Warsaw

I just got back from Warsaw and have a couple comments to World Traveler's report.

First, it is true that Warsaw is the cheapest place I know of. However, my experience is that it is much easier to get a girlfriend sex experience in Prague. You should also remember that in Warsaw, the price is lower than in Prague, but a lady at a private sees about 5-6 customers per day, while a lady at a Czech club sees maybe 1-2. This means that the Czech women are more passionate, since they concentrate on quality rather than quantity.

Second, even though it is cheaper but more mechanical in Warsaw, for the first time I was able to perform oral on a woman in Warsaw by paying 100 zloty extra. It was worth it, because it was still cheaper than in Prague and giving her an orgasm made her much more passionate with me. After seeing her twice, I arranged a private meeting with her for 6 hours (it became 7) for 400 Zloty (I tipped her an extra 100) and we had really GREAT sex. I was her only customer that day, so again there is the quality over quantity aspect. (Another advantage is that she spoke decent English and was Polish rather than Ukranian. I am not predjudice against Ukranians, but I think that when I am in Poland I want to meet Poles!)

Concernig the addresses, Jerozolimskie, 113-115/4 is not that hard to find. You go down that street and find the number in the front of the building. Then you must climb up stairs outside of the building that take you behind the building but on the second floor. Then you figure out which of the doors must be for nr 4. You must then press the button for nr 4. In contrast to the other two privates along this back balcony, this particular private does not have its own buzzer. However, my experience was that the two privates there with their own buzzers had MUCH more attractive women, so you did not miss anything. (One was at 113 and the other at 117).

Krakowskie Przemiescie 16-18/17 is near the one of the university bookstores. You must go in the courtyard. However, there is no longer any private bordell there.

Concerning the condom issue: I would not have gotton so upset. Remember: having a reliable condom is a life or death issue for these women. If they do not trust an unfamiliar brand, why make them nervous? You should show some appreciation for the health risks they take and the stress they face having sex with 5-6 unknown men every day.

Hello everyone,

I am going to Warsaw very soon. Could anybody tell me about hotel girls. I mean, do girls wait in the lobby/reception/bar area for clients? If they do, then probably in the 3* hotels and above, am I right?

Also an update on flats/appartments/clubs in Warsaw would be useful for me.

Thanks a lot.

I am more into room service after I pick one out, what are best places to pick one and bring back to hotel for a few hours?

Yes, there are escort services at some major hotels. I know of at least a couple of (fancy) hotels opposite of the main train station. I am not sure Hilton, Sheraton, or both. Check out the tall Russian waitresses. If I wanted to do that, I would want to check the entire scene for at least one or two nights and make a move later. I did not have the luxury of time to that. So, I made the best of what I could have had. Don¡¯t let the Mafia scene to intimidate you. You just need to be alert. Carry only what you need. I carry only some cash on me. No wallet, no credit card no nothing. Except some cash, condom, extra tissue, and keep some lubrication with me for emergency. I think I am going to look for a small carry bag for the basic necessities from now on during travailing. Because, a lot of times, I am on my mission and nothing else. If you are serious, read all the previous posts first, get a map and route your way. Just like the way Jackson explained it in his post.

ABOUT WOMEN AT HOTELS:

I have read in old postings in some forums that one can fine high-class escorts at the top level of the Mariot Hotel. In the beginning of the month I stayed there for 3 nights and I checked every night, but I did not find anyone, who remoately seemed like an escort. However, last year twice I saw women, who looked like they could be. But I am not certain. Once I even saw two older men with three very young and beautiful women. Later when I came back, one of the old men had disappeared with one of the women, so I assumed they were escorts. I wanted to approach them, since there were two women and one man, so perhaps, I could get one of them. I came up to them and expected some reaction, but did not get it, so I asked if they spoke English. They replied, "yes," and I asked whether they could recommend a drink. Anyway, the whole situation was embarrassing, because they did nothing to indicate they wanted me to join them and I felt like a fool. So I think it is better to visit the privates, find a lady who appeals to you. Try her out at the private. At the private talk about the possibility of coming back to you the next night. Do this BEFORE having sex. If they lady knows you might return and book her for a long period, then you are likely to get much better service.

World Traveler.

Terrific reports, you provide VERY useful & helpful info. Our tastes differ a bit on GFE, etc., but that's what makes the world go round. My preference is to avoid hotels and their hardened pro's, but I don't know that I would ever just scout around for 2 nights WITHOUT moving on something. Any day that I don't/can't arrange at least 2 opportunities is a day I feel like I came up short. And that's only because I've slowed down, I don't have the energy I used to when I felt like anything less than 3 in a day was coming up short!

