Jakarta

[QUOTE=Medanboy; 1388323]I found indocupid quite interesting. I have no experience with the DIA (datinasia?). On indocupid you see all pictures. Only catch is you have to pay for a subscription so you can read and send messages to non-subscribers, but whats 300. 000 idr for a month if you have a good turn-over afterwards. Hanging around one evening gets ya few good lookers, one week and you have enough collected to stay in contact on yahoomail messenger. Takes only a few chats (usually just 1) to get their numbers and a meet and when you meet they already have the impression they really know you. Works for me.

As I told before, realize some have already an indonesian boyfriend or men who does not give them enough security or adventure. Many others just want to meet a bule and usually already have once or twice. Its how they ended up there, they want more. I haven't encountered a single one who wanted direct money. But I tend to avoid some obvious older chicks.[/QUOTE]Hi All,

Actually, I have been using these sites for a while and reported a few times.

Agree with Medanboy. The chatting thing helps breaking the ice. With some it will go as far as showing body, play etc on cam. Most of the times at their request in fact. Which is hard to believe but true. Then of course the first meet really goes well and fast. I had one girl two months ago who joined me straight in my hotel upon my arrival in Jakarta and she was blowing me within the next 5 minutes. The cam play had of course helped that. She then stayed the full two daysin my room and we hardly found anything else to do than eat fuck and sleep. Love to re-read her many sms messages on the way to the hotel that sounded like "I am late please wait" "I am close, am excited to meet you" "I am really close, am nervous please treat me well" etc.

Last three encounters in Jakarta were through Asiandating, which has I thinkthe same girls as indocupid (it's the same group, and sometimes girl tell me "in your profile in indocupid.". Your membership in AD gives you access not only to Indonesian women but all over the world. Which comes handy when you travel around like I do.

Dateinasia is not bad, but has some disavantages :

- one pic per profile

- does not allow copy paste. Which when you are in the recruitment phase is quite a bummer. I always send a nice introduction mail that starts Hi xx, I send you interest and this mail cause your profile struck me. I am 49 YO, please if you find am too old just say so. Etc. So using DIA means maintaining 3 templates.

Lots of women do not reply. Lots do. Lots will then not reply to your second mail. Maybe 50/50, then 50/50 again. So you are landing at the end of the first phase with 25% of initial contacts with whom you start a chatting or BBS or email exchange.

Once they agree to meet, you normally know where it will go. I have claimed so many times "like you, I don't sleep on the first date" and ended up with her in my room.

I would most likely not meet any of them anymore if I have not seen them on cam previously. Experiences showed me that pics can be sometimes misleading, doctored or not. In that case, I always make it a point to be decent enough to spend time on a bit of food or drinks and then go by myself. Of course, in that case, a mandatory excursion to BATS or BLOK M venues follows to compensate the disappointment.

Like medanboy I met some who were clearly there for the action / adventure out of a bored life with local or expat bf or indo hubby who anyway goes to massage ++ or other sort of venues.

Or the long distance BF who does not come often enough. Or they don't trust him enough.

Engaged or living in partners or married women are the ones with less hassle and most of the time most enthusiastic since both of us know why we are there. And most of the times they don't sleep over. Which is not bad also.

One of my regulars has a european BF who comes maybe 3 times a year. One week max. 3 times 5 days of intense sex per year is not enough for her. What more if one of these stays happens during her period. We meete on a regular basis, once out of two times I come to Jakarta. So in average once every two months. We meet for one night. Not more. She would feel bad she told me. OK boss you rule. She knows I have others, knows how we met and knows am still active on the site. Does not hassle and is the wettest thing I ever met.

I actually had her once in an unpredictible scenario. Supposedly we were not supposed to meet in Jakarta since said BF was supposed to arrive same day as me. I still greeted her on yahoo out of politeness and sincerely wanted to wish her a nice time on their vacation in the islands. Turned out she said boyfriend got stuck in sg with a cancelled flight and would only arrive next day. I found it hard to believe (a one way ticket costs 50US to 100 US anyway so he could switch flight.). But I did not even have time to say how sorry I was for her, she was already asking if I was ok to meet for drinks. Drinks turned out in one of our most enthusiastic experiences. And a kiss goodbye, enjoy your vacation "wink" at 130 AM when sending her home.

Money is seldom asked. I always pay for drinks, sometimes for dinner and eventually offer for the taxi back home. When they do not have their own car.

Hope this helps. Enjoy.

FT

Hi,

I'm a Indian with no Indonesian language skills. I had first come in January 2013. A very good Indo friend took me to Club 36, M Star and Fortune last time.

When I was here, he was outstation. So I was left to fend for myself.

I decided to go to M Star in mangga dua as I remembered it better.

Well took all the courage and got blue bird and reached Mangga Dua. It was a long journey from Manhattan hotel in casablanca to this place.

I remembered the landmark WTC mangga dua.

Neways reached there and it was empty on a Sunday.

But lots girls around.

I spoke to the papasan and told him wanted a big girl and got it.

Will say she was good earneest. Longest cowgirl ever with me.

Very good service and value for money.

Hi Mongers.

Does anyone have any information on the following:

A hotel in the 300k ($30) per night range ideally within walking distance of Stadium nightclub.

The cost of girls in Stadium, and whether or not they can be taken back to your hotel, and also costs of room hire, entry fee and drinks in stadium.

Whether or not girls do anal and how much it costs.

Any other places in the stadium area that you'd recommend for girls dancing nude, or similar places with many floors of bars, dancers, live sport, spa, massage, but which are not aimed at rich businessmen (I have money, but not that much. I resent paying what it would cost in a strip club back in the states)

Any / all answers much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Sausage King;1388915]The availability, cost and risk involved (both in terms of police and the less serious risk of being ripped off) of acquiring crystal meth from Stadium, and maybe taking it back to my hotel.[/QUOTE]Not being moralistic here, but if you need to ask the question on a public forum like this, then the risk level for you is probably extremely high, particularly if you don't have local friends. If you get caught, you will either have to pay a bribe amounting to thousands or tens of thousands of dollars or you will end up in prison for several years.

There are some seedy looking hotels pretty close to stadium that may well cost little more than $30, but is pretty close to the bottom of the barrel in Jakarta. For that price, you could properly get a simple air-conditioned room in the backpacker zone in Jalan Jaksa. Oddly enough, the ratbag hotels like that are usually the ones most likely to kick up a fuss about you taking a girl back.

There's my hotel infront of LTC / Suncity and they offer good deal on hotel.

There also tune hotel and hotel 88 around mangga besar and pasa baru.

None of them is walking distance to stadium though.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe; 1388945]There's my hotel infront of LTC / Suncity and they offer good deal on hotel.

There also tune hotel and hotel 88 around mangga besar and pasa baru.

None of them is walking distance to stadium though.[/QUOTE]Depends on your physical condition, of course, but I had no problem walking from My Hotel to Stadium:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1306474&viewfull=1#post1306474[/url]

[QUOTE=Shuga; 1389089]Depends on your physical condition, of course, but I had no problem walking from My Hotel to Stadium:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1306474&viewfull=1#post1306474[/url][/QUOTE]True, but the road wasn't really comfortable for walking there.

Also getting there is the easy part, going back at night after drinking would be a challenge

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1388936]Not being moralistic here, but if you need to ask the question on a public forum like this, then the risk level for you is probably extremely high, particularly if you don't have local friends. If you get caught, you will either have to pay a bribe amounting to thousands or tens of thousands of dollars or you will end up in prison for several years.[/QUOTE]I appreciate what you're saying, and I don't want to take any insanely stupid risks, which that very well may be, but I thought I would just see if anyone on here had heard of police targeting people there. I live in Indonesia and have done for ages, so I'm not totally uninformed about the place, and all things considered I won't take the stuff out of the venue, but I am very tempted to buy it there and take it there, because frankly, for those of you who have never done meth, it is the biggest aphrodisiac imaginable. DOn't get me wrong, it is dangerously addictive, and I have only ever done it twice for that reason. It is so good though. I leave it a year between taking another dose. I'm a pretty stable guy, I do take calculated risks if there's an awesome pay off, but if anyone has an addictive personality I would strongly recommend leaving well alone. Stadium has a reputation for being above the law, but that doesn't mean that every few years or so a politician won't try and crack down on it, before the bribes start rolling again. What I'd ideally like, is to get my hands on said stuff and dash back to the hotel with it if it seems I can get away with it but the reality is I'll just do it in the venue.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe; 1388945]There's my hotel infront of LTC / Suncity and they offer good deal on hotel.

There also tune hotel and hotel 88 around mangga besar and pasa baru.

None of them is walking distance to stadium though.[/QUOTE]Cheers dude. Also, I just found this one, apparently right around the corner from Stadium, anyone been here? Am I allowed to post links to hotels? Well if not, it's called the Antoni Hotel, google it. Seems cheap and the pictures look nice.

Where is the best place in the hayam wuruk mangga besar area for anal and or threesomes and how much does it cost?

[QUOTE=Sausage King;1389343]Where is the best place in the hayam wuruk mangga besar area for anal and or threesomes and how much does it cost?[/QUOTE]Travel and classic, you can find both option there

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1389452]Travel and classic, you can find both option there[/QUOTE]Thanks, I just found a bit of info about classic but can't find anything up to date. Have you been there recently? Is there still an insane offer of 8 girls for 600k Rupiah? Do you know how much a typical threesome is, and how much extra for anal?

[QUOTE=Sausage King;1389582]Do you know how much a typical threesome is, and how much extra for anal?[/QUOTE]As an Arab one thing I really miss from back home is anal.

In my experience in general it's nearly impossible to get anal in Jakarta regardless of how much the girl likes you or you can willing to tip.

The best place for anal nonetheless is the Blok M bars. But you have to ask upfront. The more desperate ones will accept although in general the cewek in Blok M bars are much lower quality than what you find in Kota area.

chose to check out oasis spa after a bit of online research this morning. took me 30 mins to get there from menteng in the 3pm weekend traffic. the taxi driver didn't know the place, but i found it once we got close to the jl mangga besar raya and rail bridge intersection. it always pays to study google maps beforehand.

entered into a small lobby with a receptionist behind a small desk, a polite doorman, a lift and a fire exit. the bespectacled chinese looking middle aged receptionist showed me a laminated menu from which i selected the body 2 body massage deluxe room for 415 k. paid in cash and was given a numbered wrist band and a coupon for free pop corn. nice touch except that i wasn't here to watch a movie!

with directions from the doorman and after waiting forever for the lift i entered the second floor. the lift door opened straight into the area where all the girls were seated on couches. i felt like the goat in life of pi when the door to the bengal tiger's cage was opened. in my case, the tiger was replaced by about 25 lionesses. i had to escape quickly and told the hot mamasan that i wanted a drink first. sat at the bar on the right while the wire barman poured me the warmest beer ever and proceeded to dunk in ice. the ice he scooped with his bare hands from as box on the floor. after a bit the mama explained the 3 categories of women there. freelancers, massage girls and body to body massage girls. my choice was limited to 8, and on recommendation i chose keni, a light skinned, pleasant looking milf of about 35 years. from her body language and smile i knew i was in good hands.

mind you, there was almost no verbal communication. none of the girls were engris capable, including the senior mama. only the hot junior mama and wiry barman had some bahasa engris.

after waiting forever in front of the lift, finally we made it to a dingy room on the 6th floor. dimly lit it was with a king size water bed, draped with a damp musty sheet. 4 blue musty towels were placed on it. a glass fronted shower ran the full length of the room across the foot of the bed. keni stripped down and i did the same. she kept talking, joking and laughing, but i couldn't understand a word. she spread a towel on the bed, placed 2 in the shower, led me in and directed me to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the corner. yes! no proper toilet, fyi. well i sign languaged keni that i don't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], so she proceeded to wash my dick with surgical precision. bagus!

followed instructions and lay on the towel on the bed. keni showered, came over to the bed with a mug of soapy water and proceeded to give me a massage. pretty good one that. good use of her elbows and knees on my legs and spine. this was followed by a b2b rub. nice despite her soft body. flip over and repeat. i was in love with keni, but nervous at the same time that my cock would slip into her pussy.

massage done in 30 mins, shower, and back to bed for a body lick, nipple nibble, ball suck, shaft lick, condom on, and great blowjob. she pointed to her pussy, i nodded yeah and soon she was rinding me like a pro (well, she is one). switch to missionary, passionate pumping for a few minutes and finish. had a short lie down while she brushed and showered. and later she soaped me up in the shower. dried myself, dressed up, cuddle and a kiss, a 100k tip, keni you are the bestest and back down to reception. bespectacled receptionist took 45k from me for the beer. a cute young receptionist who had now joined the shift offered me some cake which she was having. no thanks love, i need a smoke now, not cake. walked out, found a bluebird dropping off another punter and soon i was on my way back in the evening rain. i smelt like a wet dog from those towels.

went back to my hotel, stripped off all my clothes, doused them in a liter of gasoline and lit a match. and then i took a bath in 20% dettol solution. well, just kidding.

well if you are wondering about the fourth towel, well, that was the one we had sex on.

Anyone know anywhere that you can do a naughty deep throat, more a mouth fuck than a blowjob?

[QUOTE=Sausage King;1389582]Thanks, I just found a bit of info about classic but can't find anything up to date. Have you been there recently? Is there still an insane offer of 8 girls for 600k Rupiah? Do you know how much a typical threesome is, and how much extra for anal?[/QUOTE]Not any more. Threesome about 400+ k.

For Anal you should ask the mamasan for girl that willing to do it

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1389904]As an Arab one thing I really miss from back home is anal.

In my experience in general it's nearly impossible to get anal in Jakarta regardless of how much the girl likes you or you can willing to tip.

The best place for anal nonetheless is the Blok M bars. But you have to ask upfront. The more desperate ones will accept although in general the cewek in Blok M bars are much lower quality than what you find in Kota area.[/QUOTE]In some of my old postings, I have mentioned quite a few times that Ibu Linda Panti Pijat in Hayam Wuruk, is the place for Anal. It is located one street behind Berlian towards Stadium. Almost all the girls there that I have encountered offered Anal when asked for.

Also some of the older girls in Maribaya offer anal when asked for. In fact, one of the old girls whom I keep taking whenever I feel like aving anal is Yeni in the evening shift. I have been seeing her since 2002 when she was around 18 or 19.

Am sure there could be a few more places for anal. Wish JAD was around. He would just rattle out the names of places instantly.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Sausage King;1389343]Where is the best place in the hayam wuruk mangga besar area for anal and or threesomes and how much does it cost?[/QUOTE]Ibu Linda Panti Pijat in Hayam Wuruk. It's a street behind Berlian towards Stadium Disco. Almost all the girls whom I have picked there have offered anal when I have asked for it. Try it out. You could be lucky.

Got in to BATS at about 11pm Friday night. Little has changed here. Expat crowd, average to good looking hookers, most dressed to the 7s and 8s, making them look more expensive than they really are. They know they can get crazy money from the sexpats, most of whom work in oil and gas.

Took a silver bird to blok m (50k). Women in D's place reminded me of my hotel WiFi password. Antique. My bar had some doable lookers. Almost took one home, before backing out and deciding to check the field once more. Headed back to Shangri La. BATS.

An Indian looking Borneo girl was chatting me up when a drunk old fart son of a #$% knocked my table sending the beer down on to my shirt. This was on hindsight a turning point, as it attracted sympathy from a few stunners who started chatting me up whilst I dabbed dry my shirt.

Noteable among the sympathizers was a 25 year old 5 foot stunner in a red designer dress and a nose job. Going for the Indian / arab look, she was. Very good English, definitely a university grad. Negotiated 1 million and off we went.

Surprise surprise, on the way out she directed me to the basement and into her fully kitted out spanking new car! Jakarta never ceases to amaze!

Back at the hotel she dropped her designer French dress, and so did my jaw. The most amazing small perfectly proportioned body I have ever laid my eyes (and paws) on. Almost doll like. Had a rocking good time in bed, couch, chair, and on the kitchen counter! Everything on offer except anal. And she was tight, TIGHT! The most amazing sensation of feeling like you are bare backing when in reality, you have a condom on. Just a couple of slow thrusts were enough to take me close to the point of no return. More than once I directed my thoughts to the ugly ass hookers of D's Place, just to stop from cumming.

A more relaxed second round followed a nice conversation and a cuddle. I got her number and I think I might gladly give her that one mill every night (for her college fund, or car payments or whatever.

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1389904]As an Arab one thing I really miss from back home is anal.

In my experience in general it's nearly impossible to get anal in Jakarta regardless of how much the girl likes you or you can willing to tip.

The best place for anal nonetheless is the Blok M bars. But you have to ask upfront. The more desperate ones will accept although in general the cewek in Blok M bars are much lower quality than what you find in Kota area.[/QUOTE]I've heard that DeLeila, Gatot Subroto is the place to go for anal. Slightly thicker mama's suitable for middle eastern tastes.

[QUOTE=Sausage King;1389343]Where is the best place in the hayam wuruk mangga besar area for anal and or threesomes and how much does it cost?[/QUOTE]I did anal only with non pro who are keeping their virginity until marriage. But I know some girls in Deleila the arabic disco do anal, girls in Kota will definitely refuse but might accept for high tip.

[QUOTE=KiJang; 1390243]More than once I directed my thoughts to the ugly ass hookers of D's Place, just to stop from cumming.

A more relaxed second round followed a nice conversation and a cuddle. I got her number and I think I might gladly give her that one mill every night (for her college fund, or car payments or whatever.[/QUOTE]Haha. Good idea thinking of those D's Place chicks to slow down the process. I will say though that there are a couple of good looking girls at D's at times.

I seriously doubt she makes any car payments. She obviously has a "sponsor". Either an expat husband who was out of town or a guy who bought her that car and is taking care of her. My bet is that if you posted her picture here, some of us would know her.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1390660]Haha. Good idea thinking of those D's Place chicks to slow down the process. I will say though that there are a couple of good looking girls at D's at times.

I seriously doubt she makes any car payments. She obviously has a "sponsor". Either an expat husband who was out of town or a guy who bought her that car and is taking care of her. My bet is that if you posted her picture here, some of us would know her.[/QUOTE]I agree. She most probably has an expat sending her money. I knew a stunner with a nice petite body and fair skin who used to hang out at the VIP room over at D's Place who may have had the most stuck-up attitude I have seen in a hooker for a long long time. Her thinking is, just because she has a car and a few credit cards, means she can charge 1,000,000 for a blowjob in the corner instead of every other girl in the room who would do it for 300,000. LOL.

Thanks for the info below, will give you all new anal info in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1390718]I agree. She most probably has an expat sending her money. I knew a stunner with a nice petite body and fair skin who used to hang out at the VIP room over at D's Place who may have had the most stuck-up attitude I have seen in a hooker for a long long time. Her thinking is, just because she has a car and a few credit cards, means she can charge 1,000,000 for a blowjob in the corner instead of every other girl in the room who would do it for 300,000. LOL.[/QUOTE]A sponsor, most probably yes. Going by the look she's aiming for, nose job, her blackberry messenger I D and status messages, I would reckon its an Arab or Indian.

No photos, sorry.

The car reminds me of my conquests in east Africa. Nice bungalow and car, and dog, and these girls play when sponsor / husbands at work in Germany or Belgium. All they want in exchange is a good night out with somebody their age and a roll in the sack. A side effect of sucking on old hairy ball sacks for 3 months a year. No offense to older mongers. I hope I can have a 20 something when I'm 50.

[QUOTE=KiJang; 1390243]Got in to BATS at about 11pm Friday night. Little has changed here. Expat crowd, average to good looking hookers, most dressed to the 7s and 8s, making them look more expensive than they really are. They know they can get crazy money from the sexpats, most of whom work in oil and gas.

Took a silver bird to blok m (50k). Women in D's place reminded me of my hotel WiFi password. Antique. My bar had some doable lookers. Almost took one home, before backing out and deciding to check the field once more. Headed back to Shangri La. BATS.

An Indian looking Borneo girl was chatting me up when a drunk old fart son of a #$% knocked my table sending the beer down on to my shirt. This was on hindsight a turning point, as it attracted sympathy from a few stunners who started chatting me up whilst I dabbed dry my shirt.

Noteable among the sympathizers was a 25 year old 5 foot stunner in a red designer dress and a nose job. Going for the Indian / arab look, she was. Very good English, definitely a university grad. Negotiated 1 million and off we went.

Surprise surprise, on the way out she directed me to the basement and into her fully kitted out spanking new car! Jakarta never ceases to amaze!

Back at the hotel she dropped her designer French dress, and so did my jaw. The most amazing small perfectly proportioned body I have ever laid my eyes (and paws) on. Almost doll like. Had a rocking good time in bed, couch, chair, and on the kitchen counter! Everything on offer except anal. And she was tight, TIGHT! The most amazing sensation of feeling like you are bare backing when in reality, you have a condom on. Just a couple of slow thrusts were enough to take me close to the point of no return. More than once I directed my thoughts to the ugly ass hookers of D's Place, just to stop from cumming.

A more relaxed second round followed a nice conversation and a cuddle. I got her number and I think I might gladly give her that one mill every night (for her college fund, or car payments or whatever.[/QUOTE]Your pm is off.

I was also in BATS Friday night. Easy to spot me. I do stand out.

The girl in red. Was that from BATS? I think I know her. Great time!

I will be in Jakarta during the mentioned times. I will be staying by the by JIEXPO, Kemayoran. Any suggestions for close by attractions. Or location of BATS or some other fun places. Thanks

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1391812]I will be in Jakarta during the mentioned times. I will be staying by the by JIEXPO, Kemayoran. Any suggestions for close by attractions. Or location of BATS or some other fun places. Thanks[/QUOTE]Far from bats, but close to alexis, mstar and classic

HI,

I will be staying for 7 days at harris fx Sudirman Jakarta.

Any advise for close by actions.

I have RTFF, no mention of the hotel at all.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1390893]Your pm is off.

I was also in BATS Friday night. Easy to spot me. I do stand out.

The girl in red. Was that from BATS? I think I know her. Great time![/QUOTE]Yes she was from BATS. And, yes my PM is not subscribed for.

I went to Malioboro the next day afternoon. Had a very good session with a local (350K) tall girl. Her name escapes me. She showed me pics of her family, sister etc back in her hometown. Said she was a trained hair stylist and would like to have her own shop someday. Goodluck. Total damage was approx 550K.

The same old Chinese and Uzbeki girls were there from last October. The mama / papasans were same too. The local lasses are handled by a short suited papasan who gives a pretty accurate description of his girls and will sit and talk to you about what you want and what he can offer. Highly recommended. Better experience than the 2 mill I spent last year on the (not so bad) Uzbeki.

And the day after, I was back at Classic at 3ish. Not many girls around, but the mama found me a terribly nice GFE girl Rosa. In the room after the first round (very passionate) I asked her if I could extend the session. She made a phone call upstairs to extend. We spent a total of 2 hours in the room. We did it twice (very passionate fuck) , followed by a long massage, and hand job (I couldn't get it up for a 3rd round). Napped a bit, showered, relaxed with a couple of smokes and beer while she put one her make up. Very nice 100% GFE session even with the limited English / Bahasa. The bill on check-out was 400+K on top of the 300 odd I had paid directly to the mama in the beginning. This included 2 sessions with Rosa, a large Bintang for me and a green tea for her. Not included was the 100K I tipped Rosa. All in all a very good afternoon with money well spent.

[QUOTE=Protooo; 1393116]HI,

I will be staying for 7 days at harris fx Sudirman Jakarta.

Any advise for close by actions.

I have RTFF, no mention of the hotel at all.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Pretty close to CJ's, BATS, Red Square, De Leila etc. Traffic is not a problem after 11pm (these places hardly get going before). Also you are not far from the Blok M bars and Melawai for massage.

KiJang your PM is off, would have loved to get her digits, sounds quite hot.

Traveling through Jakarta for a couple of days, will hit up BATS and see if I get lucky. My hotel will be kind off tough to bring back some one. With having to do the walk twice over one at the entrance and then again at my club level, I am not so sure. Are there any short time hotels around BATS that I can keep in the mind.

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1390893]Your pm is off.

I was also in BATS Friday night. Easy to spot me. I do stand out.

The girl in red. Was that from BATS? I think I know her. Great time![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Protooo; 1393116]HI,

I will be staying for 7 days at harris fx Sudirman Jakarta.

Any advise for close by actions.

I have RTFF, no mention of the hotel at all.

To Protoo.

There is a new 7 days inn at Manga besar not far from Lokasari plaza it is walking distance from hotel travel, I went inside and look at the room it is very small basic no mini bar and frig for 280, 000 a night I was staying at Olympic dlx room for 375, 000 a night larger room with mini bar at Lokasari plaza next to Millie disco bring girl back no problems, I go there last night at midnight girl is just start coming in, there are some hot chick there but they want a Mil rp for ST don't go down it all and I laugh I did pick up a older girl with many tatoo 30 yr old no baby stay all night 3 shots for 500k great GFE great BBBJ and AR.

Fast Eddie 48

I was in Jarkata the last 5 days staying at Olympic hotel at lokasari plaza first night check out hotel travel got a girl very shy inexperience only offer CBJ service is not very good worst I ever got from there yes price is up a bit 325k but still a bargin in this town, after around 9 pm take a taxi 18k to Kota indah MTR grand price for girl 355k there are 5 massage place in the area star and royal is the one with some nice girl for 300 k room is small not as nice as in hotel travel, the next few night I go to hotel travel everynight got a girl name boot boot vert tall girl with nice body have a rose tatoo on her back leg great GFE and BBBJ she is in the back room, I think the girl in the back room have more experience and a little older price is the same, I head Millie after mid night pick up another girl for ST stay 3 hr for 500 k she is also a GFE try to go there early after 2am girl there are mostly high on drug.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Snoop9999; 1393299]KiJang your PM is off, would have loved to get her digits, sounds quite hot.

Traveling through Jakarta for a couple of days, will hit up BATS and see if I get lucky. My hotel will be kind off tough to bring back some one. With having to do the walk twice over one at the entrance and then again at my club level, I am not so sure. Are there any short time hotels around BATS that I can keep in the mind.[/QUOTE]I forgot the name but there are one next to uob building.

On top of the American grill and kinotaki restaurant.

[QUOTE=Protooo; 1393116]HI,

I will be staying for 7 days at harris fx Sudirman Jakarta.

Any advise for close by actions.

I have RTFF, no mention of the hotel at all.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]For pick up try prive on fx mall

Thats called the SmartHotel.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe; 1394153]I forgot the name but there are one next to uob building.

On top of the American grill and kinotaki restaurant.

For pick up try prive on fx mall[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KiJang; 1389928]Chose to check out Oasis Spa.

Went back to my hotel, stripped off all my clothes, doused them in a liter of gasoline and lit a match. And then I took a bath in 20% dettol solution. Well, just kidding.

Well if you are wondering about the fourth towel, well, that was the one we had sex on.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I have same experience all mostly from Oasis.

And my Friend too.

May be we went their with high expectation.

Ended in ordinarily fish pool < 5/10 or 6/10 the girls and below,. That day at least.

My girl is ok, but with no power or mood for both massage or FJ.

She active only asking for more tips at the end,

The Oasis is not that Oasis and the hygiene is questionable, sorry they need imprivong.

Apologies for the delay in this report. This happened at the end of Jan. I was worried about the floods but hotel staff repeatedly advised there was no probs at the hotel. Firstly, I would like to again thank the kind member who gave me personal advice before my trip. I arrived in town at about 8pm. My main mistake was the situation of my hotel. For some reason, I thought that staying central (near Medan Merdeka or 'Monas') meant being near Blok M. I soon realised this mistake whilst talking to the hotel guys who picked me up from the airport. I was nearly 10pm by the time I reached the hotel (new Amaris Juanda hotel which was excellent at 400k / night). Soon I was in a taxi headed for Blok M. Needless to say, even with moderate traffic it still took 45 mins. The cost was about 35k (the hotel staff said it should be about 50k). Anyway, Blok M was nothing like I imagined. For some reason, I thought it would be all really modern bars a la Singapore. Anyway, got to the main Road (forget the name) andf quickly saw familiar bar names. Headed to Top Gun. Was amazed how busy it was on a Tues night. Lots of girls and expats and the band was loud. I was a bit shocked by the price of beer (38k) after being in Philippines for a while! I found it quite a difficult place in general to get girls' attention due the way they all sit in groups. I sat down at a table at the quiet end. Soon, a lady from the opp site of the room started making gestures and soon enough she and one of her friends were sat with me. Can't remember any names. Seemed friendly enoough but neither were really my type. I had noticed that another girl they were with had these incredible looking tits and her dress showed them off. After suggestions from me, they got her over to me. As usual, they were all from Bandung and been there for a few months. All spoke decent english. I soon struck up a deal for ST for 400k I think. The originall girl had asked for a drink and then wanted commission for arranging this and got quite aggressive. I ended up giving her the 12k change I got from the bar but she wasn't happy. I didn't waste time and soon we were in a taxi. I stupidly forgot advice about using Bluebird taxis (the hotels recommended 'Express' I generally found to be better). The first taxi guy said 'no meter. 100k'. I told him where to go. Then a meter taxi took us. On the way, I was concerned that the meter was running up really fast and sure enough the trip cost 56k! I mentioned I wasn't happy and agreed to pay. Now, I speciifically checked to make sure I gave him a 100k note. He took it and after a minute of rustling around, he retorted at what I had given him, showing me a 10k note and suggested I gave him that. I protested to no avail and ended up giving him another 100k note and got the change. Convinced I had been swindled, I mentioned this to the girl later but she just said 'I don't know'. Later after checking I realised I was a 100k short, so beware! After this I always simultaneously handed cash over whilst taking the correct change and insisting on Bluebird or Express.

Back at the hotel, the girl turned out to be a whinging dud. She had been way too quiet during car journey. Turned out she was early 20's and had a kid. Had a decent body and tits were big. Didn; t like her tits being sucked though! Only saving grace was she was fully shaven. Got reluctant about photos later. She had issues with giving oral although she had agreed at the bar. Sex was ok. She left well before the 2 hr arrangement. Didn't bother going back. Next day after sightseeing in Kota / Sunda Kelapa (where I saw some flooding as it had rained a bit night before) , I decided to check out some daytime action at lunch time. Agreed that taxi would take me to Malioboro. Traffic was crazy and it took an hour. Arrived at the hotel and wasn't really sure what to expect but thought it was a bar. Anyway, spoke to reception but due to language difficulties I think I got the wrong end of the stick. They kept saying 'band starts after 7pm'. I asked to go to the bar and they suggested I could go but would have to pay over 100k to do this! I was soon in another taxi and very annoyed. Decided to go to Melawai as my personal advisor had suggested this was the other good daytime action. Needless to say this was in Blok M, so another hour or so car ride. I think there must also have been a misunderstanding the the member who advised me as I had made it clear that I need to take girls back to my room and any other venue is not an option. I also expected freelancers so you can imagine my surprise to find that the bar at the hotel is effectively just a brothel. It was about 2pm and lot of women. Some very hot. It was awkward sitting there with a drink and them all sitting across from you, not saying a word. One came over for a chat and I soon realised that none of the girls would go to my hotel unless it was the end of there shift. Even if they did, it would be more than the 500k / hr they charge for action on site. This was pushing my budget anyway. I also then realised that there was no action of the type that I require anywhere in Jakarta during the daytime. Disappointingly, I returned to my hotel with the intention of returning the to Blok M bars when they opened at 5pm (according to local intel). It turned out that even if Top Gun opened at 5pm (the others didn't until 7pm) there was no action till 8/9pm. I noticed an older lady (said her name was Anne and was in her 60's!) who I had seen in Top Gun the night before, sitting outside the bar. She remembered me too. We chatted and said she was from Sumatra originally. Spoke good english and said she was waiting for an english male friend to play pool with. Said she was a champ. Even offered to call me a girl for a crazy price. I was so desperate I even contemplated taking her! I dropped that bait by lying and saying I paid 350k for the girl night before. Over the next hour, I went into a couple of the sports bars that were open but no action. I ended up sitting outside at a table provided by a shop selling cold drinks etc nearby. Anne's 'friend' never showed but she was not interested in my offer. I figured if I can't get her then what chance do I have? Disillusioned I headed back to the hotel again.

Having spent a ridiculous amount of time and money trying to find a specific restaurant in Cikini with an idiot taxi driver, I arrived at Blok M later than I expected. I tried D's place but walked out when I found out they had no cold water. I went to a small looking place called Highway to heaven, I think. Some nice options in the bar downstairs wooing an old Aussie guy. Didn't manage to strike up conversation with any of them. Went upstairs to a surprisingly large dance area. Very few options up there. Saw girl from night before in there but she just ignored me. Went to Top Gun again and same difficulty getting girls' attention. Decided to wait outside to grab a girl as they walked between bars. Was midnight by now. Stood on opp side from Top Gun. Saw a few options but even then couldn't get their attention as usually in pairs or groups. Forgot to mention I had followed one petite hottie out of Highway but she looked at me like I was an alien when I called out to her just outside and ran into Top Gun. Anyway, I was just about to head off having accepted I was not going to get anymore action, when this short, slightly plump dark girl walked out of D's place on her own. She approached me and soon the deal was done. Think I got her as low as 300k but can't remember. Took care getting a taxi this time. One thing that irritated me there was that all taxis insisted you pay their 'parking fee' separate to the fare. I think this is absolutely ridiculous and one of the many annoying things about this godforsaken city. She was really talkative on way back although her english wasn't great. Said she was from single mum from Bandung etc and only arrived 3 days before! Her greenness was a bit of an issue but not a big deal. At the hotel, her body wasn't great but made up for this with enthusiasm. Tits were surprisingly nice. Was happy to try DFK (prev girl refused). Refused to shave although her lips weren't that hairy. DATY was fine but didn't liked her arse played with. Sex was decent. Called it a night. Having previously planned to have at least 4 girls that day, the end result was a damp squib in comparison.

As I was leaving in the afternoon next day, no chance of any further action at all. Needless to say neither girl would allow anal sex. In summary, Jakarts is surprisingly comparatively overpriced when it comes to ladies, but I was aware of this before my arrival. Along with the numerous little irritations and annoyances, I can't see why anyone would go out of their way to come here for mongering, unless it was impossible to get Indo girls cheaper elsewhere. I do like Indo girls but that is not enough to counter all the cons that Jakarta puts up. Really disappointed with the outcome of my trip. Whilst the hotel selection didn't help, I don't think staying in Blok M would have helped with daytime action.

DL

[QUOTE=Donnylad; 1394734]Apologies for the delay in this report. This happened at the end of Jan. I was worried about the floods but hotel staff repeatedly advised there was no probs at the hotel. Firstly, I would like to again thank the kind member who gave me personal advice before my trip. I arrived in town at about 8pm. My main mistake was the situation of my hotel. For some reason, I thought that staying central (near Medan Merdeka or 'Monas') meant being near Blok M. I soon realised this mistake whilst talking to the hotel guys who picked me up from the airport. I was nearly 10pm by the time I reached the hotel (new Amaris Juanda hotel which was excellent at 400k / night). Soon I was in a taxi headed for Blok M. Needless to say, even with moderate traffic it still took 45 mins. The cost was about 35k (the hotel staff said it should be about 50k). Anyway, Blok M was nothing like I imagined. For some reason, I thought it would be all really modern bars a la Singapore. Anyway, got to the main Road (forget the name) andf quickly saw familiar bar names. Headed to Top Gun. Was amazed how busy it was on a Tues night. Lots of girls and expats and the band was loud. I was a bit shocked by the price of beer (38k) after being in Philippines for a while! I found it quite a difficult place in general to get girls' attention due the way they all sit in groups. I sat down at a table at the quiet end. Soon, a lady from the opp site of the room started making gestures and soon enough she and one of her friends were sat with me. Can't remember any names. Seemed friendly enoough but neither were really my type. I had noticed that another girl they were with had these incredible looking tits and her dress showed them off. After suggestions from me, they got her over to me. As usual, they were all from Bandung and been there for a few months. All spoke decent english. I soon struck up a deal for ST for 400k I think. The originall girl had asked for a drink and then wanted commission for arranging this and got quite aggressive. I ended up giving her the 12k change I got from the bar but she wasn't happy. I didn't waste time and soon we were in a taxi. I stupidly forgot advice about using Bluebird taxis (the hotels recommended 'Express' I generally found to be better). The first taxi guy said 'no meter. 100k'. I told him where to go. Then a meter taxi took us. On the way, I was concerned that the meter was running up really fast and sure enough the trip cost 56k! I mentioned I wasn't happy and agreed to pay. Now, I speciifically checked to make sure I gave him a 100k note. He took it and after a minute of rustling around, he retorted at what I had given him, showing me a 10k note and suggested I gave him that. I protested to no avail and ended up giving him another 100k note and got the change. Convinced I had been swindled, I mentioned this to the girl later but she just said 'I don't know'. Later after checking I realised I was a 100k short, so beware! After this I always simultaneously handed cash over whilst taking the correct change and insisting on Bluebird or Express.

Back at the hotel, the girl turned out to be a whinging dud. She had been way too quiet during car journey. Turned out she was early 20's and had a kid. Had a decent body and tits were big. Didn; t like her tits being sucked though! Only saving grace was she was fully shaven. Got reluctant about photos later. She had issues with giving oral although she had agreed at the bar. Sex was ok. She left well before the 2 hr arrangement. Didn't bother going back. Next day after sightseeing in Kota / Sunda Kelapa (where I saw some flooding as it had rained a bit night before) , I decided to check out some daytime action at lunch time. Agreed that taxi would take me to Malioboro. Traffic was crazy and it took an hour. Arrived at the hotel and wasn't really sure what to expect but thought it was a bar. Anyway, spoke to reception but due to language difficulties I think I got the wrong end of the stick. They kept saying 'band starts after 7pm'. I asked to go to the bar and they suggested I could go but would have to pay over 100k to do this! I was soon in another taxi and very annoyed. Decided to go to Melawai as my personal advisor had suggested this was the other good daytime action. Needless to say this was in Blok M, so another hour or so car ride. I think there must also have been a misunderstanding the the member who advised me as I had made it clear that I need to take girls back to my room and any other venue is not an option. I also expected freelancers so you can imagine my surprise to find that the bar at the hotel is effectively just a brothel. It was about 2pm and lot of women. Some very hot. It was awkward sitting there with a drink and them all sitting across from you, not saying a word. One came over for a chat and I soon realised that none of the girls would go to my hotel unless it was the end of there shift. Even if they did, it would be more than the 500k / hr they charge for action on site. This was pushing my budget anyway. I also then realised that there was no action of the type that I require anywhere in Jakarta during the daytime. Disappointingly, I returned to my hotel with the intention of returning the to Blok M bars when they opened at 5pm (according to local intel). It turned out that even if Top Gun opened at 5pm (the others didn't until 7pm) there was no action till 8/9pm. I noticed an older lady (said her name was Anne and was in her 60's!) who I had seen in Top Gun the night before, sitting outside the bar. She remembered me too. We chatted and said she was from Sumatra originally. Spoke good english and said she was waiting for an english male friend to play pool with. Said she was a champ. Even offered to call me a girl for a crazy price. I was so desperate I even contemplated taking her! I dropped that bait by lying and saying I paid 350k for the girl night before. Over the next hour, I went into a couple of the sports bars that were open but no action. I ended up sitting outside at a table provided by a shop selling cold drinks etc nearby. Anne's 'friend' never showed but she was not interested in my offer. I figured if I can't get her then what chance do I have? Disillusioned I headed back to the hotel again.

Having spent a ridiculous amount of time and money trying to find a specific restaurant in Cikini with an idiot taxi driver, I arrived at Blok M later than I expected. I tried D's place but walked out when I found out they had no cold water. I went to a small looking place called Highway to heaven, I think. Some nice options in the bar downstairs wooing an old Aussie guy. Didn't manage to strike up conversation with any of them. Went upstairs to a surprisingly large dance area. Very few options up there. Saw girl from night before in there but she just ignored me. Went to Top Gun again and same difficulty getting girls' attention. Decided to wait outside to grab a girl as they walked between bars. Was midnight by now. Stood on opp side from Top Gun. Saw a few options but even then couldn't get their attention as usually in pairs or groups. Forgot to mention I had followed one petite hottie out of Highway but she looked at me like I was an alien when I called out to her just outside and ran into Top Gun. Anyway, I was just about to head off having accepted I was not going to get anymore action, when this short, slightly plump dark girl walked out of D's place on her own. She approached me and soon the deal was done. Think I got her as low as 300k but can't remember. Took care getting a taxi this time. One thing that irritated me there was that all taxis insisted you pay their 'parking fee' separate to the fare. I think this is absolutely ridiculous and one of the many annoying things about this godforsaken city. She was really talkative on way back although her english wasn't great. Said she was from single mum from Bandung etc and only arrived 3 days before! Her greenness was a bit of an issue but not a big deal. At the hotel, her body wasn't great but made up for this with enthusiasm. Tits were surprisingly nice. Was happy to try DFK (prev girl refused). Refused to shave although her lips weren't that hairy. DATY was fine but didn't liked her arse played with. Sex was decent. Called it a night. Having previously planned to have at least 4 girls that day, the end result was a damp squib in comparison.

As I was leaving in the afternoon next day, no chance of any further action at all. Needless to say neither girl would allow anal sex. In summary, Jakarts is surprisingly comparatively overpriced when it comes to ladies, but I was aware of this before my arrival. Along with the numerous little irritations and annoyances, I can't see why anyone would go out of their way to come here for mongering, unless it was impossible to get Indo girls cheaper elsewhere. I do like Indo girls but that is not enough to counter all the cons that Jakarta puts up. Really disappointed with the outcome of my trip. Whilst the hotel selection didn't help, I don't think staying in Blok M would have helped with daytime action.

DL[/QUOTE]Hi Donnylad,

Did somebody tell you about Classic Hotel and the three wonderful floors of excitement. Seems you spent more on taxi fares than on getting laid. Well, better luck next time.

[QUOTE=Zenlove; 1394783]Hi Donnylad,

Did somebody tell you about Classic Hotel and the three wonderful floors of excitement. Seems you spent more on taxi fares than on getting laid. Well, better luck next time.[/QUOTE]Did nobody ever tell you that you can snip (=delete) huge swathes of text from original posts before replying with quote?

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Donnylad; 1394734]Apologies for the delay in this report. This happened at the end of Jan. I was worried about the floods but hotel staff repeatedly advised there was no probs at the hotel. Firstly, I would like to again thank the kind member who gave me personal advice before my trip. I arrived in town at about 8pm. My main mistake was the situation of my hotel. For some reason...[/QUOTE]No offence but you did not really read the reports or the jakarta1000 bars site. You did not follow the Taxi rules. Neways Jakarta still way good. For a guy with no bahasa skills I scored so Indo always ranks high on my list.

[QUOTE=Donnylad;1394734]Apologies for the delay in this report. This happened at the end of Jan. I was worried about the floods but hotel staff repeatedly advised there was no probs at the hotel. Firstly, I would like to again thank the kind member who gave me personal advice before my trip. I arrived in town at about 8pm. My main mistake was the situation of my hotel. For some reason, I thought that staying central (near Medan Merdeka or 'Monas') meant being near Blok M.[/QUOTE]One question come to mind after reading your post.

WTF are you doing man? You are going from one extreme direction to the other extreme.

I think you need more info on location in jakarta before heading out.

From sunda kelapa, the closest location would be alexis and k7, instead of malio.

And from malio to blok m where there are many other action nearby?

What restaurant are you looking for in cikini?

FYI for the parking / tol it is not covered in taxi fee. Parking usually about 2000-4000 rupiah.

What time did you go to malio? The spa open at 1 pm and the bar usually empty at day.

I think the staff at malio actually trying to be helpful, they want to tell you that there no one in the bar at the time.

And the 100k is the facilities charge for using the spa.

Also there is no pick up bar that open during the day that can take out call.

It seem that you did not have the right info regarding jakarta, hence the bad experience

[QUOTE=Zenlove; 1394783]Hi Donnylad,

Did somebody tell you about Classic Hotel and the three wonderful floors of excitement. Seems you spent more on taxi fares than on getting laid. Well, better luck next time.[/QUOTE]I think his post has so many mishaps and misunderstandings that it must me fake. It is totally inconceivable how anyone can fail so badly in a mongering heaven like Jakarta! The entire posting is almost an insult to the forum, as all the advice required in order to have a great time is right here here, for all to read!

DL: Homework. Homework. Homework.

Monger on!

Peff

[QUOTE=Donnylad;1394734]Along with the numerous little irritations and annoyances, I can't see why anyone would go out of their way to come here for mongering, unless it was impossible to get Indo girls cheaper elsewhere. I do like Indo girls but that is not enough to counter all the cons that Jakarta puts up. Really disappointed with the outcome of my trip.[/QUOTE]Exactly why I use the services of JAD.

Hi guys.

I've been living in Jakarta for few months, I got a job offer in Manila with better money, can anyone tell what is the major differences between the two cities? Cost of living, girls quality and attitude? I'm in my mid 30s and will be after semi pros and freebies.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Donnylad; 1394734]I was a bit shocked by the price of beer (38k)

I don't think staying in Blok M would have helped with daytime action.[/QUOTE]If you were shocked by 38k, definitely don't go to Bats or CJ's. A beer is 120k there.

If you had stayed at Hotel Melawai Blok M, you could have gone to Maribaya daily. It opens at 10am.

[QUOTE=New Imhotep; 1395755]Hi guys.

I've been living in Jakarta for few months, I got a job offer in Manila with better money, can anyone tell what is the major differences between the two cities? Cost of living, girls quality and attitude? I'm in my mid 30s and will be after semi pros and freebies.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Definitely Manilla if you're more into semi-pro and freebies scene. However, Jakarta has a much bigger and in my opinion better scene for p4p and there are definitely freebies available (although not to the extent of anywhere in the Phillipines) but then again I'm still in my early 20s.

I was interested to read the responses about my report. It does annoy me when people say to read the forum, as some people do not have the time to read every single report going back months and years. I did as much research as possible and relied on the advice of one experienced member. As I stated in my report, any venue for action other than my hote room is not an option, which removes all daytime opportunities in Jakarta. The only reason I tried the places I did was due to a misunderstanding with my adviser. I thank you for explaining the situation at Malioboro and I apologise if my summary has offended anyone here. However, it is just my own opinion, to which I am entitled and do stand by. I will not be visiting this forum again, so if anyone wishes to PM me to discuss this further then feel free.

DL

[QUOTE=Donnylad;1394734]Apologies for the delay in this report. . I can't see why anyone would go out of their way to come here for mongering, unless it was impossible to get Indo girls cheaper elsewhere.DL[/QUOTE]Donny boy. Looks like you have read the f*in forum but you have not READ the f*in forum. You need to do more research. Looks like you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, all the time.

I go to Jakarta for mongering even though Thailand and Africa is closer and Philippines and Africa is cheaper (I have been to all 3 heaps of times with many reports, under a different I D which I had to abandon for privacy). Anyway, the point is, I do not agree with your above assessment.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1395831]If you were shocked by 38k, definitely don't go to Bats or CJ's. A beer is 120k there.

If you had stayed at Hotel Melawai Blok M, you could have gone to Maribaya daily. It opens at 10am.[/QUOTE]I was shocked by the 38K too on my first Jakarta and Top Gun trip. I thought it was so cheap that I ended up paying 50K for every beer with change as tips.

[QUOTE=Donnylad; 1396005]IAs I stated in my report, any venue for action other than my hote room is not an option, which removes all daytime opportunities in Jakarta.

DL[/QUOTE]You are right about that. There aren't any daytime places in Jakarta where one can walk out with a freelancer. Something like the beer bars in Thailand. That's where regular girls, students, and the freelancers you met few nights back at BATS etc. Can fill the void. Or rather, provide a void to be filled.

[QUOTE=David_33;1395666]Exactly why I use the services of JAD.[/QUOTE]As David33 says. If new to Jakarta or to mongering. Book JAD services. The man will make sure you are taken care of and dial the tour to your requests. He might seem expensive but the choices are having a bad experience or something that will leave a smile on your face.

KiJang. You are right on little miss red dress. She has an amazing body. In fact you and I almost met that night you took her home. I went over to talk to her as you were talking to her. She and I had setup for her to do my girlfriend that night but missed meeting her early enough. So you kinda cock blocked me.

Report:

Turns out the gf likes pussy! Especially if she is really horny. Back to BATS Friday night. Again set up to meet little miss red from above and she ran off with a regular. So it was looking like a night without a third. A little 25 yo sprite shows up all smiles. A lot of dirty dancing and seems really good. The GF actually took the lead to find out if she was up for a night. Turns out she had never been with a woman. Well that inspired the GF. Finally agree on a price and head to my place. The girl goes to the restroom and GF walks out in heels and a sexy new outfit. The girl was so nervous. Kept trying to start different conversations and renegotiate. GF made her strip and walk into the bedroom. Once there I worked to calm her as the gf pried apart her legs and ate at the Y. Turns out the girl ended up liking all of the attention. 3 hours later kicked her out and had more fun.

Damn I am one lucky guy!

Next weekend is already planned in Singapore.

[QUOTE=Donnylad; 1396005]The only reason I tried the places I did was due to a misunderstanding with my adviser. I thank you for explaining the situation at Malioboro and I apologise if my summary has offended anyone here. However, it is just my own opinion, to which I am entitled and do stand by. I will not be visiting this forum again, so if anyone wishes to PM me to discuss this further then feel free.

DL[/QUOTE]You're entitled to your opinion of course, but I do think your planning and information is way off.

With better info, you can have a lot better experience.

For one you need to know the area and traffic condition of jakarta.

Aside from reading the forum, you could ask here, I think a lot of the guys is very helpful

Hi all,

Planning to do a visit to Jakarta soon. Haven't been there for almost 18months. Does anyone know the whether the former TC has been re-opened. Last time it was under renovation. The closest option was at Olympic or the Spa opposite

I am prompted to write this report because of a statement over in the Bali forum:

"Has been difficult to find large breasts in Bali on the street. (Yes I know Indonesia is not the place for them, but that is where I travel to.)" Vlad Impaler.

Actually, I think Indonesia women are bustier than the SE Asia norm, but the hunt is part of the fun. I had the opportunity to visit Mariyabaya one afternoon last week, for the first time in maybe a year and I think it was my first weekday afternoon visit. A one-word summary: wow!

I got off the elevator and found two girls whispering in their mobile phones. Both were do-able and probably in the top of the class from my memory, but neither one were aggressive enough to hang up on the boyfriend or mom or whoever it was. I walked in the bar area and – wow! Probably 40 or 50 women and ALL of them looked great. I did a quick walk around. Nice figures, pretty smiles. Then nice figure, pretty smile, and great cleavage. Cleavage? Nice figures, pretty smiles, even cute butts are relatively common in Asia. Cleavage, not so common. I'm impressed.

I had a quick interview with Ms Cleavage. She's from Solo and, yes, it's all her and all natural. Then we go off to the room. On the way out, we get a round of applause from the room, so maybe I was the first customer of the day. Also lots of 'You want 2 girls mister? ' (mau dua wanita pak?) offers. I mime that 2 girls might kill me, which gets appreciative laughter.

In the room, my new friend is one of the best visual delights I've seen in a while and she provides a great 2-hole performance as well. TTG left a happy man.

There have been some improvements to the rooms in the last year – enough to notice, but not enough to impress. The facilities are still on a par (for example) with Tulip in Bangkok, although the Tulip showers are better.

Damage at the end was 520k IDR. Why the extra 20k I don't know and didn't push it.

On the way out, I saw one tall wanita that was pretty enough to make me stop in my tracks. Ah, to be even 10 years younger and have another go. So now I'm plotting a return visit.

TTG

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1396695]I had the opportunity to visit Mariyabaya one afternoon last week, for the first time in maybe a year and I think it was my first weekday afternoon visit. A one-word summary: wow![/QUOTE]I dropped by there yesterday evening, first time for ages. It's very quiet on a Sunday evening, no punters and only about five or six girls, about two of whom fulfilled my criteria. I went with Etty and had a generally good time. I've got to say, I live closer to Kota these days, which also has the advantage of a rack rate that's about 200k cheaper. Even so, in Kota (Berlian, Ibu Linda and the others) , it is a little bit more hit and miss in terms of service. I've hardly ever had bad service at Maribaya. It's definitely worth keeping in your rolodex.

Hello, I just arrived in jakarta and company serve me in Park Hotel. Can anyone introduce to me any girl in this hotel and price or where can I get a girl in around this hotel and the market price for now.

[QUOTE=Xhunterx;1396799]Hello, I just arrived in jakarta and company serve me in Park Hotel. Can anyone introduce to me any girl in this hotel and price or where can I get a girl in around this hotel and the market price for now.[/QUOTE]RTFF. The forum members help, but after you RTFF. Straight away seeking info in the very first post without RTFF, does not augur well. In any case, all info you are seeking is available in the forum f you care to read them.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy; 1396695]I am prompted to write this report because of a statement over in the Bali forum:

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On the way out, I saw one tall wanita that was pretty enough to make me stop in my tracks. Ah, to be even 10 years younger and have another go. So now I'm plotting a return visit.

TTG[/QUOTE]You may have spotted Novi, known to the other girls as Novi Tinggi (tall Novi). She is definitely worth a go. In her early thirties and knows how to work miracles with her tongue, both in DFK and on other areas. Some time ago I uploaded a few pictures of her in action.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=John Aldrich;1396973]RTFF. The forum members help, but after you RTFF. Straight away seeking info in the very first post without RTFF, does not augur well. In any case, all info you are seeking is available in the forum f you care to read them.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that. I'm the newbie here so might don't know the rules about here. But I really need some guide in Jakarta. Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1396695]she provides a great 2-hole performance as well.[/QUOTE]Which 2 holes?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1397020]Which 2 holes?[/QUOTE]Haha. I was going to ask myself.

[QUOTE=XHunterX;1396799]Hello, I just arrived in jakarta and company serve me in Park Hotel. Can anyone introduce to me any girl in this hotel and price or where can I get a girl in around this hotel and the market price for now.[/QUOTE]The stream of one post wonders never ceases to amze.

Kids come here and figure its a sweet shop where they can say to the kindly gent behind the counter " give me ten red ones two blue ones three green and couple of those lollipops in the back " Wow free candy, amazing!

Ask yourself HunterLoser, if I go to the company that you work for (I'm assuming you work) and I want to see all your companies trading data will you give it to me. Or will I have to do some "research " to find it.

All the info you need is here. Do the research. Its not a fucking candy store! Tool.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1397078]All the info you need is here. Do the research. Its not a fucking candy store! Tool.[/QUOTE]XhunterX could ask his questions in PM. That's [I]if[/I] He had PM.

[QUOTE=Donnylad; 1396005]I was interested to read the responses about my report. It does annoy me when people say to read the forum, as some people do not have the time to read every single report going back months and years. I did as much research as possible and relied on the advice of one experienced member. As I stated in my report, any venue for action other than my hote room is not an option, which removes all daytime opportunities in Jakarta. The only reason I tried the places I did was due to a misunderstanding with my adviser. I thank you for explaining the situation at Malioboro and I apologise if my summary has offended anyone here. However, it is just my own opinion, to which I am entitled and do stand by. I will not be visiting this forum again, so if anyone wishes to PM me to discuss this further then feel free.
DL[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KiJang;1396151]You are right about that. There aren't any daytime places in Jakarta where one can walk out with a freelancer. Something like the beer bars in Thailand. That's where regular girls, students, and the freelancers you met few nights back at BATS etc. Can fill the void. Or rather, provide a void to be filled.[/QUOTE]
Just to set the record straight so that newcomers who read will not be misled: Jakarta is what you make of it, and you DL unfortunately made very little of it. There are daytime opportunities for FLs - especially if you are a bule (let's face it, it's easier for the girls to spot you here). Mall hunting has been discussed at length and it's all a matter of how you approach someone, including the shop assistants. It's all about eye contact and speaking nicely to them. Standard rules apply. Make them laugh and you're halfway there. If you're in town for a few days, more opportunities can arise if you plan your time and activities wisely. In addition, as has been pointed out by others, there are takeout options from various spas etc as long as you're willing to pay the price. If you're that desperate to do anything in your room, you can always call for a room massage (ask for a younger girl and they'll know what you want). If you're really unclear on how to do anything, the concierge / bellboy / doorman might be able to help for a decent tip.

Kijang,
Not sure I quite agree with you. Students, regular girls and FLs hang around certain malls like Blok M Plaza and it's up to you to do some work. yes it's not so straightforward, but frankly not so difficult either. It's all down to what you're willing to do. Hell I'm 48 and not the slimmest person under the sun - neither am I a bule. Yet I can find normal regular girls here in abundance. Anyone can do it if they have the right attitude and apply some common sense - which is unfortunately less common nowadays.

MD II

[QUOTE=XHunterX;1396799]Hello, I just arrived in jakarta and company serve me in Park Hotel. Can anyone introduce to me any girl in this hotel and price or where can I get a girl in around this hotel and the market price for now.[/QUOTE]Dude. Contact Jakarta after dark for a great guide. His cost isat200 USD but worth it to see a lot of what Jakarta has to offer.

Jakartaafterdark with hotmail.

Just tell him where you got the info.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1397117]Hell I'm 48 and not the slimmest person under the sun. Neither am I a bule. Yet I can find normal regular girls here in abundance. Anyone can do it if they have the right attitude and apply some common sense. Which is unfortunately less common nowadays.

MD II[/QUOTE]You're being modest my friend! With the way you look, my conquests have been vast and much easier!

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two; 1397071]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1397020]Which 2 holes?[/QUOTE]Haha. I was going to ask myself.[/QUOTE]Ears, maybe?

[QUOTE=XHunterX;1396799]Hello, I just arrived in jakarta and company serve me in Park Hotel. Can anyone introduce to me any girl in this hotel and price or where can I get a girl in around this hotel and the market price for now.[/QUOTE]Park hotel is a bit far from most of the action.

You need to head out to kota or blok m for most of the action

you are not even clear on what do you want or budget
jakarta have a wide variety of budget from low to high

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1397317]You need to head out to kota or blok m for most of the action[/QUOTE]I have a question to the insiders. You often say "checkout Blok M". Wich Blok m? Blok M Square, Blok M Plaza? Are there special shops (names?) or places to find freelancers? Also possible to get some girlworkers from shop? I hope some can give me more details about "mall hunting" of freelancers.

[QUOTE=Pancha; 1396680]Hi all,

Planning to do a visit to Jakarta soon. Haven't been there for almost 18months. Does anyone know the whether the former TC has been re-opened. Last time it was under renovation. The closest option was at Olympic or the Spa opposite[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, TC has closed permanently. I was in Lokasari last week and checked.

If anyone knows of a TC-like place, please let us know!

Bule2004

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1397020]Which 2 holes?[/QUOTE]Mouth and pussy. Great fuck and acceptable BBBJCIM. Sorry I wasn't clear. I didn't edit the post, and I made a spelling error, too. And I thought about the confusion I might cause.

I used to live with a lady who liked to get fucked in the ass while she played with herself. That's about the only time (s) I've been interested in anal. TTG

[QUOTE=Hansm;1397405]I have a question to the insiders. You often say "checkout Blok M". Wich Blok m? Blok M Square, Blok M Plaza? Are there special shops (names?) or places to find freelancers? Also possible to get some girlworkers from shop? I hope some can give me more details about "mall hunting" of freelancers.[/QUOTE]Blok M is a bus terminus, a shopping mall, and a street of ladies wanting to make money by standing around several bars, the most popular of which seems to be a disco of sorts, there is also a place known a s D's Place where one can get blown in the back room. The latter is in "Jalan Feletehan" more colloquially known as Jalan Fellatio.

[quote=bule2004; 1397487]unfortunately, tc has closed permanently. i was in lokasari last week and checked.

if anyone knows of a tc-like place, please let us know!

bule2004[/quote]bule 2004,

i was staying at lokasari 2 weeks ago there are many place to find girl in the area, tc is gone but millie a pick up disco on the 7 th floor where tc used to be i pick up a girl there 300k stay 3 hr around mid night there are some very hot girl there that want one mil will not bargin at all, other place is oasis sauna and sierra, bintang mewar brothel with room upstair but quality is not good and you can go to hotel travel and stadium is walking distance, i don't missed tc at all don't why you guy like that place so much unless you just like **** girl.

fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Hansm;1397405]I have a question to the insiders. You often say "checkout Blok M". Wich Blok m? Blok M Square, Blok M Plaza? Are there special shops (names?) or places to find freelancers? Also possible to get some girlworkers from shop? I hope some can give me more details about "mall hunting" of freelancers.[/QUOTE]Here you go. One more newbie who does not care to RTFF. Tons of info out in the forum. Just RTFF mate.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Shuga;1397261]Ears, maybe?[/QUOTE]Had the famous limerick about Nantucket in mind:

[i]There once was a man from Nantucket
Who's dick was so long he could suck it
He said with a grin
Wiping sperm ofhis chin
'If my ear were deeper I'd fuck it. '

[/i]

Question, any of you guys know of a place with topless / nude dancing that starts before sunset? The earliest I know of is Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading, but I believe they start around 8pm. I heard V2 have dancers during the day, is that true?

Any info is much appreciated.

[QUOTE=John Aldrich; 1397811]Here you go. One more newbie who does not care to RTFF. Tons of info out in the forum. Just RTFF mate.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Thanks for your (not) helpfull comment. You are english native speaker? If yes. I think you understand my detailed questions, or? If not I have bad english maybe. I do NOT find detailed informations about my sepcial interest in "Blok M".

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My question again:

Wich Blok m? Blok M Square, Blok M Plaza? Are there special shops (names?) or places to find freelancers? Also possible to get some girlworkers from shops? I hope some can give me more details about "mall hunting" of freelancers.

-

My interest was mainly in finding "normal" girls in the malls! I ask about the malls and if there are some shops (not clubs, karaoke, massage, street prostitues and so on!) where I can find some girls. I want to hear about some experiences and actual (!) tipps. I'm also interested for detailed info about some places (with names) to stay in the malls (coffee shop, cinema, whatever). I was in blok m square and plaza (malls!) in January and I want to know from other guys about there experiences. So I not find this in FAQ. Guys who post comments like yours are not usefull! Save your time to post comments like this. It#s more usefull to give me some info or help. (RTFF is no help.)

[QUOTE=XHunterX;1397012]Sorry about that. I'm the newbie here so might don't know the rules about here. But I really need some guide in Jakarta. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Try contacting Jakarta After Dark. JAD is just amazing. He will chaperone you to the right places and you will have a memorable time.

Cheers

[QUOTE=BlinkCat; 1398028]Question, any of you guys know of a place with topless / nude dancing that starts before sunset? The earliest I know of is Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading, but I believe they start around 8pm. I heard V2 have dancers during the day, is that true?

