American Politics

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2793574]
Not that I really think Zuckerberg was too upset about any of it. He's a member of the tribe and on board with The Agenda; he's just trying to give himself and his failing website a big of credibility with the growing millions of people who are sick of the entire situation. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.[/QUOTE]Good point. I forgot about all the money he poured into the 2020 election and now he is trying to appear non-partisan. But I will ask you Chris, what would you have done if the FBI came up to you and said a story, forget about it being Hunter Biden, was disinformation, and you could go to jail if you published it. It is easy to say you would stand up to them, but the federal government, which has way too much power, can fuck you over in a million different ways.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2793592]Bullshit. The alphabet agencies knew perfectly well it was real. And yet they colluded with media and Big Tech to create the impression that it was not, in order to protect the woke globohomo Agenda candidate before an election[/QUOTE]Who gives a shit what a FBI lawyer thinks? We have the goods already. And not only that we have the FBI griping Twitter did not have more evidence of the so called Russian bots that were responsible for Trump winning in 2016.

So any alphabet agency in the federal government can just go to Twitter or Facebook and say "We believe this is disinformation" and censor a story. They do not have to be factually correct just believing is enough.

So PVM, let us get off your Democratic douche agenda and your whataboutism and go with absolutes. Give me one non-partisan story that has political impact that an alphabet agency could not censor today. Given your ridiculous standard of what qualifies as censorship. Watergate never would have happened, and Nixon would have finished out his term.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2793397]Wingers are the least informed dimwits on the planet. Yet well before the 2020 election every Winger had an idiotic notion in his or her otherwise empty skull that something evil about Joe Biden lurked somewhere inside his son's laptop next to the videos of his son smoking crack and getting a footjob from an Asian hooker.

And virtually everyone who was well-informed and therefore voted for Joe Biden knew all those Wingers were desperately grasping at straws with that BS in a vain attempt to salvage another losing election for their historic election-losing candidate whose only notable "win" was squeaking in on the pro Repub rigging built into the system back in 2016 despite losing the vote by millions.

Nobody needed Twitter to hear about that laptop idiocy. Twitter did not suppress or deny anyone anything regarding that crap re the election.

Hell, I almost never go on Twitter, knew that laptop bit was total crap and didn't even have the slightest interest in hearing about it.[/QUOTE]When you go into Bagdad Bob mode, Tooms, we know you have admitted defeat.

Laptop bit was total crap? LOL.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2793576]Hahaha! The Twitter FBI agent said Twitter and the FBI did nothing wrong! Well that's OK then!

The funny thing is these douchey dem doofus leftists are so brainwashed and lacking in critical thinking skills they actually believe the previous sentence. We cannot maintain a free first world society with such people. Better to separate, let them create their communist utopia and watch from a distance how it ends up for them.

P.S. If you want to know the reality about Twitter, Elon Musk the new owner said that having spent months looking under the hood, pretty much every "conspiracy theory" about it turned out to be true.[/QUOTE]So Matt Added Taibbi, didn't say this? "There's no evidence — that I've seen — of any government involvement in the laptop story. " [URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-files-matt-taibbi-bari-weiss-michael-shellenberger-elon-musk/[/URL].

Kinda blows your "all of the alphabet agencies lied" about the laptop thing, doesn't it?

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]After reading your gibberish, I got this impression, and I'll be polite:

You believe people shouldn't be allowed to file lawsuits because they feel that they have been harmed by discrimination. Plaintiffs don't pay lawyers or filing fees to go to court. And that it cost the business owner too much to defend their business practice. I believe that is a business decision.

You don't like gay people (men). Curious if you have the same animus toward gay women;.

You don't like jewish people;.

You don't like wall street, Big Tech, law enforcement, intelligent agencies, military industry complex.

You don't like "mainstream fake news media organizations". Who are the "real" news media organizations?

You believe there's a scandal of Lois Lerner [URL]https://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/IRS1023.pdf[/URL].

You like kidnapping plotters [URL]https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/final-defendant-michigan-governor-kidnapping-plot-sentenced-over-19-years-prison.[/URL].

You don't like Big Tech (shadow) banning people, but you like other companies to actually ban people.

You believe "heritage Americans" will be replaced. By who?

And, anal sex does not appeal to you.

Got it![/QUOTE]Your reply is spot on.

