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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2099275]p.s. how will you explain to your wife or partner when she sees that you buy hundreds of Euros worth of gift cards every month (especially close to an overseas trip) and yet she never gets a fucking gift card from you? 😂 Again, just remember that everything is digital, so all she has to do is look at the checking account to see where the money goes. Your wife will have roughly the same powers as the taxman: every transaction will have to be accounted for. There is no more cash, not even cash to buy a pack of chewing gum. [/QUOTE]If I had a wife as obnoxious as that, I'd divorce her. And block-chains can be made in many ways.

"Na, it's just that Sweden is an incredibly politically correct country where, and I'm truly sorry to start about this again (128521;), the left has been in power for decades. "

Was true, but not anymore. For the last few decades, left and right have been swapping back and forth like most places.

Note that there is a consensus on this among political parties in Sweden. When the right parties came to power, there was not a word about making prostitution more legal. It is not a right-left thing in Sweden.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2099341]I am not in favor of going to cashless society. But it could be imposed on us. If certain societies are already accepting cashless, then it's possible it can be implemented elsewhere.

.[/QUOTE]No one is imposing cashless. Some societies may be more cashless than others, but it is not accurate to say it was imposed on them by the governments. Those societies may be naturally predisposed to such trends. And there is no place which is rejecting cash in any purchase or transaction, unless it is an ecommerce transaction. In China in the last decade, use of Alibaba and Tencent payment systems has exploded up but that is not a government imposition, it happened because consumers preferred these ecommerce and mobile commerce transactions for a variety of reasons some of that naturally happened because ecommerce itself increased very fast in China and the increase of cashless was a consequence.

Yes, on the whole governments may prefer cashless as an easier way to conduct their business but so far none of them outlawed cash. This cash to cashless trend is for the most part being driven by consumers themselves.

I too prefer cash (especially for this aspect of my life, for obvious reasons) but broadly speaking, the move from cash to cashless is an inexorable trend. Been going on for a while. First it was using credit and debit and other cards, then mobile payments, and the likes of PayPal, Venmo and other payment mechanisms. Perhaps even Bitcoin in the future, to make Pistons happy 😃

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;2099443]Was true, but not anymore. For the last few decades, left and right have been swapping back and forth like most places.

Note that there is a consensus on this among political parties in Sweden. When the right parties came to power, there was not a word about making prostitution more legal. It is not a right-left thing in Sweden.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you noticed, but the differences between 'left' and 'right' have considerably blurred over the last 2 decades. It's basically one big Harikrishna happy family now. Why do you think so many voters are so frustrated? It doesn't matter which [u]traditional[/u] party you vote for.

Joschka Fischer (Greens) goes to the US to fill his pockets, Gerhard Schroeder goes to Russia to fill his pockets, Angela Merkel wants to outdo the Greens with her social engineering plans, the Conservative Party in the UK is just as socialist as Labour, and the US has become a bigger police state under Obama who has persecuted more whistle blowers than all presidents before him. The 'liberal' Guy Verhofstad (EU parliament) is pleading for a European army, and the 'liberal' Mark Rutte in the Netherlands is pushing through more and more dragnet surveillance than the DDR communists could have ever wished for.

It doesn't matter who's in power, the direction of the society has only gone in one direction: more government control, more taxes, more social engineering, more migration, more economic engineering, more debt, more money printing, less liberal, less libertarian, less personal freedoms. Traditional political parties are all the same dude, same shit different name. Why do you think The Establishment gets so nervous when an outsider (Trump, Italy's 5 star movement, Podemos in Spain, Wilders in Holland, Nigel Farage in the UK, Front National in France) threatens to disturb their total control of the political spectrum? To me it's clear that Western society has been drifting more and more more towards things that are traditionally leftwing: government planning and total control from cradle to grave. Fascism (collectivism, everything controlled by the state) is not something that is exclusively reserved for right wing regimes. The communist USSR was fascist in every sense of the word.

Do you honestly think that the public opinion for prostitution is favourable for either the women or the customers involved in this day and age of mass hysteria about BLM, #metoo, and 'refugees?' Our little hobby is under severe threat, be it from cashless economics or the public opinion that 'all men are sexists and are at rap!st$, and I think that the thin end of the wedge has been firmly inserted already.

Here are three shockingly fascist quotes from an alcoholic Luxembourgish 'Christian Democrat' who is currently the president of the EU Commission:

[quote]"We decide on something, leave it lying around and wait and see what happens. If no one kicks up a fuss, because most people don't understand what has been decided, we continue step by step until there is no turning back."[/quote]


[quote]"If it's a Yes, we will say 'on we go', and if it's a No we will say 'we continue'." [/quote]

and,

[quote]"Monetary policy is a serious issue. We should discuss this in secret, in the Eurogroup [...] I'm ready to be insulted as being insufficiently democratic, but I want to be serious [...] I am for secret, dark debates."[/quote]

[url]http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Juncker[/url]

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Here are three shockingly fascist quotes from an alcoholic Luxembourgish 'Christian Democrat' who is currently the president of the EU Commission

[/QUOTE]And who can forget;.