Any info is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in V2 during the afternoon the atmosphere was relaxed with quite a few girls but no topless dancing.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=BlinkCat; 1398028]Question, any of you guys know of a place with topless / nude dancing that starts before sunset? The earliest I know of is Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading, but I believe they start around 8pm. I heard V2 have dancers during the day, is that true?

Any info is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't think v2 have dance during the day.

I don't think any location have dancer during the day though.

Not enough customer to justify it.

[QUOTE=Hansm;1398104]My interest was mainly in finding "normal" girls in the malls! I ask about the malls and if there are some shops (not clubs, karaoke, massage, street prostitues and so on!) where I can find some girls. I want to hear about some experiences and actual (!) tipps. I'm also interested for detailed info about some places (with names) to stay in the malls (coffee shop, cinema, whatever). I was in blok m square and plaza (malls!) in January and I want to know from other guys about there experiences. So I not find this in FAQ. Guys who post comments like yours are not usefull! Save your time to post comments like this. It#s more usefull to give me some info or help. (RTFF is no help.)[/QUOTE]I think you should into old post by bulai69, have not seen other report on mall hunting by other people in this forum.

I seen some guide in singaporean forum that is similar and more current that I post a little here.

But if you are looking for "normal" girls in the malls, basically it depend on your look and skill.

[QUOTE=John Aldrich; 1398175]Try contacting Jakarta After Dark. JAD is just amazing. He will chaperone you to the right places and you will have a memorable time.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi Bro : saw his website : USD 200 per pax for REGULAR tour : I assume it is worth the expense?

[QUOTE=SailSingapore;1398297]Hi Bro : saw his website : USD 200 per pax for REGULAR tour : I assume it is worth the expense?[/QUOTE]Just an observation, as I never used the service.

I think for this kind of service depend on what you are looking for, timeline, your experience.

If it's you first time in jakarta, does not have a lot of time and you are totally green, then it might be a good service.

But if you already know jakarta scene, or got time to try out yourself, then might not be as good.

Although there will still be some benefit of course.

[QUOTE=SailSingapore;1398297]Hi Bro : saw his website : USD 200 per pax for REGULAR tour : I assume it is worth the expense?[/QUOTE]Experienced monger and used him the first time I visited. I'd read a lot about Maliaboro and Stadium and asked him to show me places I didn't know. He took me to Kings Court, Classic Terminal, Hotel Travel and Alexis. He made sure I understood the system in each and left with a business card so I could show it to taxi drivers and get there again. He was willing to go up-market or down-market depending upon what I wanted. I've been back to Jakarta a few times and am back again now. Still using those business cards a year and a half later. I think his service is excellent and he's a nice, personable guy. I highly recommend his service.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe; 1398315]If it's you first time in jakarta, does not have a lot of time and you are totally green, then it might be a good service.

But if you already know jakarta scene, or got time to try out yourself, then might not be as good.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Even then, I still haven't been to some of the dodgier places and I don't have any wingmen here. I would consider using his service to get to additional places potentially. But I'm pretty happy with the places I know for the moment.

[QUOTE=Pita123; 1398399]Experienced monger and used him the first time I visited. I'd read a lot about Maliaboro and Stadium and asked him to show me places I didn't know. He took me to Kings Court, Classic Terminal, Hotel Travel and Alexis. He made sure I understood the system in each and left with a business card so I could show it to taxi drivers and get there again. He was willing to go up-market or down-market depending upon what I wanted. I've been back to Jakarta a few times and am back again now. Still using those business cards a year and a half later. I think his service is excellent and he's a nice, personable guy. I highly recommend his service.

I agree with you. Even then, I still haven't been to some of the dodgier places and I don't have any wingmen here. I would consider using his service to get to additional places potentially. But I'm pretty happy with the places I know for the moment.[/QUOTE]Noted with thanks!

Shall use him on my 1st night on my maiden voyage to J'ka.

[QUOTE=SailSingapore;1398297]Hi Bro : saw his website : USD 200 per pax for REGULAR tour : I assume it is worth the expense?[/QUOTE]If you overpay 1 or 2 ceweks during your maiden visit, that comes out to the same amount invested with JAD. Plus you'll have a good time during the tour!

[QUOTE=Hansm; 1398104]Thanks for your (not) helpfull comment. You are english native speaker? If yes. I think you understand my detailed questions, or? If not I have bad english maybe. I do NOT find detailed informations about my sepcial interest in "Blok M".

-

My question again:

Wich Blok m? Blok M Square, Blok M Plaza? Are there special shops (names?) or places to find freelancers? Also possible to get some girlworkers from shops? I hope some can give me more details about "mall hunting" of freelancers.

-

My interest was mainly in finding "normal" girls in the malls! I ask about the malls and if there are some shops (not clubs, karaoke, massage, street prostitues and so on!) where I can find some girls. I want to hear about some experiences and actual (!) tipps. I'm also interested for detailed info about some places (with names) to stay in the malls (coffee shop, cinema, whatever). I was in blok m square and plaza (malls!) in January and I want to know from other guys about there experiences. So I not find this in FAQ. Guys who post comments like yours are not usefull! Save your time to post comments like this. It#s more usefull to give me some info or help. (RTFF is no help.) [/QUOTE]I can not say anything about blok M as I almost never go there.

As mentioned before it depends on your look, your ability to speak some bahasa and what style you use. If you want "normal" girls first realize that even though you are probably very good looking to them your background story needs to be a bit decent. You can not say you only came to indonesia twice if your bahasa is fluent, nor that you have not had an indonesian gf before if you work in jakarta.

Personally I would go to the electronic department in the more back to basic shopping malls (so not plaza) but for ex. Mangga dua, gajah mada, (artha gading) , supposedly looking for some pulsah or for no reason, sit down, show you are not in a hurry, talk a bit and have a smoke at the counter (if still allowed) with the most interesting girls. Usually they are in the 18-21 age area. In plaza or eX you can try the girls who sell the movie tickets or drinks for during the movie, they seem to be much approachable on a weekday without other people waiting behind you and they are usually good looking (must be the outfit.). They give their number quite fast as they know you can not hang out to long. It worked for me.

For richer independent girls who go hang around in shopping malls, well it is not my target, unless if I would stay in Jakarta for a few months so I can not give any input on that.

For shops, Gramedia seems to be the magic one, lot of girls, some privacy, easy to start an conversation, and they always curious what you are doing in there. Talk, ask for a drink together (you are in a shopping mall already remember. Lot of places to go)

Other then that try the datingwebsites, but that is already a special kind of pool you will be fishing in. Most had some previous western boyfriend before and liked it, others have had several at the same time. Depending on what you want I would say you can find many, but do not trust them to much.

Shopping mall working girls, visiting girls, online website girls. For me the time limit (how long you stay around) decides what is the best option.

On a side note, actually the easiest place to find, talk, pickup girls now I think of is Makassar (Sulawesi). They just come to you, in the airport, in any shopping mall, on the street (losari beach street) or in circle K. Every time I go there I meet girls and have a pleasant free time with them. And I really am not looking around there. In Jakarta you have to go out (traffic / hot) , in Makassar you just walk out.

Happy hunting.

Medanboy: Thank you for your great and detailed answer.

I'm heading to Jakarta tomorrow (Sunday) for the first time staying around the Sudirman area and will be looking for some Sunday afternoon fun. Ideally a massage with a very happy ending (I love a good fairy tale) at around 19:00 then onto a few bars that have some very friendly cute 20 something girls and if I find something I like a quick round of horizontal jogging but not at my hotel so would want a girl with a room or a short time hotel. Really looking for something like a Thai soapy followed by a gogo bar and hire a girl. I know Jakarta is not Bangkok but would appropriate some advice and pointers on were to go I'm only in town a few days on this trip but will have more trips coming up. I have heard a lot about Indonesian hospitality so want to try some.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Cooldoe; 1398315]Just an observation, as I never used the service.

I think for this kind of service depend on what you are looking for, timeline, your experience.

If it's you first time in jakarta, does not have a lot of time and you are totally green, then it might be a good service.

But if you already know jakarta scene, or got time to try out yourself, then might not be as good.

Although there will still be some benefit of course.[/QUOTE]Cooldoe,

I been going to Jarkata for over 10 yr now first time back in 2002 not a ISG member yet I just ask the taxi driver and hotel bellman for advice, they told me about Stadium, Alexis hotel Melawi and 2001, now closed no problem getting actions and taxi now is still very cheap compare to other city in Asia just don't be afraid to ask questions, this is a big city and many place to find action and I keep finding new one every trip.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1396253]KiJang. You are right on little miss red dress. She has an amazing body. In fact you and I almost met that night you took her home. I went over to talk to her as you were talking to her. She and I had setup for her to do my girlfriend that night but missed meeting her early enough. So you kinda cock blocked me.

Report:

Turns out the gf likes pussy! Especially if she is really horny. Back to BATS Friday night. Again set up to meet little miss red from above and she ran off with a regular. So it was looking like a night without a third. A little 25 yo sprite shows up all smiles. A lot of dirty dancing and seems really good. The GF actually took the lead to find out if she was up for a night. Turns out she had never been with a woman. Well that inspired the GF. Finally agree on a price and head to my place. The girl goes to the restroom and GF walks out in heels and a sexy new outfit. The girl was so nervous. Kept trying to start different conversations and renegotiate. GF made her strip and walk into the bedroom. Once there I worked to calm her as the gf pried apart her legs and ate at the Y. Turns out the girl ended up liking all of the attention. 3 hours later kicked her out and had more fun.

Damn I am one lucky guy!

Next weekend is already planned in Singapore.[/QUOTE]Nice one on the threesome.

Did I cock block you? She came on to me, not the other way around. I was just standing there with a wet shirt wondering how could this night get any worse? You can PM me for her BBM contact. Wait for couple of days before you PM as I have just paid the subscription few minutes ago.

[QUOTE=FuntimeMikey; 1398645]I'm heading to Jakarta tomorrow (Sunday) for the first time staying around the Sudirman area and will be looking for some Sunday afternoon fun. Ideally a massage with a very happy ending (I love a good fairy tale) at around 19:00 then onto a few bars that have some very friendly cute 20 something girls and if I find something I like a quick round of horizontal jogging but not at my hotel so would want a girl with a room or a short time hotel. Really looking for something like a Thai soapy followed by a gogo bar and hire a girl. I know Jakarta is not Bangkok but would appropriate some advice and pointers on were to go I'm only in town a few days on this trip but will have more trips coming up. I have heard a lot about Indonesian hospitality so want to try some.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes, Jakarta is not Bangkok, the scene is much different, in particular there is no place in Jakarta like Nana Plaza (and similar) in Bangkok.

For Thai soapy, your best bet is Kartika Spa, one short block south of the intersection of Jalan Mangga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wuruk. Unfortunately it's not near Jalan Sudirman, it's in the northern part of Jakarta, although it is on the same express bus line that goes on Sudirman and ends at Blok M. I often took the bus to Kartika mid-afternoon, quicker than a taxi during high-traffic periods.

Massage with a very happy ending? There's tons of places like that. Just off of Sudirman is Fortune Spa (across from Le Meridien Hotel). Near Blok M is the Maribaya Spa (6th floor of Hotel Melawai) , and of course there are a dozen or more spas in the four alleys where Kartika is located.

It would be a real surprise if you found a girl who brought you back to her room, that's pretty much unheard of in Jakarta. There are some short-time hotels, some of them dumps, read the forum to get more details. But it's no big deal to bring a girl to your hotel room, unless you are worried about a co-worker seeing you. Virtually every hotel in Jakarta is girl-friendly. RTFF for more details.

Look forward to reading your field reports.

[QUOTE=KiJang; 1398824]. You can PM me for her BBM contact. /QUOTE]KiJang, perhaps you could add 'BBM' to the 'Terms and Abbreviations List' as it is not in there.

Some possible meanings? : . Big Bottom Massage . Big Bottom Missionary . Bare Back Monger?

I heard a rumor that there's a pickup bar with working girls in the Mega Kunangan area. Can anyone clue me in?

I see some old reports here on Mistere, but I'm not sure that's what they were talking about.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Braaaam; 1399218]I heard a rumor that there's a pickup bar with working girls in the Mega Kunangan area. Can anyone clue me in?

I see some old reports here on Mistere, but I'm not sure that's what they were talking about.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi mate,

You must be referring to Loewy at Oakwood. Yes it is full of working girls but you have to be a regular there and establish contacts. Really high class.

Good luck.

[quote=fast eddie 48; 1397578]bule 2004,

i was staying at lokasari 2 weeks ago there are many place to find girl in the area, tc is gone but millie a pick up disco on the 7 th floor where tc used to be i pick up a girl there 300k stay 3 hr around mid night there are some very hot girl there that want one mil will not bargin at all, other place is oasis sauna and sierra, bintang mewar brothel with room upstair but quality is not good and you can go to hotel travel and stadium is walking distance, i don't missed tc at all don't why you guy like that place so much unless you just like **** girl.

fast eddie 48[/quote]it is not the ****d girls. anyway all will tell they are 17. around opening time (2. 00pm) till around 5. 00 hanging around there sipping a beer was real fun watching all kinds of people walking in and of course it was possible to have a pick up too. after 5:00 it gets crowded. anyway those days are bygone!

[QUOTE=Vlad Impaler; 1398991]

[QUOTE=KiJang; 1398824]. You can PM me for her BBM contact. /QUOTE]KiJang, perhaps you could add 'BBM' to the 'Terms and Abbreviations List' as it is not in there.

Some possible meanings? :. Big Bottom Massage. Big Bottom Missionary. Bare Back Monger?[/QUOTE]"Blackberry messenger", So long as indonesia continues to develop, research in motion will be in the game because BBM is huge in this country

[QUOTE=Pancha; 1399291]Hi mate,

You must be referring to Loewy at Oakwood. Yes it is full of working girls but you have to be a regular there and establish contacts. Really high class.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]There were a couple of stunners there the other day. Obviously working girls, but the guy to girl ratio there is always disappointing. The 2 stunners were absolutely flocked by guys most of the night. One of them I knew from the Hyatt in Singapore and she was trying to charge 700 sing dollars there. I'm not sure how much she was asking in Jakarta. I will say though that the girls did become available as they shot those guys down. (I guess those guys didn't want to pay their price.) But you had to be quick if you wanted to get in and talk to them because other guys moved in fast after others failed. I ended up seeing those same guys again later in the night at BATS, where they had more luck.

You can forget Mistere, it is closed down.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1398810]Cooldoe,

I been going to Jarkata for over 10 yr now first time back in 2002 not a ISG member yet I just ask the taxi driver and hotel bellman for advice, they told me about Stadium, Alexis hotel Melawi and 2001, now closed no problem getting actions and taxi now is still very cheap compare to other city in Asia just don't be afraid to ask questions, this is a big city and many place to find action and I keep finding new one every trip.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Confused here bro.

What exactly are you replying me for?

I was replying someone who ask about the sex tour.

[QUOTE=FuntimeMikey; 1398645]I'm heading to Jakarta tomorrow (Sunday) for the first time staying around the Sudirman area and will be looking for some Sunday afternoon fun. Ideally a massage with a very happy ending (I love a good fairy tale) at around 19:00 then onto a few bars that have some very friendly cute 20 something girls and if I find something I like a quick round of horizontal jogging but not at my hotel so would want a girl with a room or a short time hotel. Really looking for something like a Thai soapy followed by a gogo bar and hire a girl. I know Jakarta is not Bangkok but would appropriate some advice and pointers on were to go I'm only in town a few days on this trip but will have more trips coming up. I have heard a lot about Indonesian hospitality so want to try some.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well classic hotel have most of what you want.

The spa is in the lower floor, there's bar on the ground floor, brothel in 2nd and 5th floor, and hourly room on 7th floor.

Happy ending spa in sudirman you can go to fortune, delta or my place.

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie 48 [View Original Post]

Cooldoe,

I been going to Jarkata for over 10 yr now first time back in 2002 not a ISG member yet I just ask the taxi driver and hotel bellman for advice, they told me about Stadium, Alexis hotel Melawi and 2001, now closed no problem getting actions and taxi now is still very cheap compare to other city in Asia just don't be afraid to ask questions, this is a big city and many place to find action and I keep finding new one every trip.

Fast Eddie 48.

FE48, there's a movie came out a long time ago called "The secret life of Walter Mitty". You should watch it. It kind of sums you up pretty well.

OS

On Tuesday Top gun was reasonable busy, and with a bit of patience you spot attractive girls. Tiwy was standing at the back with two friends and I joined her. Very attractive slim body, narrow waist, nice bum.

Conversation and touching went well.

Back in the hotel the story was a bit different. Breasts super sensitive, I had to be patient to handle them and kiss them. With DATY she was super-super sensitive and she only let me kiss a few minutes. Sex was ordinary. Tiwy has two boys from a Norvegian ex. She comes to Top Gun 3-4 times a week. She needs the money but doesn't enjoy her job much. Maybe skinny girls are not the best choice in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1398275]I think you should into old post by bulai69, have not seen other report on mall hunting by other people in this forum.[/QUOTE]I've posted some in the remote past. But, truth to be told, I did the first steps, guided by the great Bulai 69. Plaza Senayan, Plaza Indonesia, Blok M plaza and of course Atrium were the hunting grounds. Again, it's all about eye contact and the following body language. Does she smile back when you smiled at her? Is she watching you from the corner of her eyes or even turns her head around to see where you are?

Of course speaking bahasa Indonesia, though basic, is a great help.

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1399493]Originally Posted by Fast Eddie 48 [View Original Post]

<SNIP

FE48, there's a movie came out a long time ago called "The secret life of Walter Mitty". You should watch it. It kind of sums you up pretty well.

OS[/QUOTE]This guy is a troll I put on my ignore list quite some time ago (he's still the only one there). He is also trolling other threads, like Malaysia.

Maybe if everybody just ignores him, this juvenile will go away.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1400248]This guy is a troll I put on my ignore list quite some time ago (he's still the only one there). He is also trolling other threads, like Malaysia.

Maybe if everybody just ignores him, this juvenile will go away.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]KO,

One a sorry A hole you put me on a Ignore list yet you read my post from other threads got nothing better to do or just a sorry ass don't get to travel much and now you can go away.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1399493]Originally Posted by Fast Eddie 48 [View Original Post]

<SNIP

FE48, there's a movie came out a long time ago called "The secret life of Walter Mitty". You should watch it. It kind of sums you up pretty well.

OS[/QUOTE]Looks like Jackson finally had enough of this guy. All his ramblings have disappeared.

Regards,

Ko

Tried my hand at something that has not worked before. And it worked. Was down at blok M Plaza and Blok M Square. Was approached a couple of times but since I was just exploring did not go for it. But then a shy 20 year old with no English caught my eye. Exchanged numbers and will take her to the movies. I got so many looks in the mall. Could have stayed days in there! I got those looks just in a tee and faded jeans. Well the 46 cm arms do help a bit. LOL

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1402550]Tried my hand at something that has not worked before. And it worked. Was down at blok M Plaza and Blok M Square. Was approached a couple of times but since I was just exploring did not go for it. But then a shy 20 year old with no English caught my eye. Exchanged numbers and will take her to the movies. I got so many looks in the mall. Could have stayed days in there! I got those looks just in a tee and faded jeans. Well the 46 cm arms do help a bit. LOL[/QUOTE]I have a 46 inch waist and also get many looks there. It's easy to meet girls at Blok M Square, Blok M Plaza and Pasaraya. Atrium is even easier. Personally, I prefer to pick up girls from discos and bars rather than malls though. I like to listen to some music and have a few beers before chosing a chick to take home. But if you are into mall pick ups, believe it or not, Grand Indonesia is a good mall for that these days. A lot of working girls live in those apartments behind that mall and hang out there. Those girls are a step above the quality you will find at Blok M malls.

Have been in Grand Indonesia and did not get any looks. What is your secret? The Blok M girls are a bit countrfied. Agreed there. So what to look for in G. Indonesia?

I am still trying for a Matahari girl. Really have a thing for those skirts. LOL

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1402612]Have been in Grand Indonesia and did not get any looks. What is your secret? The Blok M girls are a bit countrfied. Agreed there. So what to look for in G. Indonesia?

I am still trying for a Matahari girl. Really have a thing for those skirts. LOL[/QUOTE]To WTF,

Mall hunting is much better 10 yr ago I remember my first trip to Jarkata it was so easy to pick up freelancer in the mall even the high end mall like Plaza Indonesia, it was so easy to get a smile and phone number from the sales girl in the mall back in the old days, on my last trip last month I didn't see much action at the mall but Atrium and Senen I did see many girl smiling at me didn't approach them most are not very good looking and old.

Fast Eddie 48

walked into kartika one steaming hot early afternoon, looking for my regular wonderwoman. should have called in advance, because she was out until later. sat down for a coke (ice cold, straight from the bottle of course) , pondering about life's ups and downs. some overly pushy girls kept on trying to sell themselves and their virtues in, but i just ignored them while eyeing out the stock. some 30 girls in, mostly below 25 and mostly nice prospects. with some patience, even a few gems started trickling out from the back room. i was debating between two petite and a bit shy ones (always better!) , while it suddenly struck me: today i deserve a sandwich!

i double checked that they were close friends and happy to work together, and then the deal was easily negotiated, at 350 per girl per hour. 1 minute later we were all upstairs and undressed, and they ordered me to lie down on the bed, face down. rista, the oldest and hottest one, splashed some hot soapy water onto me, and climbed on top. she started sliding her rock hard butt up and down my back, making every joint crack and every muscle stretch like never before. lia, the youngest and most beautiful one, started working on my legs, first with her hands and later with her full body weight as well.

it did not take long before before this acrobatic wrestle sent me drifting on into a trance-like state of pleasure. both girls were shifting around and pushing and stretching me in so many ways that i mostly gave up trying to keep track of what was actually going on. at one stage i remember the squishing sound of a wet pussy kissing my neck, while the other chick was sitting with her legs underneath my thighs and her feet tickling my armpits, and at the same time kneading my rod and balls with both soapy hands.

shortly after they very rightfully told me i was no longer in a position to lie face down, and a similar but even more enjoyable ballet started on my front side. rista's wonderful tits felt like heaven between my thighs, and soon lia provided a great pussy view as well as a more-than-decent slippery hand job. another memorable moment was the incredible feeling of a double ass massage of my rod, the girls sliding up in revers from each side and rubbing their butts together for my almost over-the-top pleasure. an eternity later, well aware of the clock ticking away, they helped me on my feet (with all that soap around that's not an easy maneuvre!) , and we all washed off the soap in the shower, preparing for the planned grand finale.

a clean sheet was put on the rinsed bed, and then lia proceeded to put on the rubber in the now pretty standard but still enjoyable no-hands & oral way. she went on blowing me for a while, before she offered her lovely pussy in a cowgirl ride. having come quite a few times the last 12 hours (i'm considering sharing that story later on.) , i really did not foresee any popping, but had a hell of a time letting her work on it! we switched around quite a few positions, before rista finally took command. she ordered me on my back again, warning me that time was up very soon. without further ado, she ripped off the condom and put on a new one. then she pretty much inhaled me, and gave me what must have been one of the best covered blowjobs ever provided in the eastern hemisphere. she was all over me and hit all the right spots with just the right combination of friction, pressure, heat, speed and vacuum, and a couple of all-too-short minutes later i blew a load that made them both stare at me, asking how many weeks it had been since my last relief!

seconds later mama-san declared time's up, and we got dressed while chatting and joking. both girls seemed reasonably happy to be with me, and even though they were fishing for more, they happily accepted my (pre-planned) 100k each for tip.

place: kartika panti pijat.

girls: lia (20, two kids!) & rista (23)

bodies: petite, lia 7 (slighly saggy tits but great suckable nipples) , rista 9.

attitude: super friendly and near-gfe. 8.

soapy massage : a perfect 10!

cfs: lia 7.

cbj: lia 5, rista 10+

cost: 2*350k + 2*100k tip.

wir: sure, on any sweaty day.

monger on!

- peff

Great story! I find the sandwich at Kartika to be one of the best experiences in town. I'm not a big fan of the single action there, but the sandwich is awesome.

[QUOTE=Peff13;1403319]Monger on! - Peff[/QUOTE]Loved your report. Entertaining, and made me 'very' interested in trying that place when getting to Jakarta.

Currently never tried a threesome before, but am determined to bring that seed to fruition some time soon!

1) Just had a great Thursday afternoon and evening with JAD. If you have not used his services it is well worth it. My local language skills suck. JAD really goes out of his way to make sure you are not ripped off and that you get what you request. He even makes sure that dinner is what you like and even will deliver KFC while getting to know a new lovely in the back of a taxi. LOL A story for another time. JAD you are the man!

Also ask him if you have a fetish. Fat girls. Pregnant girls, etc. He can help.

2) Taxi ripoff. Jakarta traffic is known to be terrible and we always told to use the "blue" company. I grabbed one from my home and he asked Toll? Thinking that he would recommend the fastest route. I agreed. What should have been one hour was nearly 3 hours. As a driver he knows what roads are crowded at certain times. By taking the toll he headed right into heaviest traffic. What a great way to pad the meter! After the first 1. 5 hours I remembered a website that shows real time Jakarta traffic. It is well worth saving on your phone. Not sure if can post websites but just go to google and search Jakarta traffic camera. The first site shows a color coded ma of current traffic. I showed this to the driver and then told him where he could get off the toll and the direction that had less traffic. After yelling at him I am sure he was glad to get me out of his taxi.

[url]http://lewatmana[/url] Com. Jackson. Edit out the address if improper post. Thanks!

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1404314]2) Taxi ripoff. Jakarta traffic is known to be terrible and we always told to use the "blue" company. I grabbed one from my home and he asked Toll? Thinking that he would recommend the fastest route. I agreed. What should have been one hour was nearly 3 hours. As a driver he knows what roads are crowded at certain times. By taking the toll he headed right into heaviest traffic. What a great way to pad the meter![/QUOTE]Got into a Bluebird taxi after a lovely session at Malioboro (Thea. IDR350K local). My destination was Central (Pl. Indo) , but the cabbie avoided all the U-turns on Gajah Madah and took me all the way to Kota and back. I was fuming all the time, while he acted like he didn't know english. A 40 min ride in heavy traffic cost me 2 hrs of my precious time. I noted down the drivers details and fired off an email to the Bluebird group. I was quite surprised when I got a personalised reply that cabbie so and so will be called in for "interview and problems evaluation"!

Jakarta traffic can put off even the most hardcore of mongers from venturing out for an afternoon delight.

Hi,

I just arrived in Jakarta and staying at Manhattan. Any MP with plus close by? Maybe fishbowls?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

D

[QUOTE=NikonXShooter; 1406870]Hi,

I just arrived in Jakarta and staying at Manhattan. Any MP with plus close by? Maybe fishbowls?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

D[/QUOTE]You went to Moscow. While visiting Moscow, you requested for references and promised to post. You did not. You then were in UAE and requested for references. But did not post there too. Hope, you will post here. The Delta Spa is very close by. It's a bit far off to walk and too close to take a cab. It's in Jl. Gatot Subroto and Jl. Rasuna Said intersection. If you walk from Manhattan you can enter the place through their car parking area. Just ask the concierge and he'll guide you.

Have fun,

Cheers

[QUOTE=NikonXShooter; 1406870]Hi,

I just arrived in Jakarta and staying at Manhattan. Any MP with plus close by? Maybe fishbowls?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

D[/QUOTE]A few years ago I stayed at LeMeridian. And across the street and a block or so north was Fortuna. Some of the best looking women I have ever seen. It's a massage with a recessed table. I did three different sessions and each masseuse was amazing. Early 20s, perfect bodies, tits, yum. I did everything with them. And tried to fuck the hostess. I got her number and still have it so I may buzz her when I arrive in a few weeks. I'd lick her goodness all day long!

I am also researching for spas similar to Macau. I love thigh massages. I love the Korean bath! At 18 Sauna, the woman cleaning me up was Indonesian and hot as hell. I could hooked up later but did not. Regret it. Nothing more invigorating than having your cock stroked to full erection with the ladies parading around staring it down! Turkish bath similar.

Appreciate any 411.

Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio.

3. 8 km. 8 mins.

Jalan HR Rasuna Said and Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio.

Driving directions to Fortuna Cipta Sejahtera. PT.

Manhattan Hotel.

Jalan Professor Doktor Satrio, Jaksel.

Indonesia.

1. Head east toward Jalan Denpasar Raya

150 m.

2. Take the 1st right toward Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio

210 m.

3. Continue straight onto Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio

2. 1 km.

4. Continue onto Jalan Kyai Haji Mas Mansyur

500 m.

5. Continue straight to stay on Jalan Kyai Haji Mas Mansyur.

Destination will be on the left.

42 m.

Fortuna Cipta Sejahtera. PT.

Menara Batavia, JL. KH Mas Mansyur Kav 126, Jakarta.

Indonesia

[QUOTE=NikonXShooter; 1406870]Hi,

I just arrived in Jakarta and staying at Manhattan. Any MP with plus close by? Maybe fishbowls?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

D[/QUOTE]Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio.

3. 8 km. 8 mins.

Jalan HR Rasuna Said and Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio.

Driving directions to Fortuna Cipta Sejahtera. PT.

Manhattan Hotel.

Jalan Professor Doktor Satrio, Jaksel.

Indonesia.

1. Head east toward Jalan Denpasar Raya

150 m.

2. Take the 1st right toward Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio

210 m.

3. Continue straight onto Jalan Profesor Doktor Satrio

2. 1 km.

4. Continue onto Jalan Kyai Haji Mas Mansyur

500 m.

5. Continue straight to stay on Jalan Kyai Haji Mas Mansyur.

Destination will be on the left.

42 m.

Fortuna Cipta Sejahtera. PT.

Menara Batavia, JL. KH Mas Mansyur Kav 126, Jakarta.

Indonesia

[QUOTE=NikonXShooter; 1406870]Hi,

I just arrived in Jakarta and staying at Manhattan. Any MP with plus close by? Maybe fishbowls?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

D[/QUOTE]I hope you heed John Aldrich's advice and post something worthwhile. Manhattan itself has a massage service. But as far as I know, it is STRICTLY clean. As mentioned, Delta spa is available but that will only yield you a HJ (even though it can be a very good HJ). As mentioned by Vagigilover, Fortune Spa is not too far away (near Le Meridien) but last I heard, you can't pick the girl, merely specify what you're looking for (unless you already know the girl's spa number). What you may be looking for, should be available at Malioboro, Hotel Travel or Classic (further North and not much fun to get there if you go during rush hour) or Maribaya (to the South with much the same conditions). Alexis is an expensive option and there are mixed views as to the value for money. If you check certain websites, you can find listings of spas in Jakarta. It took me less than a minute to google this list:

1) Sun City Luxury Spa.

2) Alexis.

3) Malioboro Hotel & Spa.

4) Fortune.

5) Delta Spa.

6) Sumo Spa.

7) Beverly Hills spa.

8) MyPlace.

9) Emporium.

10) Sands Spa.

MD II

Add Cherry Spa at Lokasari to that list. You can definitely get full service there if you want. It's a "legit" massage place where the girls want a 400k tip for full service at the end.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1407385]Add Cherry Spa at Lokasari to that list. You can definitely get full service there if you want. It's a "legit" massage place where the girls want a 400k tip for full service at the end.[/QUOTE]Hmm they usually charge 300k for full service, maybe the price went up or they charge you more because you are a foreigner.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1407543]Hmm they usually charge 300k for full service, maybe the price went up or they charge you more because you are a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Good to know. I have only been once and that was just recently. I went with a couple of local indo guys who go there fairly often. They did tell me that sometimes the girls will go for 300k, but that they usually paid 400k. I just offered 400k straight up because of that. The girl I had provided very good service that was well worth the 400k, so I can't complain. I guess the best thing to do would be try to nego them to 300k then if they were great, give them the extra 100k.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1407543]Hmm they usually charge 300k for full service, maybe the price went up or they charge you more because you are a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Cooldoe,

I check out Cherry on my last trip the girl there are just average not even worth the 300 k, Hotel travel is just down the road more girl and quality is much better no need to go to the small sauna.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1407872]Cooldoe,

I check out Cherry on my last trip the girl there are just average not even worth the 300 k, Hotel travel is just down the road more girl and quality is much better no need to go to the small sauna.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Well smoothy is the one recommend the place.

There are some looker of course, but travel definitely have more and better girl.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1407273]snip. .

1) Sun City Luxury Spa.

2) Alexis.

3) Malioboro Hotel & Spa.

4) Fortune.

5) Delta Spa.

6) Sumo Spa.

7) Beverly Hills spa.

8) MyPlace.

9) Emporium.

10) Sands Spa.[/QUOTE]I have tried most of these places, but for my money the best option is Grand Comfort at the intersection of Mangga Besar and Gunung Sehari. There are more than 20 chicks available, and you can choose for the screen or (on weekends) by meeting them in person (cute little uniforms!) on the second floor. Good value for money at Rp. 300k full service. 90 minutes.

Bule2004

I went to the Blok last night and found Sportsman's closed. Better get to the rest of the bars before they shut down too.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe; 1408236]Well smoothy is the one recommend the place.

There are some looker of course, but travel definitely have more and better girl.[/QUOTE]Hey, my chick was pretty cute! Great service.

Of course places like Hotel Travel and Classic and Malioboro have more girls and better looking ones. It's rare you get an actual massage there as well though.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1409072]Hey, my chick was pretty cute! Great service.

Of course places like Hotel Travel and Classic and Malioboro have more girls and better looking ones. It's rare you get an actual massage there as well though.[/QUOTE]Well I agree with you bro.

There are some good gem there and you will get good massage.

I was replying Fast Eddie 48 that said they girl in cherry not worth it.

I think somehow I got caught in the middle of a cock fight here

No fight here. I am not saying Cherry is any great place. Just another place added to the list in case you've tried the rest and want to try another.

On another note, I actually had 2 good experiences in a row at Classic lately. That brings the ratio to about 1 good experience for every 5 visits. Things are looking up there!

So I had started seeing an extra girlfriend. Very very hot and not a game player. Well turns out she also wants to try girls. So my question was. Should I intro her to girlfriend number one or look at other options. The second choice obviously. I passed two girls on the street near a club and strike up a conversation. Cousins in town for the clubs. They are from Bogor and like my smile. Exchange numbers. I text the really really really really really (get the idea) hot one and suggest a threesome with girlfriend number 2. She agrees and takes the train. Remember that this is all done without any English or Bahasa on my part.

I plan on dinner and then some fun. Everyone is late. Traffic. Girlfriend shows up and within a minute the other is asking for me to cover taxi fare. I go out to pay and she has brought her cousin with her! My first thoughts? YES! My second thoughts. Not enough food for dinner and harder to work with 3 girls and all of the nerves. I invite them in and they kick me out of the kitchen and finish cooking dinner. In the mean time I am knocking at my neighbor's house for eggs." Excuse me can you lend me a few eggs? I am having an orgy and do not have enough for breakfast."

Dinner is done and I pick a movie. Has a few hot sex scenes and a lesbian scene. We are watching the movie and I start with massaging all of the feet. That progresses to a leg massage and so many to massage I need a helped and soon all clothing is gone and hands are massaging each other. It is then suggested for me to get a massage. Lying on the floor and shorts are stripped off with 3 girls around me. It really is such a bad day in Jakarta. The extra cousin starts with what she called the ice cream cone. She is soon joined by each of the other two. Sometimes three mouths and sometimes two. None had any experiences with a girl so that was really fun. Not full action but licking and kissing and touching.

We ended in the bedroom where every single last law of nature was broken. Positions of girls on top of girls and me sometimes on the top and sometimes on the bottom. The really hot one would not try many of the girl on girl items and made many noises of shock as she watched. But once pipe was laid she was asking for more.

A memorable moment was with all of us asleep in the bed. King size really had a new meaning last night. We did a bit more in the morning. They were compensated and kicked out. I went into to work. A smile on my face but oh so tired. I am typing this now with an ice pack on my junk. A bad day in Jakarta. Oh the photo is girlfriend number 2.

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1409425]So I had started seeing an extra girlfriend. Very very hot and not a game player. Well turns out she also wants to try girls.

I need a helped and soon all clothing is gone and hands are massaging each other. It is then suggested for me to get a massage. Lying on the floor and shorts are stripped off with 3 girls around me. It really is such a bad day in Jakarta. The extra cousin starts with what she called the ice cream cone. She is soon joined by each of the other two. Sometimes three mouths and sometimes two. None had any experiences with a girl so that was really fun. Not full action but licking and kissing and touching.

We ended in the bedroom where every single last law of nature was broken. Positions of girls on top of girls and me sometimes on the top and sometimes on the bottom. The really hot one would not try many of the girl on girl items and made many noises of shock as she watched. But once pipe was laid she was asking for more.

A memorable moment was with all of us asleep in the bed. King size really had a new meaning last night. We did a bit more in the morning. They were compensated and kicked out. I went into to work. A smile on my face but oh so tired. I am typing this now with an ice pack on my junk. A bad day in Jakarta. Oh the photo is girlfriend number 2.[/QUOTE]You lucky lucky man. Can I be your understudy? I will willingly take up duty should you be incapacitated as seems to be the case.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1409748]You lucky lucky man. Can I be your understudy? I will willingly take up duty should you be incapacitated as seems to be the case.

MD II[/QUOTE]Master diver. Thank you for the compliment. Coming from you it really is an honor. Ever out and want to meet up let me know.

The good news is the ice pack worked and the swelling went down. Time to start over. Plans are: girlfriend one tomorrow night at BATS for a 3some and girlfriend 2 Sat. Dress shopping and clubbing for a different threesome.

I think I need to stock up on ice packs.

I agree with MD II, nice experience.

I want to be your understudy man

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1409853]Master diver. Thank you for the compliment. Coming from you it really is an honor. Ever out and want to meet up let me know.

The good news is the ice pack worked and the swelling went down. Time to start over. Plans are: girlfriend one tomorrow night at BATS for a 3some and girlfriend 2 Sat. Dress shopping and clubbing for a different threesome.

I think I need to stock up on ice packs.[/QUOTE]The best thing is to let your body recover properly. We must look after our health. Let the understudy take the strain - for the sake of your health of course. ;)

MD II

[QUOTE=Pikefish;1409019]I went to the Blok last night and found Sportsman's closed. Better get to the rest of the bars before they shut down too.[/QUOTE]What? I have not been to jakarta for 2 years but I love the place and will be returning later this year. Is the sportsmans closed? What about the other establishments on that street? The sportys made the best damn pizza in indonesia and one of the best I've had anywhere!

[QUOTE=FieldMouse;1409941]What? I have not been to jakarta for 2 years but I love the place and will be returning later this year. Is the sportsmans closed? What about the other establishments on that street? The sportys made the best damn pizza in indonesia and one of the best I've had anywhere![/QUOTE]See my reply to this question in the "General report" thread.

Regards,

Ko

Just returned from a short trip in Asia and I went to the "Classic Spa" in Jakarta. I saw this lovely PRC named Fifi and got quoted for RP1. 7K, I thought it was pretty high but they said that if they're from a different country it's the normal price. So I went for it thinking I would get a great service and oh boy I was very wrong. The only thing that I would rate an 8 is her face and body but overall experience is a 5, so if you happen to go to "Classic Spa" avoid the girl from PRC named Fifi.

Ended up shopping with girlfriend 2. The idea. A sexy dress for a night out. Got the dress but needed the shoes. Found those. For some reason we never made back out of my house.

The photo tells it all. Check out the shoes.

[QUOTE=JkMoore777;1410381]if you happen to go to "Classic Spa" avoid the girl from PRC named Fifi.[/QUOTE]Cheers for the heads up. Not once have I had a memorable performance with a PRC. It has made me wary of ever going for them again, even though I'm often attracted to the fair skinned cute young petite ones that occasionally appear. Following the initial impulse buy based on looks / cuteness, the performance has been a total let down. Cold personality, complaining, etc. If there is one thing I do like, it is that few shave completely. I like a little tuft left there. It is so much better than completely shaved, and over in Thailand where I am now, that is almost impossible to find (well, with all the ones I've been with anyway).

Was at a loose end for one night and decided to head over there. Actually couldn't be bothered to RTFF as I figured that they were used to 'our kind', and I would be alright. Cab deposited me at the door, the door closest to the main drag and in I went.

Got told about the cover charge, given a numbered bracelet, and upstairs I went. Parked myself in front of the bat at a 4 top table, asked for a beer and surveyed my surroundings. I was instantly mobbed by 5 or 6 girls in the same powder-blue uniform, but declined their ministrations. They then went up on stage and were topless by song 3. Bluntly they need not have bothered. Looked a lot nicer with the uniforms on!

A young-ish papa came over and asked if I was interested and what I was interested in. I asked for locals, and within a mnute he had a line-up of about 7 ready to go. I saw other line ups and there appeared to be Europeans (CIS?) , PRCs and assorted others. His pricing was either 800 or 1M, and it seemed pretty arbitrary. I chose a 800K girl, solely on the grounds that she 1.) had the biggest boobs and 2.) he said that she spoke English. Now, this report now falls apart as I failed to remember her number. Her name, like in matters, was Intani.

Suffice it to say that Intani (23 years old) pretty well rocked my world. I would call her oral good, but not great, bit her work further down was just world class. So good I made her go at the rimming for a good solid 10 minutes before I declared it fuck time. Now I am a bit of an old fart, but if I can get a woman to come then I am pretty happy. And she was too."Indonesian boy not fuck good" she said."I come for you." Well, if it was an act it was a good one. My reward was to get a pretty robust fuck from her with some hair pulling and spanking thrown in to spice it up a little. I also got my requested facial finish. And it was a good one too.

Total damage for her, room. 3 beers (one hers and one mine) was around 1. 3, and I tipped her 100. She has been texting me since and I may get an after hours treat next time I am there.

[QUOTE=New Imhotep;1387088]Great summary Smoothy, however I disagree about X2 and other young crowds discos as a great pick up points, most of the crowd is close groups of indo Chinese, I've been mostly to X2 and couldn't find girls approachable, few ugly hookers there but then better to go to CJ and BATS, every time I go to X2 I see some handsome good looking guys trying to get girls with no success. I prefer arabic disco as it is cheaper and you can find ok looking girls, price bet 500 to 1 juta.[/QUOTE]Was in BATs on 3 nights ago and last night. I was quite impressed at how friendly and fun the girls are even though I am not young or good looking. Both times, danced, chatted and laughed with the girls. I find Jakarta more relaxed and fun than other cities in Asia. At BATs though, the pricing is pretty firm. After having good rapport with one girl, I asked her about 500K for the night which she turned down cold. I did not want to go much higher cause I had been spoiled by Blok M. In the end, took back a girl for 800K who was very accomodating and did everything with a great attitude. I was expecting less and got more than anticipated. But, in the end, being a cheap-skate, I think I still prefer Blok M. I have been to X2 and ran out of there as it is so plastic and ostentatious. Unless you are young, rich, and good looking, don't waste your time with these high end discos.

Hi guys. Taking girlfriend 2 out for a night at a club. She has actually never been to one! Looking for one that is fun and MOST IMPORTANTLY pick a girl to go home with us. I am in the south and not a lot of clubs under my belt.

Choices (add to it please)

X2-heard here and other sites. Plastic people. Mostly indo Chinese. Very few working. I have never been.

BATS-I love it but too old for her I think.

Red Square-Fun for people watching but never picked one up here.

Stadium-never been here. Is it safe?

Advice gentlemen. You have 5. 6 hours to answer this!

HELP!

There are so many hot clubs in town, but not a lot where you will be able to easily pick up a chick for a threesome. Maybe try CJ's at the Hotel Mulia. If you are wanting to take a girl from there, they are about the same price as BATS girls.

Yomama99,

Can you give me some tipps where and how you get some girls at Blok M? Any special place in this area? Any shops or something like that?

[QUOTE=Hansm; 1413084]Yomama99,

Can you give me some tipps where and how you get some girls at Blok M? Any special place in this area? Any shops or something like that?[/QUOTE]Here's a very important tip. RTFF.

Cheers

[QUOTE=John Aldrich; 1413179]Here's a very important tip. RTFF.

Cheers[/QUOTE]John: I already do and we have the discussion here already. But exspecially for you: I'm NOT interested in OLD informations! Why is this so hard to understand? Maybe you should also read this thread here so you must not give me your "usefull hint". There was a guy wich checked out the Blok M area in the last days. So I'm interested in latest (!) tipps.

But anyway.

Thank you for your text my friend John.

[quote=hansm; 1413084]yomama99,

can you give me some tipps where and how you get some girls at blok m? any special place in this area? any shops or something like that?[/quote]hmm, normally information about blok m is closely guarded. where did you hear about blok m?

it is not somewhere that many people know about. i will help you with some information about this place on condition you never repeat.

firstly blok m has recently been heavily targetted by the sharia police, now don't be alarmed, that doesn't mean you can't indulge yourself, but it is important to learn the system of signals that is employed there to fool these puritanical nutcases.

you should ony arrive by silver bird taxi, this alone will confirm your status and lets them know you are not to be trifled with.

upon exiting the taxi you should make the first signal. this is a discreet rep001ch around your testicular area. not too overt but by doing this you will signal to all watching the "i need a woman" signal. just a sly scratch as if you were at your mother in law's garden party. the indonesians accumulated around the place may not acknowledge you but they will have noticed. don't be fooled by the nonchalance.

top gun will be your safest address but you must know the current code for entry. last week it was stamping your foot upon entering first doorway. codes for next 30 days are as follows.

24/31 april. must carry sheet of a4 paper upon entry.

1/8may turn in circle after door closes after entering.

9/16 may, you must state to doorman the. special codewords "ada wareea"

16 may onwards is tba.

once inside it is important not to confuse the girls who will be smiling at you with the sharia police. this force is very sophisticated in it's modus operandi and they use decoy girls regularly to entrap punters. your best path is to look for the unsmiling girls that are playing it cool. sidle up to them and once again give the "i need a woman" signal. but this time do it in a much more pronounced way, almost exaggerating the action. this should confirm you as a bona fide isg member and i am certain from that point that you will be looked after. isg members automatically get the 3rd hole option as long as you have clearly identified yourself with the secret signals.

hope this helps.

regards, os

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1413438]Hmm, normally information about Blok M is closely guarded. Where did you hear about Blok M?

It is not somewhere that many people know about. I will help you with some information about this place on condition you never repeat.

<SNIP

Top Gun will be your safest address but you must know the current code for entry. Last week it was stamping your foot upon entering first doorway. Codes for next 30 days are as follows.

24/31 April. Must carry sheet of A4 paper upon entry.

1/8May Turn in circle after door closes after entering.

9/16 May, You must state to doorman the. Special codewords "Ada Wareea"

16 May onwards is TBA.

<SNIP

Hope this helps.

Regards, OS[/QUOTE]OS,

Did anyone ever tell you that you have a cruel streak in you?

Regards,

Ko

I didn't think that was cruel, I thought that was pretty good.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1413596]I didn't think that was cruel, I thought that was pretty good.[/QUOTE]Better than cool. One of the best posts I have read on ISG.

Before you get into the nut scratching routine,check this out.

[url]http://www.jakartablokm.com/characters/girls.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Hansm; 1413186]John: I already do and we have the discussion here already. But exspecially for you: I'm NOT interested in OLD informations! Why is this so hard to understand? Maybe you should also read this thread here so you must not give me your "usefull hint". There was a guy wich checked out the Blok M area in the last days. So I'm interested in latest (!) tipps.

But anyway.

Thank you for your text my friend John.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Machakw; 1413633]Before you get into the nut scratching routine, check this out.

[url]http://www.jakartablokm.com/characters/girls.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Your link leads to the old stories by the Reveller, sorely missed.

The Blok M Diaries haven't been updated since 2005 or so, unfortunately.

Nevertheless, the description of the various types is remarkably up to date.

Regards,

Ko

Gents.

I'm planning first trip to Jakarta. I would appreciate a bit of advice as I have been going through the older posts and I have not seen what I was looking for:

1) Which of the Starwood Hotels (Keraton at The Plaza, Le Méridien) is GF friendly? Usually I prefer my own apartment but I need to use up some points.

2) Which are the best current club / bars for non P4P hook up's currently?

Respect.

YP

[QUOTE=Yellowpaul; 1414016]Gents.

I'm planning first trip to Jakarta. I would appreciate a bit of advice as I have been going through the older posts and I have not seen what I was looking for:

1) Which of the Starwood Hotels (Keraton at The Plaza, Le Méridien) is GF friendly? Usually I prefer my own apartment but I need to use up some points.

2) Which are the best current club / bars for non P4P hook up's currently?

Respect.

YP[/QUOTE]You have no worries at all at Le Meridien. They won't even look at you. Some old hags will even be sitting in the bar for you all night long. Take a girl from the club downstairs and head upstairs to your room (get a room on the club tower side is easier ). Is there anywher in Jakarta that isn't girl firendly? I never found one that wasnt.

[QUOTE=Yellowpaul; 1414016]Gents.

I'm planning first trip to Jakarta. I would appreciate a bit of advice.

1) Which of the Starwood Hotels (Keraton at The Plaza, Le Méridien) is GF friendly? .

Respect.

YP[/QUOTE]Le Méridien definitely is girl friendly. I haven't been there in two years but 30 Club (Tiga Puluh) in the downstairs at Le Meridien was good to me. I don't know about other hunting grounds. Red Square seems to be a draw for young expats. Google up clubs Jarkarta Indonesia and look for the "Best Nightlife" link.

TTG

Does anyone know any hotel in Jakarta that is NOT girl friendly? I don't think there is one.

[QUOTE=Yellowpaul; 1414016]Gents.

I'm planning first trip to Jakarta. I would appreciate a bit of advice as I have been going through the older posts and I have not seen what I was looking for:

1) Which of the Starwood Hotels (Keraton at The Plaza, Le Méridien) is GF friendly? Usually I prefer my own apartment but I need to use up some points.

2) Which are the best current club / bars for non P4P hook up's currently?

Respect.

YP[/QUOTE]If price does not matter for you go with keraton, definitely a great location. It's an apartment hotel, so you will not miss the feel of the apartment.

Both location is girl friendly.

Depending on your preference and age, for regular people hook up you can try immigrant (close to keratorn) , Skye (not far from keraton as well) , X2, blowfish and dragonfly. All the last three is closer to le merridien compared to keraton.

4play at alexis also very popular and the plus side you can go up to the spa f you want service.

Golden crown is another good pick up location with a lot of wg and party girl.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1414114]Does anyone know any hotel in Jakarta that is NOT girl friendly? I don't think there is one.[/QUOTE]Sofyan chain of hotel, it's a syariah hotel

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1414129]Sofyan chain of hotel, it's a syariah hotel[/QUOTE]So resumably we can't ask them about a "joiner fee" or ask Front Desk to send up a bottle of Johnnie and a few mixers. LOL. Got to love how some of the good muslim folk choose to stay in a good syariah hotel then later you see them partying it up in spas like the best. Nothing like a little hypocracy from out muslim brothers.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1414133]So resumably we can't ask them about a "joiner fee" or ask Front Desk to send up a bottle of Johnnie and a few mixers. LOL. Got to love how some of the good muslim folk choose to stay in a good syariah hotel then later you see them partying it up in spas like the best. Nothing like a little hypocracy from out muslim brothers.[/QUOTE]Hypocrisy is something from all religions, my friend. Look at all those American TV-reverends caught whoring and gambling, homophobic (because of their religion) politicians who later turn out to be gay, extreme christians (in my country for example) who preach abstention but have an unusually high percentage of children born between 4 and 5 months after marriage, and so on and so on.

Regards,

Ko

[quote=koperen karel; 1414367]hypocrisy is something from all religions, my friend. look at all those american tv-reverends caught whoring and gambling, homophobic (because of their religion) politicians who later turn out to be gay, extreme christians (in my country for example) who preach abstention but have an unusually high percentage of children born between 4 and 5 months after marriage, and so on and so on.

regards,

ko[/quote]and of course not forgetting all those ****s hiding in the catholic church, preying on little boys.

regards,

ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1414367]Hypocrisy is something from all religions, my friend. .

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]You are so right. And as noted especially the peadophilic priests. What a mess. There should be an anti religion religion LOL

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1414457]There should be an anti religion religion LOL[/QUOTE]And a special hotel for those who want to follow that faith.

[QUOTE=David_33;1413600]Better than cool. One of the best posts I have read on ISG.[/QUOTE]I think it's too cruel & OfSw is a right so & so.

I make it a point to read the post every day, friggin hilarious.

Cheers

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1414457]You are so right. And as noted especially the peadophilic priests. What a mess. There should be an anti religion religion LOL[/QUOTE]The first thing thats comes on my mind is "Ordo Templi Orientis" or "Church of S".

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1414457]You are so right. And as noted especially the peadophilic priests. What a mess. There should be an anti religion religion LOL[/QUOTE]As a well known writer in the Netherlands (Jan Blokker, for all Dutchmen in here) once wrote: "I am such a fanatical heathen that I often consider founding my own sect."

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1414639]The first thing thats comes on my mind is "Ordo Templi Orientis" or "Church of S".[/QUOTE]Hmm, I remember that from my teenage years,"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law". The founder of that religion was quite open about his mongering activities, too.

Regarding these NON-girl friendly hotels in Indonesia, my experience is that they are usually cheap hotels in seedy areas, just the sort of place where you'd expect to find a short-time hotel. But for some reason, either marketing or ideological, they decide to go for a different market segment. For example, there's a hotel on Jalan Blora, surrounded by dangdut bars, that makes a big deal out of being a syariah hotel. Even on Jaksa, more than half of the hotels won't let Indonesian girls stay with bule guys. If you go three stars and up, it's rarely a problem. While there's huge piles of religious hypocrisy in Indonesia, I think it's more business than anything else. I knew a Haji who ran a hotel in Puncak, it used to be half full of East Javanese ayam, then he decided he thought he could make more money out of family groups, so he sent them all off back to the village.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two; 1414944],"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law".

The founder of that religion was quite open about his mongering activities, too.[/QUOTE]Crowley, wasn't it?

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1414944]Even on Jaksa, more than half of the hotels won't let Indonesian girls stay with bule guys.[/QUOTE]Rather like that KSR and Soi Rambutri in Bangkok, with their 'No Thai Guest' policy.

Anybody can help me where I can find girls to Jakarta for body-massage and other or to bring they to hotel.

[QUOTE=Bangkok11;1415171]Anybody can help me where I can find girls to Jakarta for body-massage and other or to bring they to hotel.[/QUOTE]Please go ahead and read the thread. The info you require is there.

[QUOTE=Bangkok11;1415171]Anybody can help me where I can find girls to Jakarta for body-massage and other or to bring they to hotel.[/QUOTE]Your entire forum contribution has been to ask, more or less, the same question in Kuala Lumpur, Bali, Jakarta and Singapore. It's no wonder you're not getting any decent response from other members. RTFF.

MD II

Former pickup from BATS sent sms that she had a willing friend.

A few more sms to determine pricing and they were both at my door.

Turns out they were both very much into displaying their wares (I promised no faces) for the camera.

A couple of my fav shots here:

[QUOTE=Bangkok11;1415171]Anybody can help me where I can find girls to Jakarta for body-massage and other or to bring they to hotel.[/QUOTE]Do a search for "Kartika" spa or else RTFF

[QUOTE=Yellowpaul; 1414016]Gents.

I'm planning first trip to Jakarta. I would appreciate a bit of advice as I have been going through the older posts and I have not seen what I was looking for:

1) Which of the Starwood Hotels (Keraton at The Plaza, Le Méridien) is GF friendly? Usually I prefer my own apartment but I need to use up some points.

2) Which are the best current club / bars for non P4P hook up's currently?

Respect.

YP[/QUOTE]Long-time readers of ISG will remember that esteemed senior member Bulai69's favorite place to stay in Jakarta was always Le Meridien. One recent post described a mid-day situation where one young lady had just left his room and was walking to the elevator when she walked past a second young lady who was heading to his room.

The Keraton at The Plaza is also GF

[QUOTE=Frankie555; 1415847]Former pickup from BATS sent sms that she had a willing friend.

A few more sms to determine pricing and they were both at my door.

Turns out they were both very much into displaying their wares (I promised no faces) for the camera.

A couple of my fav shots here:[/QUOTE]Great quality views.

If the service was of the same level, you must have been happy in the morning.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1416221]Great quality views.

If the service was of the same level, you must have been happy in the morning.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Happy, and Bloody exhausted. Have repeated on a few occasions now.

Have a few more pics of the pair which will resize and post.

Having difficulty logging in from my PC though! Does anyone else experience that?

Site responds with "thanks for logging in" but in fact does not log you in!

Regards

[QUOTE=Frankie555; 1416379]Happy, and Bloody exhausted. Have repeated on a few occasions now.

Have a few more pics of the pair which will resize and post.

Having difficulty logging in from my PC though! Does anyone else experience that?

Site responds with "thanks for logging in" but in fact does not log you in!

Regards[/QUOTE]No problem, as you can see. Time is 21:56 on April 29th in the Netherlands.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Frankie555; 1416379]Having difficulty logging in from my PC though! Does anyone else experience that?

Site responds with "thanks for logging in" but in fact does not log you in![/QUOTE]ISG is blocked on many servers in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=David_33;1416981]ISG is blocked on many servers in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Yes. You figure out that you have not logged in. After you enter you password and username, you are welcomed. And it navigates to the page where you figure out you have not logged in. I also have the same problem. After you are welcomed and when it leads you to the next page where you figure out that you have not logged in, just, click photo gallery or front page. It leads you there and shows that you ave logged in with your name on the left hand top corner, where it usually is.

Cheers

[QUOTE=David_33;1416981]ISG is blocked on many servers in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]The good news is, ISG is not blocked using the Wifi from most hotels. At least not in the ones that I have been staying in: Aryaduta, Ambahara, Lumire, Mulia, Grand Kemang, Manhattan, etc. I can see it only blocked when I try to access it using XL as a mobile provider for my Ipad. So I guess, it is only blocked by some providers, not all.

BTW, something to amaze and entertain the girls with: the luna maya video with ariel. They absolutely love to watch it, they go wild. The poor bloke has been to prison for it, but it is still available on some sites, like youporn. Just type in 'luna maya' in the search field, cheers.

Looks like I planned things a bit wrong this time. I arrive 5 August in Jakarta and Idul Fitri (end of the fasting) is 8 August.

Does anyone know if the clubs in kota (Like Stadium and Millenium) are still open on 5-7 August? ?

Thanks,

Mark

[QUOTE=MarkIII; 1418361]Looks like I planned things a bit wrong this time. I arrive 5 August in Jakarta and Idul Fitri (end of the fasting) is 8 August.

Does anyone know if the clubs in kota (Like Stadium and Millenium) are still open on 5-7 August? ?

Thanks,

Mark[/QUOTE]Wow bad timing bro,

Some location still open, but depend their internal policy so not sure yet this year

[QUOTE=MarkIII; 1418361]Looks like I planned things a bit wrong this time. I arrive 5 August in Jakarta and Idul Fitri (end of the fasting) is 8 August.

Does anyone know if the clubs in kota (Like Stadium and Millenium) are still open on 5-7 August? ?

Thanks,

Mark[/QUOTE]If I am not wrong, usually clubs are closed during ramadhan. Only clubs which located within a hotel can operate. So Classic Club, Malioboro, Alexis are still open, maybe untill 6 August. On 7 untill 11 August mostly all are closed.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen; 1417858]The good news is, ISG is not blocked using the Wifi from most hotels. At least not in the ones that I have been staying in: Aryaduta, Ambahara, Lumire, Mulia, Grand Kemang, Manhattan, etc. I can see it only blocked when I try to access it using XL as a mobile provider for my Ipad. So I guess, it is only blocked by some providers, not all.

BTW, something to amaze and entertain the girls with: the luna maya video with ariel. They absolutely love to watch it, they go wild. The poor bloke has been to prison for it, but it is still available on some sites, like youporn. Just type in 'luna maya' in the search field, cheers.[/QUOTE]Some (many?) hotels also provide cable connection in the room and this also provides good access. I tried this in hotels in Jakarta, Malang and Surabaya.

Regards,

Ko

May 2nd, came in o so late. 2:30am show up at the hotel. Earlier at the airport. Things went smooth enough. $25 for arrival visa. It was a 45 minute taxi ride from the airport to the Mustika Hotel. This hotel is only three months old. Or at least the name is. The building has been there much longer than that. Myself and three buddies split the $25 hotel taxi. It was latel. Called it a night. A couple of hours later and I was up. I asked for a wake up call at 8am to have the included breakfast. The call never came. Ooops! Good thing for me I set my alarm. Actually, the breakfast was not half bad. Some authentic items on the plate. Tasty. Later went to the Mengga Dua Mall and picked up a cheapy cell phone. I don't normally get one, but my buddies have been ragging me for the last three countries. $25 gave me a cell phone and what was supposed to be 2 hours of calls. Yeah right! About fifty messages and it was done. About 8:30pm we headed to Eastern Promises. Nothing to report there. Bunch of guys drinking and smoking. I had three beers for $12. We met up with another partner and then we headed to Block M. I heard a lot about this place and all I can say is. What a hugh let down. Went to D's bar for a drink. Not much there. Went to My Bar. Empty. Then went to Top Gun. I met Diana, a 20 year old. One thing nice I can say about Indonesian women. A lot of them have thick legs and a big a* Boohya! My kinda women. The smoking in these places can kill a crack head! I don't smoke, well, unless I'm on fire. It was killing me. So I ask Diana how much and she says. Short time? I said yes. She said up to you. I said ok. 300, 000 rupia. About $30, right? She said ok. But she asked if I would pay for the return taxi. Sure! And off we went. I made the mistake of not getting a Blue Bird taxi. Yeah, my driver was lost. He stopped about four times asking directions. The ride cost me $6 instead of the $5 it took us to get there. Once in the room I pull out my camera. I normally negotiate photos up front. But I didn't this time. Don't ask me why. So she starts bitching about the camera. I talk her into half a dozen photos. After the oral part, she started in with the you finish now. I jumped all over that and told her to knock that off! She stopped. When I paid her she acted up and said. 600, 000. I said oh no! I never pay that much. Then I reminded her about the conversation we had at the bar. So I gave her the 300, 000 and 50, 000 for the taxi. She then threw in her sister and said she gets money for helping with the negotiations. I said no! I didn't boom boom your sister. She bitched and moaned all the way to the curb. Hasta la vista! Welcome to Jakarta, my first visit. Oh, I forgot to mention that the ISG website was "broken". Funny, all the other websites I visited worked. Albeit, they were not sex websites.

