East China - Shanghai

Hi Wabbittt,

I will be staying at the Jin Jiang tower for about 8 days mid August and since this is my first time in Shanghai, was wondering if you could point me to some good saunas or bbs that are close by. I don't mind taxi-ing abit as well but don't want to venture too far.

Appreciate the help,

K

[QUOTE=Wabbittt; 1440634]I thought I would share a cautionary tale about picking up hotel lobby girls, if only to alert fellow newbies.

I tend to stay in the Jin Jiang Hotel in the French Concession where, late in the evening, the lobby often has a foxy-looking girl hanging around. Previously, when returning with friends, I noticed that such girls often just happen to get into the lift with you, especially if you go up to your room alone. You don't have to be the sharpest knife in the drawer to work out what's going on.

On my last trip to the Jin Jiang, I went to the lift area unaccompanied, and sure enough, I was soon joined by an fantastic looking lobby girl. Curves (by Chinese standards) in all the right places. As soon as the lift doors closed she produced a card giving details of various massage services, which she offered on immediate terms. Suffice to say, negotiations were concluded by the time we got to the fifth floor, which with the benefit of hindsight was a mistake. Lesson One: always take you time when negotiating so that you have a clear idea of what's on offer for the price. In my case, the card she gave me offered a 'Heavenly massage' for RMB 400. I asked her if this included as a HE and she said 'yes'. I reckoned that, while this was rather pricey, it could be viewed as a late night outcall to a five-star hotel and in any case I was as horny as hell.

In the hotel room things started off well. I gave her RMB 200 up front and, on asking, the girl said her name was 'Hooting'. She asked me to undress but didn't bother to take off more than a jacket herself. After a perfunctory massage with a bit of teasing, she said that she could give a HE for an additional RMB 200. I explained that we had already negotiated a price previously but she wouldn't budge. She kept saying 'no money, no honey'. Remembering that I had only given her half of the negotiated fee, I turned the tables and said 'well, in that case, no honey, no more money'. Hooting didn't like this at all and threatened to call the police. I called her bluff (high risk, I know) and told her to go ahead. After further prevarication, she decided to acquiesce and gave me a somewhat hasty HJ. Afterwards, she was sweetness and light, as if our argument had never taken place. I interpret this as indicating that she has made a profit from her activities and wanted to leave open the opportunity of further liaisons on subsequent nights. Some chance. Lesson Two: shop around and, once burned, never give a gold-digger a second chance.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report. I will try them out when I am there in 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=BangBangBang; 1452879]Went there on a friends' recommendation. Super easy to find.

Hours to avoid are before / around lunchtime and after 10 pm.

Good staff attitude, although high traffic. I liked staff attitude and rooks better than 999 or Bodi, although no showers in rooms or ceiling mirrors.

Good fishball. 20+ honeys. Not rushed into taking 2 or the "teacher" (not always pretty or even most skilled. Rather often mecanic)

Picked 189, from Tianjin. Apparently most foreigners like her as she has slightly darker skin. Cute nose, smiley eyes, small breast, tight ass.

Super cute and professional. Did all, offered 69, BBBJ / CIM, fingering. 2 pops, very patient, massaged me in idle time. I liked the attitude and chit-chat...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kzam; 1452896]Hi Wabbittt,

I will be staying at the Jin Jiang tower for about 8 days mid August and since this is my first time in Shanghai, was wondering if you could point me to some good saunas or bbs that are close by. I don't mind taxi-ing abit as well but don't want to venture too far.

Appreciate the help,

K[/QUOTE]I'm not as seasoned as some of the others here but I've had nothing but good times at the sauna in the Merrylin Hotel Chang Hang. It's on the Pudong side but easy enough to get to from the Jin Jiang Tower. Take the metro to Century Ave and exit to Zhang Yang Road. A bit pricey (880 RMB) but worth it for an authentic Shanghai experience.

The forum was great background for a recent trip and I thought I'd write some reviews, starting with the spa / massage and "barber shops". These places are everywhere in Shanghai-four within a block of my hotel near the south train station. The BBSs have rotating barber poles out front but no hair cutting is going on inside. There's usually a couple girls in dresses in a tiny front room, and then small rooms behind or upstairs. The massage places are more established, bigger, and the girls wear uniforms. They always have the English words on their storefronts, Spa and / or Massage. So both kinds of places are very easy to spot.

No one ever spoke English, but using hand signals and pointing to the prices on their menu signs, it's easy to communicate. The girls were 6-8s, in their lower twenties to quite a bit older. Both massage places charged 200 rmb (about 35 US) for an hour oil massage, HE. They have showers. Fondling and extras depended on the place / girl. The BBSs had no showers, were straight to business, and cheaper (100-200 rmb for HJ).

The best of the bunch I can recommend without hesitation: the spa on Liuzhou Road, on the NE corner with Qinzhou South Road, next to the Huilian supermarket and two blocks north of the south Shanghai train station. Number 10 (two crossed index fingers is the sign for the number 10 in Chinese) is a sweet twenty year-old, small but with a nice body. Partway through the massage she sat between my legs, and propped my thighs up on her outstretched legs to raise me up for all kinds of wonderful rubbing-something I've never had done that way before. The deluxe massage for 368 rmb (60 US) included the massage, a tongue bath over all (the bubbly water treatment) , BBBJ (CBJ to finish) , DATY, light kissing, and spewing over her chest. I'm not sure if FS would have been available for extra. She couldn't come to my hotel though.

First, thanks to few people who suggested various things and takeaways in Shanghai. It was really a nice experience.

Totally, I had four takeaways, all awesome experience and none less. This is the account of my first experience. Just bear with me if its too boring, I will post just a quick note in my next post.

This was on a Saturday night and I took the metro to West Nanjing Road and went to Manhattan on a two-wheeler taxi. It was around 12PM. Without saying, the place was full and bustling. Paid the barman for a corona and started looking for potential I liked and lusted for. I have been to pickup bars in a couple of countries and boy, I will admit, none like this (except Thailand). One thing, I have learnt from my travels is that you should bargain and hard. There are times where we may miss some because of petty bargain, but yea, no harm in looking for less damage to wallet.

I spoke to one petite girl (Ana) showing off her cleavage pushed up by padded bra. Though I was not interested in her, I talked to her just to test the waters. I prefer all nights. This may sound absurd. What on earth can I do all night? But, I like this because, I prefer taking care of my morning wood. (who doesn't!) The quoted price was 2500. Somehow she figured out that I was new to this scene. But one thing that immediately turned me on was her perfume. I could smell her from a foot away and she had a nice perfume on her. Knowing that I won't take her out, I was just smiling and asked her few questions, the basic ones. Like where are you from and whats your name etc. And was flirting with her for sometime, just to show few other girls that there is one interested out here. I offered her to buy a drink but she refused showing a water bottle in her hand. She was a Viet with basic English skills. But when you have an english. Viet dictionary in your smartphone (thanks to members who mentioned that there would be mostly viet grls) , things are much easier.

I moved to a corner (the one to the far left after you enter) hoping to get a good view of many available potentials. Many of them, as they were supposed to be, were showing off their slim body and dressed to tease us! I went to this place giving up my hope of finding one Chinese but was surprised to find one but she was not interested in me. I'm slim and kinda tall, I consoled myself that I'm too tall for her! That aside, as a man standing along with one hand on corona and another just inside jean pocket or around you-know-where, I was approached by couple of girls, together. That was another surprise, considering I have never been approached by two together. One of them struck me immediately (Minh) and I wanted her no matter what. She was gorgeous. Pretty tall for the crowd I found there. A clean round face where I couldn't make out freckles or pimples through her make up. She had lip gloss too which was showing off her thick lower lip perfectly. My imagination immediately ran around that lips! She was dressed in Blue, a light blue bordering Aquamarine, party-wear. It was short, halter type and was showing no cleavage at all. But from the borders, I just imagined and hoped that they are of some size. She had a nice long black hair. It was flowing like a river, just to be felt. As they approached, I just hugged her briefly, just to feel her invisible boobs. I could feel something and again, I was not sure whether its a bra or a real thing. She was warm and had very basic English skills. As usual, just flirted with her and played a curious traveler card and she said she was from HCMC. I have been there and we talked for sometime about HCMC and places I have been in Viet. I let her ask me whether I wanted her. It was almost one am. I enquired on the rate and the same 2500 for all nighter. We flirted and finally arrived at 1000 for all nighter (that was cool by me.) I told her I would need just two sessions at night and one in the morning. We came out and she suggested a taxi from a long line which was standing in front. I was adamant not to take any of the taxi standing outside. We walked for few mins and took a taxi to my place. The receptionist in my hotel smiled and didn't bother to notice the girl with me at all.

Earlier in the day, I had bought some cheap 10-20 RMB necklace and earrings. Once we went in, we kissed for a while. Boy, those imaginations about the lips were all true. We parted to take some breadth and I opened and offered her the necklace. She was surprised and parted her hair to the front and suggested me to put it around her neck. Damn, I was lost then. It was a bareback dress which has been covered by her long hair till now and the idiot in me never bothered to notice it at all. I smiled and did as she asked me to do. For a moment, I didn't know what to do. She was elegant and I never imagined a takeaway like that. All these were too good to be true and when something is too good like this, I'm always scared, shit scared. I opened my balcony overlooking the main entrance to the hotel and I sat on the chair and made her sit on my lap and offered her one glass of vodka and I preferred a beer. I did that just to kill time and to see if anyone in the taxi that we didn't take had come! Paranoia.

She was surprised and asked me why are we doing and I without leaving out anything said, we had all night and that was greeted with a blush. We kissed there and I scooped her to the bed. I asked her to undress slowly and was just happy to see the assets she was gifted with. To my satisfaction, she had decent boobs apart from the padded bra. I stood in front of her and asked her to undress me and give me a BJ. I thought she would ask for the money first and surprise again, she didn't. She played with my johnny from the outside and was asking me "like? Like?" which was kinda cute. Then it was BBBJ, which I would consider just normal. Nothing great here. But just the thought of it with an elegant person like her was keeping me hard. Then shower. (First it was new to me but after few meetings I figured that was necessary to clean us, the guys.) She said no CIM, which I agreed. We soaped each other and again, she didn't need any make up at all. Then it was 69 in the bed. I have never done this with anyone I pickup. But what the hell, she was beautiful and ticked almost all boxes and I wanted to please her and stupidly, not the other way around. I hate the fake moans of these people and wanted a genuine one from her. The BJ was still not so great, but I just loved what I did.

To be honest, I'm not well endowed. So I was unsure whether I could really make her moan and cum. It was mish position which proved otherwise. She was tight to my happiness and I never went hard and fast. I was slow, very slow, enjoying the whole length deep in her. The company was good. She did moan, I told myself it was real and I would never know the truth. After a while, it was over. A deep relief in me and I smoked immediately and offered her one. But she had her own light brand. We talked again about her HCMC and why she came here and all. I got her HCMC number and told her I would visit soon. Then after a while, I wanted another BJ while me sitting on a chair and she, kneeling. This time, it was better than the last. (Or was it my imagination after the lustful session?) I tried doggy, pulling her hair gently and admiring her all the while in the mirror. The perfect eye-contact for sometime continuously made my balls weak and leak! Thats it!

We cuddled and smoked again and we chatted on all nonsense topics. I offered her a sandwich and took one myself. I slept cuddling that awesome body of her. Morning was the usual and nothing new or great. But the lust in me didn't go away. I gave her as agreed earlier and asked her if she would spend the day with me, as a companion, not in the hotel room but outside, looking around the city. I was willing to shell out 1000-1500 and she said yes but we didn't speak on the price. Gladly, I showered and dressed up and we went straight to a mall. I bought her a dress, as she was wearing a party wear which would look odd on a sunny and hot afternoon. We went to Nanjing Road, Qipu market and some other places. She was an awesome company. She asked whether I wanted to go to hotel and I said no. I said I wanted a pic of her so I took one and she transferred her nude via bluetooth. We kissed all day everywhere not minding whether one of my vendors could have seen me. It was sheer lust. Good for hormones but bad for wallet. I took her again to another mall and dressed her up to my satisfaction. We came out and kissed again and she took a cab to her place and me back to mine. She didn't ask for anything when she left. Did she forgot or was she intentionally going? Confused and surprised I crashed with her image again and again!

I apologize for too long a post but I hope its worth the read.

[QUOTE=; 1453462]The forum was great background for a recent trip and I thought I'd write some reviews, starting with the spa / massage and "barber shops". These places are everywhere in Shanghai-four within a block of my hotel near the south train station. The BBSs have rotating barber poles out front but no hair cutting is going on inside. There's usually a couple girls in dresses in a tiny front room, and then small rooms behind or upstairs. The massage places are more established, bigger, and the girls wear uniforms. They always have the English words on their storefronts, Spa and / or Massage. So both kinds of places are very easy to spot.

No one ever spoke English, but using hand signals and pointing to the prices on their menu signs, it's easy to communicate. The girls were 6-8s, in their lower twenties to quite a bit older. Both massage places charged 200 rmb (about 35 US) for an hour oil massage, HE. They have showers. Fondling and extras depended on the place / girl. The BBSs had no showers, were straight to business, and cheaper (100-200 rmb for HJ).

The best of the bunch I can recommend without hesitation: the spa on Liuzhou Road, on the NE corner with Qinzhou South Road, next to the Huilian supermarket and two blocks north of the south Shanghai train station. Number 10 (two crossed index fingers is the sign for the number 10 in Chinese) is a sweet twenty year-old, small but with a nice body. Partway through the massage she sat between my legs, and propped my thighs up on her outstretched legs to raise me up for all kinds of wonderful rubbing-something I've never had done that way before. The deluxe massage for 368 rmb (60 US) included the massage, a tongue bath over all (the bubbly water treatment) , BBBJ (CBJ to finish) , DATY, light kissing, and spewing over her chest. I'm not sure if FS would have been available for extra. She couldn't come to my hotel though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. According to your report, I find this place on the search engine. Is it called Min Chun Yang Zu Tang? It's more like a foot massage place than a spa.

Masslin,

That does look like the right link, evidently with an old photo because the sign on the front is different now. The building sign definitely includes the word spa and / or massage in English. I don't know about the Chinese name, Min Chun Yang Zu Tang, because the rest of the signage and literature is in Chinese characters which I don't read. Its menu board definitely includes full body oil massage for 198 rmb (35 US) and the deluxe version I wrote about for 368 rmb.

The Shanghai Nightlife Guide advertises a "new" sauna convenient to my hotel that I was eager to try out but ultimately proved disappointing.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/1066-sauna-shanghai/[/url]

My taxi had a hard time finding it even with the address. 1066 Caobao Road. (it was after dark but early, around 7:00) It's next door to a brightly lit denim place and has a small, elegant storefront with the number 1066. Out front was a doorman / usher with walkie talkie dressed in black. The finishing inside is upscale and elegant.

After checking my shoes I was brought directly to select a girl. Five were lined up, visible through an open door. We could communicate, and I asked the mama san which of the girls liked to kiss (through a translator app). This caused a very unenthusiastic response from the ladies. The mama san told me none of them did and don't ask next time because it turns them off. I'd rate the ladies 7 to 9. I picked a thin one with nice tits and what I thought was the best attitude.

She took me to a well appointed room where we disrobed, and she showered me. (I guess one advantage is having all your clothes with you in a locker) She gave me a scrub and nuru: it was nice having her slippery tits and butt rubbed all over me. Going to the bed, she gave me an oil massage, bubbly water mouth treatment, AR, CBJ, and FS. Overall it was pretty mechanical. There was a lot of clinical wiping of parts and noisy spitting in the garbage.

I would not repeat. Sorry I didn't get the girl's number, but I imagine the others would be similar. 700 rmb (120 US).

[QUOTE=Phreeman69; 1453462]The forum was great background for a recent trip and I thought I'd write some reviews, starting with the spa / massage and "barber shops". These places are everywhere in Shanghai-four within a block of my hotel near the south train station. The BBSs have rotating barber poles out front but no hair cutting is going on inside. There's usually a couple girls in dresses in a tiny front room, and then small rooms behind or upstairs. The massage places are more established, bigger, and the girls wear uniforms. They always have the English words on their storefronts, Spa and / or Massage. So both kinds of places are very easy to spot.

No one ever spoke English, but using hand signals and pointing to the prices on their menu signs, it's easy to communicate. The girls were 6-8s, in their lower twenties to quite a bit older. Both massage places charged 200 rmb (about 35 US) for an hour oil massage, HE. They have showers. Fondling and extras depended on the place / girl. The BBSs had no showers, were straight to business, and cheaper (100-200 rmb for HJ).

The best of the bunch I can recommend without hesitation: the spa on Liuzhou Road, on the NE corner with Qinzhou South Road, next to the Huilian supermarket and two blocks north of the south Shanghai train station. Number 10 (two crossed index fingers is the sign for the number 10 in Chinese) is a sweet twenty year-old, small but with a nice body. Partway through the massage she sat between my legs, and propped my thighs up on her outstretched legs to raise me up for all kinds of wonderful rubbing-something I've never had done that way before. The deluxe massage for 368 rmb (60 US) included the massage, a tongue bath over all (the bubbly water treatment) , BBBJ (CBJ to finish) , DATY, light kissing, and spewing over her chest. I'm not sure if FS would have been available for extra. She couldn't come to my hotel though.[/QUOTE]Whenever I think of the South Train Station, I think of Southern Sauna (Nanfang) Club. Right across Lianhua Road Station.

It's a pretty decent place, similar price and service to 999 and Bodi. Usually has a larger lineup, but also larger clientele which translates to longer wait times.

[url]http://www.aibang.com/detail/1364337914-448286164[/url]

I posted this in the Shenzhen thread a few days ago. Can the brothers in Shanghai help?

This has been widely reported in Hong Kong and China, and even the Australians have picked it up:

[url]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news.-1226674203203[/url]

Does any brother know how to get in touch with these "adult nannies"?

[QUOTE=WooVictor; 1454038]I posted this in the Shenzhen thread a few days ago. Can the brothers in Shanghai help?

This has been widely reported in Hong Kong and China, and even the Australians have picked it up:

[url]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news.-1226674203203[/url]

Does any brother know how to get in touch with these "adult nannies"?[/QUOTE]Your link results in a "404. Page Not Found" message. Try this link instead:

[url]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/rich-get-a-taste-for-breast-milk/story-fnb64oi6-1226674203203[/url]

Unfortunately you need to pay money or have an existing account to read the entire article. The free content goes as follows:

"China's rich get a taste for breast milk.

BY:EMILY FORD From: The Times July 04, 2013 11:19AM.

A lingering cultural belief in the benefits of breast milk as an elixir is leading wealthy Chinese adults to hire wet nurses to provide them with daily doses of it, according to media reports.

Young mothers, mostly from poor rural areas, are being recruited by an agency in Shenzhen, in the southern Guangdong province, to produce breast milk for rich Chinese who believe it carries health-boosting properties.

LOGIN TO READ THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE"

The article may also be posted for free elsewhere, not sure where.

Great Report. Looking forward to visiting Manhattan when I am there in 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1453558]First, thanks to few people who suggested various things and takeaways in Shanghai. It was really a nice experience.

Totally, I had four takeaways, all awesome experience and none less. This is the account of my first experience. Just bear with me if its too boring, I will post just a quick note in my next post.

This was on a Saturday night and I took the metro to West Nanjing Road and went to Manhattan on a two-wheeler taxi. It was around 12PM. Without saying, the place was full and bustling. Paid the barman for a corona and started looking for potential I liked and lusted for. I have been to pickup bars in a couple of countries and boy, I will admit, none like this (except Thailand). One thing, I have learnt from my travels is that you should bargain and hard. There are times where we may miss some because of petty bargain, but yea, no harm in looking for less damage to wallet...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1454137]Your link results in a "404. Page Not Found" message. Try this link instead:

[url]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/rich-get-a-taste-for-breast-milk/story-fnb64oi6-1226674203203[/url]

Unfortunately you need to pay money or have an existing account to read the entire article. The free content goes as follows:

"China's rich get a taste for breast milk.

BY:EMILY FORD From: The Times July 04, 2013 11:19AM.

A lingering cultural belief in the benefits of breast milk as an elixir is leading wealthy Chinese adults to hire wet nurses to provide them with daily doses of it, according to media reports.

Young mothers, mostly from poor rural areas, are being recruited by an agency in Shenzhen, in the southern Guangdong province, to produce breast milk for rich Chinese who believe it carries health-boosting properties.

LOGIN TO READ THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE"

The article may also be posted for free elsewhere, not sure where.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot, Mighty Spearsman. The link that I supplied worked ok when I posted my article, but now there are only two paragraphs available, as you found out.

Anyway, here's another link for those interested:

[url]http://english.sina.com/china/p/2013/0702/604781.html[/url]

[QUOTE=WooVictor; 1454364]Thanks a lot, Mighty Spearsman. The link that I supplied worked ok when I posted my article, but now there are only two paragraphs available, as you found out.

Anyway, here's another link for those interested:

[url]http://english.sina.com/china/p/2013/0702/604781.html[/url][/QUOTE]If you can speak and read Chinese, you can try to contact this company which I found on the internet:

[url]http://www.sn.xinhuanet.com/2013-07/02/c_116369559.htm[/url]

This news mentioned a home making company named "xin xin yu" which provide these "adult nannies" service.

The company's website is down, you can see the contact number from here:

[url]http://web.archive.org/web/20120829202730/http://www.xxyjz.com/[/url]

Shanghai probes sex claims against officials.

Updated: 2013-08-05 01:30.

By Wang Zhenghua in Shanghai (China Daily)

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Video shows court employees consorting with alleged prostitutes.

Shanghai's top court suspended four judicial officials on Sunday amid allegations from an anonymous blogger that they patronized prostitutes.

The scandal came to light on Friday after the anonymous blogger, identified by two newspapers under the surname Ni, posted a video of a group of court officials arm-in-arm with female karaoke partners at a resort hotel on June 9. The blogger claimed five court officials later paid for prostitutes, though the Shanghai Disciplinary Commission said it is investigating four officials.

The commission said on its micro blog on Sunday that the four officials &65293; including Chen Xueming, chief judge of the No 1 Civil Tribunal at the Shanghai High People's Court, and Zhao Minghua, deputy chief judge of the high court's No 1 Civil Tribunal — have been suspended and are being investigated.

The commission pledged it will release results from its investigation to the public.

"The disciplinary commission is investigating the incident, and we have no information on how it is going," Zhang Guanqun, the high court's spokesman, said on Sunday.

Zhang declined to clarify whether four or five officials were being investigated.

The scandal is the latest to embroil Party officials in accusations of sexual impropriety and another major blow to the credibility of China's judiciary system following the removal of former Supreme People's Court vice-president Huang Songyou after he was convicted of bribery and embezzling funds.

Huang was sentenced to life in prison in 2010 for accepting more than 3. 9 million yuan ($636, 000) in bribes.

In the latest scandal, the video shows court officials with prostitutes at Hengshan Resort in Shanghai's Pudong New Area, one of several hotels in the city that are often patronized by Party and government officials on business trips.

Ni, the informant, said he started collecting evidence on Zhao a year ago. Ni claimed that he suspected Zhao inappropriately intervened in a civil case in 2009 that led to an unfair court ruling and consequently to a financial loss of millions of yuan for Ni.

"I was forced to this step because the ruling of that civil case forced me to sell my only apartment," Ni was quoted as saying by Beijing Times on Sunday.

According to the newspaper, Ni and the unidentified company that he owned were involved in a civil case against a plaintiff in 2009. Two lower courts had ruled against him and he also lost an appeal to the Shanghai High People's Court.

In July 2012, he sold his downtown Shanghai apartment to raise enough money for the compensation owed to the plaintiff in the civil case, according to the report.

At the time, Ni discovered that Zhao was a relative of both the plaintiff and his attorney and began looking for evidence against the court judge to show that Zhao violated Party and court rules.

Ni said he then began following Zhao with equipments including an iPad and a smartphone, keeping his whereabouts hidden from his loved ones.

After a year, he said, he had collected enough video clips to reveal Zhao's penchant for spending on luxury items and on women.

Ni also insisted that he collected all of the video evidence through legal means and has never met Zhao personally.

On the evening of June 9, Ni said, he followed Zhao's car to the Hengshan Resort. Chen and three others were Zhao's passengers, the report said.

At the resort, the group ate dinner and sang karaoke in one of the most expensive private rooms. After the group retired to their rooms, the video shows young women entered their hotel rooms and came out after a few hours.

On June 13, Ni said, he asked the hotel management for its surveillance video footage under the excuse that he had his belongings stolen during a falsified stay at the resort.

He then recorded the hotel's video footage with his iPad and smartphone.

According to the Beijing Times, employees at Shanghai's disciplinary commission approached Ni on Friday night and spoke with him for several hours on Saturday at their office. The paper said that Ni told the commission that he was acting under his own volition.

He also revealed that his main target was Zhao and that catching Chen and three others in the video was a windfall.

[source: [url]http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-08/05/content_16869745.htm[/url]]

1) 'Spa' located 1F Venice Hotel corner of JinYu and New Jinqiao Road.

Entered lobby (construction debris all about) , sexy MILF behind counter, hands me a Chinese / English menu, but no explanation for any of the menu items in English. Least expensive option RMB360 for 'Japanese massage' (whatever that is). When I asked her about the items, a guy appears from the back and pulls out a pen and pad and says 'the money'.

No thanks. PASS.

2) Massage place located 3F Business Hotel corner of Jinqiao and New Jinqiao Road.

Place pretty run down. Two early 50's guys behind the counter. PASS.

3) Spa located B1F Grand Metropark Jiayou Hotel, New Jinqiao Road between Jinqiao Road and Jinzang Road. Two SYT behind the counter, English / Chinese menu. Lots of expensive foo-foo items, seems very legit (and expensive). PASS.

4) Massage place located 1F just around the corner from the Pudong Best Western Hotel on Zheqiao Road.

Clean facility, tub and shower in room. SYT (no name# sorry, but only spinner in the house). Time. 1500, massage good, on the flip wants RMB300 for HJ, I declined, she claimed no FS and persisted (later dropping to RMB200) , so I flipped back over and had her continue the massage. With about 40 mins remaining she motions for me to take a shower, I'm like, WTF? A little early aren't we? She leaves and I shower. She returns a few minutes later and motions for me to get back on the table (mama san probably reminded her I wanted a 90min (RMB298) session). She begins to walk on my back and stretch me every which a way, so I said what the hell, ok I'll settle for HJ. I get her panties down and she's straddling me facing my cock and my face inches from paradise. I take a lick and she says no, no, but as she's jacking me, she gradually lowers her pussy more and more until it's dinner time! I lick and suck her sweet pussy and rim her tight little brown flower until I can taste her pussy juice get thicker and taste stronger so I figure she came. Job done there! I keep sucking her honey and feel up her tits (not much there) until I blow. Then she cleans me up and washes her pussy as I shower. Then comes the hug me tightly / block the door while begging for more money routine (this has happened to me several times lately). I hold fast and told her if she fucks me more money is no problem. Guess we'll see next time.

5) Massage place near corner of Tai'erzhuang and Yanggao Middle Road (only MP in the immediate area).

Looks like a legit place (staff wear long pants uniforms and flat shoes) , but wanted to try anyway. Time 2100. Chose the 268/90min option, I believe it's the only body massage option. Girl had no name# tag, but was the youngest in the place (there were also male staff, so I was happy I got a girl!). She began with the hot towel treatment so I'm thinking extras probably won't be (and weren't) on the menu. Massage was incredible, alternating between torture and relief. The closest I've ever been to an S&M session. Utilized the full 90mins, never had any incidental sexual contact. I wanted to tip her, but he left so quickly I didn't have a chance to get to my pants to get my money.

[QUOTE=Kzam;1454241]Great Report. Looking forward to visiting Manhattan when I am there in 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like he fell in love. Brothers beware! The little man-eaters will chew you up and spit you out. Heh.

[QUOTE=Huckleberryfinn;1455638]Sounds to me like he fell in love. Brothers beware! The little man-eaters will chew you up and spit you out. Heh.[/QUOTE]Well, not at all bro. I'm not new to mongering and that was one of the best experiences I have had. Thats about it. And no more emotions. And I had three more sessions with different persons after that. I know what I paid for. And its just cherry on top, if things go well.

Its been a great report, thanks.

I wonder if I can have a chance to meet Minh?

Since you do not have PM how can you get me her contacts? Its not good to share that publicly!

Best of course if you bite the bullet and sacrifice 19, 99 $ to ISG. Its worth every dime!

May be we can meet some place?

I will be in Shanghai August 10-14.

Regards, Gregory.

[QUOTE=Hind31;1456008]Well, not at all bro. I'm not new to mongering and that was one of the best experiences I have had. Thats about it. And no more emotions. And I had three more sessions with different persons after that. I know what I paid for. And its just cherry on top, if things go well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1456337]Its been a great report, thanks.

I wonder if I can have a chance to meet Minh?

Since you do not have PM how can you get me her contacts? Its not good to share that publicly!

Best of course if you bite the bullet and sacrifice 19, 99 $ to ISG. Its worth every dime!

May be we can meet some place?

I will be in Shanghai August 10-14.

Regards, Gregory.[/QUOTE]Sorry Bro,

I didn't get her digits.

Thanks anyway,

Last time I had been at Manhattan I had a similar very cute VIET lady and many repeats during several trips. But if you.

Will not stay or come back. I always pass on via PM- if asked. Any good experience.

Of course chemistry may be different. Take care and enjoy life.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1456739]Sorry Bro,

I didn't get her digits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1456949]Thanks anyway,

Last time I had been at Manhattan I had a similar very cute VIET lady and many repeats during several trips. But if you.

Will not stay or come back. I always pass on via PM- if asked. Any good experience.

Of course chemistry may be different. Take care and enjoy life.

Gregory.[/QUOTE]Hi Greg,

I wanted to send you a PM but your inbox is full.

Please share this and any other contacts that you have via pm.

Thanks,

Kaz

Hi guys,

In two weeks I'm going to Shanghai, It's my first time in this city but I was in China many times before.

Somebody can tell me, best places for having sex. I mean clubs or girls, or sauna? Adress, names. I'm not looking for karaoke and shits like that. I appreciate all information.

Kind regards

Guys-I just found a new gem in sh. Will follow up with pics. Quick report another Beverly jones for 2M all night. Does everything-I mean EVERYTHING! PM for name and number. She wants to build a clientle. Chinese gem. Owned a sex shop, so she has all the toys and ointments. 30 yo but good body and looks

Gregory-clear your pm box.

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1456949]Thanks anyway,

Last time I had been at Manhattan I had a similar very cute VIET lady and many repeats during several trips. But if you.

Will not stay or come back. I always pass on via PM- if asked. Any good experience.

Of course chemistry may be different. Take care and enjoy life.

Gregory.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Locog; 1457031]Hi guys,

In two weeks I'm going to shanghai, It's my first time in this city but I was in China many times before.

Somebody can tell me, best places for having sex.[/QUOTE]It's all here, on this forum, so stop asking questions and start to do your readings.

Lev

What are the Chinese words when asking for a special massage with HE and some touching? Asking for press massage has lead to some serious dead ends.

Thanks for warning me.

Just arrived in Shanghai, wow its hot.

Hi to all of you in Shanghai, whats going (haha)

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1457114]Gregory-clear your pm box.[/QUOTE]

I got three pms.

From a guy who has posted twice, once in 2008 and once in 2012-must cops.

One from a guy who's handle tells me his nationality. He sent copy of my post to the girl. She okay with it, as no name or contact info given public.

And one from a real guy.

So moral here is read inbetween the lines. Jackson is right. Be careful with information.

And to W-G- this forum is to inform fellow members. Not be a RAT.

AND TO MY FREIND who I gave contact info to. Be good to her. She is sweet girl.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1457113]Guys-I just found a new gem in sh. Will follow up with pics. Quick report another Beverly jones for 2M all night. Does everything-I mean EVERYTHING! PM for name and number. She wants to build a clientle. Chinese gem. Owned a sex shop, so she has all the toys and ointments. 30 yo but good body and looks[/QUOTE]

Perfect, thanks Marty.

And thats why 19, 95$ is the best investment (Jackson. Whoever he is- will like it, but he does a good job)

PM is a must! But be cautious there too, use your natural brain.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Marty47; 1457477]I got three pms.

From a guy who has posted twice, once in 2008 and once in 2012-must cops.

One from a guy who's handle tells me his nationality. He sent copy of my post to the girl. She okay with it, as no name or contact info given public.

And one from a real guy.

So moral here is read inbetween the lines. Jackson is right. Be careful with information.

And to W-G- this forum is to inform fellow members. Not be a RAT.

AND TO MY FREIND who I gave contact info to. Be good to her. She is sweet girl.[/QUOTE]

Look, you don't got to speak any Chinese. On entering pick a girl. Take her arm and she will lead you to where ever. If the room has a shower, shower. By yourself. Later visits she may shower with you, scrub your ass, play with your balls, stroke your dick. On the first visit, lets say you go to a bare bones outfit, lay down, face down, she'll pull the curtain. She will start rubbing your back, legs, maybe ass. If she rubs your legs / ass raise your ass as she gets close. Reach around find her leg. Squeeze it. If she moves away, wait try again. If she leaves your hand on her leg reach for her ass. She may enourage you by massaging your ass and pushing her hand between your legs. You will turn over. Keep your hand (s) on her legs. She'll start rubbing your chest. If your dick isn't hard by now your game is NFG. She'll rub your dick through your pants, open your shirt and tease your nipples (doesn't do damn for me. But hey, they all do it). One of you will open your fly, release the joy stick and away you go. There is no need to know any Chinese. If you want a blow job, point to her mouth. If you want to fuck her, point to her crotch. Keep smiling. If you went there to have a conversation, you went for the wrong reason. It's a game. Play it.

[QUOTE=Lampy111;1457211]What are the Chinese words when asking for a special massage with HE and some touching? Asking for press massage has lead to some serious dead ends.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lampy111;1457211]What are the Chinese words when asking for a special massage with HE and some touching? Asking for press massage has lead to some serious dead ends.[/QUOTE]Some veggie massage places doesn't offer special massage, so it's embarrassed when asking HE in these 'pure green' massage places.

Just a reminder guys, tomorrow evening is the eve of Chinese Valentines day, or Qixi festival.

Fz

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1458124]Just a reminder guys, tomorrow evening is the eve of Chinese Valentines day, or Qixi festival.

Fz[/QUOTE]Party for single.

[url]http://www.fcclub.com/index.php?app=home&mod=public&act=eventoutDetail&id=70[/url]

I didn't see any replies, so I'll reopen the inquiry. Did anyone confirm it?

Huck.

[QUOTE=Trawlerman; 1439161]Can anyone confirm the location for this place? I have 389 Zhaojiabang Road. Also interested in any experiences, if course. I couldn't find anything on this forum. Much obliged. PM ok.

TM[/QUOTE]

Marty has not exaggerated I can only second him. After he got me all infos I did meet the Gem, wow!

I had forgotten to mention she speaks perfectly English, too. Any info's just PM me or Marty (although he already did the work, so now its on me to help out, haha)

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1457113]Guys-I just found a new gem in sh. Will follow up with pics. Quick report another Beverly jones for 2M all night. Does everything-I mean EVERYTHING! PM for name and number. She wants to build a clientle. Chinese gem. Owned a sex shop, so she has all the toys and ointments. 30 yo but good body and looks[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone,

So, I'm in Shanghai now, staying at a Days Inn hotel in Tian Shan Xi Lu, around my hotel I see many massage places with Japanese writing, I think they may provide especial services, but I don't want to lose my time and money and see they are legit.

Does anybody knows if they offer special services? And can anybody recommend one if they do?

Another question, where is Manhattan?

I think meanwhile I'll head to the Shanghai hotel for the famous helicopter, it's expensive but at least is a sure thing.

Visited Bodi this afternoon, got there around 2:30PM.

Strangely, I was given a robe to change into directly in the locker area, skipping the entire ordeal of shower / steam / jacuzzi / backrub.

I didn't have a lot of time anyway, so while I was a bit surprised but I did not object to the arrangement.

After changing I was led directly into the waiting area, and before my beverage showed up, the papasan came in and said the girls are ready.

I was being led to the selection area in a stream of 5 patrons and each of us had to hurriedly pick in a lineup of approximately 10 girls, none exactly total stunners IMHO. I ended up picking 505, slender build, and her magic bra made her knockers at least two sizes larger visually than what they really are, but they are very soft to the touch.

On the way up, we exchanged some jokes about Chinese Valentines Day, then I asked her to pick a partner.

She then proceeded to call her friend. 675, whom I am pretty sure was not in the lineup presented to me. (I guess it is pretty obvious there are some girls being reserved).675 has much better appeal in my taste, and I probably would have instantly picked her if she was in the lineup.

In side the room they were talking about business and I asked them about the lineup, then they told me they have a shortage of girls today because every girl with a boyfriend is off duty today.

Usual nuru bath, cat bath, then full service. Nice attitude and cooperation among the two generally.

Service clock runs out at 45 minutes, headed back to lounge area requested ear picking service, ended up waiting 20 minutes for an ear-picker to become available. 15 minute ear cleaning service + 15 minute head and scalp massage = 198 RMB extra.

I would have stayed longer for the usual prostate massage extra, but I was pressed for time.

Left the club around 4:15, saw a wave of customers coming into the club as I left.

Total damage: 15XX RMB in slightly less than two hours.

[QUOTE=Suronin; 1458429]Hi everyone,

I think meanwhile I'll head to the Shanghai hotel for the famous helicopter, it's expensive but at least is a sure thing.[/QUOTE]Let us know about Shangai hotel red rope as it seems it had been dieintinued in recent times.

Clear your inbox if you want GEM info

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1458695]Let us know about Shangai hotel red rope as it seems it had been dieintinued in recent times.[/QUOTE]Red rope definitely not available at Shanghai Hotel nowadays. Quality there is OK. Not stunning but OK. But no red rope sadly

GUYs don't want to give report. She is too nice. Pics speak for themselves. You won't be disappointed. She will be joining ISG watch for her "Beauty"

Never a "no" answer, do want you want, not mechanical, after over ten years of SH experiences this one is the best!"read inbetween lines" NO LIMITS

[QUOTE=Suronin; 1458429]Hi everyone,

So, I'm in Shanghai now, staying at a Days Inn hotel in Tian Shan Xi Lu, around my hotel I see many massage places with Japanese writing, I think they may provide especial services, but I don't want to lose my time and money and see they are legit.

Does anybody knows if they offer special services? And can anybody recommend one if they do?

Another question, where is Manhattan?

I think meanwhile I'll head to the Shanghai hotel for the famous helicopter, it's expensive but at least is a sure thing.[/QUOTE]Do you mean 7 Day Inn in Tian Shan Lu?

If you want to try famous red rope service, check Fei Tian Sauna Club.

Guys, I have contributed over the years and given some good suggestion on where to punt. I have a question. I am going back to Shanghai and always stay at the Hilton. In the alley is royal massage, a place with about 3 girls usually. The quality goes up and down. They have only two items on the menu. A HJ and a CBJ. There is no tipping and touching is included in the price. If you play really dumb about the massage and pretend not to speak mandarin, she will pull out a sign that states what you get and NO TIPPING!

It is a little pricey (358 and 458) If I remember but how many times have you ended up spending that much for the massage, the touch tip and HJ anyway?

Anyway, here ias my question. If you keep heading down the alley, there is what looks like a bar, mei guo something something. You are almost out of the alley when you leave it.

I thought it was a high end girl bar as it is quite nice and the girls are dressed in evening gowns. I have not gone in and did not know if anyone else did. I find these girl bars a ripoff but did not know if this is one?

If no one knows, I will take one for the team next month. I have always forgotten to ask and thought one of my bros here would know.

Sam

It was not fun. One of the scariest experiences of my life.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1454822]Shanghai probes sex claims against officials.

Updated: 2013-08-05 01:30.

By Wang Zhenghua in Shanghai (China Daily)

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Video shows court employees consorting with alleged prostitutes.

Shanghai's top court suspended four judicial officials on Sunday amid allegations from an anonymous blogger that they patronized prostitutes.

The scandal came to light on Friday after the anonymous blogger, identified by two newspapers under the surname Ni, posted a video of a group of court officials arm-in-arm with female karaoke partners at a resort hotel on June 9. The blogger claimed five court officials later paid for prostitutes, though the Shanghai Disciplinary Commission said it is investigating four officials...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1459433]Guys, I have contributed over the years and given some good suggestion on where to punt. I have a question. I am going back to Shanghai and always stay at the Hilton. In the alley is royal massage, a place with about 3 girls usually. The quality goes up and down. They have only two items on the menu. A HJ and a CBJ. There is no tipping and touching is included in the price. If you play really dumb about the massage and pretend not to speak mandarin, she will pull out a sign that states what you get and NO TIPPING!

It is a little pricey (358 and 458) If I remember but how many times have you ended up spending that much for the massage, the touch tip and HJ anyway?

Anyway, here ias my question. If you keep heading down the alley, there is what looks like a bar, mei guo something something. You are almost out of the alley when you leave it.

I thought it was a high end girl bar as it is quite nice and the girls are dressed in evening gowns. I have not gone in and did not know if anyone else did. I find these girl bars a ripoff but did not know if this is one?

If no one knows, I will take one for the team next month. I have always forgotten to ask and thought one of my bros here would know.

Sam[/QUOTE]The Shanghai Hotel Sauna is not far away, but I guess you know that.

#25, Tingting, cute little thing from the North.

Lev

Hi all,

Question, is anyone familiar with following hotels, and is there any problem bringing back a "friend" from Manhattan or similar place?

Holiday inn, Pudong.

Haiyatt Hotel (not hyatt).

Xuhui

[QUOTE=Heuristic;1459450]It was not fun. One of the scariest experiences of my life.[/QUOTE]What happened?

No problems at holiday inn. There are even friends you can meet in the Irish pub attached to the hotel.

[QUOTE=Jake64; 1459966]Hi all,

Question, is anyone familiar with following hotels, and is there any problem bringing back a "friend" from Manhattan or similar place?

Holiday inn, Pudong.

Haiyatt Hotel (not hyatt).

Xuhui[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marty47; 1459140]GUYs don't want to give report. She is too nice. Pics speak for themselves. You won't be disappointed. She will be joining ISG watch for her "Beauty"

Never a "no" answer, do want you want, not mechanical, after over ten years of SH experiences this one is the best!"read inbetween lines" NO LIMITS[/QUOTE]Would you share any details or PM me?

Thanks!

Hi Sam,

I'm not sure if this is helpful but you are talking about the bar closer to Wulumuqi road (ie, walking away from Hilton past royal massage)? I have been there a few times but it was with a group of people. From what I can tell it is not a normal girl bar (like the ones across the street from the Hilton). I have not seen girls dressed in evening gowns; but of the 4-5 times I went, at least 3 times there was another table / party with very well dressed girls who were pre-partying. Of course our groups merged and proceeded onwards. But they are not "working girls".

I have never been there alone, so I do not know further.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1459433]Guys, I have contributed over the years and given some good suggestion on where to punt. I have a question. I am going back to Shanghai and always stay at the Hilton. In the alley is royal massage, a place with about 3 girls usually. The quality goes up and down. They have only two items on the menu. A HJ and a CBJ. There is no tipping and touching is included in the price. If you play really dumb about the massage and pretend not to speak mandarin, she will pull out a sign that states what you get and NO TIPPING!

It is a little pricey (358 and 458) If I remember but how many times have you ended up spending that much for the massage, the touch tip and HJ anyway?

Anyway, here ias my question. If you keep heading down the alley, there is what looks like a bar, mei guo something something. You are almost out of the alley when you leave it.

I thought it was a high end girl bar as it is quite nice and the girls are dressed in evening gowns. I have not gone in and did not know if anyone else did. I find these girl bars a ripoff but did not know if this is one?

If no one knows, I will take one for the team next month. I have always forgotten to ask and thought one of my bros here would know.

Sam[/QUOTE]

A lot of extensive research before my trip to Shanghai recently led me to shortlist this place. It's in the lane behind the Hilton. And what a find!

I went there on a weekday, just after 5pm. Choice was limited to a fishbowl of only 5 girls. Picked up #33, Xiamei I think her name was. She is quite hot, probably late 20s, early 30s but an amazing rack and an awesome GFE.

Make sure you don't buy any extras on your way to the fishbowl (there is a guy who will provide some massage service after you shower, which will be charged 70 RMB, later).

Paid 700 RMB for an hour and it was amazing.

Everything goes, except for anal. Started off with me doing 15 mins of DATY, Rimming and fingering her pussy and ass. Once I got her all excited, she ravished me for the next 10 odd mins doing a BBBJ, rimming and cat bath. We then did 20 mins of sex in multiple positions starting with doggy, missionary, cow girl etc. Until I climaxed. She also climaxed a couple of times.

She arranged for a couple of free beers and exchanged numbers. We also spend another 15 odd mins lying naked and talking.

Amazing stuff, will definitely visit again.

I have to support Marty and Gregory in recommending the new rising star Wendy. She is simply the best one can get if looking for real GFE with a lady really enjoying herself too. Prices are not low end but reasonable (3h 1500- overnight 2000-) and one thing is for sure, you will get what you are looking for. So really worth paying bit more than Manhattan etc. Except you are more in try and error.

Return factor: 100%.

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1459491]The Shanghai Hotel Sauna is not far away, but I guess you know that.

#25, Tingting, cute little thing from the North.

Lev[/QUOTE]Or #33, Xiamei.

Hi to all,

For whose like BBS (even just for the price.) in all Anyuan road there are several ones active.

In particular, if you come from Change road, when you arrive to Anyuan road, you can find them just turning left, on the right side and also turning right and going along Anyuan road, crossing the next street, checking on the left.

I've tried only FS. Damage is 300RMB.

Starting from Anyuan road and goind to the south along Shanxii road, I think you can find 2-3 on the left side, near Kangping and Xinzha roads.

Does anyone know some one else in the area (not Pudong)?

Hi there,

There are a lot of BBSes all around Shanghai. Where do you live in Shanghai? There are tons in Hongqiao, some in Changning, and quite a bit in hongkou (but I'm less familiar there). And of course the area you mentioned has quite a bit. There are a few also on Changping Lu, Changshou Lu, and Kangding Lu, all within 10 minutes of Shanxibei lu.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1461988]Hi to all,

For whose like BBS (even just for the price.) in all Anyuan road there are several ones active.

In particular, if you come from Change road, when you arrive to Anyuan road, you can find them just turning left, on the right side and also turning right and going along Anyuan road, crossing the next street, checking on the left.

I've tried only FS. Damage is 300RMB.

Starting from Anyuan road and goind to the south along Shanxii road, I think you can find 2-3 on the left side, near Kangping and Xinzha roads.

Does anyone know some one else in the area (not Pudong)?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1459433]Guys, I have contributed over the years and given some good suggestion on where to punt. I have a question. I am going back to Shanghai and always stay at the Hilton. In the alley is royal massage, a place with about 3 girls usually. The quality goes up and down. They have only two items on the menu. A HJ and a CBJ. There is no tipping and touching is included in the price. If you play really dumb about the massage and pretend not to speak mandarin, she will pull out a sign that states what you get and NO TIPPING!

It is a little pricey (358 and 458) If I remember but how many times have you ended up spending that much for the massage, the touch tip and HJ anyway?

Sam[/QUOTE]I passed the royal massage some days ago and remembering the post and gave it a try. They got a sign outside which claims that the place is newly opened and promised 30% discount. Inside they got only 1 item one list for 350 RMB including the discount already. And a big reamrk: no tip. My hope was that this had been the CBJ version for a better price now. But it was the HJ option. But at least halfway through of the back massage the girl striped to the panties and used full body for the remaining duration. Touching at all places possible. But as said no CBJ. Overall standard quality, girl's look 6.8, but the place still looks a bit under construction. Might try again in 3.4 weeks.

[QUOTE=BhargavRohit80; 1460903]Everything goes, except for anal. Started off with me doing 15 mins of DATY, Rimming and fingering her pussy and ass. Once I got her all excited, she ravished me for the next 10 odd mins doing a BBBJ, rimming and cat bath. We then did 20 mins of sex in multiple positions starting with doggy, missionary, cow girl etc. Until I climaxed. She also climaxed a couple of times.

Amazing stuff, will definitely visit again.[/QUOTE]Why do I have the feeling to be a looser? Or am I just normal. Reading regularly in this forum you get the feeling everyone is some kind of sex god.

You go to a saune and within 20 minutes you get the girl to climax (what a word) couple of times.

Congratulation.

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia; 1462521]Why do I have the feeling to be a looser? Or am I just normal. Reading regularly in this forum you get the feeling everyone is some kind of sex god.

You go to a saune and within 20 minutes you get the girl to climax (what a word) couple of times. Congratulation.[/QUOTE]I have never known if I have made anyone (pickups) climaxed. Only one who really told me was my ex-gf and it was after lots and lots of foreplay and tiring self-control.

Man, the rest of the moans I have heard must all be fake. You are not alone dude. You are in the 99.99.

[QUOTE=Gaist Asia;1462516]I passed the royal massage some days ago and remembering the post and gave it a try. They got a sign outside which claims that the place is newly opened and promised 30% discount. Inside they got only 1 item one list for 350 RMB including the discount already. And a big reamrk: no tip. My hope was that this had been the CBJ version for a better price now. But it was the HJ option. But at least halfway through of the back massage the girl striped to the panties and used full body for the remaining duration. Touching at all places possible. But as said no CBJ. Overall standard quality, girl's look 6.8, but the place still looks a bit under construction. Might try again in 3.4 weeks.[/QUOTE]I will be back next month, good to know. Plan on checking this and other places out!

In my experience (maybe 200-300 women, but who's counting?) , it depends much more on the woman than the man. Working girls are not emotionally engaged and there's no mystery for them. And most don't actually want to be doing what they are doing. But occasionally you get a woman who just loves sex. Or is very orgasmic. And when it's both, heaven on earth. But it is possible to help a woman who is not all that interested in an orgasm, or has difficulty (and who wouldn't if they're working in a sauna, seeing a few guys a day, every day.) I find that most women will come if you happen to be good at using your tongue. But it takes patience. And as far as knowing when a woman is really cumming, it is usually obvious when there is a lot of uncontrolled spasms. A lot more wetness, etc. I had a gf for a while in BJ and she had a lot of trouble climaxing. BUT when she did, she went insane. And screamed so loud I thought L. E. Would show up at the hotel to see if I was murdering her! LOL We're talking seriously deep, convulsive orgasms. Totally out of control. Too bad she went and fell in love with me. Oh well.

So, to relate this topic to recent events, I went for the first time to Malone's. I'm not a bar guy, generally. Got there late. 1:40 am. Still a number of working gals and one latched onto my arm before I got from the door 2 meters to the bar. Pretty nice when you can pick up a gal before you can order a beer. I wasn't feeling particularly picky and she was a good looker. A 7. Chinese from Hunan, and spoke a little English. Anyway, for 800 plus taxi, back to the hotel. Very friendly, nice GFE and no bullshit moaning. She squealed a little after a solid 10 minutes of DATY and again after another 10 minutes of mish. After having her two little O's, she was positively clingy. A real cuddle queen. Was she great in bed? Not really. Was she cute as a button and nice to sleep with? Yup. At my stage of the game, I don't always need the greatest lay on Earth each time. And at 6:00 am, she was off for home, which was fine by me. If anyone is interested, PM me for her name and number.

BTW, went to 999 the other night. Still clean, decent service. No. 11 was a lot of fun. Great smile, no rushing. One of the best soapy gals I've had. We didn't even bother with the massage, at my request. I asked her if she liked oral; her face lit up and she said "Of course!" As I wrote above, that did the trick for her. The moral here? One good way to help your gal get her jollies is to ASK! Ask her what she likes or doesn't like. Can't go wrong with that and you score points for being considerate. I always chuckle when I read about guys who want the ultimate GFE but don't give a fig about being a nice guy in return. Yeah, you're paying for it, but that's besides the point. It should be fun for both, IMHO.

Huck.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1462737]I have never known if I have made anyone (pickups) climaxed. Only one who really told me was my ex-gf and it was after lots and lots of foreplay and tiring self-control.

Man, the rest of the moans I have heard must all be fake. You are not alone dude. You are in the 99. 99.[/QUOTE]

What is the average price of a Russian chick in shanghai?

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai; 1462320]Hi there,

There are a lot of BBSes all around Shanghai. Where do you live in Shanghai? There are tons in Hongqiao, some in Changning, and quite a bit in hongkou (but I'm less familiar there). And of course the area you mentioned has quite a bit. There are a few also on Changping Lu, Changshou Lu, and Kangding Lu, all within 10 minutes of Shanxibei lu.[/QUOTE]I'll check also Changping Lu, Changshou Lu, and Kangding Lu and let you know. I live in Jing'an area.

I know there are also in Honsong lu. Hongsong / Songyuan lu (Songyuan lu stop line 10)

You go south on songyuan lu from metro station and once arrived in hongsong lu corner, U-turn right, walk a few second and on the right side on the street you should fin some nice BBS.

Others in Wuzhong lu between Songyuan lu and Gubei lu. Some cheap HJ places. Some offer FS too.

On the west side of Puxi, go check Jinhui lu / Chengjiaqiao lu.

Or I would recommend you to go check Hongzhong lu. This place is a heaven of BBS.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1463816]I'll check also Changping Lu, Changshou Lu, and Kangding Lu and let you know. I live in Jing'an area.

I know there are also in Honsong lu. Hongsong / Songyuan lu (Songyuan lu stop line 10)

You go south on songyuan lu from metro station and once arrived in hongsong lu corner, U-turn right, walk a few second and on the right side on the street you should fin some nice BBS.

Others in Wuzhong lu between Songyuan lu and Gubei lu. Some cheap HJ places. Some offer FS too.

On the west side of Puxi, go check Jinhui lu / Chengjiaqiao lu.

Or I would recommend you to go check Hongzhong lu. This place is a heaven of BBS.[/QUOTE]Hi there, Thanks for the update. I / m not that familiar with Shanghai, but normally stay at Jin Jiang Tower hotel in Changle Lu. Its about a 3-4 mins taxi ride from Manhattan.

I've never experienced the BBS scene, but would like to. I've always assumed that there aren't that many on this side of the river (mostly in Pudong area). Would really appreciate it if you could suggest some suitable places, either near me or at least in reasonable proximity.

Are those streets that you mentioned in your post on Puxi side.

Many thanks in advance.

Jackson

Hi,

Actually probably ShaanXiBeiLu is closest to you. Head over there and check out the cross streets mentioned; ChangPingLu, ChangShouLu, KanDingLu. That whole area has a bunch. People have reported on AnyuanLu and ChangdeLu, although I have never been. I have been WuZhongLu, and it's good there, check it out if you don't mind cabbing a bit further.

[QUOTE=Jj1973; 1464454]Hi there, Thanks for the update. I / m not that familiar with Shanghai, but normally stay at Jin Jiang Tower hotel in Changle Lu. Its about a 3-4 mins taxi ride from Manhattan.

I've never experienced the BBS scene, but would like to. I've always assumed that there aren't that many on this side of the river (mostly in Pudong area). Would really appreciate it if you could suggest some suitable places, either near me or at least in reasonable proximity.

Are those streets that you mentioned in your post on Puxi side.

Many thanks in advance.

Jackson[/QUOTE]

Hi there,

Thanks for all your posts. I'm not familiar at all with Shanghai but will stay at The Yangtze Boutique Shanghai at No. 740 Hankou Road (Near Yunnan Road).

I would love to have some girls for a nuru massage not far from there. If they offer BBBJ or happy ending or better full service, it would be great. Is this possible? Is it better to go at their place or invite to hotel?

Many thanks in advance.

Boss

All of you that PM me about the new gem-I hope I answered everybody-if you did not get a PM back from me.hit me up again. Been doing a lot of traveling and had a hard time answering everybody-just remember be super nice to this girl-and she will be the same to You!

[QUOTE=Boss1909; 1464566]Hi there,

Thanks for all your posts. I'm not familiar at all with Shanghai but will stay at The Yangtze Boutique Shanghai at No. 740 Hankou Road (Near Yunnan Road).

I would love to have some girls for a nuru massage not far from there. If they offer BBBJ or happy ending or better full service, it would be great. Is this possible? Is it better to go at their place or invite to hotel?

Many thanks in advance.

Boss[/QUOTE]Hi Boss1909,

The Yangtze Boutique Shanghai is near to The Peoples Square, If you want to try nuru massage, my recommandation is Wugong Hotel Sauna Club (Lidu SPA).

It's walking distance to Lidu spa from your hotel.

Hi guys,

I will stay in three nights at Howard Jhonsson Plaza (595 jiu jiang road) and two nights at Sheraton Shanghai Hongkou. Could somebody suggest me close places for nuru massage or happy ending massage?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards

[QUOTE=Locog; 1464920]Hi guys.

I will stay in three nights at Howard Jhonsson Plaza (595 jiu jiang road) and two nights at Sheraton Shanghai Hongkou. Could somebody suggest me close places for nuru massage or happy ending massage?

Thank you in advance.

Best regards[/QUOTE]The only place that comes to mind in the Hongkou District is Hawaii Sauna.

They do nuru massage for around 700 RMB. The quality of the girls and service is toward the lower end of the spectrum though.

721 Quyang Road. Right across from Quyang Business Center and Electronic Market.

Or you could go to Heting Elite Spa. 777 Siping Road, right outside Siping Road Metro Station.

Heting has no wet area just a giant bed, so no nuru, but they give a decent catbath and FS.

Their price is toward the higher end, and if remember correctly, they are CASH ONLY.

I do not know about any options around Peoples' Square.

[QUOTE=Art Shanghai; 1464488]Hi,

Actually probably ShaanXiBeiLu is closest to you. Head over there and check out the cross streets mentioned; ChangPingLu, ChangShouLu, KanDingLu. That whole area has a bunch. People have reported on AnyuanLu and ChangdeLu, although I have never been. I have been WuZhongLu, and it's good there, check it out if you don't mind cabbing a bit further.[/QUOTE]At Shaanxi Bei Lu I know only three BBS. They are between Kangding Lu and Changping Lu. Quality of girls definetely not my type. And the shops are directly opposite of a well visited bar. You have to accept the 'walk of shame' in this business but there are limits. If you are not fixed to FS, I would recommend the Buddha Massage at the corner of Shaanxi Bei Lu and Changping Lu. For 300 RMB you get a good massage and BBBJ. Environment is clean and good.

Have fun!

I have been RTFF but have only seen the Holiday Inn Pudong listed as GF.

Where else will I avoid having a problem?

Thanks

Purple Mountain, Courtyard Marriott, intercontinental all in Pudong

For convenience, JC Mandarin in Puxi. Easy Walking distance from Manhattan or Judy's.

[QUOTE=Britman2; 1465516]I have been RTFF but have only seen the Holiday Inn Pudong listed as gf. Where else will I avoid having a problem?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

What are typical hours at soapys in general? Specifically one at Bodi hotel?

I believe 1pm to 1am or so.

[QUOTE=I Miss Millenium;1465695]What are typical hours at soapys in general? Specifically one at Bodi hotel?[/QUOTE]

I'm an infrequent visitor to Shanghai and I've been wanting to try the infamous Nuru massage, of which I have heard a lot, and seen plenty in streamed japanese porn clips. Went to 999, where there have been reports of Nuru, even of that other japanese export cosplay, but was disappointed to get the standard soapy fare. Not that I'm against soapies in general. I just wanted something different.

To add to the disappointment, this soapy was way below standard. I chose number 883 on the second showing of 8-10 girls, and realised too late that I was unduly influenced by the very short denim shorts she was wearing. Always a sucker for those. Anyway, I asked for "shui mo" having picked up somewhere on the forum that this is the word for Nuru. Of course, as soon as I said it, I realised how ambiguous the expression is. The girl assured me that she was going to give me shui mo, as she was filling a bowl with suds. Having no idea of how to say "gel" I fumbled about explaining that it wasn't soap and was tasteless and came from Japan."Oh, do you prefer Japanese girls?" she says. I give up and endured a particularly lame attempt at a soapy followed by the sort of "oh it's too big" and "hurry up and cum" performance I would expect of a 150 rmb BBS quickie rather than a trained 880 rmb sauna girl. Really not impressed.

I think I might head back to Heting, which used to be my Shanghai stopover regular. No "wet massage" there, but I have had excellent service every time.

TM

China Daily dot com Pictures. RE: Are they real?

Thanks,

Jim

[QUOTE=Trawlerman; 1466141]I think I might head back to Heting, which used to be my Shanghai stopover regular. No "wet massage" there, but I have had excellent service every time.

TM[/QUOTE]Interesting. , TM, does Heting still have a bath, massage and HJ? Or is it all just spa action? I read before you could get just that for round 339 rmb.

I am heading back to SH shortly and if so, would like to try it out.

Sam

[QUOTE=Travelerl49;1466200]China Daily dot com Pictures. RE: Are they real?[/QUOTE]Yes, of course the pictures are real pictures.

But, are they of the girl who will show up on your doorstep? Not a chance.

Hello, quick questions mates!

Is Bodi or the other recommended saunas in Pudong tourist friend? I am clearly not of Asian decent and so don't want to get into any trouble. I don't speak Chinese either. But will I be okay if I show up at Bodi with money to spends! Ha.

Also, I have RTFF, but can anyone give me an updated price? Last I heard was 1500 for 2 hours. Seems high, no?

Thanks to all.

[QUOTE=United1; 1466444]Hello, quick questions mates!

Is Bodi or the other recommended saunas in Pudong tourist friend? I am clearly not of Asian decent and so don't want to get into any trouble. I don't speak Chinese either. But will I be okay if I show up at Bodi with money to spends! Ha.

Also, I have RTFF, but can anyone give me an updated price? Last I heard was 1500 for 2 hours. Seems high, no?

Thanks to all.[/QUOTE]Yes, Bodi and the other high-end saunas / spas discussed here are tourist-friendly, and you don't need to speak Chinese.

These spas usually have a variety of prices based on how long your session is and whether you choose one or two girls. I'm sure you can have a good 75-to-90 minute session with an attractive lady for a lot less than 1, 500.

I paid 880 RMB last year for a great 90-minute session at Hailang Sauna:

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[QUOTE=SamCan; 1466294]Interesting. , TM, does Heting still have a bath, massage and HJ? Or is it all just spa action? I read before you could get just that for round 339 rmb.

I am heading back to SH shortly and if so, would like to try it out.

Sam[/QUOTE]Yes, Heting has bath, massage and HJ. But it's not a good price for the service.

Maybe you can try Jin Tai Sauna, the sauna has some theme rooms like "classroom", "clinic" and you can do some cosplay in the rooms.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1466294]Interesting. , TM, does Heting still have a bath, massage and HJ? Or is it all just spa action? I read before you could get just that for round 339 rmb.

