a few hotels. I changed places every 2 or 3 days mostly to have a look for my future trips here or to visit some areas that I didn't know.

The first place that I've checked in was Ohana on street 148 mostly because I read some good things about it here. On arrival I was a bit disappointed. I had a balcony room on the 2nd floor for 38 dollars, breakfast included. Not a bad deal in my opinion. Location is great but couldn't sleep well as the noise from the street outside was very loud and after my long flight in the first days I was also sleeping in the afternoon. The swimming pool on the ground floor looked big but I didn't check it as there were always some childs and families screaming and jumping in it. Breakfast was not bad but finishes at 10 o'clock. Girl friendly as I took a bar girl back and they called me when she left to check if everything was ok. Wifi was a bit slow, the room was very dark (lights not powerfull) and beware with the door lock system as I could sometimes open the door from outside without using the card (it was probably only my room but it's good to check if anyone stays there). Overall good place but would not stay there again for my first days.

Katari hotel on street 294. I took the double superior room for 41 dollars. The best hotel that I've checked in my opinion. Very quiet (it's more like a business hotel). Very big, nice and clean rooms and lightning in the room was good (but the air con in my room was noisy, room 601). I've gone there only because of the sauna and steam room. It looks like it's very hard to find hotels with these equipments in PP. The swimming pool was perfect on the rooftop, I was always the only one to use it. Breakfast sucks, so take the room without breakfast if possible. The location is great also, on bkk1 , for anyone who is tired of staying near the riverside, not far from street 252. Then here is the only reason that I left that place, it is NOT guest friendly so if you go there, take your girl with you when you check in.

Harmony hotel on street 148. I took the double deluxe room for 48 dollars. That place was almost the most expensive that I checked and yet the shittiest one. I 'll never go back there again. I went there because I saw some reports about it here and because from the outside the place looks great. First they take 50 dollars deposit and the amount of the room. The guy refused to take 2 20 dollars bills because he saw some very small marks on it (I'm from Europe so all the dollars that I used were given to me when I exchanged my Euros in PP, later I used these bills in other places without anyone saying that they were not fine). Then they gave me a room near another one that was completely destroyed, they were making it completely new, I let you image the sounds that were coming out of that room. By the time I realized that it would be like this from 8 morning to 17 evening, I had to go down at the reception desk, and ask them to change room. They did it but rooms are rather small in that place, swimming pool looks small also and was full of people inside, and breakfast sucks also. There is only one lift for all the building and you 've got to wait it for a long time. I ended taking the stairs everytime. I guess that it is girl friendly as I saw some old barangs with some younger bargirls lookalike girls. Then for the check out, the same m*therfucker at the reception desk took almost half an hour before giving me back my 50 dollars deposit. Never again in that place.

Aquarius hotel on street 240. I took the double standard room for 50 dollars. I checked that one because everytime I was looking for a room that place was fully booked, so when I saw a room available I took it. The staff is very professional, the building looks new, very clean room but a little bit small. The location was great also, I enjoy more places on bkk1 than on the riverside. It seems like it is guest friendly but I didn't bring anyone back to my room in that place. The swimming pool seems good but small. Breakfast was very good, staff up there was perfect and it closes at 10 h30 while every other places close the breakfast at 10 o'clock. One of the best places that I've checked in PP but a bit pricey in my opinion. If you 've got the money, I recommend it.

Okay Boutique hotel on a small alley near street 174, I took the double superior room for 40 dollars. This one was almost always full also and I clearly don't understand why. Maybe because they might have very big rooms, as I saw a lot of families there. My room was not bad, the wood style looks great but the furnitures looked old. It was big and clean though. I was on the 7th floor and there were a lot of wind sound coming in the room, plus a lot of constructions nearby nowadays, so it was not really quiet. The good thing is that you can keep the aircon on when you're in the room. 2 lifts for the building. The staff looks professional but not friendly. It's a bit hard to find it when you don't like to take tuktuks but instead walk back to your hotel. By looking at the map I also thought that it was a lot closer to the riverside. Breakfast sucks, a lot of people there, you have to make a queue in a small and hot room, it's not in an open area. Not a bad place but I was really not impressed.

LE Mont hotel on street 304, I took a double superior room for 36 dollars. This one is located on bkk2 , it's very far from the riverside. The shops and restaurants are really for locals, a lot of big bbq restaurants, with a big pub for locals nearby, it doesn't look like a touristic area but I like these kind of places. It seems that it's a new hotel. I went there only for the sauna and steam room. They also have a jacuzzi, but for some reason all these equipments are available only from 4 o'clock pm. Beware that sauna is very powerfull and can become very hot (I almost burnt in it at the max 110 celsius). Room was small and not clean at all. Only 1 lift, and it's always full, and you have to went for it for a very long time. There were a lot of groups there (mostly Chinese) , and they don't give a sh*t to any other customers, they were making a lot of noises from 6 o'clock in the morning, and that's the principal reason that I moved. Breakfast sucks also, almost nothing available. It seems like it is girl friendly although I didn't see any bargirl in it.

Monsoon boutique hotel on street 130, I took the double balcony room for 27 dollars (without breakfast). This is a budget hotel but everything was perfect there. Very friendly staff, clean and big room, no swimming pool. As you can guess on that street it is girl friendly even though there is a sign saying they are strongly against sex tourism. The only thing that I disliked there is exactly because of it's location. At first I thought it would be great because you can go back home by walk instead of taking these f*cking tuktuks but later I realized that everybody on the street knows exactly what you do, when you go out, when you come back, who you bring back. These girls have eyes everywhere, and if you like to be discreet, it is not the place to go. I took only one girl back there for a few days but everytime all eyes were on us. The management of this place is the same than the one of the Vacation boutique hotel on street 136. I would go back there only if I have a regular girl and I don't plan to change regularly, because too many eyes are spying on us in this part of the city.

In almost all of these places the lightning was very poor.

If anyone has other places in that budget (others than Lux or Sun and Moon) or maybe cheaper ones as some good guesthouses I would be glad to read about them. As you probably saw I'm a fan of saunas, so are there other hotels in that range of price with these equipments? I couldn't find them.

Even better would be if anyone knows a good spa where one could go just go for the sauna (not anything sexual, just the heat with the cold basin).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2208248]Hi all does anyone know if Flamingo Hotel is up an running again? Any reports much appreciated. I stayed any times in the past but it has been closed for ever it seems. It was still not open when I was there last spring. I liked the old Flamingo just fine an have many happy memories. I hope the new place is not too different or too expensive.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Attached below are two links for the Panda Hotel. IMO, well-located and within desired budget of many on the board. I just learned of it last week from a hard-core monger friend. He has booked it for later this month. He would not have booked the Panda if it didn't check all of the boxes. That said, I think it will be his first stay there.

[URL]http://pandanboutiquehotel.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/kh/the-panda-siv-ty-010225335.html[/URL]

SS.

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2208248]Hi all does anyone know if Flamingo Hotel is up an running again? Any reports much appreciated. I stayed any times in the past but it has been closed for ever it seems. It was still not open when I was there last spring. I liked the old Flamingo just fine an have many happy memories. I hope the new place is not too different or too expensive.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi.

When I was in Phnom Penh in December last year, they were still not ready with the renovation. I asked the staff at the massageplace opposite Flamingos if they had any information about the renovation. They thought they should be ready within a few months. Their old website is still running and there are no information about the renovation which is strange.

BL.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2208072]Quick review of hotels in PP.
When I was organizing my trip to Cambodia I had a hard time trying to find a good place to stay (I knew only 2 places from my previous trip, LE grand Mekong and Vacation boutique hotel, but I didn't want to go back there this time). Here is a quick review of some hotels on PP for guys that are planning a trip there.
During my stay there I had the opportunity to check a few hotels. I changed places every 2 or 3 days mostly to have a look for my future trips here or to visit some areas that I didn't know.
If anyone has other places in that budget (others than Lux or Sun and Moon) or maybe cheaper ones as some good guesthouses I would be glad to read about them. As you probably saw I'm a fan of saunas, so are there other hotels in that range of price with these equipments? I couldn't find them.
Even better would be if anyone knows a good spa where one could go just go for the sauna (not anything sexual, just the heat with the cold basin).[/QUOTE]Appreciate your efforts. Seem like Okay is best but noise worries me or Sun & Moon if you got the cash.

Regards.

NI.

Thank you brother for the update. Any other good hotels nearby? And has anyone had any luck with maids? I did once right opposite the GSM in a hotel whose name I cannot remember right now.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=ButtLover;2208390]Hi.

When I was in Phnom Penh in December last year, they were still not ready with the renovation. I asked the staff at the massageplace opposite Flamingos if they had any information about the renovation. They thought they should be ready within a few months. Their old website is still running and there are no information about the renovation which is strange.

BL.[/QUOTE]

I found some very cheap hotels in Sangkat Chrouy Changva and Sangkat Tonle Basak. Tuk tuks are only a couple bucks from these areas to city center. Would it be unwise to stay in these areas?

In 2017 I stayed in the Silver River hotel for more than a week. It's basic with few amenities but is a good value for the price. Pretty well located and very guest friendly. I would stay there again but have booked the Point Boutique Hotel for my next stay because it's even cheaper (booking today) and has newer, nicer rooms. I don't think I brought back a girl to Point Boutique last time but am pretty sure they are guest friendly. If anyone knows different please let me know. In any case I booked for two people just to be sure no problems.

Just wondering are there African working ladies just like in Bangkok?

Hi.

Anybody know if the Highland Hotel (Formally Blue Tongue Hotel) is girl friendly.

Since their renovation and name change, I'm not sure if they allow overnight guest.

Located #39, Oknha Ket St. (174) near Sorya Mall. Would you recommend this hotel?

Thanks.

TC.

[QUOTE=ValentinoV;2210715]Just wondering are there African working ladies just like in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]They don't have black girls here.

[QUOTE=Tcvve;2211829]Hi.

Anybody know if the Highland Hotel (Formally Blue Tongue Hotel) is girl friendly.

Since their renovation and name change, I'm not sure if they allow overnight guest.

Located #39, Oknha Ket St. (174) near Sorya Mall. Would you recommend this hotel?

Thanks.

TC.[/QUOTE]Yes I stay there all the time and is girl friendly.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;2212082]Yes I stay there all the time and is girl friendly.[/QUOTE]At Paulr1950.

Thanks for the reply.

Quick question. Is this hotel close to the Walkabout Hotel was located before it's closure?

[QUOTE=Tcvve;2212219]At Paulr1950.

Thanks for the reply.

Quick question. Is this hotel close to the Walkabout Hotel was located before it's closure?[/QUOTE]Yes-it is right next door, set back on street 174. The old Walkabout site is now a Khmer soup / hot pot place!

The times are a'changin!

Cheers.

Hi guys,

I'm going to Phnom Penh next month. Kinda confused with the currency. Are we suppose to pay in USD or Cambodia money?

And also any new guest friendly hotel to recommend?

[QUOTE=ValentinoV;2212525]Hi guys,

I'm going to Phnom Penh next month. Kinda confused with the currency. Are we suppose to pay in USD or Cambodia money?

And also any new guest friendly hotel to recommend?[/QUOTE]Anything that is $1 or more I usually pay in USD. Anything less, will pay in riel. If something, like a tuk tuk or a beer is $1.50, I might pay $! US + 2000 riel. Mix and match as it were.

SS.

[QUOTE=ValentinoV;2212525]Hi guys,

I'm going to Phnom Penh next month. Kinda confused with the currency. Are we suppose to pay in USD or Cambodia money?

And also any new guest friendly hotel to recommend?[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what currency you pay with. Either is equally acceptable. However you will pay your visa fee at the airport in USD.

However I find it easy to get money out of the ATM in USD (which will be $100 usd denominations), and then change a $100 usd note every few days at a street moneychanger into Riels. The riel notes that they give you are either 20,000 riel (=5 usd), or 10,000 riel (= 2. 50 usd). That way you have lots of small notes to make daily purchases in restaurants, markets, convenience shops, moto transport, etc. Or even for pussy, where I regularly give a chick ten 10,000 riel notes (= 25 usd).

The rate is more or less fixed around 4000 riels to one USD, and with a small spread on the buy / ask.

Thanks for the answer.

Anyway any hotel that can allow us to bring 2 guest along in case I wan a 3 some.

First time step foot into Phnom Penh. Stayed in Secrets Hotel at St. 136 two block away from Route 136 bar. It is the old Lance Court Hotel after some renovation. I got offer from their website with USD52.5 Deluxe Room for 3 nights which is a bargain. Nice room with in-room safe which is my primary requirement for selecting hotel room.

You can get a SIM card at the airport when you come out from the arrival hall. All telcos have their counter in front of the arrival hall exit. I got one SIM from Smart for USD 6 for 20 GB (7 days) (claim by the counter staff there). Others like Metfone and Cellcard also offer quite similar package for USD 5 for 7 days.

Bar: went to bars along St 136, St 130, St 104 and St 51. Most bars offer happy hour draught beer at USD 0. 5-0.75 usually until 7 pm. However most good looking girls will usually start to come in around 7-8 pm with most crowded at 9 pm. Barfine USD 10 and lady drink USD 3. 5. Took girls from the bar one 2 nights, one from St 104 (Bar One Zero Four) and another one from St 136 (Mr Butterfly). The one from St 104 cost me USD 70 LT which turned out to be a good catch. Really accommodating and good attitude. Had 3 shots with her and leave at around 10 am when I told her I want to go to breakfast. Whereas the one from St 136 cost me USD 100 LT which was a disaster for me. Will tell me in later post. Personally I feel that bars at St 104 and St 130 have the best quality of girls. Look out for Angry Bird, Bar One Zero Four, Intoxica, Cheries. My POV, don't blame me if you got something different. LOL.

Shanghai bar at St 51 has few lookers too but you have to talk to them directly to check if they are going out with customer. Not all will go. Saw a SYT and try to hook up with her but it failed. Too bad.

Massage: went to Soul Garden City, Luxury World Hotel and St 252 Massage. Did not take any girl for whatever reason. Soul Garden seems to have better quality. Generally the charge is room USD 7-10 plus girl tips for the FJ. Girls are from either Cambodia or Vietnam.

KTV: went Naga World 88 KTV at level 2. Girls from Cambodia, Vietnam and Cambodia. Girl tips is 50 and LT 150,200 or 300 (varies on girls, tips will be waived), you need to ask the mummy specifically what is the particular girl's LT price. Took on Cambodia girl for LT 200. Overall OK, nothing to shout about. Johnny Walker Gold Reserve 750 ML USD 130 and Angkor beer USD 4/ can. Mixer is chargeable (coke / soda 3. 5) and each girl sit with you the KTV will charge USD 16 to the bill. Also surveyed Prince KTV and Cobra KTV. Generally girl tips 30 and LT 150-200. Saw quite a lot of lookers in Prince.

Freelance: Didn't go to much places except Naga's Darling Darling and area near to Naga hotel reception at ground floor. Quality quite good but did not get the quotation.

Had a bad experience with a bar girl from MrButterfly (see the photo below). Agreed LT for USD 100 at around 12 am. Back to room, had one shot and sleep. The next day morning 7 am tried to touch her for second round but she said she want to sleep so I was thinking OK, let's sleep for while. At 11 am, touch her again and request for another round but this time was told that she is 'don't have the feeling' to do it. Wake up and dressed up said want to leave. I was a bit pissed-off and told her I will only give her ST price. She refused and said that her LT definition is one shot and accompany me sleep till the next day! $% After much argument for almost one hour I finally give in for not wanted to created any unwanted trouble. Hope those who went to MrButterfly bar and bump into this girl to be more cautious with her.

[QUOTE=Mufans;2213790]Had a bad experience with a bar girl from MrButterfly (see the photo below). Agreed LT for USD 100 at around 12 am. Back to room, had one shot and sleep. The next day morning 7 am tried to touch her for second round but she said she want to sleep so I was thinking OK, let's sleep for while. At 11 am, touch her again and request for another round but this time was told that she is 'don't have the feeling' to do it. Wake up and dressed up said want to leave. I was a bit pissed-off and told her I will only give her ST price. She refused and said that her LT definition is one shot and accompany me sleep till the next day! $% After much argument for almost one hour I finally give in for not wanted to created any unwanted trouble. Hope those who went to MrButterfly bar and bump into this girl to be more cautious with her.[/QUOTE]Sorry for your experience. Butterfly Bar, Candy and the other one owned by the same lady have a lot of horror stories going back years. Pill padding, fights, all kinds of bad shit. They're best to be avoided in my opinion. Never heard anything good about any of them. On top of that 100 is a crazy price for a few hours of sleeping and one round of sex. Usually they only try it on if they work in a rip off joint or they don't really want to go with a guy. It is still very usually for bar girls to sleep all night with a customer for 30 to 50 dollars. For perspective you could've spent 30 at Cyrcee and got just as much sex with a better performer and then back to your room for a peaceful sleep without any arguments!

[QUOTE=RickRock;2217322]Sorry for your experience. Butterfly Bar, Candy and the other one owned by the same lady have a lot of horror stories going back years. Pill padding, fights, all kinds of bad shit. They're best to be avoided in my opinion. Never heard anything good about any of them. On top of that 100 is a crazy price for a few hours of sleeping and one round of sex. Usually they only try it on if they work in a rip off joint or they don't really want to go with a guy. It is still very usually for bar girls to sleep all night with a customer for 30 to 50 dollars. For perspective you could've spent 30 at Cyrcee and got just as much sex with a better performer and then back to your room for a peaceful sleep without any arguments![/QUOTE]Yes. I've been told that the Butterfly Bar, Candy Bar and 69 Bar on 136 have the same owner. Candy Bar and 69 Bar have been my "home bars" on about 4 trips into PP. Never had any problems at all. No bill padding, witnessed no fights between customers or between the girls. Doesn't mean that it hasn't happened. I just never witnessed or experienced same. I never had a problem hiring a starfish from either of those bars. Performance, departure times agreed to were honored. Maybe I was just lucky? I like to believe that it is a combination of 40 years of mongering experience and careful vetting during pre-employment interviews that provides a measure of "luck". (And, yes, it is always a roll of the dice. I've been "had" a few times, but not in those bars. All in BKK.

SS.

I had a very unpleasant experience at Candy Bar earlier this year over Happy Hour prices. I arrived toward the end of Happy Hour and ordered a drink but was charged full price. When the bill was put in my chit container on the bar, the time registered on the bar chit was in advance of the Happy Hour conclusion buy clearly after checking my watch it was not. I questioned this at the time and had verification from 2 other customers and called for the manager. A most aggressive female came forward and defended the bar staff and the erroneous charge. I left immediately, not consuming my drink and only leaving sufficient Riel on the bar to cover the advertised Happy Hour price. I will never enter Candy Bar again even though I have taken girls from there previously.

Happy mongering, Johnie.

I spent 3 nights last month in PP. Stayed at Point Boutique Hotel on Street 130. Lovely little place. Definitely will stay here again.

Picked girls for LT from Alaska bar. Paid $70 + $5. Girls from 69 bar for ST. Paid $50 + $5.

Walked into almost every bar on 136,130 and 104. Worst bar I have seen on this visit was The Corner Bar on 136. I liked a girl at Rose Bar on 104 but she was busy. The same thing happened at OneZeroFour on 104.

Also went to DD on 2 nights. Quite a few good looking girls there. Price discussions will irk some punters so I won't bother with the details.

Had a very good dinner one night with a couple of friends and the girls at some restaurant called 54 something. Great food, live music, cheap beer.

Hi all,

Travelling for 2 days in Phnom Penh. Please suggest place to stay that helps me to do mongering.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2217362]Yes. I've been told that the Butterfly Bar, Candy Bar and 69 Bar on 136 have the same owner. Candy Bar and 69 Bar have been my "home bars" on about 4 trips into PP. Never had any problems at all. No bill padding, witnessed no fights between customers or between the girls.SS.[/QUOTE]Did anyone ever been asked to pay 15 $ for barfine at Candy bar? I know the normal price is 10 $ but I was asked that price because the girl was supposedly a dancer there, though I never saw her dancing as every time I've been there she had already left with a customer.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2219660]Picked girls for LT from Alaska bar. Paid $70 + $5. Girls from 69 bar for ST. Paid $50 + $5.[/QUOTE]The +$5 was for barfine or was it a tip? During my last trip girls at Alaska were very agressive. They were very unhappy that I entered and got out immediately of the bar, I'm pretty sure that some of them called me all kind of names in Khmer.

Do you guys do this kind of stuff? Going in a bar and going out straight after when you see nothing interesting, or do you just enter bars when you saw a cute girl outside?

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2220633]The +$5 was for barfine or was it a tip? During my last trip girls at Alaska were very agressive. They were very unhappy that I entered and got out immediately of the bar, I'm pretty sure that some of them called me all kind of names in Khmer.

Do you guys do this kind of stuff? Going in a bar and going out straight after when you see nothing interesting, or do you just enter bars when you saw a cute girl outside?[/QUOTE]As I reported, I walked into almost every single bar on 136,130 and 104. Obviously I did not sit down in each bar I entered. Perhaps 70% of the bars were just in and out within 30 seconds. And I had no trouble with it. My general rule of thumb for walking in and out are as follows:

- If there is no music playing.

- If the aircon is shut off / the place does not have an aircon.

- If there are less than 10 girls inside.

- If I spot more than 2 ladyboys inside.

- If I see an unruly gang of men completely drunk inside insisting on music of their choice (happened one night at Rose Bar).

The $5 was a tip for the girl.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2220633]The +$5 was for barfine or was it a tip? During my last trip girls at Alaska were very agressive. They were very unhappy that I entered and got out immediately of the bar, I'm pretty sure that some of them called me all kind of names in Khmer.

Do you guys do this kind of stuff? Going in a bar and going out straight after when you see nothing interesting, or do you just enter bars when you saw a cute girl outside?[/QUOTE]I do this most of the time. And you don't need to be a keen observer to see that entering and immediately departing is routinely done by most bar crawlers. No problem. It's SOP for most guys. If the place doesn't rock your boat, move on. Attractive girls outside will certainly grab my attention and is more likely to get me to take a look inside. As far as payment is concerned, everybody has their own pay scale. Both the customer and the provider. And those scales fluctuate and are usually negotiable. $70 long time (and less) and $30ST has been acceptable for me consistently. I don't "tip". This is just my personal experience and is only to add to your knowledge base.

SS.

To Blanquiceleste and Sam Sanuk, thank you for your replies, they were very informative.

This is going to less on the reporting part and more on my thoughts.

I was in Phnom Penh for 2 weeks last month and I absolutely fucked zero girls, pros or non-pros. This was not what I intended at all when I arrived in Phnom Penh but I wasn't planning on fucking too much either. I absolutely hate the girly bar scene so that pretty much wipes out 3/4 of the monger options for me. No joke, for the entire trip, I've never step foot once in any girly bars and I only went to pontoon twice. Pontoon is actually a decent nightclub. The lights and lasers were cool and I liked most of the music the DJ was playing. And I love how the staff never pressured me into buying any drinks. The girls are not pushy either. The drink that I did order both time I was there was spirit, which was way over priced at $3. 75. You can buy the same can in the mini-mart for less than a dollar. I'm not sure about the prices for alcohol but I'm pretty sure they are over priced as well.

The first night, I arrived at 11 pm which was way too early as there were barely any girls at that time. I say the best time to go is around midnight to 1 AM. Anyways, I did not see any girls that made me want to pull so I left after I finished my drink. The second night, I arrived at midnight and soon after, a beautiful girl, 7/10 in the face, came in and stood next to me. She had long jet black hair and was elegantly dressed. She had some flowery perfume on that made me very attracted to her. We exchanged a couple awkward smiles and then finally I decided to ask her if she is available for the night through google translate. She quoted me $100, I was like hell no and countered $40 which she refused. So that was the end. Again, I left at around 2 AM after I finished my drink and I noticed that she was still there without a client.

To me, the only women on earth who I would pay $100 to fuck are Brazilians. These Cambodian girls in the girly bars and pontoon aren't worth that much money. No disrespect to them, as I know they quote the price they quote in order to survive. But that doesn't mean I have to pay it.

I then came to realize that if I'm willing to put in some work that I could easily date non-pros but it was too late for this trip. I'm by no means handsome. Just average looking, but I was getting looks from young normal Cambodian girls everywhere I was going. One time I went into a mini-mart by a gas station near the Russian market and the three cashier girls immediately screams, smiles at me, and waves at me. At first, I didn't even know what was going on. I thought they were directing it at someone behind me but there was nobody behind me. Another time I was in the supermarket, the two cashier girls who rang me up were delighted to talk to me. I was both surprised and happy that they spoke some English. There was also a young Cambodian girl that sits at a street corner selling Cambodian sweets. She was so cute I fell in love with her. So every other afternoon I would go to her, give her a smoothie drink that I bought for her, and buys a box of her sweets (R3000). I tried to talk to her but a) she only speaks Cambodian and b) she is extremely extremely shy. She can barely make eye contact with me when I talk her (but her face lights up like a Christmas tree when she sees me, she's even cuter when she smiles). I would've needed at least a month to crack her. I really hope she is still there when I go back. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think there is enough young good looking normal girls that I really don't need the girly bars or freelancers for sex. Of course, its not as easy to bed normal girls as pros. A lot of work and time is needed. But if I am given the choice to fuck a normal girl or a pro, I would 100% go with the normal girl. This is just my option I would like to share with everyone. I am by no means trying to disrespect any member on here.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2220630]Did anyone ever been asked to pay 15 $ for barfine at Candy bar? I know the normal price is 10 $ but I was asked that price because the girl was supposedly a dancer there, though I never saw her dancing as every time I've been there she had already left with a customer.[/QUOTE]I did not notice this question before. I understand that the barfine at the Candy Bar and some other bars is $15 on the weekend (Friday and Saturday nights). I never barfined from there on those nights, so I can not personally confirm. Just passing on what I have heard.

SS.

Hi folks,

Any short time hotel suggestions or in-call options in Phnom Penh?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2221719]I did not notice this question before. I understand that the barfine at the Candy Bar and some other bars is $15 on the weekend (Friday and Saturday nights). I never barfined from there on those nights, so I can not personally confirm. Just passing on what I have heard.

SS.[/QUOTE]Indeed the first time that I barfined her was a Saturday night but she sold it as being a special barfine price for dancers. But then I barfined her again early in the evening on a week day and I think they took the same amount, she probably pocketted the $5 later. Anyway it's not a big deal but I don't like to be played and I'll be aware for my next trip in PP.

Thanks SS.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2222105]Indeed the first time that I barfined her was a Saturday night but she sold it as being a special barfine price for dancers. But then I barfined her again early in the evening on a week day and I think they took the same amount, she probably pocketted the $5 later. Anyway it's not a big deal but I don't like to be played and I'll be aware for my next trip in PP.

Thanks SS.[/QUOTE]She might have been a "dancer". I do recall a few girls who would drop in who were wearing matching outfits. They looked like they were not part of the regular crew- and did dance like they were "ringers". And yes, she could have been pocketing the extra 5 bucks. LOL Also, maybe there was a "coyote" premium attached. Ha ha ha.

SS.

[QUOTE=DoorMan;2221814]Hi folks,

Any short time hotel suggestions or in-call options in Phnom Penh?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hotels are so cheap near the bars in PP that you can just rent one for the night and use it for ST. However, if you must there is one right beside Le Cyrcee and you can treat Le Cyrcee as an incall.

[QUOTE=ValentinoV;2212675]Thanks for the answer.

Anyway any hotel that can allow us to bring 2 guest along in case I wan a 3 some.[/QUOTE]PM me! I had in super budget friendly hotel with no problem of bringing 2 lady guests.

[QUOTE=PlayMe;2223156]PM me! I had in super budget friendly hotel with no problem of bringing 2 lady guests.[/QUOTE]All hotels allow multiple guests. No one will bat an eyelid. It's only a matter of how much you want to pay for a room.

Range is from $12 to $100 a night.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2223290]All hotels allow multiple guests. No one will bat an eyelid. It's only a matter of how much you want to pay for a room.

Range is from $12 to $100 a night.[/QUOTE]Not all hotels!

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2223327]Not all hotels![/QUOTE]Most hotels are guest friendly. All hotels that are guest friendly allow multiple guests without additional charge. As far as I know. If any hotel tries to be like Pattaya, we should boycott them.

I hate Pattaya's guest policy. Most hotels are guest friendly, but after the first guest, many hotels will charge you for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th girl. Bad if you like 3 somes, 4 somes, and 5 somes.

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2223327]Not all hotels![/QUOTE]Well. Perhaps naming the hotels that are not multiple guest friendly might help here? No?

[QUOTE=DoorMan;2221814]Hi folks,

Any short time hotel suggestions or in-call options in Phnom Penh?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]There are short time hotels all over Phnom Penh and indeed the country. Usually they are labeled as Guest House. You just tell them you want a room for 2 hours. No need to show ID or anything. Price is $5 - $10 depending on the place. Well known examples would be Tin Tin on Street 51 or Flamingos on Street 172.

By the way Cyrcee moved from it's old location to a new place on Street 136. Still near the Central Market but not on the same street it was before, plus the hotel "across the street" from the old location was demolished anyway.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2222327]She might have been a "dancer". I do recall a few girls who would drop in who were wearing matching outfits. They looked like they were not part of the regular crew- and did dance like they were "ringers". And yes, she could have been pocketing the extra 5 bucks. LOL Also, maybe there was a "coyote" premium attached. Ha ha ha.

SS.[/QUOTE]This kind of shit can only occur if guys buy into it. I would laugh in somebody's face if they told me something like that. Cambodia is not Thailand. Let's keep it that way!

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2207157]Hello,

I agree with you. Cyrcee is a safe bet but I notice that prices have gone up since last Christmas. I use to pay just $25, though, plus bar fine for a take out to my hotel. Add two drinks to that. Some girls are indeed very pretty and friendly.

I don't supposed they have gone back to offering services upstairs, the way they used to way back in the day. I only went upstairs in the bar maybe twice.[/QUOTE]They moved the bar to Street 136, but not too far. There is no upstairs action. The price is still $25 if you know the price. If you don't know the price, they will quote you whatever they think they can get out of you. I never give more than $25 to a Cyrcee girl. In fact, I never mention it. Just give it to them after the fact.

I'm reminded of the guys who say the price at the fishbowl on 252 is $10 or even $12 for the house plus $50 or $100. In fact the price is nothing like that at all, but if you want to pay that much you can. If you go in asking what the price is they might even come up with something high like that, or higher. They have no pity on the uninformed, especially white foreigners.

Just 3 days ago I laughed at a girl who told me the ladies in her bar (Island) got $100 for sex. She quickly got the hint and replied "$100, or $80, or $60, depending on the girl. " A day later I did her in my room at noon for $30.

Cambodia and Vietnam aren't Thailand or the Philippines. The market is based on negotiation.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;2209613]I found some very cheap hotels in Sangkat Chrouy Changva and Sangkat Tonle Basak. Tuk tuks are only a couple bucks from these areas to city center. Would it be unwise to stay in these areas?[/QUOTE]Chrouy Changva is the peninsula you see from the Riverside. The only access is across the Japanese bridge, which is well north of the main part of the city. A tuk tuk might be a couple of bucks but you could easily spend 45 minutes to an hour one way depending on traffic just to get to the bars. You're talking 7 kilometers from there to Golden Sorya. The area is being developed now (read: lots of high rises) but it's historically been infamous among locals as a place where Muslim Chams and criminals dwell.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2223341]Most hotels are guest friendly. All hotels that are guest friendly allow multiple guests without additional charge. As far as I know. If any hotel tries to be like Pattaya, we should boycott them.

I hate Pattaya's guest policy. Most hotels are guest friendly, but after the first guest, many hotels will charge you for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th girl. Bad if you like 3 somes, 4 somes, and 5 somes.[/QUOTE]Phnom Penh isn't Pattaya. Most visitors are not sex tourists. The hotels don't care about sex tourists and they're not going to feel any sting from a boycott.

Many hotels are guest friendly. Probably most of the 3 star and below places, but none of the backpacker places. Joiner fees aren't too common.