Up at 8am and have the hotel breakfast. It was weak. So I head back to bed. Up at 12:30. Go to the Atrium with one of my buddies. Just wanted to have a look. I did get a lot of smiles when I smiled at the girls there. There was a good vibe there. Went to hotel and rested, again. Wow, I think I was jet lagged. After my nap, one of the young managers was trying to set me up with a girl. I told him 300, 000 short time. He said ok and about an hour later he shows up at my door with a thirty something looking woman, with a nice big dark mole on her nose. Yeah, the best part was she wanted 500, 000 for short time. I wouldn't do her period! I said thanks, but I will pass. And this is why I don't like "blind dates". About 8pm one of my buddies hits me up to go to Classic Hotel. Ok, I meet him there. Went straight to the 5th floor. $4 to get in. Which is applied to your bill that you pay when you leaving. There were a lot of young and pretty girls there and because it was early. Very few guys. Yeah, that didn't last long. My buddy took a girl. 320, 000, short time, dine in only. Not my style. I had the one beer for $6. While I was waiting for my one buddy to finish, another one shows up. Shortly after he shows up, they go bar hopping and I made a bee line for Top Gun. i met another Diana (i know, what are the chances?) she is 25, bubbly, lots of smiles, all over me. she wanted 600,000, i said no, short time 300,000. she said ok, 400,000 but you pay taxi. i wanted her and i didn't feel like fighting over 5 or 10 bucks. so off we go. but this time i told her...for 400,000 i want photos. she agreed. got a blue bird taxi. and he pulled over three times and even had to call my hotel. heck, my girl was even trying to help him. yes, i think they all play dumb, for what?...another dollar. once in the room my girl turned it on. now we are talking. great time. photos, laughing, just an all around good time. took her back to top gun and said thank you and off i went to talk to other girls. should have stayed at the hotel. i wasn't feeling it. stayed till about 3am, time to bail. Take a taxi and yes, I didn't get a Blue Bird. What was I thinking? This young kid is way lost. And now he is getting frustrated. He wants me to pay him 100, 000 and dump me on the side of the road. Where he stopped and asked me to get out. I still don't know. I told him. There is now way I am getting out and to keep driving. We go around and around about me getting out. He finally realizes I'm not getting out and drives on. We get to the Atrium area and I said "yes", this is close, drive to the other side please. Nope. He stopped, got out and hailed another cab. Blue Bird. I gave the kid 400, 000 and got into the Blue Bird. This guy drives around the block and stops right at my hotel. The charge was 78, 000. I gave him 40, 000 and said thank you very much. It was now 4am.

Up at 1pm. Didn't think twice about getting up to have a $3 breakfast. Two of my buddies want to go to Bali. Later fellas! About an hour later my other buddy jumps the band wagon. Good luck to you too! So I book tickets for Bangkok, Thailand for the next day. About 9:30pm took dumb a* taxi driver to Block M. He didn't know where Top Gun was and well, neither did I. I figure. Block M, it has to be close. Turns out, he dropped me off on the far side of the block. So I spend the next half hour walking around by myself. Not one of my smarter moves. Finally get the Top Gun, start in on my first beer and before I finish I meet Three. 21, tall, big smiles, all over me. We agree to 400, 000 short time, photos and I pay for return taxi. Once again, I wanted her and didn't feel like haggling. As we were walking out about ten girls walk in. What! Oh well, they will be there later. This Blue Bird taxi guy only had to stop twice. I realized when we got to my hotel. I should have picked up a card from the old, well know hotel next door. And used that as a reference point. Since my hotel is only three months old. Ba ba ba! My bad. So, once in the room, Three puts on a modeling show. Cleans up and we get after it. Another great time. Said good bye and off she went. All the young guys working at my hotel were giving her googly eyes. It's 1am. Think I will crash out.

Guess I miss counted. I only spent four days in Jakarta. Not much to report. Up at 6am per hotel managers suggestion. 6:20am enter taxi. The fair was $15 and a 40 minute ride. Turns out. I had to pay the tolls. Oh, I forgot. At Top Gun, when you get into your taxi. A guy runs up and demands that you pay taxi parking. I know. Another racket (spell check). Once, I just refused. I noticed my driver just added it on to my fair when I got to my hotel. It's fifty cents. I know. My fight was at 11:45am. I was at the airport at 7am. I don't know why the hotel manager thought I needed to leave so early. But what could I do now? Paid my $15 airport exit tax and waited and waited and waited. So, there you have it. If you have any questions, please. Just ask. Might want to use private messaging so I see your question. If you have anything negative to say. Please, keep that to yourself, really, nobody wants to hear it.

I am traveling to Jakarta for the first time alone. Would appreciate some tips for a first timer in Indonesia. I have been spoilt by the access and choices in Latin America, parts of Europe, Russia, India and Singapore, where it is relatively easy, if you have good networks, and also fairly inexpensive.

How is the scene in Jakarta, and what are the areas? Are they available during the afternoon / early evening as well? And can I bring them to my hotel. I am staying at one of the Ibis hotels.

Thanks in advance for your support!

[QUOTE=Bean Counter;1419202]I have been spoilt by the access and choices in Latin America, parts of Europe, Russia, India and Singapore, where it is relatively easy, if you have good networks, and also fairly inexpensive.[/QUOTE]India? Really? I've been to India over 30 times and haven't been laid there once. If you find it relatively easy to get laid in India, then you won't need any help at all in Indonesia. Actually, Indonesia is easier than any place you listed there.

The information you requested is already posted in this forum over and over again. If you just spend a couple of hours reading through this thread, you will find that your questions have been addressed.

[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1419007]I don't know why the hotel manager thought I needed to leave so early. But what could I do now? Paid my $15 airport exit tax and waited and waited and waited. So, there you have it. If you have any questions, please. Just ask. Might want to use private messaging so I see your question. If you have anything negative to say. Please, keep that to yourself, really, nobody wants to hear it.[/QUOTE]It could be that your manager was helping you to avoid the traffic jam as it does get pretty bad. Albeit it does sound a tad early. Not specifically saying anything negative but for the sake of anyone looking for information, your FRs are almost a lesson in what not to do. I'm glad you managed a couple of good ones but Blok M bars are scratching the surface when it comes to the possibilities here and 400k for a taxi ride from Blok M to Atrium area is shocking. At least you didn't allow yourself to be dropped in the middle of nowhere.

[QUOTE=MarkIII; 1418361]Looks like I planned things a bit wrong this time. I arrive 5 August in Jakarta and Idul Fitri (end of the fasting) is 8 August.

Does anyone know if the clubs in kota (Like Stadium and Millenium) are still open on 5-7 August? ?

Thanks,

Mark[/QUOTE]You have one more problem (as if things weren't bad enough) and it is also to do with Idul Fitri; the 5th is only three days before Idul Fitri and the girls like to go back to their villages / hometowns by then, so your choice will be even more limited. I hope you get lucky mate. Best of luck.

MD II

I am staying at Shangrila, but for a change went to CJ's last night. Good crowd, enough to choose from considering that it was Sunday night. To my surprise, all the girls there were quoting $100US for short time. Now I have had enough chicas from BATS for 500K rupia short-time. Been a while since I went to CJ's, any idea on this price increase. Is this new or has CJ's always been this expensive?

Nevertheless, found a nice 30-ish lady on Saturday at BATS. She was not a 10 when you looked at the face, but I was tired and did not want to sit around drinking too late on Saturday so took her upstairs. What she did not have on face was more than made-up by her attitude and face. Told me she sold t-shirts during the day and did this over the weekend to earn some extra $$ (went into a story about wanting to buy an tablet for her 4 year old etc). I digress, but once in room, she was excellent. Her tits were not totally firm, but decent combination of soft / firmness. She got a kick when I started squeezing those melons. Initially I was worried about hurting her, but her reaction just encouraged me to squeeze those melons firmly, and boy did she enjoy it. She stayed back for good 3-4 hrs, we did it in various positions. Started with about 15 mins of tit squeezing, licking and tit fucking. Then she went down on me, gave me a nice rim-cleaning, sack sucking and off course BBJ. She was okay with BBJ, kept stopping to wiping off top of my dick (my dick gives out a lot of juice as it is being played with). This was bit irraiting, so asked her to stop sucking it all togather.

So we started with her in Cow-girl pose, fucked the living shit out of her. Shot my load into her. As soon as I was done, she took my hands and asked me to squeeze her tits. Dam she just could not have enough of those tits squeezed. I was in no mood to do so (had just blasted my load off, fuck off, All I wanted to do was relax and enjoy the feeling). Anyway. 30 mins later, she encourages me to get in the tub with her. Dam she was horny at this stage. We had good amount of tit sucking, deep kissing and bunch of fondling. She was pretty good at licking various parts of my body (did a great thing while eating my ear).

Out of shower, off we go to bed with me recipocating with a DATY, she was driping (really 30+ year old this juicy). Ended the session around mid-night with a doggie style. She left her number and dumb me manged to loose it. I will be plastered to BATS floors for next 2-3 days till I spot this fucking-aswesome-MILF.

Total Damange. 500 (that we agreeded upon) + 2 Beers in Room + Pizza via room srevice + 200 Tip. Overall she as worth every penny, if you can convince yourself to cover the face and fuck everything else.

For a while I am into import girls; have been to various places such as Maliaboro, Illigals or Alexis. Their price are relatively high, lowest I ever got was 1, 5 million.

I heard there are some places where they are available for 1 million. Maybe some seniors here know about that?

Thank you and happy mongering.

Eure

[QUOTE=Euremia; 1419324]For a while I am into import girls; have been to various places such as Maliaboro, Illigals or Alexis. Their price are relatively high, lowest I ever got was 1, 5 million.

I heard there are some places where they are available for 1 million. Maybe some seniors here know about that?

Thank you and happy mongering.

Eure[/QUOTE]Quite a few PRC to choose from at King's Cross Kelapa Gading at 1 million a shot.

[QUOTE=Bean Counter; 1419202]How is the scene in Jakarta, and what are the areas? Are they available during the afternoon / early evening as well? And can I bring them to my hotel. I am staying at one of the Ibis hotels.

Thanks in advance for your support![/QUOTE]Most available in afternoon. Hotel is girl friendly.

[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1419007]My fight was at 11:45am. I was at the airport at 7am. I don't know why the hotel manager thought I needed to leave so early. But what could I do now? Paid my $15 airport exit tax and waited and waited and waited.[/QUOTE]Might be because he want you to avoid the traffic.

11:45 mean you need to be at the airport around 10 am.

BTW there a massage place in the airport as well, but as far as I know no ++

[QUOTE=Euremia; 1419324]For a while I am into import girls; have been to various places such as Maliaboro, Illigals or Alexis. Their price are relatively high, lowest I ever got was 1, 5 million.

I heard there are some places where they are available for 1 million. Maybe some seniors here know about that?

Thank you and happy mongering.

Eure[/QUOTE]What kind of import are you talking about?

If PRC, them try king cross. Prc is 700k

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1419529]BTW there a massage place in the airport as well, but as far as I know no ++[/QUOTE]I've never tried it, but my boss says the Quality Hotel, right next to the airport, offers full service without any prompting.

Thanks. Next time you are coming to India, give me a shout. Will send you contacts of providers who will do a lineup and deliver the girl to your hotel room (provided the hotel is girl friendly)

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1419214]India? Really? I've been to India over 30 times and haven't been laid there once. If you find it relatively easy to get laid in India, then you won't need any help at all in Indonesia. Actually, Indonesia is easier than any place you listed there.

The information you requested is already posted in this forum over and over again. If you just spend a couple of hours reading through this thread, you will find that your questions have been addressed.[/QUOTE]

What kind of import are you talking about?

If PRC, them try king cross. Prc is 700k[/QUOTE]Thank you for the useful info. Yes I am more into PRC now, after having been enjoying the local gems for the past 2 years.

Will need to give KC a try.

Hi all,

I have been a frequent reader of this forum, though never posted anything until yesterday.

Reading the various reports is quite a delights. Here I have a question to the seniors: how far are your local girls, regardless gf or WG, regular or one night stand, willing to go to satisfy you in terms of services?

For me, I have been with a girl, or "gf" as you may also call, for 6 months now. 25 whyear old working as accountant in a big company in Kunningan area. Nice girl from a good family; virgin so can't have sex before marriage. I had been with her 2 months until she suggested me to try anal sex with her instead of only HJ and BJ BBBJ and CIM. It was her first try with anal and mine as well. But since then we have regular anal sex about twice per week (every time we meet in my place) and become enjoying it a lot. This girl is quite open and virtually does everything to please me; the routine is she gives me BBBJ for up to 30m including maybe 15m sucking and licking assh. Le and everything else, while I can just lying enjoying and watching television. Until I feel enough then we proceed to anal sex which normally last 30-45m until she says "enough", then I will have a quick wash and back again for a BBBJ ended by CIM. After that we can sleep for a while before going out for diner or something like that.

How about your experiences? Is she my girl common here?

For those in the sex prison of the US.

This morning and she even brought me coffee. Do not ask for contact info. This one is mine. All mine! LOL

first time in jakarta.

gentleman, if you've never been to jakarta. read and read and read the forum. make a plan, take notes. if you're so inclined, pay that sex club tour guide his 200 dollars, it sounds like it's worth it.

jakarta is not easy to navigate.

my hotel was about thirty km from the airport, and the second time i taxi'ed from the airport to my hotel, it took about 40 minutes for the first 29 km, and 30 minutes for the last km. i would have been better off walking the last km, except i didn't know where the fuck i was, really.

it's a huge city: 14 million? unlike angeles, thailand, phnom penh, there doesn't seem to be any walkable district to have fun in.

i read the forum and wrote pages of notes and still found myself rather overwhelmed. (it's possible my attitudes at first were biased by a backache the first few days.) after a few days in jakarta i wanted out. i took 5 days and went to bali and relaxed at the hot springs hotel, no girls, just pure relaxation. then came back to jakarta for a few more days.

i stayed in north jakarta; don't know what the rest of jakarta is like.

hotels.

i took the advice of one of the mongers on the forum and got a hotel in north jakarta, because it seemed to be in the center of things: near classic, travel, stadium, etc. it was right behind the legendary stadium. it was less expensive than his recommendation. he said mercure, which was 100 dollars a night. not in my budget. (mercure did have a good computer / printer business center, a rarity in this neighborhood where there were not a lot of internet cafe's.)

my first hotel was 32 a night, hotel antonio. i wouldn't go there again: a big letdown after a great 40 dollar hotel in phnom penh, (the blue tongue). the rooms were unpleasant looking, no window, construction going on from 9am waking us late sleepers. the wifi in the room was ok. it did have a mirror above the bed. the place was old and worn out, but apparently has a new owner and name. no elevator to the third floor. the staff was ok.

i moved to hotel classic. paid about 50-60 a night. good breakfast buffet, very clean if unimaginative theécor in the rooms. only problem: no wifi in the rooms, only in the café downstairs. advantage: there are two clubs inside the hotel which have 40-80 cute young things ready to go. more on that later.

i also stayed at the hotel fave pasar baru a couple nights, because i was sure they would have good wifi in the rooms, and by then i understood the locations of north jakarta better and realized that the blue taxis could get me there cheaply. very clean, modern, slick theécor, ok breakfast. all these places were girl friendly.

taxis.

the legitimate blue taxis are inexpensive and use the meter. your hotel will usually have some ready for you or will call one for you.

the rest of the taxis are ridiculous.

i got a ride on a motorbike one day early in my trip, and gave the guy 20, 000 rupiah (two dollars) which seemed reasonable. he got really mad, demanded 50, 000, said it was a difficult route, etc. i just gave it to him. newbie mistake.

later, i got in a cab with a couple girls from a club, took a short ride to the stadium. the girls and the taxi driver seemed to be saying 100, 000, (10 dollars) and i was being agreeable in the way people who don't understand a language are agreeable. when we arrived, i knew it was about 2 dollar ride: i gave him 3. he was furious! he wouldn't take it. i left it on the seat. he got out of the car and continued to yell at me, as i walked away.

on the way to my hotel that night, the same situation. the girl and the driver seemed to be saying 5 dollars, i knew it was about 1. 50 ride, and i gave him three: he acted as if i had stolen his daughters virginity without paying a dowry.

better to negotiate first if you have to take a non-regulated ride: but how do you do that if you don't know how far the trip is going to be? the blue taxis were cleaner, a / see, and i always tipped and the drivers were always reasonable, and appreciative of the tip.

english.

even when i found someone who spoke english, i often couldn't understand them because of a thick bahasa accent. i'd end up asking for three repetitions then get back some simple information. (stadium is pronounced: stah dee ooohm)

massage.

when i'm in asia i like to get an hour of real massage most days, for 5-10 dollars plus tip. all the hotels had massage options; about 10-13 dollars an hour. all of the girls were available for a handjob. i wasn't interested, except once when i decided i wanted to look for a girl who looked like my lovely ex-girlfriend : she was indonesian / dutch / chinese. the girl in the fave hotel looked like her. and she, even more than the others, was quite aggressive about wanting to give me a happy ending. ok, how much? fifty dollars. i laughed. we finally got down to an extra ten dollars for a happy ending. for a few moments, before i came, the sensation was incredibly pleasurable, the best. made me understand why guys like these happy ending massages.

i had a backache when i arrived in jakarta, and down the street by hotel antonio were some massage places, so one day i went in an picked an older lady, maybe 40, for a massage. she gave an excellent massage, i took an extra half hour, then she asked if i wanted more optons. not interested. that's when i noticed she had taken off her skirt. and then the price: sticker shock. i was in a sex massage place, not a real massage place. i figured because the women in the massage place were unattractive, and the woman gave a great massage, it was a legitimate massage place. so, the price for an hour and a half massage was 35 dollars, whether or not i took the sex. oh well, still a bargain, and good for my back.

clubs (in north jakarta)

stadium.

i was looking forward to going to the stadium. i've had lots of experiences with ravers / techno music people at burning man, and at parties in california, but never really was a part of that scene, only an observer. from the forum i learned that they had world class dj's at the stadium, and i checked them out on youtube. that helped me feel more comfortable there: the youtube videos made me feel like i had already been there when i got to the main dance room.

i was there about 20 minutes when i got a fantasy fulfilled: a girl on ecstasy started nuzzling and rubbing on me, clearly a pro from her knowledge and hustling, but a pro on ecstasy, that was fun.

i told her i didn't have enough money, i think it was about 30-40 dollars. she said, no problem, got a credit card?

awesome. you go upstairs, check in at reception like a hotel, they take your credit card, you pay for the girl and the room together.

the room was ok, had a shower in it. the girl was about 23, cute, short, nice body, ok english. and quite enthusiastic, being on ecstasy. (just a little, she said.) one hour. like girls on ecstasy, she sometimes changed positions quickly, a little drug induced add, lol.

at the end, she kept trying to talk me into taking her to my hotel, for 100 dollars, i wasn't interested. claimed she got 1500 dollars sometimes, for a month. no thanks. but thanks for fulfilling a fantasy of mine, a hot girl on ecstasy, who is ready immediately to get naked and wild.

millie's.

i was looking forward to millie's, after reading about it on the forum: girls with tattoos, piercings, on drugs, offering to hold your dick in the bathroom, barely legal: that sounded like a lot of fun to me! and a lot like the kids who populate my liberal college town and some of the events i'm involved in.

when i went to millie's, it wasn't like that at all. i first went during the day by cab, because someone on the forum said it was dangerous, to understand what i was getting into. it's on the top floor of a mall. doesn't seem very dangerous, even at night. one of the forum reports said it's being renovated: maybe it used to be different. i went back at night. it was only a couple hundred people at most, though it looked like it could have gotten more crowded later. a small dance floor, surrounded by some stools. middle class looking kids, i didn't see tattoos or piercings. i sat next to some girls who were high. they do this funny kind of being high dancing, moving their heads like an indian doing that side to side head movement of agreement, but when they are high it's like they're doing it repeatedly while facing upwards and wearing sunglasses in the dark: stoned bahasa girls imitating stevie wonder. i started dancing with and talking to a not good looking, but friendly girl who spoke good english. for awhile i thought i might actually have a non-pro experience. then i started checking out a cute young girl. 21, dressed for clubbing, tight jeans, sunglasses. the friendly not-cute girl noticed, and said: do you like her? i said i did. she explained that the girl would want money.

i smiled and said: i have money!

i started talking to the girl: she spoke very little english: mostly, money, and stadium. so i took her and her friend to the stadium; she kissed me in the cab. her friend disappeared soon with an old chinese guy: clearly she was an independent businesswoman of the night. my girl and i danced for an hour, and it was kind of a gfe: you don't have to speak to each other when you're both facing the dj and your girl has your dick on her butt while you dance and you gently explore her body. advantage: you get to check out other girls at the same time.

eventually, this turned into a cherry girl type experience. we got to my hotel, cuddled, she promptly fell asleep; when i made progress at getting her clothes undone, she jumped up and asked for taxi money. oh well. i actually had a good time, no problem, i like cuddling and dancing with cherry girls once in a while, it was an erotic experience that lasted for hours. i had been feeling like i was too low on the girlfriend experience scale: this was like a first date, don't get too far sexually but it's fun.

hotel travel.

i went there once to check it out. kind of similar to hotel classic, with a lineup of girls in a club, and a hotel, but the rooms look like they are from an older era. prices about the same. the taxi driver didn't know where it was, it took awhile to clue him in.

classic hotel.

it's a nice hotel, the floors get polished every night, the rooms are very clean. i stayed in a room there for about five days. the second floor club opens at 2pm, closes in the am sometime. the fifth floor club opens at five pm, closes slightly later.

i started smiling like a happy lunatic the first time i went to the club, looking at all the hot and willing babes. there were about 60 girls in groups of about 10, each group had it's own color and style of a moderately sexy uniform. i was usually the only white guy there. the mamasans make a beeline for you immediately and call over girls; usually they would bring me a girl who spoke a little english. costs 32 dollars for an hour with one. 46 dollars for an hour and a half with two girls. if you take two girls, they have to be the same uniform / mamasan. the people in the fifth floor club didn't know anything about the 6 girls for 80 dollar deal of the past, and all the girls upstairs were indonesian, no russians or mexicans or anything else that i could see as people had described in the past. ages about 18 to 24 usually. one night when i went there, there were girls on stage dancing in only g-strings. i was a little surprised how the girl that the mamasan brought me was patiently waiting while i stared at one girl dancing who looked like a perfect asian hottie from my home state, only naked. and she patiently waited when the girl got off the stage, and i called her over for a sort of lapdance: heaven. the dancer wasn't available for fucking, but she smiled and kissed me well and danced tight and close and grinding, and when i licked her nipples, she patted me on the back like i was some poor lunatic she cared for. which i was. awesome. after she left, i understood the girl's patience next to me; i had gotten heated up, and soon took her and another girl to sex up.

threesomes.

most of the time i go for short time these days, but i'm used to short time being two hours; at classic its 90 minutes. the first threesome i had at classic was great fun, but seemed to end a little too soon. the second threesome, i hurried it a little. after that, i got used to the rhythm of the hour and a half.

the girls walk you to another part of the building, with excellent little rooms for hot sex: clean, bright, a sexy picture on one wall, with a big bed, a big mirror on one side and a glass walled shower on the other, and a tv. (during one of my threesomes, i was doggy with a girl in front while the helpful girl behind was standing over me stroking my balls. in the big mirror it looked like some of those ancient erotic sculptures of threesomes, on the walls of the ancient tantric temples at khajuraho). i always tried to walk behind the girls to the room, to enjoy them navigating the path in their high heels and tight dresses. once inside, a waitress will bring you drinks if you like. the girls take out some soap and mouthwash, and shower, and they wash you from dick to chest, lol. i got used to taking off my clothes and showering as soon as i got in the room, to make the most of my time. they are going to take another slow shower and mouthwash when they leave, so figure out how that works in timing for two girls.

threesomes in general are not the best for gfe: but these in particular are different from threesomes in angeles city, where you might get one or both of the girls excited. the girls at classic want you to get off, and most of them don't want you to lick them, or massage their pussy, and some even reject simple massage by a former massage therapist, me. (one of the girls, a pretty 24 year old milf that i did in a threesome then again later alone, spoke excellent english. she explained that she worked about 4-6 days a week, and fucked 1-4 guys every day. that's like 300 guys in the five months she worked there! and she gets 8 dollars for her time with the guy. makes you understand why these girls don't want you poking in their vaginas any more than necessary. she was the only christian girl, the rest were muslim. and she smiled a lot, and said she liked her job, she liked being naughty.)

i like shy girls, so i often wound up with one was outgoing, who spoke a little english, was more likely to be a single mom, and more into sex; with another more shy girl whose body was more tight, but gave less experienced service.

i had already experienced the weird blowjobs in cambodia where the girls act like your clear pre-cum is nasty. they suck a little, then hit your dick with a tissue, then repeat, until the bed is littered with tissues. (one of the girls not only put on a condom for the bj, she wiped my balls and scrotum with her mouthwash to disinfect it! i didn't realize it until i noticed my balls were hella cold and tingling unpleasantly.) a lot of the girls at classic are like that, but not all: some give good head.

over about four or five days staying at classic hotel, i had several threesomes at the classic club, and several individual sessions, all quite enjoyable.

twelve in one day.

i heard an old aussie in angeles city complaining one day that his drinking hole near swagman's was closed, because some young single guy had barfined the entire bar and taken them to the beach at subic bay. the old guy said 'you can't fuck 27 girls! '. i thought it was great: the guy made big money working hard on isolated oil rigs, he could afford it, and why not have the experience? if you can't fuck 27 girls, you can have fun trying.

i also read about hugh hefner's habit of thursday night scheduled romps with his mansion bunnies. they come into a darkened room with music, might have some ecstasy, wear some outfits he likes. his regular girl gets him hard with a bj, then 10 girls get on him and fuck him for a couple minutes each. maybe they are chanting 'go hef! '. his philosophy: every person has the right to try to act out their sexual fantasies.

i had been frustrated by the lack of gfe in north jakarta for me, but i was getting better at appreciating what i had. my last full day i got an idea: i'll fuck 12 girls in the next 24 hours.

i give sex parties, and i'd always felt that on the fourth girl i fucked at a party, it was too much: my arms would get tired out when i was on top of them. i'd start shaking a little. but these girls don't care about you getting them off, they are there for you to get off and them to get money for their motorcycle / phone whatever. so it would be easier on me. i semi-intentionally don't ejaculate much, and i like to fuck a long long time, so this could be fun.

here's the record of how what happened on my last 24 hours in jakarta.

saturday. 115am in classic terminal club, second floor.

i pick two girls. they were actually the best all day: both young and cute and good personalities. the one who was a bit shyer about sex, with the tissue blowjobs, was very pretty and had a body to die for: incredible firm see cup breasts, everything else in slim proportion. i'm six foot two, and she kept saying, with a worried look, are you really big? sometimes i joked that i was tiny, sometimes i joked that i was huge. when she saw me (i'm average size) , i told her i would be gentle. she didn't understand; her language for that is : slow, slowly. no problem, i like making girls happy, and i like going slow.

i told them i wanted to marry both of them, and take them home with me. (i do want to marry both of them. let me know if there's a country where i can get fifty. or six hundred. fiance visas, simultaneously.) the outgoing girl with braces was trying out her english, amusingly: 'i miss you' 'i love you' 'i like you'. by then i had an indonesian phrasebook and we used it sometimes. especially the phrase "saya senang" (i am happy!). i had also been to bali, and bought a sarong there. that was a great prop: i got them, and several of the other girls later, to use it as a sarong for barebreasted balinese dance moves, as a muslim arab headdress covering the eyes, as an indonesian scarf covering the hair, as a belly dancer, etc. the girls were laughing and showing off, trying dance moves and checking themselves out in the mirror. often i'd get behind them and feel them up, fantasizing about them in all those different ways.

315 am in the fifth floor classic club.

i pop some viagra.

the club is near closing time, but there are still lots of girls on the bleachers. i pick a girl; she doesn't want to come, she wants to go home and sleep or whatever. i'm fine with that, but the mamasan gets mad at her and makes her come over. i don't want her, but the mamasan is going to make her do it, and will get more mad at her if i don't take her, so, ok. another girl comes over willingly, and we go to the room. the first girl has started to wake herself up, dancing vigorously, and when we get to the room: it's the worst threesome i have all day, because the first girl is so intent on getting it over with. she keeps talking about getting out of there, going home, going home soon. first she orders not just drinks but a big can of fruit, all of which she stuffs in her purse. she's ordering the other girl around. they do give decent service, and i tell them to go home after less than an hour. they ask for a tip, which i had given to all the girls. i smiled and said 'what? after all that 'go home go home go home? no, just go home early, go to sleep. '

5am.

i head over to stadium. but it's closed. no more girls until classic terminal club opens at two pm.

6am

breakfast buffet at the classic, check my email, then get some sleep.

2pm.

i'm back at the club. by 230 i'm in the room with two girls. life is good.

4pm comic interlude.

this pair was ridiculous. one of the girls kept telling the other girl what to do, insistently, and the other would respond mildly, then the first would be insanely argumentative and bossy. like, constantly. i finally told the first girl (after i fucked her) , to sit on the bed, watch tv, and stop looking at me and the other girl.

6pm.

at last i get two hot girls who both give energetic service. the one i thought was shy, wasn't. and she had big breasts on a small slim toned body. alas, she was the girl who gave me head plus mouthwash on the scrotum. a bit distracting. but besides that, an excellent pair of girls. the more experienced milf was ok with me licking her pussy, a rarity in classic threesomes. i had to convince her it was fun for me. if the girl liked it.

saya senang.

8pm.

my last round. i'm getting a little tired. i pick a spinner and a very sweet looking girl. i like girls who are laughing and smiling, and they were. but when the little one came over, something about her smile was a little tight, it lowered my enjoyment a bit. so i figured i'd fuck her first, and save the better for last.

once i started with her, i got really turned on! out of all my indonesian girls, she was the one i did the most positions with, and fucked energetically from one part of the room to the other. something about that tiny slim body. at one point, i picked her up, walked across the room to where the other girl was standing naked: put the taller girl against the wall, then i fucked the little girl using the tall sweet girl for a backdrop. then back to the edge of the bed, etc, etc. then the sweet girl. by this time, i was getting tired. not tired of fucking, just needing some sleep.

all the girls gave blowjobs, ranging from pretty good to ridiculous. all the girls wanted condoms for fucking. i fucked them all for awhile. i've done it, it was good, i don't need to ever do it again. classic may be the best place in the world for fucking a dozen young hotties in one day without breaking the bank.

overall jakarta impression.

jakarta is difficult in some ways, but it has a lot to offer. the hot and sweet young things made me want to learn indonesian. there are plenty of options that i never got a chance to explore. i'll come back.

[QUOTE=Euremia;1419684]How about your experiences? Is she my girl common here?[/QUOTE]Generally speaking, if the girl likes you, she will go to great lengths. It varies (as always) as to what she is willing to do; some may not like anal sex, but generally almost anything goes. The whole BBBJ while watching TV also depends on how much the girl likes to do that. The longest I've had was almost 50 minutes. But you really do feel like you are THE MAN. LOL Make the best of what you have and enjoy it while you can.

MD II

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]First Time in Jakarta.

Gentleman, if you've never been to Jakarta. Read and read and read the forum. Make a plan, take notes. If you're so inclined, pay that sex club tour guide his 200 dollars, it sounds like it's worth it.

Classic may be the best place in the world for fucking a dozen young hotties in one day without breaking the bank.

OVERALL JAKARTA IMPRESSION.

Jakarta is difficult in some ways, but it has a lot to offer. The hot and sweet young things made me want to learn Indonesian. There are plenty of options that I never got a chance to explore. I'll come back.[/QUOTE]Will read & re-read this entire FR before I venture out to Classic.

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]TAXIS.

The legitimate blue taxis are inexpensive and use the meter. Your hotel will usually have some ready for you or will call one for you.

The rest of the taxis are ridiculous.

I got a ride on a motorbike one day early in my trip, and gave the guy 20, 000 rupiah (two dollars) which seemed reasonable. He got really mad, demanded 50, 000, said it was a difficult route, etc. I just gave it to him. Newbie mistake.

Later, I got in a cab with a couple girls from a club, took a short ride to the Stadium. The girls and the taxi driver seemed to be saying 100, 000, (10 dollars) and I was being agreeable in the way people who don't understand a language are agreeable. When we arrived, I knew it was about 2 dollar ride: I gave him 3. He was furious! He wouldn't take it. I left it on the seat. He got out of the car and continued to yell at me, as I walked away.

On the way to my hotel that night, the same situation. The girl and the driver seemed to be saying 5 dollars, I knew it was about 1. 50 ride, and I gave him three: he acted as if I had stolen his daughters virginity without paying a dowry.

Better to negotiate first if you have to take a non-regulated ride: but how do you do that if you don't know how far the trip is going to be? The blue taxis were cleaner, a / see, and I always tipped and the drivers were always reasonable, and appreciative of the tip.[/QUOTE]Those taxis are absolute crap and run by the mafia. The reason you don't see legit bluebird taxis coming around when those taxis are waiting is because they are scared of the mafia. However, those taxis do wait 2 to 3 hours for a customer normally, so they do deserve a bit more than the normal fare. I will normally give them double the normal fare which results to around 50 to 60k for most central hotels in Jakarta. You ABSOLUTELY have to negotiate with them before entering the taxi. If they want too much, then start walking down the road. Once you get far enough away from them, the bluebirds won't be scared to pick you up. Problem is sometimes you have to walk quite a ways and there may not even be any taxis that happen by. If you have a girl in tow, those girls don't normally like to walk far. You can normally negotiate a decent price with those crap taxis though as long as it's done before ever entering the taxi.

Same with the motorbikes. Always negotiate first with them. (I refuse to take them though, they are maniac drivers.)

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]STADIUM.

I was looking forward to going to the Stadium. I've had lots of experiences with ravers / techno music people at Burning Man, and at parties in California, but never really was a part of that scene, only an observer. From the forum I learned that they had world class dj's at the Stadium, and I checked them out on Youtube. That helped me feel more comfortable there: the youtube videos made me feel like I had already been there when I got to the main dance room.

I was there about 20 minutes when I got a fantasy fulfilled: a girl on ecstasy started nuzzling and rubbing on me, clearly a pro from her knowledge and hustling, but a pro on ecstasy, that was fun.

I told her I didn't have enough money, I think it was about 30-40 dollars. She said, no problem, got a credit card?

Awesome. You go upstairs, check in at reception like a hotel, they take your credit card, you pay for the girl and the room together.

The room was ok, had a shower in it. The girl was about 23, cute, short, nice body, ok English. And quite enthusiastic, being on ecstasy. (Just a little, she said.) One hour. Like girls on ecstasy, she sometimes changed positions quickly, a little drug induced ADD, LOL.

At the end, she kept trying to talk me into taking her to my hotel, for 100 dollars, I wasn't interested. Claimed she got 1500 dollars sometimes, for a month. No thanks. But thanks for fulfilling a fantasy of mine, a hot girl on ecstasy, who is ready immediately to get naked and wild.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time, but I find this a bit humorous. As you said, for sure that girl was a "pro". And an employee of Stadium. I don't believe the girl you found was some free lance girl on ecstasy who decided to venture upstairs on a horny whim to earn a few extra bucks. When you first walk into that disco, the front bar area has mamasans and hard core hookers waiting there who are hired to work there and get a percentage of each time they take a guy upstairs. Stadium is not only a disco, it's a knock shop with professionals manning the floor. As far as I know, those are the only girls who can take a customer upstairs there, freelancers cannot. No doubt, your girl was one of the hardcore girls employed there. Are they on ecstasy? Absolutely. Are they a good time? Absolutely. I always like to get a shot in with one of them when I venture to Stadium.

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]MILLIE'S.

I was looking forward to Millie's, after reading about it on the forum: girls with tattoos, piercings, on drugs, offering to hold your dick in the bathroom, barely legal: that sounded like a lot of fun to me! And a lot like the kids who populate my liberal college town and some of the events I'm involved in.

When I went to Millie's, it wasn't like that at all. I first went during the day by cab, because someone on the forum said it was dangerous, to understand what I was getting into. It's on the top floor of a mall. Doesn't seem very dangerous, even at night. One of the forum reports said it's being renovated: maybe it used to be different. I went back at night. It was only a couple hundred people at most, though it looked like it could have gotten more crowded later. A small dance floor, surrounded by some stools. Middle class looking kids, I didn't see tattoos or piercings. I sat next to some girls who were high. They do this funny kind of being high dancing, moving their heads like an Indian doing that side to side head movement of agreement, but when they are high it's like they're doing it repeatedly while facing upwards and wearing sunglasses in the dark: stoned bahasa girls imitating Stevie Wonder. I started dancing with and talking to a not good looking, but friendly girl who spoke good english. For awhile I thought I might actually have a non-pro experience. Then I started checking out a cute young girl. 21, dressed for clubbing, tight jeans, sunglasses. The friendly not-cute girl noticed, and said: do you like her? I said I did. She explained that the girl would want money.

I smiled and said: I have money!

I started talking to the girl: she spoke very little English: mostly, money, and Stadium. So I took her and her friend to the Stadium; she kissed me in the cab. Her friend disappeared soon with an old Chinese guy: clearly she was an independent businesswoman of the night. My girl and I danced for an hour, and it was kind of a GFE: you don't have to speak to each other when you're both facing the dj and your girl has your dick on her butt while you dance and you gently explore her body. Advantage: you get to check out other girls at the same time.

Eventually, this turned into a cherry girl type experience. We got to my hotel, cuddled, she promptly fell asleep; when I made progress at getting her clothes undone, she jumped up and asked for taxi money. Oh well. I actually had a good time, no problem, I like cuddling and dancing with cherry girls once in a while, it was an erotic experience that lasted for hours. I had been feeling like I was too low on the girlfriend experience scale: this was like a first date, don't get too far sexually but it's fun.[/QUOTE]This sounds like the only time during your stay where you took a girl not controlled by mamasans. I prefer those type of girls. But you let that girl off easy. In my opinion, no way was that a "cherry girl". More like a lazy girl who got off easy and got money for doing nothing. Those girls do get that way sometimes though when they come down from their X high. The first girl already told you "she would want money". Those girls know they have to have sex with you to earn that money. No money, no honey goes both ways. No honey, no money is what you need to tell that chick. I do like grinding into a girl all night like you did, but I hope you didn't give her more than 50k taxi money if all she did was cuddle. We can't have these girls expecting money for nothing.

[QUOTE=SleepyDog;1420671]I had been frustrated by the lack of GFE in north Jakarta for me[/QUOTE]North Jakarta is absolutely NOT the place you want to be if you want GFE. It sounds like every single girl you fucked on your visit was a hard core hooker controlled by mamasans. Those girls are rarely if ever GFE. You can find GFE in the places with free lancers or the dating web sites. But these days even the free lancers are much more hardened than they were 10 years ago.

If you are looking for GFE, I recommend south jakarta places like Blok M, Bats, CJ's, dating web sites, shopping malls, etc. The price is higher in south jakarta than the North Jakarta knock shops, but it really just depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for cheap, easy sex with no GFE, North Jakarta is the best area in Jakarta. And it sounds like you got plenty of that! Nothing wrong with that.

Vow, that is a great number. I've never scored more than 2 in a day. I also never use Viagra though. The longest session I had so far was about 2h, with a non pro.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1420739]Generally speaking, if the girl likes you, she will go to great lengths. It varies (as always) as to what she is willing to do; some may not like anal sex, but generally almost anything goes. The whole BBBJ while watching TV also depends on how much the girl likes to do that. The longest I've had was almost 50 minutes. But you really do feel like you are THE MAN. LOL Make the best of what you have and enjoy it while you can.

MD II[/QUOTE]Yes I absolutely agree with that. I always try to be imaginative of what to do with her. Still, I have never made out more than twice with her in one whole afternoon / evening.

I studied the board well before arriving in town, so Mangga Besar and Hotel Travel in particular was the target area.

General observation: I found Indonesian to be exceptionally cleanly relative to the overall low standard of living for most people in Jakarta, in particular compared to Chinese and the quality of sanitary installation in Italy. Bathroom facilities where always clean and there were never any hygiene problem with any of the girls. Club girls are meticulous and even a street pickup will be safe and clean if you check for the basic signs (clean cloths, decent makeup and clean hair).

Day 1. 21:00. 22:30: Hotel Travel.

Location: Mangga Besar VIII Street 21. Google maps finds it. Head straight for the bar area, which has a separate entrance to the left of the Hotel (yes it's actually also Hotel).

The bar it completely safe for foreigners, you won't get hassled or ripped off (unless you get [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk and wave money around, I guess). Prices are the same for everybody. The bar operates as a straight brothel, no hidden services. One hour, blowjob and one fuck. There is no cover charge, when you enter them hand you a customer number against which all drinks are charged. So you walk in, check the girls, have a beer and walk out and pay what you consumed. When you go upstairs you have to pay cash to the Mama-san; she will bring change. Prices for service are published at the bar. Massage is available for 175. 000, room with girl one hour is 325. 000, and better rooms cost more.

The Mama-sans act as waitresses and push the girls. The girls will never approach you, so simply take a seat in the front row and picked on (Mama helps pointing them out with a laser pointer). Most Mama-sans are 40+ fat housewife's (uughh) but there were actually one or two pretty cute 28is ones as well. Would be impolite to ask them upstairs.

Girls available are all local breeds. No "exotics" (Russians, Chinese etc) , those operate at higher prices.

Opening hours: 16:00 till 02:00.

Prices are cleanly broken down if you care to check the screen of the lady at checkout.

Beer: 30. 000.

Cocktail: 71. 000.

Room on hour: 165. 000.

Girl one hour: 150. 000.

Condom: 10. 000 (yes, it is listed as a separate item. They must have the tax auditors check this.)

I tipped the girl 100. 000 and had a Margarita so I came out at 496. 000.

If you choose to select a girl straight, skip the drinks and are a miser you will only pay said 325. 000.

Two girls for one hours will be 475. 000 (will they charge another condom?)

20 customers. 30-40 girls, looked like an all local audience. No other Caucasian customer and I guess no Chinese either.

Selected Yuni, nicely padded. 23 years old form Java. Pretty much no English, nice attitude but very basic service. CBJ and FS. A bit of a massage afterwards. Didn't kiss and didn't want me to DATY. She got the 100K tip for nice attitude. Next time I will ask the Mama-san for a girl who kisses.

Day 2. 21:00. 24:00: Stadium, Kartika and a freelancer.

1) Went to Stadium, looking for freelancers, which of course are not there. All the girls in the disco are on contract with the house. Wasted 90000 on 2 beers.

2) Over to Kartika, my first Thai style Soap from a well shaped 28 year old called Yanti. I asked for a girl that kissed, so I was pleasantly surprised that she accepted DATY as well. 350. 000 for the house and 100. 000 tip. Kartika closes at 23:00 so I found that I could have taken her back to the Hotel, though I guess they only do this if they like the customer. Well maybe tomorrow.

3) While walking to Burger King several non-pros sitting with their friends by the little shops tried to talk me up. Back from Burger King 10min later curiosity made me investigate a pair. A chubby one with a round baby face (my fetish so she got me) , her petite friend hardly 150cm in height and a boy who (jokingly?) was offered to me by said chubby.

Took the chubby back for 1h 300. 000. Good kisser, good fuck, no DATY. 22 years, crazy and impatient and out of the room after 40min but I forgive her for all the rest was excellent. Glodok shop assistant. Got her mobile number.

Day 3. 21:00. 01:00: Malioboro.

Malioboro was actually on the list of places to be ignored. More expensive then necessary at 800. 000 for local girls. 1.200. 000 for Chinese et al and 1. 800. 000 for non Asian beauties.

But Malioboro was high on the list of my local workmates "must see places in Jakarta" so I followed them there after dinner. I wasn't interested in the type of girls there, so nothing happened except a few lap dances. Starting at 50. 000 per lap dance. You buy a "shot" for the girl. Expect to buy 2-10 shots. 100. 000 cover fee. Total cost 250. 000 without alcohol. Malioboro is "upper class" so the girls are almost all young, slim and on average taller than elsewhere (which is the opposite of my fetish). Bar area is large and well lit, there are topless stage dances. A number of Chinese, Korean, Uzbek etc."exotic birds" are available. The local guys make it an ego trip to line them up and pick. Plain massages and a Spa area are also available. When you enter you can go to the locker room to drop your money, keys and empty your pockets. You don't want the girls to hurt themselves during the lap dance.

Day 4. 21:00. 23:00: The freelancer

Called the freelancer from Day 2 to my Hotel. OK again. 600. 000. I tried to strike a private converation despite the language barrier. Found she has a 4 year old child but a broken marriage. Gave her some presents for the kid. She wouldn't stay overnight as she wanted to be home when her little one wakes up and had to go to work in the morning.

Day 5. 22:00. 23:00: The freelancer. Girl drama.

She arrived late as the kid wouldn't sleep. This time I thought about her inviting her petite friend for a threesome, who had been sending her SMS all time asking about her whereabouts. I didn't read the "woman signals" properly though as I discovered too late that she was getting a bit jealous and disappointed that I was leaving Jakarta. When it was time for her to go home she was almost crying and asked me to delete her number. She almost forgot the chocolate I bought for her kid. 400. 000.

Though the week ended in a bit of a gloomy mood and (small) girl drama it was an overall good experience.

[QUOTE=Mtraveller; 1421224]I studied the board well before arriving in town, so Mangga Besar and Hotel Travel in particular was the target area.

Day 1. 21:00. 22:30: Hotel Travel.

Location: Mangga Besar VIII Street 21. Google maps finds it. Head straight for the bar area, which has a separate entrance to the left of the Hotel (yes it's actually also Hotel).

Opening hours: 16:00 till 02:00.[/QUOTE]Correction,

Opening Hours: 1. 30pm till 2am (Daily)

I see a lot of posts about people's exploits here lately, but very few photos.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1421291]I see a lot of posts about people's exploits here lately, but very few photos.[/QUOTE]Completely agree, Smooothy.

I will try and make a contibution during and after my next visit to Indonesia in June.

How about it, felllow members? Has your supply dried up? Some prolific posters have never even managed to upload even a single picture.

Regards,

Ko

Guys,

I have read the boards and there are so many recommendations and it all gets so fucking confusing, so I thought I would pose some questions for you all and would greatly appreciate any response. I am in Jakarta from the 1st July to the 7th July, staying at the Crowne for the first 3days and Mercure for the 2nd 3 days (thought I would get bot the south and north ends of Jakarta in. Anyway, my question is, what places do you recommend I visit? Thanks in advance and will post some feedback during my visit!

Landed here in CGK yesterday morning from SIN. I had enough time so wanted to explore the economical transport options. My hotel is Amaris in Mangga Besar so 25 K by Damri bus took me to Gambir. Spend some time at the war memorial statue. Outside of Gambir railway station took transjakarta bus to Amaris. In total 28. 5 K I reaches my hotel. Reception was excellent allowed me early check in. Went to Lokasari Plaza, managed to visit Cherry, Lokasari spa, Grand Comfort and the rates varies between 300- 500 and only Cherry allows the option to choose girls. The girls in the small shops and phrmacies are interested in talking but mostly knows Bahasa Ind only. Plaza Senayan is a good place to mingle with girls. From there went to Block M and visited D' s Place and TopGun. I was slightly early so went back to Kota area. Went to suncity, seemed like walking in China Town, the Mammy doesn't send girl with me since I am new. Left there, after dinner went to Stadium. Hospitality is good, every Mammy tried to make customers happy by sending girls. The entry fee was 80 K. Actually I feel like most of the girls are in both hooker dress and normal dress are hookers. The Mammy so aggressive to ask me to choose girl, and finally I had to request her not to send any girls to me. While all these things are happening I found a cute girl she was looking at me and smiling sometimes, came to me after some time. She hold me and started kissing and hugging. I was totally impressed by her attitude. In 10 mins finished my drink and went stairs for Chiki Chiki.

No need to explain about what happened in the room. She was awesome! With Lot of DFK, offered BBBJ at shower, CBJ, catbath ball sucking etc. We tried Miss, fwd and reverse cowgirl and cum in Doggy. After the play also she hugged me and kissed. Then I sucked her nipples for the next 10 mins. She was so happy with the 100 K tip. Imo 100 K is good tip in other areas except Batam. I have no restriction from her except anal. I have taken some of her photos sharing here. I have her number, may be I revisit her depends upon what I find in the afternoon today!

Sorry photos will be uploaded once get home, I can't from my Tab.

Thanks / Gajith

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1421542]Guys, I have read the boards and there are so many recommendations and it all gets so fucking confusing, so.

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My question is, what places do you recommend I visit? .[/QUOTE]Hello Farq40, mr first-poster: now you make [b]me [/b]confused. You are already confused by all recommendations and still you want [u]more[/u] recommendations? Do you use confusion like some kind of drug?

My recommendation is: Write all the venue names you already have on small notes, put them in a bowl and shake well, then pick 5.

Or follow the treads of [i]SleepyDog [/i]below.

Or call JAD.

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1421542]Guys,

I have read the boards and there are so many recommendations and it all gets so xxxxing confusing, so I thought I would pose some questions for you all and would greatly appreciate any response. I am in Jakarta from the 1st July to the 7th July, staying at the Crowne for the first 3 days and Mercure for the 2nd 3 days (thought I would get bot the south and north ends of Jakarta in. Anyway, my question is, what places do you recommend I visit? Thanks in advance and will post some feedback during my visit![/QUOTE]It's hard to get excited about helping out a total newbie with only one post (who are you?)

But it's also difficult to give you a definitive answer to your question because you will be in Jakarta just before the start of the fasting month of Ramadan, and many places close a few days ahead of Ramadan, while other places may remain open but with limited availability. Most lower-end spas will be closed a few days ahead of the first day of fasting (July 9 or 10) , with most of the working girls heading back to their home villages for 5 weeks. Other girls may hang around for another week or so but may be more difficult for a newbie to find.

RTFF! And you'll quickly discover that for the northern part of town, try Kartika Spa (and its neighbor Berlian, ask for Ina), Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic or the infamous Stadium (be careful with your wallet / passport / money / etc here). Hotel Malioboro and Hotel Alexis are slightly more expensive but are more likely to be open.

For the southern part of town, try the Maribaya Spa on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai (which will defintely be closed a few days ahead of Ramadan) , and the many bars on Jalan Falatehan in Blok M. There's numerous posts on all of these places here on ISG.

Just read Shuga's post below and I agree with his final recommendation - cal JAD and you'll be guaranteed to get laid even if every spa in Jakarta is closed by the religious police.

A tip for everyone. Based on my past experiences from spending 4 Ramadans in Jakarta, the girls are politely aggressive during the week before the start of Ramadan, doing their best to get as much tip money from you as possible. That's because, when they arrive in their home village, they'll be expected to have lots of presents and cash to give to their families.

Many of the families do not know (or do not want to know) what their daughter is doing in Jakarta. One of my faves from 2007/08 once told me that she had told her father that she was working in a shop in a mall.

This aggressiveness can be both good (you'll usually get a great session, or offered two girls at a reasonable price) and bad (they'll bug you incessantly until you agree to give a larger tip).

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]First Time in Jakarta.

Gentleman, if you've never been to Jakarta. Read and read and read the forum. Make a plan, take notes. If you're so inclined, pay that sex club tour guide his 200 dollars, it sounds like it's worth it.

Jakarta is not easy to navigate.

OVERALL JAKARTA IMPRESSION.

Jakarta is difficult in some ways, but it has a lot to offer. The hot and sweet young things made me want to learn Indonesian. There are plenty of options that I never got a chance to explore. I'll come back.[/QUOTE]Tremendous report, and proof that a newbie poster can actually post an informative and well-written field report, rather than just ask questions (this was Sleepy Dog's second post ever).

sitting my my couch with another ice pack on my junk because i have abused it once again. yes it is one of those days!

okay so kinda miffed that my report on a foursome did not get me a nomination for distinction. well giving it another try. my last report had me in a foursome with 3 girls with one being girlfriend number two and the others from a street meet. of the two. one smoking hot. the other, her cousin, not as attractive but wow she is great in bed. it took me 3 weeks to shake the hot one to concentrate my efforts with the less attractive one. another threesome with both and i get the number of the cousin. these girls live over an hour the other side of bogor. and bogor is hours from jakarta. we are talking way out in the countryside.

so dewi (the less attractive one) has taken a real like to my little kink of lesbian sex. she was only stopped by the other one or she would have tried it more than just a touch or sucking on a nipple. setting me up for some serious fantasy stuff.

i suggest she get some of her friends and come over for a night. she gives me a list of names and social media sites to see photos. i tell her it is up to her. pick who she likes. of course all of the choices were hot so i had no problem leaving that up to her.

they arrive after a 6 hour bus ride and i really. no wait let me correct that. really happy with her choice. 162 cm and 40 kg and her boobs must be 4 kg each. yes, gentlemen we are talking firm double d on an eighteen year old and a tiny waist. the unique item is that she has nearly invisible nipples. not the usual indonesian dark brown ones. but, i am ahead of my story.

they come into my place and immediately ask for a shower. that quickly becomes a shower for three and i get all of the attention. dewi tells her new charge exactly what to do. where to wash and where to pamper me.

sorry side bar. making arrangements via sms for threesomes with girlfriend number one on friday night and girlfriend number 2 on wednesday night. back to story.

it is easy to see that the new girl has never done pay for play before. very shy and hiding those huge breasts. we have dinner but of course dewi takes the lead and finishes cooking (my cook had already cooked food for three) got to love customer service like that. the new girl does not know how to use a fork. no not kidding plus no idea how to close a door before peeing.

the after dinner was to be a movie. but turned into play time part one. too many detail her to really type it. but giggles at kissing for the first time and giggles for a tongue on a clit for the first time and giggles for a girl's tongue on a clit for the first time. the look on dewi's face when she first tasted how sweet pussy tastes was priceless. now time for a surprise. a vibrator. neither had a clue what it was until it touched a clit. dewi let out a scream and very quickly asked if she could have it. (i have ten hidden in my place) i gave it to her and i am sure there will be many happy women in her village. finishing of round one was deep inside the new girl in doggy with the vibrator hard against her clit. she continued to be shy but her wettness gave it away that she was having a good time. the look on her face of twisted pleasure as the vibrator rode her clit with my cock balls deep in her from behind. that is a look i will never forget. break time.

we go to watch a movie on my ba tv (big ass) it is not 15 minutes that dewi is telling me that she wants me for herself. and has my pants down and my cock in her mouth. some of the best head i have ever had.

we head back to the bedroom. not wanting to leave the new girl by herself i have her join us and talk her into stripping again. i could not resist the taste of her and had her on my face as dewi rode me. what stood out was that the new girl liked to watch my tongue. i could look up and see her eyes shining in the darkness watching my tongue. amazing to see the look in her eyes and taste how wet she was.

i ended the second round with shots down dewi's throat.

they both thanked me so much for the $100 each. that is a huge sum in their area.

i would share contact information. but this is my gold mine. dewi has told me she likes the taste and wants to do it again. she even offered up a list of 4 other girls that would be willing. gentlemen i really hate my life. it is time to change the icepack.

if you want to nominate me for distiction. fine. if not. to hell with you. where is that damn icepack!

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1422036]Sitting my my couch with another ice pack on my junk because I have abused it once again. Yes it is one of those days.

They both thanked me so much for the $100 each. That is a huge sum in their area.[/QUOTE]Actiually that's more than a month's income per person in that area!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1422037]Actiually that's more than a month's income per person in that area![/QUOTE]Best guess is 4-5 hours of fucking and sucking and fucking. Could I find cheaper? Yes. 2 girls at travel cost 600, 000-700, 000 (with a bigger tip) but for something this fresh? $200 USD is going to help build a home. Plus, you know that my phone will be ringing off the hook with a line of more to come and visit me!

Hell. I am already booked for 3 threesomes and the next week!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1422023]A tip for everyone. Based on my past experiences from spending 4 Ramadans in Jakarta, the girls are politely aggressive during the week before the start of Ramadan, doing their best to get as much tip money from you as possible. That's because, when they arrive in their home village, they'll be expected to have lots of presents and cash to give to their families.[/QUOTE]That is true, in addition the freelance would be as agressive during ramadan.

It's not uncommon for freelance / model to slash their regular rate during ramadan, spa girl usually keep their rate though.

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1422050]Best guess is 4-5 hours of fucking and sucking and fucking. Could I find cheaper? Yes. 2 girls at travel cost 600, 000-700, 000 (with a bigger tip) but for something this fresh? $200 USD is going to help build a home. Plus, you know that my phone will be ringing off the hook with a line of more to come and visit me!

Hell. I am already booked for 3 threesomes and the next week![/QUOTE]I think tip you give is ok rate.

It seem that you have stumble into bogor area freelance multi level marketing

Nice find, you will find stream of girl lining up for sure

Guyss,

I am really envious on you guys on your 1 week. 2 week vacations! (In which company you are working; Can you refer me? LoLz!) Being based on Singapore, I could go 3-4 days max. Well, I am back home, totally exhausted with little sleep.

Alright, on my second day I went for the site seeing & shopping. Explored the public transport system and understood the main action points. In the early night walked to the Lokasari plaza, went to the pharmacy and spend some time with the people there. The cutest one doesn't speak English but tried to assist me in finding medicines. I don't know, but I didn't spend much time there. I hope next time I don't really care what others think when Interacting with Indo girls. Walked back to my hotel, it was actually at the cross next to Cherry Spa, one big eyed girl said hello to me. I love big eyes, she told she could come for short term for 400. She was just above average so I told no, after the 2 mins talk she and her friend agreed to come hotel for 400 K for 2 hours.

I would give girl 1, 6 points while the girl 2 deserves 7. Upon reaching hotel, I understand I won't get any good service. But I wanted to shake it out without disturbing my sleep. After bath I started doing the Girl 2 in different positions and came after 30 mins. I took some rest and started doing the other girl, she was really tight! I could feel there is a kind of ring inside her pussy. It was really tight and I enjoyed her for another 30-40 mins. Given the agreed money and taxi money kicked them out.

Went for a bath and dressed and headed to the Pizza Hut for the dinner; I knew Sunday was my second and last night in CGK and went to Malioboro. The entry fee itself is 121 K, and watched the strip dance for 30 mins. I was not really in a good mood because of less sleep and 2 fucks. While returning, I wanted to know how packed stadium will be. Took the Ojek and reached Stadium at 1:15. My last night girl was there, when she saw me she was really happy and hugged and kissed me. After talking some time, she asked if we can go upstairs. I said no, because I am tired. She then started again hugging me and grinding me slowly which started to ignite the fuel. After 10 mins I decided to go up and she was really happy. But my condition was at 2 am only. So she got the permission from mammy and danced, hugged & Kissed me for 30 mins. It was really awesome! We went upstairs to start our activity. Same as my earlier days, BBJ at shower, DFK, catbath and this time she did a nice CBJ (I insisted on Cover) with my balls licked hard. The play started with fwd cowgirl and she was really aggressively did it. She found I was tired, so she was kind enough to tell me to sleep while she is on top of me. When she got tired, she lie on my top and kissed me deeply. She even tried some other positions which I believe is difficult. Then I took the charge, Miss then ended up with Doggy. She was so happy to hug me some time after that. After shower I asked her to sleep with me. She hasn't hesitated on that and hugged me tightly and kissed. I would give GFE 10/10 for this girl. She was with me at the bed until the phone rings.

I am attaching some photos. She sent me a couple of love messages & kisses, definitely I meet her when I go CGK next time.

Monday went out without any action since I wanted to visit National Monument.

And I feel unlucky not reading Sleepy Dog's post. ; it was because I did my homework on 10th morning. I am just noting down what I had got from the past 20 pages.

Cherry Spa at Lokasari : 300 k. 400 k.

Grand Comfort at the intersection of Mangga Besar and Gunung Sehari : 300 k.

Place: Kartika Panti Pijat Lia & Rista : 350 x 2.

Block M : "Jalan Feletehan" or Jalan Fellatio.

Bordello in Kota area : 300 k. 500 k.

Malioboro is 350k : indo. 800k: upper quality indo, and something like 1. 7 million: import.

Hotel Classic is 270k 1 G / hr. 400k for 2 G / hr.

Thanks / Gajith.

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1421542]Guys,

I have read the boards and there are so many recommendations and it all gets so fucking confusing, so I thought I would pose some questions for you all and would greatly appreciate any response. I am in Jakarta from the 1st July to the 7th July, staying at the Crowne for the first 3days and Mercure for the 2nd 3 days (thought I would get bot the south and north ends of Jakarta in. Anyway, my question is, what places do you recommend I visit? Thanks in advance and will post some feedback during my visit![/QUOTE]To Farq40,

You just do some RTFF read M Travel post this page there are more options in N Jarkata many KTV and Sauna walking distance or short taxi ride from Mercure hotel and place to stay great location near Lokasari Plaza.

Fast Eddie 48

Lost my 'threesome' virginity recently at the 5th Floor of Hotel Classic on Jl. KH Samanhuudi. Usually my payed sex is arranged more quietly, so walking through the door at that 5th floor into a club with thudding music and all the Chewek presented on display with topless dancers in the centre stage and heaps of local customers, threw me off and meant feeling like a deer caught in the headlights. Arriving with someone who had prior experience of the procedure and layout would have been better. Great value, but at the time the price sounded slighly higher than remembered from web browsing a week or so before deciding to check out this place.

For one Girl, it was about 310, 000 now and for a threesome it was around 450, 000, but then again perhaps mamasan saw me coming and sensed 'newbie' in me. Attempted to get the price in memory (around 400k?) but it wasn't hapening. Because of staying in an apartment with a local friend in the city, it meant being offline and unable to study this board before heading out, which didn't help matters. All I had was the address on my netbook and a few scraps of information to put on a notepad.

Considering this though, somehow it all came together and was a great opportunity to try out a FS threesome, particularly when it was two aged 21 and 25, both with petite shapely physiques and those 'lovely' Indonesian features that get thumbs up.

Looking back though, it is debatable if a threesome with such a language barrier from both sides was going to end up as varied and eventfull as imagined. People mention cases where Girls don't feel comfortable with each other, but it seemed that mine were 'too' comfortable with each other, had the upper hand due to being able to converse with each other and may have used that to their advantage to play about and resist what to me were basic and not outlandish things such as kneck kissing. 69, getting hold of hair (properly) for example. Only choosing one may have prevented that happening. Having said that, coming online again there are indications in a recent report that aversion to some of the things we take for granted elsewhere, tends to be the modus operandi in the club when it comes to FS.

