Istanbul

Nearly forgot !!

Is the Demirkoy still a happen'in place ? Are they Morroccan ladies there ? Quite a long way out from the City to return empty handed...

Hey Bunnyhopper.....
Read my topics about Bacardi..

Hallo boys,

I posted a Massage some days ago, just to inform me about the telefon nr. of the russian madam.

Nothing happend. So again:

could anyone write me an e-mail about the telefon-nr. of the russian lady, or is it absolutly secret.

I will be in istanbul in the next days.

Thanks for helping me.

E-MAIL: Kaiheinrichs@aol.com

Hello Gentlemen,

Below are the experiences of a friend of my mine he has kindly allowed to add his recent experiences to our collective knowledge of Istanbul.

Names, dates, time and places have been changed to protect
the guilty !!

In other repectes the report is un-edited.

Serenda has been closed for Ramadam, but is now open again, and is open earlier than people think, I was passing it last night at 10pm and it was open.

A few weeks ago I was flying out of Istanbul and I thought I would try the Demirikoy hotel that was mentioned in the Forum, in Atakoy, so I got in a taxi, and asked to be taken there, only to be told it was closed ( i think he was lying, but not sure) and he would take me to a good hotel in Aksaray, so we end up at this hotel in aksaray, and after I have paid for the night, thinking I would check out Barcardi club, I find out that the hotel won't allow girls back there, so that was $45 down the tube. so I checked out the scene, and thought I would try one of the Pubs, offering Girls, So I went in and tried to make it clear that I didn't want to get ripped off and I wasn't a tourist, assured me that it was only 2 million a beer and 10 million, for a drink with a lady, Yeah right should have know better, well I ended up sitting with a Russian, well past her sell by date, and to be polite, rather than tell her I would not even f...k her with someone elses dick let alone mine, I said I had to go back top my hotel for money, and for her to wait for me, so I put 15 million on the table to cover two beers and her drink, only to be told that the bill was 50 million, because of the nuts, fruit and other things that I didn't ask for, so I paid and left educated.

I went to Barcardi, got a good look around there and was impressed with the selection, had a chat to the waiters who were friendly and helpful, they explained that if I wanted to dance no problem, if I saw a girl I liked they would bring her over, even offering to point out all the girls that could speak English, I got the name of the head waiter and his card but I can't think where it is now. I paid the bill for two beers and the usual fruit etc, which was 20 million, not bad really, definately not a rip off joint. On my quest to find out more I left there and wandered around looking at all the other establishments, most of them are serious ripoff joints and should be avoided at all costs. So I went to Serenda, paid the 15 million to get in, and sat next to a guy from Western Europe , we conversed a little, he told me that the Moldavian girls were the best, anyway it was packed and and you couldn't get on the dance floor to see any of the girls, and after about 20 mins of being there they started the international caberet act, with about 1 hour or more of dance acts, mainly turkish dancing, which went on and on, and on some more. When the Caberet finished and the "Ladies" returned to the dance floor there was a stampede of guys to get to the girls, that was reminiscent of the wilderbeest on the serengeti, during the migration. I made two attempts to get on the dance floor but was defeated but the sheer numbers of Lemmings. I left there thinking to go back to Bacardi, by the way this is all in walking distance, and I felt safe in the streets surrounding there. On the way back I got talking to a taxi driver who said he could fix me up with a nice Russian girl for the night, so I explained that my hotel didn't permit girls there, so he said no problem, he knew of a good hotel and would deal with the whole thing, by this time it was late and I needed to get something sorted before I drowned in backed up bodily fluids. So I thought OK, and agreed the $100 for the night, and jumped into his Taxi, he took me back to my hotel and collected my bags, and then took me to ......... yes you guessed it the Serenda hotel, where he booked me in for the night, which clearly answers your questions, yes you can stay in the serenda for the night, like a normal hotel, except the disco doesn't stop till 5 am!!!!!! anyway waiting in the lobby is my my goergous Russian stunner, NOT, a rather chubby Moldavian girl,( who didn't speak a word of English, Franch or Spanish), still thinking what my new friend downstairs told me about Moldavian girls, I thought I would give it a whirl, and it seemed that she was less likely to crush me that being on the dance floor downstairs. So we went upstairs, where she made a bee line for the mini bar, ( probably where she got the figure from), any way she finally tore herself away from the TV and went and showered, and got in to bed, complaining that she was tired because she had been asleep when the taxi driver had called her to come over. So we got on with the job in hand, and she managed to take her eyes of the TV once or twice during my whole performance, it was most disconcerting, and after we had had a couple of boring husband and wife Fucks, she said that as I was leaving at 7 am for the airport she may as well go now ie about 4.30 am so I could get some sleep, By this time I was so dissappointed with her abilities and enthusiasm I agreed, and she left, reception called to make sure I was OK before they would give her the passport back, which I did think was a good thing, as if she had taken my wallet or something I could have had he stopped at reception. The final part to this tale was the Taxi ride to the airport, I decided I couldn't sleep so I went to the airport early and caught a taxi, I have driven around that part of town myself and knew instantly that he was taking me a different way, so I told him, but he didn't understand at all, and I just told him to get on with it, I watch the kms on the clock and by the time we got to the airport we had done 30 kms for a 12 km ride, so I told him to pull up at the police check point so I could report him, all of a sudden he knew I was on to him and said that no problems, and dropped me off at departures only charging me 15 million, not the 45 million on the metre.

