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I thought I would come back quick in the Art. Unfortunately, the new airport is located very far from the place and based on what I read here the lineup is far from its bestest. The last time I came it was Q4 2019 I had one session and a black dark skin lady refused to go in the Zimmer with me. Wait and see. For sure, I couldn't spent 2 night per month like before.
You are my indicators, guys: I'll come back when this thread will be more active.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2619592]I thought I would come back quick in the Art. Unfortunately, the new airport is located very far from the place and based on what I read here the lineup is far from its bestest. The last time I came it was Q4 2019 I had one session and a black dark skin lady refused to go in the Zimmer with me. Wait and see. For sure, I couldn't spent 2 night per month like before.
You are my indicators, guys: I'll come back when this thread will be more active.[/QUOTE]In my view nothing will be clarified and no line up will be up to standard before Q1 2022.
Christmas isn't for good line ups. The girls go to their families / vacation and those who stay spend time dancing to Turkish songs.
[QUOTE=BartSimpsons;2618376]So, you do not recommend going on the 22nd of December as there can be not enough girls?[/QUOTE]I cannot recommend nor predict. I can only talk about probabilities and you have to make a decision for your own. Here's some 'facts' that you can base your decision on. Girls that can afford to go home with Christmas actually do so. So the better girls will be gone home. Their timing usually is to be home just before Christmas. So December 22 is too close to Christmas. Now, with Covid the situation is a bit different. Fewer girls, fewer beauties. But still, the girls that earn well enough will be heading home by Christmas. But if you want to visit Artemis when it's more quiet, then December 22 is not a bad day. If you want to feel the Artemis vibe like it was there pre-Covid then you might just wait till Summer 2022 and look for a Messe (exhibition) day. The first month of the year usually is quiet too as especially the girls in Artemis have a habit of overstaying their Christmas holiday, only returning in February or March even. But that too could be a bit different with Covid now but then still the better earning girls will be more likely to overstay their holiday.
But as I remember, you wanted to go on a Wednesday as things will be more quiet. So no problem. It will be quiet. From this you should be able to draw your own conclusion. Just remember that this applies to all venues. Perhaps not for Amsterdam RLD as girls simply like that city a lot and stay put.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2619592]I thought I would come back quick in the Art. Unfortunately, the new airport is located very far from the place and based on what I read here the lineup is far from its bestest. The last time I came it was Q4 2019 I had one session and a black dark skin lady refused to go in the Zimmer with me. Wait and see. For sure, I couldn't spent 2 night per month like before.
You are my indicators, guys: I'll come back when this thread will be more active.[/QUOTE]The new airport is just a few train stops more than the former East-Berlin airport Schnefeld. Not too bad. Tegel is gone. So is Tempelhof for a long time now. Airports tend to move away from city centers. My personal opinion is that Artemis will be back in business again around May-June 2022.
[QUOTE=BartSimpsons;2617615]Hello,
I would like to ask you some questions about Artemis.
I am planning to visit it on Wednesday 22nd of December as I will be in Berlin on this day. I visit such places not so often, being to couple brothels only but not like this one.
Is there any specific things that I should know?
I heard that on Wednesdays girls walk dressed on?
In general, Wednesday is a good day to go, not to crowded, enough girls?
And what about money payment, if I walk only with a towel or bathrobe I should carry cash with me all the time?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I believe Wednesday is lingerie day, so if you want to see the girl in lingerie and not naked then go Wednesday.
Crowed on Wed, it depends, December 22 will not be crowded with guys. Girls, that is speculative.
Always pay after you finish, walk back to the lock boxes in the lobby and get your money from there and hand the money to the girl. I haven't been to Artemis in 4 years. I heard the price for basic service went up from 60 Euro to 70 Euro, but you can get clarification from others in this forum. Just remember to always negotiate for anything above and beyond basic service (BJ and sex) before you go to the room. I always try and negotiate for BBBJ with that basic service as I'm used to the FKK world before the law passed in 2017. Many girls, not all, but many will still give BBBJ for the basic rate. But I'm sure it depends on the guy and if they like you or not.
Hi,
Does anybody knows if Hungarian MILF Jolene / Evelyn / Rubi is still around?
TIA.
Will be in Berlin during Wednesday to Monday, what would be the best day and time to get into Artemis? Preferably would like to see as much girls as possible? Also, has anyone been there during November? From the reports in this thread it seems that there's not much going on now?
[QUOTE=Buffoon;2622487]Will be in Berlin during Wednesday to Monday, what would be the best day and time to get into Artemis? Preferably would like to see as much girls as possible? Also, has anyone been there during November? From the reports in this thread it seems that there's not much going on now?[/QUOTE]Back in the good times, you can read whole page about which days best: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1292977&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1292977.
ShinyCrazy posted this today on Berlin thread -[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2623639&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2623639.
Copied as useful here. Such huge change from glory days.
