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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1380777]On one or two occasions I've sucked face with a P4P TG in a FL joint.[/QUOTE]Yes, but did you put a condom on your tongue before making out with the P4P girl? You know, safe sex?
[QUOTE=OsakaGin11;1380629]Where is Juliannas ... on the Fields Ave. strip?[/QUOTE]
Julianas is on First Street, next to the Clark Star Hotel. It's kind of across the road from Fields Ave. At night time, you should take a trike there because that area can be dangerous. It's a fun place to take a girl, they have live music, dancing and there are girls there but there is no barfine, you have to negotiate to see them after their work is over. The girls there are usually very white skinned, and sometimes quite tall as well. The customers at Julianas are almost always Asians, mostly Japanese and Koreans, but some rich Pinoys go there too. The times I went here, I was the only non-Asian in the place, but I didn't mind. There is a 500 peso minimum for each person at your table. The food there was pretty good, my fucklet and I had the Lumpia and Sisig.

A Manila fucklet of mine and two Julianas girls; they're whiter than ghosts!

[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1380663]I believe it is in Cebu. Wrong thread.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. Even found Juliana's on Google Maps. Thanks to those who corrected me.

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/zL1PD[/url]

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1381060]You are mistaken about not being able to get a prenup for imported beaver in most USA states however I would still not advise bringing one in, especially for old geezers.[/QUOTE]Slow down now Tito. When you bring those girls in you have to be responsible for them for a certain amount of time. I am quite sure of that. And I don't think a prenup can get you out of that responsibility that the government makes you voluntarily bestow upon yourself. Therefore both of you guys may be correct. You may be able to get a prenup to cover some things, but there may be other things that you are not allowed to include.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1381097]Slow down now Tito. When you bring those girls in you have to be responsible for them for a certain amount of time. I am quite sure of that. And I don't think a prenup can get you out of that responsibility that the government makes you voluntarily bestow upon yourself. Therefore both of you guys may be correct. You may be able to get a prenup to cover some things, but there may be other things that you are not allowed to include.[/QUOTE]A well written prenup will protect your assets going into the marriage. Of course if you breed with the piglet you will be paying child support in addition to spousal support. Best solution is not to import the beaver at all.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1381097]Slow down now Tito. When you bring those girls in you have to be responsible for them for a certain amount of time. I am quite sure of that. And I don't think a prenup can get you out of that responsibility that the government makes you voluntarily bestow upon yourself. Therefore both of you guys may be correct. You may be able to get a prenup to cover some things, but there may be other things that you are not allowed to include.[/QUOTE]I imported a 21 yo girl about 18 months ago and decided it was worth the gambit since I would have to spend most of my time in the USA raising my last home bound high school age son. My situation likely will not apply to most here, so I do not post this as a recommended COA for others, but just how it can be done. I was 50 when I brought her here, I'm still in decent shape, and able to give here some sexual gratification as well.

The key for me was identifying not just a curvaceous hard bodied beauty, but one who was fundamentally conservative at her core, a good personality match and very amenable to basic principles e. G. Submission, loyalty etc. I married her about 9 months ago in part to reduce costs for schooling but also to get her on her own path to citizenship.

You can pre nup an "import" and it will be valid as long as it's documented she is "legally informed" which means she should have her own attorney (which you can basically set up for her and provide a small retainer, as low as $100 USD for "her attorney" to read the pre-nup and sign off on). Both party attorneys and lovers will sign off and the document will be legit.

The conditions of support that you can be held liable for by the US Govt in the event you split and she goes on welfare or public support is not affected; you can still be held liable for any support she receives from the Govt if she is not a US citizen OR has not worked 8 or 10 quarters of full time employment. Either one of those conditions met: you are off the hook.

Couple more comments: These girls will get a lot of attention. If she is not solid in her moral foundation, you'll probably lose her. It also helps, LOL, if you take very good care of her. We live in very comfortable surrounds. I got her a license and a new car (ownership is still mine) and am very gradually increasing her equity holdings in an investment account I started for her. She's the type of girl more interested in sending money back home to help family than spending it on herself. The vehicle is great for her as she'd never drove before coming to the USA and she can drive herself to school, visit friends etc.

