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Montreal is a whole lot more convenient and accessible to the American/Canadian hobbyist than any of the South American destinations, so I think Saint is comparing apples and oranges a little bit here.
I do think Montreal is probably the best hobbying destination in North America, based on what I have seen and done... ;-)
Saint, don't be too touchy when people disagree with you, it's the nature of the board. At least nobody is saying you really missed out because you passed up the five dollar hookers hanging out on the corner.
My last real hobbying visit to Montreal was almost a decade ago. It was during the summer, so things were a might different; there were some really spectacular SWs in the St. Catherine's Street area (am I remembering the name of the red-light street right?). Now I say this as a fellow who has no real love of the SW scene; but these girls were as cute as most I have met in the famous clubs of Buenos Aires.
-Uncle Otto
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Great post, Saint, even though there were a few items i didn't agree with, but heck, every one is entitled to his opinion.
One part i didn't agree with especially was:
"Montreal isn’t a major hobby destination and never will be. It’s simply a fun place to spend a nice weekend with your friends."
I realize that you might have had this idea because you've only been to Mtl a couple of times. Or, maybe that opposed to the majority 'hobbyists' who've made Mtl a regular trek, you have hobbyied all over the world. I envy you for this.....
However, even though you can't compare it to other hobbying meccas as far as prices go, it is in fact a 'major hobbying destination.'
Yes, i agree it is a great place to have fun with your friends. However, you have to experience the charm and beauty of Mtl on more than one occasion to get the 'real' feel of it. I suggest you return next spring or next summer...you will not believe the change, the european 'feel' it has....with the festivals, people eating and drinking outside (terrasses), the F1 Grand Prix weekend, etc....
Ever since i've begun to know Mtl as much as i know my own town/city, i have an even better time going there by myself than with friends. I make my own fun, in other words...no need to follow the rest of the group or have them follow you around. Certainly, i've met other hobbyists while in the city at the same time, and this was great, since we were all really there for the same purpose, which was to experience the beauty, charm and joys of the local ladies, among other things.
As for the prices for the hotels at this time of the year, i agree that they are a bit high...however, there are times during the year where the prices are considerably lower. You also have the option of 'bidding' on rooms through sites such as Priceline, or Hotwire, for the matter. A year ago, i got a room at the Sheraton for $52 US.....amazing! I recently got the Sofitel (brand new hotel) on Hotwire for $81 US...it now goes for $140-160 US, bottom price....if you book through other sites or through the chain directly.
As for the ride to the airport, you ommitted to say that there is always the other and more popular option: to take the bus from Dorval Airport to downtown Mtl. It leaves every 20 minutes, and its price is $30 CAN return. An unbelieveable bargain, if you're willing to wait a few minutes instead of rushing into a cab. They will even escort you to your hotel, and go pick you up on the day of your departure.
On your return trip, i strongly recommend you stay at one of the boutique hotels located in the Old Montreal area of the island. You will not believe its charm and historic 'feel'. You won't even feel like going to the downtown area. If you do, a cab ride will only cost you from 5-7 dollars CAN.
Well, i hope you enjoy your upcoming trip to latin america. It sounds interesting. As for your next trip, i agree with Traveler in the fact that there are so, so many great and greater options out there available, in terms of 'quality' and 'beauty'. I'm glad you enjoyed the ladies you've seen, and i'm certain they were as good as you've stated.....but the possibilities are endless.
Doc Holliday
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Does anyone have any more details on Bar Rendez-Vous Erotica? Like quality of gals, is it a shytehole, how much $$ and protocol? Also, does paying in USD get you "a bit more"?
It's been recommended to me before, but we've never checked it out. I'll be driving up to Montreal next month via I-89 and it sounds like it's along the way. It could make a nice start to the road trip.
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Otto:
I extend the same invitation to you that I extended to Saint.
Given that you have not been in Montreal for 10 years, you have been missing quite a bit.
No, you won't find ladies doing TLN for $90 USD. OTOH, you won't spend the better part of two days going there and recovering from the trip.
Prices in USD range from $90 (low end) to $150 (high end ladies). Again, while that compares quite unfavorably to BA or Rio, it compares very favorably to the USA. The low end in Montreal, BTW, is filled with lovely ladies who are typically young, innocent. sweet, new to the biz, and in need of cash. And I do mean lovely!
I also say that going by the info in THIS board on Montreal, no wonder no one goes there from this board. Branch out. Seek out new info at other places! It's out there.
Speaking for Doc Holliday and myself (a kind of Kick Stand and Saint duo), we would be glad to give pointers and suggestions to anyone who asks for them.
There's gold in them thar hills, boys!
Trav
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Otto,
I wasn't touchy for just what was written on the board but I got private emails. I just responded here. I could care less what guys have to say.
Doc_Holliday,
Good post. Again, I think you and Traveler are one of the only two that thought my post was negative on Montreal. All my other hobbyist friends that read it thought I was quite positive on it and 2 even booked tickets up there based on my posts.