FKK Artemis:
It's been a long time since I've visited Artemis, and the online reports of Artemis post-COVID are slim. So here was my experience:
Paid my 90 Euro entrance, took my shower, and started to peruse the talent. Figured that an afternoon and evening of FKK style relaxation would cure my jet lag. Found one young German girl from Hamburg that was cute. Asked for one hour with kissing, DATY, cum two times, once in pussy, once with BBBJ and CIM. Quoted 300. I laughed and explained that I've never paid more than 200 for that in any FKK club. She wouldn't budge. Tried another girl from Bulgaria with dark hair who also was cute. Basically same quote. I thought, WTF is wrong with Artemis? Did I just waste 90 Euros on the entrance? The facilities are still clean and nice. The saunas are operating. The massage and hammam guys are available. The indoor pool downstairs is still freezing, and only barely warmer than the outdoor pool. The main bar is still a densely smoke filled cancer ward. By the way, your N95 mask is handy to protect you from the acrid fog produced by chain smoking Romanian girls. The food is still absolutely terrible. Worst FKK club food I've ever had. So everything is the same except the girls are now asking for 300 per hour for a decent experience? That is insane. I was literally packing up to leave and stomping down the spiral staircase saying loudly that this is the worst FKK club I've ever seen, when I was accosted by a Greek girl with cleopatra eye makeup. She wore a black midriff cloth to cover a slight paunch in the belly. Likely in her late 30's. She agreed to 210 for my service request, so we went off to a room. Her math was as follows: 70 per half hour times two equals 140 plus 20 for BBBJ / kissing plus 50 for.
CIM equals 210. Over 200 per hour still seems ridiculous unless you include anal, but in the room, she was an animal and earned the money. Kissed like she wanted to eat me. She put herself in crazy positions all over the sofa and just generally was a non stop fucking animal for an hour. My faith in FKK was redeemed for the moment. Tried a few more girls, but continued to get silly quotes. Finally found a Dominican girl who again agreed to 210 and we were off to the races. Once in the room, she wouldn't position herself properly for DATY always keeping too far away for my mouth to reach, wouldn't really kiss to speak of despite promising kissing, tried to direct the whole session by telling me to "relax" and lie back and she would do everything. In the end, she just gave me BBBJ / CIM twice. I never even got a chance to fuck. Pretty strange session and not exactly what I had in mind, but at least I came twice. Four orgasms in one short evening is pretty much a maximum performance for me, so I headed back to my hotel. Would I return to Artemis? I don't think so. The food is terrible and the girls are asking silly money for limited service. I had more time in Berlin, but I chose to go to brothels for the other days instead. Overall, the combination of limited staffing and pricing of 300 Euro per hour for normal good service is going to kill the FKK model. I am seriously worried that these clubs will not survive.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2623736]ShinyCrazy posted this today on Berlin thread -[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2623639&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2623639.
Copied as useful here. Such huge change from glory days.
[/QUOTE]As you kind of hint NN, is this what we are now forced to accept? 300 for an hour of multiple and extras or is this something that the girls are doing to try and recoup the lost income with only a few customers. And if we pay it, they will continue to ask for it. I guess only time will tell, right?
If there are enough girls charging only 200, then maybe the 300 ladies will have to lower their prices. It is not like you can go to the other FKK across town. Sad.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2623803]As you kind of hint NN, is this what we are now forced to accept? 300 for an hour of multiple and extras or is this something that the girls are doing to try and recoup the lost income with only a few customers. And if we pay it, they will continue to ask for it. I guess only time will tell, right?
If there are enough girls charging only 200, then maybe the 300 ladies will have to lower their prices. It is not like you can go to the other FKK across town. Sad.[/QUOTE]Again, for me it depends on what I'm getting for that 300 euros. If it's an hour of straight sex plus anal sex with BBBJ / CIM, then I'm in. I don't pay extra for kissing or dining between the thighs (or most anything else). I remember one time a tute asked me to pay extra to watch her kiss another tute. I laughed in her face hahaha!
Thanks for the recent reports, consequently Artemis has been removed from my FKK autumn tour.
100 for 30 minutes to include everything except the bum hole is my maximum fee.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2623803]As you kind of hint NN, is this what we are now forced to accept? 300 for an hour of multiple and extras or is this something that the girls are doing to try and recoup the lost income with only a few customers. And if we pay it, they will continue to ask for it. I guess only time will tell, right?
If there are enough girls charging only 200, then maybe the 300 ladies will have to lower their prices. It is not like you can go to the other FKK across town. Sad.[/QUOTE]I always go up front and says I pay 150 euro for one hour for GFE with DFK etc and usually it is fine by girls, and like the guy, max I ever paid was 200 euro per hour including real dirty rimming on me and it was worth it though LOL! But usually it is 150 euro per hour for GFE.
I also hear Artemis raise their 30 min club rate to 60 to 70 euro! I hope the service level went up with the price!
Complain to Kenna to fix this mess, club raise the price, why girls are raising price even higher? Artemis is already highest price club in the German FKK industry, so service and control has to be more in place!
Hi guys!
Thanks for the important information you share with us here in the forum.
I understand that Artemis is not good place anymore, I'll be at Berlin in December 15 and I wondering if there is another place like Artemis but better?
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=VirginMen;2624345]Hi guys!
Thanks for the important information you share with us here in the forum.
I understand that Artemis is not good place anymore, I'll be at Berlin in December 15 and I wondering if there is another place like Artemis but better?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I am no expert, and Berlin most of my favorite places in Berlin are closed, Caligula, airport girls, Mustafa, insomnia on Thursday night there was always a gangbang with house girls, 90 bucks get in Artemis, and 100 bucks for 30 minutes is no bargain, I would try Leipzip, they have a couple FKK there, never been there I hear it's a nice city.
[QUOTE=Sailor501;2624535]I am no expert, and Berlin most of my favorite places in Berlin are closed, Caligula, airport girls, Mustafa, insomnia on Thursday night there was always a gangbang with house girls, 90 bucks get in Artemis, and 100 bucks for 30 minutes is no bargain, I would try Leipzip, they have a couple FKK there, never been there I hear it's a nice city.[/QUOTE]Mustafa is in jail because he violated the law and recruited minors. No sorries about him.
As for Insomnia, it is going back to normal gradually. According to its website, it has the International Sex Affairs on Tuesdays and the gangbang on Saturdays. Check the Insomnia thread.