Perhaps the knack will come to me about the power dynamic that goes on, if this experience is tried again. Both of them were wet and good to go with easy access when it was their turn for FS without me seeing lube being used at any time which would indicate they were in the mood, and the younger one had a nice spongey bum which was firm and shapely to look at yet you could sink your fingers and palms right into those mounds and play away as though kneading bread dough. Deciding to close the proceedings by ploughing the younger one from behind doing just that, and unloaded aggressively as the other one played with my balls and tongued my nipples.

Understood when the older one was discussing with the younger one once it was over, that foreigners usually go to Blok M. Classic was closer to my place of stay though, and was simpler to get to. Plus, the descriptions made it sound like fun.

Once you exit the lift at the 5th floor you're faced with a car park when the lift opens. Exit the lift and turn around to your left, down a short corridor and you see a desk at the end with guys. To the left of that desk and a short walk, another last desk before a door where someone checks your bag (if you have one) and a Woman places an elasticated numberd tag on your wrist, to which purchases are assigned.

Once (if) you choose a Girl / Girls, the payment for them takes place at one of the counters (did for me, at least) before going to the rooms that are situated through a door at the back (to the right) of the hall. Once all done, payment for things like drinks happens in the same manner at one of the desks before exiting the door.

Didn't have all these details when arriving, so no doubt 'obviously' a newbie.

Clean room with large bed side mirror, transparent shower, towels, etc.

[QUOTE=SleepyDog;1420671]First Time in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Superb field report on the pro establishments north of Bunderan HI (as opposed to the freelancers of south Jakarta).

Two points struck me. First the deteriorating standard of BJ's in places like Classic and Malioboro. Where once bareback BJ's was the accepted norm, covered BJ's seem now to be customary. And when the condom isn't used the tissues and never-ending spitting is turning into a real turn off.

Secondly what's with the tin of fruit? I too offered a girl a drink in the room and she also opted for a tin of lychees. Is it some sort of currency the girls use, are they selling them back to the kitchen? Any ideas?

I thought I should share this money changer info here, cause I found they are giving internet exchange rate (ie. 1 SGD = 7845 IDR). They are located at Jl. Gajah Mada No. 153, Jakarta Barat. Search in Streetdirectory Indonesia to locate the place.

[QUOTE=FrenchTouch; 1388742]Hi All,

Actually, I have been using these sites for a while and reported a few times.

Agree with Medanboy. The chatting thing helps breaking the ice. With some it will go as far as showing body, play etc on cam. Most of the times at their request in fact. Which is hard to believe but true. Then of course the first meet really goes well and fast. I had one girl two months ago who joined me straight in my hotel upon my arrival in Jakarta and she was blowing me within the next 5 minutes. The cam play had of course helped that. She then stayed the full two daysin my room and we hardly found anything else to do than eat fuck and sleep. Love to re-read her many sms messages on the way to the hotel that sounded like "I am late please wait" "I am close, am excited to meet you" "I am really close, am nervous please treat me well" etc.

Last three encounters in Jakarta were through Asiandating, which has I thinkthe same girls as indocupid (it's the same group, and sometimes girl tell me "in your profile in indocupid.". Your membership in AD gives you access not only to Indonesian women but all over the world. Which comes handy when you travel around like I do.

Like medanboy I met some who were clearly there for the action / adventure out of a bored life with local or expat bf or indo hubby who anyway goes to massage ++ or other sort of venues.

Or the long distance BF who does not come often enough. Or they don't trust him enough.

Engaged or living in partners or married women are the ones with less hassle and most of the time most enthusiastic since both of us know why we are there. And most of the times they don't sleep over. Which is not bad also.

One of my regulars has a european BF who comes maybe 3 times a year. One week max. 3 times 5 days of intense sex per year is not enough for her. What more if one of these stays happens during her period. We meete on a regular basis, once out of two times I come to Jakarta. So in average once every two months. We meet for one night. Not more. She would feel bad she told me. OK boss you rule. She knows I have others, knows how we met and knows am still active on the site. Does not hassle and is the wettest thing I ever met.

Money is seldom asked. I always pay for drinks, sometimes for dinner and eventually offer for the taxi back home. When they do not have their own car.

Hope this helps. Enjoy.

FT[/QUOTE]Good to read a report from a similar website dating soul in action.

I have this 25 year old that has been after me off and on for like 6 months. Disappears and reappears. Never got her as an on / off boyfriend issue. So I started to tell her what I was up to and that I had to ice my junk after a wild 4 hour threesome sex experience. (all communication is by text)

She wanted to know why I needed an ice pack. She understands women get sore from sex. But men should not get sore.

I explained I was a little adventurous the other night and was doing some American sex moves that were acrobatic. And I listed them for her.

The horny toad.

The hanging monkey.

The one leg ostrich.

She almost lost it. And now wants me to teach her the one leg ostrich!

The truth? I made up the names. No idea what those positions are. Or if they exist. But they will get me laid.

I really need a new hobby!

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1422725]The one leg ostrich.

She almost lost it. And now wants me to teach her the one leg ostrich!

The truth? I made up the names. No idea what those positions are. Or if they exist.[/QUOTE]Indonesian girls are adventurous. I have some suggestions for the one legged ostrich.

1) You enter the girl in a stand and carry position with her legs wrapped around you as you stand. A normal ostrich would be simply running in this position (like an ostrich). But a one legged ostrich, I guess you'd have to hop on one leg. The girl would need to be around 45 kg or less for this one.

2) You go doggy style on the girl. Have her bury her face in a pillow while you do her from behind (like an ostrich putting it's head in the sand.). You take one of your legs and put it either on the back of her head or hold it in the air. Thus the "one legged" effect.

I'm sure people have many more suggestions.

So, heading over in July, so Ramadan will be in full swing. Following advice on these pages have decided:

Classic hotel: It's got most of what I want and rooms are in my price range.

Might also check out some happy ending spas in the area.

I've only got a weekend so not too much time to explore.

I wanted to ask if anyone had good tips for high (ish) class girls in that area. Just in case the Classic doesn't keep my fully occupied.

Wish I could go outside of Ramandan, a little nervous it'll be too quiet.

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1422725]I have this 25 year old that has been after me off and on for like 6 months. Disappears and reappears. Never got her as an on / off boyfriend issue. So I started to tell her what I was up to and that I had to ice my junk after a wild 4 hour threesome sex experience. (all communication is by text)[/quote]Personally I would go with the legless Emu but hey I'm an Aussie and we don't have Ostriches!

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1422036]Okay so kinda miffed that my report on a foursome did not get me a nomination for distinction. Well giving it another try. My last report had me in a foursome with 3 girls with one being girlfriend number two and the others from a street meet.[/QUOTE]Hahahahahahaha congratulations bro, you've made it now. No need to be miffed anyway, just enjoy and share knowledge. I hope to sit and have a drink with you one of these days, if you don't mind having a drink with someone who's almost half a century old.

MD II

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1422725]The horny toad.

The hanging monkey.

The one leg ostrich.

She almost lost it. And now wants me to teach her the one leg ostrich!

The truth? I made up the names. No idea what those positions are. Or if they exist. But they will get me laid.

I really need a new hobby![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Smoothy; 1422782]Indonesian girls are adventurous. I have some suggestions for the one legged ostrich.

1) You enter the girl in a stand and carry position with her legs wrapped around you as you stand. A normal ostrich would be simply running in this position (like an ostrich). But a one legged ostrich, I guess you'd have to hop on one leg. The girl would need to be around 45 kg or less for this one.

2) You go doggy style on the girl. Have her bury her face in a pillow while you do her from behind (like an ostrich putting it's head in the sand.). You take one of your legs and put it either on the back of her head or hold it in the air. Thus the "one legged" effect.

I'm sure people have many more suggestions.[/QUOTE]I've had a stressful couple of weeks. Thank you guys, I have a new hobby now: thinking of names and hoping to co-write the Modern Karmasutra with you.:D Two variants: The hanging monkey and the hanging reverse monkey for the standing 69 and if you flip her the other way? I've also almost figured out the Horny Toad. Need to go and try it out first.;) ROFLMFAO.

MD II

In Jakarta and decided to try some new places. I like the clubs rather than the massage scenes. First stop on Wednesday was Red Square. I heard Wednesdays are happy days there. Dead at 12! 15-20 guys and 5-6 gals. Hot foot out of there to Immigrant. Nice cozy, posh place for a drink and hanging out but 8-10 girls and equal number of guys. Chatted with a group of three and one agreed to come out for 800K. Off to the Shangri-la and we see that my companion's 2 friends are also on the way to BATS. Girls downgrading from Immigrant to BATS and finally Stadium?

Things turned a bit sour in the room. She wanted to go home after one session while I think I had negotiated till morning. So the contract is off and I give her 50K as taxi money (did not touch her) since I was not too sure on what was agreed. That means down to BATS at 1:30. Few girls there including the one who went out of my room. Picked up one who I had been with before. She was happy to come and service was much better. Maybe its better to repeat since it normally means better service although I am a one woman / one time kind of guy. Damages at 700K for one session. Drunk and sleepy. So bye bye baby. She said that she's off to Stadium.

Thursday night, again hit BATS at around 12. Plenty of girls and guys. Maybe 55:45 in favor of the guys. Talked to a few but did not really hit it off with any. One of the women at the bar at the far end seemed to think her pussy is gold. What arrogance! The usual walk-about. Met a girl from Surabaya who wanted 2 mill till morning. No way.

Had been eyeing a cute couple of girls near the dance floor. One was with a Chinese / Indo guy and the other was on her own having fun and dancing. One bald dude beat me to her. Was she sexy. Braces (a bit of a turn-off). Slim, sexy body and no bra (as I discovered later). Great dancer and the dude was having a lot of fun. Was cursing myself for not talking to her earlier. Was looking at her all the time and things did not go too well between her and the guy. Took the opportunity to cut-in. She wanted a vodka, got one for myself too. 21 yrs old and straight to the point, she said that she wanted 2 mill for short time. WTF! But I was smitten. She refused offers at a mill and 1. 2. She was walking around again and I took the opportnity to fix at 1. 5 mill. Sorry to the price police. I have never paid over a million for 'long time' at BATS, CJ's and normally pay 700 to 800k. But I had to have this one.

She was worth it. Nothing to write home about the BBJ. Was reluctant to do BBJ but I insisted. Good but not great. DATY on her cute pussy. Unlike Thai girls, Indo girls normally have an odor down there but this one smelt and tasted good. DATY really got her into the mood and she had a heavy orgasm. Sex then was wild. Bucking like a wild horse. Even in missionary, she did most of the movement. Fucked her in all positions for 30 mins and she more than kept up with me. Screamed like she was being murdered all the time. Was hoping not to get a knock on the door. She was so loud!

Seems like dad is dead, does not get along with mom etc etc. Got her e-mail I'd and contacted her today. Got reply and will repeat this one.

McM.

P. S. If the 'bald guy' is reading this. Sorry mate. I really had to have her.

[QUOTE=Pez612; 1423452]So, headin over in July, so Ramadan will be in full swing. Following advice on these pages have decided:

Classic hotel: It's got most of what I want and rooms are in my price range.

I wanted to ask if anyone had good tips for high (ish) class girls in that area. Just in case the Classic doesn't keep my fully occupied.

Wish I could go outside of Ramandan, a little nervous it'll be too quiet.[/QUOTE]Emporium, malio, and alexis open during ramadan

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1423497]Hahahahahahaha congratulations bro, you've made it now. No need to be miffed anyway, just enjoy and share knowledge. I hope to sit and have a drink with you one of these days, if you don't mind having a drink with someone who's almost half a century old.

MD II[/QUOTE]BTW. We are the same age. You just lived more of a life than I!

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1423530]She refused offers at a mill and 1. 2. She was walking around again and I took the opportnity to fix at 1. 5 mill. Sorry to the price police. I have never paid over a million for 'long time' at BATS, CJ's and normally pay 700 to 800k. But I had to have this one.[/QUOTE]I was thinking I could pay freelancer in Jakarta on the same price range than Manila or Bangkok ($30/40 all night) and so I booked my flight without esitation for 30 days vacation in jakarta, but now reading posts here I might have been wrong.

Hope prices in Block M are similar to Manila and Bangkok

[QUOTE=Cooldoe;1423597]Emporium, malio, and alexis open during ramadan[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. I'm new to Indo and new to these boards, but will be sure to post on experiences when I get back.

Has anyone been to the nightclub attached to the Crowne Plaza, if so what is it like? I was looking to try it out the first night I get in Jakarta as I don't get to motel until near midnight. Otherwise any other suggestions close by?

[QUOTE=Sebans; 1423627]I was thinking I could pay freelancer in Jakarta on the same price range than Manila or Bangkok ($30/40 all night) and so I booked my flight without esitation for 30 days vacation in jakarta, but now reading posts here I might have been wrong.

Hope prices in Block M are similar to Manila and Bangkok[/QUOTE]The better looking low end freelancers for all night in Bangkok pulled from in front of Nana or Beergarten is 1500 baht last time I checked. That's $50. But that's the lower end girls. You can even get them for $1000 baht, but those are usually pretty low quality. You can get low end girls in Jakarta for the same price. If in Bangkok you want a girl as nice quality as you will get from CJs, that will cost you 3000 baht (100 USD). The price is the same in both countries. The Philippines are cheaper, but Bangkok is not cheap if you are looking for quality girls.

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1423530]Had been eyeing a cute couple of girls near the dance floor. One was with a Chinese / Indo guy and the other was on her own having fun and dancing. One bald dude beat me to her. Was she sexy. Braces (a bit of a turn-off). Slim, sexy body and no bra (as I discovered later). Great dancer and the dude was having a lot of fun. Was cursing myself for not talking to her earlier. Was looking at her all the time and things did not go too well between her and the guy. Took the opportunity to cut-in. She wanted a vodka, got one for myself too. 21 yrs old and straight to the point, she said that she wanted 2 mill for short time. WTF! But I was smitten. She refused offers at a mill and 1. 2. She was walking around again and I took the opportnity to fix at 1. 5 mill. Sorry to the price police. I have never paid over a million for 'long time' at BATS, CJ's and normally pay 700 to 800k. But I had to have this one.

She was worth it. Nothing to write home about the BBJ. Was reluctant to do BBJ but I insisted. Good but not great. DATY on her cute pussy. Unlike Thai girls, Indo girls normally have an odor down there but this one smelt and tasted good. DATY really got her into the mood and she had a heavy orgasm. Sex then was wild. Bucking like a wild horse. Even in missionary, she did most of the movement. Fucked her in all positions for 30 mins and she more than kept up with me. Screamed like she was being murdered all the time. Was hoping not to get a knock on the door. She was so loud!

Seems like dad is dead, does not get along with mom etc etc. Got her e-mail I'd and contacted her today. Got reply and will repeat this one.

McM.

P. S. If the 'bald guy' is reading this. Sorry mate. I really had to have her.[/QUOTE]Could you post a picture of her? I'm curious to see what's worth that kind of money in Jakarta. I've never given a free lancer more than a million rupiah. Considering you "had to have her" and she stuck by her price, she must be extremely hot.

[QUOTE=Sebans;1423627]I was thinking I could pay freelancer in Jakarta on the same price range than Manila or Bangkok ($30/40 all night) and so I booked my flight without esitation for 30 days vacation in jakarta, but now reading posts here I might have been wrong.[/QUOTE]Honestly you will find it hard to get those number for all night.

[QUOTE=Sebans; 1423627]I was thinking I could pay freelancer in Jakarta on the same price range than Manila or Bangkok ($30/40 all night) and so I booked my flight without esitation for 30 days vacation in jakarta, but now reading posts here I might have been wrong.

Hope prices in Block M are similar to Manila and Bangkok[/QUOTE]Wow a 30 day vacation in Jakarta for the first time. I would definately also travel a bit. I find Jakarta expensive, food, drinks, hotels and girls too I guess.

For a night out with a girl I easy pay 1. 5 jt for drinks alone. But hell those girls can party.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1423847]The better looking low end freelancers for all night in Bangkok pulled from in front of Nana or Beergarten is 1500 baht last time I checked. That's $50. But that's the lower end girls. You can even get them for $1000 baht, but those are usually pretty low quality. You can get low end girls in Jakarta for the same price. If in Bangkok you want a girl as nice quality as you will get from CJs, that will cost you 3000 baht (100 USD). The price is the same in both countries. The Philippines are cheaper, but Bangkok is not cheap if you are looking for quality girls.[/QUOTE]My experience tells me that those high quality girls are nothing else than more experienced and smarter girls wearing High heels shoes becouse they know they will look to us sexyer and more expensive. So the first think I look in a girl are the shoes and 90% of the time if they wear high heels I discard them, preferring always lower quality girls and will do so in jakarta too.

He have seen some pics of Jakarta Chewecks in the photo section and decided to think with his dick. 30 days in Big Durian without reading the F forum regarding the price range. If that is the case then he should stay in Pattaya beach road. Anyway as everybody knows the price is up in Hotel Travel, but I think Ibu Linda (spelling)

Is a good budget alt. If you don't mind middle aged ladies. Always had a nice time in there with some of the old in and out.

PB

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1424138]He have seen some pics of Jakarta Chewecks in the photo section and decided to think with his dick.[/QUOTE]I guarantee you that none of the Indonesian girls in the photos I posted were as cheap as $30 to $40 for all night. I don't pay that cheap in Bangkok either. Pattaya has girls that cheap, but I still normally don't take those. Angeles City has girls that cheap and even Manila, but I think Jakarta and Bangkok are more expensive than that.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1424154]I guarantee you that none of the Indonesian girls in the photos I posted were as cheap as $30 to $40 for all night. I don't pay that cheap in Bangkok either. Pattaya has girls that cheap, but I still normally don't take those. Angeles City has girls that cheap and even Manila, but I think Jakarta and Bangkok are more expensive than that.[/QUOTE]No they are not but Sebans don't want to understand that. Nothing is for free or aprox. Cheap here.

First day off Ramadan, middle day off the four weeks, and the first day of Eid tends to be the main problem days when most places are closed. BATS is open during these "quiet" days, and although all the lights are on and the music is subdued, there is a small number of girls. There is no cover charge for those three days so you can go in, have a look and leave pretty quickly if nothing catches your eye. But be aware, the pickings are slim, and tend to be the hard core girls.

[QUOTE=Pez612;1423452]So, headin over in July, so Ramadan will be in full swing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Irish Mongrel;1424183]First day off Ramadan, middle day off the four weeks, and the first day of Eid tends to be the main problem days when most places are closed. BATS is open during these "quiet" days, and although all the lights are on and the music is subdued, there is a small number of girls. There is no cover charge for those three days so you can go in, have a look and leave pretty quickly if nothing catches your eye. But be aware, the pickings are slim, and tend to be the hard core girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate I'll pop in there to see what's happening. Appreciate the tip.

[QUOTE=MarkIII;1423965]For a night out with a girl I easy pay 1. 5 jt for drinks alone. But hell those girls can party.[/QUOTE]I like a bargain as much as the next man and when dealing with pro's I always politely but firmly negotiate the going rate. However, there are times when money isn't everything and 1. 5 juta at the end of the day is what most of us would end up spending on food, drink and cabs on a decent weekend night out back home in the west without the opportunity of having great sex with a fit and friendly woman half our ages.

Let me recount my tale, forgive me if it's a bit long-winded.

I recently got into an affair with a married colleague, she was 23, slim, flirtatious and very pretty. Her husband was about fifteen years older than her and not providing much in the line of household finances, I also happened to know that she was in debt to a local moneylender.

Now this woman had a bit of a reputation, word was that in her past she had been on the game and certainly everything about her indicated that she was no shrinking violet, as she flirted, but oddly never seemed to actually hook up, with most men around her. Eventually as these things happen we came to clinches. She held back a bit but when it appeared I was losing interest she would subtly advance the courtship, women are good at this kind of thing, as I'm sure you've all noticed.

Anyway eventually we were meeting up for regular sessions which were fantastic for all manner of sexual exploits except full intercourse. You see she felt that would be betraying her husband! Now no amount of explaining that sucking my c0ck and letting me empty a full load down her throat would in all probability be regarded as a bit of a betrayal by her better half. I recall her having long phone conversations with her hubby explaining how she'd be stopping off on the way home to pick up some groceries as I wriggled three fingers up inside her pussy and she squirmed her ass onto my tongue as it penetrated that particular orifice, but full penetrative sex, no, not on.

Now I should point out that I would usually slip her some cash as transport money but she was very prickly lest I imply that I was paying her for the session. It was just a little present for a good friend.

Well this continued for a while but eventually I was getting a bit frustrated with the limitation she had set. I began to want badly to give her a proper seeing to as I knew it would be well worth it. However as it turned out she lost her job and moved to the sticks to live with hubby. I was now certain that she must be in serious financial straits so keeping in contact with her by sms I would ask her to come to visit me in Jakarta, I would pay her expenses of course but I naturally expected a bit more from her than she had so far given, but she kept insisting that she wasn't prepared to go that far.

Eventually she asked me straight up for 1. 5 million to pay off her debts. I scoffed at this, pointing out that I could get a Russian model in a club for that (she didn't need to know that a) I don't like Russian girls or be) none of them are models). She retorted that she wasn't that type of woman, losing patience a bit I told her in no uncertain terms that I knew damn well that she was that type of woman, everyone did. She was outraged at this but still wondered whether I could see my way to the mil and a half. Finally I snapped, yes, ok. 1.5 mill but we spend the afternoon in the hotel and no holds barred. She replied that she would be prepared to do as we had always done but she would not betray her husband but could she still have the 1. 5 million. By this stage the amount of cash mattered little, I was determined to win this battle of wills.

I told her I would meet her at the station at 2pm the next day, I would pick her up take her to the hotel, leave her back to the station, cover travel costs and put 1. 5 million in her hand as she left, provided we went the whole way. There was no reply.

The next day I went to the station, she did not come. I was disappointed, but the funny thing is I think I might have been more disappointed had she caved, she was a proud woman and I admire her for that, I'm not sure I didn't feel a bit of a heel after it all.

Later I went on to a restaurant for dinner, then to a bar, had a few drinks, met a bar girl whose name and face I don't remember, bought her drinks and some food, went back to the hotel for not especially memorable sex.

Tally for the whole rather unexciting evening? Just over 1. 5 million.

Sometimes price isn't everything.

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1424175]No they are not but Sebans don't want to understand that. Nothing is for free or aprox. Cheap here.[/QUOTE]Well then he can try jakarta street pick up or venture into the kalijodo or daan mogot area.

I cannot vouch for his safety though.

[QUOTE=Sebans; 1423627]I was thinking I could pay freelancer in Jakarta on the same price range than Manila or Bangkok ($30/40 all night) and so I booked my flight without esitation for 30 days vacation in jakarta, but now reading posts here I might have been wrong.

Hope prices in Block M are similar to Manila and Bangkok[/QUOTE]IDR 500-600 levels (or lower) are quoted quite frequently at Block M. So if you like that, its quite possible.

I do enjoy the convenience and the safety of the clubs in the 5* hotels and prefer not to venture outside of the prime areas.

Hope you have a good time.

Cheers,

McM

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1423847]The better looking low end freelancers for all night in Bangkok pulled from in front of Nana or Beergarten is 1500 baht last time I checked. That's $50. But that's the lower end girls. You can even get them for $1000 baht, but those are usually pretty low quality. You can get low end girls in Jakarta for the same price. If in Bangkok you want a girl as nice quality as you will get from CJs, that will cost you 3000 baht (100 USD). The price is the same in both countries. The Philippines are cheaper, but Bangkok is not cheap if you are looking for quality girls.[/QUOTE]In terms of cost to the places I frequent in these places, the range I have paid as follows:

Manila.

Cafe Havana. PHP 3000. USD 73.

ICON. 5* disco. PHP3000.

Jakarta.

BATS. 700K. 1 mn. USD73. 100 (unless you count the 1. 5 mn I paid last time LOL)

CJ's. Same as above Bangkok.

BANGKOK.

Climax Disco. 2500 to 3000 THB. USD 85 to 100.

Insomnia. 2000 to 3000 THB. USD 70 to 100.

Q Bar (High Class Club). Quoted 4000 to 6000 THB. Not partaken.

Spasso (5* club). Taken out 3000 to 6000. USD100-200 depending on hotness.

Once was quoted 10, 000THB WTF.

If you ask me, Manila is cheapest, Jakarta is in between and BKK is gotten expensive now.

Cheers,

McM

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1423871]Could you post a picture of her? I'm curious to see what's worth that kind of money in Jakarta. I've never given a free lancer more than a million rupiah. Considering you "had to have her" and she stuck by her price, she must be extremely hot.[/QUOTE]Sorry Smoothy, I do not take pics normally. If she meets next time, let me try.

McM

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1424501]Let me recount my tale, forgive me if it's a bit long-winded.I recently got into an affair with a married colleague,[/QUOTE]Nice story HiLo. Thanks for sharing! TTG

[QUOTE=Valkyrie; 1223560]1. Asking for info before reading anything.

2. Asking for info in your first post before reading anything.

3. Asking for info in your first post before reading anything and it is demanding.

All the following offense above may result in INTENSE flaming from members of the board.

What newbies should do before shooting their mouth:

1. Read at least 20 pages back before asking obvious questions.

2. Not say Hi then immediately jump into the question. Polite background of where you had been and where you had posted before helps.

3. Not expecting help immediately from the first post.

I know it sounded a little offensive. But I get more than usual mails related to Surabaya areas since Christmas is approaching. And I got cranky.

By the way. I am going to visit Jakarta for Christmas. Luckily I know all the places to visit already. Not going to trouble anyone at all. Keep it up, seniors and juniors![/QUOTE]I was doing some reading last night and as a new mongerer to this site I stumbled across this article some 90+ pages back and thought mmmmmmmmmmmmmm great advice. I will take heed!

I myself am going to Jakarta for 9 days starting July and can hardly wait! I look forward to reading more from these pages and taking some notes for my trip.

For those of you in Jakarta from the 1st, hit me up as I would be keen to get some guidance during my trip. Cheers lads.

This is my feedback from a short 4 days stay in Jakarta.

Jakarta scene is a bit complex it's doesn't really have easy to go places like Nana Plaza or Soi Cowbow or Burgos in MNL.

So I would recommand to Jakarta virgins to use the services of JAD ([url]http://www.jakartaafterdark.com/[/url])

This will save you the troubles of the « learning curve » which can be quite long in Jakarta. If you don't know and stay short time, you won't be able to enjoy your visit.

I believe I did the whole tour (the newbie one at least.)

300K places such as : Classic, Hotel Travel, Stadium.

Pick up bars such as : CJ's, Top Gun in Blok M.

Spa : Alexis.

Alexis is a nice place for those that like Macau style places. But I had a disapointing service (compare to the 300K one). As I paid 2, 5 for the service, entrance, drink I can't really recommand the place! :)

As JAD says, « in Jakarta paying more doesn't ensure better services, it just means you'll fuck a better looking girl by indonesian standards »

That means tall / thin girl with a lighter complexion.

Overall I have mixed feeelings about Jakarta. It's a promising place, but I've had more luck with Manila girls. Also communications is easier as most girls in the Phils speak english properly.

But thanks to JAD I've had a pleasant time in Jakarta.

I will certainly return though and try to meet girls from the internet scene (escorts, dating sites etc.)

Photos speak enough. at1 year old brought a new 19 year old. We experimented and I am tired. Night guys. Photos are one hour old.

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1424655]I was doing some reading last night and as a new mongerer to this site I stumbled across this article some 90+ pages back and thought mmmmmmmmmmmmmm great advice. I will take heed!

I myself am going to Jakarta for 9 days starting July and can hardly wait! I look forward to reading more from these pages and taking some notes for my trip.

For those of you in Jakarta from the 1st, hit me up as I would be keen to get some guidance during my trip. Cheers lads.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about that date? As I recall Ramadan will be in full swing in July and pickings will be slim.

Jakarta is not hit as hard as other areas but you may want to check.

Bali is not affected by Ramadan. The place is mainly buddhist.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1422340]Superb field report on the pro establishments north of Bunderan HI (as opposed to the freelancers of south Jakarta).

Two points struck me. First the deteriorating standard of BJ's in places like Classic and Malioboro. Where once bareback BJ's was the accepted norm, covered BJ's seem now to be customary. And when the condom isn't used the tissues and never-ending spitting is turning into a real turn off.

Secondly what's with the tin of fruit? I too offered a girl a drink in the room and she also opted for a tin of lychees. Is it some sort of currency the girls use, are they selling them back to the kitchen? Any ideas?[/QUOTE]You can try the VIP room in D's Place in Blok M. I had several BJ's there and all were uncovered including CIM.

FS is also possible in the VIP room if you don't mind having a couple of expats looking on from a distance.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1424779]Are you sure about that date? As I recall Ramadan will be in full swing in July and pickings will be slim.

Jakarta is not hit as hard as other areas but you may want to check.

Bali is not affected by Ramadan. The place is mainly buddhist.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]My friend google says that Ramadan is from July 9th.

I hope I have the date correct as I get there from the 1st.

[QUOTE=Cooldoe; 1424533]Well then he can try jakarta street pick up or venture into the kalijodo or daan mogot area.

I cannot vouch for his safety though.[/QUOTE]There is No need to take street walkers to save money. Is enough no to go with the best looking girls from the most expensive places.

I let the stunners in high heels and evening dress to the Business men or the tourist that stay a couple of days and like to party like is theyr last day on the planet.

I always stay long time in the same place and like to concentrate on the more casual places and girls, In the first days I will visit the most Known places in North, and South jakarta and will choose the ones I prefer, so I don't even need the help of JAD that concentrates more on brothels and escorts that I don't use.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1424795]You can try the VIP room in D's Place in Blok M. I had several BJ's there and all were uncovered including CIM.

FS is also possible in the VIP room if you don't mind having a couple of expats looking on from a distance.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Thanks Ken, yes I was referring specifically to the pro-shops in North Jakarta which are beginning to turn into Wal-Mart style operations. I do still prefer the nickel and dime operators of South Jakarta. I have thoroughly enjoyed BBJ's and FS on many occasions in the VIP room of D's, I prefer the secluded dark corner by the bar and always tip one of the older girls to stand sentry duty to ensure privacy, not that anyone is in the least bit interested anyway.

I like it.

Well I was wondering how much you guys usually pay for FS with the in-hotel massage services. Lets say 500. 000 IDR till 800. 000IDR hotels in jakarta. I have not yet experienced a single hotel in jakarta or medan where they offer HJ but do not want BJ or FS. Although I usually do have to propose the BJ or FS myself.

In my experience an extended sessions is around 250. 000-300. 000 for the massage itself and I can not get to settle the girls for less then 1 till 1. 3 juta total (massage + FS included). The older they are the less they seem to let the price go down. BJ or FS negotation usually seems to be the same price for the same girl which I find rather odd. In le grandeur manga dua 1. 4 juta would usually do it for the most gorgeous women (around 25-27 year old) I saw in indonesia, on the downside the actual action after the massage is a little bit time-limited. I enjoy the massages so usually we discuss extra service at the end. I realize this are very high prizes compared to freelancer and standard spa's. That is why I wonder if I am the only one who can not negotiate for in room massage. Usually they ask how much I want to give, but a low or high opening bid does not seem to change anything.

Any personal experiences? Or perhaps negotation tips. I do not want to ruin the market prize. I realize the room prize gives a bad start negotiation entry already.

Bros,

I'm amazed we do this every year, but for the benefit of those making their travel plans, I'll try and make it clear. Please do correct me if I get any facts wrong.

Ramadhan may start either 9th or 10th July and the Eid will follow either 7th or 8th August. Some girls will leave Jakarta before Ramadhan and some before the end of Ramadhan to home to their families. It's also a time of discipline and fasting, hence some girls will not indulge in anything between sunrise and sunset. There will always be exceptions to the rule and it should also be noted that not all girls are Muslims. Incidentally Ko, Bali is predominantly Hindu. Although a lot of Javanese women are "working" there now. I was chatting with one of the old FLs I knew from quite a while back; she told me that she had long since stopped going to CJs, but will be heading there to get some money for the fasting month (ironic really). If you do see her, be nice but be firm with your pricing. Her pic is attached below.

The net result is that most bars outside of hotels will shut down for the month and even the ones in hotels will close middle of the month and for the first two days of the Eid. Girls will be looking for money before the start of the month and those that stay until about the third week or so, will be looking for money to celebrate with their families too. There will be fewer girls around and in some cases they will be more discrete (I believe the Maribaya girls fall into this category) so please do your planning and homework. Some of the better connected places will still operate (read: Alexis, Malioboro, Travel etc) but do check beforehand.

The other topic frequently coming up is the pricing. Please do listen to the seniors who have been advising here; they have nothing to gain by giving false information. BTW Sebans, a cheaper girl doesn't necessarily mean less experienced. Some of the hardcore Blok M girls fall close to your price range, it's just that they can't find anyone to pay outrageous sums anymore. If you are really worried on the budget, go for the dating sites, after all, you have 30 days. That's more than enough time to date here. Within the dating sites, you'll still find the pros, the part timers and (in JAD's words) the civilians. The part timers are normally prettier and more demanding of your financial resources (read more expensive) but play your cards right and (if you're young and reasonably attractive) prices can come down.

Among the civilians (my area of interest) there are those truly seeking love; those who are seeking love but wouldn't mind some fun along the way; some looking for an escape to a foreign land; the ones seeking friendship and hoping they'll find love but don't mind some fun and a few just looking to have fun. Then there are some looking for something but they haven't made up their minds yet. I can't count the number who've expressed interest in me (and my profile is pretty clear that I'm not serious) yet when I check their profile, they're looking for marriage - so go figure. Within all these categories, there are some who expect oleh oleh (presents) and some who don't. Some who want to go out partying, and others who want to have a romantic dinner (plus a few who just want to come to your hotel room and have a good seeing to). Cheapest date: just about zero (I still give the minimum of chocolates). Most expensive date: 4 Million rupiahs plus shopping (she was regular and it wasn't every time that we went shopping or went out like that. Nice restaurant plus out for drinks and clubbing). My average date cost is around 200-500k depending on the person and the restaurant we go to.

Incidentally, if you do have a date, it's a hell of a lot cheaper going out for drinks and clubbing in Kemang rather than in BATS / CJs etc. Places like Dragonfly will kill your budget. The "normal" clubs are generally cheaper than the FL clubs for drinks but just check before you walk in. A simple indicator being the price of a bottle of vodka: if it's around 2 million and up, then you know the drinks are going to slaughter you. I think the club in Crowne Plaza (Retro?) is cheaper but not an FL joint last time I went. I don't dare comment on the price of drinks further than that as it's not really my area of expertise (although I've fallen prey to buying the odd Long Island for a girl here and there). If in doubt - or you're lazy to read and take in the advice here - seek the services of JAD.

MD II

What bugs me is that you guys always receive tons of interests and emails from young and sexy Jakarta girls on DIA and Indo cupid or Tagged and Badoo. I also have accounts on DIA and Indo cupid (gold) and Tagged and Badoo but I always receive only messages from old, ugly and overweight women living in Kalimantan, Irian Jaya or Medan or any far flung corner. Even I state specifically that I am not interested in Old fat mamas with kids.

Maybe the reason is that I am 39 years old and perhaps you guys are all in your early twenties and handsome like Brad Pitt in his best years. That of course would explain a lot.

I always have to message the ones I like myself but maybe 5 to 10% of them actually replies. But they do of course also receive shitloads of emails from guys.

[QUOTE=Medanboy; 1424974]Well I was wondering how much you guys usually pay for FS with the in-hotel massage services. Snip!

Snip That is why I wonder if I am the only one who can not negotiate for in room massage. Usually they ask how much I want to give, but a low or high opening bid does not seem to change anything.

Any personal experiences? Or perhaps negotation tips. I do not want to ruin the market prize. I realize the room prize gives a bad start negotiation entry already.[/QUOTE]Please see the report I just posted in the Jakarta Hotels thread. TTG is not smart enough to know how to put the reply in the correct forum. Sigh!

Anyway, no, you are not the only one who has trouble negotiating for in-room massage, as you will see from my old report. Negotiating with a PYT naked is never easy, Medanboy! TTG

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy; 1425058]Please see the report I just posted in the Jakarta Hotels thread. TTG is not smart enough to know how to put the reply in the correct forum. Sigh!

Anyway, no, you are not the only one who has trouble negotiating for in-room massage, as you will see from my old report. Negotiating with a PYT naked is never easy, Medanboy! TTG[/QUOTE]That's why they tease you and get you excited before popping the question if there's anything else you want. They'll be smiling staring down at the towel tent or (if there's no towel) the clear signs that you're not in the strongest negotiating position. The thing is that they might be just as horny as you, it's just that they haven't been "teased" into the same predicament yet.

Medanboy, you can't spoil the market really. The hotel in house massages are all more or less similar in price. Perhaps you need to "disturb" them during the massage and throw in the odd flirt. It does work upon occasion to help in the negotiation if they themselves get intrigued. It certainly isn't the cheapest way to have your fun. Alternatively suggest that they massage you in their underwear from the start. If they're open for anything, they will be open to this too. I managed some decent negotiations this way. You certainly aren't as compromised during negotiations somehow. Good luck.

MD II

hey mates:

just so you know, weird things are happening in the north part of jakarta. multiple clubs have been raided multiple times in the last 3-4 weeks. stadium, millenium, millie's, and illegal's have all seen police and military enter and patrons were [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] tested on the spot. google this and you will find tons of newspaper reports if you don't believe me. in all cases police had people in the clubs before to look things over before starting the raid. good news is all of these raids had to do with drugs and not the "other activities" that are agaist the law. but if you fancy more than a drink just know you could find yourself in a hot mess. also, if they decide they want to extort from the foreign bule caught with his pants down, you better hope your atm card works well. no one is sure why this is happening. but be careful. so far they have not targeted places such as sun city or malio, but for now i would stay out of places where drugs are the norm.

Been in Jakarta 2 weeks so far. I speak fluent Bahasa but I am very notorious (or famous) for not being able to pick up girls in Jakarta. So far only had 3 girls all of them from Tagged. They were ok looking, one of them was actually quite ok and I want to meet her more but after she met me 2 times she mysteriously disappeared from the face of the earth (her phone would also not be active anymore). Probably gone off to some far away island with a bule.

Malls, bars and clubs don't do it for me. I am simply unable to pick up in those places weird as it may sound (yes I am a real bule guy from Europe 100% white). I went to Gaja Mada Mall in Kota the other day for a stroll around that old sad mall. I noticed I was the only bule in that mall, didn; t see one other foreigner there apart from some Indians and Arabs. Got some looks there but the girls were mediocre at best, so I didn't try to engage anyone.

So not much action for me, been sleeping alone most nights. I am staying in a nice Kos in the Kuningan area and it does not help that my neighbour (an Arab guy living in Australia) has a handphone full of gorgeous girls (I saw 79) of whom one comes to visit him every night. The girls that visit him always come in their own car and he assured me they are not rich callgirls but just rich girls with either rich parents or well paying jobs, so this Arab is never paying one rupia (not even taxi money) to the girls. I seen at least 17 different girls coming to stay with him since I checked into the Kos. All of them super model quality. And here I am having just slept with 3 girls of whom 2 were very average in looks and body (bit overweight).

I hope things will pick up the next weeks but I am not really sure, DIA is not delivering, the same goes for Indo cupid. Tagged and Badoo have also not brought any new prospects the last couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1425377]Been in Jakarta 2 weeks so far. I speak fluent Bahasa but I am very notorious (or famous) for not being able to pick up girls in Jakarta. So far only had 3 girls all of them from Tagged. They were ok looking, one of them was actually quite ok and I want to meet her more but after she met me 2 times she mysteriously disappeared from the face of the earth (her phone would also not be active anymore). Probably gone off to some far away island with a bule.

I hope things will pick up the next weeks but I am not really sure, DIA is not delivering, the same goes for Indo cupid. Tagged and Badoo have also not brought any new prospects the last couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]I'm mystified bro. Perhaps you should ask the Arab guy his secret. Indo Cupid, Tagged and Badoo have all delivered in spades for me, and I'm not bule. If I was, I could have had even more prospects. What your Arab neighbour is doing is perfectly feasible. Is he young and decent looking? Is that Kost the one with a rooftop lounge area near their little gym. Rasuna Icon if I remember correctly? All the same, you should have plenty of choice if you're willing to pay. To think that Jakarta could be a cewek desert for bules. The mind boggles.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1425464]I'm mystified bro. Perhaps you should ask the Arab guy his secret. Indo Cupid, Tagged and Badoo have all delivered in spades for me, and I'm not bule. If I was, I could have had even more prospects. What your Arab neighbour is doing is perfectly feasible. Is he young and decent looking? Is that Kost the one with a rooftop lounge area near their little gym. Rasuna Icon if I remember correctly? All the same, you should have plenty of choice if you're willing to pay. To think that Jakarta could be a cewek desert for bules. The mind boggles.

MD II[/QUOTE]The Arab guy is around 46, so a couple of years older then me, apart from that I cannot judge if he is handsome or not. Yes it is indeed in the pedurenan area that kos. There are actually quite a few other bule guys staying there who seem to bring girls to their place also on a daily and sometimes even hourly basis.

I know what you mean, for a white guy Jakarta is heaven, probably even better then heaven, but for some reasons I always miss out on the girls, mabye I am too shy or not confident enough or too negative in my thinking but whatever it is, I get less girls then the average Western bloke at age 45 or over would get in his own country.

Well they say exceptions confirm the rule, so perhaps I am the (unlucky) exception that confirms the rule of law in Jakarta and the rest of Indonesia

[QUOTE=Sebans;1424128]My experience tells me that those high quality girls are nothing else than more experienced and smarter girls wearing High heels shoes becouse they know they will look to us sexyer and more expensive. So the first think I look in a girl are the shoes and 90% of the time if they wear high heels I discard them, preferring always lower quality girls and will do so in jakarta too.[/QUOTE]Good observation. Also, keep an eye on their mobile phone. If it is a iphone5 or 8 inch samsung tablet I stay the fuck away. Theones with the shitty nokia candybar phones are the ones you are going to get the least pressure from money-wise.

[quote=pikefish; 1425303]hey mates:

just so you know, weird things are happening in the north part of jakarta. multiple clubs have been raided multiple times in the last 3-4 weeks. stadium, millenium, millie's, and illegal's have all seen police and military enter and patrons were [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] tested on the spot. google this and you will find tons of newspaper reports if you don't believe me. in all cases police had people in the clubs before to look things over before starting the raid. good news is all of these raids had to do with drugs and not the "other activities" that are agaist the law. but if you fancy more than a drink just know you could find yourself in a hot mess. also, if they decide they want to extort from the foreign bule caught with his pants down, you better hope your atm card works well. no one is sure why this is happening. but be careful. so far they have not targeted places such as sun city or malio, but for now i would stay out of places where drugs are the norm.[/quote]was in millenium a few weeks ago for 3 nights in a row. i am happy they didn't test me that time.

but it has been going on for some time now (stadium was also raided by the police the end of april). maybe it's because the coming ramadam.

good advice to stay away, or be prepared to pay an "exit fee".

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1425377]Been in Jakarta 2 weeks so far. I speak fluent Bahasa but I am very notorious (or famous) for not being able to pick up girls in Jakarta. So far only had 3 girls all of them from Tagged. They were ok looking, one of them was actually quite ok and I want to meet her more but after she met me 2 times she mysteriously disappeared from the face of the earth (her phone would also not be active anymore). Probably gone off to some far away island with a bule.

Malls, bars and clubs don't do it for me. I am simply unable to pick up in those places weird as it may sound (yes I am a real bule guy from Europe 100% white). I went to Gaja Mada Mall in Kota the other day for a stroll around that old sad mall. I noticed I was the only bule in that mall, didn; t see one other foreigner there apart from some Indians and Arabs. Got some looks there but the girls were mediocre at best, so I didn't try to engage anyone.

So not much action for me, been sleeping alone most nights. I am staying in a nice Kos in the Kuningan area and it does not help that my neighbour (an Arab guy living in Australia) has a handphone full of gorgeous girls (I saw 79) of whom one comes to visit him every night. The girls that visit him always come in their own car and he assured me they are not rich callgirls but just rich girls with either rich parents or well paying jobs, so this Arab is never paying one rupia (not even taxi money) to the girls. I seen at least 17 different girls coming to stay with him since I checked into the Kos. All of them super model quality. And here I am having just slept with 3 girls of whom 2 were very average in looks and body (bit overweight).

I hope things will pick up the next weeks but I am not really sure, DIA is not delivering, the same goes for Indo cupid. Tagged and Badoo have also not brought any new prospects the last couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]I doubt if he is arab that he does not pay for it. Unless he is really good looking. Most girls in jakarta in my opinion do not like arabs, so they usually ask big prices at them. On the other hand the advantage for him seems to be arab AND australia. It makes him a muslim which could be great for the family, and he lives in the closest bule paradise: australia.

With speaking bahasa the dating girls should love you, I am not sure what seems to go wrong. For clubs it is easier with a wingman if you want a civilian, it is what I miss when I go alone to jakarta. Actually socializing with the male local compagnions works quite good. In bars go sit next to the lady boss. For malls, go sit next to them and talk. One of the most stunning normal (I think) girls I had said that she almost never clubs and in the malls she just wants the guy to come to her and say hello and ask stupid questions. As most of them do not get the signals she sends. If you do get them usually its a semi-pro in action and then it should be obvious.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1425069]That's why they tease you and get you excited before popping the question if there's anything else you want. They'll be smiling staring down at the towel tent or (if there's no towel) the clear signs that you're not in the strongest negotiating position. The thing is that they might be just as horny as you, it's just that they haven't been "teased" into the same predicament yet.

Medanboy, you can't spoil the market really. The hotel in house massages are all more or less similar in price. Perhaps you need to "disturb" them during the massage and throw in the odd flirt. It does work upon occasion to help in the negotiation if they themselves get intrigued. It certainly isn't the cheapest way to have your fun. Alternatively suggest that they massage you in their underwear from the start. If they're open for anything, they will be open to this too. I managed some decent negotiations this way. You certainly aren't as compromised during negotiations somehow. Good luck.

MD II[/QUOTE]I never seem to get a towel anymore. They put a big one on the bed, I get naked and go lye down. I used to get towels, how they know.

[QUOTE=MarkIII; 1425586]Was in Millenium a few weeks ago for 3 nights in a row. I am happy they didn't test me that time.

But it has been going on for some time now (Stadium was also raided by the police the end of April). Maybe it's because the coming Ramadam.

Good advice to stay away, or be prepared to pay an "exit fee".[/QUOTE]Or maybe be smart and stick to beer and other liquids instead of pills and powders.

Personally I have never understood these "party drugs". If you need drugs to enjoy a party, maybe the party is no fun at all?

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1425040]Bros,

I'm amazed we do this every year, but for the benefit of those making their travel plans, I'll try and make it clear. Please do correct me if I get any facts wrong.

<SNIP Incidentally Ko, Bali is predominantly Hindu.

<SNIP

MD II[/QUOTE]You are right, of course. Not being religious myself, I mix these things up.

Otherwise, excellent summing up.

For future readers: Ramadan and other Muslim holidays shift forward a few days every year because Muslims use a lunar calendar instead of a solar calendar. To complicate things further there is disagreement among Muslims whether Mekka or the local situation should be used as reference for the determination of the start of certain holidays.

In 2011 this resulted in a last minute change of the start date of Ramadan in Indonesia.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1425476]The Arab guy is around 46, so a couple of years older then me, apart from that I cannot judge if he is handsome or not. Yes it is indeed in the pedurenan area that kos. There are actually quite a few other bule guys staying there who seem to bring girls to their place also on a daily and sometimes even hourly basis.

I know what you mean, for a white guy Jakarta is heaven, probably even better then heaven, but for some reasons I always miss out on the girls, mabye I am too shy or not confident enough or too negative in my thinking but whatever it is, I get less girls then the average Western bloke at age 45 or over would get in his own country.

Well they say exceptions confirm the rule, so perhaps I am the (unlucky) exception that confirms the rule of law in Jakarta and the rest of Indonesia[/QUOTE]Maybe you should contact one of the other guys who are in Jakarta now and see if you can go out hunting with them? Have some drinks and compare notes. You never know what might crop up. I just can't help thinking there's something that can be done to change your luck.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II;1425732]Maybe you should contact one of the other guys who are in Jakarta now and see if you can go out hunting with them?[/QUOTE]What he needs to do is contact JAD. ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1425817]What he needs to do is contact JAD. ;)[/QUOTE]You're right mate. JustABule, if you want the contact, please go to his website or PM me if you you need more help getting in touch with him. JAB needs JAD.

MD II

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1425377]Been in Jakarta 2 weeks so far. I speak fluent Bahasa but I am very notorious (or famous) for not being able to pick up girls in Jakarta. So far only had 3 girls all of them from Tagged. They were ok looking, one of them was actually quite ok and I want to meet her more but after she met me 2 times she mysteriously disappeared from the face of the earth (her phone would also not be active anymore). Probably gone off to some far away island with a bule.

Malls, bars and clubs don't do it for me. I am simply unable to pick up in those places weird as it may sound (yes I am a real bule guy from Europe 100% white). I went to Gaja Mada Mall in Kota the other day for a stroll around that old sad mall. I noticed I was the only bule in that mall, didn; t see one other foreigner there apart from some Indians and Arabs. Got some looks there but the girls were mediocre at best, so I didn't try to engage anyone.

So not much action for me, been sleeping alone most nights. I am staying in a nice Kos in the Kuningan area and it does not help that my neighbour (an Arab guy living in Australia) has a handphone full of gorgeous girls (I saw 79) of whom one comes to visit him every night. The girls that visit him always come in their own car and he assured me they are not rich callgirls but just rich girls with either rich parents or well paying jobs, so this Arab is never paying one rupia (not even taxi money) to the girls. I seen at least 17 different girls coming to stay with him since I checked into the Kos. All of them super model quality. And here I am having just slept with 3 girls of whom 2 were very average in looks and body (bit overweight).

I hope things will pick up the next weeks but I am not really sure, DIA is not delivering, the same goes for Indo cupid. Tagged and Badoo have also not brought any new prospects the last couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]Well, if you leave out the arab part and the kos thing of your neighbour, you have given a perfect description of Master Diver II 's routine in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1425464]I'm mystified bro. Perhaps you should ask the Arab guy his secret. Indo Cupid, Tagged and Badoo have all delivered in spades for me, and I'm not bule. If I was, I could have had even more prospects. What your Arab neighbour is doing is perfectly feasible. Is he young and decent looking? Is that Kost the one with a rooftop lounge area near their little gym. Rasuna Icon if I remember correctly? All the same, you should have plenty of choice if you're willing to pay. To think that Jakarta could be a cewek desert for bules. The mind boggles.

MD II[/QUOTE]Maybe he has mistaken you for an Arab, bro. The rest of the story fits your profile!

5 weeks to go until a go until I to Jakarta and cause a ruckus. Been studying these pages like there is no tomorrow!

Counting the days!

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1426101]5 weeks to go until a go until I to Jakarta and cause a ruckus. Been studying these pages like there is no tomorrow!

Counting the days![/QUOTE]With a bit of luck you should arrive just after the end of Ramadan. Don't now how long you will stay in Jakarta, but the girls should be arriving back by then. An additional perk will be "sisters day". Girls coming back from the kampung bring their younger sisters and introduce them to the Jakarta nightlife. I have witnessed this a couple of times in Jalan Pelatehan (Blok M) and I was often pleasantly suprised by the amount of new talent.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel;1426688]With a bit of luck you should arrive just after the end of Ramadan. Don't now how long you will stay in Jakarta, but the girls should be arriving back by then.[/QUOTE]Sorry, man, completely wrong. In 5 weeks Ramadan hasn't even started. It's roughly 8-July until 8-August. So he's arriving just before the fasting month begins. IMO pretty bad timing. Good luck!

Cheers!

Well my luck has changed a bit. Just 6 days ago I met a girl who is exactly my type body wise, and she seems to be a nice person too. The problem is that she is insatiable in the bed (just 20 years old) , and she wants it a lot. It's becoming a bit hard for me to keep up with her. Now I never have needed it before but I think I need some (medical) help. So I went to the Pharmacy to ask for Cialis or something else but it is bloody expensive (BTW 80. 000 and 100. 000 for one tablet).

So I would ask the forum where can I find (safe and decent quality) viagra or cialis or kamagra or whatever works? People speak about Kota and I do speak fluent Bahasa but I don't know if that's the good place.

[QUOTE=Medanboy; 1425684]I doubt if he is arab that he does not pay for it. Unless he is really good looking. Most girls in jakarta in my opinion do not like arabs, so they usually ask big prices at them. On the other hand the advantage for him seems to be arab AND australia. It makes him a muslim which could be great for the family, and he lives in the closest bule paradise: australia.

With speaking bahasa the dating girls should love you, I am not sure what seems to go wrong. For clubs it is easier with a wingman if you want a civilian, it is what I miss when I go alone to jakarta. Actually socializing with the male local compagnions works quite good. In bars go sit next to the lady boss. For malls, go sit next to them and talk. One of the most stunning normal (I think) girls I had said that she almost never clubs and in the malls she just wants the guy to come to her and say hello and ask stupid questions. As most of them do not get the signals she sends. If you do get them usually its a semi-pro in action and then it should be obvious.

I never seem to get a towel anymore. They put a big one on the bed, I get naked and go lye down. I used to get towels, how they know.[/QUOTE]Medanboy you make sense. The other day me and the Arab guy had some beers in front of the local 7eleven, and ofcourse the topic "girls" dominated our conversaton. He told me he is not handsome at all but the fact that he is from Australia or living there and Arab makes him interesting for quite some local girls. He actually said that. Many girls he date indeed want to make a serious relationship with him, also the rich ones and sometimes he gives in for a while but there are too many waiting so it is impossible to stay faithfull more then a couple of weeks with one.

I do speak fluent Bahasa and some girls like it. There are also quite a number however who are suspicious of bule guys speaking Bahasa (has been around the block for a while). Some do prefer fresh meat.

Malls for me are quite impossible. I don't receive many signals and when I do it is usually so unexpected that I don't (or don't know how to) react. Back home usually I bang my head on the wall for not having been more reactive. For approaching girls who are not looking (for instance girls sitting in cafe's alone or with 2) I am just not cut out for that I guess, too nervous and don't know how to make the move. I've been in Jakarta many years and I never ever picked up a girl in a mall, I almost never even got a number. I might be too shy.

[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1426795]Sorry, man, completely wrong. In 5 weeks Ramadan hasn't even started. It's roughly 8-July until 8-August. So he's arriving just before the fasting month begins. IMO pretty bad timing. Good luck!

Cheers![/QUOTE]According to the website of the Indonesian Embassy to the Netherlands Eid al Fitr (or Idul Fitri as many Indonesians call it) is 5, 6.7, 8 & 9 August this year. This is regarded as National Holiday. Ramadan is not specifically mentioned, since for your average Indonesian its is not a holiday, but Idul Ftri marks the end of Ramadan.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=JustABule;1426820].I do speak fluent Bahasa and some girls like it. There are also quite a number however who are suspicious of bule guys speaking Bahasa (has been around the block for a while). Some do prefer fresh meat.[/QUOTE]The main reason why some girls prefer "fresh meat" is not because it's "fresh" but because the girl thinks that they have a better opportunity to overcharge / fleece the guy for money.

Any bule who speaks fluent Indonesian by definition is an experienced Jakarta hand and thus knows the ground rules and prices. In most cases, a bule who is fluent in Bahasa will have more girls, not less, available to him, but the gold-diggers will stay away.

Still can't figure out why you're having such bad luck with girls. I'm an overweight guy who was in my mid-50s whewn I mongered in Jakarta (2004-09) and had girls propositioning me all the time, even when I wasn't looking. One memorable moment was when I sat at Starbucks by the Plaza Indonesia entrance at 6 p.m. one Friday evening with a 2 1/2 year old child in my lap and had two attractive mid-20s women separately come to me and give me their cell number, saying "call me later"

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1426101]5 weeks to go until a go until I to Jakarta and cause a ruckus. Been studying these pages like there is no tomorrow!

Counting the days![/QUOTE]If "5 weeks" means that you're arriving around June 28th, then you should have at least a few days of fun before many of the spas begin to close down and most of the working girls begin to head home.

Most of the regular spas, such as Kartika, Berlian and Maribaya spa, will close a couple of days before Ramadan begins. However, some of the spas that are located in "hotels" such as Alexis and Malioboro, remain open through the first few weeks of Ramadan.

During Ramadan in 2006 and 2007 I was able to have several sessions with Maribaya Spa girls who were working out of a couple of rooms in the Melawai Hotel. The Maribaya Spa is on the 6th floor of that hotel and was closed down just before the start of Ramadan, but many of the girls stayed in Jakarta for a couple of weeks to earn some extra money. Typically. 3 or 4 girls would chip in on a room, then take turns entertaining a gentleman while the others waited in the lobby (unless the guy wanted a threesome).

I've written about this subject extensively in the past, and I believe that some of my posts from 2007 were cited in the "Link to Reports of Distinction" section. I look forward to reading your field reports, since with all due respect, up to now you've contributed little to the board.

[QUOTE=JustABule;1426815]So I would ask the forum where can I find (safe and decent quality) viagra or cialis or kamagra or whatever works? People speak about Kota and I do speak fluent Bahasa but I don't know if that's the good place.[/QUOTE]Congrats to the turning!

I found street vendors on Jl. Gajah Madah / Jl. Mangga Besar Raya intersection, see report [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1306474&viewfull=1#post1306474[/url] that had stuff that worked to a reasonable price.

My question would be: can Super G Force be found in Jakarta to reasonable price?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1427074]The main reason why some girls prefer "fresh meat" is not because it's "fresh" but because the girl thinks that they have a better opportunity to overcharge / fleece the guy for money.

Any bule who speaks fluent Indonesian by definition is an experienced Jakarta hand and thus knows the ground rules and prices. In most cases, a bule who is fluent in Bahasa will have more girls, not less, available to him, but the gold-diggers will stay away.[/QUOTE]I just tell girls straight away that I'm "Bule Basih" in Indonesian. Sometimes, girls sigh and walk away. Still, as MS says, at least a little bit of Indonesian is generally a good thing, particularly for the non-pros, but even for the pros. I think they generally also find "experienced" clients easier to handle than nervous newbies, even if they can get more money for them.

[QUOTE=Sebans;1424863]There is No need to take street walkers to save money. Is enough no to go with the best looking girls from the most expensive places.[/QUOTE]Well I'm just pointing our the easiest way to get what you want.

As you know the price will drop depend on the location, Bats / CJ to Blok M to daan mogot m3 to kali jodo.

I wish you the best of luck, please do report your finding.

[QUOTE=JustABule;1426820]Malls for me are quite impossible. I don't receive many signals and when I do it is usually so unexpected that I don't (or don't know how to) react. Back home usually I bang my head on the wall for not having been more reactive. For approaching girls who are not looking (for instance girls sitting in cafe's alone or with 2) I am just not cut out for that I guess, too nervous and don't know how to make the move. I've been in Jakarta many years and I never ever picked up a girl in a mall, I almost never even got a number. I might be too shy.[/QUOTE]Actually I saw some good guide that might help you. Unfortunately I cannot post the link.

Here is a sniped of the guide.

[QUOTE]Go to any shopping plaza. And Jakarta has some huge shopping malls.

Screw the ones outside of the city where we can buy delicate, cheap local stuff. Fuck those. Go to the ones in town, those with real branded goods. Plaza Indonesia, Grand Indonesia, Plaza Senayan, Senayan city.

Hey, even the second rated ones are good. Pondok Indah mall. Anggrek city. Pacific Place.

It's easy to just do a pick up anywhere in those malls but the best places are the typical English speakers hang outs. Starbucks, English book shops, sandwich shops, English lesson schools.

Or the women hangouts. Hair salon, Shoe shops, trendy branded shops. Basically, see a shop with lot's of young women, go in!

(And do what after entering you ask? Well, since I started doing this, I have been into manicure, pedicure, say I'm buying shoes for my sister, checking on clothes for my boss' mistress and a million other lies. The manicure is the only thing I truly enjoy.)

Now comes the next challenge. Spotting a willing local takes a lot of time and talent. And I have not yet perfected my recce SOP. So I do the next best thing. I let them spot me.

Beware though bros. Like anywhere else on earth, women are not stupid. They may pretend to be stupid to suck us in. But they are very sharp when they feel someone bio-ing them.

So we must be very natural. In fact, this one no need to pretend. Once you have tried and find that the method works. You will be calm because you know. Sooner or later you will score. No need to be pushy and play the hard up, desperate guy.

The game plan is simple. Ask questions in English so that other people can hear you. If your target is not into you, often times, another willing person will step up. Sadly, that willing person may not always be who you want. If that's the case, thank the person, ask one more question and then move on. But if she is who you can want, then switch target. Once in a while, the original target may come back for a reassessment if this new girl is into you.

Keep moving if the mission cannot complete at one place. You are a tourist and you want to see / try more things. And Indonesian girls are really quite helpful to clueless charming tourists.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1427074]Still can't figure out why you're having such bad luck with girls. I'm an overweight guy who was in my mid-50s whewn I mongered in Jakarta (2004-09) and had girls propositioning me all the time, even when I wasn't looking. One memorable moment was when I sat at Starbucks by the Plaza Indonesia entrance at 6 p.m. one Friday evening with a 2 1/2 year old child in my lap and had two attractive mid-20s women separately come to me and give me their cell number, saying "call me later"[/QUOTE]Or the girl, waiting for a taxi when we were exiting Plaza Semanggi!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1427076]I've written about this subject extensively in the past, and I believe that some of my posts from 2007 were cited in the "Link to Reports of Distinction" section. I look forward to reading your field reports, since with all due respect, up to now you've contributed little to the board.[/QUOTE]Hi MS, I agree that I haven't contributed an awful lot however it will be my first trip to Indonesia and as a new member. Well enough said. You got to start somewhere.

I will be posting reports and hopefully with pics, so less than 5 weeks now, but who is counting!

I intend to look up some of your previous posts if they are still around for some advice. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1426688]An additional perk will be "sisters day". Girls coming back from the kampung bring their younger sisters and introduce them to the Jakarta nightlife. I have witnessed this a couple of times in Jalan Pelatehan (Blok M) and I was often pleasantly suprised by the amount of new talent.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Believe it or not, I actually shagged a virgin from blok m after the "sisters" returned from Ramadan. Worst mistake I ever made. Girl followed me around like a lost puppy dog for a couple of weeks and was a real pain.