There are many hotels that aren't girl friendly at all, meaning they don't let you bring a girl to your room even if you do offer to spend extra money. They cater to hip tourists from the west and make a big deal about "fighting sex tourism" with signs posted in their hotels. There are too many examples to list. Some people with legitimate girlfriends or even wives (have run into problems in these ideological warzones posing as hotels.

[QUOTE=Shadow6491;2190051]Mate there are definitely Viet girls in Golden Vine I have known the owner there for 18 years and some of the girls there are good friends that have been there for about 8 years and more. Also quite a few Viet Karaoke places on 130 and 136[/QUOTE]No need to reply to this guy. He posts on dozens of cities as an expert but is very often wrong as is the case here. Bars like City and Golden Vine are entirely Vietnamese or Khmer Krom. You know it and I know it, so why bother with his posts?

[QUOTE=Titanio;2054568]That is a bargain at Rose Bar. Normally they do not come down to under 60 $. But again, 10 $ for 2 drinks? I don't like Rose Bar, very pushing. 104 bar is more relaxed to me, same as Oskar. It is already almost a year ago I was there but now and the old days you just told the girls to get upstairs and for sure no one else was going upstairs within the next hour. No idea what the quality of the Bunny's bar is nowadays but that was always fun on the couches in the back of the bar. I never experience that much from a first visit, but when returning the night after as a returning customer it is a different world.[/QUOTE]I do two Rose Bar girls regularly for $30 each. No bar fine. YMMV.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2224417]They moved the bar to Street 136, but not too far. There is no upstairs action. The price is still $25 if you know the price. If you don't know the price, they will quote you whatever they think they can get out of you. I never give more than $25 to a Cyrcee girl. In fact, I never mention it. Just give it to them after the fact.[/QUOTE]Crycee's website states that they are on Street 130. [URL]http://www.cyrcee.com/[/URL].

Hmm. $25 is very low. Some of the girls who are desperate might take it. If you don't know the girls, there is no way any of the top 3 or 4 girls will take that offer. Not sure about $30, especially for a new customer.

I believe many girls still quote $40. But will accept $35. Even Ap-pul, the top producer. I'm not sure how low you can negotiate for with the uglyish girls.

The girls prefer the Japanese. They say they come in, and give them $60, $80 or even more.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;2224425]The hotels don't care about sex tourists[/QUOTE]

Yes they do. The hotels care about every last single Riel.

I thought even the 5 star hotels were guest friendly. But, just read about it. Never spent the extra money for the 5 star. But for anyone interested in 5-star hotels, Cambodia is affordable.

Listen, you can pay whatever you want. The fact is I can and do go to Cyrcee regularly, take any of the girls I want to a nearby hotel, then give them $25 when I leave. No questions asked and no problems. Period, end of story.

Another fact is that hotels in Phnom Penh by and large don't cater to white Western sex tourists and many specifically and explicitly ban them from their places of business.

Here you go:

"Do not stay with us if you are a sex tourist" - [URL]https://www.madmonkeyhostels.com/sex-tourism-cambodia/[/URL].

"It's quite easy to find average to pricy hotels and villas that state a 'no sex tourism' policy on their website and keep the word. " - [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293940-i9551-k5037529-Cheap_accommodation_with_a_no_sex_tourism_policy-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL].

Some of many examples in Phnom Penh.

This is you want to "Read about it. " Some of us have experienced this all in real life. Chose the way you want to learn, or don't. Whatever.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2224770]No need to reply to this guy. He posts on dozens of cities as an expert but is very often wrong as is the case here. Bars like City and Golden Vine are entirely Vietnamese or Khmer Krom. You know it and I know it, so why bother with his posts?[/QUOTE]I reported as I experienced it. I should be in PP again in November and based on what you guys are saying as "experts", will make a trip again to see for myself. I can tell the difference between a Khmer and a Viet, even if the Khmers are from the Southwest border of Vietnam.

And if I do find Viets there I will happily accept your intel. If not, I will report what I saw. Simple. Why get personal?

[QUOTE=RickRock;2224805]"Do not stay with us if you are a sex tourist" - [URL]https://www.madmonkeyhostels.com/sex-tourism-cambodia/[/URL].

"It's quite easy to find average to pricy hotels and villas that state a 'no sex tourism' policy on their website and keep the word. " - [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293940-i9551-k5037529-Cheap_accommodation_with_a_no_sex_tourism_policy-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for this input. However, I doubt the average monger on this forum would want to stay in a backpacker hostel.

And that Tripadvisor link had just the question posted with zero replies. Am I missing anything?

I fully agree that some hotels are indeed ideological warzones. Would be helpful to get the names of such places for general intel. I will always stay in the hotels near the riverside and all of them are guest friendly.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2224805]Listen, you can pay whatever you want. The fact is I can and do go to Cyrcee regularly, take any of the girls I want to a nearby hotel, then give them $25 when I leave. No questions asked and no problems. Period, end of story.[/QUOTE]Well, you may write what you want but if you read my point, if you are new, there is almost no way (maybe unless they think you're Japanese and will pay a lot) you can get the top producers for $25.

But you implied that you know the girls. More power to you if you can get Ap-pul and An-na for $25.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2224901]And that Tripadvisor link had just the question posted with zero replies. Am I missing anything?

I fully agree that some hotels are indeed ideological warzones. Would be helpful to get the names of such places for general intel. I will always stay in the hotels near the riverside and all of them are guest friendly.[/QUOTE]

Just a poor attempt. I've read that there aren't many. I'm glad RR drove and/or emailed all those hotels to get his info.

The problem with the guest friendly hotel websites is that they only list positives, not the bad hotels.

List of unfriendly hotels: Billibong, Monkey Hostals, Serendipity Beach Resort, Grand Sihanoukville Hotel.

No idea who or what you're talking about. There are no Khmer names like that. Maybe you're talking about Pov (which means young child) and someone else. ("A" is added before a name informally between friends when calling each other, so "Srey Pov" might be called "Apov" by her friends). If that's who you're talking about I've done her. I've done almost all in the bar. There are no tiered rates. They all take the same amount of money. I told you what I paid. Take the information or leave it. I don't really care what you pay. I was just trying to let you know what other people are paying. If you're okay with that, enjoy.

Should be obvious that I'm not new, but it wouldn't matter either way. I didn't pay double or triple the going rate the first time I went to Vietnam or Macau either. I paid the local going rate. You should try it sometime.

Or pay whatever you want and try to take them to an anti-sex tourist hotel. Who cares.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2224944]There are no tiered rates. They all take the same amount of money. I told you what I paid. Take the information or leave it. I don't really care what you pay. I was just trying to let you know what other people are paying.[/QUOTE]Same money? Other people pay $25? For Ap-pul, An-na, An-ni? That's total BS.

I don't know the Khmer spelling of the names. That's what it sounds like. Another poster wrote that it sounded like Apple (a nice girl, with horrible childhood scars. She covered most of it with tattoos, but she said her mom told her to stop).

If (big if) you know anything about Cambodia, is that some people's official name spelling and what they call each other is different.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;2224944]I've done almost all in the bar.[/QUOTE]

Then you've done some ugly shit.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2224901]I fully agree that some hotels are indeed ideological warzones. Would be helpful to get the names of such places for general intel. I will always stay in the hotels near the riverside and all of them are guest friendly.[/QUOTE]Kantari hotel on street 294 for example is not guest friendly (but it's not on the river side). I saw it only when I checked, it's a shame because except for the breakfast, the place was very good.

Then the Monsoon Boutique hotel on street 130, in the middle of the action, clearly says that they are strongly against sex tourism but I didn't have a problem bringing a girl back there, and I saw other guys going out of the place at 12 o'clock with girls that were clearly WG.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2224944]There are no Khmer names like that. Maybe you're talking about Pov (which means young child) and someone else. ("A" is added before a name informally between friends when calling each other, so "Srey Pov" might be called "Apov" by her friends). If that's who you're talking about I've done her. I've done almost all in the bar. There are no tiered rates. They all take the same amount of money. I told you what I paid. Take the information or leave it. I don't really care what you pay. I was just trying to let you know what other people are paying. If you're okay with that, enjoy.[/QUOTE]Even though the "A" they put before the name is probably for use with familly or very close friends the girls give these names to the people they meet also. I 've met some Ahlya, Ahny, Ahrut, I've seen some Ahnet and so on, even though I never met them before they presented themselves by these names.

Regarding the price, thanks for sharing with us the price that you pay but it doesn't mean that we'll absolutely get these prices even though we are aware of the price market for locals or expats. When I went there I knew that the price was probably higher that the going rate (40 $) but the girl wouldn't go down after my attempts to bargain even though I told her that I came here a few years ago, the girl was not even a looker, she was just OK for a fuck. And when you did not have a fuck for months, it's not the 10 or 15 $ that you pay more that will stop you from fucking her. For the massage parlor it's a different story as I could get on multiple occasions at 7 and 30 $ , but the service was not good over there. But anyway I will probably be there in a few weeks and will try to get it at 30 in the bars.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2224948]Same money? Other people pay $25? For Ap-pul, An-na, An-ni? That's total BS.

I don't know the Khmer spelling of the names. That's what it sounds like. Another poster wrote that it sounded like Apple (a nice girl, with horrible childhood scars. She covered most of it with tattoos, but she said her mom told her to stop).

If (big if) you know anything about Cambodia, is that some people's official name spelling and what they call each other is different.
[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right. I know nothing about Cambodia. I'm a noob who just happened to have been doing Srey Pov before she had a single tattoo. You guys who call her "Apple" and pay $40 and $50 are the experts.

Carry on.

Hi,

I'm sorry if this is a noob question but browsing the forum just left me very confused. I'm planning a trip to Cambodia and Vietnam next week for a few weeks. And I just wanted to find out what the scene is like. Where one should go, places to stay, etc.

I'm thinking Phnom Penh, Siem Reap, Sihanoukville and Kampot.

I know asking for a lot, but I hope ya'll don't mind.

[QUOTE=Pilkey;2227074]Hi,

I'm sorry if this is a noob question but browsing the forum just left me very confused. I'm planning a trip to Cambodia and Vietnam next week for a few weeks. And I just wanted to find out what the scene is like. Where one should go, places to stay, etc.

I'm thinking Phnom Penh, Siem Reap, Sihanoukville and Kampot.

I know asking for a lot, but I hope ya'll don't mind.[/QUOTE]Ask away all you want, no one will mind. Not one bit at all. In fact no one will care to respond either, as it is quite evident that there is no RTFF done.

Read a few pages back. There are some really solid posts from BMs like Rick Rock, Sam Sanuk, Banana Boi, Mutant Chicken, etc. Despite this if you cannot find what you are looking for, then it is better to stay at home.

I'm going to Phnom Penh next week. Has anyone stayed at the Lux Riverside Hotel and Apartment? Just wondering if they would bother me if I have a visitor.

Has anyone stayed at the Lux Riverside Hotel? It seems pretty central to all the bars. I'm wondering if its decent and if they allow female visitors? Thanks ahead of time.

[QUOTE=TampaDJ;2231350]Has anyone stayed at the Lux Riverside Hotel? It seems pretty central to all the bars. I'm wondering if its decent and if they allow female visitors? Thanks ahead of time.[/QUOTE]Girl friendly. Steps away from numerous bars. Rooms are good. Avoid the 1 bedroom apartments they are filthy.

I'll be staying at Sofitel in a couple of weeks. I know it's a good area to eat but are there any massage shops, karaoke bars, or bars where girls are available in that area?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2231711]Girl friendly. Steps away from numerous bars. Rooms are good. Avoid the 1 bedroom apartments they are filthy.[/QUOTE]Stayed at the Lux many times. Guest friendly: no extra charge; girls seem to know they need to leave their ID at the front desk when entering. You need to call the front desk when a visitor departs, so she can retrieve her ID. Hotel is looking after you.

Ground Zero for bars. As I said before, couldn't be closer to the "Sanuk" unless there was a bar in the lobby.

No idea about the apartment cleanliness, as I haven't book one. But the room I've always occupied has been spotless.

SS.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2231711]Girl friendly. Steps away from numerous bars. Rooms are good. Avoid the 1 bedroom apartments they are filthy.[/QUOTE]Girl friendly and how. I have a funny incident to report here.

During my last stay I asked the guy manning the reception if there was a gym in the hotel to workout. He replied while gesturing, "No sir, only workout with lady in room".

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2232318]Girl friendly and how. I have a funny incident to report here.

During my last stay I asked the guy manning the reception if there was a gym in the hotel to workout. He replied while gesturing, "No sir, only workout with lady in room".[/QUOTE]That is funny. I suspect the front desk often sees the same personal trainers.

SS.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2231712]I'll be staying at Sofitel in a couple of weeks. I know it's a good area to eat but are there any massage shops, karaoke bars, or bars where girls are available in that area?[/QUOTE]That's not my usual prowling territory. The only place that I know of that fits your criteria is Soul KTV and Massage. About 1 km from the Sofitel. LOTS of potential and do-able service providers. (Allegedly about 400) it is 2 or 3 floors of KTV and 2 floors of massage as I recall.

I've only gone there once. Went with a Khmer friend who had done biz there before. I asked him to take me to satisfy my curiosity. This is a link to the Soul facebook page. There is a map located on that page along with address and phone number.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Soul-KTV/103700309773894[/URL]

Seems to be moderately priced. Certainly within the budget of a Sofitel resident. Ha ha ha.

SS.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2231712]I'll be staying at Sofitel in a couple of weeks. I know it's a good area to eat but are there any massage shops, karaoke bars, or bars where girls are available in that area?[/QUOTE]BB,

That's not my usual prowling area. The only venue I know of is Soul KTV / Massage. About 1 km from the Sofitel. 2 or 3 floors of KTV and 2 floors of massage. I went there once with a Khmer friend who had experienced a "massage" there. Moderately priced, so well within the budget of a resident of the Sofitel. Ha ha ha Supposedly about 400 damsels available between the massage and KTV operations. Many looked very do-able. (Mostly 5-8 with a couple of 9's I saw. Of course, I didn't see all of the inventory.).

Here is a link to the Soul facebook page. There is a map, address and phone number on that page. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Soul-KTV/103700309773894[/URL].

SS.

Does anyone know in Cyrcee is just closed for holidays or have they moved location?

Thanks.

Hi.

Can anyone recommend a good Visa Agency in Phnom Penh to assist in getting a single Tourist Visa for Thailand.

My Hotel currently does not provide this service.

Thanks.

TC.

[QUOTE=Tcvve;2234457]Can anyone recommend a good Visa Agency in Phnom Penh to assist in getting a single Tourist Visa for Thailand.[/QUOTE]If you are from a Western country, you don't need a visa; you can get a 30 day transit visa at the airport. Unless you want some long term visa.

You can get a visa to any country from any of the numerous travel agencies along the riverside.

The one I used is at the following location: On Street 136 and the riverside, turn right (south). Before the next street, there will be at least 2 travel agencies. I use the second one.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2234464]If you are from a Western country, you don't need a visa; you can get a 30 day transit visa at the airport. Unless you want some long term visa.

You can get a visa to any country from any of the numerous travel agencies along the riverside.

The one I used is at the following location: On Street 136 and the riverside, turn right (south). Before the next street, there will be at least 2 travel agencies. I use the second one.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will get a tuk tuk from the FCC club on Riverside.

Will I still follow your directions?

Tc.

[QUOTE=Tcvve;2234474]Thanks. I will get a tuk tuk from the FCC club on Riverside.

Will I still follow your directions?[/QUOTE]You can if you want.

From FCC, just walk north along the riverside. Go inside to the first travel agency you see. Or you can walk about a kilometer and use the travel agent I use. The only difference should be a few dollars in price.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2234477]You can if you want.

From FCC, just walk north along the riverside. Go inside to the first travel agency you see. Or you can walk about a kilometer and use the travel agent I use. The only difference should be a few dollars in price.[/QUOTE]Just a FYI to anyone going to ask a visa shop in Phnom Penh to facilitate a thai single entry tourist visa. They have been given strict orders from Thai immigration to stop this service.

From now on you must go to the Thai counslate in person to apply for a Tourist visa. 3 visa agencies turned me down. On stated you must have 2 or less visa stamps in your passport before the would even try.

Hopefully this will change back soon.

Tc.

Hi,

I have a lot of experience in Thailand about WG. Sometimes, I want to partake in some A+ action and in Bangkok, I know the MP where you can easily find this available, it's a lot less available with Gogo girls.

I am thinking about visiting PP and I was wondering if A+ was also available there, I read the reports but I cannot find some clear information about it.

GK.

[QUOTE=GypsieKing;2238539]Hi,

I have a lot of experience in Thailand about WG. Sometimes, I want to partake in some A+ action and in Bangkok, I know the MP where you can easily find this available, it's a lot less available with Gogo girls.

I am thinking about visiting PP and I was wondering if A+ was also available there, I read the reports but I cannot find some clear information about it.

GK.[/QUOTE]There are some karaoke bars catering to Asian clients. They tend to be upscale. Not sure if they are available to take out and the cost. You can try Casino where there are very pretty girls asking $100-$200 per shot. I guess if you pay well and stay at the casino hotel they maybe willing to stay the night. GFE who knows. Some are really beautiful.

For me I will settle with any decent looking girl who gives good sex and company. Last few times I was there I was with some country girls outside Phnom Penh who were GFE. I had to buy some dresses for them to take to the casino. Security is tight and unless girls are dressed well they do not allow. You can also get free buffet dinner on the casino floor. Just go to the host desk and ask. Girls tend to like the food. You do not have to be a gambler to get it free.

Casino hotel rooms are comparable to 4 star hotels. Little expensive compared to quay side hotels but nice to stay.

[QUOTE=GypsieKing;2238539]Hi,

I have a lot of experience in Thailand about WG. Sometimes, I want to partake in some A+ action and in Bangkok, I know the MP where you can easily find this available, it's a lot less available with Gogo girls.

I am thinking about visiting PP and I was wondering if A+ was also available there, I read the reports but I cannot find some clear information about it.

GK.[/QUOTE]What the eff is an A plus?

[QUOTE=GypsieKing;2238539]Hi,

I have a lot of experience in Thailand about WG. Sometimes, I want to partake in some A+ action and in Bangkok, I know the MP where you can easily find this available, it's a lot less available with Gogo girls.

I am thinking about visiting PP and I was wondering if A+ was also available there, I read the reports but I cannot find some clear information about it.

GK.[/QUOTE]There are no places MP or other places where A+ (anal) is on the meny. You have to ask the girl. Some do, but most don't.

[QUOTE=DCups;2238733]What the eff is an A plus?[/QUOTE]Anal?

Very difficult to get with some providers, just got to ask around.

Sorry for the miscommunication, A+ is a common acronym for Anal Sex in Thailand.

[QUOTE=DCups;2238733]What the eff is an A plus?[/QUOTE]

Hows. The location of sun and moon hotel and for sure girl friendly thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2240838]Hows. The location of sun and moon hotel and for sure girl friendly thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]The first 25 posts I see are all questions of different kinds in different forums. Not a single report or useful piece of information shared. I presume there has been zero RTFF done either.

Read a few pages on this thread, all your questions will be answered.

[QUOTE=GypsieKing;2239019]Sorry for the miscommunication, A+ is a common acronym for Anal Sex in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Oh, I thought it meant top tier girls.

Visited Phnom Penh for the first time and stayed for 4 days. I returned early to Thailand on the 5th day. I stayed at the Point Boutique Hotel, it's Very girl friendly, as they didn't card my female guests. The room was spacious, but with a small balcony. However the shower was big enough for 3 and the bed was super comfortable. Point Boutique is near the river front and walking distance to bars on 130 and 136st.

I found hotties at the Corner 136 bar, Intoxica bar and 104 Bar. The ladies at 104 bar were dressed to Kill! Perhaps due to low season, I found myself the lone male in the bars. I'd get mobbed by them and got aggressively pushed to buy many lady drinks. I had some Great memorable times at The Corner 136 bar. Pulled ladies from those 3 bars and each gave outstanding BBBJ's.

Food wise, I Recommend the Cadillac Bar and Grill and especially the Riverhouse restaurant. I also recommend the Happy Herb Pizza and the Happy Milkshake at Special Happy Pizza. (There are four Happy pizza places next door to each other.) I had to try it, can't get that topping back home. LOL I enjoyed Phnom Penh and will return and spend more time. There were many places I did not visit.

I was in PP a few days ago for a 10 days trip. That time I tried a new hotel for my first night and as I felt great there I ended up extended my trip there everyday for the same price than I paid the first day. It is the Molyan hotel, located near Naga casino (3 minute by tuktuk from street 136, or 20 minutes walk if you like to walk), I tried that one because it had great reviews on [URL]booking.com[/URL]. The entrance is a bit hard to find as it is located in a small alley between Sothearos boulevard and street 294. It's just a big tower with a skybar on top (I didn't try it), no swimming pool, no spas or any other facilities. The room was big, very clean, every furniture was new, big fridge, a small kitchen, it was like a small apartment. The very good points were the price (29 dollars), located outside of the touristic area, quiet, clean, doors are opened with real keys and not magnetized ones and girl friendly. One thing that I don't like is when the clerk at the reception asks for the girl's ID, here they don't do that so you've got to be careful of the people you bring back to your room and secure all your belongings before going out.

I've only tried a few bars on street 130 and street 136 as in the other streets they were not very inviting. I had the feeling that there were only few customers (mostly expats), and I saw the same trend as is discussed in the Bangkok thread with girls preferring Chinese and Japanese customers over Westerners with some bars even specializing on it (for example bar one three six on street 130, each time I went there, girls were only interested in Chinese guys).

I barfined girls from Tiger (BF 12 dollars, girl 40 dollars Short time), Intoxica (BF 10, girl 50ST), Xanadu (BF 10,50ST), and a former girl from Candy that stopped working there but I managed to meet her one time. You've got to add Ladydrinks to these prices (3.75 dollars to 4 dollars per drink for the girls).

I could still occasionally see a few stunners but they're not always staying at the same place and it seems that they're barfined quickly in the evening by the expats.

I've also been rejected by some girls, one small girl with a killer body after paying her a drink at the butterfly bar in front of corner 136 and for the others I checked with them before buying any drink. So even on low season the odd girl that mostly want to works for LD are still there.

Once I entered a bar (Helicopter) because I saw 3 or 4 doable girls in front, one of them came in with me, and left to go back and sit with her friends within 10 seconds once I ordered a drink. I think I stayed there for 20 minutes alone and none of them would even come to me, didn't put a foot again in that place.

For the last nights it was raining hard during the evening so the bar hunting was less enjoyable but I tend to like this city and these Khmer girls more and more. I find them more submissive than the Thais and they are not as superficial, service can vary but most of them are really nice.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2208072]At first I thought it would be great because you can go back home by walk instead of taking these f*cking tuktuks but later I realized that everybody on the street knows exactly what you do, when you go out, when you come back, who you bring back. These girls have eyes everywhere, and if you like to be discreet, it is not the place to go. I took only one girl back there for a few days but everytime all eyes were on us. The management of this place is the same than the one of the Vacation boutique hotel on street 136. I would go back there only if I have a regular girl and I don't plan to change regularly, because too many eyes are spying on us in this part of the city.[/QUOTE]Download "passapp" and use it. You can call a tuk tuk directly to your location on demand. The trip from any bar to any hotel in the riverside vicinity costs exactly 75 cents. No tips, no haggling, no problem.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2247564]Download "passapp" and use it. You can call a tuk tuk directly to your location on demand. The trip from any bar to any hotel in the riverside vicinity costs exactly 75 cents. No tips, no haggling, no problem.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion, the post that you quoted was from my first trip of this year in July, I didn't have a sim card at that time but I noticed that most people were using that app to get tuktuks. When I came back in October I bought a sim card and used that app also.

It was also a good way to order a car to bring me back to airport as it cost me around 8 dollars for a trip in a very nice car while the previous time I had to order a taxi for 15 dollars.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2247564]Download "passapp" and use it. You can call a tuk tuk directly to your location on demand. The trip from any bar to any hotel in the riverside vicinity costs exactly 75 cents. No tips, no haggling, no problem.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. Not that tuk tuks are expensive in PP but I go way off the beaten track at times and tuk tuks and taxis are not always readily available at some of the restaurants I go to.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2241951]I barfined girls from Tiger (BF 12 dollars, girl 40 dollars Short time)[/QUOTE]

Is this $12 USD barfine common at many bars?

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2241951]Once I entered a bar (Helicopter) because I saw 3 or 4 doable girls in front, one of them came in with me, and left to go back and sit with her friends within 10 seconds once I ordered a drink. I think I stayed there for 20 minutes alone and none of them would even come to me, didn't put a foot again in that place.[/QUOTE]

Helicopter is one of the more fun bars on 136. I'm guessing the girl would have stayed with you if you asked her if she wanted a drink. Same for the others in front. Just drag them in as you walk in the bar.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2251386]Thanks for the tip. Not that tuk tuks are expensive in PP but I go way off the beaten track at times and tuk tuks and taxis are not always readily available at some of the restaurants I go to.[/QUOTE]I prefer Grab (Grab bought out Uber in Cambodia). It doesn't seem PassApp accepts credit cards. Grab can accept both cash and credit cards. Credit cards are so much convenient. Plus it seems you have more protection than the local PassApp.

I was told Pass might be slightly less expensive. I never used Pass, but prices seem similar. Grab was 3000 Riel from Lux to Crycee for a ricksaw. 26900 Riel from Lux to airport for Camry. Great prices, even less than the old local Cambodian prices. I've seen less airport taxis and tuk-tuks around. Grab is here to stay.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2251445]I prefer Grab (Grab bought out Uber in Cambodia). It doesn't seem PassApp accepts credit cards. Grab can accept both cash and credit cards. Credit cards are so much convenient. Plus it seems you have more protection than the local PassApp.

I was told Pass might be slightly less expensive. I never used Pass, but prices seem similar. Grab was 3000 Riel from Lux to Crycee for a ricksaw. 26900 Riel from Lux to airport for Camry. Great prices, even less than the old local Cambodian prices. I've seen less airport taxis and tuk-tuks around. Grab is here to stay.[/QUOTE]Wow! 26900 from the Lux to the airport? That's half of what the hotel charges! Finding a rickshaw (cyclo) seems a bit harder than yesteryear. I'll be heading over in about 6 months and I'm sure I'll be using Grab a LOT!

SS.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2251386]Is this $12 USD barfine common at many bars?
All the other bars that i've been to were charging 10$ except 1 girl in Candy that charged me 15$ in my previous trip (but i think she played me).
Tiger , Route 136 and another bar (maybe Corner 136 ? ) have the same boss so i guess that these 3 bars charge the 12 $ fee barfine.


Helicopter is one of the more fun bars on 136. I'm guessing the girl would have stayed with you if you asked her if she wanted a drink. Same for the others in front. Just drag them in as you walk in the bar.[/QUOTE]She didn't give me the opportunity to ask her anything except her name.

As I entered she came with me, while I sat near the bar I asked her name, asked a beer for me and wanted to talk with her but she was already gone. I didn't give her any bad signal but she decided to not stay with me, that's why I didn't want to call her to come again.

As for the others they clearly saw that I was the only customer inside and yet preferred to stay altogether outside instead of trying to come have a talk with me. It was a complete different atmosphere that most bars in PP.

What's the point of paying a drink for a working girl who doesn't want to talk with you in the first place?

The funny thing is that when I left, a tuktuk stopped just in front of that bar, 3 or 4 westerners came down and were looking for a place to settle, and these same girls were screaming like crazy to have these guys enter the bar.

As I said I didn't put a foot again in that place, they just lost a potential good customer because they were too lazy to do their job.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2241951]I was in PP a few days ago for a 10 days trip. That time I .......(for example bar one three six on street 130, each time I went there, girls were only interested in Chinese guys).

I barfined girls from Tiger (BF 12 dollars, girl 40 dollars Short time), Intoxica (BF 10, girl 50ST), Xanadu (BF 10,50ST), and a former girl from Candy that stopped working there but I managed to meet her one time. You've got to add Ladydrinks to these prices (3.75 dollars to 4 dollars per drink for the girls).

I could still occasionally see a few stunners but they're not always staying at the same place and it seems that they're barfined ..... nice.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I would not pay more then usd30 for ST irregardless whichever girl it may be. In Cambodia, we MUST bargain, that's their culture.

On average, for LT I will pay only usd60 or maximum usd70. In Cambodia, whether we buy fruits, clothing etc etc. Everything must bargain.

Anyway, next Wednesday 5th December I will fly to Phnom Penh again, and of course I will spent some time in Sihanoukville too. In Sihanoukville, I won't pay more then usd50 for LT.

ST in Sihanoukville range from usd5 to usd25. I will be in Sihanoukville next week and I will reconfirm that both the ST and LT price remain unchanged.

In my opinion, I think most Cambodian ladies prefer to serve western people rather then Asians. All asian girls have this similar preference.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2224795]Crycee's website state....
Hmm. $25 is very low. Some of the girls who are desperate might take it. If you don't know the girls, there is no way any of the top 3 or 4 girls will take that offer. Not sure about $30, especially for a new customer.

I believe many girls still quote $40. But will accept $35. Even Ap-pul, the top producer. I'm not sure how low you can negotiate for with the uglyish girls.

The girls prefer the Japanese. They say they come in, and give them $60, $80 or even more..[/QUOTE]Usd $25 for ST is the price most wls in Phnom Penh riverside and in most other parts of Cambodia will accept (excluding those high class night clubs and ktvs such as darling darling in Nagaworld or casa). In what PHNOM, you can get ST at only usd10 to usd15.

In Cambodia, please be street smart. In bargaining, one must also know how to pretend as though you are not interested, so one must project the right body language as to tell them "take it or leave it".

[QUOTE=SacredMan;2255514]ST in Sihanoukville range from usd5 to usd25. I will be in Sihanoukville next week and I will reconfirm that both the ST and LT price remain unchanged.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to you confirming $5ST price in SHV.

[QUOTE]In my opinion, I think most Cambodian ladies prefer to serve western people rather then Asians. All asian girls have this similar preference.[/QUOTE]Unusual perspective. Plenty of Chinese women in MP brothels there now. Maybe you will have some luck with them, not being Asian.

Flamingo Hotel is no longer a hotel. Now apartments.

Stayed at the old Blue Tongue for the first time late October. It is now called Highland Hotel. (Pontoon disco area) Its been remodeled. Elevator. I stayed in Deluxe Double room. Paid $32.77 US per night for five nights. Included free breakfast. Which was okay. Six item Western style plus six item Asian. Six pieces for French toast. Eggs, meat, toast. Girl friendly.

Went to Darlin Darlin. As a person who has been going to Phnom Penh every year for the past ten years. Still in shock on $100 US for a Cambodian girl. Anyway there was about 10-15 girls at 9:30. Just a lot of sevens. Did not see any eights. But did see a couple of eights hanging out in the casino. Darlins is a lounge where a six person band plays. About 75 to 100 seats. It was full. There are two Naga World properties, across the street from each other. Both have big casinos. You want the eight story building. The other Naga World is 15 stories and all lit up with lights.

I miss Walkabout. If you hit that places two or three times a day. You could pull out an occasional 7 for $20. Now it is a noodle shop that does zero business. Somebody should take over the lease and convert it back into a bar. There are a lot of guys looking to hang out in that area. Somebody could put up three televisions for sports. Find a decent cook and you would have a good business. But you need almost the same size as before. With a pool table and 8 small tables and a bar.

[QUOTE=SacredMan;2255531]
In Cambodia, please be street smart. In bargaining, one must also know how to pretend as though you are not interested, so one must project the right body language as to tell them "take it or leave it".[/QUOTE]You can try bargaining, but these days you will only get a small discount to the market price. Like if they ask $25 usd, then you could probably get it for $20, but no less. Unfortunately sex workers in Asia and especially Cambodia are no longer as desperate as they were say 10 to 15 years ago. This is because their economies are doing much better than in the past.

These days it is usually the girl saying to us punters to take it or leave it, not the other way around.

Hello Mongers,

I am new on this site but not new to the mongering scene. I usually frequent Angeles City but the last few visits left a lot to be desired due to price gauging. I am not complaining but simply want to try different places and hence decided to give PP a try this December 10th for a few days.

