Saint Petersburg

[QUOTE=Explorer69]Are there many working girls in Marstall these days? Quality?

Is Rossi's a place with working girls? Since I am busy with work when I am in SPB, and are only for a couple of days I cannot go for freebies. Address of Rossi's?

In Playgirls I had to pay 6000 roubles to the club. Whatever is in addition to leaving the club is the up to you and the girl, and I guess they will ask different prices and it may dependent on you? This girl agreed on 8000 for her for all night and it was great: like a wild girlfriend. However, this was winter 2008 and prices increase in SPB. However, even if such sex is expensive you can have a VERY good time because these girls only go with you if they like you. And then the sex also is better. Strippers in these clubs make good money, so usually they are not in desperate need.

Golden Dolls are more expensive. Last time I heard. I was not there. That entrance is now 1000 roubles. There are many girls and some will go with you, some will not. I have never taken a girl from there, it is expensive. I asked last winter and it was then USD 1000 total (club + girl) for all night.

Agree, Tribunal is now terrible, a total waste![/QUOTE]So you paid 8000 rubles to the girl and 6000 to the club, 14000 rubles = $560?

Not an accusation, just a question for reference...

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]So you paid 8000 rubles to the girl and 6000 to the club, 14000 rubles = $560?

Not an accusation, just a question for reference...[/QUOTE]Unfortunately you are right! It is above what I usually do, but if you spend some time in a strip club, get a few drinks, you end up sitting with this sexy hottie and you feel that communication is great, what to do? And I was right, it ended up in one of the best nights! But one also can have the same for free in other situations, but this particular night for 14000 roubles made me very happy. And I was never going for the cheapest as a goal per se, I rather prefer to go the way my dick pointed! And I don't spend a very long time in FSU cities, always just a few days when I am there, then I more easily can afford some higher prices.

By paying this in a strip club. Actually I think this is rather inexpensive for being in a strip club. One doesn't "destroy" the general market. The girls in SPB strip clubs make several thousand dollars a month and they don't need to fuck. Therefore rather few do and then my feeling is it is only if there "develops some relationship" that evening with a particular guy? But one girl in the shit club Gothica offered to fuck me for the night for 600 euros 2 years ago, I didn't accept. And in Golden Dolls it is 1000. But if you take out it is usually for the whole night. And some of these girls are very hot. You don't take a 6-7 out of a strip club!

[QUOTE=Explorer69]By paying this in a strip club. Actually I think this is rather inexpensive for being in a strip club. One doesn't "destroy" the general market. And some of these girls are very hot. You don't take a 6-7 out of a strip club![/QUOTE]Like I said, it wasn't an accusation. I was just curious.

Seems pretty average strip club price, Moscow essentially the same... between $500-1000 all in.

It doesn't affect market prices at salons or elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Like I said, it wasn't an accusation. I was just curious.

Seems pretty average strip club price, Moscow essentially the same... between $500-1000 all in.

It doesn't affect market prices at salons or elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Strip club pussy is about the most expensive out there, whether you do it in the backroom or take out. The key advantage is that you get to partially sample the goods in advance (as opposed to a salon, HD/NF or tochka). Personally, if I'm into the girl, I'm affectionate, but not grabby... buy her a drink and see if she can hold a conversation (though not necessarily in that order)... then ask if she wants to meet "outside the club" sometime like a normal couple would for dinner, drinks and/or dancing. On more than one occasion, the girl suggested it herself. "Um, so do you like sushi? Because I do..." is a common line. Or she'll try to get you to take her to one of the most exclusive clubs in town - where she probably wouldn't have much chance if flying solo or with her girlfriends (bear in mind she might dump you once in the door - hasn't happened to me, but has to friends). In my experience, this pseudo-courtship can reduce the price of the act itself significantly, but you'll blow most of that savings in drinks, etc...

If you don't want to bother with that bullshit, you can usually avoid paying the house if you're willing to wait until she gets off shift (around 5am or 6am) and meet her at a predetermined place, like a 24 hr cafe, metro stop, etc.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]...
If you don't want to bother with that bullshit, you can usually avoid paying the house if you're willing to wait until she gets off shift (around 5am or 6am) and meet her at a predetermined place, like a 24 hr cafe, metro stop, etc.[/QUOTE]

Very good idea.....thanks !