[QUOTE=Medanboy;1425684]I never seem to get a towel anymore. They put a big one on the bed, I get naked and go lye down. I used to get towels, how they know.[/QUOTE]Then the intention is clear bro. Start your negotiations early. Definitely before U-turn over.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1426095]Maybe he has mistaken you for an Arab, bro. The rest of the story fits your profile![/QUOTE]I wish it was me bro, but I've never managed to stay in Jakarta for that long (I think the guy has been there for three weeks). My Home Minister would have revoked my visa long before then. Besides that was an Arab guy living in Australia. Missing Jakarta badly.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1427803]Then the intention is clear bro. Start your negotiations early. Definitely before U-turn over.

I wish it was me bro, but I've never managed to stay in Jakarta for that long (I think the guy has been there for three weeks). My Home Minister would have revoked my visa long before then. Besides that was an Arab guy living in Australia. Missing Jakarta badly.

MD II[/QUOTE]I can't seem to be able to edit my own post and it bugs me when the auto correct changes my text. I actually put "before you turn over" but the text came out as above. Go figure. Anyone else (seniors) unable to edit their posts?

MD II

It did it to me again but this time I was able to edit. Looks like there's a shorter time frame for editing than before. I posted earlier, then sent my kid to school. Came back and couldn't edit the stupid "U-turn". Jackson, the auto correct sucks.

MD II

[QUOTE=JustABule;1426815]So I would ask the forum where can I find (safe and decent quality) viagra or cialis or kamagra or whatever works? People speak about Kota and I do speak fluent Bahasa but I don't know if that's the good place.[/QUOTE]I said this a few times before and no doubt will again. In the local newspapers you will get adverts for this stuff, and they will drop off to you.

Cialis is still 250ribu for 10 tabs.

PM me if you want a contact name and number.

Have visited CJ / Bats last week and about 50 % of the girls are still the ones who I saw 6 months ago, another 40 % more than a year old and just about 10 % fresh talent. Its really difficult to pick up anyone from that remaining 10 % as the choice is very limited. Checked out Top Gun but did not like what I saw.

Contacted a couple of providers who charge 8 mill. 20 mill to send over good looking girls. Not sure if they are for real or just some BS because they ask for a 30 % advance payment. And there is no guarantee anything will be delivered.

Even the famed Hartono has lost it. Quality has gone down and very limited girls are available.

There seems to be dearth of providers in 1 mill. 3 mill range who can provide some nice girls. Or atleast I don't seem to find any such providers.

Greetings mates,

Does anyone know if there are women available at BATS (or other place nearbys) on Sunday afternoons? I will be staying at a hotel near Plaza Indonesia (likely Shangri-La) and only have Sunday afternoon to hobby (wife comes into town in the evening). I did RTFF, but was unable to find anything about picking up a pro in the afternoon.

Will there be working girls at BATS on Sunday afternoon? Is there anywhere else near Plaza Indonesia? Any good spas in the area (besides Alexis, which seems far)

Appreciate all of the helps on this.

Ciao

[QUOTE=MurphyLove;1427976]There seems to be dearth of providers in 1 mill. 3 mill range who can provide some nice girls. Or atleast I don't seem to find any such providers.[/QUOTE]Send me a PM if you want some numbers.

[QUOTE=MurphyLove; 1427976]Contacted a couple of providers who charge 8 mill. 20 mill to send over good looking girls. Not sure if they are for real or just some BS because they ask for a 30 % advance payment. And there is no guarantee anything will be delivered.

Even the famed Hartono has lost it. Quality has gone down and very limited girls are available.

There seems to be dearth of providers in 1 mill. 3 mill range who can provide some nice girls. Or atleast I don't seem to find any such providers.[/QUOTE]Err forget about those DP 30% agent, unless you know them don't do anything like that.

Pm me if you are interested about girl in 1-3 mil range, I might be able to stir you into the right direction

[QUOTE=United1; 1428078]Greetings mates,

Does anyone know if there are women available at BATS (or other place nearbys) on Sunday afternoons? I will be staying at a hotel near Plaza Indonesia (likely Shangri-La) and only have Sunday afternoon to hobby (wife comes into town in the evening). I did RTFF, but was unable to find anything about picking up a pro in the afternoon.

Will there be working girls at BATS on Sunday afternoon? Is there anywhere else near Plaza Indonesia? Any good spas in the area (besides Alexis, which seems far)

Appreciate all of the helps on this.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Block M is maybe 20 minutes from you by taxi on a Sunday afternoon. Damage is 500k, plus any tip for the girl, plus your taxi ride. TTG

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1428198]Block M is maybe 20 minutes from you by taxi on a Sunday afternoon. Damage is 500k, plus any tip for the girl, plus your taxi ride. TTG[/QUOTE]Do you mean Hotel Melawai? If you mean jl Falatehan, then that's new to me.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1428337]Do you mean Hotel Melawai? If you mean jl Falatehan, then that's new to me.[/QUOTE]No, I meant Hotel Melawai, not anything on Jl Falatehan. I wrote the reply at oh-dark-thirty getting to ready to go to the airport, and didn't read or edit well. I wasn't sure I could get back on line today, and wasn't sure how quickly he wanted suggestions. I don't think Jl Falatehan is a Sunday afternoon possibility, but TTG is wrong about lots of things!

[QUOTE=United1; 1428078]Greetings mates,

Does anyone know if there are women available at BATS (or other place nearbys) on Sunday afternoons? I will be staying at a hotel near Plaza Indonesia (likely Shangri-La) and only have Sunday afternoon to hobby (wife comes into town in the evening). I did RTFF, but was unable to find anything about picking up a pro in the afternoon.

Will there be working girls at BATS on Sunday afternoon? Is there anywhere else near Plaza Indonesia? Any good spas in the area (besides Alexis, which seems far)

Appreciate all of the helps on this.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Nearest I can think of is Fortune but I've never checked regarding Sundays. Traffic is pretty easy so you could also consider Malioboro or maybe Travel?

MD II

[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1428363]No, I meant Hotel Melawai, not anything on Jl Falatehan. I wrote the reply at oh-dark-thirty getting to ready to go to the airport, and didn't read or edit well. I wasn't sure I could get back on line today, and wasn't sure how quickly he wanted suggestions. I don't think Jl Falatehan is a Sunday afternoon possibility, but TTG is wrong about lots of things![/QUOTE]TTG is right. Jl Felatehan is evenings only, bars are closed during daytime. So that leaves Maribaya in Hotel Melawai.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1428453]Nearest I can think of is Fortune but I've never checked regarding Sundays. Traffic is pretty easy so you could also consider Malioboro or maybe Travel?

MD II[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone for the advices! Will report back on my experiences.

Back in the day Sunday afternoons were the best.

Wash the car in the morning, get a shower tell the missus I was going out to meet a few mates for a couple of beers, back home by 7pm for dinner, I mean what nefarious activities could I possibly be up to at that perfectly innocuous time of the week?

I miss Today Country.

[QUOTE=United1; 1428078]Greetings mates,

Does anyone know if there are women available at BATS (or other place nearbys) on Sunday afternoons? I will be staying at a hotel near Plaza Indonesia (likely Shangri-La) and only have Sunday afternoon to hobby (wife comes into town in the evening). I did RTFF, but was unable to find anything about picking up a pro in the afternoon.

Will there be working girls at BATS on Sunday afternoon? Is there anywhere else near Plaza Indonesia? Any good spas in the area (besides Alexis, which seems far)

Appreciate all of the helps on this.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Malioboro would be the closest place to the Shangri-La for afternoon action, and traffic should not be a problem on Sunday. Fortune is also fairly close but I'd pick Malioboro over Fortune.

Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai is also a good choice, although slightly farther away. Again, Sunday afternoon traffic should be lighter than the rest of the week.

You could also consider mall-hunting but that can be hit-or-miss, and since your schedule is tight, I'd recommend going to a regular spa. Another option is to go to BATS on Saturday evenning (if you're in town then) and line up someone to come visit you in your hotel room Sunday afternoon.

Because a lot of people will be at the Shangri-La for Sunday brunch, there's always the possibility of a working girl discretely working the Shangri-La lobby at that time. Wouldn't hurt to take a quick look before you head out.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1428828]Malioboro would be the closest place to the Shangri-La for afternoon action, and traffic should not be a problem on Sunday. Fortune is also fairly close but I'd pick Malioboro over Fortune.

Maribaya Spa in Hotel Melawai is also a good choice, although slightly farther away. Again, Sunday afternoon traffic should be lighter than the rest of the week.

You could also consider mall-hunting but that can be hit-or-miss, and since your schedule is tight, I'd recommend going to a regular spa. Another option is to go to BATS on Saturday evenning (if you're in town then) and line up someone to come visit you in your hotel room Sunday afternoon.

Because a lot of people will be at the Shangri-La for Sunday brunch, there's always the possibility of a working girl discretely working the Shangri-La lobby at that time. Wouldn't hurt to take a quick look before you head out.[/QUOTE]Thanks EVERYONE for the greats tips. I might try to do a little mall hunting (which was very successful last year in Plaza Senaya) and or work with a provider to get something to my hotel. Will definitely report out what I discovers.

Gents,

I have a question for you.

I have read a couple of reports on these boards in relation to being refused entry into some clubs in Jakarta. As I am shorts and t-shirt guy, what is the appropriate dress for places like Malio and Classic versus Bats and Blok M? Any assistance would be appreciated.

<Sarcasm Are you Australian? You can get refused entry in some parts of the world on that ground. </Sarcasm But seriously, long trousers and a long sleeved plain colored shirt will do. I doesn't look like there are is a no foreigner policy anywhere. BUT, all clubs anywhere in the world have a "no troublemaker" policy. If you stick out by virtue of ethnicity its a good idea to dress a bit above the local level, be clean shaved and not drunk. I gave similar advice to Asians coming to Europe. There are always people at the entrance (and girls) with prejudices, sometimes bordering racism. Making in a little bit extra effort in dressing, grooming and politeness goes a long way in avoiding those.

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1429021]Gents,

I have a question for you.

I have read a couple of reports on these boards in relation to being refused entry into some clubs in Jakarta. As I am shorts and t-shirt guy, what is the appropriate dress for places like Malio and Classic versus Bats and Blok M? Any assistance would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Jakarta is the capital city of Indonesia. It is the business, political, industrial, transport and financial centre of the biggest economy in SE Asia and whilst to its north there is a major seaport Jakarta is most certainly not a beach resort.

It's strange that anyone would need to point these obvious facts out but when I look at some western blokes wandering around the streets of Jakarta on week days I often wonder have they accidentally got off the plane one stop short off Bali.

In London, New York, Sydney, Moscow, Beijing, Bombay, Paris or countless other major international cities if you show up at a five-star nightclub wearing shorts and a t-shirt you will probably be refused admittance, it's not racism, it's a simple fact of life. Why would Jakarta should be any different?

I agree with this.

I did notice a few weeks ago two UK guys carrying their drunk friend and entering X2. Jeans, t-shirt and drunk for them was ok. Can't say I wasn't bothered by "bad stereotype advertizing".

Personally I often prefer to go 2day unshaved as I seem to have more luck with the girls.

On a side note I had some girls who said they actually liked the indonesian awefull looking chinbeard or ugly mustache on some locals. Not to mention the occasional long nails.

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1429021]Gents,

I have a question for you.

I have read a couple of reports on these boards in relation to being refused entry into some clubs in Jakarta. As I am shorts and t-shirt guy, what is the appropriate dress for places like Malio and Classic versus Bats and Blok M? Any assistance would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Most clubs will accept jeans and a t-shirt (but try and make it a smart pair and not a grotty t-shirt). So you should have no problems in Classic / Malioboro / BATS / CJs / Tiga Puluh / X2 / Red Square provided you're not a total mess. You may however find it stricter in certain clubs like Dragonfly. Generally your luck will be better if you dress at least half decently.

MD II

[QUOTE=Farq40;1429021]I have read a couple of reports on these boards in relation to being refused entry into some clubs in Jakarta. As I am shorts and t-shirt guy, what is the appropriate dress for places like Malio and Classic versus Bats and Blok M? Any assistance would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Except on car-free Sunday mornings and on Jaksa, shorts really aren't the way to go in Jakarta. On lazy weekends, I sometimes wear cargo pants to the shopping malls. If I see a girl I'd like to approach, I always regret not at least wearing jeans. Indonesian girls are ultra-status conscious, even a Blok M ayam doesn't really want to be seen in public with someone who looks like a backpacker tourist. If you're young and in good shape, you can get away with good jeans and t-shirt. No criticism intended of your sartorial sense, it's just the way things go.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1430033]Except on car-free Sunday mornings and on Jaksa, shorts really aren't the way to go in Jakarta. On lazy weekends, I sometimes wear cargo pants to the shopping malls. If I see a girl I'd like to approach, I always regret not at least wearing jeans. Indonesian girls are ultra-status conscious, even a Blok M ayam doesn't really want to be seen in public with someone who looks like a backpacker tourist. If you're young and in good shape, you can get away with good jeans and t-shirt. No criticism intended of your sartorial sense, it's just the way things go.[/QUOTE]Yes, very true. Funny you say that. By coincidence, I was walking along Jaksa last night with my latest squeeze, a hot shop assistant at Pasaraya. Her choice of words on seeing white guys in shorts: "bule kampung" Which could be freely translated to. Hillbillies?

Did I really just have a 90 minute threesome with two 10's some hairs shy of $50.

Best P4P to date and that's saying a lot. Too bad there isn't shit else I am interested in over here.

Now the challenge of being away for a while is you tend to follow traditional habits and this is where over-confidence can cause you to come a cropper.

The tale of woe was one which should have ended in delight but ended in hysterical disaster. As a Johnny Singlish one is oft under the mistaken belief that miracles can occur and that lightening cannot strike twice in one night. Arriving sans hotel at 5pm raced to the Atlet and checked in so as to be at a meeting in Mulia at 1900. Now following usual protocol tried the usual suspects all of whom were outstation. This should have been the first warning but arriving in Mulia and waiting and waiting for the meeting decided to drop in on CJ's.

Having had a quick chat with the Bouncer Johannes was feeling in positive mode and the mood got better when a sweet young thing ambled in and immediately I dived in for the thrill. We chatted on the door and moved inside where we quickly got to exchanging bbm pins to communicate and a promise of more to come. Now the meeting was delayed again and so to check on ones good fortune nipped into CJ's and this time received a more than acceptable kiss and a nice feel from her. This should have set the alarm bells ringing that this was all too easy but it didn't.

Cutting a long story short we then at 2am retired to the Atlet. All seeming well she moved to the usual SOP and the bathroom. Now eager to see the results of my efforts opened the door and this is where the fun starts.

A. The hair was a wig. Ok. This is not unusual.

Be. The slim figure was expanding from the tight dress at this point.

See. The breasts were not even acorns.

The. The unburdened stomach was no more a six pack.

Ok this is still 2am and so it can't get much worse and being tired a quick romp and kick it out would have been ok. Then came the funniest moment :-

Sayang bisa kita bukin untuk 2 juta!

At which point discretion and good manners left me and I pointed to the door for the first time in my life and didn't even give taxi money. Given had bought a number of drinks for her and her friends this seemed like adding insult to injury under the circumstances.

Whilst laughing now I confess sleeping alone in Jakarta for the first time ever was not on the agenda and the moral is check and recheck before that sweet young thing proves herself to be a mirage!

Happy Hunting and not too much laughing at my expense! As mcArthur said albeit for another country "I shall return"

[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1430609]Did I really just have a 90 minute threesome with two 10's some hairs shy of $50.[/QUOTE]Photos please. I'd like to see a 10 in Jakarta. I've lived in Jakarta 12 years and haven't seen one yet.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1430711]Photos please. I'd like to see a 10 in Jakarta. I've lived in Jakarta 12 years and haven't seen one yet.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time. On the Thailand thread, he's a troll, and on the 'ignore list' of most of us.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1430711]Photos please. I'd like to see a 10 in Jakarta. I've lived in Jakarta 12 years and haven't seen one yet.[/QUOTE]Over 10 million people in this city and you don't think there are any tens? Take any group of 10,000 girls in the world and there will be a couple tens mixed in. Either you are in expert hunter or you are not. If anything, the service was not the best but I can assure you they were tens.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1430711]Photos please. I'd like to see a 10 in Jakarta. I've lived in Jakarta 12 years and haven't seen one yet.[/QUOTE]One of his best. George said "I've never fucked a 10, but one night I fucked 5 2's".

But we all know that one man's 10 is another man's 2. Nuff said.

RL

[QUOTE=Robert Long;1430861]"I've never fucked a 10, but one night I fucked 5 2's".[/QUOTE]That's great!

Went to D's Place again last Tuesday and after some looking around and warding off some of the older ladies I invited one of the younger dancers to come with me to the VIP room. Service was excellent, although no offfer of "pom pom" this time. I never had any of the dancers provide anything but excellent value in the VIP room.

What is becoming slightly annoying though is that one or more of the older crowd come along uninvited every time and try to mingle in the BBBJ. This is OK by me as long she is of the same quality as the one I invited, but the last time this was not the case. Also ever more girls come to satand around as "security", with lame excuses such as "I turned off the light". The original girl provided such an excellent BBBJ with swallowing that I gave her 500k and I gave one of the others 100k. The rest I flatly refused, saying "next time there will be 10 girls standing around". Any of you notice this lately?

Regards,

Ko

Went to Maribaya this afternoon for some entertainment. Not much male clients and only some 15 girls due to the national holiday of the Ascension of the prophet Muhammad. A very hot looking example was snatched away before I could pounce, but then I spotted Diana whom I had the pleasure of encountering before. We sat down for a bit and I asked her to select a second girl. We went to the room together and had a thoroughly satisfying one and a half hour. I will post some photos in the photo thread tomorrow. At first the girls insisted on pictures without face but as the action moved along they soon forgot about that.

They do have a short memory, Smoothy!

Incidentally, all my reports of June have been posted from the Century Park Hotel (formerly Atlet Century) where I have cabled internet in the room. No problems with blocking oof ISG.

Regards,

Ko

Diana's a nice girl. Who did she bring with you?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1430992]Diana's a nice girl. Who did she bring with you?[/QUOTE]Yes, nice indeed. Time flew <grin .

The name of the other girl sounded like Gita. Maaf, do not remember better, but when I post pictures you may recognise her.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Tamurlane26; 1430637]Now the challenge of being away for a while is you tend to follow traditional habits and this is where over-confidence can cause you to come a cropper.

<SNIP

Happy Hunting and not too much laughing at my expense! As mcArthur said albeit for another country "I shall return"[/QUOTE]Okay, no more than a wry smile. At least you had a large bed for yourself (writing this from Century Park, formerly known as Atlet).

Regards,

Ko

Not looking for America's next top model. I like young girl's with great tits and asses and this place is great for that. Guess I'm not as picky as I thought and only pretty face giraffes can be a 10's. That pedang girl you posted was a 10 to me. Three threesomes in 24 hour's. 4 sets of great titties and 2 great asses. I like Indonesian food a lot but don't like the vibe in Jakarta. Can't wait to return to Bangkok honestly.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1430984]Went to D's Place again last Tuesday and after some looking around and warding off some of the older ladies I invited one of the younger dancers to come with me to the VIP room. Service was excellent, although no offfer of "pom pom" this time. I never had any of the dancers provide anything but excellent value in the VIP room.

What is becoming slightly annoying though is that one or more of the older crowd come along uninvited every time and try to mingle in the BBBJ. This is OK by me as long she is of the same quality as the one I invited, but the last time this was not the case. Also ever more girls come to satand around as "security", with lame excuses such as "I turned off the light". The original girl provided such an excellent BBBJ with swallowing that I gave her 500k and I gave one of the others 100k. The rest I flatly refused, saying "next time there will be 10 girls standing around". Any of you notice this lately?

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]The dancers in D's are a funny lot. There are a few who verge on jailbait (actually they're over 18) and they strut their stuff (well move their hips listlessly) on stage while their mom (yes their actual mothers not mamasans) watch them from the seats below. The older ones, with the tattoos can be had in the VIP room for a private dance but usually at so high a price and with so many conditions (not doing this, no way that) it's just not worth it. The younger ones might, just might, if you look alright to their mom, give you a dance but again at such an inflated price, and only if they can bring their friend along and no touching and no opening clothes that it's a pointless, and overpriced, waste of time. If you're going for the VIP experience give the "sexy" dancers a miss and go for a half decent pro from among the girls on the floor.

As regards security, just insist on one fat old midden to sit minding her own business on a stool facing outward. Tell her to butt out if she gets nosy or tries to call over friends, they have tough skins these old trouts. Give her 50 thou at the end, that's more than generous. I pay 250,000 to 300,000 for BBBJ with swallowing and only pay 500,000 for the full service.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1431928]The dancers in D's are a funny lot. There are a few who verge on jailbait (actually they're over 18) and they strut their stuff (well move their hips listlessly) on stage while their mom (yes their actual mothers not mamasans) watch them from the seats below. The older ones, with the tattoos can be had in the VIP room for a private dance but usually at so high a price and with so many conditions (not doing this, no way that) it's just not worth it. The younger ones might, just might, if you look alright to their mom, give you a dance but again at such an inflated price, and only if they can bring their friend along and no touching and no opening clothes that it's a pointless, and overpriced, waste of time. If you're going for the VIP experience give the "sexy" dancers a miss and go for a half decent pro from among the girls on the floor.

As regards security, just insist on one fat old midden to sit minding her own business on a stool facing outward. Tell her to butt out if she gets nosy or tries to call over friends, they have tough skins these old trouts. Give her 50 thou at the end, that's more than generous. I pay 250, 000 to 300, 000 for BBBJ with swallowing and only pay 500, 000 for the full service.[/QUOTE]Your experience is somewhat different from mine. I had several of the young dancers in the VIP-room and the first action was always removal of all clothes and full DFK, fingering and groping allowed. Usually it was two of the young girls taking turns (with my permission) and in December I had one go all the way. See FR I posted in January. Only the last time the older girls try to butt in. Most of the girls in the bar are outside my preferred age and looks range.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1425040]Bros,

Among the civilians (my area of interest) there are those truly seeking love; those who are seeking love but wouldn't mind some fun along the way; some looking for an escape to a foreign land; the ones seeking friendship and hoping they'll find love but don't mind some fun and a few just looking to have fun. Then there are some looking for something but they haven't made up their minds yet. I can't count the number who've expressed interest in me (and my profile is pretty clear that I'm not serious) yet when I check their profile, they're looking for marriage. So go figure. Within all these categories, there are some who expect oleh oleh (presents) and some who don't. Some who want to go out partying, and others who want to have a romantic dinner (plus a few who just want to come to your hotel room and have a good seeing to). Cheapest date: just about zero (I still give the minimum of chocolates). Most expensive date: 4 Million rupiahs plus shopping (she was regular and it wasn't every time that we went shopping or went out like that. Nice restaurant plus out for drinks and clubbing). My average date cost is around 200-500k depending on the person and the restaurant we go to.

Incidentally, if you do have a date, it's a hell of a lot cheaper going out for drinks and clubbing in Kemang rather than in BATS / CJs etc. Places like Dragonfly will kill your budget. The "normal" clubs are generally cheaper than the FL clubs for drinks but just check before you walk in. A simple indicator being the price of a bottle of vodka: if it's around 2 million and up, then you know the drinks are going to slaughter you. I think the club in Crowne Plaza (Retro?) is cheaper but not an FL joint last time I went. I don't dare comment on the price of drinks further than that as it's not really my area of expertise (although I've fallen prey to buying the odd Long Island for a girl here and there). If in doubt. Or you're lazy to read and take in the advice here. Seek the services of JAD.

MD II[/QUOTE]I am a long time contributor to ISG. (see my Seoul reports from January 2013 as example). My first time to INDO will be June 23-30. 3 days Medan for biz. 4 days Jakarta for fun. I RTFF extensively but have decided to go the civilian route this time. My IndoCupid profile is very clear about who I am (over 50, married) and what I want (short term, physical). I had no luck in the past with KoreaCupid and only 2 takers from JapanCupid, but in a few weeks my IndoCupid profile has generated almost 150 incoming interests, about half of whom are quite do-able for me. I am quite amazed at the difference. I have what appear to be solid commitments to very specific and graphic activities from at least 8 of the good ones I have followed up with. It seems that being Caucasian is a definite advantage, where it was a handicap in Kor and Jap.

There are a few pros on the IndoCupid site that make it very clear what they are offering. But I have stuck to the ones who at least appear to be true civilians. Its amazing how many divorced / separated women there are in their 20's.

QUESTION / ADVICE: I am scheduled to stay at the JW Marriott. (I have 3 free nights for points and it has also impressed some of the women that I am legit). Is the security too tight there for me to bring women in and out?

I promise I will give detailed FRs

[QUOTE=Wild Wind; 1432268]I am a long time contributor to ISG. (see my Seoul reports from January 2013 as example). My first time to INDO will be June 23-30. 3 days Medan for biz. 4 days Jakarta for fun. I RTFF extensively but have decided to go the civilian route this time.

QUESTION / ADVICE: I am scheduled to stay at the JW Marriott. (I have 3 free nights for points and it has also impressed some of the women that I am legit). Is the security too tight there for me to bring women in and out?

I promise I will give detailed FRs[/QUOTE]ANSWER: No the security at JW Marriott is not tight, in fact the Marriott and most other hotels in Jakarta are very girl-friendly.

I've stayed at the JW Marriott a few times, it's a nice hotel and the restaurant's evening buffet is a bargain; breakfast is included in the room price and is also good. And yes, you'll impress the ladies when they find out you are staying there, that's one reason why it always pays to stay in a decent hotel in Jakarta (instead of staying in a backpacker-type place on Jalan Jaksa).

Not surprised to read that you are finding numerous divorced / separated Indonesian women who are in their 20s.

I am looking forward to your reports!

[QUOTE=Wild Wind;1432268]I am a long time contributor to ISG. (see my Seoul reports from January 2013 as example). My first time to INDO will be June 23-30. 3 days Medan for biz. 4 days Jakarta for fun. My IndoCupid profile is very clear about who I am (over 50, married) and what I want (short term, physical). but in a few weeks my IndoCupid profile has generated almost 150 incoming interests, about half of whom are quite do-able for me. I have what appear to be solid commitments to very specific and graphic activities from at least 8 of the good ones I have followed up with. But I have stuck to the ones who at least appear to be true civilians. Its amazing how many divorced / separated women there are in their 20's. QUESTION / ADVICE: I am scheduled to stay at the JW Marriott. (I have 3 free nights for points and it has also impressed some of the women that I am legit). Is the security too tight there for me to bring women in and out? I promise I will give detailed FRs[/QUOTE]Hope you have a good experience mate. If only I was a bule, I could do some serious "damage"; as an Asian, I am somewhat more limited in my scope. As MS said below, most hotels in Jakarta are GF and JW Marriott is very nice. It is a luxury for most of the girls to stay in such a place too, and they do appreciate being able to sample the feeling. I too have excess points available for use there, but I'm still somewhat paranoid about staying there after the bombings - but that's just my personal issue. I look forward to your FRs. Don't forget to obscure the face if you post photos of "civilians".

MD II

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1432142]Your experience is somewhat different from mine. I had several of the young dancers in the VIP-room and the first action was always removal of all clothes and full DFK, fingering and groping allowed. Usually it was two of the young girls taking turns (with my permission) and in December I had one go all the way. See FR I posted in January. Only the last time the older girls try to butt in. Most of the girls in the bar are outside my preferred age and looks range.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]To follow up: In which D's Place in what town were you?

Last night I went to D's Place in Jl. Felatehan in Jakarta just to have a few drinks and chat up a barmaid. Meanwhile I took a good look (very pleasant) at the dancing crew. At least four of the young ones have accompanied me to the VIP-room on various occasions, one of them twice and the second time I fucked her. All the girls got fully undressed immediately upon entering the "private" corner and allowed full manual inspection as well as DFK. I never took any of the wandering harpies from the bar to the VIP-room.

Regards,

Ko

As I left D's yesterday evening I took a Bluebird (ordered by phone) and as we left he went against the one-way traffic direction. When I asked why the driver told me the street was closed off by police because of a bomb warning in Oscars. He blamed FPI for this.

Quite possible, because these idiots had been busy in Jakarta all day, blocking traffic on the Sudirman which caused a tailback all the way to Harmoni. Never saw anything like it. They probably went looking for an easy target after that.

There was nothing in the Jakarta Post this morning about a bomb scare. Will ask in J. Pelatehan.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1432776]As I left D's yesterday evening I took a Bluebird (ordered by phone) and as we left he went against the one-way traffic direction. When I asked why the driver told me the street was closed off by police because of a bomb warning in Oscars. He blamed FPI for this...[/QUOTE]Tried to do my homework, but can't find what 'Ds' is referred to. Any clarification please?

Also, if I can push my luck. My first time to Jakarta and my research points to mostly massage bars. I am more interested in free lancers that I can bring back to the hotel. Prefer to go to a club / bar, enjoy some music and I am very vain. Looks are important. Any suggestions please?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeeke; 1433197]Tried to do my homework, but can't find what 'Ds' is referred to. Any clarification please?

Also, if I can push my luck. My first time to Jakarta and my research points to mostly massage bars. I am more interested in free lancers that I can bring back to the hotel. Prefer to go to a club / bar, enjoy some music and I am very vain. Looks are important. Any suggestions please?[/QUOTE]Yes, you are pushing your luck, since you are a first-time poster with only one post that asks questions but contributes nothing to the board.

While it's tempting to ignore you, I'll respond with some info. If you read the post by Koperen Karel that's located just two posts down from yours, you're quickly learn that "D's Place" is a bar on Jalan Faletehan (Jalan means Street) in the Blok M part of Jakarta (south of downtown, north of the Kemang area). This street has several bars where young (and a few not-so-young) freelance ladies will vie for your attention and money.

You can also pick up free lance girls at some 5-star-hotel bars, such as the BATS bar at the Shangri-La, the Tiga Puluh bar at Hotel Le Meridien, the bar at Hotel Mulia and others. The girls working these bars tend to charge more than the Blok M girls; however, oftentimes, the same girl who's asking for 2 million rupiah at BATS at 10 pm can be found later in the evening at D's Place or one of the other bars on that street, willing to settle for a much lower amount of money, such as 500,000 or 600,000 rupiah.

You can also find girls by mall-hunting. RTFF for more info or check out some old posts by esteemed Senior Member Bulai69 (they are referred to in a post under "Reports of Distinction")

Price inflation is becoming an issue. Please don't overpay, but also don't be a cheap Charlie and expect that the girls will go home for pennies.

Having said that, several posts here discuss "freebies" found on IndoCupid or similar web dating sites. RTFF and youll learn more.

And don't dismiss the massage places. Every man deserves at least once in their life a 2-girl full-body massage at Kartika Spa, one alley south of the interesection of Jalan Manggga Besar and Jalan Hayam Wurk in the northern part of town. Choose the girl of your choice and let her pick the second girl.

If you're striking out once you arrive here, contact Jakarta After Dark (found in the advertisers section) who can guarantee that anyone can get laid during their visit to Jakarta.

I look forward to reading your field reports.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeeke; 1433197]Tried to do my homework, but can't find what 'Ds' is referred to. Any clarification please?

Also, if I can push my luck. My first time to Jakarta and my research points to mostly massage bars. I am more interested in free lancers that I can bring back to the hotel. Prefer to go to a club / bar, enjoy some music and I am very vain. Looks are important. Any suggestions please?[/QUOTE]I Googled D`s Place as its also named here two reports down by Koperen and I got it straight away. So how hard did you try to do your homework?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1433286]Yes, you are pushing your luck, since you are a first-time poster with only one post that asks questions but contributes nothing to the board.

While it's tempting to ignore you, I'll respond with some info. If you read the post by Koperen Karel that's located just two posts down from yours, you're quickly learn that "D's Place" is a bar on Jalan Faletehan (Jalan means Street) in the Blok M part of Jakarta (south of downtown, north of the Kemang area). This street has several bars where young (and a few not-so-young) freelance ladies will vie for your attention and money...[/QUOTE]Thanks a bunch. FYI. I went to BATS (Shangri La) last night and there were mostly 5s and 6s, but there were 2 that were drop dead 10s (in my book). Unfortunately, they were taken. So, had to settle for an 8. Was ok. Only because of the fake moaning. Damage 1 Million rupiah.

Again, appreciate the quick response back.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeeke; 1433487]Thanks a bunch. FYI. I went to BATS (Shangri La) last night and there were mostly 5s and 6s, but there were 2 that were drop dead 10s (in my book). Unfortunately, they were taken. So, had to settle for an 8. Was ok. Only because of the fake moaning. Damage 1 Million rupiah.

Again, appreciate the quick response back.[/QUOTE]Did you not get the hint? Post a decent FR and you'll find people will be more positive towards you. If you don't have time to contribute, don't expect others to have time for you.

MD II

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1433289]I Googled D`s Place as its also named here two reports down by Koperen and I got it straight away. So how hard did you try to do your homework?[/QUOTE]Sorry Primo. I thought D's was a code name for something else and I was searching this forum up and down to find out what the original name was. Did not occur to me the name itself was D's place.

My bad.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1433590]Did you not get the hint? Post a decent FR and you'll find people will be more positive towards you. If you don't have time to contribute, don't expect others to have time for you.

MD II[/QUOTE]Hi MD:

I did get the hint and I did post an FR. Sorry if I am not as eloquent as others. I just shared my experience in KL on that thread. In response to yours.

I do agree that I should contribute first before seeking help and will do my best to do so going forward.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1432319]ANSWER: No the security at JW Marriott is not tight, in fact the Marriott and most other hotels in Jakarta are very girl-friendly.

I've stayed at the JW Marriott a few times, it's a nice hotel and the restaurant's evening buffet is a bargain; breakfast is included in the room price and is also good. And yes, you'll impress the ladies when they find out you are staying there, that's one reason why it always pays to stay in a decent hotel in Jakarta (instead of staying in a backpacker-type place on Jalan Jaksa).

Not surprised to read that you are finding numerous divorced / separated Indonesian women who are in their 20s.

I am looking forward to your reports![/QUOTE]Thanks Mighty. My profile now has attracted 183 incoming Interests. F'ing amazing compared to my Cupid exp's in Japan and Korea. I have more interested high quality candidates than I have time for. I'm plg a follow up trip in August to take advantage of this situation. I will be sure to FR.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1432459]Hope you have a good experience mate. If only I was a bule, I could do some serious "damage"; as an Asian, I am somewhat more limited in my scope. As MS said below, most hotels in Jakarta are GF and JW Marriott is very nice. It is a luxury for most of the girls to stay in such a place too, and they do appreciate being able to sample the feeling. I too have excess points available for use there, but I'm still somewhat paranoid about staying there after the bombings. But that's just my personal issue. I look forward to your FRs. Don't forget to obscure the face if you post photos of "civilians".

MD II[/QUOTE]Thanks MD. I"m not sure how many of these civilians will let me photo them. We'll have to wait and see. But I will be sure to be discreet in posting.

Hi guys,

Was at CJ's bar in the Mulia Hotel yesterday. (Thursday) started to get pretty crowded around 23h00. A pretty good amount of girls avaiilable and quality ranged from 5-8 on a scale of 1-10. Did not see 9's or 10's. I guess there were some 150 guests and one third of them were girls. My experience: with some insistence and negation you can get a girl to spend ST (1 hour or max 2 hours) for 1M rupiahs. (some 75 Euros or 100 USD). Take your time to chose a girl, chat a bit with them and you may find a 7-8 with some GFE. Just be nice to them. Make some jokes, treat them well, and they will do the same for you. Still got to say it. Thailand is better.

Enjoy,

Dutch44

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1432776]As I left D's yesterday evening I took a Bluebird (ordered by phone) and as we left he went against the one-way traffic direction. When I asked why the driver told me the street was closed off by police because of a bomb warning in Oscars. He blamed FPI for this.

Quite possible, because these idiots had been busy in Jakarta all day, blocking traffic on the Sudirman which caused a tailback all the way to Harmoni. Never saw anything like it. They probably went looking for an easy target after that.

There was nothing in the Jakarta Post this morning about a bomb scare. Will ask in J. Pelatehan.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Ko, just send you a PM. Sorry to have missed you. Yes, I couldn't see any mention of the bomb scare in the media either. Maybe they purposely don't report on these type of events.

The Kebayoran police came down around 11. 30pm, closing down the road on the Pasaraya side of Falatehan. When walking past, I could see the bomb scare was actually in the Maxi bar next to Oscars. Both bars are closed since some time now, I believe. The atmosphere was pretty relaxed, in typical Indonesian style. Everybody smiling. The guys sitting outside on the terrace of the Falatehan hotel, next to Oscars, just remained there during the scare, happy chatting and finishing their drinks. Hehe. I didn't have that much nerve.

Hi Guys,

Short report: just wanted to let you know, that the Mulia Hotel, if you can afford it, is a good albeit expensive choice. Very good quality rooms, service etc. And girl friendly. Of course it has CJ's bar at the M level, which opens around 19h00 (things get going around 22h30) and closes around 03h00. Last night (Friday) CJ was really busy, some 300 people I guess, with 1/3rd being girls. ST starts at 1M rupiahs. (1 hour or if you neg. 1.5). So it's a bit expensive.

Alternative: take a blue cherry taxi to Blok-M where price is about half or less. The taxi will cost about 25, 000 Rupiah from Mulia. See my other report on Blok-M for more details.

Enjoy

Hi Guys,

Blok-M is a section of Jakarta which has some reasonably good night life, if you know how to find it. So here are my findings. Blok-M can be reached from most major hotels in JK within 10-20 minutes, in the evening, if traffic is normal. Take a Blue Cherry or Express taxi. Price to get there should be between 20-40K. (from the city center that is). Other taxi's can not be trusted, they will try to rip you and ask double or more.

Blok-M is an older part of town, but yet very lively. The street to try out is the Jalan Falatehan, in Blok-M. Any taxi will be able to find it. This street has a small number of bars with WG's. Just check them all out. Best time: starting 22h00 on Fri / Sat / Sun. I liked Top-Gun and D's but others can be good too. In the clubs which have dancing girls (definitely the best looking ones) , you can't take those out, usually. They can do some stuff (BJ) in a backroom, but ask 300K for 15 minutes, so forget about it. Some of them may be willing to go to your hotel after midnight, after the dancing is over. The non-dancing girls so to say, are the ones to look for. ST (2-3 hours) can be had for 500K. That's the going price at this moment (2013). Not bad I think. Dunno about LT, but guess that maxes out at 1M. I was able to find a nice WG for 500K. Please also give 'm something for the taxi back. Now IMHO some 40-50 Euro's for 2 hours of fun is good stuff. Indonesia isn't Thailand, but comes closer than I thought.

Melawi Hotel.

Next option, is to go to the Melawi Hotel in Blok-M. The place is pretty run down, but still OK. They have a nightclub bar at level 6. You can walk into the hotel and take the elevator to floor 6. They don't stay open very late. Their opening times are 17h00 to 23h30. But around 18h00 a good number of WG's were there. (10-20) Quality was OK to good. (mostly 6, but some 7 and 2 8's. ST is 1 hour and you pay 500K. Take a shower together (they'll wash you) and off you go. No problems with DATY, BBBJ etc. Service was good. One of them (Irma) even gave very good service. Treat her nice please.

Massage in the Melawi Hotel

At level 2 the Melawi hotel has a small massage place. 250K for 1 hour of regular oil massage. I was not so impressed by how the place looked. The Hotel also has an ATM in the lobby, so that can be convenient.

SAMAYA massage, blok-M.

A far better option for massage can be found right across the street! If you like to relax between your mongering activities, Go to the SAMAYA Reflexology and Spa which is 50 meters across the Melawi Hotel. Really good massage for an excellent price. 1 hour foot massage costs 50K. (4 Euro!) 90 minutes body massage costs 120K. (so that's less than 10 Euro.) Recommended. Just do take into account that the masseur may actually be a man. Again, this is regular massage, but really good. At those price you want to give the masseur a tip, if you think the massage was good. I gave 50.

Other Blok-M stuff:

There may be more to do in Blok-M, but I was happy with the 2 things I explored. Not up to the quality level of Bangkok (Soi Cowboy, Nana etc. Etc.) , but certainly worthwhile to try out. Will I repeat: yes.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Dutch44; 1434529]Hi Guys,

<SNIP Taxi reference should of course be Blue Bird.

Blok-M is an older part of town, but yet very lively. The street to try out is the Jalan Falatehan <SNIP

In the clubs which have dancing girls (definitely the best looking ones) , you can't take those out, usually. They can do some stuff (BJ) in a backroom, but ask 300K for 15 minutes, so forget about it. <INSERT This has suddenly risen to 500 k, non-negotiable. As soon as you mention 300 k they just walk away. For this amount I can get a Maribaya girl for a full hour who will provide a lot more services than a BJ. <insert

<SNIP

Melawi Hotel.

Next option, is to go to the Melawi Hotel in Blok-M. The place is pretty run down, but still OK. They have a nightclub bar at level 6. You can walk into the hotel and take the elevator to floor 6. They don't stay open very late. Their opening times are 17h00 to 23h30. But around 18h00 a good number of WG's were there. (10-20) Quality was OK to good. (mostly 6, but some 7 and 2 8's. ST is 1 hour and you pay 500K. Take a shower together (they'll wash you) and off you go. No problems with DATY, BBBJ etc. Service was good. One of them (Irma) even gave very good service. Treat her nice please.

<INSERT Opening hours are actually 11:00 to 11:00 with a shift change at around 17:00. <insert

<SNIP

Other Blok-M stuff:

There may be more to do in Blok-M, but I was happy with the 2 things I explored. Not up to the quality level of Bangkok (Soi Cowboy, Nana etc. Etc.) , but certainly worthwhile to try out. Will I repeat: yes.

Enjoy[/QUOTE]Regards,

Ko

Inflation has reared its ugly head in D's Place. I was there Wednesday and went into the VIP room. Quite crowded in there with nude pole-dancing going on and some activity in the various private corners. That evening there were two dancing crews so a complete crew was back there. I was immediately approached by two of the young dancers with various proposals.

1. Nude dancing: one girl 200 k; 2 girls 500 k (so no group discount) ;

2. Blowjob: 500 k;

3. Full service: 800 k.

When I told them that the rate for a blowjob had always been 300 k they did not even negotiate but simply walked away. Apparently a new pricing policy for all the girls, since a third girl told the same story. Well, the young dancers look very nice, but not that nice.

500 k buys me a Maribaya girl for an hour, who may not be absolutely as good looking, but who will do her best to please and who will do a lot more than just a blowjob.

I'm afraid D's is for just for drinking a beer from now on.

Regards,

Ko

Yes inflation. Most of the time I work a different market or am with gf's, but going out regularly in Jakarta, I can see a price hike that has taken hold in the last 3-4 years and mostly in South Jakarta. Although prices in Maribaya have remained pretty stable, looking at the ST asking prices. Correct me if I am wrong, for blok M it went up from 300k to 500k. And in the five star bars (CJ's, BATS) from 500k to 1 million.

Especially the 1 million, crazy stuff. Comparing to what's paid as a monthly minimum wage, those look tourist prices. Bali price. You're in Jakarta, but they treat you if you were wearing flip-flops and a loud Hawaii shirt.

Above Thamrin, in Jakarta North, prices have remained much more stable. Eg. Berlian, Kartika 350 ST. Likewise, Atrium Mall, Jalan Jaksa. 300k ST. Even the tiny 5 star bar in the Aryaduta, the Tavern, the prices have remained pretty much the same. 500k ST. Goes recommended BTW, if you're staying in the Aryaduta, take the signature club. Free drinks and canapes at happy hour. The resident ayam in the Tavern are great. Pretty girls, that dress, behave and look gorgeous.

BTW, glad to see, I am not the only Dutch poster. What ever happened to the Dutch gents drinks on Thursdays nights? They used to be very popular.

Greetings.

New to Jakarta. Just arrived. I read the forum for information about clubs or massage parlors near the Novotel hotel but the last report was back in 07.

Any updates on massage parlors or nightclubs that are walking distance from hotel?

TIA,

Joe

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel;1434539]2. Blowjob: 500 k; 3. Full service: 800 k.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sod that. Did the right thing voting with your feet, in my opinion.

During a recent visit to Maribaya both Zaza and the Mami told me that Shella has gone pulang kampung to take care of the raising of her child. So she appears not to have gone with a sponsor as was assumed earlier in this forum.

Some time ago I made a quick and dirty calculation of her income in the bar and I arrived at 3, 000 Euro per month, excluding tips. This should have allowed her to stash away a tidy amount with which she can sustain herself and her family for some time to come.

I wish her all the best.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1434539]Inflation has reared its ugly head in D's Place. I was there Wednesday and went into the VIP room. Quite crowded in there with nude pole-dancing going on and some activity in the various private corners. That evening there were two dancing crews so a complete crew was back there. I was immediately approached by two of the young dancers with various proposals.

1. Nude dancing: one girl 200 k; 2 girls 500 k (so no group discount) ;

2. Blowjob: 500 k;

3. Full service: 800 k.

When I told them that the rate for a blowjob had always been 300 k they did not even negotiate but simply walked away. Apparently a new pricing policy for all the girls, since a third girl told the same story. Well, the young dancers look very nice, but not that nice.

500 k buys me a Maribaya girl for an hour, who may not be absolutely as good looking, but who will do her best to please and who will do a lot more than just a blowjob.

I'm afraid D's is for just for drinking a beer from now on.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Was in there last Friday evening and paid Rp300k for BJ and Rp400k for FS. This is with a couple of regulars so maybe I got discounted prices but they didn't ask for more when I gave them the money.

Well I was feeling really horny and it has been raining here like crazy so decided to venture out to the spa here at hotel.

Actually I was really wanting a nice massage after the 20+ hour plane ride. They have a one-hour massage for 235K so I chose this one. The lady has a nice face and cute body. If anything if all I got was a massage that would be fine. There is a sign in the room that says "There shall be no sexual contact" or something like that.

Nevertheless I proceeded with massage. She was excellent! Just the right pressure I needed. Then on the flip she asked me if I wanted a special massage. So I asked her how much. She said 1 million for HE. 2 million for naked waist up and 3 million for full nude body to body massage. Needless to say I said no!

But I was horny and I wanted some release so we negotiated $40 US for hand job. I'm sure it is way too much for this type of service here. But because of the rains and the fact that I don't know where to go I decided to go for it.

Nice release and shower after. But would prefer to find another place not at hotel with more decent prices.

Joe

[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge; 1435220]Well I was feeling really horny and it has been raining here like crazy so decided to venture out to the spa here at hotel.

Actually I was really wanting a nice massage after the 20+ hour plane ride. They have a one-hour massage for 235K so I chose this one. The lady has a nice face and cute body. If anything if all I got was a massage that would be fine. There is a sign in the room that says "There shall be no sexual contact" or something like that.

Nevertheless I proceeded with massage. She was excellent! Just the right pressure I needed. Then on the flip she asked me if I wanted a special massage. So I asked her how much. She said 1 million for HE. 2 million for naked waist up and 3 million for full nude body to body massage. Needless to say I said no!

But I was horny and I wanted some release so we negotiated $40 US for hand job. I'm sure it is way too much for this type of service here. But because of the rains and the fact that I don't know where to go I decided to go for it.

Nice release and shower after. But would prefer to find another place not at hotel with more decent prices.

Joe[/QUOTE]I'm glad that you said no to those outrageous prices.

Yes, I'm also in need of a massage after flying for over 20 hours to get from New York to Jakarta, but I've discovered that it's worth it to go to Kartika Spa. A two-girl one hour slip-and-slide massage+BJ+FS++ would cost around 800, 000 rupiah total. Quite a bit less than the prices you were quoted at Novotel.

I'm looking for girls in Jakarta from the exotic locations of Indonesia, in particular, Kupang, Ambon and Papua, just for a change. Anyone know where in Jakarta I can find such?

[QUOTE=Joe Coodidge;1435220]There is a sign in the room that says "There shall be no sexual contact" or something like that.[/QUOTE]Most places have signs up like that. Even Berlian has a sign with the Indonesian equivalent, something like "Dilarang melakukan tuna sila something something."

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen;1434078]The Kebayoran police came down around 11. 30pm, closing down the road on the Pasaraya side of Falatehan. When walking past, I could see the bomb scare was actually in the Maxi bar next to Oscars. Both bars are closed since some time now, I believe. The atmosphere was pretty relaxed, in typical Indonesian style. Everybody smiling. The guys sitting outside on the terrace of the Falatehan hotel, next to Oscars, just remained there during the scare, happy chatting and finishing their drinks. Hehe. I didn't have that much nerve.[/QUOTE]In regards to this bomb business. 3 Blok M girls I know well have said basically the same story. A gentleman of African persuasion was seen to stash a small bag. A vigilant local called it as a bomb so hence the police activity. It tuned out to contain shabu-shabu. And the gentleman was shortly thereafter detained by the police.

But I have been wrong before in passing on "reports" but given the fact that the bomb story did not seem to make the local press this drug story sounds plausible enough.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1435623]Most places have signs up like that. Even Berlian has a sign with the Indonesian equivalent, something like "Dilarang melakukan tuna sila something something."[/QUOTE]That last bit is "asusila" and the whole text means something like "do not use force" ("treat the girls gently").

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1435722]That last bit is "asusila" and the whole text means something like "do not use force" ("treat the girls gently").

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Small correction, asusila means immoral or indecent so you can figure out what the message on the wall means.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1435797]Small correction, asusila means immoral or indecent so you can figure out what the message on the wall means.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly Shella told me my version and I never bothered to check (or I misunderstood).

I stand corrected.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Sakaundeh;1435569]I'm looking for girls in Jakarta from the exotic locations of Indonesia, in particular, Kupang, Ambon and Papua, just for a change. Anyone know where in Jakarta I can find such?[/QUOTE]Your best bet is to do some research. Walk into all of the MPs in the alleys between Kartika and Stadium, also go to a place that offers a lot of local girls, such as Hotel Travel, and ask up front "I'm looking for a girl from Kupang, Ambon or Papua" and chances are you'll find who you are looking for.

Although I doubt if you'll find many girls from Papua; the only worker I've ever seen from Papua was in Surabaya.

If you're worried about being lied to, your best bet would be to contact Jakarta after Dark 2, he's totally reliable and highly recommended by me and numerous other senior members of this board.

Good luck!

Sakaundeh buddy,

01. Two month ago, I was in Ternate, Halmahera Utara, working as a freelance consultant.

02. Went to the AFF [Asian Friend Finder] web site, subscribed for a month, did my search.

03. Got this very lovely lady out of Ambon.

04. Unfortunately, schedule changed, did not fly down to Ambon, had to return to Kalimantan.

05. I do not know, maybe she is still available.

06. Might as well you do some quick website search for lovely "black" beauties in Indonesia, as they say in the States. Once you go Black, you definitely would come Back.

Ciao,

Pete33.

[QUOTE=Sakaundeh;1435569]I'm looking for girls in Jakarta from the exotic locations of Indonesia, in particular, Kupang, Ambon and Papua, just for a change. Anyone know where in Jakarta I can find such?[/QUOTE]

Is it possible to buy viagra OTC in a Jakarta pharmacy? Thanks in advance for any info on this.

[QUOTE=John Traveller;1435926]Is it possible to buy viagra OTC in a Jakarta pharmacy? Thanks in advance for any info on this.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is quite easy to buy viagra, cialis, or other similar enhancement drugs in a Jakarta pharmacy without a prescription.

Unfortunately, the cost is relatively high: two. 20 mg of cialis costs Rp. 320, 000; however, if you are in the Kota area, you can buy knock-off cialis, ten 20 mg costs about Rps. 250, 000.

Bule2004

[QUOTE=Bule2004; 1436016]Yes, it is quite easy to buy viagra, cialis, or other similar enhancement drugs in a Jakarta pharmacy without a prescription.

Unfortunately, the cost is relatively high: two. 20 mg of cialis costs Rp. 320, 000; however, if you are in the Kota area, you can buy knock-off cialis, ten 20 mg costs about Rps. 250, 000.

Bule2004[/QUOTE]In the market in front of Lokasari Plaza in Mangga Besar there used to be a stall selling "Obat Pria" at reasonable prices (I forgot what those prices were, so it did not make much of an impression on me). I plan to go there this week to see if it is still there and to buy some. The staff was usually sleeping behind the counter but was easily awakened.

They had a large selection of obat, of which I only bought vitamin V and Cialis. If you want a complete bottle of Viagra (30 pills) the proprietor has to go and fetch it from his stock. As far as I can tell the stuff is real, from the looks and feel of the packaging to the effects.

On the south side of Jl. Mangga Besar, opposite the entrance road to Lokasari Plaza, is a pharmacy that sells original Viagra in press-out strips without prescription.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel;1436145]As far as I can tell the stuff is real, from the looks and feel of the packaging to the effects.[/QUOTE]I think these days generic Chinese sildenafil citrate is so cheap that people marketing viagra may just as well give you the real stuff as something completely ineffective. Maybe the dosage is lower in the knockoffs, but it doesn't seem to be a major issue.

The first two weeks were pretty bad, I had to get into it again I guess. I only had 3 girls and felt like a kid in the candystore who sees all the candy and wants it but cannot get it because it is stacked too high.

But then suddenly the tide changed, I met an insatiable girl and after that I was wearing a big grin on my face 24/7 and suddenly I got approached by more girls then I could handle in the malls. The last 3 weeks I got 3 girls from a mall (only because I have too many lined up from Dateinasia and Cupid but there are still some Mall girls in my phone I yet have to arrange a date with)

The dating sites (Dateinasia and Indonesiancupid) also started to deliver and because I felt really happy and comfortable I could joke and be funny with the dates from there and make them comfortable. The result was that 9 out of 10 girls went home with me on the first date.

I have not been to a club the last 3 weeks.

The last 3 weeks I have been seeing 12 girls, a big difference from the 3 girls I had in the first 2 weeks.

I am a sucker for freebees (always been) and I always tell the girls I meet and who want to come with me that they cannot come for the money, they don't seem to care. It really does help that I speak fluent bahasa. It also helps that I keep my body in perfect shape, girls don't like to admit it but they really appreciate guys who are in shape. Many people say Indonesian girls don't care about the physical part of a guy and that is partly true, but it surely does help to land a girl.

I even hit it off with a girl who was totally not into me initially, (very cute and sexy but a bit snobby) normally I would get all shy and lose my confidence but her attitude made me even more confident and I saw it as a real challenge to try to get her into my room. The moment she changed from drinking coke zero into Bintang I knew I had her.

I like to take my dates to a cheap but very nice cafe that is very popular among the Indonesian crowd, drinks here are ridiculously cheap but the vibe and the atmosphere of the place are so good that girls almost automatically become comfortable with you.

All in all I never had a better time in Indonesia as I have today, Ramadan will be upon us soon and I booked a ticket to Bali when it starts.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1436145]In the market in front of Lokasari Plaza in Mangga Besar there used to be a stall selling "Obat Pria" at reasonable prices (I forgot what those prices were, so it did not make much of an impression on me). I plan to go there this week to see if it is still there and to buy some. The staff was usually sleeping behind the counter but was easily awakened.

<SNIP

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]I went there today. The stocks were somewhat bigger today so the shop attendant could get my order immediately.

Asking price for a bottle of 30 Viagra (100 mg) was 1. 5 Juta which works out as 50, 000 per pill.

I bought two bottles for 2. 5 Juta. Didn't feel like heavy tawaring as the guy was friendly and helpful. Hadn't been there for over a year and he knew what I wanted. Before I left I checked the seals of the bottles, which he smilingly accepted.

Unfortunately on the way back to my hotel there was another demo against the lowering of subsidy on fuel. The Hizbut whatever had assembled another rent-a-mob to slow traffic on the Thamrin. They think shariah is the answer to the budgetary problems of the Indonesian government. What these morons don't realise is that nobody is impressed by these demos because everybody knows the protesters are hired thugs (5, 000 IDR, a packet of cigarettes and a small lunch gets you a demonstrator who will yell whatever you tell him).

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen;1434786]BTW, glad to see, I am not the only Dutch poster. What ever happened to the Dutch gents drinks on Thursdays nights? They used to be very popular.[/QUOTE]Our esteemed member mr. Menteng is of Dutch origin. He now lives in South America but I met him not so long ago in D's Place and I can vouch for his impeccable mastery of the Dutch language. Of course I did not check his passport, but I am pretty satisfied about his background.

Regards,

Ko

I'll be traveling to Jakarta next week for the second time (the first was only two days and I didn't get to do what I wanted). This time I'll have a little longer and more free time. I've been to Thailand many times and I'm a great fan of the oil massages there. I very much enjoy the BBBJCIM. A rim job to start things off is even better. A two girl session with simultaneous BJ and RJ followed by a little cum swapping is sheer heaven to me. So I'm wondering where I might be able to find this in this city. Thanks in advance for any help and advice. I'll certainly report back.

Finally finished work for the day and headed out for some eye and otherwise candy, in this very amazing stop. Wanted to check out red square, got myself a beer before paying the exorbitant 125000 for the first drink, anyways, paid up, got in and voila, the place is empty. Some women already hooked and none too amazing.

A bunch of 4-5's walked in around 11:30 and were obviously not my taste so finished my drink and walked away. All in all a big let down. Will check out the scene at CJ's tomorrow evening before I get out of Jakarta. In hindsight I should have rather spent my time chatting with one of the hostesses in my hotel club, that should have paid some dividends, if not this time, then in the next trip to town.

I might go down to Alexis just for the heck of it.

In case someone has recommendations of a must stop place. Do send me a PM, will be happy post back a report.

Cheers,

Snoop

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1434539]Inflation has reared its ugly head in D's Place. I was there Wednesday and went into the VIP room. Quite crowded in there with nude pole-dancing going on and some activity in the various private corners. That evening there were two dancing crews so a complete crew was back there. I was immediately approached by two of the young dancers with various proposals...[/QUOTE]Funny how when I pointed out the high-priced, poor value for money nature of the service provided by the "sexy dancers" in D's lately you got so indignant that you posted not one but two posts refuting what I had said and proclaiming that the sexy dancers in D's were in fact marvelous value for money who provided excellent service (even though in the post of yours to which I had replied you had explicitly stated that you didn't get "pom pom" from the sexy dancer as you normally did).

Now it appears that you have discovered that what I said was correct. The sexy dancers are over-priced and their service is touch and go, some will give you full service but with so many strings attached and at such a high price that it frankly isn't worth it.

Don't always be so quick to jump down the throats of people who are providing information here. What they report may not exactly coincide with your experiences but the possibility remains that the situation may have been subtly changing without your realizing it and that the poster might, just possibly, have noticed it before you did.

Kindest regards, and with full respect,

H

R&R was the furthest thing on my mind as I stepped out of the airport into the waiting car of my Jakarta hosts.

Right off the bat let me confess: I am not a seasoned monger; sure I have indulged in P4P on many a business trip in several countries, including in Asian countries; but until this year, Indonesia was virgin territory for me.

Back home before the trip, I flipped through the Jakarta board in Jackson's excellent site, I had no preconceived notions of Indo girls. But gentlemen, what a discovery! Even now, when I think back to my trysts I am astounded by the sheer variety and beauty of these delicate creatures. If I didn't have my photos to back up my memories, I might shrug off the whole thing as a dream. For those of you who are interested, let me tell my tale in parts. Most with photos, I promise.

Working with the local management in Jakarta and three other clients in three different time zones, it wasn't your usual business trip. Downside? Meetings and calls at all hours of the day. Upside? Whole bunch of downtime on expenses, to do as I pleased for two weeks!

Still jet lagged with a sledgehammer headache after a long flight, I am draged out to dinner (Chinese at Mulia) and later to CJ's by my host company buddy. Thursady night crowd. 6:4 ratio in favour of the guys. With local girls dressed for sale. Very friendly vibe. Girls smiled easily, some winked, others said hi and pretty soon four girls had invited themselves to our table; but a take out was not on my mind. The girls were maybe, in their late 20's / early 30's, more 'meh' than 'hot' except perhaps, one. Her hard body wrapped in a black cold shoulder dress with macramé hem sashaying over a shapely pair of legs, sporting knee high gladiator sandals. I admit I never expected Indo girls to be so up with fashion (albeit, not real brands but replicas).

Whilst three of the four were fun and flirty ("You can marry all of us. Then we go with you to your country, ok?";"You like four girls. Same time?") ; Ms Hardbody next to me was being more touchy. Feely than chatty. Her favourite word was 'creepy' in its many variations ("Oh! Look. Creepy guy","That fat one. Creepy smile","Creeped out")

Soon an old fart, tight as a boot, staggers over to our table and starts a conversation, if asking "what are you girls charging?" is starting a conversation (answer. From the oldest one of the four. Was 3 juta, each).

"300 for a fuck?" Mr Old Fart said incredulously but the girls were not negotiating; so he turns to me and my buddy and says "You blokes are paying far too much!" (Yes, price police are everywhere!) and huffily waddles off. I notice the dark patch in his pants; may be spilt drink. At least, I hope it was his drink. In case he is reading this. Mate, you really have to brush up on your pick up skills; it never hurts to be charming. These girls may be poor by our standards but they have their dignity.

"Is that the going rate?" I ask Ms Hardbody."For him. Yes" she says pronouncing the 'him' as vehemently as she has been saying 'creep' all night.

"Why didn't you say you are not that type of girl?"

"You can't say no to creeps, they think we are negotiating" they all laugh.

"What if he had agreed?" I press.

"Oh. Problem" one girl admits."Try finish him fast" another one of the four helpfully adds.

Come to think of it I remember reading a few posts here describing just this kind of thing, so I ask "Isn't that kinda dishonest?"

"O! Really? You make love to creeps like that for 300?" Ms Hardbody asks me and they all laugh raucously, including my buddy, I notice.

My local company buddy joins in,"They're saying they don't fuck him. They really fuck him!" He doubles down giggling like a school girl.

My head has a little guy jack hammering to get out. I only wanted to stay for one drink but Ms Hardbody has one arm around my shoulder and rubbing my inner thigh with her spare hand. It does feel kinda nice. I am beginning to have second thoughts about a take out.

So I ask in a tone only Ms Hardbody can hear "So, what is the real price?"

Ms Hardbody gets even closer, I can feel her breasts crushing against my arm. She puts her lips softly against my ear and whispers "Up to you!".

"Up to me? What if I don't pay at all?"

"That's ok, maybe we can go shopping in the morning"

Look, I negotiate for a living and even I admit, this girl can think on her feet!

"And that includes. Everything?" I whisper, trying to be nonchalant.

Her eyes twinkle at this question; her hand rubbing my thighs flits over my semi-bulge in my trousers. It is done so artfully, ever so lightly with those delicate fingers. Her hands, slides across my abs and my chest and on to my nipple, like a slave owner might do to a prize fighting slave before he auction. She looks directly into my eyes and says "Yes. Everything!"