I came across a you tube video called "Cambodia Nightlife 2018" by Thailand Red and starting from 8:32 minutes in the video there is a bar shown that highly interests me because tons of sexy WG with pointed toe high heels are walking in and out, something I really have a fetish for and can't really find in AC. Can someone please help me out in identifying this specific bar? A neon sign in the background seems to indicate that it must be close to a bar called "Honey Pot". I did not directly link to the you tube video because I am not sure whether it poses a violation of the posting rules.

If someone could help out identifying that particular bar that would be awesome. As an aside, are there lots of WG in PP that wear pointed toe high heels? Really love those gals and am really into them? Do girls are Darlin Darlin wear pointed toe heels?

Thanks and I am looking forward to my trip and will definitely share a detailed report. I am planning to stay in the Lux Riverside and have already read the past 40-50 pages in this thread which are highly informative and I already want to say thanks to all those who contributed and shared their experiences.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Franga;2256136]These days it is usually the girl saying to us punters to take it or leave it, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]Very true, which means it's more and more often the case that you have to tell them you will leave it.

I was at the Yang Mei MP last week, picked a new one who was smiling and nodding from the bowl.

Once I had showered she took 2 calls and 3 messages on her phone, said 'No massage, no nyum nyum, boom boom ok 100'.

She wasn't even that young or cute.

I said '100 Riel?' and got dressed, went downstairs and took one I know. Full service for $30 but the place is really a dump, the women rarely worth that.

When the old Paris Hotel on Kampuchea Krom was reopened as Mango I checked out the massage floor. The Chinese boss / manager told me the prices: maybe $20 for a one hour massage iirc, and he added, 'And just give $100 to the girl'. All the dead Penhballers will be revoving in their graves. In fact, when I was last in DD I was thinking Poppalorn would prefer to be dead than to see this.

One US American mentioned early this year that he had been in DD and said Hello, to a girl sitting at the bar. She snapped back '$20 if you want talk. Pay now. ' he was asking if this was normal practice nowadays. He was not old, was clean cut, polite, perfectly presentable.

Not that long ago the police rounded up some Chinese guys who were handing out flyers advertising 90 minutes with presumably Chinese girls for $180.

Bump. Has Phnom Penh been annihilated by an earthquake?

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2256428]Hello Mongers,

I am new on this site but not new to the mongering scene. I usually frequent Angeles City but the last few visits left a lot to be desired due to price gauging. I am not complaining but simply want to try different places and hence decided to give PP a try this December 10th for a few days.

I came across a you tube video called "Cambodia Nightlife 2018" by Thailand Red and starting from 8:32 minutes in the video there is a bar shown that highly interests me because tons of sexy WG with pointed toe high heels are walking in and out, something I really have a fetish for and can't really find in AC. Can someone please help me out in identifying this specific bar? A neon sign in the background seems to indicate that it must be close to a bar called "Honey Pot". I did not directly link to the you tube video because I am not sure whether it poses a violation of the posting rules.

If someone could help out identifying that particular bar that would be awesome. As an aside, are there lots of WG in PP that wear pointed toe high heels? Really love those gals and am really into them? Do girls are Darlin Darlin wear pointed toe heels?.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2256428]Hello Mongers,
I came across a you tube video called "Cambodia Nightlife 2018" by Thailand Red and starting from 8:32 minutes in the video there is a bar shown that highly interests me because tons of sexy WG with pointed toe high heels are walking in and out, something I really have a fetish for and can't really find in AC. Can someone please help me out in identifying this specific bar? A neon sign in the background seems to indicate that it must be close to a bar called "Honey Pot". I did not directly link to the you tube video because I am not sure whether it poses a violation of the posting rules.

If someone could help out identifying that particular bar that would be awesome. As an aside, are there lots of WG in PP that wear pointed toe high heels? Really love those gals and am really into them?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hi FrancoCan,

I had a look at your video and I think the bar you're talking about is the "one three six" bar on street 130. That bar was usually full of Chinese customers that spend a lot on ladydrinks each time I went there.

Have a good trip and don't forget to report back.

Excellent, thanks a thousand for your help. Will definitely post a report upon return.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2259049]Hi FrancoCan,

I had a look at your video and I think the bar you're talking about is the "one three six" bar on street 130. That bar was usually full of Chinese customers that spend a lot on ladydrinks each time I went there.

Have a good trip and don't forget to report back.[/QUOTE]

Looking for a replacement to AC and Pattaya. Searched the thread- couldn't find any info if bareback is readily available. Thanks for any info.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;2259608]Looking for a replacement to AC and Pattaya. Searched the thread- couldn't find any info if bareback is readily available. Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]Short answer is yes. I don't go bareback, personally. However, my experience is that if you and your partner is nude and she is on top grinding away, grabs your dick as if to put it inside, bareback is definitely on the table. This, even with a condom plainly visible within arm's reach. I have acquaintances who consistently go bareback without any negotiation or discussion taking place prior to agreement to hook up. I have seen one, single reference here that bareback is very common and is SOP unless the customer does not wish to do so.

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2260456]Short answer is yes. I don't go bareback, personally. However, my experience is that if you and your partner is nude and she is on top grinding away, grabs your dick as if to put it inside, bareback is definitely on the table. This, even with a condom plainly visible within arm's reach. I have acquaintances who consistently go bareback without any negotiation or discussion taking place prior to agreement to hook up. I have seen one, single reference here that bareback is very common and is SOP unless the customer does not wish to do so.

SS.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I agree. A funny story that is related to this bareback discussion I wanted to share.

Back in April I found a gem in one of the bars ion St 104. She stayed with me for 2 days. And we were barebacking like rabbits. Then I returned home and as usual kept in touch with the chick for a couple of months, till one day she completely vanished.

Then in October she resurfaced. She told me she had got pregnant because of our sexual congress, but since she did not want the baby she went and aborted it, which did not go exactly well. Sent me lots of pics to show her condition. All believable. It apparently took her 3 months to get well. Now we all have heard this sort of stories in the past.

The funny thing is there was absolutely no mention of any money or any assistance of any sort. She asks me when I will return and I tell her I have no immediate plans. Which is true. She still looks pretty good to me and I would do her bareback again. LOL.

As promised, here my report from my recent PP trip:

I spent only 4 days in PP, stayed at the Lux Riverside on 136 Street, which was quite pleasant. As I booked right before the trip the room I wanted was taken, so I chose the King Suite room. It was very spacious but extremely dark, no ceiling lights. I asked to switch but all they had was the VIP suite but I had to pay 30 dollars extra per night. As I was not on an extreme budget constraint I obliged (after verifying that the VIP suite on Agoda indeed costs more than 30 bucks extra). It was an awesome suite, one large bed room and a humongous living room and kitchen. It included balcony facing the bars right opposite side of the street. As the VIP suite is on the 2nd floor I had a great view of the action from the balcony.

My mission on this trip was to find some spinners who wore sexy lingerie and high heels and boy, PP did not disappoint. I just never found what I was looking for in Thailand or Phili but here in PP a number girls were dressed quite nicely and looked very appealing. Additionally, I wanted to bareback the girls I chose as I really prefer it that way. When I bareback I generally prepare very well to protect myself and the girls. This may sound crazy to some but I go the extra mile when I bareback girls. I started taking my Tenvir-them pills daily 7 days before the trip. Tenvir-them has a high success rate of preventing HIV infection. I ordered my meds from a clinic in Thailand online a while ago and also order refills from there since (happy to share with anyone if you contact me via PM). I also bought HIV-test kits that show results 20 minutes after injecting a blood drop onto the test bed. Then I got STD test kits as well and I bought Morning-After emergency pills for the girls to prevent pregnancy. This is my usual 4-level protection Of course a small risk remains of HIV or STD infections but I believe the risk is incredibly low with the precautions I generally take. I also screen the girls and do not choose those who look like they had too much mileage. It is all worth it for me to shag a sexy girl bare back. Nothing beats that feeling to cum inside of her. In addition, with the girls knowing how I prepare they are much more relaxed in doing bare back and actually enjoy it. Most girls happily obliged my request in begging me to cum inside of them right before I indicated I would be exploding. Some even enjoyed the role play in begging me to make them preggy which really turns me on, while both of us know the chance of that being virtually zero. Anyway, I thought I was well prepared.

Day 1:

I first hit a bar right on the opposite side of the street from Lux Riverside, forgot the name, checked Google street view afterwards but the bar names were outdated and so I unfortunately do not have the name of the bar at hand. Mostly average 5,6 type of girls there but there was one very hot gal, the name she gave herself was Yaya. She told me she is 22, indeed looked quite young. She had this innocent girl friend type of face, but she was definitely experienced and quite commerce minded. She must be in a somewhat different position than the other girls because she ran the cashier and closed the bar each night. In the beginning she just wanted me to buy lady drinks for herself and her friends, but I insisted to just buy one for herself. We played a bit pool and chatted for a while and I then asked her whether I can bar fine her. She turned out to be quite the drama queen, said she liked me and can come with me but not right away as she had to work. Then she changed her mind and said she can go with me for short time and then at 3 am after she closes the bar she can come again and stay long time. This went back and forth and I somewhat lost my patience and said that I can do short time right away else I would need to leave soon and look elsewhere. She quickly changed her mind and agreed to come soon after I left the bar to get back to the hotel. We agreed on 50 bucks for 2 hours and 2 pops, I felt it was a fair price knowing one can negotiate down to 30-40 with some girls but she was young, looked very healthy, had a super cute face, and had this total girl friend experience aura to her. So 50 be it.

She indeed knocked on my door inside the Lux soon after and our session began. It was around 8 pm by then. We first got the STD and HIV tests behind us, I told her I want us both to feel safe and I also showed her my own HIV test which I had taken a few days ago and showed her a photo. She seemed reassured and pleased that I care about health. Although she was a bit of a drama queen initially she turned out to be a super girl friend experience. No issue with deep tongue kissing, she did an amazing blow job although it was never negotiated nor did I ask for it. I gave her some sexy stockings to wear that went well with her heels and she started kissing and licking my nipples which really turned me on. By the time I entered her missionary I had so much precum on my dick it looked like as if I had already cum. As I gave her a good pussy lick before she was super wet. The fucking experience was absolutely mind blowing in that I prefer an innocent girl type of role play. I am not particularly turned on my girls who give the porn star attitude. But when a girl plays shy when she undresses and does not really want to open her legs and pretends as if it was one of her first times then that really fucks with my mind. As a result I blew a huge load into her only minutes after I entered her. Even though she knew I have a pill for her (which I explained how it works as she pretended not to know which I highly doubt) she played surprised I came in her and went to the bath room to wash it out. She never asked or talked about condoms, never asked me to cum outside of her, but to be fair to her I also never mentioned I intended to explode my baby makers in her warm womb. Anyway, she seemed OK soon after. We lay in bed and talked and joked and laughed a lot. Then onto the next session. Same story, except I lasted a lot longer and when I finally blew my load into her I was drenched in sweat and exhausted. We again hugged, kissed and spent what seemed like an eternity in bed. When she finally left it was around 130 am. That was a solid 5. 5 hours with her. Not bad for 50 bucks, 2 pops, and bare back. In sum a very pleasant experience. She asked whether she can come back after she would close the bar around 3 am but I said I would have to work the next day and needed to sleep. That was day 1 ("and I saw all that I did, and it was very good" .

Day 2:

Spent first part of the morning working then roaming two coffee shops and I wanted to try WeChat. I heard about the "find people nearby" function and wanted to give it a try. I hit up couple girls via chat that seemed to be 500 meters or less away. I must have accidentally also contacted couple chicks from China who were with her boyfriends / husbands on holiday as I got a few angry responses in Chinese (had to translate). I then made sure to only contact gals that specified PP as base, one particular gal caught my eyes. Her screen name was xxx and we started chatting a bit and after a while a video chat ensued. She was quite tall, which made me initially suspicious, but her voice was super girly, she claimed she was 27, said she had a daughter, but her body looked at most 25. Very slender, a 8 or 9 face, no doubt about it. I asked whether she could come and meet me for 2 hours and 2 pops for 40, she countered with 60 and we settled on 50. I liked she appeared honest from the start and again very much like girl friend material. She arrived around 30 minutes later and she did not disappoint. Not a single birth mark, no sign she was a mother of a 6 year old. She looked absolutely stunning. A body to dream of, a face that melts the soul away. She fucked with my mind right from the start. When I develop feelings for a girl I bang I generally do a stage 9 cleaner and get out the danger zone ASAP. But not with this girl, I just could not, she was too hot and too GF like. She definitely seemed to genuinely like me even before we started banging. It all started with the general procedure of HIV / STD tests, risking it would turn her off. But she equally seemed reassured and appreciated my "caring mind"; We ended up talking, kissing, and hugging for 2 hours on the large sofa in the living room and she assured me she could stay with me and bang as long as I want later on. Fuck me, I felt I hit the jackpot. Only downside was her shoes and dress was not super inspiring, but even though I brought heels for some of the girls to wear in bed I did not pull out the heels to ask her to wear because I did not want her to change her attitude. Some girls in the past made a 180 degree attitude change when they saw the heels I brought on the trip and asked them to wear and thought it was the heels of my (non existent) wife or girl friend. So, I avoided any such risk and just let it be.

After a quick shower we finally moved to the bed room and OMG, I swear she was a 100% girl friend experience. I licked her very good and she actually came, I will be damned if she faked that one. She was so wet her juice literally dripped into my mouth which turned me totally on. She smelled and tasted very fresh and it was an absolute joy to make her explode with my tongue. Without any hand assistance my little friend slid into her so naturally after much petting, kissing, and licking. It all was very natural. I decided to let go of any plans or intents and to just take it very slowly. It was a truly passionate love making session rather than just raw banging. She left my room at around 2 am. I think I forgot to mention what time she arrived at my hotel. That was 1230 pm, LOL. I could not believe I had just spent the past 13.5 hours in an incredibly fascinating and arousing love making session. I eventually came 3 times inside of her. I can't say I fell for her but I definitely developed some feelings for her. When she left she said she really likes me and she would like to see me the next day even without money involved. I promised to meet her again the next day.

Day 3: A short one, as I decided not to reveal too much for privacy reasons, I do not want to share too much to expose what she shared with me. We basically met up and I took her on a date, lunch, she showed me the King's palace, I took her on a river cruise, we talked a lot and she genuinely seemed interested in me. Perhaps this was my big mistake to take her on a date. It is not that I wanted to play her feelings, I did develop some feelings for her too and could not just let go of it. It did happen a few times in the past and I generally communicated to the girls soon after that a relationship was a no-go. But I just could not with her for whatever reason. Anyway, the day went on and I ended up spending the entire day with her. Everything she mentioned and talked about turned out to be true, I could not spot a single lie or expose a single lie. I was also honest to her and shared part of my past with her. By the way, perhaps I should have spotted her feelings for me a lot earlier, on the previous day right before she left my hotel she promised she would close her WeChat account (before she claimed she did not open the account all too long ago and that she never met a guy on Wechat, obviously, I was suspicious of this claim but as I could not prove otherwise why destroy a good vibe with bad feelings, so I went along). The next morning I checked out of curiosity and she actually really shut down her account. On WeChat one can see whether the other person blocked or really shut down the account. So that also turned out to be true.

Goodness, I violated every monger rule there is with this girl. But it was a conscious decision I made with her. She did not appear to make up any stories, so I reciprocated and was honest with her, too. Do I know for sure that she did not play around too much with other guy as she claimed? I can't tell but then who am I to judge.

Day 4: I met her again and we spent the entire day in and out of bed. We ate dinner together and I promised I would come and visit her again (I live only 3 flight hours away). I intend to keep my promise. I was honest to her and told her I can at this stage not imagine a relationship between us and I definitely cannot move to Cambodia due to my job. It still surprised me that she expressed her feelings to me in the way she did knowing we would most likely just end up being friends.

So, after all I ended up with only 2 girls but it was one of the best short trip experiences. Especially the second girl really worked my dick as if there is no tomorrow. I am still recovering.

Here my verdict, despite my limited PP experience with only 2 gals. Though I toured quite a number bars and saw different bar girls and freelancers: PP is definitely not the cheap hunting ground anymore that old timers talked about in early chat pages in this thread. Understandably so. 40-50 dollars seems to be the norm unless one wants to bed a wrinkly granny. Some girls on the street even have the guts to ask for 100 bucks for short time. When countering with 50 they smirk and walk away. This only shows how saturated the market seems with Korean and above all Chinese punters with lose wallets. Speaking of girls I got a very pleasant impression of Khmer girls. I am totally not, and I mean absolutely not, into Thai girls. Thais for me are very transactional, money centered and I hardly ever had a true girl friend experience in Thailand. Sure one can strike luck in BBK or Phuket but then one can strike luck anywhere. My preferred monger paradise remains Phili (though not Angeles or Manila anymore) but quite a number Khmer girls look stunning, are super kind, and fun to be with. Their English on average is definitely not on par with Pinays (for understandable reasons) and not on par with Thais either. But on average gals on 130 and 136 street look way better than what I encountered in BBK or Phuket in similar venues. I will definitely head back to PP soonish in the new year to keep my promise to meet this second gal and to venture to other places in PP as well. I had a solid plan to bang 1 or 2 Darlin Darlin gals but never even got to Naga World. My dick was so preoccupied with this chick and why pay Hong Kong or Singapore prices when you get lucky and have an 8 or 9 in your bed who is willing to give you the total girl friend experience. At least this gal is really my cup of tea. Perhaps some experienced punters call me stupid to fall for a working girl. Well I did not fall in love but I definitely like her. It happens I guess, it is life. I have punted for 2 decades and it did happen a few times in my past. So, why not. Perhaps there is a continuation to this story.

Anyway, thanks all for sharing so I could prepare for my trip.

If anyone wants to meet up to check out the bar scene or has any recommendations of places to check out please shoot a message, I'll be arriving in PP tomorrow for a week.

[QUOTE=Djs222;2261750]If anyone wants to meet up to check out the bar scene or has any recommendations of places to check out please shoot a message, I'll be arriving in PP tomorrow for a week.[/QUOTE]You have to be a paying member. I can not send a private message to you, when you not are a member.

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]As promised, here my report from my recent PP trip:
I spent only 4 days in PP, stayed at the Lux Riverside on 136 Street, which was quite pleasant.
Anyway, thanks all for sharing so I could prepare for my trip.[/QUOTE]Nice honest report FC. There is nothing wrong with finding THE girl and spending a long time with her. Some like to jump from ship to ship some like to keep one and develop a semi relationship. The idea of a mongering trip is to have fun. What fun means to you is your business. There is no right or wrong. Obviously with your bb MO the chances of picking something up would be lessened by this approach.

I'm sure many would caution your hopes of a long term relationship but YVMD.

You come across as a nice guy and it seems like your personality has given you a most gratifying trip. Nice guys don't always finish last you know!

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202] We agreed on 50 bucks for 2 hours and 2 pops, I felt it was a fair price knowing one can negotiate down to 30-40 with some girls but she was young, looked very healthy, had a super cute face, and had this total girl friend experience aura to her. So 50 be it.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. Why ruin what your gut tells you will be a good time with a young fun cute girl over 10 USD? The price police will say you must negotiate and some others will completely overpay. Sure if the girl is older or uglier then negotiate hard. Top girls deserve top money.

Hi all, I heard that LE Cyrcee had changed location a while back. What is the new address? What about the setup Is there a short time hotel nearby? I will be returning to PP after New Years and am looking forward to hooking uo with my GFs at LE Cyrcee.

Thanks.

Nice FR Franco, honest, factual and no frills. It seems you don't have pm. How to get in touch with you? Need detail about the kit and girls. BTW is that tab belong to Aciclovir? This is generally prescribed for HSV post infection, to contain it. Can you shed some light?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2262103]Top girls deserve top money.[/QUOTE]Top girls will not accept the low end price. IMO, some of the cuties who are not desperate will not even accept $50.

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2262110]Hi all, I heard that LE Cyrcee had changed location a while back. What is the new address? What about the setup Is there a short time hotel nearby? I will be returning to PP after New Years and am looking forward to hooking uo with my GFs at LE Cyrcee.[/QUOTE]182 Street 130. Just around the corner from the old location. [URL]http://www.cyrcee.com/[/URL].

There are short time guesthouses nearby. If you are an old customer and if the bar knows you, then you can use the rooms upstairs.

Although I like to take them to my hotel room for 2 hours. You might have to pay a little more, but it's more comfortable.

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2262110]Hi all, I heard that LE Cyrcee had changed location a while back. What is the new address? What about the setup Is there a short time hotel nearby? I will be returning to PP after New Years and am looking forward to hooking uo with my GFs at LE Cyrcee.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just curious, why would you not ask your GF about the new location? If you are calling the lady your GF then its only fair to assume you would have her contact details on one platform or the other?

Hi, my GFs seldom keep the same phone number for long, and I cannot afford to call from where I am. Hassle, if you know what I mean. I have not been back for almost a yer and a lot can change.

So what is the new location?

Thank you.

So I

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2262438]Just curious, why would you not ask your GF about the new location? If you are calling the lady your GF then its only fair to assume you would have her contact details on one platform or the other?[/QUOTE].

Thank you. Now that's what I call good intell. In the old days I went upstairs all the time but suddenly no more. I know Marc. So I am looking forward. They have some real gems but they don't always like my hotel next to Sorya Mall. I used to stay Flamingo but now that's apartments or so I have heard.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2262208]Top girls will not accept the low end price. IMO, some of the cuties who are not desperate will not even accept $50.

182 Street 130. Just around the corner from the old location. [URL]http://www.cyrcee.com/[/URL].

There are short time guesthouses nearby. If you are an old customer and if the bar knows you, then you can use the rooms upstairs.

Although I like to take them to my hotel room for 2 hours. You might have to pay a little more, but it's more comfortable.[/QUOTE]

Wow! What an awesome report. Thats how you enjoy. You are a true hero! You don't seem to have a PM. Just wanted details on those STD and HIV kits.

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]As promised, here my report from my recent PP trip:

I spent only 4 days in PP, stayed at the Lux Riverside on 136 Street, which was quite pleasant. As I booked right before the trip the room I wanted was taken, so I chose the King Suite room. It was very spacious but extremely dark, no ceiling lights. I asked to switch but all they had was the VIP suite but I had to pay 30 dollars extra per night. As I was not on an extreme budget constraint I obliged (after verifying that the VIP suite on Agoda indeed costs more than 30 bucks extra). It was an awesome suite, one large bed room and a humongous living room and kitchen. It included balcony facing the bars right opposite side of the street. As the VIP suite is on the 2nd floor I had a great view of the action from the balcony.

My mission on this trip was to find some spinners who wore sexy lingerie and high heels and boy, PP did not disappoint. I just never found what I was looking for in Thailand or Phili but here in PP a number girls were dressed quite nicely and looked very appealing. Additionally, I wanted to bareback the girls I chose as I really prefer it that way. When I bareback I generally prepare very well to protect myself and the girls. This may sound crazy to some but I go the extra mile when I bareback girls. I started taking my Tenvir-them pills daily 7 days before the trip. Tenvir-them has a high success rate of preventing HIV infection. I ordered my meds from a clinic in Thailand online a while ago and also order refills from there since (happy to share with anyone if you contact me via PM). I also bought HIV-test kits that show results 20 minutes after injecting a blood drop onto the test bed. Then I got STD test kits as well and I bought Morning-After emergency pills for the girls to prevent pregnancy. This is my usual 4-level protection Of course a small risk remains of HIV or STD infections but I believe the risk is incredibly low with the precautions I generally take. I also screen the girls and do not choose those who look like they had too much mileage. It is all worth it for me to shag a sexy girl bare back. Nothing beats that feeling to cum inside of her. In addition, with the girls knowing how I prepare they are much more relaxed in doing bare back and actually enjoy it. Most girls happily obliged my request in begging me to cum inside of them right before I indicated I would be exploding. Some even enjoyed the role play in begging me to make them preggy which really turns me on, while both of us know the chance of that being virtually zero. Anyway, I thought I was well prepared.

Day 1:

I first hit a bar right on the opposite side of the street from Lux Riverside, forgot the name, checked Google street view afterwards but the bar names were outdated and so I unfortunately do not have the name of the bar at hand. Mostly average 5,6 type of girls there but there was one very hot gal, the name she gave herself was Yaya. She told me she is 22, indeed looked quite young. She had this innocent girl friend type of face, but she was definitely experienced and quite commerce minded. She must be in a somewhat different position than the other girls because she ran the cashier and closed the bar each night. In the beginning she just wanted me to buy lady drinks for herself and her friends, but I insisted to just buy one for herself. We played a bit pool and chatted for a while and I then asked her whether I can bar fine her. She turned out to be quite the drama queen, said she liked me and can come with me but not right away as she had to work. Then she changed her mind and said she can go with me for short time and then at 3 am after she closes the bar she can come again and stay long time. This went back and forth and I somewhat lost my patience and said that I can do short time right away else I would need to leave soon and look elsewhere. She quickly changed her mind and agreed to come soon after I left the bar to get back to the hotel. We agreed on 50 bucks for 2 hours and 2 pops, I felt it was a fair price knowing one can negotiate down to 30-40 with some girls but she was young, looked very healthy, had a super cute face, and had this total girl friend experience aura to her. So 50 be it.

She indeed knocked on my door inside the Lux soon after and our session began. It was around 8 pm by then. We first got the STD and HIV tests behind us, I told her I want us both to feel safe and I also showed her my own HIV test which I had taken a few days ago and showed her a photo. She seemed reassured and pleased that I care about health. Although she was a bit of a drama queen initially she turned out to be a super girl friend experience. No issue with deep tongue kissing, she did an amazing blow job although it was never negotiated nor did I ask for it. I gave her some sexy stockings to wear that went well with her heels and she started kissing and licking my nipples which really turned me on. By the time I entered her missionary I had so much precum on my dick it looked like as if I had already cum. As I gave her a good pussy lick before she was super wet. The fucking experience was absolutely mind blowing in that I prefer an innocent girl type of role play. I am not particularly turned on my girls who give the porn star attitude. But when a girl plays shy when she undresses and does not really want to open her legs and pretends as if it was one of her first times then that really fucks with my mind. As a result I blew a huge load into her only minutes after I entered her. Even though she knew I have a pill for her (which I explained how it works as she pretended not to know which I highly doubt) she played surprised I came in her and went to the bath room to wash it out. She never asked or talked about condoms, never asked me to cum outside of her, but to be fair to her I also never mentioned I intended to explode my baby makers in her warm womb. Anyway, she seemed OK soon after. We lay in bed and talked and joked and laughed a lot. Then onto the next session. Same story, except I lasted a lot longer and when I finally blew my load into her I was drenched in sweat and exhausted. We again hugged, kissed and spent what seemed like an eternity in bed. When she finally left it was around 130 am. That was a solid 5. 5 hours with her. Not bad for 50 bucks, 2 pops, and bare back. In sum a very pleasant experience. She asked whether she can come back after she would close the bar around 3 am but I said I would have to work the next day and needed to sleep. That was day 1 ("and I saw all that I did, and it was very good" .

Day 2:

Spent first part of the morning working then roaming two coffee shops and I wanted to try WeChat. I heard about the "find people nearby" function and wanted to give it a try. I hit up couple girls via chat that seemed to be 500 meters or less away. I must have accidentally also contacted couple chicks from China who were with her boyfriends / husbands on holiday as I got a few angry responses in Chinese (had to translate). I then made sure to only contact gals that specified PP as base, one particular gal caught my eyes. Her screen name was xxx and we started chatting a bit and after a while a video chat ensued. She was quite tall, which made me initially suspicious, but her voice was super girly, she claimed she was 27, said she had a daughter, but her body looked at most 25. Very slender, a 8 or 9 face, no doubt about it. I asked whether she could come and meet me for 2 hours and 2 pops for 40, she countered with 60 and we settled on 50. I liked she appeared honest from the start and again very much like girl friend material. She arrived around 30 minutes later and she did not disappoint. Not a single birth mark, no sign she was a mother of a 6 year old. She looked absolutely stunning. A body to dream of, a face that melts the soul away. She fucked with my mind right from the start. When I develop feelings for a girl I bang I generally do a stage 9 cleaner and get out the danger zone ASAP. But not with this girl, I just could not, she was too hot and too GF like. She definitely seemed to genuinely like me even before we started banging. It all started with the general procedure of HIV / STD tests, risking it would turn her off. But she equally seemed reassured and appreciated my "caring mind"; We ended up talking, kissing, and hugging for 2 hours on the large sofa in the living room and she assured me she could stay with me and bang as long as I want later on. Fuck me, I felt I hit the jackpot. Only downside was her shoes and dress was not super inspiring, but even though I brought heels for some of the girls to wear in bed I did not pull out the heels to ask her to wear because I did not want her to change her attitude. Some girls in the past made a 180 degree attitude change when they saw the heels I brought on the trip and asked them to wear and thought it was the heels of my (non existent) wife or girl friend. So, I avoided any such risk and just let it be.

After a quick shower we finally moved to the bed room and OMG, I swear she was a 100% girl friend experience. I licked her very good and she actually came, I will be damned if she faked that one. She was so wet her juice literally dripped into my mouth which turned me totally on. She smelled and tasted very fresh and it was an absolute joy to make her explode with my tongue. Without any hand assistance my little friend slid into her so naturally after much petting, kissing, and licking. It all was very natural. I decided to let go of any plans or intents and to just take it very slowly. It was a truly passionate love making session rather than just raw banging. She left my room at around 2 am. I think I forgot to mention what time she arrived at my hotel. That was 1230 pm, LOL. I could not believe I had just spent the past 13.5 hours in an incredibly fascinating and arousing love making session. I eventually came 3 times inside of her. I can't say I fell for her but I definitely developed some feelings for her. When she left she said she really likes me and she would like to see me the next day even without money involved. I promised to meet her again the next day.

Day 3: A short one, as I decided not to reveal too much for privacy reasons, I do not want to share too much to expose what she shared with me. We basically met up and I took her on a date, lunch, she showed me the King's palace, I took her on a river cruise, we talked a lot and she genuinely seemed interested in me. Perhaps this was my big mistake to take her on a date. It is not that I wanted to play her feelings, I did develop some feelings for her too and could not just let go of it. It did happen a few times in the past and I generally communicated to the girls soon after that a relationship was a no-go. But I just could not with her for whatever reason. Anyway, the day went on and I ended up spending the entire day with her. Everything she mentioned and talked about turned out to be true, I could not spot a single lie or expose a single lie. I was also honest to her and shared part of my past with her. By the way, perhaps I should have spotted her feelings for me a lot earlier, on the previous day right before she left my hotel she promised she would close her WeChat account (before she claimed she did not open the account all too long ago and that she never met a guy on Wechat, obviously, I was suspicious of this claim but as I could not prove otherwise why destroy a good vibe with bad feelings, so I went along). The next morning I checked out of curiosity and she actually really shut down her account. On WeChat one can see whether the other person blocked or really shut down the account. So that also turned out to be true.

Goodness, I violated every monger rule there is with this girl. But it was a conscious decision I made with her. She did not appear to make up any stories, so I reciprocated and was honest with her, too. Do I know for sure that she did not play around too much with other guy as she claimed? I can't tell but then who am I to judge.

Day 4: I met her again and we spent the entire day in and out of bed. We ate dinner together and I promised I would come and visit her again (I live only 3 flight hours away). I intend to keep my promise. I was honest to her and told her I can at this stage not imagine a relationship between us and I definitely cannot move to Cambodia due to my job. It still surprised me that she expressed her feelings to me in the way she did knowing we would most likely just end up being friends.

So, after all I ended up with only 2 girls but it was one of the best short trip experiences. Especially the second girl really worked my dick as if there is no tomorrow. I am still recovering.

