Probably because of cheap labor and Romania is a poor country even by CEE standards. You can find plenty of nationalities including Germans and other Western Europeans in the sex industry.
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Probably because of cheap labor and Romania is a poor country even by CEE standards. You can find plenty of nationalities including Germans and other Western Europeans in the sex industry.
[QUOTE=Foreman371;2090000] as opposed to girls from any other poor eastern European country like Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Moldova, Bosnia, Macedonia and so on?[/QUOTE]It almost sounds like you are implying something more here. But if taking you literally, then only Bulgaria is part of EU out of the countries you mention. And so the other ones you mention are not legally allowed to work in Germany etc. There are also tons of Bulgarian girls working in Germany, but it is a smaller country than Romania. I recall walking around in frankfurt rld once and I felt there were more Bulgarians than Romanians there actually.
A very large portion of the Romanians are also roma (gypsies) people, and not ethnic Romanian. I don't know the percentages as some try to hide it, but I would guess over 50% of the 'Romanians' are.
It's obvious. Romania and Bulgaria are the poorest countries within the EU. And Romanians seem to have less problems with selling their bodies than Bulgarians, so there's 80% Romanian, 5% Bulgarian and 15% other in the industry.
[QUOTE=Foreman371;2090000]From personal experience I have noticed that most working girls in Germany, Austria and Switzerland are Romanian, in some FKK clubs I estimate about 80%. Even in Barcelona and Greece, most eastern European girls come from Romania.
A question for FKK lovers, why is the overwhelming majority of girls Romanian? Don't get me wrong I have nothing against Romanians I'm just curious what is so special about Romania that makes so many of their women travel all over Europe to work, as opposed to girls from any other poor eastern European country like Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Moldova, Bosnia, Macedonia and so on? It is highly doubtful that Romanian women enjoy this kind of work so much more than women from other countries.[/QUOTE]Romania is one of the poorest country with high young population, they don t need a visa, several years back the were girls from Hungary, polen, Germany, France etc. But they all find another way to live without needing to fuck 20 or 30 guys every day.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2089887]Kranjska Gora (spelling is probably wrong) just across the Slovenian border 10 min drive away is also a discount good ski resort with fis competitions.[/QUOTE]For skiing around Wellcum, I would advice around Klagenfurt. At, Tarvisio. It very close to the border, and the really exceptionnal Cortina the Ampezzo in wonderful Dolomiti. Carinthians around Wellcum are only baby Dolomiti.
Only short tracks in small Slovenian mountains. Only slalom and giant in FIS, for Maribor, Zagreb and Granjka Gora.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2088857]I will be there around same time. Hotel price is high. I am sure there are some exhibitions going on. You may want to stay close to whatever FKK if you don't drive. Let me know if you like to meet.[/QUOTE]I figured car rental is the best choice even if I choose to stay in hotel in Darmstadt ,
my plan is to visit sharks , so if you will be there ill see you there, i sent a msg to you ,check your Inbox.
[QUOTE=Foreman371;2090000]From personal experience I have noticed that most working girls in Germany, Austria and Switzerland are Romanian, in some FKK clubs I estimate about 80%. Even in Barcelona and Greece, most eastern European girls come from Romania.
A question for FKK lovers, why is the overwhelming majority of girls Romanian? Don't get me wrong I have nothing against Romanians I'm just curious what is so special about Romania that makes so many of their women travel all over Europe to work, as opposed to girls from any other poor eastern European country like Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Moldova, Bosnia, Macedonia and so on? It is highly doubtful that Romanian women enjoy this kind of work so much more than women from other countries.[/QUOTE]Of the alternative countries you list, only Bulgaria is also a member of the EU. Bulgarians are the second biggest group in the clubs, because Bulgaria is smaller than Romania. These are by far the poorest EU countries.
[QUOTE=Foreman371;2090000]From personal experience I have noticed that most working girls in Germany, Austria and Switzerland are Romanian, in some FKK clubs I estimate about 80%. Even in Barcelona and Greece, most eastern European girls come from Romania.