P.S. btw in the menu of PG there is written one hour girl out of klub 5.000rub....this evening to take a look to the blonde of 2 evenings ago, but I am afraid that an all night costs much more than 14.000rubles, specially considering that just far 200 metrs in golden dolls costs twice, 1.000$, and not sure if for all night or just till when you cum...

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Very good idea.....thanks !

P.S. btw in the menu of PG there is written one hour girl out of klub 5.000rub....this evening to take a look to the blonde of 2 evenings ago, but I am afraid that an all night costs much more than 14.000rubles, specially considering that just far 200 metrs in golden dolls costs twice, 1.000$, and not sure if for all night or just till when you cum...[/QUOTE]Well, prices increase, maybe because of the crisis:)! As I said, my experience was from last winter.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Very good idea.....thanks !

P.S. btw in the menu of PG there is written one hour girl out of klub 5.000rub....this evening to take a look to the blonde of 2 evenings ago, but I am afraid that an all night costs much more than 14.000rubles, specially considering that just far 200 metrs in golden dolls costs twice, 1.000$, and not sure if for all night or just till when you cum...[/QUOTE]

I've only paid the house a couple times to pull a girl out, but have negotiated with strippers countless times. My feeling is that the girl actually gets a cut of the "house money", and as such is "incentivized" to play by the rules. But as you know by now, Luka... everything in Russia is negotiable!

[QUOTE=Pizdyets].... But as you know by now, Luka... everything in Russia is negotiable![/QUOTE]

I totally agree drug, I am now mainly thinking when the taxi driver told me 2500rubles taking me to salon and once there the woman said tri tisice....I said, he told 2500, spasibo i udachu....she wait a while, just to check if i really decided to go and when I was opening the door already thinking to next place to visit, she said ok for 2500....the same with taxi drivers.....

Right yesterday I read in argentina forum some good reasons why to vsegda negotiate and how to do it.... very helpful....let's see this evening what I will be able to do it with the hot blonde....one thing is sure.... I will not go back to my bedroom alone ;)

DoctorSkank, Exploere69 and Stranvinsky.

I wanted to say thank you guys for your help. Being here in Japan and trying to coordinate my Visa to Russia was a pain but I finally have it on my possession! March here I come! 1st making a visit to Kiev : ) and than going to Russia.

Jose,

пожалуйста! (you're welcome)

We're looking forward to reading about your trip.

Here we are to write the report of the last of 5 cities I visited.

It was the second time in Piter, the first was on september 04 and besides that the prices went up, I found the city more or less the same. But considering I was in 3 cities-provincies to be back to Piter gave me the feeling to be back in my home town cause everything was for me very easy.

For example you almost neither need to speak russian in Piter, if you take accomodation close to Nevsky you have everything so close, big choose of restaurants, bars and place where to go, very friendly city for a newbie.

To make long shor:

Magrib:
The main place where to go, the most known even if, it was better in 2004, now girls are still pretty, but I almost went there for the restaurant, than for the disco, never took home a girl from there but a guy I met did and for 150 euro, he said not bad girl.


Marstall:
I went there cause I do not know why...I never paid entrance, I think cause they know a foreigner will take girl home and they take money from every girl who works there. (one told me that they pay the boss there on monday, so it can be a good idea to there in this day to get better price...).
I took home only one girl for 5.000 rubles-150 euro, the bad thing she wanted to stop at supermarket to buy food and vodka...almost 1500 rubles of food that however she left to my home.With her the first time was pretty cold sex,but I knew about it, but I wanted her cause she was really nice, everything covered however.

The second time I took her, I just said I am here looking for girlfriend, I very seldom pay to get sex LOL, I like you but with you I had the feeling to have sex and or I make love with a girl or I prefer my hand-0 euro....about one hour of bullshit like this and I got the second time I took her a very good session, not only cause I told her I had only 100 euro for all night, but also cause after a covered sex I got a wonderful bbbj with cim and swallow ( she did all alone, from took out condom till the end...neither need to ask...very nice) and before it daty and passionate dfk, so I am sure, with a little of work, you can have a lot paying not so much and even if the level of girl is not high,but there are many 7'.