I am heading back to SH shortly and if so, would like to try it out.

Sam[/QUOTE]I've only tried the standard spa action. What I like about this place is that the service is (or was) consistently high, so I could choose the girl I most fancied without worrying that she would disappoint in service. Must have been there half a dozen times over the years. Of course, I might just have been lucky and I haven't been there for a year or more.

TM

Will be back in Pudong next week, what are the latest places for BBBJ? Anyone looking for a wingman or drinkng buddy for bars / clubs?

[QUOTE=Britman2; 1465516]I have been RTFF but have only seen the Holiday Inn Pudong listed as GF.

Where else will I avoid having a problem?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Try the "East China. Shanghai Hotels " thread, I only ever heard of one girl unfriendly hotel in Shanghai, but that was six or seven years back. (Hilton)

Fz

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1467129]Try the "East China. Shanghai Hotels " thread, I only ever heard of one girl unfriendly hotel in Shanghai, but that was six or seven years back. (Hilton)

Fz[/QUOTE]I stay at the HIlton all the time, (in Jin an). Get in before 10pm, no problem. After 10pm, they want to copy her I'd in the file and have you sign her in. My Chinese girlfriend came so often that they did not call the room to haveme sign her in. They just signed her in and sent her on her way.

She had a 20% chance of having to sign in (when she got to the hotel at 230 am).80% of the time, if she walked through like she knew where she was going and was dressed nice, they never bothered her.

I have walked in with a girl from Manhattans and they nab me immediately to have her sign in. I am not sure the sign in is a big deal. I have been doing it for years without an issue.

I found the Sheraton in Hongqiao even easier. My girl would come in and they would open the elevator for her. LOL.

Sam

Long time ago someone posted here a review about a massage joint in Minhang, I know is far as hell by the review was so nice they I tried. Result: amazing. Great girl 8-9, and service. The guy mentioned the place is run by Zhejiang boss which are somehow better. I don't know about that, but that experience definitely deserved a second time.

It was long after, it's far anyway, so, I go there and the girl, this time a 8, ask me if I want normal massage or, surprise, Nuru. For 288 of course I took it. Great job from her side, and finished off with a BBBJ after tipping 100.

Definitely will go again. Don't remember the girls numbers, but place is on Cao Bao road with Longming. Golden decoration I think.

This GEM is great. She came in with a big kiss and grabbed my crotch and said this will be good. Speaks excellent English. The sex was great, she does not hold back at all. Love to give BBBJCIM and all over her. If any of you get a chance to be with you will be back for a second row, guaranteed.

PM me if you want contact information.

So after 9 months of off and on chatting, she finally agreed to come to my place instead of insisting on hers. Still more money than I would normally spend and she speaks zero English. All of that said, she is a great service provider (except for a little too concerned with the wet wipes even directly out of the shower). First we had a very nice shower together during which she washed be from scalp to toe. She wanted to start with the hot / cold water cat bath but that is boring for me so we skipped that. She has an amazing body. Very nice size natural breats not Double Ds but quite large for an Asian girl on her fantastic petite frame. Very narrow waist with a great ass below and nice breasts above. Two pops over a period of about 3 hours in the afternoon, I had to end things since I a dinner meeting. If her service is as good with others as it was with me then I can highly recommend her if you can find her on QQ under the user name "911m m". Still more than I like to pay for this service but the service was great.

[QUOTE=Golly Woggle; 1376220]I'm not clear on the rules for posting QQ numbers, so I'll play it safe and leave it to a PM for those that want. If I'm allowed, let me know and I'll edit this post.

For now I'll just say her name is 911mm. Ya, I know, WTF? Trust me, this girl is awesome. You should be able to find her on QQ with that name.

I met up today with a girl I had the luck to find in one of the sauna's a while back. I have been lucky to meet a few sauna girls outside of work and she is definitely one of the best. I can't say if she still works at a sauna since I haven't seen her at one in while. Regardless, she seems now to prefer meeting guys through QQ and she specifically asked me to spread the word on ISG. When I last met her two years ago she had asked something similar, but this time around she wanted all you guys to know. If you're lucky to have her let you met her, some of you may recognize who she is.

She's f'ing hot. 5 foot nothing. Double Ds on a slim and smooth flawless body. Great ass. Long black hair. A really sweet face.

She's a really sweet girl too. She comes across a little quiet but don't let that fool you.

Service is great. She goes through the sauna play list but. At least this time around. With a nice BBBJ twist. She started with the BBBJ and would continue to intermix it with various stages of the sauna massage stuff. It felt like she had her lips wrapped around my friend for half the time I was there. I'm sure it wasn't that long but it was. Great! Surprisingly she hadn't depleted me before the main event. Rocking that hot body is a sight to be seen. Uh, seeing her body. Not mine.

Location: Pudong. She'll do the typical QQ thing with you to get you to her place once she's vetted you online.

Price: you'll have to discuss that with her. Oddly enough, I've never talked $ with her. I always just handed her a "tip" at the end of our "meeting". And she's never complained. She specifically told me not to mention a price, so I'm sure we will make it clear with you on QQ.

Pix: I have but she asked me not to post and have you get all that on QQ. She has a ton of "glamour" shots that she started to do a couple of years ago. All very amazing. And yes all her. Just all glam'd up. My personal feeling is that she really didn't need to do those kind of shots. She's naturally hot and IMHO doesn't need any "photographic help".

One thing which is typical of most QQ girls, you should be comfortable with at least a bit of Mandarin. And have a decent translator on your phone. She speaks zero english. Zero. But, my Mandarin kind of sucks and I've still managed to communicate with her. We just whip out our phones every now and then.

Enjoy[/QUOTE]

Quick friendly advice: Please stop paying 300! It should be 200. Don't let them give you any excuses.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1461988]Hi to all,

For whose like BBS (even just for the price.) in all Anyuan road there are several ones active.

In particular, if you come from Change road, when you arrive to Anyuan road, you can find them just turning left, on the right side and also turning right and going along Anyuan road, crossing the next street, checking on the left.

I've tried only FS. Damage is 300RMB.

Starting from Anyuan road and goind to the south along Shanxii road, I think you can find 2-3 on the left side, near Kangping and Xinzha roads.

Does anyone know some one else in the area (not Pudong)?[/QUOTE]

Here is a photo of her for your reference.

Hello Dudes, Fellas and BoB.

Long time I didn t wrote so. Little photos of a gem that I meet already since 2 years, but every time fresh and. Yummy!

[QUOTE=Mgp23; 1468371]Long time ago someone posted here a review about a massage joint in Minhang, I know is far as hell by the review was so nice they I tried. Result: amazing. Great girl 8-9, and service. The guy mentioned the place is run by Zhejiang boss which are somehow better. I don't know about that, but that experience definitely deserved a second time.

It was long after, it's far anyway, so, I go there and the girl, this time a 8, ask me if I want normal massage or, surprise, Nuru. For 288 of course I took it. Great job from her side, and finished off with a BBBJ after tipping 100.

Definitely will go again. Don't remember the girls numbers, but place is on Cao Bao road with Longming. Golden decoration I think.[/QUOTE]It is a little difficult to find such kind of massage place at Caobao road and Longming Road as you mentioned, but I found some very popular massage shops at Caobao road and Longming road in Shanghai.

Is there a massage shop with golden decoration as you mentioned in this article?

Hi all,

Will be in SH between 11-16th September. So that's tomorrow.

Anyone fancy hooking up for a few drinks at maybe Manhattan or the likes?

PM me please.

Thanks

These are the reports for three different visits to Shanghai in the last 3 months.

Story 1 July: Wandered into Red bar in Wu Lu Mu Qi Road very near Zapata, it was a Monday and every other bar that I liked in the area was pretty much dead, Red was no exception, there was just one girl there (well actually there was another girl sleeping on a booth but I didn't see her at the time) she was quite cute and dressed

In what seemed like lingerie, got into talking with her, her english was very good and she was actually quite smart and interesting, she had a tattoo on the back of her.

Neck (which dive me crazy) and another one on one of her legs and I think her name was Jenny but I'm not sure, got a few drinks for me and her and we started to get

Closer.

First she was behind the bar, then she was sitting next to me, later she was sitting really next to me, with her legs between mine, finally we moved to a both, we got into french kissing and she started to play with my dick inside my shorts, I asked her if she wanted to take it out and she did, she seemed pleasantly surprised, she

Started jerking me off right there in the bar, I told her I really wanted to fuck her right there at the pool table but I would settle for taking her to my hotel, unfortunately she said no, and also passed on a BJ, a hand job was as good as it was going to get.

But she gave me full access to her boobs, the fact that we were right there at the bar where someone could come at any time or the girl in the next both (which now I knew was there) could wake up at any time made it more exciting, finally I came on her hand, I paid 400 for the drinks and she didn't asked me anything extra for the additional service, it was a good night.

Story 2 August: After a frustrating month working in Zhengzhou where I got nothing more than a half assed HJ I was ready for action, I managed to get a date with a gorgeous model that I had meet trough Wei Chat a while back, frankly I was very surprised she actually wanted to go out with me as she was really gorgeous and I tended to be well, kind of vulgar with the comments I would make about the pictures she posted in Wei Chat.

First date actually went great, we had a very nice dinner and she actually seemed to like me as I walked her to the cab she asked me to ride with her and take her

Home, we were sitting very close the whole time and I had my arm around her, she told me she normally didn't let people touch her like that but that she felt very

Comfortable with me and that she thought I was very funny, like a British man, I don`t know what that meant, anyway I took her home and wanted to kiss her, she

Didn't let me but smiled and told me next time.

Next day I was supposed to go to Suzhou but ended up not going so I asked her out again she was up for it, but I ended up getting really drunk with my friends during a lunch that lasted too long so I cancelled the date, not a smart move in hindsight, but the ravages of alcohol, I wanted to get some slutty girls or working girls that

Night didn't get any, just got way too wasted.

Got a date with her the next day, which was actually Chinese Valentine Day, we were supposed to have dinner together and then meet up with my friend and her friend at Cotton Club (where my friend was going to play) for a double date, dinner was very nice again, Sukiyaki and Sake, she told me that the drunker she got the more

She liked me, I take what I can get so I kept the Sake coming, after dinner she asked me to buy her pink lipstick instead of flowers I told her I would only do it if

I could kiss her, bought the lipstick, kissed her a lot, her lips tasted like cherries, yum.

Then the date started to fall apart, it was impossible to get a taxi that night, which got on both our nerves and the booze wore off, which is never good, we never made it to the cotton club and stood up both our friends, eventually another one of her friends, a looser one pregnant and with no sign of her baby daddy on V-day called her and ended up joining us, that was not good for anyone, we ended up at a KTV.

There at least I ended up making up with her and I got a feel of her amazing body under the dress, a dress that I was desperate to take off, but KTV ended up lasting

Too long, looser friend was there being annoying, since I had nothing to do I drank too much, the night which started up so nice ended up in a fight as I yelled at the

Friend, why are you here? Nobody likes you, not a good move on hindsight.

Next day she told me she was never using Wei Chat again since she would only meet bad people there, was she talking to me? At the end the fact that the date was on Valentine's Day kind of ruined the thing, she was expecting a very special date and wanted me to spend much money, I was expecting to get laid and her looser friend was alone and frustrated, also it was fucking impossible to get taxis, at the end she still took my calls and accepted my apologies, she agreed to meet next time I went to Shanghai, unfortunately the next time I went to Shanghai my phone had been stolen in Bangkok (see Thailand forum for that story) so I could not call her.

Now, I know this forum is for P4P stuff not really for normal dates specially ones without action so that story was really nor here nor there, but I really wanted to share it, but now back to the regular programming

So I had blue balls because all of this, and now I really needed some action so after the awesome Metallica concert I went the place in front of JZ Bar the one is on top of a bar, once long ago some guy who worked there took me there but it was too late and there were no girls, anyway I was under the impression that this was a

Massage place that offered FS, but turned out it was kind of KTV place that offered HJ, girl was cute, but she was stand offish and rushed, still I played with her boobs and came on her hand. 300rmb if I remember correctly.

Good release but I was still horny, wandered around some bars and eventually ended up in Zapata, found two working girls a Thai woman that seemed to old, and I

Was going to Thailand in a couple days so I passed and chubby but cute girl sitting outside, her name was Lily, my girlfriend's english name is Lily so I feel kind of.

Guilty if I fuck another Lily, this is a real problem since Lily is really hookerish name in China, so I end up swallowing my guilt I don't know how many Lily's I have

Fucked in China, but really, why are they always called Lily? So I told her she needed to change her name, she laughed and we were off to a good start, she spoke very good english so we had a nice talk but I eventually wandered off to try and find someone hotter.

I didn't found anybody hotter and eventually bumped back into chubby-cute Lily on the nearby street, I asked her where she was going? She said that she had to take a

Morning train so she was just going to hang out at the train station until morning, I told her that a better way to spend her time was to come to my hotel with me, she said I would have to give her money, I said I would give her 300rmb and no more and that there was a taxi right there and we should take it, she said all right and so

It began.

In the taxi we talked a little more, she told me she was going to Guangzhou to become an office lady, how hot is that, I got the feeling she didn't do this a lot, how super hot was that, I love amateur working girls, enough talk, I went for the kiss, she got really into it, had a nice frenching session all the way to the hotel, I was staying in.

168 Hotel in TianShanXiLu I had stayed there before but never brought a girl so I didn't know if it was girl friendly, luckily it was no one said anything.

(Note 1: I always used to stay at Eager Hotel in the same street next to Beixinjing Station, great location, good hotel, but once I brought a girl and she had no I'd and they fucking called the police on us, so not a girl friendly hotel, avoid if you plan to monger)

(Note 2: Twice I brought a girl at 168Hotel, no problem either time, but my friend who stayed there while I went to Thailand actually hooked up with a normal girl and

He said that the first time she came at night there was no problem, but the second time she came during the daytime and they came to the room and asked her to

Register since she had no ID she had to leave or they would call the police, so I think this hotel may be more safe at night when they don't really pay attention than

During the day when they may be more attentive of who comes and goes)

I got an awesome GF experience with this girl, I normally don't go for chubby girls but she and another girl later on in Suzhou went on to prove the theory that they

Really are more appreciative, she got really into it, lots of kissing which I love and she went mad when I ate her pussy and BBBJ, she ended up begging me to fuck her

Bareback, I was really tempted but I have never fucked a working girl bareback and I was not about to start I am very paranoid and I know it would have haunting me

To no end, so I resisted and next day I was really glad I did, at the end I finished up on her face, it was awesome.

She asked me to be her boyfriend, I kissed her and told her she had to leave, I guess she would still have to wait a few hours at the train station, I know its wrong but I just cannot sleep with a strange girl there, and at least she would be 300rmb richer and way happier than she was before.

Next day I was horny again so I wandered into one of the massage places in TianShanXiLu, the name of the place is Cadiya, highly recommended (unfortunately the

Next time I went to shanghai it was closed and the door bolted, so I don't know whats the deal) once I went to the room with the mama san I asked if they offered FS, they said no, I asked if they offered HJ, they still say no, but I had a good feeling about this place and if nothing else I would get a nice normal massage, I shower and

Putted on the classical disposable shorts deal.

Girl came on, really cute, she first gave me a really nice oil massage, then to my pleasant surprise she stripped to her panties with no bra, and rubbed me with her tits, it was awesome, and then the best part came when she liked me all over my back, when she started licking my earlobes I almost went mad, it was amazing, it was

So good that when she took my shorts off I was sure this was going to be a BJ, but unfortunately it wasn't just a HJ, still a very nice HJ, she let me play with her small but firm boobs all I wanted, but she wouldn't let me take off her panties or put my hand inside, she did that thing where she put me over her legs with my legs around her while she jerked me off, she used her tits for a while, but she didn't had much going on there, at the end I finished up myself rubbing the head of my cock on her

Tits and coming all over them, best HJ ever.

I think she was Number 9 and she told me her name, but I don't remember, may have been Lily as well, who knows, she gave me her phone number and Wei Chat

And I told her where I was staying and asked her if she would come to my hotel after work, she told me yes and that she got off at 2:00 am I kissed her on the cheek and she smiled, should have tried to kiss her on the mouth.

Damage was, what would you know 300rmb too, well not really it was 289, same thing, and they had another option available for 389 which included being bathed on abate tub and who knows what else, unfortunately I was only carrying 300 at the time, but is definitely something to try out next time.

That night I was too tired and next day I was leaving for Thailand so I didn't call her and as I said before when I returned to Shanghai I had no phone so I could not

Contact her anymore but with the place closed down she would have probably been open to come over.

Story 3 September: I came back to Shanghai after my trip trough Thailand and Vietnam, Thailand was pretty good (will write a report on that) but Vietnam was just so so (wrote the report already on the Ho Chi Minh section) had a nice day drinking and eating with my friend, got pretty drunk more than I should probably, actually got

Really wasted but still I was looking for action, first I wandered across Zapata found nothing, went to a girl bar nearby whose name I don't remember had a few girls

Not pretty but good attitude had a drink and bought a girl a drink, she seemed willing but she was not hot so I passed, went to Red again since I had such good luck

There last time, couple of girls and a male bartender, one girl was hot and the other so so, ended up buying drinks for both made out a bit with the hot girl (not kissing but touching her all over) I knew I would have to spend a lot of money on drinks to keep her with me and with more people there there would be no action in the bar

This time also she probably would not go to the hotel with me, so I left.

So for the first time ever I went to Manhattan, heard a barman talking about with a costumer in Camel bar (I think that is the name, the logo is camel) and got the

Address from him, wow my mind was blown, it had more Vietnamese hookers than well Vietnam and since my experience there was less than satisfactory I was still in the mood for some Viet Beauty so I was happy.

Talked with a few girls, picked up a really pretty one, really fucking pretty one of the pretties I have had lately but on the taxi ride she was kind of stand offish and

Afraid of getting car sick, I don't get this Asian girl that get car sick so fucking easily, whats the deal with that, so there was no action there, when we arrived to the

Hotel we just walked in as if nothing, my friend was there at lobby and his GF was checking in for the night, that was awkward, I just passed by but he gave a grin of

Complicity and she laughed, luckily the people at the counter said nothing.

I don't remember much of what happened next, she wasn't much into kissing and she only gave me a BJ with condom, still her body was amazing and she had great

Tattoos all over, (god I love tattooed girls) and she was tight, so fucking her felt great but I was too drunk and tired so I couldn't do it for long, so she had to finished.

Me up by hand, and I think it took some effort on her part but I finally came in a huge explosion all over her body, it was awesome.

Got her number too, but I don't know what happened to it, passed out immediately and didn't even saw her leave so when I woke up I was a little bit afraid of having

Been robbed or something, but of course everything was fine, this has actually happened to me a few times passing out right after coming with working girls and things have always been fine, which speaks greatly of these women's character.

That is all for my Shanghai adventures for now, hope to return to Manhattan as well as to try out Judy and Malone as well as too go back to Paulaner in Xinitandi which I tried a long time ago, also to go back to Cadiya.

Hopefully I will also see my model friend again and have better luck next time.

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I got my first sauna experience some days ago. Had been invited by a business partner to Hongsong near the Hilton hotel in Hongqiao. We arrived there on a weekday at about 8:30 pm. It was very crowded that we had to wait about 20 minutes before we get to the fishbowl. But the choice of girls was amazing. At least 30 to 40 girls of best looks. Choose 883 and headed for the area to wait for a room. During the waiting my friend talked me into taking a 2nd girl. Why not? I let the girl choose with the hope of having a bit of girl-on-girl action. Reading previous posts this is very rare anyways, so I thought this might be at least the best chance. I paid of a bit. But it was definitely not the interaction we all dream of. Service was overall okay. But there are few things that bothered me. The girls rushed extremely as it was the busiest time and wanted to finish as soon as possible. I left the room after 50 minutes only. But okay. More irritating is the permanent cleaning of my little bro when the girls switched during BBBJ. This has been the main mood killer. Anyways I will return again but stick to one girl only.

Rates are 980 for "60" minutes. And 500 for the 2nd girl. Rooms are very clean with wet and dry area.

Went to Bodi the other night. What a mess. Very rushed service by the support staff. Elevators are out of service. Was not allowed to hang out for drinks or food. I hope they get their act together soon.

Went by Feng Ding Yuan (the one next to the Fakes Market) tonight but it was closed. Strange. All the girls were outside (dressed in normal clothes) , and the attendants upstairs told me that they were 'remodeling' and would be re-opening soon. I wonder if something happened today? Maybe something happened right before I got there, which would explain the girls just hanging around outside.

[QUOTE=Optional;1471327]Went by Feng Ding Yuan (the one next to the Fakes Market) tonight but it was closed. Strange. All the girls were outside (dressed in normal clothes) , and the attendants upstairs told me that they were 'remodeling' and would be re-opening soon. I wonder if something happened today? Maybe something happened right before I got there, which would explain the girls just hanging around outside.[/QUOTE]I guess there is another cleaning-up campaign ongoing, happens often in September, before National Day. Things will soon be back to normal, after the holidays.

Lev

Normal for this time of year. The girl I have been fucking for 8 months locked the door, bolt on the floor, washed her pussy, wouldn't take of her bra or top, blew me, I fucked her, she has an educated pussy, massages that dick from start to finish in such a way as I exploded in a few minutes. In and out in 20 minutes. Will I go back. Count on it. Hell I don't go see her to talk anyway. I don't know Chinese and she doesn't know English. I send her sm with a time. She replies with a revised time, OK or no. Best fucking for money I've found the last year.

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1471433]I guess there is another cleaning-up campaign ongoing, happens often in September, before National Day. Things will soon be back to normal, after the holidays.

Lev[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Optional;1471327]Went by Feng Ding Yuan (the one next to the Fakes Market) tonight but it was closed. Strange. All the girls were outside (dressed in normal clothes) , and the attendants upstairs told me that they were 'remodeling' and would be re-opening soon. I wonder if something happened today? Maybe something happened right before I got there, which would explain the girls just hanging around outside.[/QUOTE]Yu Quan Club(Feng Ding Yuan) has reopened today.

Yesterday, Huimei International Club was closed by Yan Da (the cleaning-up campaign), so be carefully recently!

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1471643]- The rates are in a wide range, because in some high class KTV [B]you can spend RMB 10 000- per person[/B][/QUOTE]Which explains quite succinctly why I don't frequent KTVs!

This forum has always been nice for finding good quality info. So I think from time to time I should also add to it.

I tried a place that I saw from the outside for a while and that I finally tried out the other day.

It is on Datian Lu close to Beijing Lu, just next to a thai restaurant.

So it is the usual, get in the place, get guided to the lockers, get nude in front of the facility guy (I hate that part in China Spa) , do not forget to take your cellphones or cigarettes if you wish to in the little plastic bag, go to the shower room, put cellphone in small locker, get key for it, take shower, go back and get towel + pajamas. Get guided to an elevator and they will tell you to go to 3rd or 2nd floor. They put you in a relax room for a couple of minutes (I went there on the afternoon, so not too much queuing I guess) got offered a drink, they will ask you if you want a room for nurunuru massage or without, and then to the fishbowl, which is an open space where you stand 2 meters from the girl. Ok selection of like 6-8 girls between 5-8 for cuteness.

I had a good time with the girl, normal service not incredible but definitely not bad, but I guess it is the usual YMMV.

Cost 780. 880 depending on the room with or without water facility.

Will I come back? Yes, not because it is incredible, but because it is ok clean and that is the closet place to where I live.

Just a bit further on the street there is also a small shop selling video games, bluray and iPhones. One of the cheapest place in Shanghai and friendly people as well.

Though I have submitted many reports all over the globe, this is my first one for Shanghai.

I don't have a lot of spare time. I don't have much patience for waiting for infrequent taxis. I just want a little quick fun without making a big thing of it. While sometimes FS can be a lot of fun, it also involves a bigger investment of time and funds than a massage with HJ. I also don't have a lot of time to search the forum to find places that are near where I stayed, the Doubletree Pudong, and how to get there.

With that in mind, I thought. What will I find on the nearest side street, Lancun? After all, it goes to the subway stop, and if there is any place in a residential neighborhood to find anything, that would be it. The answer was: at least two massage parlors, and two bars that look like they are for mongering. The challenge today was that the thunderstorm left water a half a foot deep. Crossing the big street involved wading, barefoot, across, because I imagined that immersing my sneakers would render them damp and moldy by the end of the trip: the air is so humid I cannot expect them to dry. So I did like the locals did: took shoes and socks off and waded.

I simply went into the first massage parlor I found. An oil massage was quoted as 128 RMB (but somehow when I came out, it was 132 RMB). I was asked whether I wanted a man or a lady; it would not surprise me if at least an HJ is available from either, but I won't be finding out.

The place is clean and relatively nice. I was led to a small room that had a shower, and given a pair of paper shorts to wear. They were small for me, and readily tore out the crotch. I thought, these aren't going to provide much modesty.

My masseuse was thin. In the dark, I mostly was aware that she was nice and giggley, young. She asked if I wanted a hard massage and I said yes. She isn't strong, not like the Thai masseuse I found in HK (who did not provide any services) , but it was relaxing. She spent a bit over a half hour on my neck, shoulders, back, butt, legs, feet, then asked me to flip. During the massage, her legs were quite close to my hand, so I gave them an exploratory fondle, which was received with a giggle. Good sign of what will come, I thought.

Indeed, on the flip, the focus was mostly on tickling and teasing, followed by an oily HJ (she asked if I wanted oil). It wasn't the best or most skilled HJ I have had, but it did the trick. She allowed some touching under bras, but not much inside her panties. She didn't take anything off to make it easier. Aside from asking me not to touch her privates, she also did not discourage me much. There was also some cuddling. She got on top and lay on me, her head on my chest. Gave me a few light kisses on the lips. After finishing me, more of the cuddling etc, then she massaged my head, which was very relaxing.

Oh, and those paper shorts. They were obviously just a formality, though she did not completely remove them while she worked. They were not much in the way, either. Maybe they are there in case police come in. They didn't do anything useful.

She left and invited me to take a shower. The room has a shower, so I was able to wash the oil off. I went downstairs and paid. She was there waiting. She did not ask for a tip; I did not give one; she did not seem disappointed as she gave me a card with her number (30) on it. She was not a great-looking lady in the face, but she provided a pleasant experience that I needed.

[b]Around Lacoun St[/b]

There's another massage place right next door. There are also two bars, one called [b]Red Lips[/b] And the other [b]Happy Bar[/b]. As I walked by, a pretty young thing in a form-fitting dress greeted me, obviously wanting me to come in. With the names and the greeting, I have little doubt that something is available in there, perhaps as take-out. I may or may not check that out tonight.

The street water had subsided as I returned to my hotel, to my relief. The traffic had not, but eventually there is a walk light and most (not all) cars actually do stop.

I suspect that if I could find relief so easily that it must be available all over Shanghai. I still don't know where to find the nearest BBS with service, or how to ask for service there (since I speak only a phrase or two of Chinese).

I'd welcome any info people have for the area around Doubletree Pudong.

I had a massage with HE at a massage place near my hotel in Pudong. They told me it was 132 for basic oil massage, and I paid that.

The masseuse never asked for any more, like a tip, and she did not seem disappointed when I left. Was I supposed to tip her? If so, how much?

[QUOTE=Bbqman; 1471803]This forum has always been nice for finding good quality info. So I think from time to time I should also add to it.

I tried a place that I saw from the outside for a while and that I finally tried out the other day.

It is on Datian Lu close to Beijing Lu, just next to a thai restaurant.

So it is the usual, get in the place, get guided to the lockers, get nude in front of the facility guy (I hate that part in China Spa) , do not forget to take your cellphones or cigarettes if you wish to in the little plastic bag, go to the shower room, put cellphone in small locker, get key for it, take shower, go back and get towel + pajamas. Get guided to an elevator and they will tell you to go to 3rd or 2nd floor. They put you in a relax room for a couple of minutes (I went there on the afternoon, so not too much queuing I guess) got offered a drink, they will ask you if you want a room for nurunuru massage or without, and then to the fishbowl, which is an open space where you stand 2 meters from the girl. Ok selection of like 6-8 girls between 5-8 for cuteness.

I had a good time with the girl, normal service not incredible but definitely not bad, but I guess it is the usual YMMV.

Cost 780. 880 depending on the room with or without water facility.

Will I come back? Yes, not because it is incredible, but because it is ok clean and that is the closet place to where I live.

Just a bit further on the street there is also a small shop selling video games, bluray and iPhones. One of the cheapest place in Shanghai and friendly people as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! Is this sauna called Ding Sheng Yuan?

[QUOTE=Masslin; 1471906]Thanks for the report! Is this sauna called Ding Sheng Yuan?.[/QUOTE]Yes, I recognize the entrance.

There was a place directly attached to the Doubletree that was a full service sauna. It was called Dream Spa. If you are standing outside the Doubletree facing the front doors, it was around the side of the building to right. I think it was 780RMB for an hour of full service.

[QUOTE=Steve Naive; 1471828]Though I have submitted many reports all over the globe, this is my first one for Shanghai.

I don't have a lot of spare time. I don't have much patience for waiting for infrequent taxis. I just want a little quick fun without making a big thing of it. While sometimes FS can be a lot of fun, it also involves a bigger investment of time and funds than a massage with HJ. I also don't have a lot of time to search the forum to find places that are near where I stayed, the Doubletree Pudong, and how to get there.

With that in mind, I thought. What will I find on the nearest side street, Lancun? After all, it goes to the subway stop, and if there is any place in a residential neighborhood to find anything, that would be it. The answer was: at least two massage parlors, and two bars that look like they are for mongering. The challenge today was that the thunderstorm left water a half a foot deep. Crossing the big street involved wading, barefoot, across, because I imagined that immersing my sneakers would render them damp and moldy by the end of the trip: the air is so humid I cannot expect them to dry. So I did like the locals did: took shoes and socks off and waded.

I simply went into the first massage parlor I found. An oil massage was quoted as 128 RMB (but somehow when I came out, it was 132 RMB). I was asked whether I wanted a man or a lady; it would not surprise me if at least an HJ is available from either, but I won't be finding out.

The place is clean and relatively nice. I was led to a small room that had a shower, and given a pair of paper shorts to wear. They were small for me, and readily tore out the crotch. I thought, these aren't going to provide much modesty.

My masseuse was thin. In the dark, I mostly was aware that she was nice and giggley, young. She asked if I wanted a hard massage and I said yes. She isn't strong, not like the Thai masseuse I found in HK (who did not provide any services) , but it was relaxing. She spent a bit over a half hour on my neck, shoulders, back, butt, legs, feet, then asked me to flip. During the massage, her legs were quite close to my hand, so I gave them an exploratory fondle, which was received with a giggle. Good sign of what will come, I thought.

Indeed, on the flip, the focus was mostly on tickling and teasing, followed by an oily HJ (she asked if I wanted oil). It wasn't the best or most skilled HJ I have had, but it did the trick. She allowed some touching under bras, but not much inside her panties. She didn't take anything off to make it easier. Aside from asking me not to touch her privates, she also did not discourage me much. There was also some cuddling. She got on top and lay on me, her head on my chest. Gave me a few light kisses on the lips. After finishing me, more of the cuddling etc, then she massaged my head, which was very relaxing.

Oh, and those paper shorts. They were obviously just a formality, though she did not completely remove them while she worked. They were not much in the way, either. Maybe they are there in case police come in. They didn't do anything useful.

She left and invited me to take a shower. The room has a shower, so I was able to wash the oil off. I went downstairs and paid. She was there waiting. She did not ask for a tip; I did not give one; she did not seem disappointed as she gave me a card with her number (30) on it. She was not a great-looking lady in the face, but she provided a pleasant experience that I needed.

[b]Around Lacoun St[/b]

There's another massage place right next door. There are also two bars, one called [b]Red Lips[/b] And the other [b]Happy Bar[/b]. As I walked by, a pretty young thing in a form-fitting dress greeted me, obviously wanting me to come in. With the names and the greeting, I have little doubt that something is available in there, perhaps as take-out. I may or may not check that out tonight.

The street water had subsided as I returned to my hotel, to my relief. The traffic had not, but eventually there is a walk light and most (not all) cars actually do stop.

I suspect that if I could find relief so easily that it must be available all over Shanghai. I still don't know where to find the nearest BBS with service, or how to ask for service there (since I speak only a phrase or two of Chinese).

I'd welcome any info people have for the area around Doubletree Pudong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1472222]There was a place directly attached to the Doubletree that was a full service sauna. It was called Dream Spa. If you are standing outside the Doubletree facing the front doors, it was around the side of the building to right. I think it was 780RMB for an hour of full service.[/QUOTE]FB's correct. There was also an option for approx. RMB1300 which takes you to a private room (with shower, bath, fuck chair, bed) , no public shower / locker room drill necessary. When standing at the desk, motion that you want to go right (left is the standard locker room drill).

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1471433]I guess there is another cleaning-up campaign ongoing, happens often in September, before National Day. Things will soon be back to normal, after the holidays.

Lev[/QUOTE]PoPo working JinYu Road. In Pudong today. Two vans, one marked, one not. Looks like an all afternoon affair. Avoid the Vienna hotel and adjacent 'spa'.

We arrived in Shanghai from Taipei on Friday. As I have previously reported I travel often with my bisexual Taiwanese wife. Friday we did nothing my Wife was just finishing her period and going out to have a crazy time just wasn't in the cards. So we went out to Big Bamboo for dinner. As my wife says it should be called the 'Dinosaur Bar' as most of the FLs were significantly older. So after a quiet dinner it was early to bed and early to wake. Saturday was a slow day as we both were saving energy for a wild night – now that her period was over she was super horny. We left the hotel around 10p and headed first out to Malones for a couple of warm up drinks and we wanted to check out the Band. The action at Malones was lame though the band was better than advertised – I would call it mediocre. Men outnumbered women about 3 or 4 to 1 and much to my wife's disappointment very few Filipinos. My wife has a thing for Filipino chicks. We headed out from Malones to Manhattans with hope of better pickings.

Sure enough Manhattan's did not disappoint. Plenty of women and the guys were mostly older and / or fatter and / or balder than me. After getting situated and ordering our drinks the hunt was on. My wife caught the eye of a tall Chinese girl. I bought a drink for her and let my wife try to close the deal. Nice girl but was very surprised that we were looking for 3p action. As she told my wife. Me introducing her as my lao po was a mistake. Even as my wife tried very hard to sell her on the idea of a 3some all in Chinese – it just wasn't going to happen with her. As I was getting ready to start looking for a back-up plan my wife spotted a very hot Viet chick. She got very excited but the girl had her back to us and we couldn't catch her eye. Apparently my wife told the Chinese girl that she thought that the Viet girl was hot so the Chinese girl decided to make the introduction. Perhaps she just wanted out of the situation but, hey it was great service (latter I found out from the Viet chick that it is customary for her to give the introducing girl a 'finder's fee'- interesting didn't know that). Generally, at Manhattan's it appeared that there was a dearth of Filipino's (which was something different that my last trip and as expected somewhat disappointed my wife. But she got over it quickly) and many more Chinese FL than I have ever experienced before.

The Viet chick I will call V (names are overrated) and she was smoking hot and my Wife was very turned on. Turned out she was 21 and in from Singapore where she worked Ipanema and the Living Room (ok clearly a pro). We got down to brass tacks. Was she up for a threesome – 'maybe' she had done one once before in Thailand (with a western couple) – ok promising. She pulled out her phone and typed 'is she a lesbian? ' I didn't want to explain the difference of Bisexuality and Lesbianism so I simply answered yep! As my Wife headed to the bathroom V started the pricing negotiation – I made it clear to her that this was more about her fucking my wife than fucking me and would she be ok with that? Slightly nervous she agreed and we settled on a price – frankly I could have negotiated harder but didn't so I went for ST and we can discuss LT if my wife wants – in the bigger scheme of things paying a little more and having my wife happy is always the right thing in my mind. Leaving the bar with two girls in tow we headed to the cab and back to the Hotel.

Back at the hotel V was thrilled that we had a suite and the girls quickly disrobed. My wife insisted that V take a shower with me and blow me as my wife watched. Who was I to complain. After my shower, my wife got in the shower with V they soaped each other and my wife shaved V's pussy then V shaved her – all of this while I was watching. Hot. Super hot. Now to the bedroom. The girls got on either side of me and did a double BBBJ. Then my wife had V sit on my face while she when down on me. V faced my wife and my cock and started to join in while I licked her for everything I was worth. She had a small and sweet pussy freshly shaved – yum. After a good 10 minutes in this position. My Wife decided it was time for V to fuck me. The girls got the condom out and V mounted me. While my wife kissed me. Then she fondled V's breasts. Next I moved V to her knees and dogged her from behind as she kissed my wife and played with her pussy. This was going well. A little more fucking and sucking in multiple positions then break time. All three of us adjourned to the living room and collapsed on the couch – we chatted drank and smoked. V was feeling comfortable with us and was really enjoying my wife – this was going very very well.

Break over back to the bedroom – as my wife went to the bathroom V used her feet to play with my cock – I don't have a foot fetish but it was pretty good – this girl has talent. My wife got back and the girls went down on me. As I was standing tall now it was time to fuck my wife – I bent her onto her knees and fucked her from behind as she went down on V. A great scene to overview. As my wife went down on V it was clear that either V was really into it or was an academy award quality actress – I'm not going to claim that I know which it was but, for me I will assume it was the former. That my story and I'm sticking to it . V came very loudly – The girls got the condom out and I fucked V for a bit more mostly in reversed cowgirl which my wife really liked – she played with V's ass and watch my cock plunging into her sweet hole. As it was getting late it was time for me to cum – My wife asks V if I can cum into her mouth and then pass it to her. One of my favorite moves. V eagerly agrees and I blow my load in her mouth as the cum is literally dripping from her chin. She kisses my wife passing my load to her. Then V with her finger cleans the cum off her chin and licks her finger clean. Wow! This chick is a keeper! I'm exhausted now we have been going at it for 1. 5hour at least and I'm not in my 20's.

So I figure V will be off quickly – its 1:30a so I figure she can try for a second customer, but she wants to spend the night wants to hang with my wife? Hmmm is this a play for LT payment or just she likes our company? Do I really care? We chit chat for about 30 minutes. But, I'm exhausted and we often prefer to sleep alone as my wife likes to replay the evening's events. So the girls swap phone numbers and we plan to meet again on Wednesday after our business meetings. I'm heading to Beijing tomorrow and I think my wife may call V for some playtime while I'm gone but we shall see. To be continued.

Thanks to [b]Fritobugger[/b] For the information about Dream. Wish I had known while I was still at Doubletree.

I explored Lancun a bit more. Got nothing for my trouble, but here's the report.

Purple Blossom Massage, across the street from the place for my first visit (which included HE) , gave me a much better massage. However, she neglected to work the kinks out of one muscle in particular, which was definitely a bit tight and stressed, and it was obvious. I don't usually ask when it's obvious I am in need, and ignored, because any masseuse willing to do HE will notice and take care of it, or at least discuss price options if required, and there's no point in embarrassing a woman who doesn't do that.

I also visited the Happy Bar. Several ladies, some young, some middle age, ranging from 4 to 7. They are happy to talk, especially if you buy a lady drink at 60 RMB. They have dice games at the bar, the famous disc game, and pool. I think that when you play, you play for drinks, rather than money. If she wins, you buy her another expensive lady drink. If you win, she buys you a drink.

It's not clear that much more is available. I spent close to an hour with one lady, bought her the drink. When it came to another round, I decided to leave, figuring that if more was available, she would make a pitch. She wanted to move me into the back room. Still part of the bar. For the next round, but she made no indication that she was available to me, even as I left. I don't know exactly what the game is.

I looked in at the Red Lips Bar next door, and there were a few people at the bar. I did not go in.

I did not see any BBS in the area. But now I know I can get FS at Dream, thanks to a fellow mongerer, though it does not seem cheap. Maybe that's just how prices have changed since last I was in China, but I used to get action for less than that.

[QUOTE=Masslin; 1469931]It is a little difficult to find such kind of massage place at Caobao road and Longming Road as you mentioned, but I found some very popular massage shops at Caobao road and Longming road in Shanghai Happy Blog, is there a massage shop with golden decoration as you mentioned in this article?[/QUOTE]Can't find from these pictures, but if you are coming from longming heading south towards Caobao, then U-turn left, it will be the first place on the left. You enter, there's the reception in front of you and a corridor on left, you pass by the stairs on the right and go to shoes place. You will know you are in the right place then.

[QUOTE=Steve Naive; 1472293]Thanks to [b]Fritobugger[/b] For the information about Dream. Wish I had known while I was still at Doubletree.

I explored Lancun a bit more. Got nothing for my trouble, but here's the report.

Purple Blossom Massage, across the street from the place for my first visit (which included HE) , gave me a much better massage. However, she neglected to work the kinks out of one muscle in particular, which was definitely a bit tight and stressed, and it was obvious. I don't usually ask when it's obvious I am in need, and ignored, because any masseuse willing to do HE will notice and take care of it, or at least discuss price options if required, and there's no point in embarrassing a woman who doesn't do that.

I also visited the Happy Bar. Several ladies, some young, some middle age, ranging from 4 to 7. They are happy to talk, especially if you buy a lady drink at 60 RMB. They have dice games at the bar, the famous disc game, and pool. I think that when you play, you play for drinks, rather than money. If she wins, you buy her another expensive lady drink. If you win, she buys you a drink.

It's not clear that much more is available. I spent close to an hour with one lady, bought her the drink. When it came to another round, I decided to leave, figuring that if more was available, she would make a pitch. She wanted to move me into the back room. Still part of the bar. For the next round, but she made no indication that she was available to me, even as I left. I don't know exactly what the game is.

I looked in at the Red Lips Bar next door, and there were a few people at the bar. I did not go in.

I did not see any BBS in the area. But now I know I can get FS at Dream, thanks to a fellow mongerer, though it does not seem cheap. Maybe that's just how prices have changed since last I was in China, but I used to get action for less than that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report! Is the massage place that you mentioned in your first report called Lofty Spa?

I owe contributers to this forum and the Beijing one a lot of good times and like to return. This one is really a rarity interesting to talk to about politics (!) and economy as well, but most of all.

Using her brain for increasing fun. Did see her 2 month ago and in preparing my next visit beginning of October, of course to check the menu (what else might be on it, haha) in ISG is a must.

But lately there is only talk about BBS etc. , quite disappointing. So I want to entice the readers to share other experiences. Here is mine:

PM me please, for any details.

Gregory

Interesting stories indeed. What caught my attetion 'ironically' was the second one where you were at the KTV with the 'pregnant looser'. I am into pregnant babes so I would appreciate if you could share the details of this girl- name, QQ, phone no, email. Thanks in adv.

[QUOTE=Suronin; 1470640]These are the reports for three different visits to Shanghai in the last 3 months.

Story 1 July: Wandered into Red bar in Wu Lu Mu Qi Road very near Zapata, it was a Monday and every other bar that I liked in the area was pretty much dead, Red was no exception, there was just one girl there (well actually there was another girl sleeping on a booth but I didn't see her at the time) she was quite cute and dressed

In what seemed like lingerie, got into talking with her, her english was very good and she was actually quite smart and interesting, she had a tattoo on the back of her.

Neck (which dive me crazy) and another one on one of her legs and I think her name was Jenny but I'm not sure, got a few drinks for me and her and we started to get...[/QUOTE]

I had the good fortune of meeting two lovely lady's during my last trip to Shanghai. My first two visits had left me never wanting to return. My first trip I got robbed and my second I could not find a companion and had to rely on an overpriced service that sent over a girl with a cold. Overpriced and very poor service.

Anyway, my last trip in August I stayed at the Royal Meridian off of Hangjin Road. I first went out on my own and was approached by young men and one woman asking me if I was looking for massage or sex. They offered to take me to a place where I could pick out my girl. I refused as this is how I got robbed on my first visit. After twenty minutes I decided to call it quits. Later that night I walked down to the Bund with a coworker who is Chinese. He promised to get me what I was looking for. Another young woman was trying to get us to go to a bar to choose a lady but I expressed my concern. After some negotiating she agreed to have a few young ladies meet us at a coffee shop across from my hotel. The first lady showed up and we talked for a short time and I decided I was comfortable with her. Agreed on 800 because of using the service. She was an 8/10. Back at my hotel we showered and started getting to know each other. After a little play time she starts trying to up sell, mostly for overnight but also for BBJ. I took my 800 back and said it was time for her to leave. She of course stopped with the up sell and proceeded with some light GFE. At first I don't think she was into DATY but by time I was done I could tell she enjoyed it. Two things give it away, She was soaking wet and most women cannot fake the leg quiver. I have her number for my next visit and I may just see what I can negotiate for overnight.

Second night I was walking Hangjin Road not really looking for a companion when I was approached by a young lady asking if I needed a massage. At first I thought she was going to offer to take me to a bar to pick someone out. I quickly asked if she would perform the massage and she replied she would. She wanted 600 but quickly accepted my offer of 300. Other than no BBJ she was very GFE. I have her number for next time as well. I am sure I could get her for an overnight for less than 600 on my next trip.

I know others have enjoyed this place but not me. I have been looking for somewhere with real Nuru massage, using the Japanese tasteless gel with all that goes with it. In other words, a mixture between cat bath and soapy, with the girl sliding, licking and sucking. Plenty of places in Shanghai are rumoured to have nuru massage but so far I have only found soapies.

Well, Hongsong was another disappointment, and not just because they don't do Nuru. The first bad sign was just after I selected the girl (#809) from a large range in the fishbowl. The manager told me that there would be no guarantee of FS and the girl may just give me a HJ. Because of the unreasonable size of foreign dicks, of course. And that it was up to the girl to decide. Well, I wasn't happy with this but given the positive reports of the place, I thought I'd go ahead anyway and see how things turned out. Next, while waiting for 40 minutes for a room (and this is at 3pm) my chosen girl was completely uncommunicative. I tried starting a conversation (in Chinese) several times but she just wouldn't respond or even look at me. Eventually, I suggested that maybe she wasn't happy to be giving me a massage and that if so, I would ask to change girl, but no, she said, that was not allowed here, and if I quite at this stage, I'd still have to pay the full amount. OK, so on to the room. I explained that I wanted the nuru massage and a long conversation ensued, eventually involving the manager. Since I still don't know the right way to translate this term into Chinese, I just described it in the way I did at the beginning of this report. ("Shui mo" is just too general a term and seems to designate soapies primarily.) Anyway, it was understood that I didn't want the soap and so in the end she used a kind of gel. The same kind that is used as a tasteless lubricant for sex. This was ok except that she only had a tiny bottle and had absolutely no clue about how to give a massage. It lasted about 5 mins. Probably less. Next the cat bath and BBBJ, which was amateurish at best. Minimal licking, no AR and much too fast a BJ, totally lacking in eroticism. Then sex in a restricted range of positions, eventually leading to withdrawal and instances that she jerk me off instead. This is 40 minutes into the session including the time spent talking about nuru. Here the sessions are only 50 minutes for a wacking 980 RMB. I told her not to bother and called the manager to ask for another girl. Of course, I would have to pay another 980 rmb, but I figured that I must have just had bad luck. After all the place is hugely popular. This time, I asked the manager explicitly to recommend a girl that would give good service. He suggested #65, a taller girl from dongbei who looked more experienced. Well, it wasn't much better. She used some sort of gel but again very little of it and only in the same way that soap is used. This time there was a bit of AR and the BJ was better. Wanting to get my money's worth, I decided I'd go for 2 shots, which is permitted here. So I came with the BJ although she didn't allow CIM so it was more of a HJ with mouth action. After that she was clearly wanting to avoid the actual intercourse part. I insisted and she "allowed" me to fuck her but again in a very restricted way, complaining when I wanted to change position.

So, IMO, this place is way over-priced for what it is. Yes you get a massage, but it is done without skill or enthusiasm. Aside from that you can't expect more service than from a BBS girl. Yet the place is crowded. Guys are queuing up to get a piece of the action here. I suppose that is just because of the large number of girls and their above-average good looks. Well, to be more accurate, the average appearance is higher her than most other places and there are also more girls, but I wouldn't say that the prettiest girls here are better than those at other places, and since you have to compete with other guys your chances of getting a girl who is both good-looking, warm and not sexually dead is reduced.

One final let down. After this sexual waste of time, I decided to check out the other facilities. It is a bathhouse, after all, and I'd read about good facilities, food, etc. Well, the place is so geared to processing hundreds of guys a day for their 980 rmb 50-minute quickies that it was hard to convince the attendants that yes I really wanted a sauna not a sauna-as-a-euphemism-for-sex. When I finally got there, the facilities were not bad, but since no one had been using the sauna, it was only luke warm. I didn't spend much time there, showered again, and dressed for the relaxation area. The attendant handing me the pajama shorts inside-out. To give credit, another attendant noticed this and turned them around for me. In the (very small) relaxation area there were a number of girls offering ear cleaning and various forms of massage. Originally, I had thought to round out my afternoon of luxury with one of these, but after spending so much on the sex, I decided against it, opting instead for a bowl of noodles. This came, after ten minutes or so, obviously microwaved, with burning hot noodles and a cold, pre-fried pork cutlet on top. Really disgusting. I barely touched it and left.

Damage: 1960 rmb. Would I go back: no way.

TM

I went to Feng Ding Yuan, the sauna on the 5F at the Fake Market off E Nanjing Road. This was my first sauna experience and honestly I was disappointed.

I selected this sauna because it had generally good reviews and offered a nuru massage for a 90 minute at $880 RMB.

I showed up at 10:00 on Sept. 9, which I guess was a day or two before it was shut down based on other posts. I came in and went to the fishbowl where they showed me 3 girls who were all about 5-6 in looks. I took the one who had the best body and off we went. My girl spoke no English and I speak 3 words of Chinese, so there was no verbal communication.

Got to the room which had a dry side and wet side as well as a 40" flat screen playing Asian porn. Into the shower where she washed my body with soap and water. From there I went onto the table and she mixed the nuru gel. And applied it liberally to my body.

She then starting sliding all over me with her naked body and massaging my back and legs with her boobs and pussy. This was by far the highlight of the massage and it went down hill from here.

We finished the nuru, back to the shower to wash off, and onto the bed. There was a little bit of BBBJ, but it really was pretty mechanical. WE moved onto the cat bath and this was a complete turn off and waste of time.

She sprayed my body with some alcohol or some other disinfectant, then she took a mouthful of some gel like liquid, and while gargling with it, sucked my whole body. After doing a section, she would then start spitting it out like a cat with a hairball. There was nothing at all erotic about this. This took probably 20 minutes.

So we now move to the main event. There is zero GF action. She was giving me a BJ and I tried to do 69, but she wasn't at all into it and moved away after a minute or two. She did a little better than starfishing it in mish. So we moved to doggie. After about 5 minutes of her not being into it at all, I said WTF and blew my load.

So this was about 60 minutes into it. She started to give me a crappy massage and after about 15 I said I wanted to leave.

Was questioned if everything was OK, and rather than complaining since I won't be coming back, just said yes but I want to leave early.

So all in all, $880 for a decent nuru massage and crappy sex with a girl that was completely disengaged. You know it is bad when you are wishing that it was 60 minutes not 90.

Will not repeat.

[url]www.cathybeauty.wix.com/cathy[/url]

Sorry still newcomer here and only visited a handful of bbs in Pudong.

Ok so I was wondering around and like usual I like to keep track of the random bbs I see when exploring shanghai. So I am in Pudong and I guess its the JinQiao area near Jintai Road X jinqiao Road (if you paste these latitude and longitude coordinates in Google maps it will show exactly where I'm talking about. 31. 249589, 121. 590365, and 31. 249814, 121. 590193)

Any way so I'm walking around over here and apparently China is doing some construction to the 552 county road and 001 county road so I go and wander into the block that the construction surrounds on 2 sides and find some crazy weird working girl nest or something LOL. I am walking down these "alleys" (east to west at the coordinates I gave) and on both sides of the street maybe 3 or 4 on the left and right are bbs and even the actual street one street to the north of these "alleys" has I believe 1 shop / den / bbs / what ever. What I saw was a mix but I have never seen older women like I did here.

Has anyone came across this area? Or been to a bbs with older women? Do you pay less? Anything to avoid?

Here is the correct link: [url]http://cathybeauty.wix.com/chathy[/url]

Although the typo may make it as unique as the lady. I am proof myself.

Grgory, ohhh

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1474851][url]www.cathybeauty.wix.com/cathy[/url][/QUOTE]

Cathy repaired it. Here you find the Gem:

Cathybeauty. Wix. Com / cathy.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1475109]Here is the correct link:

[url]http://cathybeauty.wix.com/chathy[/url]

Although the typo may make it as unique as the lady. I am proof myself.

Grgory, ohhh

Gregory.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marty47; 1469294]This GEM is great. She came in with a big kiss and grabbed my crotch and said this will be good. Speaks excellent English. The sex was great, she does not hold back at all. Love to give BBBJCIM and all over her. If any of you get a chance to be with you will be back for a second row, guaranteed.

PM me if you want contact information.[/QUOTE]Hi Marty47,

I'm quite new here and would be interested to get the contact details of your GEM but don't know how to send you a private message. I think I don't have the good level or something like this.

Am I right, if yes, what can I do to contact her?

Regards.

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Not a fan of this area. Pretty much gave up on it.

I suggest you check the BBS places on the other side of Century Park off of Baiyang Lu. They have been mentioned here a few times.

[QUOTE=JohnDoe2121; 1475034]Sorry still newcomer here and only visited a handful of bbs in Pudong.

Ok so I was wondering around and like usual I like to keep track of the random bbs I see when exploring shanghai. So I am in Pudong and I guess its the JinQiao area near Jintai Road X jinqiao Road (if you paste these latitude and longitude coordinates in Google maps it will show exactly where I'm talking about. 31. 249589, 121. 590365, and 31. 249814, 121. 590193)

Any way so I'm walking around over here and apparently China is doing some construction to the 552 county road and 001 county road so I go and wander into the block that the construction surrounds on 2 sides and find some crazy weird working girl nest or something LOL. I am walking down these "alleys" (east to west at the coordinates I gave) and on both sides of the street maybe 3 or 4 on the left and right are bbs and even the actual street one street to the north of these "alleys" has I believe 1 shop / den / bbs / what ever. What I saw was a mix but I have never seen older women like I did here.

Has anyone came across this area? Or been to a bbs with older women? Do you pay less? Anything to avoid?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnDoe2121; 1475034]Sorry still newcomer here and only visited a handful of bbs in Pudong.

Ok so I was wondering around and like usual I like to keep track of the random bbs I see when exploring shanghai. So I am in Pudong and I guess its the JinQiao area near Jintai Road X jinqiao Road (if you paste these latitude and longitude coordinates in Google maps it will show exactly where I'm talking about. 31. 249589, 121. 590365, and 31. 249814, 121. 590193)

Any way so I'm walking around over here and apparently China is doing some construction to the 552 county road and 001 county road so I go and wander into the block that the construction surrounds on 2 sides and find some crazy weird working girl nest or something LOL. I am walking down these "alleys" (east to west at the coordinates I gave) and on both sides of the street maybe 3 or 4 on the left and right are bbs and even the actual street one street to the north of these "alleys" has I believe 1 shop / den / bbs / what ever. What I saw was a mix but I have never seen older women like I did here.

Has anyone came across this area? Or been to a bbs with older women? Do you pay less? Anything to avoid?[/QUOTE]If you like older women (like I do) there's plenty of choice in that area. I try not to enter one where I see too many women, otherwise they always try to upsell you to 3P. 4P, etc. If I see only one or two then I go in. Usually overpay (laowai tax) RMB 200 for FS (no BJ).

First off, thanks for all the valuable information on this board and special thanks to Ira for the supply of Vitamins. See his post in the classifieds section.

I was in Shanghai for about 10 days in mid August. Stayed at the Jin Jiang tower hotel and wasn't able to find any BBS close by.

I'm not much for the assembly line sessions of Spas so skipped those.

I focused my mongering mostly on the pick up bars. Manhattan and Judy's to be exact.

First Manhattan. Went there on 3 nights and all of those nights regardless of whether it was a week night or weekend night, the place was packed after 11:30 pm and all the way up till about 3 or 4 am and there was plenty of talent. I found occasional pinays and Chinese but mostly viets. All theway from your average 4s or 5s to almost 8s (my scale) in terms of spinners with a bit of a meat at the right places. Both Manhattan and Judy's have entertainment. As in live band and dancers. Manhattan had belly dancers on weekend nights. I pulled 2 viets from Manhattan. The first one was a bit older I'd say around 28 but was really pretty to look at.

The first night I went in, I wanted to take in the scene and not rush to pick up in the first couple of hours. I found myself a table at the right side of the club that is the row in front of bar as that had the best view of the stage and dancers who dance at the far side of the bar. Soon enough girls started coming in and trying to charm me to take them up on their offer. All I can say is that I was like a kid in a candy store and it's an amazing feeling when you know that you can have any of them for the right price and makes you feel like a stud. It really boosts your confidence quite a bit. Girl after girl would come by and just by talking to them for a bit you can judge how they will be later on by the level of touching and feeling you get from them. As the night progressed the hustle got proportionally stronger.

By about 2 am, miss L came over to my table and started talking. She was drinking wine and seemed a bit tipsy already and I plied her with one more and the results were amazing. We were making out at the table like a couple of teenagers. She had her hand down my pants and was making a really argument for why I should choose her and I couldn't say no as by this time, I was ready as well. So we get out the bar and head straight to my hotel. No problems at the hotel and as soon as we entered the elevators, we were back making out again. If you noticed, there was no talk of money until now, it was just pure GFE. In the room, she went straight for Junior and was sucking it like her life depended on it and I couldn't hold it much longer and had my pop in about 10 minutes into it. The weather was really hot and humid and I suggested that we take a shower to take a break and go at it again. We both got in the shower and make out session continued in the shower as well and we came out and had a couple of drinks and went back at it again. Two more pops and then we went back to sleep exhausted. In the morning we went at it again and it was about 11 am. She showered and was ready to leave. I gave her 1100 and another 100 for taxi and she was on her way. So the first session was amazing and what a way to start the trip. I took the night off since I had some dinner arrangements and early meetings the next day.

Went back again to Manhattan on Tuesday night and picked out a really hot viet girl. She seemed eager at the table and was letting my hands roam but when I got her to the hotel, she was a bit more professional. Why is it that hot ones always have attitudes? I was able to get 2 pops but it was pretty tame as compared to my earlier session with L. I didn't want to keep he the entire night as the vibe wasn't there so I let her go about 4 am. The damage was 1200 and 50 for taxi.

Since this session left a bad taste in my mouth, I decided I will try out Judy's next. I will post on that later.

Hi all,

Went to that Buddha massage place Off changping Lu x north Shaanxi lu. Anywho I read on here that a massage with BJ is 300 and the normal massage here alone is 300 apperently. Was I supposed to haggle the price set by the laoban? Any who massage was good but a little short 30 min with (special massage) after of covered BJ 10min block of time (my choice for cover she was all for uncovered LOL) she wanted 200 I gave her 100 tip. But in the beginning when I asked price she said 300 and figured that was with tip. Oh her# is 22 Paid 400 total oh well. I would deff go back if someone that. Normally goes her tells me what I did wrong LOL.

Thanks for the input guys.

Finally, back to Shanghai after a month of travel across south east Asia.

After all those Asian pussy, I thought I have had enough. But as everyone knows, its never enough.

I wanted to find someone who will be a nice company for week or so. Not much interested in pure sex but was like a companion.

With no Mandarin and not many friends, my search turned futile!

Planning to try the pick up scene. But no viets this time. I'm determined to go local!

Will post FR soon. If its good.

[QUOTE=JohnDoe2121; 1476066]Hi all,

Went to that Buddha massage place Off changping Lu x north Shaanxi lu. Anywho I read on here that a massage with BJ is 300 and the normal massage here alone is 300 apperently. Was I supposed to haggle the price set by the laoban? Any who massage was good but a little short 30 min with (special massage) after of covered BJ 10min block of time (my choice for cover she was all for uncovered LOL) she wanted 200 I gave her 100 tip. But in the beginning when I asked price she said 300 and figured that was with tip. Oh her# is 22 Paid 400 total oh well. I would deff go back if someone that. Normally goes her tells me what I did wrong LOL.

Thanks for the input guys.[/QUOTE]Instead of the Buddha massage, go to the other corner. It is not as nice inside but clean. Let me post my report

Well, I had a great 2 weeks in shanghai. If I put down all the reports together no one would want to read the book! I will post over the next week to give some info and what I learned. The first report is on the corner of Shaanxi lu / Chanping lu. I have been there before and posted but figured I would give an update. The good news is #18 is back! She went home for a while and a few of us were missing her. My advice is ask for #18. .

I showed up and asked for her and she was back. She was happy to see me and remembered me from last year. She proceeded to give me a massage on the back, walk on the back, use one of those jell things in her mouth. She rolled it down my back (in her mouth) while her chest rubbed against my back. She pulled my butt crack apart and rubbed the jell in my butt while it was in her mouth. ON the flip she changed jells and rubbed it against little brother while the jell was in her mouth. She then let me kiss her chest pretty much as long as I wanted (as her shirt and bra were off now). She started to get ready to give me a BBBJ / CIM.

I asked her if she had a condom (I had to make the hand signal over little brother). She smiled, grabbed one and we were off to the races. She kept her eyes locked on mine while I watched her. It was a great BJ. I finished. We talked a little in my broken Chinese. I then took a shower. She joined me in the shower (clothed). Washed my back, my crack, little brother, my chest. This is all standard service for her! It was a great time and well worth it. I know guys say we should not spoil them, but I gave her a 100rmb tip even though she did not ask. She didn't want it at first but took it. I think she said she was saving for an I phone. (apple- pin guo). She speaks no English but hand signals go a long way.

Well, I know a BJ / massage is 280. When I got to the front counter, she told the guy I got a HJ / massage as he only charged me 200! LOL. So 300 for that service is a deal.

On the way out, there was a guy that had a different girl (#10, with tattoos). He looked like he was sucking lemons. I know her as I have had her before and would leave before I had her again. I asked him how it was. He told me not good.

So my recommendation is 18 is worth the trip. Otherwise go elsewhere. If she likes you, she will give you her cell. Don't ask me. That is up to her.

More reports to follow!

Sam Can

Hey all,

I am a big fan of prostate massage. I've gotten this many times at the Chinese place at 484 Xikang Lu, but it's getting run down, and my last few experiences there were OK at best. They do a full body massage, then if you're lucky, the girl will take her shirt off on the flip, and do the prostate thing. Some of them know what they're doing, most don't.

