Jakarta

Can anyone confirm if Classic Terminal is still open? I want to visit there one day and I will definitely report back!

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2124797]I was talking to a working girl in my hotel room after sex. She said that Alexis is not closed, its just renamed and is operating at same place. Is it true?[/QUOTE]Fingers crossed! Any intel is appreciated.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2124797]I was talking to a working girl in my hotel room after sex. She said that Alexis is not closed, its just renamed and is operating at same place. Is it true?[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Alexis since 2012. Too damn expensive and too damn far away from everything. I feel there have always been plenty of better options in Jakarta as far as value for money and convenience. However, I do know people who did enjoy going there. From what I hear, Alexis as we know it as a "massage place" that included full sex is closed. What may be open is the first floor disco called 4play. I did hear a rumor that disco is still open. My bet is that if you ask your working girl if the name of the place is 4play, she will say yes. That is just the disco.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2123612]Well, I'm not sure if they are not used to doing 3-somes or what, but it took a fair bit of direction on my part. Neither girl took the initiative to fondle or kiss each other, so I had my hands full trying to stimulate both girls. Good thing I'm ambidextrous and also can chew gum at the same time.[/QUOTE]Unlike other posters, 3 somes are hard for me to find and usually end up being stressed serial sessions. The advice I gathered is that it is best to let the girl choose the third.

If you get repeats or regular, you can get a feel if the girl is bisexual. IMHO, those are the gems and I sometimes fail to appreciate till it is too late.

Emporium.

I saw earlier reports of Emporium and even though folks said it wasn't anything special, I had one of the best experiences thus far in Jakarta here. Obviously, a lot of it has to do with the chemistry with the girl, and it wasn't cheap, but the setup and vibe of the place was a little less chaotic and less pressure than Malio.

On getting there, just make sure you are going to Emporium Hotel, and not Emporium Pluit, as my driver almost thought (I had to correct him before we set off, would have been a long drive to nowhere!

I felt Emporium had facilities nearly as nice as Illigals, and the girls were a step up. There were two levels of girls, 1. 25 and 1. 08 or something like that, so not much difference. There were cuties in each group, they only have local indo girls. I ended up picking a girl that looked completely non-indo (of course many look different with their dyed hair and colored contact lenses), and it turned out she was 1/4 mixed. Absolutely stunning to my eyes, and had a very built body, plus very sweet and friendly demeanor. Service was pretty incredible, and even with a slight language barrier, there was some chemistry that helped.

Before the session, I decided to to avail of the sauna and hot pools. It was pretty empty, I guess because it's still sort of the holiday period, but it was nice facilities. Tip: keep the shorts they give you on. I went FKK mode and took them off in the sauna, and the staff had a good laugh at my expense.

Overall, I would recommend Emporium especially given it's very near central Jakarta and has good facilities (albeit a little small). Total damage was around 1. 5 including a drink.

Malio.

A few days later, went to Malio again to try and see if things picked up after the holiday. Saw the scammer dancer from last time, and her friend -- they pretended not to know me LOL. Another dancer who I had some fun with remembered me too and came right over.

Side note: This might just be me, but I get a little self-conscious when I am pursuing multiple girls in the venue, and wonder how it reflects if they see me going with different girls, coming back often, etc. I know rationally that they know what we're there for, but I kind of don't want to be seen as indiscriminate either LOL. Anyone else feel this way? For example: the dancer that recognized me, messaged me later and was like "I saw you talking to another dancer when you said you were going home", which is true, I was intending to go home but got distracted. Especially if I had good chemistry with a girl that I sessioned with, I don't want to disappoint her if I pick another. Weird I know. I've had the same issue with Macau, where I have purposefully gone to a different sauna if I knew a girl I liked and have kept in touch with was working that night and I wasn't going to pick her.

I think the main concern here for me is that I still want my cake and eat it too-- don't want to sour an existing good connection and also want to try something new LOL.

Ok, back to Malio.

First checked out the M Lounge on Level 2 to the right. Busier than before, but still pretty empty. No girls in the booths on the lower level. Was quoted 900-1. 1 m for the girls at the tables, and 1. 75 m for the dancers. There were a few very nice looking girls among the dancers, but I didn't feel like they were 4 x better than the girls in the live music across the foyer.

