German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2241073]This FKK paying system you are referring is not something official so we cannot tell the girl. There are many bitches out there especially in Artemis that when you don't give them the money you agreed before and although the service was bad they threaten you that they will tell the management that you did BBBJ so you pay the fine. Which can be true but also can be fake (the BBBJ).[/QUOTE]Never been to Artemis, I thought to go to discover legendary Geraldine. Hu, but too many kms for a unknown girl, but in any club, you have to pay for time and official extras, not more. For sure, girls can't prove what kind of sex you had in room, just bullshit to scare you. If not good, just shorten time and leave.

My best tip for girls I like is to repeat with them. When they know I drive so many kms to meet them, some weekly, driving more than 1000 kms, for 1 at World I drove 1300 kms in 17 hours to go and back to work, for 2 1 hour rooms to dream with her, on our second room at 3 am, when softly sucking me, she made me feel asleep, so she asked: You don t like? I answered: I dream. Some who are proud to say: everybody in the club know you come only for me, my tip for enjoyable girls.

Nearly 6 years, more than 700 days in FKK land, not only Germany, but Switzerland, Austria, NL and even Marina Slovenia where I met a Sharks girl and now she smiles to me at Sharks. No complaint on desk from any girl, never needed to take any girl to desk, even so disappointed by Nina Sharks, Mady Oase, Lucy. De Palace, so I left the room before 30 mn, giving them 50 , and no more business from me, when a girl had about 75 hours with me in 6/7 months she worked, before I stopped with her because of her public behavior.

FKK land is for guys pleasure, like Disneyland for children, no need to fight with girls, some others are waiting for business which is lower and lower.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2241320]Well they can call police, but how are they going to prove BBBJ? I mean in any law, proof is must, so it will be hard to get you based on what prostitute said LOL.

I can see this happening though because some FKK girls are so young and stupid in head even though they are like mid or late 20's LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know how they can prove Mr. Ho but do you want to mess up with police and kill completely all the fuck mood?

My mind can only go to hidden cams in the rooms but I doubt if the management of a club would do something like this.

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I have heard of mongers who take FKK tours lasting more than two weeks, but I am not sure whether they would still enjoy the same level of excitement past the first week.[/QUOTE]The trick is to program into your two (or two+) weeks: a two-four day break / pause in all sexual activity, and/or stagger your club visits with one / two day breaks in between FKK visit days. In this context, I often find it productive to go to a city or multiple cities where there is no chance I will engage in any sex, but pursue other activities that interest me. Ironically Amsterdam fits that bill for me, because, despite the fact that I long ago started my mongering history in this town, I now have about ZERO interest in the city's RLDs or other sex opportunities for which that city is (in)famous; but in that town and surroundings there are a host of other non-sex distractions that keep me occupied and very satisified. I then return to FKKs after a few days of abstinence: re-charged and hungry for more action. It also helps me focus better on targets within the club (either girls I've been with before and want to repeat, or new girls I never tried but wish to check-out in the room) with greater precision and confidence.

It works for me, but requires some self-discipline. It also helps to know at the very start of your longer duration stay in Germany that you are running a marathon, not a sprint, so I pace myself during my opening days and limit myself to two, maybe three sessions per club visit, and do not necessarily finish during every session. Also watch what you eat and drink on a day to day basis, and I don't go overboard on consumption of alcoholic beverages, although a few beers at the end of a long FKK visit (for me: I never, ever drink alcohol DURING my FKK stay) is very nice and seems not to adversely affect my performance (s).

But at the end of the day: each person with their own behavioural and metabolism characteristics must figure out their own balances.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2241246]Hamdulillah Ho-san. Even with escorts in Europe, I notice that if a girl asks you to pay in advance that generally means she expects the session will be bad and she's afraid you won't pay at all. So the sensible thing is for a guy to always refuse to pay in advance. In fact, the smartest thing is to cancel right away as clearly the girl does not intend to give you good treatment.