This is the last post I will address on this issue. Guys...saying that Montreal is the best place to hobby in North America isn't saying much to me. You know why? Because North America doesn't have any "true" monger hot spots. Again, no disrespect to Montreal but once you guys hit REAL spots you will understand what guys are talking about.
A "true major monger destination" consists of places other than agencies, internet escorts and independents that come to your hotel for sex. I don't care how good that avenue might be. Again, it's not fair to compare cities. Even though I say I don't want to do that I almost have to with guys wanting to know how it compares to Buenos Aires and Rio. Point of fact...it doesn't.
I really enjoyed Montreal and I'm positive I'll be up there again. So yeah, it may be the best spot to monger in North America which you can take at face value.
Good luck gentlemen.
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Saint,
Thanks for the excellent postings and information.
Yes, Montreal is no Rio, BA or Prague. However, it's the best place in North America - which isn't saying much.
Well done!
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Here is my two cents about Montreal.
Go for the French agency. Girls are much hotter, younger and more passionate. Many of them are new to the program. Sometime you will meet some very hot ones, before they learn the rope and turn independent. If you don’t speak French, don’t worry about. All of French agencies speak some English. The language of sex is universal.
Forget about the high-class agency. Take your chance for the CN$140 girl. There are many French-spoken girls who just arrive Montreal from small cities. They are poor and want to make some money in escort business. They are much more innocent. If you are gentlemen, they will give you their private numbers.
On the hotel, you can get tax refund from your hotel bill (I don’t know any other countries giving money back on the hotel bill). You can get the form from the hotel (Hotels will not tell you about the tax refund) and mail the original hotel bill (Get two of bill when you check out). You don’t even need stamp the hotel bill at airport custom office when you leave Montreal.
On the departure tax, you can pay it by credit cards.
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jerry garcia> if you go up I-89 and pass border, you will be on route 133 north. Continue on 133N about 20 minutes. Before you get on Route 35, you will see Rendes-Vous Erotica on your right hand side. Cover CN$2. CN$10 for a dance. I mean lap dance. You can touch anywhere. CN$60 BJ and CN$100 FS. The girls are average. There are a couple of good ones. Good attitude before they got your money. If you want to pay US$? Fine. Nobody will resist.
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Traveler0099 or any other mongers,
are you familiar with the hotel " le saint sulpice "?
what are suggestions for a 4 day stay? which french escorts services do you recommend.
i am 1 lazy mother f#cker. please take that into consideration
by the way is mid march still freezing in montreal?
starfe
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Traveler0099
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Speaking for Doc Holliday and myself (a kind of Kick Stand and Saint duo), we would be glad to give pointers and suggestions to anyone who asks for them.
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Traveler0099 or anyone else:
I'm planning to make an appointment with Emma, Camille and Rebeka of Emma's Fantasy World, could you please tell me about their level of service and restrictions? Could also use information on Giselle of FrenchKissMontreal and Maude of AllissaMontreal. Backchannel Communication is fine, my email is trekker7@mail.com, thanks.
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TLN = "toda la noche" which means an all-nighter.
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Some replies, as requested:
Trekker--
You are out of luck. EFW site is gone. Word is that Emma is taking a long vacation, not sure of return date. I spoke to Emma recently and she told me this would be happening. There WILL be a new site opening soon with many of the same girls, just no Emma (at least right away).
Rebeka at EFW -- a friend saw her during her first week - hygiene issues
Camille at EFW -- very lovely, although CBJ
Amber at EFW -- older (late 20's) but very very hot. Put on your seat belt for this ride.
Coralie and others are very good too.
At FrenchKiss:
Melanie is said to be #1 in Montreal, although she is tough to book because of high demand and she travels a lot. I have corresponded with her but never have had the pleasure. She is always the first one I try to contact when planning a trip to Montreal. Always have struck out, but she is cordial and friendly.
Giselle is also said to be very good.
Florence is now at FrenchKiss, moving from EFW. You can see her pics on eros-philly.
Maude of Allissa -- one friend saw her recently. Tall blonde, anglophone. Her had a very GFE time with her.
Chloe Monteal:
Chloe is great, but is on a month's vacation in India.
Ann is a very beautiful 20 year old with well-done implants. I had a terrific time with her recently. Will repeat.
Starfe:
The St. Sulpice is actually my personal favorite in Montreal. Get a suite -- queen bed, nice bathrooms, small hotel, working gas fireplace in many rooms. Ladies love the rooms.
Doc Holliday is partial to the Lowe's Vogue. I have stayed there too. It is closer to the action downtown, but bigger than the St Sulpice. Marble bathrooms with stall showers and 2-person jacuzzi. Take your pick. I like the smaller place; just my pref.
As to french agencies:
Low-to-middle range agencies:
Les Filles de M. Jacques (514-983-5992)
---the best girls, who are Maryanne and Josee (of Beloeil), work during the day. Call at 9:30 am. They start after 10 am. Prices are $130 for the first hour, $110 for the next. Take two hours. Jacques takes calls in the morning, Michel and Yves during afternoons and evenings. At times, the other Josee takes calls. Try to avoid Yves -- he's known to bait-and-switch and is unreliable. He'll tell you a girl will be there shortly when he knows she's on a booking for a few hours. Girls will call an hour or less ahead of the beginning of the shift to advise if they're coming in or not. During evenings, most begin between 7:00 pm - 9 pm... Most of the girls at this agency give full service. Very open-minded (a couple might offer anal as an extra).