Anyway, after my short excursion out of Istanbul I decided to go back in to Aksaray to check out Barcardi club and find out the real deal there, so one night I drive in there and go into the Club the waiter I saw before recognised me and sat me right by the dance floor. There was a good selection of Ladies and choice was the hardest part, I shortlisted it to two asian looking girls ( I thought Chinese) and eventually settled on one, who then left the dance floor and sat down, so I went to the toilets and on the way back asked her if she spoke English, and she said she did a little ( quite well actually) so I asked the waiter if he could bring her to my table, which he did, she had a drink and I had another we had a good chat and she then bought up the business aspect, and told me $200 for the night, I explained that I couldn't stay all night as I had to work the next day, so 2 to 3 hours was all I could go for, so she agreed $150 which I felt was a little expensive, but by this time I was entranced by her, she had a chinese look about her but was Russsian, and 22 years old, a body to die for and was easy to smile and laugh, so I thought well Serenda is about $50 for an hour and usually it is mechanical and they are in a rush to leave as soon as they can, so I thought 3 hours for 150 wasn't so bad if she was as good as she looked. So we left, I paid the bill 80 million, tipped the waiter and left, then 10 million to the front desk to get her coat!! and she said she knew of a hotel, so off we went and headed over towards Serenda Hotel, I was thinking that was where we were going, but it was a nice little hotel, just one block back from Serenda, and we go in, Pay 40 million and we are shown up stairs, not a bad room, the usual TV and mini bar etc ( empty but for water). Cut a long story short, she undresses and showers, and the body was unbelievable, cute arse, shaved pussy, small but irm tits, and not a stretch mark in sight, Paradise I thought, just my type, well we get on with it, no rush, pleanty of passion and feeling, already I am beginning to feel that I have had my monies worth considering my previous exploits. Then she gave me a BJ like I have never had, the wicked glint in her eye as she ran her toungue up and down my dick was something else, anyway, we sucked and fucked in most ways for about 2 hours and chatted for 1 hour, I was totally satisfied and couldn't complain about a thing, so I asked her for her Mobile as I wanted to see her again. No problem,she gave me the number and I called it there and then just to check that she wasn't fobbing me off. Off I went with a smile on my face and a spring in my step, Yesterday afternoon about 4.30 pm I called her and said I would like to see her again, and she said fine, so I met her at the same hotel at 5.30 pm, and we went up to a room and had 4 hours of just amazing fun and I even got 3 of those fanatasic BJs from her, I had her climbing the walls went I went down on her, but once again, no rush take my time, eventually I had to get back and had to leave her, reluctantly, she wanted me to stay all night but by 10 pm, I had to go, and we argeed to met again next week. She didn't even mention money until we were dressed and leaving and she asked me if I had forgotten something, I was just testing to see how pushy she was for the money, anyway, she said that it was the same as before so I paid here and walked her out to the street and left, I have to say that although not cheap I was not dissappointed at all, and was happier parting with that money to be satisfied, rather than half of it and been pissed of with what I got for it. I will be going back to see her again next week. It also means I can go and see here a a time convenient to me, not having to perform at 4 am to get my moneys worth and be so tired at work the next day.

