Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1103905]Went out for a few bevvies last night. First stopped over at Nana.

Angelwitch. I really don't know what the big deal is. The shows are just okay but not great. I was unimpressed.

Spanky's. A few hotties but the shows again are pretty shit. They had a lesbian show that was okay but Suzie Wong's is much better. A girl came up to me. She was a 6 at best but was definitely up for it. 2,000 baht short time and she would not come down so we fucked off out of there.

Walked over to Cowboy. Baccara was way too crowded because of its anniversary party. Went into Shark. Lots of girls but no #14 (who I was looking for). Another came and sat down. She was a 6 or 7. Bought her a drink but she would still not go for the offered 1500 ST.

Went into Tilac. Seems that the showgirls are wearing slutty outfits, and what's this. Tights? Complete turn-off for yours truly. One of the attractions of this bar is the no underwear policy but it seems that most girls were wearing thongs underneath or the aforementioned tights. A few seemed high on yaba as well.

Walked into Dollhouse to close out the night. The hottie #8 was nowhere to be found so I went upstairs. Sat under a lovely piece of ass. Bought her a drink and made out and groped for a bit. It's quite dark upstairs but she's probably a 7. Again, she wanted 2, 000 baht and would not come down.

I've lived here for 4 years and have never paid more than 1, 500 for ST, even in high season, and unless she's a fucking supermodel, I'm not going to start. It seems that Thailand is not longer the cheap mongering destination it used to be. Or I may just have to stay away from the go-go scene until March. [/QUOTE]Dead right no way 2k shorttime, true Suzie Wongs good show.

[QUOTE=El Frances; 1102688]In Thermae, ALL girls are FLs. However, the pretty girls are exclusively targeting Japanese ATMs and will never even look at a white guy. Some girls also go with farangs but they are not so pretty.

[/QUOTE]I am a white English guy and my experiences with the Thermae is that I am totally ignored by all the girls, they are only interested in Asian guys.

I did not have any problems with The Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, the girls there were happy to go with Western guys.

[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1103879]From now on, no more running tab. Pay each order individually. Let's see how they can cheat next time around.

F that!

Spaceman[/QUOTE]Couldn't it turn into more expensive if youend up in giving a tip after every single order / bill? It is somehow customary to leave the change or so withth ebill (not a rule, but I think most do it that way and waitresses also expect that).

If you leave a 100 or 200B on the tap is something, if you leave 40/50 or so for every bill you end up with more.

Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=CocoLove;1103928]Dead right no way 2k shorttime.[/QUOTE]I admire your principles, however the fact that some of these girls will not budge with their prices suggests to me that they are finding customers willing to pay the asking price, maybe Japanese, but someone is clearly paying.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1104018]I admire your principles, however the fact that some of these girls will not budge with their prices suggests to me that they are finding customers willing to pay the asking price, maybe Japanese, but someone is clearly paying.[/QUOTE]Maybe going home empty handed 1 night, and scoring a "3, 3, 3" (3 inches. 3 minutes. 3,000 bt) every other night, is better than a sweaty farang at 1,000 Bt a pop every night?

Good for you to resist these rates. (not all girls get that 3, 3.3 thingy. So they should eventually give in)

I was there in May and 1500 ST was an easy catch from ALL gogo bars (remember to add 600/700 barfine and 1-2 lady drinks to these rates). It's worrying trend, is it due to the high season though. ! I've never been in Dec / Jan, now I almost regret booking.

I hope the FL are not raising their prices. That would only leaves MP and Soapies options in Bangkok (I'm assuming they keep their prices fixed).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1102854]Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.[/QUOTE]Thta's true, but not so easy to implement. Last time I went, the barman was another French guy that I did not know. He was also a bit unfriendly and rushed me to choose a oirl. When I came down, I just did not feel like explaining in frontt of everyone why I did not like it etc. I prefer to cut my losses, and not go back.

I had no problem with the look of the girls, but with the attitude and service.

Obviously those of us with a bad opinion of Eden are in the minority, so perhaps it is us who are not ready for this kind of experience.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin; 1104074]Good for you to resist these rates. (not all girls get that 3, 3.3 thingy. So they should eventually give in)

I was there in May and 1500 ST was an easy catch from ALL gogo bars (remember to add 600/700 barfine and 1-2 lady drinks to these rates). [/QUOTE]Interesting that you say ALL gogo bars.