Gibberish is Chrissie's stock-in-trade. The more off-the-wall something is, the harder she pushes it.

Chrissie loves to use the term "heritage Americans" but forgets that she and every one of her ancestors are immigrants.

And actually, anal sex appeals to Chrissie very much. People who complain the loudest about something are usually the first ones to embrace it (in secret, of course).

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]
You believe people shouldn't be allowed to file lawsuits because they feel that they have been harmed by discrimination.[/QUOTE]I am opposed to compelled speech. When you try to force a baker to make a cake celebrating the "marriage" of two homosexuals, you are compelling him to make an expression with which he does not agree. That is tyranny. There are plenty of other bakers who would be happy to bake the cake, so the only reason for these cases is vindictive targeting of opponents by woke Globohomo.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]Plaintiffs don't pay lawyers or filing fees to go to court. And that it cost the business owner too much to defend their business practice. I believe that is a business decision.[/QUOTE]Most of these homosexual Agenda activists are funded by Big Fag via Soros or some other leftist Jew. So no, they don't pay out of their own pocket.

And it is not a "business decision" to be stuck in years of costly legal hell. These ridiculous and overtly political cases should be thrown out at the first hurdle. As indeed they are the other way round.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You don't like gay people (men). Curious if you have the same animus toward gay women[/QUOTE]I'm opposed to the homosexual Agenda, aka Big Fag, in particular its targeting of children. Pedophilia has always been rife among homosexual men, and this push to sexualize small children in elementary school, touch them at "drag queen story hour", and allow them to sterilize themselves and mutilate their genitals, is done with the aim of having sexual access to them.

If you can allow an elementary school age boy to say he's a faggot, or change his gender, then he is already sexualized. It's not a huge step to saying that he can consent to sex with adults. Woke globohomo media are even trying to use the term "MAP" (Minor-Attracted Person) instead of pedophile, to condition and normalize people toward their ultimate goal of fucking little boys.

As for lesbians, they hardly exist in reality. Women's sexuality has always been fluid and based around trends of the time. Centuries ago, if one tribe defeated another, they would kill all the men and the women would save themselves by fucking / marrying the winners. Nowadays, because Globohomo hollyweird and media has made lesbianism trendy (at least in the cringe circles that certain urban sluts exist) some of them are declaring themselves to be lesbian. It is just another female strategy to gain attention and advance themselves in society.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You don't like jewish people[/QUOTE]We need to have a conversation about why and how the majority of American media, finance and hollywood is owned and controlled by an ethno-religious group that constitutes only 2% of the population. That would be the case if it was any such group. We also need to discuss the effects of this on the majority of American people, and society as a whole.

The current situation, in which aforementioned media, finance and hollywood attempt to silence any discussion of the above facts, is not sustainable and indeed deeply repressive.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You don't like wall street, Big Tech, law enforcement, intelligent agencies, military industry complex.[/QUOTE]Local law enforcement, ie sheriffs directly elected by and beholden to the people they serve and protect, is great. Corrupt federal deep state alphabet agencies answerable to nobody except the Washington woke globohomo swamp are not.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You don't like "mainstream fake news media organizations". Who are the "real" news media organizations?[/QUOTE]There are some good journalists and news organizations out there. Glenn Greenwald for example (note that he is a homosexual but I don't have a problem with him because he doesn't push his identity, engage in public sodomy parades, or attempt to groom children for sex). Andy NGO has done some great reporting on the antifa / BLM riots (and been violently attacked by antifa, while federal law enforcement looked the other way because antifa supports The Agenda).

Tucker Carlson is excellent, and has earned his position as the most watched and trusted anchor in America. Some of the other people at Fox are good too, such as Brian Kilmeade. Newsmax and OAN have been decent from what I have seen of them. The Federalist is worth reading, and Breitbart still has its moments (though since Steve Bannon left it has become too hysterically Zionist). Andrew Anglin is one of the best living writers, hilarious and informative at a deep level. [URL]Vdare.com[/URL] (which is currently undergoing the aforementioned deep state attack, having been debanked and attacked by Jewish finance and fake news) is compelling. The Washington Examiner is OK. Many more.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You believe there's a scandal of Lois Lerner[/QUOTE]The IRS admitted illegally targeting right wing groups [URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/remember-the-irs-targeting-scandal-no-one-ever-got-punished-for-it[/URL].