I recently had a weird experience in an out-of-the-way FKK, where a girl asked me to pay in advance. Of course I said no, but I went ahead with the session. I realize this was a mistake: the girl provided a truly awful session. She was a shark. I made a partial payment but the session was worth less than zero.

Lesson learnt. If a girl asks for advance payment: cancel!

By the way, in a Mad-Max FKK like Artemis or Oase, if you have a bad session with a Romanian girl, and the girl at the counter is also Romanian (and a former WG) then obviously she is just going to side with the girl no matter what happens. There is no real oversight in these places, that is why they are Mad-Max FKKs. The solution is damn simple: just don't go to MMFKKs. Go to places with real management.[/QUOTE]How does your experience of not paying in advance work where the working girl culture is for the payment to be in advance such as in Spain or Italy or The Netherlands.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2241411]For those of us who have to fly in from other continents to enjoy the FKK pleasure, the Law of Diminishing Returns applies to our FKK mongering as well.

For me, I usually take 8-day trips, arriving on Saturday morning and departing on the following Sunday morning. From time to time, I have extended my trips to about 10 days.

After about 10 days, the Law of Diminishing Returns starts to turn negative on me. The input of my two most valuable resources, namely time and money, would remain constant but my level of enjoyment and excitement would diminish. I would become over-satiated with too much of a good thing.

I would return a month or so later and reap the maximum output of enjoyment / excitement for the input of my time and money.

I have heard of mongers who take FKK tours lasting more than two weeks, but I am not sure whether they would still enjoy the same level of excitement past the first week.[/QUOTE]I began my FKK tour back in 2009 or 2010. Originally it was 10 days trip everyday FKK, then longest was 14 days everyday FKK as I found out my favorite girl was coming back so I extended my stay to 14 days.

Back then I was in my late 20's. This 10 days or bit more lasted till around 2015, then I began dividing trip to 5 days everyday FKK since then.

Usually after 4th or 5th day it begin to feel like a job to go to FKK to have sex, so I decided to cut trip to 5 days and do that two times per year or if lucky 3 times per years, mostly 2 trips per year so far unfortunately.

For me 5 days FKK trip works the best because I am leaving Germany satisfied, but still wanting to come back, but I do miss those dragging along 10 days trip I used to take because it was so down below time of just waking up eat like pig and fuck in FKK all day long smoking herbs and taking arghinine supplement to have steroid penis so I can keep on fucking LOL.

Like they say those who are more honest to appetite lives longer LOL!

Gentlemen,

Is it me or the WG don't have an idea how to please a man when it is time for CIM?

Almost all girls I have asked for CIM at the end complain that they don't want it to go everywhere because of their make up!

So I actually ask for COF where I want to enjoy shooting my load on mouth and face just like the movies and when it is time they put their hands in front killing the view or they keep it all in mouth with no image pleasure. They do the same to you?

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2241708]Gentlemen,

Is it me or the WG don't have an idea how to please a man when it is time for CIM?

Almost all girls I have asked for CIM at the end complain that they don't want it to go everywhere because of their make up!

So I actually ask for COF where I want to enjoy shooting my load on mouth and face just like the movies and when it is time they put their hands in front killing the view or they keep it all in mouth with no image pleasure. They do the same to you?[/QUOTE]CIM, I always ask to keep on sucking after I cum, most girls do this for me.

COF, I never asked as I am not into this, but I know for the fact that they do not want to ruin their make up drastically as it is extra effort to put make up on again after session, but even more, girls do not like to mess up their hair with sperm if it shoot to hair because washing hair is even more effort and time consuming and not all girls wash their hair daily, maybe this is why they maybe hesitate for COF.

Everything in this post is spot on from my experience with marathon trips. In 2016, I did a great job pacing myself at 2-3 rooms a day but not ever doing more than 3 days in a row, usually only 2 back to back. Maintaining that routine while maintain good general health practices including limiting alcohol, tobacco, and other substances is essential. It takes discipline though. Temptation is high because once in West Germany or Holland, you are never more than 2 hours away from a decent club.