The word is pronounced languorously, with those big black eyes opening and then slowly closing with the last syllable, as if Ms Hardbody herself is imagining 'everything'. She opens her eyes and bursts out laughing and says,"Naughty boy!" And pinches my nipple. Hard. Her pinch certainly packs a punch. I feel it for sometime after.

Anyway, plans of mice and men. Stars are not aligned for me this night, I get a call. Have to take an overseas conference call from client #1 . We have to go straightaway!

Bone tired with jet lag, a dynamite headache, sleep deprived and now thanks to Ms Hardbody congested balls, I farewell our companions much to their open dismay. Ms Hardbody and I exchange numbers and she whispers in my ear standing on her toes with her arms around me,"Call me after your meeting and I can come to your room"

"Not 3 juta? I ask, pronouncing the new word I had learned that night.

"No, Naughty Boy" says Ms Hardbody "I am not that type of girl!"

Walking sullenly away with my buddy to our meeting, I was already making mental plans as to how I would lay waste to that Hardbody when I next see her, and put her through her paces and throw her a fuck that she will remember for awhile.

But on that first night. Even as I made plans to fuck Ms Hardbody hard. I could have had no idea of the fucks (and fuck ups) Jakarta was lining up for me!

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1436648]Our esteemed member mr. Menteng is of Dutch origin. He now lives in South America but I met him not so long ago in D's Place and I can vouch for his impeccable mastery of the Dutch language. Of course I did not check his passport, but I am pretty satisfied about his background.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Dank je wel. Actually I know few more Dutch members, but I'the rather they expose themselves.

Actually there were also Dutch bar owners in jl Falatehan. G Strings, with the best facilities, but no girls, that didn't last long, had a Dutch owner and the owner of the former Bugil's bar who later tried his luck with One Tree Bar, was also Dutch.

[QUOTE=Menteng; 1437215]Dank je wel. Actually I know few more Dutch members, but I'the rather they expose themselves.

Actually there were also Dutch bar owners in jl Falatehan. G Strings, with the best facilities, but no girls, that didn't last long, had a Dutch owner and the owner of the former Bugil's bar who later tried his luck with One Tree Bar, was also Dutch.[/QUOTE]Bartele (the original Bule Gila) later started Eastern Promise on Jl. Kemang Raya. A successful bar annex restaurant that is popular among expats of various nationalities. He later sold part of his interest in the bar to another Dutchman, who is very good at running a bar. I was there yesterday and plan on going again this evening (om het af te leren). Bartele also started the Kazbar in the Central Business District and also has an art gallery.

Regards,

Ko

i am bone tired, sleepy as hell but paradoxically, i can't go to sleep! wtf? i toss and turn the whole night.

at last night's conference call it was arranged that i give a presentation next morning (actually this morning) to a few local banks at my host's office. i am not quite ready for the presentation which doesn't help. i sleep fitfully.

ms hardbody (refer day 1 report) is propped up on her elbow on my bed. her macramé hem hitched up above her waist. she is wearing no panties. one shapely leg is hooked over the headboard and the other is flung open at a hideous angle."come on naughty boy, do everything to me!" she is saying. old fart stands next to her, aggressively punching his open palm with his fist "and how much are you paying for this, mate?"

i wake up with a start at a persistent, thudding sound. is somebody trying to break in? no, it's the security. apparently i never answered my wake up call and the hotel had sent around the security to wake me up!

my host's office evidently has more female staff per floor space than anywhere in the world. many of them are way cuter than the girls last night at cj's. and then i see her! for a moment, except for her shimmering frame, the rest of the scene fades into a blury background and then slowly dissolves. she's bent over a photocopier feeding paper. she seems to have magically poured herself into a tight, body conscious short white skirt, made out of stretchy knit fabric which hugs the shapely contours of her ass. the skirt is set off by an indigo top tight across her flat tummy, with sleeves pulled up close to her elbows.

when she stands up, i see that she's five foot nothing, if that. (small as the girls you meet in vietnam). a pixie, smiling face. bright and expectant. petite, petite, petite. boobs, more than the size of a plum but smaller than a grapefruit. shaped like an orange, sliced in half. impossibly narrow waist, like a barbie doll's, which flares out sharply into a gorgeous bubble butt.

when she walks towards me, i am mesmerised by her bright, pretty face, shy, warm smile and large, mischievous eyes. when she walks away from me, i see her skirt tightening and squeezing those delectable buns, just enough jiggle in them to promise you. if you are ever lucky enough to squeeze them. that they will be pliable as a squash ball. a perfectly put together beauty, reminding you once again that god must be a man.

her name is yeni. she seems to be the general 'go to' person in the office, everyone seems to rely on her for everything. so i get her to help me too. pretty soon, there's tacit acknowledgement around the office that she's my personal gofer.

my buddy from last night, runs in to me,"you made a good choice with yeni". he gets closer and then whispers,"but, she has a boyfriend!"

"oh"

"it's ok, its ok. you can always try" he slaps me on the back, doubling down at the waist and giggling like a schoolgirl.

i am reminded of this later that evening in my hotel suite as yeni is kissing me, her petite form reflected on the hotel window, jakarta way down below, glued together in a traffic gridlock.

earlier over lunch, grabbing the ipad from my hand, yeni and few of her co-workers had friended me on facebook. but it was yenni who proceeded to curiously look through my friends list, remarking at one point "wha! lots of girls". she had then shaken her pretty head as if to banish the girls' images from her mind, and whispered "sex maniac"; her big eyes twinkling mischievously at me. henceforth, 'sex maniac' was her stealthy nickname for me.

"i am sure you have many boyfriends!" i had teased her in turn. she seems mortified saying in a sing song voice that many indo girls have: "me no boyfriend!" the 'are' in the 'friend' said in a guttural slur. across the table, my office buddy winks at me.

now, with the night sky descending on jakarta, yeni is pressed against me in the living room of my hotel suite. she is so tiny, i have to lift her clean off the floor by her haunches to let her kiss me; her legs wrapped round me and her ass cheeks putty in my hands.

yeni holds my face in her small hands, laying baby kisses on my eye brows, cheeks, tip of my nose, everywhere and then squeezes my lips together."you look like a frog!" i like the lilt of her laughter.

"are you saying i am ugly like a frog?"

yeni laughs throwing her head back "yes, very, very ugly" then she presses her forehead to mine,"but. with sexy lips". her eyes lower dreamily as she kisses me full on the lips, holding my face in her hands. this girl loves kissing.

i am completely seduced by her child-woman allure: pretty face of an 18 year old but with a body of a woman. a heady mix that makes you want to protect her and fuck her brains out. at the same time!

later, in the bedroom i try to remove her bra but she crosses her arms across her chest at the last moment and says apologetically,"they are not very big".

"boobs don't have to be big to be sexy" i reassure her.

"but me so small. not like. your many, many girlfriends" she says defensively."i promise, i love smaller ones too" i say and gently pry her hands apart.

yeni needn't have worried, they are definitely not 'small' by any measure, i specially like her raisin sized nips. as i start to kiss her tits, she arches her chest forward, as if making an offering. i commence my pointed journey down her flat stomach, letting my hands pinch and stroke her nipples.

she has soft pubes covering her tiny pussy. she shyly holds her thighs tightly together. i gently open her knees apart like a ripe fruit to reveal her pussy lips to me. (if you want to know what her pussy looked like, google 'flower clitoria'. i am not kidding!) she looks vulnerable in that position. but i begin by kissing her silky, soft inner thighs first, deliberately avoiding her pussy, and making her wait for my tonguing. yeni bucks against me, and turns her head to bite the pillow, her hands ruffling up my hair and expectantly directing my head towards her eager clit. when my tongue finally gets to lick her pussy lips, her moans get louder and she bucks even more against me, pressing my face tight against her arched pelvis. i make her wait some more before tonguing her pretty little clit.

yeni goes wild, her body thrashes about like a wounded snake. within moments, i feel her whole body shudder as yeni comes heavily with a shriek. her body keeps shuddering intermittently for a good five minutes after.

when yeni finally regains her composure, i slide off her and she drags herself up with me on to the edge of the bed. i am still in my shirt and jeans, so i begin taking my shirt off. her wide eyed look, at the site of my smooth chest and abs, tells me a fully waxed torso is something new to her. she runs her slender fingers reverently over the smooth hardness of my chest and stomach, remarking "wow" before holding me close by the waist, licking and then nipping at my abs.

i take my jeans off and stand before her with my erection tight against the contour pouch of my briefs. yeni runs her fingers appreciatively over the bulge and eagerly looks up, like a little girl about to unwrap her christmas present. she kisses the contours of my bulge through the briefs before pulling them down. released fom its confinement, my cock springs out. like a bruised punisher leaping into the boxing ring at the sound of the bell. if yeni has not seen a waxed torso before, her stifled gasp now tells me she definitely has not seen a full brazilian!

she immediately slides to her knees, as if commanded by an ethereal voice and nestles her face to the velvety hardness of my smooth shaft and hairless balls. she looks up at me with the cock pressed against her pretty face. with her soft lips slightly open she brushes them up and down my rock hard shaft and asks expectantly "for me?"

hope you like the pictures (sorry about the quality, they were taken with ipad's crappy camera)

[QUOTE=Alpha Cue; 1437254]She has soft pubes covering her tiny pussy. She shyly holds her thighs tightly together. I gently open her knees apart like a ripe fruit to reveal her pussy lips to me. (If you want to know what her pussy looked like, google 'flower clitoria'. I am not kidding!) She looks vulnerable in that position. But I begin by kissing her silky, soft inner thighs first, deliberately avoiding her pussy, and making her wait for my tonguing. Yeni bucks against me, and turns her head to bite the pillow, her hands ruffling up my hair and expectantly directing my head towards her eager clit. When my tongue finally gets to lick her pussy lips, her moans get louder and she bucks even more against me, pressing my face tight against her arched pelvis. I make her wait some more before tonguing her pretty little clit.

Yeni goes wild, her body thrashes about like a wounded snake. Within moments, I feel her whole body shudder as Yeni comes heavily with a shriek. Her body keeps shuddering intermittently for a good five minutes after.[/QUOTE]Nice writing skills Bro; felt like reading an adult story :P.

Thanks / G

[QUOTE=Alpha Cue;1437254][/QUOTE]Alpha, you have fantastic writing style, and including the photos really adds to the story. Can't wait to read your next instalment! The girl looks perfect.

Alpha,

You have great narrative skills. I felt I was reading a film script in LA. Have fun in Jakarta.

Cheers

[QUOTE=John Aldrich; 1437478]Alpha,

You have great narrative skills. I felt I was reading a film script in LA. Have fun in Jakarta.

Cheers[/QUOTE]John, ConquerorVal, Gajith,

You guys are so generous. I am touched that you took the trouble to let me know about my posts. Thank you!

I enjoyed writing about my trip, it was as if I was reliving the whole thing. Curiously, I was remembering stuff that was not uppermost in my conscious memory!

Thanks again, I hope I can say thanks in person, if I am lucky to visit your wonderful country again!

Alpha

[QUOTE=John Aldrich; 1437478]Alpha,

You have great narrative skills. I felt I was reading a film script in LA. Have fun in Jakarta.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Alpha, I also want to contribute to all the praise about your writing and, as poor as the quality of the Ipad photos may be, to the undeniable quality of Yeni's body.

However, to avoid possible harassment by your office buddy of the previous night, maybe you should have made up a different environment and name for her.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1437846]maybe you should have made up a different environment and name for her.[/QUOTE]I was about to add something very similar.

The writing is good (well, apart from the "me so small, not like", which doesn't sound like something a professional Indonesian office worker with presumably good English skills would say, but we'll put that down to poetic license) , however on the basis that the story is as reported far too much detail has been provided.

I don't just mean about "Yeni", I presume, I hope, that's not her real name.

Reading this forum you might think there are only a select few wizened old mongers who read the posts. In fact most expat guys in Jakarta read it all the time, only a very few actually contribute. I guarantee that if the details of the night out, the work schedule, the office situation etc are correct then Alpha Cue has already been identified by at least one of his colleagues. Most will enjoy the writing and leave it at that but as sure as night follows day one of them will show it to Yeni or someone senior in the company.

I know of which I speak. I have been there and regretted it.

Take care

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1437913]I was about to add something very similar.I know of which I speak. I have been there and regretted it.Take care[/QUOTE]Maybe lcaoting the whole story in a different time period could haev been a way to stir the water and reduce the visibility.

it's always an exiting experience to arrive in a new country for the first time. so also for indonesia. i arrive in jakarta with a feeling mixed of excitement and impatience. at the airport i have a hard time finding an atm, everybody just say "further" or "next". then i am told it's upstairs. then it's on to finding a taxi, the bluebird line is long, i wait more than half an hour. (next time i will take the damri bus.) finally i get a taxi, it's just half an hour and 75k rupi with the taximeter. the driver asks for 90k, i give him. when i finally arrive at sparks hotel it's late at night and i decide to wait until the next day to explore the city.

the next evening i check out the places at sparks, nothing interesting. on the top floor there is a bar attached to a karaoke joint, some girls there, but not attractive in my eyes. on the ground floor they have a live music venue, but that's a place for lb and boring as well. i walk to hotel travel, ten minutes. the bar / club is on the ground floor without cc. at the door they give me a wristband with a number. all drinks are added to the number and the customer pays when leaving. inside there's a stage with dancing girls in bikini, some pool tables and a large seating area + of course girls seated in several groups around, each group with their own mamasan. immideately i am approached by a mamasan. i tell here to wait until i have scouted the whole club, i come back and she asks "round or slim?" "slim", i reply. she points to girl with her laser. the girl is reluctant to come at first, a bad sign, but she is beautiful so i take her. 325k to the mamasan right away (for one hour). we go to a room (no extra pay). she is really nice but the whole session is somewhat impersonal, no kissing, no bbbj. only cbj, then fs.

then i take a taxi. 14k, to hotel classic. opposed to travel, classic has bars on three different floors: g. 2 and 5. the bar at the ground floor charges 75k in cc. so i do what i usually do, ask if i can take a quick peek for free. and as usually the doorman reluctantly allows me to stand i the doorway and watch the show for a few seconds. i don't go in, instead i decide to check out the bars upstairs. those bars have the same system as hotel travel, but they are better, better looking girls and they dance topless. the bar at 5th is the best. also here the mamasans are actively pursuing the guests, i ward them off because i want time to look around. then a girl approach me at my table, minimal english, but otherwise very nice, so i go with her. 315k. it's bit funny when we have to wait for a room, some confusion among the staff, so we are scuffled around back and forth in the corridors among all the other pairs."mass-production", i think. lol. anyway, the procedure is the same as in hotel travel: clean, hygienic, efficient, but this girl is more personal, a bit kissing, bbbj and energic fs. somewhat good (i am spoiled). before i leave i check out the bar in the ground floor. topless dancing there also. but this bar seems a bit different, instead of asking for a "bar-fine" the girls asks for lady drinks. as with the other bars i visit this night i see no other westerners. now it's late and i decide to return to my own hotel. outside the door there's a taxi stand for bluebirds, i get a taxi. as soon as i get in the driver points to a sticker: "minum fare 30k". something to do with "taxi on stand by", i am told.

then back in sparks. a good hotel btw. 500k a nite, but some issues with noise (until 2:30) , sigarette smoke and low wifi-connection in some rooms + calls to prayer. well anyway, tomorrow is another day, i will then investigate bats, cj's and maybe malioboro, stadium. before moving on to southern jakarta in a few days.

[QUOTE=John Traveller;1438276]When I finally arrive at Sparks hotel it's late at night and I decide to wait until the next day to explore the city. The next evening I check out the places at Sparks, nothing interesting. On the top floor there is a bar <snip> On the ground floor they have a live music venue, but that's a place for LB and boring as well. I walk to Hotel travel, ten minutes. The bar / club is on the ground floor without CC. At the door they give me a wristband with a number. ,[/QUOTE]Hotel Travel. Hotel Classic. You explored the generic point and click experience. Not sure hygenic is the word though: lookers there are doing some heavy volume.

Thanks John. An excellent report with rates, what to expect, logistics and great info.

I am looking forward to your more trip reports from Jakarta, and please continue sharing. This is a high quality report and is worth saving for future trips.

[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1438276]It's always an exiting experience to arrive in a new country for the first time. So also for Indonesia. I arrive in Jakarta with a feeling mixed of excitement and impatience. At the airport I have a hard time finding an atm, everybody just say "further" or "next". Then I am told it's upstairs. Then it's on to finding a taxi, the Bluebird line is long, I wait more than half an hour. (Next time I will take the Damri bus.) Finally I get a taxi, it's just half an hour and 75k rupi with the taximeter. The driver asks for 90k, I give him. When I finally arrive at Sparks hotel it's late at night and I decide to wait until the next day to explore the city.

Then back in Sparks. A good hotel BTW. 500k a nite, but some issues with noise (until 2:30) , sigarette smoke and low wifi-connection in some rooms + calls to prayer. Well anyway, tomorrow is another day, I will then investigate Bats, CJ's and maybe Malioboro, Stadium. Before moving on to southern Jakarta in a few days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1438276]The next evening I check out the places at Sparks, nothing interesting. On the top floor there is a bar attached to a karaoke joint, some girls there, but not attractive in my eyes. On the ground floor they have a live music venue, but that's a place for LB and boring as well. I walk to Hotel travel, ten minutes. The bar / club is on the ground floor without CC. At the door they give me a wristband with a number. All drinks are added to the number and the customer pays when leaving. Inside there's a stage with dancing girls in bikini, some pool tables and a large seating area + of course girls seated in several groups around, each group with their own mamasan. Immideately I am approached by a mamasan. I tell here to wait until I have scouted the whole club, I come back and she asks "round or slim?" "Slim", I reply. She points to girl with her laser. The girl is reluctant to come at first, a bad sign, but she is beautiful so I take her. 325k to the mamasan right away (for one hour). We go to a room (no extra pay). She is really nice but the whole session is somewhat impersonal, no kissing, no BBBJ. Only CBJ, then FS.

Then back in Sparks. A good hotel BTW. 500k a nite, but some issues with noise (until 2:30) , sigarette smoke and low wifi-connection in some rooms + calls to prayer. Well anyway, tomorrow is another day, I will then investigate Bats, CJ's and maybe Malioboro, Stadium. Before moving on to southern Jakarta in a few days.[/QUOTE]Did you go to the Spa at Sparks Hotel? Some say that their theme rooms are pretty good, but the girls is limited and depend on your luck.

The Ground Floor at Classic provide girls (local and import). Local girls are more expensive here than 2nd and 5th floor, but the quality usually better.

Last time I went there about 4 months ago, go to the room with a girl from Mongolia (import). Fair service, I will give 7.

[QUOTE=John Traveller;1438276]It's always an exiting experience to arrive in a new country for the first time. So also for Indonesia. I arrive in Jakarta with a feeling mixed of excitement and impatience. At the airport I have a hard time finding an atm, everybody just say "further" or "next". Then I am told it's upstairs. Then it's on to finding a taxi, the Bluebird line is long, I wait more than half an hour. (Next time I will take the Damri bus.) Finally I get a taxi, it's just half an hour and 75k rupi with the taximeter. The driver asks for 90k, I give him. When I finally arrive at Sparks hotel it's late at night and I decide to wait until the next day to explore the city.[/QUOTE]- there used to be some ATMs between the immigration counters and the baggage carousels, too bad if they are not still there.

- Sorry you had to wait so long for a cab. Next time take Silver Bird instead of Blue Bird, it's the slightly higher priced branch of the Blue Bird Companies. The fare may be 15-20, 000 rupiah higher, but there's never a long line, the car's more comfortable and the drivers usually speak better English.

[QUOTE=John Traveller;1438276]75k rupi with the taximeter. The driver asks for 90k, I give him.[/QUOTE]Unless you personally paid the tolls along the way, he's asking for more than the meter because of tolls and airport fee. I think they pay 8,000 rupiah airport fee (they usually present the receipt to you as you enter the taxi) and the toll is like 12 or 15,000.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1438385]- there used to be some ATMs between the immigration counters and the baggage carousels, too bad if they are not still there.[/QUOTE]If you exit to the left after Immigration (the main block of desks for Indonesians and KITAS, Diplomats etc) after a few meters on your right there is an ATM gallery of sorts. BCA and a couple of others.

As far as taxi charges go there is an airport surcharge which varies slightly depending on destination. The person sorting the taxi, I. E. A Bluebird representative will give you a card which details the charge. Around 10, 000 IDR so you need to add that plus the toll charge if the drive paid direct.

On the subject of taxis, you won't come unstuck if you take an Express, Gamya, Taxiku from the airport. All those trips are logged and meters used etc. You may have communication issues though in terms of English.

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound;1438414]On the subject of taxis, you won't come unstuck if you take an Express, Gamya, Taxiku from the airport. All those trips are logged and meters used etc. You may have communication issues though in terms of English.[/QUOTE]Other than Bluebird or Silverbird. Express, Gamya, Taxiku and White Horse are fine. Pretty much any other taxis are not fine.

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1437218]Bartele (the original Bule Gila) later started Eastern Promise on Jl. Kemang Raya. A successful bar annex restaurant that is popular among expats of various nationalities. He later sold part of his interest in the bar to another Dutchman, who is very good at running a bar. I was there yesterday and plan on going again this evening (om het af te leren). Bartele also started the Kazbar in the Central Business District and also has an art gallery.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Went to EP Saturday evening and discovered that it is far more than a bar.

When you enter the front door you are in the general bar with a separate room with a pooltable.

There is a corridor to the rear which leads to the restaurant. To the right there is a sports bar with several large TV's. Behind the sports bar there is a large beer garden. Saterday there was a big party on for the seasons end of the Jakarta International Football competition. Decent live music and a huge amount of stunning ladies in the garden. Unfortunately they were all with a (mostly bule) partner.

Great party though.

Returned home quite late and went to the Netherlands Sunday afternoon.

Regards,

Ko

Hi guys,

Back in sex prison for all of 3 weeks. Read my reports here and in other Indonesian sections to see why it really is a sex prison.

Two (or three) reports here: (Go look for my other report. Worth a read!)

DIA. I got rid of girlfriend number 1. Just too boring. Friday night a DIA date. Movie and dinner. (New S. Man movie blows) Score! 32 works for an ins. Company. A good time.

DIA. Sunday date. Lunch a movie and dinner. (Z movie. Two thumbs up!) Score! 33 year old with curves on a small frame. The girl has an American backside and moved it like an American. Good time. Bragging time. She hit the O 9 times. Claimed it was the most ever and second place was only 4 times. Will def hit it again.

The point of these reports is that DIA is loaded with women in their late 20's early thirties that are just begging to go out on a date. These are educated attractive women and in most cases are hard up for some attention from western guys. Tagged is the same thing. Takes only a few minutes and you have tail. Both women did not ask for a rupiah. Nothing. Taxi fare etc.

If you did not notice, there is a gap in my weekend report. Many are asking."WTF0506. Did you sit home on a Sat. Night?"

Umm actually I did!

Girlfriend #2 is now number 1. She is early 20's stands 145 cm (4 ft. 9) and weighs 35 kg. Really a sweet girl. We had a couple of threesomes in the past (and a foursome) but none of them were full girl on girl action. I had shown her some porn of G2G and she really seemed to get into it, often ripping off my clothes afterwards for a quick ride.

I had given her some money for new clothes and she walks in with a very short black skirt and black C. F. M. Heels. Ten minutes after she comes in there is a soft knock at the door and I let in my old friend. (One of you guys gave a report on her. She had a nose job?) She and I had met at BATS back in October. I think I wrote a report on her then.

She is 25 stands 148 cm and weighs 38 kg. She is very very very hot.

So here I am with two girls and their ages added do not equal mine. Their weight together is 75% of mine. And both are 30 cm (over a foot below me) What is a guy to do?

The two compared outfits. Both in very short skirts. They compared heights back 2 back.

We head back to the bedroom and clothes are off. My old friend wastes no time and goes down on my girl friend. Such a sweet sound as you hear the sound of a tongue working inside of a wet pussy. The girl friend had only originally wanted to try a girl going down on her. But things change in the heat of passion. I turn around and she has the girl spread out on the bed with her tiny tongue tentatively licking up and down. Me pounding away from behind and hearing her grunting as I go deep.

That gentlemen is a typical weekend. You should hear about my week outside of Jakarta. It is an amazing two days.

Took a while to write it. Sukabumi is well south of Jakarta.

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[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1438519]Went to EP Saturday evening and discovered that it is far more than a bar.

When you enter the front door you are in the general bar with a separate room with a pooltable.

There is a corridor to the rear which leads to the restaurant. To the right there is a sports bar with several large TV's. Behind the sports bar there is a large beer garden. Saterday there was a big party on for the seasons end of the Jakarta International Football competition. Decent live music and a huge amount of stunning ladies in the garden. Unfortunately they were all with a (mostly bule) partner.

Great party though.

Returned home quite late and went to the Netherlands Sunday afternoon.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Not uncommon to "pull" from that back bar on a weekend night.

On my second day I go to the bar in Sparks hotel, tonight they have dancers. The sitting area is really dark, imposssible to get a good look on the ladies asking for LDs there. So I move on to the infamous club Stadium. It's not far from my hotel, but the streets of Jakarta is really tiresome to walk, so I go by taxi. Also this time the Bluebird charges the minimum amount of 30k, but I found out that they not always do this, even from a hotel. An alternative is to get a cab from another company and then negotiate the price, usually that means 20k for a short trip. Anyway, when I get to Stadium I become surprised, it's smaller and more "normal" than expected. In fact it's neither that interesting nor dangerous as some say. Can this be the right place? Maybe it's some kind of copy? No, it is the original, it has the four floors as I have heard about: The 4th has the disco, I arrive at 11 pm on a weekday, so few people there. CC is 50k including a drink. The mamasans push their girls. On the 3rd floor the girls push themselves. Here they dance topless also, really sexy girls here. The best floor, but watch out for the LDs, I buy one for 50k, then the waitress arrives with a tray with very small glasses. The girl empties the glass quickly and the waitress asks "one more?". That's what I call a rip-off.

I move on to Marlioboro. The cc is 120k. Some of girls here are really sexy, bot others are more normal pretty like the ones in Hotel Classic. I have heard about the high prices here so I don't buy any LDs. The best in this place is just to watch the nude dancers. IMO both Stadium and Marlioboro is somewhat hyped and not worth the money. But as always in this game it's a question of individual taste.

First on the Bluebird. The door states a charge of 30, 000 if you call to reserve a taxi. The charge for flag down is just the initial 6, 000. I have had drivers try to charge me the 30, 000 for a 10, 000 ride. Just take out your phone and take a photo of his licencing including the meter. The amount will change.

Down in that area it is hard to find a trustworthy taxi. IMHO bluebird / Pulski or express are equally trustworthy. Express is the White cabs with an E on the top.

Stadium, I also was there recently for the first time. (Well had done the hotel a few times and the strip show) It was my first for the club scene. I was not impressed. Smaller crowd and mostly guys. I was there on a Sat. Night from 1130 until 330am and the only attention I got was from the working girls. I did see pills passed and popped plus many kids stoned out of their mind.

Not worth my time for another trip.

The third day I relocate to Blok M. At 10 pm I go to investigate Jalan Falatehan. The first impression is not good, the street is dark and quiet. To early, I guess. The only bar with a lot of activity is D's. A few dancers on stage, some pretty, but as I have understood it from posts on this forum they are not for take-out. The other girls in this bar are generally not pretty, although there are exceptions. The really bad thing about this place is the old hags walking around asking for LD's, blowjobs, etc. Also the air-con is not working, the beer glasses are small and the coke is warm. On the upside there is a congenial atmosphere, and the waitresses are really friendly and nice. I move on to Top Gun, but it's almost empty at this time so I decide to come back later. The other bars are also quiet at this time.

I catch a bluebird down to Hotel Shangri-La. This time the driver don't charge the minimum charge of 30k even if I booked the taxi from my hotel, I only pay 23k. Downstairs at Shangrila is the bar Bats. 120k cc. Lots of people there at 11 pm. I guess 50/50 men / women. A nice place with live music. I notice a girl sitting alone at a large table so I ask if it's ok for me to sit down. She replies yes (of course!) Beautiful face, but a bit too round in her shapes for my taste. We talk a bit. She says she's really happy that I came along since she was alone and bored. (Reminds me of the South Park episode "Raisins". LOL.) She wants 1500k for LT (really just 5 hours). I reply 800k, but she doesn't like that figure. I say bye-bye and return to Blok M. (Siverbird Taxi is 42k on the meter, almost double a Bluebird.)

At midnight Top Gun is choked and lots of interesting women there. (The girls in bars like Bats and the bars in Blok M are all freelancers?) I chat up one. Early 20s, small in stature, really nice. 500 k. I don't bother trying to haggle or ask if she goes for ST or LT. We take a taxi back to my hotel. 20k for a short ride (at first a taxi drivers quotes me 50k. Ridicolous!) Good BBBJ and her pussy is really tight. But her breath is not good. (Anybody has experience with this? It seems to be more of a problem in Indonesia than in other Asian countries.) It's only ST of course and she leaves quickly, that's ok since she wasn't up for a gf-experience anyway.

The fourth day I go to Hotel Melawai in the afternoon. I walk there, but then something a bit funny or really more annoying happens. After reading (and thinking about) a detailed report on this forum I get a hard-on while walking there. I need to have my hands in my pocket to hide it. "Can they see?" am I thinking.

The bar / massage Maribaya is on the 5th floor (don't mix it up with the regular massage on 2nd floor). I get to choose between 6 girls, but as so often the light is not bright enough to make a good choice. I manage to pick one and we go into a small room. 500k. (Some of the others want to be in too: "You want two girls?" But one is enough.) Adequate facilities, but smelly towels. We shower and then it's onto a good BBBJ and FS. Opposed to the girl I met in Top Gun last night this one only has a "normal" tight pussy. She's friendly and of course know her profession well. Afterwords she gives a regular massage too!

As a conclusion on Jakarta I recommend Hotel Classic for ST with a Pro, and Top Gun for a freelancer.
I was somewhat disappointed with Block M and Fellatehan, I hope it not will end up like Taipei.
In Block M I stayed at Hotel Griyadi which I recommend.

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1439327]I have had drivers try to charge me the 30, 000 for a 10, 000 ride.[/QUOTE]If there is a cue of taxis waiting for fares, I never give them less than 30, 000 even for a 10, 000 ride simply because they have normally been waiting in that cue for hours and I feel it unethical to give them less than the fare required when phoning for a taxi. However, if I hail a taxi in the streets that is simply driving around looking for fares, I always give them meter price.

You know there are just so many factors to consider when looking for a f* *k or blowjob in Jakarta.

All nighter or just some afternoon delight? Do I want to go north or south? Do I feel like working on a freelancer or just opting for the point-and-click of one of the big clubs? How old do I want her? Anything's available in this town (up to a point) , fresh-faced students looking to pay university fees (or more likely buy e tabs) or slightly desperate single mothers, or hey as I've managed a few times, slightly desperate single mothers and their fresh-faced student daughters, anything's possible in J-Town. How much do I want to pay? Two hundred thou for a quick and dirty in a shebeen in west Jakarta or five mill for an hour with the sinetron artist you saw on TV last night? What type do you like? Small, shy and kampung brown or tall, proud and Chinese white? Can she speak English or will my pidgin Bahasa get me through (never let me down yet)? How many? How long? How often? Jeebus Heebus, so many questions, so many decisions, so many women.

Know what I never give a fiddler's fart about? Taxis.

Did I pay 20,000 or 30,000 to the blue, white or yellow cab driver? Can't recall and couldn't care less. We're talking about one dollar give or take, if you're a Brit that's about 60 pence, you know the price of a smelly bus ride into town back home. Sheesh guys, let it go.

Look at the big picture fellas.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1439493]If there is a cue of taxis waiting for fares, I never give them less than 30, 000 even for a 10, 000 ride simply because they have normally been waiting in that cue for hours and I feel it unethical to give them less than the fare required when phoning for a taxi. However, if I hail a taxi in the streets that is simply driving around looking for fares, I always give them meter price.[/QUOTE]I agree that most taxi drivers want and expect a substantial tip if the meter price is low and the trip short. I don't usually give 30, 000, but at least 5, 000 over the meter price is normal. And taxi drivers outside clubs and bars always expect a bit more. Blue Bird drivers usually don't say anything if you just give them the metered fare, but they won't be very happy. The others are likely to demand it up front.

EDIT: Hehe. I just saw Hilo77's post. Fair enough, but a little bit of thought to the logistics of the operations doesn't go astray. Paying a small tip enables me to think less about taxis and keeps my interactions with them down to a minimum. And I don't care about the color of the taxi, but avoiding really bad ones reduces hassles too. A general rule of thumb is that taxis that are in crappy condition have crappy drivers.

I've enjoyed reading the last 7 pages of this forum. Chock full of good reports, encouraging comments and helpful tips with very little bullshit to wade through. I'm based in Thailand and the difference between this board and ours is significant. Over the years the value of our posts has eroded significantly. Much of that, certainly not all, is because some members like to criticize other people's posts as not being a valid contribution. Like how to deal with the taxis. I very much appreciate reading the details so I know how it works when I return. I've been there only 3 times in the past few years but dropped in to catch up on the scene as it is today. Keep up the good work guys, I think this forum is basically a good example of how we should be doing it.

C4T

[QUOTE=John Traveller;1438276]Then it's on to finding a taxi, the Bluebird line is long, I wait more than half an hour. (Next time I will take the Damri bus.) Finally I get a taxi, it's just half an hour and 75k rupi with the taximeter. The driver asks for 90k, I give him.[/QUOTE]I suppose he payed the toll for you.

Last trip I went upstairs again (the departures level / which has 4 different atm's on each side iirc). I walked to the end on the left as there are less people, no cops this time and lots of place for a taxi to stop and pull over. The drivers, mostly bluebirds, look at you and check if you signal in the Indonesian way. I never get really used to that waiving style. I open the trunk (driver stays seated) , throw in my baggage, get in and drive off. No waiting cues (2 seconds for a taxi. 20 seconds if you are picky) , no airport charge, just the metered price + toll. It is a huge bonus already that they can take someone back from the airport. As bluebirds get payed bonuses for an active day and have more chance for another tip.

If the airport security / guidance guys whistle the driver explained courtesy is that they drop 2000 IDR as a thank you gift.

Does anyone know if there is a massage service (other then just the foot reflexology) somewhere in the airport?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1437846]Alpha, I also want to contribute to all the praise about your writing and, as poor as the quality of the Ipad photos may be, to the undeniable quality of Yeni's body.[/QUOTE]Menteng,

You are far too generous about my writing but right on the money about the poor quality of my ipad photos not doing justice to Yeni's smoking hot body!

By the way, on the question of the surfeit of detail in my posts, I try to use detail as Jan van Eyck uses detail in Arnolfini Portrait. Not to pin point but to add tone, texture, hue and colour. And make everything more intense, more vivid.

Detail in sex writing that is merely accurate descends into pornography (which may be exciting for some but likely to be detested by many as tedious).

My aim was to create an interesting read (with credibility) ; not a factoid (with authenticity). The nail biting evident in some of the comments fearing that the protagonist's identity might be revealed suggests, I've achieved my aim in some measure.

Once again, my sincere thanks to you for taking the trouble to write and let me know about my posts!

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1437913]I know of which I speak. I have been there and regretted it.

Take care[/QUOTE]Bro Hilo77,

I am moved by your concerns. It touches me deeply that even though you have never met me that you care so deeply about a fellow poster to watch his back.

But happily for both of us, you have worried yourself needlessly on my account.

I am not saying that your trepidation about my posts (Alpha Cue's posts titled 'Virgin trip to Jakarta. Day 1 and Day 2', #7381 & #7384) are not well founded. But the assumptions. About my personal circumstance. That underlie that trepidation do not apply.

Relevantly, I am not saying what you appear to have presumed about me may not apply to another poster out there somewhere. Indeed if there is such a poster, let's all hope that poor sod takes heed of your wise counsel.

In the meantime, let me clear up some possible, misconceptions about me and my TR:

No, of course 'Yeni' is not the girl's real name. However, I confess my pseudonym for her was not borne out of altruism or any sense of noblesse oblige but something far more prosaic : I needed an exotic name that was befitting of the girl's magnificent face and body. 'Yeni' I am afraid was the best I could come up with. Blame it on my poor imagination!

As for the the foreboding that I might be outed by my business colleagues, I can set your mind at rest. Among my business acquaintances, my professional reputation is as well known as my reputation with the ladies. Let me assure you the legend built up by my business circle about my sexual escapades would make any TR posted in this forum tame by comparison. (I am sure you can picture my colleagues, tanked pleasantly after work, with elbows propped up on the bar talking;"Oh! That's nothing. Let me tell you about the time when he got sprung il fragante delicto right in the middle of a torrid threesome in. Of all places. Our boardroom. I am not joking! A mother-daughter combo, right? And listen, not just any mother and daughter! But the wife and progeny of the target company's CEO! I. Most defintely. Am. Not. Kidding! Ha! Ha! Slap bang in the middle of a complex due diligence, apparently!")

As for the fear that the girl herself might be outed. The fact of the matter is I don't look like the Howdy Doody guy (I know one's looks are the roll of the dice of genetics, no personal credit etc.) but a girl who goes out with someone with my looks and reputation knows she's going to get fucked. Hell, even the most naive bystander witness to my moves on a girl will know that the girl is going to get fucked. So, if there is indeed a single, innocent soul. Within the Jakarta office, who still believes that the prettiest girls I picked out to run errands were eagerly flitting between the office and my hotel suite for their own, professional development. Well, I am sanguine that there are unlikely to be many others.

As for the apprehension that my local company buddy (of all people) might deduce my identity by stumbling onto my TR. Perish the thought and wash your mouth out. He is a devoted, married man, surely, he doesn't visit mongering sites! And besides, he. Like all Indonesian married men. Has never been unfaithful and besides, he will surely find the notion of Indo girls being all over a young, good looking, single, wealthy, foreigner utterly preposterous!

And finally, as for the dread that 'Yeni' herself might be shown my TR. I wish I could show you the posts that Yeni (and some of my other 'conquests' from the Jakarta office) still leave on my facebook wall! I can guarantee there isn't a single 'non participating' co-worker of Yeni's, who reads these colourful gigling, descriptions, and who still believes that Yeni and the rest of the pretty young things learnt so much about my intimate parts by shaking my hand. Fear not on Yeni's account, she's adept at taking care of herself!

Anyway, Bro Hilo77 now that you've got me really, really spooked about being outed, I guess I can't tell you guys about the night I met these two Indonesian looking cockney flower-girls called Eliza and Martha Doolittle?

Photos still taken with the crappy ipad camera but I do hope the other flower-girls won't recognise them tomorrow in Covent Garden!

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1439515]anything's possible in J-Town.

Look at the big picture fellas.[/QUOTE]J-Town? The Big Durian?

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1439515]Did I pay 20, 000 or 30, 000 to the blue, white or yellow cab driver? Can't recall and couldn't care less. We're talking about one dollar give or take, if you're a Brit that's about 60 pence, you know the price of a smelly bus ride into town back home. Sheesh guys, let it go.

Look at the big picture fellas.[/QUOTE]Gee I got to defend about a dollar? The case I mentioned there was no wait and it was a clear sign of trying to rip off a bule. Hell if he charged the correct rate he would have received a large tip. I have had drivers get lost in order to boost the fare. Those were bluebird as well.

I tip way above the average here for taxi service or if they will get stuck in traffic after dropping me off. I just cannot stand a rip off.

The point is that bluebird / pulski and express are usually the cabs that are the safest to use. They have been cases of fake taxis. You walk in and are trapped inside with no door handles. Be safe and be smart.

Is the Mercure Hotel Kota gf and good located to the nightlife?

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1439990]I have had drivers get lost in order to boost the fare. Those were bluebird as well.[/QUOTE]Although it does happen, I usually get just the opposite. The drivers almost always want to take the route that will be the shortest drive and cheapest fare. I normally have to re-direct them to take the long way around since the long way around may have a higher fare, but it's faster due to traffic. I'd prefer paying a little more than sitting in that damn traffic for an hour just to save a buck or two. When I ask them why they want to take the route with the most traffic (and ask them if they are crazy to want to be stuck in that traffic) , they normally tell me that they didn't want me to get angry because they took the long way to avoid traffic because the meter would be higher.

Then again, there are some taxi drivers who ask "you want to go tollway" to get to places you can get to faster than without taking the tollway. Those guys can go screw themselves and are likely suggesting that to jack up the fare. It's a rare occasion where taking the tollway in a taxi to go anywhere within Jakarta other than the airport is a smart idea.

You need to avoid the beat up taxis that wait outside the discos at 4am, but I do think that overall, taxis in Jakarta are more honest than any other city I've ever been in. And the prices are cheap other than the Silverbirds.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1437157]<SNIP

Don't always be so quick to jump down the throats of people who are providing information here. What they report may not exactly coincide with your experiences but the possibility remains that the situation may have been subtly changing without your realizing it and that the poster might, just possibly, have noticed it before you did.

Kindest regards, and with full respect,

H[/QUOTE]My reaction to you was merely about the observation that VIP-room service was only provided by the old hags. Anybody familiar with my postings knows that "jumping down throats" is not my habit. If you experience someone disagreeing with you as such, that's your own problem.

End of discussion.

Regards,

Ko

I'm thinking of doing a short trip to Jakarta (out of Singapore) between August 14 and 17, and noticed that the 17th will be Independence Day. Any thoughts on how that might impact the days I am considering as far as venues being open, or anything else like lodging / transportation?

Also, will girls be back from their Ramadan travels by then?

I've been to Jakarta twice, and may consider Phnom Penh as an alternative since I have never been there. Any input comparing the two places would be welcome as well.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1440500]I'm thinking of doing a short trip to Jakarta (out of Singapore) between August 14 and 17, and noticed that the 17th will be Independence Day. Any thoughts on how that might impact the days I am considering as far as venues being open, or anything else like lodging / transportation?

Also, will girls be back from their Ramadan travels by then?

I've been to Jakarta twice, and may consider Phnom Penh as an alternative since I have never been there. Any input comparing the two places would be welcome as well.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Independence Day is a fun time but is not really a big deal, the MPs and bars should all be open. Lodging and transportation should also not be a problem, in fact the traffic may be lighter on the 17th itself.

Yes, the girls should all be back in Jakarta by August 14th, and many of them bring their younger sisters / friends from the home village, so you should find a fresh crop of young lovelies to choose from.

Hard for me to comment on the differences between Phnom Penh and the big Durian, since I was only in Phnom Penh once, for one evening 11 years ago. I had a session at the in-house MP in one of the old colonial-style hotels on the river. The mamasan at the front door brought me into the room where the girls were and told me that I had a choice of Cambodian, Vietnamese and Thai girls; I chose a 20-ish Cambodian girl and had a great time.

I have a different opinion about this year independence day after hari raya ramadhan. Since in kampong usually it's a big day celebration, many gathered on that day for parade, festival or games in their kampong. So I think there will be delayed for coming back to work to Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Liggi1;1440007]Is the Mercure Hotel Kota gf and good located to the nightlife?[/QUOTE]Liggi,

Which one there a few Mercure hotel in Jarkata go to Jarkata hotel thread and do some RTFF or go to Agoda. Com and find the Mecure you want all of them should be GF or just email hotel to confirm.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1440717]To Liggi

Which one there a few Mercure hotel in Jarkata go to Jarkata hotel thread and do some RTFF or go to Agoda. Com and find the Mecure you want all of them should be GF or just email hotel to confirm.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]As you stated Mercure Kota, this is excellently placed for nightlife activities. Stadium (5 min walk) , Crown (10 min walk) and Mangga Besar and its delights of Travel hotel is just round the corner. Malioboro and Classic are not far away too so you could say this is the ideal hotel for sampling the nightlife of Jakarta.

I will be visiting Jakarta for the 1st time in two weeks, will be staying at the Meridien. Could someone point me in the direction of what actions can be had in the afternoon. What places I will be able to hook up with a WL.

Thanks,

Angelo

Thankyou Haggis Man!

[QUOTE=Angelo Per; 1440908]I will be visiting Jakarta for the 1st time in two weeks, will be staying at the Meridien. Could someone point me in the direction of what actions can be had in the afternoon. What places I will be able to hook up with a WL.

Thanks,

Angelo[/QUOTE]Depending on which tower they put you in, I would suggest you look out your window. If you see Delta spa hop over the road and enjoy the place. Its decent, clean, an element of selection allowed, good fun place for the afternoon.

You can look for Fortune Spa to the left to Meridien. Meaning, when you look out of the entrance of Meridien, it will be on the left. 2 minutes walk. Ask for a selection. And remember, the service providers are nowhere as hot as the hostesses. Would have loved to bone those!

McM.

[QUOTE=Angelo Per; 1440908]I will be visiting Jakarta for the 1st time in two weeks, will be staying at the Meridien. Could someone point me in the direction of what actions can be had in the afternoon. What places I will be able to hook up with a WL.

Thanks,

Angelo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1441228]Depending on which tower they put you in, I would suggest you look out your window. If you see Delta spa hop over the road and enjoy the place. Its decent, clean, an element of selection allowed, good fun place for the afternoon.[/QUOTE]Was thinking of another spa. The other poster is correct, Fortune Spa near the Meridien.

[QUOTE=Angelo Per; 1440908]I will be visiting Jakarta for the 1st time in two weeks, will be staying at the Meridien. Could someone point me in the direction of what actions can be had in the afternoon. What places I will be able to hook up with a WL.

Thanks,

Angelo[/QUOTE]Just remember that its Ramadan time when you are in Jakarta and its quite likely that most of the places including Fortune is closed. Check and better to delay your plans till August 15 or so if possible in my opinion. Me, I try best to avoid Jakarta during the fasting season.

Maybe locals can help you on this one.

McM

Last year Fortune was usually open during Ramadan. At least it was at Grand Wijaya. That said, it was the only place open in Grand Wijaya. Every other place was closed.

[QUOTE=Pikefish;1441327]Last year Fortune was usually open during Ramadan. At least it was at Grand Wijaya. That said, it was the only place open in Grand Wijaya. Every other place was closed.[/QUOTE]Remember a couple of years ago Fortune was being renovated so it could be a hotel to incorporate Ramadan activities and to allow it to stay open during this period.

[QUOTE=Haggis Man;1440852]As you stated Mercure Kota, this is excellently placed for nightlife activities. Stadium (5 min walk) , Crown (10 min walk) and Mangga Besar and its delights of Travel hotel is just round the corner. Malioboro and Classic are not far away too so you could say this is the ideal hotel for sampling the nightlife of Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Haggis Man,

That was the Mecure Resko at Mangga besar I stay there many time but it is a bit run down now, there are another one only 1 miles down the road at Hayum Wuruk near Malioboro is the Grand Mecure open last yr at Harmoni much nicer room around 75 USD a night.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1419426]Quite a few PRC to choose from at King's Cross Kelapa Gading at 1 million a shot.[/QUOTE]I went to KC last night around 8pm. Large choice to choose with around 50 locals and perhaps 10 PRC. The price for local is above 400k including room, the PRC will cost from 800k to 1, 1jt (for the younger ones) including room. My plan was to go for the PRC, however the girls weren't not much of my taste, they seemed not as stun as those in Maliaboro or Alexis. While having my drink, the mamasan for locals brought me this young girl who she said had been there for only 2 weeks. 19 whyear old Her look is quite ok, slim, straight legs, a solid 7 in my scale. I took her and I was absolutely right. She has a really good body, still smelling fresh from high school, medium but really firm breasts, tight p. (she told me she had only had sex with her ex bf for around 1 year before). And even though her service was just normal, still need improving given her only 2 weeks there, but it was offset by her good attitude, CBJ (which I insisted though she was ready for BBBJ) for a good 15m, then various positions until I finished on her breasts. Really GEF. Enjoyable.

Damage: 460k, including a drink; 100k tip.

Could visit her again.

i have visited perhaps all the big massage parlours in jakarta which have chinese therapists (massage and plus plus) such as maliaboro, sun city, alexis, illigals. while they can be good venue for the plus plus plus, the therapists' massage skills are just very mediocre and the prices are steep. so now i am looking for new, cheaper places to have chinese therapists (for good massage or massage plus, but no need plus plus plus). perhaps anyone here know about that and could let me know? appreciate it very much.

[quote=euremia;1441628]i have visited perhaps all the big massage parlours in jakarta which have chinese therapists (massage and plus plus) such as maliaboro, sun city, alexis, illigals. while they can be good venue for the plus plus plus, the therapists' massage skills are just very mediocre and the prices are steep. so now i am looking for new, cheaper places to have chinese therapists (for good massage or massage plus, but no need plus plus plus). perhaps anyone here know about that and could let me know? appreciate it very much.[/quote]i have always had a wonderful experience in the 5th floor at alexis. the prc girls used to give the helicopter massage and recently when i was there, it was renamed as silken touch or feather touch massage. my experience in the 7th floor with thai, uzbek, indo and turkish girls paled in comparison to the 5th floor prc girls. their massage, especially the tongue massage, is just amazing. and they finish it off with a wonderful bj and a fuck. 90 minutes of total pleasure.

hope you tried this place. though its around 2 million, i still believe its value for money.

[QUOTE=John Aldrich; 1441941]I have always had a wonderful experience in the 5th floor at Alexis. The PRC girls used to give the helicopter massage and recently when I was there, it was renamed as silken touch or feather touch massage. My experience in the 7th floor with Thai, Uzbek, Indo and Turkish girls paled in comparison to the 5th floor PRC girls. Their massage, especially the tongue massage, is just amazing. And they finish it off with a wonderful BJ and a fuck. 90 minutes of total pleasure.

Hope you tried this place. Though its around 2 million, I still believe its value for money.[/QUOTE]John,

I never try the Helicopter Massage before but there are so many Sauna in China offer different extrotic massage like the red rope massage, the girl use a red rope hang up side down from the ceiling giving you a BBBJ and Helicopter BJ and fire and ice BJ and FS for 100 USD only a hand full of place in China still have it is a lost art now.

Happyendings. In / tag / red-rope/&8206;

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel;1440474]My reaction to you was merely about the observation that VIP-room service was only provided by the old hags.[/QUOTE]No that is not what you said, because I never implied that.

However as you say the discussion is at an end, any reader who wishes to can go back on the thread to decide which of us had a clearer understanding of what is going on with the D's sexy dancers.

I remain sir, your faithful servant, etc, etc.

Well, it's nearly that time of year again. I'm wondering what to expect from the places in North Jakarta during Ramadan. I'm particularly interested in whether the places on Pengaran Jayakarta in the Kotah Indah Complex (LA Bar, Sari Ayu, etc.) are likely to be open, and if so, whether their hours will be reduced. But I also would be interested in information about the North Jakarta places generally, such as Classic, Travel, and so forth. I suspect the answer might vary a bit from year to year so I am most interested in what the situation was last year and / or what anyone has heard about what it likely will be this year.

[QUOTE=LA Guy 5;1442753]I'm particularly interested in whether the places on Pengaran Jayakarta in the Kotah Indah Complex (LA Bar, Sari Ayu, etc.) are likely to be open[/QUOTE]All of the Kota Indah places will shut down on the 7th, so the 6th will be your last chance there until after Idul Fitri.

[QUOTE=LA Guy 5;1442753]Well, it's nearly that time of year again. I'm wondering what to expect from the places in North Jakarta during Ramadan. I'm particularly interested in whether the places on Pengaran Jayakarta in the Kotah Indah Complex (LA Bar, Sari Ayu, etc.) are likely to be open, and if so, whether their hours will be reduced. But I also would be interested in information about the North Jakarta places generally, such as Classic, Travel, and so forth. I suspect the answer might vary a bit from year to year so I am most interested in what the situation was last year and / or what anyone has heard about what it likely will be this year.[/QUOTE]Was at Malio yesterday and sign said it was closed 8th. 9th and 10th.

Haven't seen any signs at Classic, Stadium, Kimgs X etc.

I'll be staying at the Shangri-La in Jakarta in September and I would like to bring a girl back to my hotel. Can anyone recommend a good place to get them and bring them back? I want a good-looking girl who gives good service and makes a good impression. I don't mind paying up a bit. I would rather not use an escort service, but would like to go and see the girl first before I take her home.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1443215]I'll be staying at the Shangri-La in Jakarta in September and I would like to bring a girl back to my hotel. Can anyone recommend a good place to get them and bring them back? I want a good-looking girl who gives good service and makes a good impression. I don't mind paying up a bit. I would rather not use an escort service, but would like to go and see the girl first before I take her home.[/QUOTE]If you are staying at the Shangri-La, you are very far away from everything especially Bats. It will be difficult.

PB

If you are staying at the Shangri-La in September, it will be more difficult not to get laid than to get laid.

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1442874]Was at Malio yesterday and sign said it was closed 8th. 9th and 10th.

Haven't seen any signs at Classic, Stadium, Kimgs X etc.[/QUOTE]Stadium will reopen August 10th. They are usually one of the first to get going again.

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1443276]If you are staying at the Shangri-La, you are very far away from everything especially Bats. It will be difficult.

PB[/QUOTE]I thought BATS was in the Shangri-La Hotel.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1443428]I thought BATS was in the Shangri-La Hotel.[/QUOTE]It is. But they now move it out during Ramadan and I don't they will have time to move it back to Shangri La by September. It's a damn shame, I know.

[QUOTE=Primo Bolan; 1443276]If you are staying at the Shangri-La, you are very far away from everything especially Bats. It will be difficult.

PB[/QUOTE]To Primo,

You mean everything is far away except for BATS that is in the hotel, but Shangri-La is central Jarkata you can take taxi to Blok M or Kota for 30k or less not that bad.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Canyon;1443428]I thought BATS was in the Shangri-La Hotel.[/QUOTE]Just curious, but if you already knew that then why did you even ask your original question?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1443650]Just curious, but if you already knew that then why did you even ask your original question?[/QUOTE]Hahahha! Very Smooth. Bro Smoothy.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1443521]To Primo,

You mean everything is far away except for BATS that is in the hotel, but Shangri-La is central Jarkata you can take taxi to Blok M or Kota for 30k or less not that bad.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie, you are very funny. You must be a comedian!

[QUOTE=Canyon;1443215]I'll be staying at the Shangri-La in Jakarta in September and I would like to bring a girl back to my hotel. Can anyone recommend a good place to get them and bring them back? I want a good-looking girl who gives good service and makes a good impression. I don't mind paying up a bit. I would rather not use an escort service, but would like to go and see the girl first before I take her home.[/QUOTE]Fcuk me pink, you're a senior member and you can't even be arsed to do something as basic as RTFF! You're staying in a five-star hotel in the heart of Central Jakarta a five-star hotel no less that has one of the most famous pick up joints in Jakarta in its basement and you ask if there's any chance you'll get a leg over with a good looking bird.

No mate, if you're as slow on the uptake as you appear to be in your question it's perhaps best if you just order a mug of hot chocolate from room service and go to bed at 9 pm. As it might not be safe for you to be let out on your own.

i am flying to singapore on 3rd of august and i have a female friend who is encouraging me to visit her in jakarta. she tells me that it is ramadan so i am not that keen. when in jakarta i usually visit blok m and tried hotel melawati for the first time last visit. from what i have read i get the feeling that many / most things will be open until midnight, i am an old fart so this suits me. hotels will be cheaper as peeps head out of jakarta, what ladies are available will be keener due to lack of business. may i have the opinion of the board please?

Hi all,

Just to begin. I have posted a report in the Cambodia section and a couple of shorts in the Thailand section to contribute something. I'm no leech. But I would really appreciate a brief overview of the P4P scene in Jakarta and Bandung as I'll be in these locations for a few days work soon and would like to score a few local cuties. I'm familiar with the Thai and Cambodian scenes but reading the Indonesia forum and around the web, it seems a bit different and not so straight forward (?)

So the questions:.

What are the options for a guy in Jakarta and Bandung? Maasage, disco only?

Where are the areas for P4P located?

What prices should I be paying? Bearing in mind I'm a new tourist, They'll all know that I'm clueless and I speak ZERO indonesian!

I'm just trying to get a rough picture of the situation in those places. If anyone can help, I look forward to your posts.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Amator; 1443772]Hi all,

Just to begin. I have posted a report in the Cambodia section and a couple of shorts in the Thailand section to contribute something. I'm no leech. But I would really appreciate a brief overview of the P4P scene in Jakarta and Bandung as I'll be in these locations for a few days work soon and would like to score a few local cuties. I'm familiar with the Thai and Cambodian scenes but reading the Indonesia forum and around the web, it seems a bit different and not so straight forward (?)

So the questions:.

What are the options for a guy in Jakarta and Bandung? Maasage, disco only?

Where are the areas for P4P located?

What prices should I be paying? Bearing in mind I'm a new tourist, They'll all know that I'm clueless and I speak ZERO indonesian!

I'm just trying to get a rough picture of the situation in those places. If anyone can help, I look forward to your posts.

Thanks[/QUOTE]There is a search feature at the top as well as reports that date back years. Read those BEFORE posting questions. When you post a question ask specific details not just a broad general questions. If you have a SPECIFIC question you can also PM me and will be glad to help.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1443694]Fcuk me pink, you're a senior member and you can't even be arsed to do something as basic as RTFF! You're staying in a five-star hotel in the heart of Central Jakarta a five-star hotel no less that has one of the most famous pick up joints in Jakarta in its basement and you ask if there's any chance you'll get a leg over with a good looking bird.

No mate, if you're as slow on the uptake as you appear to be in your question it's perhaps best if you just order a mug of hot chocolate from room service and go to bed at 9 pm. As it might not be safe for you to be let out on your own.[/QUOTE]Hilo,

You need to calm down before you have a heart attack. Perhaps your doctor can prescribe some tranquilizers for you.

[quote=newbiee;1443735]i am flying to singapore on 3rd of august and i have a female friend who is encouraging me to visit her in jakarta. she tells me that it is ramadan so i am not that keen. when in jakarta i usually visit blok m and tried hotel melawai for the first time last visit. from what i have read i get the feeling that many / most things will be open until midnight, i am an old fart so this suits me. hotels will be cheaper as peeps head out of jakarta, what ladies are available will be keener due to lack of business. may i have the opinion of the board please?[/quote]1) if a female friend is encouraging you to visit her in jakarta during ramadan, then what's the problem? the main effect of ramadan is that most mongering places will be closed until august 12th / 13th / 14th onwards, but that shouldn't matter to you. you've already got a girl.

2) yes, the night club scene will be very quiet, but so what? the restaurants will still be open, so take your young lovely out for a long leisurely dinner, then go back to your hotel room and have sex for several hours. sounds good to me!

if you are looking for additional female sex partners in addition to your female friend, then your options will be severely limited until after august 12/13/14. but maybe your female friend has other friends that she could hook you up with, either as a three-some or without your friend. doesn't hurt to ask.

[QUOTE=Amator; 1443772]Hi all,

Just to begin. I have posted a report in the Cambodia section and a couple of shorts in the Thailand section to contribute something. I'm no leech. But I would really appreciate a brief overview of the P4P scene in Jakarta and Bandung as I'll be in these locations for a few days work soon and would like to score a few local cuties. I'm familiar with the Thai and Cambodian scenes but reading the Indonesia forum and around the web, it seems a bit different and not so straight forward (?)

So the questions:.

What are the options for a guy in Jakarta and Bandung? Maasage, disco only?

Where are the areas for P4P located?

What prices should I be paying? Bearing in mind I'm a new tourist, They'll all know that I'm clueless and I speak ZERO indonesian!

I'm just trying to get a rough picture of the situation in those places. If anyone can help, I look forward to your posts.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Sorry, but your best bet is to RTFF, especially for Bandung as that board is not that long.

For Jakarta, browse through the "Reports of Distinction" section and follow the links to useful reports. For example, someone recently recommended a link to my recent post:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1433286&viewfull=1#post1433286[/url]

Good luck with your reading

[QUOTE=Menteng;1443687]Fast Eddie, you are very funny. You must be a comedian![/QUOTE]To Menteng

Why is this funny you better expain yourself instead of just post a one liner and go away, too many Joker like you don't have any good report or any thing to say.

Fast Eddie 48

[quote=newbiee;1443735]i am flying to singapore on 3rd of august and i have a female friend who is encouraging me to visit her in jakarta. she tells me that it is ramadan so i am not that keen. when in jakarta i usually visit blok m and tried hotel melawati for the first time last visit. from what i have read i get the feeling that many / most things will be open until midnight, i am an old fart so this suits me. hotels will be cheaper as peeps head out of jakarta, what ladies are available will be keener due to lack of business. may i have the opinion of the board please?[/quote]sounds like you're sorted. since we'll probably get lots of these "what's jakarta like in ramadhan?" questions, as we do every year, i'll do a bit of a public service announcement:

1) hotel bars are usually not required to close, but may operate under tighter regulation. for example, they may close a bit earlier than usual.

2) brothels in kota will usually be shut until about one week after idul fitri.

3) blok m clubs may or may not be open, although they probably will be. as with point one, they may shut earlier than usual.

4) some warung and restaurants will be shut during the day, but many will be open.

5) some girls will refrain from having sex during daylight hours.

6) freelancers will still be looking for clients, but may adopt alternative marketing methods (such as ringing up old clients and telling them how much they miss them).

7) the whole city will become deathly quiet in the week before and up to and following idul fitri, with large numbers of girls and other useful members of society returning to their rural homelands.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1443908]To Menteng

Why is this funny you better expain yourself instead of just post a one liner and go away, too many Joker like you don't have any good report or any thing to say.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]If you didn't understand the joke by Primo Bolan, then you are funny. Of course I could have written that you are stupid, but I didn't want to hurt your feelings!

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1444044]Sounds like you're sorted. Since we'll probably get lots of these "What's Jakarta like in Ramadhan?" questions, as we do every year, I'll do a bit of a public service announcement:[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info package Gonzo! I will be in Jakarta 26. 7-30. 7 before my trip to Bali and I will post my Jakarta findings after the trip.

Meanwhile if anyone has info during Ramadan time about the opening hours of venues like Alexis, Malioboro, Classic, BATS, CJ's, Blok M bars etc. Please do not hesitate to share the info on the forum.

Cheers,

Kepp

But the girl is lesser, and they wear more conservative.

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1444146]Thanks for the info package Gonzo! I will be in Jakarta 26. 7-30. 7 before my trip to Bali and I will post my Jakarta findings after the trip.

Meanwhile if anyone has info during Ramadan time about the opening hours of venues like Alexis, Malioboro, Classic, BATS, CJ's, Blok M bars etc. Please do not hesitate to share the info on the forum.

