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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2097177]the new German tax laws forcing girls to have an additional pimp (Angela Merkel) and will take a HUGE portion of a girl's earnings from Jan 1st 2018 onwards.[/QUOTE]What are the new tax laws?
How much will the girls have to pay from next year?
I felt Sharks lineup was the best I have seen in about a year.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2097177]To be honest, my FKK experiences in September and October have been very mediocre, and I can't remember things (not just in GT but even my all time favourite Sharks) to be so mediocre as far as line-up is concerned. I don't know what the reasons might be, but it seems that both line up and also attendance does not seem to have recovered much since the summer vacation.
My guesses; new German CBJ law, economic reasons (people have less money to spend, and-or are saving more), and last but not least, the new German tax laws forcing girls to have an additional pimp (Angela Merkel) and will take a HUGE portion of a girl's earnings from Jan 1st 2018 onwards.[/QUOTE]And don't forget the requirement to register from January 1st, 2018 on. Austria and Switzerland here me come! The tutes will be waiting for us with open arms (and legs)!
[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2097196]What are the new tax laws?
How much will the girls have to pay from next year?[/QUOTE]There are no new tax laws.
[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2097196]What are the new tax laws?
How much will the girls have to pay from next year?[/QUOTE]Girls will have to be registered with the German Finanzamt (tax office). Failure to do so (when for example being discovered by a police raid), will lead to serious fines and even prison terms for the girls. The Ponzi scheme of ever higher taxes has to continue of course, no matter what.
As for the height of German taxes, do a little bit of research.
Germany is just plusminus 10 years behind The Netherlands, where the socialists have seriously limited prostitution in cities Amsterdam and Utrecht by closing down designated areas (like in Utrecht), closing down 'massage' parlours, or by buy buying up Red Light houses (with tax money of course!) in Amsterdam. Compared to 20 years ago, the Amsterdam RLD is nowadays just a heavily regulated tourist attraction.
Ask yourself: why do you think places like GT or LR are so full of Dutch people? Why do the Dutch have to escape their 'liberal' leftwing country in order to go to a nice FKK club? Why aren't there (with the exception of YY) a multitude of nice and legal FKK clubs in The Netherlands? Surely there must be a market for a nice club near heavily populated areas like Amsterdam or Rotterdam?
Germany is slowly catching up because the socialists and 'Greens' (incl. Crypto-socialists like de CDU) have realised that they will always need more and more money to pay for all those social and economic engineering projects like 'refugees,' bank bailouts, Euro bailouts, funding the expansion of the European Union, building windmills, subsidising 'green' E-cars etcetera. Nearly all Germans with small businesses that I know are complaining about the tax office, of how much harder they suddenly are leaning on them for more money. In the small sleepy German city where I used to live, the city has bought 2 mobile speed cameras and have employed a small army of 'Ordnungsamt' nitwits handing out parking tickets. The city is racking in millions with speed cameras on a lonely deserted road in the middle of the night, all under the guise of "protecting the environment" and "road safety."
Prostitution is a multi-billion Euro industry and the German government desperately needs more money. They want a BIG piece of that action. As the saying goes: desperate times, desperate measures. So much for all this "Kostenneutrale bullshit" and of 'how Greek bailouts and rapefugees pay for themselves,' right? 🙄
[QUOTE=TheCane;2097223]And don't forget the requirement to register from January 1st, 2018 on. Austria and Switzerland here me come! The tutes will be waiting for us with open arms (and legs)![/QUOTE]That's what I meant with the new tax law: girls will have to register with the Finanzamt.
You're probably right about Switzerland and Austria, and I guess some of the successful (smart, good looking, good service) girls have figured this out also.
What if after the 2017 summer vacation, the smart girls have started to abandon the German ship and head for the exit doors before the real stampede starts? What if that new condom law which came into effect in July 2017 was the wake-up cal that they needed to realise that the good times were over and that they would have to get moving on?
By the time the remaining girls will have figured out how much of their hard earned money they will lose in taxes in order to finance Merkel's socialist 'wir-schaffen-das' Utopia, the girls who have left since the 2017 summer will have already established a nice little customer base in Austria, Switzerland or working for some escort agency from their home country which offers them a with a lot of 'flexibility' to escape taxes.
