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[QUOTE=GreenBud;2252719]From my very limited experiences (in a few bars in Angeles and maybe in Sabang many years ago), it's up to you. It wouldn't make sense for the owner not to accept additional sales. I guess each bar would make its own policy.

Of course the girl is going to want a lady's drink for her commission. And if I insist on a normal drink, I feel like a cheap charlie.

What's the current case in Sabang? LD? A good way to get info is to talk to a waitress you tip, without anyone around, and ask away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252709]I've never had that problem. As soon as I've paid the bar fine, she's off to get changed and then we're out the door! On a serious note, I don't know.[/QUOTE]I should emphasise I'm not out to Cheap Charlie the girls. I'm happy to buy LDs during the interview process and until I make up my mind. No hard feelings if we don't leave together.

Generally I'm talking about when a few guys grab a few girls and hit the town. Often we return to the girl's bar after she has been bar fined for a few drinks. In this case I see no issue with buying normals as she is already guaranteed income from the interview LDs, a cut of the BF and any tip. It always makes more sense to me to give 100% of a tip rather than a portion of the LD.

I'm not big on hit and run STs but agree it would not apply in that case as no one would be hanging around in the bar (s).

Last time I was in Sabang, once you bar fined a girl all drinks were normals. Some would try their luck but it was never a problem when I pointed out that I had already paid the BF.

There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:

1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.

2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.

3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.

4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.

5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.

6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.

7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252905]There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:

1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.

2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.

3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.

4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.

5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.

6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.

7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.[/QUOTE]I had to deal with all these aspects of mongering over the past 20+ years. Item #1 never bothered me, but many of my non-monger buddies love to hear my stories and look at my pics. It has become a routine, and a few ended making their first trip.

#2 is a big hassle for me, as I have another FB page for mongering. Very hard to maintain complete separation between the two, given that FB continually changes the meaning for various privacy settings. At times, it feels like they go out of their way to expose me.

#3, thru #7 were a concern for me early in my mongering life. Not anymore.

Folks,

I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.

My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235]Folks,

I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.

My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]How long is a piece of string?

Depends on the day and time of your flight IMHO. I have done it in just over 2 hours but that was a quiet Sunday. I have done it on a Friday afternoon and that was just impossibly slow. If you assume you need to be at NAIA 2 hrs before the flight so 745 am then you leave mid morning (early) latest.

I am one to be at the airport early regardless of how good or bad the facilities there are. So I would allow 3 hrs at that time of day and leave around 430 am (latest).

Others will have differing experiences for sure so take all into account before making up your mind as much depends on the day.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252905]There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
[/QUOTE]Bear in mind, a lot of what is posted can be pure fiction. If it was so bad, you either wouldn't keep doing it, or you would have changed up your routine. No offense, but the reasons you gave run contrary to my logic. If it was common for posters to be "feeling down during a mongering trip", they'd probably quit mongering and never bother to discuss it here.

Personally, I got bummed out with regular relationships, so I quit dating, or even trying ordinary romances. I happen to prefer punting. If I get disenchanted with it, I will quit. If I ever meet someone worth dating, I'll ask her out. But at my age, it will be hard to find younger, attractive, physically fit woman who will submit to my wishes with no strings attached, low maintenance or ongoing obligations.

You can leave AC very early in the morning, may be around 3. 30 or 4.00 a. a to reach Manila airport (NAIA) at least three hours before your flight. But it is advisable that you leave AC one day before and stay in a hotel near Mall of Asia or Malate / Ermita so that you don't miss you flight. I have taken flights from Manila to Jakarta twice at around the same time 09 40 am And both times I stayed in hotels in Malate (Armada Hotel) / Ermita (Tropicana Suites).

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235] Folks, I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235]Folks,

I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.

My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I personally don't like the stress of getting up early in the morning and driving for hours whether by car or bus to catch my flight. Several years ago was the last time I went by car on a Sunday afternoon to NAIA to catch a flight home. I had figured 3 hours driving time was plenty to allow for Sunday afternoon and I would be there 3 hours prior to flight time. It took over 5 hours driving and I barely made the cutoff time for baggage check in. 5 minutes later and I was watching people unload clothes into clear plastic airline bags to carry on the flight.

I travel a day or two before my flight to Manila and book a hotel in Pasay or Makati. I have a proven AC girl come with me or meet me in Manila for a pleasurable last night there. There are plenty of girls who are happy to travel to or meet me in Manila. I take care of the transportation and pay them the normal barfine amount. They usually go to NAIA with me and I put them on the Genesis bus back to AC from terminal 3.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252905]There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:

1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.

2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.

3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.

4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.

5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.

6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.

7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.[/QUOTE]Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it.

To counteract the feelings I do the following -.

1. Realize its fantasy not reality. I see it as my reward for working my ass off and putting up with crap day after day in my normal life.

2. Luckily I have someone to come back to who I know will always be there. Touch wood.

3. I have learnt that 3 wks is about my maximum before I need to go back home and tire of the fantasy world. Work out what is your limit.

4. As in point 1 I keep it real. If I have a bad experience so what. Tomorrow will be better. Don't care what others get or do. What I get or do is what concerns me. Based on reports here I seem to get better than most. Not sure why but I think its because I be myself, treat girls as people and have a realistic attitude. If I can't perform I just laugh. I know there will come a time when this will all end. Enjoy it while I can. I find bad experiences are more of a nuisance than stressful.

