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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2238981]When you click on 'Asia', can you post a screen shot of that? When I log in, I see what is in this pic. There is a link for Philippines, but not for Asia.[/QUOTE]Here you are Westie.
The Asia tab shows a list of all countries and scroll down to see Philippines and then under it is Cebu.
Or if in the Philippines thread reading / posting just click on Asia and the long list pops up.
See the screen shot and hope I helped any confusion LOL.
This is what it looks like on my screen from the Forum - Asia menu page.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2239026]Westie, you are correct. You cannot go from the log on page displayed direct to the Asia nor Philippines _ Cebu Forum.
The path is:
Front Page (your screen shot) upon log in or the blue tab at the top of any page.
Forums tab at the top of the page.
Open Asia forum, past Canada, Mexico etc. (Note Cebu is not listed under Asia here either. Dooh!
Open The Philippines_Cebu, past Afganistan, Bangladesh,. . . The Philippines.
Sorry no screen shots as my mobile destroys the page justification.
I agree it is as simple as Chinese algebra. [/QUOTE]Yes, its clear as mud. After logging in, you must click several links to get to the Cebu forums. Jackson, help?
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2239091]This is what it looks like on my screen from the Forum - Asia menu page.[/QUOTE]What's all the fuss about? I'm with Aussie G.
See Philippines. Cebu link and click it.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2239302]What's all the fuss about? I'm with Aussie G.
See Philippines. Cebu link and click it.[/QUOTE]For the Makati and AC forums, its that easy. However the Link to Cebu forum was moved a long time ago by Admin away from the same area as the Makati and AC forums, to the bottom of the page under "User Blogs". Even after you scroll down to find Link to Cebu and click it, you won't see the Cebu forums, you see the page in the pic, with yet another link that takes you to the Cebu forums. Admin, why the extra link? It can be hard for newbs to find.
OTOH, RK, its possible that we are seeing a different page upon login.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2239349]For the Makati and AC forums, its that easy. However the Link to Cebu forum was moved a long time ago by Admin away from the same area as the Makati and AC forums, to the bottom of the page under "User Blogs". Even after you scroll down to find Link to Cebu and click it, you won't see the Cebu forums, you see the page in the pic, with yet another link that takes you to the Cebu forums. Admin, why the extra link? It can be hard for newbs to find.
OTOH, RK, its possible that we are seeing a different page upon login.[/QUOTE]Unlikely. I get the exact same screen you describe. Seems pretty silly.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2239091]This is what it looks like on my screen from the Forum - Asia menu page.[/QUOTE]Same as mine. No real trouble in finding it. But I see Westy's point too. If your preferred mode of access is through the screen shot Westy sent, then it can be a real hassle.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2239411]Same as mine. No real trouble in finding it. But I see Westy's point too. If your preferred mode of access is through the screen shot Westy sent, then it can be a real hassle.[/QUOTE]I use the following in a shortcut, it opens Firefox to the main Philippine page and the Cebu page on a different tab.
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox. Exe" [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?247-The-Ph[/URL] [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/URL].
I imagine that other browsers have a similar command line syntax.
"Drive:\program path\program name. Exe" URL1 URL 2 etc.
Alternatively you can group the sites you want to open in a bookmark folder and then click on "Open all in tabs".
I actually have several different shortcuts on my desktop that each open a different set of tabs, i.e. My favourite news feeds, my fitness sites etc. Think of it as having multiple sets of home tabs depending on what you want to do right then.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2239349]
RK, its possible that we are seeing a different page upon login.[/QUOTE]That's the problem WC.
You need to rejig your access as per KB's advice.
Heaven forbid we ever go back to the dog's breakfast that used to be the old Cebu forum.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2239504]That's the problem WC.
You need to rejig your access as per KB's advice.
Heaven forbid we ever go back to the dog's breakfast that used to be the old Cebu forum.[/QUOTE]Well said RK as I was thinking the same when I saw Westies screen shot as it was a real dog's breakfast before and now manageable.
A recent press link. Is well known and has been noted before here but these tend to remind us of how bad it can go and how slow it is to get out of the mire.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/justice-australian-cebu-jail-fie-years/[/URL]
Plenty more example on that news site also.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2239504]Heaven forbid we ever go back to the dog's breakfast that used to be the old Cebu forum.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2239705]Well said RK as I was thinking the same when I saw Westies screen shot as it was a real dog's breakfast before and now manageable.[/QUOTE]It maybe the opinion of senior members of this forum that the Cebu Forum was a dog's breakfast.
But let us have a look at some facts. One good measure of the accessibility of a forum is by looking at the number of postings lodged by members. Since January 1 2017 there have been 358 postings to the Makati forum, which in effect is a sub-set of Manila. In the same period, since January 1 2017, there have been 221 postings to the Davao forum, an area where international travel advisories say high risk, and which for Mindanao is still under martial law, which would deter many from visiting.
Yet in that period there have been just 58 field reports posted for Cebu. In fact in 2017 there were more reports posted in the Dumaguete forum (6) than general field reports posted for Cebu's general reports (3) for 2017!
