Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

Speaking of sloppy seconds at soapies. I am looking to avoid women who work too much (too many days in a row and / or too many customers before I get there). One thing I noticed with women who are sloppy seconds is that sometimes they religiously wash their hoo-haah (ie: pussy) while I am towel drying off. It's like they're trying to wash the smell of sex out (which makes sense, I wouldn't want to smell that either). That's usually the final sign I need, but at this point it's too late.

It's hard for me to know which women are fresh that day / week without having a good papasan / mamasan contact. So I am going to just pick a single soapy, and get a sales contact there, and he / she will be my guide on which hoo-haahs (again, code for pussy) are fresh that week / day. I think in general, the service they provide is the most important service at a soapy: recommendations and pre-booking already proven women (who others mongers will be trying to prebook).

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1773299]Speaking of sloppy seconds at soapies. I am looking to avoid women who work too much (too many days in a row and / or too many customers before I get there). One thing I noticed with women who are sloppy seconds is that sometimes they religiously wash their hoo-haah (ie: pussy) while I am towel drying off. It's like they're trying to wash the smell of sex out (which makes sense, I wouldn't want to smell that either). That's usually the final sign I need, but at this point it's too late.
[/QUOTE]I prefer women who "religiously" wash their pussies to those who don't and think your theory about how it indicates they work too much is a bit too creative. It is those who do not wash their pussies religiously that I try to avoid, although this is not exactly something you can pre-screen in an interview.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1773032]I recently wrote about the places Nataree and Emmanuelle here a few days ago. I would avoid both, and kind of for the reasons you are asking about.

I really have been turned off by Emmanuelle, and I will not be going back. Everyone there is very high pressure on tips. Both the staff and the women. It's like being a scammy gogo bar. You are not supposed to tip these people. They are working there and paid well by management. Paid well by all the massive amounts of money that flows thru there.

Nataree is generally better to avoid. You can read recent reports in this thread to get a better idea. I never had them ask me for a tip, but probably because they that know I go there a lot. You are not supposed to tip ever. And 500 baht tip is insane, what a scamming. You got hustled.

For Huai Kwang, go to Colonze 2, Alaina or (if you want a really swanky place) The Lord.[/QUOTE]Thanks for confirming-- I guess I did get hustled out of 700 baht between the two places. Will check out the other places next time!

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1773201]Your post shows that you're way out of touch with the regular scene Dan. Full disclosure, yes I'm young and I speak Thai but, I'm not rich, not Asian, not white and whether or not I'm good looking would vary from person to person. With that said I hook up with good looking girls all the time in Bangkok. Girls of all walks of life. Rich Bangkok girls, hard working girls from other provinces, regular bar hopping sluts, university girls, high school girls (over 18), food vendors, business owners, receptionists, flight attendants, nurses and many others. No money changes hands with these girls and I don't entice them with promises of marriage or gifts. They like me, I like them and that's how it goes....
[/QUOTE]I can speak only from my own experience. And my experience has been very different from yours.

Everyone's experience is valid. But it's hard to know whose experience is more usual, without doing some kind of a statistical study of a large sample of people. Because you always have unusual people, when you deal with individuals. But when you take many individuals at random, then they average out, and you get what normally happens for most people.

But I don't think there is any dispute about the fact that A+ isn't very popular among most massage women. Most massage women need some incentive and persuasion to overcome their reluctance to do it. And the usual way for a guy to provide such an incentive is to offer some extra money to the lady, even if she doesn't ask for it.

This is just common sense. But on top of this, my point is that even paying extra to ladies who normally do A+ is an indirect way to get more ladies to do A+. Because ladies talk with each other, and they often imitate each other too, especially when there is some extra money in it for them.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1773201]Your post shows that you're way out of touch with the regular scene Dan. Full disclosure, yes I'm young and I speak Thai but, I'm not rich, not Asian, not white and whether or not I'm good looking would vary from person to person. With that said I hook up with good looking girls all the time in Bangkok. Girls of all walks of life. Rich Bangkok girls, hard working girls from other provinces, regular bar hopping sluts, university girls, high school girls (over 18), food vendors, business owners, receptionists, flight attendants, nurses and many others. No money changes hands with these girls and I don't entice them with promises of marriage or gifts. They like me, I like them and that's how it goes.