Here my verdict, despite my limited PP experience with only 2 gals. Though I toured quite a number bars and saw different bar girls and freelancers: PP is definitely not the cheap hunting ground anymore that old timers talked about in early chat pages in this thread. Understandably so. 40-50 dollars seems to be the norm unless one wants to bed a wrinkly granny. Some girls on the street even have the guts to ask for 100 bucks for short time. When countering with 50 they smirk and walk away. This only shows how saturated the market seems with Korean and above all Chinese punters with lose wallets. Speaking of girls I got a very pleasant impression of Khmer girls. I am totally not, and I mean absolutely not, into Thai girls. Thais for me are very transactional, money centered and I hardly ever had a true girl friend experience in Thailand. Sure one can strike luck in BBK or Phuket but then one can strike luck anywhere. My preferred monger paradise remains Phili (though not Angeles or Manila anymore) but quite a number Khmer girls look stunning, are super kind, and fun to be with. Their English on average is definitely not on par with Pinays (for understandable reasons) and not on par with Thais either. But on average gals on 130 and 136 street look way better than what I encountered in BBK or Phuket in similar venues. I will definitely head back to PP soonish in the new year to keep my promise to meet this second gal and to venture to other places in PP as well. I had a solid plan to bang 1 or 2 Darlin Darlin gals but never even got to Naga World. My dick was so preoccupied with this chick and why pay Hong Kong or Singapore prices when you get lucky and have an 8 or 9 in your bed who is willing to give you the total girl friend experience. At least this gal is really my cup of tea. Perhaps some experienced punters call me stupid to fall for a working girl. Well I did not fall in love but I definitely like her. It happens I guess, it is life. I have punted for 2 decades and it did happen a few times in my past. So, why not. Perhaps there is a continuation to this story.

Anyway, thanks all for sharing so I could prepare for my trip.[/QUOTE]

I'm preparing for my PP Trip in November 2019 and I'm looking for a nice Hotel.

I searched in the Internet and also RTFF but could not really find what I'm looking for.

So I'm asking for some help:

I want a Hotel / Guesthouse (anyone had experience with Airbnb in PP?) that is near Golden Sorya Mall and below 35 $.

Important is a in-Room Safe and Girlfriendly. Best without annoying ID Checks.

You Guys can recommend something nice?

It's called Tenvir-E M. It's the household standard of "prep" (google it) medication. I never experienced any side effects so far. Prep is used as profilaxis in order to prevent infection.

[QUOTE=DxbStallion;2262136]Nice FR Franco, honest, factual and no frills. It seems you don't have pm. How to get in touch with you? Need detail about the kit and girls. BTW is that tab belong to Aciclovir? This is generally prescribed for HSV post infection, to contain it. Can you shed some light?[/QUOTE]

Not sure why PM does not work. I am new here. Need to be a paying member perhaps? The kids I use are manufactured by fujibio in Japan. I think you can get them on eBay.

[QUOTE=Sandy1984;2262586]Wow! What an awesome report. Thats how you enjoy. You are a true hero! You don't seem to have a PM. Just wanted details on those STD and HIV kits.[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================

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Sorry, its called Teno. E M. I ordered from pulse-[URL]clinic.com[/URL] in Thailand. They can send by regular or express mail which sometimes comes very handy.

[QUOTE=DxbStallion;2262136]Nice FR Franco, honest, factual and no frills. It seems you don't have pm. How to get in touch with you? Need detail about the kit and girls. BTW is that tab belong to Aciclovir? This is generally prescribed for HSV post infection, to contain it. Can you shed some light?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]As promised, here my report from my recent PP trip:

I spent only 4 days in PP, stayed at the Lux Riverside on 136 Street, which was quite pleasant. As I booked right before the trip the room I wanted was taken, so I chose the King Suite room. It was very spacious but extremely dark, no ceiling lights. I asked to switch but all they had was the VIP suite but I had to pay 30 dollars extra per night. As I was not on an extreme budget constraint I obliged (after verifying that the VIP suite on Agoda indeed costs more than 30 bucks extra). It was an awesome suite, one large bed room and a humongous living room and kitchen. It included balcony facing the bars right opposite side of the street. As the VIP suite is on the 2nd floor I had a great view of the action from the balcony.[/QUOTE]Nice, comprehensive report! I have a couple of questions, as I have also enjoyed staying at the Lux several times. What was the room number and price for the VIP suite? Was it set back from 136 in the tower part of the hotel or above the lobby area? Did you get much noise from the street? Thanks.

Sam S.

Room 268, above the lobby facing 136 street. I did not hear much noise.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2263169]Nice, comprehensive report! I have a couple of questions, as I have also enjoyed staying at the Lux several times. What was the room number and price for the VIP suite? Was it set back from 136 in the tower part of the hotel or above the lobby area? Did you get much noise from the street? Thanks.

Sam S.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2262633]I'm preparing for my PP Trip in November 2019 and I'm looking for a nice Hotel.

I searched in the Internet and also RTFF but could not really find what I'm looking for.

So I'm asking for some help:

I want a Hotel / Guesthouse (anyone had experience with Airbnb in PP?) that is near Golden Sorya Mall and below 35 $.

Important is a in-Room Safe and Girlfriendly. Best without annoying ID Checks.

You Guys can recommend something nice?[/QUOTE]Highland Hotel. Deluxe double Room. Went thru Expedia. Paid around $32 included a decent breakfast. Place has been remodel. Used to be Blue Tongue. I was there for five days late October. In room safe, girl friendly, no ID grab. One night one guy said something. I just ignored. A block up from Pontoon.

The Golden Sorya Barcenter is now new building and nothing ladies there. Very quiet!

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2264537]The Golden Sorya Barcenter is now new building and nothing ladies there. Very quiet![/QUOTE]Where did the freelancers, from there, hang out now.

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2262637]Sorry, its called Teno. E M. I ordered from pulse-[URL]clinic.com[/URL] in Thailand. They can send by regular or express mail which sometimes comes very handy.[/QUOTE]You can also get this at pharmacies in Phnom Penh. Not very difficult to find. Just walk up and ask for it.

As I have been preparing for my trip to PP in March, I was watching youtube vids. One video had a fairly hot looking dwarf lady- the caption said she works at Candy Bar. The vid was posted last year, by Bangkok112 I think.

I was wondering if anyone has seen her there or if she still works there or anywhere else?

Danny.

[QUOTE=RotoDanny;2272712]As I have been preparing for my trip to PP in March, I was watching youtube vids. One video had a fairly hot looking dwarf lady- the caption said she works at Candy Bar. The vid was posted last year, by Bangkok112 I think.

I was wondering if anyone has seen her there or if she still works there or anywhere else?

Danny.[/QUOTE]She's one of a few dwarfs in the bars. There's another with one arm, and a couple of deaf mutes. Is this your kink?

Candy is a major rip off bar with a lot of really nasty women and ladyboys inside. Don't say you weren't warned.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2272764]She's one of a few dwarfs in the bars. There's another with one arm, and a couple of deaf mutes. Is this your kink?

Candy is a major rip off bar with a lot of really nasty women and ladyboys inside. Don't say you weren't warned.[/QUOTE]Thanks Rick.

Something different is my kink, dwarf is not checked off yet.

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2264537]The Golden Sorya Barcenter is now new building and nothing ladies there. Very quiet![/QUOTE]It was also quiet in late October.

- Secrets on Street 136 is interesting. Upscale with a live band. Nice furnishings. $20 barfine and $3 draft beers, compared to 10 and 1.50 for many hostess bars. The entrance-way is larger than most hostess bars. There are many girls there, with not that many customers. The girl's salary is higher than the other bars. Between 200-250 depending on their English skills. Not sure how the bar will make money.

- Another interesting bar is the Phnom Penh Sharaton on Street 136. There's a few decent 18 year olds that hang out there. But they are super aggressive in pushing ladydrinks for herself and her friends. But if you don't mind, they will be fun since they allow you to fondle their breasts. One didn't wear underwear. They asked for 40. Probably can counter-offer. They move between the bar next door called Phnom Penh Hiltton.

[QUOTE=MikeM488;2273012]It was also quiet in late October.[/QUOTE]

Also quiet in December. At midnight, only a few girls around. They remodeled, but most of the stalls are not rented yet. The sign said between 450-500 per month.

Fuck the Grand Waterfront Hotel on Street 130! They charge $10 extra for the second girl you bring in to your hotel room. Only hotel in Phnom Penh that I know of that does that. We cannot let Phnom Penh become like Pattaya, where it's free if you bring in one, but they charge you for each additional girl. It sucks if you like threesomes.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2273084]- Secrets on Street 136 is interesting. Upscale with a live band. Nice furnishings. $20 barfine and $3 draft beers, compared to 10 and 1.50 for many hostess bars. The entrance-way is larger than most hostess bars. There are many girls there, with not that many customers. The girl's salary is higher than the other bars. Between 200-250 depending on their English skills. Not sure how the bar will make money.[/QUOTE]Somewhat trying to copy Secrets in Pattaya, which is weird because that place looks to be on its last leg. $20 bar fine is ridiculous. You can use the rooms upstairs in the hotel though, just costs.

$250 a month isn't unheard of anymore. There are some other bars that pay that. Wages in general have really gone up in the last few years. Sweatshop salaries are up something like 400 percent in less than a decade.

[QUOTE] Another interesting bar is the Phnom Penh Sharaton on Street 136. There's a few decent 18 year olds that hang out there. But they are super aggressive in pushing ladydrinks for herself and her friends. But if you don't mind, they will be fun since they allow you to fondle their breasts. One didn't wear underwear. They asked for 40. Probably can counter-offer. They move between the bar next door called Phnom Penh Hiltton.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's an expansion of the Phnom Penh Hiltton, which is a grimey little bar but always fun. I can confirm that they'll go short time for 25 or 30 if you know how to play the game. If not, just pay 40 and be happy about I guess. As you say a lot of mileage possible right in the bar with some of them. Can even see guys getting a lot more than touching in there. Just watch out for the ladyboy.

[QUOTE]Also quiet in December. At midnight, only a few girls around. They remodeled, but most of the stalls are not rented yet. The sign said between 450-500 per month.[/QUOTE]GSM is dead. They were first renting those out for 1500 or something. Now they're down to 450 listed. Which means you could negotiate for even less, because nobody pays sticker price in Cambodia except foreigners who don't know any better. Place is over half empty. Doubt it will come back. Those days seem to be coming to a close. Make way for big spenders from China.

[QUOTE=RotoDanny;2272876]Thanks Rick.

Something different is my kink, dwarf is not checked off yet.[/QUOTE]Check Ben's Bar, if it's still around. Last time I was in there it looked like the circus was in town.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2264667]Where did the freelancers, from there, hang out now.[/QUOTE]There's freelancers all over the riverfront. Some very good looking. GSM was remodeled and you may find a few girls around. They come and go.

If anybody has a recommendation for bars, pubs, clubs that has a large assortment of imported beers to try, I'd like to hear them. Thanks.

SS.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;2273332]There's freelancers all over the riverfront. Some very good looking. GSM was remodeled and you may find a few girls around. They come and go.[/QUOTE]Where on the Riverside? I have seen a few freelancers but all looked like drug addicts. Is there a specific time? I don't think I have checked out Riverside after 8 pm or so.

[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2276333]Where on the Riverside? I have seen a few freelancers but all looked like drug addicts.[/QUOTE]That would be them. You won't find anything else there.

Stayed at the Point Boutique Hotel on 130St. For a week in early January- this hotel is located very close to riverside (believe only 1 or 2 buildings stand between a river view and the hotel). The hotel was so-so; stayed in room 101 and it had a balcony. The Good: room was clean, shower worked great and it was a large room. Girl friendly, they took the ladies ID upon arrival and called after departure. The rooftop bar was beautiful, as you could see the whole skyline. Price was between $32-34 a night. Bad: About a half-inch gap between the balcony door and the ground, this led to noise coming in as well as ants. The noise is not bad, could fall asleep very easily. Had to watch where I left drinks, could not leave them out on the counter opened due to ants. Also, the fridge did not work (most negative thing about the hotel).

Overall rating 3/5. Going to try the Lux next time!

[QUOTE=Rolltide4523;2277404]Had to watch where I left drinks, could not leave them out on the counter opened due to ants. Also, the fridge did not work (most negative thing about the hotel).

Overall rating 3/5. Going to try the Lux next time![/QUOTE]Sorry but any room with ants or cockroaches gets a 1/5 imo.

I always considered this hotel because it was cheap. Now I know why. Thanks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2278370]Sorry but any room with ants or cockroaches gets a 1/5 imo.

I always considered this hotel because it was cheap. Now I know why. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Well you guys must be very unlucky! I have stayed here three times, always with a high floor room, at the back of the hotel.

I think its a great place to stay! And never spotted ants or any bugs! But I never leave out anything that may attract them.

Very girl friendly, great location, just could do with a pool! Well I will be there again next week-end. Looking forward.

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]As promised, here my report from my recent PP trip:

I spent only 4 days in PP, stayed at the Lux Riverside on 136 Street, which was quite pleasant. As I booked right before the trip the room I wanted was taken, so I chose the King Suite room. It was very spacious but extremely dark, no ceiling lights. I asked to switch but all they had was the VIP suite but I had to pay 30 dollars extra per night. As I was not on an extreme budget constraint I obliged (after verifying that the VIP suite on Agoda indeed costs more than 30 bucks extra). It was an awesome suite, one large bed room and a humongous living room and kitchen. It included balcony facing the bars right opposite side of the street. As the VIP suite is on the 2nd floor I had a great view of the action from the balcony..[/QUOTE]I think your a lucky man, and I would do the same! Good luck to you.

Currently staying at Adore Hotel which is right on corner of Riverside and 136-to try and put it nicely, the place is an absolute shithole, and yes whilst I am staying in a cheap $25 buck room, still with that in mind, I wouldn't recommend this place to a freshly released Indonesian prisoner.

Will give a more detailed report on trip in a couple of weeks when done BUT the bar scene is still very fickle and your experience and enjoyment within the same bar can change dramatically from one day to the next, so I'd strongly question the logic of going to a certain bar because someone posted a good review about that bar here four weeks ago?? Hey it might be awesome, but conversely it might also be very dull! It's definately a lottery.

I may sound somewhat negative, and you can put that down to the awfully depressing drink I just had at Angry Birds bar, the sad sack bar girl was so flat and off putting about her wonderful Belgium sponsor who she doesn't trust and blah blah blah. Felt like pulling teeth to even get her to half smile, and my Khmer is pretty reasonable!

Oh well, scratch it off the list, or who knows, tomorrow same bar, same time could be awesome?

Anyways, more detailed report of adventures to come upon conclusion of trip.

Happy punting and stay safe.

DingoD.

[QUOTE=Rolltide4523;2277404]Stayed at the Point Boutique Hotel on 130St. For a week in early January- this hotel is located very close to riverside (believe only 1 or 2 buildings stand between a river view and the hotel). The hotel was so-so; stayed in room 101 and it had a balcony. The Good: room was clean, shower worked great and it was a large room. Girl friendly, they took the ladies ID upon arrival and called after departure. The rooftop bar was beautiful, as you could see the whole skyline. Price was between $32-34 a night. Bad: About a half-inch gap between the balcony door and the ground, this led to noise coming in as well as ants. The noise is not bad, could fall asleep very easily. Had to watch where I left drinks, could not leave them out on the counter opened due to ants. Also, the fridge did not work (most negative thing about the hotel).

Overall rating 3/5. Going to try the Lux next time![/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I was going go try this hotel next time I was in PP, but I think I will pass on it. I usually stay at Lux, but the girls all know where I stay and some have started stalking me there. Will be fun.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2278960]Currently staying at Adore Hotel which is right on corner of Riverside and 136-to try and put it nicely, the place is an absolute shithole, and yes whilst I am staying in a cheap $25 buck room, still with that in mind, I wouldn't recommend this place to a freshly released Indonesian prisoner.

Will give a more detailed report on trip in a couple of weeks when done BUT the bar scene is still very fickle and your experience and enjoyment within the same bar can change dramatically from one day to the next, so I'd strongly question the logic of going to a certain bar because someone posted a good review about that bar here four weeks ago?? Hey it might be awesome, but conversely it might also be very dull! It's definately a lottery.

I may sound somewhat negative, and you can put that down to the awfully depressing drink I just had at Angry Birds bar, the sad sack bar girl was so flat and off putting about her wonderful Belgium sponsor who she doesn't trust and blah blah blah. Felt like pulling teeth to even get her to half smile, and my Khmer is pretty reasonable!

Oh well, scratch it off the list, or who knows, tomorrow same bar, same time could be awesome?

Anyways, more detailed report of adventures to come upon conclusion of trip.

Happy punting and stay safe.

DingoD.[/QUOTE]That bar sucks. I would say avoid that street completely. Go to Phnom Penh Hillton, Top Ten, Rose Bar, Cyrcee.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2279144]That bar sucks. I would say avoid that street completely. Go to Phnom Penh Hillton, Top Ten, Rose Bar, Cyrcee.[/QUOTE]Yeah in my experience Angry Bird has been a dud, but then I have read other people on here rating it highly, so it all goes back to my original point about the fickle and ever changing nature of these bars.

I know you know the scene well, I'm a twice a year visitor with above average Khmer language skills so things generally turn out fun, just this girl last night was PAINFUL!!

Perhaps should've just stuck to Intoxica next door.

Cyrcee in its new location definately on the menu at some point. Still in my opinion the best bang for buck, know what you are getting bar in Phnom Penh. Girls are there to fuck and they are mostly quiet skilled at what they do!!

[QUOTE=DingoD;2279223]Yeah in my experience Angry Bird has been a dud, but then I have read other people on here rating it highly, so it all goes back to my original point about the fickle and ever changing nature of these bars.

I know you know the scene well, I'm a twice a year visitor with above average Khmer language skills so things generally turn out fun, just this girl last night was PAINFUL!!

Perhaps should've just stuck to Intoxica next door.

Cyrcee in its new location definately on the menu at some point. Still in my opinion the best bang for buck, know what you are getting bar in Phnom Penh. Girls are there to fuck and they are mostly quiet skilled at what they do!![/QUOTE]At least one of the guys posting about Angry Birds here in the past was the owner of the bar. So no surprise there.

Two guys own most of the bars on that block. And they all suck.

Any reports on this following places? Mean hour hotel, soul city, 252 massage?

[QUOTE=Cadevere;2280166]Any reports on this following places? Mean hour hotel, soul city, 252 massage?[/QUOTE]At a guess l'd say there would've been 50 mentions of this place on 252 in the past 2 or 3 years! Do some reading and research my friend.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2280292]At a guess l'd say there would've been 50 mentions of this place on 252 in the past 2 or 3 years! Do some reading and research my friend.[/QUOTE]Just checking new reports my friend. If there is any.

[QUOTE=Cadevere;2280618]Just checking new reports my friend. If there is any.[/QUOTE]Any reason you couldn't first do a simple search before asking?

I'm back in PP for a visit. Prices are up from 5 years ago, stands to reason. I haven't found a particular place to hang out. I got a steady a few days ago, so now relaxation time. I have been going to Sharky's just because it's quiet and comfortable.

[QUOTE=PommyChris;2278705]Well you guys must be very unlucky! I have stayed here three times, always with a high floor room, at the back of the hotel.

I think its a great place to stay! And never spotted ants or any bugs! But I never leave out anything that may attract them.

Very girl friendly, great location, just could do with a pool! Well I will be there again next week-end. Looking forward.[/QUOTE]My guess it was due to me being on the 1st floor. They really didn't bother me as much as the fridge not working- having cold water to come back to is a great feeling. Have a great time in PP!

[QUOTE=SlowAndEasy;2276333]Where on the Riverside? I have seen a few freelancers but all looked like drug addicts. Is there a specific time? I don't think I have checked out Riverside after 8 pm or so.[/QUOTE]LOL. Riverside freelancers are often poor country bumpkins so they ain't ever going to win beauty contests. In fact some live on the two small boats that seem permanently moored there (I haven't been here for 2 years BTW). Some of these girls are factory workers here to make easy money, others are down on their luck, and some are probably homeless. Afternoon works. I have seen a few hotties early evening but they were the exception. I wouldn't bother after dark as some of these girls have light fingers and others and packing mear if you get my drift. There used to be so SYTs around the local what, walking around looking for customers. Personally I prefer the clubs or secret bar for quick take away (if it still exists). Wechat probably works but be watchful for lady boys.

I'm a new member here but I've been lurking around for years. I wanted to tell you guys about a few experiences I've had in Phnom Penh.

Massage shop. The normal massage shops you can find everywhere, charges 10 000 riel up to $5 for a massage. The ones I've had were $2.5 & $3. The times I went I was so drunk I can barely remember these, but 1st time I got a handjob for $10 and the other time I had sex with the lady for $25, could probably have bargained down the last one as it was kind of lame. The woman didn't let me touch her breasts etc. Etc. Overall not a good experience. Also, remember to keep your wallet with you or in sight at all times, some of these places will relieve you from your wallet very quickly.

I also took a girl from Pontoon once. That was before I knew much of the city, paid $70 for the whole night. Now after being here a bit longer I realise that it probably was too much, but we had a decent amount of fun that time (probably blew 4 loads in her).

So, now to the real stories. Intoxica has some hot-ass girls. Was drooling over a few Chinese-looking ones for a long time but the place is very busy and the girls are always occupied and hanging out with Chinese men. However, I met one girl from there, who was quite cute, and she asked for around $70 for LT. I countered with $50 and off we went. I ended up going back a few times and we always had an alright time. Romantic enough for me! Later she blocked me on social media, not sure why, but it's alright, she might have given me herpes anyways.

Another time I went to Cyrcee and I was expecting to meet semi-fat, old and ugly hags, but I was very wrong. The line-up there is not bad at all. Also, the girls are straight to the point, so for the shy guys, you will have girls lined up for threesomes within minutes.

I actually ended up banging one of the girls from Cyrcee. I paid $10 for the barfine, $7 for the hotel and $40 for the girl. I tried to negotiate for 2 shots, but didn't work. I thought she was hot enough, so I went anyways. Hotel opposite of the bar was surprisingly nice and clean. The girl looked a bit different in lights outside of the bar, but still a solid 8 in my opinion. She showered me and then we went to bed for the deed. Blew me well, kissed and in the end I did her in several different positions. She washed me and still gave me a 20 minutes massage after that. Great experience overall. She was professional, but the kind of girl that was good at her work, not good at making people believe she was into it. Nevertheless, I liked it. She asked for more tips, I just laughed it off. Great humour that girl.

I also need to mention that upon entering Cyrcee it took less than a minute before this girl was suggesting a threesome with her friend. I might go back for that another time.

I'm a fearless guy and I'll probably be going to a lot of different places in the future. I'm happy to keep you guys updated.

[QUOTE=RakeSeries2;2281832]LOL. Riverside freelancers are often poor country bumpkins so they ain't ever going to win beauty contests. In fact some live on the two small boats that seem permanently moored there (I haven't been here for 2 years BTW). Some of these girls are factory workers here to make easy money, others are down on their luck, and some are probably homeless. Afternoon works. I have seen a few hotties early evening but they were the exception. I wouldn't bother after dark as some of these girls have light fingers and others and packing mear if you get my drift. There used to be so SYTs around the local what, walking around looking for customers. Personally I prefer the clubs or secret bar for quick take away (if it still exists). Wechat probably works but be watchful for lady boys.[/QUOTE]Country bumpkins living on two small boats who are factory workers and homeless too. On the side they pick pockets. No I wasn't referring to that group. Never met up with them. I'm referring to some very doable chicks on the benches around 136 or thereabouts. After dark is fine. I wouldn't go flashing around a wad of cash anywhere in PP. The chicks are there they'll find you. Or go to a bar and get hussled for drinks. Your choice.

[QUOTE=JimBocohones;2284407]However, I met one girl from there, I ended up going back a few times and we always had an alright time. Romantic enough for me! Later she blocked me on social media, not sure why, but it's alright, she might have given me herpes anyways. I'm a fearless guy and I'll probably be going to a lot of different places in the future. I'm happy to keep you guys updated.[/QUOTE]She probably thought You gave it to her. LOL.

BTW, Incubation period: For oral herpes, the amount of time between contact with the virus and the appearance of symptoms, the incubation period, is 2-12 days. Most people average about 4 days. Duration of illness: Signs and symptoms will last 2-3 weeks.

For Genital Herpes, The first symptoms usually appear within 1 or 2 weeksand as late as 3 weeksafter contact with an infected person. The lesions of herpes labialis usually last for 7 to 10 days, then begin to resolve. Herpes can only be passed through direct skin-to-skin contact with the infected area such as kissing, oral sex, genital-to-genital rubbing, vaginal, and anal sex.

Herpes (both oral & genital) can be spread even when there are no symptoms or sores. This is called asymptomatic shedding. It's the Gift that keeps on Giving. Are you SURE you got it from her?

Since you've been lurking for years, how old is this trip report? And thanks for the informative report.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2273108]Somewhat trying to copy Secrets in Pattaya, which is weird because that place looks to be on its last leg. $20 bar fine is ridiculous. You can use the rooms upstairs in the hotel though, just costs.

$250 a month isn't unheard of anymore. There are some other bars that pay that. Wages in general have really gone up in the last few years. Sweatshop salaries are up something like 400 percent in less than a decade.

Yes, it's an expansion of the Phnom Penh Hiltton, which is a grimey little bar but always fun. I can confirm that they'll go short time for 25 or 30 if you know how to play the game. If not, just pay 40 and be happy about I guess. As you say a lot of mileage possible right in the bar with some of them. Can even see guys getting a lot more than touching in there. Just watch out for the ladyboy.

GSM is dead. They were first renting those out for 1500 or something. Now they're down to 450 listed. Which means you could negotiate for even less, because nobody pays sticker price in Cambodia except foreigners who don't know any better. Place is over half empty. Doubt it will come back. Those days seem to be coming to a close. Make way for big spenders from China.[/QUOTE]They can't get the price if no-one pay. Do you understand!

[QUOTE=RollTide4523;2277404]Stayed at the Point Boutique Hotel on 130St. the fridge did not work (most negative thing about the hotel).[/QUOTE]I arrived Wed and am Staying at the Point Boutique. I stayed in one of the large room, (201 maybe,) in Oct. And had not issues. I'm in rear unit 203 this time. The mini fridge is kaput. Might be a moot point even if it was working: The power cuts off when you leave the room and take the key card with you. Still great: strong AC, real comfortable bed and I just love the rainfall shower. Strong water pressure too.

But enough about that, I didn't come here for the mini fridge. LOL Inside the Corner 136 bar is loud as ever. However, there were less ladies present than my Oct trip. Whole new line-up too. Weird that I wasn't hit upon on entering. Busty Chick caught my eye, bought her a couple of LD's but I wasn't feeling the Love and she seemed too professional.

I went to Intoxica next, as I had a good time there in Oct. It was hopping, lots of chicks. I fell in Lust as soon as I entered. Unfortunately, the hottie I wanted had a broken pussgy. LOL Not really an issue, as I've been banging my brains out in Pattaya. A night of rest does the body good.

I started late, First stop was Cyrcee Secret Bar: I was around 9 p when I got there. Very few ladies present when I arrived. But I was told the ladies were in the back and would be coming out soon. The first that came out were disappointing. The following girls were better and I bought those two LD's. It seems the MO here is to push for a threesome. It wasn't an immediate push for the threesome, but she was persistent. When she told me she didn't like DATY, it was Not Deal. (What woman doesn't luv DATY?) That and my old friend, who was not enjoying his time at.

Cyrcee, told me it was time to move on. The New Cyrcee has a lounge in the back. I didn't get to see it, Not sure if its a BJ area and if there is a cover to go back there. Asking the staff and ladies about it was Lost in Translation.

Second stop was Intoxica. They were having a birthday party and it was hopping like the previous night. My injured bird was not there. Grabbed Lisa, a busty, very curvy chick. The turn off with her: she was double dipping the LD's. But, she looked like she could be fun. We moved on after a couple of rounds.

One Zero Four was the next stop. Like Intoxica, it was jumping. My friend and I soon found ourselves surrounded by several ladies. 104 has some nice ladies. The first one that approached me was pushy for a LD, maybe because she was a little drunk. Nice body though. The next two were Very Friendly. I started making out with the both of them. Thought of a threesome began forming in my mind. LOL Mamasan joined my little group a bit later. The mamasan here is younger than you typical mamasan but she was also heavier. Big tits though. Not too long, all three were alternating in giving me a HJ. LOL.

Closing time was fast approaching and I BF'd the two fun girls. No Fukking way I was going to pass That Up! No issue bring two back to the Point. In the room these two literally attacked me. I was a passenger on this ride. No interaction between them, I was the focus of their attention. Lots of moaning from them. I got the impression they hadn't gotten laid in some time. Lots of fukking during the early morning hours. One had to leave at 7 a. The other one stayed til late afternoon and woke up horny. Wow! I'm going to keep these two on repeat.

Lastly, 104 bar tab, blew and sank my nightly budget. LOL.

Hello Guys. I would be in vietnam and Cambodia on a official trip later this year. Have heard a lot about the availability of virgin girls in Cambodia. Any tips on is this only for the local cambodian men or is it safe for tourists too?

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2287710]I started late, First stop was Cyrcee Secret Bar: I was around 9 p when I got there. Very few ladies present when I arrived. But I was told the ladies were in the back and would be coming out soon. The first that came out were disappointing. The following girls were better and I bought those two LD's. It seems the MO here is to push for a threesome. It wasn't an immediate push for the threesome, but she was persistent. When she told me she didn't like DATY, it was Not Deal. (What woman doesn't luv DATY?) That and my old friend, who was not enjoying his time at.

Cyrcee, told me it was time to move on. The New Cyrcee has a lounge in the back. I didn't get to see it, Not sure if its a BJ area and if there is a cover to go back there. Asking the staff and ladies about it was Lost in Translation.

Second stop was Intoxica. They were having a birthday party and it was hopping like the previous night. My injured bird was not there. Grabbed Lisa, a busty, very curvy chick. The turn off with her: she was double dipping the LD's. But, she looked like she could be fun. We moved on after a couple of rounds.

One Zero Four was the next stop. Like Intoxica, it was jumping. My friend and I soon found ourselves surrounded by several ladies. 104 has some nice ladies. The first one that approached me was pushy for a LD, maybe because she was a little drunk. Nice body though. The next two were Very Friendly. I started making out with the both of them. Thought of a threesome began forming in my mind. LOL Mamasan joined my little group a bit later. The mamasan here is younger than you typical mamasan but she was also heavier. Big tits though. Not too long, all three were alternating in giving me a HJ. LOL.

Closing time was fast approaching and I BF'd the two fun girls. No Fukking way I was going to pass That Up! No issue bring two back to the Point. In the room these two literally attacked me. I was a passenger on this ride. No interaction between them, I was the focus of their attention. Lots of moaning from them. I got the impression they hadn't gotten laid in some time. Lots of fukking during the early morning hours. One had to leave at 7 a. The other one stayed til late afternoon and woke up horny. Wow! I'm going to keep these two on repeat.

Lastly, 104 bar tab, blew and sank my nightly budget. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2287710]...Lastly, 104 bar tab, blew and sank my nightly budget. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but think how much fun you had. It was worth it, wasn'it? A nice report by the way. Thanks.

[QUOTE=PommyChris;2278705]Well you guys must be very unlucky! I have stayed here three times, always with a high floor room, at the back of the hotel.

I think its a great place to stay! And never spotted ants or any bugs! But I never leave out anything that may attract them.

Very girl friendly, great location, just could do with a pool! Well I will be there again next week-end. Looking forward.[/QUOTE]I agree. I have stayed here in the King Suite on the top floor. Top notch experience. I think I left a review too.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2278370]Sorry but any room with ants or cockroaches gets a 1/5 imo.[/QUOTE]I agree to this point BB, but in a tropical country it is hard to keep them out, especially from the balcony.

[QUOTE=Sandy1984;2287725]Hello Guys. I would be in vietnam and Cambodia on a official trip later this year. Have heard a lot about the availability of virgin girls in Cambodia. Any tips on is this only for the local cambodian men or is it safe for tourists too?[/QUOTE]Haha. Easy to get virgins for sex?

Asians pretend to be anything you want them to be cause they need money for their hungry family. Or maybe afraid of her mamasan.

And they are sooo happy to sex you without condom so you can pay for "your baby".

In a world where there is no yesterday, no tomorrow, even the biggest prostitute is virgin in her mind.

Today you are her biggest love.

Tomorrow you are forgotten.

No matter how jealous she was today.

No matter what you gave her today.

