Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1770995]I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Actually Dan, she is not as good looking as in her profile pics. She is cute enough facially and has a banging, tight body (no babies) but her photos have obviously been 'improved'. But you cannot photoshop great attitude and application both of which she has in abundance.

I agree with your point about the extra charge for A+. In most other places that I've punted, anal attracts a premium charge. In UK for example, you would be charged extra anything from £20 - £100 for a go at a WG's ass with the median figure being about £50. So its dirt cheap here in comparison. Few girls truly enjoy a big cock up their shitter, despite what some guys maintain. It can cause discomfort and outright pain. Plus it requires some prior preparation by the girl if you want to avoid the disgusting phenomena known as brown hatting on withdrawal!

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1770995]I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/[/URL]

I'm surprised that a good-looking lady like Ja is now doing A+ with guys. This is one positive change in Thailand now compared to before. More massage ladies are now doing A+ with their guys. You can now actually ask a good-looking massage lady to do A+ with you and not feel embarrassed about it.

But this increasing popularity of A+ among massage ladies is probably no accident. That 500B surcharge for A+ probably has a lot to do with it. Because the lady has a financial incentive to do A+ with her guys and become good at it too. When the hot lady gets paid extra for A+, then she is liable to invite you for some A+ with her, rather than be reluctant about it and perhaps say 'No' to you.

When you ask the lady to do some A+ with you for free, then this makes you feel like a beggar. It's an embarrassing thing to do. Because you are asking her for an extra favor, without doing anything extra for her. But when you know that the lady gets paid extra for it, and she might even want to do it with you, then this makes you feel free to go on an ass-banging spree.

I never would've thought before of going A+ on every hot lass at a massage place like Bamboo. But now this might be the thing to do. Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.

If you like A+, then it makes a lot of sense to pay the ladies extra for it, even when the lady does it routinely, and she is unlikely to say 'No' to you. Because by rewarding her, you make an example out of her for other ladies to follow. Your A+ lady has many friends, and she probably boasts to them about making extra money by doing A+. It's an incentive for other ladies to start doing A+ too.[/QUOTE]I really really strongly disagree with everything you wrote.

[QUOTE=CunningStunt;1771050]I agree with your point about the extra charge for A+. In most other places that I've punted, anal attracts a premium charge. In UK for example, you would be charged extra anything from 20 - 100 GBP for a go at a WG's ass with the median figure being about 50GBP.[/QUOTE]That's exactly why I think it is a bad idea to pay extra for A+. Not that I am interested in anal sex, but it might just give the girls the idea that there are many extras they can charge separately. Think of CIM, COF, BBBJ or even BJ. In Europe most pros charge extra for all this. Hell, I once even had to pay extra to get her to take off all her clothes. Surely we don't want that to happen in LOS?

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1770995]I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/[/URL]

I'm surprised that a good-looking lady like Ja is now doing A+ with guys. This is one positive change in Thailand now compared to before. More massage ladies are now doing A+ with their guys. You can now actually ask a good-looking massage lady to do A+ with you and not feel embarrassed about it.

But this increasing popularity of A+ among massage ladies is probably no accident. That 500B surcharge for A+ probably has a lot to do with it. Because the lady has a financial incentive to do A+ with her guys and become good at it too. When the hot lady gets paid extra for A+, then she is liable to invite you for some A+ with her, rather than be reluctant about it and perhaps say 'No' to you.

When you ask the lady to do some A+ with you for free, then this makes you feel like a beggar. It's an embarrassing thing to do. Because you are asking her for an extra favor, without doing anything extra for her. But when you know that the lady gets paid extra for it, and she might even want to do it with you, then this makes you feel free to go on an ass-banging spree.

I never would've thought before of going A+ on every hot lass at a massage place like Bamboo. But now this might be the thing to do. Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.