As far as your pervert comments, what these girls like sexually will vary as much as the girls themselves. I have an 18 year old high school girl from Hua Hin that likes to lick my ass for her enjoyment, I have a 28 year old business owner from Nakhon Sawan that likes to be choked, I have an H. I. S. office girl that comes from being fucked in the ass, and the list goes on and on. Prostitutes do sex acts for money, we know this, but there are many girls that do what they like with who they like for nothing at all. The effort is minimal on my part. I simply stay in touch through Line and meet up with who I want when I'm free. Who I choose usually depends on what I'm in the mood for. The H. I. S. Girl stays in heavy rotation because I love buttfucking and she likes it in the ass. She also lives close to me. When I want a really good BJ I know restaurant owner that loves to watch movies and suck dick. Every now and then a girl leaves the rotation because of a steady boyfriend or moving away for work. I promptly replace her with a new girl and move on. Just today I had three girls that wanted to meet and passed on all three since I just wanted to walk around alone and relax.

If you want, I'd be glad to bring you up to speed with the regular girl scene Dan. You would have to check your outdated opinion at the door though. Cheers.[/QUOTE]If you have a lot of ladies wanting to fuck you for free what the fuck are you doing in this forum!

I am old, bald, fat and must pay for it and that is why I am looking for hints in this forum.

You should go in the "Playboy" forum, if there is one.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1773348]I prefer women who "religiously" wash their pussies to those who don't and think your theory about how it indicates they work too much is a bit too creative. It is those who do not wash their pussies religiously that I try to avoid, although this is not exactly something you can pre-screen in an interview.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was hoping I was onto something there LOL. Either that or I like dirty pussies and I'm just weird like that.

I think I'm just going to pick a single soapy, and build a business relationship with one of the sales / managers there. He / she can tell me who's new on rotation, who's good service, send me photos of new girls. I can then prune the talent that I am looking for there instead of rolling the die. I also think pre-booking is the way to go because the best ones get pre-booked by the locals. Just showing up and you will have whatever the locals don't want (or don't want anymore) pushed onto you. But if you call, then the only way that they can establish your actual business is to provide you with what you want instead of whatever they are trying to get rid of.

[QUOTE=OldPhart;1773088]Thank you for this! I once received a little BBBJ at Akane, but otherwise it's been condom BJ only. They rarely if ever get naked in the shower.

You've sold me on Natsumi. I can only hope she's still there when I return.

For rimming, I still endorse Emi. I don't know if she'll do a BBBJ, but I've never asked her. Her tongue does a very thorough job of rectum scrubbing. I half expect to see her nose come out my nose.[/QUOTE]For 3 years, I used to be a regular with M***** who has unfortunately left Akane, quite soon after they moved to th other side of Soi 33 and I have never been back since.

The first time, she was quite "shy", strictly "no bum bum", although she did perform a great BBBJ.

The second time, I had her swap places with me on that funny Sukube chair in the shower. She apparently enjoyed the treatment and from then on, it was "anything goes".

She didn't particularly like A+, so I didn't insist, but otherwise everything you can immagine was on the menu. She (i.e. we) even started forgetting the condoms.

I still miss her, but do intend to sample Akane33 again in January, if time and stamina permit.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1773496]Yeah I was hoping I was onto something there LOL. Either that or I like dirty pussies and I'm just weird like that.

I think I'm just going to pick a single soapy, and build a business relationship with one of the sales / managers there. He / she can tell me who's new on rotation, who's good service, send me photos of new girls. I can then prune the talent that I am looking for there instead of rolling the die. I also think pre-booking is the way to go because the best ones get pre-booked by the locals. Just showing up and you will have whatever the locals don't want (or don't want anymore) pushed onto you. But if you call, then the only way that they can establish your actual business is to provide you with what you want instead of whatever they are trying to get rid of.[/QUOTE]Takes time to find a really good mamasan / papasan that knows what you like. Not that many are totally honest. Many have their special girls that they get a kickback for recommending to newbies, even if the girls are crap. Some won't recommend very good girls, simply because they don't know them or those girls are not on their special list. It's is sometimes like they have a stable of girls they know/recommend (subset of the whole lot) and get kickbacks from.

Sometimes the taste of the papasan is completely different to my own. He recommends girls that are way different from my taste. Thai men like something different to me.

Okay The cheer persons may know if the girl performs well. May or may not know if she is dick scared or kisses. Hopefully will know if she has a baby or has silicones or saggy tits.

I have very few cheer persons that I could rely on for help. Only tip if the recommendation proved to be a big success. Then tip them well if advice was very helpful (afterwards). You don't want them to get any money for recommending a dud girl, above the kick-back.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1773820]Takes time to find a really good mamasan / papasan that knows what you like. Not that many are totally honest. Many have their special girls that they get a kickback for recommending to newbies, even if the girls are crap. Some won't recommend very good girls, simply because they don't know them or those girls are not on their special list. It's is sometimes like they have a stable of girls they know/recommend (subset of the whole lot) and get kickbacks from.

Sometimes the taste of the papasan is completely different to my own. He recommends girls that are way different from my taste. Thai men like something different to me.