Ronald.

[QUOTE=Sandy1984;2287725]Hello Guys. I would be in vietnam and Cambodia on a official trip later this year. Have heard a lot about the availability of virgin girls in Cambodia. Any tips on is this only for the local cambodian men or is it safe for tourists too?[/QUOTE]Some bars in Angeles City, Philippines have cherry girls working. You'll pay thru the nose to bust their cherry though. IIRC, around $5 k USD. I don't get the appeal. Cambodia chick from the countryside? Odds are they'll know nothing about Sex. Forget about a BJ. LOL give me an experienced babe Any Day.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2287770]Yeah, but think how much fun you had. It was worth it, wasn'it? A nice report by the way. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes It was worth it.

I needed a recovery day after wrestling with the two 104 chicks, plus I got a lilttle under the weather the next night. Felt much bette last night. However, the universe needed balancing, So: Avi Bar on 136st. A hottie standing outside the bar lured me in. She wasn't wearing bra and had on Daisy Dukes. Her demeanor was a bit off, but that body. I bought her a LD, and played with her a bit. She seemed to loosen up. At one point she flashed me her perfect gravity defying 24 yr old tits. A peak into her daisy dukes revealed she was wearing the thinnest G-string. It was literally a String! Turns out she's Vietnamese. Memories of a Viet Hottie I met at Family Nobre, Macau raced through my head, (both.) I kept buy her LD's and she pounded them away. I was ready to LT her. But it came to a screeching halt, when she refused to go with me. I'm guessing she's a drink Slot, (replace the o with a you.) I downed my beer and paid my bin, without talk more to her. Looked like she was taken a back by that. Well, that set the mood for the rest of the night Because.

I caught up with my wingman, who was at a bar, (I've forgotten the name,) that was three bars down and across from Sensations bar. He was with 3 chicks. Introduced myself to the ladies and bought a beer. 2 were friendly, but one wasn't. Really spoiled the mood. Time to move on.

I returned to Intoxica. The curvy babe had messaged me earlier, however she was busy when I got there. But my injured babe was there. She too was busy, but she approached me anyhow. She wasn't playful this time, maybe because of the other guy. And She quickly turned on me too.

It was time to accept the Universes punishment for the Great threesome I had. I resigned myself to drink my sorrows away. LOL. Tonight is another night.

Hmmm. That what I thought too. Thanks for the info.

I will be in Phnom penh for about 5 days. Is $1000 (usd) enough budget to enjoy there? I work in a well paid but deserted oilfield close to Saudi UAE border. Want to make the best of my available time. I love asians.

[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2287975]Haha. Easy to get virgins for sex?

Asians pretend to be anything you want them to be cause they need money for their hungry family. Or maybe afraid of her mamasan.

And they are sooo happy to sex you without condom so you can pay for "your baby".

In a world where there is no yesterday, no tomorrow, even the biggest prostitute is virgin in her mind.

Today you are her biggest love.

Tomorrow you are forgotten.

No matter how jealous she was today.

No matter what you gave her today.

Ronald.[/QUOTE]

Most of the time they are not really virgins in Angeles. They are issued ID cards by a physician with a red marker on the card indicating they are virgins after a supposed physical examination of the hymen was made. It's a bit of a cottage industry there for this purpose.

But it's unlikely they are really virgins. These cards are easily purchased via bribes and there is no law governing their distribution. It is also possible to re-stitch the hymen and continue advertising as a virgin over and over again to reel in the suckers.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2288357]Some bars in Angeles City, Philippines have cherry girls working. You'll pay thru the nose to bust their cherry though. IIRC, around $5 k USD. I don't get the appeal. Cambodia chick from the countryside? Odds are they'll know nothing about Sex. Forget about a BJ. LOL give me an experienced babe Any Day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sandy1984;2288488]I will be in Phnom penh for about 5 days. Is $1000 (usd) enough budget to enjoy there?[/QUOTE]I don't know, depends on You. ST is $50, you may get it for less. LT is $60-70. The bar fine is $10-$12. Draft beers at the bars are $1. 50-$1. 75. A Lady Drink is $3. 50, as is a bottle of beer, I think. Could be $2. 50, depends on the brand. My Jameson on the rocks was $5. 50. If you're going to ring bells at every bar, nightly, that $1 K is not enough. Up to YOU as they say in SE Asia. LOL.

Correction to my report #7486: In case anyone wants to try their luck: The Hot Vietnamese Drink Slot was found at Splash bar on 130st. The second unfriendly was found at Avi bar, which is across from Sensations Bar on 130th st.

I ran into Drink Slots last night: at Tokyo and Alaska. They showed no luv. LOL Looks of chicks at these two bars though.

Found a very friendly petite gal at the sister bar of the Phnom Penh Hilton on 136st. However, she spoke minimal english. The turn off was the cigarette burn on her upper left thigh. I was thinking Self-inflicted! My spidy-sense was kicking, so I passed on her.

I returned to One Zero Four bar, only found one of my two. Bar fined her and enjoyed a passionate night with her.

I have always avoided SE Asia due to long flights and tough drug laws. Now I see Cambodia listed for pot tourism on some websites.

The law allows them to cook with it.

So all travel guides a side. What is the real deal?

Weed in Cambodia Suicide or Acceptable?

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2288758]I don't know, depends on You. ST is $50, you may get it for less. LT is $60-70. The bar fine is $10-$12. Draft beers at the bars are $1. 50-$1. 75. A Lady Drink is $3. 50, as is a bottle of beer, I think. Could be $2. 50, depends on the brand. My Jameson on the rocks was $5. 50. If you're going to ring bells at every bar, nightly, that $1 K is not enough. Up to YOU as they say in SE Asia. LOL.[/QUOTE]Actually, for bar girls short time is 20-30. Long time is 50.

You may be asked more than that. Depends on you and how much they think they can get from you.

Pears at the market are 10,000 Riel per kilo.

You may be asked more than that. Depends on you and how much they think they can get from you.

Short tuk tuk rides are $1.

You may be asked more than that. Depends on you and how much they think they can get from you.

Welcome to Southeast Asia.

Thanks for all the help Guys. Wow, I didn't know its that cheap there! I mongered in Dubai and Bahrain a lot and its a lot higher compared to SE Asia I believe. Anyways thanks again. I will post my experiences on this forum.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2288993]Actually, for bar girls short time is 20-30. Long time is 50.

You may be asked more than that. Depends on you and how much they think they can get from you.

Pears at the market are 10,000 Riel per kilo.

You may be asked more than that. Depends on you and how much they think they can get from you.

Short tuk tuk rides are $1.

You may be asked more than that. Depends on you and how much they think they can get from you.

Welcome to Southeast Asia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2288916]I have always avoided SE Asia due to long flights and tough drug laws. Now I see Cambodia listed for pot tourism on some websites. The law allows them to cook with it. So all travel guides a side. What is the real deal? Weed in Cambodia Suicide or Acceptable?[/QUOTE]There are a lot of potheads in PP. My first trip to PP in Oct, I just had to try the Happy Pizza and Milkshake. (When in Rome.) I had them put $2 worth in the Milkshake. It put me DOWN! Local dudes selling the stuff outside the pizza joints. (Pun Intended.) It's no Big deal there.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2288993]Actually, for bar girls short time is 20-30. Long time is 50.

You may be asked more than that. Depends on you and how much they think they can get from you.

Short tuk tuk rides are $1. Welcome to Southeast Asia.[/QUOTE]The Gringo tax is everywhere, Not just SE Asia. YMMV. If you use Grab to get a tuk tuk, a short ride is 75 cents.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2289306]There are a lot of potheads in PP. My first trip to PP in Oct, I just had to try the Happy Pizza and Milkshake. (When in Rome.) I had them put $2 worth in the Milkshake. It put me DOWN! Local dudes selling the stuff outside the pizza joints. (Pun Intended.) It's no Big deal there.[/QUOTE]Ok. Thanks.

Sorry to be stupid. Will arrive PP around Mar 22 and want to be sure I don't pay to much and mess it up for you guys.

I've RTFF and see.

ST is $50, you may get it for less. LT is $60-70 plus bar fine.

Assume this is in a bar or take out.

What is the going rate at a MP for 'extra service'?

Assume a better price in dollars vs Riels.

Thanks in advance.

P Chop.

[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2289451]Assume a better price in dollars vs Riels. Thanks in advance. P Chop.[/QUOTE]Grab will give you the price in Riel. Everything else is in dollars. Everyone talks in dollars. Change, less than one dollar, will be given in Riel notes. 1 K Riel = 25 cents USD. 200 Riel = 5 cents USD.

[QUOTE=PurplePorkchop;2289451]
Assume a better price in dollars vs Riels.
[/QUOTE]There is no difference in pricing between dollars and riels. The exchange rate is more or less fixed at around 4000 riels equals one US dollar, with a very tiny spread on the buy / sell. So there is no advantage to holding dollars versus riels.

There are moneychangers all over the place in Phnom Penh. I prefer to carry riels and will go and change a $100 usd note into riel notes which are low denomination and therefore make it easier to pay for hotels, restaurants, hookers, and fruit.

[QUOTE=Franga;2289598] So there is no advantage to holding dollars versus riels.[/QUOTE]There is at least one advantage of keeping mostly dollars: it takes less place in your pocket.

Blue Tongue Hotel which was remodeled a few years has changed its name twice since they completed the job.

Last year it was Highland Hotel.

Could not find that name for a new reservation this week.

Zhe Jian Hotel name kept popping up. Then I notice the address. Same as Blue Tongue / Highland.

Prices are basically the same as last year.

Please. Would somebody take over the old Walkabout Bar lease. There is never anybody eating in that place. All you would need is a bar and an okay cook. The girls would come back and the guys would follow. There is no place in that area that has an inside bar. The old Walkabout Bar had customers 7/24. It was the second floor hotel that sucked. That second floor is gone. Somebody should take a chance at that location. Also include a pool table for the girls.

Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2293088]Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.[/QUOTE]Dunno about OK Boutique.

I have stayed at Point Boutique and I would recommend it highly.

I got a King Suite room which is usually just one of its kind on a floor, I got the highest floor which was good. Affords a nice view of the river and skyline. Also keeps the noise and smells of Street 130 away. The room is spacious and well appointed. IT is a relatively new hotel, so the fixtures and fittings have that typical new feel to it. The bathroom is clean, has a standing shower with a localised water heater. The fridge in my room was not working well, but the staff fixed that quickly. Bed is comfortable. The balcony is really an apology though, be careful while entering or exiting the balcony, as the AC compressor unit is mounted in an awkward manner there.

Importantly, it is girl friendly. Staff won't blink an eyelid when you walk past them with a girl or two in tow. The location is very convenient, right on the street where all the action is. Convenience stores, restaurants, etc are all right outside the hotel. Can be easily found on maps.

Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?

[QUOTE=Sandy1984;2294776]Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?[/QUOTE]Hi a few brief comments re this 1. See heading. Prob very unlucky if this happens but see point 2, 3 etc.

If you go hunting for young girls (you know what I mean) increases likelihood.

Found that although young ones are good for ego slightly older in safe range 20 - 28 give better perf.

Some in 20 - 28 range look young so.

If it looks like a scam walk straight away. Anything that doesn't seem just right. Walk - there are plenty others. Use your radar.

I deal direct with girls. Pimps for me = trouble. (not always but "cut out the middle man".

ID's can be fake but check if worried then ask questions like so what year were you born? When did you turn 18? Etc etc. You are smarter than then. Any hesitation = walk. Classic one tell them you can tell how old they are by the length from the wrist to the elbow (BS) tell you have medical training. See how much they protest. You are smarter than them remember.

Be careful of " can my sister come too" or doing doubles.

Pick up from bars and established places not FL or pimps.

Don't drink / smoke too much. Keep your wits about you.

Main thing is always keep your radar up and monitoring- as said before if it looks not right = walk. Remember you always hear about the plane crashes not the hundreds that fly safely every day.

NI.

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2293088]Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.[/QUOTE]Okay boutique is good and GF. But when I stayed, there were lot of families and young couples staying at the hotel. Got HJ from couple of masseurs that work in house at Okay boutique.

[QUOTE=Sandy1984;2294776]Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?[/QUOTE]I heard some nasty stuff about touristy getting into trouble from my tuk tuk guy. WG had trapped them with drugs. I know the tuk tuk guys talk a lot of shit, but it sounded scary.

Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2293088]Can anyone give me good or bad about these too hotels. Leaning toward okay just cause of the pool but just like to see what you guys think that have maybe been to both. Thanks for you help heading there in April.[/QUOTE]

I have tried many girls in Phnom Penh:

1. St 130 Girls.

2. Disco Bar girls.

3. Darlin Darlin, Naga World Girls.

Generally.

1. St. 130 Girls USD 30-60. Plus Bar fine. Ok Ok types girls.

2. Disco Bar Girls. A bit better than St 130 girls. (Freelancers).

3. Darlin Darlin Girls. Best of all the Phnom Penh Girls I could Spot. - Price Starts USD 100. Some girls even demand USD 200.

I prefer to take the Darlin Darlin girls. They are Sexy but downside is their tantrums.

Sky Boy.

[QUOTE=Skyboy23;2299167]Okay Boutique is a sort of family hotel. They have good swimming pool on terrace. You can get in house Massage (even in your room) . And easily a HJ from massager.

Point Hotel. It on st. 130 where the all the night action happens. They have a bar on terrace. Easy to bring girl in the room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post good info. I'm staying at the point hotel next month.

I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?

[QUOTE=BillyJ;2300393]I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?[/QUOTE]By design a nightclub is a place where one socializes meets new people that might lead to other things. Freelancers working in nightclubs are there for one reason only. Money in exchange for sex. So having game or no game in nightclubs which are known for hosting working girls is irrelevant.

You say the music in DD is way too loud, while you find the music at Pontoon acceptable? Most folks would think the other way round. DD is classy, Pontoon is a dive. In all the times that I have been to DD not once as a girl asked me for money to sit with me or talk to me. And I am not Chinese or Korean. The MO is as simple as it gets. Grab a beer at the bar, scan the place for talent that appeals to you. Find one, talk to her and make the deal. $100ST is the norm, although some folks claim to pay lesser or higher. No judgment. Pontoon OTOH does not get going before 1 am. The place is full of cheap twatpackers trying to land a freebie. I can't see the fun in waiting up till 3 am to pick up a drunk chick.

Not sure if you have read the thread here, but there are several clubs that have been mentioned and reviewed by seasoned forum members.

P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.

Billy.

I can give you a very good hint.

But I will not post it here it is a smaller venue. PM me.

When you can.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2300493]P.S. - For folks who are absolutely gameless, there are massage shops like 252 Massa and LE Cyrcee, but you probably know about that already.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that he will not be comfortable in LE Cyrcee with many girls rounding you once you enter the place, and he will probably be scammed at 252 because he wouldn't take the step to talk about payment to the girl before going up in the room.

It seems to me that he doesn't want to pay also, but if he is willing to pay I would say the best thing to meet girls is not discos but bars on the riverside.

It's surely intimidating for a shy guy to go there alone when all the girls are already there, so the best thing in my opinion would be to go in any of the bars in the evening (around 5 or 6), pretend to be there just for the happy hour, and then when the girls will slowly arrive at work they will notice him and make the first move without intimidating him. And if he doesn't like the girls in that bar, just have a look at which girl looks good in other bars and go and sit in that bar the next days until he finds one that he likes.

Just wondering what is Thai friendly equivalent for Cambodia. I am visiting PP for a week. Have had a bit of success at thaifriendly for BKK and Pattaya but none for Cambodia.

Thanks.

Mate-I appreciate that you might be shy or lack confidence, but don't confuse this site with a dating site. As much as I and most other posters on the forum might think I have the charm, body and looks of Chris Hemsworth, it's the money in your pocket that these girls are interested in, so your lack of so-called "game" is irrelevant if you have the right amount of money to pay the right girl for whatever it is you are looking for.

Don't confuse dating with banging. Read the forum, take a deep breath, order a strong drink if that helps you and enter one of the 100 hostess bars and see if you can find yourself a good time, but expect to pay. Unless you are the ugly Hemsworth brother??

Have fun and be sure to post your outcomes.

DingoD.

[QUOTE=BillyJ;2300393]I am wondering if there is any recommendation as to a good nightclub type place for a shy guy with no game to go for a night out, have drinks, listen to music, meet a variety of women. Something like some of the clubs in Bangkok where lots of women will often come up to you and start talking to you, on their own initiative, so it is easy to mingle and meet people even if you have stage fright.

My review of a few places.

Darlin darlin. Gorgeous women. Music way too loud, difficult to talk and feels like a rock concert. Difficult to meet women as the place is crowded and they seem to segregate either near one of the entrances or along one of the bars, standing alone and chatting with their friends, rather than making themselves available and easy to talk to, partying, etc.

Would have to walk around conspicuously staring at people to try to find someone you like. The girls often ask for money just to sit down with you which tends to ruin the romance. It seems the MO of the wealthy Chinese and Koreans who go there is, reserve a table and somehow meet a few girls. Pay them money to sit with you and have them introduce you to their friends. Over the course of several days you get to know the place pretty well. Lots of guys walk in there and seem to know everyone already, including the staff, security, etc. Many women seem reluctant to sit down with a guy who is not Chinese / Korean due to being concerned that the guy may not be rich enough, non-Chinese / Korean seem to lack some initial credibility, which also makes it not an optimal place to just wander in on some particular evening, unless you have both cash and game, then could be OK.

Pontoon. Certainly has nice music and cool atmosphere, but doesn't seem to be a good way to mingle and meet a number of different women to find someone you like. It seems one way to meet people is to sit at the rounded rectangle-shaped big bar and have some drinks, look around and see if you can make eye contact. This would be OK for someone who has game and can walk up to them and start chatting, which I could work up the courage to do, but the problem is the probability that I will wind up liking a particular woman is kind of low based just on first sight and there are usually just 1-2 potential people to meet anyway. So even if I muster up the courage to talk to them, most of the time wouldn't work out anyway. I see also people sitting in the VIP chairs, sometimes just a few women together. Are these wealthy local women? It seems they sit there for long periods of time and only occasionally are approached by guys. Sometimes guys also sit in the VIP sofas alone for quite some time, I don't see women coming up to them to sit with them and meet. All the people on the dance floor, men and women dancing together, I have not seen how exactly it is that they are meeting each other.

Heart of Darkness, I like the atmosphere, decor, lighting, etc. Music again at a reasonable level. As people say there appear to be a lot of gay men there, but also plenty of women so its fine. I have not been to the second floor so I am not sure what it is like there. On the first floor, it is possible to get a seat and drink while listening to the music. There seem to be two main places: the dance floor, where individuals without game are not going to succeed in meeting women, and then the seats nearby the dance floor. One can sit at one of those tables near the dance floor / across from the bar, but again, women do not come up to guys sitting there (or is it just me?) There are also not a lot of women in that area, occasionally one or two may be sitting alone, but they do not make any effort to be approachable, much less talk to a guy on their own initiative. They seem to know what they are doing already, either maybe they are not looking to meet guys, or already are with someone, in any event not giving off a very approachable vibe.

Any advice on where might be a good place to go? I guess basically, are there places where the women will make efforts to meet guys and make things easy for guys who are shy / gameless?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2294819]Hi a few brief comments re this 1. See heading. Prob very unlucky if this happens but see point 2, 3 etc.

If you go hunting for young girls (you know what I mean) increases likelihood.

Found that although young ones are good for ego slightly older in safe range 20 - 28 give better perf.

Some in 20 - 28 range look young so.

If it looks like a scam walk straight away. Anything that doesn't seem just right. Walk - there are plenty others. Use your radar.

I deal direct with girls. Pimps for me = trouble. (not always but "cut out the middle man".

ID's can be fake but check if worried then ask questions like so what year were you born? When did you turn 18? Etc etc. You are smarter than then. Any hesitation = walk. Classic one tell them you can tell how old they are by the length from the wrist to the elbow (BS) tell you have medical training. See how much they protest. You are smarter than them remember.

Be careful of " can my sister come too" or doing doubles.

Pick up from bars and established places not FL or pimps.

Don't drink / smoke too much. Keep your wits about you.

Main thing is always keep your radar up and monitoring- as said before if it looks not right = walk. Remember you always hear about the plane crashes not the hundreds that fly safely every day.

NI.[/QUOTE]Just a little advice from somebody who has put in 60 days a year for ten years in the Philippines and then 120 days the last five years. If you think the girls is under 18. Don't go there. 90% chance she probably is. I can spot them and will just move on to other hundreds or thousands of girls. If you are not sure. Take a photo of the ID. It could be fake. So that is no guarantee. But it is better than no photo.

Not an expert on Cambodian ID. But the Philippines just pass a new law that make a national ID mandatory. Of course knowing the Philippines that will take three years to issue.

Under American law. Doesn't matter what the country allow on age. It is 18 minimum for United State citizen.

I stayed in the Sun and Moon Hotel on 136 Street, known by locals (who often didn't understand which hotel I was talking about) as "Sunmoon". The rooftop pool has a nice setting, but is a little short for laps (ca 16 m), but ok for light swimming. The hotel requires all guests to present original ID and register upon entry. If one has not booked the room for two people, there is a surcharge for the guest.

The hotel is right in the middle of the biggest action. Lots of girlie bars. Not really my kind of thing, because you have to walk a lot, there is a lot of bait and switch (prettiest girls outside to lure you in, but they won't go home with you) and difficult to get an overview of where the girls you really like are. But the sum of all the bars is a lot of girls, and there are some gems among them.

Prices are not low. USD 50 for girl, 10 for barfine, and often it would turn out the girl didn't have an ID (in spite of me asking her in advance), so 10-15 for a short-time hotel.

But a great grungy atmosphere walking around the streets.

On the last night I made it to Cyrcee. They only took 40 USD for the girl and 10 (USD for barfine. Great lineup, not a single other customer in there, some very cute and friendly girls. Three of them massaged me for 15 minutes trying to get me to choose them. The spinner I finally choose was one of my two best lays in Phnom Penh.

Hello.

Right now I am in Pattaya and planning to go to Cambodia for a week and back to Pattaya. I need the help regarding hotel to stay and enjoy with girlfriends. As I read the thread there are several places and streets for action in Phenom Penh. Which is the best place to stay like Pattaya beach road? Easy to get the girls and no hassle? I would really appreciate the response from seniors and Phenom Penh experienced one and all. Thanks.

[QUOTE=RjToons;2304408]Which is the best place to stay like Pattaya beach road? Easy to get the girls and no hassle? [/QUOTE]Stay at any of the hotels on the riverside.

1. Hotels on streets 130,136, 144,148, 110 etc.

2. Hotels facing the river between street 110 to 148.

Price range hovers between $20 a room night to $100 a room night. Use Agoda or Booking to check out the hotels for pics, room size, amenities, etc. Book online.

Top recommendations would be Lux Riverside, Point Boutique, Harmony, Ohana PP, Quay Boutique, Amanjaya Pancam, Sun Moon, Grand Mekong etc.

If you like gambling stay at Nagaworld, they have a pick up nightclub too.

Planned a trip to Cambodia from April 13 and just found out it going to be the Khmer new year from 14 to 16th. Anyone been there during that time of year? Any different in quality of bar girls? Are girlie bars open during that time of year? Any recommendation? Thanks!

To the point Info provided by Blanquiceleste.

RjToons, you donot have to look any where else.

Enjoy.

Skyboy23.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2304515]Stay at any of the hotels on the riverside.

1. Hotels on streets 130,136, 144,148, 110 etc.

2. Hotels facing the river between street 110 to 148.

Price range hovers between $20 a room night to $100 a room night. Use Agoda or Booking to check out the hotels for pics, room size, amenities, etc. Book online.

Top recommendations would be Lux Riverside, Point Boutique, Harmony, Ohana PP, Quay Boutique, Amanjaya Pancam, Sun Moon, Grand Mekong etc.

If you like gambling stay at Nagaworld, they have a pick up nightclub too.[/QUOTE]

Yes, very true Cucumber.

I too experienced this may a times. Initially I thought they may not have liked me but slowly I understood it's way of there doing business.

They give lot of excuses. Busy, No time, Menstruation period, USD 200 , have to go Home early blah blah. Then they would say take my friend - so clearly bait and switch strategy.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2303834]

there is a lot of bait and switch (prettiest girls outside to lure you in, but they won't go home with you) and difficult to get an overview of where the girls you really like are. But the sum of all the bars is a lot of girls, and there are some gems among them.


.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RjToons;2304408]Hello.

Right now I am in Pattaya and planning to go to Cambodia for a week and back to Pattaya. I need the help regarding hotel to stay and enjoy with girlfriends. As I read the thread there are several places and streets for action in Phenom Penh. Which is the best place to stay like Pattaya beach road? Easy to get the girls and no hassle? I would really appreciate the response from seniors and Phenom Penh experienced one and all. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I often recommend the Lux Riverside Hotel. It is at ground zero for sanuk (bars along Street 136 and only a block of so from many other bars). Couldn't be more convenient unless there was a bar in the lobby. Rates from about $45 and up. Several different options for a room. Can book using the hotel website or through the popular online booking agencies. I'm booked there for the 5th time next month--for 3 weeks.

The info provided by other board members is all correct.

After doing the BKK and Pats scene for over 40 years, PP has become my new playground for a lot of reasons. I hope you enjoy the difference--and it IS different. (Well, "same, same but different).

SS.

Does anyone has an idea how Phnom Penh bar scene will be during the Khmer new year? Anyone has been to Phnom Penh in that time period? Should I stay in Phnome Penh or go to Sinhanoukvill during that time for mongering? Do bars stay open?

Sam, I really appreciate your reply. Thank you.

RJ.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2304638]I often recommend the Lux Riverside Hotel. It is at ground zero for sanuk (bars along Street 136 and only a block of so from many other bars). Couldn't be more convenient unless there was a bar in the lobby. Rates from about $45 and up. Several different options for a room. Can book using the hotel website or through the popular online booking agencies. I'm booked there for the 5th time next month--for 3 weeks.

The info provided by other board members is all correct.

After doing the BKK and Pats scene for over 40 years, PP has become my new playground for a lot of reasons. I hope you enjoy the difference--and it IS different. (Well, "same, same but different).

SS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2304515]Stay at any of the hotels on the riverside.

1. Hotels on streets 130,136, 144,148, 110 etc.

2. Hotels facing the river between street 110 to 148.

Price range hovers between $20 a room night to $100 a room night. Use Agoda or Booking to check out the hotels for pics, room size, amenities, etc. Book online.

Top recommendations would be Lux Riverside, Point Boutique, Harmony, Ohana PP, Quay Boutique, Amanjaya Pancam, Sun Moon, Grand Mekong etc.

If you like gambling stay at Nagaworld, they have a pick up nightclub too.[/QUOTE]Hi be, would appreciate your thoughts.

Would like to stay at Lux but need a pool. Was looking at Sun & Moon but bit costly. Okay or Harmony? Thoughts please. Like quiet at night, walk to bars, good buffet bfast and POOL.

Appreciate any comments.

Unless you speak Mandarin and don't mind staying in a giant construction site you would be mad to go to Sihanoukville.

SE.

I have not been in PP long time, but probably go some days next month. Do any have experience with Secrets, st. 136?

[QUOTE=AskeAske;2306765]I have not been in PP long time, but probably go some days next month. Do any have experience with Secrets, st. 136?[/QUOTE]I can only provide a small bit of info I've read on another board. Drinks are among the highest among the RLD bars in PP. Not all females can be barfined. If wearing a red costume, they are supposedly available. If wearing white, probably not available for take out. You might want to check out this facebook page where Secrets and other bars advertise and you can read comments by punters. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1062695980532551/[/URL].

Coincidentally, I'll be staying on Street 136 (Lux Riverside Hotel) in May for 3 weeks. I hope I (and my wallet) survive. LOL.

SS.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2306513]Hi be, would appreciate your thoughts.

Would like to stay at Lux but need a pool. Was looking at Sun & Moon but bit costly. Okay or Harmony? Thoughts please. Like quiet at night, walk to bars, good buffet bfast and POOL.

Appreciate any comments.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the Okay hotel, but a friend has stayed at the Harmony. Relatively quiet and only a long block or 2 to Street 136. Same price range as the Lux. I have been in the room my friend had and it was nice. Not sure if the Harmony is guest friendly if that is a requirement. My friend had his "anchor" (wife) with him, so he can't say. I almost always email a hotel directly and inquire about any policies they have regarding guests. I ask a direct question and get direct answers.

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2306912]I don't know about the Okay hotel, but a friend has stayed at the Harmony. Relatively quiet and only a long block or 2 to Street 136. Same price range as the Lux. I have been in the room my friend had and it was nice. Not sure if the Harmony is guest friendly if that is a requirement. My friend had his "anchor" (wife) with him, so he can't say. I almost always email a hotel directly and inquire about any policies they have regarding guests. I ask a direct question and get direct answers.

SS.[/QUOTE]Harmony is shit. I stayed there one night and will never go there again.

Everything sucks in that place.

The guy at the front desk is an asshole, rooms are small, pool is small and full of people inside, breakfast sucks, the lift is always busy so you end up taking the stairs every time.

It's also way overpriced, but it's probably guest friendly as I saw some old barangs with some bar girls inside.

Okay is better but it's far from the river side, the pool is small also and breakfast was not the best but at least you've got a big room and the staff is professional.

I stayed the Hotel Ok in the winter of 2016 and liked it quite a bit. The lobby is a bit ostentatious, and kind of Chinese looking, but cool and different in its own way. I did not think the pool was all that small and really enjoyed the rooftop view from there. I think it's on the 12th floor. Agree that the breakfast was mediocre amd it's a good distance from the river but there were always tuk tuk guys outside the hotel. The rooms had nice nice wood paneling and no problem bring girls in and they take their ID as extra precaution. I initially had stayed my first night in PP in a two story level type hotel next door with a nice garden level pool until I noticed a sign over the front desk saying all guests had to be registered beforehand. I moved out the next morning to the OK.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2307092]Harmony is shit. I stayed there one night and will never go there again.

Everything sucks in that place.

The guy at the front desk is an asshole, rooms are small, pool is small and full of people inside, breakfast sucks, the lift is always busy so you end up taking the stairs every time.

It's also way overpriced, but it's probably guest friendly as I saw some old barangs with some bar girls inside.

Okay is better but it's far from the river side, the pool is small also and breakfast was not the best but at least you've got a big room and the staff is professional.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2306513]Hi be, would appreciate your thoughts.

Would like to stay at Lux but need a pool. Was looking at Sun & Moon but bit costly. Okay or Harmony? Thoughts please. Like quiet at night, walk to bars, good buffet bfast and POOL.

Appreciate any comments.[/QUOTE]I did a good bit of research trying to find a girl-friendly hotel near the action with a pool long enough to do proper laps (minimum 20 meters). In the end I gave up. The Raffles (reasonably central) may have a long enough pool (not clear), but is super expensive and not quite in the action. Across the river there is a one or more huge hotel complexes with big pools, but that is far away. In the end I gave up.

I recommend the Himawari. The rooms are super large. The pool is great! And I mean great! The location is on the river in between Darling Darling and the Hostess bars which is not bad. The rates this time of year run between $92 - $100 for a deluxe suite w / bfst and the hotel is girl friendly (most important as many Phnom Penh boutique hotels with pools are not gf).

If money is no object, you can spend a lot more for more luxury at the Sofitel (great pool & gf), but the Sofitel location is not as good as the Himawari IMHO.

P. S. On those visits when I chose to stay at another hotel which did not have a swimming pool, I frequently paid $8.00/day for guest pool privileges at the Himawari. A pool in Phnom Penh is almost a necessity. 555

Hello,

Been forever, but is Sharky's and Martini Club still flying? What about Heart of Darkness. Back in 2010 it was like 40,000 for a top caliber girl. What's the jam now?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=HummerBird;2307710]Hello,

Been forever, but is Sharky's and Martini Club still flying? What about Heart of Darkness. Back in 2010 it was like 40,000 for a top caliber girl. What's the jam now?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Sharkey is alive at same location on Street 130--different biz model now under newer barang ownership; Viet freelancers are gone. Customers are no longer mobbed when sitting down. Martini is gone--history; Heart is reportedly a primarily a gay venue now. Top caliber girls? Depends on when and where and whether short time or long time. Since 2010, pricing structure has changed. Influx of Asian punters has pushed up the price of poker. For instance, in Nagaworld, top caliber can cost $100 for short time or up to $200 for LT. Some of the same gals can be had later at Pontoon for maybe 1/2 that. In the hostess bars, you can get most gals for $30-$40ST; $50-$70 LT.

