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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2264378]Taking a Pinay overseas for a holiday seems like a major headache. Photos with the in-laws, flash cash, medical insurance, newly minted passport, border control interrogations etc seems like a major hassle.

What's wrong with taking your instant girlfriend to Palawan? Seems like a nice place for a holiday. Oh yeah, she still needs valid ID to get on a plane and most don't have one.[/QUOTE]Many forms of ID are accepted in Philippines for domestic airplane travel. I have seen school IDs, bar IDs, work IDs, postal IDs and barangay IDs used for airplane travel. I have seen Barangay IDs issued in one afternoon. Take your instant GF for a beach holiday!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2264384]I have seen school IDs[/QUOTE]Thanks DG. A mate of mine at home once went to a fancy dress party with his chick dressed in a school uniform. Only thing was that was actually her school uniform. She was 17.

Now back to the Phils, I've asked this chick in Makati to go to her Barangay Office and get photo ID. She keeps asking me why? This is the one I sent money to for Christmas and she got her cousin to collect. Some chicks are just allergic to paperwork.

DG, has any chick used her hygiene card with the doctors stamps to get on a plane? LOL. One chick I was was with left her bar ID at the bar and only had her hygiene card, so the security guard accepted that and kept it at reception while she was banging me.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2264418]Thanks DG. A mate of mine at home once went to a fancy dress party with his chick dressed in a school uniform. Only thing was that was actually her school uniform. She was 17.

Now back to the Phils, I've asked this chick in Makati to go to her Barangay Office and get photo ID. She keeps asking me why? This is the one I sent money to for Christmas and she got her cousin to collect. Some chicks are just allergic to paperwork.

DG, has any chick used her hygiene card with the doctors stamps to get on a plane? LOL. One chick I was was with left her bar ID at the bar and only had her hygiene card, so the security guard accepted that and kept it at reception while she was banging me.[/QUOTE]Let me clarify this a bit. I stated these were acceptable IDs for airplane travel. Most of these IDs may not be acceptable to get money at WU or other money transfer places. I have been told that some money places have a higher ID standard for foreign incoming money transfers than domestic transfers.

I have had hotels accept the girl's 2 year expired high school picture ID.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2264489]Let me clarify this a bit. I stated these were acceptable IDs for airplane travel. Most of these IDs may not be acceptable to get money at WU or other money transfer places. I have been told that some money places have a higher ID standard for foreign incoming money transfers than domestic transfers.

I have had hotels accept the girl's 2 year expired high school picture ID.[/QUOTE]Within the Philippines any ID is OK as you say DG. Took girls from Cebu to Manila etc using school ID, postal and one time a fake drivers ID. As long as the name and photo look OK then no one asks.

But overseas clearly a passport but then could be a nightmare so it pays to plan and be prepared.

I've now met about 6 bar girls / waitresses / massage girls who want to go home to the provinces or the regional towns that they came from and open a sari sari store. One of them failed in this venture previously, but wants to have another attempt at it. What's changed? Has she now got a degree in economics or commerce? A couple of them knew that relatives and friends will buy shit from the store on credit and never, ever pay back, thus sending the store broke. So what's the big fascination with sari sari stores? How much money can you make from selling coffee and shampoo sachets?

These girls can't budget one day in advance and they think that somehow they can run a business?

A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work. She really wanted to get an iPhone 8's, but I convinced her that a Samsung was cheaper and did the same thing. What did she do with the rest? Well, she spent the remainder on useless Christmas presents for her family. I told her to keep some for emergencies, like the electricity bill or next months' rent, but obviously budgeting for the next month was a totally foreign concept for her. LOL. She is now so broke that she can't afford a bus fare back to Caloocan from Makati for NYE. Unfortunately, my safe is closed and I can't remember the combination number. LOL.

And she is one of the girls that wants to own a sari sari store FFS! I love the Philippines.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267085]I've now met about 6 bar girls / waitresses / massage girls who want to go home to the provinces or the regional towns that they came from and open a sari sari store. One of them failed in this venture previously, but wants to have another attempt at it. What's changed? Has she now got a degree in economics or commerce? A couple of them knew that relatives and friends will buy shit from the store on credit and never, ever pay back, thus sending the store broke. So what's the big fascination with sari sari stores? How much money can you make from selling coffee and shampoo sachets?