In Rainbow 4 the better looking girls will hold out for 2000 baht, after midnight the rougher girls will no doubt be happy with 1500 baht.

Some girls get barfined every night, others rarely get barfined.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1102854]Did you complain to Marc (The Manager)? They have a strict policy at EDEN in which if for any reason you do not enjoy yourself, you get your FULL money back or they replace the girls with 2 new ones.[/QUOTE]Me too had a very bad expereince at EDEN, repeated next day again but the same bad attitude, infact I complained to the Guy there at the Bar that your girls put me to sleep, he pointed that to another lady at the cash counter, but she too ignored and pretended busy, had to pay 8000 Bhat for me and my freind and just walked out. I feel Edens day are over, I had an excellent time at Devils Den, I almost visited 4 time and expereince on each day was great.

Drkb744

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab; 1103968]I am a white English guy and my experiences with the Thermae is that I am totally ignored by all the girls, they are only interested in Asian guys.

I did not have any problems with The Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, the girls there were happy to go with Western guys. [/QUOTE]Thats incorrect.

I have been with a number of Thermae FL's, however they are only interested in Western guys who speak Thai well and who are living in Thailand. Yes, their target clientelle is Japanese tourists however they will go with certain Western guys.

The difference between Thermae and BG is that Thermae generally the girls are not interested in your average Western tourist, whereas in the BG Soi 7 they are.

Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop.

[QUOTE=The Pro; 1104438]Thats incorrect.

Do not generalise so much, it is far more correct to say that Thermae girls are not at all interested in Western tourists. Full stop. [/QUOTE]

I think it would be more correct to say that the young good looking girls at Thermae will not go with Farangs unless rent is due and the Japanese are nowhere to be seen. Even then it is iffy. The less attractive girls there, and there are lots of those and they tend to sit as opposed to stand because they are getting older by the minute, will go with anyone and in truth the Japanese will have nothing to do with them.

But I have seen many many instances in which attractive girls there have been astonishingly rude to Farangs who approach them. Waving them away dismissively before a word is exchanged, turning their backs on them or telling them they will only go with Japanese. And only Japanese. Chinese-Americans have told me they get treated badly as well as soon as the girl realizes they are not Japanese. One girl that I already knew came with me one time and jabbered with her friends on the way out the door. I asked what that was about. She said they asked her why she was going with a Farang . She told them I was a good guy.

Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1104706]Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head. It's not because they are Jappos that the girls like them, but because they don't get scared about paying 3 or 4 or even 5k if they want the girl. Also, they don't have a lot of power and huge cocks so the girls are not too tired or in pain after the session (s).

The Good thing about Japanese Guys is that they really know why they go to Thermae. They have an itch that need scratching, they hire a hooker, do the deed and bye bye.

Farangs are looking for relationships, girlfriends. And some girls don't have time for this bullshit.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1104706]Its not a racial thing, its a money thing. We have gotten a reputation for being cheap and difficult in their eyes. They are in this for the money so I can't say I blame them.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree. And the japanese have a reputation to be generous.

So we are on opposite ends.

Obvipously there could be softer ways to neglect themselves to a western guy.

But having (willing) to do so 20 times a day, after some time the might build a rudeness they are not even be aware of.

In addition, with no offence, if they would be polite (I know, politeness is not that much expensive) and all ok they might aim to a different job.

I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.

So the only think makes it worthwhile is money. They figure they can do one jap trick (no matter how bad) and make money 3 or 4 times a normal trick.

(Disclaimer: All my opinion of course and it's not a generalization for all)

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin;1104974]I reckon it's just the large sum of money the girls can bag from japs that make them go for those guys. But I hear they are no angels in bed either (as you guys make them out to be) , they are very rude and offensive and even rough in bed, use various tools / toys up all holes to make up for small dick and the girls rarely can count on a repeat for good service.[/QUOTE]Of course there are those. But there are also those that just want to play checkers with the girls. And of course I've also heard about a father / son team. Generally, they are no different than us. They come in all shapes and sizes.