After day 2, one should really take a break. Pushing a 3rd day really becomes hard work and can really take some of the enjoyment out of it. Recharging on day three should make day 4 feel like day 1 or 2.

I fall into bad habits myself but I know that the info in Ortos' post serve as an excellent playbook for 2-3 week trips.

And yeah, Amsterdam is super dope and pretty close.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2241495]The trick is to program into your two (or two+) weeks: a two-four day break / pause in all sexual activity, and/or stagger your club visits with one / two day breaks in between FKK visit days. In this context, I often find it productive to go to a city or multiple cities where there is no chance I will engage in any sex, but pursue other activities that interest me. Ironically Amsterdam fits that bill for me, because, despite the fact that I long ago started my mongering history in this town, I now have about ZERO interest in the city's RLDs or other sex opportunities for which that city is (in)famous; but in that town and surroundings there are a host of other non-sex distractions that keep me occupied and very satisified. I then return to FKKs after a few days of abstinence: re-charged and hungry for more action. It also helps me focus better on targets within the club (either girls I've been with before and want to repeat, or new girls I never tried but wish to check-out in the room) with greater precision and confidence..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2241485]I don't know how they can prove Mr. Ho but do you want to mess up with police and kill completely all the fuck mood?

My mind can only go to hidden cams in the rooms but I doubt if the management of a club would do something like this.[/QUOTE]Over non paid up sell amount, club will not call police.

Again, if you pay house price times time it is OK and as for BBBJ they won't call cop unless they can prove it and even they stupidly call cop they won't be able to prove it. Club do not want problem like this so girl will eventually be kicked out.

I think it is fool to believe all the threat girls make to you, their brain is like a little child, I mean I am going to call police for BBBJ and make you pay big fine if you do not pay the girl? Make me laugh LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2241482]Never been to Artemis, I thought to go to discover legendary Geraldine. Hu, but too many kms for a unknown girl, but in any club, you have to pay for time and official extras, not more. For sure, girls can't prove what kind of sex you had in room, just bullshit to scare you. If not good, just shorten time and leave.

My best tip for girls I like is to repeat with them. When they know I drive so many kms to meet them, some weekly, driving more than 1000 kms, for 1 at World I drove 1300 kms in 17 hours to go and back to work, for 2 1 hour rooms to dream with her, on our second room at 3 am, when softly sucking me, she made me feel asleep, so she asked: You don t like? I answered: I dream. Some who are proud to say: everybody in the club know you come only for me, my tip for enjoyable girls.

Nearly 6 years, more than 700 days in FKK land, not only Germany, but Switzerland, Austria, NL and even Marina Slovenia where I met a Sharks girl and now she smiles to me at Sharks. No complaint on desk from any girl, never needed to take any girl to desk, even so disappointed by Nina Sharks, Mady Oase, Lucy. De Palace, so I left the room before 30 mn, giving them 50 , and no more business from me, when a girl had about 75 hours with me in 6/7 months she worked, before I stopped with her because of her public behavior.

FKK land is for guys pleasure, like Disneyland for children, no need to fight with girls, some others are waiting for business which is lower and lower.[/QUOTE]I think you would love Geraldine, Hungarian, white skin, all natural, beautiful face, about 172 cm without heel or bit taller, small but beautiful tits, pink nipple, amazing service in room and real woman or lady like to your taste, but real pro in bed.

However, I think she also left FKK industry and toward the last time I saw her, she was taking mostly just regular clients. I do believe she is still in the industry somewhere, but I think she left FKK club.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2241843]I think it is fool to believe all the threat girls make to you, their brain is like a little child, I mean I am going to call police for BBBJ and make you pay big fine if you do not pay the girl? Make me laugh LOL.[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha it is indeed funny Mr Ho and thanks for making me laugh as well!

I am going to call the police and tell them I was giving a blow job without condom so go arrest him. LOL LOL LOL.