I went to Waves (Hai Lang) once and the service was great, but the girl wouldn't do a prostate massage. But I'd like to go back there since the experience was amazing. I saw other people there who bring a little pouch with them into the room, presumably for condoms, cigarettes, whatever. Now hear me out: I'd like to bring a strap-on with me for the girl to wear and use on me. It's unlikely she'll do a prostate massage, so this is sort of an intriguing compromise. I don't speak any Chinese.

Is this a completely insane idea?

Will I get thrown out?

Do you think the girl will go for it?

Does anyone know of any places in Shanghai that are nice, clean, top-notch girls, that will do prostate massage?

Thanks for your help,

TC

The sauna centre in Shangahi hotel is awesome.

They don't offer any sauna massage. Its just massage and special massage 760 RMB.

Pretty cheap considering others. Great collection of girls.

SamCan,

Which corner of Shaanxi / Channping is this? I've been to the Buddha place. Is it on the the catty-corner or directly across the street? Any signs or landmarks to distinguish it? I remember seeing a bunch of other massage parlors around that area so I'm not quite sure which one you are referring to. Also, what does #18 look like? Skinny / fat / tall / short? I'm curious to try her.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1476276]Well, I had a great 2 weeks in shanghai. If I put down all the reports together no one would want to read the book! I will post over the next week to give some info and what I learned. The first report is on the corner of Shaanxi lu / Chanping lu. I have been there before and posted but figured I would give an update. The good news is #18 is back! She went home for a while and a few of us were missing her. My advice is ask for #18. .

I showed up and asked for her and she was back. She was happy to see me and remembered me from last year. She proceeded to give me a massage on the back, walk on the back, use one of those jell things in her mouth. She rolled it down my back (in her mouth) while her chest rubbed against my back. She pulled my butt crack apart and rubbed the jell in my butt while it was in her mouth. ON the flip she changed jells and rubbed it against little brother while the jell was in her mouth. She then let me kiss her chest pretty much as long as I wanted...[/QUOTE]

Tried her out last month, had some free time with the spouse away. Communicated via wechat.

Came over ontime and very friendly. Not a stunner but not that bad and pretty good body, though those liking large breasts will be dissappointed.

She was fully shaved and wanted a BBBJ to start, who am I to argue. Loved giving it and really tried but rarely do I pop on a BJ, good DATY and 69 followed and got great response when I played with her back door.

Tried a few positions and giving a realy good pounding when she asked me if I wanted to backdoor her.

Sprayed a lotion into her to lubricate and away we went. Gently at first then she was realy asking me to do her hard. She claimed to have an anal orgasm, though couldn't tell if she did. Stayed about an hour as I was busy at the time.

Next time I might ask her to bring along some toys, only thing that was a little off putting was her constant talking throughout the process, not bad talk, just asking me if it was good etc. I think she is trying to build a client databse to serve you better, but was the only downside of the night.

[QUOTE=Optional; 1476498]SamCan,

Which corner of Shaanxi / Channping is this? I've been to the Buddha place. Is it on the the catty-corner or directly across the street? Any signs or landmarks to distinguish it? I remember seeing a bunch of other massage parlors around that area so I'm not quite sure which one you are referring to. Also, what does #18 look like? Skinny / fat / tall / short? I'm curious to try her.

Thanks![/QUOTE]There is a picture of the place. It is across the street from the Buddha place and on the corner. #18 is not fat, proportioned well. I would not call her skinny. But just right. She is typical Chinese height 5' 2"? She has died her hair blond which works on her. Treat her nice and she will you. She is a very happy girl.

well, another place i went was also on shaanxi lu. i had heard good things about this place from masslin's page. they advertise a double phoenix with 2 girls. i always wanted to try it so i went to 1159 shaanxi lu.

i walked in and talked to the girl at the desk. i knew i was in trouble when i asked her for 2 pretty girls in chinese. she hemmed and hawed. she asked if i wanted to see the room and girls. i said ok. the room looked good on first glance. i said ok. she went to get the girl. while she was gone, i started to have second thoughts. the room is not as clean as i thought. there is peeling paint on the walls and the floor in the shower is looking like it has never been cleaned. i am ready to just walk out when the door opens.

there she is! she is a solid 8. 5 or 9! she is young, cute and in what looks like an airline uniform. she starts to point to the menu card and ask which one i want. i am so in love with her, i say ok to anything she is offering. there is another knock on the door. omg! the next one is so freakin bad! she looks like the cleaning lady. she is in her late 40s, overweight and saggy boobs. she has a stupid smile on her face that could only look good on a puppy. it was like ice cold water got thrown on little brother!

i immediately left and passed the front desk girl on the way out. on the way home i stopped at changping lu / shaanxi lu which is where i discovered 18 was back. (previous post). all things worked out in the end!

sam can

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1476201]Finally, back to Shanghai after a month of travel across south east Asia.

After all those Asian pussy, I thought I have had enough. But as everyone knows, its never enough.

I wanted to find someone who will be a nice company for week or so. Not much interested in pure sex but was like a companion.

With no Mandarin and not many friends, my search turned futile!

Planning to try the pick up scene. But no viets this time. I'm determined to go local!

Will post FR soon. If its good.[/QUOTE]I think you can search Shanghai happy massage, there are many escort girls who can provide a nice company for you, they are all very professional and know what you like. You can have a try!

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1476693]Well, another place I went was also on shaanxi lu. I had heard good things about this place from Masslin's page. They advertise a double phoenix with 2 girls. I always wanted to try it so I went to 1159 Shaanxi LU.

There is another knock on the door. OMG! The next one is so freakin bad! She looks like the cleaning lady. She is in her late 40s, overweight and saggy boobs. She has a stupid smile on her face that could only look good on a puppy. It was like Ice cold water got thrown on Little brother!

I immediately left and passed the front desk girl on the way out. On the way home I stopped at Changping lu / Shaanxi lu which is where I discovered 18 was back. (previous post). All things worked out in the end!

Sam Can[/QUOTE]I am glad you left I had the biggest smile on my face when I read that I thought it was going to end up with 2 hot girls not that haha. Oh and the other place on that corner I actualy almost tried a week ago when I was looking for Buddah. I will deffenently try it and #18 out and walk out if the #10 tattoo lady comes in the door.

[QUOTE=Masslin; 1476719]I think you can search Shanghai happy massage, there are many escort girls who can provide a nice company for you, they are all very professional and know what you like. You can have a try![/QUOTE]I'm not sure how many of them are advertising the real pic. So it would be again trial and error. That's the reason I don't pick from web.

Had few nasty experiences.

hi,

first post. thought i'd share my story. left my hotel, gran melia, and went walking around. deliberately left wallet and cards in hotel, and only had 2k cash and my phone. by the marriott, i was approached by a hot looking girl, who kept following me, even into mcdonalds while i had dinner. then she hailed a cab and i got in figuring what the hell.

i didn't know about this forum, until after, when i searched about what happened to me.

on the way to the place, she was very nice talking about her family, and even showing pictures of them. finally we arrived at what was a seemingly a ktv place, and she led me to a room. there she begged for a drink and the mama too, and finally i relented. the girl left, and the mama brought in six girls, of which i picked number one from nanjing. then she wanted a drink too. while this was going on they brought fruit and nuts into the room too. when nj girl was alone with me she gave me a horrendous hj, while people were coming in and out of the room. when she finished, she said she come back with some towels, but never saw that one again.

two dudes came in next. one was clearly muscle and he actually seemed like he didn't want to be there.

the other guy had an adding machine and he did some sums and presented me a bill for rmb23k. i smelled a setup and stayed calm, though inside i was a cross between shit scared and thinking how can i talk my way out of this one. anyways, i said i don't have that. i only have about 1800, he can have it, as i need at least 100 to get home. he said nope the prices were clearly marked on the table, to which i saw a very faded price list, and sure enough when i did my own sums, it came to that exact 23k figure.

unbelievably, he was trying to make small talk while i was trying to do the sums on my iphone. something about he is a foreigner too, being japanese in shanghai. i didn't care, by then i wanted this all behind me. when i got defensive / adamant about not having the money, he kept saying he was being polite and i was being unnecessarily hostile. by then i was less worried about the muscle, as he didn't say a peep, didn't uncross his arms, and didn't even look up.

finally, after emptying my pockets about 20 minutes of going in circles i had convinced the spiky haired japanese guy that i couldn't pay, but i have an atm card in my hotel. after he went back and forth with the manager, we came to an agreement that i would go back to my hotel, get my card, go to the bank, withdraw 10k, and pay the muscle guy, then i would walk home. no one recognized the gran melia, which i thought was pretty odd.

they sent in another girl, this one was old and ugly. but skinny and dressed like a real ****. so i went to the bathroom while muscle guy waited by the door of the bathroom. on the way out, i paid more attention. i saw several asian men singing with girls of all types passing the various rooms, which were well lit. then i really felt framed. as barely a table lamp was ever turned on in my room. at the front desk, i could see a white guy going through "ok, try this card" process. up the giant spiral staircase to the ground level, where i saw the original girl who took me to that spot. she was laughing with a doorman type, and when she saw me she just kept laughing and talking.

in the cab, i showed my hotel room card but the ugly girl said something in chinese and he said ok. either way we were going back under the water so i felt ok-ish. but when we stopped, there were about six very buffed out men, in "i'm going to kick your ass" black wife beaters. i actually blurted out,"oh shit". i pointed back to my card, and yelled at the driver,"take me here!" he just laughed and the ugly girl paid him. then from what i could gather, she wanted me to go to the convenience store with her, and i noticed the muscly guys had disappeared. by then the original muscle guy was getting irritated by the ugly girl.

by then i left the car because the driver was being a dick just laughing at me. i stepped into the store and the girl was trying to grab my arm. i pulled away and left the shop. back on the street i saw the original muscle guy standing there, and then a cab came going the other direction. i waved him down, and walked casually over to the cab (a van) , and get in and show him the hotel room card. he said ok, and we went away, by then the guy and girl were back outside of the store on the street and started chasing the van on foot. then the driver stopped at the light! i was so livid, but how could he know.

at every light i looked at every cab to see if i can find them. i thought so once but i guess it wasn't. i got back to the gran melia, and made a beeline to my room. when inside i let out a deep sigh. but then i thought, they know where i'm staying so they might be waiting for me later, so i don't know why, but i went to the bank and withdrew the 10k anyways. by then it was 2am, and i went back and slept. the next morning, nothing.

i had a flight in the afternoon after a client meeting, and by the time was through customs i was laughing about it. after all of that, and i was pretty scared then, i got off with only paying the cab fare to the venue. i don't know how it worked out that way, but i felt pretty lucky.

i can attest to the rule: don't go with touts!

be well.

well, its been a nice find after two days of casual chats, references from friends and hotel staff and quite an amount spent on trial.

finally found a chinese girl after few trial and errors. this one is to keep.

this is going to be long. bear with me.

was sure that i'm not going to find anyone in manhattan or judy's and with a dry massage season where i didn't expect anyone with an english skill, i asked few friends and was referred to couple of girls. well, not to take anything from the girls, they were stunners and we met in a starbucks but was turned off by their english skills. since i wanted someone for more than a week, language was a key to decide. i had to say no to these girls. (regret not saying yes for a short time.)

with a sad face, i was in a cab, going past shanghai international convention center. having no where to go, i thought,"if i could find one english speaking girl, it must be here." unfortunately, there was no convention. but that didn't bother group of girls hanging out near the entrance. curious enough, i approached them and was stopped since i was told something in mandarin. do no what that was.

grabbed some beer from family mart near by, i went to my hotel lobby and asked them to send an in-house massage lady. well, a pure traditional massage and nothing else. i said anyone after one hour and went to the room drinking. something went through my mind and i called up the lobby and said "no massage." i didn't know anything else to say. the girl on the other side asked something which i could barely understand. i repeated what i said and kept the phone. wore my boxer shorts, starter taking push ups in the room. (i generally do this to be fit but not a fitness freak.) i was sweating as the ac was off. after around half hour, i hear a knock on the door and i opened it and found a girl at the other end. i thought the receptionist didn't understand and i said "no massage" and tried to close the door. well, she stunned me by saying "i'm not the massage girl" and giggled.

surprised, i asked her who she was and she told me that she manages a massage place (a girl managing?) on some street and was referred by the receptionist friend. i saw that she eyed me. from head to toe. let me say this. i'm an average looking joe. i told her that i didn't want a massage and she asked back, what else i was looking for. everytime, i try to end a conversation, she asks me something and keeps on the conversation. she was beautiful and i was wearing just a boxer and i was growing. before that could turn to an embarassment, i said i will change and was about to close the door, she put her heeled leg between the door and the frame. i was taken a back and didn't know what to do. a guy with no mandarin skill and bringing a girl every alternate day to the same hotel, i didn't know how to react to this move and thought someone from the hotel is playing or going to scam me.

since the hotel has a camera in the corridor, i didn't mind changing to my jean and tee with the door open. she came in and saw three beer cans and stack of condoms. without wasting time, i asked her what she wanted. she said that the receptionist is a friend of hers and she referred and wanted to speak with me. i repeated the same "no massage." she said her name was "liu" and gave her her hand (not like shaking but with palm down. an invitation to kiss it). well, i may be not a chinese and defenitely know that liu can't be her name as i somehow think that its surname. so i asked her real name and she told me it was mei. i took her hand and smelt it and kissed it briefly and told her my name. once i was in my jean, i wore my sneakers and immediately walked out of the room. she followed me out and i closed the door and walked to the elevator. she was walking beside me and i didn't know where to go. i just didn't want to be alone and get scammed. i took the elevator down and to the large lobby and stormed out of the hotel to the open space. the weather was ok in the evening. she asked me where we were going and i said i was taking a walk. she stopped and asked me whether we are going to talk at all or not. this time i can see she was kind of irritated, the smile lost from her face. i turned back and asked her what does she want. she asked me whether we can sit somewhere and talk.

i told her we can go to a starbucks and talk. we walked for a while (brushing against each other) to a nearby starbucks. honestly, she was a sight to behold. a petite girl with her hair done as a large bun and elegantly pulled back to look like a receptionist or an air hostess. a warm smile and a lovely body shown a bit by the choice of skirt and stocking that she choose. i will describe her later. we sat down on a cozy couch with our bodies touching. when something is too good to be true in mongering scene, its always a trap or scam. this one was going in that direction. we ordered cafe mocha and some biscotti and sat down again.

i started with the basics. how did she find me? she was annoyed that she had repeated this many times that the receptionist told her. i asked her what specifically was told to her. and to my amazement, she told me that i was looking for sex and she can provide it. thats nice. i told her that i'm looking for one girl only till the end of the holidays. she was not committing for a week and said, first she needs to get comfy with me and only if the chemistry works out, then she can come with me. she was insisting on short term and i said, i wanted overnight atleast. thankfully, she spoke good english and i was more than happy to negotiate. well, she wanted 2500 for a night. now, i thought this is a buyers market with pickup clubs. i could have easily had 3 viets or someone else from the regular scene. i was willing to shell out 6000 for next ten days on this. and i was not eager to spend all on one night. i said no thanks. now here's the catch she said. if she feels that the chemistry is good and think that i can be like a bf to her, she will spend the next ten days with me for some shopping and feeding! i was dumbfounded. didn't know what to say to this. she was lovely and hot and damn fucking sexy for an average joe like me. i asked her 'why me? ' she said she is not traveling this year and wanted to stay in shanghai. and asked me casually, 'anyway, how lousy can one night get? ' i laughed and decided to take the chance and negotiated that it will be paid in the morning. it was late afternoon and we had all evening. we chatted for a while, normal chat getting to know each other. thankfully we had few common interests in books and music. that was a breadth of fresh air to me. we picked up some more beers, pringles, chocolates and tea from another family mart and went back to the hotel with the receptionist winking at both of us. we went to the room and upon closing the door and hanging the 'do not disturb' card in front, she started to kiss me, it was an awesome kiss. i probed deeper and deeper and she too was matching me every bit by bit. our saliva mixed and we were almost tearing our dresses apart. beneath that beautiful dress lies a great body to adore, admire, enjoy and make love.

normal (small for our size but average for east asia) boobs but perky and round without a sag. she has her nipples pierced and her navel pierced too. stopped to regain our breadth, we laughed and hugged for a bit as i was probing her ass, accentuated by a very high heel she was wearing. i opened couple of beers and gave her one and we took it. i was admiring her body and drinking my beer. i was so curious to know why she does what she does. it was simple. she wants to settle down later but was enjoying her time. thats why she says, she doesn't go out with chinese guys. one for the expat crowd only. elegant, sexy, intelligent and a cocktease. (on another note: i called up the newly mentioned gem in forum and she refused to serve me.)

the deed was awesome for some 20 mins. she is real tight, considering she has boned only expats! it was a sweaty sex and we were starting to stink. unmindful of the fact that i just came in that hole (with a condom, of course) , i went down on her. i think i have never done that. but yea, it was good. never thought about it when i did that. i dint make her cum with my dick but did that with my tongue and fingers!

we were then speaking about other interests and stuff like that. (as i have mentioned in my earlier post, i was in a mood for a companion and not just plain sex). i opened the tub and we were in it for an hour or so, gently washing each other, kissing, groping and drinking. we talked about her limits and what she won't do and what i won't do etc. thankfully, she was open to anal but she has never tried it. so if she refuses in the middle, she wants me to understand it, while shaking my tool with her hand. how can i say no to this, now! we came out and dressed and went out for a quick meal / snack in the nearby hotel.

we decided to drink tonite and started to bar hop for a while. she took me to alleys and small drinking places, i can't even remember. as usual, my jhonny took over and we took a cab to my hotel and started another session. this time i don't remember what happened and even she doesn't! early in the morning i woke up to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and was fucking horny and she was sleeping with her face down. i slowly split her thighs and started to rim and jerk off. she moaned a little and woke up. i asked her to remain as she were. i was giving back something like what i received in my earlier trip to merrilyn. as i was about to cum, i went to her face and asked her for a bj till i came in her mouth.

tired, hungover and spent, i slept off and woke up to a great smell of breakfast ordered from the hotel room service. when the reality struck, i thought my 2500 is gone for couple of shots! gentleman as i was, i took out the money and she stopped saying after a week, with a smile! now, that i didn't expect. i have some cosplay fetish and asked her reluctantly whether she would oblige and she said fucking yes! i took her to shop with me, trying to get her dressed as schoolgirl, maid, cheerleader, nurse, secretary and finally one special thing.

we have decided to stay together till oct 12th, exploring mutual passions, driving around and spending time like real gf / bf.

i'm allowed one pic but will restrain from it.

i once again apologize for being so fucking long. but i think, its worth it.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1476929]I'm not sure how many of them are advertising the real pic. So it would be again trial and error. That's the reason I don't pick from web.

Had few nasty experiences.[/QUOTE]Most massage girls in China don't want to put their real photo on the website because China is actually a typically conservative country, If her genuine photo is observed by a friend, relative even her parents, she will be very embarrassed, her reputation will probably be entirely destroyed. On the other hand, some massage agencies use the fake photos is just for cheating, it may be a scam.

In addition, Happy Massage recently is developing a 'photo verification' function, it may be able to identify whether the photos of the massage girl are real or unreal.

[QUOTE=Jeddah88; 1477182]Hi,

First post. Thought I'd share my story. Left my hotel, Gran Melia, and went walking around. Deliberately left wallet and cards in hotel, and only had 2k cash and my phone. By the Marriott, I was approached by a hot looking girl, who kept following me, even into McDonalds while I had dinner. Then she hailed a cab and I got in figuring what the hell.

I can attest to the rule: don't go with touts!

Be well.[/QUOTE]Brother, first, congratulations on keeping your cool, waiting for an opportunity, and being bold enough to extricate yourself from the situation. Hopefully it will help others to remember the message never to go with (male or female) touts.

[QUOTE=ShHappyMassage; 1477499]Most massage girls in China don't want to put their real photo on the website because China is actually a typically conservative country, If her genuine photo is observed by a friend, relative even her parents, she will be very embarrassed, her reputation will probably be entirely destroyed. On the other hand, some massage agencies use the fake photos is just for cheating, it may be a scam.

In addition, Happy Massage recently is developing a 'photo verification' function, it may be able to identify whether the photos of the massage girl are real or unreal.[/QUOTE]If verification is built, then we know what to expect. So, how will Manhattan and Judy be during the holidays?

I was walking along Loushanguan road in direction Changning road as I saw 2-3 massage shops on the right side of the road. One of them had a board in front of the shop with types of massage and prices. I went in, a lady was at the desk and I asked for "90 min. Paradise bath massage" for 298 rmb. I was brought to the room upstairs. Clean and there was a wooden tub and also a shower there. The ML came in around 30 yo no bad looking, a bit meaty with nice boobs. Wearing a very short dress. She put a plastic foile into the wooden tub and let water in. In the mean time she started to strongly massage my back side. I liked the massage. As the tub was full she asked to go in and started loafing my body. The little brother got a special cleaning by hand. The whole time she didn't say anything and my Mandarin is Zero. After around 25 min in the tub I was lead back to the bed. Dried up by warm towles what I like very much. Again little brothe got special treatment. On the bed again strong back massage. I started touching and cruising and everything was allowed also fingering. After a while I turned on the back and she put off everything. She lied literally on me and started kissing and moving up and dowm, mourning but not too loud. She turned her body so that can start BJ and putting her pussy on my nose more or less. Afterwards we did missionary, doggy till I exploded in her. 90 min were more than over as I left. Very nice experience.

The whole action without saying a lot or better very few words but for sure I ll be back soon.

Returned to Shanghai Hotel last evening to say good- bye to a 'friend' of mine, #25, Tingting, who will leave soon. She is young, has an amazing body (but small tits) and just a wonderful attitude. She asked me to bring her friend along, which normally is not my thing, but I agreed this time. Her friend was #21, Angie. Angie was a bit more chubby than Tingting, but with great tits, so it was good match. She spoke English very well. And, same as Tingting, she had a great and very energetic attitude. I had a great time.

Lev

I just lived out my secretary dream.

I won't trouble everyone with another detailed report. But, it was an amazing experience and a new thrill to have it in your own office.

I have gone to this place before but never gone inside. The girl at the desk has been old, fat or covered in acne. I was always afraid that was the one I was getting. I guess I was wrong!

I have been going to Yuyan place when I wanted to get a quick massage near my hotel. The infamous #18 of Wanhandanglu (or some spelling like that- this is a different #18 of my previous post) has left and gone home to Chengdu to get married. She did refer me and a few others to her sister who works at Beijing lu. When you see her, you can tell they are sisters.

She is girl #10. The massage was 208RMB. She has a nice body (8) , breasts slightly bigger than the normal small breasted China girl. Much bigger than her sister's little strawberries. I saw her twice alone and once with another girl (story to follow). Her massage is ok but ask for the hard one. She really can't do a good softsensual massage. She allowed full touching. At one point, I sat up on the bed and held and kissed both breasts while she stood there and stroked me. She also offered to give me the finger up the butt if you were interested. She asked for a "small tip" but did not say how much. I gave her 120rmb (which is what I gave her sister incase she was comparing notes) and she was happy with that. I am sure the rest of you mongers could get away with 100rmb. She speaks very good English, was friendly and willing. Not the prettiest (face 6) but one to visit where you know what you are going to get. She does not think she gets enough business, so I think that is an opportunity for us to get a good relationship with her. As she is not the prettiest, she is probably not chosen as much.

After my double phoenix bust in my other post, I wanted a 2 girl massage. I went back and asked the guy at the desk. He thought I wanted 2 girls for 208 and said no. After I got through I would pay 416, he went to ask the girls. #10 and #8 came running. #10 recognized me from the last 2 stops. I had 2 girls giving me a massage, fingering both at the same time while face down. On the flip, they both let me undo their bras, kiss breasts. I fingered #8 and kissed her breasts while #10 did the HJ. #8 got really wet and was into it. #10 told me she was horny because she had not seen her husband back in the home city for a while. They were both great play toys. The did not have a good routine together, but were willing to do what I wanted and willing to please. I probably over tipped but it was excellent service and I had a lot of fun.

The place is 24X7 so anytime is good. I was pretty drunk another time at 4am after cruising Manhattans and Judy's. I stopped off at 1810 Beijing lu on the way back. I got #12. She was very pretty and a nice body. She told me she was willing to do a 3some with #1. #12 is probably an 8 overall. (remember I was drunk, so let me know if the beer goggles were on LOL). She was good, same routine. She would not budge off a 200rmb tip. I think being 4am and me smelling like 10 beers didn't help. She allowed full touching, kissing her breasts and all. Her massage was better than the other girls.

Bottom, line, lot's of good girls here, massages are not bad priced, starting to be my favorite place after Changping lu and #18. There is probably a CBJ or BBBJ with one of these girls but I never got around to it.

One other thing, not all the doors lock. If that is important to you (it is to me) , make sure you ask on the way in or point to the door when you get in the room.

The owner of Beijing lu is also the owner of Yuyan lu and Wanhangdang Lu. All are 24X7. All do HJ.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1477878]I have gone to this place before but never gone inside. The girl at the desk has been old, fat or covered in acne. I was always afraid that was the one I was getting. I guess I was wrong!

The place is 24X7 so anytime is good. I was pretty drunk another time at 4am after cruising Manhattans and Judy's. I stopped off at 1810 Beijing lu on the way back. I got #12. She was very pretty and a nice body. She told me she was willing to do a 3some with #1. #12 is probably an 8 overall. (remember I was drunk, so let me know if the beer goggles were on LOL). She was good, same routine. She would not budge off a 200rmb tip. I think being 4am and me smelling like 10 beers didn't help. She allowed full touching, kissing her breasts and all. Her massage was better than the other girls.[/QUOTE]Sam, will she do outcall for a night? I already have one and would love a threesome.

Did you get full service for only 298, or did she ask for a tip? Please go back and write down the street address and be sure to get her worker number. Otherwise your post is no helpful.

BJ.

I was walking along Loushanguan road in direction Changning road as I saw 2-3 massage shops on the right side of the road. One of them had a board in front of the shop with types of massage and prices. I went in, a lady was at the desk and I asked for "90 min. Paradise bath massage" for 298 rmb. I was brought to the room upstairs. Clean and there was a wooden tub and also a shower there. The ML came in around 30 yo no bad looking, a bit meaty with nice boobs. Wearing a very short dress. She put a plastic foile into the wooden tub and let water in. In the mean time she started to strongly massage my back side. I liked the massage. As the tub was full she asked to go in and started loafing my body. The little brother got a special cleaning by hand. The whole time she didn't say anything and my Mandarin is Zero. After around 25 min in the tub I was lead back to the bed. Dried up by warm towles what I like very much. Again little brothe got special treatment. On the bed again strong back massage. I started touching and cruising and everything was allowed also fingering. After a while I turned on the back and she put off everything. She lied literally on me and started kissing and moving up and dowm, mourning but not too loud. She turned her body so that can start BJ and putting her pussy on my nose more or less. Afterwards we did missionary, doggy till I exploded in her. 90 min were more than over as I left. Very nice experience.

The whole action without saying a lot or better very few words but for sure I ll be back soon.[/QUOTE]

This is my first good KTV experience.

My companion for next two weeks went to take her luggage so that she can move in with me. She stays in Qibao and I'm in Pudong. Quite a distance.

Went to a KTV 77something in Dongfang Lu to just spend sometime till she is back.

Cozy club. The guy was very accomodative as there was no crowd when I went in. The girls speak zero English. One actually spoke some broken English.

Spent some awesome two hours.

Downside: No girl wanted to come back to the room. Probably because my lack of Mandarin. Not sure about the reason.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1477771]I just lived out my secretary dream.

I won't trouble everyone with another detailed report. But, it was an amazing experience and a new thrill to have it in your own office.[/QUOTE]Did you actually do it with your secretary or did you hire / ask a girl to dress in an OL costume and act it out in your office?

That is a huge difference.

There is a modern Chinese proverb: For whatever reason, the Chinese characters are not displaying correctly.
(Loose translation: Let your secretary do the work, and when there is no work then you do her.)

[QUOTE=Carage; 1478062]Did you actually do it with your secretary or did you hire / ask a girl to dress in an OL costume and act it out in your office?

That is a huge difference.

There is a modern Chinese proverb: For whatever reason, the Chinese characters are not displaying correctly.

(Loose translation: Let your secretary do the work, and when there is no work then you do her.) [/QUOTE]Not with my real secretary. Its with a companion in my office.

Bros,

There are so many of them in Chinese cities. From reading reports, I know they are girl-friendly (why not? After all, they began by catering to middle class Chinese businessmen) but on the hotel search engines, they are more expensive than the average IBIS? Are they better in quality?

Since I come from overseas, I always pre-book my hotels because I have the fear of being over-charged if I just walk in without a reservation. Am I doing it wrong in China?

Oh, to you guys who always use the Hiltons and Marriotts who think I am cheap, please know that I don't travel on business, just to tour and play. So yes, I have a budget.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

SamCan,

Can you be more specific? Is it Beijing East or West Road? What is the cross road? Sorry for the request but if I go to the wrong MP, I will get the wrong girl. Thanks.

I will be in Shanghai in 4 weeks. I can't wait. Thank you for all the wonderful posts.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1477878]I have gone to this place before but never gone inside. The girl at the desk has been old, fat or covered in acne. I was always afraid that was the one I was getting. I guess I was wrong!

I have been going to Yuyan place when I wanted to get a quick massage near my hotel. The infamous #18 of Wanhandanglu (or some spelling like that- this is a different #18 of my previous post) has left and gone home to Chengdu to get married. She did refer me and a few others to her sister who works at Beijing lu. When you see her, you can tell they are sisters.

She is girl #10. The massage was 208RMB. She has a nice body (8) , breasts slightly bigger than the normal small breasted China girl. Much bigger than her sister's little strawberries. I saw her twice alone and once with another girl (story to follow). Her massage is ok but ask for the hard one. She really can't do a good softsensual massage. She allowed full touching. At one point, I sat up on the bed and held and kissed both breasts while she stood there and stroked me. She also offered to give me the finger up the butt if you were interested. She asked for a "small tip" but did not say how much. I gave her 120rmb (which is what I gave her sister incase she was comparing notes) and she was happy with that. I am sure the rest of you mongers could get away with 100rmb. She speaks very good English, was friendly and willing. Not the prettiest (face 6) but one to visit where you know what you are going to get. She does not think she gets enough business, so I think that is an opportunity for us to get a good relationship with her. As she is not the prettiest, she is probably not chosen as much.

After my double phoenix bust in my other post, I wanted a 2 girl massage. I went back and asked the guy at the desk. He thought I wanted 2 girls for 208 and said no. After I got through I would pay 416, he went to ask the girls. #10 and #8 came running. #10 recognized me from the last 2 stops. I had 2 girls giving me a massage, fingering both at the same time while face down. On the flip, they both let me undo their bras, kiss breasts. I fingered #8 and kissed her breasts while #10 did the HJ. #8 got really wet and was into it. #10 told me she was horny because she had not seen her husband back in the home city for a while. They were both great play toys. The did not have a good routine together, but were willing to do what I wanted and willing to please. I probably over tipped but it was excellent service and I had a lot of fun.

The place is 24X7 so anytime is good. I was pretty drunk another time at 4am after cruising Manhattans and Judy's. I stopped off at 1810 Beijing lu on the way back. I got #12. She was very pretty and a nice body. She told me she was willing to do a 3some with #1. #12 is probably an 8 overall. (remember I was drunk, so let me know if the beer goggles were on LOL). She was good, same routine. She would not budge off a 200rmb tip. I think being 4am and me smelling like 10 beers didn't help. She allowed full touching, kissing her breasts and all. Her massage was better than the other girls.

Bottom, line, lot's of good girls here, massages are not bad priced, starting to be my favorite place after Changping lu and #18. There is probably a CBJ or BBBJ with one of these girls but I never got around to it.

One other thing, not all the doors lock. If that is important to you (it is to me) , make sure you ask on the way in or point to the door when you get in the room.

The owner of Beijing lu is also the owner of Yuyan lu and Wanhangdang Lu. All are 24X7. All do HJ.[/QUOTE]

Hi Sarawak,

Can you be more specific with the address of the massage shop, at least the cross road would be fine. Will like to go there.

Indian.

[QUOTE=Sarawak50; 1477666]I was walking along Loushanguan road in direction Changning road as I saw 2-3 massage shops on the right side of the road. One of them had a board in front of the shop with types of massage and prices. I went in, a lady was at the desk and I asked for "90 min. Paradise bath massage" for 298 rmb. I was brought to the room upstairs. Clean and there was a wooden tub and also a shower there. The ML came in around 30 yo no bad looking, a bit meaty with nice boobs. Wearing a very short dress. She put a plastic foile into the wooden tub and let water in. In the mean time she started to strongly massage my back side. I liked the massage. As the tub was full she asked to go in and started loafing my body. The little brother got a special cleaning by hand. The whole time she didn't say anything and my Mandarin is Zero. After around 25 min in the tub I was lead back to the bed. Dried up by warm towles what I like very much. Again little brothe got special treatment. On the bed again strong back massage. I started touching and cruising and everything was allowed also fingering. After a while I turned on the back and she put off everything. She lied literally on me and started kissing and moving up and dowm, mourning but not too loud. She turned her body so that can start BJ and putting her pussy on my nose more or less. Afterwards we did missionary, doggy till I exploded in her. 90 min were more than over as I left. Very nice experience.

The whole action without saying a lot or better very few words but for sure I ll be back soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1478197]SamCan,

Can you be more specific? Is it Beijing East or West Road? What is the cross road? Sorry for the request but if I go to the wrong MP, I will get the wrong girl. Thanks.

I will be in Shanghai in 4 weeks. I can't wait. Thank you for all the wonderful posts.[/QUOTE]Near the Jing Ann temple

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1478154]Bros,

There are so many of them in Chinese cities. From reading reports, I know they are girl-friendly (why not? After all, they began by catering to middle class Chinese businessmen) but on the hotel search engines, they are more expensive than the average IBIS? Are they better in quality?

Since I come from overseas, I always pre-book my hotels because I have the fear of being over-charged if I just walk in without a reservation. Am I doing it wrong in China?

Oh, to you guys who always use the Hiltons and Marriotts who think I am cheap, please know that I don't travel on business, just to tour and play. So yes, I have a budget.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've stayed in a couple, comparable to Ibis I suppose, nothing special. Of course girl-friendly, the Jin Jiang Group is one of many PLA enterprises!

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1478154]Bros,

There are so many of them in Chinese cities. From reading reports, I know they are girl-friendly (why not? After all, they began by catering to middle class Chinese businessmen) but on the hotel search engines, they are more expensive than the average IBIS? Are they better in quality?

Since I come from overseas, I always pre-book my hotels because I have the fear of being over-charged if I just walk in without a reservation. Am I doing it wrong in China?

Oh, to you guys who always use the Hiltons and Marriotts who think I am cheap, please know that I don't travel on business, just to tour and play. So yes, I have a budget.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]At the end of a stay in a hotel in Shanghai, I wanted to book a room for a couple of weeks later, but they told me that the only way to get the same low price wasto book from internet as I did in the first place.

I use ctrip to book my hotels, and I alway pay less than what is advertised in the hotel,(it may be different in smaller towns).

I travel for fun, so I also have a budget.

Just a curious, random question for those that go to saunas and can also speak Mandarin: Do you try to make small talk with the girls? I usually try to start a conversation as they are giving me a shower or the nuru massage, just small talk, as I find it kind of awkward if it's just complete silence. And since the massage can go on for 15-30 minutes, it ends up being fairly in-depth sometimes.

Invariably, the conversation delves into where they are from, why they are working there, the working conditions, etc, and it's always just really depressing."I'm from Dongbei, I'm here to make money to send back to my parents, I never leave the sauna because I'm not allowed to, and I work 7 days a week without a break; I haven't seen daylight in two weeks."

Also, funny that every single girl I ask has only worked at the sauna for "one month". Obviously when the massage stops and the action begins, the talk changes, but the initial small talk is always tricky and ends up making me feel sorry for the girl.

That said, I feel like I've learned some interested random tidbits by talking to them (though who knows if they are telling the truth, obviously). One place I frequent says that they have to pay the cops 60% of all earnings. The actual sauna only gets 40. Another said that sometimes when laowai customers come, any girl who does not want to service a laowai doesn't actually have to go to the lineup. Which is interesting, because it means that Laowais are not getting the actual full selection of what's available.

[QUOTE=Optional; 1478365]Another said that sometimes when laowai customers come, any girl who does not want to service a laowai doesn't actually have to go to the lineup. Which is interesting, because it means that Laowais are not getting the actual full selection of what's available.[/QUOTE]I am quite surprised with this: from my own experience and other reports published here, it is not rare that the girls in the lineup just try to show a very low interest, like if they knew that this is for a laowai and that they would prefer not to be chosen. If they had the choice, why lining up an discourage the Laowai to select them?

[QUOTE=Optional; 1478365]Just a curious, random question for those that go to saunas and can also speak Mandarin: Do you try to make small talk with the girls? I usually try to start a conversation as they are giving me a shower or the nuru massage, just small talk, as I find it kind of awkward if it's just complete silence. And since the massage can go on for 15-30 minutes, it ends up being fairly in-depth sometimes.

Invariably, the conversation delves into where they are from, why they are working there, the working conditions, etc, and it's always just really depressing."I'm from Dongbei, I'm here to make money to send back to my parents, I never leave the sauna because I'm not allowed to, and I work 7 days a week without a break; I haven't seen daylight in two weeks."

Also, funny that every single girl I ask has only worked at the sauna for "one month". Obviously when the massage stops and the action begins, the talk changes, but the initial small talk is always tricky and ends up making me feel sorry for the girl.

That said, I feel like I've learned some interested random tidbits by talking to them (though who knows if they are telling the truth, obviously). One place I frequent says that they have to pay the cops 60% of all earnings. The actual sauna only gets 40. Another said that sometimes when laowai customers come, any girl who does not want to service a laowai doesn't actually have to go to the lineup. Which is interesting, because it means that Laowais are not getting the actual full selection of what's available.[/QUOTE]My experience is MPS not saunas but it is similar. If you are attracted to them, they will be attracted to you and have a sick mother. If you would give them 20, 000 RMB mother would be able to get her surgery.

I also find when you go to Manhattans all the Viet girls have been in Shanghai for "2 days" LOL

[QUOTE=Optional; 1478365]Just a curious, random question for those that go to saunas and can also speak Mandarin: Do you try to make small talk with the girls? I usually try to start a conversation as they are giving me a shower or the nuru massage, just small talk, as I find it kind of awkward if it's just complete silence. And since the massage can go on for 15-30 minutes, it ends up being fairly in-depth sometimes.

Invariably, the conversation delves into where they are from, why they are working there, the working conditions, etc, and it's always just really depressing."I'm from Dongbei, I'm here to make money to send back to my parents, I never leave the sauna because I'm not allowed to, and I work 7 days a week without a break; I haven't seen daylight in two weeks."

Also, funny that every single girl I ask has only worked at the sauna for "one month". Obviously when the massage stops and the action begins, the talk changes, but the initial small talk is always tricky and ends up making me feel sorry for the girl.

That said, I feel like I've learned some interested random tidbits by talking to them (though who knows if they are telling the truth, obviously). One place I frequent says that they have to pay the cops 60% of all earnings. The actual sauna only gets 40. Another said that sometimes when laowai customers come, any girl who does not want to service a laowai doesn't actually have to go to the lineup. Which is interesting, because it means that Laowais are not getting the actual full selection of what's available.[/QUOTE]I always have some kind of conversation, it helps to build a connection. As you say, the stories are usually pretty similar but I've met some interesting girls with great attitudes and built a lot of respect for the ones who make the best of their situation. The good ones know how much talk is enough.

[QUOTE=Optional; 1478365]Just a curious, random question for those that go to saunas and can also speak Mandarin: Do you try to make small talk with the girls? I usually try to start a conversation as they are giving me a shower or the nuru massage, just small talk, as I find it kind of awkward if it's just complete silence. And since the massage can go on for 15-30 minutes, it ends up being fairly in-depth sometimes.

Invariably, the conversation delves into where they are from, why they are working there, the working conditions, etc, and it's always just really depressing."I'm from Dongbei, I'm here to make money to send back to my parents, I never leave the sauna because I'm not allowed to, and I work 7 days a week without a break; I haven't seen daylight in two weeks."

Also, funny that every single girl I ask has only worked at the sauna for "one month". Obviously when the massage stops and the action begins, the talk changes, but the initial small talk is always tricky and ends up making me feel sorry for the girl.

That said, I feel like I've learned some interested random tidbits by talking to them (though who knows if they are telling the truth, obviously). One place I frequent says that they have to pay the cops 60% of all earnings. The actual sauna only gets 40. Another said that sometimes when laowai customers come, any girl who does not want to service a laowai doesn't actually have to go to the lineup. Which is interesting, because it means that Laowais are not getting the actual full selection of what's available.[/QUOTE]I talk to them all the time too, and I get a lot of sob stories, but I also met many who actually try to make the most out of it.

But I have never heard of any girls being confined to the saunas.

I've even received invitations via text message like 2AM in the morning asking if I am willing to join them for hotpot after their shift ends.

So after a week of HJs in Shanghai, I wanted a good nice veggie massage. (No HJ / BJ, just massage). In the alley next to the shanghai Hilton (on Huashan lu, not the Hongqiao one), there are 3 places. JB massage is not the cleanest, Royal Massage definitely does not do veggie! I have been there before but that is another report. The last one is called Animate! I have been told before they don't do HJ. There are about 5 girls there. They are in long pants with pink polo shirts. Some have shorts on but nothing provocative. Massage is 179 so I figure what the heck.

I go in, the girls are on a rotation. They tell me the fat one (and I mean fat even by laowai standards) is up. I say no way. I choose a girl. She is a cute spinner. Just my type. She asked if I want 2 girls. (her and the fat one). Again, no way.

The rooms are clean, no showers. There are 3-4 different rooms. 4-5 beds in a room with curtains between them. There is no one in the room with us.... I doubt there ever is.....She leaves, I put on the disposable shorts. She pulls the curtain. There is no one in the room. She comes back. Gives a really decent massage (not great but better than the HJ girls). She gets to the butt massage and it is way too erotic. I know where this is going! Ohhhh what the heck. She starts stroking the little guy while I am on my stomach. On the flip, we start talking about "the tip" she wants 300rmb. I start to pull the shorts up. She tells me slow down. Drops the price to 200, then 100.

She has pants on. Allows me to hold her breasts. I didn't try to kiss them or pull down her pants. I think I could have gotten a little more if I tried. The HJ was decent followed by a chest massage. She tells me they will come to the hotel for 269RMB which is something to consider. There are 4-5 different girls there so you could probably choose from.

Beijing Lu (last post) in my opinion wins over this one for the same price range / tip but if you are looking for something different, it is worth a shot.

So I've been in Shanghai for just over a week now and I thought I'd give a trip report of my adventures so far. I'm typing this on my phone so excuse the brevity and any spelling errors.

First night I was looking for something close and easy so I decided to try a massage place on the se corner of Yuanshen lu and Yushan lu. There's 2 shops right next to each other, I went to the one with the masseuses in the black. 320 for 90 minutes (mistake 1). Ages looked like mid 20s. Early / mid 30s. I went around 9pm. Part 1 was average and forgetable. Part 2 started out ok, we said it would be a small tip but no specifics (mistake 2) , her skill was quite good I'll give her that. I assumed (mistake 3) since the massage price was relatively expensive the tip for HJ would only be 100 so I asked if 200 would be enough for a BJ. Her attitude changed quickly and said she charged 200 for HJ and 500 for bm. Yeah right! I then told her I only had 500 on me (small lie hehe) and then she wanted me to use my credit card. As if lady! And so the half hearted HJ continued with clothes left on. Eventually time was coming to a close and faced with the prospect of "only" 180 tip she agreed to undo her bra for 50 more and some under the skirt but over the panties action. Boy when she's motivated agree really good with her hand! Popped quite quickly for 550 total and feeling ripped off.

Next I decided for wham ba m thank you maam type action from the above websites:

1. Fangcao Lu (Beicai district, south of Century Park) Went at night, thought lots of the barbershops looked legit and with a bunch of males so didn't go in. The ones with women lounging around were either older and completely unattractive or tired looking so after walking up and down the street I decided to move on. Maybe I went at a bad time?

4. Yinghua Lu (Century Park) Much better girls. Went straight after fangcao lu and saw someone I wanted in the second shop! Went in and asked for the price before selecting the girl (mistake 4). They told me to ask again after choosing the girl, did so and was quoted 300 with BBBJ included. Very cute girl, early 20s but looked like she had a kid from the scar on her stomach. Some quick but nice BBBJ then off to the races. Started with cg but she quickly got tired, then we moved to her on her back, legs on my shoulders while I'm standing up (don't want to lie on the bed too long). She was making some really nice noises, fake but nice, and soon I wanted to come! Managed to control myself and moved to doggie on the couch. Popped after mushing her face into the couch with my thrusting. Overall much nicer for only 300. Maybe 25 minutes from entering the shop. After leaving decided to check out three rest of the street, they have about 6-7 shops with some super cute girls so planned to try them again.

Came back again after a few days, this time walking the whole street before choosing. Saw the first chick again so maybe she works every day? Ended up with a shop towards the west end of the street, walked in like I knew what I was doing, picked the girl and walked to the back. Was told 200 for FS and BJ (I look Chinese). When I took off my pants and saw my trimmed Bush she questioned if I was a foreigner and after realising my mandarin was terrible became cross and accusing me of tricking her, saying the laowai price was 300 and wanted meto pay that! Had to compromise for 250 but time was almost up and she was still angry for but getting the Laowai price. Only did mish for a few minutes before popping, she couldn't wait til I was done and left in a huff. Cute girl, atrocious attitude. Should've paid the Laowai price after all!

2. Yinshan Lu (Jingqiao) Went during the day around 2. 30pm, old, fat, ugly, no thanks. Maybe bad timing?

3. Eshan Lu (West of Century Park) Went during the day around 3pm, quality not quite yinghua lu levels but good enough for me (I'm mid 20s if that helps). Picked a small spinner type, viet looking but nice. Again some scarring on her stomach and this hd some not great small tits. Started in doggie, great ass, used my thumb to rub her backdoor with no complaints, didn't price further though. Wanted to pop. Moved to mish, really wanted to pop, finally moved to me standing again with her ass hanging over the bed for some serious pounding and popped. If you'll notice no BJ this time as they don't seem to do a good job anyway. Total damage 150 for 15-20 minutes, not bad.

Thats it for now, any questions let me know. Unfortunately don't know any of the girls names so can't help you there. Will be around for another few days and will try out Eshan and Yinghua again. Any pudong mongers know any other good bbs streets?

[QUOTE=Skepti10;1478698]So I've been in Shanghai for just over a week now and I thought I'd give a trip report of my adventures so far. I'm typing this on my phone so excuse the brevity and any spelling errors.[/QUOTE]Since you are near Century park, there is one more to avoid. This is on the end of Fushan Lu. They have a massage place in the 2nd floor and have just 3 girls to select from. But pathetic service. Just FYI.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1478611]So after a week of HJs in Shanghai, I wanted a good nice veggie massage. (No HJ / BJ, just massage). In the alley next to the shanghai Hilton (on Huashan lu, not the Hongqiao one) , there are 3 places. JB massage is not the cleanest, Royal Massage definitely does not do veggie! I have been there before but that is another report. The last one is called Animate! I have been told before they don't do HJ. There are about 5 girls there. They are in long pants with pink polo shirts. Some have shorts on but nothing provocative. Massage is 179 so I figure what the heck.

I go in, the girls are on a rotation. They tell me the fat one (and I mean fat even by laowai standards) is up. I say no way. I choose a girl. She is a cute spinner. Just my type. She asked if I want 2 girls. (her and the fat one). Again, no way.

Beijing Lu (last post) in my opinion wins over this one for the same price range / tip but if you are looking for something different, it is worth a shot.[/QUOTE]A hotel on weifang Lu on the way from Century Avenue metro towards Yuanshen stadium has Congen massage. It was awesome. Never went wrong. Went there today with my companion and though there were less staff, nothing to complain.

[QUOTE=Hind31;1478752]A hotel on weifang Lu on the way from Century Avenue metro towards Yuanshen stadium has Congen massage. It was awesome. Never went wrong. Went there today with my companion and though there were less staff, nothing to complain.[/QUOTE]From my experience with Congen Massage, they give a decent albeit expensive massage with NO "extra services", and generally the staff is not appealing to start with.

It is a great place to get a relaxing massage if you are willing to spend 500 to 600RMB, but you would have to go elsewhere to relieve your sexual urges.

Carage. Actually, you're right none of the sauna girls have said they were confined, but nearly all of the massage girls (like the ones at the Buddha place) have told me they aren't really allowed to leave.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1478476]I talk to them all the time too, and I get a lot of sob stories, but I also met many who actually try to make the most out of it.

But I have never heard of any girls being confined to the saunas.

I've even received invitations via text message like 2AM in the morning asking if I am willing to join them for hotpot after their shift ends.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Carage; 1478873]From my experience with Congen Massage, they give a decent albeit expensive massage with NO "extra services", and generally the staff is not appealing to start with.

It is a great place to get a relaxing massage if you are willing to spend 500 to 600RMB, but you would have to go elsewhere to relieve your sexual urges.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Hind31;1478751]Since you are near Century park, there is one more to avoid. This is on the end of Fushan Lu. They have a massage place in the 2nd floor and have just 3 girls to select from. But pathetic service. Just FYI.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommadation! There're two Congen Massage on Wei Fang Lu, bros who want to get the good massage.

[QUOTE=Skepti10; 1478698]So I've been in Shanghai for just over a week now and I thought I'd give a trip report of my adventures so far. I'm typing this on my phone so excuse the brevity and any spelling errors.

Other-general-info/

Thats it for now, any questions let me know. Unfortunately don't know any of the girls names so can't help you there. Will be around for another few days and will try out Eshan and Yinghua again. Any pudong mongers know any other good bbs streets?[/QUOTE]This one is not bbs. But I think you must have already read the forum enough to know what it is. Try it out. But not sure how the lineup will be this time of the year. It will be around 800.

From my limited experience, holidays are not best time to monger in this city!

There is one more thing about Congen I forgot to mention.

They have a rating system for their staff starting at 3 star, 5 star, and goes up to 7 star.

The service gets more expensive by the star level you select which supposedly indicates skill level but chances are it just reflects seniority.

A 3 star masseuse is typically a trainee who just started, and the 7 star would very likely be an older guy.

(They call them Laoshifu or Old Teacher, who might actually be certified to practice Chinese Medicine)

Just keep that in mind, I know many guys who don't like to be touched by male masseuses even when they are not expecting a happy ending.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1478922]There is one more thing about Congen I forgot to mention.

They have a rating system for their staff starting at 3 star. 5 star, and goes up to 7 star.

The service gets more expensive by the star level you select which supposedly indicates skill level but chances are it just reflects seniority.

A 3 star masseuse is typically a trainee who just started, and the 7 star would very likely be an older guy.

(They call them Laoshifu or Old Teacher, who might actually be certified to practice Chinese Medicine)

Just keep that in mind, I know many guys who don't like to be touched by male masseuses even when they are not expecting a happy ending.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience when I first visited them.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1478922]There is one more thing about Congen I forgot to mention.

They have a rating system for their staff starting at 3 star. 5 star, and goes up to 7 star.

Just keep that in mind, I know many guys who don't like to be touched by male masseuses even when they are not expecting a happy ending.[/QUOTE]I went a couple of time to the one close to Nanjing donglu station: they always asked me if I wanted a man or a woman.

And the 7 star masseuses are really really good.

I recommend the place, at least as an alibi: nobody would believe that your never tried massage in Shanghai, so you need a legit address.

Hi Guys,

Will any of these places be open tonite? Just wanted to try 3some. Have one for the fortnight but looking for one more.

Called up all the outcall service and no one responded positively!

[QUOTE=Pit Shang; 1479012]I went a couple of time to the one close to Nanjing donglu station: they always asked me if I wanted a man or a woman.

And the 7 star masseuses are really really good.

I recommend the place, at least as an alibi: nobody would believe that your never tried massagein Shanghai, so you need a legit address.[/QUOTE]I feel no difference between the 5 star and 7 star service, but maybe that is just me.

But I would agree Congen is indeed one of the better places to get a legit massage in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1478913]This one is not bbs. But I think you must have already read the forum enough to know what it is. Try it out. But not sure how the lineup will be this time of the year. It will be around 800.

From my limited experience, holidays are not best time to monger in this city![/QUOTE]Unfortunately I have a pretty limited mongering budget for this trip, hence all the bbs! And yes I've read all about bodi. 999, sacrosa, etc so maybe next time.

I might use some non mongering funds to try out congen though. Does anyone have an approximate price for their services?

Generally I stay on the other side of the river. This time I am at the Westin Hotel at the bund on the Huangpu area. Looking for clean, safe massage place. No Crappy BBS but a nice place with a line up not too far from my hotel. Please give me advice. No interested in Manhattans or other clubs. What a simple 90 minute experience.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Skepti10; 1479241]Unfortunately I have a pretty limited mongering budget for this trip, hence all the bbs! And yes I've read all about bodi. 999, sacrosa, etc so maybe next time.

I might use some non mongering funds to try out congen though. Does anyone have an approximate price for their services?[/QUOTE]They are pretty expensive. 400-900 rmb.

[QUOTE=Doley91; 1479254]Generally I stay on the other side of the river. This time I am at the Westin Hotel at the bund on the Huangpu area. Looking for clean, safe massage place. No Crappy BBS but a nice place with a line up not too far from my hotel. Please give me advice. No interested in Manhattans or other clubs. What a simple 90 minute experience.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi,

You can try Top Sauna club at the Huaihai Middle road.

It's about 500m-1km from the Line one metro. Or you can take the cab. It must be ok to good depending on your expectations. But at this time of the year, lineup will be difficult.

I have a free morning and most of the afternoon tomorrow, anyone know when these bbs shops open? Want to get an early start and possibly a 2nd pop!

[QUOTE=Skepti10;1479468]I have a free morning and most of the afternoon tomorrow, anyone know when these bbs shops open? Want to get an early start and possibly a 2nd pop![/QUOTE]Most of these places don't start till noon, because the girls probably go to sleep like 4AM.

[QUOTE=Hind31; 1479085]Hi Guys,

Will any of these places be open tonite? Just wanted to try 3some. Have one for the fortnight but looking for one more.

Called up all the outcall service and no one responded positively![/QUOTE]I think they are both open every night. I could be wrong.

Everyone is big on Manhattan and it is probably the best. Judy's I noticed had a two hot black girls. One exotic and skinny. They other had the booty. Both from Africa.

My advice is to avoid a threesome in Shanghai. You will easily find two at Manhattan. I have done it before. They seem to just like to have a friend with. Its not a real bi sexual type thing. And its going to be expensive.

Another 141 xpost from yesterday:

Today I checked out the bbs on Zhengli road, went back to Yinghua as well as scouting out another posters info on lanhua and dujuan road.

First Zhengli. Get off the train at Jiangwan town station, exit out of the east side exits, walk north to Zhengli road and head east. The shops are on the north side of the street. Now the reports I've read about this was over a year old so there was a chance of a ghost town, and yes, the reported 10-15 bbs with kpop level girls no longer seems to be true. Although this could be because I was there in broad daylight. Left the station at about 1. 30pm and a lot of the shops were either closed, doors chained, security gate locked or some combination of the 3. The ones that were open were either old (30+) or just plain fat (american level fat!). I walked east on zhengli, south on jipu road (nothing) , north on guoquan north (2 open, see previous ugly / fat) , then west on sanmen road (not much, road has too much foot traffic I think, good noodles though). Had some noodles to kill tyre time and walked back to zhengli for more lookers around 2. 30-2. 45. This time one of the eastern end bbs had some reasonable young girls, best of which was a 7 in my eyes. Told myself I'd go back for her if I find nothingels but as I walked to the station I began fantasizing about the yinghua girls so off I went. Verdict: walked past too early, should go 4pm at the earliest I think but only worth a visit if you're nearby far and too far for me to visit again.

Take the train to Longyang station, exit number 8 or 9 to check out the 3 streets. Arrived around 4pm.

Lanhua: could only find a massage type place and there was a curtain so I couldn't judge level of talent. Pricesa the door were average, sub 200 for Chinese massage, didn't go in. Street is full of automotive and bike repair shops. Seems like a complete bust.

Yinghua: walked from west to east and saw construction going on so I thought for a second the shops might be closed. How silly am I? Of course soon I saw the usual kpop girls with heavy makeup. Ah feeling like home by now haha. Walked the whole street, nice looking girls with solid number of customers. The locals agree with me on the talent it seems! But for the sake of you lovely perverts I went to check out Dujuan road before succumbing to my baser urges. More on this later.

Dujuan: from the intersection of Baiyang road its only a stones throw away from the 4-5 available bbs on tyre north side of the street (south side is a park or something). The great thing about this street is all the shops are niched together so you can compare quite easily. Looks wise a small step below yinghua but above everywhere else. Girls available, lots of makeup. More on this later as well.

Back to Yinghua. By now I've realised if I want anything close to the local price the trick was for me not talk so much! Walk in, choose a girl (ni lai ba), walk to the room (duo shao? Yi bai wu quan tao?) , agree on price (incidentally since the BBBJ only lasts a minute or so the budget punter should forgo this option and get straight toit). Chose another pretty girl with red / maroon hair. Got her undressed and wow! This one shaves! Theres a small patch above but the pussy itself is clean! If this wasn't a bbs place I would love to go to town on that thing (not to mention her nice B titties with pinkish nipples and pink ahole too! I had no idea China had these sort of girls too! Started with 30s of cg, I tried to move her hair out of the way so I could see her face but she cried for me not to touch her hair! Guess she just had it done haha. Moved to standing mish over the bed and she warned me I would cum too soon and the view was damn good. Got very close to popping but held on and changed to doggie. She didn't like this and complained I wanted to change positions to much. Getting a little annoyed now. But luckily the view was so good I didn't even last another minute. Paid the 150 and off I went. BTW this was the best body I've seen this trip. Off I went to dinner!

After dinner and some rest back I came! Wanted to sample dujuan road. Came by around 9. 30pm and tried a small skinny girl. Same price as before, no BBBJ this time either. Started in mish, moved to doggie for 5 minutes of non stop pump, no pop. Moved to my trip fav standing mish, another couple of minutes pumping, still nothing. We're almost at 20 minutes now, and she hasn't said a word about hurrying up, but I'm tired of doing the work so I have her finish me off by hand while I'm massaging her taint! Nice. This girl wasn't add good as thepreviou one, but very small waist, nice ass, awesome view in doggie with her figure. She had a trim downstairs too, in fact her Bush was trimmed in the shape of a heart! She def needed to smile more though!

And here I am now, tired after a long day of walking and. Other things. Some points to note. I've seen local guys take these bbs girls out for takeaway then bringing them back after its over. If you're fluent in mandarin and don't want the dirty in shop conditions then this may be an option. And it looks like three local guys scout these places on their scooter, very clever, cover more shops easily! And then there's the option for takeaway! Finally I've noticed the service level for these girls are little to none so if you want good service, GFE or high quality pse then bbs are not for you. In fact, given the girls don't shower between clients I would strongly suggest no kissing, licking any part of them (unless you like a weird spot like behind the knees or something) and definitely no DATY. But if you are on a budget, aren't too fussy about rooms, and just want a quick 15-30 min romp before you get on with your day (or to end your day on a good note!) Then bbs are a great way to do it.

I'm down to my last 150, good enough for one more visit before heading to BKK where I'll have much more money to enjoy myself!

One more trip to Yinghua is in order I think! I had planned on getting a photo of one of these girls but as soon as I walk in my big head stops working haha!

Hi.

Will be in Shanghai in 2 weeks. Looking for a recommendation for full service or spa in the Caohejing Development Zone. Yishan Road area. Any recommendations? Typically stay at Warner Hotel.

You can PM me if prefered. Will report!

Thanks,

Will

[QUOTE=Willa1; 1480408]Hi.

Will be in Shanghai in 2 weeks. Looking for a recommendation for full service or spa in the Caohejing Development Zone. Yishan Road area. Any recommendations? Typically stay at Warner Hotel.

You can PM me if prefered. Will report!

Thanks,

Will[/QUOTE]Bro, I didn't find one inside the zone. But you can try 999 Jiu Yuan Club. It must be around 5km from the zone. You can read the forum for the reviews of various people.

[QUOTE=Willa1; 1480408]Hi.

Will be in Shanghai in 2 weeks. Looking for a recommendation for full service or spa in the Caohejing Development Zone. Yishan Road area. Any recommendations? Typically stay at Warner Hotel.

You can PM me if prefered. Will report!

Thanks,

Will[/QUOTE]According to Google Maps, Xinyuping Sauna is practically right across the street to the hotel.

I've never been there, but I have heard stories that they have a huge lineup but wait time is also very long.

1733 Lian Hua Lu&8206;

Min Hang Qu, Shanghai, China. 201103

I don't have experience with either of these but it looks like there are 2 more very close to your hotel.

New Jade Screen Sauna Clubhouse

On Yishan Lu at Lianshan Lu.

Smart Hero Sauna Club.

On Caoboa Lu.

I hope you have a good experience and will report back.

[QUOTE=Willa1; 1480408]Hi.

Will be in Shanghai in 2 weeks. Looking for a recommendation for full service or spa in the Caohejing Development Zone. Yishan Road area. Any recommendations? Typically stay at Warner Hotel.

You can PM me if prefered. Will report!

Thanks,

Will[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Doitunderwater; 1480828]I don't have experience with either of these but it looks like there are 2 more very close to your hotel.

New Jade Screen Sauna Clubhouse

On Yishan Lu at Lianshan Lu.

Smart Hero Sauna Club.

On Caoboa Lu.

I hope you have a good experience and will report back.[/QUOTE]New Jade Screen is Xinyuping.

I'm staying in Hongkou district till sat 10/12 if anyone is interested in trying Heting Elite Spa, let me know. Also was wondering if line up will improve after this national holiday and recent personal experience of this place.

[QUOTE=AzianExpress;1480945]I'm staying in Hongkou district till sat 10/12 if anyone is interested in trying Heting Elite Spa, let me know. Also was wondering if line up will improve after this national holiday and recent personal experience of this place.[/QUOTE]I like this place. Suggest you go early if you can. It's open from 10am. Recently had a line up of about 12, although there was only one that I liked. But she was well worth it. Nice rooms, polite staff and in my opinion very good service.

TM

[QUOTE=Trawlerman; 1481066]I like this place. Suggest you go early if you can. It's open from 10am. Recently had a line up of about 12, although there was only one that I liked. But she was well worth it. Nice rooms, polite staff and in my opinion very good service.

TM[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response Trawlerman,

If you happen to remember, can you tell me the price for full service, amount of time given, how many pops, what number girl you suggest, and best time to go.