From your reports, I get it that the houses are the best source of talent in Warsaw. Would you say that situation is unique to Warsaw ? From your world travelling, can you tell me is there a "house" type circuit or system in some other main cities, for example places like Kiev or Minsk, or other non-capital cities of over a million population like Kharkov or Odessa or Nizhny Nov.

Another question, I think you said you're not fluent in foreign language, so what's your experience, if any, in using the local gazettas for finding opportunities. Also, what about taxi drivers, how's it worked out in using them to help find talent, or what about hotel security or disco managers ? I'm asking about those because those are all ways I've had some luck, though hit and miss, in hooking up. Of course my best sources have been madames, really female pimps to be more exact. Occasionally I'll find my preference via other opportunities, but madames for me are the most reliable way to hook up with 19-21 y.o. amatuer horny GFE university student types, the 8's and 9's, and rare 10. Of course, the trick is to find and establish a relationship with the madame, so she'll hook you up twice a day! Any experience/advice on finding/developing/ and mastering that?

I'm also real curious how, if you don't speak polish, how do you just walk in waltz in without speaking the language, and automatically and instantly get local rather than tourist prices? That's really hard to believe, that they don't try to insist on tourist price when you speak zero polish. I don't know how you do that, I don't imagaine that happens with anyone else, otherwise there wouldn't be the second level pricing to begin with. Without polish, how the hell can you even argue?

Mangus Man,

About Warsaw the following.

I have been in Warsaw about fifty times and did a lot of visits to the other (former) east european countries like Prague, kiev etc.

In Warsaw the best advise is: buy the Daily Newspaper "zycie Warszawy" (life of warsaw)
It is all polish but the least pages are adds.One or two pages full of adds with "private houses".

You can't miss it, a lot of "photo's" of girls are on this page.

Prices are 100 - 180 zloty's an hour.(4/5 zlotys is 1us$)

At the premises or for take out.Same price.

If you call, start asking if they speak english.

Wait some time and one of the girls that speaks english will come to the phone and answer your questions.

The only (small) problem is finding the address.

The east european system is the following.

Every address consists of two numbers.The first being the number of the building (mieskanie), the second is the housenumber, or better, the number of the apartment. So for instance ... street 26/10.

The number of the building you can find walking at the street. Big plates at the front of the building.

Often you have to enter via a hall or a innersquare and then just look around.

You will see a lot of entrances. Each entrance has written or a plate with the housenumbers, for instance 24-34.

Next to the entrancedoor there will be a pushbutton with all the numbers.

Just push the number of the house and somebody will answer.

Just say "hello" and the push the button to open the frontdoor.

Walk in, take the stairway and find the number of the appartment.

I advise you to take your mobile with you so if you get lost, just phone and ask again.

About the girls in the hotels the following.

In a lot of the, especilally former polish hotels you find, after 21.00 hrs, girls sitting in the bar, waiting for customers.

They are definately more expensive (100us$)

The best you can do is, find a girl in one of the adds and if you like her, take her to the hotel.

Just walk in with the girl.

Never encountered a problem BUT I always booked a room for two. Mostly the same price as for one.

Have fun

Has anyone had any experience with the odloty.pl website? I will be in Warsaw and Cracow in June. I am debating in flying someone in for a night or two or choosing someone local. I am not really into hunting all over the city trying to find someone - I'd rather know up front what they look like.

Thanks

ODLOTY AND KRAKOW:

To answer #1944, Odloty has only one address for Krakow. I went to that address (an old building) and could not find any buzzers at all that indicated that there was any kind of club there, so Odloty was a waiste of time. Concerning Warsaw, I do not know how acurate it is, since it was much easier to buy the local newspaper and try the privates that were nearby my hotel.

I am not a believer of off-topic materials but I am adding this much to make my reports more genuine. My experience with Eastern Europe started before this board was created (or available), that¡¯s why you don¡¯t see any report from me in the Czech section.

During my very first trip to Czech Republic and Hungary, I met few local beauties and I came back home with a pile of names, phone numbers, and addresses, which kept me busy for next few years. I ended up traveling all over these countries chasing girls. It was really harsh, especially the diet, but very rewarding. I ended up in long-distance relationships with two girls from Czech Republic for a couple of years. And then with a Hungarian who lived in Romania for a year or so. I used to travel three, four, five times a year to Eastern Europe hooking up with these girls. All outside the capital cities, from Olomoc (spelling) to Tabor, Pisek, and Brno in Czech Republic to Cegled, Abony, and more in Hungary, and I don¡¯t even remember the cities in Romania anymore. Each time I stayed in a room at private houses arranged by my (then) girlfriend or her family. I am just going this far for you guys to know that I have had well interactions with locals during all my trips except in Bulgaria.

