Jakarta

Yes the prices are inclusive of rooms. The price quotes for BJ (20 lady drinks) is again for dancers. The non dancer girls have reasonable prices.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123067]I think I did see some non-indo girls upstairs in the balcony area, but didn't inquire. One girl either looked korean or chinese, maybe viet. A couple of Russian or Uzbek or some Eastern European girls. Are these girls also at the Malio Bar, vs the club? And are those prices (2 m, 1. 3 m, 900 k, 400 k) inclusive of the room? I was told by the dancer's papasan / pimp that 1. 3 m (20 x 65 k lady drinks) only would have allowed for a BJ with her. Much too rich for just that though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123067]I think I did see some non-indo girls upstairs in the balcony area, but didn't inquire. One girl either looked korean or chinese, maybe viet. A couple of Russian or Uzbek or some Eastern European girls. Are these girls also at the Malio Bar, vs the club? And are those prices (2 m, 1. 3 m, 900 k, 400 k) inclusive of the room? I was told by the dancer's papasan / pimp that 1. 3 m (20 x 65 k lady drinks) only would have allowed for a BJ with her. Much too rich for just that though.[/QUOTE]I do not know if the prices listed here are still valid, but on this page [URL]https://www.massageprices.com/listing/jakarta/malioboro-hotel-spa/[/URL] It is pretty well explained about Malioboro and different floors. Any expert could confirm?

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123065]Haha, the fact that she tried was not shocking. But I was very annoyed when she started drinking them before I even had a chance to say yes or no. That's when I sent her away and made it clear to the server how many I actually ordered.[/QUOTE]You did the right thing. Send any extra drinks back. Pay attention when in any place, and make YOU are the one ordering. Then there is no questionable 'mistake'.

I generally don'why buy drinks for the girls that come around begging for drinks. Now if one is pretty nice, and I want to feel her up, then I will order 2 of the BS shots. BUT touch her first at the waist or pull her closer to you. If she backs away or holds back (red flag) send her away. Don't waste your money. I want the one who gets close and rubs against me. After all that's why you are buying a drink.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2122767]First time in Jakarta, and even though it was really late around 1 am, decided to check out the Malio Hotel. Google Maps shows two locations when you search Malio-- one on North Petojo near the Lion Air tower (and across from Harris Vertu hotel, which is how I found it from a previous report), and one called "MALIOBORO" on West Rawa. RTF from before, thanks for everyone's reports, but it appears I still need help lol.
where the Malio Bar area was-- is that on the first level? Or another one that I missed? Any other levels to worth checking out?

At this point it was 3 am, and I had a shot in the chamber. Debated between going home and trying one more time-- decided to check out Hotel Classic. Luckily it seems all these places are open until 4 am. While the first floor club area was closed already, the 3rd floor (or level 2) club was open. [/QUOTE]Same place.

Mailo is downstairs, fun bar / club atmosphere with girls available. Dancers will be very expensive, if they will even go with you. The girls seated in groups are less costly. I think around 900 k (ask mama to be sure).
Malioboro is upstairs. That's where you will find a larger number of girls sitting on the hugs couches. All types of girls in there Indo and Foreign / Imports.
Last time I went to Malioboro was about 1. 5-2 years ago. Prices were 1. 2 M for foreign girls and 800 k for Indo ladies. I would think the prices have probably increased since by about 100-1500 k.

Classic Hotel, you went to the Classic 2 as I call it - 2nd level. There is another one Classic 5. Go check it out. Same type of set up and more girls. I went to both last year. Prices range about 350 k if I remember correctly.

Looking forward to another visit.
Have Fun!