Will it be the early bird that catches the worm? Time will tel, but I'm guessing that a lot of of those successful girls are not stupid and that they can spot a pimp (Angela Merkel) and a declining market from miles away.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2097177]In GT:
At LR:
At Oase:
My own experience at Sharks about 2 weeks ago:
To be honest, my FKK experiences in September and October have been very mediocre, and I can't remember things (not just in GT but even my all time favourite Sharks) to be so mediocre as far as line-up is concerned. I don't know what the reasons might be, but it seems that both line up and also attendance does not seem to have recovered much since the summer vacation.
My guesses; new German CBJ law, economic reasons (people have less money to spend, and-or are saving more), and last but not least, the new German tax laws forcing girls to have an additional pimp (Angela Merkel) and will take a HUGE portion of a girl's earnings from Jan 1st 2018 onwards.
Long live socialism and the EUSSR! Viva la revolution![/QUOTE]Don't panic.
At LR, it was my decision and my fault, not to go with my regular when she came to kiss me as always, and I refused. If only I was able to be blind and just fuck her like a prostitute, then I would have had her without problem, like before. And she is my best of all my girls all over FKK land, but I need a good image to desire.
At GT, police control on Friday afternoon, so Saturday was not the best day to visit. No Kate, no Klara, no Vanessa, no Madeleine, just a bad day.
Not on this week end when I really managed very badly, but I still find good girls in Germany, without problems about new law. Also Wellcum for Summer sports and Switzerland when ski time.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2097177]
My guesses; new German CBJ law, economic reasons (people have less money to spend, and-or are saving more), and last but not least, the new German tax laws forcing girls to have an additional pimp (Angela Merkel) and will take a HUGE portion of a girl's earnings from Jan 1st 2018 onwards.
[/QUOTE]- new German CBJ law: job is 'easier' for girls.
- economic reasons: it was overcrowded yesterday at LR. I am always surprised to see dudes coming at 11 pm. Plus Germany has a strong economy with one of the lowest unemployment rate.
- tax + registration: yes, that might be the reason. Some girls won't come back.
But, we're in October, shouldn't girls profit of the last months without tax and registration obligation? And make plenty of money before Christmas and new year?
There is clearly a loss of customers since the 1st of July. Maybe the club was overcrowded yesterday but one month ago it was not the case.
What I notice was the Sept was slow in clubs around the NRW. Aca seems to have dipped as of late, but not sure how it gets on weekend nights though. This is probably due to less money after vacations(for clubs that locals are the main attenders), and also clubs not as much Ro presence during those times (at least early Sept), unless there is a Messe going on. Before the winter holidays, the Ro presence should keep increasing I think.
IMO, there's too many club options, and countries that girls can work as well.
GT and LR attracts a lot of customers on weekends, and that has been the case. Weekend night should be the nights guys walk in at 11pm at night.
[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2097287]- new German CBJ law: job is 'easier' for girls.
[/QUOTE]It takes 2 to tango. Without a customer, the working girls won't have to give any CBJ's at all. She'll be sitting on a pile of unused condoms.
[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2097287]But, we're in October, shouldn't girls profit of the last months without tax and registration obligation? And make plenty of money before Christmas and new year?[/QUOTE]Maybe, but maybe it's better for girls to bite the bullet and set up shop elsewhere as I suggested? Why wait until the last moment and quit on the 1st of January? To do [I]you[/I] a favour? That's just naive and wishful thinking dude. 😂
When girls start to realise that getting registered at the tax office means 'sharing' 20-40% (it's not just income tax but also paying high social premiums) of their income with Puff Mutti Merkel, many girls will either want to leave or go underground. The smart ones are the ones that realise that now, and want to leave early in order to beat the crowd rushing for the exit.
Suppose that by July 2018 things turn out to be [u]not[/u] as bad as expected with the taxes, then a successful girl can (if she wishes) always easily come back since she had a regular client base and word will quickly spread (through ISG and other forums) that she has returned to Germany. On the other hand, if things turn out to be disastrous for the remaining girls, then the girls who have left got themselves a 6-12 month head start before the competition finally wakes up and also wants to leave Germany and move to Austria, Switzerland or god knows where. The 'early adopters' will have established a new customer base and the 'not-so-smart' girls who stayed behind in Germany will have to fight an uphill battle to get some of that market share in Austria or Switzerland.