SS.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you are in for a rude surprise. Sharkey is a pale imitation of what it was. Martini, can't even recall if it is still going on 174 (but was shit a couple of years ago) and HoD is full of gays. As for 40,000 for a stunner? Knock off 3 zeros, make it US dollars and you may get a ST with a 7 or 8 unless you are a very hansome man. Good luck and report back.

SE.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2307632]I did a good bit of research trying to find a girl-friendly hotel near the action with a pool long enough to do proper laps (minimum 20 meters). In the end I gave up. The Raffles (reasonably central) may have a long enough pool (not clear), but is super expensive and not quite in the action. Across the river there is a one or more huge hotel complexes with big pools, but that is far away. In the end I gave up.[/QUOTE]I'm honestly not sure if it's 20 meters long, I thought it was large enough. But it's absolutely gorgeous, and I've been told by other punters it's the best pool in town. Take it for what it's worth. And the hotel is in the midst of everything, couple of blocks from the river.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2307728]S For instance, in Nagaworld, top caliber can cost $100 for short time or up to $200 for LT.

SS.[/QUOTE]I travel around a lot. Angeles city, Sosua, Pattaya. I never give a ten. Rare I see a nine (maybe in gogo bar Pattaya which I cannot afford). Some eights. More 5-7. I went to Naga world around nine and hung out to 10:15. Did not see any girl above a seven. Most were sevens and less. But if your rich hanging out in the casino. What $100 or more. Just a little effort will find better for cheaper. But its not my money.

Sun and Moon hotel. Agree definitely one of the top hotels in the RLD.

[QUOTE=MikeM488;2308130] I never give a ten. Rare I see a nine (maybe in gogo bar Pattaya which I cannot afford). Some eights. [/QUOTE]I'm more restrictive to just the main RLD and Cyrcee but I have only seen one single girl who I would rate over a 7 in all my trips to PP. I haven't been recently but from photos I see of other's conquests I don't believe the PP girls became miraculously prettier. I hope I am wrong as I may be heading to PP as early as a couple more days as I am already sick of bloody Songkran in Pattaya.

Thanks Mike for pointing out the real issue with guys rating girls in Pattaya Lots of arguments on the Pattaya forum about no girls over a 7 but when you dig deeper the main reason is those guys who claim this do not barfine girls from the top gogo bars. I agree it's rare to find any girl above a 7 on Soi 6, Beach Road, beer bars, G clubs, etc.

I'm staying at the point next week and know it does not have a pool but for price and the room I got I booked it and no second thoughts. Has anyone found hotel you can go to during the day your not staying at and can drink and eat and its OK if you spend certain amount use the [URL]pool.com[/URL]. I know in ac and subic they have some like wild orchard lets you. Thanks for any info.

In Feb I spent a few nights in PP. Went to the new Cyree which looks exactly like the old one inside. When I entered about 9 PM I was the only customer. I remembered how several of them immediately circled me a couple years ago so this time I quickly waved them back to their seats so I could enjoy a beer and make my selection. Yeah almost all were all 7's and below but at the far right was one that looked much hotter for my taste which is young and thin. It wasn't easy but finally I caught her eye and waved her over. She looked shocked and came over with a huge smile from ear to ear. Her english was only very basic. But she was able explain she had never worked before this night. After a few minutes I asked her about barfine and "for lady" and she didn't know. I waved over mama behind the bar and she said the barfine was $10 (I think) and she told me this girl had never worked before. She said $40 would be fair so that's what we agreed on. The girl could not stop smiling she was so happy or proud to have been selected out of all the girls working. It felt so good to see how happy this girl was to go with me. After a while she waved over her cousin that told her she should come work here. The cousin spoke good english so helped with our conversation. As you might have guessed we had an awesome session to remember. It was like she wanted sex more than me. While sometimes this game gets old experiences like this great night keep me in the hobby.

Spent a few days in PP, I haven't visited for over 10 yrs.

Generally, the girls in the bars on St 104 down to St 130 were 6's or 7's, with the occasional 7. 5. All the 7. 5's and many of the 7's did not go out with customers. I'm told that most of the 7. 5's - 9's are in Sihanoukville or Naga casino where they are asking $100 for ST. In terms of prices and quality of girls, I would say the air-conditioned bars here are comparable to the beer bars in Bangkok / Pattaya.

Air Force bar St 104 Took a skinny and cute one for $40ST, barfine was $10. Maybe 3-4 pretty ones in this bar, but forgot to ask if the others will go with customers.

Heart Break (bar first cross street (parallel to Sisowath Quay) between St 110 and St 118. Has 3 cuties but none will go out with customers. Ask first, they will tell you which ones will go with customers.

LE Cyrcee bar St 130 all the girls here will go with customers, the downside is that most are 6's with maybe only two 7's. Took a pretty one for $70 LT, barfine was $10. Very skilled, great BJ. She left after 4 hrs and 2 rounds.

Black Pearl bar St 172 found a cute Vietnamese girl here, a solid 7+ with great boobs and speaks decent English. Agreed on LT for $80, barfine was $10.

OneZeroFour bar St 104 seems to be many Korean or Japanese customers here. 3-4 pretty ones but unfortunately a chubby one latched on to me and I had to make a run for it. : the Not sure if the pretty ones go with customers.

Food.

Many similarities to Vietnamese food (sour soups with fish and vegetables, grilled beef / pork) and Thai food (the curries are much less fiery and the amok is similar to Thai hor mok). The desserts also look similar to Thai desserts but I wanted to avoid ice and didn't try any.

-Romdeng (St 174) has high end Khmer food. It's not air-conditioned like most Phnom Penh restaurants, but it was very cool in the garden. Food was OK, I only went there for the tarantula.

-Food court at Sorya Centre Point is a good place to eat Khmer food in an air-conditioned environment.

-I also ate at various local restaurants between St 130 and St 172. The grilled beef is very good, not sure if this is Khmer or Vietnamese. The noodles were disappointing, not as good as Vietnamese or Thai noodles.

-Sara Ethiopian restaurant (St 172, near corner of St 13) was surprisingly good.

Transport.

I used PassApp for tuktuks and Grab for cars. A Grab car from Riverside area to the airport was about $7. I was quoted $12 for a taxi from airport to Riverside.

SIM card.

The Smart shop at Sorya Centre Point got me a good deal, $2 for SIM card and 10 GB data, good for 7 days. Better than the packages they had at the airport which cost $6 and up.

[QUOTE=Sandy1984;2294776]Hi guys, I would be travelling to phnom penh on Apr 18. Did some research on the net and saw lot of stories about tourist getting into traps where the pimp offers WG and once the customer takes her in a bunch of guys show up to blackmail you claiming the WG is below 18. How common is this and how to be cautious?[/QUOTE]To Sandy1984.

Just be careful ask the girl how old she is and ask to see a ID and returning to hotel ask the security to hold the girl ID and allow anyone enter your room and call the security if you think it is a scam you will be scam newbie.

Fast Eddie 48.

Sandy1984, further to Fast Eddie's reply if you are concerned about scams you're likely much safer taking a girl from one of the many bars in the RLD. Chances of a scam not as likely if there is a bar involved. Keep in mind working in a bar in PP does not necessarily mean she is of legal age. If she looks close to legal age check her ID or better yet let your hotel check her ID.

Thanks for your review Jktnoobie.

[QUOTE=Jktnoobie;2308947]I'm told that most of the 7. 5's - 9's are in Sihanoukville or Naga casino where they are asking $100 for ST. [/QUOTE]

Yes, the girls in Darling Darling at Naga World are generally better than the ones in the RLD bars. Interesting about Sihanoukville. Can anyone confirm nice girls are actually leaving PP to work there?

[QUOTE=Jktnoobie;2308947]Heart Break (bar first cross street (parallel to Sisowath Quay) between St 110 and St 118. Has 3 cuties but none will go out with customers. Ask first, they will tell you which ones will go with customers.[/QUOTE]Is this a new very bad trend happening in PP? I know there are some bars that may have a couple of girls who are 'original' but I haven't come across a bar where the entire lineup does not barfine. I can see why a bar would prefer girls not to barfine but girls make so little on drinks that they don't make jack unless they barfine.

[QUOTE=Jktnoobie;2308947]
I used PassApp for tuktuks and Grab for cars. A Grab car from Riverside area to the airport was about $7. I was quoted $12 for a taxi from airport to Riverside.
[/QUOTE]Are Grab cars allowed to pick up passengers at PP airport?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2310197]Thanks for your review Jktnoobie.[/QUOTE]To Banana boi.

I think taxi need to paid a fee to pick up inside the airport that is why they charge so much more, if you go outside the gate and get a taxi is much ness I was offer by a motobike last yr 2 usd to central market if you have only a small pack is OK but I have one large luggage.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2310197]Is this a new very bad trend happening in PP? I know there are some bars that may have a couple of girls who are 'original' but I haven't come across a bar where the entire lineup does not barfine. I can see why a bar would prefer girls not to barfine but girls make so little on drinks that they don't make jack unless they barfine.[/QUOTE]I think he meant the 3 cuties would not go out with customers. He follows up by saying you can ask them which ones will go. I think.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2310197]Are Grab cars allowed to pick up passengers at PP airport?[/QUOTE]Yes, no problem at all. $7 to riverside hotels on Grab or PassApp. I have used both.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2310197]Are Grab cars allowed to pick up passengers at PP airport?[/QUOTE]When you call a Grab, the App will say meet at the preferred location which is just outside the main gate. The distance from the airport door to the main gate is very short. But it is still a pain to walk outside.

I'm not sure if the Grab car is allowed inside the airport parking lot, or if it is just more convenient for him to meet his customer outside the main gate. If you want, I guess you can call him to meet you at the airport drop off / pick up curb.

Where is the best place get massage in this area 130 136 street thanks.

Visiting PP between 27 Apr and 05 May.

A while ago Sam Sanuk had reported on a place named New Night World, a local music / karaoke bar scene. Does anyone know the exact coordinates to this place!?

And are there other local bars / clubs / karaoke joints off the beaten path? Looking to explore a bit beyond the obvious. All suggestions welcome.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2312294]Visiting PP between 27 Apr and 05 May.

And are there other local bars / clubs / karaoke joints off the beaten path? Looking to explore a bit beyond the obvious. All suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]While not exactly off the beaten path, I saw 4-5 (Vietnamese-style?) KTVs on St 118, near the junction with St 13 or St 15. No names, just a large number (the address) on the front followed by the word KTV. I only say Vietnamese because the outside reminded me of the naughty KTVs in HCMC.

Please note I have not been inside, it was only a short trip and me mates preferred to spend time in the tried and tested bars.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2310898]I think he meant the 3 cuties would not go out with customers. He follows up by saying you can ask them which ones will go. I think.[/QUOTE]That's right, there're maybe 6-7 girls in the bar and only the 3 cute ones do not go with customers. There others were maybe 5's or 6's so I passed.

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2311946]Where is the best place get massage in this area 130 136 street thanks.[/QUOTE]Yesterday, I went to Monsoon Massage on st. 130. Had two MILFs working and smiling. Started the oil massage, was rubbing my legs and brushing up on the balls. Typical upsell, but crazy prices. I was laughing. They would not budge. Quoted FS $100 and BJ $50, must be at your hotel. She was telling me she would totally hang out with me all night.

I told her I would rather get a young hot chick at a bar on 136 for LT $70+10. She would not budge from her prices as she was giving me a $15 HJ which was excellent!! She wanted $5 more for rubbing her ass and pus.

Overall: $12 oil massage for a full hour and $20 for a great HJ and playing with her ass.

[QUOTE=Jktnoobie;2312376]While not exactly off the beaten path, I saw 4-5 (Vietnamese-style?) KTVs on St 118, near the junction with St 13 or St 15. No names, just a large number (the address) on the front followed by the word KTV. I only say Vietnamese because the outside reminded me of the naughty KTVs in HCMC.

Please note I have not been inside, it was only a short trip and me mates preferred to spend time in the tried and tested bars.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will give them a spin and report back.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2310898]I think he meant the 3 cuties would not go out with customers. He follows up by saying you can ask them which ones will go. I think.[/QUOTE]That's right, there're maybe 6-7 girls in the bar and only the 3 cute ones do not go with customers. There others were maybe 5's or 6's so I passed.

I was at point last week and checking in late night around 11 pm this room I booked 3 months in advance and payment then at booking so I thought everything should be real smooth. First the guy at front desk at night late is just a moron. Every night I came in 3 or 4 am he is dead sleep and never knew anyone had came in that's every night. But when I checked in went to room totally wrong room I had paid for the king suite they nicest room they had with king bed which I had emailed them and confirmed and all was good too go. After saw the room came back down told him this is not the right room he gave me keys to another room this was room with king bed but still not the king suite. I said its late I'm going take it and go out bars deal with this in the morning someone else that can help me better. I wake up and its 8 am and hot as crap in the room I dint notice it when I went out figure took awhile to cool down the A/C not working at all in room 903. Went downstairs told the lady working, she said yea I'm sorry we already called about it we know its not working. I'm like wtf why would you put me in that room then if A/C not working she said guy at night should have known about it but then again hes moroon. So move again around 1 first day and my king suite room 701 was good went to the frig and it don't work at all. Its over 100 everyday and when I paid said had frig so I go back downstairs and ask about that she said all the frigs int he hotel don't work we have none that work but they are still in the rooms and all? Sorry but when you come in and at night want something cold to drink its nice having a frig. Other than all that my room was good. Place just need some better help at front desk and spend some money just on frig in every room at least if you advertise you are getting one.

[QUOTE=LoveVegas;2314355] Its over 100 everyday and when I paid said had frig so I go back downstairs and ask about that she said all the frigs int he hotel don't work we have none that work but they are still in the rooms and all? Sorry but when you come in and at night want something cold to drink its nice having a frig. Other than all that my room was good. Place just need some better help at front desk and spend some money just on frig in every room at least if you advertise you are getting one.[/QUOTE]How can they have all the frig in every room being out of service at the same time? It's impossible.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2314523]How can they have all the frig in every room being out of service at the same time? It's impossible.[/QUOTE]Its so true I talked to 3 people at front desk and all told me that. I was in three rooms all them didn't work at all. Also saw the owner or general manager that owns point and the lavona I think is the name of it. He asked me how things going just told him the short version of my first day but told him that I was upset that my room has frig and it don't work. He said yea the y'all dint work and trying to get new ones or something, this might seem small point but its over 100 every day and you come to room you have nothing. Or wake up with your gal and have nothing cold freaking sucks. No idea what's the hold up or why you still have them even in the rooms and don't work. But yes every one tell me how I could be in 3 rooms and all them don't work even that is hard to believe.

This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer – My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.

Top Ten Highlights.

1. The market is distinctly dominated by groups of young to middle-aged Chinese men, flush with money to blow. And the market is responding.

2. This dominance is slowly but surely spreading into the mongering world too. In my last visit here in Aug 2018, this was not so prominent (except in Nagaworld), but this time almost every single bar, disco, club, or lounge had a significant Chinese population who were indulging the top girls and having a ball, throwing around money like it were going out of style.

3. The older (read above 60) Western monger has been relegated to a distant third spot, having to only satisfy his urges with the ugliest available women. Purely my observation. Disagreements are welcome. It's one man's view of the world.

4. That leaves the shallow middle to every one else. This means younger Western dudes, well dressed, well groomed, well behaved Indians, Malaysians, Arabs, etc.

5. A disturbing fact I encountered with several girls in my conversations (in specific places only)– a three-tiered pricing structure seems to have emerged. The standard ST of 1 hour, negotiable to 2 hours with 1 pop. The LT which we all expect to be a long and leisurely session usually lasting overnight with 2 to 3 pops is now being interpreted by the girls as 4-5 hours, with no more than 2 pops. Which means, girl comes in at 12 midnight, wants to leave by 4 am or 5 am. And this gives passage to the third price point – presenting the "Overnight", for which the girls ask for even more money. And we think the girls are dumb! Of course, some of them do come back to earth once they know you are not a pushover, but there are the divas and golden pussies who don't budge. So while the basic service and price has not moved much at the lower end, the higher segment's services have been redefined and a repackaged service at even higher price segment has been introduced. Marketing genius.

6. The food in PP continues to enthrall me and I am an absolute sucker for Asian food. Although on this trip I did not get to sample too many new places. Just 3 new places. At other times I stuck to some tried and tested places.

7. There is nothing to do in PP till the bars start opening up and girls start coming in by 7 pm. This is purely from a hobbyist's perspective. If you like those rub and tug massage shops, or places like LE Cyrcee then more power to you. Not my gig. Pickings online are very very slim. Recommendation would be to build up a small reliable list of girls who can come in the afternoons to help beat the monotony. Or you manage to keep the overnight picking long enough (won't happen).

8. Expect at least 40% to 50% of the girls in bars to say NO to barfine. This is a growing trend, one that is dangerous and has the potential to completely disrupt this market for us. The reason for this is often repeatedly discussed here ad nauseum. Hence, my recommendation would be to ask the girl that captures your fancy right up front, about her willingness to go out with you. Else, you will be poorer by $10 to $12 on each encounter, with nothing to show for it. You might think it's a kinda dick move to ask the girl up front without building chemistry, as PP is not Pattaya or Angeles where girls are more realistic about their line of work, they need to be made comfortable, yadda yadda. Your choice.

9. Pontoon has has a new owner and with that comes new rules. More on this later.

10. Petty crime rate is probably up. More than 70% of the girls I spoke to said they had either themselves been a victim of phone or chain snatching or they knew a very close friend or relative who was a victim. So if you are on ground stay sharp, never take your phone out on the road, do not dress flashily (some folks need a serious upgrade though), never carry more cash than you need and never trust anyone you speak to for the first time.

Over an eight day period I managed to meet several girls from different sources – bars, clubs, online, etc. I won't go into details of which girl came from where and what we did and how much I paid her. All that is YMMV frankly. But I will write about my observations of each place I visited and of course my opinions and recommendations. I base my opinions on a few criteria in the order priority for me.

1. Quantity of girls.

2. Quality of girls.

3. Aircon and general cleanliness.

4. Staff friendliness.

5. Pushiness for drinks.

6. Pricing.

7. Added attractions like a pool table or live band.

Based on these, I think Darling Darling wins hands fucking down by a mile. Except for the prices, they have it all and more. Frankly, its like comparing a Ferrari with with a Proton Saga and there is nothing quite like it in Phnom Penh. But there is an emerging contender IMHO, and has potential. More on that later.

So let us move to the bars, which are accountable for 80% of the working girls in Phnom Penh. I am breaking it down into best bars, middle ground and worst bars to keep it simple.

The best bars.

I think in terms of both quantity and quality among conventional bars the top prize goes to Tokyo Bar and Alaska Bar, both sitting side by side on St 136. The ladyboy mamasan in Alaska can be terribly annoying and you just have to deal with that, no way around it. Even if you buy him / her a drink he / she will continue to behave annoyingly. The girls at Tokyo Bar look exceptionally young, if you know what I mean. Be careful, use your common sense and rely on evidence alone. Lady drinks are $3. 5. A draft costs $1. The pool table at Alaska is bad. Aircon is just OK in both places, maybe because they are not fit to handle the crowd that comes in each night. Every night they were packed wall to wall with girls and customers. Hard to get a place to sit sometimes.

Not quite in the same league but I would include bars like Xanadu, Angry Bird, Intoxica, OneThreeSix, Corner 136 Bar, and Route 136. Although, Corner 136 Bar is a total rip off and quality is far more worse than average in Route 136. OneThreeSix bar has a live band playing 3 days a week, girls are quite nice and friendly. There is a stunner there who continues to elude me for over a year now, says she does not barfine and this statement has been corroborated by other girls at that bar. Intoxica has been in the press for all the wrong reasons in the past, this time they were OK, girls are a bit pushier than other bars here.

The wide and shallow middle bars.

This is where 80% of all bars will fall, instinctively. Firstly none of them have more than 8 to 12 girls at any point in time. Not more than 2 to 3 of them will be worth buying a drink for. Probably 1 or 2 of these will agree to a barfine. Almost all of them have similar infrastructure in terms of seating, aircon, cleanliness, staff behaviour and so on. But we aren't ranking bars, we are grouping them. I must have gone inside 80% of the bars on Streets 136,130, 118,110 and 104. You do the math. A few that I remember (for obvious reasons) are Dream, Jacky, Helicopter, 69 Bar, Tiger, Crazy Dog, Yellow, Top Ten, Na Na, Rodeo, Utopia and Honeypot. They were probably the better ones among this lot, for varying reasons.

The worst bars.

Now these deserve to be grouped among the worse simply because they perform very poorly on each of the above criteria and you would wonder how they are still in business. I know this might offend some folks, but here goes.

1. Airforce – This bar should be shut quickly. Situated on St 104, this place smells like a dungeon. The women inside look like prisoners. Staff need some lessons in how to smile even when they don't want to. Prices on par with other bars.

2. OneZeroFour – This used to be a great bar back in 2017 when I was there, but now this place is a shithole. Its on St 104. The fat mamasan will get herself a drink even when you tell her no drink. Bill can be padded. You can stay and argue, I consider my time more precious. One of the days I went there, and 3 girls followed me inside. Couple of them were OK. I asked them "Do you barfine? They did not even reply, just turned and walked back out.

3. Rose Bar – I never thought I would ever say this, as Rose was my top bar last year in PP. Sadly they have just fallen off a cliff. One day while at St 104 I peeked inside, there were 5 girls (if you can call them that), 1 customer (the poor sod), no music, no aircon. Why will anyone want to look any further?

4. I Get You Bar – St 136. Uggghhhh! What did I just see? One of the ugliest collection of girls. End of story.

5. Frog Skin Bar – St 5. Just 1 doable girl, who does not barfine. Why stay in business?

6. Bird in Hand – St 5. A name like that generates hope. But that is as far as they get. And the music is WAY too loud.

7. All the bars at Golden Soraya Mall in the new Pub Street complex. What an abomination.

Moving on to KTV's. I simply wanted to explore what might be available but quickly realized that I wasn't about to get any poon in these places without dropping a decent dollar. Plus some of the larger places are good only if you are in a group, willing to blow money, out to have a good time and have a local guide of sorts who can speak the language. Else you won't know what hit you.

Next up, clubs and discos. Apparently ownership of Pontoon has changed hands and the new Chinese-Cambodian owner is out on a mission to gentrify the place. So, grandpas and grannies out. Guys in shorts and flip flops out. Provocatively dressed working girls out. I wonder who is left, who might go to Pontoon. By the way all this information is coming from an assortment of the girls I met during my stay. All of them together would not lie.

I could not find time to go to Epic, Paradise, Club Love, etc. In any case, picking up a drunk chick from a club and 4 am is not my gig.

And finally, the rising star, the worthy competitor to Darling Darling I mentioned about earlier. Secrets on St 136. Very classy club by PP standards, spacious, clean, great aircon, excellent toilets, superb sound and visuals, live band (a bit off key but that is pardoned). A bit pricey, a draft is $3 while a JD+Coke is $5. Hendricks is $7. A Guinness is $5. Now onto the scene of real interest. I sat for a while sipping on my beer to take in the surroundings and understand how things work here. The club or super-bar (as one waitress referred to it) has been open for around 8 months now. There are 2 categories of girls who are on the club payroll. One are the waitresses in smart black skirts and crisp white shirts. These girls are strictly waitresses and they do not go out with customers. Then there are several girls in a black and red figure hugging sleeveless dress hanging about. You can buy them staff drinks at $4. 5 apiece. If things click between you two and you want to take her out, you have a buy a special staff drink for $20. Aka barfine. What you pay the girl is between her and you. Some very hot girls in there, a few would actually give some DD girls a run for their money. And finally, I am told, freelancers come into the club later as it stays open till 5 am. Naturally, for these FL there is no lady drink rule or barfine rule. I did not hang around to find out if the FL information was true. I did buy a hot girl a couple of drinks to glean all this information and also verified this with the bartender with a well-timed tip. This was a reconnaissance trip to Secrets for me, as I see a lot of promotion on FB for this club, but I have not seen any reports. I like what I see and I will be back here next time.

So that is all folks. Enjoy reading!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2317484]This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.So that is all folks. Enjoy reading![/QUOTE]Great field report!

I'm currently in PP at the Lux. Been here for 3 nights. About my 10th time to PP. For various reasons, only pulled one night. Cute 20 year old (near virgin) from Pussy Cat bar on 136. A range of ones in their 20's and up. Newbies to hardcore. No padding of bill in my visits. A few worth shagging. Didn't negotiate price. Took her at 1 am and released at 9 am. Put $60 next to her purse and she smiled and said thank you. That was the extent of her English. LOL Another gal said it was only my partner's 12th day on the job, so you get the picture. LOL.

There is a facebook page called Phnom Penh Hostess and Girly Bars some might want to check out.

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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2317484]
Top Ten Highlights.

1. The market is distinctly dominated by groups of young to middle-aged Chinese men, flush with money to blow. And the market is responding.

2. This dominance is slowly but surely spreading into the mongering world too. In my last visit here in Aug 2018, this was not so prominent (except in Nagaworld), but this time almost every single bar, disco, club, or lounge had a significant Chinese population who were indulging the top girls and having a ball, throwing around money like it were going out of style.
[/QUOTE]Phnom Penh sounds rubbish now compared to when I was last there a decade ago where there were plenty of brothels and hassle free freelancer venues. Who wants to waste time 'chatting up' some harlot in a bar? Surely there must be a few no nonsense brothels left with nice young girls.

[QUOTE=*****man;2325543]Phnom Penh sounds rubbish now compared to when I was last there a decade ago where there were plenty of brothels and hassle free freelancer venues. Who wants to waste time 'chatting up' some harlot in a bar?[/QUOTE]Just returned from 3 shitty weeks in Phnom Penh. For sure, mongering for bargain prices has ended. Even average drink sluts in the hostess bars are quoting $100 (USD) for long time and many $50 for short time. Stupid money. Of course you can negotiate, but in over 40 years engaged in this hobby, that isn't my style. This is not just my experience, but that of many other trusted sources and reports. Even beer prices are way over-priced. Prices have increased at least 50% since I last visited PP 20 months ago! I just don't get it.

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2326295]Just returned from 3 shitty weeks in Phnom Penh. For sure, mongering for bargain prices has ended. Even average drink sluts in the hostess bars are quoting $100 (USD) for long time and many $50 for short time. Stupid money. Of course you can negotiate, but in over 40 years engaged in this hobby, that isn't my style. This is not just my experience, but that of many other trusted sources and reports. Even beer prices are way over-priced. Prices have increased at least 50% since I last visited PP 20 months ago! I just don't get it.

SS.[/QUOTE]Hey Sam. I am really keen to know which bars you visited. I was on ground probably 4 weeks ago, and not one girl asked me anything more than $70 for LT. As for ST, I believe $50 is a fair rate so I did not bother to bargain. And in most places local draft beer is still $0. 75. If that is considered expensive, I am wondering what should be called economical. And if I remember right, 20 months ago was not that different. Hell, even the girls were the same in many bars. I have written reports in Sep 2017, Oct 2017, Apr 2018. They were not so different in pricing. I am wondering is I am missing anything.

The only place I got quoted $100 for LT is Secrets. But I thought the girls there looked better than the ones in the surrounding bars. With a bit of haggle they might have accepted $70-$80. I did not pick from there though.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2317484]This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.

Top Ten Highlights.^
GREAT REVIEW.
NOTHING BUT GREAT INFO

1. The market is distinctly dominated by groups of young to middle-aged Chinese men, flush with money to blow. And the market is responding.

2. This dominance is slowly but surely spreading into the mongering world too. In my last visit here in Aug 2018, this was not so prominent (except in Nagaworld), but this time almost every single bar, disco, club, or lounge had a significant Chinese population who were indulging the top girls and having a ball, throwing around money like it were going out of style.[/QUOTE]Great review!

Great read and great info.

Last time I was there was '96.

Things have changed.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2327494]Hey Sam. I am really keen to know which bars you visited. I was on ground probably 4 weeks ago, and not one girl asked me anything more than $70 for LT. As for ST, I believe $50 is a fair rate so I did not bother to bargain. And in most places local draft beer is still $0. 75. If that is considered expensive, I am wondering what should be called economical. And if I remember right, 20 months ago was not that different. Hell, even the girls were the same in many bars. I have written reports in Sep 2017, Oct 2017, Apr 2018. They were not so different in pricing. I am wondering is I am missing anything.

The only place I got quoted $100 for LT is Secrets. But I thought the girls there looked better than the ones in the surrounding bars. With a bit of haggle they might have accepted $70-$80. I did not pick from there though.[/QUOTE]I don't think you are missing anything.

Unfortunately, I only visited about a half dozen bars and only on Street 136. Advanced arthritis severely limited my travels on foot. If anybody saw an old fart hobbling around with a cane, it was probably me. LOL Should've had a cortisone injection before my trip. Also, a case of the shits kept me sidelined for a few days. The bars I patronized were the Pussy Cat, 69 Bar, Candy Bar, Moonrise, Sweetie and one or two others. Didn't try Secrets. I was aware of the pricing there. If you are missing anything, it is maybe the recollection of what the pricing has been historically in PP. Sure, the price of pussy has gone up everywhere. But it just seems like the prices in PP have escalated disproportionally in PP compared to other venues. I only barfined once. Cute 19 year old, 2 weeks on the scene. She was quite thankful for the $60 I put next to her purse in the morning. I, personally, did not get quoted $100. But my wingman was quoted that at 3 different bars. Yeah, the girls who quoted that were one of the top 2 (in my opinion) in each of the bars. You are right about $. 75 beers. Can't be beat except at a convenience store. LOL Fortunately, a former Soi Cowboy dancer I've known for 3 decades flew over to visit for a few days. And my married Khmer "girlfriend" of 22 years stopped by when she could. I'll be 78 in a couple of weeks, so I have about 50 years of fucking my way around SEA. Old school. With indelible memories of when "sanuk" was really "sanuk" and not like buying / renting a used car. I don't need a Ferrari to get me from Point A to Point be. LOL.

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2327774]If you are missing anything, it is maybe the recollection of what the pricing has been historically in PP.

I'll be 78 in a couple of weeks, so I have about 50 years of fucking my way around SEA. Old school. With indelible memories of when "sanuk" was really "sanuk" and not like buying / renting a used car. I don't need a Ferrari to get me from Point A to Point be. LOL.[/QUOTE]I am relatively an infant to the PP scene, so my experiences are not clouded by history. For me, PP is currently the cheapest place to monger conventionally in SEA.

#RESPECT for the Golden Jubilee of your career. Keep it going.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2327946]I am relatively an infant to the PP scene, so my experiences are not clouded by history. For me, PP is currently the cheapest place to monger conventionally in SEA.

#RESPECT for the Golden Jubilee of your career. Keep it going.[/QUOTE]I'm older, but not yet senile. I can still recall my "infant years" of mongering and cherish them. And you and others here will also. Rarely, does anything stay the same. When I compare the current P4P scene with that of yesteryear, I don't complain. I accept it for what it is. In many ways the scene is much better: nicer venues, more options, the convenience of electronic communication, and the ease of getting a blow job. LOL.

In the 70's, getting a go go dancer in BKK who would give head could be a very real challenge. (True). Even in PP a decade or so ago, mongers used to complain about the Khmer girls not giving head—thus one of the reasons the Viet freelancers at Martini were often favored. The Viet girls knew how to perform and did without hesitation. Now, it seems the gals in both BKK and PP would rather suck than fuck, and that suits me fine. LOL.

So guys in PP in their 30's, 40's, and 50's should appreciate what they are experiencing at the moment: the lowest cost for mongering in SEA. For, in another 20 or 30 years, the bars will probably be outfitted with "virtual" bargirls and cost $300 per hour. (I'm sure the Japanese are onto this already. LOL).