Asservissante (514-592-6465)
---their regular clientele consists of young, handsome men, “according to many of the girls.” So, YMMV. However, great mileage from Sabrina, Annie, Annabelle, Emmanuelle and Marie-France. Nadia and Marie-Eve are also rated highly, but don't kiss. Clara, the most beautiful one of the bunch, is extremely restrictive (no kiss, no daty, cbj)...however, she has been known to warm up considerably after a few glasses of champagne, her favorite. Martin, who takes calls and runs the agency, is great to deal with. Agency opens at 4 pm, but you can call at 3:30 pm to ask him who will be working. The girls call at anytime between 11 am - 3 pm to tell him if they're coming in or not. Cannot be booked in advance.
Fantasme (514-944-9545)
--- Heard nice things of Camille (mulatto) who works days. Also heard great things of Andrea and Pamela, who work evenings, and a recent one, Lea. Eric, the call-taker during the evening shift, is great to deal with. Rates are $140-150 per hour.
Sweet Dreams (514-919-6495)
----Rates vary from $160 to 300 per hour, depending on the popularity of a particular girl. Camille, available at $200 per hour during late afternoons-early evenings, is absolutely adorable. Short, blond and blue eyes...totally un-sp like. Somewhat restrictive, no kiss and cbj....but a real doll. Julia is a Brazilian bombshell, but at $300 (that's $200 USD). She supposedly is a semi-famous model in Montreal. Another favorite is Valerie, still in the $200 range. The call takers, Denyse and Carole, are great to deal with.
Better Half Escorts (514-572-1690)
----The owner and operator known as Alexandra is a local legend. She used to be the number one sp in Mtl. She still escorts at $150 per hour, and still is highly recognized as giving the best bbbj today. Rare are men who have resisted to these charms. She is of Brazilian descent and in her late 30's. Another top sp of hers is Sara, who also offers duos. She's at $150 per hour, and in her mid 20's to early 30's. Very well liked. The true legend of the team is named Jasmine. She's at $200 per hour, is available for duos, and is in her 40's (but supposedly looks mid 30's).
A top independent who is available mostly weekends is named 'Marie-Lou'. She used to work for Allissa, and gives a top notch service and is very attractive. She is half French, half Brazilian. I believe her rates are negotiable, but usually in the $175-200 per hour range. Her email address is: lady_marie_lou@yahoo.ca
Enjoy.
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Trekker,
First of all you should note that Emma has nothing to do with those girl's appointments. Emma is quite an intelligent girl. I've been emailing with her. She sounds like she has a busy life now.
The site as you formally knew it is gone. Email her and she'll probably send you an email with contact info for the other girls. I have all their email addresses but not sure if I can post on a public board so I won't.
I'll probably go back up to Montreal when it gets warm. I'm headed to London next week and the girls there look HOT HOT HOT. But expensive, expensive, expensive.
Good luck.
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Traveler0099:
its great when experienced hobbyists are willing to share so much information, thank you.
Seems it might be hard to find myself a young (18-22), gorgeous blonde upscale escort with liberal services. Kinda disapointed to hear that Rebeka has hygiene issues, she looks really hot. On the other hand, when I met Ann who is apparently the ATF of many hobbyist, she too had hygiene issues, maybe it was a one-time thing. As for Camille, I was really hoping she offered BBBJ, if anyone else had a different experience, please email me at trekker7@mail.com
Asservissante:
YMMV is definitely true, I got BBBJ & DFK from Marie-Eve but Marie-France, who is also another hottie, didn't offer BBBJ. In fact, she was even reluctant to give CBJ although her tongue stud felt really nice. As for Clara, don't think anyone has ever gotten liberal services from her, mainly eye-candy. There is also Valerie whom I haven't met but a friend of mine claims she is really hot and liberal, gonna call her on my next trip.
Others:
Just to add a little to your excellent post; Nadia at LFMJ is another Montreal can't miss, never heard a bad review about this beautiful lady. She's older than what I usually prefer but looks young and as a poster on *** once said is a Uma Thurman lookalike, I couldn't agree more.
Hotel:
you guys must be rolling in the big bucks: Hotel Gault, Saint Sulpice & Loews Vogue!!!!! I'm a single guy who makes only 70K after taxes a year plus I live in overpriced NY so I usually stay at Wyndham Montreal which is a respectable place, a little bit further from the main action but I don't mind since I do only outcall.
Seems my options are limited to Amber and Maude, if anyone would like to provide more detailed information about these ladies, I'll be most grateful, as always backchannel is fine.
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Trekker:
Are you certain you haven't mixed up Marie-France with Marie-Eve? I've seen both and had the opposite experience you've had.
As for the hotels, there are always great deals out there to be had, but you have to catch them when they show up.