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I agree with the earlier posters that respect for the lady is important, but never forget it's a business relationship. I prefer to be a repeat customer at a few locations rather than trying to spread my seed far and wide. I've found the service gets much more personal the 2nd+ time, usually leading to GFE. They're also much more willing to try different positions, etc. which is always a bonus.

Red

Just returned from a few days in Seoul, and I thought I would report on the action at JJ's at the Hyatt.

Last Tuesday I was to go out with one of my regular friends there, and she ran into problems and had to work late. She strung me along until it was about midnight saying I'll be there in an hour. At midnight, she said she was too tired and couldn't make it. I was mad and very horny since we normally have a great time together. I headed down to JJ's to see what was available.

There were two women sitting at the bar that were probably working (the hints were that they were a bit older, sitting at the bar, and actually made and held eye contact with me). I started talking and one immediately asked if I would pay them. So, I switched to Korean and negotiated a price and time for both of them- 300KW for two hours.

We went up to the room separately, and proceeded to have fun. After about 45 minutes, they started to get dressed. I reminded them of the two hours and they said "sorry they forgot how late it was and would I give them taxi money" and on and on.

I opted not to make a scene, didn't give them any more money and basically told them what I thought about their business practices. Sorry I don't remember their names.

My suggestion is to skip the professional talent at JJ's. They're over priced and don't deliver (friends have had similar experiences). The amateur talent, on the other hand, at JJ's is first class but usually impossible to land without speaking some Korean. Even if you do speak some Korean the odds are against you at JJ's in my opinion and experience.

Interested punters may wish to check out the url at

http://www.youth.go.kr/English/circumstance/area.asp

At which the local government has outlined areas unsuitable for youth. The main criteria seems to be in line with the stated objectives of this site.

Thanks for the report, Bikey. I am headed to Seoul next week and booked at the Hyatt. I was just about to post here and ask if anyone had any recent research regarding JJs. I have been there a couple of times before, only a couple of quick trips to JJs, but didn't have much luck there. Noisy, crowded, and lots of pushy Korean guys. Looked like one of the more difficult scenes of the many Hyatts I have stayed in in Asia!

To the fellow mongers,

The only attractive aspect of JJ at Hyatt is simple - the girls there speak English ! Among the locals, JJ is said to be too pricy and crowded, only good for showing off while accompanying your own GF - different / exotic bar scenes with lot of foreigners.
That's why you find any pretty girls almost always with their friends.

On the other hand, if you spot a single girl there, I am pretty sure she is a pro. Watch her carefully to make it sure she is really a solo, then go offer a drink and ask the price. The next is upto you.

The general scene in Seoul is quite frustrating to the first time visitors, but once you learn how-to, it is too easy to buy the type you want ( except anal , CIM and facials).

And my question: Anyone knows the girl who will accept the CIM / facial in Korea? I'd tried that with lots of girls with additional money offer, still the answers were unanimously NO. Quite disappointing.

Play Thing

Ah, another nice night mongering in Iteawon. Picked this little 22yo up at Seoul Pub. She was 4 sheets to the wind.

Back a my place and a lil more soju and she was gone. Decided to snap some pics. She was a cutie.

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Wicked Willie,

Don't get me wrong, cause I am always appreciative of fellow Mongers' conquest. The issue I have is that this girl appears to be "out-of-it"; drunk or even worse, drugged. That could pose a whole new set of problems.

Be careful out there!

Ez

Hello all -- more about repeat business and appearances:

Yes, your appearance does make a difference. I'm not sure age matters that much, but it's not hard for the girls to assume that older men have a bit more money to spend than younger men.

I've walked through Yongsan with a suit, and hardly ever get turned down, except walking down the main A road. I would like to hear from foreigners who have had success on the A road. There is a difference if you are dressed for real business, or if you are wearing blue jeans. Don't take my word for it: try the experiment yourself.

I agree with being a repeat customer. I have yet to have one of my girls not agree to another encounter. In face, I am welcomed with open arms. If you are kind, friendly and make them laugh, your second, third or whatever "transaction" goes much better.

One of my regulars would do just about anything after the fifth time with her. A "service" tip of 10,000 won at the end also gains a lot of creditability with the girl.

Haven't had a lot of time lately, but I was out New Year's Day. It was slim pickings at Yongsan. I walked the whole place and the girls were just plain ugly and few. Went to the "office" of one of my regulars last, and she was in, and happy to see me. Much better experience.

Did get a bonus for that weekend from older Korean divorcees. Much have been lonely because two of my friends were in the mood for foreign meat. It's always nice to be wanted.

As far as barbershops go: I think the quality of ladies working the BSs has declined. Comments from others?

Macgoo,

I hear ya. That is why I did not do anything with her that night. We crashed, she got up in the middle of the night, got naked, went back to sleep and we banged in the AM when she was up and awake.

Did not want to hear the old "oh, I said no!" routine after the fact, so I waited till she was sober. I took pics then too, but those are my private "in-action" photos that I won't post up here anymore.

Everyone must be careful, all the time, as you never know who will say they were drunk with even 1 beer in their system - etc, etc, etc.

L8r,

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Play Thing,

You are right about JJ's. It is too expensive for most Koreans.

I think you are wrong about identifying the pros though. All of the ones that I have spotted usually had a friend working with them. They're only solo when their partner is upstairs.

BR

PlayThing,

Regarding CIM and facials, I've only found a couple of girls who would do this, and only after much repeat business. At the tourist hotel sports massages in outlying towns (Cheonan and Gunsan) are two of my semi-regular girls who are up for pretty much anything (except anal - yet). However, I've never managed either in Seoul, even with my regular girls. It seems that Seoul is going the way of the States lately with CBJ everywhere I go (though I don't go to Itaewon or any of the places like Yongsan, 588).

Now, if you get a regular Korean girlfriend, the chances are much better (100% in my limited experience of 3-4 girls), plus possibly anal and convincing them to shave.

Red

The top sign says "Aca Saka" and is basically a "beer house" and also sells "ang ju"...a nice tasty alcoholic Korean beverage. The sign below it is for a Hapkido studio for anyone (Man, Woman, Eldery, kids) wanting to learn a very useful and potentially deadly martial arts form.