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123065]Haha, the fact that she tried was not shocking. But I was very annoyed when she started drinking them before I even had a chance to say yes or no. That's when I sent her away and made it clear to the server how many I actually ordered.[/QUOTE]It's only the dancers who do that. The regular girls who are there to be taken upstairs don't pull that crap. The dancers are there to get you to buy as many drinks as possible and don't really care if you have sex with them or not because they are focused on making money from the drinks. They have a goal of 60 drinks a night, so they are aggressive. (I had one favorite girl dancing there who used to come to my place often after work around 4 am and she would be complaining about having to drink so many Sprites because it gave her an upset stomach. I don't know why the put Sprite in those glasses instead of water.) Some of the dancers will go upstairs with you (for an exorbitant price as you mentioned, but some won't go at all and will only give a BJ for an exorbitant price). I never take the dancers for sex at any venue in Jakarta simply because they are too expensive and the regular girls can be just as good looking. The regular girls just don't show as much of their body so there is a false perception that the dancers are hotter. I do however frequently buy drinks for the dancers. They like to work in pairs. So when you buy for one, another will come up and try to leech drinks as well. I always make it clear to the server immediately that I am only buying for one girl and if that 2nd girl drinks anything, I am not buying those drinks. It's easy to control the number of drinks the first girl gets since she is sitting in my lap. If she tries drinking a drink I didn't give her permission to drink, I will stop her and explain that she has to ask me each time for a drink and cannot drink until I agree. Sometimes the girl will ask me many many times as I fondle her before I finally agree to let her drink another drink. If she does take another drink from the server again without my permission, I refuse to pay for that drink, push her off my lap and tell her to get lost. Like pipelayer99 says, make sure they will allow you to grope them prior to buying any drinks. I think it's good fun and rarely have to push them off my lap. I do normally end up buying a girl around 10 drinks if I like her though.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2122909]Isn't shocking, it's just very annoying.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha! Smoothy, sometimes they don't get your sense of humour! LOL.

Illigals.

Went to check out Illigals the other day, but because it was near New Year's Eve, the spa / pool / sauna area was closed. They told me instead that they had regular and special girls available for FS massage. The "special girls" are supposed to be model quality, but there were none available. I was brought to an area with loud music playing and cocktail tables with groups of girls standing about. I seemed to be the only customer. It was a very large area with two sides and a main counter that takes care of the charges. The mms had all the girls stop looking at their phones and line up, and I selected one of the cuter ones out of about 20 girls (only 2-3 were doable for me). I will say, the facilities here are brand new and very nice as previously reported. It was a little hard to find the entrance as in the front by the street is Starbucks and Burger King-- you have to walk all the way down along the side of Starbucks to get to the lobby.

In the room, my girl was very attentive and sweet. She got really into things after DATY and basically f* the shit out of me. Good attitude and service, even if her body was a little disappointing-- boobs were large but saggy and overall slim but had cellulite. That being said, very sweet and cute face. Her # was 316, I think-- saw it on the board on the way out (they have a screen that shows all the assignments to rooms with the girl's #s? Tipped her 100 k and she seemed happy with that. Total damage without tip was 950 k.

There is also a club of some sort on the first floor. They told me entrance was 150 k so I didn't look inside as I had just done the deed.

Malio.

Went back to Malio on NYE expecting it to be crazy. Turned out to be fairly empty around midnight. It was crazy trying to get there, though, with people setting off fireworks in the middle of the main road and walking through traffic. Ended up spending about an hour in traffic for what should be a 10-15 min drive.

And, I think I've finally figured out the layout of this place (took a fair bit of wandering though).

From the main entrance (by the driveway, south side) if you press 2 on the elevator, you end up at Malio bar and lounge. The elevators open and there's the charge counter. The left side is the live music area that is smaller and has tables of girls sitting around and you can order food and drink. I only noticed a few other customers there and about 15 girls looking bored. On the other side to the right when you exit the elevator is a huge area with large square booths on a lower level, tables, a bar, and a bar / stage where I guess dancers normally dance when there are customers. Since there was nobody there, really, except for a few girls in the booths and four dancers dressed in the same schoolgirl outfit, I left pretty quickly. The four dancers all came over and chatted me up, and I ended up getting them one drink each (50 k per drink). They told me they could go with me to the room for 1. 75 m. Too rich for me. The mms in the live music area told me 350 k for one girl or 600 k for two, and then apparently you need to pay 40 k for each girl for condoms?

Before I made a decision, I went to figure out the layout. From the 2nd level, if you go up the stairs to 3, then you can walk all the way to the other side and when you reach a security post, with a sleepy guard, that's the Malio club area. I ended up entering on the balcony level. It was much busier here, and there were more girls dancing than the other night, but still more dead than I expected. I did see a booth full of eastern european girls, but none looked good to me. There were a fair number of nice and slim Indo girls, what appeared to be Viets, and maybe Chinese. Did not ask prices as there were girls at the 2nd level bar that were just as attractive.