Headed up to the club to try and find a dancer that I liked the other day. While I wasn't intending to pick a girl, I was curious and ended up talking to one of the mamasans. I think someone said earlier it's true-- each mamasan / pps has their own stable of girls and doesn't work with each other. So will need to talk to each mms if you don't see who you like. I sat down and almost immediately, the adorable bubbly dancer from before who recognized me came up and threw her arms around me. She has some baby fat around the tummy but an amazing rack and butt. Ended up buying drinks for her, and even food later for her and her friends, and it was funny how hungry these girls are-- they tore into that food like they haven't eaten in a week.

On my way out, a couple girls caught my eye and the mms saw me and asked what I wanted. I told her and she brought a lineup to me. The girl I ended up with was not who I was intending to pick, but the service was excellent. While the price is 1. 1 for this one, there were also very cute 400 k and 900 k girls. Mms confirmed that the dancers were 2. 08 m + 10-20 lady drinks. Keep in mind that the room portion of the price is taxed, so it's actually a bit more than 1. 1 or whatever. I had to stare at the bill to figure it out LOL.

Another note on rooms and pricing-- they ask if you want standard or suite room, I picked standard and it was very large and a bit nicer compared to when I picked girls from Level 2 bar for 300 k each, maybe because of the level of girl? I tried to say don't need condom for 40 k, but it didn't seem like it was an option. Do I just flat out refuse? Or can I bring my own?

Lastly, again ended up tipping 200 k, even though the girl tried to suggest 500 k LOL. She sort of covered up the first two options (200 and 300) with her thumb in a cute way, so I didn't get annoyed. I mean can't fault her for trying LOL. Even though I know tip is optional, or 100 k would do, for $8 more why not just have everyone be happy?

Where next?

So I've tried Illigals, Malio 3 x, Classic Hotel, and Emporium. Any other must-try places? It's been hard for me to set up app girls or get girls to meet me outside the venues, due to schedules and also logistics (everything is so spread out and nobody wants to travel anywhere), also maybe I've gotten fewer matches due to being of Asian descent, vs. Western-looking guys. My approach for regular girls has been to try and meet at a mall near my hotel, so we can head back after easily if things go well. I think if I meet at a farther away mall, the distance could discourage her. Thoughts on that?

Earlier there was a comment about why not get civvies or freebies if you're good looking or young. I'm no model, but I like to think I clean up pretty good, and I have my fair share of civvies /"freebies" when I travel and when dating at home. BUT, it all comes at a cost. If all I want is a fun experience and not a relationship, then sometimes a place like Malio is perfect.

Cost.

I think the word "freebie" is misleading. Nothing is free, in time or money. Or emotions. If I think about some of my terrific "freebie" experiences (some girls where it's definitely a FWB+ type relationship, no money given, but gifts, dinners, travel) these are some of the most expensive. A more low-key dinner out and then back to the room with no money exchanged still costs many hours of "courting" plus the actual date, and the cost of the date itself. A recent example in Bangkok ended up costing 3-4 k THB, about what it would cost with a FL from Thermae, and more than going to an oily, and similar to a lower end soapy. That being said, the experience is different, and it can be much more fun / rewarding if the girl actually likes being with you and it's not about the money.

Time.

Most times I don't have hours upon hours to spend chatting, arranging dates, dealing with flakes, and blocking off an evening or afternoon. It can be a lot easier to just "point and shoot" as another member has mentioned. Also it's on my schedule. I go when I want, leave when I want, and I prefer to sleep alone most times anyway (it has to be a special girl for me to want her to spend the night, so I rarely do LT).

Experience.

Depending on what I'm looking for, maybe the hunt and warm glow of a civvie is what I want, or I want to be pampered at like Emporium or a soapy.

Emotions.

Even with working girls, emotions can come into play. With a "freebie" or civvie, even more so. While mostly on the girls' part, it happens here too, I'm not a robot.

Anyway, just some thoughts on this whole thing. Ultimately, life is a game, and as long as we have fun playing it, that's what matters.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2125298]
Where next?

So I've tried Illigals, Malio 3 x, Classic Hotel, and Emporium. Any other must-try places?[/QUOTE]Since you liked Emporivm and Malio, try the following:

Golden Hands - (kota tua area) Jl. Bandengan Sel. No. 43, RT. 5/ RW. 16, Pejagalan, Penjaringan, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14450, Indonesia.

