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Racism
i know the subject has died down a little bit on this forum, but thought I would add my two pennies worth. All I know is that:
I don't mind one bit if a WG turns me down because of my skin color. If she came along with me ONLY for the money, chances are that it would turn out to be a loser of an experience, and we all know we go scouring around for that "heavenly GFE" experience. So what's the point? Let the woman choose whom she will squeal in rapture for and whom she won't. Yeah sure, money is a decider but I doubt it's the only thing that decides. They don't squeal louder the more you pay. Know what I mean?
I've had A listers at Cyclone & Premiere quote me as if they were turning me down - I simply say "thanks, see you later". I don't take it personally. I've had amazing CIS and Africans and have been turned by amazing CIS and Africans too (I'm not a PRC type of guy - know what I mean?)
Actually I prefer that they're honest if they don't want to do the dirty with people like me. I have the option of choosing what i want to do it with, why not them? The money is only the "tool" for the transaction.
I just feel that the chances of getting that "heavenly GFE" experience are greater with someone who says yes for her own reasons whatever they may be - money, race, color, height, weight...whatever. I'm not at all comfortable with the idea that a WG will say and has to say yes to everyman....most of us would take quite a beating of the ego.
Sounds like I'm condoning racism. Nothing is farther than this....but that's for another forum and another time.
This forum is amazing. I check it every day, in every country I am in (I travel like crazy). And of course all the kudos go to the masterful posts everyday. Keep it up, and thank you.
Cool Sinbad
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[QUOTE=Cool Sinbad]i know the subject has died down a little bit on this forum, but thought I would add my two pennies worth. All I know is that:
I don't mind one bit if a WG turns me down because of my skin color... ..
This forum is amazing. I check it every day, in every country I am in (I travel like crazy). And of course all the kudos go to the masterful posts everyday. Keep it up, and thank you.
Cool Sinbad[/QUOTE]Good attitude Sinbad. I read a couple of your posts recently - good stuff. Especially the one where you picked up the freebie honey at the Dublin nightclub in Delhi, had a great GFE night with her, then gave her cash for the wedding outfit before she left. You smoothie! ;)
I'm curious: would a westener generally have a chance with an Indian honey in a Delhi nightclub? (non-WG or semi-pro like your wedding girl).
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Went to Buddha Bar at Grosvenor House, in Marina area tonight. Unfortunately it was with a work colleague (a good guy), but we entertained a boring visitor from overseas. All work talk. Boring!!!!! Fortunately I managed to leave early (around 10pm), but I still saw some delicious tempters entering and leaving the building, some of them obviously high-class pros, judging by the gents they were with (unless the girls were out with their dads ;)).
I'm waiting for someone else to post a real field report on this new five-star area. I'm a four-star guy. ;) But maybe I just have to do it, to push forward the frontiers of Dubai mongering! (Wed night WR?)
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[QUOTE=Piper1]I'm waiting for someone else to post a real field report on this new five-star area. I'm a four-star guy. ;) But maybe I just have to do it, to push forward the frontiers of Dubai mongering! (Wed night WR?)[/QUOTE]
Piper
When you are with me you know its going to be a 5 star time...;) As it is you are not purely 4 star you are all stars from top to bottom (literally) ;)
See you Wednesday, lets see if MK can visit us while we quietly have a drink and work out how to take the ladies for Dhms 500 LT!
Best work on the negotiaition skills
WR
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[QUOTE=My Kapitan]
WR get ur mate to SMS, I feel a night of debauchary coming on - miss D's hair is same color and length as O's. A right royal Regal night 4 sure..Then again as I'm feeling good maybe the Fantasia- wonder if I can get Miss K in there?????
As 4 the weekend I'm game as long as it is not Thursday - MFF 3sum swinger night organised.
MK[/QUOTE]
MK
Likely see you tonight, will bring along the gent - another ISG member but not UAE based - so that he can be introduced to Miss K (have told him to take energy pills, but then he has played with Miss N so he must have plenty of that!). Will call later.
Good to hear that things are calmer now, just don't have any sharp knives around when O gets back and make sure the house is DNAed twice over ;) and also check the SMS folder again!!!! Any from me you can leave as O trusts me to be your moral guidance counsellor ;)
As for forgiveness for your recent minor indiscretions - I suppose a threesome with a bi female is one way of saying that she misunderstood you and sorry ;)
WR
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Piper1
[QUOTE=Piper1] I'm curious: would a westener generally have a chance with an Indian honey in a Delhi nightclub? (non-WG or semi-pro like your wedding girl).[/QUOTE]
Of course! A Westerner has as much of a chance as a local with Indian honeys ANYWHERE. The problem in India is that as a whole, NOBODY has much of a chance unless it is pre-arranged (in a group of friends, paid for WG, semi-pro etc.,etc). Once in a blue moon, lightening will strike, but otherwise it's very rare. Just is the way it is. But change is afoot and conservative mores are loosening up a bit. Maybe in a decade or two......