If you like A+, then it makes a lot of sense to pay the ladies extra for it, even when the lady does it routinely, and she is unlikely to say 'No' to you. Because by rewarding her, you make an example out of her for other ladies to follow. Your A+ lady has many friends, and she probably boasts to them about making extra money by doing A+. It's an incentive for other ladies to start doing A+ too.[/QUOTE]Disagree with you 100% here Dan. It simply opens the door for up-charges on everything.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1771090]That's exactly why I think it is a bad idea to pay extra for A+. Not that I am interested in anal sex, but it might just give the girls the idea that there are many extras they can charge separately. Think of CIM, COF, BBBJ or even BJ. In Europe most pros charge extra for all this. Hell, I once even had to pay extra to get her to take off all her clothes. Surely we don't want that to happen in LOS?[/QUOTE]Here here. That is why the Baron's Tulip model has been so great. One price; all girls do everything. I have no issues if gals don't want to do A+, up to them. But charging extra is a slippery slope that we don't want to head down.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1770995]Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.
[/QUOTE]So you are saying that something that in the lady's mind normally would be considered perverted, somehow becomes normal because not only does the man want it, but he wants it so bad he is willing to pay extra for it? You really believe this?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1771230]Here here. That is why the Baron's Tulip model has been so great. One price; all girls do everything. I have no issues if gals don't want to do A+, up to them. But charging extra is a slippery slope that we don't want to head down.[/QUOTE]However most shops are moving toward one price for all in, and that price varies by duration of session and whether its Oily or Gel, etc. There is no way to get a cheaper session for HJ or BJ only for all-in price shops. I believe all shops will move to all-in price eventually. This means girl's share of 1400 will gradually increase upward over time as overall price rises occur.

Those who want BJ only will be forced to go to BJ shop or accept paying more for it.

If some shops do not go to all-in price, may increase entry fees gradually, and start giving the girl part of entry fee, so she could make more than 1500 for sex part. I am just speculating, but clearly prices cannot remain fixed forever. Super market bills keep rising, rent keeps rising, quality of the PSE shop girls probably goes down. We see some places offering A+ for extra fee. Since not every girl is forced to provide it to get customers, extra incentive made be needed to make them consider doing it. Some girls clearly don't want to give it, even to attract extra customers.

I think prices have to rise, one way or another. The discrepancy between what the Oily girls make for a ST and what bargirls make for less work is getting wider. Bargirls realistically have more choice of customer as well. Being an Oily girl gets less and less attractive, especially for pretty girls. Are any girls in PSE shops making big money? I don't know about this. Not attending regularly enough.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1770995]I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Not stunning for me. Face a bit too round and tits a bit too round too. LOL I would not go specially looking for her, but if she is for your taste, great. A+ certainly no great surprise.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1770902]Never really was preoccupied with "stunners" but I like a gal who is easy on the eyes. A marginal face and a rocking body does it for me any day. Whereas I will pass on a marginal body and great face. Sadly I don't really see gals with marginal faces and great bodies at the PSE oilies much anymore.

To my eyes there were some amazing lookers at the oilies years back. Mango had Ann, Cherry, Mook, and to a lesser extent Apple and Bo. SW had a few as well. Tulip had some ok gals. Nestle in her prime. Nong was not bad either. Of course every dude has a different idea of what a stunner is. When you posted the pics of the gal from LaBelle I much preferred her look in the later pics. I like my gals very "slutty" looking. I have no issue with a nose job if its done well and think that good sillies do nothing but enhance a figure. I prefer gals well made up as opposed to "natural. " I like the gal next door look, that is if I live next door to a brothel.[/QUOTE]I can compromise somewhat on either face or body, but never on both. Something needs to be well above average, and not too many things below average.