Tematik Spa - (Pluit area) - Jalan Jembatan Tiga No. 36 FC, RT. 13 / RW. 16, Penjaringan, RT. 1/ RW. 16, Penjaringan, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14440, Indonesia.

Sun City - (Mangga Besar) - Gedung Lindeteves Trade Centre Lantai 6, Jl. Hayam Wuruk No. 127, Mangga Besar, Tamansari, RT. 1/ RW. 6, RT. 1/ RW. 6, Mangga Besar, Tamansari, Kota Jakarta Barat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 11180, Indonesia.

V2 Club Lounge - (near Malio) - Jalan Kh. Hasyim Ashari Dlm No. 6, RT. 2/ RW. 8, Petojo Utara, Gambir, RT. 1/ RW. 4, Kb. Klp. , Gambir, Kota Jakarta Pusat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 10130, Indonesia.

King Cross, Sumo Spa, D'Heaven - (3 places next to each other in kelapa gading area) Komplek Kokan Permata Blok E38- 42, Jalan Boulevard Bukit Gading Raya, Kelapa Gading Barat, RT. 15/ RW. 3, RT. 15/ RW. 3, Klp. Gading Bar. , Klp. Gading, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14250, Indonesia.

Day 0:

Landed in Jakarta airport at noon, took a bluebird taxi from their stand to Pasar Baru for 180 k IDR. Reached fave hotel (Pasar Baru) and slept till late night. Fave Hotel is a budget hotel ($30) but didn't have basic things like mini-bar, wardrobe and a reliabel wifi. Other than location nothing really good about it. Tried to use Grab taxi and Bluebird taxi apps but drivers refused to come to the hotel. I guess the best way is to catch'them on the street. Went back to my room and slept again.

Tl; dr: Fave hotel is not good and First day wasted.

Day 1 part 1:

Waited till 4 PM and went to Hotel Classic. The security guard told its closed but reading the previous reports I was sure it opened at 3 PM. Went inside. Classic Hotel has 3 levels for mongering. The basement level is called Bunker. 5th level is called Terminal. Reached 3rd floor and went inside. Its dark as fuck. The general mood was gloomy. As soon as I entered a mamasan caught my hand directed me to a seat. She explained the setup, which is 330 k for a girl for an hour. Then she showed her lineup. There were six girls, none of them were stunners. I chose a girl who was smiling. This trick has worked well for me in BKK. She sat with me and we exchanged some pleasantries. Then she asked me to go to room. Once inside room the pathetic experience was ditto of Ryo from #11758. Once she removed her dress, she had sagging boobs that's such a turn-off. We showered together and she made me lie on a bed and gave a short CBJ. She started with cow girl, we switched to missionary and then switched to doggy. Once in doggy, she said, "I finish, you finish fast". I just banged her to this done with. Once I finished she ran to shower, got dressed and asked a tip. Gave her 100 k which I am sure she didn't deserve. I went back to the sitting area and ordered a beer. And started talking to another mamasan. She told 9 P. M is the best time to visit the place. She told she could show some girls, but after such pathetic experience I was not in mood.

TL; DR: I got played.

Tip for newbie: don't commit to a mamasan at beginning. Go inside, order a beer and take some time to understand the scene.

Total damage: 330 k + 100 k (tip) + 120 k (2 small bintang).

WIR: absolutely no.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2125381]she made me lie on a bed and gave a short CBJ. [/QUOTE]Covered BJ? At that point, I would have told her to go fuck herself, gave her no tip, dressed and left the room immediately to see if the mamasan could get me a different girl.

Thanks for these additional locations, Mr. Smooth. Have you noticed any particularly stacked and slim babes at any of these? I realize availability could change on any given day.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2125376]Since you liked Emporivm and Malio, try the following:

Golden Hands - (kota tua area) Jl. Bandengan Sel. No. 43, RT. 5/ RW. 16, Pejagalan, Penjaringan, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14450, Indonesia.

Tematik Spa - (Pluit area) - Jalan Jembatan Tiga No. 36 FC, RT. 13 / RW. 16, Penjaringan, RT. 1/ RW. 16, Penjaringan, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14440, Indonesia.