So I went back and decided to take two for the hell of it since it is a good deal at 600 k. I selected a girl with no ass but a smoldering body otherwise-- very tight and firm, with pretty awesome tits. The other girl I wanted who appeared to have a really nice natural body as well said she was on her period. My guess was she didn't want to do a 3-some. Oh well-- ended up picking a really cute faced girl who had nice large natural tits (but just a little bit chubby otherwise) who was also friends with the first girl I picked. I asked them if they would be ok with doing a session together, and they assured me, yes.

Well, I'm not sure if they are not used to doing 3-somes or what, but it took a fair bit of direction on my part. Neither girl took the initiative to fondle or kiss each other, so I had my hands full trying to stimulate both girls. Good thing I'm ambidextrous and also can chew gum at the same time.

Kept the atmosphere fun and light, and the session turned out to be one of the better sessions I've had in the last few years-- definitely hot, and used up all 3 condoms they gave us. One sagami and two really thick ones. Might end up seeing the slim girl that I picked first again, she had quite good English and was much more into things than the other one. Tried to tip each girl 100k, but they told me 200k was "minimum tip". Not sure if that was just the girls trying to take advantage, but I did it anyway (you can tip via credit card too), as the session was good and they both performed well. 1.080m (before VAT) for two girls and 90 minutes is still good. Is there a "minimum tip"?

Regarding tips, on the way out, the security guys called me a taxi, then wanted 100k tip or something. I literally did not have any cash left (only about 25k + 50k emergency) so I said sorry, and walked onto the street and called a Grab. If anyone deserves a tip, it's not these guys-- it's the guys who clean the rooms. Maybe I'll find a way to tip them next time. Given it was NYE right outside the place were cops directing traffic. And earlier there were people all around watching fireworks. I wonder if most people know what goes on inside?

Anyway, definitely some good value to be had here. Need to take a break and then might go back to explore Hotel Classic's other levels, or if I can, arrange an app girl.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123612]Is there a "minimum tip"? [/QUOTE]Nope. You can tip whatever you like. 100 k is what I normally give them. You also don't need to buy condoms. The girls already have condoms in their bags and will whip them out if you don't have them or don't buy them. I think the extra money for condoms scam is only for guys who can't speak Indonesian because they never ask me if I want to buy a condom. It's best to bring your own condoms anyway because their condoms are crap.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123612]
If anyone deserves a tip, it's not these guys-- it's the guys who clean the rooms. Maybe I'll find a way to tip them next time.[/QUOTE]The girls have to tip them, so if you are leaving the girls more of a tip you can consider that money going directly to the guys cleaning the rooms if you like. I think the girls leave them 20 k each time.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123612]I wonder if most people know what goes on inside? [/QUOTE]It's rare that I have met any local in Jakarta who does not know what goes on inside Malioboro. They may not have been inside, but they know what goes on. Alexis used to be the most famous brothel, but Malioboro and Hotel Classic are also very well known.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123612]
Malio. And, I think I've finally figured out the layout of this place (took a fair bit of wandering though).

From the main entrance (by the driveway, south side) if you press 2 on the elevator, you end up at Malio bar and lounge. The elevators open and there's the charge counter. The left side is the live music area that is smaller and has tables of girls sitting around and you can order food and drink. I only noticed a few other customers there and about 15 girls looking bored. On the other side to the right when you exit the elevator is a huge area with large square booths on a lower level, tables, a bar, and a bar / stage where I guess dancers normally dance when there are customers. Since there was nobody there, really, except for a few girls in the booths and four dancers dressed in the same schoolgirl outfit, I left pretty quickly. The four dancers all came over and chatted me up, and I ended up getting them one drink each (50 k per drink). They told me they could go with me to the room for 1. 75 m. Too rich for me. The mms in the live music area told me 350 k for one girl or 600 k for two, and then apparently you need to pay 40 k for each girl for condoms?[/QUOTE]The place you describe in the paragraph above on the 2nd floor to the right of the elevator with a bar and tables full of import girls on one level and couches with Harem Indo girls on the lower level is Malioboro Lounge. As you correctly pointed out, there you will find some very attractive & friendly Indo Malioboro dancer girls that want 1,750,000 rp, the import girls are 1,400,000 rp, and the harem Indo couch girls are 900,000 rp & 1,100,000 rp respectively.