Rossi's:
I wen there every night, besides the weekend when it get too much crowded, during the other days you find always some girls. Good when I took home that later told me she worked in Magrib, 100 euro, not bad, but nothing wonderful too.


XXX:
The problem here that af the beginning they did not want to make me and 2 guys I met inside, after I chatted a little in russia, man door said ok, but with a fee of 1.000 rubles. I wanted to get into ( after all the money I spent one thousand ruble was not making me poorer or richer...), but they did not agree. It was a pity cause many nice normal girls, eye touch and no one foreigners.

Red club:
It is a disco, after waited about half hour outside, they did not allow to get into,neither with tip. a pity too, as at XXX nice girls.


I went too to the total rip off that is the strip club Golden Dolls, I knew in advance what it was, but I was very curious to be in a place full of 9' and 10' and indeed it is ! I was good that I stayed there only about half hour and total damage with entrance of about 40 euro...but really full of nice girls that you can take home for 1.000usd, but not every girl. For example the one I spoke too, tried to make me choose privat dance, privat shower and when ( just to test her...), I said, money is not a problem but I like sex and not to see somebody dance close to me, she said I never have sex with customer. I asked why ? She said, no need to have sex here to earn a lot of money, so why I have to do it ? Who is gonna to pay to have private dance ? Me suuurely not !


Salons:
Here we have the only thing that real worth it in Piter and I will write about salons next time.... LOL ! ;)
The first suggest as many already wrote is to buy a sim card...you will use it many times...
Second as beginning to find a "good" taxi and with good I mean one that is not gonna to rip you too much and that he will have more than one phone numbers of salons.
However I was in many salons with price of 2500 rubles 1 hour, so I am pretty sure, taxi driver charges usually 500 rubles, maybe sometime 1000, but considering how it is sometime even for taxi driver to find the flat, it really worth it, cause with taxi you need less than one hour to check 4-5 salons (there are many not far from Nevski...), but alone it will take you many hours.
So how to find them, for me taxi worth it.

The other problem is that most of time they want you will have sex in their flat...and I never did once !
Why ?
I am not gonna to have sex on the bed where already had tons of time and they hardly agree to take her to your place and when they do, the driver always come to check your flat.
Also happens to me that once she went to my place and said...you live at ground floor, I am afraid...so we had with the driver to go back to salon, when another couple of times the woman-boss tried to convince me to have sex there before to finally give me back my money....

So it is really no easy, it seems to me surely less easier than in 2004 and every time I thought as it get so easy with tochka in Moscow where you take her and nobody cares or ask where you live, if you live alone and so on.

However as you see in the following 3 photos, the quality is surely not bad and also the prices are more or less the same as in provincies.

Luka,

Thanks for all of your reports. From what you say, I have the idea that prices and quality in the provinces are really not much better than what you will find in Moscow or Piter. It seems Piter may be a little less than Moscow.

Do you remember the location of Rossi and XXX? Where are they?

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Luka,

Thanks for all of your reports. From what you say, I have the idea that prices and quality in the provinces are really not much better than what you will find in Moscow or Piter. It seems Piter may be a little less than Moscow.

Do you remember the location of Rossi and XXX? Where are they?[/QUOTE]

Privetik Stravvie ;)

Rossi's is just 10 minutes walking from Magrib and 1 minute by taxi, 150 rubles as max price to get there. I love to walk and always I went from Magrib to Marstall and then to Rossi walking, specially in early november when there was not so much cold and Nevski still full of girls...

Rossi:so you leave Magrib and you go to right toward Marstall, after about 300-400 metres, after fontanka bridge but before Gostiny Dvor, you acroos the street, there is a park there, close there is Yakitoria sushi restaurant and a 200 metres more forward Rossi. Everybody knows it and more hard to explain than to find it.

XXX:I went there with taxi and during the travel I talked with other two guys, so I do not remember exactly, but it is very close to Magrib too, in the stary Nevski, about 200 rubles from Magrib. And close to XXX is red club too. Actually it should be also a XX and XXXX, if the girl who told me this, did not lie me :).

Soon I will post the last part, my imho impressions about provincies and the two main cities, but yes, you are right...

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Privetik Stravvie ;)

Rossi's is just 10 minutes walking from Magrib and 1 minute by taxi, 150 rubles as max price to get there. I love to walk and always I went from Magrib to Marstall and then to Rossi walking, specially in early november when there was not so much cold and Nevski still full of girls...