The only time and opportunity I had to hobby then were during stop-over or traveling between cities. Night club scene, take home or ..... was not an option for me. You guys are so lucky you have the benefit of this board now, at that time, I have to admit I had to befriend a couple of locals to help me out with the newspaper ads to phone and write down addresses and directions. Don¡¯t like to ask directions looking for p**sy. And I only did that in capital cities. In Brno I tried a club. I paid an inflated price of 100 US for model looking tall Czech gal on the premises. I remember a couple of years ago I was watching a program on on-topic sceneries in Eastern Europe and I discovered that for example Tabor was a major hub for going through Czech Republic. What they showed was the background of where I used to hang out with my (then) Czech girlfriend. I was that close to it and I didn¡¯t even know it.

I always got a map, took public transportation, got lost a couple of times, and learned how to navigate using the transportation system. But even before my first trip, I knew about taxi scams in Prague and Budapest and never took one alone. When I took it with locals, it was very reasonable. In Romania, the gal would call for it ahead and would tell me how much I would need to pay. I believe the taxi scam became so bad in Prague at one time that it started to affect the tourism industry before the locals (or government) stepped in to put some control over it. My advice is that do not take taxies alone in Prague. Budapest, or Bucharest, period. In Warsaw, I took taxies alone late at night (after punting) but I knew my way by then. At night, their meter starts up (I think) at 8 Zloty so, don¡¯t freak out. A short ride is about 12-14 Zloty.

On the negotiation skills, I have always been lucky in all places I have visited. Believe me, it is really not to save a buck or two (when converted) but more as a duty to maintain the original setting as much as possible. Did I mention that tipping is not required (at all)? On a personal note, I don¡¯t go for a free feel when the girls come around. I don¡¯t fall apart when I see (my) stunner. Been there, done it. Without a good service, it is nothing. For me, I am always prepared to back down and walk away and I know the next hobbyist may appreciate my effort. For your information, when the local guys go to these flats they sit down, chill, have a cigarette or two, maybe a drink, and they like to talk (that¡¯s their foreplay) etc. If they go with other guys, which happens a lot, they take their time and (it appears) they discuss each girl and comment on and so forth, before making a decision. So, for you and I to spend a few minutes to convey what we are looking for is not much time. There is nothing special about my approach and I know it is not my personal charm. It sounds like I just do my homework ahead of time; always check out the archives as well. If you notice I had no question, no announcement, no nothing before my trip and I came back just with my posts. If you are not too bored yet, please continue in the Budapest section

Will be in Riga and Warsaw - maybe Vilnius May 12 - 23 and would like to work with some straight Ace Rackers. Please let me know if you will be there and want to hunt it down. PM since e-mail address not allowed.

A quick update from my Warsaw hotel room.

Firstly The Elite agency which I had previously found quite reliable in central Warsaw is now closed. Thought I had lost my bearings until I saw the place desserted and a Police sticker on the wall nearby. Obviously busted in a raid of sorts.

However I used the post of Rene Belge (18/04 - many thanks) using the website and his directions as follows:

"http://www.mlask.home.pl/wyb_region.php?from=lokal_lista.php&roz=4>>

On the opening page put your mouse over the region called mazowieckie and click: a listing of 130 appartements to choose from"

In the end I rang Dobra Agency which is about a 10mins walk from the Bristol Hotel on Ul Dobra 3/8. Although I didn't go there the receptionist spoke good English and gave me a variety of options. Slightly sceptically I chose the young, skinny Polsih 20 year old blonde who spoke no English over the tall, skinny 28 year old who did. Imagine my smile when a 9 (Christina) rolls up to my hotel, gorgous figure, small firm tits and tiny shaved pussy and after managing the language barrier all was just fine. There followed three very long sessions, in every position I could think of over 2 hours and a shower & bath to break thing up. Including paying her taxi fare (requested before hand) and a small tip total setback was 300zl. I was requested to walk her out to avoid any hotel security issues which of course I did - even the request to do this strangely mad me feel more comfortable.

Very efficient and no trekking around town.

Hi All:
Any news on Warsaw? I was wondering if there are any "lobby girls" or such. Any hopes of hooking up with girls in clubs or bars? Any new informaiton would be appreciated.
Thanks!
aht169

Hi,

I'm planning a trip to Poland next month and looking for the latest news on the club scene also.

I'll be looking for one with a massage, jacuzzi bj and fs is this still around 300pln?

Does anyone know any good websites with this info on like the for prague (escort.cz) that has good info, I have tried mlask but there are no links to english websites only polish.

If you get there before me aht169 let me know the score especially if you see any oriental ladies there.

Thanks

Hey Mike:
will do, let me know if you hear of anything either.
aht169