The Govt liability is a BIG concern; I do not think this girl is the type to want to be on the Govt dole, but we plan to apply for citizenship in about 2 years. It might be four years or so, as the customary wait time between conditional residency (green card) and citizenship is 5 years. I'm retired military and though I thought only active duty military dependents / spouses could get citizenship on fast track (3 years) , the mid level managment Dept Homeland Security bureaucrat interviewer approving her green card said retirees can apply as well for their dependents at 3 years.

The first year or several months is the key period. The F-1 (study) visa / I-20 is good for 12 months. During that time, you can pull out at any time and you are not liable for any support. The girl either gets funding from some other source to remain in school or is required to go home, per the DHS. If you feel great about her, then you might decide to do what I did. It's a gamble but this girl is great for me, did everything right and I decided to just marry her. On a cost basis, it's been a good investment. I usually tap her a couple times a day, ace'd her once last month and set my own personal best with her a few weeks after arrival with 8 shots in a 24 hour period. TMI? Yeah, probably, but what I'm getting at is the cost basis for having a very fine piece of live-in GFE that I don't have to provide exhorbitant live-in support payments, nor deal with all the starlet / princess persona crap.

My long term plan is to keep this girl hopefully forever. Her upbringing and cultural / religious mores condone polygamy and so does she. She understands this will be a wash-rinse-repeat processs in the future, with the caveat I will be happy to take care of her, forever, as long as the principles of our relationship remain intact. All a very big gamble so before you even consider something like this, consider whether or not it makes sense, IF you can find what you THINK is "the" right girl and, most importantly, do you feel lucky.

Edit: Offspring will indeed nullify conditions of the pre-nup. I'm shooting blanks these days but that is a valid point you need to consider.

I am very happy for people like Mr Benetar. Is nice when things work out.

But I am still at a loss why so many mongering types end up marrying or having steady gfs. Particularly when they come from a pro or semi-pro environment (not that Mr B's does).

And do not get me wrong. It has crossed my mind: once with this absolute honey from Madagascar and another with a Cambodian hottie.

A couple of stories to illustrate my reservations:

1- A monger I partied with in Colombia had a steady gf there whom he visited 5-6 times a year and spend lots of time with, naturally he also did a bit of playing on the side but only occasionally. He decided to make her his steady and contemplated something more long term. Long story short, some reservations started creeping after his next to last trip. Being late often, making hard to swallow excuses, etc. Me and some of my local pussy raised our eyebrows at some of the tales she told but my buddy gave her the benefit of the doubt after so much quality time together. I am not sure if she felt that she was about to be found out but in his last trip she drugged him and stole the laptop, camera and some cash. Gone.

2- A very tasty morsel with huge cans I found in Mombasa recently got married to some bloke from Denmark, I was amusing myself at looking at her wedding pics in FB. Anyways, I boned this chick the day I met her. Her sister wanted to order her to leave me two days after meeting her so that she could take me. Then huge cans wanted me to meet her family 5 days after meeting me. 7 days later was asking when were we going to marry etc. Not two months after I left Kenya I found out that she was engaged to her husband to be and now she is in Denmark married to this guy. Was she in love with me? Maybe with the idea of leaving Kenya yes. Is she in love with the danish dude? Perhaps. But I would not bet cash on it.

3- An investment guy from San Diego used to come over to our local coffee house and brag about this hottie brazilians he used to bag. Finally met one that rock his boat enough and brought her in to live in SD with him and married her. Had her family manage his properties in Brazil and all. Good times. 9 months or so later after getting married, he tells us how he is getting a divorce. Apparently she had met some other local guy while working, for fun, as a waitress.

Anyways, buyer beware. I think is great that it works for some. But it sure as heck does not work for many. Mr Benatar is correct in advising lots of research and looking for the right character and upbringing. Is quite iffy if you ask me and something I would only dabble with if I were to be there in site. And sure as hell would thinks twice or thrice before compromising my financial assets. Especially nowadays.

Concarne

I think a lot depends on where you bring the girl when you get back to the states. If its a city which has a high population of filippino's as in Cali or NY. The chances of a good marriage is very low. As she will soon be advised by other pinays as to the ways and norms of any other AW.

