Stockholm

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Her pussy will taste of smörgasbrod instead of swedish dick...[/QUOTE]Humor on ISG board. Not often you see that =)

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Hi there, you Swedish mongers,

II do know, that MPs abound in Sweden and that there are many Thai ladies working there.

My question is:

1. are the MP mostly legit, i.e. places where you go for a wonderful massage and nothing else.

2. can you expect a Happy Ending from a fully clothed masseuse

3. can you expect to get a (B)BJ and/or FS, with or without massage

In Germany and Holland, it's either totally legit, or a totally legal place to fuck. #2 is considered a waste of time.[/QUOTE]I have been in a couple of Thai mp's in the Stockholm area and I have also read about the topic on a Scandinavian forum. The market seems a bit saturated so I am not surprised your girlfriend doesn't make enough money.

1. The massage parlours in central Stockholm are legit and rarely offer handjobs.

2. The massage parlours in the suburbs will more often offer handjobs but it is illegal (for the customer) and therefore very discreet.

3. FS or even BJ are extremely rare. I have never been offered it and stories about it have remained unverified.

I'd say the chances of your girlfriend's colleagues offering hand jobs are 40-50%. I don't think your girlfriend would get in trouble for refusing to offer hand jobs.

Would you be very upset if your girlfriend told you she had made some extra money that way?

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I'm a Japanese business professional and I'm always generous and respectful to women. Among the many western countries I travelled, Sweden is the worst country to receive paid sex. I've been to US, UK, Germany, Holland and even Russia but have never seen as many racist women as here. I've encountered many instances where a Swedish escort only desires to see a Swedish man or Nordic/Scandinavian man, which I assume she means white man because even if I speak Swedish to her, she still won't see me once she finds out I'm an Asian person. However what I don't understand is, what is wrong with a relatively rich, polite, educated, fit, healthy Asian man? Is my money not money to you? Or you're afraid of people from all other races because we're like animals to you?

Any insight from anyone is welcome!

[QUOTE=Nippon Pig]I'm a Japanese business professional and I'm always generous and respectful to women. Among the many western countries I travelled, Sweden is the worst country to receive paid sex. I've been to US, UK, Germany, Holland and even Russia but have never seen as many racist women as here. I've encountered many instances where a Swedish escort only desires to see a Swedish man or Nordic/Scandinavian man, which I assume she means white man because even if I speak Swedish to her, she still won't see me once she finds out I'm an Asian person. However what I don't understand is, what is wrong with a relatively rich, polite, educated, fit, healthy Asian man? Is my money not money to you? Or you're afraid of people from all other races because we're like animals to you?

Any insight from anyone is welcome![/QUOTE]You may have answered your own question. Many European women I have talked to whether they be Swedish or German, British etc have told me the same things you mentioned about Asian men. I do not understand why, since many of us guys think Asian women, especially Thai girls are beautiful. I am sorry you feel this racism. But I also think that Russian women are more racist towards Asians than any other Europeans. That is from what I have heard from these girls.

[QUOTE=Skintboy Mike]You may have answered your own question. Many European women I have talked to whether they be Swedish or German, British etc have told me the same things you mentioned about Asian men.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your opinion Skintboy Mike, but could you further elaborate on "same things you mentioned about Asian men"? I'm not sure what you meant specifically...

As far as Russian women, I've heard there're lots of racists in Russia as well but I never had trouble getting paid sex from them. Besides Russians, I've also had paid to have sex with white girls from US, Canada, Germany, Italy, Spain, Holland, Romania and I've even dated a Russian girl and a German girl. I don't know why Swedish women think they're more superior than the other girls. I mean they on average are probably better looking but even those not so good looking Swedish women won't fuck Asian men no matter what, which I think is f*cked up!

[QUOTE=Nippon Pig]Thanks for your opinion Skintboy Mike, but could you further elaborate on "same things you mentioned about Asian men"? I'm not sure what you meant specifically...