I must have been a fool that day but you know how it is. You book air tickets you book hotels go with a fuck mood there and the last thing you want is to mess with police. Actually she threatened me after I told her I was going to tell the management how bad service she provided.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2242089]Ha ha ha it is indeed funny Mr Ho and thanks for making me laugh as well!

I am going to call the police and tell them I was giving a blow job without condom so go arrest him. LOL LOL LOL.

I must have been a fool that day but you know how it is. You book air tickets you book hotels go with a fuck mood there and the last thing you want is to mess with police. Actually she threatened me after I told her I was going to tell the management how bad service she provided.[/QUOTE]Put it this way, if FKK club to call police for this, I would be amusing, I would have complain to police that the prostitute wanted upsell me and did not give me GFE service in room to police LOL LOL and this prostitute would be complaining about the BBBJ that I never received after that it will be she say he says, and again I am willing to pay for house price times the time I spent in room and in this case I won't stay in room more than 30 min. Either way, it will be hilarious scene for me to tell German police officer about not receiving GFE service and charging me upsell price LOL.

I never take these prostitute with brain cell of iq 10 years old or not even, I mean I will call police to tell him that I received BBBJ in dark room? LOL LOL, some tutes are smart, but some are so childish and not educated both in school and life.

In most nations, it is even difficult to file complaint that lead to prompt investigation due to lack of evidence, many people are crying for real crime due to this, I do not think police care too much about BBBJ issue in FKK or me pissed of because I did not receive GFE service in FKK room LOL, instead police will be pissed off at FKK club and her for calling them for such stupid issue and FKK club will be pissed off at her LOL.

Again, I think in most cases, if you are willing to pay for house price times the time you spent in room, it should be fine with club and police, but it is only become problem if you do not pay at all or below house price.

There is no camera in room and it would be illegal without consensus and also such camera in rather dim room of FKK has to be expensive one. However, in some FKK, there is a button in room to call security in case of insane client going nut case in room LOL.

Some tute are smart, some tute remind me of some girls I met at early age of high school LOL, I am going to call police if you do not do such and such LOL. Wow I am so scared LOL.

In German FKK, money payment is later and this gives mongers more power over girls, so rise up mongers, the system is design for the rise of super mongers LOL LOL!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2241859]I think you would love Geraldine, Hungarian, white skin, all natural, beautiful face, about 172 cm without heel or bit taller, small but beautiful tits, pink nipple, amazing service in room and real woman or lady like to your taste, but real pro in bed.

However, I think she also left FKK industry and toward the last time I saw her, she was taking mostly just regular clients. I do believe she is still in the industry somewhere, but I think she left FKK club.[/QUOTE]Clever girls are no more in FKK, they have a sugar daddy or doing escort, the man clientele have change so much in the recent years so many none christian around, and also the Asian guys have changed the level is also going down for most of them.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2241818]After day 2, one should really take a break. Pushing a 3rd day really becomes hard work and can really take some of the enjoyment out of it. Recharging on day three should make day 4 feel like day 1 or 2.[/QUOTE]Taking breaks during extended trips is key. I will usually take one roughly every 4 to 5 days. And I try to tell other guys to get some rest too. Sleep! Eat well! Don't drink too much and get drunk every night! Mix in some "normal" touristy things to do, and especially if you're in a place where you've never been before. Learn something of the local culture and cuisine. You'll just enjoy your trip much more and get more out of it if you're not out there 24/7 trying to fuck everything that moves!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2242209]Wow I am so scared LOL.

In German FKK, money payment is later and this gives mongers more power over girls, so rise up mongers, the system is design for the rise of super mongers LOL LOL![/QUOTE]Mr Ho,

This is the description I would give the police.

'This lady told me that she would receive a huge cumshot in her mouth and when I was ready she run away hiding behind the door' LOL LOL LOL.

Thanks for making my day.

There are some ladies that are completely stupid indeed, un-educated WG, sometimes we get blind from their beauty.