A simple way to understand the layout of this establishment is to envision walking from the street down the driveway: 1) the first entrance into the building leads past a front desk on your left and directly to the elevators which will take you up to the Malioboro Lounge on your right and the small bar on your left when facing the room registration desk. 2) the 2nd entrance into the building opens directly to a different front desk. Walk thru the doors to the left of this front desk past the elevators and stairs and you are in Malio Club on the ground level. Once inside Malio Club you will find more harem Indo couch girls sitting to the left and right and dancers on the stage and walking around the bar huslting for drinks in exchange for slight sexual favors. I have never seen import girls in Malio Club. The Malio couch girls are 900,000 rp & 1,100.000 rp same as in Malioboro.

On my last trip to Jakarta I had the plesaure of 2 Malio Club harem couch girls one of which was extra good so I repeated with her 4 times. On two other nights I also had the pleasure of one of the Malio dancers who went upstairs with me to a private room for 2,000,000 rp. I am not sure if all the Malio Club dancers go to private rooms with customers because I have been quoted some crazy rates from a couple of Malio dancers so I just assume they were not into having sexual congress with me. 555. I do know the dancers will all try to coax you up to the 2nd floor semi private mezzanine for very expensive BJ's which does not interest me in the slightest.

I also had a session with a sexy Malioboro Lounge dancer my 1st night back for 1,750,000rp. And on a very quiet Easter Sunday night when the place was rather low key and many girls just failed to show up, I took a very sexy and very petite Chinese import girl from Malioboro Lounge (1,400,000rp) and I had a very good time with her.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123612]
Before I made a decision, I went to figure out the layout. From the 2nd level, if you go up the stairs to 3, then you can walk all the way to the other side and when you reach a security post, with a sleepy guard, that's the Malio club area. I ended up entering on the balcony level. It was much busier here, and there were more girls dancing than the other night, but still more dead than I expected. I did see a booth full of eastern european girls, but none looked good to me. There were a fair number of nice and slim Indo girls, what appeared to be Viets, and maybe Chinese. Did not ask prices as there were girls at the 2nd level bar that were just as attractive.

So I went back and decided to take two for the hell of it since it is a good deal at 600 k. I selected a girl with no ass but a smoldering body otherwise-- very tight and firm, with pretty awesome tits. The other girl I wanted who appeared to have a really nice natural body as well said she was on her period. My guess was she didn't want to do a 3-some. Oh well-- ended up picking a really cute faced girl who had nice large natural tits (but just a little bit chubby otherwise) who was also friends with the first girl I picked. I asked them if they would be ok with doing a session together, and they assured me, yes.

Well, I'm not sure if they are not used to doing 3-somes or what, but it took a fair bit of direction on my part. Neither girl took the initiative to fondle or kiss each other, so I had my hands full trying to stimulate both girls. Good thing I'm ambidextrous and also can chew gum at the same time.

Kept the atmosphere fun and light, and the session turned out to be one of the better sessions I've had in the last few years-- definitely hot, and used up all 3 condoms they gave us. One sagami and two really thick ones. Might end up seeing the slim girl that I picked first again, she had quite good English and was much more into things than the other one. Tried to tip each girl 100k, but they told me 200k was "minimum tip". Not sure if that was just the girls trying to take advantage, but I did it anyway (you can tip via credit card too), as the session was good and they both performed well. 1.080m (before VAT) for two girls and 90 minutes is still good. Is there a "minimum tip"?

Anyway, definitely some good value to be had here. Need to take a break and then might go back to explore Hotel Classic's other levels, or if I can, arrange an app girl.[/QUOTE]Great reportage Dirk! I am glad you had a good time. Malio / Malioboro is one of my favorite brothels in Asia. I have never done the 2 girls for 600,000 deal in the small bar opposite Malioboro Lounge that you reported on above. I think I will have to check out that space on my next few visits and see if there are any girls there pretty enough to entice me away from my favorites: the expensive dancers and my 2nd favorite: the Indo harem couch girls of both Malioboro Lounge and Malio Club.