Sun City - (Mangga Besar) - Gedung Lindeteves Trade Centre Lantai 6, Jl. Hayam Wuruk No. 127, Mangga Besar, Tamansari, RT. 1/ RW. 6, RT. 1/ RW. 6, Mangga Besar, Tamansari, Kota Jakarta Barat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 11180, Indonesia.

V2 Club Lounge - (near Malio) - Jalan Kh. Hasyim Ashari Dlm No. 6, RT. 2/ RW. 8, Petojo Utara, Gambir, RT. 1/ RW. 4, Kb. Klp. , Gambir, Kota Jakarta Pusat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 10130, Indonesia.

King Cross, Sumo Spa, D'Heaven - (3 places next to each other in kelapa gading area) Komplek Kokan Permata Blok E38- 42, Jalan Boulevard Bukit Gading Raya, Kelapa Gading Barat, RT. 15/ RW. 3, RT. 15/ RW. 3, Klp. Gading Bar. , Klp. Gading, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14250, Indonesia.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2125462]Covered BJ? At that point, I would have told her to go fuck herself, gave her no tip, dressed and left the room immediately to see if the mamasan could get me a different girl.[/QUOTE]To Smoothy.

I always ask the mamasan if BBBJ is on the menu take your time and get a drink and talk to the girl before going up to the room, I only tip if I get good service hotel classic or hotel travel not the place if you want GFE but for 330 k don't expect too much.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=DCups;2125466]Thanks for these additional locations, Mr. Smooth. Have you noticed any particularly stacked and slim babes at any of these? I realize availability could change on any given day. [/QUOTE]There is no telling which girls are working at which places because they are constantly changing. I don't remember her number, but this one at Tematik had awesome breasts.

Cute, too. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2125579]There is no telling which girls are working at which places because they are constantly changing. I don't remember her number, but this one at Tematik had awesome breasts.[/QUOTE]

Visited Classic again, this time to check out some of the other floors. First went to the ground level club (entry 50 k). Last time, it was already closed when I arrived after 3 am. This time, quite busy, with nude dancers on stage. While some had good bodies, I didn't find any that cute. Walking around, most guys were just chilling with a drink. A few westerners at the bar.

Based on what I saw, somewhat slim pickings. Maybe most of the good ones were in the room, so might be worth hanging out and waiting a bit. A couple mms did approach, and use laser pointer things to get girls' attention LOL. On my way out I did notice a taller, slim cute one, but was already on my way out and she was heading to the girls' rest area.

Then went to "Bunker" in the basement, which is a spa. Closed at 11 pm though.

Then up the elevator to the 5th floor. This club was much busier, though about the same size as the one on 2. And also 2 x darker. So dark that even as I walked around, I could not clearly see any of the girls. Many girls were engaged with guys at tables. While I was not there to hang out, I suppose most local guys will go party in a group with friends, hang and chill with the girl before going to the room (if they go at all). Girls here will actually drink with you, not the usual lady drink set up. Mms here also use laser pointers to get the girls to come over. I picked a cute girl that even though she had a little pooch (and probably from a baby) was quite cute and slim, and we had good chemistry despite language barrier. Session was fun, even though her tits were a little bit saggy (but on the smaller side so not too bad). 100 k tip and she seemed happy.

Next time, though, I will wait longer before selecting, maybe even walk around more, or be more specific with the mms before making a selection as a few girls caught my eye on my way to pay.

And now, I am exhausted because of all the options in this city. I think it's actually easier here than in BKK with as good or better quality (I like natural, and there is more surgery in BKK), plus I feel like much less chance of post-op LB. Also nice options with ability to pay with CC means more points and less cash I have to carry around or worry about exchanging when I depart.

Your first mistake was you went too early.

Second mistake was your didn't ask the girl age.

3rd mistake was you gave her tip.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2125381]Day 0:

Landed in Jakarta airport at noon, took a bluebird taxi from their stand to Pasar Baru for 180 k IDR. Reached fave hotel (Pasar Baru) and slept till late night. Fave Hotel is a budget hotel ($30) but didn't have basic things like mini-bar, wardrobe and a reliabel wifi. Other than location nothing really good about it. Tried to use Grab taxi and Bluebird taxi apps but drivers refused to come to the hotel. I guess the best way is to catch'them on the street. Went back to my room and slept again..[/QUOTE]