But of course nobody was punished because the globohomo deep state swamp protects its own, just like Crooked Hillary Clinton wasn't punished for clearly breaking the law by using a private servers and deleting her emails while Secretary of State, and Sleepy Joe "10% for the Big Guy" Biden wasn't punished for openly boasting about threatening to withhold US govt loan while VP in order to force Ukraine to fire a prosecutor who was investigating his son's criminal activity in the country.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You like kidnapping plotters[/QUOTE]In the so-called Whitmer "kidnap" plot, which was in reality a political entrapment plot, it transpired that an actual majority of the so-called "plotters" were FBI agents or assets. [URL]https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/26/the-fbis-whitmer-kidnapping-case-looks-like-a-potemkin-terror-plot/[/URL].

"The FBI, through informants and undercover agents, hatched the kidnapping plot, served in the key leadership positions of the militia group, trained the militia members in military tactics, actively recruited participants, and funded much of the militia's activities. Then, when various members of the Watchman militia became uncomfortable with the kidnapping plot, with several quitting, the FBI's primary informant pushed the plot along, eventually becoming the militia group's leader. ".

January 6 was run along similar lines.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You don't like Big Tech (shadow) banning people, but you like other companies to actually ban people.[/QUOTE]As I said above, I am opposed to compelled speech. That does not apply to Big Tech specifically because of Section 230, which states that as sites like Twitter, Facebook and Google are merely platforms not publishers, they cannot be sued for anything that is written or said on them.

That was indeed the case until 2016. However, the election of Trump and the growing rejection of woke Globohomo lunacy meant that the woke deep state was forced to begin censoring its opposition because its fake news and twisted message was being so thoroughly debunked. This made the Big Tech platforms publishers, as they were deciding what was to be posted and publicised, rather than simply allowing the free competition of ideas (something that the left can never do because its ideas are so utterly full of shit and wacky).

Big Tech must go back to being free speech platforms, not publishers. If not, its Section 230 privileges must be removed.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2793647]You believe "heritage Americans" will be replaced. By who?[/QUOTE]By the tens of millions of immigrants let in since the fraudulently passed 1965 Immigration Bill, whose authors promised that it would not alter the demographic make up of America. This is of course accelerating now that the Biden regime has opened the southern border and is providing welfare gibsmedats to any unskilled 80 IQ loser who shows up.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2793659]Can I ask. What do you mean by heritage American? I never heard the expression before.

And what did gay folk do to you that got you so angry with them? I don't like classical music, but I don't feel the need to insult people that do like it at every opportunity.

I don't think you are necessarily old-fashioned, just missing out.[/QUOTE]Heritage Americans are Americans here before the 1965 Immigration Act was fraudulently passed.

The authors and backer of the Act, including Chappaquiddick Ted Kennedy and the Jewish congressman Emanuel Celler (it was named the Hart-Celler Act) falsely promised Americans that the demographic balance of the country would not be changed.

As for homosexuals, I am opposed to their public sodomy parades but most of all their targeting of children for grooming with the ultimate goal of legalizing pedophilia (see my previous post).

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2793660]Good point. I forgot about all the money he poured into the 2020 election and now he is trying to appear non-partisan. But I will ask you Chris, what would you have done if the FBI came up to you and said a story, forget about it being Hunter Biden, was disinformation, and you could go to jail if you published it. It is easy to say you would stand up to them, but the federal government, which has way too much power, can fuck you over in a million different ways.[/QUOTE]Zuckerberg is a multi-billionaire public figure with a huge media platform. There is no way whatsoever the FBI would have arrested him if he had allowed people to publicize the Biden laptop story on Facebook.

Elon Musk, a figure of similar stature to Zuckerberg, has stood up to the FBI and deep state by releasing the Twitter Files detailing FBI and other alphabet agency corruption and political interference in the election to support and protect the woke deep state globohomo candidate Biden. He is not languishing in prison.

Zuckerberg is just trying to pretend he is impartial, probably to save his failing platform which is dying. But the real scandal in all of this is the open bias and lies of the Washington deep state alphabet agencies who knew the laptop was real but pretended it was fake in order to interfere in the election. They are no longer fit for purpose and must be disbanded.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2793661]Who gives a shit what a FBI lawyer thinks? We have the goods already. And not only that we have the FBI griping Twitter did not have more evidence of the so called Russian bots that were responsible for Trump winning in 2016.