Thanks in advance.

Hey guys,

I just had a very awkward experience in the massage parlour in my hotel trying to ask if they offered any 'additional' services. Of course since I don't speak much Mandarin and they don't speak much English I wasn't sure what I was getting so I ended up walking away. Does anyone know a polite euphemistic phrase one can ask, or do you just pop a boner while she's massaging you?

[QUOTE=Doitunderwater; 1480828]I don't have experience with either of these but it looks like there are 2 more very close to your hotel.

New Jade Screen Sauna Clubhouse

On Yishan Lu at Lianshan Lu.

Smart Hero Sauna Club.

On Caoboa Lu.

I hope you have a good experience and will report back.[/QUOTE]Thanks to all for your help. Will report back as soon as I return on the 29th.

Will

You could try Xiao Jie An Mo (pronounced moa) &23567; &22992; &25353; &25705; &12290; Xiao Jie means young lady, or miss, but in northern China it can mean "prostitute" I asked for this in a town near Suzhou and they sent me exactly what I was looking for. Learn as much of the language as you can. It's always gets better results. Fun for you. Fun for them. Learn the pinyin and you can start texting in Chinese with the many translation devices.

BJ.

Coming and going here for 7 years.

Subscribe and you can get private messages from the brothers.

Hey guys,

I just had a very awkward experience in the massage parlour in my hotel trying to ask if they offered any 'additional' services. Of course since I don't speak much Mandarin and they don't speak much English I wasn't sure what I was getting so I ended up walking away. Does anyone know a polite euphemistic phrase one can ask, or do you just pop a boner while she's massaging you?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XtlpX; 1481224]Hey guys,

I just had a very awkward experience in the massage parlour in my hotel trying to ask if they offered any 'additional' services. Of course since I don't speak much Mandarin and they don't speak much English I wasn't sure what I was getting so I ended up walking away. Does anyone know a polite euphemistic phrase one can ask, or do you just pop a boner while she's massaging you?[/QUOTE]BJ is right, learning the language is the best thing. It is much easier than you think. You can also say "special massage". Anywhere I have been, the girls understand. Only problem is it gets you only a HJ (or BJ if you get the right girl and point to your mouth).

Why are you trying to get this at a hotel anyway? Read the forums. I just posted 4 good HJ / BJ options in the last couple pages. Others are posting good sauna experiences. Copy and paste the best ones to a word document. Print it out and take it with you. That is what I do.

This forum and google maps is all I need.

BTW, Hotels are the wrong place to go. Too expensive at a top hotel. I had a Chinese girlfriend for the better part of 2 years. She was hot and worked massage at the renaissance hotel in Hongqiao. She could get the guys to pay her 1000RMB for a HJ. She would tell them hotels are more expensive and she was breaking the rules and could lose her job. They had to pay more. And they did.

While she was out at work, I was at Changping LU with #18 getting a 200RMB BJ!

Hi SamCan,

How do you pronounce "special massage" in Mandarin? Thanks all for these helpful tips. Will be in Shanghai in about 2 weeks and looking forward to it.

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1481569]Hi SamCan,

How do you pronounce "special massage" in Mandarin? Thanks all for these helpful tips. Will be in Shanghai in about 2 weeks and looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]You can say it in English "special massage" . Sex also works if you are looking for that.

For mandarin.

If you want make love say "Zoe eye" (phonetically)

If you want HJ DAH FAY JEE.

Look in the forum section for Chinese words. There is more

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1481679]You can say it in English "special massage". Sex also works if you are looking for that.

For mandarin.

If you want make love say "Zoe eye" (phonetically)

If you want HJ DAH FAY JEE.

Look in the forum section for Chinese words. There is more[/QUOTE]The polite phrase to use in my neck of the woods, Pudong, Weifang Lu, Laoshan Lu etc. Is "Tebie Anmo" the girls will often say "Tips!" Please note these terms are usually NOT mentioned at the front desk!

Fz

[QUOTE=AzianExpress; 1481152]Thanks for your response Trawlerman,

If you happen to remember, can you tell me the price for full service, amount of time given, how many pops, what number girl you suggest, and best time to go.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Went to check out Heting Elite spa on 777 siping lu and only a bank and restaurant named Xin Nan hua. Could not see anything indicating a spa. Left very disappointed.

[QUOTE=AzianExpress;1481909]. Went to check out Heting Elite spa on 777 siping lu and only a bank and restaurant named Xin Nan hua. Could not see anything indicating a spa. Left very disappointed.[/QUOTE]Hi, AzianExpress. Heting Elite Spa and the restaurant are both in the same building. You can enter the gate shown in the pic and go upstairs to the third floor. The spa is right there.

[QUOTE=Masslin; 1482111]Hi, AzianExpress. Heting Elite Spa and the restaurant are both in the same building. You can enter the gate shown in the pic and go upstairs to the third floor. The spa is right there. Also, you may refer to the map in the following.[/QUOTE]Made visit today and found the spot. Price is on the high side, but well worth it.

Thanks

Hi,

I am new to this, and am visiting Shanghai this week. I am hoping for some tips on a good place to go for FS near the downtown area. I am close to the bund / people's park / Ninjang. I have been looking through this thread, but haven't seen much right near there. I could also go for someone who comes to me, if they are trustworthy. Thank you for the help.

Hellow fellow enthusiasts,

Haven't been to Shanghai for 5 years, Seems like most of the reviews are in the usual places like Hailang, Heting.

Has anyone been fortunate enough to experience the following places?

1. Xin Yuping (New Jade Screen) 1733 Lianhua Road, Minhang District.

2. Yuquan Pattaya Business Chamber ( 389, Zhaojiabang Road, Xuhui District )

3. Jun Hao Sauna ( Longming Lu No. 2131, Minhang district.)

Used to relish the red rope experience in old yuping, the 2nd and 3rd place appears to offer role playing experiences.

Thanks

Hello,

I wonder if anyone here has tried Cathy ([url]http://cathybeauty.wix.com/cathy[/url]) and would be able to share some information? She's not cheap and I'd like to make sure she's worth it before getting in touch.

I have an overnight layover in Shanghai, never been to the city before and considering my layover is not that long I will probably not venture into the city. Does anyone know if the hotels around the airport are girl friendly and will girls make the trip out there? Been looking at a lot of different services but most of the pictures I assume are fake, can any recommend some good services where I can check the girls out before ordering as I like to know what I am getting so not to be disappointed.

Has anybody seen the news report on BBC News?

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-24497577[/url]

This is exactly the kind of report that might mess things up. Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=Smorb27; 1483254]Hello,

I wonder if anyone here has tried Cathy (

[url]http://cathybeauty.wix.com/cathy[/url]

) and would be able to share some information? She's not cheap and I'd like to make sure she's worth it before getting in touch.[/QUOTE]She is no beauty queen, pretty short, but still, quite cute, in her end 20ies, begin 30ies. Petite, small tits, round butt. She is VERY service-oriented and eager to please, and everything is on the menu. Turn-off: she thinks she has to add some "dirty talk" to it, and she basically does not stop. I don't know how often I had to hear her saying "kiss my nipples!".

Lev

SamCan sent a good report on the MP on Beijing Street #1808 in Jingan. I second his report about #10 there. Sam, I and others liked her younger sister the ex#18, who after 6 years there left to get married and pregnant. 10 speaks good English and will ask if you want a hard or soft massage. I chose hard and she delivered. Sweet girl, one year into the business there. Her little sister set the bar high for quality HE. I'll be checking out #8 there soon. Am interested in any reports on #8 or #12.

BJ

[QUOTE=Phuquer; 1483441]Has anybody seen the news report on BBC News?

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-24497577[/url]

This is exactly the kind of report that might mess things up. Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]This report, in my opinion, will have no impact. It is the oldest profession known to woman, and to man.

Long may the free market determine consumption and expenditure (of course, disavowing under-age prostitution, and exploitation).

Enjoy and report.

P13.

Had a very successful trip to Shanghai recently, which included a trip to Pattaya, so prompted by Mrpatsfan's question, I thought I'd write it up.

Pattaya Sauna, girl 965, slim, cute face, and a wizard with the cat bath. Often, this part of a sauna experience is poorly executed, but this girl really knew what she was doing and had me so excited that I just wanted her to continue and then BBBJ and CIM. We didn't even fuck, but it was still up there as one of my most memorable sauna experiences. The place would be very hard to find without the descriptions in this forum. You go down an alley, turn right and into what looks to be a covered car park, before emerging in an open parking area, surrounded by romanesque statues. The whole place has a feel of faded gradeur, with the classical theme repeated inside, wide staircases, but a lift that takes ages to go up two floors and rather crappy little rooms. In fact my only real complaint was the size of the room, which was barely big enough to hold the bed.

Buddha massage place. I was not expecting much from this place since it is all too easy for a massage + HE, or in this case BBBJ to be done with a rather clinical attitude. But not at all. My girl. And I forget her number, sorry, was warm and sexy and made the whole thing very enjoyable. She had very good legs, which helped to get things started for me, as I looked at then caressed the tops of her thighs and ass as she was massaging my shoulders.

Heting Elite Sauna, girl 125, an absolute angel. 20 yo, petite with a cute face and adorable soft young, but ever so slightly pointed breasts. I have been to Heting many times, although not recently, and always received good service, but very much according to plan. Which is fine, and this is what I was expecting. But this time, my girl was just GFE all the way. We kissed, made out, sucking, licking and fucking with passion. And she was very curious and chatty, in a nice way.

Would definitely repeat all three.

TM

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1483562]This report, in my opinion, will have no impact. It is the oldest profession known to woman, and to man.

Long may the free market determine consumption and expenditure (of course, disavowing under-age prostitution, and exploitation).

Enjoy and report.

P13.[/QUOTE]Agreed, little or no impact. The hotels have the 'sauna is a separate company' firewall, which will serve them well. Worst case the sauna will close for a bit, then reopen (offering the exact same services) under different management. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Guys-you all know I introduced Cathy to this site. I was her first "official " customers-talked her into website etc. Levitan is pretty close, but I think she is cute, she is just new to this-but "very" is important-there is no bull shit with her-no upsell like others. No running around bars looking. Just tell her not to talk too much when she does in a polite manner-tell her what you like and she will please you. She is a GFE experience. Like I said above I personally like her because of the no bull shit attitude. After a few girls upsell and fake pictures etc-you kind of get burned out.but this is not the case with Cathy.

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1483453]She is no beauty queen, pretty short, but still, quite cute, in her end 20ies, begin 30ies. Petite, small tits, round butt. She is VERY service-oriented and eager to please, and everything is on the menu. Turn-off: she thinks she has to add some "dirty talk" to it, and she basically does not stop. I don't know how often I had to hear her saying "kiss my nipples!".

Lev[/QUOTE]

I can only second Marty. She is really GF, bright and fun to be with. Sure she talks and also wants her share of fun, I just love it!

Luckily. See the title.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1483612]Guys-you all know I introduced Cathy to this site. I was her first "official " customers-talked her into website etc. Levitan is pretty close, but I think she is cute, she is just new to this-but "very" is important-there is no bull shit with her-no upsell like others. No running around bars looking. Just tell her not to talk too much when she does in a polite manner-tell her what you like and she will please you. She is a GFE experience. Like I said above I personally like her because of the no bull shit attitude. After a few girls upsell and fake pictures etc-you kind of get burned out.but this is not the case with Cathy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smorb27; 1483254]Hello,

I wonder if anyone here has tried Cathy ([url]http://cathybeauty.wix.com/cathy[/url]) and would be able to share some information? She's not cheap and I'd like to make sure she's worth it before getting in touch.[/QUOTE]It seems that many guys like her, but she is asking a lot of money, I think.

In Paris (France) , I find many independent cute and GFE girls asking about the same amount of money.

And if you really want a Chinese woman, you would only pay 100€ (say 1200 RMB) for one hour, negociable.

It seems that Shanghai is becoming really expensive for FS, and that only legit massages are worth the trip (in Paris, good massages are almost as expensive as FS).

I have been staying and Shanghai for over 9 years, over the past 5 years or so I have grown pretty attached to Helen and friends along with of course the usual Manhattan or Judy's bar cronies. I know will have to stay for a week or 2 in Kunshan at the end of the month. Anyone have any experience? I prefer the outcall to my hotel. I am staying at the Swissotel, is this girl friendly?

Sorry for all the questions, just want to do my due diligence before leaving.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1483587]Agreed, little or no impact. The hotels have the 'sauna is a separate company' firewall, which will serve them well. Worst case the sauna will close for a bit, then reopen (offering the exact same services) under different management. Lather, rinse, repeat.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it won't impact those that are there for the long haul, but those of us that are just passing through might find Shanghai (or any city for that matter) a very boring place if all the saunas and massage places are temporarily closed while we are there due to a temporary crackdown.

Didn't mean to bore you. Just posting what I saw.

[QUOTE=Money11; 1483668]I have been staying and Shanghai for over 9 years, over the past 5 years or so I have grown pretty attached to Helen and friends along with of course the usual Manhattan or Judy's bar cronies. I know will have to stay for a week or 2 in Kunshan at the end of the month. Anyone have any experience? I prefer the outcall to my hotel. I am staying at the Swissotel, is this girl friendly?

Sorry for all the questions, just want to do my due diligence before leaving[/QUOTE]What's the deal with this place? Some of the girls look really cute, is it full service or just HJ? What kind of costs are we talking here?

[QUOTE=Mike921;1483587]Agreed, little or no impact. The hotels have the 'sauna is a separate company' firewall, which will serve them well. Worst case the sauna will close for a bit, then reopen (offering the exact same services) under different management. Lather, rinse, repeat.[/QUOTE]That depends, I recall the Hilton in Chongqing was busted and shutdown for awhile allegedly for activities of the "club".

Although upon later reflection it could have more to do with the political fight between Prince Bo and Ex-Police Chief Wen Qiang.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1483562]This report, in my opinion, will have no impact. It is the oldest profession known to woman, and to man.

Long may the free market determine consumption and expenditure (of course, disavowing under-age prostitution, and exploitation).

Enjoy and report.

P13.[/QUOTE]Its a story that the Journalist could easily file. Papers, and of course TV News need several elements to sell. Sex, drugs, corruption, murder, deceit. In this case the story had 3 of the 5 elements and the journalist got paid.

Was it of public interest. A very thin maybe. As Pushkin13 said, its the oldest known profession. Prostitutes had to pay 8 asses (monetary unit) a month in Palmyra to the Roman Tax collector about 2000 years ago.

But if enough public pressure gets put on International chains, then we will see the ease of access reduce, and will have to go further afield than the hotel basement for a punt

Hi all,

Sorry to be the guy that registers only for their first post to be a plea for help, but I could use some!

I'm staying in Pudong in Shanghai (Marriott Pudong East) for two weeks for work, and was hoping to go out and do some mongering. Unfortunately I've read enough (maybe too much) about horror stories etc. 23K bills and the like, so I'm maybe a little too cautious, and it screwed me over tonight (I think).

I'm interested in going to a BBS, as I really don't want to start with a spa first, as I'd rather deal with the not-so-nice before the nice, otherwise I doubt I'll go to a BBS at all. I read a report that there were a few places on the northern side of Yinshan Road, next to the largeish hotel, so thought I'd try there.

After a whole load of reading I thought I was ready, only left the hotel with 300 yuan, no wallet, no phone etc.

I'll detail my night briefly, I left my hotel at 7:30PM to go and get some condoms from the family mart just down the road (no idea if the BBS places supply them, but thought I'd be safe) , was planning on heading out to Yinshan Road after this, but needed to take a leak so made my way back to the hotel. On the way back I was approached by a tout offering sexy ladies etc, and politely declined and he walked off. Hurrah. Continued back to the hotel, and saw a few massage / spa places on the way back, namely a Congen, Shannana, and Bamboo7. After the tout I put my thoughts of a BBS aside, as I figured there'd be less chance of getting scammed at a spa, but upon doing some reading it didn't appear any of these places offered what I was after. So I committed myself to going to Yinshan Road. I wandered back out of the hotel, heading towards Yinshan Road.

Upon arriving, I walked on the Southern end of the street, keeping an eye on the northern end for the BBSs, about half way down I saw a few of the barbershop spinny-pole-things and thought I'd finally found them, but from a distance all I could see was guys. And they were actually cutting hair (nothing like the frosted windows / women on couches I'd been told to expect). I continued down to the end of the street heading towards Yunshan road, and saw a few other places that looked hopeful, but again didn't resemble the picture I had in my mind, one had a whole load of clothes for sale, and the other was empty.

I crossed the street to the northern side, and walked back the opposite way, heading towards Zaozhuang Road, I took a closer look at the places that caught my eye the first time, but upon closer inspection I was no more convinced. I eventually got near Zaozhuang and saw 3-4 girls on a couch in a shop, but no signs of anything spinning, and the writing on the store indicated it was a massage place. Not a BBS, also it was right next to a Harley bike store, which was filled with a whole load of guys that could very easily be considered "muscle", so I skipped this. I patrolled up and down the northern end of the street twice more, and didn't get any obvious invitations in from anyone, so I headed back to the hotel, defeated.

I'm 22, so I was wondering if they may have thought I looked a bit young, but I'm really not sure.

I'm 100% happy to report back if I manage to get something, but at the moment I'm a little defeated. I'd really like somewhere in walking distance of my hotel, so I can escape if necessary and know where I need to run to.

So a TL; DR, are there any BBS's near Marriott Pudong East? Is Yinshan Road still a goer? Why do (what I think are) BBS places no longer look like BBS's?

Any help is appreciated.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484052]Hi all,

Sorry to be the guy that registers only for their first post to be a plea for help, but I could use some!

I'm staying in Pudong in Shanghai (Marriott Pudong East) for two weeks for work, and was hoping to go out and do some mongering. Unfortunately I've read enough (maybe too much) about horror stories etc. 23K bills and the like, so I'm maybe a[/QUOTE]Hmmm, only 1 post, LE fishing (they should know about all the places anyway)? Who knows. Anyway, on Yinshan Road I would say there are probably more MPs than BBSs, and the BBSs you need to look a little harder to find. Just search the forum for Jinqao, you should find something.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1484114]Hmmm, only 1 post, LE fishing (they should know about all the places anyway)? Who knows. Anyway, on Yinshan Road I would say there are probably more MPs than BBSs, and the BBSs you need to look a little harder to find. Just search the forum for Jinqao, you should find something.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mike,

I'm tempted to go try my luck again tonight, but I'd really like FS and don't want the dramas of having to convince one of the girls in a MP to oblige, once I've done this a few more times I'm sure I'll enjoy the thrill of the chase more.

I done a search of the forum, and found some comments about Jintai road (and Yintai Road. Which I couldn't find) , is it worth trying here? Appreciate your need for suspicion, but I'm sure LE know where all these places are (I don't though.).

There was a MP place behind a garden-ish thing where Yinshan Road meets Zaozhuang Road (on the north side) , along with some BBS-ish places, are any of them BBS's? They don't have the BBS spinny-things that I was told to expect so I'm not sure, alternatively, are the ones on Jintai Road a bit more visible?

To be honest (if it wasn't obvious) , this is my first time dabbling in this kind of thing, so I'm probably a lot more cautious than I need to be, I don't speak a shred of Mandarin, which is adding to my paranoia, perhaps I should just skip the BBS and try find a spa instead? I kinda want to go from a BBS to a MP to a spa though, as I think it'll make the spa seem amazing, though this could just be me being weird.

Okay so I actually have something to report now!

Sorry for the long story, but I feel like I should share in case anyone is in the same position as I was and is unsure, even despite the large amount of knowledge you can gain from the site.

I wandered off to Jintai Road tonight at around 18:45, got there by about 19:05, I walked from the Zaozhuang Road end of the road towards the other end, on the Southern end of the street, all the shops are on the Northern end, so I thought I'd scout from afar.

I found (I think) four BBSs on the street, all in the half closest to Zaozhuang Road. There was no frosted glass, or barber-spinny pole things, but it was pretty obvious what they were, absolutely no signs at all, but 6-8 girls in each (in the two near the middle of the street anyway) , all sitting around, super dressed up and caked in makeup. The ones closest to Zaozhuang Road looked pretty unspectacular. 2-3 girls in each, with a guy sitting in the room with them, so I thought I'd avoid those.

The two mentioned above (with the 6-8 girls) are closish to the middle of the street (on the Northern side) , probably a bit closer to the Zaozhuang Road end, there's only 2-3 shops separating them, a quite long cigarette shop, and a dry cleaner which is a bit smaller, the other one looked like a bike repair shop.

I found a place to scope out these two, as the large majority of the girls in both shops were 7+, I leant against one of the iron fences on the side of the footpath, so I had a pretty good view of both shops, and then just waited. I wanted to see someone else go in first, as I was still pretty paranoid, pretty much no action for 30-40 minutes, and I'm starting to get a bit restless, and then a van rolls up (quite a busy street so this isn't really abnormal) , and a guy pulls out a washing basket full of high heel shoes? He then takes these into the shop on the right, and the girls start trying them on, they swap around a few (couldn't see whether money exchanged hands) , and then the guy takes the basket, goes back to the van, and then drives the 3-4 metres to the next shop and repeats, I have no idea what this was about.

After another 5 or so minutes, a guy walks into the shop on the right, and the girls all start taking turns lining up against the back door and he takes their photo? Initially I thought the guy was a cop or something (he had a jacket with a badge on it) , again no idea what this was about. Eventually he left, and the first real customer arrived! He walks in and one of the girls stand up, they talk for a bit, and then he goes into the back room with her, this happened quite a few times, but I never saw the guy come out afterwards (the girl would reappear after 10 mins or so) , eventually they did though, and I saw one of the girls slipping some 100 yuan notes into her purse, and redoing her makeup. So by this point I'm convinced this place is legit. I have no idea how many rooms are in the back though, so I'm keeping count of how many guys have gone in vs came out, I found out later that there was 4-5 rooms.

I then spent the next 15-20 minutes trying to pluck up enough courage to walk into the store, whilst keeping an eye out for cops (did I mention I was paranoid?). I decide that when the next guy comes out of the back area I'm going for it. He does about 5 mins later, so I walk up and open the door, I can't even imagine what I looked like (deer in the headlights seems like an apt metaphor though) , none of the girls knew a lot of English. I basically asked if white was okay (as I'm a westerner) , and didn't really get a response, then one of the girls says something that sounds like "5 mins" and puts up 5 fingers, I take this to mean that all the back rooms are full (even though I just saw a guy walk out) , so I get ready to head out and wait, but then she changes it to "4 mins" and holds up 4 fingers. I clicked after about 5 seconds of them having no idea what I'm saying, and them having no idea what I'm saying, they were actually talking price.

I asked for 200, and was countered with 300, I pushed for 200 again but was told no, so I relented. This honestly felt like a job interview, there were about 6 girls in the front area, and all of them are staring at me like I'm an alien, and I want desperately to get into the back room. Only 3 of them were talking to me though, the others just stared. Anyway, they then asked for the money up front, which I was quite wary of, I said they could have it after, but again they persisted. I only had 500 on me (100 in each shoe. LOL!) .200 in one pocket, and 100 in another. I pulled out the three hundred from my pockets and handed it over to the girl that was doing most of the negotiating, she was a solid 7-8 so I was more than happy to have her. She was also wearing a nurses uniform, which I didn't really notice till we were in the back room.

I get lead to the back hall way, and see there's 4-5 doors in it, we pass the first one with a single bed, and she leads me into the second one with a double bed. As expected these places aren't hotel rooms, there were a few boxes in the one I was in, but there was aircon, and it wasn't "shit" by any standards. She runs off down the hall and comes back with a bag, that contains condoms / a plastic bag / lube / wet wipes. We then get down to business. Of note though, as I'm taking one of my shoes off, the 100 yuan note falls to the floor (I don't notice this) , she actually stops me, points to the 100 yuan note, says "you dropped" and lets me pick it up before we continue. This wasn't what I'd expected at all. Anyway, I get a HJ until I'm sporting a semi, and then she tries to stick the condom on, and the condom is preeeeetty small. She's very careful about getting it on properly, which I took to be a good sign (no way in hell I'm bare backing her) , she then gives my a brief covered BJ, before sitting on the bed. I haven't had sex with a condom for a loooong time, so the sensation took a bit to get used to, a couple of times I started to go soft so she had to give me a HJ for a bit, the small condom isn't helping things either. The girl is pretty good though, granted I've got nothing to compare her to as far as bought sex goes, but she was pretty into it. After about 20 minutes I finish up, and she quickly gets dressed and ducks out of the room as I start putting my pants on. Just as I'm finishing putting my shoes on, she opens the door, says "bye bye" in the cutest voice imaginable, and guides me to the front room, I quickly walk out, and start on my way home.

I'm going to go back tomorrow and try a different girl, there was one there that was a 9-10, so I'm going to see if I can get her.

Hopefully this helps someone else, thanks Mike for the advice.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484455]Thanks Mike,

I'm tempted to go try my luck again tonight, but I'd really like FS and don't want the dramas of having to convince one of the girls in a MP to oblige, once I've done this a few more times I'm sure I'll enjoy the thrill of the chase more.

I done a search of the forum, and found some comments about Jintai road (and Yintai Road. Which I couldn't find) , is it worth trying here? Appreciate your need for suspicion, but I'm sure LE know where all these places are (I don't though.).

There was a MP place behind a garden-ish thing where Yinshan Road meets Zaozhuang Road (on the north side) , along with some BBS-ish places, are any of them BBS's? They don't have the BBS spinny-things that I was told to expect so I'm not sure, alternatively, are the ones on Jintai Road a bit more visible?

To be honest (if it wasn't obvious) , this is my first time dabbling in this kind of thing, so I'm probably a lot more cautious than I need to be, I don't speak a shred of Mandarin, which is adding to my paranoia, perhaps I should just skip the BBS and try find a spa instead? I kinda want to go from a BBS to a MP to a spa though, as I think it'll make the spa seem amazing, though this could just be me being weird.[/QUOTE]Hey Blueteeth,

Welcome to Shanghai. It can definitely be intimidating the first time you arrive here. I can remember my first visits back in 2005, did not know what I was doing at all, but the forum here held a lot of insights and led me to many nice spas with red rope (ribbon) service. If you can't find BBS's close to your hotel you should not deprive yourself. Just jump into the spas.

For BBS's close to you, I guess you'll need to get details from mongers on Pudong side. If, however, you happen to find yourself on Puxi side in Hongmei Lu area there are some BBS's around there. One particular intersection. Hongzhong Road and Chengjiaqiao Branch road. Within about 50-100 meters of that intersection there are about 3-4 BBSs that are used to seeing westerners (at least there were a year ago when I still lived in area).

Here is googlemaps coordinates (LE FOR SURE knows of these places. They are massively obvious)

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=31.183944[/url].121. 381635&num=1&t=m&z=18.

I am 99. 99% sure there are similar areas in Pudong, just don't know where. Dig around, it may be hidden in all of the posts.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484455]Thanks Mike,

I'm tempted to go try my luck again tonight, but I'd really like FS and don't want the dramas of having to convince one of the girls in a MP to oblige, once I've done this a few more times I'm sure I'll enjoy the thrill of the chase more.

I done a search of the forum, and found some comments about Jintai road (and Yintai Road. Which I couldn't find) , is it worth trying here? Appreciate your need for suspicion, but I'm sure LE know where all these places are (I don't though.).

There was a MP place behind a garden-ish thing where Yinshan Road meets Zaozhuang Road (on the north side) , along with some BBS-ish places, are any of them BBS's? They don't have the BBS spinny-things that I was told to expect so I'm not sure, alternatively, are the ones on Jintai Road a bit more visible?

To be honest (if it wasn't obvious) , this is my first time dabbling in this kind of thing, so I'm probably a lot more cautious than I need to be, I don't speak a shred of Mandarin, which is adding to my paranoia, perhaps I should just skip the BBS and try find a spa instead? I kinda want to go from a BBS to a MP to a spa though, as I think it'll make the spa seem amazing, though this could just be me being weird.[/QUOTE]You're right, the barber pole (spinny thing) isn't always present at a BBS.

Some BBS and MP on Yinshan Road are obscured by foliage, so if you're re-coning from the opposite side of the street you may not see them.

To go to Jintai Road, when you're walking to Yinshan Road, don't turn, keep walking straight on Zaozhuang Road and make the next right onto Jintai Road, the BBS will (mostly) be on your left). Those BBS are VERY visible. If you want a true down market experience, continue on Jintai and make a right one block before Jinqiao Road (sorry, I don't know the street name, but the location is very clear on Google Map). Work your way back in the neighborhood and you will see many BBS. It's easier to do at night as the lights (and the girls saying 'hello' and knocking on the windows) will guide you to the BBS's.

Remember to walk in like you own the joint and don't be afraid to walk out if the price doesn't suit you. Happy Hunting!

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484501]Okay so I actually have something to report now!

I then spent the next 15-20 minutes trying to pluck up enough courage to walk into the store, whilst keeping an eye out for cops (did I mention I was paranoid?).[/QUOTE]If the money isn't an issue, you should probably just go to one of the saunas listed on here. It's all on automatic so all you have to do is follow somebody with a headset around until there's a bunch of girls lined up and choose the best one. At a sauna, it's over an hour of service, it's usually a pretty clean room with a big shower and a soapy slip and slide along with the FS you will get on the bed.

Thanks for the detailed recon report Trawlerman, sounds like a really unique place.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1484612]You're right, the barber pole (spinny thing) isn't always present at a BBS.

Some BBS and MP on Yinshan Road are obscured by foliage, so if you're re-coning from the opposite side of the street you may not see them.

To go to Jintai Road, when you're walking to Yinshan Road, don't turn, keep walking straight on Zaozhuang Road and make the next right onto Jintai Road, the BBS will (mostly) be on your left). Those BBS are VERY visible. If you want a true down market experience, continue on Jintai and make a right one block before Jinqiao Road (sorry, I don't know the street name, but the location is very clear on Google Map). Work your way back in the neighborhood and you will see many BBS. It's easier to do at night as the lights (and the girls saying 'hello' and knocking on the windows) will guide you to the BBS's.

Remember to walk in like you own the joint and don't be afraid to walk out if the price doesn't suit you. Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]Went out a bit later tonight, about 9ish, and spent 20 minutes trying to find somewhere to take a leak, I used this time to take a look down the road you mentioned, one block away from Jinqiao Road, and I couldn't find anything. The street had a big lit up red arch over it, and had a Garden something hotel on it (can't remember the exact name, was about half way down on the left). I got to the end of the street without even a hint of a BBS, and had the option of going left or right, I ventured right for a bit, but the street looked pretty bare, no lights or anything, so I turned back. By this time I'm busting to take leak so I walked back to the other end of Jintai Road, and found somewhere. I then went back to the middle of the street on the Southern end and checked out the girls in the two BBSs I talked about earlier. The one on the right was still a winner for me, so I walked up (even walked in at the same time as someone else, oh how my balls have grown). Was much less awkward this time, but I didn't get the choice of picking, as the girl from last night stood up immediately and pointed to the back door. I had a brief look around before deciding it wasn't worth the hassle of trying to sort out another girl (the other ones were on par if not worse than mine. The 10er wasn't there.). I followed her into a secret-ish room behind a book case on the left side of the hall, the other ones on the right of the hall all had their doors closed, so I assume they were in use. A girl was sleeping on the bed in the room we went into, so I think it's their "break" room. The girl gets up pretty groggily and leaves after putting her shoes on (not before I got a glimpse under her skirt though.) , and I start getting undressed immediately. No BJ this time, covered or not, which was a bit disheartening, though I did get to pay after this time. 300 as last time. On a brighter note I made her do some work this time, she rode me for about 10 minutes near the end before I popped.

Now that I've been before, the surreal-ness of it passed and I was able to take in a few more things. First of all the moaning from the girl was a little bit superficial, she was moaning while giving me a HJ at the start, which I didn't really notice last time. She also moaned pretty much the whole time, which was quite a turn on at first, but got a little bit boring near the end.

About half way through while doing missionary, I went to rub her clit, and was shooed away by her hand, so I can see what was said earlier is quite true, the places on Jintai Road are all business.

Ideally I'd like to find a different place next time, the benefits of going back to the same place are good, there's no real awkwardness when I walk in, I was muuuuch more confident this time, and I don't really need to negotiate price (I'd prefer to pay 200, but for the sake of not having to stand in the first room for long periods. The extra 100 is worth it). The cons are I think it's going to be much harder to get a different girl there, as the one I've been with twice seems to think I'm hers, unless it was just coincidental and it was her turn at the plate. Also I'd like a bit more freedom, not being able to touch anything was a bit of a disappointment, her tits seemed within bounds, but anything below was made very clear was a no-go. That and I don't like my chances of getting a BBBJ, or anal, which I'd like to try (maybe the anal at a BBS is not going to happen anywhere, but it won't stop me from trying).

All in all a successful night, I think I enjoyed it more this time as the nerves were gone, but as above it made me more aware of things that I didn't like.

On a side note, where's the closest (decent) sauna near Jinqiao? All the ones posted here seem to be across the river, and I've quite taken to walking places, as I get a bit of exercise while I'm at it, which is a win win.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth;1484937]On a side note, where's the closest (decent) sauna near Jinqiao? All the ones posted here seem to be across the river, and I've quite taken to walking places, as I get a bit of exercise while I'm at it, which is a win win.[/QUOTE]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484937].

Ideally I'd like to find a different place next time, the benefits of going back to the same place are good, there's no real awkwardness when I walk in, I was muuuuch more confident this time, and I don't really need to negotiate price (I'd prefer to pay 200, but for the sake of not having to stand in the first room for long periods. The extra 100 is worth it). The cons are I think it's going to be much harder to get a different girl there, as the one I've been with twice seems to think I'm hers, unless it was just coincidental and it was her turn at the plate. Also I'd like a bit more freedom, not being able to touch anything was a bit of a disappointment, her tits seemed within bounds, but anything below was made very clear was a no-go. That and I don't like my chances of getting a BBBJ, or anal, which I'd like to try (maybe the anal at a BBS is not going to happen anywhere, but it won't stop me from trying).[/QUOTE]I am glad you enjoyed yourself. Unless she was spectacular (and it does not sound she was) move on. Tell her no, pick another one next time or go elsewhere. It will put her in her place, maybe she will try harder for your next time.

It's China, too many girls, too little time. Take my word on it. I learned this the hard way.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1485001]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?[/QUOTE]Dream Spa is located on Yanggao Nan Lu No. 889, Pudong District, inside the Sofitel Jin Jiang Oriental.

Has anybody gone to the massage place on Wuning Street near where it intersects Wanghangdu Street. In the alley off Wuning street. Same owner as 1808 Beijing Street in Jingan. Was wondering if you have any favorites or if any of the girls from Beijing street work there too.

Beijing4987

[QUOTE=Mike921;1485001]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?[/QUOTE]Hi Mike,

Yes there is a spa service here, but I doubt it will offer what I'm after, and I've seen no reports anywhere that it does, I'll have a look at the Ramada though.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I'm quite sure I'd be lost without it. Doubt I'll get up to much tonight, but might try Dream Spa this weekend if I get time. When's the best time to go?

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1485238]Hi Mike, yes there is a spa service here, but I doubt it will offer what I'm after, and I've seen no reports anywhere that it does, I'll have a look at the Ramada though.

Thanks for all the advice guys, I'm quite sure I'd be lost without it. Doubt I'll get up to much tonight, but might try Dream Spa this weekend if I get time. When's the best time to go?[/QUOTE]The reason no reviews for your hotel is because it is VERY new. You would be surprised what services are available even in 'name brand' hotels.

I've been to Dream Spa only in the early evenings (around 1900). At the time (a few years ago) there were 2 levels of service, the standard drill (locker room, shower, sauna, etc.) to the left of the desk. And deluxe service (everything is in the room) to the right. If I remember correctly maybe a RMB500 delta between the two. This was before Jin Jiang Group took over. Reference my previous review.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1485368]The reason no reviews for your hotel is because it is VERY new. You would be surprised what services are available even in 'name brand' hotels.

A few years ago I was offered full service in the Ramada spa, but the price was crazy. There were also services on offer through the hairdressing salon on the first floor, although that might have been a freelance enterprise. I saw independent girls in the lobby and bar on various occasions, and elevator encounters are well reported. Most of the massage places around the corner on Hongfeng Road offer extra services, but I stopped going when the demands for "tip" started at 500 or even 700 rmb for a happy ending. Sorry girls, it's nice but not that nice! I've speculated that there must be something interesting going on in Shanana, judging by the number of cars parked outside every evening, but I've never heard anything to confirm that. The one time I tried it there was no suggestion of special services, just a very expensive foot massage!

As Mike says, the BBS on Yinshan Road are behind a small triangular group of trees. On the north side close to the intersection with Jinkou Road. Just look for the bright LED signs. There are some MPs at the east end of Yinshan Road at the corner of Zaozhuang Road. I've only tried one, it was the fairly standard grubby room and happy ending, prices lower than Jinqiao of course.

I've noticed a number of massage places opening recently on the south side of Jintai Road, have no idea what services they offer.

Occasional lurker, first time poster, etc. Etc.

Reading along it seems like it's mostly sauna / bbs reports, which doesn't help too much for people looking for MPs. Yeah, they're everywhere in the city, but I actually like the (real) massage and some other aspects, eg. Ability to shower in private. So if I post as I go along, maybe it helps someone. Or else you can just read for kicks about a newbie's journey with all the highs, lows, mistakes, and successes. Insight from the more seasoned would help, since I really don't have much of a clue what I'm doing.

Gudao Health Spa, Changning.

Found this place via HappyMassage, specifically looking for a place that does traditional massage should things go wrong and I want to audible out at the last second. Can't really speak much of the local language (much better at listening though) , I walk and try to ask if they speak Japanese. Kind of dumbfounded silence, the guy at at the desk just motions to follow and goes upstairs. There were no girls in the lobby like surrounding MPs so I thought it really might be legit, except the only sign inside showed prices of 248 and 298, and the rooms suggested otherwise. If they used to do normal massage, they must've stopped. Already in over my head.

The ML comes in and is totally dressed in the BBS getup. Fairly tall already plus heels, a good 8-9 that was a surprise. Directed me to shower and didn't look away, which made it kind of hard to discreetly conceal my excitement; the awkwardness of trying to undress led her to ask if this was my first time. This kind of place. Yes, and I unthinkingly said as much. Mistake number one. As I was showering, she was replaced by another girl, still nice but definitely less so, shorter and more like a 7. Best guess in retrospect, they stuck the new girl on me, figuring I wouldn't know the difference (kinda true).

A teasing massage more than anything else, boo, plus some kind of gel pack thing rubbed all over the back and down. The massage under the blue shorts was nice, and had me pretty on edge by the time she tapped to indicate flipping over. Here's where I hypothesized she was the new girl. I was trying to hold back and kind of mini-popped, and she didn't notice in the slightest. I managed to stand firm throughout, and she continued as if nothing happened. In fact, after it taking longer than she expected, she even amusingly said I must be very good at making love, hah. Never managed to get to a second pop, her arm got too tired (new girl much?) and when I declined to add time she at least was nice enough to help me dress. Was staring a little too much at my midsection though, she seemed impressed. It was either that I had defined, if small abs, or a high, thin, girly waist. Sadly, I think it was the latter. Didn't ask for tips and walked down arm in arm, and paid the 248. At the least the desk guy tried to manage 'Sayonara' at the end. Nice touch.

[QUOTE=Mike921; 1485368]The reason no reviews for your hotel is because it is VERY new. You would be surprised what services are available even in 'name brand' hotels.

A few years ago I was offered full service in the Ramada spa, but the price was crazy. There were also services on offer through the hairdressing salon on the first floor, although that might have been a freelance enterprise. I saw independent girls in the lobby and bar on various occasions, and elevator encounters are well reported. Most of the massage places around the corner on Hongfeng Road offer extra services, but I stopped going when the demands for "tip" started at 500 or even 700 rmb for a happy ending. Sorry girls, it's nice but not that nice! I've speculated that there must be something interesting going on in Shanana, judging by the number of cars parked outside every evening, but I've never heard anything to confirm that. The one time I tried it there was no suggestion of special services, just a very expensive foot massage!

As Mike says, the BBS on Yinshan Road are behind a small triangular group of trees. On the north side close to the intersection with Jinkou Road. Just look for the bright LED signs. There are some MPs at the east end of Yinshan Road at the corner of Zaozhuang Road. I've only tried one, it was the fairly standard grubby room and happy ending, prices lower than Jinqiao of course.

I've noticed a number of massage places opening recently on the south side of Jintai Road, have no idea what services they offer.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ringer,

This was enough to help me find it tonight. There's about 4 BBSs there, I picked one of the more dodgy looking ones as there was a girl in there that caught my eye, it didn't look that great, the backroom looked like it was just a curtain, but as it turned out there was a second floor.

Anyway, on to the report, for some reason I like writing stuff down when I get back to the hotel, and hopefully this will help someone else.

I think I struck gold tonight. I did almost get spooked and walk home, as LE appeared to be patrolling the street, every 20 mins or so a cop car with its lights on would drive slowly down the street, most likely a coincidence (I only saw two before going inside) , but was enough to give me second thoughts. Anyway, with my balls firmly between my legs, and not left back at the hotel, I made my way over to the one Id chosen, there was a girl in the door that I saw trying to entice other guys in, and was my pick, so I was happy when I walked past that to beckoned me inside (not that I would've stopped if she hadn't). She quickly ushers me behind the curtain, and confirms that I want sex, by making a gesture with her hands (making a circle with her index finger, then sticking her other index finger in and out of it, which was fucking hilarious). Anyway, I confirm what I'm after, and she starts the negotiation at 400, I counter with 200, she counters with 300, I counter with 200, and she agrees and we go upstairs. The staircase leading upstairs was super skinny, not sure if this is the norm, but we get to the top and there's a bed right infront of us, which we don't take, there's another bed next to it, separated by a curtain (so much for privacy huh?) , but we skip that one also. She points to a square "hole" in the wall, which is probably 1mx1m in dimension, then she gets on her knees and opens the other end of the hole, as it turns out there's a hidden room back there, I'm grinning ear to ear by this point. I follow her into the hole and there's a smallish room, with a double bed, that was ridiculously hard (I found out later that it didn't actually have a mattress on it. Just some wood covered in a few thick blankets) , and tissues, tissues fucking everywhere (packaged ones of course) , there would have been probably 200 or so packages of tissues, the kind you'd find inside a tissue box, this got a little chuckle out of me, which was met by raised eye brows from her. Anyway, I get undressed, and she takes off her panties, she indicates for me to lie down on the "bed", which I do. I get a BBBJ (albeit short) , then she sticks on a condom and rides me for a bit (read 1-2 minutes) , wasn't too happy about this, but from reading / my very limited experience this seems like the norm. I suppose the fact they have to do this all night makes sense. She then hops off and jumps on her back, and points to her ass, and raises 5 fingers (I'm thinking fuuuuuck yea by this point) , we negotiate back and forth over a few seconds, and agree to 300. From there it was all pretty normal, I was allowed to alternate between both holes at my whim, which was nothing shy of magical. After about 20-25 minutes, I can tell she's starting to want me to finish, as we're switching positions she grabs the aircon remote, and turns it up to 30, which I found hilarious, started laughing for 1-2 seconds after we'd started again, which I don't think she liked. I finished and she turns the aircon down, and makes me sit underneath the fan (as I'm sweating by this point). I get dressed, pay her and leave. So in short, I got everything I wanted.

I walk outside with a huge grin on my face, only to see a cop on the road in the middle of doing a U-turn (with lights on) , the shop is behind a mini-park kind of thing, so I'm praying he hasn't seen me. I put one of the larger trees between me and him, and wait for a little bit, but thankfully once he'd finished his U-turn (which should have been a 3pt turn, and ending up being what felt like a 9. Terrible driver) he drove off down the street. I walked after him, and he turned off onto Jinkou Road, and I was home free.

Now the bad (maybe?) , which probably should have bothered me more, and didn't. She kept spitting in the corner of the room, initially after the BJ, and then every 4-5 minutes or so, she probably would have done it about 5-6 times during the session. The BlueTeeth that went out to his first BBS earlier this week would have probably been disgusted by this, but I didn't really mind, it kinda just added to the whole thing.

One last thing I was thinking of on my walk back, should I be trusting their condoms? They don't seem to offer me the chance to use my own, but I'm not keen on catching anything while I'm over here. Despite the places not being the nicest in the world, the girls I've been with have all been quite clean (other than spitting in the corner. LOL) , using lots of wet wipes and tissues etc, so I think that puts me into a false sense of security a little bit. Should I be insisting on using my own? What's the norm here?

I'm sure I'll have another report tomorrow night, not sure where I'll go this time, most likely I'll just go for a walk and see where I end up.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1484937]Went out a bit later tonight, about 9ish, and spent 20 minutes trying to find somewhere to take a leak, I used this time to take a look down the road you mentioned, one block away from Jinqiao Road, and I couldn't find anything. The street had a big lit up red arch over it, and had a Garden something hotel on it (can't remember the exact name, was about half way down on the left). I got to the end of the street without even a hint of a BBS, and had the option of going left or right, I ventured right for a bit, but the street looked pretty bare, no lights or anything, so I turned back.

You should have turned left at the end. As you reach the area where building renovation is going on you'll see a few shop fronts with ladies trying to attract your attention. Not as obvious as the ones on Jintai Road. No pink lights, no ball gowns. Just some women in street clothes sitting on some chairs in the doorway. Doesn't look like an upmarket experience.

[QUOTE=Mike921;1485001]Do a search for Dream Spa, I think it's probably the nearest. BTW, there isn't a spa / massage place at your hotel (or maybe across the street at the Ramada)?[/QUOTE]Longhao Spa on Du Juan Road is a similar distance from your hotel, it's a bit run down but generally ok. There are several BBS nearby on Yinghua Road if you want to make a night of it! The famous Bodi spa is also quite close to there, on Long Yang Road. You'd really need to take a taxi there as it's on a major road, not easy to walk to or from.

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth; 1485746]Thanks Ringer,

One last thing I was thinking of on my walk back, should I be trusting their condoms? They don't seem to offer me the chance to use my own, but I'm not keen on catching anything while I'm over here. Despite the places not being the nicest in the world, the girls I've been with have all been quite clean (other than spitting in the corner. LOL) , using lots of wet wipes and tissues etc, so I think that puts me into a false sense of security a little bit. Should I be insisting on using my own? What's the norm here?

I'm sure I'll have another report tomorrow night, not sure where I'll go this time, most likely I'll just go for a walk and see where I end up.[/QUOTE]Blue teeth, good report, keep up the good work.

You're worried about their condoms and getting something. And you got a BBBJ?

Each to his own about taking risk and catching something, but. I think you better look up ways to catch STDs again.

Stay safe,

Sam

[quote=samcan; 1486074]blue teeth, good report, keep up the good work.

you're worried about their condoms and getting something. and you got a bbbj?

each to his own about taking risk and catching something, but. i think you better look up ways to catch stds again.

stay safe,

sam[/quote]tried this place three times over a few weeks, in large because the quoted poster saying it was one of his favorites. read around that there were at least 2-3 numbers that people would recommend. 16, 19, and i think another one, so that figures to be decent odds of success, right? sam mostly has described everything pretty thoroughly, so just mentioning a couple other points here. the shop immediately to the right seems to be pretty busy and will easily have a group of people sitting outside, so wait for it to get dark and people to disperse if you don't want an audience for your walk of shame in and out. there's a fair number of rooms, but i think they're not in the best condition. they usually send you to the best of the rooms available, and i noticed some peeling wallpaper and under-maintained showers, made a little less noticeable by really dim, very red light.

first trip, tried to communicate as much as possible and failed pretty miserably, probably scaring the guy at the front desk a little. led me to room and disappeared immediately, sending a lady from upstairs down. over 30, a 6-7, might not be ideal but whatever. did a fair imitation of traditional massage, basically everything except lacking force, and a decent down-under massage as well. if any big complaint so far, it took a long time walking to get supplies, so you're just laying there for some 5 minutes at a time. happened twice, once when she got the disposable gel packs, and another to get towels to wipe off the oil. asked if 280 was okay on the flip, and agreed without really knowing what it meant. cue a ton of mouthwash, gargling, and some deep throat clearing the likes of which you'd hear from a dude horking up phelgm, not particularly pleasant. and for all that, she just licked around the tip for a minute, even if bare, before pulling off and going into hj overdrive. was definitely reminded that they're seasoned at what they do. it actually didn't really feel good at all, yet she somehow got me to pop in no time flat. disappointing, getting shooed off after 40 min total, and left thinking not to do 280 again.

second time, i went in without trying to say anything at all, not wanting to give any chance of upsell. side effect of that was the desk guy telling me he'd help pick for me, with no idea i could even understand that. got a 6ish plump mid-30s lady, and not wanting to say anything couldn't even ask for someone else. does totally give away your foreign status when you don't say a word, even if you might pass for looking like a local. got a kinda crappy massage, though when it came to the artificial-tongue roaming, could noticeably feel the little extra boob size her weight afforded. surprise for both of us on the flip. dunno exactly what she was expecting, but my size wasn't it; i'm guessing i'm probably very average by foreign standards, but who knows about local. another gel-pack thingy in her mouth for the front suddenly turned into seeing how far down she could go. bare, first of all, and minus the clinical cleaning of the first time. started off maybe 1/3rd of the way down and could manage as much as half, but this was probably owing to her (lack of) ability more than me; it was tight to the point of hurting so i was totally fine when she pulled off after less than 5 minutes and did the rest by hand. so is this the semi-laowai version of the (entirely fake) big dick syndrome: still willing to do it, but you'll automatically pay more. was never asked, but 280 again, so much for not going upsell.

third time, i tried straight english all the way. got a 7ish with something of a belly, for the third time no idea what number. everything by the same routine, but on flipping she rolled a condom on. didn't really ask for it, but whatever, see where this goes. cbj for some 5 minutes, which entirely didn't work since the damn cap was so tight it hurt more than anything else. she kind of noticed it and, after some (not-as-offensive) rinsing and wiping down with wetnaps, went bare. i'll blame the condom for this, but i couldn't pop for the entire time and she pretty much only pulled off when her jaw got tired. seeing all this stamina, she actually pulled out a notepad from the nightstand and wrote 500, pointing to her crotch. that was new, and i guess that means fs is on the menu in certain cases. also learned that they take card, a kind of ridiculous exchange of motioning with me not having enough money and her making swiping motions. didn't go for that, particularly not wanting to put another of those caps on, and also declined a time extension after the hour (?) was up. i got up and was almost to the shower, when she indicated that she would still get me off even without paying for more time. so i'm just standing in front of the shower while she goes at it with her mouth, hands-free at times (yay!) for another 10 minutes. the difference in height was enough that she could just bend over a bit and not be too uncomfortable, and i kinda mini-dribbled in her mouth. chalk that up to going for too long, she didn't even really notice. talk about customer service though, best 280 by far from this place.

so how do you go about asking what number a girl is, or asking for a specific number? given such wildly varying experiences, it seems like it would be a good thing to know. also would help to be able to repeat and see how that changes things.

[QUOTE=Prasath79; 1478253]Hi Sarawak,

Can you be more specific with the address of the massage shop, at least the cross road would be fine. Will like to go there.

Indian.[/QUOTE]Coming from Loushanguan road metro station and walking in direction Changning road you find the massage shops shortly before the intersection on the right side. At least 3 shops are in this area.

Was the total only 298 RMB?

I went to one named Shenyuange Massage Spa on the 2nd floor. Corner Loushanguan Lu and YuPing Lu. 3 or 4 others in the area.

Very dim lights in room. Girl about 26, not stick thin but not fat. Very short skirt. Shower, she started with clothed tit massage on my back and butt. Then back massage while she straddled my butt. Could feel her pussy rubbing my butt. Then she sat on table, lifted my legs up on hers, oil and crack massage then blue shorts torn off and she gently massaged junior. On the flip wanted 200 for HJ, talked her into 500 for full service with cover and titty sucking. Small B cup, sensitive nips. Cowgirl. Very GFE except no kissing. Very relaxed on exit.

[QUOTE=Prasath79; 1478253]Hi Sarawak,

Can you be more specific with the address of the massage shop, at least the cross road would be fine. Will like to go there.

Indian.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Sam,

Whilst I'm not oblivious to the risks, I'll admit common sense left the room a little bit in my excitement.

On to my next report (sorry, from the same place as my first two. But there's a good reason for that).

So I realised on Friday last week that I'd left my jacket somewhere, and upon thinking back remembered that the last place I had it was when I visited the first place I went to on Jintai Road (for the second time). I was tempted to go there on Friday night, but thought better of it, and ended up working reasonably late anyway.

So, fast forward to tonight, I've still got my jacket on the back of my mind, so decide I'll go in and ask if they have it. I wander over there quite early (around 630ish) , and there are people fuuuucking everywhere. I need to take a leak by the time I get there, so decide I'll go for a walk to let the rush die down (and to find somewhere to relieve myself). I walk back, and then down Yinshan Road, heading towards the park area in front of the BBSs there, thinking that that's quite a secluded spot. As it turns out theres a proper toilet just past the bus station / stop there, so no need for that.

I then walk back to Jintai Road, and decide I'll let myself cool off for a bit before going in, I have a pretty bad habit of power walking everywhere which means I'm usually quite hot by the time I get somewhere. I wait for 10 mins or so, then wander in, deciding I'll indulge myself. And then ask for my jacket.

As I walk up, I see the girl I was with the first two times, and she spots me before I get to the door, and I see her crack a smile and say something to the other girls. Whilst I'd like one of the other girls to mix things up a bit, I've got my sights set on her as she was probably the one who picked up my jacket when I left last time. So I walk in smile at her, and she doesn't budge. So as it turns out, getting her twice was coincidence, it must've just been her turn to bat, another girl stands up in the corner of my eye, I turn to face her, and it's the 10 (mentioned in my previous reports.)! I have no complaints with this, and follow her into the back. We end up in the same room as the first time I went to the place, but this time the aircon is off. I'll admit it took me a bit longer to get going this time, not sure why, but once I was sporting a semi she put on a condom and we were away (no BJ this time).

In short, she was epic, it almost felt like she was enjoying it (not that I'm going to kid myself. But she was a good actor at the very least). The moaning was in time this time, if I wasn't trying to make her feel something, she didn't indicate that she was feeling something. No moaning while giving me a HJ or anything silly like that, but she moaned when I sped up and eased up when I slowed down. Another thing I loved is that she wasn't pushing into me unless I was thrusting hard, the first girl would basically keep her ass cheeks on my legs while we were going (if you can imagine that) , so I didn't really get to see much, and with a condom on I kept going soft. I had nooo problems at all with this girl, she only pushed back when I was thrusting in, otherwise she'd just sit there and moan quietly, giving me a perfect view of her astounding ass. By the end of the 30 minutes we were both sweating, and I figured I should finish off, so I did. She turns on the aircon, and I ask her if they have my jacket, by making a putting-a-coat-on gesture. She rattles off some Chinese but nods, and off she goes in search of it. I found out what was in the boxes in the rooms. Lost and found. The room my jacket was in was in use, so I just kinda waited in the hallway while she went off to the ladies room (after speaking to a few people). For some reason, even though they've indicated that my jacket is in one of the rooms that are in use, they're continuing to search in the room we were just in, two girls on their knees looking under the bed, and me sitting in the hallway with the best view imaginable. A few of the girls brushed past me in the hallway and said hello with cheeky smiles on their faces, which got a huge grin out of me. Eventually the two in the occupied room finish, and my girl goes in and retrieves my jacket. I thank her (in Chinese, because that's how I roll) , and head out.

Heard sirens in the street after I was out, but they were on the next road, so I didn't stress too much. Walked back to the hotel feeling at peace with the world. Didn't get a BJ, or anal, but it didn't feel like bought sex, which was fantastic.

I kinda want to expand my horizons, but at the same time, you don't fix what's not broken right?

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1486074]Blue teeth, good report, keep up the good work.

You're worried about their condoms and getting something. And you got a BBBJ?

Each to his own about taking risk and catching something, but. I think you better look up ways to catch STDs again.

Stay safe,

Sam[/QUOTE]

Same place as last, Yuyuan on Shaanxi and Changping. Have other places to write about but I managed to answer one of my questions and things could be described as. Interesting, maybe. Decide for yourself.

Managed to get the same room at the back as twice before. Don't they believe in rotation? The do-not-disturb sign is all of a shirt on a hanger hung over the window, and this was the first time I noticed that there actually was a functional lock at the bottom of the door even if the handle keyhole is out. Got the youngest-looking (sub-30) girl thus far, also in a bit better shape and leans towards cute look more than hot. Need to revise impression of previous visits, what I would labeled as 6-7 before would have to get pegged to probably just straight 6, as she was definitely a notch above. Trying to put on the blue shorts, I was stopped, sniffed down there, and sent back to the shower. She decided she needed to wash things herself with enough soap as you might use for an entire shower. Not off to a good start.

Definitely noticeable effort in the massage, which I appreciated. It even hurt a bit, not so much from using enough strength as excessively rubbing shoulder blades, but better than the half-assed attempts you probably get most of the time. Even massaged legs, which a lot of times is skipped altogether. In a different twist, there was zero rubbing of sack and an entire focus on ass. Kneading and whatever else, progressing to prodding; didn't really react much at the time, but decidedly not the biggest fan. She also did a completely different take on the fake gel tongue, which was so light that it almost couldn't be felt, and you could much more notice her boobs on your back. After flipping, she was kind enough to actually ask if I wanted 200 or 280, which wasn't always the case at this place. But while she asked, she was also doing a nice job of sucking on nips, which was convincing enough of a sell that it'd be worthwhile.

And it was. Not a rushed job and doing everything, no cap to be had. Some way through, she decides to take her bottoms off too and turn for 69. Unshaved and whatever, but if that's what she wanted then why not oblige? Some guys here would tip just for some DATY, and it didn't smell all too strong, so just don't act too selfish when teeth are in near proximity of particularly sensitive body parts. Here's the kicker of the story though: whether faked or real, she climaxed 5 times before time ended. Appropriately synced moaning, if perhaps way louder than expected, wasn't really a clear indication of anything. What I do know is that after the second time she was asking about FS (no mention of how much it might cost) I think because she was getting tired, and it downgraded to just a HJ after the third time. Ridiculously, by the fifth time she tried to get me to do the job myself and just sat on my face grinding away. I'm guessing she like it well enough. 2-3 times she was squirming, bucking with legs, and even got off altogether to catch her breath.

Not sure where this stamina came from that I still hadn't popped when time was up, but it garnered an amusing reaction. This has got to be a joke, you're too much, and two thumbs up. Also a bittersweet moment when she specifically asked if I was American, rationalizing the question by making hand gestures to explain exactly how much the locals differed in size. Dammit, I'm Asian, I don't want this stereotype affirmed by someone so qualified to make that judgment, even at the sake of an ego boost. She joined in the shower, which was a first for me, and helped dry off before showering more thoroughly herself. Definite plus in the service column to offset some of the earlier hangups. On leaving, she motioned the numbers with her hand, wrote it out, and made me repeat. Number 18. First time I've ever been offered a (non-veg) number and it's already known. At least that's one way to get that info even if you don't know how to ask. (I dunno if I should be apologizing or something, but sorry SamCan. 18's just as cheerful as you said, and seemingly well).

[QUOTE=BlueTeeth;1486887]I kinda want to expand my horizons, but at the same time, you don't fix what's not broken right?[/QUOTE]Hi Blue Teeth,

Just to let you know. If you like 10, you don't have to go back. If they try to give you another girl and you want someone else just point at girl 10 and say

Wo yao ni. (woa, yeow Knee). This means I want you. When pointing at a girl it usually has a sexual connotation as well.

Enjoy!

Will be in Shanghai just for a night on a layover in which case I don't really feel like figuring out the MP or Sauna process, I'd rather just get a girl to my room. Does anyone have any experience with either of these two services? Are the pictures accurate? Do the girls from Helen and Friends offer FS? What kind of prices are we talking about? Are there any other reputable services out there?

[url]http://unforgettableshanghai.blog.com[/url]

[url]http://www.helenandfriends.com/index.html[/url]

Hi Bro,

Are you asking the total damage of the service in the shop mentioned by Sarawak50?

[QUOTE=Sarawak50; 1477666]I was walking along Loushanguan road in direction Changning road as I saw 2-3 massage shops on the right side of the road. One of them had a board in front of the shop with types of massage and prices. I went in, a lady was at the desk and I asked for "90 min. Paradise bath massage" for 298 rmb. I was brought to the room upstairs. Clean and there was a wooden tub and also a shower there. The ML came in around 30 yo no bad looking, a bit meaty with nice boobs. Wearing a very short dress. She put a plastic foile into the wooden tub and let water in. In the mean time she started to strongly massage my back side. I liked the massage. As the tub was full she asked to go in and started loafing my body. The little brother got a special cleaning by hand. The whole time she didn't say anything and my Mandarin is Zero. After around 25 min in the tub I was lead back to the bed. Dried up by warm towles what I like very much. Again little brothe got special treatment. On the bed again strong back massage. I started touching and cruising and everything was allowed also fingering. After a while I turned on the back and she put off everything. She lied literally on me and started kissing and moving up and dowm, mourning but not too loud. She turned her body so that can start BJ and putting her pussy on my nose more or less. Afterwards we did missionary, doggy till I exploded in her. 90 min were more than over as I left. Very nice experience.

The whole action without saying a lot or better very few words but for sure I ll be back soon.[/QUOTE]That shop was named Tao Yuan Ju Foot Bath and located on the Loushanguan Lu as well. In that shop the total damage of push oil (the service described by Sarawak50) is only 298 RMB. If you want to get more info about Tao Yuan Ju Foot Bath you may check it out on Happy Massage.

Spent 2 days in Shanghai and went to Manhatten Monday night about 10. Pretty well full by then with mostly Vietnamese. A few Chinese also. Plenty of variety but I had my heart set on a little spinner. 2 very good ones already there. Unfortunately 1 got taken out by 10:30 so I decided I better talk to the one left. Started out at 4000 RMB and I just told here to get serious. Immediately came down to 2000LT and 1200ST (2 hours). I had to get up early so I.

Wasn't sure I wanted LT. Offered 800ST (3hrs) and 1500LT She wouldn't budge so I said no problem and let her go. Ordered another beer and talked to a couple other possibilities. Ran into the first girl a couple times and asked if she changed her mind. She said no I finished my beer and grabbed my jacket and said goodbye to her. At this point she decided to change her mind. I kept her ST for 800. Great little body, great attitude. Loved oral both giving and receiving. Went from oral to sex and she came unglued. After about 10 minutes she asked if I would finish in her mouth. Off came the condom and she gave me the best blowjob handless that I have had in awhile. Came in her mouth and she swirled it around letting it drip down her chin and licking it back up. After playing with it for about a minute she went to the bathroom. I don't think she swallowed.