Rossi:so you leave Magrib and you go to right toward Marstall, after about 300-400 metres, after fontanka bridge but before Gostiny Dvor, you acroos the street, there is a park there, close there is Yakitoria sushi restaurant and a 200 metres more forward Rossi. Everybody knows it and more hard to explain than to find it.

XXX:I went there with taxi and during the travel I talked with other two guys, so I do not remember exactly, but it is very close to Magrib too, in the stary Nevski, about 200 rubles from Magrib. And close to XXX is red club too. Actually it should be also a XX and XXXX, if the girl who told me this, did not lie me :).

Soon I will post the last part, my imho impressions about provincies and the two main cities, but yes, you are right...[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.rossis.ru/[/url]

At the airport now headed to Moscow........ (with visions of Devushki dancing in my head)

Great report Lukasek! Too bad we missed each other!
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Magrib:
The main place where to go, the most known even if, it was better in 2004, now girls are still pretty, but I almost went there for the restaurant, than for the disco, never took home a girl from there but a guy I met did and for 150 euro, he said not bad girl.
[/QUOTE]Haven't been there in a while... didn't somebody write that it was being remonted?[QUOTE=Lukasek]Marstall:
I went there cause I do not know why...I never paid entrance, I think cause they know a foreigner will take girl home and they take money from every girl who works there. (one told me that they pay the boss there on monday, so it can be a good idea to there in this day to get better price...).
I took home only one girl for 5.000 rubles-150 euro, the bad thing she wanted to stop at supermarket to buy food and vodka...almost 1500 rubles of food that however she left to my home.With her the first time was pretty cold sex,but I knew about it, but I wanted her cause she was really nice, everything covered however.[/QUOTE]I actually went there again for the first time in a while and was impressed. There were some freebie type FOREIGNER women there, as it still is one of the most widely advertised places in St.Pete expat press. Some people only know this place when they first arrive.

But what was really interesting was that there was a decent selection of women, mostly 5-7s but with a 7+ or two. Overall not bad for ***** selection. Prices 5000-7000 rubles for 2-3 hours or more. I was offered a double team from two cute chicks for 9000 rubles until morning. I probably should have taken it, as the price is on par with the salons and with pickup girls it seems to me that more "options" are available. Also offered 5000 rubles for 2 hours after some negotiation. Worth a look IMO.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Rossi's:
I wen there every night, besides the weekend when it get too much crowded, during the other days you find always some girls. Good when I took home that later told me she worked in Magrib, 100 euro, not bad, but nothing wonderful too.
[/QUOTE]I honestly didn't know there were pros at Rossi's... but apparently there are pros everywhere at every club.[QUOTE=Lukasek]XXX:
The problem here that af the beginning they did not want to make me and 2 guys I met inside, after I chatted a little in russia, man door said ok, but with a fee of 1.000 rubles. I wanted to get into ( after all the money I spent one thousand ruble was not making me poorer or richer...), but they did not agree. It was a pity cause many nice normal girls, eye touch and no one foreigners.
[/QUOTE]Very popular place and difficult to get into... simply too packed. But isn't it called "XXXX" or "chitire X"?[QUOTE=Lukasek]Salons:
Here we have the only thing that real worth it in Piter and I will write about salons next time.... LOL ! ;)
The first suggest as many already wrote is to buy a sim card...you will use it many times...
Second as beginning to find a "good" taxi and with good I mean one that is not gonna to rip you too much and that he will have more than one phone numbers of salons.
However I was in many salons with price of 2500 rubles 1 hour, so I am pretty sure, taxi driver charges usually 500 rubles, maybe sometime 1000, but considering how it is sometime even for taxi driver to find the flat, it really worth it, cause with taxi you need less than one hour to check 4-5 salons (there are many not far from Nevski...), but alone it will take you many hours.
So how to find them, for me taxi worth it.
[/QUOTE]I called Domino on my last trip and they brought 2 girls by for me to choose from, both were ok... 7s. I ended up taking a blonde. OK time, but being drunk and tired it was nothing special. Not the girl's fault though. All salons deliver if you ask, but make sure you tell them exactly what you want and that you won't take unattractive girls.