As far as Russian women, I've heard there're lots of racists in Russia as well but I never had trouble getting paid sex from them. Besides Russians, I've also had paid to have sex with white girls from US, Canada, Germany, Italy, Spain, Holland, Romania and I've even dated a Russian girl and a German girl. I don't know why Swedish women think they're more superior than the other girls. I mean they on average are probably better looking but even those not so good looking Swedish women won't fuck Asian men no matter what, which I think is f*cked up![/QUOTE]
Hi Nippon Pig, what I meant was that the girls I talked to did not want to sleep with Asian men. Most of these girls could not tell the difference between a Japanese guy or a Malaysian guy, but the bottom line was that they only wanted to be with white guys.

At the same time, they did not want to be with "ugly" white guys either. I think it is because Swedish, German, Dutch girls come from rich countries and they do not feel the need to sleep with everyone to make money. Many Russians are racist, but for them, they need the money.

I am sorry you have experienced this.

I was recently in Sweden (Stockholm) for business trip.

Consulting this excellent forum and the local Yellow Pages it told me that there was hardly any p4p fun in Stockholm. And if any, it was expensive, low service and you could be arrested. Quite adventurous, so to say. Sounds like the US.

Sweden’s prostitution law is based upon the presupposition that prostitution is male violence against women and gender equality can never be reached as long as women are exploited by males. While other countries recognize a sex worker (albeit male or female) as a legal profession, a male in Sweden is a sex criminal by definition who exploits and harasses women. Welcome to paradise! Fortunately, many other countries have a much more pragmatic approach to this matter. As Sweden’s rigid alcohol laws led to millions of drunken Swedes in other countries, you can guess what the prostitution law leads to. But it’s nice politicians can say that "prostitution does not happen in Sweden". That happens in the big bad world outside Sweden. And when a Swede fucks a Russian chick in Helsinki? Hell that does not count for the Swedish statistics. It’s just an example of how to export your problems to elsewhere. Many cities and countries use this little trick. And it still works.

While many European countries are slowly recovering from the feminist tsunami of the past decades, Sweden decided to hang on to the ideals of the 70’s and 80’s: all women and men should be (treated) equal (ly). During my business meetings I repeatedly noticed how concerned Swedes were about equal gender participation, even when there were simply not enough women present who could do the job. But it was interesting to observe the Swedish Pavlov reaction about this matter. And once again: following a rule in Sweden is sometimes more important than the intended result. Maybe one day in the future all men and women in Sweden will be equal and the problem will solve itself. Who wants to reproduce with his/her spitting image anyway?

Compared with 20 years ago when I visited Sweden for the first time, the street scene has changed drastically. The classical Swedish blonde beauty, although still present in the streets, is close to extinction. Instead of that I spotted many Middle-eastern, Asian and African cultures. A burqa is already part of the Stockholm street scene. Sweden will get a hell of a job maintaining its gender equality principles with the growing influence of all these conservative, not necessarily gender-equality friendly cultures.

Beauties and hotties can still be spotted on the streets and in shops, but only when they are below the age of 24. However at this age you can also find them in most US cities in jeans shops and high end fashion shops. And just like in the US: you can’t touch ‘em. On my way back to my hotel I thought I finally found a really cute Swedish blonde, but when I spoke to her she turned out to be an import Russian peroxide blonde.

I did not try any Swedish escort services. With rates starting at 200-300 euro per hour and some of them even charging 50 euro call out (taxi) fees, you can easily reach 1000-1500 euros for a night sex. I considered this completely overpaid and I guess a sex worker in Sweden serves one or two customers per month. I rather save this money to spend it elsewhere where I get more value for money. It’s just a matter of simple economics.

I did not notice any increased unfaithfulness with Swedish women compared to other countries. However that could also be part of my type of work which is dominated by conservative women with a sound marriage. Maybe when you visit a bar or stay for an extended period your success rate may increase.

I confirm the image that most fellows already described in this forum. If you want to be bored and be cut off from virtually any possibilities for p4p – go to Stockholm. I was glad to fly back home where there are a lot more possibilities.

For the rest, Stockholm was the second most boring city I have ever been to in my life. Even the rush hour on Friday afternoon was nothing compared to London, Paris or New York on an early Sunday morning.

So this concludes my report about Stockholm, one of the cities that is now high on my "to be avoided" list. Most business happens in the big bad world outside Sweden, fortunately)

[QUOTE=Der Peter]I was recently in Sweden (Stockholm) for business trip.

