German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Optimist;2239975]I understand your point. It is hard to continue to ignore a poster who has some kind of vendetta against one (I am assuming the poster is continually denigrating you or your posts). I would suggest that you are right not to reply. Other ISG members will hopefully see the person's posts and draw their own conclusions. Getting sucked into the discussion will just tar you with the same brush.

As Mr Ho. Says, leave the poster's negative energy for him to deal with.[/QUOTE]Thanks Optimist and Chongmal. Sorry, didn't mean to air my dirty laundry. I was just trying to get clarification on how the ignore list works. The moderator has been helpful in a PM and cleared up. It's all good now.

Many mongers including myself complain or have hard feeling about upselling in FKK.

However, we often forget that FKK system allow us to pay girls after the service for good reason, which is if you did not like the service or feel ripped off we can refuse to pay such upselling amount.

Of course girl will complain then and not us LOL.

One maybe say the management, but as long as we monger are willing to pay standard rate for time we went into room, the management will be fair and won't tell you to pay upselling amount.

Sometimes, some feel oblige to pay agreed amount at locker even service is not delivered as promised, but we really do not need to pay upselling amount, but just pay standard amount based on time you went in the room.

So paying system of FKK actually allow monger to decide how much you want to pay after the session.

In many country you pay before the session, so FKK paying after system gives monger more power.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2240222]Many mongers including myself complain or have hard feeling about upselling in FKK.

However, we often forget that FKK system allow us to pay girls after the service for good reason, which is if you did not like the service or feel ripped off we can refuse to pay such upselling amount.

Of course girl will complain then and not us LOL.

One maybe say the management, but as long as we monger are willing to pay standard rate for time we went into room, the management will be fair and won't tell you to pay upselling amount.

Sometimes, some feel oblige to pay agreed amount at locker even service is not delivered as promised, but we really do not need to pay upselling amount, but just pay standard amount based on time you went in the room.

So paying system of FKK actually allow monger to decide how much you want to pay after the session.

In many country you pay before the session, so FKK paying after system gives monger more power.[/QUOTE]Interesting, I heard this story from the other perspective just this week. A WG explained that the customer refused to pay after a one hour session. At reception, the choice was given, back away or tell us and we call the police on him. In this case, the WG backed away to maintain peace because reception promised to make it right for her. All said, for this man it worked out but I know other WGs I'm sure would have pushed to call the police. I can't imagine how the conversation with the police would go, but I personally wouldn't want to be in that situation.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2240222]Many mongers including myself complain or have hard feeling about upselling in FKK.

However, we often forget that FKK system allow us to pay girls after the service for good reason, which is if you did not like the service or feel ripped off we can refuse to pay such upselling amount.

Of course girl will complain then and not us LOL.

One maybe say the management, but as long as we monger are willing to pay standard rate for time we went into room, the management will be fair and won't tell you to pay upselling amount.

Sometimes, some feel oblige to pay agreed amount at locker even service is not delivered as promised, but we really do not need to pay upselling amount, but just pay standard amount based on time you went in the room.

So paying system of FKK actually allow monger to decide how much you want to pay after the session.

In many country you pay before the session, so FKK paying after system gives monger more power.[/QUOTE]This FKK paying system you are referring is not something official so we cannot tell the girl. There are many bitches out there especially in Artemis that when you don't give them the money you agreed before and although the service was bad they threaten you that they will tell the management that you did BBBJ so you pay the fine. Which can be true but also can be fake (the BBBJ).

[QUOTE=MrHo;2240222]
In many country you pay before the session, so FKK paying after system gives monger more power.[/QUOTE]Hamdulillah Ho-san. Even with escorts in Europe, I notice that if a girl asks you to pay in advance that generally means she expects the session will be bad and she's afraid you won't pay at all. So the sensible thing is for a guy to always refuse to pay in advance. In fact, the smartest thing is to cancel right away as clearly the girl does not intend to give you good treatment.

I recently had a weird experience in an out-of-the-way FKK, where a girl asked me to pay in advance. Of course I said no, but I went ahead with the session. I realize this was a mistake: the girl provided a truly awful session. She was a shark. I made a partial payment but the session was worth less than zero.

Lesson learnt. If a girl asks for advance payment: cancel!

By the way, in a Mad-Max FKK like Artemis or Oase, if you have a bad session with a Romanian girl, and the girl at the counter is also Romanian (and a former WG) then obviously she is just going to side with the girl no matter what happens. There is no real oversight in these places, that is why they are Mad-Max FKKs. The solution is damn simple: just don't go to MMFKKs. Go to places with real management.

GT: 8-12 on Friday 7 pm.

Sharks: 5-7 on Sunday 5 pm.

Magnum: 3 on Friday (few weeks ago) 10 pm.

Oase: 1 on Wednesday 9 pm. But this lady was not good (see my report on Oase from Oct 25th).

Please others fill in for the other clubs.