Cool Sinbad
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Dry
Back in Dubai after a full year away. The number of buildings in and around shk zayed rd seems to have doubled and the construction everywhere is just an eyesore.
Traffic actually is worse - if that is possible. But what was disappointing is that there appears to be a serious crackdown on SWs and houses.
While I haven't been to the clubs yet (I plan to on monday and tuesday - would love to meet some of the regulars, so please let me know if you'll are interested and we can meet for a few brews), I did cruise around the old hangouts. Deira and Bur Dubai look to be dry. What is worse is that it appears like the lovely F and E's homes are now closed (or they are on a vacation). I did ask around and it appeared that a lot of the homes are shut at the moment.
So will be hitting Regal and cyclone (if Regal looks dead) on monday.
Cheers all.
MH
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[QUOTE=Piper1]I'm curious: would a westener generally have a chance with an Indian honey in a Delhi nightclub? (non-WG or semi-pro like your wedding girl).[/QUOTE]Hey Piper,
Delhi may be a little tricky as explained by Sinbad - but sometimes its possible to get lucky! but knowing naughty locals does help.
Mumbai However...well... that was a different story - the girls are a bit more loose and more into the western lifestyle.
I went there last year after my Dubai trip, with an English friend, and he scored before I did! (im a Swedish born Asian) and it was me giving him tips on the way!
So if you havent done Mumbai. Maybe that's where to try for an Indian Honey.
I in the meantime will be sticking to Dubai. I just love the variety!
Diss.
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One question
I only have one question!
Yes I need to read the forum but I only like to know wich pace is better to find some nice girls, Dubai or Abu Dhabi? And what about the prices, is there a difference?
I just like to know it because I need to book urgently my flight so I will read the forum after it!
If some help required for the Netherlands, France, Luxemburg or Belgium, feel free to ask, ok?
Thanks a lot friends,
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[QUOTE=Mad Hatter]
So will be hitting Regal and cyclone (if Regal looks dead) on monday.
Cheers all.
MH[/QUOTE]
Monday is IMHO thr best night of the week. Hit the regal after 1115 and its excellent, few locals and bored girls refreshed after the post weekend sleep.
I would be happy to partake of an alchoholic beverage.....
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[QUOTE=Camieleke]I only have one question!
Yes I need to read the forum but I only like to know wich pace is better to find some nice girls, Dubai or Abu Dhabi? And what about the prices, is there a difference?[/QUOTE]That's 2 questions.
1. Nice girls? DEFINE nice girls. But both cities have, for me anyway, nice girls.
2. Yes, prices are different. Some charge more, some less.
Hope this helps.
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Buddha
Went to Buddha Bar at Marina again tonight, this time later (around 1100pm) and this time with Miss Bodyguard. As we walked towards the entrance, two young honeys walking in front of us. Definitely CIS, very likely WGs. Looking good. Got inside, and the place was busy. Full of Dubai's "beautiful trendy set", so I fit in perfectly. :D
About 15 single girls in the long bar area in twos and threes. My WG detector blipped at about half of them.
A glass of wine ranged from 60 to 70 AED. Hope that's not an indication of the price of other goods and services in the area. Back to three- and four-star for me!!
(We were also in Club 44 on top floor about 1030pm. I've seen a few WGs there in past visits after midnight. Nice views tonight, but only of the city.)
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[QUOTE=Piper1]Full of Dubai's "beautiful trendy set", so I fit in perfectly. :D
A glass of wine ranged from 60 to 70 AED. Hope that's not an indication of the price of other goods and services in the area. Back to three- and four-star for me!!
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Piper
So when we go around the Marina on Wednesday, I will fit right in with my debonair looks and trendy clothes ;) Think I should not wear the boardies and T shirt this time......
As for prices.. well I get spoilt so best I get a shock once in a while. As long as hotel Piper is available...
Best get back to working out which girl I should chose for Tom S for tomorrow night (see the AD thread, its a great job I have sometimes :))
WR
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Cross-post: Part of a longer report[quote]Quote: from roadwarrior on 6:07 am on Aug. 7, 2006[br]Rockefellas [Regal] - Very attractive Kazakh blonde (35D, great body, seemingly fun personality) - wanted 1000, I said 500, we agreed to 700 all night. Then, she told me to wait by the door, just a few minutes. It was about 1245....and I waited...and waited...and then about 120 am, went in, no sign of her. Secret elevator? Fire pole? Escaped through the roof? Apparently, holding out for a better deal. [/quote]RoadWarrior - great report.