Also I went with some friends (including a Turk) to Taksim in the centre, one night and went to a club there, we were fleeced totally, the have a great scam going there, you sit down watch the girls dance, then choose one to come over and sit with you, and then you have to buy the ladies a drink etc, we did a deal with the girls, $50 for 2 hours at their place just around the corner, stunning girls, too good to be true, of course it was, so you say OK lets go, but the say they can't leave the club until 3 am and so it you want them you have to stay and buy drinks till then. So my Turkish friend calls over the head waiter and explains that we all have to get up to work the next day and we can't wait until 3 am, he says OK fine he will give permission to go early at 2 am, it was then 1.20 am so it seemed fair, so we buy some more drinks etc, and so eventually at 2 am we ask for the bill, and are shoked at the 330 million bill for 3 of us, with girls drinking water. but pay up because we are on a promise, we head for the door and the girls say they will get their coats and meet us outside, does this sound familiar??? well the next thing we are standing outside the girls are still inside, looking for new mugs, and there are a couple of big bouncers not letting us back in to get the girls, we demand to see the manager, explain the agreement we had and he says it would be impossible as non of the girls are allowed to leave the club with clients, it is forbidden. We must have misunderstood, we explain that there could be no misunderstaning as one of us was Turkish, in short we were totally stiched up, it cost the 3 of us $220 for a couple of drinks and by that time it was too late to go to Aksaray to recover the evening. The club was called Olympia, but apparently all the clubs in Taksim operate the same way, be warned don't go there. As we drove out of Taksim square we noticed a couple of Girls, quite presentable standing on the side of the street, and in the interests of research we stopped to ask them How much etc, after my Turkish friend had discussed the price and place, they then mentioned that they were Transexuals, YEUCK, needless to say we drove home with out tails between our legs, and the only fucking that we got was financial, by Club Olympia.

That was the report - i hope you fella's found it informative. Makes me wonder why i didn't do the Bacardi Club in my trip there.

In addition i was talking to a female Turkish friend of mine whom has a relative that works in the Police force in Izmir. She was telling me that her cousin told her that there is a big problem in the City with amatuer hookers. Apparently ordinary turkish women and housewifes pick up local men and take them back to their homes (when husband is at work and kids at school) for business.

Needless to say i can't really ask her more about this - she will wonder why i am asking !

Is this true ? Does anybody have info on this ?

Bunnyhopper, thanks for the extensive coverage. Isn't $200 for a night too expensive?

Local expert and/or stockbroker: can you let us know what one should expect to pay for a stunning Russian lady in Istanbul?

Merhaba Hedonist,

Perhaps you are right but I really can't say as the report below was not my experience - i was just posting on behalf of another.

I too had imagined that $100 was the benchmark for an alnighter but on my own trip there i did not take a girl. As you have already commented, perhaps Stockbroker or Local Expert would care to shed some light on this ?

Bunnyhopper,

Congrats man that was quite the bunnyhopping :) Though I think $200 is way too much in Turkey no matter how stunning the girls are. Former models happen to fuck for $300 in Turkey. But don't keep your hopes up about that, because your chances of finding them are tiny when you don't have good connections in the Turkish modelling world. Also, their ex boyfriends find out and report them to the police so they hardly ever stay on the market for more than a few mnths. The bottom line is: $200 is way too much. I've had a Turkish girl for $100 before, and she was the most beautiful human being I've seen in my life! So the price for the Ruskies must be lower. A matter of supply and demand you know. You should be able to get a Russian girl for $150 if she looks good enough to be worshipped, and less if she has any sort of flaw. If you live in Istanbul (which I perceive you do) try to find one of those stunners, and become a regular customer. That way you'll get lower prices. The Turkish girl I had speaks perfect English (as to what she said) and is absolutely stunning. But I'm afraid I've lost her pimp's number :-( I'll let you guys know if I happen to find it somewhere.

As for Izmirian women fucking for money, I've heard that story about Greeks of the times before the 90's. Izmir has to have a lot of Greek influence, so that might be true. Apart from all, it's the most open-minded city in Turkey so your chance of getting laid for free is also higher. I'll ask my friends who live there and let you know if they say the story has any fact in it.

Hi Guys,

According to my expirience 200 USD is far too much, even for an "all-nighter", no matter wether the lady is of Turkish or Slavic origin. I heard of some Turkish top-class hookers in Ankara who sold their services for around 500 USD BEFORE the crisis in 1999 and 2000, but even those chicks come over to your apartment for 150 million TL now and stay the night.

The crisis has hit the entire scene in Ankara VERY hard, the prices have dropped to 80 million TL for one fuck these days and since the Ramadan (usually a no buis. month) came even on top of that, the chicks compete very hard with each other these days. About a month ago one chick, I call over on a regular basis, even offered me to be her boyfriend and stay at my house for an unlimited time; in return I had to cover her monthly expenses of about 2,5 billion TL. Not a bad deal, but not really "my cup of tea".
I doubt that the situation in Ankara is very different to the situation in Istanbul.

As I have said in my prior postings, I paid a gorgeous Moldovian chick from Serenda 100 million for an all nighter and she offered me 100 USD for 24 hours outside of the hotel. That was in 2001. I don't think that this price level has changed up to today.

My expirience with Bacardi was very bad. I went there in 2001 as well and got the feeling of a total rip off. The waiters and the prices were fair, but the chicks on the dance floor were completely out of their mind. After we called them to our table, they ordered cigarettes and other stuff on our bill and later wanted like 300 USD for an hour. We just paid our bill and left for good. In my personal idea, nothing compares to Serenda.