Sharks: 4-5.

GT: 1-2.

Oase: 2-3.

Magnum: 1.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2241275]GT: 8-12 on Friday 7 pm.

Sharks: 5-7 on Sunday 5 pm.

Magnum: 3 on Friday (few weeks ago) 10 pm.

Oase: 1 on Wednesday 9 pm. But this lady was not good (see my report on Oase from Oct 25th).

Please others fill in for the other clubs.[/QUOTE]German team at Globe with superstar Joana and pretty Skylar.

Pretty Finnja at GT.

Usually Germans at Atmos and sometimes at Harmony south Hamburg.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2241246]Hamdulillah Ho-san. Even with escorts in Europe, I notice that if a girl asks you to pay in advance that generally means she expects the session will be bad and she's afraid you won't pay at all. So the sensible thing is for a guy to always refuse to pay in advance. In fact, the smartest thing is to cancel right away as clearly the girl does not intend to give you good treatment.

I recently had a weird experience in an out-of-the-way FKK, where a girl asked me to pay in advance. Of course I said no, but I went ahead with the session. I realize this was a mistake: the girl provided a truly awful session. She was a shark. I made a partial payment but the session was worth less than zero.

Lesson learnt. If a girl asks for advance payment: cancel!

By the way, in a Mad-Max FKK like Artemis or Oase, if you have a bad session with a Romanian girl, and the girl at the counter is also Romanian (and a former WG) then obviously she is just going to side with the girl no matter what happens. There is no real oversight in these places, that is why they are Mad-Max FKKs. The solution is damn simple: just don't go to MMFKKs. Go to places with real management.[/QUOTE]I never went as far as going to reception yet, but I had my experiences of bad service in room. Fortunately bad experiences are level of I can count and not so much, but enough LOL.

To balance out, I had real good session for 60 euro in Artemis too, so I guess in life things to balance out LOL.

The thing is reception can side with girls, but as long as you are willing to pay standard house price times time you spent in room, it is fine, when one under pay house price, that is where things get funny.

I did see in few occasion where girl and client was surrounded by security of Artemis, you know body builder older guy with glasses and doing payment negotiation.

Either way, it is good that FKK allow us to pay after the session not before, back home where I am at any sexual establishment, you pay before session.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2241051]Interesting, I heard this story from the other perspective just this week. A WG explained that the customer refused to pay after a one hour session. At reception, the choice was given, back away or tell us and we call the police on him. In this case, the WG backed away to maintain peace because reception promised to make it right for her. All said, for this man it worked out but I know other WGs I'm sure would have pushed to call the police. I can't imagine how the conversation with the police would go, but I personally wouldn't want to be in that situation.[/QUOTE]In which club is that? Well if one refuse to pay yes, but as long as you pay house price times time you spent in room it is all fine.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2241073]This FKK paying system you are referring is not something official so we cannot tell the girl. There are many bitches out there especially in Artemis that when you don't give them the money you agreed before and although the service was bad they threaten you that they will tell the management that you did BBBJ so you pay the fine. Which can be true but also can be fake (the BBBJ).[/QUOTE]Well they can call police, but how are they going to prove BBBJ? I mean in any law, proof is must, so it will be hard to get you based on what prostitute said LOL.

I can see this happening though because some FKK girls are so young and stupid in head even though they are like mid or late 20's LOL.

Why are women so childish and not rational? LOL.

For those of us who have to fly in from other continents to enjoy the FKK pleasure, the Law of Diminishing Returns applies to our FKK mongering as well.

For me, I usually take 8-day trips, arriving on Saturday morning and departing on the following Sunday morning. From time to time, I have extended my trips to about 10 days.

After about 10 days, the Law of Diminishing Returns starts to turn negative on me. The input of my two most valuable resources, namely time and money, would remain constant but my level of enjoyment and excitement would diminish. I would become over-satiated with too much of a good thing.

I would return a month or so later and reap the maximum output of enjoyment / excitement for the input of my time and money.

I have heard of mongers who take FKK tours lasting more than two weeks, but I am not sure whether they would still enjoy the same level of excitement past the first week.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2241073]This FKK paying system you are referring is not something official so we cannot tell the girl. There are many bitches out there especially in Artemis that when you don't give them the money you agreed before and although the service was bad they threaten you that they will tell the management that you did BBBJ so you pay the fine. Which can be true but also can be fake (the BBBJ).[/QUOTE]Well that seems to be an empty threat as 1) the girl can not prove it and 2) while it is not illegal for the girls to give it, the club itself is not going to the authorities as they would have to admit that a girl in their own club willingly let it happen. Unless you're going to also accuse the guy for forcing his bare cock in her unwilling mouth.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2241411]I have heard of mongers who take FKK tours lasting more than two weeks, but I am not sure whether they would still enjoy the same level of excitement past the first week.[/QUOTE]You may be assured that I do.