These girls can't budget one day in advance and they think that somehow they can run a business?

A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work..[/QUOTE]Do you still think charity is good? Now, that sweet young thing is marooned in Makati without bus fare back to Caloocan for New Year's Eve because her self-reliance died the day that she learned some mongers are willing to wire large chunks of free cash to her from their rich country. Instead of giving rub and tugs to make an honest living, she now sits at Western Union remittance agencies with her new Samsung Galaxy phone using the free Wi-Fi to message pleas for cash donations from charitable mongers.

Now, you experienced firsthand how mongers providing welfare turn the hardest working girls into lazy mendicants who no longer have the pride and work ethic that once drove them to work that pussy until it squirt, never dreaming of asking foreigners for handouts. Unfortunately, the expectation of free cash remittances from abroad will now lead to that sweet young thing stranding herself in places far worse than the bus terminal in Makati, as she waits for a Western Union hero to save her from poverty.

It will not be long before the new Samsung Galaxy ends up in the nearest five six pawned for bus fare to Caloocan or snatched.

Just like everywhere else people think a business makes a ton of money. That every business owner is rich. I have known a few people who have started a store. They have great sales in the beginning. Downfall is extending credit and not setting aside money to restock. Other reason is family. Family think they are rich and hit them up for "loans". Family loans are never paid back.

Most sari sari stores make 200-300 pesos gross profit a day. Usually run by a family member who is home all day watching kids and washing clothes. Enough to put food on the table.

I remember a girl who sent her family some money to start a food cart. With in a week they were out of business. I asked why? They had sales of 400 a day and costs of 200, leaving a profit of 200. She said they spent the 400 sales one day leaving no money to restock the supplies for the next day! Sadly they would hound her everyday to send money for food.

I sent some Christmas money gift to one of my favorites and told her to tell me exactly how your name appears on your I the, Okay done and sent. I got a chat back oops she could not receive gift; please remove middle name and just put initial. OK, I did that. And that worked as I got a nice reply and thanks along with promises I hope happen. It seems even the simplest questions get wrong answer from these girls. Just go with the flow, it is worth it. BTW, W Union is apparently very picky.

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A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work. She really wanted to get an iPhone 8's, but I convinced her that a Samsung was cheaper and did the same thing. What did she do with the rest? Well, she spent the remainder on useless Christmas presents for her family. I told her to keep some for emergencies, like the electricity bill or next months' rent, but obviously budgeting for the next month was a totally foreign concept for her. LOL. She is now so broke that she can't afford a bus fare back to Caloocan from Makati for NYE. Unfortunately, my safe is closed and I can't remember the combination number. LOL.
.[/QUOTE]At the moment I am sponsoring my 19 year old cutie through a program which is needed for experience to get a job. Sent her some money for x mas. Part of it for x mas with her fellow students. Gave her some more money for a passport. She spent that money to get braces. Her teeth were perfect before. She mentioned about braces when I was with her. I told her she does not really need it and let it go.

Sent some more money for her dress for x mas with some extra money. Sent some more money for her birthday with family. I told her to save some money from all the money I sent for a rainy day.

Other day she tells me she needs some more money for exams. I knew very well what I paid for her educations covers everything in full. I told her I will not send anymore money till she learns to control her spending. Also asked her about why she is asking for money all the time and how she managed before I got into the picture. I told her if she needs money she should find a job. These lazy girls do not make any effort to work hard. I told her clearly there will not be any money coming till I see her next time.

Sometimes you need to put your foot down. So what if she finds somebody. There are always plenty of girls looking for money.

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Sometimes you need to put your foot down. So what if she finds somebody. There are always plenty of girls looking for money.[/QUOTE]Most poor women from developing countries have little knowledge about money management as they've never had any money to start with. Most of the financial decisions are made by men. We can't expect them to change their behaviour after generations of financial illiteracy.

Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.