Cheers,

Kepp[/QUOTE]Kepp,

Most kota places provided they will come under the name of a hotel, like alexis or malioboro will be open, however it depends how the area of kota has closed it deals with the local mafia be it the preman from Ambon or the cops. So kemang can be subject of the FPI mafia raids as kota is prone to the police raids. Central Jakarta area is worry free pretty much controlled by police who is not really fuzzy but caution is still required. Some stand alone bars and restaurants like Lanna Thai & Hazara are open and attract a good foreigner crowd thirsty for alcohol and fun.

Ramadan comming limits considerably the choices for fun in Jakarta.

Earlier this years, I met with 3 girls (all from online sites) within 1 day, and all ended with BJ.

Met with the 1st girl in a hotel on Sudirman. Evening. She was a fashion model, pretty face, great body with firm breasts. Spent 3 hours with her there, lot of kisses and finished with BJ and CIM (she didn't want to have a FS, which didn't bother me much since sometimes I enjoy a BJ more than FS). She must then leave to mall Plaza Indonesia since her bf was waiting to pick up her there. Now they just got married. I left too.

Early next morning, went to pick up 2nd girl at her home in Sunter, brought her back to the same hotel (I still kept the key from previous night) and had breakfast with her there. Then went up to room, ended with another BJ, finished on her breasts.

Then it was time to check out. I brought her to mall Kelapa Gading to meet with some of her friends there for a while. Then I again left her and her friends there to come to meet with the 3rd girl at the same mall. We went to have lunch, she wanted to see the movie but no seats left. So we walked around for a while. Then I decided to go home, saying we will meet again next time. But when I got to my car in the park, I called her to come to my car, and as soon as she came, we sit inside, and she gave me a really good BBBJ until CIM and shawllow. I left 15m afterwards.

So 1 day. 3 girls (they are all normal girls work as modelling and in offices; the first 2 girls are Chinese, the 3rd is local; quite good looking) , all met for the first time. 3 BJs. Jakarta fun never ends.

[QUOTE=Euremia; 1444436]Ramadan comming limits considerably the choices for fun in Jakarta.

Earlier this years, I met with 3 girls (all from online sites) within 1 day, and all ended with BJ.

Met with the 1st girl in a hotel on Sudirman. Evening. She was a fashion model, pretty face, great body with firm breasts. Spent 3 hours with her there, lot of kisses and finished with BJ and CIM (she didn't want to have a FS, which didn't bother me much since sometimes I enjoy a BJ more than FS). She must then leave to mall Plaza Indonesia since her bf was waiting to pick up her there. Now they just got married. I left too.

Early next morning, went to pick up 2nd girl at her home in Sunter, brought her back to the same hotel (I still kept the key from previous night) and had breakfast with her there. Then went up to room, ended with another BJ, finished on her breasts.

Then it was time to check out. I brought her to mall Kelapa Gading to meet with some of her friends there for a while. Then I again left her and her friends there to come to meet with the 3rd girl at the same mall. We went to have lunch, she wanted to see the movie but no seats left. So we walked around for a while. Then I decided to go home, saying we will meet again next time. But when I got to my car in the park, I called her to come to my car, and as soon as she came, we sit inside, and she gave me a really good BBBJ until CIM and shawllow. I left 15m afterwards.

So 1 day. 3 girls (they are all normal girls work as modelling and in offices; the first 2 girls are Chinese, the 3rd is local; quite good looking) , all met for the first time. 3 BJs. Jakarta fun never ends.[/QUOTE]Great report!

- don't lose the contact info for the first girl; although she's now married, she may still be available for play.

- nice to read a story about some in-car action in a car park

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1444591]Great report!

- don't lose the contact info for the first girl; although she's now married, she may still be available for play.

- nice to read a story about some in-car action in a car park[/QUOTE]Someone often parked in mall Kelapa Gading would know that the parking floors there are not as bright as those in other malls, even during daytime.

Plus that my car window glass has a bit darker stickers, so it was not too risky to have some actions inside, even with cars moving in and out, and some security guys standing not too far from there.

I still keep contact with the fashion model. She is a really open girl, sharing with me lot of her family stories. But she is pregnant now and I don't have any further plan with her.

[quote=mighty spearsman;1444591]- nice to read a story about some in-car action in a car park[/quote]in-car action is certainly something that is often overlooked here, even though it can provide great entertainment, an element of excitement and is remarkably cheap.

the best of all is getting a blowjob while you're actually driving. oh calm down health and safety brigade, have you seen the traffic in jakarta? you could safely read "war and peace" in the original russian while driving in jakarta's rush hour, the speed rarely gets above walking pace.

the key consideration is the model of car. while i thoroughly enjoyed sweeping down jalan sudirman fingering my passenger and her giving me a wank in a sleek merc a few years back, that was a one-off. generally what you need is a nice anonymous people carrier, they're everywhere in jakarta and nobody gives them a second look. coming as they do with tinted glass and curtains for the windows (i'm sure indonesian car sellers know their market) and being relatively high off the ground they're perfect.

if you don't fancy a bj on the move, or fancy something a bit more than just a bj then you need to find somewhere discreet to park. this of course is tricky for the simple reason that nowhere in jakarta is free of people 24 hours of the day. no matter where you drive, no matter what time of the day or night there always seems to be someone standing, crouching, lying, sitting or pushing some wheeled contraption within 50 feet of you.

paradoxically this works. do not be tempted to drive into some darkened alleyway or suburban street. that's a dead giveaway and immediately attracts attention. what you do is you go to the edge of some busy well-lit area full of people sitting around a food stall or whatever. park your car near some others, turn off the lights and engine and wait a little bit. no one will notice you, you will in effect be hiding in plain sight. then quietly move to the back of the car, if you've got one of the people carriers you will have already closed the curtains and turned around the middle seats. that's where she sits, you sit at the back watching out the front for any trouble approaching. then you just get on with it, after fifteen, twenty minutes you've got what you wanted, you get fixed up and use the packet of baby-wipes which you strategically keep in your glove box to clear everything up.

job's done, hop back into the driver's seat scoot back to where you picked your good lady up (or slip her something for a taxi if you're not going that way) and hand her 250 000 or 300,000 whatever you think suitable and off home you go. if your better half (or driver) uses the car be sure to stop along the way home to check everything's ok. wipe down seats and surfaces, fix back the seats into normal position, open the curtains. and check all around for those damned give-aways; foot prints and big, thick, long black hairs that don't belong to your missus or your driver.

great sport and all accomplished on the drive home from work, maximum extra on to the journey half an hour."macet aja lah" the great excuse that covers a multitude of sins.

Just about to jump on the plane dfor my first trip to Jakarta. Yeh, I know it's Ramadan, but I'm sure there will be fun to find. Will report as I go along as long as I get some internet access. Staying at the Swizz Bel Managa Besar in Nth Jakarta. If anyone is up for a beer or three just shout.

The flight was a nightmare, sandwiched between two fat guys, so I haven't really slept at all. However, arrived in Jka this morning and went for my first adventure.

Found Classic Hotel no problem and went to the spa in the basement level, as was only 11:30 and thought was best bet for some action. Had a nice hot bath, a short cold one, and a shower. Then get led to the spa area. One girl showed me through to a room and I had an excellent massage. I think I might have fallen asleep a couple of times, but not when she was walking on my back.

I'd booked a two girl massage, but it seemed only one was available.

She asked me if I would like a HJ, but said it would be an additional 300k. I had assumed it was in the price, and I'm not paying 300k for a HJ when they can be cheaper than that back home. I made some excuses about jet lag and left.

The girl was a lot of fun. We had a bit of a laugh. And I was an awesome couple of hours. Sadly though. I didn't get any of what I had gone for. On the way out the reception area had filled up and there were tons of girls there. I can't wait to go out tonight.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1444591]Great report!

- nice to read a story about some in-car action in a car park[/QUOTE]Apart from in-car action, perhaps in-Karaoke room actions worth mentioning too.

Here I refer to the normal, family Karaoke which are mostly located inside a shopping malls (Gajah Mada, Pluit, Sarinah.) and not the one in one-stop entertainment establishments.

I did this a few times last years, went with the girls (all of them were normal girls since I don't like the working girls) to have 1 single room for Karaoke, often for 1h. Then the best part, all ended with with BJ and CIM (seem they had no other options but CIM. Then left. I felt this experience even more thrilling than in-car actions since the door was not locked and someone could just open and come in any time. The most interesting one was with a Chinese girl in the family Karaoke room in Kelapa Gading where she gave the BJ while I stood just next to the door to watch out if anyone was coming. She finished it with a CIM while looking up at me. Fantastic.

So, after a bad start this morning at the Classic Hotel Spa, I ventured back this evening to check out the 3rd floor bar.

After reading the forums I realised it may be beneficial to go early, so went around 7pm. Loads of girls around the edge of the room, some average, others less than average, and a few real hotties too. Plenty of punters but not packed and I easily got a table.

Sat down and got a beer and mamasan suddenly sat a girl next to me. Jackpot. She was the hottest chick in there. Limited english but enough to have a laugh with. 22 years old, body to die for. After a while she asked if I wanted to play billiards, or maybe get a room. Mamasan popped over and asked if I wanted another girl, so I told her to get her friend.

Prices have gone up compared with previous posts. Now 460k for 2 girls. Like I care.

Prices include room for 1hour and a fuck from each girl. Her friend wasn't that hot, and obviously new to the job so wasn[t sure what to do. Anyhow, we had a good laugh, but ended up with a great fuck with lots of kissing (didn't expect that) with the first girl. We were obviously hitting it off, so maybe I got lucky and she put some extra effort in. Finished with her riding me like a champ.

Total cost:

Drinks for me, the girls, and a pack of ciggies. 200k (haha I think they undercharged me)

Room and what went with it: 460k.

Tips 100k each girl.

I told the first girl I'll see her again. Will have her to myself next time. She is totally smoking.

Great first night in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Pez612;1445037]Just about to jump on the plane dfor my first trip to Jakarta. Yeh, I know it's Ramadan, but I'm sure there will be fun to find. Will report as I go along as long as I get some internet access. Staying at the Swizz Bel Managa Besar in Nth Jakarta. If anyone is up for a beer or three just shout.[/QUOTE]

Although the mongering scene is reduced significantly during the fasting month of Ramadan, there are still many opportunities available. You just have to look harder.

I've had some great sessions during past Ramadans, even during daylight hours, at such places as Malioboro, Fortune, in malls, with girls from Maribaya Spa who rented a room at Hotel Melawai, at the lowest-of-low-end spas in Kali Jodo, and elsewhere.

Also, don't forget Jakarta After Dark 2. His ads can be found in the classified section, most recently around page 3. If anyone knows where the action is during Ramadan, it's him. And remember, the Chinese who live in Jakarta are by and large Christian not Muslim, so there's a Chinese mongering scene that's active but hidden, and which JAD can help you find.

Good luck to Pez612 and all!

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1425051]What bugs me is that you guys always receive tons of interests and emails from young and sexy Jakarta girls on DIA and Indo cupid or Tagged and Badoo. I also have accounts on DIA and Indo cupid (gold) and Tagged and Badoo but I always receive only messages from old, ugly and overweight women living in Kalimantan, Irian Jaya or Medan or any far flung corner. Even I state specifically that I am not interested in Old fat mamas with kids.

Maybe the reason is that I am 39 years old and perhaps you guys are all in your early twenties and handsome like Brad Pitt in his best years. That of course would explain a lot...[/QUOTE]Bule,

I am Asian. I am Malaysian. I am rather young, but I also receive pity responses on DIA. You are not alone. LOL.

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1436463]The first two weeks were pretty bad, I had to get into it again I guess. I only had 3 girls and felt like a kid in the candystore who sees all the candy and wants it but cannot get it because it is stacked too high.

But then suddenly the tide changed, I met an insatiable girl and after that I was wearing a big grin on my face 24/7 and suddenly I got approached by more girls then I could handle in the malls. The last 3 weeks I got 3 girls from a mall (only because I have too many lined up from Dateinasia and Cupid but there are still some Mall girls in my phone I yet have to arrange a date with)

The dating sites (Dateinasia and Indonesiancupid) also started to deliver and because I felt really happy and comfortable I could joke and be funny with the dates from there and make them comfortable. The result was that 9 out of 10 girls went home with me on the first date...[/QUOTE]Oh great news. Finally your luck comes. I am glad to hear this. You are my hero. Awaiting your next fr.

In regards for mall hunting.

How much do the locals pay?

How do I know I need to pay?

Some shopping centers are the gethering point of working lady, such as atrium & blok m.

I know currently locals pay 500k for lt. 200k for st. Some pays 300k up to negotiation result. This is "cewek bisyar" (cewek bisyar=cewek bisa bayar=payable girl)

Indonesia short time for outside working lady is 1-3 hours. For in house lady is within 1 hour. The difference is outside lady could choose customer, but in house cannot. For Hotel Travel which they used to collect 300k / st, half for girls, half for house. Now is 325k / st according to my friends.

For some taxi fare "ongkos taxi" lady, which is semi-pro. They just need 300k lt for "ongkos taxi".

Some are freebies, the legendary "cewek bispak" (cewek bispak=cewek bisa pakai=usable girl)

But am I right? I wonder because I am not local while I live in nearby country and speak bahasa.

Anyone sheds some light?

Took a walk from my hotel today. Just cut from Swiss Bel, past Fashion Hotel, and find Orchardz Hotel. It's a 5 min walk.

Spa is on level 3 (that's pressing '3' in the lift). Reported elsewhere as floor 2 or 6, which isn't the case.

Paid 2, 200 for massage in VIP room. You can pay either 2k or 2. 5k for other room, but I just took the one in the middle. Got shown the facilities, which I decided not to bother with, and then shown to waiting area. At desk they asked me what number girl I wanted. As you can't view I just asked for a slim one.

Waited 10 mins then was shown to room. Had shower and a great massage. Girl was just my type. Slim but with some curves. Stunning body and face quite pretty. Massage was great. She asked me what else I wanted and I went for FS, which was only 3k. Great price! She went on top for a while, we got into it, and then I flipped her over towards the end. Wasn't the best I'd had, but she wasn't just lying there either. Looking at her hot body in the mirrors was awesome.

Cons: Room was a bit cold. Had to wait 15 mins for girl to turn up. Not the most luxurious of spas, but no slum either.

Pros: So much better than my experience at Classic Hotel Spa yesterday. All staff were really friendly.

All up:

Room 2,200.

FS: 3,000.

Tip: 1,000.

What I really liked was that she gave me a full wash afterwards in the tub. And when I gave her the tip she was over the moon and thanked me a lot for it. She then said hope to see you tomorrow with a nice smile. I like to tip, and it's nice when it's appreciated.

Will I go back? Oh yes.

[QUOTE=Pez612; 1445615]Took a walk from my hotel today. Just cut from Swiss Bel, past Fashion Hotel, and find Orchardz Hotel. It's a 5 min walk.

Spa is on level 3 (that's pressing '3' in the lift). Reported elsewhere as floor 2 or 6, which isn't the case.

Paid 2, 200 for massage in VIP room. You can pay either 2k or 2. 5k for other room, but I just took the one in the middle. Got shown the facilities, which I decided not to bother with, and then shown to waiting area. At desk they asked me what number girl I wanted. As you can't view I just asked for a slim one...[/QUOTE]I think your prices may be wrong?

1 too many 0, s

Wouldn't think you would be paying Alexis Prices at Orchardz.

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1436463]The dating sites also started to deliver and because I felt really happy and comfortable I could joke and be funny with the dates from there and make them comfortable. The result was that 9 out of 10 girls went home with me on the first date.

I am a sucker for freebees (always been) and I always tell the girls I meet and who want to come with me that they cannot come for the money, they don't seem to care. It really does help that I speak fluent bahasa. It also helps that I keep my body in perfect shape, girls don't like to admit it but they really appreciate guys who are in shape. Many people say Indonesian girls don't care about the physical part of a guy and that is partly true, but it surely does help to land a girl.[/QUOTE]I agree that the deliverable from dating sites can be great. For the last 2 years in Jakarta I have had fun with not fewer than 50 girls from there (FS or at least BJs; many done at the first date while only a few girls need to wait until a 3rd date to be scored). And I must say that I am quite selective, almost all of my dates were with young, normal, office girls, Chinese, some above 30, divorced women as well but they were all good looking. I usually brought them to the malls first before heading to some places (normally hotels since I don't bring girls home). Some girls also brought me to their places which is a great way to cut hotel costs.

For most of the girls I only met 1-2 times, though I kept longer contacts with some good ones. The longest was 5 months with 1 Chinese girl.

Last month I was a bit active, so I met with 5 girls. 1 ended up with FS at the 1st date. 2 with FS at 2nd date. The other 2 sure will do it at 3rd date.

Those were only the girls from dating sites and apart from girls in massage parlors and other popular entertainment places where I visit every week. And besides a regular girlfriend with whom I meet at least 2-3 times per week for the last 2 years.

Still I don't know whether I can be considered active in this area?

Hey guys,

I read quite a couple reviews about taking two or even more girls to the room.

Will these girls also perform some girl on girl action, or will they only play around with the guy?

Would love to see them eating each others pussies, while I work on them.

Thanks for your answers

[QUOTE=Danielson111; 1445943]Hey guys,

I read quite a couple reviews about taking two or even more girls to the room.

Will these girls also perform some girl on girl action, or will they only play around with the guy?

Would love to see them eating each others pussies, while I work on them.

Thanks for your answers[/QUOTE]Only one post. Who are you? Do you even live in Indonesia?

RTFF!

I have to say I was a bit worried that it would become very quiet in my room during Ramadhan but my fears were (thus far) unfounded. For some Ramadhan started the 7th, others started out on the 8th and again others started their fasting on the 9th.

This first week of Ramadhan I scored 5 new girls and I met 1 of my old regulars. All of the new girls slept with me (before 6 pm).2 of them I met in my regular mall, and 3 were from online dating sites (2 from Badoo this time and one from DIA). I must say 2 of the girls were christian so that of course makes a bit of a difference but also the muslim girls hardly mentioned Ramadhan (although one told me in my room she would break the fasting even it was not yet 6 pm).

So it is just as easy to get chicks during ramadhan then it is after or before Ramadhan, I even sense they are a bit more aggressive and wild maybe because they are bored or have not been eating all day.

[QUOTE=Danielson111;1445943]Will these girls also perform some girl on girl action, or will they only play around with the guy?[/QUOTE]One of them will channel surf and play with her mobile phone while smoking Marlboro Putih or Sampoerna Mild, until her friend feels that it's her turn to shoulder some of the load, at which point they will exchange roles.

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1446336]I have to say I was a bit worried that it would become very quiet in my room during Ramadhan but my fears were (thus far) unfounded. For some Ramadhan started the 7th, others started out on the 8th and again others started their fasting on the 9th.

This first week of Ramadhan I scored 5 new girls and I met 1 of my old regulars. All of the new girls slept with me (before 6 pm).2 of them I met in my regular mall, and 3 were from online dating sites (2 from Badoo this time and one from DIA). I must say 2 of the girls were christian so that of course makes a bit of a difference but also the muslim girls hardly mentioned Ramadhan (although one told me in my room she would break the fasting even it was not yet 6 pm).

So it is just as easy to get chicks during ramadhan then it is after or before Ramadhan, I even sense they are a bit more aggressive and wild maybe because they are bored or have not been eating all day.[/QUOTE]Bro,

You created miracle again.

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1446336]I have to say I was a bit worried that it would become very quiet in my room during Ramadhan but my fears were (thus far) unfounded. For some Ramadhan started the 7th, others started out on the 8th and again others started their fasting on the 9th.

This first week of Ramadhan I scored 5 new girls and I met 1 of my old regulars. All of the new girls slept with me (before 6 pm).2 of them I met in my regular mall, and 3 were from online dating sites (2 from Badoo this time and one from DIA). I must say 2 of the girls were christian so that of course makes a bit of a difference but also the muslim girls hardly mentioned Ramadhan (although one told me in my room she would break the fasting even it was not yet 6 pm).

So it is just as easy to get chicks during ramadhan then it is after or before Ramadhan, I even sense they are a bit more aggressive and wild maybe because they are bored or have not been eating all day.[/QUOTE]Bro,

Another thing is all 5 are freebies?

[QUOTE=SmallBird; 1446520]Bro,

Another thing is all 5 are freebies?[/QUOTE]In fear of sounding like an arrogant prick (I am really not) I never pay for play. Sometimes I give a girl 100.000 for taxi money, but even that rarely happens. If I meet a girl in a mall for the first time, I never take her home right away. It always goes like we exchange bb pin or whatsapp. After that I talk to her through whatsapp or whatever and build a bit of a connection. Then make an appointment to meet again (sometimes they come straight to my place) but mostly we meet in a cafe. There I pay of course for all the drinks etc and after that the girl comes with me.

If I invite my squeeze to a cafe I pick up the tab, mostly around 300.000 rupia or so for the both of us, so technically this might not count as a freebee. Some girls want to be taken to the movies (around 80.000 for one ticket in Kuningan City mall) and after that they want to see my place, so again this might not count as a freebee because I am of course the one who pays the movie. Again others want to take dinner with you not at the "Pinggir jalan" of course so that means dinner in a nice place at a mall which will typically cost around 200.000 rupia or more.

But if you meet them the second time they will mostly straight go to your place without any money involved so that will then be a real freebee.

Actually I don't care to pick up the tab in a cafe, cinema or restaurant because I think that's just natural, even if I pay for dinner, drinks or movie I still count it as a freebee.

Same thing with the girls I meet on internet, we exchange pin or whatsapp and go from there.

The thing is you must be a fun guy to talk to and don't worry most Indonesian girls really love bad boys. I always tell them I have many girls and I sleep with many girls (because they always ask, do you have many girls?) It only makes them more interested in you, even the ones that (pretend they) only want a serious guy.

When you meet them you got to take the lead from the first second, just be confident and joke to her and show her you are not a boring shy guy. Just come close to her very fast, they love it believe me. The only thing you don't do is french kiss her in public or feel her up in public because she will run.

It's so increadibly easy, actually too easy after having had 20 or more girls this way I kinda feel I need a break, I want to go traveling to some remote places like I used to do when I was young.

[quote=euremia; 1445268]apart from in-car action, perhaps in-karaoke room actions worth mentioning too.

here i refer to the normal, family karaoke which are mostly located inside a shopping malls (gajah mada, pluit, sarinah.) and not the one in one-stop entertainment establishments.

i did this a few times last years, went with the girls (all of them were normal girls since i don't like the working girls) to have 1 single room for karaoke, often for 1h. then the best part, all ended with with bj and cim (seem they had no other options but cim. then left. i felt this experience even more thrilling than in-car actions since the door was not locked and someone could just open and come in any time. the most interesting one was with a chinese girl in the family karaoke room in kelapa gading where she gave the bj while i stood just next to the door to watch out if anyone was coming. she finished it with a cim while looking up at me. fantastic.[/quote]this brings back fond memories to the "olden days" when i used to live in bandung. back in those days i was very short on cash and i used to stay in a very cheap rundown losmen somewhere near the bemo terminal. my room (fly pit) was located next to the kitchen (hot as hell because they were always cooking there) but of course the price came with a discount. there was no wall between my room and the kitchen it was just separated by a curtain (with a lot of holes in it).

one morning i was making love with a gorgeous sudanese girl while one of the losmen girls was cooking, and of course the girl could hear all our action. then my eyes moved to the curtain and i could saw a shadow and an eye peeking through one of the holes, turned out the girl had abandoned her cooking and was now watching us. i told the girl about this (was not scared she would run of because she had a very wild streak also) and she loved it. when it was my time i got my cock out and pointed it to the curtain and gave it and the girl standing behind it (who was too slow to react) a good shower.

we were actually thinking about inviting her to join but by that time she had ran off leaving her cooking.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1446102]Only one post. Who are you? Do you even live in Indonesia?

RTFF![/QUOTE]True I am new to ISG. And no I don't live in Indonesia.

Do you have to live here to use an international forum? Wasn't aware.

Are you the forum police? If you don't want to answer a simple question from a newbie, just leave it. Don't have to comment everything, to get the numbers of your post higher up!

[QUOTE=JustABule;1446336]So it is just as easy to get chicks during ramadhan then it is after or before Ramadhan[/QUOTE]I don't agree with that and think it's misleading for guys considering visiting Jakarta during Ramadhan. It's not as easy to get chicks during Ramadhan. You can still get them, but it's not as easy. If your sole source of girls is dating sites and mall hunting then you won't notice as much difference as you will if you like going to the great variety of "massage" places and discos. But Ramadhan does hinder things, especially as it gets closer to idul fitri since the girls go home to their village and the city empties out.

Visiting Jakarta for the first time. Any info on great massages with plus-plus (HJ. Nothing much) would be appreciated.

Primarily looking for a great massage and HJ to finish it off.

I have my pm activated.

Gracias!

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1446625]In fear of sounding like an arrogant prick (I am really not) I never pay for play. Sometimes I give a girl 100. 000 for taxi money, but even that rarely happens. If I meet a girl in a mall for the first time, I never take her home right away. It always goes like we exchange bb pin or whatsapp. After that I talk to her through whatsapp or whatever and build a bit of a connection. Then make an appointment to meet again (sometimes they come straight to my place) but mostly we meet in a cafe. There I pay of course for all the drinks etc and after that the girl comes with me.

If I invite my squeeze to a cafe I pick up the tab, mostly around 300. 000 rupia or so for the both of us, so technically this might not count as a freebee. Some girls want to be taken to the movies (around 80. 000 for one ticket in Kuningan City mall) and after that they want to see my place, so again this might not count as a freebee because I am of course the one who pays the movie. Again others want to take dinner with you not at the "Pinggir jalan" of course so that means dinner in a nice place at a mall which will typically cost around 200. 000 rupia or more.

But if you meet them the second time they will mostly straight go to your place without any money involved so that will then be a real freebee.

Actually I don't care to pick up the tab in a cafe, cinema or restaurant because I think that's just natural, even if I pay for dinner, drinks or movie I still count it as a freebee.

Same thing with the girls I meet on internet, we exchange pin or whatsapp and go from there.

The thing is you must be a fun guy to talk to and don't worry most Indonesian girls really love bad boys. I always tell them I have many girls and I sleep with many girls (because they always ask, do you have many girls?) It only makes them more interested in you, even the ones that (pretend they) only want a serious guy.

When you meet them you got to take the lead from the first second, just be confident and joke to her and show her you are not a boring shy guy. Just come close to her very fast, they love it believe me. The only thing you don't do is french kiss her in public or feel her up in public because she will run.

It's so increadibly easy, actually too easy after having had 20 or more girls this way I kinda feel I need a break, I want to go traveling to some remote places like I used to do when I was young.[/QUOTE]Bro,

I did this kind of hunting activity few times. If the girl appears attractive / nice attitude in someway, I fall in love with her. For sure, even the girl said looking for serious relatioship doesn't actually like serious at all.

This makes me in a bad condition.

For sure, I don't want to really have a serious relationship with them but am open to everything.

Is it because I am still young? How do you control your emotion when communicate with girl? Being rejected? Being fall in love? Being pulled by girl that actually fall in love with you?

This questions might be silly. Unfortunately for me, it happens routinely. It makes me kind of uncomfortable.

[quote=justabule; 1446633]this brings back fond memories to the "olden days" when i used to live in bandung. back in those days i was very short on cash and i used to stay in a very cheap rundown losmen somewhere near the bemo terminal. my room (fly pit) was located next to the kitchen (hot as hell because they were always cooking there) but of course the price came with a discount. there was no wall between my room and the kitchen it was just separated by a curtain (with a lot of holes in it).

one morning i was making love with a gorgeous sudanese girl while one of the losmen girls was cooking, and of course the girl could hear all our action. then my eyes moved to the curtain and i could saw a shadow and an eye peeking through one of the holes, turned out the girl had abandoned her cooking and was now watching us. i told the girl about this (was not scared she would run of because she had a very wild streak also) and she loved it. when it was my time i got my cock out and pointed it to the curtain and gave it and the girl standing behind it (who was too slow to react) a good shower.

we were actually thinking about inviting her to join but by that time she had ran off leaving her cooking.[/quote]bro,

i once had such chance, but i let it go. i am not as daring as you. you are one of the heroes in this forum. too bad i just get understand with this such late.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1427830]<snip

Jackson, the auto correct sucks.

MD II[/QUOTE]I have just posted the suggestion in the title on 'Proposed Site Improvements':

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If you (or anyone else) agree with the suggestion, please don't be shy to support it. If there is a massive support Admin may do something about it.

From now on I will no longer make any layout edits in my posts. I'm fed up with the Facist Auto Correction.

Cheers,

Barri

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1446625]In fear of sounding like an arrogant prick (I am really not) I never pay for play. Sometimes I give a girl 100. 000 for taxi money, but even that rarely happens. If I meet a girl in a mall for the first time, I never take her home right away. It always goes like we exchange bb pin or whatsapp. After that I talk to her through whatsapp or whatever and build a bit of a connection. Then make an appointment to meet again (sometimes they come straight to my place) but mostly we meet in a cafe. There I pay of course for all the drinks etc and after that the girl comes with me.

If I invite my squeeze to a cafe I pick up the tab, mostly around 300. 000 rupia or so for the both of us, so technically this might not count as a freebee. Some girls want to be taken to the movies (around 80. 000 for one ticket in Kuningan City mall) and after that they want to see my place, so again this might not count as a freebee because I am of course the one who pays the movie. Again others want to take dinner with you not at the "Pinggir jalan" of course so that means dinner in a nice place at a mall which will typically cost around 200. 000 rupia or more.

It's so increadibly easy, actually too easy after having had 20 or more girls this way I kinda feel I need a break, I want to go traveling to some remote places like I used to do when I was young.[/QUOTE]This is also my method in Jakarta, since I've never paid for play (except in the entertainment places of course) though there are always expenses for restaurants, coffees or cinemas.

And though I am quite selective, I always have more potential girls than I could handle. They are all normal girls, and all are 7-8 in my scale if I am to score them. Quite a few of them were still virgin and couldn't have sex but could give all the other alternatives, including a 23 pretty girl who kept meeting me 5 months for that. But sometimes I also met girls who weren't not my cup of tea, and though I'd love to run, I still tried to be polite, invited them to drinks before making up some excuses to leave. Jakarta is sure one of the best places on earth for mongering.

[QUOTE=Euremia;1446900]I've never paid for play.[/QUOTE]I guess you consider your time not to be worth anything. It takes time to scour the internet dating sites and send message after message to a girl to get her to meet you. The reason I don't prefer the dating sites is that it is time consuming. I prefer just to go to the bar or massage place and pick out a girl. You always pay in some way, whether it's cash, your time, or emotionally.

I've been watching the posts here about pay vs non-pay. You probably end up paying at least as much for dating-site civilians as for P4P once you add up the taxi money, gifts, meals / drinks, whatever. So its not a money-based decision for me. In my case its about do I want to know what I'm getting or take a chance on the marketplace.

I have had my profile up on IndoCupid for about 6 weeks. I have almost 400 incoming expressions of Interest. Yes, some are howlers. But I'd say 60% are do-able and half of those are 7-9. Challenge is location, because INDO is so huge, many are too far for me to get to from where I would be.

I was in Medan for 3 days and Jakarta for 4 days in June, and am coming back to Jakarta in late July. I did all my work in advance on the IndoCupid site. Only had a little free time in Medan so I only lined up one 26 year old, but she was very hot and gave great GFE for 2 overnights. Total damage 300, 000 taxi money, some inexpensive shared room service food, and $40 USD cash for "her family". Don't know what I would have had to pay for that level of quality (best oral I ever got) and GFE for 2 all-nighters in the P4P market but I was well satisfied with the ROI on this civilian adventure.

In Jakarta I met with 7 women in 4 days, age range 20. 43 (I'm in my 60's so this is all young meat to me). I had arranged them all thru IC to come to my hotel and they knew what I wanted. It was remarkably easy to get quality women to do what I wanted and I'd say 5 of the 7 are definitely repeat-worthy. Other two are great friend material, but once was enuf in bed.

The benefit is no surprises. The challenge is when they get emotionally attached to you, which is what we avoid w / P4P. That has happened with one of them but we are dealing with it. THe downside is that you don't get the amazing find that blows your mind as can sometimes happen when you are hunting P4P.

I've mongered on almost every continent, and for me, at this stage in my life, I like using my time before travel to line up sure things online and know I will have lots of intense experiences. But I realize thats not right for everybody.

I am planning my next trip now (July 27-30) and am going for all new women, mostly in their 20's and early 30's. I have a long list of about 30 from IC that all said they'd meet me for play. Of that I have a short-list of 9 that I am emailing with regularly and will make my final choices soon. I'll let you guys know how it goes. But to echo others here, having tried Japan Cupid and Korea Cupid with a small handful of candidates, dealing with women on IndoCupid is like being a kid in a candy store. Huge selection and very good quality for a genuine GFE experience.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1446742]I don't agree with that and think it's misleading for guys considering visiting Jakarta during Ramadhan. It's not as easy to get chicks during Ramadhan. You can still get them, but it's not as easy. If your sole source of girls is dating sites and mall hunting then you won't notice as much difference as you will if you like going to the great variety of "massage" places and discos. But Ramadhan does hinder things, especially as it gets closer to idul fitri since the girls go home to their village and the city empties out.[/QUOTE]I don't mean picking up girls from clubs or bars because the bars have tighter opening hours and there will be less girls visiting during Ramadhan (I believe?) but I mean scoring girls from the mall or the internet, I see no difference, actually I am getting more action these first few Ramadhan weeks then I was getting before Ramadhan.

I never go to a club to pick up girls, just not to my liking, I rarely visit a club and if I do I never bring a girl home, I am mostly accompanied by a girl anyway.

[QUOTE=SmallBird; 1446844]Bro,

I did this kind of hunting activity few times. If the girl appears attractive / nice attitude in someway, I fall in love with her. For sure, even the girl said looking for serious relatioship doesn't actually like serious at all.

This makes me in a bad condition.

For sure, I don't want to really have a serious relationship with them but am open to everything.

Is it because I am still young? How do you control your emotion when communicate with girl? Being rejected? Being fall in love? Being pulled by girl that actually fall in love with you?

This questions might be silly. Unfortunately for me, it happens routinely. It makes me kind of uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]Falling in love is the biggest mistake you can possibly make. If you fall in love with an Indonesian girl (any girl really) you are like putty in her hands and she will use and abuse you any way she sees fit. Actually many girls will leave you right away if they sense you are needy or head over heels in love with them because it turns them off big time.

You just got to act like the MAN. That is what girls want. You got to be cool in any situation and you got to be cool with her. Just act like you don't need her and you have scores of other girls waiting for you. I always show my new girls my whatsapp list of pretty girls (about 30 now) and it makes them only more interested in me. Girls really love bad boys and Indonesian girls love them even more. Be confident, be cool and be funny, be an allround nice person to be around with and the girls will come with you almost without any exception, even the ones that are initially not into you, they will change their mind and come with you.

Also when you are with a girl for instance in a cafe or whatever, talk to the other people around you too, don't only focus on her, show her that you can talk and joke with anybody and she will think, wow that guy is fun, I cannot wait to check out his spring bed later.

My god I should not be giving all these advices, believe me most of the regulars on this forum know exactly what I am talking about because they do this every day.

I am not giving away more secrets to you, the rest is for you to find out yourself.

Goodluck Smallbird

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1447298]I guess you consider your time not to be worth anything. It takes time to scour the internet dating sites and send message after message to a girl to get her to meet you. The reason I don't prefer the dating sites is that it is time consuming. I prefer just to go to the bar or massage place and pick out a girl. You always pay in some way, whether it's cash, your time, or emotionally.[/QUOTE]Bro,

I resort to the same way as you do. For non-pro, sometimes they fall in love with me (don't know is real or not) , sometimes amazingly I fall in love with them!

Non-pro is time wasting for me. I only do it when I have plenty of time at that period.

In jakarta, p4p provides the best among the best to me. It justs doesn't deliver some sort of excitement on hunting. Otherwise, p4p is simply awesome.

[QUOTE=Wild Wind; 1447343]I've been watching the posts here about pay vs non-pay. You probably end up paying at least as much for dating-site civilians as for P4P once you add up the taxi money, gifts, meals / drinks, whatever. So its not a money-based decision for me. In my case its about do I want to know what I'm getting or take a chance on the marketplace.

I have had my profile up on IndoCupid for about 6 weeks. I have almost 400 incoming expressions of Interest. Yes, some are howlers. But I'd say 60% are do-able and half of those are 7-9. Challenge is location, because INDO is so huge, many are too far for me to get to from where I would be.

I was in Medan for 3 days and Jakarta for 4 days in June, and am coming back to Jakarta in late July. I did all my work in advance on the IndoCupid site. Only had a little free time in Medan so I only lined up one 26 year old, but she was very hot and gave great GFE for 2 overnights. Total damage 300, 000 taxi money, some inexpensive shared room service food, and $40 USD cash for "her family". Don't know what I would have had to pay for that level of quality (best oral I ever got) and GFE for 2 all-nighters in the P4P market but I was well satisfied with the ROI on this civilian adventure.

In Jakarta I met with 7 women in 4 days, age range 20. 43 (I'm in my 60's so this is all young meat to me). I had arranged them all thru IC to come to my hotel and they knew what I wanted. It was remarkably easy to get quality women to do what I wanted and I'd say 5 of the 7 are definitely repeat-worthy. Other two are great friend material, but once was enuf in bed.

The benefit is no surprises. The challenge is when they get emotionally attached to you, which is what we avoid w / P4P. That has happened with one of them but we are dealing with it. THe downside is that you don't get the amazing find that blows your mind as can sometimes happen when you are hunting P4P.

I've mongered on almost every continent, and for me, at this stage in my life, I like using my time before travel to line up sure things online and know I will have lots of intense experiences. But I realize thats not right for everybody.

I am planning my next trip now (July 27-30) and am going for all new women, mostly in their 20's and early 30's. I have a long list of about 30 from IC that all said they'd meet me for play. Of that I have a short-list of 9 that I am emailing with regularly and will make my final choices soon. I'll let you guys know how it goes. But to echo others here, having tried Japan Cupid and Korea Cupid with a small handful of candidates, dealing with women on IndoCupid is like being a kid in a candy store. Huge selection and very good quality for a genuine GFE experience.[/QUOTE]Bro,

You are great. Even I am younger than you, I have never ever achieved what you have mentioned above. A long list!

[QUOTE=SmallBird; 1447594]Bro,

You are great. Even I am younger than you, I have never ever achieved what you have mentioned above. A long list![/QUOTE]It's easier for a bule on dating sites Smallbird (I hope that that name is not overly descriptive of yourself BTW). However I do agree with Wild Wind and far prefer the non-P4P. I'm older than you but younger than him and it really isn't all that difficult (I am 49 and not a bule either). The girls appreciate you being honest and straightforward. I'm absolutely sure that it is cheaper to do non-P4P and you have them lined up before you arrive. If you're lucky and they drop by where you live (I've had a few come to KL and enjoyed passing an afternoon in their hotel room) it adds to the benefits:p.

[QUOTE=JustABule;1447540]Falling in love is the biggest mistake you can possibly make. If you fall in love with an Indonesian girl (any girl really) you are like putty in her hands and she will use and abuse you any way she sees fit. Actually many girls will leave you right away if they sense you are needy or head over heels in love with them because it turns them off big time.[/QUOTE]I'm not quite sure I agree with you mate. It's not the falling in love that's the problem, but the keeping control of yourself. I've fallen in love a few times and it's funny still being friends even after they've gone and gotten married. You just need to be realistic. I do agree with you about not being needy - but that's a whole other kettle of fish. Yes you do need to stay in control (and no, it's not easy) but it's amazing the GFE you get when they feel some reciprocation.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1447298]I guess you consider your time not to be worth anything. It takes time to scour the internet dating sites and send message after message to a girl to get her to meet you. The reason I don't prefer the dating sites is that it is time consuming. I prefer just to go to the bar or massage place and pick out a girl. You always pay in some way, whether it's cash, your time, or emotionally.[/QUOTE]I don't entirely agree with you. Yes, you do need some time, but if you discipline yourself to 15 minutes a day for scouring and messaging, you can accomplish a whole lot. Short of that time cost (surely not the greatest expenditure as going to a club / bar will take time in itself, as well as money) it's possible to get complete freebies or at worst the cost of dinner. Since I'm pretty sure most of us eat meals at some point, it's really only half the dinner cost you're paying for the girl:). I'm certain that it's more pleasant having dinner with attractive company than eating alone as well (can that be considered another fringe benefit?;)).

[QUOTE=Euremia;1446900]But sometimes I also met girls who weren't not my cup of tea, and though I'd love to run, I still tried to be polite, invited them to drinks before making up some excuses to leave. Jakarta is sure one of the best places on earth for mongering.[/QUOTE]That's why my standard meeting place is over a cup of coffee / tea. If I have to bale, then I don't waste too much time or expenditure unnecessarily. You can carry on to a meal or drinks (or the hotel room:D) should you wish to get to know her better. It's amazing how many will be perfectly happy to opt for the hotel room immediately after the coffee.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1447810]I don't entirely agree with you. Yes, you do need some time, but if you discipline yourself to 15 minutes a day for scouring and messaging, you can accomplish a whole lot. Short of that time cost (surely not the greatest expenditure as going to a club / bar will take time in itself, as well as money) it's possible to get complete freebies or at worst the cost of dinner. Since I'm pretty sure most of us eat meals at some point, it's really only half the dinner cost you're paying for the girl. I'm certain that it's more pleasant having dinner with attractive company than eating alone as well (can that be considered another fringe benefit.).

That's why my standard meeting place is over a cup of coffee / tea. If I have to bale, then I don't waste too much time or expenditure unnecessarily. You can carry on to a meal or drinks (or the hotel room.) should you wish to get to know her better. It's amazing how many will be perfectly happy to opt for the hotel room immediately after the coffee.

MD II[/QUOTE]I agree here. Time could but shouldn't always or necessarily be compared or converted into cost or money. It's also part of the fun, and actually you don't need much time for searching and massaging as well.

To me freebees can't be compared to P4P girls, and I always prefer freebees than P4P. Of course you can choose the P4P girls as well but your options, depend on what you pay, are not unlimited (for example, at the massage plus plus parlours, by standard you can get 1h or 1,5h of fun, with BJ either CBJ or BBJ then FS. While CIM or additional are not always available.). I myself rarely accepted BBJ by WGs since I always care about health issues; and I also didn't often meet a WG who accepted CIM. Meanwhile, with my freebees, since almost all of them were normal, clean girls so health didn't really a matter here and I could always enjoy their BBJs; and always ended with CIM.

I also usually meet them over coffee / tea or, depend on how much I am willing to spend with a particular girl, lunch or diner at a good but not expensive restaurant inside the malls.

The only hindrance with me is that I don't bring girls back to my place to avoid gossips, therefore I need to either bring them to a hotel or other places (in some cases, to the girls' home). But it is not always easy to ask a normal girl to hotel with you in the first date. So you must think first whether she will accept it (in my experiences so far. 8 out of 10 of the girls who I asked agreed).

Dating sites are fish in the barrel. It does not take long, but, it is way easier if you live here. Never more than a second date for most to end up in bed. The older ones (late 20's-mid 30's) are there a lot quicker and most are fantastic in bed. I literally have to keep a separate calendar just for dating. I do tend to keep them too long though. I have one now that is in love and has started to dictate terms. If she was not so damn sexy would have been gone long ago. MD does that mean I am in love? LOL

Taking her on a trip next week and will lay down the law (and some pipe).

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1447540]Falling in love is the biggest mistake you can possibly make. If you fall in love with an Indonesian girl (any girl really) you are like putty in her hands and she will use and abuse you any way she sees fit. Actually many girls will leave you right away if they sense you are needy or head over heels in love with them because it turns them off big time.

You just got to act like the MAN. That is what girls want. You got to be cool in any situation and you got to be cool with her. Just act like you don't need her and you have scores of other girls waiting for you. I always show my new girls my whatsapp list of pretty girls (about 30 now) and it makes them only more interested in me. Girls really love bad boys and Indonesian girls love them even more. Be confident, be cool and be funny, be an allround nice person to be around with and the girls will come with you almost without any exception, even the ones that are initially not into you, they will change their mind and come with you.

Also when you are with a girl for instance in a cafe or whatever, talk to the other people around you too, don't only focus on her, show her that you can talk and joke with anybody and she will think, wow that guy is fun, I cannot wait to check out his spring bed later.

My god I should not be giving all these advices, believe me most of the regulars on this forum know exactly what I am talking about because they do this every day.

I am not giving away more secrets to you, the rest is for you to find out yourself.

Goodluck Smallbird[/QUOTE]Bro,

Thank you for your advise. Your advice is precious for me.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1447810]It's easier for a bule on dating sites Smallbird (I hope that that name is not overly descriptive of yourself BTW). However I do agree with Wild Wind and far prefer the non-P4P. I'm older than you but younger than him and it really isn't all that difficult (I am 49 and not a bule either). The girls appreciate you being honest and straightforward. I'm absolutely sure that it is cheaper to do non-P4P and you have them lined up before you arrive. If you're lucky and they drop by where you live (I've had a few come to KL and enjoyed passing an afternoon in their hotel room) it adds to the benefits.

MD II[/QUOTE]Bro, thank you for your precious suggestion. Self control, as you and other expert mention are crucial, not only on hunting, but also on any other area.

[QUOTE=WTF0506; 1447932]Dating sites are fish in the barrel. It does not take long, but, it is way easier if you live here. Never more than a second date for most to end up in bed. The older ones (late 20's-mid 30's) are there a lot quicker and most are fantastic in bed. I literally have to keep a separate calendar just for dating. I do tend to keep them too long though. I have one now that is in love and has started to dictate terms. If she was not so damn sexy would have been gone long ago. MD does that mean I am in love? LOL

Taking her on a trip next week and will lay down the law (and some pipe).[/QUOTE]I always avoided the ones who state in their profile that they have kids. Because I always think girls with kids have horrible bodies. However the other night I got a message from a really pretty girl who had one kid. I met her, bedded her and she had one of the most beautiful bodies I have ever encountered, slim, sexy and great boobs. She is 25 years old and her body is trim and firm like an 18 year old, and no stretchmarks whatsoever.

Maybe I missed out on a lot of beautiful girls the last couple of years.

no taxis. anywhere.

in jakarta for the first time (see day 1 and day 2 reports #7381 and #7384 if you are interested) , i am learning first hand what happens when it rains on a saturday afternoon.

i am at the mall. there's a long line of optimistic souls stoically waiting for a taxi but of course, none is in sight. i want to get back to the hotel: there are reports to read, emails to reply, calls to make.

i decide to call for my jakarta host's company car to come pick me up, when i hear tinkling feminine laughter behind me. i turn around to look and find myself facing two gorgeous, long haired beauties, gleefully chattering in bahasa. the girls seem pleased with my attention and also halt their chatter to look at me.

their complexion is the palest i have seen so far on any indonesian girl; probably an eclectic indo / japanese / korean mix.

the shorter of the two (late teens?) has a cute oval face, soft chin and pouty, pink lips. she is also the more curvaceous (but not overly so) and is wearing a patterned, blue tank top over her (b cup?) breasts. this is matched off by a pair of casual tie dye denim shorts apparently painted on to her gorgeously coquettish and protuberant ass.

the taller girl (perhaps also 19 or maybe slightly older?) could easily be a dead ringer for a younger, [blue][personal name deleted by admin][/blue]. (for those of you who perhaps don't travel as frequently to japan and want to know what nozomi looks like, search in google for "flickr groups /,[blue][personal name deleted by admin][/blue] "). the jakarta nozomi is wearing a white, lacy boobtube freely exposing her delicate shoulders and porcelain midriff. the lacy, bra vest coupled with her (fake) j crew animal print, shorts of linen canvas magnificently showcase the round slope of her slim belly descending erotically and sharply from the navel to her tiny, mound of venus.

what a gorgeous two set on a rainy day! i greet them in bahasa.

this promptly brings fresh peels of laughter from both girls and pouty lips sympathetically asks me in english "not speak bahasa indonesia?" (i had intended to wish them "good day" but god knows what i actually said!) i hastily switch to english but quickly learn that their knowledge of english is worse, somewhere between atrocious and abysmal.

in such moments, trust technology to lend a hand! translator app! it's not perfect but hey, it's something!

"no taxis. i will call my driver and ask him to come. your driver is here? no, he is at the office maybe you can ask him in bahasa to come to the mall. your driver says he will come immediately but. traffic. tell him it's way better than waiting indefinitely for a taxi here. giggle. your driver says he is coming soon. hey, when the car gets here, do you want me to give you a ride? you will? yes, no trouble at all. giggle. sure? sure! terima kasi. hey, want to grab something inside while we wait. giggle. oh! ok!"

safely inside from the muggy heat and the heavy downpour, they tell me they are sisters; the older one with the boobtube is lia and the younger one with the pouty lips is diah. but mall pickups using technology have their capricious side: for one, the translator apps are notoriously inconsistent and then there's all that pesky typing although, their double thumbed typing can easily set a world record.

so, staccato style, i slowly learn the following about them: "we are sisters. but wait in facebook your birthdays are only 7 months apart? oh! i see, that means you are cousins, not sisters. so, both your parents, chinese? your mothers are korean? no? only her mother? but not yours? what? yours also? huh?"

at the foodcourt, with much giggling they choose to sit on either side of me, instead of opposite me. maybe this is to help read the translator app screen, but whatever the reason this happy seating arrangment also allows me to have my legs press up against their creamy, smooth thighs. and each time they lean across me to talk in bahasa, there is a trail of floral scented perfume which lingers.

the girls' strongly accented english adds to the hilarity of our puzzled, conversation:

"you like rihanna?"

"yes, some of her songs"

"you like. ' i like nicky damon'?"

"never heard it. how does it go?"

they both sing the chorus in unison "i likey nicky damon. i likey nicky damon"

"oh! diamonds? that actually goes 'shine bright like a diamond"

"yes, yes, that one. you like?"

i also notice a competition of sorts between them. each trying to be more seductive than the other: if one runs her fingers though her hair and twirls it, the other would straighten her posture and thrust her breasts out. this would make the first one to ostentatiously cross her legs and let her feet dangle to rub against my leg. upping the ante the other one would lean so close to talk to me, her lips almost touching my cheek and earlobe.

we are having ice cream, chocolate for them, vanilla for me. the talkative twosome are quiet only when eating their ice cream; but even with mouthfuls of ice cream, every time they catch me looking at them, they giggle shyly covering their mouths with the back of their hands.

i am intoxicated by their sensual body language; but their cheeky playfulness is even more appealing. my mind fills with deviant images of sinful threesomes with these two. oh, the things we could get up to! but in my defence the depravity of my thoughts are not entirely, unprovoked.

for instance, what i am about to describe. i swear. took less than 10 seconds. but even now, i can replay the whole scene frame by frame.

their icecream almost finished, i offer them some of mine. diah accepts immediately and grabs my fist holding the spoonful of icecream with both hands. but instead of directing the spoon to her mouth, she moves her head seductively towards it with her pouty lips open. i watch mesmerised with lia pressed close to me with her finely chiselled chin on my shoulder.

diah's tongue darts out and slowly licks the smooth underside of the spoon before her soft mouth closes over it. the delicate hands tighten around my fist while her mischeivous eyes are locked into mine. ever so slightly, she now moves her pretty head in and out, as if she is sucking. all done fleetingly fast, but long enough to leave an indelible impression. diah then pulls away at a 45 degree angle from the waist, laughing with her hands covering her mouth.

not to be left out, lia shakes me by the shoulder and mock-pleadingly points to her mouth. i scoop up some icecream for her. lia starts off by giving a half moon of a lick to the spoon before sticking out her tongue to receive the icecream. it's a bit messy as some of the white cream smears her lips and dribbles down her chin. there's much laughter from both girls as lia daintily wipes off the smeared cream, with the back of her hand. she then opens and closes her mouth and says "look, all gone!" and smiles prettily. diah guffaws.

as i say all of this took no more than 10 seconds but did any of the shoppers in that crowded foodcourt notice this erotic performance? i doubt it but there's no doubt about my raging hardon!

back at my hotel, they delightedly run around the largish suite, posing for each other and taking photos. they are obsessed with their looks. not once did they walk past a mirror without glancing to look at their own reflection, straighten their hair or adjust their posture.

i am hungry, so i order room service. when the food arrives they both sit on the floor at the lounge coffee table sharing nasi goreng from the same plate. this time, i get the r rated version of 'sucking the spoon schtik' but with the sate skewers as props. it is not however done with full on horniness but with a cheeky playfulness and a lot of gigles.

diah lifts up the skewer and bends own under to lick the whole length of the underside of the meat before proceeding to rub the sides with her pouty lips. lia amazes me by throwing her head back to deep throat almost half the skewer. has a sate ever been taken into such small mouths more erotically or more seductively?

afterwards, they sit on either side of me in the sofa and watch imovies on my ipad, squealing appreciatively. by now, diah sitting to my right has her right leg draped over my outstretched legs, my palm freely running over the silkiness of her thighs. my other hand is wrapped around lia's waist, who helpfully repositions herself to let my hand slide inside the waistband of her shorts.

taken up with those silly imovie horror trailers, diah pleads with me, her pouty lips pouting even more "please! do imovie with lia and me"! i let her beg some more before suggesting that i might consider it if she gives me a kiss. lia lasciviously coos "ayyyy".

without missing a beat, diah throws her arms around me and kisses me. i draw her close to prolong the kiss and hungrily suck on those sexy, pouty lips! after i let go, diah wipes her lips with the back of her wrist and asks. still on point."you will do imovie?"

without answering i turn to lia, who with her hand on my left shoulder gets up and sinuously straddles either side of my knees. i am now staring at that porcelain smoothness of her exposed midriff. with her arms on my shoulders lia draws me to her. my lips and tongue need no further encouragement, as i start to lick and kiss her silky belly; lia sexily slithers down, hugging my face tightly to her torso and letting my mouth trace its contours over the lacy boobtube as she sits down on my lap, cowgirl style. she offers to my eager mouth first her left tit and then the right.

not to be left out, diah climbs on to the sofa on her knees and wraps my right arm around her waist. my hand reaches for her spectacular ass, squeezing each of those magnificent orbs.

still writhing sensously on my lap, lia is visbly turned on by my tonguing her perky tits. she lifts up my face to kiss me passionately. as i rub her tiny mound i feel the heat of her crotch. lia bites my lower lip and then runs her tongue over it. i too bring my tongue into play and lia eagerly opens her mouth to receive it.

outside, rain is falling down in buckets on sinners and saints alike; inside, the two young things wrapped around me are taking me to seventh heaven. at that point, i was blissfully ignorant about the disastrous curve ball fate was about to throw at me!

customary apologies for the quality of the ipad photos!

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How much you guys pay for indonesiancupid subscription? You guys choose 1 month package or?

Is 1 month package sufficient?

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1447997]I always avoided the ones who state in their profile that they have kids. Because I always think girls with kids have horrible bodies. However the other night I got a message from a really pretty girl who had one kid. I met her, bedded her and she had one of the most beautiful bodies I have ever encountered, slim, sexy and great boobs. She is 25 years old and her body is trim and firm like an 18 year old, and no stretchmarks whatsoever.

Maybe I missed out on a lot of beautiful girls the last couple of years.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, during my busy mongering period in Jakarta (August 2004 to June 2009) , the best set of tits I ever found were on Cynthia, who worked at Kartika (up until her death in November 2007) and who had given birth to a son in August 2004. I wrote about her extensively, including a story about my visit to her family 6 months after she had died. Cynthia was medium-build by Indonesian standards (by Western standards she would have been considered slim) but had an unusually large, firm set, also with no stretchmarks. Plus, for most of 2005 (she returned to Kartika around February 2005) I got some free milk as well!

Three of the eight women I was with on my June trip to INDO had kids and there was no impact on their bodies. Each had a great bod, and 2 had pretty big tits and there was no sag problem there either.

[QUOTE=SmallBird;1448372]How much you guys pay for indonesiancupid subscription? You guys choose 1 month package or? Is 1 month package sufficient?[/QUOTE]It's enough if you're looking at a one time trip, but if you intend to go a few times, it's more economical to take a longer subscription. I do the 12 months Gold subscription.

[QUOTE=JustABule;1447997]I always avoided the ones who state in their profile that they have kids. Maybe I missed out on a lot of beautiful girls the last couple of years.[/QUOTE]Yes you have mate. One of the best girls I've been with was a widow with a kid. I was always near the edge of falling for her. It took a lot of self control not to.

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1447932]Dating sites are fish in the barrel. It does not take long, but, it is way easier if you live here. Never more than a second date for most to end up in bed. The older ones (late 20's-mid 30's) are there a lot quicker and most are fantastic in bed. I literally have to keep a separate calendar just for dating. I do tend to keep them too long though. I have one now that is in love and has started to dictate terms. If she was not so damn sexy would have been gone long ago. MD does that mean I am in love? LOL[/QUOTE]Not necessarily bro, I don't live there and it's not an obstacle; BBM, whatsapp and viber help a lot. No you're not in love mate, it's just brain no. 2 doing your thinking for you. ROFLMAO :D. I've been there before and you just need to be a little bit careful. I have almost fallen a couple of times and the trouble was that it was both the brains thinking. In those cases, they didn't dictate terms, but took the trouble to see what stress level or mood I was in, and then made me feel better. Take care bro and watch the proverbial step.;)

MD II

I am just planning 2 trips so I did Platinum for 1 month, two times. If any of you are on IndoCupid, check out #1633889, she is called Ina and is hungry for see*ck. I passed because my plate is full.

On IC I make it very clear in my profile that I am from US, that I am married and that I am looking for physical intimacy with a beautiful young Indonesian woman. That way there is no question. My pics are good so they attract a lot of attention, so make sure you lead with a good pic. A lot of the women just click Interest based on the pic, so I always make sure they read the profile and get the program. Some (like the devout Islamic women) bail out after that. But if they say they read my profile", I put them in the Yes column. Then its a matter of whether or not I want to do them, not of they want to do me. Pretty amazing role reversal.

The women on IC in their late 20's and 30's are, generally speaking, ready to rock 'and roll. At least with e bule like me. And there are a lot of good looking ones (7-9). They don't require much convincing. I had a couple of very good ones in early 40's as well, but ones any older than that generally aren't very attractive (and remember, I'm in my 60's so I shouldn't be picky, but on IC I can afford to be very picky).

The ones in late teens to mid 20's are mostly reluctant to commit to meet me and do the things I want, so I have stopped working on them. There's also a cultural gap. I did a 20 year old on my first trip and she began the session by lying on my bed chewing gum and focusing attention on her cell phone. I finally had to ask her if she remembered what she said she would do with me, and she said yes, so I just started taking her clothes off. Things improved when we got going and now she is asking me to see her again on this upcoming trip. But I didn't like how it started, and she also had about 3 days crotch stubble from a previous shave job. All the others I met were immaculately groomed. So I am not geoing to do her again.

There are a few obvious pros on IC too (one is named Barbie. Her tag line is "Let's meet for fun". I stay away from those.

As it has been mentioned on here before, although their profiles say they want marriage, long term, etc, I just ignore that and most end up being interested in a high quality one-time with me in a 5 star hotel.

I'm staying 3 nights on this upcoming trip (July 27-30) and have arranged 3 overnights with a 27, a 31 and another 31, all single working women with no kids. I think this may be the sweet spot for me with youthful bodies and energy, and enough maturity to be interesting to spend the night with.

For the daytimes I'm still talking to several women and have not decided who to schedule yet. There's one very cute 25 year old devout Muslim girl who wears a Hijab but says she has met IC people before ("just for friends") that I may work on just for the challenge to see if I can get somewhere with her (without causing an int'l incident).

I'll let you guys know how all this goes.

[QUOTE=Wild Wind;1448523]On IC I make it very clear in my profile that I am from US, that I am married and that I am looking for physical intimacy with a beautiful young Indonesian woman. That way there is no question.[/QUOTE]Maybe they are different on IC, but on DIA it seems no one reads your profile. I very clearly mentioned I found my love on DIA and was not interested in new contacts, but still I got many "interests" and messages. It would be a nice experiment to put on your profile some random Latin quote from Caesar or Tacitus and see if you still get messages. I'm quite sure it makes no difference at all.

[QUOTE=Wild Wind;1448523]As it has been mentioned on here before, although their profiles say they want marriage, long term, etc, I just ignore that[/QUOTE]You have just proven my point. :) Thank you.

[QUOTE=Wild Wind;1448523]I'm staying 3 nights on this upcoming trip (July 27-30) and have arranged 3 overnights with a 27, a 31 and another 31, all single working women with no kids. I think this may be the sweet spot for me with youthful bodies and energy, and enough maturity to be interesting to spend the night with.[/QUOTE]This is my groove exactly, and over the years have built up a steady stable of regulars. Suits me perfectly, and for those of us who need to work for a living, no need to be out at bars until the early morning. Schedule one of these lovelies to drop by my hotel on their way home, and if in the mood for a quickie have some pre-dinner activity, off to a nice restaurant for a great meal and chit-chat, then back to my room for the main course, and on her way home at a reasonable hour which allows me to get to bed at a reasonable time completely drained and ready for another day.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1448532]Maybe they are different on IC, but on DIA it seems no one reads your profile. I very clearly mentioned I found my love on DIA and was not interested in new contacts, but still I got many "interests" and messages. It would be a nice experiment to put on your profile some random Latin quote from Caesar or Tacitus and see if you still get messages. I'm quite sure it makes no difference at all.

You have just proven my point. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha. Point well taken. After I see an attractive pic I just look at the profile for Height / Weight (no fatties) and English language ability (reasonable chance to communicate). If those check out I pounce and see what happens.

Another tip is, once you make contact, get their private email and phone asap because a lot of these women are very sporadic visitors to IC. I have outbound Interests and follow-up IC emails to about 30 or 40 hotties who still haven't even opened the IC emails after weeks!

[QUOTE=Pak Mike;1448533]This is my groove exactly, and over the years have built up a steady stable of regulars. Suits me perfectly, and for those of us who need to work for a living, no need to be out at bars until the early morning. Schedule one of these lovelies to drop by my hotel on their way home, and if in the mood for a quickie have some pre-dinner activity, off to a nice restaurant for a great meal and chit-chat, then back to my room for the main course, and on her way home at a reasonable hour which allows me to get to bed at a reasonable time completely drained and ready for another day.[/QUOTE]Man, it sounds like you have it all figured out! Good on you, Mate.