P.S. In my humble experience, being with two sexy Asian bisexual girls in a threesome is quite rare. In fact I have never had it. Thus the best I can usually expect in SE Asia is two girls dedicated to taking good care of me simultaneously as in one girl riding my dick while the other girl is riding my face or something along those lines. But I will say this, with the right girls Asian threeway can be a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2123706]the best I can usually expect in SE Asia is two girls dedicated to taking good care of me simultaneously as in one girl riding my dick while the other girl is riding my face.[/QUOTE]It's a rough life.

As for the tip I was also quoted 200 k is the minimum tip there. With the service that I got in Malio compared to other places, I guess it's pretty good deal.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2123706]The place you describe in the paragraph above on the 2nd floor to the right of the elevator with a bar and tables full of import girls on one level and couches with Harem Indo girls on the lower level is Malioboro Lounge. As you correctly pointed out, there you will find some very attractive & friendly Indo Malioboro dancer girls that want 1,750,000 rp, the import girls are 1,400,000 rp, and the harem Indo couch girls are 900,000 rp & 1,100,000 rp respectively.

A simple way to understand the layout of this establishment is to envision walking from the street down the driveway: 1) the first entrance into the building leads past a front desk on your left and directly to the elevators which will take you up to the Malioboro Lounge on your right and the small bar on your left when facing the room registration desk. 2) the 2nd entrance into the building opens directly to a different front desk. Walk thru the doors to the left of this front desk past the elevators and stairs and you are in Malio Club on the ground level. Once inside Malio Club you will find more harem Indo couch girls sitting to the left and right and dancers on the stage and walking around the bar huslting for drinks in exchange for slight sexual favors. I have never seen import girls in Malio Club. The Malio couch girls are 900,000 rp & 1,100.000 rp same as in Malioboro.
[/QUOTE]Hmm. That makes more sense, I did not notice a second entrance farther down the driveway. Will save some wandering next time I am trying to go to the club.

Regarding the harem / import girls, I think I saw some women around (and men?) who were the mms / pps. But I'm not sure. Are they supposed to approach or do I need to identify and flag them down somehow? It was also pretty slim pickings this past week, maybe because of the public holiday or nights I went.

And the time you went with a dancer for 2 m, was that all inclusive? I was quoted separately for room (2,080,000) and then was told I'd have to buy lady drinks also (x20 = 1. 3 m). I wonder if anyone has been successful arranging to meet a dancer or girl they've sessioned with outside the club / establishment, as I've gotten several numbers but they've been quite flaky. Do I need to explicitly offer cash or hint at it somehow so they know I'm serious?

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123835]I wonder if anyone has been successful arranging to meet a dancer or girl they've sessioned with outside the club / establishment, as I've gotten several numbers but they've been quite flaky. Do I need to explicitly offer cash or hint at it somehow so they know I'm serious?[/QUOTE]If you didn't take the girl to the private room for sex, it will likely be difficult to get her to come to your room. She normally has to know you a bit more than a casual meeting in the bar because she has to trust you enough to come to your place. A couple have come to my room after just meeting them once casually and buying a few drinks for them, but that was after many texts and promising a certain price (I promised 1 million). If you can find one who speaks English, that is a much more likely target than one of those kampung girls who speaks no English.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123835]Hmm. I wonder if anyone has been successful arranging to meet a dancer or girl they've sessioned with outside the club / establishment, as I've gotten several numbers but they've been quite flaky. Do I need to explicitly offer cash or hint at it somehow so they know I'm serious?[/QUOTE]Yes I have been success. I have called 2 girls to my room for threesome. They stayed with me for 4 days.

But to bring up this situation, it took me a lot of hard work to keep in touch with those girls regularly, while I was in my home country. Once the girls gain trust, they are fine to join us in our room.

Damage: I offered them 1 Million per day per girl.

I was talking to a working girl in my hotel room after sex. She said that Alexis is not closed, its just renamed and is operating at same place. Is it true?