A question for FKK lovers, why is the overwhelming majority of girls Romanian? Don't get me wrong I have nothing against Romanians I'm just curious what is so special about Romania that makes so many of their women travel all over Europe to work, as opposed to girls from any other poor eastern European country like Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Moldova, Bosnia, Macedonia and so on? It is highly doubtful that Romanian women enjoy this kind of work so much more than women from other countries.[/QUOTE]Simple: It is the poorest country in the EU (with the possible exception of Bulgaria, which is farther away). Bulgarian is a Slavic language, and the Slavic languages are rather similar, sometimes mutually understandable, so Bulgarians might be more inclined to work in Russia. (This last part is speculation.) Before Romania was in the EU, its role was played by Poland, but not to the same extent. The influence of the church is probably less than in Bulgaria and certainly less than in Poland, which might make prostitution somewhat more tempting.
[QUOTE=Foreman371;2090000]From personal experience I have noticed that most working girls in Germany, Austria and Switzerland are Romanian, in some FKK clubs I estimate about 80%. Even in Barcelona and Greece, most eastern European girls come from Romania.
A question for FKK lovers, why is the overwhelming majority of girls Romanian? [/QUOTE]Your estimate of 80% is quite low. The actual percentage is much higher. 80% may be reflective of polling / survey evidence that includes Romanians who claim to be from other countries. Once you speak some Romanian and watch which girls are talking Romanian with other girls, it becomes clear that almost all of the girls are Romanian. Yes, there are non-Romanians in the clubs, but very few.
95% Romanian would be a better estimate if based on their actual origin as opposed to claimed origins. I personally absolutely LOVE the Romanians, so I am happy that they are so many in Germany.
As to the why of it all, yes, this is a good question. Many speculate that Romania has a better recruiting / marketing / assistance network to help the young ladies navigate the complicate path to big Euros. Also, keep in mind that many of the girls find out about the job from their friends. So, if 95% of the girls in the clubs are Romanians, word of mouth "advertising" will continue to perpetuate the dominance of Romanians. I personally know a number of sisters who recruited their sisters into the biz.
Interestingly, the Romanian education system ensures that all young Romanian girls are informed about sex work at some point in high school. In an effort to combat the so-called "human trafikking" problem, the schools have educational seminars for the young girls to warn them about the dangers of the "lover boys" who may try to recruit them so as to be wary of them and not be tricked by them into the biz. So, all Romanian girls oddly learn of the big Euros to be made directly from their school. I sometimes wonder how effective these educational seminars are in dissuading the young girls from going into this business versus planting money-making ideas in their heads.
If someone could get around to recruiting / advertising in Greece, Bulgaria, Latvia, Estonia, etc, the rest of us would really appreciate it. K, thanks.
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However, to me Wellcum is not necessarily worth it because it is so isolated and the price point (85E entry and 70E half hour sessions) is significantly higher than at the German scene.[/QUOTE]One thing I noticed on my travels is that the Austrian FKKs situate themselves in out-of-the-way places as much as possible. Consequently they don't have many customers from local labouring immigrant populations: no, it's all Austrians and Italians and a few well-off tourists.
Wellcum is very isolated indeed but has a better atmosphere than most Austrian FKKs including Andiamo and GT Vienna.
Most of these girls claim their families don't know what they are doing and how they are making all that money. Which seems incredulous to me. By any measure, they seem to be making money significantly above the local standard of living; many of them are building houses, buying nice cars etc after a couple of years working in Germany, and their parents know what their skill sets and education levels were relative to how much they seem to be making now. Girls themselves say "yeah, I saw my cousin and asked her how she has this much money and she told me secretly. I wanted the same and that's how I came here". How is it possible that 20 year old cousin could figure out but not the parents, brothers, boyfriends and so on? Do jealous neighbors, relatives, others not gossip in a cruel and insulting way when they see a girl suddenly flaunt some newly acquired riches? Clearly, there seems to be a lot of turning a blind eye to what's going on, and "don't ask, don't tell, don't want to know" attitude in that region. I also wonder if the media writes about these things in Romania given how dominant are their numbers all over Europe, does media not highlight this phenomenon in that country?
Not that I am complaining.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2090406]Most of these girls claim their families don't know what they are doing and how they are making all that money. Which seems incredulous to me. By any measure, they seem to be making money significantly above the local standard of living; many of them are building houses, buying nice cars etc after a couple of years working in Germany, and their parents know what their skill sets and education levels were relative to how much they seem to be making now. Girls themselves say "yeah, I saw my cousin and asked her how she has this much money and she told me secretly. I wanted the same and that's how I came here". How is it possible that 20 year old cousin could figure out but not the parents, brothers, boyfriends and so on? Do jealous neighbors, relatives, others not gossip in a cruel and insulting way when they see a girl suddenly flaunt some newly acquired riches? Clearly, there seems to be a lot of turning a blind eye to what's going on, and "don't ask, don't tell, don't want to know" attitude in that region. I also wonder if the media writes about these things in Romania given how dominant are their numbers all over Europe, does media not highlight this phenomenon in that country?