Sure Mr PB is happy right now. It hasn't been yet 2 yrs. Wait til she has REALLY become familiar with America. She is only 21 or 22 yrs old. Write us again when you are 58 and she is 28. And has graduated from school. Knows her way around. Has been approached by countless younger SUCCESSFUL men. Who can offer the same, if not more. Plus what all WOMEN eventually want. A FAMILY. Which you say you CAN'T provide.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade but I'd say its almost inevitable. No matter what she says NOW. How many PEOPLE period take life seriously and the long term outlook in their early 20's. Sure she is cool with no family NOW, wait after a few years the reality of NO KIDS sets in. And she realizes she will be with a 70/80 yr old guy with no family. And she is still fertile and fine. And unless you can REALLY provide SOME SERIOUS millionaire type surroundings. If she is nice looking. She will find young guys who can provide the same. Once you hit your mid 60's and she is only in her 30's. Paaalleeessee. Really

And you are thinking she is going to put up with you screwing around. Wash-rinse-repeat. And now has been americanized. With a permanent green card. GOOD LUCK.

I have seen countless guys in their 40's and above bring home pinays from abroad. L. A and San Diego is full of them. Most Divorce about the 3 to 4 yr time frame once they have the lay of the land. The permanent Green card and the means / know how to get a job. And especially THOSE who did not have KIDS. Which at least give them added responsibility and an expense to consider when leaving. Without that. Its a no brainer.

But I wish the best for you. But I think you are in for a rude awakening one day.

Peace out

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1381138]buyer beware. I think is great that it works for some. But it sure as heck does not work for many. Mr Benatar is correct in advising lots of research and looking for the right character and upbringing. Is quite iffy if you ask me and something I would only dabble with if I were to be there in site. And sure as hell would thinks twice or thrice before compromising my financial assets. Especially nowadays.

Concarne[/QUOTE]Great illustrative examples Concarne. Buyer Beware a certitude; you bought it, you own it. A few caveats I would offer:

I would NEVER recommend a K1 visa or marriage for import. I used an F1 so I would have 12 months of probationary period, as I saw fit, where I could jettison and vacate the arrangement altogether. This requires resources (and a good measure of work too, for anyone who's arranged a visa from a 3rd world country).

ANY person is going to change, immersed into the developed world. The probationary period for me (F1) was pivotal for close scrutiny and ensuring the adaptation made was acceptable for my terms. She molds readily or she goes home. Keep her happy at the same time and if she continues to heel than the prognosis is cautiously optimistic.

Even now, only 18 months or so into the relationship, I'm not going to forecast success. I'm hoping for it of course, but I constantly re evaluate what keeps her content without spoiling her and more importantly what will keep me happy as well. I have limits every step of the way in the form of withheld rewards. This is something that most mongerers I think do not care to do as their agenda might be different or have resources for (again, an F1 study visa or some other temperizing measure was essential for my purposes and requires a fair amount of finances and planning). In the overwhelming majority, as you suggest, I think importing a "wife" is a setup for failure.

Best, pb

Is there any current info on Angeles City in THE Angeles City Forum? WTF*$at$& (#$$! $atAm I missing something here? Is this forum the place where you talk about everything but Angeles City?

[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1381060]You are mistaken about not being able to get a prenup for imported beaver in most USA states however I would still not advise bringing one in, especially for old geezers.[/QUOTE]I was looking into this after my first trip to the FSU and the answer was njet for my state. Others may be different but my state treats then as disadvantaged and you're responsible for her. I've worked hard to be financially stable. Not interested in taking a chance on halving that because my dick thinks it's a good idea. If it weren't for that I woud consider it. On the other hand my ability to be faithful to one woman is at best suspect. And te old story "hell hat no fury like a woman scorned" I'm sure applies to our little pinay lovelies. '

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1381123]I imported a 21 yo girl about 18 months ago and decided it was worth the gambit since I would have to spend most of my time in the USA raising my last home bound high school age son. My situation likely will not apply to most here, so I do not post this as a recommended COA for others, but just how it can be done. I was 50 when I brought her here, I'm still in decent shape, and able to give here some sexual gratification as well.