SS.

My experience is dated to October and I have added my experience in the Vietnam threads. I am a tourist type who enjoys seeing the sites. I am not a monger, but am a man who enjoys playing Dating Site Roulette. I had spoken to three ladies who agreed to meet me. As luck would have it I landed in PP during Pchum Ben, a major Buddhist holiday where friends and family leave the cities to visit their families in the provinces. I was totally unaware of this and two said they were out of town. Number three was very welcoming but our interaction involved me to traveling with her and her family to visit a Pagoda and giving them rice and pretend money at the temple. A great cultural experience but it was clear that was not going anywhere so off to Angkor Wat I went for a few days of sight seeing.

I generally keep my plans very open so as not to get trapped and this time it back fired on me. The second lady told me that had she known when I was arriving she would have accommodated me however she was away with her family and was following her family's plans.

I got the same story from the third lady, but she messaged me later saying she would be arriving back to Phenom Penh while I was still in Cambodia. We met and she matched her pictures of a short, attractive, slim Khmer lady in her early forties with one child who did not live in her city. We made a quick stop to my room to change clothes at which point she sat me on the bed and demurely let me know that this would not be a free encounter. I believe the way she laid it out was that if I was looking for a relationship she was interested but needed to be looked after, and if I was not looking for a relationship she was interested but needed to be looked after. lol No terms were discussed, but from that point on it was clothes off reveling a very good body, fully and smoothly shaved covered only with a red g string. She seemed wide open to anything I was interested in trying. What followed was a passionate full GF BB session complete with BBBJ and CIP. We stayed together the next two nights and days, toured the sites outside the room, and slept naked together at all times allowing and encouraging me to nudge her wake at any time I had an inkling. The only times she wasn't naked were when we left the room. For this I paid the princely sum of $50 US when we parted ways. As I said money was never discussed and she seemed satisfied with my parting gift. She said she had only done this three times previously. Two times did not involve sex because her partner lacked the ability, and the third time was a one shot encounter.

She seems to have enjoyed herself enough to recently agree to meet me in Ho Chi Minh City for my upcoming trip in September. I am grey haired and older than many mongers, but for me Dating Sites with ladies who are mid thirties into their late forties are my preferred MO. From my experience these are very enthusiastic and giving ladies.

[QUOTE=Amanut;2331451]She seems to have enjoyed herself enough to recently agree to meet me in Ho Chi Minh City for my upcoming trip in September. I am grey haired and older than many mongers, but for me Dating Sites with ladies who are mid thirties into their late forties are my preferred MO. From my experience these are very enthusiastic and giving ladies.[/QUOTE]Seems like you have found a keeper. Good on you mate!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2317484]This is my fifth trip to PP in the last 3 years and this time I stayed at yet another new hotel, Tao Riverside Residence. A separate report on the hotel will follow.

Disclaimer My post is simply a reflection of my observation, I personally hold absolutely no grudge or bias against any individual, community, nationality, colour, race, economic background or sexual orientation.

Top Ten Highlights...[/QUOTE]Thank you Blanquiceleste for this super useful report.

I went to PP a couple of weeks ago (first time) and here's a few things from the trip:

Tuesday night:

First went to Street 136 around 9 pm I think.

Checked Secrets: nice and classy as described (for PP standards), live music going on, hardly any customers. Waitress jumped on me and wanted me to sit, I don't like being pushed so I stood for a couple of minutes just to feel the ambiance. Half a dozen girls in red top (aka barfinable) sitting nearby, nothing overly attractive, few couples or small groups in couches. I left and returned to street 136.

Streets were empty, bars too. Went to 136 bar (corner street 130 I think), live music - 1 girl singing and 1 guy playing, half the girls busy with a group of Chinese men in the back room. Left after a short while, returned later. Chatted with a nice-looking girl (7/10), good English, unfortunately had her periods. Not pushy at all for drinks, so just nice chat. A couple of other girls joined, eventually not possible to take them out. A really pretty one declined to make herself available. Lady Drinks were 3.75 $.

In between I went to Tokyo Bar, seeking shelter from the rain. Some girls outside were having dinner or not doing much, none approached me. Inside were a small group of young Asian men, who left apparently without any girl.

Tried next door Alaska bar, had a peak inside: completely empty, looked depressing as hell, so I stayed outside. Offered a LD to a very cute and very young girl (said she was 19, looked even less) who could not speak English, after 10 minutes of difficult exchange I asked her several times if she wanted to go with me or could barfine, but "no". Apparently the daughter of someone working at the bar (according to another girl). Other girls hanging around were not really attractive (for me a least) and they did not try to approach me.

Lady Drinks were 4 $.

General ambiance in both Tokyo and Alaska bars seemed to be of a rest day for the girls, clearly not looking too hard to get laid.

At the end (after leaving 136 bar for the second time), I went back to Secrets. This time at the entrance were about 5-6 girls in red tops clearly looking to attract the few potential clients. Two immediately grabbed my arms. They were pretty good looking (and young) so we went inside. Bought them LD, chatted like 15 min while live band playing well enough to be pleasant.

One of the girls was 21, name "Nin", pretty face and of course hot body at this age. Spoke average English. The other one I can't remember her name, a bit complicated. A tad below her friend face-wise, but 19 or 20 yo and eager to please. Could hardly speak English. Both were the "petite" type.

Around they were not many other red top girls and none as attractive as mine. It was around 23 or 23:30 so maybe the best-looking ones had gone with clients already?

Decided to take the two. They were surprised. Asked if I wanted ST or LT. 50 $ for ST, 100 $ for LT. Took LT for both. Barfine was indeed 20 $ each.

Decent experience in bed. "Nin" was not much into it but no problem to hug her naked in bed and to fuck, although quite passive (but what a hot body! The other was much more active, kissing, moving etc. Hardly any interactions between them, but I didn't care for that. Overall good fun, we fell asleep around 4 am. They were young and not much experienced, which was fine with me but if you're into PSE you would have been disappointed.

Next evening (Wednesday) I went out late (around 22:30) and went straight to Circee as I wanted to repeat the threesome experience but less costly and short time only. Was assaulted by 8-9 girls immediately (some others were upstairs with a group of Japanese men, as per the owner). If you're on the shy side, it can be a bit bothersome to be surrounded by girls begging to be picked (rubbing cock etc.). Chose two, paid 40 $ each for ST.

Next two days I spent with a girl I met on a dating site. But that's a different story and not needed here.

Cheers again for the information provided, really helpful especially for a newcomer.

Hello all,

I'm new to this forum.

I'm visiting to Phnom Penh next weekend and appreciate if you can share some contacts. Interesting to meet khmer girl.

Seeking advice where to stay and where to go.

I will start contributing once I make this first visit.

Thanks in advance.

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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338948]Did you bother to read the one post before your own? It has enough information to get started. And if you read a bit further back there is plenty more that will help you.[/QUOTE]Amen! A+ for being concise and on point. LOL.

Hey guys,

As the title state I have a severe allergy to peanuts but decided to book my trip to Phnom Penh later next month. I do not speak any Khmer unfortunately.

After doing some searches on google I found that there were no specific recommendations as to where I could find a peanut free restaurant.

They did mention that I should only eat at restaurants that are owned by westerners so I would be able to communicate my allergy better. So I was wondering if there were any that you guys knew about?

I will be staying at Point Boutique hotel but am willing to travel to the end of the world (or at least Phnom Penh) for safe options! I am more than happy to eat strict western diet.

I've found that they have Burger King and I was wondering if anyone happened to come across items on their menu that would cause me some concern? Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?

I've learned so much on this thread about my main interests while in Phnom Penh and although this is a bit off topic and a shot in the dark I hope that I can get some information from people that have been on the ground.

Thanks in advance!

Kyra.

[QUOTE=Kyra89;2339946]Hey guys,

As the title state I have a severe allergy to peanuts but decided to book my trip to Phnom Penh later next month. I do not speak any Khmer unfortunately.

After doing some searches on google I found that there were no specific recommendations as to where I could find a peanut free restaurant.

They did mention that I should only eat at restaurants that are owned by westerners so I would be able to communicate my allergy better. So I was wondering if there were any that you guys knew about?

I will be staying at Point Boutique hotel but am willing to travel to the end of the world (or at least Phnom Penh) for safe options! I am more than happy to eat strict western diet.

I've found that they have Burger King and I was wondering if anyone happened to come across items on their menu that would cause me some concern? Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?.[/QUOTE]You should be good sticking to strictly Western fare. Take different photos of peanuts in various forms and show them to the waiter / waitress and then cross your arms and vigorously shake your head to indicate "NO PEANUTS".

Stay safe and report back on your trip.

Another word of advice. The girls. Now they will eat peanuts. Local Khmer food uses peanuts in plenty of ways. If you are going to visit bars and expect to DFK girls, that could become a problem. Think about a strategy to overcome that.

[QUOTE=Kyra89;2339946]Hey guys,

As the title state I have a severe allergy to peanuts but decided to book my trip to Phnom Penh later next month. I do not speak any Khmer unfortunately.

After doing some searches on google I found that there were no specific recommendations as to where I could find a peanut free restaurant.

They did mention that I should only eat at restaurants that are owned by westerners so I would be able to communicate my allergy better. So I was wondering if there were any that you guys knew about?

I will be staying at Point Boutique hotel but am willing to travel to the end of the world (or at least Phnom Penh) for safe options! I am more than happy to eat strict western diet.

I've found that they have Burger King and I was wondering if anyone happened to come across items on their menu that would cause me some concern? Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?

I've learned so much on this thread about my main interests while in Phnom Penh and although this is a bit off topic and a shot in the dark I hope that I can get some information from people that have been on the ground.

Thanks in advance!

Kyra.[/QUOTE]Peanut is a staple food in Asia. They make sauces, use in curries, roasted and mixed in fried foods. You should stick to salads without dressing. Fruits as is. Fast food joints may mix peanuts in their fare. Just because it said McDonald's or Burger King does not mean it is the same as USA. All brands vary their food according to local taste.

I suggest you carry epipen.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2340243]You should be good sticking to strictly Western fare. Take different photos of peanuts in various forms and show them to the waiter / waitress and then cross your arms and vigorously shake your head to indicate "NO PEANUTS".

Stay safe and report back on your trip.

Another word of advice. The girls. Now they will eat peanuts. Local Khmer food uses peanuts in plenty of ways. If you are going to visit bars and expect to DFK girls, that could become a problem. Think about a strategy to overcome that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip about having a picture. Definitely won't be any DFK and I'll probably buy some mouth wash to leave in my hotel bathroom for them to rinse. Do you think the girls will be okay with that? Don't want them thinking I put something in there.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2340246]Peanut is a staple food in Asia. They make sauces, use in curries, roasted and mixed in fried foods. You should stick to salads without dressing. Fruits as is. Fast food joints may mix peanuts in their fare. Just because it said McDonald's or Burger King does not mean it is the same as USA. All brands vary their food according to local taste.

I suggest you carry epipen.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up about the fast food places. I will be carry a couple epipens with me at all times!

[QUOTE=Kyra89;2339946] ...Or if there are any other fast food chains that would be a good option?...[/QUOTE]I suspect that "chains" in general should be good in that it is likely there is an employee on the premises who speaks and understand English. (Chains are usually franchise operations licensed by Western firms.) For starters, KFC and Pizza Company come to mind, although I believe Pizza Co. Is a Thai company that emerged from a dispute with Pizza Hut a couple of decades ago. If you are "adventurous" enough to stray from a "chain", I highly recommend Lone Pine Café. Owned and operated by a California man and his Khmer wife who are both on the premises during hours of operation and very "hands on". [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d7261942-Reviews-Lone_Pine_Cafe-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL] Also, Mike's Burgers. Have been told that a Khmer dude who immigrated from the USA Started this place. No idea if he is still associated. [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d2269904-Reviews-Mike_s_Burger_House-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL] I know from personal experience and word of mouth that both Lone Pine and Mike's are well patronized by expats, tourists, and Khmer locals.

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2340373]I suspect that "chains" in general should be good in that it is likely there is an employee on the premises who speaks and understand English. (Chains are usually franchise operations licensed by Western firms.) For starters, KFC and Pizza Company come to mind, although I believe Pizza Co. Is a Thai company that emerged from a dispute with Pizza Hut a couple of decades ago. If you are "adventurous" enough to stray from a "chain", I highly recommend Lone Pine Caf. Owned and operated by a California man and his Khmer wife who are both on the premises during hours of operation and very "hands on". [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d7261942-Reviews-Lone_Pine_Cafe-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL] Also, Mike's Burgers. Have been told that a Khmer dude who immigrated from the USA Started this place. No idea if he is still associated. [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d2269904-Reviews-Mike_s_Burger_House-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL] I know from personal experience and word of mouth that both Lone Pine and Mike's are well patronized by expats, tourists, and Khmer locals.

SS.[/QUOTE]Thanks a bunch man!

I'll check those places out and I've sent out emails to them as well as the big chain restaurants. Don't know why I didn't think to do it before.

[QUOTE=Kyra89;2340507]Thanks a bunch man!

I'll check those places out and I've sent out emails to them as well as the big chain restaurants. Don't know why I didn't think to do it before.[/QUOTE]Also a great place for good food and service, and whilst I have no allergies, the staff here all hold a strong command of English that you should be right in communicating any concerns with certain dishes should you need to ask questions!

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d6414520-Reviews-Larry_s_110st_Bar_Grill-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL]

Enjoy your trip and have fun.

DingoD.

Another option is eric kayser by the river. A french bakery with nice baguette, then there is lucky market with cheese dairy cold cuts.....

Thanks for the food reccos! Please keep them coming if you guys remember any more.

I've been reading mixed reviews about Point Boutique hotel about AC not working, not being clean, them being overbooked. I was curious to see what you guys thought about going for the higher options to try and avoid these issues. I was going to either book the Deluxe Queen with window or the Junior Suite- King bed. Have any of you stayed At both or either that can provide me with some distinctions between both?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=DingoD;2340583]Also a great place for good food and service, and whilst I have no allergies, the staff here all hold a strong command of English that you should be right in communicating any concerns with certain dishes should you need to ask questions!

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Restaurant_Review-g293940-d6414520-Reviews-Larry_s_110st_Bar_Grill-Phnom_Penh.html[/URL]

Enjoy your trip and have fun.

DingoD.[/QUOTE]I have no idea about Larry's incorporating peanuts in their food. But, having eaten there many times, I can highly recommend it for it's moderate pricing, ambience, service and tasty food.

DingoD. Good recommendation!

SS.

I have also read that medical facilities in Cambodia aren't that great and most tourist get airlifted or prefer to go Bangkok for treatment in case of emergencies. I would buy a travel insurance that covered airlift and has decent hospitalization benefits. Not to induce panic but just to be on safer side. I have visited Cambodia twice and bought the insurance both times. Doesn't cost much. The restaurants on the riverfront serve decent Western food. Stick to breads, bagel and pizza. Most times, especially on St 172 , the restaurants are run by family where family members work as waiters, cooks, cashiers etc. They might not be trained for such situations and I think the onus would be upon you to go through the menu and select the proper dish. Be vigilant and wish you enjoy your trip.

[QUOTE=Forever69;2340598]Another option is eric kayser by the river. A french bakery with nice baguette, then there is lucky market with cheese dairy cold cuts.....[/QUOTE]Eric Kayser is fantastic, a bit pricey though. Love their salads, sandwiches and quiches. And the coffee is great too.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2340991]Eric Kayser is fantastic, a bit pricey though. Love their salads, sandwiches and quiches. And the coffee is great too.[/QUOTE]Yes, indeed a great shop. My favorite is the sourdough bread.

Hey guys,

Am I okay leaving my passport at the hotel or should I keep it on me at all times?

[QUOTE=Kyra89;2344522]Hey guys,

Am I okay leaving my passport at the hotel or should I keep it on me at all times?[/QUOTE]Leave at the hotel and take copy with you.

[QUOTE=Liggi1;2344777]Leave at the hotel and take copy with you.[/QUOTE]Needless to say, in a safe with other valuables such as spare cash, laptop, etc.

If there is no safe, keep inside your luggage and lock it. No need to carry it with you for any leisurely reason.

[QUOTE=Kyra89;2344522]Hey guys,

Am I okay leaving my passport at the hotel or should I keep it on me at all times?[/QUOTE]When I have traveled to Vietnam and Cambodia I have simply brought a large handful of photocopies of my passport. When I checked in I just handed them one of the photocopies. I do the same for other things when a passport is requested. I have never been asked to leave my original passport when I simply provided them a copy at check in. I think most countries advise their citizens to never ever release possession of their original passport. That's a citizen's ticket home. If any hotel insisted that I turn over my original I would simply find another place to stay.

The ladies always dutifully handed over their original ID cards to the front desk receptionist except in Hoi An where the owner simply took a picture of her ID card. She then immediately handed it back to the lady.

The lady I stayed with in Phnom Penh was never asked for her passport at all, however she arrived early in the day so perhaps it was just overlooked later as I had booked double occupancy.

I'm having a hard time finding exact information on where the "chicken farms" are located. The best I've been able to do is find the location of the one in Sihanoukville, but apparently most cities (not just the popular tourist ones) have a chicken farm area where the locals go and pay local rates? Is this correct?

Is there a post or maybe even a list of the chicken farms in Cambodia and their *exact* locations like on Googlemaps or something?

Also, are there any websites in Cambodia that the locals use where you can see working girls, their prices, and arrange somehow to meet them? It's OK, and even preferable, if the website is in Khmer because I would prefer a site that to locals use rather than one with inflated prices for foreigners.

Equivalent examples would be [URL]Kynu.com[/URL] in Vietnam and ****** in Hong Kong.

At my hotel, was hit upon by numerous girls on the Wechat find friends nearby function. Finally got a girl to agree to come near midnight and had to sign some silly thing at the front desk. Girl had lots of makeup on and braces. Fake but pretty soft breasts and had a "funny" looking pussy, almost like a tube with an almost invisible clitoris (post op? Nevertheless she did slightly cream because I tasted her while it was doing DATY, she even watched a porno of a Japanese girl being fucked while she held my head on her pussy. She finally came quietly and pushed me away.

The sex itself was pretty boring and she pretty much was a dead fish during the sex, even refusing to ride me. Didn't really enjoy the sex and glad that I only wanted her for one shot and not all night. Paid 60 for one shot and I know I overpaid, tomorrow I will go looking for street walkers for some cheap pussy. Hopefully make up for the sub-par experience I just had.

Greetings all.

It's been some 5 years, maybe more, since I was regularly visiting PP and enjoying the treats.

I note, with sadness, that Walkabout closed a few years back. I may be unusual, but I thoroughly enjoyed letting time drift by over drinks, pool and the odd liaison with a cute girl. I shall reminisce quietly.

My question is: has an alternate Walkabout sprung up? Or is it just the 136/51 outlets plying their trade these days?

Apologies in advance for current ignorance.

Grateful for any guidance.

Just a quick rundown of a night I had in PP.

I hit 3 bars all kind of grouped together.

1. I think it was called One 3 Six or maybe 1 Three 6. This place was tiny but the AC was cranked, which was a big plus as I wanted to get out of the humidity after walking around for a bit.

Women were sparse and not great. Beer was $2 a draft.

I had one, cooled off, and left.

2. Tokyo Bar. I believe that was the name. It was empty of guests but plenty of female attention. One girl has great English and was not bad on the eyes but also came off a bit annoying. Another sidled next to me. She was pretty cute, maybe 22 and 8/10. But, she has 0 English. Not necessarily a bad thing but hard to communicate at all. And she was yawning about to fall over. A couple others would walk by and bicker with the first girl as the tried to push her side.

Not bad but I wanted to check out more.

Had one pricey $4 beer.

3. Island Bar. This was another small place. I guess that's a recurring theme? It was dead when I got there but had ebs and flows over the time I stayed.

An attractive 26 year old jumped at the chance to get she lady drinks. She was dressed cuter rather than sexier, which I have no problem with. She was not pushy either.

I ended up playing some table games with her and a gay bartender. He also might have been the best Jenga player I have ever seen.

Anyway they weren't pushy at all, which I appreciate. I bought them and myself 4 rounds which came to $34. It was more than I wanted to spend on drinks but it was pretty cheap overall. And we played games and bullshitted for a few hours. Well worth the $ for the time.

It was getting late so I was ready to go. The lovely lady asked 50+10 for LT. It seemed low but it was late so maybe that's why. That was impossible to pass up.

We grabbed some food on the way back and one in the room she was even more affectionate. She was warmer than many actual girlfriends I've had, so a full on GFE.

We slept way too late the next day, but she was completely in dream land so I just let her rest up.

3 vastly different experiences in 3 bars that were all within a 5-20 minute walk from one another.

Have been hit up a lot on Wechat and got this girl that seemed really interested, quoted me 200 US but I got it down to 60 after much negotiation. Was staying at Nagaworld and she said I would have to meet her to take her up. Time comes and she says she is downstairs. First girl I see is really tall and a model, but turns out wrong girl (oops) back downstairs to pick her up. This girl comes up the escalator, I show her our Wechat talk history and she says it is her. She has a really hoarse voice that at first made me think Ladyboy (but no Adams apple so I thought I was safe).

In the room she keeps asking for more after I pay her the 60, says 20 for make love and I say no, price was already agreed on. So she starts to give me a rather clumsy hand job with condom on and no BJ. She finally gets on me, reverse cowboy but no penetration, just a lot of yanking and pulling WTF?. After a bit of this she gets off and keeps on trying but I am so distracted by this weirdness that nothing happens. So I just say Fuck it and tell her to leave. I look at my phone and its the other girl saying where am I? She has been waiting 20 min for me and was knocking on my door (which I did not hear). Other girl keeps on looking at my phone and nosing in. While she is getting dressed doorbell finally rings, the real girl is outside with one of the hotel staff. Oh shit.

I push the girl out the room, and she says the oddest thing, "tell them you pay me 100 not 60" and she is gone. Other girl is still waiting in elevator lobby with hotel guy. I have her come in but close the door on the guy who was following a little too close. Inside other girl acts really mad, saying she wait for 20 and demands I pay her. I act poor and say I have no more, other girl took it. So she starts to type on phone and a voice message comes over, I am guessing to say have me go to ATM to take out cash, NO FUCKING WAY I AM DOING THAT. So I have some extra British pounds on me, about 150 Pounds and I give it to her saying it all I have. She asks if its China money and I say no, England, She then takes a pic and sends it out, guess her "boss" says the money is good and she smiles and relaxes visibly (even though her tantrum seemed a little weak and only for show. Anyway she pockets the money and leaves.

I get the distinct feeling halfway through this that it was an elaborate setup to get more money out of me. They did get an extra 150 pounds, which is much more than the 100 US they were asking and which is hopefully why they are not bothering me now.

Brothers please be careful out there, lots of different scams and other traps set up, if all we have to do is pay more then we are lucky. As for me, no more pussy finding on this trip or my following trip to Vietnam tomorrow. For now its me in the hotel room re-watching Chernobyl and wacking off to perverted Japanese porn.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42;2349188]Have been hit up a lot on Wechat and got this girl that seemed really interested, quoted me 200 US but I got it down to 60 after much negotiation. Was staying at Nagaworld and she said I would have to meet her to take her up. Time comes and she says she is downstairs. First girl I see is really tall and a model, but turns out wrong girl (oops) back downstairs to pick her up. This girl comes up the escalator, I show her our Wechat talk history and she says it is her. She has a really hoarse voice that at first made me think Ladyboy (but no Adams apple so I thought I was safe).

In the room she keeps asking for more after I pay her the 60, says 20 for make love and I say no, price was already agreed on. So she starts to give me a rather clumsy hand job with condom on and no BJ. She finally gets on me, reverse cowboy but no penetration, just a lot of yanking and pulling WTF?. After a bit of this she gets off and keeps on trying but I am so distracted by this weirdness that nothing happens. So I just say Fuck it and tell her to leave. I look at my phone and its the other girl saying where am I? She has been waiting 20 min for me and was knocking on my door (which I did not hear). Other girl keeps on looking at my phone and nosing in. While she is getting dressed doorbell finally rings, the real girl is outside with one of the hotel staff. Oh shit.

I push the girl out the room, and she says the oddest thing, "tell them you pay me 100 not 60" and she is gone. Other girl is still waiting in elevator lobby with hotel guy. I have her come in but close the door on the guy who was following a little too close. Inside other girl acts really mad, saying she wait for 20 and demands I pay her. I act poor and say I have no more, other girl took it. So she starts to type on phone and a voice message comes over, I am guessing to say have me go to ATM to take out cash, NO FUCKING WAY I AM DOING THAT. So I have some extra British pounds on me, about 150 Pounds and I give it to her saying it all I have. She asks if its China money and I say no, England, She then takes a pic and sends it out, guess her "boss" says the money is good and she smiles and relaxes visibly (even though her tantrum seemed a little weak and only for show. Anyway she pockets the money and leaves.

I get the distinct feeling halfway through this that it was an elaborate setup to get more money out of me. They did get an extra 150 pounds, which is much more than the 100 US they were asking and which is hopefully why they are not bothering me now.

Brothers please be careful out there, lots of different scams and other traps set up, if all we have to do is pay more then we are lucky. As for me, no more pussy finding on this trip or my following trip to Vietnam tomorrow. For now its me in the hotel room re-watching Chernobyl and wacking off to perverted Japanese porn.[/QUOTE]1) Never pay in advance. It does not end well.

2) You never talked to her face to face over the phone? You asked her to come over without knowing what she looked like?

3) You paid her 150 pounds when 50 pounds is more than the $60 you committed to?

To Ragnarok42,

Ya think you were scammed? No, you did it to yourself mate.

#1 I don't know how you could have mistaken the girls. I have never done that in over 30 years of fooling around, (even in my Quaalude days) ha ha, and no wonder the 2nd girl, the intended girl was pissed off.

#2 if I am reading your post correctly, you paid 1st girl in advance. You should have known that PAYING a FL, SW, Hostess Girl, or Bar Girl IN ADVANCE IS ALWAYS a BIG MISTAKE!. The Cardinal Rule of mongering is Never Pay in Advance even if it means losing the girl. If a girl leaves because she won't accept payment after service is rendered it is a sure sign that she was not going to be good in the 1st place, so no loss. Plus there is always a good girl or many good girls just around the corner.

#3 The 2nd girl: well I guess by this time you were shell shocked or something, so I won't go into how or why you parted with your British Pounds except to say it was crazy.

Now here is what you must do: get up, dust yourself off, and get back on the horse that threw you. In other words go down to Darling Darling and pick up a girl or go to one of the many hostess bars instead and do likewise. Be friendly and after one drink ask the girl to come with you if you like her. Settle on the price before you leave the bar. That's all there is too it. You just had a very bad experience. Don't let it ruin your outlook or spoil your whole trip. There are a ton of really nice Khmer girls in Phnom. Yours was an anomaly, bad luck, although the bad luck was seriously compounded by your mistakes. Put it behind you. Just make sure you never repeat those mistakes ever again.

What was the purpose of giving the second girl extra money? If it was some kind of shakedown, even giving her the original fee for "wasting her time" should have been sufficient. Going well over the top of that doesn't seem to make sense at all.

Strange shit can happen when flustered I guess.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42;2349188]Have been hit up a lot on Wechat and got this girl that seemed really interested, quoted me 200 US but I got it down to 60 after much negotiation. Was staying at Nagaworld and she said I would have to meet her to take her up. Time comes and she says she is downstairs. First girl I see is really tall and a model, but turns out wrong girl (oops) back downstairs to pick her up. This girl comes up the escalator, I show her our Wechat talk history and she says it is her. She has a really hoarse voice that at first made me think Ladyboy (but no Adams apple so I thought I was safe).

In the room she keeps asking for more after I pay her the 60, says 20 for make love and I say no, price was already agreed on. So she starts to give me a rather clumsy hand job with condom on and no BJ. She finally gets on me, reverse cowboy but no penetration, just a lot of yanking and pulling WTF?. After a bit of this she gets off and keeps on trying but I am so distracted by this weirdness that nothing happens. So I just say Fuck it and tell her to leave. I look at my phone and its the other girl saying where am I? She has been waiting 20 min for me and was knocking on my door (which I did not hear). Other girl keeps on looking at my phone and nosing in. While she is getting dressed doorbell finally rings, the real girl is outside with one of the hotel staff. Oh shit.

I push the girl out the room, and she says the oddest thing, "tell them you pay me 100 not 60" and she is gone. Other girl is still waiting in elevator lobby with hotel guy. I have her come in but close the door on the guy who was following a little too close. Inside other girl acts really mad, saying she wait for 20 and demands I pay her. I act poor and say I have no more, other girl took it. So she starts to type on phone and a voice message comes over, I am guessing to say have me go to ATM to take out cash, NO FUCKING WAY I AM DOING THAT. So I have some extra British pounds on me, about 150 Pounds and I give it to her saying it all I have. She asks if its China money and I say no, England, She then takes a pic and sends it out, guess her "boss" says the money is good and she smiles and relaxes visibly (even though her tantrum seemed a little weak and only for show. Anyway she pockets the money and leaves.

I get the distinct feeling halfway through this that it was an elaborate setup to get more money out of me. They did get an extra 150 pounds, which is much more than the 100 US they were asking and which is hopefully why they are not bothering me now.

Brothers please be careful out there, lots of different scams and other traps set up, if all we have to do is pay more then we are lucky. As for me, no more pussy finding on this trip or my following trip to Vietnam tomorrow. For now its me in the hotel room re-watching Chernobyl and wacking off to perverted Japanese porn.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]As promised, here my report from my recent PP trip:

I spent only 4 days in PP, stayed at the Lux Riverside on 136 Street, which was quite pleasant. As I booked right before the trip the room I wanted was taken, so I chose the King Suite room. It was very spacious but extremely dark, no ceiling lights. I asked to switch but all they had was the VIP suite but I had to pay 30 dollars extra per night. As I was not on an extreme budget constraint I obliged (after verifying that the VIP suite on Agoda indeed costs more than 30 bucks extra). It was an awesome suite, one large bed room and a humongous living room and kitchen. It included balcony facing the bars right opposite side of the street. As the VIP suite is on the 2nd floor I had a great view of the action from the balcony.

My mission on this trip was to find some spinners who wore sexy lingerie and high heels and boy, PP did not disappoint. I just never found what I was looking for in Thailand or Phili but here in PP a number girls were dressed quite nicely and looked very appealing. Additionally, I wanted to bareback the girls I chose as I really prefer it that way. When I bareback I generally prepare very well to protect myself and the girls. This may sound crazy to some but I go the extra mile when I bareback girls. I started taking my Tenvir-them pills daily 7 days before the trip. Tenvir-them has a high success rate of preventing HIV infection. I ordered my meds from a clinic in Thailand online a while ago and also order refills from there since (happy to share with anyone if you contact me via PM). I also bought HIV-test kits that show results 20 minutes after injecting a blood drop onto the test bed. Then I got STD test kits as well and I bought Morning-After emergency pills for the girls to prevent pregnancy. This is my usual 4-level protection Of course a small risk remains of HIV or STD infections but I believe the risk is incredibly low with the precautions I generally take. I also screen the girls and do not choose those who look like they had too much mileage. It is all worth it for me to shag a sexy girl bare back. Nothing beats that feeling to cum inside of her. In addition, with the girls knowing how I prepare they are much more relaxed in doing bare back and actually enjoy it..[/QUOTE]Thank you! Very good info! Your detailed report was interesting as I am facing a similar situation. Is it lust or love? As I have aged, I am more and more attracted to the 25 to 30 year old ladies instead of the 30+ age group that I usually hang out with. It seems to be lust so just one more trip to HCMC to visit her. Last trip for me and then move on? Maybe.

Hello brothers,

Thanks for all the good advice, I am now in Hanoi but business should bring me back to PP soon enough.

Will put all your advice to practice when I get back to town.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2348152]I'm having a hard time finding exact information on where the "chicken farms" are located. The best I've been able to do is find the location of the one in Sihanoukville, but apparently most cities (not just the popular tourist ones) have a chicken farm area where the locals go and pay local rates? Is this correct?

