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Hello,
I need some advice. I am going to Cuba again in December. I am tired of going to Havana and the regular spots. I am looking for something smaller that has nice CHEAPER girls. The prices in the city are getting to be too much.
I do like white girls in ares like Holguin and Villa Clara.
Any suggestions?
If anyone needs general travel advice I have been there abouit 8 times.
Thanks
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I find Santiago and surrounding areas much better for mongering than Havana, but if you are exclusive to white girls you wouldn't like it. Too bad, the girls of Oriente are so much nicer and eager to please than Habaneras.
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Dear Doc Bill,
What kind of prices are you paying?
Thanks
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Brent, price really varies, and I haven't been to Santiago in a couple of years so I can't give you exact numbers as I don't know. I do know that in general they are less cutthroat and businesslike than in Havana, and overall cheaper, often much cheaper. Exact prices depends a lot on your attitude and your spanish speaking ability. If you're marked for a newbie tourist you'll pay premium. Just be able to walk away, there's always more right around the corner.
While this happens in Havana too, in Santiago there's more of the girlfriend thing, whereby they don't ask a specific price and just expect you to buy dinner, maybe a gift or two, and maybe (but not necessarily) give them a few bucks to take home. Some have even gotten insulted when I discussed paying them for sex.
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Hello,
Does anyone have any current info on what the prices are anywhere in Cuba?
Of course I will try to get a "girlfriend" but it would be nice to find some extra pay for play.
Thanks
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Brent Gort,
I suggest you to try Cienfuegos who has most chica blancas in Cuba (Lonely Planet).
Two other relaxing places are la Isla (de la Juventud) and Baracoa where you can find many freebies.
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Guantanamo
Anyone been to Guantanamo lately, more specific, the towns of Jamaica and Manuel Tames?
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Guantanamo is probably as dissimilar to the other sections of Cuba you will find.
There are problems in quantities of food, clothes and other consumer goods.
Her thoughts will be feeding herself and buying clothes with the money you left after you leave.
There are not many tourists who have ventured into the rural area north of G'mo. I know some Habaneros who go there for cheap recreation.
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Gtmo
I had a Guantanamera girlfriend. It is definitely NOT a tourist town, and you will see very few white people there. It's pretty run down and the most 3rd world of any of the Cuban cities. The people are very friendly and the girls incredibly hot. Some of the people there were concerned for my safety, but I never saw or encountered anything sketchy.
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Oriente action ?
Anyone have information about activity and adresses in Cayo Mambi (Holguin), Baracoa and Guantanamo?
I will be there next week.
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[QUOTE=Mister Solo]I have been emailing this chick from Guantanamo, and I like what I know of her so far. I was planning to pay her a visit.
Has anybody experience with cuban chicks? Are they sincere or looking for Mr. Right like most Filipinas are?
Are they as money hungry as the Filipinas?
Any reply would be appreciated. Mr. Solo.[/QUOTE]It depends on who she is. Generally they are very passionate and not really money driven, but need to be treated very well. Just bring lots of soaps, toothpaste, etc.
Don't marry them or bring them out though.
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She is Cuban. Therefore, assume she has a boyfriend, husband or both or even several foreign "love" interests besides yourself. Don't be a sap and accept fact it's only sex. You cannot have a serious relationship with a Cuban woman because to them foreigners are just easy marks to be fleeced. And even if you had the misfortune of getting her out of the country, she would ditch you for the first guy offering a better deal. I remember asking a jinitera once if she had a boyfriend. She replied: "todas tenemos novios." Cubans do not go without steady sex. It's the only thing Fidel cannot control. She tells you what you want to hear out of economic necessity. You're in a bad part of town. Get out quickly.
[QUOTE=Mister Solo]I have decided to post here one of the pictures she has sent me.
HOPEFULLY nobody here has received a similar one, but any way, it never hurts to ask.
I even suggested having her picture taken holding a piece of paper with my name on it. Here again I hear NOBODY here has a digital camera.
So I really don`t know what to think. Can all this be true?
She gets hurt to the fact I DON`T TRUST HER. But man, I have being burnt a lot in my life.
Any help from you, more experienced mongers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Mister Solo.[/QUOTE]
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Arecho66, well put, sad but true. I've been to Cuba over ten times, and I've learned the hard way. But for Christ's sake, Solo, you haven't even met her? Come on man! Anyway, good of you to ask for advice. It has been my experience too that all Cubans have boyfriends/girlfriends and a steady diet of sex. It would do a visitor well to keep that in mind no matter what you may want to believe. And I'm no cynic, but the fact is also that their primary motivation for being with you is money. This doesn't mean they don't like you, but money is the bottom line for them. That, and possibly getting out of Cuba (so they can make some real money themselves). Enjoy, but don't get serious. Just my 2 cents.
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jinetera
The word means horse jockey in a round about way.
A Cuban rides a tourist to get them whatever they want: booze, sex, cigar & drugs, for a tip.
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Esta nova funcional
If you don't speak or understand Spanish, Cuba is the wrong place to set out on your search party. Few speak English, but you would be seriously limiting your market.
Cuba is a very difficult location is establish the type of relationship you're looking for.
I don't understand how some guys can be smart and successful in business, but be so dense when it comes to relationships.
I know a Spanish guy doing business in Cuba. He met a Cubana and she has taken him for a ride. She's tucking cash away for the day when she may book. He doesn't see it and is oblivious to the situation. She's an opportunist, ripping him off. She doesn't love him, she placates him.
She gone from street-walking jinetera with a retail job, to his banker. That's one situation, I know many guys that have taken a stab at jinetera conversions.
The predesesor to the jinetera was the fletera. A fletera used to wait for ships to dock at the port, and for the sailors at Dos Hermanos.
All a Cubana can think of when they are with a foreigner, is how much more they can get out of them. Difficult parameters for a relationship. Easier with a Cuban guy who has considerably less. They think you owe them a living, and her mom, dad, sister, brother, prima, ect.
It's a bad deal and you're out of your mind, with continued consideration of a desired Cubana-wife situation.