My long term plan is to keep this girl hopefully forever. Her upbringing and cultural / religious mores condone polygamy and so does she. She understands this will be a wash-rinse-repeat processs in the future, with the caveat I will be happy to take care of her, forever, as long as the principles of our relationship remain intact. All a very big gamble so before you even consider something like this, consider whether or not it makes sense, IF you can find what you THINK is "the" right girl and, most importantly, do you feel lucky.

Edit: Offspring will indeed nullify conditions of the pre-nup. I'm shooting blanks these days but that is a valid point you need to consider.[/QUOTE]I'm glad it's working out for you and I hope it continues to. Seems like you have the basis covered and a good game plan. I've been in the woman racket for many years and divorced for 9, I got to tell ya I've considered it a number of times. And I've dated (I use that word loosely) some stunner 20 somethings at home for long periods of time. With them it was a mix of what they thought was love. One progressed as far as a diamond. I've got a 21 year old Indian hottie right now that is open and understanding.

It's just that I have seen the May December import business go wrong too often. We all want that 19 year old that will never age. But she will. She will want to have kids, it's their nature. I'm 56 this year. A teenager at any age is scary, one at 70 is horrifying. The other problem I see is the cultural thing. What is there in common? And once she assimilates to our screwed up culture there are too many distractions. She will want to do the thing that people her age do. I got to tell ya, I'm way passed my clubbing days. And I'm a light weight when it comes to staying out late. The fact that I have a business to run with huge responsibility might have something to do with it. In Manila I was replying to a message from an online dati g service. Guy I was with says "why would you want to date 40-50 year old women when you regularly f*k 20 year olds?" I have never met a 20 year old with the breadth of knowledge and experience where she could hold a decent conversation through dinner. I live a very varied life, have interests and hobbies all over the place. What does she know about the renaissance, does she know Picasso, Ruebens, what about world history, her political beliefs are non existant, what do you talk about? That's at dinner. What about 24/7 365?

I can only be playful and silly for so long, I have an intelectual, serious side that needs to be sated. I just don't think a 20 year old import could do it. The last girl I had on the payroll was a early 20's Chinese HOTTIE. We saw each other for about 2 years. After a year and a half she got a great job offer in DC and she wanted to stay with me. Well I couldn't be responsible for that life changing decision knowing how I am. SO I let her go. She commuted over 6 months and towards the end of the relationship I was a torn man. I couldn't wait for her to get here but by Sunday morning I couldn't wait for her to leave. My cock is a pretty powerful force in shaping my life and making me make wrong decisions. .

Please don't think I'm down on you, I get it. If I thought I could pull it off I would in a heartbeat. I would probably work real hard at overcoming some of our differences. I think the trick would be to keep her engaged in all aspects. Educate her and keep her life interesting. Don't give her a lot of time to think about her situation, keep that thinking on other things. I really hope it works for you.

I will tell you one last story. I got a massage from a girl in AC. Real cutie and very pleasant. I usually don't like to talk during a massage but she was very interesting. She told a story about a friend that had gotten married to a guy from my home town. And as luck would have it she called during one of my massages. I talked to the guy and he was so happy to have landed this 19 year old, I think he was late 40s. He was a real nice guy and we ill probably meet on my return, unless he reads this. I ask a lot of questions, always have, probably would have been a good cop. Well at the end of the day the 19 year old is cold in the Midwest, she is going to school but is stuck in the house most of the time and is already bored. No friends, or people with similar interests. This is after 6 months. It's not going to get better.

Anyway, I'm rambling. I really wish you luck and if it does work out ask your girl if she's got a twin.

Fabulous posts Sir Lancelot.

For anyone reading the offerings from 2012 in this forum, you should find that it reads like a newbies guide to Angeles City.

I doubt you can find anything like it anywhere else.

The contributions to this thread have been most excellent. Nice work, guys.

Good karma for you. The PI girls will be the beneficiaries.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1325574]A young girl with braces on her teeth sat next to me and a waitress bullied me in to buying her a drink (150 pesos). She gulped it down quickly before excusing herself and rushing to sit with a man on the other side of the bar who was splashing his cash. She hadn't even told me her name. I wasn't impressed and told the waitress so. 'She finish drink sir' she said but I pointed out that when I buy a girl a drink, I expect them to sit with me for more than two minutes![/QUOTE]With this kind of crap occurring, I can sympathize more with the Koreans who come in, look at the girls, and leave without buying anything.