Is there a post or maybe even a list of the chicken farms in Cambodia and their *exact* locations like on Googlemaps or something?[/QUOTE]Its been a few years since I was there but, if you head over to Kampot which, isn't far from Sihanoukville, you'll have a better chance of checking out the farms. Also, there is an area called the 'Durian Roundabout' in Kampot where streetwalkers mill around looking for customers. It's been a while since I was there so, I would think not much has changed.

[QUOTE=MeatMan;2349685]Its been a few years since I was there but, if you head over to Kampot which, isn't far from Sihanoukville, you'll have a better chance of checking out the farms. Also, there is an area called the 'Durian Roundabout' in Kampot where streetwalkers mill around looking for customers. It's been a while since I was there so, I would think not much has changed.[/QUOTE]I'm in Kampot right now.

I didn't see any SWs in the Durian Roundabout, just locals lounging about at night.

I also took a motorbike and cruised everywhere. I couldn't identify any particular place with working girls, like cafes or shacks where scantily-dressed girls wait around. Nothing that would indicate a red light area like neon lights or posters of hot girls. All I saw were a few KTVs with a lineup of girls sitting together in the lobby, but doing karaoke just to get laid is the last thing I want to do.

I did see one or two white older expats with sexy-looking Cambodian women though just walking around town.

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2350540]I'm in Kampot right now.

I also took a motorbike and cruised everywhere. I couldn't identify any particular place with working girls, like cafes or shacks where scantily-dressed girls wait around. Nothing that would indicate a red light area like neon lights or posters of hot girls. All I saw were a few KTVs with a lineup of girls sitting together in the lobby, but doing karaoke just to get laid is the last thing I want to do.[/QUOTE]You'll probably have moved on by the time this gets posted. However.

Across the river is a big open beer bar / restaurant type venue where freelancers ply their trade.

You might want to check out Cambodia Redcat. The admin of the site has some good info regarding many destinations, including Kampot. It could save you some time. Here is a link regarding Kampot. [URL]https://www.cambodiaredcat.com/kampot-highlights/[/URL].

SS.

[URL]https://www.cambodiaredcat.com/kampot-highlights/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MeatMan;2349685]Its been a few years since I was there but, if you head over to Kampot which, isn't far from Sihanoukville, you'll have a better chance of checking out the farms. Also, there is an area called the 'Durian Roundabout' in Kampot where streetwalkers mill around looking for customers. It's been a while since I was there so, I would think not much has changed.[/QUOTE]A lot has changed in Kampot. I don't know when you have seen FL walking around at Durian Roundabout. I have been in Kampot many times and never seen one. No, the big change is all the girlie-bars. Now Kampot have more 12. Easy, easy.

Hi pals,

I've posted a lot in the Thai and Indo forums (you can take a look at my contributions by clicking on my username), but haven't contributed here at all (despite about 15 trips to Phnom Penh over the last decade). Just thought I'd mention that I'll be arriving tomorrow (today -- July 25) afternoon with my brother for four nights. We'll be staying at the Lux on 136 and we're both up for hitting up the regular spots -- Tokyo, Xanadu, Cyrcee, the 104 list, etc -- just wondering if anyone is up for meeting a couple of Canadian lads with a few days and cash to burn and similar hobbies. If you've got anything more 'exotic' to share, I'm all ears. I don't currently have PM abilities, but I'm sure we can work something out as I'll be checking this lovely forum frequently.

Happy hobbying, all!

[QUOTE=AskeAske;2350869]A lot has changed in Kampot. I don't know when you have seen FL walking around at Durian Roundabout. I have been in Kampot many times and never seen one. No, the big change is all the girlie-bars. Now Kampot have more 12. Easy, easy.[/QUOTE]I would say it's been about 3.5 years since I was in Kampot. I stayed at the Rikitiki Hotel which wasn't far. Had a motorbike rental, passed the roundabout and saw 3-4 girls milling about. I will take your word that things have changed.

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2350540]I'm in Kampot right now.

I didn't see any SWs in the Durian Roundabout, just locals lounging about at night.

I also took a motorbike and cruised everywhere. I couldn't identify any particular place with working girls, like cafes or shacks where scantily-dressed girls wait around. Nothing that would indicate a red light area like neon lights or posters of hot girls. All I saw were a few KTVs with a lineup of girls sitting together in the lobby, but doing karaoke just to get laid is the last thing I want to do.

I did see one or two white older expats with sexy-looking Cambodian women though just walking around town.[/QUOTE]I think one of the ways to find about chicken farms or girly bar in most places in Asia, is to politely enquire with tuk tuk guys or bellboys at the hotel. I wouldn't recommend it as mostly you end up with meeting women of their taste than yours. But it does work.

[QUOTE=Nazgylg15;2351175]I think one of the ways to find about chicken farms or girly bar in most places in Asia, is to politely enquire with tuk tuk guys or bellboys at the hotel. I wouldn't recommend it as mostly you end up with meeting women of their taste than yours. But it does work.[/QUOTE]What is the Khmer word (s) for these establishments or areas? Is "chicken farm" literally just called or "ksedthan chenhchum mean" (a direct translation of chicken farm)? Or do you just go up to tuk tuk drivers and ask them "where are the prostitutes?

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2351680]What is the Khmer word (s) for these establishments or areas? Is "chicken farm" literally just called or "ksedthan chenhchum mean" (a direct translation of chicken farm)? Or do you just go up to tuk tuk drivers and ask them "where are the prostitutes?[/QUOTE]Mostly you get accosted by these guys. In Siem reab, it has happened multiple times to me. In pub street and areas around, you get asked "Sir, you want lady? In Phnom Penh, they are even worse "Want lady? Small little lady? I never entertain these people and would never recommend as well. In Phnom Penh, I had a tuk tuk guy who took me around to killing fields, museum and local city tour. He was a decent guy and we talked on various things during the trip and slowly I asked him about local girls and girly bar during casual drink. He then told about the what Phnom massage bars and girls around what Phnom etc. He said he could get me girls but I declined politely. He even tried to set me up with young cute waitress I was eyeing in the restaurant. Same was the experience in Colombo and Yangon. Sometimes these guys can be your wingman.

In short,

1) There are guys who accost you for women. Never entertain them.

2) Befriend a local guy (not just for this purpose) and ask him casually.

And never ask a random stranger "Where are the prostitutes". Many would get offended that the foreigner does not have respect for local women and culture. Lot of people consider the hobby immoral.

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2351680]What is the Khmer word (s) for these establishments or areas? Is "chicken farm" literally just called or "ksedthan chenhchum mean" (a direct translation of chicken farm)? Or do you just go up to tuk tuk drivers and ask them "where are the prostitutes?[/QUOTE]Khmer use the word "moaan" for "chicken" so it might be the word "mean" in your direct translation but I don't know how they say "farm". Don't even know if they use something as "chicken farm".

You could say " where are the cheap prostitutes?" by saying "srey nii man tlaay neu aye nah?

Can I actually post my experience in Cambodia here?

Like the full on details. Names and places I have been to and even add pictures?

Been here the past 1 year, interesting experience I would say. Pardon me for the long post. Just sharing information about Phnom Penh.

Night live.

Basically, st 136 is still bustling with the bars and plenty of bargirls. Some more vocal than others.

136 best bars I would say is.

136 corner bar. Has a 2nd floor with KTV rooms. Live dancing sexy dance shows. Plenty of beautiful ladies.

Xanadu bar.

Spiderman bar.

Hello sweet bar.

Generally has the cute looking ones.

To avoid.

Candy bar. Tends to rip you off.

St 5.

A great night bar.

Angels bar.

Basically, LD is about 3.75.

Short time is from 50-60.

Long time is 100.

There are also walkers near the what Phnom area, but caution they can be a bit of a risky choice. Bar girls tend to be safer.

Clubs.

Pontoon.

Darling Darling.

Club love.

Filling station (Filipina) a bit on the expensive side.

You can find girls freelancing and yes ladyboys as well so you got to keep your eyes peeled.

Social escorts.

No many of these on Phnom Penh, but there is one that I think is safe and worth the try.

I did and I must say they are pretty top notch and discreet.

Deals mostly local and Filipina and the occasional Thai and Vietnamese.

They have a facebook page too and a neat booking system.

I think their girls can be taken out long term as well in case you fancy them and would them to follow you around on your travels or trips.

[QUOTE=RyomaAldini;2352752]Can I actually post my experience in Cambodia here?
{Snip} [/QUOTE]Please do so.

Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.

[QUOTE=RyomaAldini;2352755]Been here the past 1 year, interesting experience I would say. Pardon me for the long post. Just sharing information about Phnom Penh.

Night live.

Basically, st 136 is still bustling with the bars and plenty of bargirls. Some more vocal than others.

136 best bars I would say is.

136 corner bar. Has a 2nd floor with KTV rooms. Live dancing sexy dance shows. Plenty of beautiful ladies.

Xanadu bar.

Spiderman bar.

Hello sweet bar.

Generally has the cute looking ones.

To avoid.

Candy bar. Tends to rip you off.

St 5.

A great night bar.

Angels bar.

Basically, LD is about 3.75.

Short time is from 50-60.

Long time is 100.

There are also walkers near the what Phnom area, but caution they can be a bit of a risky choice. Bar girls tend to be safer.

Clubs.

Pontoon.

Darling Darling.

Club love.

Filling station (Filipina) a bit on the expensive side.

You can find girls freelancing and yes ladyboys as well so you got to keep your eyes peeled.

Social escorts.

No many of these on Phnom Penh, but there is one that I think is safe and worth the try.

I did and I must say they are pretty top notch and discreet.

Deals mostly local and Filipina and the occasional Thai and Vietnamese.

They have a facebook page too and a neat booking system.

I think their girls can be taken out long term as well in case you fancy them and would them to follow you around on your travels or trips.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DingoD;2353078]Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they have some new faces and tight ones. Some of the other bars has also step up.

Especially in st 108 and st 118.

If you are ever do look me up, I might be able to surprise you with some goodies. Hahahah.

Personalized goodies.

[QUOTE=RyomaAldini;2352755]Short time is from 50-60. Long time is 100.[/QUOTE]Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2353078]Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.[/QUOTE]I was there in May. I can confirm the relative quality of the offerings. When I and my wingman sat down, we weren't greeted by a flash mob. The two girls we invited to sit with us weren't pushy or thirsty. Nursed their drinks at a leisurely pace. I'm guessing that there were 12-15 girls in the joint at the time. 80% doable.

Sweetie Bar gets little attention. However, the average age of the hostesses seemed to be about 21. And, yes, there were some cute ones there you could call "sweeties". LOL.

Many of the pics posted from Xanadu were also posted on another facebook page. Some interesting discussions (sometimes) regarding the PP hostess bar scene. You might want to take a look. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1062695980532551/[/URL].

SS.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2353089]Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.[/QUOTE]Indeed, shocking compared to 15 years ago. But I also get sticker shock in BKK when compared to 15 years ago. LOL Viets seem to be relatively rare today in PP compared to yesteryear. Many were sent packing back home by the authorities. You see some wild prices quoted here. But I think they are more anecdotal than what is actually negotiated (except as paid by monied Asian punters on a biz trip). For the last 2-3 years, I've consistently scored ST for $30 and LT for $60-$70. Granted, none were Miss Universe, but none were dogs either. And service was as advertised.

SS.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2353089]Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.[/QUOTE]You can still find 40 short time and 60 long time if you're willing to negotiate.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2353089]Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.[/QUOTE]So 18 to 20 years later you expect the price to be the same? In 2040 you will be shocked to death at prices then, that's if you can still get the product you're getting now.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2353078]Great pics, great report! Looks like Xanadu has lifted its game and staff quality since I was last there, can spot a number of very doable tight young things in your pics from that bar. Don't remember it being very good but your pictures prove otherwise but also prove my thoughts that the staff turnover in these bars is so great that after 2 or 3 months things can change dramatically! Looking forward to my next trip to PP even more after this post and pics.

Cheers.

DingoD.[/QUOTE]His pics were taken from a social account media so you might have a hard time trying to find these beauties in your next trip.

He didn't say he expected the prices to be the same. I think most people would find an 800% rise in price for a ST if not shocking, a bit over the top. In 2000 you could buy a beer for a dollar. In 2019 you can still buy a beer for you guessed it, a dollar. As for 2040, forget it. Either we will be dead or the scene will. Or maybe it will be $320 for ST!

SE.

Hello!

I'm spending a weekend in PP during late October. The primary purpose of my visit isn't mongering, but if I have the opportunity I'll take advantage. My limiting factor is that I'm staying at the new Courtyard by Marriott. The hotel looks lovely and I'm sure I'll enjoy my stay, but I find it extremely unlikely that they will allow a local lady friend as a guest. Anyone have experience with hotels like that?

My understanding is that there are plenty of short stay places if I want a couple hours with a lady. I'll probably hit up Darlin and Secrets as they sound like a sure place to find some quality talent. I'm sorry if this angers the negotiators and bargain hunters but I'm definitely not interested in finding the best deal. My usual haunts are strip clubs in the US because that's what I have regular access to. It cracks me up to read people complaining about 100 USD to spend an entire night with a girl. I'll bargain, but 100 is a steal for a hot woman. Especially if I only have one night to find her.

At the same time I totally get it. If you are devoting a week to the hobby it makes sense to get the very best price.

Either way, any info regarding the Marriott and short stay places is appreciated. If I get up to anything I'll leave a report.

"I'll bargain, but 100 is a steal for a hot woman." It sounds like you'll fold faster than a wet cardboard box. The chicks are going to love you!

All — I would love your help as I am looking at spending about 10 days in Cambodia June 2020. A single 40 ish, fit, male traveling solo. After a long school year, I think I would like to see 2 places within this journey. Phnom Penh is definitely one. Being the capital with hostess bars, Palaces, Killing fields, etc. I'm asking where else would you see for stop #2?

I'm typically a beach person and am leaning that way. I also don't want to take up a whole day traveling. I like sun, fun, beach, beach bars, and some good mongering places to hang out!

Thanks in advance for your advice. My search is on!

[QUOTE=Runmemphis;2354876]All I would love your help as I am looking at spending about 10 days in Cambodia June 2020. A single 40 ish, fit, male traveling solo. After a long school year, I think I would like to see 2 places within this journey. Phnom Penh is definitely one. Being the capital with hostess bars, Palaces, Killing fields, etc. I'm asking where else would you see for stop #2?

I'm typically a beach person and am leaning that way. I also don't want to take up a whole day traveling. I like sun, fun, beach, bAt least in my opinion. each bars, and some good mongering places to hang out!

Thanks in advance for your advice. My search is on![/QUOTE]Sihanoukville or Kep (and Kampot). Neither the beaches nor the mongering is worth the trip though. At least in my opinion.

Did you do any research on the country at all? You can not reach any of the beaches without a full days travel. The only one that had a pussy presence (and still does although in a different form) is Sihanoukville which is one giant Chinese construction site. Enter at your own risk. The other options are Koh Kong, a sleepy town with little pussy available, and Kep, an even smaller sleepier town with no pussy available. If beaches and pussy are your thing then Cambodia is the wrong destination.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2354551]"I'll bargain, but 100 is a steal for a hot woman." It sounds like you'll fold faster than a wet cardboard box. The chicks are going to love you![/QUOTE]I'm not going to argue with that assessment. The question is, will I like the chicks?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2355077]Did you do any research on the country at all? You can not reach any of the beaches without a full days travel. The only one that had a pussy presence (and still does although in a different form) is Sihanoukville which is one giant Chinese construction site. Enter at your own risk. The other options are Koh Kong, a sleepy town with little pussy available, and Kep, an even smaller sleepier town with no pussy available. If beaches and pussy are your thing then Cambodia is the wrong destination.[/QUOTE]Yes! That's all I have been doing is reading and research. It doesn't have to be Beach. I have spent the last decade of trips beachside in Sosua, DR and Negril, JA.

Is Siem Reap worth discussing?

I know I could always hop a quick plane to Thailand but trying to convince myself that something else may be worthwhile!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2354977]Sihanoukville or Kep (and Kampot). Neither the beaches nor the mongering is worth the trip though. At least in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Thank you. That was the same as I have been reading.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2354977]Sihanoukville or Kep (and Kampot). Neither the beaches nor the mongering is worth the trip though. At least in my opinion.[/QUOTE]I love Cambodia but the only beach area that I like is Koh Rong which can be fun. The best way to do it is find a girl in PP and take her with you. Just spend two nights in PP and you can definitely find a girl to go to the Islands. Also. I think Kep and Kampot are beautiful and fun. Just bring a girl. I've done that every time. I bet you can find girls in Kampot now be / see a lot of expats moved from Sihanoukville and I bet there are bar girls. I will report back on that as I will be there this weekend.

Many Viet girls At Serendipity Beach Sihanoukville Looking for Customers.

[QUOTE=RunMemphis;2355304]Thank you. That was the same as I have been reading.[/QUOTE]

Siem Reap is a bucket list destination. It is worth a visit but the town is packed with tourists from all over, especially China Korea and Japan although less so for rainy season. And there is pussy.

Bam. I don't know your tastes but if you like Asian girls $100 will get you a very fine piece of tail in PP. Just look before you leap.

I was there in PP for 6 nights and stayed at ohana. Had a very good time.

Girls:

Lot of pretty ones in bar. I mainly visited Loco (130), Wild orchid (130/136 not sure), Alaska (136), office (118) ,airforce (104), marine (104) and old favs Rose (104). Things have changed quite a lot since last visit. Girls no more show preference for LT. ST 2 -3 hrs ,2 shots ,50 $ is prefered. But if you get girl around midnight, she will stay till breakfast. 2 -3 shots,$50-70. It kind of worked for me as well. I usually start the night early at 8 pm and complete the first ST around 10-11 pm. So with bar fine, drinks this costed me around $70-90 on average. Girl $50,BF $10-$15,drinks $15-$30. Then I spent some time in Darling-Darling or casinos in Naga world for a hour or two. Then I would again visit the bar to get the girl for the night. Again $60-$80 on average. Girl $50-$60. BF $10. Drinks $10-$20. So I had two girls, although at different times, on most nights with 2-3 shots each. Cost $130 -$180 per night. Once, I picked a girl from Darling-Darling to just see how she does. She was no different to bar girl, just better dressed and better communication but costed me around $125.12 pm -9 am.

GFE:

All the bar girls were very sweet. Though they preferred to stay only 2-3 hrs except after 12 pm, all of them never rushed and were accommodating. Same with Darling Darling girl except she was pricier.

Bars:

Forget St 104. The quality and atmosphere is not up to my liking. Ones on St130 and 136 were good.

Girly drinks and bar fines:

Most of the bars charge $4 for girly drink. I had mostly two girls with me drinking as I felt the table was more live with couple of girls. At least, I wouldn't be expected to drive the conversation. Costed me $40-$50 per night.

Overall Cost:

I bhad a budget of $125 for the night and $150 for the complete day. I ended up spending $130-$175 for night and around $150-$225 for the day. I did some unplanned day trips as well. The entire trip costed me a little over $1000 which I least expected. Looking back at the numbers, had I restricted myself to one girl, it would have been $600-$650.

Ohana:

Girl friendly. Decent rooms but outdated. Not so good WiFi. Below average breakfast. Lovely pool and roof top jacuzzi.

Phnom penh is still a lovely place but fast changing.

I will be in PP in a week or so.

Any recommendations for a place for a good massage with a BJ CIM end?

Or it that pretty much anywhere?

Thanks.

Been 2 years since last PP visit. Noticeable difference is a lot more high rise. Changing the landscape a lot. The bar streets are the same and girl quality is the same. Visited only two street bars along with Pontoon and Darlin Darlin so far. Route 136 was Ok but only a couple of ones that caught my eye. Air Force One on 104 was fun with a lot of girls and some worth another visit. Pontoon seemed very light on talent. Darlin seemed a little short on talent as well.

Took a spinner from Route 136 who was not normally my type but very keen to please. Ended up A great GFE with a lot of DFK and DATY which juiced her up. Lots of positions and no rush at all. Two shots and sent on her way around 10 am the next morning. Worth the money and time.

PP is still a good place to hunt and find a gem, which is part of the fun. Have a few more nights so will provide FRs as I go.

Happy Hunting.

Have anyone seen a place where to find a pregnant girl in PP?

It seems that as soon as a Cambodian girl get pregnant, she stops working unlike in Philippines for example.

Decided to try street 130: again. Hopped into the bar next to Aifroece One which I think was 121 bar. Small and a few lookers. One cutie caught my eye and asked her to drink with me. Spent time talking to her and while she was a looker, I quickly decided that the vibe was not working for me. Left and hopped into Airforce One. Has a few girls worth a look and while playing pool I spotted one that was my type. Unfortunately she was already being entertained behind a curtain with a group of guys and girls. Interesting setup that area. The guys were having fun groping and the girls were having fun returning the favour. Waited a while to see if she was going to be bar fined and unfortunately she was. Keep this one in mind for tomorrow.

Left and decided to look at Darlin Darlin again. After looking around I spotted a looker with a good package. A few drinks and took her back. So the performance was OK with good BBBJ and nice DATY action. A few positions and she was very wet which helped me to fire the shot. Darlin Darlin is a typical high end bar and the girls are pretty but most have eyes for the Asian guys. Nothing wrong with that at all as it is their bodies and for them to decide who they sell to.

Will head to a few of the other bars tomorrow night. More to come.

Happy Hunting.

Started bar hopping along at 9 pm at about 3 am in the morning my drink was spike by someone and follom me back to hotel and robbed me of my cash. So be careful if you are along drinking you never knoen when its will happen to you. Lucky only my cash is lost. My passport, handphone and my health is alright. Been to Phnom Penh many many time but still happen. Takecare.

This is exactly the kind of report that I find helpful when scoping out a trip myself. I was in Phnom Penh myself about two years ago and was wondering how things had changed. At the time, I found a girl in Phnom Penh, kicked around with her for a few days and then took her to Sihanoukville for a few more days, then sent her home so I could explore Sihanoukville on my own. I am now contemplating a return, and your report has been helpful. Thanks.

Befriend a local guy (not just for this purpose) and ask him casually.

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]When I bareback I generally prepare very well to protect myself and the girls. This may sound crazy to some but I go the extra mile when I bareback girls. I started taking my Tenvir-them pills daily 7 days before the trip. Tenvir-them has a high success rate of preventing HIV infection. I ordered my meds from a clinic in Thailand online ... and also order refills from there ... I also bought HIV-test kits that show results 20 minutes after injecting a blood drop onto the test bed. Then I got STD test kits as well and I bought Morning-After emergency pills for the girls to prevent pregnancy.[/QUOTE]Very prudent. Very thoughtful.

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]So, after all I ended up with only 2 girls but it was one of the best short trip experiences. Especially the second girl …. I will definitely head back to PP soonish in the new year to keep my promise to meet this second gal …. why pay Hong Kong or Singapore prices when you get lucky and have an 8 or 9 in your bed who is willing to give you the total girl friend experience …. Perhaps some experienced punters call me stupid to fall for a working girl.[/QUOTE]I've something similar happen to me on three occasions on visits to Thailand and those deeper connections have been truly special; memories that resonate still.

Great report. Thanks.

[QUOTE=FrancoCan;2261202]Perhaps some experienced punters call me stupid to fall for a working girl. Well I did not fall in love but I definitely like her. It happens I guess, it is life. I have punted for 2 decades and it did happen a few times in my past. So, why not. Perhaps there is a continuation to this story. [/QUOTE]Good trip report. I like Khmer girls too. Many have unique personalities and can be very GFE, sometimes too GFE, ha ha, if you know what I mean, but I also like Filipinas, Indonesian, Vietnamese, Burmese, Chinese, Korean AND Thai girls. Incidentally, I have shagged more Thai girls by a long shot than any other nationality including my own, American. My current group of repeat favorites include 3 Thai girls (BKK, BKK & Phuket), 2 MNL girls, and a Burmese girl. That's a pretty full dance card with several more very nice girls just under the cut off point to make my favorite's list, but despite that, I always find the time to make new acquaintances too. Thus I never know what is going to happen on one of my trips until it is well under way and I like it that way.

But it is definitely not stupid to concentrate on the girls you like best for however long it lasts. The rewards are great, although it is also very satisfying to hook up with NEW girls too. As you can see, I enjoy a healthy mix of the two, but I have found that long time sexy friends wander off, go back home, find a BF or you lose track of them. Others get old and put on weight, or get stale and you lose interest in them. Eventually we all have the need and desire to find NEW. So enjoy your Khmer girl for however long it lasts and Rock On!

I think we would all like more details such as where the drink spiking occurred? Was the thief alone and did he have a weapon? Where did the robbery actually happen? Did you pass out before you arrived at the hotel or were you just incapacitated to the point you could not resist? Nothing good usually happens at 3 am. Regardless of where you are.

[QUOTE=Balongtong;2361083]Started bar hopping along at 9 pm at about 3 am in the morning my drink was spike by someone and follom1 me back to hotel and robbed me of my cash. So be careful if you are along drinking you never knoen when its will happen to you. Lucky only my cash is lost. My passport, handphone and my health is alright. Been to Phnom Penh many many time but still happen. Takecare.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2353089]Really find the prices in PP to be shocking. Used to go a lot in the early 00's. ST was between 5 and 10 USD and LT was 20. And most of the gals were white skinned Viets as well.[/QUOTE]Viets are basically gone from the bars. Still some in the brothels, but not many white guys go to them. Of course you can still get ST for 20 and LT for 30-50 in Phnom Penh quite easily. But wouldn't expect one week tourists with more money than sense to know how haggling and prices work in Southeast Asia. A lady not really into them says "100" and they pay it. It is what it is.

Also, Cambodia has one of the fastest growing economies in the entire world. Phnom Penh has been totally transformed in a matter of a decade. Low level factory workers have had their incomes quadruple, and so have most others. There's serious inflation, which western people haven't seen in a while. Plus Chinese money is flooding in with the casinos and big buildings they're putting up, and along with that, Chinese guys and their local connections splashing big bucks around everywhere. It's nothing for guys to drop hundreds of dollars in a local KTV these days, and the girls know that.

Just finished a short 5 day trip to PP. Had an absolute blast. In my several times of visiting PP this has possibly been the best. I stayed at Tao Riverside Residence on St 144, my second time here and will be my go to place for times to come.

This time I pretty much hung around the infamous Riverside bars. 😅. Did not go to Pontoon or Darlin Darlin or Epic or any other club. Did not bother with the GSM bars either, I was pretty disappointed from my last experience there. Speaking of bars on the riverside, I peeped into nearly every bar on St 136, St 130 and St 104. Plus a few on St 5, St 118 and St 110.

I found the bars on St 104 the most laid back although there was one annoying lady at Boss Bar. Was another extremely annoying hostess at Xanadu who simply refused to go away even after being told to leave me alone. I got the impression there are more bars that have LBs now than before. There needs to some sort of clear messaging about a bar having ladyboys. Speaking of which, the LB manager at Alaska can really get on your nerves.

My money is on Tokyo, Crazy Dog, Loco (a welcome change from my last trip), and Moonrise, where I had a good time besides barfining girls. I also like Airforce on this trip where there was no LD pressure and the girls were definitely pleasant looking (in my last FR I had reported that place to be a cess pool of the ugliest women in PP). I also barfined from Angry Bird, Boss Bar and Xanadu. No bars padded my tab, although a couple of girls at Sexy Night bar on St 5 helped themselves to a couple of extra drinks without asking. I paid and made a mental note to never go in there again. Some bars still try to pull the trick of minimum number of lady drinks before leaving with the girl, despite charging a barfine. Extortion. I had to firmly but politely tell the waitress at a couple of places that I am not a noob and they can stuff those silly rules in their panties. If I remember right, this was Loco and Angry Bird.

Dodging a barfine is easy. Nearly every girl you meet will happily give you her number and come around in the daytime before heading to work. Or come over after the bar closes. Just make sure you tip them well for that effort.

I also was quite disappointed with Secrets. The quality of women seems to have just fallen off the cliff. On my last visit there were several girls worth barfining. None on this trip. Pontoon seems to be back in action as before although I did not get around there on this trip, had my hands full with just the riverside lasses. This is hearsay from the girls.

All in all a short but satisfying visit to Phnom Penh.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2366064]Just finished a short 5 day trip to PP. Had an absolute blast. In my several times of visiting PP this has possibly been the best. I stayed at Tao Riverside Residence on St 144, my second time here and will be my go to place for times to come.
Dodging a barfine is easy. Nearly every girl you meet will happily give you her number and come around in the daytime before heading to work. Or come over after the bar closes. Just make sure you tip them well for that effort.

All in all a short but satisfying visit to Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Curious about current ST and LT asking rates, if any. I was there in May. Confined to St. 136. All of the girls except 1 asked "how much you pay"? Only 1 did not ask. 90% of the time I do LT. Maybe an occasional afternoon ST. I always ask how much they want (if they ask) and I always must negotiate down. I've never paid more that $70 LT and that was for the best looking girl in Candy Bar. (She started at $80; I countered with $60; finally compromised at $70) Most seem to start at $100, which is stupid money in my opinion.

Bottom line: how much were they asking and how much were you paying this trip?

Thanks,

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2366465]Curious about current ST and LT asking rates, if any. I was there in May. Confined to St. 136. All of the girls except 1 asked "how much you pay"? Only 1 did not ask. 90% of the time I do LT. Maybe an occasional afternoon ST. I always ask how much they want (if they ask) and I always must negotiate down. I've never paid more that $70 LT and that was for the best looking girl in Candy Bar. (She started at $80; I countered with $60; finally compromised at $70) Most seem to start at $100, which is stupid money in my opinion.

Bottom line: how much were they asking and how much were you paying this trip?

Thanks,

SS.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your kind words. I deliberately did not mention prices in my report, lest it set off a 2 page argument on you know what. All I will say is that you paid what you thought was a fair price for time with a girl you considered worthwhile to pay for. And if you feel you got your money's worth, nothing else should matter. However, I am happy to drop you a PM and discuss pricing.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2367074]Thanks for your kind words. I deliberately did not mention prices in my report, lest it set off a 2 page argument on you know what. All I will say is that you paid what you thought was a fair price for time with a girl you considered worthwhile to pay for. And if you feel you got your money's worth, nothing else should matter. However, I am happy to drop you a PM and discuss pricing.[/QUOTE]Wise words in your reply. What you said is 100% correct. Some probably think $70 LT is too much; some might call me a "Cheap Charlie". I try to stay the "in range" that my expat friends living there offer me. Thanks for the invite for a PM; unfortunately I don't have PM authorization. Not that I'm a "Cheap Charlie". LOL It's just that it's kind of like jumping through a bunch of hoops to make payment.

Thanks for your reply.

SS.

Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.

[QUOTE=Qeast;2367466]Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.[/QUOTE]What difference does that make? This is a dual currency country. You can have single US bill or a large stack of Riel. Up to you.

[QUOTE=Qeast;2367466]Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.[/QUOTE]For tourist and mongers, financial transactions are mostly in USD. Barfines, drink and lady charge. Its very convenient to pay in USD and most ATMs dispense USD. All prices mentioned in site are USD. Sometimes you may get the change in Riel and you can use I to pay very small bills like a short tuk-tuk ride or food from hawker etc.

[QUOTE=SirWilliam4;2367626]What difference does that make? This is a dual currency country. You can have single US bill or a large stack of Riel. Up to you.[/QUOTE]I didn't know. After your feedback, I did a quick google inquiry. I was shocked to see a report that *84% of all domestic transactions were done in "greenbacks".

[QUOTE=Qeast;2367466]Reading this thread, I have this question: Are you guys paying the ladies using Cambodian riel or US dollars?

Some reporters include details, such as services rendered and corresponding compensation. But I am unclear if the sums quoted mean that you are paying in USD, or the equivalent to USD after conversion.[/QUOTE]As another responder noted, Cambodia uses both riel and dollars. And in some provinces, baht are also often used. (Siem Reap, for instance, as well as the Cambodian towns along the border with Thailand.).

With respect to payment in the bars and girls, US dollars are used almost exclusively. This isn't to say riel could not be used; they just are not (normally). Drink prices are listed in USD, girls quote prices for their services in USD; most menus in restaurants quote USD.

Hope that clarifies for you.

SS.