Immoral acts? In Dubai? Please!
Jade Warrior[quote]How is it, right smack dab in a sea of conservative Islam, the U.A.E. seems to offer debaucheries on the scale of Caligula's court?[/Quote]
You hit the nail on the head forum-mate. Nothing, and I do mean [b]nothing[/b] ever happens in DXB unless it is within the moral context of a conservative Islamic nation.
The UAE, and Dubai in particular, are very progressive, and tolerant. They seek to find the perfect balance between a good business climate and respecting traditional values and culture.
As a visitor to Dubai, I am constantly impressed with the world-class facilities, combined with traditional Arab hospitality. My hosts in the UAE have always been welcoming and considerate. They tolerate, with a smile and efficiency, the various visitors to DXB, wherever they come from.
If anything immoral is taking place in DXB, it is an exception, just like you would find in any major city worldwide.
[i]That is my story, and I am sticking to it.[/i]
Sporadic
Ps. Like all good humor, (and I do not claim to be capable of even poor humor) there is more than a little truth in what I wrote.
Think about it.
United00: Check the "Posts of distinction" for the answers to all your dreams.
(hey, sounds nicer than RTFF!) Glad to see that Bravo is back on the job!
No criticism of you, Mike De H, just using your experience as a teaching tool
[quote=Mike De H]...I checked into the renowned Astoria Hotel. Mistake numero uno![/quote]Renowned? Astoria? Just proves the wisdom of doing a bit of research before arriving (or checking your sources...)
[quote=Mike De H]In TGI Thursdays, these Asian Tigresses are on the loose. You cant get rid of them.[/quote]Yes, some can be persistent. SOMETIMES, it does take a rude answer. But in my personal experience, a [b]sincere[/b] "No thank you, you'll just lose time" does work; after all, they are businesswomen.
[quote=Mike De H]The taxi drive was peculiar because she sat as far away from me as she could on the back seat. Her English was limited but good enough and eventually before arriving at the Hotel she went in for a little adventurous handholding.[/quote]As long as it's "only the taxi", I don't have a problem with that. Public displays of affection can attract the unwanted attention of LE. Better to act like a married couple - married for 20 years.
Besides, I figure why rub it in the face of the taxi [u]driver[/u]... who is NEVER going to be able to afford her. Think he might get a little resentful of what he sees in his rear-view mirror? Enough to make a complaint to LE? Paranoid? No doubt. But I figure the "lower ranks" do get treated like crap here, and I'm surprised more of them don't just snap.
[quote=Mike De H]On arrival, being “smart” I sent her to my room first past reception. I went in behind and got the key. Unfortunately the African security guard, who was very apologetic about interrupting “my pleasure” had nabbed the girl and told her to sit down.[/quote]Very few hotels allow unaccompanied girls to roam about freely.
[quote=Mike De H]She only had a photocopy of her passport and the Clerk “For your own safety and protection” wanted her full passport held behind the desk until morning when she left.[/quote]Like any good traveller, girls will only carry a copy of the passport. In fact, a number of CIS no longer have their passports, they being in the [i]care[/i] of the mamasan (or [i]agent[/i]). Again, reading the hotel [i]list[/i] can solve a lot of problems.
[quote=Mike De H]Easy because I just accepted the first price for all-night that was mentioned. ... and she asked for 1000 Dhs.
... she insisted I take her home to her place to get her taxi and pick up her passport, then return.[/quote]NOT a spurious correlation of events.
[quote=Mike De H]... then we negotiated the taxi, which I kept to 16 Dhs.[/quote]Who negotiates in [i]coin[/i] terms? (the smallest [u]bill[/u] here is 5 dhs).
[quote=Mike De H]She then realised I was on the verge of making an unrealistic, but pesky money-back complaint[/quote]LOL. I do admire your writing abilities.
[quote=Mike De H]Anyway, whats the point in arguing[/quote]Excellent point. Just cut your losses, mark it up to [i]educational[/i] expenses (and a good story LATER).
[quote=Mike De H]... even though drinks were so expensive I was tempted to lick the floor for spills ...[/quote]As I said, your descriptive phrases are appreciated.
[quote=Mike De H]... even though the Girls are not allowed to touch a client in any way... Of course the lack of smooching and music swept away any laughable pretence that this was a real nightclub.[/quote]It is a land of [i]contrasts[/i]. [u]THE[/u] reason for cyclone's existence in no doubt, but... the [u]facade[/u] of propriety all important. Besides, it does serve to protect the girls from some patrons...
[quote=Mike De H]On the left hand side is the sweet and sour Chinese collection. Enter at your peril. On the right, is the Stroganoff and Goulash selection. All spicy and hot and ready to go.[/quote]To each his own, said the asian studies major. [b]I'd[/b] say the left has the "exotic, hot and spicy", the right the "lumpy potatoes".
[quote=Mike De H]Being on your own makes you look like a lone spanner in a toolbox. I was a prime target for the hasslers.[/quote]Well, at least on the left side, after an initial onslaught of job interviews, word is quickly passed, and the interviewees drop off quickly.
[quote=Mike De H]Then there was the fact some Girls did not seem to friendly even though some were aggressively friendly.[/quote]Those that [u]KNOW[/u] they will be pulled can afford to be aloof, looking for the PRIME target, not wanting to be boxed in by "chaff". Others, do have to market. [u]Stereotyping[/u]: Chinese will cold call (especially if they DON'T know you), CIS will wait for you to make the first move.