You got me thinking - there is an escape route at Regal - up the spiral staircase into the Kasbah-like bar (quiet place to eat, drink, play pool - the girls go there to chill out). This bar has an exit into the hotel.
I wonder if guys who must pay entry at the front door can sneak in this "back door" for free?
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WR - bring the boardshorts!
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[b][u]Author: BarCrawler[/u][/b], with his permission, crosspost
Editor: 11Bravo - updated links for this forum
[b]A Quick Guide to Maximising P4P time in Dubai for the Visitor.[/b]
[i]It’s all been said before and can be found if you UTFSE so regulars can skip – but the questions still get asked, this has been a while in preparation, so here goes.[/i]
[b]Why Dubai[/b] – I would suggest that visiting Dubai just for P4P is only worth considering if you are close by and with limited time, i.e. a weekend R&R from KSA etc. but chances are you are on a business trip or transiting on the way to somewhere else. Or perhaps you are here for a sporting event or have fallen for the shopping hype or have a tower crane fetish?
First and foremost, research the information on the forum before you leave home. The Dubai Hotel Thread provides condensed and easy to find information on hotels and pickup bars.
[post]417530[/post]
The majority of regular posters do not use hotels, so it’s up to [b]you the visitor[/b] to feedback with your experiences in order to keep the list up to date.
You should also read the most recent posts on the forum, lot’s you can skip,’cause as some people say, we do go on, but if you go back a month or so you will find reports on the main venues giving some sort of indication of what nationalities of girls are frequenting the bars and the numbers you are likely to find etc..
Get international roving setup on your mobile phone before you leave home.
Get some condoms, girls may not carry their own as they can be used as evidence by the LE.
Unless you [B]know[/b] someone its very unlikely you will be given contacts so a little legwork is necessary; however, if you relax, I think you will find the leg work fun and you get to choose from a big selection of girls..
If arriving early in the day and you want some quick action, assuming MP’s are your thing, pick up a copy of The Gulf News. MP’s will be listed along with health clubs etc. in the classified section. They are not going to say outright that they are a knocking shop, obviously, but if there is no land line (04 number in Dubai), just a mobile number (050-) and there is an indication that the service is only for men you are probably on to something. – However be careful when making contact.
Next stop would be lunch at TGIT, by all accounts the action is much reduced of late but depending on how choosy you are you may find someone of interest.
In the evening, hit the bars, the posts below will provide you with a list of the main pickup joints in the central area, the main nationalities and the times they are likely to be most busy. If you are likely to want company on subsequent days of you visit (particularly if you want a nooner or early evening liaison) collect a few phone numbers, do not over do it though because if you are seen to be colleting a lot of numbers you will be regarded as (at best) a time waster by the girls and you may find striking a deal much harder. Do not be offended if a girl refuses to give you a number, some won’t. (Particularly if you look like you may be a member of the LE)
[post]482531[/post] dubai venue map
[post]404949[/post] general dxb scene
[post]415423[/post] [i]popular[/i] bar list
[post]393506[/post] list of even more FAQ's, tips, etc.
Once you have interviewed a few girls and have some contacts for future use, select your “bride for tonight”, if no one takes your fancy, move on to another bar. If you can’t find someone after visiting several bars, you are probably not in the mood! Depending on the venue, time of day, the girl, your apparent gullibility and how much travel time to you accommodation expect to pay around 200 to 500 AED for ST and between 400 and 1000 AED for LT (all night), make sure the currency is specified. Initial quotes may be higher and some girls in some of the more upmarket venues may look for more, particularly if they are a “rare” nationality. Beware of excessively high quotes however – even if you can afford it and she is a looker it could be an indication that she would rather not go with [b]you[/b] and this is unlikely to lead to a good experience.
[b]A word on streetwalkers.[/b]
These are much reduced, there are still some around but in the current climate be very careful approaching a woman on the street, reports suggest the LE is monitoring the known areas and if you approach a civilian you may even get charged with harassment. Unwanted solicitations make life very uncomfortable for civilian women.
[b]When it's over[/b]
When you leave, save your contacts for your return, but bear in mind you may not find her there next time. Girls go home both voluntarily and involuntarily all the time.
After your visit share your experiences, particularly with regard to GF hotels and any discoveries not commented on in the forum.
[b]Finally always remember YMMV[/b]