Then she asked if I wanted a massage. Gave me about a 20 minute massage nothing special but great effort. We talked for awhile and she informed me that if she didn't like a guy she stuck on the 4000. That way if she ended up with him she would put up with it. If she likes you its 1500 if not it goes up from there.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1487391]"helenandfriends" I don`t know, the "unforgettableshanghai" at least works with faked pictures.

Even they call it "actual" (you can check them with picture search) , most pics are "borrowed" from other pages.

You also can check out:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/real-escort-girls/[/url]

This is a collection of the less real girls profiles you can find in Shanghai.

Enjoy your trip,

Steven[/QUOTE]Thanks, are there any services that use real pictures on their sites as I can be quite picky and don't want to be disappointed if a different girl arrives?

I seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). Really liked the place. There are quite decent sauna facilities as well as massage and if I had more time, I would have spent a lot longer here. Girl selection is from a fish bowl; there were about a dozen girls available when I was there. Late afternoon. In looks, the quality was mixed. There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) Anyway, she was a great choice and turned out to have a prettier face than I quite realised in the bowl, and a very nice slim body with tiny tits but slightly hard nipples, that felt good when rubbed against my various softer parts. Best of all, she had a great attitude and I finally got to have a proper nuru. (See earlier posts about trying to find nuru instead of soap massage.) AR was enthusiastic and erotic, excellent BBBJ, and sex that had her orgasming (or convincingly pretending to) several times. 880 RMB. Afterwards I showered again and went through to the relaxation area, were I had an ear massage (80RMB) from a very friendly girl (#1 of the ear girls) whose curvy body fit very nicely around my legs while she gave my ears a thorough service. She was very interested in my younger brother and wanted me to get her to stay for a massage, which I guess would have involved HE at least. But I needed to leave and declined. Just before I went a cute foot massage girl (#5) dressed in a sailor's outfit came into the room smiling and seductive. Wish I had time to stay.

TM

Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost?

BJ.

Seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). Really liked the place. There are quite decent sauna facilities as well as massage and if I had more time, I would have spent a lot longer here. Girl selection is from a fish bowl; there were about a dozen girls available when I was there. Late afternoon. In looks, the quality was mixed. There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) Anyway, she was a great choice and turned out to have a prettier face than I quite realised in the bowl, and a very nice slim body with tiny tits but slightly hard nipples, that felt good when rubbed against my various softer parts. Best of all, she had a great attitude and I finally got to have a proper nuru. (See earlier posts about trying to find nuru instead of soap massage.) AR was enthusiastic and erotic, excellent BBBJ, and sex that had her orgasming (or convincingly pretending to) several times. 880 RMB. Afterwards I showered again and went through to the relaxation area, were I had an ear massage (80RMB) from a very friendly girl (#1 of the ear girls) whose curvy body fit very nicely around my legs while she gave my ears a thorough service. She was very interested in my younger brother and wanted me to get her to stay for a massage, which I guess would have involved HE at least. But I needed to leave and declined. Just before I went a cute foot massage girl (#5) dressed in a sailor's outfit came into the room smiling and seductive. Wish I had time to stay.

TM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1487515]Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost?

BJ.

Seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). Really liked the place. There are quite decent sauna facilities as well as massage and if I had more time, I would have spent a lot longer here. Girl selection is from a fish bowl; there were about a dozen girls available when I was there. Late afternoon. In looks, the quality was mixed. There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) Anyway, she was a great choice and turned out to have a prettier face than I quite realised in the bowl, and a very nice slim body with tiny tits but slightly hard nipples, that felt good when rubbed against my various softer parts. Best of all, she had a great attitude and I finally got to have a proper nuru. (See earlier posts about trying to find nuru instead of soap massage.) AR was enthusiastic and erotic, excellent BBBJ, and sex that had her orgasming (or convincingly pretending to) several times. 880 RMB. Afterwards I showered again and went through to the relaxation area, were I had an ear massage (80RMB) from a very friendly girl (#1 of the ear girls) whose curvy body fit very nicely around my legs while she gave my ears a thorough service. She was very interested in my younger brother and wanted me to get her to stay for a massage, which I guess would have involved HE at least. But I needed to leave and declined. Just before I went a cute foot massage girl (#5) dressed in a sailor's outfit came into the room smiling and seductive. Wish I had time to stay.

TM[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]The place does not offer oil massage with HE.

Technically the place does not really offer massage, it is a FS joint.

The only class of service they offer is the nuru massage for 880 RMB. (yes, that would be your base price for 1 girl)

If the girls like you maybe you can get 5 minutes of an actual massage out of them, otherwise the water massage is nothing like a real massage.

I am not saying it doesn't feel good, but it is totally different.

If a legit massage is what you seek, I suggest you walk across the street to the Kangen Massage next to the computer shop, but they don't offer HE.

SiYuan does offer some extras, like the Ear Cleaning or the Foot Massage service.

For the ear cleaning, the basic price is about 100 RMB for 15 minutes of service.

They usually offer a package which includes the HE, the ear picking, and a head and shoulders massage.

Approximately an hour of service.

For the foot massage, I don't remember what the base price was.

But I think it was around 150 RMB for 30 minutes of service.

You get a legit foot massage with oil. The only part missing from the foot massage is the part where you put your feet in a wooden hot tub smelling like Chinese herbs.

Of course it can also be tagged along with add-ons. There is also a package which includes the HE and thigh massage probably costing around 500 RMB as well.

In the spa area, if you like to get scrubbed, there is a guy who scrubs customers clean with wet sponges and towels.

It is rough but I actually enjoy the experience of seeing all the dead skin being scrubbed off.

This service is technically free and included as part of the 880 base price, but the bathing salt is 50 extra.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1487515]Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost? BJ.[/QUOTE]I don't think they have been discussing the fate of world economy. LOL I think they offer more than HE, of course it is up to you how you want to end.

[QUOTE=Trawlerman;1487440]I seem to have had very good luck in SH recently. See recent post on Pattaya, Buddha and Heting. This time I went to the Siyuan spa on the 3rd floor of the Changhang Merrilyn Hotel (818 Zhangyang Road, Pudong, nr. Century Ave station). TM[/QUOTE]Good report.

To help fellow BM, it is worth to say that the Merrilyn Hotel is located opposite the Intercontinental Pudong Hotel.

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[QUOTE=Trawlerman; 1487440][B]Changhang Merrilyn Hotel, Siyuan SPA[/B]

There were some young cuties and some older less pretty girls that the manager guy was insisting were better for service. I compromised on #896 who was not the youngest or prettiest but still nice looking, mid-20s, I guess, and approved of by the manager. (He was really very direct. I suggested a couple of the younger girls and he said "oh no" in very clear way!) [/QUOTE]I've also experienced honest manager-guys. One guess is that they realize that it's not good for business if a customer has a bad experience; another guess, assuming you're non-Chinese, is that he is steering you away from the girls who are uncomfortable with westerners. And I'm not surprised to read that many of the older girls are more likely to provide better service, both from experience and because they may lose their job otherwise.

[QUOTE=Egb5811;1487410]Thanks, are there any services that use real pictures on their sites as I can be quite picky and don't want to be disappointed if a different girl arrives?[/QUOTE]I guess there are all together not more than 20 to 30 girls in the whole city Shanghai who will be available in the internet with real pictures, so forget to find any agency who works with real pictures. We try to bring them all to our page and I guess we are successfull with 50% now. So I guess all other escort directories and agency pages together will have very less real girls you will not find on our page. And it will be hard to pick out the less real girls there, because they will be one of 100 faked girls profiles. Don`t think if the picture looks like "homemade", it will be real. A lot of agencies already found out that kind of pictures works, so they use faked "private" pictures. By the way, it doesn`t matter, if the agency or directory will tell you: 100% real picture and so on. All of them are still happy with the 25 to 50% of the customers who don`t send the girl back, if she is different from the pictures. In fact, all the girls and agencies who use faked pictures and faked profiles finally make more money than the girls who use real profiles, because the sexy pictures of models attract 10 times more customers than real pictures of real available girls, so even if 80 % of the customers send them back, they still have double income of a girl who work with real pictures, so there is not even a need for them to use their real profiles. That`s why it is so hard for us to find girls for our page who agree to work with real pictures. Even we have a lot of visitors and customers for them. I think all that faked profiles here in the city are also a little bit customers fault, because too many of you guys still pay the "wrong girl", so there is no motivation for any agency to provide real girls. If they can find enough guys who pay a lot for a "faked" girl, why they should spend any effort to present real profiles?

There is one trick, how you have a chance to find out if the profiles are real or not. Don`t agree to let them come to your room. Insist to meet them at the hotel bar or in the lobby. If they work with faked profiles, it is hard for them to tell you how to find the girl in the bar (because than they have to tell you not to search for the girl on the picture) and the girl also will have more problems to make you trouble and fight with you for the taxi money if you don`t accept her (normally they will not leave your room without 100 or 200 RMB for "taxi-money", if you send them back). But on the other side also bad for the honest girls, if you meet them outside your room. I know some real girls who don`t accept that, because they often got the experience, that they drive to a meeting point and no customer showed up (by the way, the girls told me also, that 2 from 10 customers who make appointments are also "fakes" and never show up. I have no idea, why guys think it is funny to call a girl to a hotel room, where there is no guest. This is reason, why some girls and agencies will doublecheck by calling you back in your hotel room).

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1488269]I've also experienced honest manager-guys. One guess is that they realize that it's not good for business if a customer has a bad experience; another guess, assuming you're non-Chinese, is that he is steering you away from the girls who are uncomfortable with westerners. And I'm not surprised to read that many of the older girls are more likely to provide better service, both from experience and because they may lose their job otherwise.[/QUOTE]I think that is just the manager's way of telling the customer that the girl doesn't like foreigners without explicitly saying it.

Cathy's website cited in classifieds obviously states something that she only sees "white western" guys. Our co colleague M S commented that she will miss out a lot of business.

Luckily it lets me not compete with the wealthy Chinese friends, haha. I always prefer "low frequented" ones. If she looses a lot of opportunities she obviously is picky and can afford to.

Gregory

I'm still looking for new naughty talent in the oil.

Massage department Looking for gals who are not the "don't touch me there" type. The take it off, grind the pussy into my face type. DFK is a plus!

BJ

I reunited with a "good girl" type who many have enjoyed. PM me for details. Sam, are you interested?

Skepti10,

Went to Yinghua and Dujuan. Saw girls in the front of shops, but they said "massage" on them. Is this where you are getting FS without even pretension of a massage? I've been to massage places and negotiated extras but I would like to find what you describe here. Walk in, FS, no BS.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Skepti10; 1480273]Another 141 xpost from yesterday:

Today I checked out the bbs on Zhengli road, went back to Yinghua as well as scouting out another posters info on lanhua and dujuan road.

First Zhengli. Get off the train at Jiangwan town station, exit out of the east side exits, walk north to Zhengli road and head east. The shops are on the north side of the street. Now the reports I've read about this was over a year old so there was a chance of a ghost town, and yes...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BaconAndEggs; 1488944]Skepti10,

Went to Yinghua and Dujuan. Saw girls in the front of shops, but they said "massage" on them. Is this where you are getting FS without even pretension of a massage? I've been to massage places and negotiated extras but I would like to find what you describe here. Walk in, FS, no BS.

Thanks[/QUOTE]No idea, when I went there my eyes was solely focused on the girls and not the shop sign.

I'd say as long as you see girls in a lot if makeup and short skirts sitting In front of the shop then it should be a FS place, especially on those two streets.

Hey guys, had one night to party on my business trip, so after perusing the board, decided to hit Manhattan for the first time, then try the sauna at Shanghai Hotel (for old times sake. My first sauna experience in China a few years ago) the next day. Well, I never made it to the sauna because I was still recovering from a fabulous night with the hottie I picked up at Manhattan.

Got there about 10:30 and it was already packed. Small place, all the bar and table chairs were taken by guys, and there were wall to wall women of all shapes and sizes (but not too many fatties, thank goodness). Most were above 6 (my rating for do-able) and there were many 8-9, but no obvious 10's to my eye. Still, it was like being in a candy store. Finally got a seat, but it was very difficult to make a decision with so many choices. I was on my own, and 3-4 girls came up to talk.they tended to be the less hot ones, and they didn't seem to mind chatting but then moving on when it was clear I wasn't interested.

I only speak English, even though I am Chinese, so perhaps that limited my choices. But eventually I got to "chatting" with a lovely, petite Viet (called An Wa, or something like that) , who didn't speak much English but was very sweet with a great smile. She said she was 26 but looked younger (I guess they all do) and she asked for 1000 ST. I know I overpaid, but she was sweet and exactly my type, so I didn't try to negotiate her down.

I was a little worried in the taxi because she didn't seem too interactive. Just holding hands, a little reluctant to kiss, but turns out she was just a little shy. In the hotel it was clear that she was gorgeous. An 8. 5 to my eye, slim, petite, perfect size B tits, a lovely curved ass, and supersoft skin. And as soon as she cleaned up, she became a sweet girlfriend, with fantastic DFK, licking everywhere, an above average BBBJ, and any positions that I wanted or could think of. She was shaved and DATY was delicious. Her moans were realistic (if not real, then a good actress) , and she really made sure that I was happy. The finish was explosive, and she stayed a long time cuddling and kissing afterwards. We did a bit of "talking" with Google translate, but I'm not in this hobby for the relationships, just the sex, and it was excellent! Just sorry I didn't have time to tap her again during this trip.

Anyway, I hobby all over the world, but this was an A-1 experience, so thanks for the all reports, and safe hobbying, boys!

R.

[QUOTE=BaconAndEggs; 1488944]Skepti10,

Went to Yinghua and Dujuan. Saw girls in the front of shops, but they said "massage" on them. Is this where you are getting FS without even pretension of a massage? I've been to massage places and negotiated extras but I would like to find what you describe here. Walk in, FS, no BS.

Thanks[/QUOTE]If you see a girl at the door in a short black skirt, with a reception desk inside, it's a massage place where you will get a shower, massage, HE and possibly more by individual negotiation depending on the girl and her mood.

If you can see through the window to an area with girls sitting around looking obviously sexy / glamorous in gowns or nurse costumes, it's a BBS where you will get FS (not much more or less!)

Hey,

I know from reading this forum that there are a lot of cheaper / better options out there, however, I have a fantasy of picking up a girl in the bar of a hotel and bringing her up to my room. I know it won't really be anything like the idea in my head, but I'd like to give it a try. Unfortunately, most of what I've seen on forums seems to be non-specific (e. G. Phrases like "probably a hotel like","maybe in hotel X").

Does anyone have any specific recommendations for hotels (in Shanghai, obviously) where I'm likely to be approached by a hot, well-dressed, discrete girl? I'm interested mostly in good quality hotels (4/5-star / luxury). Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

Frank

[QUOTE=FSnowdon; 1489767]Hey,

I know from reading this forum that there are a lot of cheaper / better options out there, however, I have a fantasy of picking up a girl in the bar of a hotel and bringing her up to my room. I know it won't really be anything like the idea in my head, but I'd like to give it a try. Unfortunately, most of what I've seen on forums seems to be non-specific (e. G. Phrases like "probably a hotel like","maybe in hotel X").

Does anyone have any specific recommendations for hotels (in Shanghai, obviously) where I'm likely to be approached by a hot, well-dressed, discrete girl? I'm interested mostly in good quality hotels (4/5-star / luxury). Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

Frank[/QUOTE]I have experience in Equatorial hotel close to Jin'An temple. The lobby bar is usually somebody. Once I pick to my room a girl for LT with 1300. Last time there was one but I didn't need any. Usually there is a girl sitting alone and having a cup of tea. Maybe she is reading something or messaging with a phone. Just take a contact and you see if she is available. They want to keep a low profile. You make an eye contact, she smiles to you. Walk close and she will ask you what you want.

In Shanghai hotel I have never seen anybody. Those who looks like WG were going to somebody and were not available at that point. In JinAn hotel I have never seen anybody neither in Shanghai city hotel.

Shanghai hotel sauna goes as usual. At 11pm there was a selection of 8 girls. All ok. No red rope but good service. The only problem was too eager boys who want to help and then wait for a tip. 800 damage.

[QUOTE=FSnowdon; 1489767]Hey,

I know from reading this forum that there are a lot of cheaper / better options out there, however, I have a fantasy of picking up a girl in the bar of a hotel and bringing her up to my room. I know it won't really be anything like the idea in my head, but I'd like to give it a try. Unfortunately, most of what I've seen on forums seems to be non-specific (e. G. Phrases like "probably a hotel like","maybe in hotel X").

Does anyone have any specific recommendations for hotels (in Shanghai, obviously) where I'm likely to be approached by a hot, well-dressed, discrete girl? I'm interested mostly in good quality hotels (4/5-star / luxury). Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks,

Frank[/QUOTE]Shanghai Hilton in Jing An. Go to the 39th floor. It has the bar and view of the city. When you walk in there are 3 round tables across from the bar. There are almost always a girl at each table. I have seen 6-7s regularly. I actually sat and talked to an 8+ (in English) and could have had her. I had other plans so I left.

Sheraton Hongqiao always has a couple or 3 girls in the lobby / bar area. There is one that is about 30. If you sit alone she will beckon you over. There are 2 other girls there usually as well. If they are alone, strike up a conversation. You won't sleep alone

Sam

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1487515]Does the spa offer Oil Massage with HE? How much would that cost?

BJ.[/QUOTE]Sorry, no idea. The massage mentioned was in the relaxation area.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1488269]I've also experienced honest manager-guys. One guess is that they realize that it's not good for business if a customer has a bad experience; another guess, assuming you're non-Chinese, is that he is steering you away from the girls who are uncomfortable with westerners. And I'm not surprised to read that many of the older girls are more likely to provide better service, both from experience and because they may lose their job otherwise.[/QUOTE]Agreed. It is probably a combination of all these things. One worry is the manager-guy is also motivated to give work to girls who haven't been selected recently, usually because they are not so good-looking. I'm not too keen on taking his first recommendation for that reason but I'll ask for his view of girls I select myself. It's an extra source of information. Although smiling eyes from a girl who I also find attractive, if not the most attractive, is still the best indication.

TM

[QUOTE=Carage; 1480506]According to Google Maps, Xinyuping Sauna is practically right across the street to the hotel.

I've never been there, but I have heard stories that they have a huge lineup but wait time is also very long.

1733 Lian Hua Lu&8206;

Min Hang Qu, Shanghai, China. 201103[/QUOTE]Great trip to Asia this week for work that included 5 days in Shanghai, including 2 Friday nights. Trip started with an arrival mid afternoon into Shanghai & a stay at the Warner Inn Hotel in Caoheling Hi Tech Park, Lianhua Road. Arrived at the hotel around 4 PM, decided to see if I could find the Xinyuping Sauna, which was supposed to be across the street at 1733 Lian Hua Lu (near Yishan Road). Found the Sauna in a small 2 story building behind the Huana Hotel. Just walk down the driveway to the right of the hotel, all the way to the back – it will be on the left. This place was very good. Started out upstairs in a private waiting room with TV where the ear massage, foot massage girls try to sell you a quick massage. Decided not to – and about 10 minutes wait, was brought back to the viewing window. 30-40 girls of all shapes, sizes, and ages are behind the glass. I had no trouble finding a young slim girl that met my specs. She brought me upstairs to the room where you got out of your clothes (no shower, all valuables stay in a closet in the room with you). Started with the washdown, body massage (front & back) , then dry off for the main event. Cat bath, credible kissing, BBBJ, FS, and rest time – then final rinse. All & all 90 minutes – and lots of fun. No English (#853) – but playful & not mechanical at all. Overall a quality 90 minutes for 880 RMB.

I repeated the following Tuesday with equal success (again around 5 PM – but the place was more crowded (5 guys at the viewing window)) – but still plenty of selection. I would strongly recommend this place. I have been to Bodi a half dozen times (3 or 4 good. 2 mechanical) – and this is equal or better. Try it out!

Had the opportunity on the trip to be in Shanghai on 2 Friday nights – and spent both at the Swissotel (girl friendly) and Manhatten. On both occasions, guys outnumbered gals – probably 2:1 – but guys 'buying' still had choice selection. Arrive both times after dinner at Malones (nothing going on when I leftat11) to arrive to a full Manhatten – and great selection. Both nights, ended up with a Vietnamese girl – and it was excellent. First night, LT (midnight to 8:30AM) for 1600 RMB (I know. Expensive) – but well worth it for me. She did not look like the typical working girl (shirt / jeans, subdued makeup) – flirted for 15 minutes – allowed me to ask the question in my own time. And off to the races. Everything on the table – so good first round, sleep in close contact – and woke up to a blow jobat7:30 – and finished with nice slow event from behind. Second a week later was ST for 1, 000, 11-1, and very playful. Incredible place – worth the trip. Bangkok report posted later today.

Will

One thing I learned from the girls, if you're Chinese (or Chinese looking) and look too serious, they might think you're an LE. Smile more, actively talk to the girls, let your hands wander all over her, get her comfortable. Once the girls see you chatting up someone, they will come over.

[QUOTE=R The Man; 1489204]I only speak English, even though I am Chinese, so perhaps that limited my choices. But eventually I got to "chatting" with a lovely, petite Viet (called An Wa, or something like that) , who didn't speak much English but was very sweet with a great smile. She said she was 26 but looked younger (I guess they all do) and she asked for 1000 ST. I know I overpaid, but she was sweet and exactly my type, so I didn't try to negotiate her down.

R.[/QUOTE]

Went back to Yinghua and Dujuan to do the deed, Friday night around 2130. I am Western so there is no faking it. The ladies on Dujuan were much more enthusiastic trying to wave me in than on Yinghua, maybe because there was much more foot traffic on Yinghua. Anyway I liked how the shops on Dujuan were all together and did not think there was a difference in quality. Saw a tiny little spinner and went in, but was approached by another. She started with 400, I said 200 she said no, so I said 300 and no again. I turned around to leave and she said yes. I then pointed to the little one I had my eye on and was waved off. Took the negotiator who was also tiny but with huge tits. Just as Skepti10 reported, even though the sign says "massage" there is no pretending. Straight to business. Once in the back she said BBBJ was 100 more, declined. Again, I heeded Skepti10's advice and stuck with standing mish. The lady was nice looking and in good shape, but both she and the room are used in quick succession. As I was leaving the next guy was coming in! All said, it was a nice quick hit for 300. I think I will try one of the other shops that were more enthusiastic about waving a foreigner in, stick with them, and try to get the price down.

Hi!

I'll be in Shanghai for several days and my travel agent booked me to the Salvo hotel. The location seems to be good for sightseeing but is there any good massage parlors around? Or any other good tip is appreciated. All the nice places seems to be rather far away. Sorry for such rather stupid questions. I have never been in Shanghai before (only Beijing). And I don't speak any Chinese either.

Burned more money than normal within a week, getting completely opposite results. Definitely something learned.

Being in a rush, or at least not having time enough to travel more than 5 minutes, I decided to check out the absolute closest MP around, one I'd probably avoid in most circumstances. Just your very typical shop, typically with someone standing inside the door trying to draw attention kind of place. Passed by plenty of times and noticed a bit older average age, low 30s, and a complete lack of consistency in how they dressed; less than half the time the standard white top and black miniskirt, sometimes casual to the point that they look like customers instead. Anyhow, stepped in and obviously the least attractive in the lobby was up on rotation, but hardly something to argue when you're pressed for time. By far the smallest and dingiest room / shower I've ever seen, and everything else equally bad to go with it, from the bed to even the soap and towels. For a first time, had little choice but to go with the 200 oil massage the ML insisted on for lack of knowing the alternative, and it turned out to be a 30 minute mostly bland affair. On hearing a direct request for a tip, I was already regretting the whole thing but whatever. 300 total just to be done with it all. She somehow managed to finish up within 5 minutes (record low for me, I think) and that was all, shower and get out. Turns out I completely forgot how much cash I was carrying, and it was enough for the lady to see too; suddenly, it became 300 tip + 200 for massage, and as much of a scam this all was the extra money just wasn't worth arguing and getting past a lobby of women, especially when short on time. Worst 500 ever spent, massage places are everywhere but explore at your own peril if no one's ever given it a thumbs-up. Also explains why I think I've only ever seen one person leaving this particular shop, though I pass by all the time.

Gudao Health Spa on Changning, first purely HE place I ever went to, went again while in the area. Actually got a decent massage for once and ridiculously hot catbath from a fairly common-type 7, close to 30 but affectionate and willing to communicate despite broken language. Voluntarily took top off to give a tit massage and later panties as well to get fingered, kinda rare to find in my experience, especially without asking. So much effort was put into the first part that she couldn't get me to finish in the last 15 minutes, and she said her arm was too tired to continue. How about switching to a different girl for another hour? Was feeling pretty high after the first hour and decided to just go with it, and wasn't disappointed. The replacement was a fairly skinny girl almost 1.7m / 5'7ish tall, probably easy to find again even without knowing a number given that height. Was really quiet and seemingly the shy type, unsure if that was natural or because of language barrier, but it wasn't in a bad way. Since the normal massage part was already done, this was straight HJ bliss for an hour. Normally wouldn't notice much from any HJ (they're all basically serviceable) but she used both hands the entire time, frequently varying her technique, and non-mechanical. There's just something to be said about getting someone's undivided attention, no stopping or needing to rest, particularly when when being kept on edge the whole hour from how good it all is, that you can't get any other way. Only thing to complain about was her trying to get yet another person involved near the end, which just seemed excessive; going 2 hours straight is one thing, but who can reasonably expect to last for 3 on one pop? Got the happiest ending, the kind like "dayum, where'd that come from?" and took a long shower in the aftermath. Place with nice facilities, even better than home. 496 for the twofer and would come back for either, especially the second one to see if she might warm up a bit next time. On the more expensive side, but just lying back to enjoy for two hours well worth it.

NAC. Can you go back to the Guodao Spa and get the worker numbet for the gal that you fingered. I dpend too much time trying to track down a location and find s particular provider with inadequate information. There is Changning street and an area called Changning. Get a card from the place and ask for her "gong ren hao ma.

BJ.

Burned more money than normal within a week, getting completely opposite results. Definitely something learned.

Being in a rush, or at least not having time enough to travel more than 5 minutes, I decided to check out the absolute closest MP around, one I'd probably avoid in most circumstances. Just your very typical shop, typically with someone standing inside the door trying to draw attention kind of place. Passed by plenty of times and noticed a bit older average age, low 30s, and a complete lack of consistency in how they dressed; less than half the time the standard white top and black miniskirt, sometimes casual to the point that they look like customers instead. Anyhow, stepped in and obviously the least attractive in the lobby was up on rotation, but hardly something to argue when you're pressed for time. By far the smallest and dingiest room / shower I've ever seen, and everything else equally bad to go with it, from the bed to even the soap and towels. For a first time, had little choice but to go with the 200 oil massage the ML insisted on for lack of knowing the alternative, and it turned out to be a 30 minute mostly bland affair. On hearing a direct request for a tip, I was already regretting the whole thing but whatever. 300 total just to be done with it all. She somehow managed to finish up within 5 minutes (record low for me, I think) and that was all, shower and get out. Turns out I completely forgot how much cash I was carrying, and it was enough for the lady to see too; suddenly, it became 300 tip + 200 for massage, and as much of a scam this all was the extra money just wasn't worth arguing and getting past a lobby of women, especially when short on time. Worst 500 ever spent, massage places are everywhere but explore at your own peril if no one's ever given it a thumbs-up. Also explains why I think I've only ever seen one person leaving this particular shop, though I pass by all the time.

Gudao Health Spa on Changning, first purely HE place I ever went to, went again while in the area. Actually got a decent massage for once and ridiculously hot catbath from a fairly common-type 7, close to 30 but affectionate and willing to communicate despite broken language. Voluntarily took top off to give a tit massage and later panties as well to get fingered, kinda rare to find in my experience, especially without asking. So much effort was put into the first part that she couldn't get me to finish in the last 15 minutes, and she said her arm was too tired to continue. How about switching to a different girl for another hour? Was feeling pretty high after the first hour and decided to just go with it, and wasn't disappointed. The replacement was a fairly skinny girl almost 1. 7m / 5'7ish tall, probably easy to find again even without knowing a number given that height. Was really quiet and seemingly the shy type, unsure if that was natural or because of language barrier, but it wasn't in a bad way. Since the normal massage part was already done, this was straight HJ bliss for an hour. Normally wouldn't notice much from any HJ (they're all basically serviceable) but she used both hands the entire time, frequently varying her technique, and non-mechanical. There's just something to be said about getting someone's undivided attention, no stopping or needing to rest, particularly when when being kept on edge the whole hour from how good it all is, that you can't get any other way. Only thing to complain about was her trying to get yet another person involved near the end, which just seemed excessive; going 2 hours straight is one thing, but who can reasonably expect to last for 3 on one pop? Got the happiest ending, the kind like "dayum, where'd that come from?" and took a long shower in the aftermath. Place with nice facilities, even better than home. 496 for the twofer and would come back for either, especially the second one to see if she might warm up a bit next time. On the more expensive side, but just lying back to enjoy for two hours well worth it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1491224]NAC. Can you go back to the Guodao Spa and get the worker numbet for the gal that you fingered. I dpend too much time trying to track down a location and find s particular provider with inadequate information. There is Changning street and an area called Changning. Get a card from the place and ask for her "gong ren hao ma.

BJ.[/QUOTE]Finding the place should be a snap, Google map it and you should get the exact location, it's listed on happy massage as well and I specifically wrote "on Changning" rather than in. On the other hand, I'm not around the area all too often so it might take a while; also unsure what the odds are of running into the same person, one time the break room door was open and I caught a glimpse of maybe half a dozen girls sleeping in there. If I do happen to get a number I'd post it, but only once have I ever sent anyone back (for lack of a better way to describe it) and been pretty good with the rest. They do talk to each other after all, even if I'm not regular or anything I think they recognize the semi-foreigner. Matter of fact, that might be one way to find her, some of the others are more hesitant when unable to communicate much and might voluntarily sub out.

Sped by there on the bike over the weekend and was amazed at the number of girls and there general quality. No idea why this area doesn't get more ISG love.

[QUOTE=BaconAndEggs;1490995]Went back to Yinghua and Dujuan to do the deed, Friday night around 2130. I am Western so there is no faking it. The ladies on Dujuan were much more enthusiastic trying to wave me in than on Yinghua, maybe because there was much more foot traffic on Yinghua. Anyway I liked how the shops on Dujuan were all together and did not think there was a difference in quality. Saw a tiny little spinner and went in, but was approached by another. She started with 400, I said 200 she said no, so I said 300 and no again. I turned around to leave and she said yes. I then pointed to the little one I had my eye on and was waved off. Took the negotiator who was also tiny but with huge tits. Just as Skepti10 reported, even though the sign says "massage" there is no pretending. Straight to business. Once in the back she said BBBJ was 100 more, declined. Again, I heeded Skepti10's advice and stuck with standing mish. The lady was nice looking and in good shape, but both she and the room are used in quick succession. As I was leaving the next guy was coming in! All said, it was a nice quick hit for 300. I think I will try one of the other shops that were more enthusiastic about waving a foreigner in, stick with them, and try to get the price down.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NotAClue; 1486996]Same place as last, Yuyuan on Shaanxi and Changping. Have other places to write about but I managed to answer one of my questions and things could be described as. Interesting, maybe. Decide for yourself.

Managed to get the same room at the back as twice before. Don't they believe in rotation? The do-not-disturb sign is all of a shirt on a hanger hung over the window, and this was the first time I noticed that there actually was a functional lock at the bottom of the door even if the handle keyhole is out. Got the youngest-looking (sub-30) girl thus far, also in a bit better shape and leans towards cute look more than hot. Need to revise impression of previous visits, what I would labeled as 6-7 before would have to get pegged to probably just straight 6, as she was definitely a notch above. Trying to put on the blue shorts, I was stopped, sniffed down there, and sent back to the shower. She decided she needed to wash things herself with enough soap as you might use for an entire shower. Not off to a good start...[/QUOTE]This post was 100% spot on. I went in to this MP and asked for number 18 and got the same exact service. Except after I showered there was no re wash LOL. She walked in very chatty and friendly. I have only been taking lessons for 6 months now but got the jist of most of what she said. She asked if a friend of mine had recommended her.

The massage was good and I thought she was going to eat shit when she was walking on the back of my legs. When she got to my ass she did exactly stated above and the tongue thing was also barely noticeable and yes her tits you felt more than the tongue. On the flip asked as well which I wanted and She also didn't have a condom either. Good BBBJ with cim. She did the same half way threw taking the bottoms off and 69. Sorry guys it just ain't my thing. Afterwards she washed me head to toe in shower and dried me off. I Pulled SamCan's original trick and gave her 100 and told her I would pay the laoban 200. She agreed and smiled. When we got to the front desk I asked how much and the dude asked and she said 200. Sweet. All in all it was good service and nice happy personality.

Wanted to go somewhere different. Saw a recent review for somewhere translated as Regent club at 2988 Hongmei, which gave some sense of direction; walked around the street before and there's such a high density of sketchy storefronts that I breezed straight through without stopping at any. By the by, noticed a review that was a cutup of a post I put up for Yuyuan massage. Creepy, especially given that it was cut / pasted in such a manner that it was garbled to the point it looked like a translated foreign language. AND used 'twiceaweek' for a name. Only wish I could find a place where that'd actually be true. (50% to that point, will need to write that some other time).

So Hongmei road, and this is.exactly- one of those sketchy storefronts I avoided the first time. To boot, this is a really busy street, even with a bus stop across the road and next to a park with a lot of people walking through. Actually saw someone leaving the place, and when I walked past he had a total deer-in-headlights guilty look knowing everyone knew his business. That part's totally irrelevant, as for the place itself, its inside is about as tiny as it looks outside, all of maybe 4 fairly cramped rooms. Lady comes in, a kinda thick maybe 6 in upper-20s / low-30s asks is if 260 is okay, and I have zero clue what to expect. Definitely the most different routine I've ever seen. Just 10 minutes of backrub before removing her top and massaging with just boobs, followed by an indescribably weird catbath that no one would care to know about anyway. About 20 minutes in, haven't done anything with shorts until flipping over, and she sets up for a titfuck. Well, that's new, especially when this goes on for 10-15 minutes. I'm guessing this was actually her specialty, only that she wasn't quite big enough / I wasn't quite small enough for this to really get a sustaining attempt. Should make the point that she was quite natural, with the caveat that her biggish see's weren't disproportionate to the rest of her body. Still, I can't imagine this to be all that common, how many women can even attempt to pull it off?

Switched to HJ when it was obvious that slipping out of her cleavage every 15 seconds wasn't going to work. Got another offer for FS (what happened to girls unwilling to on first times?) that I declined, though there was no mention of it costing any more. Wasn't the greatest HJ ever, but the entire time she basically insisted that I had to play with her boobs using both hands, guiding me back to them if I stopped or backed off. Also spent way too much time on my nips, started off sucking but felt more like chewing after a while. Quite the nipple kink I would guess for someone into that kind of thing. Not really my thing so I didn't ask for a number, though with a shop this small I'm guessing she would be easy to find; I'd probably give it another shot to see if I get someone else that doesn't quite do this specialty service.

[QUOTE=Pit Shang; 1483666]It seems that many guys like her, but she is asking a lot of money, I think.

In Paris (France) , I find many independent cute and GFE girls asking about the same amount of money.

And if you really want a Chinese woman, you would only pay 100€ (say 1200 RMB) for one hour, negociable.

It seems that Shanghai is becoming really expensive for FS, and that only legit massages are worth the trip (in Paris, good massages are almost as expensive as FS).[/QUOTE]What an interesting note. Paris to me has always been the worst place ever for girls. Or maybe I'm not looking in the right places. I'm here in Shanghai, keen for action, and in Paris next week. Would you mind sharing a link or two?

Cheers

Hi forum,

I am a longtime member from UAE visiting Shanghai for the first time. I did RTFM, however, couldn't find any info on massage parlors where they provide prostate massage. Is that truly not available in Shanghai?

The company put me in the Xuhui International Suites on Dong An Road. Seems quite upscale? Is it possible to obtain "room service"? If not, what would be a good place nearby?

Apologies for these "newbie" questions, would appreciate any help. Thanks.

[QUOTE=PersonPaul; 1492746]What an interesting note. Paris to me has always been the worst place ever for girls. Or maybe I'm not looking in the right places. I'm here in Shanghai, keen for action, and in Paris next week. Would you mind sharing a link or two?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Check out the 'Paris' threat of this forum, I could find some valuable information there.

Lev

3 years ago I went to SH. I loved Shanghai. Such hot woman. My mistake was I did not research where to go before I went. I just assumed I would find what I need by walking around. I had to depend on taxis. First off just assume noone can speak english there. I asked 4 different taxi driver for boom boom and gave and hand signal. They all understood but 3 asked like there is no boom boom places in Shanghai. The forth one decided to take me. He took me to a road that had I guess you call it BBS. It is a place that has girls in the windows. None of the girls wanted to even look at me because I was a foreigner. The taxi guy had to come in to tell them I was ok. Got a 23 year old very cute chick. Amazing body. She held my hands down and BBBJ. Put on cover for quick boom boom. It was awesome 400 RMB total. If the taxi driver would have not waited outside and he left I would have been fucked. I did not know where the fuck I was and the area did not look the best. The girls all seemed paraniod the cops would come in at any minute.

Me and taxi guy left and as he was driving me back to hotel I saw another line window shops in a better area. Had him drop me off. Went in to one place with this chick with and amazing C cup. She would only do HJ. 300 total.

Can't wait to go back but next time I will be prepared.

Hmmm, are you referring to the street that is close to Longxi Lu subway stop on line 10? That's an expat area and not creepy at all. There seems to be many nice MPs there with obvious opp for extras, given the way the girls are dressed. If that's the place you're talking about, have you found anything else near there? Such as the Gubei area?

[QUOTE=NotAClue; 1492489]Wanted to go somewhere different. Saw a recent review for somewhere translated as Regent club at 2988 Hongmei, which gave some sense of direction; walked around the street before and there's such a high density of sketchy storefronts that I breezed straight through without stopping at any. By the by, noticed a review that was a cutup of a post I put up for Yuyuan massage. Creepy, especially given that it was cut / pasted in such a manner that it was garbled to the point it looked like a translated foreign language. AND used 'twiceaweek' for a name. Only wish I could find a place where that'd actually be true. (50% to that point, will need to write that some other time).

So Hongmei road, and this is. Exactly- one of those sketchy storefronts I avoided the first time. To boot, this is a really busy street, even with a bus stop across the road and next to a park with a lot of people walking through. Actually saw someone leaving the place, and when I walked past he had a total deer-in-headlights guilty look knowing everyone knew his business. That part's totally irrelevant, as for the place itself, its inside is about as tiny as it looks outside, all of maybe 4 fairly cramped rooms. Lady comes in, a kinda thick maybe 6 in upper-20s / low-30s asks is if 260 is okay, and I have zero clue what to expect. Definitely the most different routine I've ever seen. Just 10 minutes of backrub before removing her top and massaging with just boobs, followed by an indescribably weird catbath that no one would care to know about anyway. About 20 minutes in, haven't done anything with shorts until flipping over, and she sets up for a titfuck. Well, that's new, especially when this goes on for 10-15 minutes. I'm guessing this was actually her specialty, only that she wasn't quite big enough / I wasn't quite small enough for this to really get a sustaining attempt. Should make the point that she was quite natural, with the caveat that her biggish see's weren't disproportionate to the rest of her body. Still, I can't imagine this to be all that common, how many women can even attempt to pull it off?.[/QUOTE]

Cathy is a nice little package who does just about anything to please. Photos are accurate and she is a real sweetie. My session last week was good and she does stuff with those toys I didn't think I would like but really enjoyed.

BBJ, Anal, GFE. 9/10.

Gonga.

Check it.

[url]http://cathybeauty.wix.com/cathy[/url]

This is where the better HE MPs are. Try 3200 and 3300 blocks on Hongmei Lu.

[QUOTE=NotAClue; 1492489]Wanted to go somewhere different. Saw a recent review for somewhere translated as Regent club at 2988 Hongmei, which gave some sense of direction; walked around the street before and there's such a high density of sketchy storefronts that I breezed straight through without stopping at any.

So Hongmei road, and this is. Exactly- one of those sketchy storefronts I avoided the first time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Love Tactics; 1492941]Hi forum,

I am a longtime member from UAE visiting Shanghai for the first time. I did RTFM, however, couldn't find any info on massage parlors where they provide prostate massage. Is that truly not available in Shanghai?

The company put me in the Xuhui International Suites on Dong An Road. Seems quite upscale? Is it possible to obtain "room service"? If not, what would be a good place nearby?

Apologies for these "newbie" questions, would appreciate any help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]At least for one with an English sign you can read. 1159 Shanxi North. Hai Shang Yuan. 5-10 min taxi or short subway + 20 min walk, roughly. Or you can always try a random place and see how far you go with hand motions. Do tell how that goes.

At Midwestern: where you describe is a good 15 min walk north, which is indeed slightly less sketchy. Fewer bbs, dark alleyways, and people in general, I think. Looks equally ludicrous neon at night though, which might be coloring my perception. Any specific place that you actually know about, or just a general observation that the area is relatively nicer?

It's just a general observation. I'd love to try them, but I go to this area a lot (this is where Lao Wai Jie is located, which I like a lot better than Xintiandi) , so I don't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] where I drink, so to speak.

[QUOTE=NotAClue;1493738]At least for one with an English sign you can read. 1159 Shanxi North. Hai Shang Yuan. 5-10 min taxi or short subway + 20 min walk, roughly. Or you can always try a random place and see how far you go with hand motions. Do tell how that goes.[/QUOTE]Will try this one, thanks. And yes, will get back to the forum with results.

Is there a place for some daytime pickup action? I understand that Malone opens only in evening. Is there another place to meet some of Shanghai finest?

So I've never really asked any girl what number she was, or actually known how to, but if there ever was a time I wished I had, this was it. Would definitely want to get people's opinions though on whether I just have too distorted a view, before I blow far too much money and time trying to chase this down.

To start things off, this girl was the one and only time I've ever had the thought "uh oh" in a good way. A spinner would be one thing, but this was straight borderline jailbait. I wouldn't normally be much for the loli look, but she was in the 9-10 range and made it work. A girl on a 20-something's body, giving off the feeling like she was playing dress-up and I only hoped she was at least 19. She even started out chewing gum while giving by far the best massage I've ever gotten short of a veg version. Dayum, if things stopped there I'd already have been fine. No catbath (explained later) but instead did a whole back and below-shorts tease, using her nails to full effect."Total" is the word, no need for a lot of details. By the end, I almost didn't want to flip over because things would end all too quickly.

Left to get towels and came back, sans gum, to get serious. Now on my back, she lay beside with my arm sandwiched between her thighs. Well, couldn't really move much in that position, so she swung my arm around to access her crotch from behind. Definitely eager to thank her for everything so far, I had her writhing after a few minutes, which was all the more fun to watch from the mirror on the ceiling. Pretty sure this one wasn't fake, she stopped everything she was doing and just crouched on top of me to rest for a minute so I was just taking in the sight of her beautiful face. Even at a distance so close that makeup doesn't help, the worst you could give her would be an 8. 5; definite a plus in my book. Got back into original position, only this time she stuck my other hand into her shirt to feel her awesome Bs. Could also feel some wetness around her crotch even through panties and nylon bloomers, which only served as more motivation to get her off again. I kept going til both arms were tired, both she was spasming and it was all worth it. She climbed up and just stared at me for some time, at least in my imagination it was to remember my face from the multitude of others. Then, as a surprise, she started nuzzling against me with her nose and kissing softly. At this point her arm was probably as tired as mine was, and she tried the only English this entire time,"Sorry", because I still hadn't (or rather, refused to) finish. Suggested getting another girl, but there was no way another could be close to as good, so I just told her it was okay and headed to the shower. She helped me to change and was hugging, or more like clinging on, as I sat down getting dressed, altogether too cute. Glanced at the time and noticed it was. Way- over, but never was there an attempt to upsell, extend, hurry, or ask for any tip.

So what makes any of this special? Well, probably nothing at a proper sauna, but this was a 198 meridian massage at one of the branches of Spring, only 10 more than a regular oil massage, and as far as I can tell, it normally costs 100 more just to touch up top. And the place gets a lot of business. Saw an entire row of shoes there, plus the girls' heels outside almost every room. So you could never expect to get anything remotely close to GFE, especially for that money.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;1493928].so I don't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] where I drink, so to speak.[/QUOTE]I go there to get normal massage too, so now the receptionist now has to ask every time, slightly awkward. I noticed about a dozen numbers on the assignment board and I'm basically willing to get through every single one of them to find this girl again, probably should get a VIP card to facilitate that. Bear Grylls time!

Dude! This is not penthouse letters. Take a pen and paper, ask her " gei wo ni de gong ren hao ma" or point to your telephone. Learn some pinyin. Write down some random numbers. Be creative. Pm her phone number to me, well get het name. I've arranged meetings for friends and ISGers, post the address. The streets have pinyin signs.

BJ

So I've never really asked any girl what number she was, or actually known how to, but if there ever was a time I wished I had, this was it. Would definitely want to get people's opinions though on whether I just have too distorted a view, before I blow far too much money and time trying to chase this down.

To start things off, this girl was the one and only time I've ever had the thought "uh oh" in a good way. A spinner would be one thing, but this was straight borderline jailbait. I wouldn't normally be much for the loli look, but she was in the 9-10 range and made it work. A girl on a 20-something's body, giving off the feeling like she was playing dress-up and I only hoped she was at least 19. She even started out chewing gum while giving by far the best massage I've ever gotten short of a veg version. Dayum, if things stopped there I'd already have been fine. No catbath (explained later) but instead did a whole back and below-shorts tease, using her nails to full effect."Total" is the word, no need for a lot of details. By the end, I almost didn't want to flip over because things would end all too quickly.

Left to get towels and came back, sans gum, to get serious. Now on my back, she lay beside with my arm sandwiched between her thighs. Well, couldn't really move much in that position, so she swung my arm around to access her crotch from behind. Definitely eager to thank her for everything so far, I had her writhing after a few minutes, which was all the more fun to watch from the mirror on the ceiling. Pretty sure this one wasn't fake, she stopped everything she was doing and just crouched on top of me to rest for a minute so I was just taking in the sight of her beautiful face. Even at a distance so close that makeup doesn't help, the worst you could give her would be an 8. 5; definite a plus in my book. Got back into original position, only this time she stuck my other hand into her shirt to feel her awesome Bs. Could also feel some wetness around her crotch even through panties and nylon bloomers, which only served as more motivation to get her off again. I kept going til both arms were tired, both she was spasming and it was all worth it. She climbed up and just stared at me for some time, at least in my imagination it was to remember my face from the multitude of others. Then, as a surprise, she started nuzzling against me with her nose and kissing softly. At this point her arm was probably as tired as mine was, and she tried the only English this entire time,"Sorry", because I still hadn't (or rather, refused to) finish. Suggested getting another girl, but there was no way another could be close to as good, so I just told her it was okay and headed to the shower. She helped me to change and was hugging, or more like clinging on, as I sat down getting dressed, altogether too cute. Glanced at the time and noticed it was. Way- over, but never was there an attempt to upsell, extend, hurry, or ask for any tip.

So what makes any of this special? Well, probably nothing at a proper sauna, but this was a 198 meridian massage at one of the branches of Spring, only 10 more than a regular oil massage, and as far as I can tell, it normally costs 100 more just to touch up top. And the place gets a lot of business. Saw an entire row of shoes there, plus the girls' heels outside almost every room. So you could never expect to get anything remotely close to GFE, especially for that money.

I go there to get normal massage too, so now the receptionist now has to ask every time, slightly awkward. I noticed about a dozen numbers on the assignment board and I'm basically willing to get through every single one of them to find this girl again, probably should get a VIP card to facilitate that. Bear Grylls time![/QUOTE]

I tried Spring massage before looked up on Shanhgai nightlife. Seen a few around the city so at least it has a name. The one I went to said vanke square on the business card, soon as I get in they already assume I'm not there for a regular massage and direct me to a completely different counter behind a curtain. Told me beautiful girl massage and said 400 was best, but the english on the price list doesn't help so I go for a 200 to start.

Not much to say except that there wasnt much of a massage, girl was trying hard to get me to pay 100 extra so I can massage her tits. Even stopped to get her phone to translate which took some 5 minutes, but couldn't get that there wasnt all that much to massage, if ya get my drift. Didn't go with it and she was bummed, turned into bored-gf-experience lolz. Too real for me, couldn't even stay hard thru it and she just look at the clock and kick me out without any happy ending. The difference 100 makes. Didn't even think of asking for her number but saw that she was #69 when they check her out at counter. There's my 2 cents, not trying her agin.

[QUOTE=Landa2; 1352394]I was who recommended the #8 with the impressive tits. She left around 1-2 months ago, probably at the same time the place changed their massage offer. Before they had several options being the most popular the CBJ with obviously cover CIM. I guess my little friend (19yo) did not want to provide the such service by default (don't blame her at all). She is now in a massage place in Pudong where they charge 380rmb for a fantastic back massage according to her (I am not crossing half town for a back massage at that rate, even for those massive tits).

I've been once after they changed the menu and paid 346 with the VIP card, which I cut and disposed after getting out of the place. Almost all the nice girls working there left.

Close to that massage place there is another one: in the same cross, in the south west of shaanxi. Looks like they also made an upgrade and now they offer some BBBJ without CIM. I paid 200 but maybe it was kind of a promo. Facilities are not as good as in the other place but acceptable. Girls slightly over the average.

On Changping Lu, on north-western side of the crossing, there is a place which looks like a high end massage joint. Entry has Buddha face / walk up some stairs, buddha figures and Thai inspired decorations, piped smooth new age music and nicely decorated rooms with showers. They had a menu but informed me that now only the most pricy / comprehensive option (think it was 368) was available. Did this 4 times over a couple of weeks, same drill. She prepare room, shower alone, onto table, decent but short massage (a little different from each girl) , then over, off with the top, and a nice BBJ to completion including various degrees of CIM. Then another shower. No tip, pay at the desk, membership card offered, I don't want to walk around with any cards so I paid each time the approx 368 think it is 328 with card. Good service, reasonably attractive girls. Wonder about their health over time but alas too great of a place to really worry to much about it. Recommended.[/QUOTE]At a loose end last night, so tried the massage joint with the Buddha face in the window. Exactly as described, but perhaps my choice of a SYT called Xiao Yue was ill considered, should have taken one of the older more experienced ladies. Was offered a menu with two items, the receptionist translated it quite clearly, number 1, with hand job 228rmb, number 2, with blow job 328! No tips. Further, exactly as described. No VIP card mentioned.

FZ

[QUOTE=Midwestern;1493928]It's just a general observation. I'd love to try them, but I go to this area a lot (this is where Lao Wai Jie is located, which I like a lot better than Xintiandi) , so I don't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] where I drink, so to speak.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to try massage parlors on Hongmei Road, you can try Hai Zhi Xuan on Caobao Road (near Hongmei Road). Address: No. 1042, Caobao Road, Minhang District. I'd like to recommend technician #33 to you. Full service package only costs 288rmb. However, the disadvantage is that technicians there are a little bit old (boobs are great).

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1494546]Dude! This is not penthouse letters. Take a pen and paper, ask her " gei wo ni de gong ren hao ma" or point to your telephone. Learn some pinyin. Write down some random numbers. Be creative. Pm her phone number to me, well get het name. I've arranged meetings for friends and ISGers, post the address. The streets have pinyin signs.[/QUOTE]What it looks like is: one poster does a mostly tl; dr review of a place. Sum up in, found a girl at a MP and in progress trying to find again. Another poster just complains about no number. If you say your helping, put down some info rather than ranting or at least chill out. I try looking up your post to find stuff, and all you got nothing lately except questions for others to answer.

On a happier note, I been around the Buddha area too but tried the other place across the street. Kinda jumbled up numbers here, I think there are at least 3-4 ladies working at any time. At least noticed 2 closed doors when I went once on a weekday night and there are more empty rooms. Starts at 200, but for FS from different ladies I got numbers from 380-500. No idea if theres a standard, and carrying only 300 wasn't the way to go. Maybe not everyone does it either. Want to see whats up with that tatted chick, maybe a waste of money tho.

[QUOTE=NotAClue; 1494329]So what makes any of this special? Well, probably nothing at a proper sauna, but this was a 198 meridian massage at one of the branches of Spring, only 10 more than a regular oil massage, and as far as I can tell, it normally costs 100 more just to touch up top. And the place gets a lot of business. Saw an entire row of shoes there, plus the girls' heels outside almost every room. So you could never expect to get anything remotely close to GFE, especially for that money.

I go there to get normal massage too, so now the receptionist now has to ask every time, slightly awkward. I noticed about a dozen numbers on the assignment board and I'm basically willing to get through every single one of them to find this girl again, probably should get a VIP card to facilitate that. Bear Grylls time![/QUOTE]How does this Spring massage works? It's a veggie place where girls can do extra after tipping or it's a place that offers 2 different services? Please tell us which shop it is I want to try my luck.

I needed to write about this massage place, the service there is by far the best. I needed to go 3 time to be sure, but every time I'm satisfied. The girls aren't the best, average 7, but they are really nice and caring. Best HE, no rush at all and usually 100 kuai for tits access (base price is less than 200).

It's on Shaanxi Lu, between Anyuan and Xinhui. Going north it's the second place on the left (you probably won't notice the first one, and by the way it looks I woudn't try).

There should be a nunber on the store front. Get a piece of paper. Get the girl to write her worket number. Then you can tell us your favorites unless you want to keep it to yourself. The next time you go show the number at the desk.

I needed to write about this massage place, the service there is by far the best. I needed to go 3 time to be sure, but every time I'm satisfied. The girls aren't the best, average 7, but they are really nice and caring. Best HE, no rush at all and usually 100 kuai for tits access (base price is less than 200).

It's on Shaanxi Lu, between Anyuan and Xinhui. Going north it's the second place on the left (you probably won't notice the first one, and by the way it looks I woudn't try).[/QUOTE]

The most helpful info for the rest of us is street address, house price, girl number, service rendered, (roaming allowed? And tip requested for said roaming and extras).

How does this Spring massage works? It's a veggie place where girls can do extra after tipping or it's a place that offers 2 different services? Please tell us which shop it is I want to try my luck.[/QUOTE]

Dude.

I'm not ranting. We are only looking for useful information. I have enough posts to be a senior member. I may not have posted recently because Sam Can visited sites and particular providers I suggested to him. I prefer to PM as some of the providers may not want that much publicity. I have about four in Jingan and one in Gubei that I frequent. # 18 at 851 Shaanxi lu is consistent and awesome. #8 and #10 at 1808 Beijing Lu near the corner of Wanhangdu lu are also very motivated providers. # 10's sister, the former #18 is gone after 6 years. If you want a cheaper place I will get the address of s joint on Wulumuli lu near Yuyuan lu. The mama even did me there, so very little roaming.

BJ of Jiangsu.

What it looks like is: one poster does a mostly tl; dr review of a place. Sum up in, found a girl at a MP and in progress trying to find again. Another poster just complains about no number. If you say your helping, put down some info rather than ranting or at least chill out. I try looking up your post to find stuff, and all you got nothing lately except questions for others to answer.

On a happier note, I been around the Buddha area too but tried the other place across the street. Kinda jumbled up numbers here, I think there are at least 3-4 ladies working at any time. At least noticed 2 closed doors when I went once on a weekday night and there are more empty rooms. Starts at 200, but for FS from different ladies I got numbers from 380-500. No idea if theres a standard, and carrying only 300 wasn't the way to go. Maybe not everyone does it either. Want to see whats up with that tatted chick, maybe a waste of money tho.[/QUOTE]

These bars' Filipinas are God-awfully old and butt ugly.

Guys in Shanghai must be very desperate to spend money on them!

Guys I will be visiting Shanghai from 19th to 23rd of Nov`2013. I am staying in Grand Mercure Baolong 180 Yixian Road Shanghai. Can you direct me to a reasonably priced sauna with good girls FS near my hotel.

[QUOTE=Jackie6543;1495403]Guys I will be visiting Shanghai from 19th to 23rd of Nov`2013. I am staying in Grand Mercure Baolong 180 Yixian Road Shanghai. Can you direct me to a reasonably priced sauna with good girls FS near my hotel.[/QUOTE]There is a huge sauna on Yixian Road that I've only been there once because I thought it was too expensive to justify the value.

I probably spent close to 2000 RMB.

It has great amenities, but I probably wasn't too impressed with the lineup.

Century Sauna (Shiji SangNa HuiSuo)

519 Yixian Riad

Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.

[QUOTE=Carage; 1495490]There is a huge sauna on Yixian Road that I've only been there once because I thought it was too expensive to justify the value.

I probably spent close to 2000 RMB.

It has great amenities, but I probably wasn't too impressed with the lineup.

Century Sauna (Shiji SangNa HuiSuo)

519 Yixian Riad[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jackie6543;1495772]Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]Hop in a cab for cheap and go to Bodi, Heting, Merrilyn or any of the other saunas that have been written about on this forum 100 times.

[QUOTE=Jackie6543;1495772]Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]I don't know any place else in that area.

[QUOTE=Jackie6543;1495772]Thanks but can you recommend anything a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]Hawaii Sauna is cheaper, it's located on the 721 Quyang Road close to Zhongshan Road and only about 1. 4 km away from where you are staying.

I have been to SH a couple of time in the past couple of months and was pleased to still find a thriving BBS scene compared with Guangdong where there are very few BBS areas left. This week an old friend and former esteemed member of this forum took me on a tour of one area. Although not in full swing (maybe a recent crackdown) , there were still 10-15 shops open with 3-5 girls in each. I would say that the overall quality was mediocre at best but it was a thrill for me to be able to prance through the area, stick my head in the doors, walk in and joke with the girls and make my selection just like the old days. I ended up with a Dongbei girl that I took back to my hotel for 300RMB ST; onsite was quoted at 200 RMB, but I reckon 150RMB for locals and mongering veterans. The service was standard for a BBS girl, but the BBBJ was longer than expected and she did not complain when I asked for more. The only downside was a probable yeast infection or lack of hygiene which led to a slightly stinky snatch. DATY was out of the question.

You guys are lucky in SH to have these BBS options. They brought back fond memories of days gone by where I reside.

Just my POV.

OAH

I'm coming into Shanghai in a weeks time and have a few good days to myself.

I've got my sights on a Sauna like Pattaya and Sacrosanct but had a couple of concerns. Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian). Secondly, having a physical impairment (does not affect walking, talking, mind, dick) going to cause problems either? My most recent experiences in walk-in places in BKK are all positive and walk-in places in Malaysia as well. But I'm guessing China's a bit different? Or is it all in my mind?

I also thought I'd like to try my luck at Malones where I heard older filipinas hang out. But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me. So any thoughts on Malones? I'd like to give it a go and happy for it to be unsuccesful just for the experience. Another one of those unknown unknowns to quote the great Donald Rumsfeld. LOL.

I see that a lot of the private / high-end WL's are usually after white guys with money so I'm happy to avoid them but don't want to waste my time. Of course a report at the end of the trip will be forthcoming.

[QUOTE=Supmam; 1497270]I'm coming into Shanghai in a weeks time and have a few good days to myself.

I've got my sights on a Sauna like Pattaya and Sacrosanct but had a couple of concerns. Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian). Secondly, having a physical impairment (does not affect walking, talking, mind, dick) going to cause problems either? My most recent experiences in walk-in places in BKK are all positive and walk-in places in Malaysia as well. But I'm guessing China's a bit different? Or is it all in my mind?

I also thought I'd like to try my luck at Malones where I heard older filipinas hang out. But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me. So any thoughts on Malones? I'd like to give it a go and happy for it to be unsuccesful just for the experience. Another one of those unknown unknowns to quote the great Donald Rumsfeld. LOL.

I see that a lot of the private / high-end WL's are usually after white guys with money so I'm happy to avoid them but don't want to waste my time. Of course a report at the end of the trip will be forthcoming.[/QUOTE]I have seen a lot of ads for girls that say they don't accept Black men. I have not seen anything else that would make me think Turk / italians would have a problem. I don't know the type of impairment but I am sure you can try the saunas. If they don't work out for you go to Manhattans or Judy's. They are both 2-3 blocks from Malones. Others have had luck at Malones, but from what I have seen there are 10X more girls at manhattans and 3-5 times more (than Malones) at Judy's. Just look out for the ladyboys at judys. They are pretty obvious however.

I have seen some small filipas walk out of Manhattan's with some guys of all shapes, sizes and ages............. I am sure you will be fine.

[QUOTE=Supmam;1497270]But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me.[/QUOTE]That's weird. I've seen all kinds of foreigners walk out of OT in Singapore with a WG. Did you try Ipanema?

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1496860]I have been to SH a couple of time in the past couple of months and was pleased to still find a thriving BBS scene compared with Guangdong where there are very few BBS areas left. This week an old friend and former esteemed member of this forum took me on a tour of one area. Although not in full swing (maybe a recent crackdown) , there were still 10-15 shops open with 3-5 girls in each. I would say that the overall quality was mediocre at best but it was a thrill for me to be able to prance through the area, stick my head in the doors, walk in and joke with the girls and make my selection just like the old days. I ended up with a Dongbei girl that I took back to my hotel for 300RMB ST; onsite was quoted at 200 RMB, but I reckon 150RMB for locals and mongering veterans. The service was standard for a BBS girl, but the BBBJ was longer than expected and she did not complain when I asked for more. The only downside was a probable yeast infection or lack of hygiene which led to a slightly stinky snatch. DATY was out of the question.

You guys are lucky in SH to have these BBS options. They brought back fond memories of days gone by where I reside.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]Ah finally someone talking about taking these bbs girls for takeaway! Some questions:

Do all the girls do takeaway?

Is 100rmb extra pretty standard for takeaway?

Did your girl get changed when you took her out? I think walking in with the girls in cocktail dresses would raise some questions haha!

Are you east Asian? Speak fluent Mandarin? I know from experience that can affect price.

[QUOTE=Skepti10; 1497335]Ah finally someone talking about taking these bbs girls for takeaway! Some questions:

Do all the girls do takeaway?

Is 100rmb extra pretty standard for takeaway?

Did your girl get changed when you took her out? I think walking in with the girls in cocktail dresses would raise some questions haha!

Are you east Asian? Speak fluent Mandarin? I know from experience that can affect price.[/QUOTE]Also was she willing to shower before hand?