I've already moved on from mine. LOL. As you say, there are plenty of girls looking for money.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267300]Most poor women from developing countries have little knowledge about money management as they've never had any money to start with. Most of the financial decisions are made by men. We can't expect them to change their behaviour after generations of financial illiteracy.

Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.

I've already moved on from mine. LOL. As you say, there are plenty of girls looking for money.[/QUOTE]There is also a distinction between being able to manage small and large sums of money.

I've actually found many of the girls are good at micro managing small amounts when things are tight. Preparing cheap meals, bargaining for goods and the like.

However, they have no experience with, and are atrocious at, managing relatively large sums. As you found, annual tuition, Celebration funding or house payments are often rediverted and frittered away. This is especially true if there is a magic pot that mysteriously keeps replacing these lost funds.

Strangely, I also know guys who are the opposite: successfully manage their large investment pools but $100 burns a hole in their pocket.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2267309]There is also a distinction between being able to manage small and large sums of money.

I've actually found many of the girls are good at micro managing small amounts when things are tight. Preparing cheap meals, bargaining for goods and the like.

However, they have no experience with, and are atrocious at, managing relatively large sums. As you found, annual tuition, Celebration funding or house payments are often rediverted and frittered away. This is especially true if there is a magic pot that mysteriously keeps replacing these lost funds.

Strangely, I also know guys who are the opposite: successfully manage their large investment pools but $100 burns a hole in their pocket.[/QUOTE]Poor money management can be said about some pooreingners. Some have left the home land with a mountain of debt and creditors chasing them. The only thing going for them is the unattachable monthly pension check. Which they will pxss away before months end.

Most Pinays can’t hold on to the bankable funds due to tremendous pressure from family, cousins and friends for money. The pressure is so great that I knew a girl who quit her job because of the new found relatives money requests. I saw her cell phone with all the new found “cousin’s” request for money. She told me even though she was hungry that it was much less stressful to say she wasn’t working anymore and had no money.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2267315]Poor money management can be said about some pooreingners. Some have left the home land with a mountain of debt and creditors chasing them. The only thing going for them is the unattachable monthly pension check. Which they will pxss away before months end.

Most Pinays cant hold on to the bankable funds due to tremendous pressure from family, cousins and friends for money. The pressure is so great that I knew a girl who quit her job because of the new found relatives money requests. I saw her cell phone with all the new found cousins request for money. She told me even though she was hungry that it was much less stressful to say she wasnt working anymore and had no money.[/QUOTE]More than one pinay I have known and know who are OFW face the same issues.

I advise them to have an account in the Philippines one that no one know abut and put a third of their salary there for a rainy day etc. Rest is split between any lay family request and herself on the country (generally UAE and the cost of living is high there). But. The family get to know, they are 'rich' so family want a sari sari store (with the obvious results as posted earlier), want the latest Nike etc. Then lola is sick etc. Happens all so often that the only way is cut them off, block them from all chat apps etc. One has done this and her life is better she says from the daily requests and people being sick etc.

Another followed the advice had her secret stash but her sis found out when the pinay had a slip of the tongue. She gave her trusting sister the PIN so she could start the house for herself when she returned only to find the family had spent it all on stupid things so she had no savings, no house, no job and was screwed. All by her family!

And they never learn. You can share these experiences with them but they won't believe you, won't listen then ask you for help when the sh*t hits the fam and hey have been undone by their loving family LOL.

I'm pretty much of a night owl when on the prowl, which means that I can sometimes find myself out during the wee hours of the morning. Can anybody recommend any good restaurants in Makati, Cebu, or Angeles City that are open 24/7 with a good assortment of dishes on the menu? I just may find myself wanting something to eat at say 3 or 4 in the morning if I am still out and about all by my lonesome self. So if you know of any places that are both reliable and good, please do tell. And thanks in advance for any info!

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Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.[/QUOTE]I sent my honey a pretty good sized Christmas gift. She let me know she had recieved it and was sooooo thankful, I didn't even ask what she would do with the money. Better to not know and avoid the temptation of a judgemental reply by me. I am sure it was gone in less than one day.