I wonder if some punters might find a different approach more to their liking. Such as being seated in the bar & when prompted to buy a drink for themselves or anyone else, saying they aren't interested in that & are only there because they'd like to BF a lady.

The customer could additionally specify other criteria at this time, such as, for examples, they don't want a girl on her period or a virgin or for short time or long time, etc.

Could a game plan like this work?

This would be more economical than spending up to 300 Pesos for LDs as you peruse various venues each evening. I could see a guy easily wasting 10 or 20 LDs in one evening following that procedure, which would be from about 70 to 140 USD.

Comments?

As some of you will remeber I was going to do it two years ago. Well I will do it again.

So, this is in the Pete theme, Well I am 57, have a 20 year old and a 18 year old. Had vasectomy, And this knew K1 visa girl. Is 20 with high school degree. Has had comtract at SM, Nisson, and now SM again. Never had a hot shower. Now I met this one at 18 and tagged her friend. Met her with another GF and we all went to movie. Met her sister a clerk at sm also with pern. Contract. She has never done the date sites. But is not virgin gave it up at 16.

I have higher hope on K1, the last one got as far as her visa sitting at the embassy, she had money to make it to manila, st lukes, visa at bpi bank, she had 120, 000 in her pocket. Had bought mom a 175, 000 multi cab. So that was to take care of mom. She said she wanted to buy corrolla for 120, 000 and that way I would have a car when I was there. Well I sent the cancelation letter and stopped it. So it does work as planned. Rather than marry there and be stuck.

Then they have to get here. And 90 days to marry, in those 90 days you can learn a lot. Like signing pre nup. And other stuff. Doubt I will be able to do it 8 times in one day. But if lucky I will die trying. Haha.

I had read the K1 process was the government trying to give the test of time. And it did work that way for me. So I am happy with it. Now doing differnet things, yes I go to sleep at 10, Still need to work to pay for college on those two girls. The issue of the baby, well I know it is coming somewhere around 30. That is ten years from now. I will be 67 and will deal with it then. I will also set up trust for kids. But will make it if she stays till death she will get her fair share. Of course that would encourage her to see me dead. But if I die trying to get number 7 I can live with it.

I have to work, such is life. For 5 years. I do not want to wait till I have ED to travel and smell the roses. I hope it works. I hope I have a partner taking care of me. A lover who takes care of me. A cook who cooks for me and my diabeites, If I get that then I am happy. Do I think it will cost me. Oh sure it will, but them plane rides run me 1, 500. 00 two weeks cost me 2, 500. 00 and I got tired of mindless sex in Bankok last time there. Cost 4K two to three times a year. I think with new car payment, Cooking school, and some vocational program it will cost the same. And I do love her. But that has come and gone in my life starting in 6th grade so I am prepared.

Hey Red are you hitting the bottle again man?

[QUOTE=Redman69; 1381510]As some of you will remeber I was going to do it two years ago. Well I will do it again.

So, this is in the Pete theme, Well I am 57, have a 20 year old and a 18 year old. Had vasectomy, And this knew K1 visa girl. Is 20 with high school degree. Has had comtract at SM, Nisson, and now SM again. Never had a hot shower. Now I met this one at 18 and tagged her friend. Met her with another GF and we all went to movie. Met her sister a clerk at sm also with pern. Contract. She has never done the date sites. But is not virgin gave it up at 16.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1381532]Hey Red are you hitting the bottle again man?[/QUOTE]Man, if you are going to boink your grand daughter then hit it and quit it. Why are you trying to wife them up? I'm 40 and I had enough of 20 year olds when I was in high school and college. When I'm 57 they will probably seems much less desirable to me. I totally agree with FN,

[QUOTE=FruitNinja]I have never met a 20 year old with the breadth of knowledge and experience where she could hold a decent conversation through dinner. I live a very varied life, have interests and hobbies all over the place. What does she know about the renaissance, does she know Picasso, Ruebens, what about world history, her political beliefs are non existant, what do you talk about? That's at dinner. What about 24/7 365?[/QUOTE]That giggling and goo-goo eyes back and forth shit gets old with me after about 5 minutes.