So any alphabet agency in the federal government can just go to Twitter or Facebook and say "We believe this is disinformation" and censor a story. They do not have to be factually correct just believing is enough.

So PVM, let us get off your Democratic douche agenda and your whataboutism and go with absolutes. Give me one non-partisan story that has political impact that an alphabet agency could not censor today. Given your ridiculous standard of what qualifies as censorship. Watergate never would have happened, and Nixon would have finished out his term.[/QUOTE]Yes, in fact they didn't even believe the laptop was "Russian disinformation". With all their considerable resources, they knew perfectly well that it was genuine and the information it contained detailing Biden family criminality was real, but they lied that it was not, in order to protect Biden before the election.

That is perhaps the most egregious political scandal in American history, and must result in nothing less than the disbandment of the organizations involved.

BTW regarding Nixon / Watergate, LBJ was known to have spied on Barry Goldwater in 1964 [URL]https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/the-fbi-spied-lbjs-campaign[/URL].

But because LBJ was in favor of the nascent Globohomo Agenda which had just begun (the Immigration Act to destroy the country demographically; the "Great Society" to normalize welfare gibsmedats and single motherhood; the start of affirmative action, etc) he was given a pass, as all leftists are.

Indeed, elements of the FBI actually spied for him, showing that the rot in that organization began a long time ago.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2793810]So Matt Added Taibbi, didn't say this? "There's no evidence that I've seen of any government involvement in the laptop story. " [URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-files-matt-taibbi-bari-weiss-michael-shellenberger-elon-musk/[/URL].

Kinda blows your "all of the alphabet agencies lied" about the laptop thing, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]Taibbi was not the one doing the Hunter Biden laptop story. Michael Schllenberger was, and I actually underestimated how bad it was.

[URL]https://public.substack.com/p/fbi-members-of-congress-respond-to[/URL]

Just like MSNBC should be known as spook network for all the former spies it has hired, Twitter and Facebook are loaded to the gills with presumably "former" FBI, NSA etc agents.

[URL]https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247[/URL]

After learning that Twitter employs at least 15 former FBI agents, I searched Facebook. What I found is alarming.

Facebook currently employs at least 115 people, in high-ranking positions, that formerly worked at FBI / CIA / NSA / DHS:

17 CIA.

37 FBI.

23 NSA.

38 DHS.

Google currently employs at least 165 people, in high-ranking positions, from the Intelligence Community.

Google's Trust & Safety team is managed by 3 ex-CIA agents, who control "misinfo & hate speech. ".

Here's the breakdown:

CIA-27.

FBI-52.

NSA-30.

DHS-50.

ODNI-6.

Oh right, these are "former" agents and a "private" company. Yeesh. I have learned that many of these "former" employees are still getting benefits from their "former" employers.

If this is not censorship, then nothing is. If you watch the 3 minute video at the above link and get the facts and tell me that the FBI did not censor the Hunter Biden story, then you are not an American who believes in the Constitution. At this point, it is unarguable that this is censorship.

But if you are a Democratic douche, this is a non-story because Biden won.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2793659]Can I ask. What do you mean by heritage American? I never heard the expression before.

And what did gay folk do to you that got you so angry with them? I don't like classical music, but I don't feel the need to insult people that do like it at every opportunity.

I don't think you are necessarily old-fashioned, just missing out.[/QUOTE]TK, he says globohomo. I am not speaking for Chris but I would imagine he agrees with this. There is this excellent and popular show called Breaking Point with Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti. She is a liberal, and he is conservative, and you would be amazed at how much they agree.

Bernie Sanders proposed making community college free. He was blown off as stupid and we were told we could not afford it when in fact it would cost $80 billion a year. We have already spent $100 billion on Ukraine for a war that we provoked with Russia. The globohomo agenda is funded by Wall Street and the military industrial complex to make certain money keeps coming to them by distracting from the real issues where Republicans and Democrats would agree. A bill that government pays for college will NEVER be voted on in my lifetime because Wall Street banks make too many $ off the loans, but a vote on military aid to Ukraine was a sure thing.

Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell have made disgusting amounts of money trading stocks on insider information. There will NEVER be a bill sent for a vote to ban Congressional insider trading in my lifetime, but you better believe they will pass some bill regarding hate speech.