[QUOTE=Pak Mike;1448533]This is my groove exactly, and over the years have built up a steady stable of regulars. Suits me perfectly, and for those of us who need to work for a living, no need to be out at bars until the early morning. Schedule one of these lovelies to drop by my hotel on their way home, and if in the mood for a quickie have some pre-dinner activity, off to a nice restaurant for a great meal and chit-chat, then back to my room for the main course, and on her way home at a reasonable hour which allows me to get to bed at a reasonable time completely drained and ready for another day.[/QUOTE]Bro, you are living my dream too. I like make love in the same time also like sleep alone.

[quote=alpha cue; 1448247]no taxis. anywhere.

in jakarta for the first time (see day 1 and day 2 reports #7381 and #7384 if you are interested) , i am learning first hand what happens when it rains on a saturday afternoon.

i am at the mall. there's a long line of optimistic souls stoically waiting for a taxi but of course, none is in sight. i want to get back to the hotel: there are reports to read, emails to reply, calls to make.

i decide to call for my jakarta host's company car to come pick me up, when i hear tinkling feminine laughter behind me. i turn around to look and find myself facing two gorgeous, long haired beauties, gleefully chattering in bahasa. the girls seem pleased with my attention and also halt their chatter to look at me.

their complexion is the palest i have seen so far on any indonesian girl; probably an eclectic indo / japanese / korean mix.

the shorter of the two (late teens?) has a cute oval face, soft chin and pouty, pink lips. she is also the more curvaceous (but not overly so) and is wearing a patterned, blue tank top over her (b cup?) breasts. this is matched off by a pair of casual tie dye denim shorts apparently painted on to her gorgeously coquettish and protuberant ass.

the taller girl (perhaps also 19 or maybe slightly older?) could easily be a dead ringer for a younger, [blue][personal name deleted by admin][/blue]. (for those of you who perhaps don't travel as frequently to japan and want to know what nozomi looks like, search in google for "flickr groups, [blue][personal name deleted by admin][/blue] "). the jakarta nozomi is wearing a white, lacy boobtube freely exposing her delicate shoulders and porcelain midriff. the lacy, bra vest coupled with her (fake) j crew animal print, shorts of linen canvas magnificently showcase the round slope of her slim belly descending erotically and sharply from the navel to her tiny, mound of venus.

what a gorgeous two set on a rainy day! i greet them in bahasa.

this promptly brings fresh peels of laughter from both girls and pouty lips sympathetically asks me in english "not speak bahasa indonesia?" (i had intended to wish them "good day" but god knows what i actually said!) i hastily switch to english but quickly learn that their knowledge of english is worse, somewhere between atrocious and abysmal.

in such moments, trust technology to lend a hand! translator app! it's not perfect but hey, it's something!

"no taxis. i will call my driver and ask him to come. your driver is here? no, he is at the office maybe you can ask him in bahasa to come to the mall. your driver says he will come immediately but. traffic. tell him it's way better than waiting indefinitely for a taxi here. giggle. your driver says he is coming soon. hey, when the car gets here, do you want me to give you a ride? you will? yes, no trouble at all. giggle. sure? sure! terima kasi. hey, want to grab something inside while we wait. giggle. oh! ok!"

safely inside from the muggy heat and the heavy downpour, they tell me they are sisters; the older one with the boobtube is lia and the younger one with the pouty lips is diah. but mall pickups using technology have their capricious side: for one, the translator apps are notoriously inconsistent and then there's all that pesky typing although, their double thumbed typing can easily set a world record.

so, staccato style, i slowly learn the following about them: "we are sisters. but wait in facebook your birthdays are only 7 months apart? oh! i see, that means you are cousins, not sisters. so, both your parents, chinese? your mothers are korean? no? only her mother? but not yours? what? yours also? huh?"

at the foodcourt, with much giggling they choose to sit on either side of me, instead of opposite me. maybe this is to help read the translator app screen, but whatever the reason this happy seating arrangment also allows me to have my legs press up against their creamy, smooth thighs. and each time they lean across me to talk in bahasa, there is a trail of floral scented perfume which lingers.

the girls' strongly accented english adds to the hilarity of our puzzled, conversation:

"you like rihanna?"

"yes, some of her songs"

"you like. ' i like nicky damon'?"

"never heard it. how does it go?"

they both sing the chorus in unison "i likey nicky damon. i likey nicky damon"

"oh! diamonds? that actually goes 'shine bright like a diamond"

"yes, yes, that one. you like?"

i also notice a competition of sorts between them. each trying to be more seductive than the other: if one runs her fingers though her hair and twirls it, the other would straighten her posture and thrust her breasts out. this would make the first one to ostentatiously cross her legs and let her feet dangle to rub against my leg. upping the ante the other one would lean so close to talk to me, her lips almost touching my cheek and earlobe.

we are having ice cream, chocolate for them, vanilla for me. the talkative twosome are quiet only when eating their ice cream; but even with mouthfuls of ice cream, every time they catch me looking at them, they giggle shyly covering their mouths with the back of their hands.

i am intoxicated by their sensual body language; but their cheeky playfulness is even more appealing. my mind fills with deviant images of sinful threesomes with these two. oh, the things we could get up to! but in my defence the depravity of my thoughts are not entirely, unprovoked.

for instance, what i am about to describe. i swear. took less than 10 seconds. but even now, i can replay the whole scene frame by frame.

their icecream almost finished, i offer them some of mine. diah accepts immediately and grabs my fist holding the spoonful of icecream with both hands. but instead of directing the spoon to her mouth, she moves her head seductively towards it with her pouty lips open. i watch mesmerised with lia pressed close to me with her finely chiselled chin on my shoulder.

diah's tongue darts out and slowly licks the smooth underside of the spoon before her soft mouth closes over it. the delicate hands tighten around my fist while her mischeivous eyes are locked into mine. ever so slightly, she now moves her pretty head in and out, as if she is sucking. all done fleetingly fast, but long enough to leave an indelible impression. diah then pulls away at a 45 degree angle from the waist, laughing with her hands covering her mouth.

not to be left out, lia shakes me by the shoulder and mock-pleadingly points to her mouth. i scoop up some icecream for her. lia starts off by giving a half moon of a lick to the spoon before sticking out her tongue to receive the icecream. it's a bit messy as some of the white cream smears her lips and dribbles down her chin. there's much laughter from both girls as lia daintily wipes off the smeared cream, with the back of her hand. she then opens and closes her mouth and says "look, all gone!" and smiles prettily. diah guffaws.

as i say all of this took no more than 10 seconds but did any of the shoppers in that crowded foodcourt notice this erotic performance? i doubt it but there's no doubt about my raging hardon!

back at my hotel, they delightedly run around the largish suite, posing for each other and taking photos. they are obsessed with their looks. not once did they walk past a mirror without glancing to look at their own reflection, straighten their hair or adjust their posture.

i am hungry, so i order room service. when the food arrives they both sit on the floor at the lounge coffee table sharing nasi goreng from the same plate. this time, i get the r rated version of 'sucking the spoon schtik' but with the sate skewers as props. it is not however done with full on horniness but with a cheeky playfulness and a lot of gigles.

diah lifts up the skewer and bends own under to lick the whole length of the underside of the meat before proceeding to rub the sides with her pouty lips. lia amazes me by throwing her head back to deep throat almost half the skewer. has a sate ever been taken into such small mouths more erotically or more seductively?

afterwards, they sit on either side of me in the sofa and watch imovies on my ipad, squealing appreciatively. by now, diah sitting to my right has her right leg draped over my outstretched legs, my palm freely running over the silkiness of her thighs. my other hand is wrapped around lia's waist, who helpfully repositions herself to let my hand slide inside the waistband of her shorts.

taken up with those silly imovie horror trailers, diah pleads with me, her pouty lips pouting even more "please! do imovie with lia and me"! i let her beg some more before suggesting that i might consider it if she gives me a kiss. lia lasciviously coos "ayyyy".

without missing a beat, diah throws her arms around me and kisses me. i draw her close to prolong the kiss and hungrily suck on those sexy, pouty lips! after i let go, diah wipes her lips with the back of her wrist and asks. still on point."you will do imovie?"

without answering i turn to lia, who with her hand on my left shoulder gets up and sinuously straddles either side of my knees. i am now staring at that porcelain smoothness of her exposed midriff. with her arms on my shoulders lia draws me to her. my lips and tongue need no further encouragement, as i start to lick and kiss her silky belly; lia sexily slithers down, hugging my face tightly to her torso and letting my mouth trace its contours over the lacy boobtube as she sits down on my lap, cowgirl style. she offers to my eager mouth first her left tit and then the right.

not to be left out, diah climbs on to the sofa on her knees and wraps my right arm around her waist. my hand reaches for her spectacular ass, squeezing each of those magnificent orbs.

still writhing sensously on my lap, lia is visbly turned on by my tonguing her perky tits. she lifts up my face to kiss me passionately. as i rub her tiny mound i feel the heat of her crotch. lia bites my lower lip and then runs her tongue over it. i too bring my tongue into play and lia eagerly opens her mouth to receive it.

outside, rain is falling down in buckets on sinners and saints alike; inside, the two young things wrapped around me are taking me to seventh heaven. at that point, i was blissfully ignorant about the disastrous curve ball fate was about to throw at me!

customary apologies for the quality of the ipad photos!

[u][b]editor's note[/b][/u]: [blue]this report was edited or deleted to remove the [u]real personal name[/u] of a private individual. posting anyone's real personal name is a grave violation of their privacy and an event that justifies an immediate banning of the perpetrator.

please do not post anyone's actual personal name in the forum. please read the forum's posting guidelines for further information. [i]thanks! [/i][/blue][/quote]har? develop untill such status, you can still get a u-turn? is it real? awaiting your ending.

[QUOTE=Alpha Cue; 1448247]No taxis. Anywhere.

In Jakarta for the first time (see Day 1 and Day 2 reports #7381 and #7384 if you are interested) , I am learning first hand what happens when it rains on a Saturday afternoon.

I am at the mall.[/QUOTE]My word what a resourceful chap you are! You have achieved so much in your short time here in Jakarta, and on your first trip no less, senior members must be doffing their cap to you at this stage.

However, like the educated Indonesian office girl in your first report who spoke the sort of pidgin English you'd normally associate with a Pattaya bar girl, there's something just not right about your story.

So you're in a mall and you catch the eye of two delightful teenage beauties and despite having no local language skills you nonetheless have them back in your hotel room by nightfall. Well, it can be done, it has been done, I've done it myself, but it usually takes a little time adjusting to the local scene. But you on your first trip, pull this off with nothing more required than a few scoops of ice cream, well done sir, you are a credit.

However the girls' clothes shout out "wrong! Wrong! Wrong!"

I ask anyone here to go to a mall in Jakarta and check out what the young women are wearing. If it's an upmarket mall like PI or Sensi then a few of the wealthier Chinese girls will be wearing shorts, shorts not hotpants, walking around with their families, their clothes will be expensive and more importantly look expensive. As for the rest they will be wearing jeans, t-shirts and other normal mall-shopping clothes. They most certainly will not be wearing tacky, skin tight, cheap leopard-print hotpants and clingy lacy boob tubes with bare mid-riffs tottering on six-inch heels, not to the mall, no sir.

No, girls who dress like the little cuties you have photographed can certainly be easily picked up in Jakarta, just not in malls.

So in which Blok M or Kota pick up joint did you really find them?

[QUOTE=Wild Wind; 1448555]Ha Ha. Point well taken. After I see an attractive pic I just look at the profile for Height / Weight (no fatties) and English language ability (reasonable chance to communicate). If those check out I pounce and see what happens.

Another tip is, once you make contact, get their private email and phone asap because a lot of these women are very sporadic visitors to IC. I have outbound Interests and follow-up IC emails to about 30 or 40 hotties who still haven't even opened the IC emails after weeks![/QUOTE]Good info cheers.

Just got a reply from a chubby 22yr from IC.

Specifically asked for 1 mill for short time (2hr)

Thought it was a bit rich so not sure what so of prices for P4P.

You other brothers are getting?

Good tip to find the P4P are look under religion as Other and age 40-70 LOL.

[QUOTE=Clear Water; 1448670]Good info cheers.

Just got a reply from a chubby 22yr from IC.

Specifically asked for 1 mill for short time (2hr)

Thought it was a bit rich so not sure what so of prices for P4P.

You other brothers are getting?

Good tip to find the P4P are look under religion as Other and age 40-70 LOL.[/QUOTE]A chubby 22yr old? Sounds like a pass unless that is what you like. I tend to over pay, but, for her 500K. Maybe a little less. Depends on the story behind her request. Photo is one that cost 600K.

[QUOTE=Wild Wind; 1448523]I am just planning 2 trips so I did Platinum for 1 month, two times. If any of you are on IndoCupid, check out #1633889, she is called Ina and is hungry for see*ck. I passed because my plate is full.

On IC I make it very clear in my profile that I am from US, that I am married and that I am looking for physical intimacy with a beautiful young Indonesian woman. That way there is no question. My pics are good so they attract a lot of attention, so make sure you lead with a good pic. A lot of the women just click Interest based on the pic, so I always make sure they read the profile and get the program. Some (like the devout Islamic women) bail out after that. But if they say they read my profile", I put them in the Yes column. Then its a matter of whether or not I want to do them, not of they want to do me. Pretty amazing role reversal...[/QUOTE]You are doing amazingly well on IC Wild Wind. Good on you. You must be (and certainly are) a very well preserved 60 years old guy, probably looking at least 25 years younger than your real age (and I believe that). You are doing a lot better then me on IC and I am not doing that bad also. But you are doing lots better then me.

Many of the goodlooking and sexy girls aged between let's say 20 and 30 state in their profile that they are looking for guys in age ranges from 20's till below 40. I am 40 years old and when I send those girls messages 90% will not respond. I think my response rate on IC is about 10 to 15% and half of those that respond don't follow up on the mailings. I never reply to girls who respond first to me (send me a message or an interest) because these girls are invariably not my type. Fat or old or ugly or a combination of the three.

So for me it is not that easy to find suitable candidates on IC by far not as easy as it is for you, having said this, over the last 2 to 2 and a half month I have met about 15 girls from IC and bedded 12 of them. Of those 15 girls about 8 were (at least for me) very sexy, but most of the girls I had were not super pretty. The other 7 were just ok.

So I also have photos but I only generate interest from girls who are not my cup of tea, but you as a 60 year old get shitloads of emails from gorgeous young cuties (aged BTW 25 and 32) this is really good mate.

[QUOTE=Alpha Cue; 1448247]No taxis. Anywhere.

Alpha Cue,

You're a great writer. You have a fascinating story. We are all anxiously waiting to hear what happened.

Canyon

I've read several posts about mall-hunting, saying it's great for a mid-day treat. One post, though, said that you needed to speak Indonesian for the first contact. Has anyone had any luck with mall-hunting speaking only English? How are Atrium and Plaza Senayan for mall-hunting by an English-only speaker?

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1448876]

[QUOTE=Alpha Cue; 1448247]No taxis. Anywhere.

Alpha Cue,

You're a great writer. You have a fascinating story. We are all anxiously waiting to hear what happened.

Canyon[/QUOTE]Are you sure you are in Jakarta? No Taxis at a Mall in Jakarta, that's amazing.

RL

[QUOTE=Robert Long; 1448906]

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1448876]Are you sure you are in Jakarta? No Taxis at a Mall in Jakarta, that's amazing.

RL[/QUOTE]There is almost never a taxi at Pasaraya these days.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1448894]I've read several posts about mall-hunting, saying it's great for a mid-day treat. One post, though, said that you needed to speak Indonesian for the first contact. Has anyone had any luck with mall-hunting speaking only English? How are Atrium and Plaza Senayan for mall-hunting by an English-only speaker?[/QUOTE]I never found it easy to pick up girls in malls. And I speak fluent Indonesian. But the fact that it's hard for me is not because of the girls but because of me. For most bule it is ridiculously easy to pick up Indonesian girls in a mall. I know quite a number of bule guys who pick up a girl (or get at least one number) every time they go to a mall.

What's needed is a ready and friendly smile, good manners and confidence. You don't need to be able to speak Bahasa and you don't even need a good dress.

I know one bule who is wearing flipflops and an old singlet and shorts, this guy still picks up girls without breaking a sweat in whatever mall he goes.

I picked up girls this time, in malls 3 or 4 times but it always happened when I was not looking for one. If I go to a mall for hunting I never pick up because I become all jittery and nervous for some weird reason, and I will receive no attention whatsoever from any girl.

Mallhunting requires a certain set of skills. Many bule guys walking around in a mall will be looked at and smiled at by many girls but you have to react fast. It's very fleeting because in a second they are gone. So you have to zoom in for the kill right away. I cannot do that, I always need some time to build the courage to go up to a girl.

Once I was in my favourite mall eating an ice cream and walking around. Then I went up on the escalator to the next floor. I looked behind me and just below me was a very doable girl who beemed a smile at me. Because it took some time for the elevator to go up we talked a bit (she actually started). She was very surprised I spoke Bahasa. When we arrived on the next floor. We spoke just a bit more until the girl said she had to go somwhere. She left and I wanted to bang my head to the wall because I had not asked for her number.

As luck would have it about an hour later, I was at the exit of the mall and wanted to get a taxi, I saw her again. This time I did not forget to ask her whatsapp and the next day she was safely in my room tucked up.

Canyon buddy. .

01. Please see my various "adventures" in MALL Hunting, in the Photo Section.

02. For me, personally, the best place for Mall Hunting is. The Blok M Plasa Mall.

03. All my adventureous pictures, albeit with my old-fashion BlackBerry phone, speaks for themselves.

04. For an English-only speaker, Blok M Plasa is Okay.

05. Please do post your "hunting" results.

Ciao,

Pete33.

[QUOTE=Canyon;1448894]I've read several posts about mall-hunting, saying it's great for a mid-day treat. One post, though, said that you needed to speak Indonesian for the first contact. Has anyone had any luck with mall-hunting speaking only English? How are Atrium and Plaza Senayan for mall-hunting by an English-only speaker?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1448961]There is almost never a taxi at Pasaraya these days.[/QUOTE]Perhaps so Smoothy but as someone who has played the game in Jakarta as long as myself you will agree that the posts by Alpha Cue read like they've been lifted out of the readers' letters section of an old Husltler magazine.

And are just as believable.

[QUOTE=Pete33; 1448992]Canyon buddy. .

01. Please see my various "adventures" in MALL Hunting, in the Photo Section.

02. For me, personally, the best place for Mall Hunting is. The Blok M Plasa Mall.

03. All my adventureous pictures, albeit with my old-fashion BlackBerry phone, speaks for themselves.

04. For an English-only speaker, Blok M Plasa is Okay.

05. Please do post your "hunting" results.

Ciao,

Pete33.[/QUOTE]I never picked up a girl in Blok M plaza and I must have been there at least 300 times in my life. I don't know how you guys do it there but even if my life depended on it I could not pick up there. I never even got a single look there from any girl.

Of course it might have to do with my age, I am 40 and if you are 33 years old as your nick suggests that could explain it of course. And I speak fluent Bahasa also. Anyway I bow deep for you.

I always see bule guys getting girls in Blok M plaza however, so maybe I saw you also a couple of times there in action, for me it is not a place to find anything.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1449056]Perhaps so Smoothy but as someone who has played the game in Jakarta as long as myself you will agree that the posts by Alpha Cue read like they've been lifted out of the readers' letters section of an old Husltler magazine.

And are just as believable.[/QUOTE]I think Alpha is a great writer. I don't visit the site much but I think his posts are some of the best I've read here. And the girls he picks are high quality.

Hilo77, don't be so jealous. Just because girls don't react the same way to you doesn't mean they don't find a handsome, young guy more appealing.

And maybe also leave off the old Hustler magazines, didn't your mum ever tell you it will make you go blind?

[QUOTE=JustABule;1449096]I always see bule guys getting girls in Blok M plaza[/QUOTE]Really? I've been to Blok M plaza probably 500 times and I think I may have seen 10 bules there in all of those visits and I've never seen one with a girl. At least not with a good looking girl.

[QUOTE=Hilo77; 1448618]My word what a resourceful chap you are! You have achieved so much in your short time here in Jakarta, and on your first trip no less, senior members must be doffing their cap to you at this stage.

However, like the educated Indonesian office girl in your first report who spoke the sort of pidgin English you'd normally associate with a Pattaya bar girl, there's something just not right about your story.

So you're in a mall and you catch the eye of two delightful teenage beauties and despite having no local language skills you nonetheless have them back in your hotel room by nightfall. Well, it can be done, it has been done, I've done it myself, but it usually takes a little time adjusting to the local scene. But you on your first trip, pull this off with nothing more required than a few scoops of ice cream, well done sir, you are a credit.

So in which Blok M or Kota pick up joint did you really find them?[/QUOTE]Maybe he's a good looking young guy? Let's give the benefit of doubt and not worry too much. I know that many things are possible here and only wish I'd discovered this city when I was in my mid 20s and not in my late 30s:(. Even then, it hasn't been too difficult but I have to wonder what I could have done back then. I'm 49 this year and I can still manage women in their mid 20s to mid 30s without really trying too hard so you have to allow for the possibility for someone who is young and slim to do a lot of "damage".

[QUOTE=Robert Long; 1448906]

[QUOTE=Canyon; 1448876]Are you sure you are in Jakarta? No Taxis at a Mall in Jakarta, that's amazing.

RL[/QUOTE]Have you tried to get one at Semanggi at 10pm?

[QUOTE=WTF0506;1448781]A chubby 22yr old? Sounds like a pass unless that is what you like. I tend to over pay, but, for her 500K. Maybe a little less. Depends on the story behind her request. Photo is one that cost 600K.[/QUOTE]Was she smiling before or after the act mate:p? She looks like she'd fall right into your threesome category for some reason;).

[QUOTE=Clear Water; 1448670]Good info cheers.

Just got a reply from a chubby 22yr from IC. Specifically asked for 1 mill for short time (2hr) Thought it was a bit rich so not sure what so of prices for P4P. You other brothers are getting? Good tip to find the P4P are look under religion as Other and age 40-70 LOL.[/QUOTE]I haven't paid anyone on IC, even with similar criteria. I've come across those looking for 40+ and it's normally because they don't want childish guys. If she's asking for money, keep looking - especially at that price range.

[QUOTE=SmallBird;1448612]Har? Develop untill such status, you can still get a U-turn? Is it real? Awaiting your ending.[/QUOTE]It's a long post bro, no need to quote the whole FR. Maybe we'll meet for a coffee in KL or even Jakarta one of these days. You can feel you're in heaven but can be brought down to Earth with a real smack sometimes. I think a lot of us here have a story which goes that way sometime or another.

MD II

Yeah maybe I'm just a jealous guy who doesn't have the strike rate (or overwrought writing ability) of Alpha Cue.

Or maybe I just know egregious loads of bovine fecal matter when I smell it.

I ask you dude, look at the little trollops in the photo, no girl in Jakarta dresses like that to go the mall, none. Any girls dressed as skanky as that would be driven out of the mall by the cacophony of wolf-whistles, hoots of derision, and catcalls of "Jablay! Jablay!" that greeted them. That is if the satpam even allowed the obvious ayam in in the first place.

Hey it's no skin off my nose, if you get a good fap while reading his purple prose, enjoy it man. When I read it the title of a 1970's TV show comes to mind, now what was its name? You know a seaplane flies into a tropical paradise, this sophisticated French geezer in a white suit and his Polynesian midget friend shouting "Ze plane ees coming, ze plane ees coming!" walk down the beach to greet it.

Now what was the name of that series again? It matches Alpha Cue's writing.

[quote=Master Diver II; 1449436]Maybe he's a good looking young guy? Let's give the benefit of doubt and not worry too much. I know that many things are possible here and only wish I'd discovered this city when I was in my mid 20s and not in my late 30s. Even then, it hasn't been too difficult but I have to wonder what I could have done back then. I'm 49 this year and I can still manage women in their mid 20s to mid 30s without really trying too hard so you have to allow for the possibility for someone who is young and slim to do a lot of "damage".[/quote]Spot on MD II! I am older than you and almost certainly not as good looking, but even I have a great time. Jakarta is a wonderful town and there is plenty to go around. And long may it continue to be that way! And long may you continue to do 'damage' my friend!

As for me, when I can't get it up even with V and all girls start to reject me I hope I won't get so warped with jealousy to carry on like a pork chop at some young guy having fun with pretty girls. Jeez! Some people.

[QUOTE=JustABule;1448782]I am 40 years old and when I send those girls messages 90% will not respond. I think my response rate on IC is about 10 to 15% and half of those that respond don't follow up on the mailings.[/QUOTE]Exactly, my experience as well. Not at all like the Philippines. Its not as easy as many are saying.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1449390]Really? I've been to Blok M plaza probably 500 times and I think I may have seen 10 bules there in all of those visits and I've never seen one with a girl. At least not with a good looking girl.[/QUOTE]And that's why I've never been back to Blok M since 2006, you will only see 2 or 3 decent looking chicks out of 50 or more.

[QUOTE=David_33;1449610]Exactly, my experience as well. Not at all like the Philippines. Its not as easy as many are saying.[/QUOTE]Mate, I'm not a bule, I'm Asian; I'm not the slimmest or fattest guy, and I'm 49 years old. I don't promise riches, money or anything that I can't or won't deliver. I get a response from at least 50 % who have read their messages and several of the girls who send in interests, have been well worth a follow up. It all depends on how you structure your profile and the kind of photos you put up. I am open for most forms of electronic communication but am never pushy, nor do I put out or put up with crap. I have more numbers than I can handle (I only visit Jakarta, and don't stay there) as I just don't have the time. The key is to be fun, friendly open, but not desperate. It's as easy as you make it.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II;1449656]The key is to be fun, friendly open, but not desperate. It's as easy as you make it.[/QUOTE]Yes, JAD has mentioned how successful you are on IC. You are probably much more handsome than I am and have more than 5 hairs.

The dating sites are neither as "easy" nor as "difficult" as some posters are saying.

In exactly the same way as the malls / office water coolers / clubs / perfume squirters / universities / Busway / warungs / bars / church groups / insurance agencies / golf courses / property investment seminars / maid recruiting services* (*delete as appropriate, and yes all of the aforementioned have yielded up successes in their day) are neither as easy nor as difficult as they appear listening to others.

Full disclosure, I'm bule, mid-forties, I'm no Brad Pitt but I can hold my own in a conversation, don't come across as some desperate pervo and I dress appropriately for living in a major city.

I agree with Smoothy that time is actually quite a major element, not the time spent on the computer I hasten to add that's the least of it, but laying the essential groundwork and follow-up is time-consuming. Not as much time as it would take in the West, perish the thought, but time nonetheless that might be better spent elsewhere. You need to meet the lady for face time, that's a coffee at the least which will take an hour or so, half an hour getting there and then home again, no problem, but in Jakarta terms that's pretty much an afternoon gone and if your play time is limited that counts. There's then the follow-up texting and emails and chatting (God I do so hate chatting on the internet) till the next date which, if you've played your cards right is time to get some action. Now, that's when it all goes exactly to plan, in practice it takes a little bit longer than that.

If you have plenty of free time none of this will be remotely daunting and will appear to be a very small price to pay for fun, but if work, domestic and other constraints limit your time to maybe one afternoon or evening free every week then you're investing a lot of time for maybe not an awful lot of reward.

The internet threw up a lot of great stuff for me four or five years ago. Unquestionably the best was the late and very much lamented Love Happens which was basically Indonesian Cupid but free. I got many fantastic connections through that, from as far away as Aceh and Kalimantan. Next was Tagged, still going strong, another great service. Indonesian Cupid also threw up some gems. That was back when I was as free as a bird, now with time much more limited I prefer the bar scene, it's not as rewarding in long term relationship terms but I've currently got enough of that to be going on with.

Another draw-back to the internet is that unlike in a bar where I can see the girl with my on two eyes on the 'net ladies might not always post up the most candid of their photos and that can lead to a disappointing rendezvous.

You pays your money and takes your choice, you want the possibility of multiple relationships with nice respectable women and have plenty of time to spend and no worry about having to weed out duffers along the way? The internet dating sites are for you. Haven't time to fart around, going out for dinner, texting about your day, chatting about work and families and just want to have a few hours sex with a pretty girl? Well that's what God invented bars for.

I totally agree with Hilo77. The only time I've seen girls left a building, dressed that way, was late at night at the exit of Shangrila's. Obviously ones without success at BATS.

[QUOTE=David_33;1449669]Yes, JAD has mentioned how successful you are on IC. You are probably much more handsome than I am and have more than 5 hairs.[/QUOTE]You're right David. I'm sorry to confirm that he is more handsome than you and has more than 5 hairs. Even when he posts a bad hair day photo of him, the girls will respond.

Como estas amigo? Long time no see!

[QUOTE=Menteng;1449896]I totally agree with Hilo77. The only time I've seen girls left a building, dressed that way, was late at night at the exit of Shangrila's. Obviously ones without success at BATS.[/QUOTE]Me too fully agree with Hilo77, I had the same experience

Much is said about dating sites. The pretty up to average looking girls on dating sites (Indonesian girls) get as many as 200 messages a day. They scan the list of emails and 90% (or more) of them only reply the ones who look young and / or who have an attractive picture.

Sometimes they are bored or have time and then they do a search for guys. The same happens again, they scan the list of pictures and only reply those profiles of which they like the picture. They will hardly ever read profiles because that is boring.

So the pretty / sexy and normal looking girls will make their decision to reply or send a message based on the picture in the profile.

The ugly / fat / old women do it differently. Those girls maybe get 2 or 3 messages per day so they will be very active searching for guys to send messages to. These girls don't look for handsome pictures but they send messages to guys they think they have a chance with. So they will mostly select profiles with ugly or unattractive looking pictures, again they also will not read the profile (most can't even understand English anyway) but they will make their decision based on the picture.

But girls like mysterious guys. I have a profile picture on DIA and I think I look ok, but I never get more then 6 messages a week. 4 from Philippina girls looking for money (the so called Hi girls) and 2 from old Indonesian women living in Kalimantan, or Riau, Pekanbaru, or Irian Jaya.

I have a French friend who is 49 years old and he did not put a photo on his profile in DIA, (also stating location in Indonesia) and the only description he gives is Hello. Still this guy attracts much more attention from local girls then I get, and many young sexy girls send him messages also. Last month he had not openned his inbox for a week and then he opened his inbox and showed me the mails. I was shocked.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1449436]Maybe he's a good looking young guy? Let's give the benefit of doubt and not worry too much. I know that many things are possible here and only wish I'd discovered this city when I was in my mid 20s and not in my late 30s. Even then, it hasn't been too difficult but I have to wonder what I could have done back then. I'm 49 this year and I can still manage women in their mid 20s to mid 30s without really trying too hard so you have to allow for the possibility for someone who is young and slim to do a lot of "damage".

MD II[/QUOTE]Slim and young is not a guarantee for succes. I been in Jakarta on and off since I was 23 years old, I loved (and still love) to go to gym to stay in perfect shape and in those days I had a very good physique. Still now when I am 40 I keep my sixpack.

But I noticed already long ago that Asian girls prefer western guys who are out of shape (overweight) over Western guys who are slim or muscled. I don't know the exact reasons for this but many yearsr of experience (and being around overweight bule who always did much better then me) taught me this.

I now do better with Jakarta girls then I did when I was young, but still I don't get nearly as many girls as the average bule in Jakarta gets.

One thing that Indonesian girls love are tall guys. The tall guys have the biggest advantage, they don't need to be slim or handsome or young, if you are tall you can get any girl you want. Nowadays the new generation (especially Chinese) guys are also getting very tall but it is still seen as special in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1450264]Slim and young is not a guarantee for succes. I been in Jakarta on and off since I was 23 years old, I loved (and still love) to go to gym to stay in perfect shape and in those days I had a very good physique. Still now when I am 40 I keep my sixpack.

But I noticed already long ago that Asian girls prefer western guys who are out of shape (overweight) over Western guys who are slim or muscled. I don't know the exact reasons for this but many yearsr of experience (and being around overweight bule who always did much better then me) taught me this.

I now do better with Jakarta girls then I did when I was young, but still I don't get nearly as many girls as the average bule in Jakarta gets.

One thing that Indonesian girls love are tall guys. The tall guys have the biggest advantage, they don't need to be slim or handsome or young, if you are tall you can get any girl you want. Nowadays the new generation (especially Chinese) guys are also getting very tall but it is still seen as special in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]I do agree with the love of height. But when so many of the girls are around 150cm, a lot of people are tall to them. It matters more to the girls who are 165cm+. Nonetheless, I don't really know what kind of bule the girls prefer, as I'm not one; what I generally see is that the girls with the overweight bules, are with them for the size of their back pocket - not the muscle in the front:p. Perhaps we'll just agree to disagree bro? As a whole though, even when casually dressed, it pays to be presentable. A lot of these office ladies (and businesswomen) meeting you after work for coffee or a drink don't want to feel embarrassed sitting next to a slob - especially if their friends might be around. That goes whether you're in Social, Loewy's, Potato Head, Starbucks, the Hyatt cafe in Plaza Indonesia or even a simple cafe. Oh and if they bring along a gay friend, NEVER [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] him off. He can be your greatest ally or your worst enemy.

Does what I say matter? Not a whit. In the end we all find the method that suits us best and tend to repeat the formula. Newbies, just try everything until you find what works for you. Hell I went around the whole of Jakarta (well I've been with Jad from Ancol and Kelapa Gading to Pondok Indah to Bekasi and halfway to Bandung) before settling into my current routine. Even then I wish I had more time to explore several possibilities. Is there ever enough time? I've met women from so many different walks of life here (students, clerical workers, secretaries, executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, waitresses, TV hosts, shop assistants, nurses, accountants and more) and all I've discovered is that I'm addicted to them - aren't we all?;) :D

MD II

I just stayed in Jakarta 4 nights during Ramadan, here is a short summary of the findings of a Nordic bule.

1. Friday 26. 7.

After a veeeeeeeeery long trip from home checked in to Pullman hotel next to Plaza Indonesia late at night. I was pretty tired but decided to check Bats since it is close to Pullman hotel. I arrived to Bats around 23. 30, paid 120k IDR entrance fee and jumped in. The bar was almost ful, many girls, few guys. Clearly a buyers market. There were no stunners to my eye but several doable girls. After few drinks it was almost 01. 00 in the morning and the bar closed. Some girls headed to Stadium and asked me to join. I kindly refused the offer. On my way up I met 3 girls in the stairs and had a chat. All looked OK, one with bigger boobs, one with very cute face and the third had a lean figure. Aged 23-25 years I would guess. I ended up with all 3 in my hotel room, LOL. We had such a fun and having sex with 3 girls was worth the long journey. Such a nice tight pussies those girls had. The faces of the security guys were memorable when I escorted the birds out. Total damage 2Million. Quite a perky start for my holiday.

2. Saturday 27. 7.

In the evening I jumped in a taxi and headed to Blok M. I arrived in front of Top Gun in a black Mercedes Silver Bird taxi around 21. 00. The street was dark and I did not have good vibes from the place. I had some dinner in Maxis bar first and then checked the others. All of the bars were quite empty with handful of jaded hookers inside. The one with the best boogie was Top Gun. It was actually almost full. Many girs but none really lit my fire. Somehow I managed to spot a slim girl with big rack in a tight T-shirt. Not the prettiest one but one of the best bodies around. We chatted a while. She told me she had a 3 months old baby, I asked if It was deliberate. The answer was no, she was with a client and the condom broke. What a shit luck. She said the father could be anyone, maybe indianand laughed. I did not know whether to laugh or cry. Decided to leave Blok M and took a taxi to Mulia and CJ's.

CJ's is a place to my taste. More of a nightclub than Bats and there were quite a few pretty, well dressed girls. Maybe a bit younger crowd than in Bats generally. In the sidebar I saw an absolute cutie. 25, with red dress and a body to die for (C / D cups natural). After a round of drinks we headed to my hotel with her car. She left 9. 00 in the morning after second round. This is what I Iove about Asia. Taking a nice girl to your hotel, have round one, then order some food from room service. Chat, go to sleep and wake up with the morning glory and put your stiff cock into a tight pussy and pump like there is no tomorrow.

3. Sunday 28. 7.

A day of rest, no mongering activities.

4. Monday 29. 7.

I visit to Jakarta is not complete without a spa experience. I chose Malioboro since is it quite close to Pullman hotel. I went in quite early around 20. 00. The club was dead but the spa was full of girls. I went in first in the winebar, local indo girls. 450k for a session. The girls were all young, one mega-spinner with ample bust caught my attention. But decided to wait further andwent to lounge. Well this place was full of girls and only some asian punters. Most of the babes were indos, some nice viets and a handful of PCR, not really attractive IMO. Some of the dancers were pretty hot. I was thinking between a nice small dancer and the spinner from Wine bar. Went with the Wine bar girl. 22 years and one of the tiniest bodies I have ever fucked with great firm B cup breats that looked big in her tiny frame. What a session, she was energetic and fucked nicely.

After the first round I went to the club and was lured to buy some lady drinks for the dancers. I knew about this "scam" but went for it for maybe 10 drinks. Some of the dancers were nice but all of them do not go to the room. One busty 17 year old was only available for blow job for 1, 3 M. No thanks.

I decided to have a second round and chose a slim indo girl with nice B cup rack. Also a great fuck and I was happy for the evening and left with both barrels emply. Nice place with nice girls even though I prefer the bar pick up scene.

Jakarta offers plenty of naughty activities even during Ramadan but I would not go there, or any other muslim country, again during this holy month. Too painful to get a beer in some bars and also most of the bars close early.

I recommend to book a good hotel with room service. The girls seemed to enjoy eating after sex in the night during Ramadan.

Next stop Bali.

Cheers,

Kepp

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1450474]I've met women from so many different walks of life here (students, clerical workers, secretaries, executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, waitresses, TV hosts, shop assistants, nurses, accountants and more) and all I've discovered is that I'm addicted to them. Aren't we all. .

MD II[/QUOTE]I never had any executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, TV hosts and accountants. I must honestly say that all the Indonesian girls I had in my 20 years in Jakarta (maybe 150 all) were all simple girls mostly working in low paying jobs or jobless. I had a few secretaries, I had shop assistants, I had hairdressers and waitresses and girls in other equally simple professions.

And I never had a really beautiful girl. 80% of the girls I have had were not pretty and not sexy at all (probably below average looking for both bule and certainly for Indonesian people) , only maybe 20% were ok looking but never beautiful or really sexy, just normal looking.

No Master Diver (you are a real master) the quality of girls you had was much higher then what I ever had, and I was already in Jakarta since I was 20 years of age.

This is my honest experience in Jakarta in 20 years I am humble before you and I bow deep, very deep.

Am in Jakarta now for the next 10 Days.

Very quite now all spas are closed if they do not have Hotel License.

Staying in Kota so all the good places like.

Kartika, Berlian, Oasis, Olympic, Cherry, Bintang Mawar are all closed.

The big ones like Travel, Classic, Stadium, Sun City, Alexis, Kings Cross, Malioboro and still open.

Brothel location in Kota still, but All the Girls in 2 Maxi Cab for easy getaway in case Muslim Brotherhood arrive.

Also some very young girls still walking around Lokasari Complex area.

Good if can speak Ethinic Chinese Hakanese.

Also in Blok M D's, Top Gun, My Place still open.

The very quite but Top Gun very busy around midnight.

Hey gentlemen!

27 year old lover of traveling, party, and slaying exotic women!

I am planning a 2 week stay in Jakarta after my 2 month Philippines trip. Seems kinda daunting in the planning phase with just how big Jakarta is and all the different nightlife spots to choice from.

The first order of business is locking down the main spots I want to go to at night.

I like to go to places that play hiphop / top40 with a large amount of easy women where I can get my dance on and pull a girl back to my hotel.

That is just my ideal place. I go where ever the pussy is at the end of the day. So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.

X2.

Drangonfly.

CJ's.

Bats.

Redsquare

Stadium.

Immigrant.

999.

Top Gun.

Memories.

Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?

Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic. From a brief search I compiled this info.

Le Margot hotel at jln Jaksa.

Fiducia hotels chain

Ri'z guest house in Asam baris raya.

Shop around Mangga Dua, you can find these new budget hotels at Gunung Sahari-Kramat Raya-Salemba area.

Jalan Jaksa

Or daily rented room (Kos) around 150K per day. Located in Setia budi / Kuningan / Karet area, it's located in the CBD and within your budget.

You may look Graha Wisata Kuningan (excelent location near sport center) or Graha Wisaha ragunan (near the Zoo)

If you go to Jalan Pramuka in Jakarta Pusat, you will get some cheap clean and affordble hotel. I used to in Puri Mega hotel in Pramuka.

I need to locate a cheap place that is close to where I will be going at night. Also need to be close to malls to meet girls during the day.

Sorry for the long post! Any and all advice & recommendations will be much appreciated. Expect a nice trip report and a video for repayment!

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1452777]<snip

And I never had a really beautiful girl. 80% of the girls I have had were not pretty and not sexy at all (probably below average looking for both bule and certainly for Indonesian people) , only maybe 20% were ok looking but never beautiful or really sexy, just normal looking.[/QUOTE]I don't get it, scrolling back to this post from Bandung, just one month ago:

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1438863]<snip

Gambir station is as boring as they come. I sat down on a bench opposite the small starbucks and noticed a gorgeous young girl sitting at a table outside drinking a coffee. We exchanged some looks and she smiled, God was she cute. Braces and contactlenzes, I decided to join her, so I had a little chitchat with her and got a coffee. Then I went back to sit with her and we talked. Turned out she was also going to Bandung on the same train as me.

She was a 100% Sundanese, white skin, big eyes and as cute as a button, just 20 years old. I told her I would be staying at the Golden Flower hotel, I didn't tell her. About my friend.

<snip

Around 8pm I messaged the girl who I had met in the Station but she only replied around 9pm excusing herself that she had just woken up and that's why she replied so late. I asked her if she wanted to come over to the hotel, I had given her the address already before on the train and she was staying about 15 minutes from there, she told me to wait. I went to the lobby and sat down in a chair near the entrance. As soon as she came in I secretly ushered her to the elevator (I hope the staff did not notice) and we went up to the room. Within one minute we were kissing like crazy and after that I undressed her and sucked and licked the living daylights out of her. My god this girl also had a great body, she was only 20 so everything was still really firm and trim and tight, just like I love it. Beautiful big boobs on a very slim frame. I started to lick her pussy and clitty and after 5 minutes she came screaming. After that I fucked her (when I was texting her I was afraid I would not be able to get it up but my fears were totally unfounded I was horny as hell and as hard as a rock). It took a real long time before I came and before I came she came once again.

<snip[/QUOTE]Was that a fantasy?

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1452777]I never had any executives, bankers, lawyers, businesswomen, models, actresses, stewardesses, TV hosts and accountants. I must honestly say that all the Indonesian girls I had in my 20 years in Jakarta (maybe 150 all) were all simple girls mostly working in low paying jobs or jobless. I had a few secretaries, I had shop assistants, I had hairdressers and waitresses and girls in other equally simple professions.

And I never had a really beautiful girl. 80% of the girls I have had were not pretty and not sexy at all (probably below average looking for both bule and certainly for Indonesian people) , only maybe 20% were ok looking but never beautiful or really sexy, just normal looking.[/QUOTE]I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives. 80% were Chinese. 20% were still virgin and could only accept anything else beside FS. 80% of them were good looking or at least above average, including some beautiful ones. The eldest was perhaps a 41 year old businesswoman while the youngest 20 year old first year student.

So I would think it really depends on individuals and their types.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1452845]Hey gentlemen!

27 year old lover of traveling, party, and slaying exotic women!

I am planning a 2 week stay in Jakarta after my 2 month Philippines trip. Seems kinda daunting in the planning phase with just how big Jakarta is and all the different nightlife spots to choice from.

The first order of business is locking down the main spots I want to go to at night.

I like to go to places that play hiphop / top40 with a large amount of easy women where I can get my dance on and pull a girl back to my hotel.

That is just my ideal place. I go where ever the pussy is at the end of the day. So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.

X2.

Drangonfly.

CJ's.

Bats.

Redsquare

Stadium.

Immigrant.

999.

Top Gun.

Memories.

Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?

Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic. From a brief search I compiled this info.

Le Margot hotel at jln Jaksa.

Fiducia hotels chain

Ri'z guest house in Asam baris raya.

Shop around Mangga Dua, you can find these new budget hotels at Gunung Sahari-Kramat Raya-Salemba area.

Jalan Jaksa

Or daily rented room (Kos) around 150K per day. Located in Setia budi / Kuningan / Karet area, it's located in the CBD and within your budget.

You may look Graha Wisata Kuningan (excelent location near sport center) or Graha Wisaha ragunan (near the Zoo)

If you go to Jalan Pramuka in Jakarta Pusat, you will get some cheap clean and affordble hotel. I used to in Puri Mega hotel in Pramuka.

I need to locate a cheap place that is close to where I will be going at night. Also need to be close to malls to meet girls during the day.

Sorry for the long post! Any and all advice & recommendations will be much appreciated. Expect a nice trip report and a video for repayment![/QUOTE]If you RTFF'd, you'd soon discover that staying in one of the backpacker style places on Jalan Jaksa may reduce your chances of pulling a girl from one of the top end bars such as CJ's or BATS. Even the girls in Blok M may be reluctant to go there with you. There are some girls working Jalan Jaksa but for the most part you're looking at the lower end of the available girls in Jakarta.

If your budget for housing is USD 20-30 per night, then you may be in trouble! Try to boost your budget up to $40 or $50 a night if you can. RTFF and you'll learn about web sites that will help you find decent housing in that range. I also hope that you have money in your budget for "taxi money" for the ladies.

There is no one ideal location to stay at that is close to all the mongering places, as the mongering scene is pretty spread out between Kota in the north and Blok M and Kemang in the south. One suggestion would be to stay somewhere near the Jalan Sudirman to Jalan Hayam Wuruk north-south corridor (the route travelled by Route 1 of the Transjakarta busline).

Look forward to reading your field reports.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1452845]So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.

X2.

Drangonfly.

CJ's.

Bats.

Redsquare

Stadium.

Immigrant.

Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE]Followed by.

Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic..[/QUOTE]Mate, the birds in places like Dragonfly spend more on one drink than you will be paying for a night's accommodation. If you ask them nicely though they might let you sleep in their servants' quarters along with their drivers and gardeners, probably nicer than the flop-houses you're intending to stay at.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1453018]If you RTFF'd, you'd soon discover that staying in one of the backpacker style places on Jalan Jaksa may reduce your chances of pulling a girl from one of the top end bars such as CJ's or BATS. Even the girls in Blok M may be reluctant to go there with you. There are some girls working Jalan Jaksa but for the most part you're looking at the lower end of the available girls in Jakarta.

If your budget for housing is USD 20-30 per night, then you may be in trouble! Try to boost your budget up to $40 or $50 a night if you can. RTFF and you'll learn about web sites that will help you find decent housing in that range. I also hope that you have money in your budget for "taxi money" for the ladies.

There is no one ideal location to stay at that is close to all the mongering places, as the mongering scene is pretty spread out between Kota in the north and Blok M and Kemang in the south. One suggestion would be to stay somewhere near the Jalan Sudirman to Jalan Hayam Wuruk north-south corridor (the route travelled by Route 1 of the Transjakarta busline).

Look forward to reading your field reports.[/QUOTE]I just realized I am budgeting 30usd a night for my entire trip (Philippines, Thailand, and Indonesia). In Philippines and Bangkok I'll be paying 20 USD a night so I will have extra money left over to swing into my Jakarta logistics budget. Should be able to easily do 40usd a night if my math is correct. Which 40 dollar hotel do you recommend as being the best location wise and bang for your buck?

How much is a fair amount of money to give a girl for a taxi ride in the morning?

I am not really a monger. Just a mid 20 something guy that loves to go out, party, dance, and pickup women. I suppose I might better tell the women I meet that I don't pay for sex, and don't have the money even if I did.

Yea, first order of business will be locating where I want to spend my nights partying. Will try to get that sorted out today. Alot of the forums and sites are not telling me the type of music and scene all these places are that I mentioned above. I prefer a crossover club over the clubs that play techno and house. But when it comes down to it though, ill have to go where the most easy women can be located.

Already have a decent google document on Jakarta. Going to spend the next hour or so reading this thread and the hotel thread.

Thanks for the reply and info. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Shuga; 1452970]I don't get it, scrolling back to this post from Bandung, just one month ago:

Was that a fantasy?[/QUOTE]Actually she was very cute, and probably one of the prettiest girls I ever had in Jakarta, same goes for the girl that was on course in Bandung. Both of them I had within 24 hours and they are both in terms of sexyness and looks in the top 10 of girls I had in Jakarta. The girl I met in Gambir, she told me she was a DJ in some new place in Bandung but I never got to figure out where the place was and I long since forgot the name of the place. She also was still a student (so I indeed got a student too)

So luckily it was no fantasy, but most of the girls I have gotten in the many years I stayed in Indonesia were just very average looking. When I was really young (just under 20 years of age) I came to Jakarta because my father with whom I was staying got a job there, at the time I studied in Holland and I could continue the study (albeit in a different fashion) at one of the universities in Jakarta where I graduated one year later. It took me some time to adapt and get used to the country but in no time I was able to speak Indonesian.

At the time I was studying I was very young and I did not really appreciate the beauty of Indonesian females, I actually got a bule girlfriend when I was stuyding in Jakarta and we were together for about 2 years, so in my first 2 years in Jakarta I did not look for nor sleep with any Indonesian girls.

We both started to work for the same company after we finished (her dad's company actually)

Maybe if I had done things differently and had been looking for Indonesian girls from the start things would have gone totally different, but for some reason it went past me. WE however did go to Tanamour and JJ's later on occasion and of course I noticed what was going on between the bule guys and Indonesian girls there, but I knew the score (most of it was about money because I was not that naive). In retrorespect (when I try to get back the feeling I had in those days) I must have been happy with her so I think I did the right thing.

When we broke up I was miserable for a while and after that I moved to Bandung for a year. There I got my first taste of Indonesian girls, but again I was a kind of faithful type. After having a few hookers in North Sea (it was with the North Sea girls that I lost my virginity with Indonesian girls) I found a (quite beautiful and sexy actually) Sundanese girl with whom I stayed for almost the whole year I was in Bandung. I was very poor at that time because I had lost my job (and was without income) and staying in the grottiest and dirtiest losmen one can imagine. But she sticked with me even when (after about 6 months in bandung) my money was finished. I did work in Bandung but the salary was too low to make ends meet (the money from my salary was finished in a week).

That's also why I maybe only had 150 or at the most 200 girls in 20 years, which boils down to on average less then one girl per month because most of the time I was having a girlfriend and I seem to be very faithfull if I have one. The first 15 years in Jakarta and Indonesia I might only have had 40 girls or so!

Only the last couple of years (and during a few periods when I was young and single) I would take some girls sometimes. I only started to use dating sites about 5 or so years ago and since then I have started to change girls more often.

I've never been good at picking up girls in malls. Up until recently I might have had only 2 pickups in malls, but the last couple of months I managed to get 3 girls from a mall, but I am still very bad at picking up girls in malls, when they smile at me (and look back when they passed me indicating they are really interested) I don't react and walk back and start a conversation but I just walk on. It's horrible I know but that's me. I am also a kinda shy guy mostly. Sometimes I feel very comfortable (for instance when I was in Gambir going to meet the girl in Bandung) then I am able to start talking to girls and be funny and witty and yeah then I can pull quite easily but these occasions are quite rare actually, within no time (maybe a week or 2 weeks something happens) and I lose confidence again.

In hindsight, when I was young, especially the first 2 years in Jakarta I of course got to know many (local) girls and women from the higher echelons of the (in the Suharto era) society of Jakarta. I had a bule girlfriend but we got to know many (indonesian and Chinese-Indonesian) students and they introduced me to their circle of friends and contacts. (we stayed in touch with many of them after graduation) When I had wanted it in those days I could have bedded many rich (from their parents) and beautiful Chinese indo girls and some models and whatnot, and I knew many were interested in me. But I just was not into them really for some reason and I don't know why, maybe I was scared or just too much in love with my girlfriend (who was always guarding me like a hawk by the way) because she knew what was going on better then I did.

Anyway now I am 40 and somehow the past always comes back to haunt me, it is like I want to make up for all the time I missed (the best years where I could have had the best girls because I was young and because I could easily get in touch with them because of my circle of friends) but it is not possible anymore, I don't have the guts nor the youth to pull the women I actually want to pull.

Acutally the last 4 weeks I had only one girl because I have a new girlfriend again since about one month

[QUOTE=Euremia; 1452973]I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives. 80% were Chinese. 20% were still virgin and could only accept anything else beside FS. 80% of them were good looking or at least above average, including some beautiful ones. The eldest was perhaps a 41 year old businesswoman while the youngest 20 year old first year student.

So I would think it really depends on individuals and their types.[/QUOTE]I really like the young (or a bit older) and beautiful and well kept Chinese Indonesian type of girl, I am a bule but I am more into white skinned Indonesian girls then the dark skinned types. Where do you meet them? Plaza Indonesia, the Internet or maybe at parties?

I think it is really hard to pull them, they are (in my opinion) quite snobby and not easy to approach but maybe I am wrong. Anyway I never managed to get one.

Acutally I am confused about them because I knew some (not very well looking and quite down and out) Western guys who told me (and showed me evidence) that they had pulled many hot Chinese Indonesian girls.

Not long ago I met an old (overweight) Arab guy (who is missing quite some teeth) who told me his favourite hunting ground is Plaza Indonesia for it's rich and beautiful Chinese Indonesian or rich Indonesian girls and women, he told me he pulls many hot rich girls there. First I was nodding and saying yeah to him (thinking these are the ramblings of an old lonely and drunk guy). But then he showed me irrifutable evidence and I was more confused then ever. How can a 65 year old fat overweight and nearly toothles Arab guy pull that kind of girls. He told me his strategy.

So the next day I went to PI and sat down where he sits and gets his women, and ofcourse nothing happened, no chance no nothing, so I went home desilusioned even more.

I have a gf but I seem to still be looking for something.

[QUOTE=Euremia;1452973]I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives.[/QUOTE]I limit my mongering to girls who are rocket scientists.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1452845]Hey gentlemen!

27 year old lover of traveling, party, and slaying exotic women!

I am planning a 2 week stay in Jakarta after my 2 month Philippines trip. Seems kinda daunting in the planning phase with just how big Jakarta is and all the different nightlife spots to choice from.

The first order of business is locking down the main spots I want to go to at night.

I like to go to places that play hiphop / top40 with a large amount of easy women where I can get my dance on and pull a girl back to my hotel.

That is just my ideal place. I go where ever the pussy is at the end of the day. So far here is a list I compiled of potential places of interest.

Seems like Bats is pretty ideal. What do you guys recommend?

Also, with such a long trip I will be on a budget so I need to find the cheapest acceptable lodging possible. My budget for lodging is 20-30usd a night. Seems Jakarta is rather expensive and finding a clean, basic room with a / see and hot water is problematic. From a brief search I compiled this info.

I need to locate a cheap place that is close to where I will be going at night. Also need to be close to malls to meet girls during the day.

Sorry for the long post! Any and all advice & recommendations will be much appreciated. Expect a nice trip report and a video for repayment![/QUOTE]I note that you're 27, may I assume that you're good looking? MS is right, you'll have to be someone very attractive to the girls to pull one back to a Jalan Jaksa lodging. The chances of pulling a "civilian" in CJs is very slim. I do know a few who do go there but they're not easy to get. There's a higher chance in BATS but still, the chances are they are working girls who will ask for at least twice (probably more) the cost of your accommodation budget. Dragonfly, Immigrant, X2, Red Square are all potentials but not easy - especially when they find out where you're staying. Dragonfly also has something of a dress policy. Take note that there is also P4P available (very pricey) in these places albeit less obviously so, and the price you're going to pay in drinks in any of the aforementioned places will easily outstrip your accommodation budget by the time you even feel the slightest buzz. To me, your best bet is to hit the bars of Kemang (like 999) and target the student and young affluent crowd. Drinks are much cheaper and you'll be more of a novelty. The main issue will be that quite a lot of the crowd have their own cliques which you'll need to break into. The potential is there though and if I was your age, that's where I'd be. Your biggest barrier will be your accommodation however - do try and do something about that. Good luck mate.

MD II

[QUOTE=JustABule; 1452777]No Master Diver (you are a real master) the quality of girls you had was much higher then what I ever had, and I was already in Jakarta since I was 20 years of age.

This is my honest experience in Jakarta in 20 years I am humble before you and I bow deep, very deep.[/QUOTE]I've been in and about Jakarta since 2003 and started to move into the dating market around 2005. I've been almost fully in the dating market since 2008 (barring a few occurrences when my other brain was doing the thinking). I've not done anything extraordinary, I'm sure many others have had similar experiences. Maybe we'll catch up for a drink one of these days and have a chat and reminisce.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1453168]I limit my mongering to girls who are rocket scientists.[/QUOTE]ROFLMFAO.

[QUOTE=Euremia; 1452973]I myself have had around 50 girls in Jakarta in the last 2 years and more than 90% of them were civilian, including doctors, bankers, bank clerks, businesswomen, executive secretaries, finance chief, models, designers, teachers at international schools, office girls, students, housewives. 80% were Chinese. 20% were still virgin and could only accept anything else beside FS. 80% of them were good looking or at least above average, including some beautiful ones. The eldest was perhaps a 41 year old businesswoman while the youngest 20 year old first year student.

So I would think it really depends on individuals and their types.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with this albeit I haven't found quite as many virgins (a total of five and I can guarantee that two of those aren't virgins anymore) and I would say in my case the mix is maybe 25% Chinese and the rest either mixed or Malay. I have had some stunners but my current preference is for the "attractive girl next door" which I have to say seems to have yielded the most fun by far. I have almost fallen in love a couple of times, and it's still painful when some of the girls move on and get married. Yes I've been warned by JAD many a time, but it's difficult to advise an addict.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1453172]I note that you're 27, may I assume that you're good looking? MS is right, you'll have to be someone very attractive to the girls to pull one back to a Jalan Jaksa lodging. The chances of pulling a "civilian" in CJs is very slim. I do know a few who do go there but they're not easy to get. There's a higher chance in BATS but still, the chances are they are working girls who will ask for at least twice (probably more) the cost of your accommodation budget. Dragonfly, Immigrant, X2, Red Square are all potentials but not easy. Especially when they find out where you're staying. Dragonfly also has something of a dress policy. Take note that there is also P4P available (very pricey) in these places albeit less obviously so, and the price you're going to pay in drinks in any of the aforementioned places will easily outstrip your accommodation budget by the time you even feel the slightest buzz. To me, your best bet is to hit the bars of Kemang (like 999) and target the student and young affluent crowd. Drinks are much cheaper and you'll be more of a novelty. The main issue will be that quite a lot of the crowd have their own cliques which you'll need to break into. The potential is there though and if I was your age, that's where I'd be. Your biggest barrier will be your accommodation however. Do try and do something about that. Good luck mate.

MD II[/QUOTE]How much is entrance and a price of a local beer at the main places people go to? (X2, Bats, Redsquare etc).

Seems I will have to smart with my nights out to avoided over spending. Will only have a budget of 40 dollars a day for food / fun.

Good intel on Kemang. Wonder if there is any dance clubs there playing top40.

I just made a map of all the nightlife areas and it appears Plaza Indonesia is the central most point.

Appears the most northern venue of note is Stadium and the most southern venue of note is Club 999.

How long and pricey of a trek is it from Plaza Indonesia area to the above clubs?

Hearing a story that Jokowi (mayor of Jakarta) is looking to ban working girls from top hotels in the city.

Does that mean that CJ's, Bats, etc will soon be empty?

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1453277]I just made a map of all the nightlife areas and it appears Plaza Indonesia is the central most point.

Appears the most northern venue of note is Stadium and the most southern venue of note is Club 999.

How long and pricey of a trek is it from Plaza Indonesia area to the above clubs?[/QUOTE]I did look on Agoda as a matter of curiosity and found a few acceptable places to stay in the USD30-40 price range (my search was for the start of September) so you might be able to fit it into your budget. If your target is clearly on pick ups, may I suggest you that you really work out your logistics and locate yourself to minimise your travel costs. If you're looking top40, I wouldn't have thought that Stadium is the place to go to. Stick with the Kemang clubs and find a kost type of hotel / residence nearby. There's plenty of food in Kemang and the only downside is that you're a distance away from the shopping malls like Grand Indonesia / Plaza Indonesia / Pacific Place. There are still a few malls within reach to arrange your rendezvous with various girls so you're still good. You need to research the clubs in the area and target accordingly. I don't think that BATS / X2 / Red square will be on your radar unless you're able to boost your budget.

My advice is to hit the dating sites and line them up to meet for coffee / lunch / tea and work it from there. Budget to go to clubs maybe two/three nights a week and relax with the girls on the other nights. Then you'll stay well within your financial limits. The difference between the price of drinks in a nice club in Kemang and somewhere like CJs / BATS is huge (I remember a bottle costing something like half the price you'd pay in CJs / BATS). If you find the right club, buy a bottle of vodka / whisky (or whatever) and go easy. That bottle will buy you a few free entrances to the club. You'll just have to buy the mixers after you get in. Be wary that you might get stuck buying a long Island Iced Tea sooner or later. It's almost inevitable. I've been busy dating rather than clubbing of late (I'm getting a bit too old to be out clubbing) ; I'm more interested in the bedroom activities than the clubbing, but the occasional outing can be fun enough. I hope that that helps with your budget and enjoyment.

Good luck with your research.

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1453385]I did look on Agoda as a matter of curiosity and found a few acceptable places to stay in the USD30-40 price range (my search was for the start of September) so you might be able to fit it into your budget. If your target is clearly on pick ups, may I suggest you that you really work out your logistics and locate yourself to minimise your travel costs. If you're looking top40, I wouldn't have thought that Stadium is the place to go to. Stick with the Kemang clubs and find a kost type of hotel / residence nearby. There's plenty of food in Kemang and the only downside is that you're a distance away from the shopping malls like Grand Indonesia / Plaza Indonesia / Pacific Place. There are still a few malls within reach to arrange your rendezvous with various girls so you're still good. You need to research the clubs in the area and target accordingly. I don't think that BATS / X2 / Red square will be on your radar unless you're able to boost your budget...[/QUOTE]How much would a taxi from Plaza Indonesia to Stadium and from Plaza Indonesia to Kemang cost? Also how many minutes. 30-40?

I plan to set up at least 1 date a day through online. I won't be buying any bottles. I just stick to cheap domestic beer.

Top Gun and Red Square look fun. CJ's and BATs seems like a place to go any see if I can get a hot girl to take a night off from work LOL Also have to check out Immigrant, X2, and the Stadium at least once. Along with the scene at Jl Jaksa.

I should have extra funds to break out if need be, but def looking to keep things within a 70-80 a day budget.