The current outburst re access to Cebu information was prompted by Marlboro Red:
[QUOTE=MarlboroRed;2237851] Any suggestion for Cebu? I am going next week, so any tips or guides would be nice. I have read the forum by yay not the most popular place in PH for a single guy.[/QUOTE]I can fully understand how difficult it is to for most to scroll through the existing index for the Philippines to find Cebu positioned way down under "User Bloggs" and one position above Turdycurdyone's reply blogs. And then Cebu is still a couple of clicks away. And in doing so finding comparatively little information for the size that Cebu is.
What Jackson (the owner) needs to do in my opinion is to review the ease of access to Cebu from the main Philippines menu as a "Thread Title" and not as a "User Blog". In doing so, we can perhaps question why Cebu is raised to the level of an Asian country in one of the indexes.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2239854]A recent press link. Is well known and has been noted before here but these tend to remind us of how bad it can go and how slow it is to get out of the mire.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/justice-australian-cebu-jail-fie-years/[/URL]
Plenty more example on that news site also.[/QUOTE]While keeping a low profile is always advisable, I do feel that the threat of lengthy incarceration of a foreigner for minor transgressions here is somewhat overstated. However if you are the one guy in a million, then it was understated.
According to the official web site.
[URL]https://www.bjmp.gov.ph/datstat.html[/URL]
As of May there were a total of 309 foreign detainees here. Over a third of them (110) were Chinese, add in the Koreans (27) and Taiwanese (19) and you get to over half. There were 28 Americans, 12 Aussies, 5 Brits and 2 Canadians. Indians (18) and Nigerians (14) are the only other countries in the double digits.
I did find recent news stories about several Canadians arrested for drug charges but they do not appear to show up on these stats. Three possibilities: They were released and deported (perhaps prisoner reparation?) They have dual citizenship and are counted in the second country totals. (There are some categories for people with dual citizenship, mostly fil and another citizenship.) Third possibility is that the official numbers are incorrect, either accidentally or due to a measure of incompetence and / or corruption.
Personally I believe that everyone in jail is there for one reason or another. It may be that they are actually guilty, it may be that they were innocent and just pissed off the police and the police are getting their revenge or it may be corruption or some other issue.
I think that everyone ever jailed here had lots of opportunities to get out of it, it may have cost a considerable amount of cash in on the spot no receipt fines paid or even later paying "fines" and getting put on an aircraft home.
My bottom line is to do everything possible to avoid ever being in official contact with the police. If I witness a crime or an accident, I'll just keep walking, if accused of a crime, I'll do whatever it takes to resolve the issue at as low a level as possible.
Remember if a second cop ever shows up, the spot fines just doubled, more if the second cop is a higher rank than the first cop, If a dozen cops show up the spot fines will be huge. If I ever had to pay a large spot fine, I'd give serious consideration to simply getting on the next plane to another country, then take another aircraft from there to a third place pretty quickly. They may just like their first taste so much that they come back for more. I have nothing in this country that I would not walk away from in a heartbeat if I deemed it necessary to save myself.
Always have a run bag packed and ready to go. I've done this in one form or another ever since we made an emergency pack when I was a Boy Scout over 50 years ago. (Contents right now: passport, significant papers, two week supply of any essential meds, cash, nutrition bars, phone charger and power bank, first aid kit couple changes shirts, underwear and socks, pair of pants and a tooth brush. Grab a water bottle at the door on my way out and I am ready for just about anything.).
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Personally I believe that everyone in jail is there for one reason or another. It may be that they are actually guilty, it may be that they were innocent and just pissed off the police and the police are getting their revenge or it may be corruption or some other issue.
I think that everyone ever jailed here had lots of opportunities to get out of it, it may have cost a considerable amount of cash in on the spot no receipt fines paid or even later paying "fines" and getting put on an aircraft home.[/QUOTE]I was once on a plane with a US Consular official who was doing the rounds visiting all his fellow citizens in jails. He wouldn't speak about individual cases but he made it very clear that he considered them complete idiots as they:
1/ were stupid enough to do the crime or sufficiently pis off the wrong people in the first place.
2/ were so small fry that no one cares about bailing them out.
3/ had no means or plans to save themselves at the very earliest stages of a problem and.
4/ often expected others to come running to their aid.
I agree that the best remedy is to fly well below the radar to avoid any problems in the first place and, should anything come up, sort it out as soon and as low as possible.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2240199]I was once on a plane with a US Consular official who was doing the rounds visiting all his fellow citizens in jails. He wouldn't speak about individual cases but he made it very clear that he considered them complete idiots as they:
1/ were stupid enough to do the crime or sufficiently pis off the wrong people in the first place.
2/ were so small fry that no one cares about bailing them out.
3/ had no means or plans to save themselves at the very earliest stages of a problem and.
4/ often expected others to come running to their aid.
I agree that the best remedy is to fly well below the radar to avoid any problems in the first place and, should anything come up, sort it out as soon and as low as possible.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you.
Some dumbass Americans really think the US Marines are going to come soon and break down the prison walls to get them!
The only saving them will be the Army of Benjamins.