[quote=Mike De H]Then I talked to some and got grilled, what do you do, where are you staying. I then realised, hey…these girls are interviewing me. They wantthe best hotels, the richest clients, potential marriage prospects.[/quote]Serves several purposes for them:[list][*]size of your wallet[*]can they quote "tourist" price, or the dreaded "resident" price?[*]Overhead of transportation costs (unless you'll pay their return trip), and overhead travel time[*]Ease of entrance to your "abode"[*]Finally, safety for themselves. Not unknown to be invited back to someone's apartment, only to find 5, 6 of his friends waiting, with a "1 price for all" [i]offer[/i]-she-can't-refuse.[/list]
[quote=Mike De H]I just wanted it easy. “How much? What do you o for that and how long for?” Followed by “OK, let’s go and have fun.[/quote]You have spent too long Amsterdam window shopping, FKK clubbing. I find the "question and answer" period to also work to my advantage, giving me time to assess her GFE potential.
[quote=Mike De H]Girls in groups are notoriously hard to get into, which led me to think that perhaps some of these girls were legitimate and out in groups for comfort. Well, you never know do you? My heart went cold at the thought of propositioning a respectable woman.[/quote]Respectable woman in cylcone? That's an oxymoron. RARELY, a tourist couple, or perhaps a couple looking for a 3-some, can be spotted, but EASY to spot. Every lady there is an [i]independent[/i] businesswoman. After all, what [b]ELSE[/b] does Cyclone have to offer?
[quote=Mike De H]By this time I was staying in the Ambassador Hotel. Girls are banned….beware![/quote]Again, the [u]importance[/u] of doing research ... can really effect your [i]enjoyment[/i] of dxb.
[quote=Mike De H]He caught her and said “Where are you going” making it look like he was talking to some piece of shit.[/quote]Man hits wife, wife slaps kid, kid kicks dog. You can always tell when someone has LIMITED authority by the way they wield it.
[quote=Mike De H]What could I do?[/quote]Could always have enquired about the possibility of her place. Or if she knew of a place... See, their enquiries about "where you stay" can prevent [b]BOTH[/b] parties from wasting time.
Very enjoyable read. Thanks. Know it takes time and effort to write.
Not intended as a flame to any names mentioned here, but... I'd be skeptical of advice from someone unknown on a thread. Not to say they aren't an EXPERT, just never bothering to post - too much time, effort, why bother? But the value of information found on a public thread is that it has been vetted by others, serving to validate its correctness.
Hint: next time, read the Reports of Distinction thread. AND, lose the "windows/FKK" attitude. One nice thing about dxb, very easy, with a bit of in-bar assessment, to find that all night [u]GFE[/u]. It IS the thrill of the chase...
Hope you return soon; can always use the entertainment.
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[quote=Strollguy]And I don't feel that I realy missed something. But about the Cyclone you are probably right.[/quote]You're correct; you really didn't miss anything you didn't find elsewhere. It's just that Cyclone is such an [u]institution[/u]... Most conversations about dxb start out, "Could you believe the Cyclone...". Just saves a lot of needless explaining why you never went.
[quote=Chacha]staying at the Burj - wondering if i can get any "extras" there in the Spa[/quote]Those that can afford the Burj aren't going to be wasting time reading these forums... they can afford anything they want. By your posts, you are obviously a high roller (as you posted, willing to pay 500-1000USD per night [post]426695[/post]). So why are you asking about HJ's? I'm sure any info a pauper like me could provide would be of no use. LOL.
[quote=Piper1]... including a Filipino woman jailed 6 months for wearing a revealing dress.[/quote]I do remember reading the original story. No real details (Gulf News, after all), just that she was on Rigga or Mankool, in a revealing dress. My imagination, or perhaps there was a mention of it being semi-transparent. I just thought the usual "what can they be thinking?"
[quote=Ramsis]You can find crazy people just trying to talk and think they can touch but that's what bouncers are for (wink)[/quote]You know, I just DON'T understand that attitude... what, they think the girl enjoys the [i]attention[/i]? And then someone else wonders, "Gee, I wonder why they don't like my nationality"... The acts of a few do taint the many.
[quote=Ramsis]Finished at 4 am after having 7 sessions using 8 condoms.[/quote]NOW I remember you - Mr. Baseball - always with the game [i]stats[/i].
[quote=Ramsis]Nice body, great face and humor. ... She cummed 6 times [/quote]Definitely on the last.
[quote=Ramsis]Won't repeat as I'm sure there are better talents.[/quote]Her loss, I'm sure.
[quote=Ramsis]She was gorgious to ME. But here comes the point the blew up the deal. She wants to be paid upfront in the bar and her boss takes the money. Mmmmmm. Don't think so! so passed. [/quote]Wise move. When it gets [i]complicated[/i], 3rd parties involved... time to walk, just like you did.
[quote=Ramsis]But tomorrow bars are closed! ...So what to do? any suggestions?[/quote]Now is the time to use those mobile numbers you've collected. Works for you, works for her. So why not call Ms 7/8/6? If nothing else, she will keep you busy.