Angie at Cherry, I mentioned, had 10 out of 10 body but face was only an 8 (still very good). However I don't go as low as really marginal faces. Cherry at Mango had a great body maybe close to a 9, but face was only a 7 at best. Not really an amazing looker as such, but good enough for me. For face, Cat was far cuter but body a little bit puffy. When Cat first worked at Mango, she was the prettiest face there by a considerable margin and trimmer at that time, and I did not session with any others. I guess Cherry arrived somewhat later. I have a photo of Cherry somewhere and face is above average by not so much. Bo was fairly ordinary looking but at least no fat. Sillies wrecked it.

When I first met Nestle at Tulip, around 2006 or 2007, her face looked too adjusted which put me off. Her looks appeared to improve greatly years later, when she had retired. Rumours were she had some face enhancement removed, but maybe bulldust since I don't know any details or really understand. I never actually had a session with her.

I liked June at SW, since while not a stunner, she was well above average in all categories, face, body, and performance. In time became A+, although not originally. Very reliable. I would probably rate her higher or at least equal to Cherry even though tits were smaller.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1771435]I can compromise somewhat on either face or body, but never on both. Something needs to be well above average, and not too many things below average.

Angie at Cherry, I mentioned, had 10 out of 10 body but face was only an 8 (still very good). However I don't go as low as really marginal faces. Cherry at Mango had a great body maybe close to a 9, but face was only a 7 at best. Not really an amazing looker as such, but good enough for me. For face, Cat was far cuter but body a little bit puffy. When Cat first worked at Mango, she was the prettiest face there by a considerable margin and trimmer at that time, and I did not session with any others. I guess Cherry arrived somewhat later. I have a photo of Cherry somewhere and face is above average by not so much. Bo was fairly ordinary looking but at least no fat. Sillies wrecked it.

When I first met Nestle at Tulip, around 2006 or 2007, her face looked too adjusted which put me off. Her looks appeared to improve greatly years later, when she had retired. Rumours were she had some face enhancement removed, but maybe bulldust since I don't know any details or really understand. I never actually had a session with her.

I liked June at SW, since while not a stunner, she was well above average in all categories, face, body, and performance. In time became A+, although not originally. Very reliable. I would probably rate her higher or at least equal to Cherry even though tits were smaller.[/QUOTE]Personally I found Cherry at SW to be more attractive than June when it came their faces. Body wise and performance wise Cherry gets the nod as well. June was cute though and had an amazing body despite having one child. Always enthusiastic and seemed to enjoy the act, but found her BJ to be a bit toothy at times.

[QUOTE=Dan7373;1770995]I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.

[URL]http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/[/URL]

I'm surprised that a good-looking lady like Ja is now doing A+ with guys. This is one positive change in Thailand now compared to before. More massage ladies are now doing A+ with their guys. You can now actually ask a good-looking massage lady to do A+ with you and not feel embarrassed about it.

But this increasing popularity of A+ among massage ladies is probably no accident. That 500B surcharge for A+ probably has a lot to do with it. Because the lady has a financial incentive to do A+ with her guys and become good at it too. When the hot lady gets paid extra for A+, then she is liable to invite you for some A+ with her, rather than be reluctant about it and perhaps say 'No' to you.

When you ask the lady to do some A+ with you for free, then this makes you feel like a beggar. It's an embarrassing thing to do. Because you are asking her for an extra favor, without doing anything extra for her. But when you know that the lady gets paid extra for it, and she might even want to do it with you, then this makes you feel free to go on an ass-banging spree.

I never would've thought before of going A+ on every hot lass at a massage place like Bamboo. But now this might be the thing to do. Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.

If you like A+, then it makes a lot of sense to pay the ladies extra for it, even when the lady does it routinely, and she is unlikely to say 'No' to you. Because by rewarding her, you make an example out of her for other ladies to follow. Your A+ lady has many friends, and she probably boasts to them about making extra money by doing A+. It's an incentive for other ladies to start doing A+ too.[/QUOTE]If Bamboo is to be similar to its originators like tulip, mango SW etc, the upcharge on anal etc has to go. Period.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1771428]... tits a bit too round too. [/QUOTE]Hahaha...sorry mate, had to laugh at this statement. So you go for girls with square tits do you, Syz? Or maybe triangular boobs? The mind boggles! Think that I'll stick with good old fashioned round knockers.