Okay The cheer persons may know if the girl performs well. May or may not know if she is dick scared or kisses. Hopefully will know if she has a baby or has silicones or saggy tits.

I have very few cheer persons that I could rely on for help. Only tip if the recommendation proved to be a big success. Then tip them well if advice was very helpful (afterwards). You don't want them to get any money for recommending a dud girl, above the kick-back.[/QUOTE]From my own experience I would say that the most reliable recommendation you can get is when the lady recommends herself to you.

It's when the lady looks at you, makes eye-contact with you and shows some desire to go with you. And of course, several ladies might do this at the same time. And some of them might even be equally eager to go with you. And this is when you end up choosing the lady by her looks, or perhaps coming back and doing the other ladies too.

Self-recommendation works so well in this situation because the lady needs to be in the mood to enjoy with you. Or else she just ends up doing her time with you, without enjoying herself. And if she isn't enjoying it, then neither will you. Such feelings are contagious, when people spend time together.

The most important part of any encounter is how people relate to each other on the personal level. And it's true that some massage ladies are consistently better than others, when it comes to relating to their customers. But not everybody recommends ladies on this basis. People can recommend her to you because of her looks or for some other reason. But when the lady is good at relating to her customers, then most of the time you can see this for yourself, when you first encounter her.

The only way recommendations of others might be reliable, is when you know the reason why others are recommending the lady to you. Because then you can decide whether this reason is something you want or not. It's like in this forum, some guys might recommend you a lady who is good at doing A+. And if that's what you are looking for, then she might be the one for you to check out.

Can anyone enlighten me if Candy / Beer is still working regular rosters? I see her on the Candy massage website but don't see many reviews here or PP so don't know. Lot of discussion around Yaya and Guitar.

I'm in BKK in November (twice) and hope to see her.

[QUOTE=Supmam;1773910]Can anyone enlighten me if Candy / Beer is still working regular rosters? I see her on the Candy massage website but don't see many reviews here or PP so don't know. Lot of discussion around Yaya and Guitar.[/QUOTE]Candy responded to my email pretty quickly and in a helpful manner: [EMAIL]candy28beer28@ymail.com[/EMAIL].

SunLover.

I finally arrived to Bangkok and it's amazing! It's impossible to not find ladies all around (and even some lady boys). Since it's my first time here I had to do some reconissance to scope out the area of Nana. Found NEP and the famous Nana plaza hotel sign and I knew I was at the right place. It was around 5:30 pm so not much going on yet but once it gets dark, it's a completely different story. Walked around till about 8 ish and finally decided to spend some money. I saw all these ladies with their flimsy papers of prices for massages not knowing if they offer FS. Their sign said 300 baht for an hour massage so I said what the hell, worst thing that can happen is I leave with an hours massage. Went in, took off my shoes and into this room where the girl covered my little space with curtains. She was cute and I don't remember the name of the place, but it was on Soi 4. During the massage I can hear the Indian guy in the next curtained room next to me breathing heavy and the girl too. I made a gesture to my girl and she laughed. I still want sure if certain girls did FS and maybe mine didn't. About 45 min into the massage she asked if I wanted FS for 1000 baht and I said sure. She noticed the size of my dick and wanted 1500, but we already said 1000 and she didn't give me problems with that. Total damage 1400 baht including massage fee and tip.

Wasn't done with the night so went over to Annie's (I know there's a Annie's forum but why split up a good story?) saw the mean mamasan who kinda rushed the customers. Decided on #4 and she was the prettiest of the bunch. Typical what you'd read on this forums. Pay 2500 baht for 2 hours. Get soaped up, bathed up and fuck.

Day 2 continues.

Dino,

Nice, but try to remember some names of places and girls next time. At least you got "No. 4" which helps.

A little more detail about how the girl looked and how she performed, would be nice, otherwise seems like the session was very boring. I have see pics of number 4, so I know slim nice body, but face hidden.

Ixgzca,

This is very true, my circumstances don't permit trying to hook up with lady, but years ago I spent most of my free time doing this.

Unfortunately I can't speak Thai so I had to settle on hooking up with regular hookers, a lot of hookers are obviously not being satisfied by their customers otherwise they wouldn't be so easy to pick up and I'm not particularly handsome either my only strategy was a few hundred calisthenics each day to keep hard and lean which is what they seem to like I suppose they are sick of soft Viagra enhanced customers they have to work hard to satisfy for their job.

I agree with your comment the best strategy is a lady recommending herself what is the point of wasting time and money trying to find a good papa or mamasan. Most aren't really going to know the lady's service unless they were in the room watching the performance. Usually I find mamasans to be a bit more useful than their male equivalents and can definitely be of use to hint which lady's provide anal or certain other services but there's not really any need to tip them since their job is to provide what you ask for otherwise the customers will simply choose to go somewhere else.