[QUOTE=Supmam; 1497270]Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian).[/QUOTE]It is definitly true, that a lot of girls in China have problems with black guys. First there is a rumor that black guys have very big dick, and you can imagine, if some girls refused sex with foreigners because of the "big-dick-syndrom", how afraid they must be because of the bigger black ones? Second Chinese people think white skin is most beautiful, so for them black one is opposite from beautiful. But I also know some Chinese girls have black boyfriends, so over all it is a hit and miss. I can tell you, in Manhattan and Judy`s you will not get any problems (because the viet girls there don`t have that problem) , and also in the Sauna clubs they definitly will not refuse you on the door or anywhere else. You can not be sure, if the girl is happy, when you choose her, but I am sure you will not be refused, and if you are nice and gentle to her, you will not get a problem with the girl, I guess. So try out this bars or some sauna places, than you will definitly enjoy!

Good luck and have fun in Shanghai,

Steven

If you are mistaken for Arab or Turk then it should not be an issue but I have seen a very black American guy refused service at one of the upscale places. The Filipinas at Manhattan and Judy's won't care.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1497497]It is definitly true, that a lot of girls in China have problems with black guys. First there is a rumor that black guys have very big dick, and you can imagine, if some girls refused sex with foreigners because of the "big-dick-syndrom", how afraid they must be because of the bigger black ones? Second Chinese people think white skin is most beautiful, so for them black one is opposite from beautiful. But I also know some Chinese girls have black boyfriends, so over all it is a hit and miss. I can tell you, in Manhattan and Judy`s you will not get any problems (because the viet girls there don`t have that problem) , and also in the Sauna clubs they definitly will not refuse you on the door or anywhere else. You can not be sure, if the girl is happy, when you choose her, but I am sure you will not be refused, and if you are nice and gentle to her, you will not get a problem with the girl, I guess. So try out this bars or some sauna places, than you will definitly enjoy!

Good luck and have fun in Shanghai,

Steven[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Skepti10; 1497335]Ah finally someone talking about taking these bbs girls for takeaway! Some questions:

Do all the girls do takeaway?

Is 100rmb extra pretty standard for takeaway?

Did your girl get changed when you took her out? I think walking in with the girls in cocktail dresses would raise some questions haha!

Are you east Asian? Speak fluent Mandarin? I know from experience that can affect price.[/QUOTE]Skepti10,

1) No, not all girls do takeaway. It seemed to be a shop by shop policy.

2) It has been my experience that 100RMB is the standard extra but sometimes I have been quoted 400RMB. I paid her 30 RMB return taxi fare.

3) In this case, she was not wearing a cocktail dress so change was not needed. In the past, I noticed they did change.

4) I am a laowai living in China a long time. My Mandarin is OK, especially in a mongering context.

5) She took a "quick" shower before and after (this is not always my experience) but it did not seem to make a big difference with the stinky snatch.

Pricing: I have to admit that I have not been able to get the local pricing in Shanghai BBS for ages. Most local pricing I believe is 150 RMB in-house, probably 200 RMB takeaway. Some proprietors quote close to this pricing for me and those seem to be the ones I patronize. I do not like paying the laowai surcharge but there is not much I can do about it these days.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Mgp23;1494945]How does this Spring massage works? It's a veggie place where girls can do extra after tipping or it's a place that offers 2 different services? Please tell us which shop it is I want to try my luck.[/QUOTE]Can only talk about the spring massage I went into, Vanke sq in gubei area. Veg massage is at entrance, but asking for oil massage leads to a kinda diff area branching off from the hallway separated by a curtain. I remember 3 price on the sign going 198/298/398 and hard to tell what each means from the English. I went with base and girl tried really hard to sell 100 more for touching, so you can maybe assume something from that. Am curious what the 398 is, but would have to be a diff chick than who I got. Will say a plus is nice shower + room setup for having veg gig also there, and from noticing 3 girls walking the halls they seem close to low 20s. Did see a fine one but they don't wear tags I think, diff from the veg side with the older ladies and their uniforms.

Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1497589]If you are mistaken for Arab or Turk then it should not be an issue but I have seen a very black American guy refused service at one of the upscale places. The Filipinas at Manhattan and Judy's won't care.[/QUOTE]Actually, if you are black or darker than average, you may get turned away at Manhattan completely. I have seen the boss lady at Manhattan kick out black patron before. However, if it seems like if a black patron is with a group of Asian / white patrons, then no issue at all.

#98 Rong Hua road. I was offered BJ there last year. Some big busted gals there. MaMa get the 165 door fee. Girls demand 200 tip. BJ was offered at maybe 250-350. #9 gives a great massage and ball scratching before flip. No roaming with #9, though. PM me with your results please. There is a big MP with "Rouge" in the name on same street. 200 is the entry fee. Lots of girls in lobby, so you probably can choose. Have nit tried that place yet. PM me with results there too, please.

BJ.

Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.[/QUOTE]

I posted and address and a specific providers worker number that I know well. You went to the "Buddah area" Got some numbes for FS but maybe you did not get FS or happy ending. This is exactly what I am talking about. I want info on a specific location, easy to find. General info about the action is ok. Most providers ask me not to speak anout DATY or BJ. I get both in Jingan. DATY on the first visit sometimes. One offered to come to my hotel after quitting time. Now FS becomes a possibility with her. All these places and providers have been outed in previous posts. Recent accurate info is what we need.

BJ.

What it looks like is: one poster does a mostly tl; dr review of a place. Sum up in, found a girl at a MP and in progress trying to find again. Another poster just complains about no number. If you say your helping, put down some info rather than ranting or at least chill out. I try looking up your post to find stuff, and all you got nothing lately except questions for others to answer.

On a happier note, I been around the Buddha area too but tried the other place across the street. Kinda jumbled up numbers here, I think there are at least 3-4 ladies working at any time. At least noticed 2 closed doors when I went once on a weekday night and there are more empty rooms. Starts at 200, but for FS from different ladies I got numbers from 380-500. No idea if theres a standard, and carrying only 300 wasn't the way to go. Maybe not everyone does it either. Want to see whats up with that tatted chick, maybe a waste of money tho.[/QUOTE]

I've been fucking a girl in one of the 'fuck me' shops close to where I live for over six months. I have no Chinese and she has no English. So yesterday I sent her a message as to my time of arrival and she responded. Got to the shop and she wasn't there. Damn. Most of the girls recognise me. I pick one. She refuses. What in hell is going on. She points to another girl, I hesitate. She points again and the girl smiles. They all smile. What the hell, I'm horny and need some of that pussy. I nod OK. We go to the room and the new girl gets out her phone and translates. She and the girl I had been fucking have talked. OK. We start and this girl is as good as the other. And she knows my moves and fucks me right royally. Same cost. As good a fuck as before.

There are about a dozen of what I call fuck me shops within 15 minute walk of where I live. The shop I go to at present cost me 400 rmb. The cheapest I've run across is 388 and it goes up to 488. 438 to 458 will get the job done. Shops have 3 to 6 girls depending on time of day and which day of the week. If you have some posts send me a pm.

[QUOTE=SebastianSH;1497787]Actually, if you are black or darker than average, you may get turned away at Manhattan completely. I have seen the boss lady at Manhattan kick out black patron before. However, if it seems like if a black patron is with a group of Asian / white patrons, then no issue at all.[/QUOTE]Could be it is because they are afraid about "drug dealing". A boss of a bar told me when ever he had trouble because of dealers in his pub, black guys where involved. Seems from Chinese view this business is occupied by black people. I don`t know if it is true or not, but at least Chinese think like that. All clubs here prefer to keep out drugs. Especially if they support prostitution in a way like Manhattan is doing. It should be very dangerous for them to get additional involved in drug dealing. So could be that is the reason why a group of black people scared the boss of Manhattan?

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1498067]Could be it is because they are afraid about "drug dealing". A boss of a bar told me when ever he had trouble because of dealers in his pub, black guys where involved. Seems from Chinese view this business is occupied by black people. I don`t know if it is true or not, but at least Chinese think like that. in drug dealing. ?[/QUOTE]Whilst I'm not in Shanghai, I am in another big city to the north that has many many black fellas in it.

And every night, when I'm walking home in my suit, looking like the respectable middle aged guy that I guess I am, I hear many

" Hey Papi, want something?" from every black guy I walk past.

Now I put earphones in, and when they say something to me I can happily ignore them.

How China tolerates this I'm not sure but I guess now that Africa is Chinas new BFF then anything goes.

[QUOTE=PlaceKicker;1497782]Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.[/QUOTE]You can try Gudao Health Spa Club on the Changning Road. It has more than 4massage girls offering Body Lick (BL) , HJ and BJ etc. Address: No. 1788, Changning Road, Changning District t.

Based on a recommendation from a senior member, I gave Miss Cathy a shot. She arrived a little bit late but nothing too bad given Shanghai traffic at times. She came well dressed which is nice in a residential area. With the recent talk of why she does not show her face, I was very glad to see that she has a super cute face. Great smile. After some discussions and a beverage, she showed the toys she brought. A quick shower and off to have fun. I would like to add that the photos on her website do not do a good job of showing her body. Her body in person is much nice than what is shown in the photos. She has great round ass, which would later by loads of fun for anal entrance. While few Chinese girls allow anal, even fewer seem to enjoy it. It would appear that Cathy enjoys a nice butt stuffing. Big bonus points for that. Actually, her general enthusiasm and "sex is fun" attitude make the whole thing better for me. I love that she also shaves her beaver daily. Nice to not fight a jungle of fur. I am not into rimming but for those who are, she has one of the longest tongues I have seen for a Chinese girl. I would definitely repeat with her.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1498470]I would like to add that the photos on her website do not do a good job of showing her body. Her body in person is much nice than what is shown in the photos. She has great round ass, which would later by loads of fun for anal entrance. While few Chinese girls allow anal, even fewer seem to enjoy it. It would appear that Cathy enjoys a nice butt stuffing. Big bonus points for that.[/QUOTE]I had a good time with her too. She was really slow and knows what she does. I would have really loved a long flowing hair on her. But who am I to complain.

She was worth it.

Nice report-she will like it-yes she is great!

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1498470]Based on a recommendation from a senior member, I gave Miss Cathy a shot. She arrived a little bit late but nothing too bad given Shanghai traffic at times. She came well dressed which is nice in a residential area. With the recent talk of why she does not show her face, I was very glad to see that she has a super cute face. Great smile. After some discussions and a beverage, she showed the toys she brought. A quick shower and off to have fun. I would like to add that the photos on her website do not do a good job of showing her body. Her body in person is much nice than what is shown in the photos. She has great round ass, which would later by loads of fun for anal entrance. While few Chinese girls allow anal, even fewer seem to enjoy it. It would appear that Cathy enjoys a nice butt stuffing. Big bonus points for that. Actually, her general enthusiasm and "sex is fun" attitude make the whole thing better for me. I love that she also shaves her beaver daily. Nice to not fight a jungle of fur. I am not into rimming but for those who are, she has one of the longest tongues I have seen for a Chinese girl. I would definitely repeat with her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Waldeck2; 1497998]I've been fucking a girl in one of the 'fuck me' shops close to where I live for over six months. I have no Chinese and she has no English. So yesterday I sent her a message as to my time of arrival and she responded. Got to the shop and she wasn't there. Damn. Most of the girls recognise me. I pick one. She refuses. What in hell is going on. She points to another girl, I hesitate. She points again and the girl smiles. They all smile. What the hell, I'm horny and need some of that pussy. I nod OK. We go to the room and the new girl gets out her phone and translates. She and the girl I had been fucking have talked. OK. We start and this girl is as good as the other. And she knows my moves and fucks me right royally. Same cost. As good a fuck as before.

There are about a dozen of what I call fuck me shops within 15 minute walk of where I live. The shop I go to at present cost me 400 rmb. The cheapest I've run across is 388 and it goes up to 488. 438 to 458 will get the job done. Shops have 3 to 6 girls depending on time of day and which day of the week. If you have some posts send me a pm.[/QUOTE]Waldeck2,

What kind of "shops" are you talking about? Pricing seems high for BBS and low for sauna.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1498815]Waldeck2,

What kind of "shops" are you talking about? Pricing seems high for BBS and low for sauna.

OAH[/QUOTE]Damn, I've never heard of BBS costing that high. I'm accustomed to 50. 150 rmb (10 to 30 minutes) from the BBS shops and the girls are young and not bad looking. Sometimes better looking than the sauna girls.

My 1st trip to Shanghai in a while, was going to try the Yuquan Pattaya Business Chamber but saw the warning on a website that it was previously raided by LE so decided to avoid. Took a walk along Huaihai Zhong Lu in Xuhui district and found this new joint called Leisure Club 633, I think it was previously named 633 Sauna and has just re-opened after renovation. It's located on the 6th floor of a complex near the intersection of Huaihai Zhong Lu and Sinan Road. From the street you will see this huge sign in Chinese that says 633 Sauna, even if you can't read Chinese '633' will still be quite large and prominent. This complex includes clothing stores in the 1st floor as well as other small businesses. From Huaihai Zhong Lu if you walk into the clothing store's front entrance you will notice a set of elevator to the right, it will take you up to 6th floor.

The facility was recently renovated: nice showers, a huge luxurious communal hot tub. The private rooms where the fun occurs are separated into 2 halves. The wet room has showers + bed for water / nuru massage, on the other side of the glass petition the dry room has usual queen size bed, with large mirrors on the sides and on the ceiling (love this feature) , there's also a TV in the room.

My 1st visit was 2 weeks ago on Wed afternoon at 2pm (opens at 1 pm) , was welcomed into the locker room, undressed, put belongings in the locker, corresponding key tied to your hand. Showered, took a dip in the hot tub, turned down the 40 RMB back rub, and promptly asked to see the girls. This is where I think this place is unique, the girls and the "action rooms" are located on a different floor. The staff directed me to an elevator which took me down to probably the 4th or 5th floor. It is not the same elevator I accessed from the street, in fact it's probably only accessible from within this establishment. In essence providing privacy and probably added safety feature should LE shows up. Once inside my room, a middle age mamasan came and explained to me that it's only the 2nd day of their opening and so they have only 2 girls to choose from! No wonder I only saw 2 other customer. Apparently the owner of this place also operates other similar joints in the area and he / she has yet to re-arrange the line-ups to meet the demands of this new place. Since I was there I wanted to see the 2 girls anyway, they were probably 6 and 7 in my opinion, I took the shorter girl (prob mid 20's) with the nicer boobs and it was a great choice. I speak passable Mandarin so we were able to communicate effectively. After a quick shower together, she asked me which massage I wanted and I said "shoi moi" (nuru massage) , it was my 1st and it was very satisfying, lots of body to body rubbing. Will leave it to your imaginations. Then off we went to the bed for some caressing, touching, follow by a quick cat bath (warm water in her mouth) , some BBBJ and rimming. She then took out couple pieces of lingeries and asked me to pick one, hello! I picked the see-thru fish net outfit (one of my fantasies) , it was magnificent, her boobs and butts were just popping out of there, and her semi bushy kitty looked so inviting underneath. After some more mutual caressing and groping I finally couldn't wait any longer, my little bro was brewing with anticipation as I parted her lingerie in the bottom. We did the usual cowgirl, mission, doggy, side straddle (per her request) , then finally finished by more missionary with her legs over my shoulders. It was like in a dream seeing my hot rod sliding in and out of that partially lingerie covered kitty, I had to stop several times in the middle of the action to avoid premature firing. It took all I could to last 10 minutes, when I easily could have exploded after 30 thrusts. I avoided DFK or DATY as I am trying to playing it safe-are. All in all it was one of the best sex I have had. As for the girl her English name was Lina, from the province of Fujian, unfortunately I forgot her tag number. Her face was a 7, body 8, attitude initially was 7 but became 9 as time progressed. Afterwards I was led up stairs again to a private relaxation room where I was offered 1 complimentary beverage and 1 food item (2nd items costs 10 RMB or more) and watched TV for 30 minutes before checking out. I didn't see anyone coming around offering any services like feet / neck massages, perhaps this place is still new, but I was cool with it.

My 2nd visit was last Friday around 2 pm and the selection was better. I was told there were 8 girls on duty, but only 2 are available as the others are "occupied", so I told the manager I will take my time in the shower and the hot tub and wait for more girls to be available. I didn't have to wait long, about 20 minutes later the manager gave me the thumbs up and led me down stairs, this time 6 girls came into my room. Ranges from 6 to 8 in my opinion but no 9's or 10's still, I didn't see Lina this time around so perhaps she was still 'occupied'. Initially I was attracted to a tall chick with a school girl look: long hair and glasses, she has a nice full figure that's popping out of her half buttoned white shirt, unfortunately her facial expression made it clear that she was not in the mood. Instead I choose a smiling petite (5'2" ish) girl from Czechuan with a nice slim body, nice butt and a C cup I guessed. Her number is #899, she never gave me her name and I never asked. After the quick shower she gave me the nuru massage which was even better than my previous experience, I especially enjoy the part where she was titty-massaging my feet. Afterwards we moved onto the main chamber and did the usual, cat bath, BBBJ, rimming which she was less enthusiastic of, in fact she asked if I wanted it. She didn't offer to dress in any costumes or outfits and we went straight for sex. As you can imagine the action was not as thrilling as my previous Lina, but still her nice slim well-proportioned body was very enjoyable. Afterwards we cuddled and talked for about 10-15 min before checking out.

Overall I think Leisure club 633 provides a luxurious, safe environment for a gentleman to relax. Hopefully there will be more and better talents there in the future, however I think quality of the girls is hit or miss like most places. Since I spoke passable Mandarin with the staff and the girls I am unable to determine their 2nd language skills.

Hope that helps, will be back in Shanghai prob next year.

I've mongered in many countries, but when I started mongering in China, I didn't know about this forum and it was my first time mongering without a local monger showing me the ropes. So, my first time in a BBS, I was quoted 800, LOL just LOL. I negotiated it down to 300. And this is what I now pay at my favorite BBSs with no negotiating. But from the local friends that I've made, they have all told me they only pay 100-150. I've tried to negotiate that price when I'm on my own, but the girls never budge below 300 thinking that I'm a rich Laowai, even when I try out new BBSs. They've even let me walk out.

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet;1498819]Damn, I've never heard of BBS costing that high. I'm accustomed to 50. 150 rmb (10 to 30 minutes) from the BBS shops and the girls are young and not bad looking. Sometimes better looking than the sauna girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1498470]Based on a recommendation from a senior member, I gave Miss Cathy a shot. I would definitely repeat with her.[/QUOTE]I searched on this forum about Miss Cathy to no result. Did I miss anything such as an early report or information on her?

I recall a MILF who was hot (and a bit strange in her psyche, but not dangerous) and willing to meet in monger hotel, but I can't remember if she was this one mentioned nowadays.

[QUOTE=Emzchi; 1461988]Hi to all,

For whose like BBS (even just for the price.) in all Anyuan road there are several ones active.

In particular, if you come from Change road, when you arrive to Anyuan road, you can find them just turning left, on the right side and also turning right and going along Anyuan road, crossing the next street, checking on the left.

I've tried only FS. Damage is 300RMB.

Starting from Anyuan road and goind to the south along Shanxii road, I think you can find 2-3 on the left side, near Kangping and Xinzha roads.

Does anyone know some one else in the area (not Pudong)?[/QUOTE]Hi to all,

It looks that all BBSs in Anyuan road have closed. Police raid? Do you have news?

Thanks

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1498915]I searched on this forum about Miss Cathy to no result. Did I miss anything such as an early report or information on her?

I recall a MILF who was hot (and a bit strange in her psyche, but not dangerous) and willing to meet in monger hotel, but I can't remember if she was this one mentioned nowadays.[/QUOTE]They're two different women, Cathy is also listed in the Classified Section. The other woman was Angela, a hooker (who didn't believe she was a hooker) who demanded f2f customer interviews prior to any action (LOL!).

[QUOTE=Mrpatsfan;1498896]My 1st trip to Shanghai in a while, was going to try the Yuquan Pattaya Business Chamber but saw the warning on a website that it was previously raided by LE so decided to avoid. Took a walk along Huaihai Zhong Lu in Xuhui district and found this new joint called Leisure Club 633, I think it was previously named 633 Sauna and has just re-opened after renovation.[/QUOTE]Excellent report, seems similar to the KL spa scene with the free food and drink. What sort of dishes did they offer? How much was it total?

[QUOTE=Midwestern;1498910]I've mongered in many countries, but when I started mongering in China, I didn't know about this forum and it was my first time mongering without a local monger showing me the ropes. So, my first time in a BBS, I was quoted 800, LOL just LOL. I negotiated it down to 300. And this is what I now pay at my favorite BBSs with no negotiating. But from the local friends that I've made, they have all told me they only pay 100-150. I've tried to negotiate that price when I'm on my own, but the girls never budge below 300 thinking that I'm a rich Laowai, even when I try out new BBSs. They've even let me walk out.[/QUOTE]Midwestern,

It is true. My experience exactly. Depending on the place / quality ratio, the local price is 100-200 RMB. I can never get it either although I do not monger in SH that often. They just let me walk. It must be an internal deal with the girls that they must earn more for laowai. That said, I have been successful for 300 RMB takeout several time.

Just mu POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Mike921;1498966]They're two different women, Cathy is also listed in the Classified Section. The other woman was Angela, a hooker (who didn't believe she was a hooker) who demanded f2f customer interviews prior to any action (LOL!).[/QUOTE]Oh yeah. That was Angela, now I recall the interviews she wanted to conduct in the hotel lobby before going up, right? I will read the classified, didn't think about a search there.

Pm box is full.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1498815]Waldeck2,

What kind of "shops" are you talking about? Pricing seems high for BBS and low for sauna.

OAH[/QUOTE]

I will be making my first visit to Shanghai in December and would like to know if there are any saunas or BBS near the Yuyuan Garden metro station.

I would also like to know how late BBS in Shanghai are open as every time I travel to Asia I have jetlag and wake up in the middle of the night.

Seems to be around midnight, but a little later on weekends. Chinese people aren't generally late night people.

[QUOTE=Ungus; 1499238]I will be making my first visit to Shanghai in December and would like to know if there are any saunas or BBS near the Yuyuan Garden metro station.

I would also like to know how late BBS in Shanghai are open as every time I travel to Asia I have jetlag and wake up in the middle of the night.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Midwestern!

After doing some research, I found 2 saunas in the area that are open until 2AM and one that is 24 hours.

633 Sauna (1PM. 2AM)

Address: 6 / F, Xuebao Mall, No. 633, Huaihai Middle Road, Huangpu District.

Phone: 15221381526.

Thanks to Mrpatsfan for the reviews.

Baiyulan Hotel Sauna (1PM. 2AM)

Address: At the First Floor of Baiyulan Hotel, No. 456, Xieshi Road, Huangpu District.

Phone: 18621345604.

Riverview Hotel Sauna (24 hours)

Address: 3 / f, Riverview Hotel, No 76 South Zhongshan Road, Huangpu District.

Phone: 86-21 63306060.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;1499297]Seems to be around midnight, but a little later on weekends. Chinese people aren't generally late night people.[/QUOTE]

Two of my massage gal regulars in Jingan get of work at 6 and 9am. Other get off at 2am if no customers show up beforehand.

S.

Eems to be around midnight, but a little later on weekends. Chinese people aren't generally late night people.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Sorry and new here. First of all, thanks if you can help.

The Buddha place at Changping lu near Shaanxi lu just change management.

Just wondering if anyone know where the old management and the girls gone to?

Thanks again.

Angela was fun but moved to Cambodia last June with husband.

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1498915]I searched on this forum about Miss Cathy to no result. Did I miss anything such as an early report or information on her?

I recall a MILF who was hot (and a bit strange in her psyche, but not dangerous) and willing to meet in monger hotel, but I can't remember if she was this one mentioned nowadays.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johnny1976; 1499593]Hi,

Sorry and new here. First of all, thanks if you can help.

The Buddha place at Changping lu near Shaanxi lu just change management.

Just wondering if anyone know where the old management and the girls gone to?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I went there last week and probably got the new management. Prices have changed. 338 for BJ and 278 HJ. I suggest you get #2. No more than a 7, but nice big tits, and seemed new to the place so willing to do a good job. Normal massage 20 min, then tits massage on your back, the flip, and finished with a nice BBBJ CIM after playing a lot with her, she even allowed DATY. No tips at all

[QUOTE=Mgp23;1499627]I went there last week and probably got the new management. Prices have changed. 338 for BJ and 278 HJ. I suggest you get #2. No more than a 7, but nice big tits, and seemed new to the place so willing to do a good job. Normal massage 20 min, then tits massage on your back, the flip, and finished with a nice BBBJ CIM after playing a lot with her, she even allowed DATY. No tips at all[/QUOTE]Thanks Mgp23. Any idea where the old management girls gone to? The girls then was better.

[QUOTE=Masslin;1498458]You can try Gudao Health Spa Club on the Changning Road. It has more than 4massage girls offering Body Lick (BL) , HJ and BJ etc. Address: No. 1788, Changning Road, Changning District t.[/QUOTE]Checked this place out and not sure what's on the menu. Never asked by guys at the desk or girl, no real upsell or anything. Pretty standard fare, about all of note was the chic liking rough grabbing of her smallish boobs. Where I've seen some say require absolute lightest touching, this one was like grinding for more when I was tryin not to hurt her. Didn't really last long tho, she actually gave up after 10 minutes from being tired. Didn't go for double time, then she basically was saying finish in one minute or that's it. Maybe its a thing against foreign, I dunno, Is there something I should know?

the girls rep001ter with the wind. we'll have to wait for reports of the bros that toft in the jingan area. that's why it's good to get their cell # or weixin, qq. then we can even refer our friends to them. i'm in usa now and keep in touch with a few isg bros that i have not met yet. we share notes and phone numbers

bj

[QUOTE=Supmam; 1497270]I'm coming into Shanghai in a weeks time and have a few good days to myself.

I've got my sights on a Sauna like Pattaya and Sacrosanct but had a couple of concerns. Don't want to get all that way to be refused entry at the door.

Firstly, how foreigner friendly are they? Should I expect racism (I'm of South Asian descent but usually get mistaken for Turkish or Italian). Secondly, having a physical impairment (does not affect walking, talking, mind, dick) going to cause problems either? My most recent experiences in walk-in places in BKK are all positive and walk-in places in Malaysia as well. But I'm guessing China's a bit different? Or is it all in my mind?

I also thought I'd like to try my luck at Malones where I heard older filipinas hang out. But my last experience at a bar in Singapore (OT) was total waste of time as the ladies just stayed away from me. So any thoughts on Malones? I'd like to give it a go and happy for it to be unsuccesful just for the experience. Another one of those unknown unknowns to quote the great Donald Rumsfeld. LOL.

I see that a lot of the private / high-end WL's are usually after white guys with money so I'm happy to avoid them but don't want to waste my time. Of course a report at the end of the trip will be forthcoming.[/QUOTE]Both saunas you've mentioned have a very "factory-like" mentality- you get in, you line up and wait, you pick a girl (hopefully not exhausted already) , you get in and do your business. I find Pattaya a very local oriented place so the girls might be more adverse to serving non-Chinese. You might have better luck with the second one.

You can't really generalize on how the girls will respond to a non-Chinese face, with or without a physical impairment. Most probably have limited experience and may not know what to do.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1499615]Angela was fun but moved to Cambodia last June with husband.[/QUOTE]Oh, sweet Angela is now in Cambodia?

What a pity: she had surplus energy and I was happy to help her burn some of it off!

Memorable.

Zai jian, Angela.

P13

Hi all,

I'm going to be in Shanghai in early January. I'm staying at the Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Does anyone know if there is much going on in this hotel? Apparently there is a night club / bar on the top floor and also massage. I won't be able to venture too far while I'm staying here so looking to get anything I can from there if possible.

[QUOTE=Mottage; 1500302]Hi all,

I'm going to be in Shanghai in early January. I'm staying at the Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Does anyone know if there is much going on in this hotel? Apparently there is a night club / bar on the top floor and also massage. I won't be able to venture too far while I'm staying here so looking to get anything I can from there if possible.[/QUOTE]Sorry to disappoint you but ZERO happening inside hotel or in 789 Nanjing Lu Bar on 65th floor. You need to 'catch and kill' outside hotel and drag the carcass home to feed your animalistic desires.

Thanks Billy, have you stayed there before? Is the Lu bar worth wasting any time there?

Is there anything worth visiting within walking distance from the hotel?

Brothers.

Going to Shanghai today. Just got to know that I've been booked at Marriott City Centre. Now the problem is I have a regular girl visit me in Shanghai And usually stay till very late. Now I'd like to know if the Marriott City Centre is girl friendly or not. This is my first time in this hotel. If anyone know anything about it please let me know. I'll be checking in late as well. So no question of taking the girl in the room early.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy;1500565]Sorry to disappoint you but ZERO happening inside hotel or in 789 Nanjing Lu Bar on 65th floor. You need to 'catch and kill' outside hotel and drag the carcass home to feed your animalistic desires.[/QUOTE]BBB,

Glad to see you are still posting mate. You always have a great way to describe our favorite hobby even if it is not always the whole truth. I sure miss the African girl you and I both fell in love with for her great smile. ;-)))

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Mottage; 1500587]Thanks Billy, have you stayed there before? Is the Lu bar worth wasting any time there?

Is there anything worth visiting within walking distance from the hotel?[/QUOTE]There'a Sauna called Wugong Hotel Sauna near your hotel.

Address:No. 431, Fuzhou Road.

The sauna is about 1km to Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Waiting for your report!

[QUOTE=PlaceKicker;1499791]Checked this place out and not sure what's on the menu. Never asked by guys at the desk or girl, no real upsell or anything. Pretty standard fare, about all of note was the chic liking rough grabbing of her smallish boobs. Where I've seen some say require absolute lightest touching, this one was like grinding for more when I was tryin not to hurt her. Didn't really last long tho, she actually gave up after 10 minutes from being tired. Didn't go for double time, then she basically was saying finish in one minute or that's it. Maybe its a thing against foreign, I dunno, Is there something I should know?[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

As I know girls there will be happy if they are given tips. Also they serve the consumers they like warmly.

[QUOTE=Mgp23;1499627]I went there last week and probably got the new management. Prices have changed. 338 for BJ and 278 HJ. I suggest you get #2. No more than a 7, but nice big tits, and seemed new to the place so willing to do a good job. Normal massage 20 min, then tits massage on your back, the flip, and finished with a nice BBBJ CIM after playing a lot with her, she even allowed DATY. No tips at all[/QUOTE]Not sure this place will survive a raid, the girls are almost naked in the back room, my lady was wrapped in a piece of netting.

[QUOTE=Mottage; 1500587]Thanks Billy, have you stayed there before? Is the Lu bar worth wasting any time there?

Is there anything worth visiting within walking distance from the hotel?[/QUOTE][B]YES[/B] have stayed this hotel many times and [B]NO[/B] [B]DO NOT[/B] waste your time in 789 Nanjing Lu bar on 65th floor. [B]ZERO [/B]action there.

There is a hoare house / kinda sauna on 4th or 6th floor of the fake market building at 580 Nanjing Lu. 20mtrs inside front door take exit door to left. Turn right. Go up in elevator. I think its 4th floor. RMB700 IIRC for 90 mins.[QUOTE=Masslin;1500790]There'a Sauna called Wugong Hotel Sauna near your hotel.

Address:No. 431, Fuzhou Road.

The sauna is about 1km to Le Royal Meridien Shanghai. Waiting for your report![/QUOTE]Don't know this place but if Masslin quotes it it will be ok.

If you are happy to trawl up and down Nanjing Lu pedestrian walkway bw 6 to 8pm you should be able to [B]'hook' [/B]something if you know how to [B]'bait the hook'[/B] - I met 2 sisters here one morning at 8:30am and arranged they call me later that day at 6:00pm to come to LRM which they did.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy; 1501390][B]YES[/B]

If you are happy to trawl up and down Nanjing Lu pedestrian walkway bw 6 to 8pm you should be able to [B]'hook' [/B]something if you know how to [B]'bait the hook'[/B]. I met 2 sisters here one morning at 8:30am and arranged they call me later that day at 6:00pm to come to LRM which they did.[/QUOTE]But if you are not very experienced, I would NEVER recommend to make any deals with the pimps on Nanjing Lu. Also most of the girls there are pimps and will not show up in your room for themself, and there are plenty of stories about guys who dealed with boys or girls on that road and lost 20 000 RMB and more. You can find some real stories if you use the search funktion here (Nanjing Lu Scam).

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy;1501390]If you are happy to trawl up and down Nanjing Lu pedestrian walkway bw 6 to 8pm you should be able to [B]'hook' [/B]something if you know how to [B]'bait the hook'[/B][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1501414]But if you are not very experienced, I would NEVER recommend to make any deals with the pimps on Nanjing Lu.[/QUOTE]But not everybody is a simpleton who will get scammed. I did say if you know how to[B] 'bait the hook'[/B] - and I did say I dealt direct with the girls - can't quite see where I mentioned pimps - hoares can be scooped up anywhere anytime if you know what you are doing.

I have picked up a hoare coming out of subway line outside Hua Ting Hotel / I have picked up a hoare waiting in Maccas on Nanjing Lu / I have picked up a hoare in China Mobile service ctr one street back from Nanjing Lu - you are surrounded by them in China - just [B]'bait the hook - cast the line - who knows what might bite'[/B]

Hey guys,

I have a unique question. A female friend of mine and me want to do a threesome. I already feel blessed with that. But we want to hire the second girl to come to our hotel for 1 or 2 hours.

Where do we find a girl that actually chose for the business? Hiring a girl if she enjoys sex and the job is fine for us. If she has been forced to do it, we don't want to do it.

How do you know she wants to do a threesome and more? So not just a massage and HE for me, but everything with both of us.

What is the price?

What should I look out for?

Any website or girl recommendations?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Thenewguy42; 1503249]Hey guys,

I have a unique question. A female friend of mine and me want to do a threesome. I already feel blessed with that. But we want to hire the second girl to come to our hotel for 1 or 2 hours.

Where do we find a girl that actually chose for the business? Hiring a girl if she enjoys sex and the job is fine for us. If she has been forced to do it, we don't want to do it.

How do you know she wants to do a threesome and more? So not just a massage and HE for me, but everything with both of us.

What is the price?

What should I look out for?

Any website or girl recommendations?

Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.shanghaihotescorts.com/[/url]

There are some girls who advertise 3some. Don't have any experience with this website so if you do try it please post a review.

I am staying at the Ramada Gateway hotel in Puxi (Tian yao qiao road). Does anybody know a place in Puxi?

I have to take a taxi and I have to make my rmb last 3-4 days so I'd rather not waste too much of it on cab fare.

Can anybody recommend a place in Puxi? Sauna or nuru or massage in puxi? Along with maybe a contact number so that I can make a reservation?

I would be extremely grateful.

[QUOTE=TheNewGuy42; 1503249]Hey guys,

I have a unique question. A female friend of mine and me want to do a threesome. I already feel blessed with that. But we want to hire the second girl to come to our hotel for 1 or 2 hours.

Where do we find a girl that actually chose for the business? Hiring a girl if she enjoys sex and the job is fine for us. If she has been forced to do it, we don't want to do it.

How do you know she wants to do a threesome and more? So not just a massage and HE for me, but everything with both of us.

What is the price?

What should I look out for?

Any website or girl recommendations?

Thanks[/QUOTE]It depends what kind of threesome your girlfriend expect to have. Most Chinese girls have no problem to "share" the guy, but they are "afraid" of any "lesbian action". So if your girlfriend also want to enjoy the 3rd party, than better check it in advanced and select carefull. Most escort girls I know will offer 3some, but I met only one girl who also offer lesbian action.

Another way is to go to Manhattan together and pick up a vietnamese girl. There are several girls who also offer lesbian action, but you also should clear that with the girl before you take her home.

With the shanghaihotescort-page you should be a little bit carefull, because 99% of the ads there are placed by agencies who normally will agree to lesbian action, even the girl who show up later will not do it. And also no agency there will work with real pictures and profiles, so the girl who show up will not be even similar to the profile in the web.

In Shanghai again this week, I was having lunch with a couple of veteran mongers and esteemed members of this forum and local residents in Shanghai. After lunch, my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners, but for 120 RMB BBBJCIM, I was not complaining. I was escorted out the back into a standard cubicle with a massage table against the wall. Being it was a bit cold, I only took off my pants and shoes and hopped up onto the table to get started. The service was very good and the girl had those,"suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" skills.

About 10 minutes along, there was some screaming and the girl bolted. Next thing I know, three LE are looking into the cubicle at me, half dressed with a boner sticking out as I am trying to get my pants on fast. Lucky for us, one of them just said was "Go, Go" and motioned towards the front of the shop. Obviously, I finished dressing up and took his suggestion. One of my mates hid in the toilet. We were waiting outside and gave the all clear when the LE left and he came out. As it turned out, it was just a warning call that there would be a crackdown and that they should not open for business the next day.

Call me a fool but I wanted to go back after they drove off since I did not pop. They welcomed me back with open arms and "mouth" to finish the job.

This was a wake up call that we should remember that our hobby is not legal in China and we should not get complacent. We got lucky this time but we could have just as easily been taken "downtown" should we have been there on the wrong day. Be careful my friends.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1504199]In Shanghai again this week, I was having lunch with a couple of veteran mongers and esteemed members of this forum and local residents in Shanghai. After lunch, my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners, but for 120 RMB BBBJCIM, I was not complaining. I was escorted out the back into a standard cubicle with a massage table against the wall. Being it was a bit cold, I only took off my pants and shoes and hopped up onto the table to get started. The service was very good and the girl had those,"suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" skills.

About 10 minutes along, there was some screaming and the girl bolted. Next thing I know, three LE are looking into the cubicle at me, half dressed with a boner sticking out as I am trying to get my pants on fast. Lucky for us, one of them just said was "Go, Go" and motioned towards the front of the shop. Obviously, I finished dressing up and took his suggestion. One of my mates hid in the toilet. We were waiting outside and gave the all clear when the LE left and he came out. As it turned out, it was just a warning call that there would be a crackdown and that they should not open for business the next day.

Call me a fool but I wanted to go back after they drove off since I did not pop. They welcomed me back with open arms and "mouth" to finish the job.

This was a wake up call that we should remember that our hobby is not legal in China and we should not get complacent. We got lucky this time but we could have just as easily been taken "downtown" should we have been there on the wrong day. Be careful my friends.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]Glad I could participate in your near arrest! Don't return the favor!

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1504199]In Shanghai again this week, I was having lunch with a couple of veteran mongers and esteemed members of this forum and local residents in Shanghai. After lunch, my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners, but for 120 RMB BBBJCIM, I was not complaining. I was escorted out the back into a standard cubicle with a massage table against the wall. Being it was a bit cold, I only took off my pants and shoes and hopped up onto the table to get started. The service was very good and the girl had those,"suck the chrome off a trailer hitch" skills.

About 10 minutes along, there was some screaming and the girl bolted. Next thing I know, three LE are looking into the cubicle at me, half dressed with a boner sticking out as I am trying to get my pants on fast. Lucky for us, one of them just said was "Go, Go" and motioned towards the front of the shop. Obviously, I finished dressing up and took his suggestion...[/QUOTE]I went to Shanghai a few years ago. I went into a couple of the window girl shops. When I got back to the states and told my friend from Shanghai he yelled at me and told me to dangerous. There are plain cloths police that sneak into the shop and do busts. If there is one thing Chinese hate is not Chinese banging their woman. If a US citizen is caught in one of these places. He will be banned from entering China for life. Also some stamp or something will be added to your passport for everyone to see.

Join our Shanghai Nightlife KTV Party on this Friday (6th).

This time we changed to a more "uperclass" KTV with better rooms and High Class girls selection.

They also have "student" girls (young Chinese girls in student uniforms) for selection, so if you like it, come over!

If you like to join us, than feel free to show up tonight.

How will it work:

- The party fee for the evening is 800 RMB for each of us including all room and crew fee and a (nearly) free flow of beer and soft drinks.

"nearly" means, if we are too less guys and drink to much, could be we have to change to "paid drinks" after some hour (beer 35 each bottle).

- Our party start tonight (this Friday 6th of December) at 7 pm with a short introduction, than around 7:30 we will select the girls.

- The sitting fee will be 500 for a normal girl. 600 for "special" ones. 700 for a model (and they have REALLY HOT girls there)

- In our party we will nearly not singing (so you should not be afraid about that) , but play and drink together and with the girls.

- Sitting fee in our KTV also include a lot of naughty games with touching and so on (the girls will be sometimes topless or take off their underwear).

- If you like to take out your girl, short time fee will be 1500, overnight 2000 RMB. We also have a "arrangement" with the mamasan, so if you like to pick up a sexy young Chinese girl there instead of taking a viet girl in Manhattan, you can contact our regular Mamasan and only pay the Mamasan Fee (RMB 600) and select your girl, no room or party necessary any more, so it is also a good investment for your future pickup adventure.

If you are new to the "KTV-Party-Thing" or never checked out a naughty KTV, you should take this chance and join our party.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;1504199]my gracious host took us to a BJ place on the outskirts of town. Certainly not stunners,[/QUOTE]IMHO [B]YES[/B] you should have been [B][I]arrested[/I][/B] years ago considering some of the [B]hoares[/B] I have seen you fraternise with in days gone by.

[QUOTE=Formerlybnc;1504324]Glad I could participate in your near arrest! Don't return the favor![/QUOTE]Truth be told, Formerlybnc was the gracious host to whom I referred in my post. We have been mongering together for over a decade. He took me to the original BJ factory in Shanghai and we roamed "The Village" BBS area together in days gone by.

This is not the first time a place or area has been raided while I was present. Knock on wood, I have been lucky and never been arrested or taken in for questioning. I remember talking extensively about this subject with one LE in Shenzhen, Sha Tsui. He told me that arresting laowai in China is very complicated, like triple the paperwork and so much hassle that most LE don't want to mess with it. This is why they just give you a warning and let you go. He advised me that it is best to just come into an area, get a pop and split, rather than hang around, roam the streets and hunt too long. It makes sense because we stick out like a sore thumb and it is obvious to the locals why we are there.

Just my POV.

OAH.

P. S. Don't worry Formerlybnc, I will not return the favor!

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy;1504530]IMHO [B]YES[/B] you should have been [B][I]arrested[/I][/B] years ago considering some of the [B]hoares[/B] I have seen you fraternise with in days gone by.[/QUOTE]BBB,

OK, there was one girl in Maggies that I felt sorry for years ago and the price was a bargain. Ok, she was a little on the heavy side but she worked extra hard tomake up for it. I will never live this down!

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1504592]BBB,

OK, there was one girl in Maggies that I felt sorry for years ago and the price was a bargain. Ok, she was a little on the heavy side but she worked extra hard tomake up for it. I will never live this down!

OAH[/QUOTE]And whilst on the topic of you being a [B][I]cheapskate [/I][/B]- why don't you tell the whole board how you negotiated that [B]'poor old rickshaw pedalling single mother of 9 hungry children'[/B] down from RMB10 to RMB5 to transport you, me and that big-titted blonde Mongolian hoare from [B]New Hollywood [/B]to [B]Maggies[/B] one night in [B]Beijing[/B]. What a callous heartless man!

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy;1504645]And whilst on the topic of you being a [B][I]cheapskate [/I][/B]- why don't you tell the whole board how you negotiated that [B]'poor old rickshaw pedalling single mother of 9 hungry children'[/B] down from RMB10 to RMB5 to transport you, me and that big-titted blonde Mongolian hoare from [B]New Hollywood [/B]to [B]Maggies[/B] one night in [B]Beijing[/B]. What a callous heartless man![/QUOTE]BBB,

As I remember, the "big-titted, blonde Mongolian was transported in the back of Andy's van from Café Decco to Maggies that night. I vaguely remember a rickshaw but I do remember we decided to walk between Hollywood and Absinthe since it was so close.

Just my POV.

OAH

So thanks to advice from the board I went to Sacrosa on a Friday afternoon in Shanghai. Excuse the chronology of the events, but I'm going to detail most things here. I went at about 2:30pm.

From the hotel near Nanjing Lu to Sacrosa cost me 48 RMB, pretty expensive because the driver basically had no clue. Perhaps that was by design, don't know, but it was probably 5 RMB more than it should be. He went around the block then did a U-turn, then shot past it. I only recognised Sacrosa because of pictures of the building on the net. Seems to me Shanghai taxi drivers don't like maps and don't like GPS systems. And like driving very fast. Walked into the building entry on the left, past all the restaurants and up to the fifth floor. Some sweet young things got in with me (please be available) but they got out at higher floors. All up Sacrosa is easy to find if you have the directions and is on a busy street albeit a little set back from the road. Search the net for images before you go.

Anyway, they seem quite foreigner friendly, as I was pointed in the right directions to the communal change room where everyone stripping off. Lots of helpers. When in Rome. Into the communal showers. I had a towel to carry with me but the locals seem quite blase about male nudity. Shower, then straight to the drying area and on with the boxer shorts and shirt. Kind nice to be freewheeling.

Once dried, led to a "room" that stank of smoke. I think the locals like to rest, chillax etc before the main course. The guy came for me but I asked him for a few minutes. There is a tall guy here who speaks good English so it could flow. He then led me to a small reception area and introduced me to about 15 women line up. There is no one-way mirror like in Annie's in Thailand. They can see you and you can see them. As discussed before, my appearance makes it hard to find the right one. Or perhaps that's Sacrosa girls who look generally miserable? Most looked unhappy or avoided eye contact. 212 kept good eye contact and smiled and that's enough for me. Not a fussy guy. As I've said in previous reviews, I'm not oil painting, so as long as the girl is happy to go with me, I'm okay as well. 212 was pretty in a round faced way. Not aqualine features but nice tits, curvy figure and pleasant demeanour. And of course no English.

In to the room, she brought me a drink of warm water, then stripped off and revealed a pleasant figure. Definitely doable.

Started with a massage of legs, back arms, then flip over and massage of front. Pleasant although a little straightforward. She then started with the action, first came the blow job. She actually had a great slow technique, with hot water. Unfortunately due to language barriers she only went for three or four minutes and when I said slow down she thought I meant stop. DAMN! It was really nice but far too short.

Then onto some rimming in two positions, first lifting my leg into a corkscrew around hers then on my stomach again. Once again, nice, a little too short. Not as good as Thailand but Shanghai is another country.

Finally onto the main act, her on top, then doggy on the edge of the bed, and then missionary. No DATY allowed but licking of breasts okay. I played it out as long as I could before coming at the 30 minute mark. All good.

After reading the reviews, I expected the next part. Which was by the numbers massage with no attempt at round 2. We tried to talk but language made it a pretty difficult experience. So much so I wanted to leave early, but she wouldn't let me, which was disappointing as it was pretty boring being naked, unable to do anything more and unable to communicate further. She did try a limp HJ towards the end to fill in time which made me smile more than anything else. A final ok to reception, shower, dry and pay 560 RMB and on my way.

Things I liked about Sacrosa. The girl was cute, pleasant and gave a decent service if only for 30 minutes. The facilities are ok. There is someone who speaks English. It's cheap. And when I wanted a taxi to my next spot, the English speaker took me to the road and hailed a cab for me and explained to the (useless) driver where to go.

Things I didn't like. More a general comment about Shanghai mongering. A lack of Chinese speaking ability on my part or even broken English on their part makes it nigh impossible to really get what the monger wants. I can understand why the guys on the board pay more for girls at Manhattan with all its risk because the level of English will be higher. But that's a minor quibble as 70 mins cost me around $100 USD which is cheap enough. And I enjoyed myself.

All up, although the desire was there to do more. Visit Pattaya or 1066 or Judy's, I left Shanghai satisfied that I'd seen enough of the Shanghai Sauna scene to not bother with those on this trip.

I will say one thing. Chinese local women are pretty damn cute if you have yellow fever and I reckon most men who don't have yellow fever before will have it in Shanghai at some stage. They dress so well. Anyway, I met a few local non-P4P women. One works at a bank and another in HR (met her in the hot tub of the hotel pool) to think I have some interesting leads to chase up next time. Both spoke excellent English and seem intrigued by foreigners (or perhaps their wallets, LOL).

In summary, I reckon the P4P sauna scene is great if you speak the local language, but for me, chasing local non-pros was much more fun.

Hi guys,

Hope that someone can comment on the Paramount hotel next to Jing An temple; is it girl friendly or do I need to be cautious? Am new to Shanghai, used to play a little in the Guangdong province.

My company made arrangements in this hotel and I've been reading the forum yet couldn't find anything. Appreciate if someone may have info.

Thanks

Cathy. Shanghai.

One truly incredible lady.

I was lucky enough to enjoy her company thru dinner and breakfast on the weekend with a full night of sex, that rates as just one of the best I have had anywhere in the world.

She is classy and sexy with a good sense of humour.

And she loves her sex every way possible.

Her skills include:

The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible.

A real deep throat specialist who likes to feel your cock in her throat.

A luscious clit and pussy and the most sensitive tits.

You will need to get your tongue ready for she loves DATY and her DFK showed skills of a true artist.

Cathy's prowess with sex toys was only matched by my own 20 years experience.

Making her come on numerous occasions was just so memorable.

So treat her with respect and you will get the best escort that Shanghai can offer.

Is 560 rmb the standard rate for. Sacrosa? I thought most saunas were in the 800 range?

[QUOTE=Skepti10;1506074]Is 560 rmb the standard rate for. Sacrosa? I thought most saunas were in the 800 range?[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, Sacrosa is a dry sauna, which means no bubble bath / oil play, hence the price difference.

Most saunas in the 800 range feature nuru massage or the wet bath.

[QUOTE=Peter Christo; 1506054]Cathy. Shanghai.

One truly incredible lady.

I was lucky enough to enjoy her company thru dinner and breakfast on the weekend with a full night of sex, that rates as just one of the best I have had anywhere in the world.

She is classy and sexy with a good sense of humour.

And she loves her sex every way possible.

Her skills include:

The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible.

A real deep throat specialist who likes to feel your cock in her throat.

A luscious clit and pussy and the most sensitive tits.

You will need to get your tongue ready for she loves DATY and her DFK showed skills of a true artist.

Cathy's prowess with sex toys was only matched by my own 20 years experience.

Making her come on numerous occasions was just so memorable.

So treat her with respect and you will get the best escort that Shanghai can offer.[/QUOTE]Your very first post on ISG! Welcome to the board.

If nothing else, you are an excellent writer; I can't recall ever reading language such as "The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible" on ISG in the past. However, you forgot to include some key info, such as how much you paid her, did you give her a tip, did she come to your hotel or did you visit her at her incall spot, etc.

You also forgot to mention that Cathy's web site says that she will only see "White Western Males", which eliminates a significant percentage of ISG's readers and members.

Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10%? 25%? 50%? or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1506112]Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10% 25% 50% or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?[/QUOTE]Shock! Horror! Jumps back in astonishment. You mean people plant fake reviews! Oh my goodness! There's no integrity left in the world!

Mongers must unite to stop this from happening! I need to rest and have a cup of tea having heard this shocking news!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1506125]Shock! Horror! Jumps back in astonishment. You mean people plant fake reviews! Oh my goodness! Theres no integrity left in the world!

Mongers must unite to stop this from happening! I need to rest and have a cup of tea having heard this shocking news. ! .[/QUOTE]Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.

I have been mongering in China longer than you've had pubes or an erection.

I might be new to be a member but I have been watching ISG for a long time.

Cathy is genuine and am pleased to give her the highest accolades.

If you don't want to share my real experience with her. Fine.

Then us who do, will experience her, will have the best.

You can have seconds or thirds.

If you want send me a private message and I will advise my China cell and you can speak to me direct.

By the way, if you don't want to hear about my mongering from last week in Guangzhou then.

I spend 50% of year in China and you learn a lot. Good and bad.

With the bad I prefer not to dwell on it. But the good should be praised.

And that is what I did with Cathy.

She was well worth the $ and I surprised with my own tricks.

My experience is wide reaching from Shanghai, Guangzhou, Fuzhou, Wenzhou, Ruian, Taizhou, Dongguan Houjie & Changping, Jinjiang, Nanhai Guilin, Nanjing and more.

Probably more girls than you've had hot breakfasts as the saying goes.

But there are more cities I haven't tried yet.

Onwards we go.

So call me anything you like. But inexperienced I am not.

Over to you.

Very well formulated, and I guess no need to waste any more "ink". I enjoyed her and she was great.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1506125]Shock! Horror! Jumps back in astonishment. You mean people plant fake reviews! Oh my goodness! Theres no integrity left in the world!

Mongers must unite to stop this from happening! I need to rest and have a cup of tea having heard this shocking news. ! .[/QUOTE]

Hello my fellow SH mongers,

Long time lurker. Coming to SH in a few days. Anywhere I can find some Russian friends?

Anyone want anything from the US?

I can't believe what you guys write-I broke Cathy into this business back in August. As a frequent guest to Shanghai for the past 12 years, I have to say she is the best I have found-If you haven't tried her, then don't write about her. Just got back last night and saw this post. I have to support Cathy, she has become a good friend and I hope she stays that way. Gregory and I have helped her get the website up and posting on the main webpages-she will do just fine without the "naysayers" here. Keep up the good work Cathy!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1506112]Your very first post on ISG! Welcome to the board.

If nothing else, you are an excellent writer; I can't recall ever reading language such as "The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible" on ISG in the past. However, you forgot to include some key info, such as how much you paid her, did you give her a tip, did she come to your hotel or did you visit her at her incall spot, etc.

You also forgot to mention that Cathy's web site says that she will only see "White Western Males", which eliminates a significant percentage of ISG's readers and members.

Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10% 25% 50% or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Peter Christo; 1506054]Cathy. Shanghai.

One truly incredible lady.

I was lucky enough to enjoy her company thru dinner and breakfast on the weekend with a full night of sex, that rates as just one of the best I have had anywhere in the world.

She is classy and sexy with a good sense of humour.

And she loves her sex every way possible.

Her skills include:

The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible.

A real deep throat specialist who likes to feel your cock in her throat.

A luscious clit and pussy and the most sensitive tits.

You will need to get your tongue ready for she loves DATY and her DFK showed skills of a true artist.

Cathy's prowess with sex toys was only matched by my own 20 years experience.

Making her come on numerous occasions was just so memorable.

So treat her with respect and you will get the best escort that Shanghai can offer.[/QUOTE]Fine but she charges RMB 1500 for 2 hours. In Suzhou, despite the current LE clampdown, a mere Laowai can get an overnight stay with a stunningly sexy girl for RMB 800. Suzhou is only 30 minutes by train from Shanghai so I don't understand why you are willing to pay crazy money for something that is available nearby for much less. PM me if you want details.

Further information-check out "The erotic Review"-9 positive reviews since August-not bad for newbie in the business!

[QUOTE=Marty47;1506332]I can't believe what you guys write-I broke Cathy into this business back in August. As a frequent guest to Shanghai for the past 12 years, I have to say she is the best I have found-If you haven't tried her, then don't write about her. Just got back last night and saw this post. I have to support Cathy, she has become a good friend and I hope she stays that way. Gregory and I have helped her get the website up and posting on the main webpages-she will do just fine without the "naysayers" here. Keep up the good work Cathy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Peter Christo; 1506144]Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.[/QUOTE]Needing some English lessons despite being a real Aussie guy.

Sorry guys but some of my words got deleted by ISG, so it became Chinglish in some cases.

Good on you Marty on helping Cathy.

Am planning my next meeting with Cathy very soon.

[QUOTE=PorscheDriver; 1505654]Hi guys,

Hope that someone can comment on the Paramount hotel next to Jing An temple; is it girl friendly or do I need to be cautious? Am new to Shanghai, used to play a little in the Guangdong province.

My company made arrangements in this hotel and I've been reading the forum yet couldn't find anything. Appreciate if someone may have info.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I was there 2 weeks ago, and have stayed there a few times in the past couple years. Definitely a girl friendly hotel since the registration is on 12th floor, and you can go straight to your floor from ground without stopping on 12th. The night security guy at the entrance always felt asleep and barely opens his eyes when you pass by with your honey. A bit over priced now ($150 incl. Fee and tax). It was a good deal when they charged less than $100 2 years ago. But so is everything else in Shanghai. Rooms are generally clean, but some are a bit worn. Breakfast is great, and very close to Manhattan if that is your playground. It is a good 4 star hotel with limited amenity, but not 5 as most reservation website puts it.

[QUOTE=Peter Christo; 1506144]Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.

I have been mongering in China longer than you've had pubes or an erection.

I might be new to be a member but I have been watching ISG for a long time.

Cathy is genuine and am pleased to give her the highest accolades.

If you don't want to share my real experience with her. Fine.

Then us who do, will experience her, will have the best.

You can have seconds or thirds.

If you want send me a private message and I will advise my China cell and you can speak to me direct.[/QUOTE]Cute answer!

- I never insulted you, I praised your writing skills!

- I've never dissed Cathy, nor has anyone else on this board; my post related to your connection with her.

- I doubt if you've been mongering in China as long as you wrote, since that would mean that you were mongering since the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.

- if you've been mongering and reading ISG for so long, why haven't you posted anything before now? I've been posting here for over 16 years, going back to when this site was known as worldexguide. Org and run by Atta (who ran the board before Jackson took over) , yet I for one would love to read and learn from your experiences.

- let's face it, a monger whose first post reads like yours is bound to arouse suspicion.

I'm willing to take you at your word that you're legit and that you are not Cathy's pimp. Now, start posting some useful reviews!

[QUOTE=Wabbittt;1506335]Fine but she charges RMB 1500 for 2 hours. In Suzhou, despite the current LE clampdown, a mere Laowai can get an overnight stay with a stunningly sexy girl for RMB 800. Suzhou is only 30 minutes by train from Shanghai so I don't understand why you are willing to pay crazy money for something that is available nearby for much less. PM me if you want details.[/QUOTE]If you live in Shanghai or are on an extended trip and have no reason to go to Suzhou, it sounds like a hassle and a waste of time to go there just for P4P. Cathy speaks English well, offers anal happily and is a nice looking woman. English speaking working girl is harder to find outside Shanghai plus most Chinese girls don't do anal. Add the cost of the train and a decent hotel and your cost is over the 1500 that Cathy charges.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1504588]Truth be told, Formerlybnc was the gracious host to whom I referred in my post. We have been mongering together for over a decade. He took me to the original BJ factory in Shanghai and we roamed "The Village" BBS area together in days gone by.

This is not the first time a place or area has been raided while I was present. Knock on wood, I have been lucky and never been arrested or taken in for questioning. I remember talking extensively about this subject with one LE in Shenzhen, Sha Tsui. He told me that arresting laowai in China is very complicated, like triple the paperwork and so much hassle that most LE don't want to mess with it. This is why they just give you a warning and let you go. He advised me that it is best to just come into an area, get a pop and split, rather than hang around, roam the streets and hunt too long. It makes sense because we stick out like a sore thumb and it is obvious to the locals why we are there.

Just my POV.

OAH.

P. S. Don't worry Formerlybnc, I will not return the favor![/QUOTE]But roaming around is half the fun.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1506112]Your very first post on ISG! Welcome to the board.

If nothing else, you are an excellent writer; I can't recall ever reading language such as "The greatest, most penetrating and pounding anal sex possible" on ISG in the past. However, you forgot to include some key info, such as how much you paid her, did you give her a tip, did she come to your hotel or did you visit her at her incall spot, etc.

You also forgot to mention that Cathy's web site says that she will only see "White Western Males", which eliminates a significant percentage of ISG's readers and members.

Just curious, are you Cathy's agent / pimp? What percentage is your cut? 10% 25% 50% or more?

Or are you in fact Cathy herself, planting fake positive reviews under the names of fake members?[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Nailed it

Hello guys,

I visited Shanghai Hotel, It seems that It is clean and nice place. Only problem that there was not enought light in rooms. It gives cheap brothel affect. For my visit; they took me lockers, you put everthing to there. Then they take you shower and to room that you choose your girl. Then girl takes you the private room. Total damage is 700RMB + 40 RMB tip. In my case I was looking for erotic massage but they do only intercourse so do not go there If you look for massage, But If you are looking for sex It is correct place.

Ok, so the GF (Chinese) wants to do a 'couples massage' after dinner. I'm game, but expecting a fairly uneventful experience. We get to the place (corner of Yunshan Road and Zhangyang Road, Metro 6 Exit 3 Yunshan station) and check in. Special rate for first time, RMB68 for 70mins (each). Up to the room, two tables and a well functioning room heater. We strip down, the GF actually puts on the blue shorts (I don't). Two young female masseuse enter and get to work. Normal oil massage, my masseuse really liked my ass and actually called over the other girl to see and touch (made the GF a little jealous). Otherwise, absolutely no incidental sexual contact to me, but, later my GF told me her masseuse touched her (shaved) pussy several times!

Received a discount card on check out (free) , good for 30% off. Not sure if I should go there again, but maybe my GF should, ha ha!

[QUOTE=Mike921;1506776]Not sure if I should go there again, but maybe my GF should, ha ha![/QUOTE]Bring her there again and book 90' for her. Once she is in, you take a 60' course so you enter after she starts and exit before she finishes. And good luck!

Maybe in a solo room your massesue will show you more appreciation for your body

[QUOTE=Viajando Musico;1506518]I was there 2 weeks ago, and have stayed there a few times in the past couple years. Definitely a girl friendly hotel since the registration is on 12th floor, and you can go straight to your floor from ground without stopping on 12th. The night security guy at the entrance always felt asleep and barely opens his eyes when you pass by with your honey. A bit over priced now ($150 incl. Fee and tax). It was a good deal when they charged less than $100 2 years ago. But so is everything else in Shanghai. Rooms are generally clean, but some are a bit worn. Breakfast is great, and very close to Manhattan if that is your playground. It is a good 4 star hotel with limited amenity, but not 5 as most reservation website puts it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info, V. Musico; yes, I plan on visiting Manhattan and Judy's looked it up on the map and also read the forum. Appreciate all the good info posted here and plan on reporting back; will be in Shanghai next week.

[QUOTE=Peter Christo; 1506144]Firstly I am insulted as a real Aussie guy. So don't insult me you.

I was born in Sydney and live in Melbourne.

I have been mongering in China longer than you've had pubes or an erection.

I might be new to be a member but I have been watching ISG for a long time.

Cathy is genuine and am pleased to give her the highest accolades.

If you don't want to share my real experience with her. Fine.

Then us who do, will experience her, will have the best.

You can have seconds or thirds.

If you want send me a private message and I will advise my China cell and you can speak to me direct.[/QUOTE]Being an Australian who can or can't spell or use correct grammar has what to do with what?

A dedicated monger with 4 posts who out of the blue, offers superlative endorsements, create suspicion.

Yeah yeah yeah weve all mongered a long time. In my case since before your granfather even thought of having a date with your grandma. Top that one sir. LOL.

I've been here 10 or 12 or 14 years. I'm on my third handle now.