Hi Guys, I need your help to refresh my memory.

At the start of my yearly stay in BKK in January, I did some scouting on the MPs in Soi33.

On the lot where Hotel S33 is (former Peep Inn, where Akane used to be), on the RHS as you enter from the Soi, there is a Japanese style MP.

I think you have to go up one stairs, but I am not sure any more.

It seemed very worthwhile visiting, but my steady TGFs kept me permanently exhausted, so I never made it and now I cannot remember the name of the MP.

Can anyone help me withe name / website of the place? Any personal experience would also be most welcome.

Thanks.

DS.

I have been patronizing the Ratchada soapies a lot lately. I have pretty good intel on them. I will start with the most reviewed / recommend as I feel they are not that good anymore and this should be brought up since they are too often (incorrectly) recommended on highly trafficked blogs.

Nataree: I go here a lot. I obviously like the place. In fact I do like the place. I can recommend it IF you want a really good looking younger Asian woman (not the fake gogo hustler type). Reluctantly, I can recommend Nataree. Especially because they have so many women working, and many of them are good looking. You're find your type most likely. They have a good supply line basically. However, the performance is really drab. Only about 25% give me BBBJ and that's probably just because I frequent the place fairly often. If they do perform BBBJ, it's always like. Bad. Many times, sex is about getting me off so they can get back down-stairs. They are obviously servicing a lot of customers and this place has kind of a fast food business practice. I go here sometimes on weekdays and I must admit, the selection is actually pretty underwhelming. The better looking ones only seem to work on the busy nights. Also, lots of Jap tourist buses quickly fill this place up.

Prices: 2600 - 3200. I almost always pay 2600 because any more and the girl is probably just not my type (pale / tiny /18). Definitely do not get any of the models at Nataree. They are "near virgins," and are really only appealing to the foreign Asian clientele.

Bottom line: Yeah go to Nataree and see for yourself. There is something about the women there that seems unmatched by their competition. But only go on a busy day like Friday / Saturday and BEFORE 9 pm. Definitely avoid Monday / Tuesday / Wed. Only the bland / fatter ones working then. It's just like any place but with high prices and low quality if you don't go on the busy night. But get there before the jap tourist vans fill it up.

Poseidon: Model lounge. Looked more like a retire lounge for hookers. I visited at 5 PM and it was really 'meh'. No boner material, I think the only thing these women excel at is their education level. It seems like not being from a farm is an important distinction for Thai's with money to through around. Like a caste thing I recon. Being a 100% superficial person, I would say the model lounge is crap. Went to the normal fish bowl. High prices for falang (500 baht more, so it's 2700 and 3200). Service is quite good here. I saw I lady I liked and saw her a few more times. Sadly, I think I kept picking her because all the other women were so bad looking. Also, she wasn't like hot. She was 30+ but really cool and I liked her.

Bottom line: Really bad selection. Even if there are many women and you go at a prime time, so many of them are below average looking.

Colonze 2: Holy crap, this place is awesome. 1800 for women who are almost on par in looks with the 2600 sideliners from Nataree. And honestly, not a bad selection either. Lots of women here. As for the model lounge, they only cost 2600 - 3200 baht when I was there. Many of them looked kind of okay. Not much boner material. Seemed like they were higher class than anything else because the women down stairs looked quite good, and these women didn't seem much better. There was also only about 10. I found only 1 I liked, and she was really nice looking. And great, great performer all-around, no questions asked, high enthusiasm throughout (something Nataree almost never provides, except their fat chicks which I guess aren't picked as often and therefore aren't as tired). Been here 2 times, both times BBBK no questions asked, very accommodating women. I recon they aren't high mileage per day in terms of clientele so that helps.