In summary, you will probably get confronted with very high prices by hoockers in Turkey if you are here for the first time, don't speak Turkish and look "touristy". Nevertheless, take 150 million TL as an upper limit for an all nighter. The competition is very high these days, so here is no need to pay more than that. Don't forget, this is Turkey ! When you go to the bazar in Istanbul and buy a carpet you bargain with he seller. If you want to "deflower" the carpet after with a hoocker, you bargain as well, of course :-)

Cochandito's "regular customer" thing is absolutely right. If the chick knows you, you get not only better prices, also GFE.

Regarding Izmir: I have no idea about the scene there. I went there several times but could not get any information. This is pretty akward, since NATO's Mediterranian HQ is located there, so many foreigners should be there as well. Izmirian girls are said to be very open, beautiful and willingly, but that does not mean you can pump it there with any chick. I believe this "prejudice" was born 100 years ago, by a farmer from East Turkey who saw the sea and unveiled girls for the first time in his life. In my idea, there is no difference between girls from Izmir, Istanbul and Ankara.

Evening Sirs,

The report seems to have caused a bit of a stir. Honestly it is not my travel report !!

I am planning atrip at the end of next month to Istanbul and/or Ankara and as before will post a detailed account of my adventures.

Cachondito - I wish I did live in Istanbul, i think it would be a great place to live. I had breakfast one morning at a restaurant along the Bosphorus near the Dolmabache Palace - i guess i could have gotten used to doing that every morning !

Regretably I am from the cold and wet UK !

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Is the Demirkoy Hotel definitley closed ? Were have all the Moroccan women gone that apparently used to work the place ?

Nobody has suggested any good bars for meeting regular turkish girls ? I don't fancy stumbling into a Club Olympia type joint.

Hi guys..
100 dolar..well it depends on how often you visit the usual place.
if you are a good customer to the bar sometimes 100 dolar is enough to pick a stunning lady.
But for an ordinary customer 150 is an average for a beauty.
But i witnessed that if girl likes you price is getting lower.
and it depends what time you go to hunting,at weekends ,prices are always high.So prefer week days .And always bargain to faint
if the place is not full that night you can shoot a model look russian lady..

About stunning Turkish ladies..forget about Turkish ladies guys.
you must be living here to find a gorgeus lady because they dont like one night stands.
But if you pay for a Turkish hooker than you are a dumb.Because the beutiful ones are realy miss universe but cost a fortune,the others are too risky..and ugly.
We Turks are even hunting with ruskies.

stockbroker

Bunnyhopper !

If you wanna meet regular Turkish girls, you may want to visit places in "Etiler" like the "Sherlock Holmes" or the "The Lane's" next to it. Many foreigners hang around there and the local girls are more up to it than they would be in other bars.

Have fun

Good evening,

Yyaisss, Demirkoy hotel still exists and is open ! I went there a couple of weeks before, but it was during the ramadan... and there was only 5 or 6 girls there. The place is really quiet and discreet (you could imagine it's just a motel, and you must ask for the disco to find the entrance). Entrance fee is 12MTL, room 45MTL and the girl I met a bit expensive (200$). But she was nice and horny and enjoyed speaking also. The girls there where young between 23-28 but I cannot tell you if it was Moroccan or not, need to go another time to check this point ;o)

I just arrived in Istanbul several months ago and I don't know many places and have no phone n° to call. I am very interested in learning anything that could help me hunting more and more quality (tekit.yzi@caramail.com). Thanks in advance.

have fun, enjoy yourself


[QUOTE]Originally posted by BunnyHopper
[i]Evening Sirs,

The report seems to have caused a bit of a stir. Honestly it is not my travel report !!

I am planning atrip at the end of next month to Istanbul and/or Ankara and as before will post a detailed account of my adventures.

Cachondito - I wish I did live in Istanbul, i think it would be a great place to live. I had breakfast one morning at a restaurant along the Bosphorus near the Dolmabache Palace - i guess i could have gotten used to doing that every morning !

Regretably I am from the cold and wet UK !

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Is the Demirkoy Hotel definitley closed ? Were have all the Moroccan women gone that apparently used to work the place ?

Nobody has suggested any good bars for meeting regular turkish girls ? I don't fancy stumbling into a Club Olympia type joint. [/i][/QUOTE]

Hi,Cossack,

could you please send me the tel number of some escort agencies in istanbul, i will travel there soon,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

jouyenjosas8@netscape.net

can some experts offer us some information about erotic sauna and massage service in Istanbul, tel number or address, thank you in advance!

Hio Cossack,

I'll be going to Istanbul next week, and I wonder if you could send me the number of the Russian Madame, and an appraisal of your experiences lately and the total cost. I havent been to Istanbul before, but i'd guess it would be easier than the usual bar pick up joints.
Thanks man

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