And yeah I used to go to the old tea house in Hongquio, used to go to all the old bbs in the very old Gubei before developed with my trusteed yellow bike, can remember when Malones first opened etcetc. And also was here when this site was under its old name. So some of us here are vets.

As MS says (another verified vet) , post some reports, have some fun and enjoy. You sound sooo serious.

I've no need to talk to you. What for. So we can each marvel at how deep and gravelly and wonderfully aged our well mongered voices are? .

If Cathy is a great provider she needs no endorsements. This forum is about sharing, not a pissing contest. All countries are welcome. Good grammar is a plus.

BJ,

Sometimes in Suzhou and Shanghai.

Being an Australian who can or can't spell or use correct grammar has what to do with what?

A dedicated monger with 4 posts who out of the blue, offers superlative endorsements, create suspicion.

Yeah yeah yeah weve all mongered a long time. In my case since before your granfather even thought of having a date with your grandma. Top that one sir. LOL.

I've been here 10 or 12 or 14 years. I'm on my third handle now.

And yeah I used to go to the old tea house in Hongquio, used to go to all the old bbs in the very old Gubei before developed with my trusteed yellow bike, can remember when Malones first opened etcetc. And also was here when this site was under its old name. So some of us here are vets.

As MS says (another verified vet) , post some reports, have some fun and enjoy. You sound sooo serious.

I've no need to talk to you. What for. So we can each marvel at how deep and gravelly and wonderfully aged our well mongered voices are? .[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone,

I'm a long-time lurker and I'm finally in China! I'm so excited. I can speak a little bit of Chinese and am looking forward to submitting reports and helping out my fellow mongers!

I'm currently staying at the Shanghai Hotel and looking for some Nuru massage (I've never tried it!)

I found this place, but there's no address and I can't pay for the membership as I only have cash and RMB.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/royal-spring-hall-sauna/[/url]

I'm also in my 20s so I'd prefer to find some providers 18-20 near me.

Where are the best clubs? Anyone want a wingman?

Gentlemen,

Can I have a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]? I have also been mongering in Asia since before many of you were born. Going on 20 years living in China.

I would love to try Cathy but at 1, 500 for 2 hours she is out of my budget and based on the pics on her site, if in fact, that is her site, she is not a stunner. I believe that anal is her strongest selling point since it is not so easy to find in China. I am also somewhat suspicious about Mr. Christo but you never know.

Just my POV.

OAH.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1506974]If Cathy is a great provider she needs no endorsements. This forum is about sharing, not a pissing contest. All countries are welcome. Good grammar is a plus.

BJ,

Sometimes in Suzhou and Shanghai.

Being an Australian who can or can't spell or use correct grammar has what to do with what?

A dedicated monger with 4 posts who out of the blue, offers superlative endorsements, create suspicion.

Yeah yeah yeah weve all mongered a long time. In my case since before your granfather even thought of having a date with your grandma. Top that one sir. LOL.

I've been here 10 or 12 or 14 years. I'm on my third handle now.

And yeah I used to go to the old tea house in Hongquio, used to go to all the old bbs in the very old Gubei before developed with my trusteed yellow bike, can remember when Malones first opened etcetc. And also was here when this site was under its old name. So some of us here are vets.

As MS says (another verified vet) , post some reports, have some fun and enjoy. You sound sooo serious.

I've no need to talk to you. What for. So we can each marvel at how deep and gravelly and wonderfully aged our well mongered voices are? .[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChineseAmerican; 1507375]Hi everyone,

I'm a long-time lurker and I'm finally in China! I'm so excited. I can speak a little bit of Chinese and am looking forward to submitting reports and helping out my fellow mongers!

I'm currently staying at the Shanghai Hotel and looking for some Nuru massage (I've never tried it!)

I found this place, but there's no address and I can't pay for the membership as I only have cash and RMB.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/royal-spring-hall-sauna/[/url]

I'm also in my 20s so I'd prefer to find some providers 18-20 near me.

Where are the best clubs? Anyone want a wingman?[/QUOTE]Hi,

I think at the moment the best place to have a Nuru Massage should be the Jun Hao Sauna.

I attached a location card and a Location Instruction card here for you.

Should be not more than 30 RMB for taxi to go there, and worth the spending.

The Girls in a Sauna could be your range, also Manhattan has girls, from Vietnam.

Also some KTVs provide sexy young girls, but more expensive and you need some guys to join you.

Enjoy Shanghai,

Steven.

Don`t forget to leave a review of your session!

Anyone know a good source for Russian girls? Seems to be a few on websites but probably all fake. Prefer a Russian girl who can speak some English than Chinese girls.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1506545]Cute answer!

- I never insulted you, I praised your writing skills!

- I've never dissed Cathy, nor has anyone else on this board; my post related to your connection with her.

- I doubt if you've been mongering in China as long as you wrote, since that would mean that you were mongering since the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.

- if you've been mongering and reading ISG for so long, why haven't you posted anything before now? I've been posting here for over 16 years, going back to when this site was known as worldexguide. Org and run by Atta (who ran the board before Jackson took over) , yet I for one would love to read and learn from your experiences.

- let's face it, a monger whose first post reads like yours is bound to arouse suspicion.

I'm willing to take you at your word that you're legit and that you are not Cathy's pimp. Now, start posting some useful reviews![/QUOTE]Thanks Mighty Spearsman.

I agree with your comments re my original post. And my Chinglish due in part deletions and changes by ISG, doesn't help.

After reading and learning from all contributors over all these years, I decided to start posting and Cathy happened to be my first post.

It could have been my fantastic lady in Guangzhou from the previous week but I am keeping her my secret.

Cathy's service over a 17 hour period with me with just meals and a 2 hour nap. Will be hard to match anywhere.

She loves her sex. Just bring a lot of condoms with you.

17 was our final tally.

Sure she loves her anal, but her deep throat skills were incredible and regular sex was great (she has a tight pussy).

She loves her sex toys and even names them.

Her attention to detail in achieving the best experince for you is something lacking by many escorts.

She uses mirrors and will have sex everywhere in the hotel room.

Cathy's friends such as Marty have mentored and helped her enormously.

To them I say thank you for introducing Cathy to me via ISG.

I am posting going to post soon of my experiences in other cities eg Wenzhou, Jinjiang.

Eg.

I had a gorgeous looking at the Powerlong Hotel Sauna in Jinjiang (Fujian Province) 2 days ago.

Normally the service is fantastic and they will do just about anything for you in the 90 minutes.

Not this girl. Beautiful girls doesn't equal good sex.

I still came a couple of times but felt short changed.

Some cities are difficult to mongerin, so am looking for help!

[QUOTE=Mottage;1507634]Anyone know a good source for Russian girls? Seems to be a few on websites but probably all fake. Prefer a Russian girl who can speak some English than Chinese girls.[/QUOTE]What about Moscow? EE girls out of their country, apart UAE, are often bad providers.

Without giving away too much on my age or dates. Because no one can pick it from the way I look and act (still have a strong sex drive). My first trip to China was during the time that Russia shot down the Korean Airlines passenger plane. I was in Shanghai at the time, and it was scary.

Yes everyone wore green or blue uniforms and there were no cars on the roads just a lot of bicycles.

My hotel was the old Peace Hotel with no running water, no flush toilet and it cost $20US a night.

I had to be chaperoned by 2 people everywhere I went.

The only form of entertainment was the American Club.

Mmm how times have changed.

I have just now posted a review or should I say request for help on Nanjing.

Its a city I have not notched yet.

[QUOTE=ChineseAmerican; 1507375]Hi everyone,

I'm a long-time lurker and I'm finally in China! I'm so excited. I can speak a little bit of Chinese and am looking forward to submitting reports and helping out my fellow mongers!

I'm currently staying at the Shanghai Hotel and looking for some Nuru massage (I've never tried it!)

I found this place, but there's no address and I can't pay for the membership as I only have cash and RMB.

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/royal-spring-hall-sauna/[/url]

I'm also in my 20s so I'd prefer to find some providers 18-20 near me.

Where are the best clubs? Anyone want a wingman?[/QUOTE]If you live in Shanghai hotel, why not just try the sauna there? Think it is on the 3rd floor. Dry and soapie, try to get there early, say early afternoon, when the girls are still fresh. I believe you can even bring one of the girls back to your room if you desire. Damage is around 880 RMB

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1507710]What about Moscow? EE girls out of their country, apart UAE, are often bad providers.[/QUOTE]IMHO, all girls out of their country tend to be bad providers. A good example is in Hong Kong where many countries are available. They all seem to be in a hurry since they believe time is running out on their visas.

Just my POV.

OAH

Greetings all,

I have been a regular reader of this site (and its predecessor) for well over a decade, and finally thought it about time to "give back" and make my first post!

Was in Shanghai last week and went to Buddha massage. It's very easy to find if you follow the instructions given elsewhere. Look for "massage" and a buddha.

Went in with my colleague and translator (born in China bit lived in NZ since childhood). Shown to a room and initially 2 girls were offered. Didn't like either. So asked to see some more.

A further two were brought in and one was ok. 6.5 body. 6.5 face, looked about 25 (I can never tell the ages of Chinese girls!). So I chose her. Was explained that the deal is CNY 288 for HJ or 328 for BBBJ. My colleague was sceptical that anything more was on offer, but I assured him that it would be (recall: he is the Chinese one!).

She showed me to the shower then disappeared. I got washed then she came back and followed suit. NB no money had changed hands at this point.

When she took her clothes off I saw a caesarian scar (it is just me or is this a common feature of Chinese (W) Gs?). She proceeded to give a massage. I indicated with my hands that I wanted more than the "standard" service, and after a few minutes the upsell began. Her first quote was CNY 1,000; I countered with CNY 1! To make things clear, she explained that I would pay the house 338 and her x; and the next quote for x was 600. I countered by suggesting she pay me 2,000. She was quite playful and giggled at most of my absurdity.

Finally I agreed to pay her 300 (so total 638) for about an hour of BBBJ and FS. Sex was good, plenty of positions, she clearly was into it although didn't let go enough for kissing. All in all, a reasonable punt I may repeat.

She did tell me her name at the start but I can't remember! I got her mobile number and QQ address at the end, and she also wrote her name (in Chinese) but I haven't got my colleague to transliterate it for me so I'm afraid I still can't tell the forum who she is!

More posts to come. Thanks to previous posters for info which helped find this place.

AX

A CHINESE man was detained after he stabbed a foreigner to death in a hotpot restaurant in the Pudong New Area last night.

The incident happened about 8:30pm at an outlet of the popular Haidilao hotpot restaurant on Zhangyang Road.

The alleged killer, surnamed Wu, hails from east China's Shandong Province. Waiving a knife, he entered the restaurant and rushed toward the table which was occupied by the foreigner and a woman, witnesses said.

The foreigner was then seen lying on the floor in a pool of blood.

Following preliminary investigation, police said Wu suspected the foreigner of having an affair with his wife. No other details were available. The case is still under investigation.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;1508068]IMHO, all girls out of their country tend to be bad providers.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Posting drunk again my friend?

I seem to remember a certain 23yo Kenyan girl whom you [B][I]played rolly polly in the hay[/I][/B] With some time ago. Bad performer?

Personally I do not think you can cover this subject with broad brushed statements. I have had fabulous experiences with Ruskies, Uzbeks, Ukrainian girls in China. But I have had my share of duds also. Had a spectacular Spanish lady out of Manhattan in April this year. Had a sensational Sth African princess out of Brown Sugar in Xin Tian Di (is it still closed does anybody know). Had brain numbing Venezuelan out of Zapatas last year. But I have had my duds too.

BUT.

When it comes to the freelancers in Bars. IMHO the foreigners leave the [B]whingeing moaning complaining under performing Chinese [/B]for dead.

[QUOTE=Mottage;1507634]Anyone know a good source for Russian girls? Seems to be a few on websites but probably all fake. Prefer a Russian girl who can speak some English than Chinese girls.[/QUOTE]Mottage you can try Bar Rouge as usually some working there. Occasionally you can find them in Zapatas or that newish brewery bar opposite Zapatas. Seldom find them in Manhattan now. Occasionally in Luna at Xin Tian Di. Good luck. Feel free to report back.

New MP behind Starbucks on Jinxiang Road. In Jinqiao (replaced another which closed a few months back). Seems to be just a HJ joint, despite the most expensive menu item (RMB368, 80 mins) is 'SPA' (turned out to be assisted bath and HJ). Girl (early 20s, Hunan) was nice, but wouldn't even consider negotiating for FS. Saw another girl on my way out that looked like she would be more amenable, but I won't return to find out.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy; 1508354]Hmmm. Posting drunk again my friend?

I seem to remember a certain 23yo Kenyan girl whom you [B][I]played rolly polly in the hay[/I][/B] With some time ago. Bad performer?

Personally I do not think you can cover this subject with broad brushed statements. I have had fabulous experiences with Ruskies, Uzbeks, Ukrainian girls in China. But I have had my share of duds also. Had a spectacular Spanish lady out of Manhattan in April this year. Had a sensational Sth African princess out of Brown Sugar in Xin Tian Di (is it still closed does anybody know). Had brain numbing Venezuelan out of Zapatas last year. But I have had my duds too.

BUT.

When it comes to the freelancers in Bars. IMHO the foreigners leave the [B]whingeing moaning complaining under performing Chinese [/B]for dead.[/QUOTE]BBB,

I guess you are talking about Moureen. Can I mention names on here? I suppose first names are ok.

I will not go into the long story about how you fell madly in love with her, asked me to pay for her ticket to Singapore and when she did not show up, she called me in Guangzhou worried you would kill her for it. Leave that for another day. The most unreliable hoare I ever met but performance in top 10 of all the girls I have ever had! Unfortunately, that one has gone on to parts Scandanavian never to be done by us again. That said, she carried an Uganda passport.

Just my POV.

OAH

Hello all my fellow mongers! Here's my first report. Second to come soon.

Last night it was really rainy and I felt like checking out some of the bars I keep hearing about on here. I'm sure the rain affected my experience. I took pictures of the address on my phone and got a cabbie. I told the cabbie I was looking for a friend and wanted to go to a few places. I started out by going to Manhattan. The bar was packed. At least a 3 to 1 girl to guy ratio. Most of the women were Vietnamese and standing around near the walls. There was a scantily woman standing on the bar dancing. Most of the guys each had 1 girl they were talking to. The conversations seemed really intimate, if you get my drift. I walked around the entire place, saw a few cuties and then went back to my cab. We then went to check out Judy's. 2 blocks away from Manhattan, and it seemed like slim pickings. All of the women were older by about 5-10 years. I did see a few women who were probably 3-legged. I wouldn't mind trying out a 3-legged woman, but I want them to look like feminine sexy women. I saw some Africans too. From there, I went to Zapatas and the bar in front of it. The pickings here were dead. Mostly caucasian guys drinking. There were 4 Russian women in the back smoking. I approached them and said something and was soundly ignored. All of the women were chubby. Maybe they read the sign "no prostitutes allowed" that Zapatas has posted. Odd since the sign was only in Chinese and English. I had thought Zapatas would be great so I had let my cab go. It was okay, because there was a line of 6-7 cabs right outside. I hailed one and we went back to Manhattan.

One back at the Manhattan I walked around again, but slower. I wanted to get a good look at every girl in there. As I was walking, one woman grabbed my arm and said that she was the one. in there and she said . She didn't look it so I told her someone was going to pick her and walked away. As I walked past 3 women, one grabbed my hand and rubbed it on her friend's breast. We all had a hearty laugh! I found the girl who I thought was the cutest, made eye contact, and waved to her as I walked past. I then went to an empty bar stool and made eye contact with her again and smiled at her. She smiled back and walked over to me. She immediately placed herself between my legs and I put my arms around her soft waist. We started talking for a bit and then started to get down to business. I wanted someone for all night. She started out at 3,000 RMB and said "too much" with a large smile on my face. I mentioned how it was raining and that I had a nice hotel and we could grab a cab immediately. I asked her what her lowest was. She wanted me to say a number and told me that she would make me feel good, all night long. I told her 1,000 and she came back at 1,500. She asked me if I had protection with me and I told her I did. We settled on 1,200 because "I'm handsome" and she grabbed her coat, waived to a friend, and we got into a cab. We chatted briefly in the car and she told me she had recently come from Vietnam with a few friends. When we got to the hotel, we played it cool as we walked through the lobby and into the elevator with two other Caucasians.

Once we got into the room, I said "hooray!" and gave her a big hug. She started to try to kiss me, but I only let her kiss me on the cheeks. She started to take off my clothes and then hers. I told her I wanted to shower first and she said okay. As soon as she lowered her dress, I saw that she had breasts the size of firm cantaloupes. A delightful surprise as her dress had hidden how large she was up top. I'm quite the boobie lover! We went into the shower and she began to soap and wash me, paying lots of attention to playing with my little soldier. She then washed herself. She seemed very shy and would cover her chest whenever she had the opportunity, whether it was with the shower curtain or the bed sheets. After we showered, she dried me off and we went into the bedroom. She had me lay down and started to softly kiss and suck my nipples. Then she kissed her way down towards my groin. I asked her if she could use a cover and she said we didn't need one. I objected, but she smiled at me and started to gently lick my shaft. She kissed and made her way to the top. Her lips were soft on my head. Then she started to deepthroat me. I'm around 4-5 inches so it did hurt a little as it pressed against the back of her throat. I told her I was ready to "make love" and she covered me up. Then she hopped on top and rode me like she was trying to break a wild stallion. The whole time I was squeezing and playing with her nipples. I wanted to taste them so I put my arm around her back, brought her heavenly globes into my mouth and took over. She shuddered and told me she had come. Of course I have no way to know if she did. She pulled my breast from her mouth and signaled a position change. She got on all fours and I couldn't do much to say no. I position myself behind her, positioned myself inside her, grabbed her hips, and went to work. She did moan quite a bit and I was worried about my neighbors, but I soon forgot about them as I moved my hand to grobe her breast while pounding her from behind. I was about to come so I pulled out and told her to lie on her back. Alas, those few minutes were not enough as I soon climaxed inside her. The whole time she was licking my ear and neck. She took my hand and led me into the bathroom where she took off the spent, and filled, condom and wiped me off. Then we showered again. We got into bed and went to sleep. She really liked to lean her head on my arm and wrapped one leg around my torso.

In the middle of the night, I woke up and noticed I had a hardon. Apparently she noticed too because she started to squeeze and caress it. I had told her I wanted to go again in the morning, but this was extremely unexpected. I started to rub her clit and she became wet. Then I told her to wrap me up and she rode me again. We switched to doggy and finally I put some pillows under her hips to a modified doggy. To tell the truth, I did this so I could have full access to both of her tits while still being able to pound her snatch with my body weight. I came again. She cleaned me again. We slept.

She had said she'd grab breakfast with me, but when the morning came she said she was going back to her hotel. We embraced again. She kissed me on both cheeks and left.

Her gentle, sweet scent is still in my hotel room.

[QUOTE=ChineseAmerican; 1508864]Hello all my fellow mongers! Here's my first report. Second to come soon.

Hen she started to deepthroat me. I'm around 4-5 inches so it did hurt a little as it pressed against the back of her throat.[/QUOTE]
Great report! However, are you sure you want us to know that?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1509302]Great report! However, are you sure you want us to know that?[/QUOTE]Haven't we crossed the age of looking and comparing in shower / locker room? But, I do agree with you. We need not know the member's details. *laughing*

Before travelling Shanghai, I've read reports as far back as 2009; lot's of good information and many thanks to all contributors.

One report caught my eyes and I thought I would check into it; I'm running low on V and was looking where I could buy the real stuff. What I'm about to write has been already said by another member some time back, I don't claim ownership.

Thought it would be good to tell others of this place again. On west Nanjing road, about 250 m east of jingan temple metro station is the Portman Ritz Carlton hotel; it is sitting back from the road a little and has many businesses alongside it's entrance. One a Starbucks.

Walking toward the hotel on the western side, just past the entrance to the underground garage, is a staircase leading to the upper part. Go up and you're faces by a dental center and a medical place; on the left of these, right at the corner, you see a green cross, the sign for a pharmacy.

It is just a small place and a young woman greeted me from behind her desk, asking what she could help me with; her english was pretty good. L had written the words 'Viagara' and 'Phizer' on my phone, which I showed to her. She asked how many and went to a cabinet to come back with a package of 10; cost was 965 RMB's.

These are the 100 mg, individually packaged pills; no questions about a prescription, I was out within 3 minutes. Hope I was clear enough in describing this place.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1509302]Great report! However, are you sure you want us to know that?[/QUOTE]Large endowment in the USA is an asset. Girls never complain "you too big". In China it seems to be the opposite. At least with working girls.

[QUOTE=ChineseAmerican;1508864]I'm around 4-5 inches[/QUOTE][B]WOW [/B]- you're a [B][I]GIANT[/I][/B] Compared to OAH!

[quote=bad boy billy;1509752][b]wow [/b]- you're a [b][i]giant[/i][/b] compared to oah![/quote]peeking again billy? or jealous? lol

This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls). Now, if you like the small spinner type (I actually don't, as I like them taller; she is an exception for me though!) you can't really go wrong here, just drop by and see if you like her. And don't let her small frame and cuddly demeanor deceive you, this woman can go on for hours on end.

And don't be scared of her retriever, he is tame. In case someone thinks that is posting is more of an advertisement than anything else, feel free to move it.

Sounds great-but how do we contact her? You don't have an inbox.

[QUOTE=ScaPom; 1510475]This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls). Now, if you like the small spinner type (I actually don't, as I like them taller; she is an exception for me though!) you can't really go wrong here, just drop by and see if you like her. And don't let her small frame and cuddly demeanor deceive you, this woman can go on for hours on end.

And don't be scared of her retriever, he is tame. In case someone thinks that is posting is more of an advertisement than anything else, feel free to move it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sarawak50;1486233]Coming from Loushanguan road metro station and walking in direction Changning road you find the massage shops shortly before the intersection on the right side. At least 3 shops are in this area.[/QUOTE]Finally tracked down Sarawak 50's shop. It is one of three just passed Yunwunshan Road on Loushanguan Road. It advertises a Romantic Bath Massage 90 min for RMB298.

Found it at about 11.30pm and the area was pretty quiet but still had to wait 10 minutes on arrival. 2 degrees outside. Must have been 30 inside! Much as Sarawak described. I was assigned No 8. Probably in her 30's but shapely. Don't know whether it was because I was an older foreigner with only limited Mandarin, but she was a little shy, almost embarrassed when I turned around as she undressed for the b2b. Strangely she kept panties on, but free access was granted to all areas (laundry must be an issue with that oil) by the end of the b2b she had definitely warmed up and the panties were gone. Big surprise was no see section scar. Although it was late (perhaps because I was her last customer for the night she was very keen for more. Warning BYO tata) A good time was had by all but it was apparent that we had to keep the noise down. Tipped 1 red Mao. Probably should have been more but was all the cash I had on me and didn't want to spoil it for any who follow. Total damage RMB400 for bath massage fun and 90 minutes of overheating. As I am close to 50 age of the service provider was no issue and her attitude makes a return visit likely.

PlaceKicker.

I know one provider who gives an awesome massage and handjob. The boss keeps all of the door fee if 168, so some may be motivated to do BJ. I was offered BJ there once a two years ago. #9 will make you feel great. #98 RongHua Road. Lots of nice racks there. They will demand 200 tip for hand job.

Anyone know of any good Mp in Gubei area, especially one that might specialize in BJ? I try following up on rumor from diff source but pretty much hit dead ends. Still willing to chase down more if I can even get a few leads, but so far haven't found anything to write about. Too much density with jingan and not enough written in Changning.[/QUOTE]

Where are those smaller places that just offer a quick BBBJCIM for 150rmb or so?

I've been to one 10 years ago and it was great. No questions or talking involved. It was near the Hong kong plaza.

Are there more of them? Are they recognizable from the street? I have read lots of research about saunas, BBS, clubs, etc. But not these places.

I'm staying near Nanjing Lu. I am also curious for a nearby sauna recommendation to add to my research.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=T1234; 1511198]Where are those smaller places that just offer a quick BBBJCIM for 150rmb or so?

I've been to one 10 years ago and it was great. No questions or talking involved. It was near the Hong kong plaza.

Are there more of them? Are they recognizable from the street? I have read lots of research about saunas, BBS, clubs, etc. But not these places.

I'm staying near Nanjing Lu. I am also curious for a nearby sauna recommendation to add to my research.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]To T1234.

Keep Dreaming newbie that is 10 yr ago China change alot this days everything gone up in price now days, if you want to get a BBBJCIM for 25 USD go to a 3rd world country and find yourself a old lady.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1511528]. If you want to get a BBBJCIM for 25 USD go to a 3rd world country and find yourself a old lady.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Sounds about right, $25 equals about 800Bhat and that's pretty much what you'the get on Beach Road, Pattaya. A lady well past her use by date.

BTW, isn't China 3rd world?

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1511528]To T1234.

Keep Dreaming newbie that is 10 yr ago China change alot this days everything gone up in price now days, if you want to get a BBBJCIM for 25 USD go to a 3rd world country and find yourself a old lady.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]FE48,

I was just in a place last month (see my post) where I got a BBBJCIM for 120RMB. OK, the girls were not young or stunners but they were not old ladies either. I don't know the name or address of the place since I was taken there by a veteran monger but it illustrates that this service is still available in SH at reasonable prices.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1511593]FE48,

I was just in a place last month (see my post) where I got a BBBJCIM for 120RMB. I don't know the name or address of the place since I was taken there by a veteran monger.

OAH[/QUOTE]Did he blindfold you?

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1511714]Did he blindfold you?[/QUOTE]Rjsss212,

No, but I am not so familiar with the outskirts of SH. We took a taxi and I did not pay much attention to the roads. I will ask the veteran monger to post the location.

OAH

So I recall last year all the expats went home for the Christmas holidays and Manhattans was dead. The pinay and viet girls were caught flat footed (as they did not know this happens at Chrstmas) and discounted heavy as the laws of supply and demand were in effect.

Did they learn their lesson this year or was this another holiday for monger history? Unfortunately I will not be there to partake if so.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1511536]BTW, isn't China 3rd world?[/QUOTE]Most parts of China can be called 3rd world, but Shanghai unfortunally not even similar to a 3rd world area.

Prices here are much higher. 120 RMB for a BBBJCIM in Shanghai too less, but a pretty good price for other areas in China.

OAH, since most people don't stay in the outskirts wouldn't the round trip taxi fare eat into any potential savings bringing the total cost back up to city prices while adding unnecessary time and potential complications?

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1511872]Rjsss212,

No, but I am not so familiar with the outskirts of SH. We took a taxi and I did not pay much attention to the roads. I will ask the veteran monger to post the location.

OAH[/QUOTE]SG, I am very familiar with Shanghai and though I was being playfully sardonic, your description applies to almost any major city in most 3rd world countries I. E Bangkok, et. Al.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1512123]Most parts of China can be called 3rd world, but Shanghai unfortunally not even similar to a 3rd world area.

Prices here are much higher. 120 RMB for a BBBJCIM in Shanghai too less, but a pretty good price for other areas in China.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ScaPom; 1510475]This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls). Now, if you like the small spinner type (I actually don't, as I like them taller; she is an exception for me though!) you can't really go wrong here, just drop by and see if you like her. And don't let her small frame and cuddly demeanor deceive you, this woman can go on for hours on end.

And don't be scared of her retriever, he is tame. In case someone thinks that is posting is more of an advertisement than anything else, feel free to move it.[/QUOTE]Hi ScaPom,

Care to share contact info? I am planning to be in Shanghai early next year.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1512169]OAH, since most people don't stay in the outskirts wouldn't the round trip taxi fare eat into any potential savings bringing the total cost back up to city prices while adding unnecessary time and potential complications?

SG, I am very familiar with Shanghai and though I was being playfully sardonic, your description applies to almost any major city in most 3rd world countries I. E Bangkok, et. Al.[/QUOTE]Rjsss212,

The taxi fare was only around 25RMB one way and there were three of us. It was not that far away in fact. I was after a BBBJCIM. That was the specialty of the house. We were reminiscing about the old BJ Factory from days gone by. There were also a couple of FS BBS on the same road.

I agree that if good BJ service is available closer to town, it makes more sense. Do you know any places that specialize in this?

Just my POV.

OAH

No. 431, Fuzhou Road, Huangpu District.

Stopped by this place a little after midnight. Changed clothes in the locker room and taken directly to the room.

Only 3 girls were available. Chose a petite spinner from Dongbei. Showered separately then got on the bed and started with BBBJ.

On with the cover and into missionary. Told her to turn around but she said she did not do doggie so we changed into cowgirl.

Total damage 680 rmb. Overall experience was pretty disappointing.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1510801]Sounds great-but how do we contact her? You don't have an inbox.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Aries3288; 1512241]Hi ScaPom,

Care to share contact info? I am planning to be in Shanghai early next year.[/QUOTE]Well in defense of my earlier post I have to say that I originally posted her cellphone as well as qq number, but they obviously got removed (I didn't check the forum after posting, so I just realized). Now the question is if it is allowed to post numbers in the advertisement section? If so I would post it there. If not, I'd have to think long and hard on whether or not to purchase an account. It seems like there comes a time in the life of every reasonably young guy, somewhere right in the middle of grad school, where one has to decide on whether to commit oneself to a life of mongering and other things vicious, or to stick to normal pickups and causal sex from here on out. Decisions, decisions.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1512101]So I recall last year all the expats went home for the Christmas holidays and Manhattans was dead. The pinay and viet girls were caught flat footed (as they did not know this happens at Chrstmas) and discounted heavy as the laws of supply and demand were in effect.

Did they learn their lesson this year or was this another holiday for monger history? Unfortunately I will not be there to partake if so.[/QUOTE]God forbid them from learning that lesson. Seriously though, would interest me as well. In case, I would start thinking about flying over to Shanghai next year, same time, just for that extra bit of holiday feeling.

The business model at 1808 Beijing Road has changed. They now offer Romantic Massage for 398. It is a good full service deal, priced nicely between the wham-bam BBS and the full service spas. The body-to-body massage and fire-and-ice and Cat bath compares well to the spas. No need to shower in the common area, or wait for your turn while sitting on the sofa. There is a good shower in the room, but you shower by yourself. No lineup or fishbowl, either. I'm sure if you didn't like the girl that came to the room, you could ask for someone else. #9 does a good job.

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1513535]The business model at 1808 Beijing Road has changed. They now offer Romantic Massage for 398. It is a good full service deal, priced nicely between the wham-bam BBS and the full service spas. The body-to-body massage and fire-and-ice and Cat bath compares well to the spas. No need to shower in the common area, or wait for your turn while sitting on the sofa. There is a good shower in the room, but you shower by yourself. No lineup or fishbowl, either. I'm sure if you didn't like the girl that came to the room, you could ask for someone else. #9 does a good job.[/QUOTE]Can you still just get a massage with HE?

Yuyuan Lu and Wanghandu lu (I think I spelled right) are the same owner. Have they changed as well?

Sam Can

No, not for BJ's, sorry.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1512251]Rjsss212,

The taxi fare was only around 25RMB one way and there were three of us. It was not that far away in fact. I was after a BBBJCIM. That was the specialty of the house. We were reminiscing about the old BJ Factory from days gone by. There were also a couple of FS BBS on the same road.

I agree that if good BJ service is available closer to town, it makes more sense. Do you know any places that specialize in this?

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1513535]The business model at 1808 Beijing Road has changed. They now offer Romantic Massage for 398. It is a good full service deal, priced nicely between the wham-bam BBS and the full service spas. The body-to-body massage and fire-and-ice and Cat bath compares well to the spas. No need to shower in the common area, or wait for your turn while sitting on the sofa. There is a good shower in the room, but you shower by yourself. No lineup or fishbowl, either. I'm sure if you didn't like the girl that came to the room, you could ask for someone else. #9 does a good job.[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting us know about this place! One of my complaints about Shanghai was that there didn't seem to be much of anything between the BBS places and the over-$100 US places, so this is useful information.

[QUOTE=Ungus; 1512738]No. 431, Fuzhou Road, Huangpu District.

Stopped by this place a little after midnight. Changed clothes in the locker room and taken directly to the room.

Only 3 girls were available. Chose a petite spinner from Dongbei. Showered separately then got on the bed and started with BBBJ.

On with the cover and into missionary. Told her to turn around but she said she did not do doggie so we changed into cowgirl.

Total damage 680 rmb. Overall experience was pretty disappointing.[/QUOTE]More Chinese girls have refused me doggy than any other nationality. I have been refused by street walkers and a bbs girl but never by a sauna girl, in a sauna you pay for that. If a girl pulled that on me in a sauna I'd complain to management immediately.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1513700]More Chinese girls have refused me doggy than any other nationality. I have been refused by street walkers and a bbs girl but never by a sauna girl, in a sauna you pay for that. If a girl pulled that on me in a sauna I'd complain to management immediately.[/QUOTE]Not only would I complain to management, I might even threaten to change the girl on the spot. In most saunas, the girls are under strict scrutiny to provide good service. For 680RMB, you should get what you want.

That said, I also get my fair share of doggy refusal in China. They claim it hurts them. Most of the times if I insist and agree not to pound them too hard they do it. My experience is that many WGs in China try to get away with the minimum service they can. BJ is another example that they might refuse.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1513668]Thanks for letting us know about this place! One of my complaints about Shanghai was that there didn't seem to be much of anything between the BBS places and the over-$100 US places, so this is useful information.[/QUOTE]$100 is equal to about 600 RMB and there are many saunas offering full service in Shanghai, after the discounting the rate is less than 600 RMB. As I know, there are not many massage parlors providing FS in Shanghai.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1513708]Not only would I complain to management, I might even threaten to change the girl on the spot. In most saunas, the girls are under strict scrutiny to provide good service. For 680RMB, you should get what you want.

That said, I also get my fair share of doggy refusal in China. They claim it hurts them. Most of the times if I insist and agree not to pound them too hard they do it. My experience is that many WGs in China try to get away with the minimum service they can. BJ is another example that they might refuse.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a (Shanghai) GF who'd never given a BJ, after months of persuasion, she agreed, and immediately went to work with beakers of hot and ice cold water, and of course a small bucket to spit into! True Magic!

FZ

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1513658]Can you still just get a massage with HE?

Yuyuan Lu and Wanghandu lu (I think I spelled right) are the same owner. Have they changed as well?

Sam Can[/QUOTE]Sam, at Beijing Lu they had a card with a single menu item. That appeared to be it. The change is very recent. I cannot say about the other two places. The last time I was at Wanhangdu it was a disappointing HE, and the last time ay Yuyuan they were closed for some reason and directed me to Beijing Lu.

The alleyway MP is on Wuning Lu. The intersection of Wanhangdu Lu is nearby. Too bad the service has gone down. They started wearing those tight underpants to keep us from FIV. I walked out when I saw that. All we have is memories of #18#10 (her sister) and #8. All highly motivated performers.

BJ, longing for Shanghai MP's.

]Sam, at Beijing Lu they had a card with a single menu item. That appeared to be it. The change is very recent. I cannot say about the other two places. The last time I was at Wanhangdu it was a disappointing HE, and the last time ay Yuyuan they were closed for some reason and directed me to Beijing Lu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1513812]Reminds me of a (Shanghai) GF who'd never given a BJ, after months of persuasion, she agreed, and immediately went to work with beakers of hot and ice cold water, and of course a small bucket to spit into! True Magic!

FZ[/QUOTE]FZ,

I wonder how she knew about the "Fire & Ice" service. Seems she might have had a sauna gig in the past?

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1514030]FZ,

I wonder how she knew about the "Fire & Ice" service. Seems she might have had a sauna gig in the past?

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]Of course I said "now just hold on a minute young lady, are you sure you never did this before?"

Like hell I did, I laid back and let her get on with it!

FZ

Just thought you guys would a shot of Cathy from behind.

Here it is. Forgot to down load.

[QUOTE=Marty47;1514168]Just thought you guys would a shot of Cathy from behind.[/QUOTE]

Hey Guys,

I am a long time follower of the board and have finally found an excuse to get over to Shanghai on business (I am a semi regular poster in the Melbourne, Australia forum where I live. Although slowing down as I get older and slower!).

I have mostly mongered Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia in the past so looking forward to taking on Shanghai for the first time.

I am still working my way through the last few years of posts to gather a list of saunas and clubs to visit. I will be in Shanghai between the 4th to 18th of Jan and will post as much info on my adventures as possible.

One key question I am yet to be able to answer from the board is how girl friendly hotels are?

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.

Nowadays most better Hotels have room card controls in the elevator. If you expect a decently dressed visitor you did hand out your second room card to, they can come to your room alone.

In other cases you need to pick up a guest in the lobby and go together to your room. Most often also no problem in the afternoon or early evening.

Sometimes you may get stopped then you face that your guest have to register and shows her I'd, then go on. Its a bit embaressing and I always try to avoid.

If you don't know sit in the lobby and see with couples going to the elevator.

Sometimes "business floors" have a separate desk at the floor with someone sitting there. Same story as in the main lobby.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1514429]Hey Guys,

I am a long time follower of the board and have finally found an excuse to get over to Shanghai on business (I am a semi regular poster in the Melbourne, Australia forum where I live. Although slowing down as I get older and slower!).

I have mostly mongered Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia in the past so looking forward to taking on Shanghai for the first time.

I am still working my way through the last few years of posts to gather a list of saunas and clubs to visit. I will be in Shanghai between the 4th to 18th of Jan and will post as much info on my adventures as possible.

One key question I am yet to be able to answer from the board is how girl friendly hotels are?

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.[/QUOTE]

Never stayed at the Peninsula, but Four Points in Pudong is okay-I would stay at the Sheraton in Pudong-it is just next door 45 seconds walking. Owned by company and they interact on reservations. Much nicer rooms.

[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1514429]Hey Guys,

I am a long time follower of the board and have finally found an excuse to get over to Shanghai on business (I am a semi regular poster in the Melbourne, Australia forum where I live. Although slowing down as I get older and slower!).

I have mostly mongered Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia in the past so looking forward to taking on Shanghai for the first time.

I am still working my way through the last few years of posts to gather a list of saunas and clubs to visit. I will be in Shanghai between the 4th to 18th of Jan and will post as much info on my adventures as possible.

One key question I am yet to be able to answer from the board is how girl friendly hotels are?

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1514429]Hey Guys,

I am staying at The Peninsula for the first 4 nights and the remainder of my stay is at the Four Points Sheraton in Pudong area (I have no choice on the hotels). I have historically never had issues in bringing girls up to my room in 5 star hotels across Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam etc. Is Shanghai any different in this regard? Any feedback on these two particular hotels would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Guys.[/QUOTE]Generally there will be no problem to bring a girl to your room this days. Only while the Chinese new year end of January, some hotels will follow the rules more strictly, but now easy going in Shanghai. Could be you have to pick up her downstairs, but definitly no problem to bring her up (different to Beijing, where some hotels will not allow visitors in the room after 10 pm). You can find some basic information about "girls to hotel" here:

[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girlfriendly-hotels/[/url]

[QUOTE=GregoryB; 1514470]Nowadays most better Hotels have room card controls in the elevator. If you expect a decently dressed visitor you did hand out your second room card to, they can come to your room alone.

In other cases you need to pick up a guest in the lobby and go together to your room. Most often also no problem in the afternoon or early evening.

Sometimes you may get stopped then you face that your guest have to register and shows her I'd, then go on. Its a bit embaressing and I always try to avoid.

If you don't know sit in the lobby and see with couples going to the elevator.

Sometimes "business floors" have a separate desk at the floor with someone sitting there. Same story as in the main lobby.

Gregory.[/QUOTE]In hotels where there is a card, I ask the girl to dress nicely and goto the bar. Meet there and take her.

If its a pickup from Manhattan or Judy's, thats pretty difficult because of the odd timings.

I'm new to Shanghai and don't have a lot of experience with P4P, but I was looking around online to see what was up and decided to try it out.

I read about there being some BBS on FangCao Road in Pudong. I wanted to start with somewhere far from home so I took the subway to the FangCao Road station after lunch one day. I took a stroll down the street checking out all the shops there. It was early afternoon on a weekday, and I didn't see any customers walking into or out of any shops, but they all had at least three girls sitting motionless in them. As I walked back from where I came, I walked into a random shop and a girl asked me "qiaobei ma?" I said yes and then chose a good looking girl with a slightly darker complexion. The first sign of trouble was when this girl looked back at me surprised and asked if I wanted her. She unlocked a door to a small passageway, locked the door behind us, and unlocked a second door at the other end. She led me into a small bedroom and closed the door. She started to haggle on the price, but it was strange as she wasn't looking at me as we were speaking with each other. She kept insisting 500 and wouldn't budge. I first offered 200, then 300. After a couple more minutes of me trying to convince her of 300 (which I heard was the standard laowai price) and her not budging an ounce, I said 400. Then she moaned and groaned and said ok, fine. Then she told me that 500 was the regular price and that I should be happy she gave me a good deal by saving me 100 rmb. Whatever. She seemed to just say the words and not actually believe what she was saying. I got undressed, she handed me a condom, but I told her I brought my own. She pulled it out of the wrapper, but I put it on myself. She pulled down her panties and I pulled the front of her dress down a bit to uncover her breasts. Not the smallest in the world, but she looked very busty when she was sitting in the front of the shop! She stroked my dick a little bit, then she applied some lube to herself and laid down for missionary. I got on top of her but she seemed to be grossed out and didn't want me to touch her. I tried to put a hand on her pussy and she said no, for that you need to pay more. I was kind of wondering what happened to the BJ as I put myself inside her. I wasn't super hard at this point as she seemed to be doing her best to appear offended by me regardless of her annoyingly fake moaning. I started the motions and she seemed to vacilate between being in pain and being annoyed. She made it really difficult to remain interested. I tried to enjoy myself, but couldn't maintain interest in pounding her. I laid on my back and she took the condom off. She put face right up to my penis, sniffing it and giving it a visual inspection. I almost started laughing. Then she proceeded to give me a HJ and it felt ok, but she had really put me off. We talked a bit about ourselves as I let her tire her arms. She said she was 22 from Guangzhou and had been living in Shanghai for one year. At the end, for grins and giggles, I pretended to come. She got a wipe and put it over my penis as she was jerking me and I simply said that I came. She seemed to believe it. Then her mood suddenly improved and she asked me if I was in Shanghai on holiday or business. I told her that I live and work here and her eyes lit up a little. I got dressed as quickly as I could and got out of there.

I felt like a complete sucker for paying 400 rmb for that. I immediately wanted to try another girl at another shop on that road, because I felt very annoyed and figured it would have to be better. Unfortunately I only brought 600 rmb and no cards with me in case I got into trouble my first time, and had only 200 rmb left. I could only look into the other shops from outside as I walked, but I decided to try again that night.

I had been to the fairly new Global Harbour shopping mall at the Jinshajiang Road metro station and had seen a few BBS next to it on Ningxia Road. I got there around 3 in the morning. I walked into a random one, and there was a single girl in the whole place. She was really cute and I started bargaining with her at 200 rmb. She said 300, I said 200, then 250, then ok 300. I paid her first and then she locked the front door and took me to the back. This place was just as clean as the first one, but the "rooms" were a lot more rudimentary. They were more like little cubicles with a tiny bed and a curtain instead of a door. With this girl things went way better. Every now and then she was making the annoying fake little moans, but I could tell she was enjoying herself. At one point she said she was about to come, but I was too tired to continue and stopped, so she didn't come. She kept complimenting my penis and my skills. I was wondering how much was bullshit and how much was real, but it felt real. She also rhetorically asked why foreigners all have fat and long penises, which I thought was funny. The entire time I had her on top, she wouldn't stop looking at my penis going in and out of her. I was having a great time, but it was really late and I was pretty tired, and I realized there was no way I was going to come quickly as the time was running out. She took my condom off and started giving me a HJ but I told her that it was fine, I had a good time, and that I usually last a long time anyway. She started to ask if sex was good with her and I assured her it was. She said I was very good and asked me to go out and drink with her, followed by her coming home with me. I said maybe. While I would have liked that, especially if it was free, I don't know about letting strangers into my home.

The experience with the first and second girls could not be any more different, and so far are my only experiences. I really don't want to take anyone to my apartment, so I guess I will stick with BBS and want to try a sauna. In this thread I read about a sauna on Loushanguan Road that offers FS for only 298? Is that for real? I thought the average would be 600-800 for that. I've never been inside but I know the place. I live very close to it. Also maybe I should sharpen my bargaining skills. The first girl was 400 and the second was 300, both with no BJ. Could I get any girls to go even lower?

[QUOTE=RogerDodger5;1514612]In this thread I read about a sauna on Loushanguan Road that offers FS for only 298? Is that for real? I thought the average would be 600-800 for that. I've never been inside but I know the place?[/QUOTE]I also thought that sounds interesting, so I went there to check out the shop for our page.

Sorry for that, but I guess the post includes a missunderstanding or an incomplete report.

One of our guides went there and ordered the 298 massage just some days after the report was published to check out the place.

The enviroment is great (you can see on the attached picture) , but for our checking session, the service only includes a lousy handjob.

And even for that she asked for 200 extra first, so I guess for full service the other guy would have been very lucky to get it without extra.

Or could be he forgot to tell us, how much tip he had to pay extra for the full service session?

There is a level between barbershops and sauna places, where you can get full service including shower in the room, BBBJ, touching and so on. Without time limit.

The rate there is between 30 to 45 minutes for 400 to 450 RMB. We use to stop over there for a warmup f* on our nightlife tour.

Some of that shops are not far away from your place. You can send a private message for the adress.

[QUOTE=RogerDodger5; 1514612]I'm new to Shanghai and don't have a lot of experience with P4P, but I was looking around online to see what was up and decided to try it out.

I read about there being some BBS on FangCao Road in Pudong. I wanted to start with somewhere far from home so I took the subway to the FangCao Road station after lunch one day. I took a stroll down the street checking out all the shops there. It was early afternoon on a weekday, and I didn't see any customers walking into or out of any shops, but they all had at least three girls sitting motionless in them. As I walked back from where I came, I walked into a random shop and a girl asked me "qiaobei ma?" I said yes and then chose a good looking girl with a slightly darker complexion. The first sign of trouble was when this girl looked back at me surprised and asked if I wanted her. She unlocked a door to a small passageway, locked the door behind us, and unlocked a second door at the other end. She led me into a small bedroom and closed the door. She started to haggle on the price, but it was strange as she wasn't looking at me as we were speaking with each other. She kept insisting 500 and wouldn't budge. I first offered 200, then 300. After a couple more minutes of me trying to convince her of 300 (which I heard was the standard laowai price) and her not budging an ounce, I said 400..[/QUOTE]In some places, and that not just being in Shanghai, it is virtually impossible to get them down to 200. 300 seems to be the standard laowai price these days. But there are exceptions, keep on changing the area and try different places, and you will find a good one eventually. If you go down the central alley from 1911 (big nightlife area) in Nanjing for example you will find that all the girls tell you it's 300, even though they just asked the Chinese guy who went in a second before you to pay 150. It's impossible to haggle them down. I even went with a Chinese friend once, he paid 150, but they wouldn't budge and so I declined to partake on principle. That being said, there is a dingy little place a few alleys further that asks you 200, and it's the same price for everyone.

Three years ago in Hangzhou, I had some good connections with the Mamasan of one fine BBS Establishment. Price was 200, the girl went with you to a proper apartment and I often took over half an hour (girls were all 7 to 9's in my book, good times). To try something else I went to a place just opposite once and they quoted me 600.

Point of the story is: Since your Chinese is most likely not too bad, you just need to keep looking. See it as an adventure. On that note: I would have gone for a drink with her. In my experience, it is always a good idea to go for the extraordinary. Especially in China. She might have genuinely liked you, who knows.

[QUOTE=ScaPom; 1510475]This is a mixture of report and advertisement, so you are free to take it with a pinch of salt. I opted for posting in the Shanghai section because there were postings about this girl before (not by me, though I forgot by whom; the last one was about 4 month ago) , she might be know under one of her nicks: 911mm.

For those of you who are tired of the mechanical sauna rundown, this could be something indeed, because this girl knows the routine. The girl is a Sichuanese spinner in her later 20s, she is 5ft. Nothing with stunningly large (for her frame that is) , natural breasts. She speaks very little English, but that is no different from the aforementioned saunas, and she is very nice and eager to provide. In case you know some Chinese, you can try it on her too, thus also getting a lesson out of it. She recently moved to Puxi, lives in Huangpuqu in central Shanghai. Her rates are reasonable as she charges 800 for 1. 5 hours, thus beating the saunas and she does longtime too (here she also beats Manhattan for me, as I actually prefer Chinese women and she doesn't charge me much more than the Viet girls)...[/QUOTE]I decided to sign up, so those of you interested in her contact information can drop me a pm now.

Cheers

I had a couple hours to spare on 1/1 afternoon so I walked across the street to SiYuan.

Got there around 3:45. The wait staff indicated there is no wait and rushed me to go straight from the locker room to the lounge.

I originally wanted to get a deep scrubbing / back rub, but nevermind.

The waitstaff escorted me into a standard lounge and asked me to wait there.

Instead of going to the fishbowl, the manager led a lineup of six girls into the room.

I asked what happened to the fishbowl, the manager replied that this is New Year practice.

Alright, I picked up 861 immediately, the manager persuaded me to pick another girl so I asked 861 to recommend.

And 861 selected her friend 805.

861 has a small frame, probably only 15X cm tall, but great proportion considering her tits and waist ratio.

805 has a much larger frame and flesh on her, but she also has a pair of great tits.

Once inside the room, I asked about the lineup, and the girls replied because it is a holiday.

The six girls I saw is pretty much everyone who showed up for work today. OK.

Anyway, I highly recommend this duo. Skill level and enthusiasm are both high.

They offered to give me two shots, so I got my first shot off on the nuru massage bed / wet area.

Then we moved on to the bed, unfortunately I had some trouble concentrating after I got a phone call.

Regardless, they tried to pleasure me as much as they could. 861 is a great tickler, if you are into that sort of thing.

I think the standard service is still 45 minutes.

Still had an hour or so to kill before I was expected back at the Intercontinental for dinner.

Tried to get a ear picker girl but was told all of them were busy.

The staff persuaded me to get a foot massage instead and I complied for the heck of it.

Foot massage lady immediately proposed to upsell the dick massage,

I said I was worried about time but it appeared my little self is responding for me so I agreed.

After she managed to relieve me, my 5:30 deadline was approaching so I got up and left.

Total damage: 18xx RMB.

Definitely not the best service I had, but it is one of the better experiences in Shanghai.

Wish I had more time to fully relax and wait for the ear picker.

[QUOTE=ScaPom;1514709]In some places, and that not just being in Shanghai, it is virtually impossible to get them down to 200. 300 seems to be the standard laowai price these days. But there are exceptions, keep on changing the area and try different places, and you will find a good one eventually.[/QUOTE]I often walk away on principle. I have found Shanghai to be the most difficult to negotiate but I have managed 200 RMB several times in different areas although it does seem to be the exception. The surcharge has been in effect as long as I can remember. Most BBS quote me 300RMB even if I go with a Chinese guy and they quote 150-200RMB for him at the same time. It could be an East China thing since the places you mention are located in that region. Perhaps, if you are a regular customer, it could be easier. Most of my mongering is in South China where I can usually get the local price or close to it. That said, many saunas are starting to implement a 100RMB surcharge for laowai. I wonder who gets the extra money; the girl or the house.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=RogerDodger5; 1514612]She kept insisting 500 and wouldn't budge. I first offered 200, then 300. After a couple more minutes of me trying to convince her of 300 (which I heard was the standard laowai price) and her not budging an ounce, I said 400.

And I started bargaining with her at 200 rmb. She said 300, I said 200, then 250, then ok 300.[/QUOTE]Damn LOL, someone needs to learn to negotiate! And / or walk away. I think the girls tend to stick close to their asking price since not many laowais walk away once they get in the room.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;1514868]Most BBS quote me 300RMB even if I go with a Chinese guy and they quote 150-200RMB for him at the same time.[/QUOTE]They tend to charge more for those who they think have more money, e. G. Laowais. In fact once I let it slip I was from the west (but ethnically Chinese) and the girl got very cross saying I should've been charged the laowai price!

Also I want to assume the price goes up higher if they don't like your look? I don't have anything to back this up though.

Went there again this afternoon.

Unfortunately both 861 and 805 were busy.

So I was presented with a fresh lineup of eight girls in the lounge.

(No fishbowl)

I immediately picked up 801, she recommended 852 or 855 I forgot the number.

In my opinion. 801 is a real stunner, great tits, nice abs, and also sexy face.

The other girl is really petite, I probably would have never picked her based on my preferences.

But it turns out she makes up for it with skill. She is a great licker and a master of using her legs.

The girls only offered me one shot so we did it in the bed after the nuru service.

Then they gave me a hot towel massage on my lower body which felt pretty good.

Apparently all the girls have some variations of the standard operating procedure.

Finally got a ear picker today. 902 is a real cutie.

Of course she tried to upsell the other packages,

But I said I was out of time so I opted just for the regular ear and head service for 15 minutes.

She repeated what my doctor said the other day about ear wax and cotton swabs, so I probably will be heading to an ear expert once I hit stateside.

902 has great hands, and the head massage was really relaxing.

I finally caved in and agreed to add an extra session for my arms.

The ear + head + arm massage package is 198 RMB.

So total damage was 1584 RMB this afternoon.

Today I noticed the title on the credit card receipt, now they use the name of a department store.

I visited Merrylin twice last week and both time as I was about to leave a girl would wrap her arm around mine. The first time the girl said a bunch of stuff in Chinese and I told her in English I don't understand, she finally said "go home?" And I said yes so she walked away. The second time the girl said "long time massage" so I assume she was asking if I wanted to take her back to my hotel. Do guys usually want to do it again right after they just did it at one of these places? I don't remember this being mentioned so I just wanted to ask.

Also, both times I was asked if I wanted two girls. First time was at the fish bowl, the second time me and the girl were already in the room. Anyone know how much it costs for two girls? Is it just double the price?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Marty47;1514169]Here it is. Forgot to down load.[/QUOTE]Thanks Marty47 for a pic of Cathy's fabulous behind and her favourite toy. Mr Pinky.

I get to see her again next week.

Can't wait!

[QUOTE=Vodich; 1514899]Also, both times I was asked if I wanted two girls. First time was at the fish bowl, the second time me and the girl were already in the room. Anyone know how much it costs for two girls? Is it just double the price?

Thanks[/QUOTE]They will only ask you for the second girl, if they have a lot of girls related to the number of customer, so never in "rush hour", but if the place is "dry of business", they will ask you while selection and also the girl will push you for that later in the room.

From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

But at least it is cheap, so not too bad for a first threesome try. The second girl will be charged with only additional 400, so not even near to the double rate. In cheaper saunas, the second girl will be 300, so you can get a 80 minutes FFM for less than 1000 RMB, but don`t forget it will be less than 5% chance for a really hot session.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1515181]From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.[/QUOTE]IMHO, the FFM experience described above is pretty accurate. Worst case: I have even been in situations with one girl waiting in the bathroom until I finish the first one and then switching places. It is never like anything you see in the porn movies.

The disinfecting and condom changing kills the mood for me. I do understand their POV. For them, it is the same as BBFS.

All that said, you can try to make the best of it. Letting one girl pick the second is sound advice. Girls that have experience working together provide better service. What I usually do is focus on one girl I want to stick it in and use the second girl as a supplement to play around with like a starter and the main course.

Just my POV.

OAH

Recently there has been some discussion about prices. So I wanted to make some observations, and ask some questions about bbs mongering. I've been in SH for two years now and have used bbs's on average once per week.

The price two years ago was pretty standard at 200 RMB. Also the package was standardised: BBBJ (occasionally CBJ) followed by covered sex (sometimes uncovered offered as well).

I did once negotiate the price down to 150 RMB. This was Spring 2012. But the plan backfired because the girl – who was incidentally nice looking and young – immediately started complaining that it was too little. She kept telling me to hurry up (she could speak some English which is unusual for a bbs) and told me that the guy in the next booth had paid 400 RMB. That may have been true because I heard an American voice say. 'that's about the best I can do' to his girl! My girl heard it too and began shouting in pidgin English to the guy. Just nonsense talk really but it put me off my stroke.

So since then I've paid 150 for BJ and 200 for FS. Occasionally (maybe three or four times) I've gone to 300. But the last three months I've been quoted 300 on a pretty regular basis. I have to point out that this is at new places (or new girls) where I wasn't recognised. I won't pay it. But it leads me to a question: where, how, and with whom do you negotiate?

Normally I walk in the shop, take the first girl on offer, go to the room and then negotiate. In fact I think I've always done it this way. But on this site I have read that some guys ask about services and prices in the shop. I'm not sure how this works. Sometimes people talk about a mamasan or papasan with whom they negotiate. I have only rarely seen a papasan. Maybe three times (and I inferred from their presence that there were some potential LE problems) and when I walked in the shop they never raised their head or offered to engage in any way. There is one shop on Pu Dong Nan Lu (near to the junction with Tan Qiao Lu where there seems to be a mamasan and she will mediate on any problems (she is also available for sex which I personally find quite arousing).

As stated on this site previously, knowledge of prices is the most powerful weapon on a monger's armour. Hence this appeal for further views.

The second pearl of wisdom is that in mongering, as with all things Chinese, personal relationships are important. If you go to the same girl regularly, the service and the price will be much better. Problem is of course that girls tend to move on but using the same shop helps a lot. The providers realise you know the craic and don't try to exploit you. The disadvantage with this approach is that you may become a familiar face with the locals. My method is to regularly use two or three bbs's in different streets.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1515181]They will only ask you for the second girl, if they have a lot of girls related to the number of customer, so never in "rush hour", but if the place is "dry of business", they will ask you while selection and also the girl will push you for that later in the room.

From my view only, because if two girls serve one customer, than both girls have to work less. That means: you normally will not get any lesbian action or even "sharing" action. Even if they blow you together, very often one will finish, than the other will take a desinfection towel to clean everything, than she start to blow. And it will go on like that, so if you change the girls while interaction, they will change condom and clean your little brother, so most time opposite of what you expect from a good FFM.

But at least it is cheap, so not too bad for a first threesome try. The second girl will be charged with only additional 400, so not even near to the double rate. In cheaper saunas, the second girl will be 300, so you can get a 80 minutes FFM for less than 1000 RMB, but don`t forget it will be less than 5% chance for a really hot session.

One tip to rise up the chance for a good session: ask the first girl to select the second one. Even it will be not 100% your type, the session will be better, if they know and like each other.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! Will be back in Shanghai next week but still debating whether I want to try the two girl option.

Anyone got any info on the girl coming up to you after the session and how that works? I remember seeing like 3 girls standing before the door that goes into the room with the fish bowl before I headed in my second time. These girls are usually more dressed up then the girls in the fish bowl. They seem to be dressed like they're about to go out.

well i arrived saturday morning and settled into the peninsula hotel quickly. decided to take a general stroll around the city and was amazed how quickly i was approached by men and women offering me massage and "sexy sexy". all were extremely persistent and it was only from reading this board and the shanghai night life i knew to steer well clear. i also made the decision to carry only my hotel key (in my shoe) and the cash i was willing to lose if something went sideways. if i had not read otherwise, i probably would have taken any of these offers up on the spot. do all westerners have this problem of being approached and what is the best advice to shut them down quickly?

around 6pm i decided to head back to the hotel and plan my next move. this is where my laziness and lack of commitment post a long flight cost me. given it was still early i liked my chances of getting an escort past the front desk so started searching for something "legitimate". ended up getting a quick email back from baby c which i had read some reasonable reports and reviews on. well this is where my laziness, lack of commitment and obvious inexperience in shanghai kicked in.