Bottom line: By walking for 10 minutes from Nataree, which is sort of a Jap trap, you can get 2 x better service at almost half the price.

Alaina: Another winner in my book. Only went once, but it's really great place. The building is new, so it's not run down like many of these places. The women seem a bit older than those who work at nataree, but I think it's the same women because both are owned by the same person. Prices are good, only 2300 baht. I think the price is helped since they aren't unloading van loads of drunk japs. Mamasan was very accommodating, the girl I picked was great and really took her time.

Copa Cabana: I went only once, and it was the day before a 4 day Thai holiday / weekend so maybe it was an off day. Not a lot of women. I picked a model for 5500. She wasn't my type after all, once the clothes came off. I mean she wasn't ugly, she was a model. I could see her being on TV or something (except that her nose surgery didn't really turn out that perfect.). Overall, not impressed with their low selection. The women here seemed to be more pale than beautiful. I was expecting models, I mostly saw above average by Thai standards. However, I'm more into busty / darker Thai's so my word probably isn't that helpful about this place. I wouldn't rule it out.

Meree: This place is really good IMO. Probably my second personal favorite. Prices are kind of low, about 2400 baht. The women are in the 24-25 range, so more of my type. A lot of really good looking women in that they aren't knockouts, but they are so far above average in looks. Kind of like "that fairly hot chick on the subway" look. Only drawback is the distance to get here. One of my favs. Great attitude by the staff and usually the women working there.

Avita / Evita: Usually I can't find anything here I like, so few women are in the fishbowl since most are booked. Really low prices, like 1800-2200 baht. Great service the one time I went (BBBJ in bath). It's next to Meree so worth stopping by if you can speak Thai.

Ceasars: I used to really favor this place, probably #1 for me a year ago. I stepped in after a year hiatus. I was really unimpressed with their lineup. Most of the women had nose surgery and were simply not great looking. I'll have to stop by again later and see.

Bottom Line: I hope others can prove me wrong, but I'm going to say avoid now. They used to be a great place to get super hot models for 4200 baht (instead of 5500 baht at The Lord). I think they are more of a tourist destination / trap now.

Emmanuelle: I hate this place. Can't stand the papasan pressuring for tips / not handing me my change back. Pressured to by drinks. Really poor selection compared to 2 years ago. The girl I picked a few months ago wouldn't stfu about tipping her 1 k baht for a second baht. She simply was not letting it go. Place seems to really be suffering due to Nataree.

Cupidy: This place is a meth lounge. Super shady and I have heard some pretty scamming / bad reviews. I went once and got 2 women, one of them was clearly coked up. She demanded that I tip her because she needed money for food (she was rather fat).

Will never check out (I've only heard bad reviews): Amsterdam, Hi-class.

Haven't checked out yet: The Lord, Utopia, La Belle. These are the high end places. I haven't really had the model / high-end itch much lately.

[QUOTE=DaddySan;1771554]Hi Guys, I need your help to refresh my memory.

At the start of my yearly stay in BKK in January, I did some scouting on the MPs in Soi33.

On the lot where Hotel S33 is (former Peep Inn, where Akane used to be), on the RHS as you enter from the Soi, there is a Japanese style MP.

I think you have to go up one stairs, but I am not sure any more.

It seemed very worthwhile visiting, but my steady TGFs kept me permanently exhausted, so I never made it and now I cannot remember the name of the MP.

Can anyone help me withe name / website of the place? Any personal experience would also be most welcome.

Thanks.

DS.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Mitu Massage ([URL]http://mitubangkok.com/[/URL]), although that would be the LHS if you enter the Soi from Sukhumvit.

I went there 1 1/2 year ago, so you can probably search my posts from this era for the review. However, the website and the girls seem to have changed completely since then, so not sure that would be helpful to you. The prices also seem to have risen dramatically...