Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Turgid;2522140]Even though I have not been to Scandallo I do believe I have completed my rite of manhood. I have been to Madaho's and Blacks in Buenos Aires in their heyday prior to 2010. I have also been to Malioboro, Jakarta. Even though I have not been to Macao I have been to Chang Ping, China with its numerous saunas and KTVs in its heyday prior to 2014.

Romanian girls at FKKs are darlings but they are mostly all pimped and have boyfriends and even husbands so its difficult to get them really into you, their true sentiments lie elsewhere. Most of the Brazilian providers in the boites and clinicas will tend to be freelancers and not under any 'contract' to anyone. As a result there will be a greater chance of them being genuinely into you.[/QUOTE]As you get deeper into the Garota de Programa world it may surprise many to learn that most of the girls are at the very least bisexual. Attribute it to having sex with men they are not really into all day and comradery. Misery loves company.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2522159]The Chinese government cracked down hard on Changping / Dongquan before I could make a visit. It looked amazing. It probably rivaled Bangkok / Pattaya in its heyday. The growing notoriety of this Southern sex paradise clearly pissed off the Northern spoilsports.

Yes, it seems Brazilian working girls can be "genuinely" into you. I think they are very into having fun in the moment with whoever and wherever which makes for a great vibe and great sex. Lastly, it's not so unusual for an attractive young Brasilian working girl to partner with an affluent foreign man. Many have friends or acquaintances living in Europe and North America with husbands or boyfriends. Yes, it's the "Pretty Woman" dream.[/QUOTE]Yeah they are different. So those that don't recall Thifany was the girl I fell for in a Boate in Campinas. Fucked her twice. Once solo and once with her friend. We got on so well I flew her to London and it remains the best week of my life.

When we got back home we started planning another meetup but after 3 months she ghosts me and I am devastated. Another 3 months go by and I happen upon her Instagram and we get back in touch. She says she's engaged to be married. Boo.

It's bittersweet because I care for her and wish her the best of luck. She comes back with (in Portuguese of course):

"What? Nothing has changed. He knows what I do from time to time. And he does too. Also he likes men. We should meetup. ".

LOL. Only a Brasileira:

1. Flies to London after knowing you for five hours.

2. Gets engaged right after.

3. Says it doesn't change anything. Want to fuck me AND my husband?

Kkkkkk!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2522159]Yes, it seems Brazilian working girls can be "genuinely" into you. I think they are very into having fun in the moment with whoever and wherever which makes for a great vibe and great sex. Lastly, it's not so unusual for an attractive young Brasilian working girl to partner with an affluent foreign man. Many have friends or acquaintances living in Europe and North America with husbands or boyfriends. Yes, it's the "Pretty Woman" dream.[/QUOTE]Especially girls that speaks English which I usually stay away from now I speak porto LOL.

Many girls still have dreams of living in the US so those girls will "like" you more and should ask for less for a programa.

Most girls in boates that are hot make well over 10 k reais a month and is the amount most will ask for to not work anymore. But if she really likes you, she will accept any amount.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2522159]The Chinese government cracked down hard on Changping / Dongquan before I could make a visit. It looked amazing. It probably rivaled Bangkok / Pattaya in its heyday. The growing notoriety of this Southern sex paradise clearly pissed off the Northern spoilsports.

....[/QUOTE]In tabulating my trips between the years 2000 and 2010 I have made the most to Chang Ping, followed by Singapore, then Buenos Aires, Argentina and fourth Germany. My trips to Thailand and Brazil were less. This correlates to my comparison of the destinations. So in almost one fell swoop my three favorite destinations were no more. My current three favorites are Germany, Thailand and Brazil in that order. The demise of covid 19 can't come soon enough for me to resume partaking.

Steve,

You still had more fun than most do in a lifetime and are legend on this board!

And no, trust me it is not only in Brazil!!

Rock on!!

Stranger.

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2522283]Especially girls that speaks English which I usually stay away from now I speak porto LOL.

Many girls still have dreams of living in the US so those girls will "like" you more and should ask for less for a programa.