Consulting this excellent forum and the local Yellow Pages it told me that there was hardly any p4p fun in Stockholm. And if any, it was expensive, low service and you could be arrested. Quite adventurous, so to say. Sounds like the US.

Sweden’s prostitution law is based upon the presupposition that prostitution is male violence against women and gender equality can never be reached as long as women are exploited by males. While other countries recognize a sex worker (albeit male or female) as a legal profession, a male in Sweden is a sex criminal by definition who exploits and harasses women. Welcome to paradise! Fortunately, many other countries have a much more pragmatic approach to this matter. As Sweden’s rigid alcohol laws led to millions of drunken Swedes in other countries, you can guess what the prostitution law leads to. But it’s nice politicians can say that "prostitution does not happen in Sweden". That happens in the big bad world outside Sweden. And when a Swede fucks a Russian chick in Helsinki? Hell that does not count for the Swedish statistics. It’s just an example of how to export your problems to elsewhere. Many cities and countries use this little trick. And it still works.

While many European countries are slowly recovering from the feminist tsunami of the past decades, Sweden decided to hang on to the ideals of the 70’s and 80’s: all women and men should be (treated) equal (ly). During my business meetings I repeatedly noticed how concerned Swedes were about equal gender participation, even when there were simply not enough women present who could do the job. But it was interesting to observe the Swedish Pavlov reaction about this matter. And once again: following a rule in Sweden is sometimes more important than the intended result. Maybe one day in the future all men and women in Sweden will be equal and the problem will solve itself. Who wants to reproduce with his/her spitting image anyway?

Compared with 20 years ago when I visited Sweden for the first time, the street scene has changed drastically. The classical Swedish blonde beauty, although still present in the streets, is close to extinction. Instead of that I spotted many Middle-eastern, Asian and African cultures. A burqa is already part of the Stockholm street scene. Sweden will get a hell of a job maintaining its gender equality principles with the growing influence of all these conservative, not necessarily gender-equality friendly cultures.

Beauties and hotties can still be spotted on the streets and in shops, but only when they are below the age of 24. However at this age you can also find them in most US cities in jeans shops and high end fashion shops. And just like in the US: you can’t touch ‘em. On my way back to my hotel I thought I finally found a really cute Swedish blonde, but when I spoke to her she turned out to be an import Russian peroxide blonde.

I did not try any Swedish escort services. With rates starting at 200-300 euro per hour and some of them even charging 50 euro call out (taxi) fees, you can easily reach 1000-1500 euros for a night sex. I considered this completely overpaid and I guess a sex worker in Sweden serves one or two customers per month. I rather save this money to spend it elsewhere where I get more value for money. It’s just a matter of simple economics.

I did not notice any increased unfaithfulness with Swedish women compared to other countries. However that could also be part of my type of work which is dominated by conservative women with a sound marriage. Maybe when you visit a bar or stay for an extended period your success rate may increase.

I confirm the image that most fellows already described in this forum. If you want to be bored and be cut off from virtually any possibilities for p4p – go to Stockholm. I was glad to fly back home where there are a lot more possibilities.

For the rest, Stockholm was the second most boring city I have ever been to in my life. Even the rush hour on Friday afternoon was nothing compared to London, Paris or New York on an early Sunday morning.

So this concludes my report about Stockholm, one of the cities that is now high on my "to be avoided" list. Most business happens in the big bad world outside Sweden, fortunately)[/QUOTE]Thank you. That is a very well written and quite informative piece. I liked the subtle humour as well.

[QUOTE=Nippon Pig]Thanks for your opinion Skintboy Mike, but could you further elaborate on "same things you mentioned about Asian men"? I'm not sure what you meant specifically.

As far as Russian women, I've heard there're lots of racists in Russia as well but I never had trouble getting paid sex from them. Besides Russians, I've also had paid to have sex with white girls from US, Canada, Germany, Italy, Spain, Holland, Romania and I've even dated a Russian girl and a German girl. I don't know why Swedish women think they're more superior than the other girls. I mean they on average are probably better looking but even those not so good looking Swedish women won't fuck Asian men no matter what, which I think is f*cked up![/QUOTE]Out of curiousity, what places did you try in Sweden and what city?