I always keep it firmly planted in my head that I have the $$ and they want it. I am not an arrogant bastard but won't let them dictate or let them feel like they have the power of the pussy. One of my favourite lines is " I don't HAVE to fuck you, there is a girl 10 minutes away who will want to and if I don't fuck tonight I know I will probably fuck tomorrow night" Remember you are over 50 - how many fucks have you had in your life? Exactly. Do you think if you miss out on 1 its going to make any difference?

5. Post trip depression doesn't hit so hard when you know 3/6 mnths you will be back again. Keep it in perspective.

6. Time with the girls is a business transaction. Its $ for sex. Keep it that way. Yes there can be feelings but chances of something real and long lasting is about 2%.

7. To me there is no difference between a girl cleaning my apartment, giving me a massage or having sex with me (I know others disagree) They are using their body to provide me with a service and they get a payment for it. - Women do it all over the world for $, prestige or security and its not called prostitution its called marriage.

So that's just my views. I may be way off. But then again the most important question I believe in life is. Are you happy?

If not, and I don't mean amazingly happy 24/7, change something.

NI.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2253251]Bear in mind, a lot of what is posted can be pure fiction. If it was so bad, you either wouldn't keep doing it, or you would have changed up your routine. No offense, but the reasons you gave run contrary to my logic. If it was common for posters to be "feeling down during a mongering trip", they'd probably quit mongering and never bother to discuss it here.
[/QUOTE]Going by your previous posts, you seem to be always critical of other people's views. Are you a psychiatrist to comment on mental health?

FFS, they are just points for discussion if people feel inclined to contribute.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2253341]Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it.

To counteract the feelings I do the following -.

1. Realize its fantasy not reality. I see it as my reward for working my ass off and putting up with crap day after day in my normal life.

2. Luckily I have someone to come back to who I know will always be there. Touch wood.

3. I have learnt that 3 wks is about my maximum before I need to go back home and tire of the fantasy world. Work out what is your limit.

4. As in point 1 I keep it real. If I have a bad experience so what. Tomorrow will be better. Don't care what others get or do. What I get or do is what concerns me. Based on reports here I seem to get better than most. Not sure why but I think its because I be myself, treat girls as people and have a realistic attitude. If I can't perform I just laugh. I know there will come a time when this will all end. Enjoy it while I can. I find bad experiences are more of a nuisance than stressful..[/QUOTE]An aged cock prone to going limp at the most inopportune times, saggy balls, and depression about not being able to get it up are all part of being an old man. It is all perfectly normal, as is libido falling off a cliff with increasing age. Old man mongers need a combination of antidepressants, testosterone replacement therapy, and Viagra to keep it up and going beyond 55 years of age.

Research shows that antidepressants restore lost libido in defeated male lobsters to the point where they would return to fight the dominant male again for the rights to fuck female lobsters. The same basic concepts apply to depressed aged mongers with cock problems. They should consult a geriatrician and look into gerontology services that support elder sexual changes.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235]Folks,

I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.

My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It depends on what day you are going. Generally speaking, travel time will take you about 1. 5 hours through Roxas Boulevard and Macapagal Ave and into the new express ramp that leads to the airport to avoid the traffic at EDSA. I usually stay in Ermita area the night before my flight so I won't rush and still enjoy a good morning shag.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2253341]Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it..[/QUOTE]4 weeks ago I promised myself I would do that. But the transactional nature of western style mongering on home soil is just so bad. Pay you money and you get one hour. If overseas in Asia, pay one fifth of the price and she stays all night. Pay less for short time.

Case in point, one hour in a AMP here costs AUD $60 + $100 for inclusive extras. That's about P6,500 for one hour (deduct time for washup, shower and dressing). Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey.

BD.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2253836]4 weeks ago I promised myself I would do that. But the transactional nature of western style mongering on home soil is just so bad. Pay you money and you get one hour. If overseas in Asia, pay one fifth of the price and she stays all night. Pay less for short time.

Case in point, one hour in a AMP here costs AUD $60 + $100 for inclusive extras. That's about P6,500 for one hour (deduct time for washup, shower and dressing). Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey.

BD.[/QUOTE]I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines. Unfortunately the member doesn't receive messages from me for some reason. Having gone to the time to write a reply to that person, I'm just going ot post it here.

[QUOTE=xxxxx]"Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey".

If you add cost of getting to Phils (AIRFARES , taxis , trains , buses , whatever) and cost of hotels , restaurants , and risk of STD's , corrupt police , inability of girls to communicate at a decent level , you are paying MORE , much more for Phil sex , with added health and personal safety risks , etc. Add pollution , being hassled in the streets , to the mix..[/QUOTE]Well I'm a top tier frequent flyer and the company pays my airfares. The flying is fun.

My company pays for airport transfers when I use them.

I get a daily travel allowance of AUD190 or P7,220.

Medicare covers blood tests and PBS subsidies medicines.

For me Philippines is cash flow positive.

If I was self-funding then I would take a return $462 Cebu pacific flight SYD-MNL.

Return Genesis bus (leaves from CP terminal) $20.

Stay in my AirBNB FR 7 nights $140.

Girl (s) per day $50/ day $350.

7 days of sex with overnights for under $1,000.

Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.

BD.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2254128]I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines.

.....

For me Philippines is cash flow positive.

If I was self-funding then I would take a return $462 Cebu pacific flight SYD-MNL.

....


Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.

BD.[/QUOTE]$AUS 462 is about a quarter the cost of a return flight from North America. (My last one was $CDN 2200 or so).

Changes the economics slightly, especially for people on short trerm visits. I just stay long enough to amortize the flight cost over a couple hundred girls LOL.