For successful and good-looking girls it makes a lot of business sense to try something new before the 1st of January 2018. They are smart and realistic, as the new requirement to get registered at the tax office (and thus pay German taxes + social premiums) will not magically disappear. The socialist Utopia will always need more and more and more money, that's a fact.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2097310]GT and LR attracts a lot of customers on weekends, and that has been the case. Weekend night should be the nights guys walk in at 11pm at night.[/QUOTE]Yes, but IMHO the line-up, especially compared to 1-2 years ago, is pretty crap at GT during the weekends. Most of the good-looking girls are taken and-or reserved via WhatsApp, Instagram or Facebook and spend hours in the rooms, the only time you see some of them is when they go (wearing the customer's flip-flops and a towel wrapped around their body) to get new drinks and some food. What remains of the line-up is mediocre at best, with a few exceptions who immediately get swarmed by guys as soon as they set foot in the main lounge.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2097310]What I notice was the Sept was slow in clubs around the NRW. Aca seems to have dipped as of late, [/QUOTE]Aca was fine again in October. Many girls just took vacation in Sept.
Harry, the decline in club LUs has been going on for awhile before the new law, so I think you are just looking for reasons for whatever few posts you are reading on here (you should really base your opinions based on first hand experiences). When I compare what I see in clubs before the new law and after, there's not much of a difference, but if I compared to further back, yes.
Some of the clubs in the NRW has management changed like PHG and VV, and has not ever recovered. I wouldn't say Aca is the same as 2-3 years go either.
Just overall the scene is not the same as years ago. There were several clubs that if I compared to my visit to Austria years ago, I would have preferred De, but the times have changed.
Based on my experiences outside De when weighing things, I still do prefer De due to the economy of the sessions compared to other countries.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2097260]Girls will have to be registered with the German Finanzamt (tax office). Failure to do so (when for example being discovered by a police raid), will lead to serious fines and even prison terms for the girls. The Ponzi scheme of ever higher taxes has to continue of course, no matter what.
As for the height of German taxes, do a little bit of research.
Germany is just plusminus 10 years behind The Netherlands, where the socialists have seriously limited prostitution [/QUOTE]Hard to write more wrong things in one post than in this example. First, the political positions of the German and Dutch governments in recent years is comparable; if anything, the Netherlands are farther to the right than Germany, not to the left, and the Green Party has never played as strong a role there as in Germany. Second, the fact is that most earnings from prostitution were not taxed at all; being mainly a cash business, it is easier to avoid paying taxes. This has to do with fairness, not increasing revenue. Third, even if it results in more taxes, this is not the primary reason. ((First, it is not a multi-billion dollar industry; it's not that big. Second, the people pushing for more registration etc would be happy to shut it down completely if they could (which would mean no tax revenue at all from it), so this is certainly not their motivation.) Fourth, it was the Greens who made prostitution more legal back in the day, and a non-Green government is responsible for the new law. Dude, you have some serious problems interpreting reality. You seem to think that left-wing parties are evil by definition, and blame everything on them. In fact, of course, most opposition to prostitution comes from the religious right.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2097330]Harry, the decline in club LUs has been going on for awhile before the new law, so I think you are just looking for reasons for whatever few posts you are reading on here (you should really base your opinions based on first hand experiences). When I compare what I see in clubs before the new law and after, there's not much of a difference, but if I compared to further back, yes.
Some of the clubs in the NRW has management changed like PHG and VV, and has not ever recovered. I wouldn't say Aca is the same as 2-3 years go either.
Just overall the scene is not the same as years ago. There were several clubs that if I compared to my visit to Austria years ago, I would have preferred De, but the times have changed.
Based on my experiences outside De when weighing things, I still do prefer De due to the economy of the sessions compared to other countries.[/QUOTE]Agree with this. There have been a decline in the overall lineups at almost every club and it has been going on for a while before 1st of July, That is why I actually hope that some clubs will go bust so that the surviving clubs then will have better overall lineups and more people. My last visit was in Frankfurt and Mainhattan and it wasn't much of a party even tough it was a Friday night.
[QUOTE=SvenFKK;2097339]Second, the fact is that most earnings from prostitution were not taxed at all; being mainly a cash business, it is easier to avoid paying taxes. [/QUOTE]And that doesn't change even if the girls have to register.