Guys,

I will be visiting stockholm soon and will be there just only one night and two days.Whats is the most recommended place to visit.Reading the forum it seems the place is almost dead and nothing much to offer.What is the total damage of Money even if there is any? can anyone please tell where to find the address and contacts?is there any other recommended places like FKK clubs are something?

Waiting for the reply from any fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Anyway, if she worked her leagely, Sweden is one of the best countrys to be an employeed. Healthcare, rights and so on. Maybe she just didnt now how much tax we pay and how expensive all things are? One pack of smokes cost $6,5. Big Mac Co $8 and so on. Maybe that is the rip off? To little left in the end of the month when everything is payed? If she worked full time she would get out at least $2K month. I'll hope thats why, and not that shes been forced to anything. But, with the worlds most stupidest prostitution laws who force them all to go underground I cant tell in this situation. I'll hope she just found out that is so expensive to live here.[/QUOTE]

That's a pretty good summary of what socialism does to countries. If you can be bothered to work and actually be productive then insane taxation rates at all levels will reduce your standard of living to that of some schlub who can't be bothered to get out of bed in the morning.

Plus tonnes of stupid PC laws trying to force 'equality'. I'm not sure but I think it's Norway that actually has a law requiring 50% of major corporations' boards to be female? I mean, Jesus H. Christ.

I guess it must be all those pretty girls preventing the productive people packing their bags and leaving for good... can't think what else.

Where oh where is Sweden's Mrs Thatcher?

[QUOTE=Sex Hunk]Guys,

I will be visiting stockholm soon and will be there just only one night and two days.Whats is the most recommended place to visit.Reading the forum it seems the place is almost dead and nothing much to offer.What is the total damage of Money even if there is any? can anyone please tell where to find the address and contacts?is there any other recommended places like FKK clubs are something?

Waiting for the reply from any fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]Not much to choose from. Stripclubs and maybe some illegal brothel. I dont know where go for that though.
There is always escorts.

[url]http://www.sexwork.net/oppilaat_nayta_k.php?land=SWE&city=Stockholm[/url]

[QUOTE=Der Peter]I was recently in Sweden (Stockholm) for business trip.

Consulting this excellent forum and the local Yellow Pages it told me that there was hardly any p4p fun in Stockholm. And if any, it was expensive, low service and you could be arrested. Quite adventurous, so to say. Sounds like the US.............................. Most business happens in the big bad world outside Sweden, fortunately)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fox7717]Expect to be over there for a week in a couple of months, but everyone on ISG seems to think the place is a waste of time?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Sadly Der Peter sums it up quite well.

But I would like to add that nightlife can be good. A visit to the Cafe Opera restaurant/nightclub will usually provide the forum for a talk to some of the ladies that Der Petter seemed not to see walking around the city, but who live and work there like in the old days.

But, like most other places it's not easy to land a freebie, unless you have excellent connections, great looks and charm, lots of cash or celeb status. However, with a bit of charm and a bit of cash scoring is not at all impossible at e.g. Cafe Opera, I know from experience - but then I have scored at most of Stockholm's nightclubs (he says with a not so humble smile on his face). But scoring at home is, like we all now, an entirely different business to scoring as a visitor.

P4p is like the rest of the world, but the purchase of sexual services IS illegal although not many mongers worry about that. Ladies are to be found on [url]http://www.sexwork.net/girls/SWE[/url] and some other sites too. Most start at 250 Euros for an hour as stated in Der Peter's post and will set you back 800-1000 for the night - IF you can find one to stay the night the first time you meet.

Hotel staff are not very cooperative (in fact they are very uncooperative) if you want to get a guest in late at night. Strategic selection of the "right" hotel will improve that limitation.

Arcanehalls, what about short term apartment rentals in Stockholm/Gothenburg? What is the market like?

Do you find Swedish girls worry a lot about age differences (i.e. the man being much older)? In most countries the guy can overcome any inter-generational differences by spending a lot of cash on the girl.. but this sounds very un-Swedish to me!

Very Ukrainian though. See you in Kiev on Wednesday..