"baby c" pushed pretty hard for my room number, hotel address and phone number. seemed like she was keen to make sure i was the real deal which i was ok with. arrived at the hotel within 30 minutes and actually spoke to the desk to get herself let up the elevator. this is where it turned sour. absolutely no chance the girl i was looking at was the girl in the picture. i pulled her pic up on the laptop and she tried to convince me it was her. even attempted to pull the same face as the photo which i thought was kinda hilarious.

i decided to still bust a nut in her regardless. quoted me 4000 rmb if i wanted fs! again i couldn't be bothered getting into a fight about things so i countered with 1000 and she agreed on 1500 promising 3 hours and was "not cheating me". i had now realised letting her in the room was a bad call but i can't really afford a scene in this hotel and the amount of money was immaterial (despite knowing i was being shafted on price).

i then proceeded to receive the most ordinary cbj and cowgirl i have had in a long time. i think we have all been there when you realise a session is so poor there is no point fighting it and all you can do is move on to bigger and better things. as soon as i blew my wad she jumped up, very sexily hocked up something nasty in my basin and got changed. i asked where she was going as we were no more than 30 mins into the booking. her response was she needed to meet someone and she will get her friend,"baby c"! no less. to come and see me soon and she "promise i not cheat you". at this point i was so tired and dis-interested i slung her 100 for her "taxi money" and told her to leave. i then decided to take a nap and replan my assault for later in the evening.

i woke up around 11pm and grabbed some fast food from a global chain (this is an important detail!). then grabbed a taxi and showed the driver a flash card for manhattan. driver nodded his head and within 15 minutes he was dropping me off at the door. this is where things started to slowly improve. i was surprised in general how small the place was but it was definitely busy with a lot more women than men. i was also surprised how expensive drinks are and the amount of smoking inside (i am not hugely anti smoking but i hate the stench that gets into your clothes).

within 90 seconds a 5 out of 10 chinese woman who i would estimate 30 years old grabbed my hand and started rubbing my crotch. i was wary as i had read this was a viable pickpocket technique so i moved on. went to the bar and grabbed a brewskie and started to survey the action. i pulled up a stool towards the back wall of the club and noticed a lot of solo western looking males and a couple of groups of asian men (4-6 guys) who seemed more interested in just messing around and drinking with the girls. all looked pretty much as i expected and reminded me of clubs in orchid towers in singapore.

before i knew it the same 5/10 chinese woman approached me again and asked for a drink of water. which i bought her as i am happy to be friendly in most cases. i was pretty surprised it was 40 rmb for a water but obviously most guys in there are happy to spend the cash. i then had a good look at this woman and asked where she was from. claimed to be from the province closest west of shanghai and spoke pretty solid english. imeadiately said she wanted to stay the night with me and i asked how much out of curiosity. came back with 2500 to which i just nodded for now as i had no interest. i also noticed she was dressed in tracksuit pants and trainers which i thought was kind of a turn off. also no chance i would get her past the desk in my hotel. in the meantime i had spotted a few very nice looking 8/10s but they were all chatting with other guys.

after enjoying the scenery for about 45 minutes while this woman draped herself all over me i told her i had to go to the bathroom and wait by the door for me. i then took a very long leak and when i returned to my seat she was no longer there. what do you guys generally do in this situation? i. e. how do you shut down a woman you aren't interested in staying with? i guess i could have been more direct but she was very persistent.

when i returned i then noticed a 7/10 super small and tight spinner who didn't look chinese to me. regardless i caught her eye and she started dancing in front of me. sure enough turned out she arrived from vietnam that night and introduced me to her friend who was a bit more of a 6/10. however they both had ok english and were much more fun to play around with. just when we were starting to get friendly my old chinese boiler turned up ranting at me in chinese. the viet girls spoke some chinese and told me that i owed her $ for the dick rubs she was giving me. i laughed and gave her 200 for her trouble. she said if i buy her a water as well she will leave. i bought her 2 bottles for good measure and asked the bus boy / waiter to tell her to go away which he did effectively for 100 rmb tip.

i then asked the hotter viet what my chances were for a long time. she said no problem but would prefer if her friend came along. i was relaxed about it and had some good experiences with ffm in other countries so said i would give them 3500 total for both of them if we left now and we went to their place (no chance they were getting past my reception desk. 2am and they were very clearly hookers based on their appearance / clothes).

they agreed and we grabbed a taxi for another 15 minutes away from my hotel geographically. ended up in a very average apartment block that was about 30 stories high. their apartment was extremely modest with nothing but a kitchenette, two rock hard mattresses on the floor and a dodgey toilet. regardless i was ok with it as i have done the deed in worse and they were good fun up until this point.

long story short i pretty much had everything from bbbj, every position and they switched over pretty regularly. the spinner was clearly more into it and much more experienced but that was ok as i didn't mind the shy one as she was a bit more authentic in her moans and groans etc. the only downside was they didn't interact with each other but that is a rarity in most cases and i have only ever seen that where i explicitly paid for it with western girls back home.

i was pretty knackered tired so i slept there until about 11am at which time i woke up and felt sick as a dog (guts, head, body, limbs, back pain). i destroyed their toilet and decided to rest up a bit more to see if it passed. at this point they gave me another round with all the trimmings which was a nice touch. seemed like they were keen to keep me primed for future sessions which i am ok with. about 1pm i told them i needed to head back to the hotel as i was feeling terrible all over. i got their numbers and told them i would be in touch.

arrived back at the hotel and tried to sleep some more. by about 6pm i was vomiting profusely and got a little worried when i was seeing a lot of blood in the basin. as i now write this 24 hours later i am feeling a little bit better but don't want to move too far from the hotel as i am not sure if i can hold the lunch i had today. i typically don't have problems with food anywhere in asia but something has definitely put me down for the count which i am pretty annoyed about.

i am pretty interested to hear what you guys suggest i should attempt to do tonight. i would like to try manhattan again but i am worried i will see the same girls again and i really want to keep things dynamic and not go for the same girls too often. there were so many others there i would have been interested in staying long time with. how do you avoid running in to the same girls each night? they admitted they are here for 1 month and the apartment belongs to their "boss". they plan on hitting manhattan every night for the whole month.

i think my next plan should be a sauna as i am still feeling pretty average. although i have been emailing a private escort "kitty" back and forth from the same site who looks pretty hot. i however fear that i will be shafted the same as my first experience.

can anyone suggest a good sauna somewhere close-ish to the peninsuala? ba li ya club and tang dynasty get good write ups by shanghai nightlife but not sure if i want to be in the taxi too long with dodgey stomach.

regardless i will most likely do something tonight and appreciate any comments, feedback or suggestions!

Poker Broker,

Stop throwing money at your problems. You are'nt necessarilly spending too much for your girls but you are on the tips. Just tell them to go away or maybe later. Your first Chinese girl did not deserve a tip or water. I can't tell you how many dick rubs and bare breast (and sometimes bare ass if they wear a skirt) feels I have gotten at Manhattans only to turn them away.

99% of the girls are not offended, they just want to move on to their next mark. They appreciate not wasting their time. I have never seen a girl make a scene in Manhattans. I am not saying it doesn't happen. If it does it is rare.

Another issue at Manhattan's is after you set a price with a girl, you usually never pay less. Better to tell them you pay more if they are "good to you". Thea girls talk so they will all know what you paid. walk 2 blocks south to Judy's which is right on Nanjing lu. across from the Portman but 2-3 blocks west ( i think west). there is a little less talent there than Manhattan's but also fun. It is probably a 5-10 min walk from Manhattans.

I have been told that if you wait until 3:30 or 4:00 the girls get nervous they will not bring someone home and prices get cheap. Of course availability of beautys is less and i have never wanted to wait that long for a couple bucks. i always wanted to go out for a second " discount round" but never tried.


Good luck, play safe.

[QUOTE=SamCan; 1516121]Poker Broker,

Stop throwing money at your problems. You are'nt necessarilly spending too much for your girls but you are on the tips. Just tell them to go away or maybe later. Your first Chinese girl did not deserve a tip or water. I can't tell you how many dick rubs and bare breast (and sometimes bare ass if they wear a skirt) feels I have gotten at Manhattans only to turn them away.

99% of the girls are not offended, they just want to move on to their next mark. They appreciate not wasting their time. I have never seen a girl make a scene in Manhattans. I am not saying it doesn't happen. If it does it is rare.

Another issue at Manhattan's is after you set a price with a girl, you usually never pay less. Better to tell them you pay more if they are "good to you". Thea girls talk so they will all know what you paid. Walk 2 blocks south to Judy's which is right on Nanjing lu. Across from the Portman but 2-3 blocks west (I think west). There is a little less talent there than Manhattan's but also fun. It is probably a 5-10 min walk from Manhattans.

I have been told that if you wait until 3:30 or 4:00 the girls get nervous they will not bring someone home and prices get cheap. Of course availability of beautys is less and I have never wanted to wait that long for a couple bucks. I always wanted to go out for a second " discount round" but never tried.

Good luck, play safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Appreciate the advice. I am definitely going to plan my actions a little more carefully next time around. I always tend to be a bit loose on my first run in a new country as it is all a bit exciting first time round. I didn't mention in my original post I got the "water bottle" girl down to 1000 LT pretty quickly so shows there is clearly plenty of room to move.

I like the 4am strategy as it has worked well for me in the past a Beach and other places in Malaysia. However my major constraint at the moment is the hotel reception which I can see being awkward depending on the time and look of the girl. Also if I bring back two that is going to cause even more suspicion no doubt.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1515202]IMHO, the FFM experience described above is pretty accurate. Worst case: I have even been in situations with one girl waiting in the bathroom until I finish the first one and then switching places. It is never like anything you see in the porn movies.

The disinfecting and condom changing kills the mood for me. I do understand their POV. For them, it is the same as BBFS.

All that said, you can try to make the best of it. Letting one girl pick the second is sound advice. Girls that have experience working together provide better service. What I usually do is focus on one girl I want to stick it in and use the second girl as a supplement to play around with like a starter and the main course.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]I must have been lucky over the years with threesomes from Thailand to China to Australia.

There are ways of fucking 2 women at once.

My most recent experience was in Wenzhou. 5 months ago, when my mates took 3 hours to organise a threesome for me. Total cost to my mates 1,000rmb.

To my delight they were absolute stunners who were trying to outdo themselves.

They were trying to see who could do the:

- best deep throat.

- the longest gag.

- the longest fuck pounding.

These girls never left my cock for an hour. Having 2 girls suck your cock who really enjoy it is something.

Double DATY required some work but can be done.

They were happy to have me fuck one girl while I was almost fisting the other and then swaps.

Just amazing stuff.

Alas contacting them since has been unsuccessful since but I will keep trying.

[QUOTE=Poker Broker;1516105]Well I arrived Saturday morning and settled into the Peninsula hotel quickly. .[/QUOTE]Hi Poker Broker,

Sent you a PM.

[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1516131]Thanks. Appreciate the advice. I am definitely going to plan my actions a little more carefully next time around. I always tend to be a bit loose on my first run in a new country as it is all a bit exciting first time round. I didn't mention in my original post I got the "water bottle" girl down to 1000 LT pretty quickly so shows there is clearly plenty of room to move.

I like the 4am strategy as it has worked well for me in the past a Beach and other places in Malaysia. However my major constraint at the moment is the hotel reception which I can see being awkward depending on the time and look of the girl. Also if I bring back two that is going to cause even more suspicion no doubt.[/QUOTE]All it means is you have to sign the girl in. Chinese law states guest must be registerred. The girls at Manhattan's understand this and have an I'd at the ready.

I have signed a girl into the Hilton Shanghai many times. It is no more painful than checking in yourself. Don't worry about it.

I don't know if there is an issue with signing in two girls. Maybe someone else can say.

I brought a massage girl to my room once. The Hilton told me I could not check her in. They said she was already checked into another room. If they checked the same girl in twice, they would have to call the PO PO. So even when there was an opportunity to get in trouble they warned me as they did not want the issue either.

Hey all,

I'm a follower of this post, thanks to all for your detailed reports! Props to SamCan for the constant relevant info, thank you. I thought it best to contribute something so here goes:

I'm a frequent business traveler to SH, have gone to various spas and soapy joints with great experiences. HaiLang / Waves is a sure-shot, I always have a good experience there. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a big fan of prostate massage, which they don't do at Waves, but which I've gotten many times at the little place on 484 Xikang Lu, until, to my dismay, they shut down about 2 months ago. So I went online looking for prostate massage in shanghai and came up with a bunch of outcall services. One had a good website with a great description of prostate massage, so I thought hey, that's exactly what I'm looking for. It's called Red Shanghai Massage. 137-6113-2926, I call the number, and go into detail of what I'm looking for: 90 minute massage, body-to-body, with prostate rub and HJ. The lady confirms all, in decent English so I knew she understood. Price is 1000+100 taxi money. I know that's a lot from reading this forum. But Waves is 900 + my taxi money (and no prostate, and I don't do the full service part) , I don't know any spas that for sure do this, and my hotel is legit (owned by the gov't I think) so I don't want to bring back a girl from Manhattan's late at night.

Anyway, girl shows up, extremely confused and paranoid. She's like 20, 8/10, but the worst attitude ever. She spends 2-3 minutes texting as soon as she gets in, I figure OK, she's being safe, that's cool. She says:

Girl: "just massage?"

Me: "Massage and prostate. 90 minutes."

"Just massage 800. No HJ, and with clothes."

"No, I confirmed with lady no clothes, prostate. 90 minutes"

"This much more money! You give me 1500 and taxi money OK la!"

So I show her the website, it's open on my computer, show her prostate massage is 1000, I will pay 1100 total, or she can leave right now. She final agrees, with this sour look and roll of her eyes. This is like a 15 minute process. So we undress, she leaves her bottoms on, didn't want to keep arguing with her so OK. Gives me the weakest massage ever, stopping every 2 minutes to either take a call, make a call, or send / receive text. After 10 minutes I'm like OK, U-turn off your phone, call your friend later. She starts telling me this whole thing in broken English (at best) about a problem with her bank, like I give a shit. I'm like let's just continue. So after the first 10 minutes, every 3 minutes she asks if she can start prostate massage. Like no ST, nothing to get me in the mood. I tell her no, keep going, she rolls her eyes, and goes another 3 minutes. Finally she just rips open a condom, puts it on her finger to start the prostate massage. She has clearly never done this before. Tries to ram her finger with condom up my bum with no lube, I tell her to use lube, which I provide. I have to show her exactly what to do, and no sensual interaction whatsoever. She goes "you like man?" I say no, I only like lady."Then why you like this?" Most awkward exchange ever. I have her go on for like 10 minutes, and she's had enough. She's still fielding calls and texts every couple of minutes.

So I turn over, I want to feel her body, and she's like all skittish about it. But we find a medium, like PG-13 rated (but nude). Starts the HJ, and I'm hard but taking my sweet ass time. She keeps like rolling her eyes every couple of minutes as her hands get tired. Finally after like 10 minutes I decide alright, F-it, and go.

"You finished?"

"Yea."

"OK"

She cleans herself up, puts on her clothes, goes "Good Luck" and walks out.

15 minutes arguing + 20 minute massage + 10 minute HJ = 45 minutes total, in and out.

By far the worst mongering experience I've ever had. But it could be worse, I could have gotten scammed, sorry for all you out there who have experienced that and thanks for helping me avoid it. Now I've blown my budget, heading home in a few days. Lesson learned. Thought I'd share the above with the crew here, sorry so lengthy, but thanks for reading my rant!

Safe travels everyone.

i am still feeling a little shabby from whatever gut bug i have contracted so i was tossing up taking a run at my first sauna or spinning the roulette wheel on another outcall escort. i decided on the latter due to how i was feeling and started to research online a bit more carefully. i also planned my negotiation more stringently given the last result and aimed to set the price up front to avoid any problems.

i had already had a few texts back from "kitty" on my previous attempt so thought i would try her again. i could see she has some good "reviews" on a few sites but i now realise reviews aren't worth much if anything at all. regardless i baited a response from her with the offer of overnight at the quoted rate of 3500 straight up and i received a speedy reply in good english.

i explained pretty clearly in the back and forths that if anything other than the photo turns up at my hotel i will be sending her back from where she came. i got a quick text back saying "ok. see you soon". this left me underwhelmed but i thought fuck it. i will take the advice i have been given and tell her to knick off if she is no good. as an interesting aside, about this time my hotel landline rang and it was the incall girl i had from my first night. "hello darling. i come back and give you another massage". the gall! i told her no thanks and hung up. clearly they felt they had found their mark and would continue to exploit it!

then my phone rang again at which point i was ready to unleash a tirade but it was kitty calling to tell me she will be 30-45 minutes as it was raining outside and taxis were slow / hard to come by. i figured this wasn't a terrible sign and told her to take her time. about 45 minutes later my phone rang again and she told me she was pulling up at the hotel and asked if she could get to my room without a key. i told her that i would meet her downstairs and prepared to sign her in if i had to. luckily for me by the time the lift door opened she was standing in front of me and stepped straight in.

i was genuinely torn at this point as if i had to bet my life on it i would say she wasn't the girl in the pic. however i would still say she was a solid 8/10 and maybe even a touch higher. on second inspection of the photo i could be wrong as clearly pictures can be deceiving, however i was more than happy with the result in terms of looks. kitty was immediately friendly and playful in the elevator and she had made quite an effort to look sexy without looking like an obvious working girl. another good sign in my books so i was feeling positive thus far.

upon arriving in the room she seemed a little shy so i figured get her at ease quickly and handed her the agreed amount of cash. i noticed she then quickly sent a text and seemed to settle down a little more and we chatted on the bed for 15 mins or so. english was good and we could easily hold a basic conversation and watched a little bit of tv. kitty then offered a massage which i agreed and she stripped naked to a very small, tight and impressive body.

at this point i had decided i wanted to probably keep her on the boil for the remainder of my stay should i come up empty on remaining nights. typically on those i figure worth keeping as a semi-regular i tend to be a bit less selfish in the sack. in that vain i went down on her for a solid 15 minutes until she undeniably came and also soaked the sheets pretty handsomely. at this point i felt her warm up a whole lot more and she proceeded to give a pretty good cbj. ideally we are all looking for a bbbj but i let it slide as i was far more interested in fucking her anyway. after about 5 minutes when then moved through a wide range of positions and it was an excellent unrushed gfe session. right into it all the way through and i will be definitely looking for a repeat.

this is where i was pleasantly surprised and perhaps she was smart enough to try and build some rapport of her own. she said she had work at 630am in the morning and would stay all night and go straight to work or alternatively give me back half the cash and leave now. i was pretty happy to let her go as i was knackered myself and knew i had done all i needed to do to lock in something in the future at reasonable rates and service.

we messed around and chatted a bit more and she has only just left the room. all in all a good experience and one i was starting to worry i may not find here in shanghai. i have always typically had really strong relationships with thai and viet girls in a mongering sense. don't get me wrong. i know they are all working girls and professionals deep down, but i was really struggling to find a good connection with anything thus far and you get the sense everyone is looking to scam you at every opportunity in this city.

regardless kitty may have changed my opinion on this in the short term and i will likely end up seeing her again during this trip.

hopefully hit a sauna tomorrow and report back.

Hey Tomcruz,

The bad reports are good to read as well as the good ones! It let's us know Shanghai is not always easy. I used to get a good prostate massage from #10 at 1808 bejing lu. #18 on chanping lu / shaanxi lu also can help you out in this regard. Both are excellent. I hear 18 is not around however.

Keep the reports coming, I look forward to my next trip to Shanghai some more tips from you!

SamCan, Canyou?

Just a quick note. I've been using this MP Hai Shang Yuan for a couple of months now. Have had some good times and occasionally a mediocre massage too (that's you #2).

When I left the other day the mammasan tries to tell me something in English. All I got was closing doors and 9. I tried to get some clarity but it seems like something about shutting up the business maybe on the 9th. Or the 9th month?

Anyone got any ideas.

Gutted to see that my other go too MP jinlin has closed. Where to now? I'll have to try some of the other suggestions around here. Thanks for the contributions chaps.

WM

[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1516105]Can anyone suggest a good Sauna somewhere close-ish to The Peninsuala? Ba Li Ya Club and Tang Dynasty get good write ups by Shanghai Nightlife but not sure if I want to be in the taxi too long with dodgey stomach.

Regardless I will most likely do something tonight and appreciate any comments, feedback or suggestions![/QUOTE]633 Top Sauna Club is about 4. 2km to The Peninsula.

Address: 6 / F, Xuebao Mall, No. 633, Huaihai Middle Road, Huangpu District

Yuquan Club former name Feng Ding Yuan Club is about 2. 9km to The Peninsula.

Address: 6F Nanjing Lu 580, Xuhui District.

[QUOTE=Tomcruz; 1516547]Hey all,

I'm a frequent business traveler to SH, have gone to various spas and soapy joints with great experiences. HaiLang / Waves is a sure-shot, I always have a good experience there. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a big fan of prostate massage, which they don't do at Waves, but which I've gotten many times at the little place on 484 Xikang Lu, until, to my dismay, they shut down about 2 months ago. So I went online looking for prostate massage in shanghai and came up with a bunch of outcall services.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the news about 484 Xikang Lu, next time maybe you can try the chain store:Spring Massage. They also provide the prostate massage.

i got to tell you. you are messing up the prices in sh. you are paying to much for a little fun.

just contact cathy-a lot less and a lot more fun!

[quote=poker broker; 1516702]i am still feeling a little shabby from whatever gut bug i have contracted so i was tossing up taking a run at my first sauna or spinning the roulette wheel on another outcall escort. i decided on the latter due to how i was feeling and started to research online a bit more carefully. i also planned my negotiation more stringently given the last result and aimed to set the price up front to avoid any problems.

i had already had a few texts back from "kitty" on my previous attempt so thought i would try her again. i could see she has some good "reviews" on a few sites but i now realise reviews aren't worth much if anything at all. regardless i baited a response from her with the offer of overnight at the quoted rate of 3500 straight up and i received a speedy reply in good english.

i explained pretty clearly in the back and forths that if anything other than the photo turns up at my hotel i will be sending her back from where she came. i got a quick text back saying "ok. see you soon". this left me underwhelmed but i thought fuck it. i will take the advice i have been given and tell her to knick off if she is no good. as an interesting aside, about this time my hotel landline rang and it was the incall girl i had from my first night."hello darling. i come back and give you another massage". the gall! i told her no thanks and hung up. clearly they felt they had found their mark and would continue to exploit it!

then my phone rang again at which point i was ready to unleash a tirade but it was kitty calling to tell me she will be 30-45 minutes as it was raining outside and taxis were slow / hard to come by. i figured this wasn't a terrible sign and told her to take her time. about 45 minutes later my phone rang again and she told me she was pulling up at the hotel and asked if she could get to my room without a key. i told her that i would meet her downstairs and prepared to sign her in if i had to. luckily for me by the time the lift door opened she was standing in front of me and stepped straight in.

i was genuinely torn at this point as if i had to bet my life on it i would say she wasn't the girl in the pic. however i would still say she was a solid 8/10 and maybe even a touch higher. on second inspection of the photo i could be wrong as clearly pictures can be deceiving, however i was more than happy with the result in terms of looks. kitty was immediately friendly and playful in the elevator and she had made quite an effort to look sexy without looking like an obvious working girl. another good sign in my books so i was feeling positive thus far.

upon arriving in the room she seemed a little shy so i figured get her at ease quickly and handed her the agreed amount of cash. i noticed she then quickly sent a text and seemed to settle down a little more and we chatted on the bed for 15 mins or so. english was good and we could easily hold a basic conversation and watched a little bit of tv. kitty then offered a massage which i agreed and she stripped naked to a very small, tight and impressive body.

at this point i had decided i wanted to probably keep her on the boil for the remainder of my stay should i come up empty on remaining nights. typically on those i figure worth keeping as a semi-regular i tend to be a bit less selfish in the sack. in that vain i went down on her for a solid 15 minutes until she undeniably came and also soaked the sheets pretty handsomely. at this point i felt her warm up a whole lot more and she proceeded to give a pretty good cbj. ideally we are all looking for a bbbj but i let it slide as i was far more interested in fucking her anyway. after about 5 minutes when then moved through a wide range of positions and it was an excellent unrushed gfe session. right into it all the way through and i will be definitely looking for a repeat.

this is where i was pleasantly surprised and perhaps she was smart enough to try and build some rapport of her own. she said she had work at 630am in the morning and would stay all night and go straight to work or alternatively give me back half the cash and leave now. i was pretty happy to let her go as i was knackered myself and knew i had done all i needed to do to lock in something in the future at reasonable rates and service.

we messed around and chatted a bit more and she has only just left the room. all in all a good experience and one i was starting to worry i may not find here in shanghai. i have always typically had really strong relationships with thai and viet girls in a mongering sense. don't get me wrong. i know they are all working girls and professionals deep down, but i was really struggling to find a good connection with anything thus far and you get the sense everyone is looking to scam you at every opportunity in this city.

regardless kitty may have changed my opinion on this in the short term and i will likely end up seeing her again during this trip.

hopefully hit a sauna tomorrow and report back.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Marty47; 1517054]I got to tell you. You are messing up the prices in SH. You are paying to much for a little fun.

Just contact Cathy-a lot less and a LOT MORE FUN![/QUOTE]Seriously!

[quote=poker broker; 1516702].

i had already had a few texts back from "kitty" on my previous attempt so thought i would try her again. i could see she has some good "reviews" on a few sites but i now realise reviews aren't worth much if anything at all. regardless i baited a response from her with the offer of overnight at the quoted rate of 3500 straight up and i received a speedy reply in good english.

-[/quote]hi poker broker,

very interesting reports.

hope you are better now.

could you please send me contacts, sites and info about kitty and baby c (private message of course).

you can also try malong meishi pub. 255 tongren road jing'an.

thanks

[QUOTE=Marty47; 1517054]I got to tell you. You are messing up the prices in SH. You are paying to much for a little fun.

Just contact Cathy-a lot less and a LOT MORE FUN![/QUOTE]Surely he is overpaying and he knows that. Probably the emotion and the little head taking the lead. But having said that he is not certainly messing up the prices in Shangai. I am sure at that very same moments there were probably another 50 or 100 guys spreaded within Shangai city limits pairing the same or more, maybe in a KTV, maybe in an upscale soapie, maybe with a freelancer picked up from the street opposite the hotel, maybe a supposedly uno- girl, and so on and so on.

Surely those expensive girls are not for everyone but let it be.

Correct to say he has overpaid, but I can't see how few punters can mess up prices in SH. She is not the only provider in town kicking away the guys willing to pay less. For everyone like her, there are maybe 50 ready to go for for much less.

Do we read in an imaginary Shangai WG forum that the girl doing LT. For 500 are spoiling the provider market?

Agree totally.

Lev

[QUOTE=BionicMan; 1517582]Surely he is overpaying and he knows that. Probably the emotion and the little head taking the lead. But having said that he is not certainly messing up the prices in Shangai. I am sure at that very same moments there were probably another 50 or 100 guys spreaded within Shangai city limits pairing the same or more, maybe in a KTV, maybe in an upscale soapie, maybe with a freelancer picked up from the street opposite the hotel, maybe a supposedly uno- girl, and so on and so on.

Surely those expensive girls are not for everyone but let it be.

Correct to say he has overpaid, but I can't see how few punters can mess up prices in SH. She is not the only provider in town kicking away the guys willing to pay less. For everyone like her, there are maybe 50 ready to go for for much less.

Do we read in an imaginary Shangai WG forum that the girl doing LT. For 500 are spoiling the provider market?[/QUOTE]

Great work everyone, the Shanghai forum has become pretty hot of late!

I arrived couple days ago and haven't had time for mongering yet. But hope to make up for it over the next week!

I've got couple questions:

1. I'd like to take out my ISG subscription, so I can send / receive PMs and hopefuly hook up with some like-minded guys here, but I don't want to pay for it with my regular credit card so it can't be traced to me. Does anyone know if you can buy those stored value credit cards in China, and if so, would there be any issue paying for my ISG subs with one?

2. I was interested in taking a look at Cathy, however her site is down. Can anyone shed any light?

Happy mongering!

AX

[QUOTE=Poker Broker; 1516702]-

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I had already had a few texts back from "Kitty" on my previous attempt so thought I would try her again.[/QUOTE]Poker Broker,

Thanks for the PM but I am interested in Kitty and where did you find her?

Zapata's. 5 Hengshan Road Xuhui, has good reports as well and it is in walking distance to Hengshan Road Station of line 1.

From Hengshan Road Station 500 meters on Hengshan Road to North East.

Hi all,

Been reading the forum for the past couple of months and picked up some valuable tips. Thought it time to start sharing some of my experiences and little things I have found.

BBS.

From the first day I arrived in Shanghai I had spotted them, as within my area there is around 10, around Xincun Road (line 7).

From the subway a 2 minutes walk to Yijun Road between Shuangshan Road and Ansai Road, there are 7 BBS along this small stretch of road with girls ranging from 6 to a good more then a few 9's.

The first one I checked out was before I came across ISG was 300 RMB, since going though pages and pages of valuable info, the last of time I only been payed 200 RMB, when I walked in I was quoted 300 but replied with 150 which they refused so I went to walk out when she counted with 200, the standard HJ wasn't working so slipped her and extra 50 and received a semi good BBBJ.

As mentioned this little strip has 7 shops in the area of 200 metres, plus if you like to look around there is another 5 in adjacent streets.

During the day the street is pretty busy but from around 9:30pm it dies down, but late night you will always find a few Chinese guys walking around all with the same thing on there mind.

Cheers for reading and stay curios

Hey guys,

I was wondering are there places that do foot massages that have happy endings? I really like foot massages and a lot of places body massages could be half assed and cost way more. Just wondering.

I hadn't been to Manhattan in quite a while, but the last month I had a couple of opportunities to overnight in Shanghai, so thought I would take the plunge.

I still remember the days of the old club on Tongren Lu, but those fun filled nights are long gone. What was then a largely Filipina and Thai population is now almost all Viet and even a few Chinese ladies, with a small number of So. Amer and Indo's thrown in for something different.

I've gotten lucky with the Viet girls for the most part. I admit that I tend to stay away from the stunners as they always have a lot of suitors, and know that they can get a client almost any night. I try to find the fairly new arrivals, and the ones that suit my "look", but aren't always the superstars. As a rule I find the ones that are near or just over the 30 year old range tend to give me the best "bang for the yuan" if you will. My two recent visits resulted in one Hanoi lady, her name is Angela, a taller Viet about 28 years old and a lot more curvy than the normal Viet and also Le Moon, a nice Malay find with a great rack and nice round ass. She was from KL and also near 30 I would assume. They both should be around for another couple of weeks, before the visa expires.

They both were open to anal, and I did sample a little bit. Not an everyday event for me, but was a nice diversion for a change. I didn't complete the session this way, as I had other desires as well.

They started asking about 1500, but I offered 800 for short time and a little extra for the anal efforts. I got digits from them both and actually had a repeat later in the week from the Malay gal. I know they would have stayed the night for 1200, maybe less without the backdoor included.

I do miss the days of the Pinay's and had a line on a couple of them at Judy's Too last summer, but haven't seen anything worthwhile at Judy's recently.

The best thing about Manhattan's is that you can get something that is not a mainland gal, but won't break the bank. They Russian girls at Bar Rouge are hot, but mercenary as hell. And well, I don't like them that much.

I see that a few guys are still scoring a Zapatas, I haven't gotten lucky there in two years or more.

Just a quick update from my viewpoint.

[QUOTE=JohnDoe2121; 1518788]Hey guys,

I was wondering are there places that do foot massages that have happy endings? I really like foot massages and a lot of places body massages could be half assed and cost way more. Just wondering.[/QUOTE]Many massage places with happy ending offer foot massages and other kinds of massage.

[QUOTE=Persian Fellow; 1517889]Poker Broker,

Thanks for the PM but I am interested in Kitty and where did you find her?[/QUOTE]Just google "shanghai escort kitty", you'll find her contact info.

Join our Shanghai Nightlife KTV Party on this Friday (17th).

This time we changed to a more "uperclass" KTV with better rooms and High Class girls selection.

They also have "student" girls (young Chinese girls in student uniforms) for selection, so if you like it, come over!

If you like to join us, than feel free to show to our party night.

How will it work:

- The party fee for the evening is 1000 RMB for each of us including all room and crew fee and a free flow of beer and soft drinks for the night.

- Our party start this Friday 17th of January at 7:30 pm with a short introduction, than we will select the girls.

- The sitting fee will be 500 for a normal girl. 600 for "special" ones. 700 for a model (and they have REALLY HOT Model-Girls there)

- In our party we will not sing (except someone like to, so you should not be afraid about that) , but we play and drink together with the girls.

- Sitting fee in our KTV also include a lot of naughty games with touching and so on (the girls will be sometimes topless or even take off their underwear).

- If you like to take out your girl later when the party is finished, the short time fee will be 1500, overnight 2000 RMB. We also have a "arrangement" with the mamasan, so if you like to pick up a sexy young Chinese girl later after you joined our party one time, you can contact our Mamasan and only pay the Mamasan Fee (RMB 600) and select your girl or even call her to your room, so after you join our party, than later no room or party necessary any more, so it is also a good investment for your future pickup adventures.

If you are new to the "KTV-Party-Thing" or never checked out a naughty KTV, you should take this chance and join our party.

More details and a booking form, you can find here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.our-ktv-party/[/url]

Hope we can have a great party night together.

Steven

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1519053]I guess he is talking about that Kitty:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/real-escort-girls/sweet-kitty-escort/[/url]

For Zapata`s I attached a location card for mobile phones (but can also be downloaded in our "Pickup-Bar" Area).

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/pickup-bars/zapata-s/[/url][/QUOTE]Hi Shanghai Guide,

Baby C is also on the site and since Poker Broker was not happy with her, seems the girls on the site are somehow hit & miss?!

Anyway thanks for the link.

Fellow

Will be in SH for the next 3 weeks again. How's the availability of girls at the big saunas? Still a good selection or not worth going?

And what's Red Rope in Chinese?

Thanks for your answers!

[QUOTE=SHTravel; 1520945]Will be in SH for the next 3 weeks again. How's the availability of girls at the big saunas? Still a good selection or not worth going?

And what's Red Rope in Chinese?

Thanks for your answers![/QUOTE]Expect some slim pickins I'm afraid. Most of the provincial girls will be heading home by the 25th or so. Even the Viets at Manhattan should be clearing out by the 26th or so. I am in the same bait arriving in SH on the 23 and staying till the 1st. Will be checking out the sauna at Merrylin hotel Thursday evening.

[QUOTE=SHTravel; 1520945]Will be in SH for the next 3 weeks again. How's the availability of girls at the big saunas? Still a good selection or not worth going?

And what's Red Rope in Chinese?

Thanks for your answers![/QUOTE]Ah yes, a newbie with only one post, asking a question whose answer can be easily found with a few minutes of effort. The term "red rope" has been discussed numerous times on this forum, so. RTFF!

The Shanghai Nightlife Guide that was quoted in several recent posts also discusses Red Rope and lists the AMPs where a customer can hopefully obtain that service.

By the way, this particular service is becoming harder to find, but is well worth it if provided by someone who knows what they're doing. I received a memorable red rope service at Hailang Spa in March 2012 (Post # 5103, over 150 pages below this one).

Happy reading!

First trip into Shanghai in a few weeks. I've read down through the last 20 pages or so plus did a search for Zhongshan Park and didn't find much info. Is there much to do in the area?

I've been to Guangzhou numerous times and Beijing a few times so I'm ok with the China drill, but have no experience in Shanghai.

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=SHTravel; 1520945]Will be in SH for the next 3 weeks again. How's the availability of girls at the big saunas? Still a good selection or not worth going?

And what's Red Rope in Chinese?

Thanks for your answers![/QUOTE]I guess you will not have any problem to have fun in a Sauna or in Manhattan. From my view, you should remember you can not have fun with more than 3 girls at the same time, so it can at the venue will be less selection, but every place will still have enough sexy girls for you. In the Sauna Clubs, there will be less girls, but also less customers. For example in in Jun Hao you will have 70 to 100 girls on a good day, but even on that day - because the club will be busy - for selection never more than 15 to 20 girls "on the stage". Now with only 40 girls and less customers, you still will have 10 to 20 for selection, and there is no rule only the pretty ones will go home for holiday. Also in Manhattan you will have less girls, but also less customers, but it will never be really "dead" there, so overall no need to worry.

[blue][Photo(s) deleted by Admin][/blue][QUOTE=SHTravel; 1520945]And what's Red Rope in Chinese?

Thanks for your answers![/QUOTE]It's called Hong Sheng. Feitian sauna do have this servie, just google feitian sauna, you'll get the address.

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Went to 1808 Beijing Lu a couple of times last year and was always offered the "Romantic Massage" for 398 RMB (the one including FS after the massage). However it seems this is no longer on the menu.

Been there twice already this year and the girl at the desk only offered a 298 RMB massage which would include a titty job at the end, but she insisted that there is no 398 RMB massage.

[QUOTE=Lennylein; 1522839]Went to 1808 Beijing Lu a couple of times last year and was always offered the "Romantic Massage" for 398 RMB (the one including FS after the massage). However it seems this is no longer on the menu.

Been there twice already this year and the girl at the desk only offered a 298 RMB massage which would include a titty job at the end, but she insisted that there is no 398 RMB massage.[/QUOTE]I'm impressed. Your report is proof that a first-time report by a newbie poster can actually give useful information instead of asking dumb questions like "are there any working girls in Shanghai?".

Sounds like you know a decent amount about the Shanghai scene, particularly the BBSs. I look forward to reading more reports from you.

Lenny.

Which providers at 1808 were good and which ones are to be avoided? Did they ask for a tip above the 298 rate? Did #10 return? #8 told me she was at another location.

BJ.

Went to 1808 Beijing Lu a couple of times last year and was always offered the "Romantic Massage" for 398 RMB (the one including FS after the massage). However it seems this is no longer on the menu.

Been there twice already this year and the girl at the desk only offered a 298 RMB massage which would include a titty job at the end, but she insisted that there is no 398 RMB massage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1523125]Lenny.

Which providers at 1808 were good and which ones are to be avoided? Did they ask for a tip above the 298 rate? Did #10 return? #8 told me she was at another location[/QUOTE]I didn't go for the 298 massage. Just went there twice this year to check whether the "Romantic Massage" was still available. When they said no just left since I wasn't looking for just a "titty job". FS might probably still be available if you negotiate with the girl directly. But I guesstimate that would cost you an additional 200-300 and for that money a sauna is the better option.

Before, none of the girls ever asked for a tip. I usually asked for #6 or #9 since they both gave a decent massage and FS afterwards.

Gents,

Apologies for interrupting the flow of reports.

I have an urgent request from a mate based in a small town in Anhui. Seems he has picked up a dose and rather than go local. He apparently is one of around laowais where he is based and worries about confidentiality. Is asking if anyone knows of a pharmacy in Shanghai where he can pick up a Z-PAK? I did hear that several years back there were places that offered a 'prescription service' I. E. You give scientific name and they arrange a script for an additional fee.

He's in town this weekend, so if anyone could provide an update / relevant info, he'the be very grateful.

And yes. For all you jokers out there. It really is for a mate&65281;

[QUOTE=Cooler Wolf2; 1523198]Gents,

Apologies for interrupting the flow of reports.

I have an urgent request from a mate based in a small town in Anhui. Seems he has picked up a dose and rather than go local. He apparently is one of around laowais where he is based and worries about confidentiality. Is asking if anyone knows of a pharmacy in Shanghai where he can pick up a Z-PAK? I did hear that several years back there were places that offered a 'prescription service' I. E. You give scientific name and they arrange a script for an additional fee.

He's in town this weekend, so if anyone could provide an update / relevant info, he'the be very grateful.

And yes. For all you jokers out there. It really is for a mate.[/QUOTE]Your mate should simply walk into the closest pharmacy and ask for a Z-pak. They are often on display (under glass) and I have never had any trouble picking up a Z-pak without a prescription.

[QUOTE=Cooler Wolf2; 1523198]Gents,

Apologies for interrupting the flow of reports.

I have an urgent request from a mate based in a small town in Anhui. Seems he has picked up a dose and rather than go local. He apparently is one of around laowais where he is based and worries about confidentiality. Is asking if anyone knows of a pharmacy in Shanghai where he can pick up a Z-PAK? I did hear that several years back there were places that offered a 'prescription service' I. E. You give scientific name and they arrange a script for an additional fee.

He's in town this weekend, so if anyone could provide an update / relevant info, he'the be very grateful.

And yes. For all you jokers out there. It really is for a mate&65281; [/QUOTE]I don't, but if you read back, you will find a few pages back a pharmacy that does viagra. If they do that, maybe they will do this? I don't know the Chinese term for azithromicin.

I did not know that was enough to clear a dose? I carry it all the time for traveller's sickness (the shitz) when I am overseas. Can any monger verify that will do the trick?

[QUOTE=SamCan;1523209]Can any monger verify that will do the trick?[/QUOTE]Thanks Sam. Fortunately, I am anything but an expert in these matters.

If any of the regulars do have better advice. Probably through experience. It would be appreciated. PM's moe than welcome if posters would rather not go public.

I've tried to persuade him to go to a public hospital in Shanghai but he's reluctant to have it on file. That and the fact his Chinese is crap and he doesn't want the few Chinese friends he has there to be in the know.

If anything its a reminder that even freebies here have their risks and protection is always a smarter choice.

[QUOTE=Cooler Wolf2; 1523265]Thanks Sam. Fortunately, I am anything but an expert in these matters.

If any of the regulars do have better advice. Probably through experience. It would be appreciated. PM's moe than welcome if posters would rather not go public.

I've tried to persuade him to go to a public hospital in Shanghai but he's reluctant to have it on file. That and the fact his Chinese is crap and he doesn't want the few Chinese friends he has there to be in the know.

If anything its a reminder that even freebies here have their risks and protection is always a smarter choice.[/QUOTE]There are many foreign doctors and hospitals in Shanghai, now, IF he actually really does need a prescription.
I just would simply try my luck, here, best in pharmacies, which are a bit in more remote places, and where business is slow.

Lev

[QUOTE=Masslin;1522779]It's called Hong Sheng. Feitian sauna do have this servie, just google feitian sauna, you'll get the address.[/QUOTE]Red rope service!

[QUOTE=Levitian; 1523293]There are many foreign doctors and hospitals in Shanghai, now, IF he actually really does need a prescription.

I just would simply try my luck, here, best in pharmacies, which are a bit in more remote places, and where business is slow.

Lev[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/779587[/url]

Going to the doctor is the best option, but this is what the doctor will prescribe, I think.

I've read through the forum looking for a good sauna. I got a few names, but I would like to ask members if they would give me the names of three of the best high-end saunas, I. E. Cute young girls, good service, and nice atmosphere and surroundings. Please include name and address as well as description. I would much appreciate it. I'm somewhat overwhelmed by my forum reading, so a clear statement of three good ones would be great.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1524060]I've read through the forum looking for a good sauna. I got a few names, but I would like to ask members if they would give me the names of three of the best high-end saunas, I. E. Cute young girls, good service, and nice atmosphere and surroundings. Please include name and address as well as description. I would much appreciate it. I'm somewhat overwhelmed by my forum reading, so a clear statement of three good ones would be great.[/QUOTE]The problem is during the CNY Holiday period, a lot of the girls are gone.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1524060]I've read through the forum looking for a good sauna. I got a few names, but I would like to ask members if they would give me the names of three of the best high-end saunas, I. E. Cute young girls, good service, and nice atmosphere and surroundings. Please include name and address as well as description. I would much appreciate it. I'm somewhat overwhelmed by my forum reading, so a clear statement of three good ones would be great.[/QUOTE]I'm sure that others may respectfully disagree, but my impression was that 3 of the top saunas were Hailang, Heting and Sacrosa.

I've only been to HaiLang Spa, partially because they offered the Red Rope service, and will modestly recommend that you read my two reports, one of which includes a scan of their business card with directions:

[post]1264678[/post] - has scan of business card

[post]1264682[/post]

[B]Note: between January 30 and February 6th or 7th, 2014, these places may be closed or at least have curtailed service with very few girls[/B]

Here is an advice for all who are looking for FS but don't want to pay the sauna fees.

There are plenty of massage shops at Hongsong Road between Hongjing Road and Jinhui Road. In total around 15 to 20. They offer massage and FS (60min / 1 pop) for 400. The rooms are comparable to the normal massage places with separate shower. Okay, to be honest the massage quality is not the best but we are not going there for this. Even at this time of the year still plenty of girls to choose from.

This might be a area to go if you think BBS is too crappy and sauna too expensive.

Does anyone know a similar shop at Xujiahui? Or at least a MP that offers BJ.

Happy New Year!

Using QQ's equivalent of Google's street view, I was checking a strip in Baoshan district to see if one particular shop was still active.

Got my answer, see the attached screen grabs of a lady in a mini-skirt (mid-screen) heading for the BBS (far left). Seems she had just been dropped off by the silver car as the QQ camera man was passing.

Unfortunately the board has a 648 pixel width restriction on pics so I had to shrink them considerably. If your browser doesn't auto-stretch a pic in a new window try the mouse scroll wheel while holding down Ctrl.

Spearsman,

Thank you very much.

Canyon.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1524269]I'm sure that others may respectfully disagree, but my impression was that 3 of the top saunas were Hailang, Heting and Sacrosa.

I've only been to HaiLang Spa, partially because they offered the Red Rope service, and will modestly recommend that you read my two reports, one of which includes a scan of their business card with directions:

[post]1264678[/post]. Has scan of business card.

[post]1264682[/post]

[B]Note: between January 30 and February 6th or 7th. 2014, these places may be closed or at least have curtailed service with very few girls[/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1524269]I'm sure that others may respectfully disagree, but my impression was that 3 of the top saunas were Hailang, Heting and Sacrosa.[/QUOTE]My two fen: I haven't heard anything good about Sacrosa in a long time. Siyuan, which is right next door, is much better. I would also add Bodi to the list as the #1 sauna in Shanghai followed by Siyuan. For third place, hard to say, but Hailang is a good choice. I don't know Heting. Yes, girls are fewer during CNY, but they are still there. Siyuan will have about 20 girls working over the holiday.

Went to 1808 Beijing road 5 days ago, they said their best service was a 258 kuai body rub. Girl number 1 was skilled but greedy, told me I can touch, I ask can she take the clothes off, she says gimmie 300 tip. Keep touching is 200. I say no to both but ask will she finish my HJ if I don't pay extra she says yes. Stopped touching didn't take her clothes off finished and then she says now gimmie a tip. I give 200 because I'm stupid, pay the 258 at the table after, then leave.

Also went to a spot a just a few doors down from The Max Pub 3 days ago, which is a pretty cool bar BTW, on fujian middle road and fuzhong road near the stupid mint place. The menu says blah blah blah cheap this cheap that then something for 250ish something for 350ish then something for 800ish. I ask at the counter if they'll da3 my fei1 ji1 and I forgot her number points happily at the 800 option. I say too expensive, she says ok 300 then, I say yes. Good massage and good HJ. Asked about the clothes and she whispers she's not allowed but I can touch for 200 and clothes come off for 3. I say no, she finishes her job. Didn't ask for a tip and I didn't give her one. Left happy.

Also went to Hailang spa today at like 2pm. They said right this way for your 880 kuai massage, I said how about red rope service, they said ok wait 20 minutes I say ok. 20 later they say only one girl, I think number 007, I say ok, she washes me, clothes off, gives a little BBBJ on the bed and the tons of nipple lick thing then finishes me with her hands and somw oil. I'm thinking cool, two pops from the red rope and FS that is sure to come next and ill be really happy, but no. All done. Another shower, then dries me, dials the phone hands it to me and a no english voice says something something I say hao and they hang up. Bleh. Totally not worth the money even though its my fault for not complaining and demanding and whatnot. The girl spoke no english but enough of the men do that I could have at least voiced my frustration I'm sure, but for me if I have to complain it ruins it anyway so I didn't bother. Plus it's not like the door staff would give me a discount for frowning at them. Plus maybe I don't even want to lay a girl who I got to get grumpy with before she'll give it up. Ok that last parts not true I still do but oh well.

Your kilometers might vary a lot because Chinese new year and because my Chinese is ok.

[QUOTE=Swordfishing; 1524795]Went to 1808 Beijing road 5 days ago, they said their best service was a 258 kuai body rub. Girl number 1 was skilled but greedy, told me I can touch, I ask can she take the clothes off, she says gimmie 300 tip. Keep touching is 200. I say no to both but ask will she finish my HJ if I don't pay extra she says yes. Stopped touching didn't take her clothes off finished and then she says now gimmie a tip. I give 200 because I'm stupid, pay the 258 at the table after, then leave.

I'm groaning now! Can it be that bad, when it once was so good. Will Changping and Shaanxi Lu be next to go downhill like this?
Sam? Any comments

I wouldn't stress it too much mate, it's probably a combination of several things. New year slow business, I admitted it was my first time there which always sets you up for subpar service, and I'm entirely too nice and chatty with them. It's good Chinese practice but nice guys always make the worst mongers. Pretty sure all I had to do was say oi gimmie them nips and haha no tip for you, but I always forget to be a dick while following my dick.

I have many fond memories (7 years now) from that location and the alley way Mp on Wuning Road(at the corner of Wanhangdu Rd in Jingan) with the same owner. I'm always interested in which providers are the most open to roaming and DATY. I even got BBBJ there in November and DATY with two if them. If course prices will go up. One gal told me the difference between the 208 and 258 oily was a better quality oil. What a scam. Still I will return to sample the wares.

BJ.

]I wouldn't stress it too much mate, it's probably a combination of several things. New year slow business, I admitted it was my first time there which always sets you up for subpar service, and I'm entirely too nice and chatty with them. It's good Chinese practice but nice guys always make the worst mongers. Pretty sure all I had to do was say oi gimmie them nips and haha no tip for you, but I always forget to be a dick while following my dick.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1524780]My two fen: I haven't heard anything good about Sacrosa in a long time. Siyuan, which is right next door, is much better. I would also add Bodi to the list as the #1 sauna in Shanghai followed by Siyuan. For third place, hard to say, but Hailang is a good choice. I don't know Heting. Yes, girls are fewer during CNY, but they are still there. Siyuan will have about 20 girls working over the holiday.[/QUOTE]I would like to second your recommendations with some reservations.

I too have not heard anything good about Sacrosa for awhile.

I've only been there once, and never returned.

But I am a frequent customer of SiYuan which is near by.

Bodi may be the top sauna in Pudong, but I can't say that for all of Shanghai.

I have not been to Hailang either, so I can't comment on that.

But for a fact I know that Southern (Nanfang) and New Jade Screen (Xinyunping) have a lot more to offer in terms of girl selection.

I hope the waiting line is a lot lesser during the CNY period.

I have not been to Heting for at least two years so this is based on old memory and a lot may be changed.

Heting no doubt offers great service.

Yet for me and some of my friends, there are four deal killers.

1. No nuru massage / wet area, dry bed service only.

2. Cash only. If you don't have cash you need to run across the street to find an ATM.

3. Small pool of girls to choose from.

4. No extra services like foot massage or ear cleaning in the lounge.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1524922][

I'm groaning now! Can it be that bad, when it once was so good. Will Changping and Shaanxi Lu be next to go downhill like this?

Sam? Any comments[/QUOTE]An admitted new guy. Go get a good HJ. Pay a lot if you have to. So the little guy can think more straight. From then on push for more, , I had a girl want 500 for a HJ. I had had so many girls by then, I almost didn't care if I got off. She needed the money more than I needed the pop. I started to pull the blue shorts up. She quickly came down to 150 for roaming and a HJ. I probably could have kissed her nips for that but I was too tired.

Can someone report on Xikang road? The MP on the right when heading up? I never made it inside but it is on my list for next time.

Sam Can

[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1524922]Will Changping and Shaanxi Lu be next to go downhill like this?

Sam? Any comments[/QUOTE]Jumping in here. In my opinion it already has gone downhill. Used to have a membership card there (Massage + BBBJ for 258 RMB) but after the management changed they wouldn't accept it any longer and quoted the full price (around 350 now). Also the service quality wasn't too impressive. Or maybe I was just unlucky.

Any recent recommendations on girls for that place?

[QUOTE=Carage; 1525064], Yet for me and some of my friends, there are four deal killers.

1. No nuru massage / wet area, dry bed service only.

2. Cash only. If you don't have cash you need to run across the street to find an ATM.

3. Small pool of girls to choose from.

4. No extra services like foot massage or ear cleaning in the lounge.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised to read that "cash only" is a deal killer for you. In my 30+ years of mongering, I've always paid cash, every time. IMHO it's just not worth the risks to use a credit card, both for the possibility of misuse / identity theft and for the paper trail that is created.

Plus it helps keep this hobby under control. If I did charge freely, I might be happier but more broke than I already am.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1525327]I'm surprised to read that "cash only" is a deal killer for you. In my 30+ years of mongering, I've always paid cash, every time. IMHO it's just not worth the risks to use a credit card, both for the possibility of misuse / identity theft and for the paper trail that is created.

Plus it helps keep this hobby under control. If I did charge freely, I might be happier but more broke than I already am.[/QUOTE]I am just not accustomed to having a huge wad of cash in my wallet.

[QUOTE=Lennylein; 1525117]Jumping in here. In my opinion it already has gone downhill. Used to have a membership card there (Massage + BBBJ for 258 RMB) but after the management changed they wouldn't accept it any longer and quoted the full price (around 350 now). Also the service quality wasn't too impressive. Or maybe I was just unlucky.

Any recent recommendations on girls for that place?[/QUOTE]We mean the place on the corner not the one on Chanping Lu. (buddha place). The one across the street on the corner didn't have a membership card did it? I never got asked for one.

Anyway, I did make girl recommendations back in September. Seek and you shall find.

There is usually a number on the storefront. How about posting that number?
If the post is current the provider's worker number is helpful. Otherwise its TOFT. Sending a PM helps to avoid confusion and all the back and forth Q&A on the threads.

We mean the place on the corner not the one on Chanping Lu. (buddha place). The one across the street on the corner didn't have a membership card did it? I never got asked for one.

Anyway, I did make girl recommendations back in September. Seek and you shall find.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MartinDutchman; 1525634]Hi guys,

The above mentioned website seems to have dissapeared. It was really useful.

Anyone knows what happened?[/QUOTE]What happened is that your message is commercial spam by a first-time poster. I've already contacted Jackson (the site administrator) and your message should be either deleted or transferred to the commercial ads section shortly.

Shame on you! The website has not disappeared, you are just trying to get guys to go check it out.

Plus you mis-spelled the word "disappeared" LOL.

Please stay off this website. We don't need people like you cluttering up our site.

What? Really? As far as I know, the web site referred to is run by a guy who posts on this board frequently,"Shanghai Nightlife", and he's actually been quite informative. He also organizes KTV parties and publicizes them on this board. And I checked, the web site does seem to be down.

Search the forums for "Shanghai Nightlife" before you lash out at people!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1525814]What happened is that your message is commercial spam by a first-time poster. I've already contacted Jackson (the site administrator) and your message should be either deleted or transferred to the commercial ads section shortly.

Shame on you! The website has not disappeared, you are just trying to get guys to go check it out.

Plus you mis-spelled the word "disappeared" LOL.

Please stay off this website. We don't need people like you cluttering up our site.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. I only ever bring the right amount of cash. I always leave all my ATM cards, credit cards, ID cards, etc, at home. It also helps you to not over tip.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1525327]I'm surprised to read that "cash only" is a deal killer for you. In my 30+ years of mongering, I've always paid cash, every time. IMHO it's just not worth the risks to use a credit card, both for the possibility of misuse / identity theft and for the paper trail that is created.

Plus it helps keep this hobby under control. If I did charge freely, I might be happier but more broke than I already am.[/QUOTE]

[quote=martindutchman; 1525634]hi guys,

the above mentioned website seems to have dissapeared. it was really useful.

anyone knows what happened?[/quote]hi martin, we had some problems with our hosting providers. because of a missunderstanding our provider moved the page to a chinese server to "speed it up". but as you know, content like that should not be hosted in china, so we needed to move it back and have been "out of web" for some days. now all back to normal and i hope we can go on to provide usefull information.

enjoy shanghai,

steven

Hi guys,

I'm a first poster, because until now I was just reading here. The reason why I registered is because I'm leaving for Shanghai and Beijing tomorrow with a friend. But I just can't figure out where to go to get some pussy. I'm a little rusty as I just came out of a long term relationship so sorry if my questions seem stupid :P.

I was in Shanghai in 2012 and had a great time. Actually I am not sure if I used this page then as well to find some good places, but I did find them somehow.

The problem now is that I really want to show my friend how great this city is in terms of sex, but I just don't have enough time to re-read all those pages. I hope for your support.

Last time, I was lead to some dark business building near Pudong, where I had to drive with the elevator to the 21st floor. There I was welcomed by a security guy who escorted me to a counter. I could choose out of a menu and chose something around 800 RMB. Next was a change of clothes / shower and then I had to sit for a minute in a small room with a TV before the security guy came to get me. I was escorted to a group of around ten girls from which I could pick. The service was great with all kinds of specials and she let me come twice in about 90 minutes. (I don't really know what kind of place that was, it was neither a sauna or massage place, as I got neither of both. Ok maybe a massage place, as I remember she gave me a little massage after the first pop.)

I search a place like that with good looking girls. The price would be ok but as I read here are usually 90 minutes more around 300 RMB?

I still don't get the picture with the BBS and KTVs too. I saw them in Vietnam too, but I never figured out how that's supposed to work. You just walk in and then? Sorry for the stupid questions. I usually got girls in Bars until now. Except for a few times with other foreigners who showed me to such locations.

Could you eventually recommend me some places? I know, I know. Just read. But I just don't know where to start. There are posts from 8 years or so in here and most of the places probably don't exist anymore. And like I said, I obviously paid too much last time. I read here that 1000 RMB is usually for the whole night or even two girls. So if I knew the places and pricing plus that there are gorgeous girls. That would be great.

Thanks for your help guys!

[QUOTE=CHRick; 1526303]Hi guys,

I'm a first poster, because until now I was just reading here.

The problem now is that I really want to show my friend how great this city is in terms of sex, but I just don't have enough time to re-read all those pages. I hope for your support.

Could you eventually recommend me some places? I know, I know. Just read. But I just don't know where to start. There are posts from 8 years or so in here and most of the places probably don't exist anymore. And like I said, I obviously paid too much last time. I read here that 1000 RMB is usually for the whole night or even two girls. So if I knew the places and pricing plus that there are gorgeous girls. That would be great.

Thanks for your help guys![/QUOTE]Actually you only have to read the next 25 posts (approx. 1 1/2 pages) to gain lots of useful info about a wide range of places to visit!

[QUOTE=CHRick; 1526303]Hi guys,

I'm a first poster, because until now I was just reading here.

Could you eventually recommend me some places?

Thanks for your help guys![/QUOTE]First of all: You will find offers or girls for service all over the city (for example on the street they will approach to you and offer some "special service") , but don`t go in any place you did not find here in the forum or on our page.

[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com[/url]

Because otherwise also could be a rip off. There are "black shops" for rip off foreigners. The "official" ones I talk about here are very secure and no need to worry, but black shops can cost you up to 10 000 RMB and will bring you a lot of trouble, so avoid! You can read about that here in the forum or check out our warning collection here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/chef-s-suggestion/basic-tips/[/url]

Check also the comments on that page, so you will get a feeling what can happen, if you think you are able to ignore this recommendation. So NEVER EVER follow someone on the street!

I know it is hard to find the right informations, when you are totally new to a city and it could need long time to pick out the most valuable informations here, so just for newbies here a short introduction to the Shanghai Girls Fun Scene (sort by rates) :

The cheapest way to get full service in Shanghai is to visit a BARBERSHOP. Here you will have 5 to 10 girls who provide blowjob and normal Sex for around 200 RMB for 10 to 15 minutes. It`s not really a great deal, because first they will be in rush, second you will have lousy hygienic conditions, third they will overcharge foreigner (ask for 400 most time) and without Chinese hard to negotiate and get what you want.

For around 300 RMB you can get a happy ending massage (most time only with handjob, sometimes also with blowjob) in a MASSAGE PARLOR. There are plenty around everywhere. If a massage has sexy dressed girls and japanese signs on it, you can nearly be sure they serve more than only a legit massage. This places have better hygienic conditioins (at least shower in the room, plastic cover for the bed and so on). But if you don`t know the right places, you have a risk to be overcharged again. From foreigners they will ask most time for a tip for the happy ending, and some girls will ask for 300 or 500 for that, so overall more expensive than a sauna and you get much less service. But if you know the right places, you can get a good massage with happy ending for a reasonable price. You can check the last posts here, some guys talked about a place like that. I know a shop where you pay 289 for that and the girls are STRICLY forbidden to ask for tip and they definitly will not. Send a private message, if you like to get the location.

You need to spend around 400 to 450 RMB for a FULL SEX PARLOR. This places are hard to find, because they don`t look very different to the barbershops, but here you can get nearly the same service than in a sauna (massage, blowjob, covered sex) and the girls are most time very young and sexy. You book for one shot (maximum 45 to 60 minutes) , in the room you also will find shower and so on, the girls are not professional trained like in a sauna, but on the other side a much higher chance to get a girlfriend experience. The problem will be, that you need at least someone who can speak a little Chinese, because they also offer different services. If you can pronounce "zuo ai" (make love) , than they should know what you want.

There are QQ PROSTITUTES around the city. QQ is a messenger on computer or phone where they will connect you and offer their service in a chat. You have to go to their rooms, than you can get full sex service session for around 400 RMB short time and 800 RMB long time, but without Chinese skills no chance and most of them will rip off foreigners by overcharging (and also most of the pictures you will get for selection will be fakes).

The best deal for foreigner newbies will be a SEX SAUNA. Here you spend around 600 to 900 RMB for a session of 60 to 90 minutes including everything. Sometimes Nuru massage (the girl will rub over your body with nuru or soap gelly) , sometimes cosplay (with different costumes like student, nurse a. S. O.) or strip dance, most time fire and ice massage (where the girl will lick and suck over your whole body with hot or cold water in her mouth) , bareback blowjob and covered sex. Most sauna places will also offer a second shot in the time, for additional 300 to 500 RMB you can also book a second girl for your session. By the way, that was the kind of place you have been alread. In the sauna they only offer one service, so everyone know exactly what you are looking for, so just go in and they will guide you step by step to shower, girls selection and session room, so no need for any Chinese skills.

You can find a sauna map here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/girls-sauna-shanghai/shanghai-sauna-map/[/url]

Also easy for foreigners are the PICKUP BARS. There are two famous ones, the Manhattan Club and Judy`s. Both are walking distance to Jing An Temple, both offer a huge selection of vietnamese girls who will go home with you for around 800 to 1000 for short time or 1500 to 2000 for overnight (prices rised up a lot last 2 years!). Both clubs are easy to handle. Just go inside, order a drink (for a normal price) , look around, start eye contact with a girl, than she will come over. You can flirt with her now and some minutes later she will tell you she want to go home with you, than you can clear service and price, that`s it. Only be carefull not to make a overnight deal with 100% advanced payment, because than you have a good chance that she will find an excuse to leave after the first pop (but only to go back to the club and find another stupid guy like you for the rest of the night).

You can find a list of the best pickup bars here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/pickup-bars/[/url]

A little bit more expensive are the ESCORT GIRLS. You can find outcall agencies and pages with independent escort girls all over the web, but be carefull, because first most of them in Shanghai work with faked pictures and profiles (means: it doesn`t matter which girl you select, they will send you the only old ugly one they have). Second they work with a very strong "upselling strategy". When you contact them, they will offer you a 90 minutes massage for 800 RMB, than if you want her to get naked, they will ask for another 500, for blow another 500 and so on. Finally the session (with a not so attractive girl) will be 3000 RMB or more. We try to find the very less reliable ones who agree to work with real pictures and second agree to publish her final price, but in the whole city we did not find more than 20 till now (you can check out some girls here:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/real-escort-girls/[/url]

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KTV GIRLS: A KTV is a karaoke club, where they will provide girls who sit with you, sing with you (in a really naughty club there will be less or no singing) and also go home with you after the party. That`s the typical Chinese way to pick up girls, so you will find very less Chinese customers in a pickup bar. The ktvs have a great selection of girls (some up to 200 or 300 young sexy girls) , some will offer "special games" in the club up to a blowjob, some only a strip or even only cuddling and kissing. Most of the clubs need Chinese language skills to communicate, some also will be able to arrange a western party. The price range in a Shanghai KTV Club is wide, some will do a party for 3000, other will charge 10 000 for the same party, depends on the "level" of the club. For a party you need to be at least 3 guys, as more, as better (because cost for mamasan, room and so on can be shared, and also, who want`s to drink alone with his girl in a room?). For a party you have to pay the room and stuff fee (for example Mamasan, DJ, Waiter). This will be 1500 to 5000 RMB (depends how many guys you are and the level of the club) , than a sitting fee for the girl for the party (should be around 300 to 600 RMB, sometimes also 1000 RMB for a sexy girl in a high end club). Addtional you have to pay the drinks, this will be 35 for a beer up to 100 for a beer, also depends on the club. The "takeout fee" for the girl will be around 1000 to 2000 for short time. 1500 to 3000 for overnight (but high level girls in some clubs can also charge double or more). If you like to check that out, I recommend this medium priced club:

[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/ktv-nightclub-shanghai/cosmo-ktv-1/[/url]

They have a mamasan who can speak good english and also can host your party, so no Chinese skills necessary. And they offer a lot of naughty games there.

I will attach some "location cards" here, so it should be easy for you and your friends to find the places. Just put them on your mobile phone and show them to the taxi driver.

Enjoy Shanghai,

Steven