Not that I am complaining.[/QUOTE]How much do these girls make in a year (after tax)?
I'm also curious about the business model of the FKKs- Do the girls pay a flat 65 euro entrance fee to get into the building, or do they have to pay extra whenever they take someone to a private room?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2090406]Most of these girls claim their families don't know what they are doing and how they are making all that money. Which seems incredulous to me. By any measure, they seem to be making money significantly above the local standard of living; many of them are building houses, buying nice cars etc after a couple of years working in Germany, and their parents know what their skill sets and education levels were relative to how much they seem to be making now. Girls themselves say "yeah, I saw my cousin and asked her how she has this much money and she told me secretly. I wanted the same and that's how I came here". How is it possible that 20 year old cousin could figure out but not the parents, brothers, boyfriends and so on? Do jealous neighbors, relatives, others not gossip in a cruel and insulting way when they see a girl suddenly flaunt some newly acquired riches? Clearly, there seems to be a lot of turning a blind eye to what's going on, and "don't ask, don't tell, don't want to know" attitude in that region. I also wonder if the media writes about these things in Romania given how dominant are their numbers all over Europe, does media not highlight this phenomenon in that country?
Not that I am complaining.[/QUOTE]Exactly, it shouldn't be hard to figure out, but as you said I also think there is a [i]huge[/i] double standard out there.
Mostly because of the left wing fake news media and all the feminist SJW's out there, we are constantly fed the politically correct narrative that everybody who is [U]not[/U] western European / North American is 'innocent and noble,' whereas white, heterosexual, Western males are the root of all evil, and are selfish, racists, colonialists, sexists, and obsessed with money.
So when people from the 2nd or 3rd world are caught lying (they are always 'noble and innocent' remember?), the story is again spun in a way to fit the extreme left Robin Hood narrative: 'they have to this in order to survive and pay the bills.'
So how do all the millions of [I]other[/I] people survive and pay the bills you might ask? I guess it's a very basic life (like millions of western Europeans and North Americans also life by the way), and its relatively simple; they live within their meagre means, they are not obsessed by money or designer handbags, they don't have 'boyfriends' who drive expensive German cars, and they don't pay cash for houses that the average person needs to work more than 20 years for.
Most of the friends, family and parents of these hookers all happily turn a blind eye (pretending to believe the bullshit story that their daughter pays for everything by "working as a waitress in Germany" or "has met a rich boyfriend") in order to ride the gravy train as long as possible. When the lie is exposed and the truth comes out, they shamelessly turn 180 degrees and blame 'western sexism and capitalism' or cry in front of a western TV crew about "hum@n traff!cking"or "f0rced pro$titution" in order to cover up their [U]own[/U] greed, hypocrisy and obsession with money.
I know one girl who takes her mother and grandmother on lavish holidays to Bali and Dubai, owns an apartment and is building a house in her native country and she explains her expensive lifestyle to her parents by pretending to live with a rich boyfriend in the UK who supposedly pays for those holidays and real estate. In reality there is no boyfriend, and she's just a prostitute in a German FKK club with the occasional escort job. Oddly enough this supposed boyfriend, despite all the money he makes, never visits her parents in her home country to say hello to the in-laws and never invites them over to the UK, yet he happily pays for holidays to faraway places like Asia and the Middle East. Holidays that he never joins, because he is "too busy" running his business.
And her parents don't become suspicious? And after all these 'happy together' years there are no pictures from him? And they've never spoken to this boyfriend on the phone? And they are supposedly together for years and yet she never introduced her boyfriend to her parents? 😂🙄 Come on, who the fuck is she kidding?!
Never forget: [B]prostitution is the oldest profession in the world,[/B] and most girls in this business are natural born, first class liars and manipulators. Whom did they learn this lying and manipulating from? Most probably their parents. 😉
[QUOTE=Pistons;2090141]A very large portion of the Romanians are also roma (gypsies) people, and not ethnic Romanian. I don't know the percentages as some try to hide it, but I would guess over 50% of the 'Romanians' are.[/QUOTE]Interesting, how does one tell the difference between gypsies and Romanians? Asking them would obviously be useless.