"When it becomes serious, you have to lie. ".

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2099468]No one is imposing cashless. Some societies may be more cashless than others, but it is not accurate to say it was imposed on them by the governments. Those societies may be naturally predisposed to such trends. And there is no place which is rejecting cash in any purchase or transaction[/QUOTE]In Sweden, many restaurant, bars, and cafes do not accept cash.

[URL]https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/imagining-a-cashless-world[/URL]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2099526]In Sweden, many restaurant, bars, and cafes do not accept cash.

[URL]https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/imagining-a-cashless-world[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, there are also many places in Shanghai etc where only Alipay or Tenpay are getting accepted and not cash. So, there are a few exceptions but by and large cash is the most accepted payment. Outside the developed markets and China, if you step away from the big cities, it is more or less cash for the most part.

In any case, the point is that it is not imposed by any government. In the Shanghai or Beijing restaurants and shops where only mobile wallet is accepted, that's because almost all customers have Alipay or Tenpay and hence the merchant has switched to that payment exclusively. It is not because Xi Jin Ping dictated to those merchants.

But the New Yorker article is on the mark. I think this trend to cashless is an inexorable trend, and will not be derailed. May be prostitution will be one of the few areas where cash still finds usage. The article mentions marijuana but forgot to say anything prostitution.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/16/business/china-cash-smartphone-payments.html

Too much noise in this thread now I feel. What matters is not the way they do it, but what they want to achieve. The PR apparatus does the rest, and the fools will waste their time discussing 'noise'. This can be said about everything in society. And sex is definitely one such thing. The most important topic discussed behind closed doors is population numbers. Probably 90% of every decision made revolves around that issue if you track it.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2099555]
In any case, the point is that it is not imposed by any government. In the Shanghai or Beijing restaurants and shops where only mobile wallet is accepted, that's because almost all customers have Alipay or Tenpay and hence the merchant has switched to that payment exclusively. It is not because Xi Jin Ping dictated to those merchants.
[/QUOTE]Scandinavia is much further along:
The Chamber of Commerce of Denmark has also proposed to allow most retailers (except for essential services like hospitals, post offices, etc.) to make all money transactions electronically and ban cash. Moreover, the Danish government has "set a 2030 deadline to completely do away with paper money. ".

There are other articles about senior citizens in rural areas needing to drive 120 km to find a bank that will accept a cash deposit. Places that continue to accept cash will be the exception. But yes if you want to split hairs, you are right, the government has thus far not imposed.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/cash-electronic-money-scandinavia

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2099555]May be prostitution will be one of the few areas where cash still finds usage. The article mentions marijuana but forgot to say anything prostitution.
[/QUOTE]If other countries reached even the current Swedish level of adoption, the question that needs to be asked is: will cash be stigmatized? Will young WGs want the scarlet letter that comes with cash in their purses?

WGs would most likely prefer cash. Anonymity, tax evasion, etc.

As for most countries moving in the cashless direction again, it is something that's been going on for a long time. If I look at the amount I spend per month, cashless has been greater than 90%for a long time. The big ones likes mortgage, car payments are automated bank payments for most people. So much purchasing has moved towards Amazon and other ecommerce over the years. In store, it has been card. Where do I use cash? Even for a lunch at the deli, it has been card or mobile for the last several years, taxi is uber now, etc. I still see some old people writing checks at the store, and even fewer people taking out a 50 to pay, but that's a rare sight. This is a natural trend, and yet cash has not been "banned". People here like to peddle conspiracy theories, but my shift from cash to cashless happened because I went in that direction myself and no one pushed me, and I think that's true for most consumers in developed countries.

In the Indian example you gave, they banned some notes, but also began circulating an even bigger note. Certainly no government has stopped printing paper money yet. Don't think they will it is one of the few things most governments can do with reasonable competency.

Even if societies eventually move to 100% cashless, it would be a while before German FKK girls stop taking cash. Not in my mongering lifetime. I would not fret it.

Apart from FKK world and Mainhatten and Dolce vita and Samya, can anyone list the other places with a VIP room preferably with a jaccuzi?

Sixsens, maybe Finca erotica.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2099823]Sixsens, maybe Finca erotica.[/QUOTE]Shark also.

[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2099818]Apart from FKK world and mainhatten and dolce vita and Samya, can anyone list the other places with a VIP room preferably with a jaccouzi?[/QUOTE]Oase. Sharks.

[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2099818]Apart from FKK world and mainhatten and dolce vita and Samya, can anyone list the other places with a VIP room preferably with a jaccouzi?[/QUOTE]Acapulco Gold has some rooms with Jacuzzis.