Most girls in boates that are hot make well over 10 k reais a month and is the amount most will ask for to not work anymore. But if she really likes you, she will accept any amount.[/QUOTE]Some will not accept 10 k. They ask 500 per hour, some even 1000, so they will not accept 10 k, because they do much more. There is a sort of price cartel. If a girl has friends asking 500, she will ask 500, no matter what. If she thinks she is in that range, that is what she is going to ask. One thing I noticed is that they are stubborn. They do renounce to a potential client because of 50 or even 20 reais. I mean, if a girl is asking 500 + Uber, which is maybe 30/40 reais total, and you offer 500 transport included, the girl will say no. They want to be paid exactly what they ask. Some are more intelligent, they compromise, but some are really stupid.

Yes, it happened. I met her on Tinder. One thing I noticed is that Tinder is much more serious than in Europe. I mean, my age on Tinder is 35 (I'm older but I do look in my 30). In Europe I do match with young girl, even in their early 20. In Brazil I do not. I do match only with girls around 30. In Europe, I do match with younger girls, mostly interested in my money. Some looking for a fine dinner or gifts. A lot of girls with OnlyFans or SnapChat in Europe, here in Brazil, no one. You just match with girls you do effectively have a chance. And they do swap on you because they like you.

So, this girl is 32, definitely attractive. She is about to get a boob job, because they all do, soon or later. Impressive how many girls have silicon boobs here, even more than in Colombia. Girls in Sao Paulo are much more beautiful than Colombians. I think Brazil comes first in the world, maybe it's even better than Russia or Ukraine. On average, I mean, there are so many hot girls you don't find anywhere else.

Let's speak about the freebie. We spoke a bit on Tinder, then we moved on WhatsApp, good chemistry, then she asked me for a video call. We met the day after in front of the MASP museum. We immediately kissed, like immediately. She slept two days in a row at my place, basically she didn't leave me for two days, then I had enough, and I sent her home. Since I'm working I told her I didn't have time. I'm going to see her again. Compared to the girls I do pay, this one was so much more into it, because she really likes me. She is really emotional, she even cried once.

I should meet another girl tomorrow, this one as well I met on Tinder. I got to know one other in a shopping center, got her number, she messaged me, but then she didn't meet me. Now, just to be clear, I do look much younger, but I'm not that attractive, so it's still possible to get a freebie in Brazil, and it's much better than a girl you pay. I should have tried before. I do speak Spanish a bit, but my Portuguese sucks. To hit on a girl I need to find the right moment. If there are people around I don't go for it, I don't like to be rejected, so I'm not even so good at pick-up girls. I mean, if I can pick up, everyone else can, as long as you have a bit of courage, and you don't look like Quasimodo.

For the first 2 weeks I didn't even use Tinder, then I tried and since it's a shitty app, it fucked up my profile and I lost my contacts. So I have uninstalled the app. Only 10 days ago I started to use it again. Fuck me. Anyway, I have approached a few girls, and they are all very friendly, much more than in Colombia, especially when I tell them where I'm from. Unfortunately I'm working now, so I don't have much time, but I'm sure I could have fucked for free a few girls if my focus was Tinder.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2523085]Some will not accept 10 k. They ask 500 per hour, some even 1000, so they will not accept 10 k, There is a sort of price cartel. If a girl has friends asking 500, she will ask 500, no matter what. If she thinks she is in that range, that is what a girl is asking. They want to be paid exactly what they ask. Some are more intelligent, they compromise, but some are really stupid.[/QUOTE]In a situation as you describe, the strategy (if you really want the girl) is to not dispute, bicker, or negotiate her price: accept and agree she needs to be paid exactly what she asks. And then, you tell her the level and type of service that you will accept for her price. At that point, you can either negotiate price or in the face of stubborn stupidity, always simply walk away. Admittedly, I'm not someone who negotiates, that's more the realm of the hardcore johns.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2523092]Yes, it happened. I met her on Tinder. One thing I noticed is that Tinder is much more serious than in Europe. I mean, my age on Tinder is 35 (I'm older but I do look in my 30). In Europe I do match with young girl, even in their early 20. In Brazil I do not. I do match only with girls around 30. In Europe, I do match with younger girls, mostly interested in my money. Some looking for a fine dinner or gifts. A lot of girls with OnlyFans or SnapChat in Europe, here in Brazil, no one. You just match with girls you do effectively have a chance. And they do swap on you because they like you.

