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[QUOTE=RedKilt;2250955]Qantas has now transferred operations to T3 in Manila and I just passed through the brand spanking new PAGSS lounge assigned to them for Qantas Club and Business Class passengers.

What an amazing difference to the primitive lounge facilities that were previously available at T1!

Not only is it new and glitzy but everything is "state of the art" , actually works and they have so many attendants that I was half-expecting someone to hold my dick.

Now if only there was a smoother way of getting into and away from the whole bloody terminal.[/QUOTE]Good news as I remember the 'lounge' for Emirates in T1 years ago where the mice would been in between the food at times LOL Added flavour to rather boring sandwiches LOL.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2248093]There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.
[/QUOTE]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2251201]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.

GE.[/QUOTE]+1.

You get what you give. What goes around comes around.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2248093]There is nothing new here. Chochamongers have never liked filippinas, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of filippinas but do not have much use for filippinas themselves as persons.

Chochamongers spend a lot of effort trying to get laid. They apply ED meds to their foreskins and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to restore libido. They are not anti-white, but definitely anti-foreigner in a petty, envious spiteful sort of way. Chochamongers dream of putting the filippina in the subservient position where they can extract sex to fund an easy lazy luxurious sexlife for themselves.[/QUOTE]There it is.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2251201]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.

GE.[/QUOTE]GE,

It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.

It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.

If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2251232]GE,

It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.

It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.

If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]You are assuming CM has been anywhere. No field reports that he has been anywhere nor has he gotten any pussy.

In my experiences Filipinos have been pretty tolerant of foreigners to say the least. And especially for the least of the foreigners.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2251201]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.

GE.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not but your view and CM's views of life here are both tainted by the same basis and from over extrapolation of the data.

There are some 100 plus million people on the islands; they like people everywhere will cover the full spectrum of views and attitudes throughout the population. To get a good statistically reliable estimation of the population you need to sample over 1,000 people chosen totally at random from the population. Even then you will only be within 3 to 4 percent of the actual population's attitudes on any given issue 95% of the time.

You both suffer from selection biases. In your case you are interacting mostly with people who are friendly to foreigners and therefore your data sample is overrepresented of people who are friendly to foreigners. In CM's case he interacts with people who are unfriendly to foreigners and his conclusions have a similar deficit but in the opposite direction.

That then leads to a confirmation bias. Let's say you both talk to the same individual, he states that he doesn't like foreigners who come here and take all the girls but like the economic activity that they bring. You would count him as a foreigner friendly person, just one with some limited reservations. CM would count him as a foreigner unfriendly person only interested in foreign money.

I'll also hazard a guess, not having ever met either of you that you are a friendly person. People will tend to naturally react to you in a friendly manner. I'the guess the opposite about CM. That would be a contamination of the results by interviewer interaction.

My personal view is that you cannot generalize about a population as diverse as the Philippines. You have everything from major metropolitan areas like Manila and Cebu to extremely rural and impoverished areas in the provinces. You will have a few people at the extremes, foreigner lovers and foreigner haters, you will have the vast majority of people in the middle with anything from no strong opinions either way to those who like and hate some of the issues with foreigners. (Remember at any given time there will be somewhere around a million of us here and we too will exhibit a wide range of behavior and attitudes that will be reflected back to us.).

[QUOTE=Goferring;2251232]GE,

It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.

It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.

If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Well, m sorry I can not pick your advice. I can not allow you to have them alone.

While sitting out front of the ABC Hotel after dark last night enjoying the lovely ladies walking by a group of well dressed kids came by, two boys and one girl. I say well dressed bc what happened surprised me. The girl looked to be about 13 the youngest boy, about 7, the boy came up to me and said do you want my sister? At that point she walked over and told me the boy was her brother. I told her what her brother had said to me. I asked her how old she was and said 16. Ha ha. She said "do you know how to fuck, I do"? She says with pride. I guess 12 or 13 is doable in this place. I told her you are too young and they left after some hard sell talk. I know this happens but first time for me.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2248093]There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.Filipinos spend a lot of effort trying to become white. They apply toxic creams to their skin and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to bleach their skins white. They are not anti-white but they are definitely anti-foreigner in a petty envious spiteful sort of way. Filipinos dream of putting the foreigner in the subservient position where they can extract his cash to fund an easy lazy luxurious lifestyle for themselves.There is no grand aspiration to eject all whites and build an independently wealthy homeland. Almost every Filipino plan to acquire wealth involves ensnaring a foreigner or traveling to a foreign country to work.[/QUOTE]The skin whitening stuff really grates with me on so many levels. CM's other main point about Scam Central is logical and true, even if it is a generalisation. Low life hookers, like any other peddlers of raw meat, have their own lives and customers, as they call the Viagra Genetration, are, by an large, only transients there to pay the bill and, for the smarter ones, to leech on to. Most folk marry neighbours, not some hand me down Pinay hooker.

These Pinays are making wise choices, given their situation of living in a cleptocracy.

The real scum in tyher Philippines are the parasitic rich and those who support and empower them.

Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?

Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2252680]Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?

Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I've never had that problem. As soon as I've paid the bar fine, she's off to get changed and then we're out the door! On a serious note, I don't know.

In Cebu at one of the Mango Square bars, the mamasan said I couldn't take the girl out until I had bought four LDs in addition to the bar fine. I didn't quite get what was going on there.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2252643]While sitting out front of the ABC Hotel after dark last night enjoying the lovely ladies walking by a group of well dressed kids came by, two boys and one girl. I say well dressed bc what happened surprised me. The girl looked to be about 13 the youngest boy, about 7, the boy came up to me and said do you want my sister? At that point she walked over and told me the boy was her brother. I told her what her brother had said to me. I asked her how old she was and said 16. Ha ha. She said "do you know how to fuck, I do"? She says with pride. I guess 12 or 13 is doable in this place. I told her you are too young and they left after some hard sell talk. I know this happens but first time for me.[/QUOTE]A similar thing happened to me in AC. I was sitting at the front counter at Phillies, watching the world go by and a street urchin came past with his begging cup. He would have been about 7 years old. He then asked "Blow job sir?" I looked at the Brit next to me and we were shocked. I just told him to go away. Obviously, this sort of thing happens in AC and he would appear to have customers.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2252680]Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?

Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?[/QUOTE]From my very limited experiences (in a few bars in Angeles and maybe in Sabang many years ago), it's up to you. It wouldn't make sense for the owner not to accept additional sales. I guess each bar would make its own policy.

Of course the girl is going to want a lady's drink for her commission. And if I insist on a normal drink, I feel like a cheap charlie.

What's the current case in Sabang? LD? A good way to get info is to talk to a waitress you tip, without anyone around, and ask away.

One of the cuties I barfined from La Bamba explained to me how the salary scales and incentives work at her bar.

Waitresses are paid 120 PHP per night and get to keep all tips. They also get commissions from LDs.

Dancers are paid 170 PHP minimum per night, but this can increase to 420 PHP per night depending on their sales for the previous week. They have a sliding scale. They work on the basis that 18 LDs are equal to one barfine. If a girl hits 75 LDs in a week, her salary the following week will be 420 PHP per night. A girl will generally need three bar fines a week (54 LDs) plus the reminder in drink sales to hit the maximum salary target. Girls generally get 50% of the barfine.

Now you know why they all order SM Apple Beer as that's a double LD, enabling them to hit the target sooner.