With health care and the defense industry, you will NEVER see a bill sent for a vote on a public option of Medicare for all. I will also NEVER see an audit of the defense industry in my lifetime. However, you will see plenty of bills and laws aimed at limiting production of fossil fuels to "save the planet".

The Democratic douches here are like the cult members of true believers. Instead of empowering the people even with voting, they do not care about that. They only care if Democrats win. If the FBI rigs an election ot two, they are cool with that. As long as the Democratic douches subscribe to the globohomo agenda, issues like soaring education costs, Congressional insider trading, health care, and the out of control defense department will continue to be problems.

For all the shit said about Trump, he kept the peace. If he were re-elected, there would not have been a war in Ukraine. Instead of recognizing that, we see Democratic douches wearing their yellow and blue lapels and criticizing anyone who questions the end game in Ukraine or questions spending $100 billion earmarked for killing people as a Putin puppet.

Cheering on war and demonizing the man who would have prevented it is part of the globohomo agenda. As long as they can keep red and blue bickering, the money will keep rolling in.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2793858]
As for homosexuals, I am opposed to their public sodomy parades but most of all their targeting of children for grooming with the ultimate goal of legalizing pedophilia (see my previous post).[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply Chris.

Then to home in a little on your dislike -.
- you don't like public sodomy.
- you don't like child grooming.

But I fail to understand why you hold a prejudice against gay folks then. Bcos:
- many gay people do not commit public sodomy nor child grooming; whereas.
- many non-gay people do commit public sodomy and child grooming.

So you should direct your grievance against sodomizers and child groomers in general, not against gay folk.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2793925]

Cheering on war and demonizing the man who would have prevented it is part of the globohomo agenda.[/QUOTE]Then I misuderstand what globohomo means. I thought he was against the global gay rights movement.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2793862]Yes, in fact they didn't even believe the laptop was "Russian disinformation". With all their considerable resources, they knew perfectly well that it was genuine and the information it contained detailing Biden family criminality was real, but they lied that it was not, in order to protect Biden before the election.

That is perhaps the most egregious political scandal in American history, and must result in nothing less than the disbandment of the organizations involved.

BTW regarding Nixon / Watergate, LBJ was known to have spied on Barry Goldwater in 1964 [URL]https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/the-fbi-spied-lbjs-campaign[/URL].

But because LBJ was in favor of the nascent Globohomo Agenda which had just begun (the Immigration Act to destroy the country demographically; the "Great Society" to normalize welfare gibsmedats and single motherhood; the start of affirmative action, etc) he was given a pass, as all leftists are.

Indeed, elements of the FBI actually spied for him, showing that the rot in that organization began a long time ago.[/QUOTE]Your guy, Matt Taibbi, said the following: "There's no evidence — that I've seen — of any government involvement in the laptop story. " [URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter...ger-elon-musk/.[/URL] [B]Period[/B].

But you, on the other hand, continue to make BS statements like "With all their considerable resources, they knew perfectly well that it was genuine and the information it contained detailing Biden family criminality was real, but they lied that it was not, in order to protect Biden before the election. " All without proof, of course. But wingers don't need proof, do they? That's why it is so easy to be a winger. Everything is "fake news" that doesn't come from some unsubstantiated blog some where.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2793915]Taibbi was not the one doing the Hunter Biden laptop story. Michael Schllenberger was, and I actually underestimated how bad it was.

[URL]https://public.substack.com/p/fbi-members-of-congress-respond-to[/URL]

Just like MSNBC should be known as spook network for all the former spies it has hired, Twitter and Facebook are loaded to the gills with presumably "former" FBI, NSA etc agents.

[URL]https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247[/URL]

After learning that Twitter employs at least 15 former FBI agents, I searched Facebook. What I found is alarming.

Facebook currently employs at least 115 people, in high-ranking positions, that formerly worked at FBI / CIA / NSA / DHS:

17 CIA.

37 FBI.

23 NSA..[/QUOTE]Does your rant make Taibbi's statement untrue? Or is it untrue because it throws cold water on your bullshit. The fact that Taibbi said that there was no government involvement says that what you are saying is bullshit with a capital 'be'.

You are aghast that former employees of the CIA, FBI etc. Are still receiving benefits but you are unsurprisingly silent about Donnie the Dumbass offering PAC-or-somebody-else-paid-for legal assistance to folks who were about to testify to the Jan 6th committee.