So, this girl is 32, definitely attractive. She is about to get a boob job, because they all do, soon or later. Impressive how many girls have silicon boobs here, even more than in Colombia. Girls in Sao Paulo are much more beautiful than Colombians. I think Brazil comes first in the world, maybe it's even better than Russia or Ukraine. On average, I mean, there are so many hot girls you don't find anywhere else..[/QUOTE]Sorry mate but need to disagree here.

I liked Brazil, it is nice destination, people are warm but average looking girl is not in top 20 in the world.

Yeah you can find some gems but generally find Brazolan girls not so attractive.

Tinder sucks in Brazil from my experience.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2523085]Some will not accept 10 k. They ask 500 per hour, some even 1000, so they will not accept 10 k, because they do much more. There is a sort of price cartel. If a girl has friends asking 500, she will ask 500, no matter what. If she thinks she is in that range, that is what she is going to ask. One thing I noticed is that they are stubborn. They do renounce to a potential client because of 50 or even 20 reais. I mean, if a girl is asking 500 + Uber, which is maybe 30/40 reais total, and you offer 500 transport included, the girl will say no. They want to be paid exactly what they ask. Some are more intelligent, they compromise, but some are really stupid.[/QUOTE]Had girls ask for 1000, said I usually pay 500, they settle for 600. Girls that have been there long are usually good because they are there for repeat clients. One's that are there for a short time do not care about providing good service.

So I happened upon Hello Talk because some guys in Japan use it to pick up hotties. I always thought it was like Tinder. Doh! Not at all. It's for meeting a penpal who speaks the language. It's super well done and AMAZINGLY helpful. You can't use it well if I don't know any Portuguese. But if you are trying to learn you can chat with tons of people of both sexes. I just chat with the hotties but it is an amazing way to build you skills because it has built in translate plus the other person can correct you.

Like just today I learned you can use "to" instead of "estou" in texting. I already knew about vc and rs and a few others. But it's only in usage you learn these things. Plus a lot of the girls are hot 21-24 so who knows.

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[QUOTE=TuneFor;2523314]Sorry mate but need to disagree here.

I liked Brazil, it is nice destination, people are warm but average looking girl is not in top 20 in the world.

Yeah you can find some gems but generally find Brazolan girls not so attractive.

Tinder sucks in Brazil from my experience.[/QUOTE]It depends. What are you looking for? If you are looking to get an escort on Tinder, then you'll have no luck in Brasil. Tinder is really used to meet people and hook up, it's not used to promote OnlyFans, SnapChat or to get clients. Which is good. In fact, I got one freebie, she slept over a few nights. I didn't pay a thing. Sure, I ordered food for both of us, we had a couple of dinners, but nothing more. No gifts, nothing. I think with a few changes to my profile and a better commitment, I could have had much better results. 3 other girls wanted to meet me, but they weren't pretty enough. With one I made a video call and she basically invited me over. But I wasn't brave enough. Another wanted to be my Cicerone, but I was too busy fucking prostitute to waste my time with her. I have seen it's really hard to match with young girls, unfortunately. For example in Colombia many girls were accepting my friendship on Facebook, in Brazil just a few, a really small percentage. This girl I met, the freebie, she had 1000 matches on Tinder. I have seen it. I was like, wtf. I mean, I had 10.

There we go again. Malls and restaurants closed 24/24 during week-ends. On week-days closing time at 8 pm.

[QUOTE=XXL;2524781]There we go again. Malls and restaurants closed 24/24 during week-ends. On week-days closing time at 8 pm.[/QUOTE]Is the Mercado Municipal considered a mall? Will it be closed also?

What do they consider the weekend — Saturday and Sunday? Or is Friday also included?

Thanks.