Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2556404]I always stay at the Renaissance in Jardim Paulista. Lots of good food nearby, grocery stores and drugstores. Super safe to walk around all day and night.

Never had an issue with girls staying with me. Last couple of times, I had two girls spend the weekend and Marriott just charges you an extra person fee which is like $100 for two nights which includes breakfast.

Plus. Fogo do Chao is within walking distance. So after like 7 caipirinhas. I stumble home 🤣129315;.[/QUOTE]Stayed there years ago. Very nice place and I liked the location. A little on the high side, but no more expensive now than 15 years ago! I guess w Covid, hotels are having a hard time filling rooms.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2556185]I'm thinking of these 3 hotels (all 4 star hotels):

Mercure So Paulo Moema Hotel.

Transamerica Executive Paulista.

Mercure So Paulo Pinheiros.

Most important factor is the proximity to the clinicas. It doesn't look like there are any decent hotels near Scandallo. I suppose I'll just taxi there.

According to Natty, Mercury So Paulo seems to be the best bet, with clinicas in walking distance throughout Moema.

I plan on getting a 4 night stay to see if I like it. Then I can either extend or find a new hotel.[/QUOTE]Mercure are GF. You may consider walk proximity to the nearest metro station. Also, even with google maps tools on walking, sometimes it's just not feasible due to traffic / road layout. Example: you can walk from Moema to Tangara, but practically you need a ride.

I canceled a Sao Paulo trip a few hours before my flight took off about a month ago. When I canceled it, I booked another trip in mid May which is one week away. Brazil's covid situation is still bad. Should I go or cancel my trip again? Really a headache. I am fully vaccinated, but just couldn't find the information such as -- you are safe as long as you have take the second shot of Pfizer covid vaccine. Would you go if you were me? I really missed Sao Paulo.

[QUOTE=Combo;2556406]Stayed there years ago. Very nice place and I liked the location. A little on the high side, but no more expensive now than 15 years ago! I guess w Covid, hotels are having a hard time filling rooms.[/QUOTE]Yup. Paying $122 a night with breakfast for two and 100 BRL to use for food and drinks at the hotel. That is the cheapest price I have ever seen at the hotel.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2556208]Another hotel to consider is Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera. I stayed there as well as in Mercure So Paulo Moema Hotel. I like Bourbon Convention better because Ibirapuera shopping mall is steps away and it is better soundproofed than Mercure. That area felt very safe. Also close to some of the clinicas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2556229]Again, I stayed at the Mercure Times Square in Moema. There was a decent grocery store within walking distance. There was a nearby barbershop. And although not as close as Bourbon, it was walking distance to Ibirupuera Shopping Center where there are a gazillion places to eat on the lower level. Also plenty of ATMs around, including in the shopping center plus a money exchange place there. And restaurants around on the streets. Moema is an excellent choice for all of these reasons, besides the fact that it's close to lots of clinicas for your daytime action. The only negative to consider is airport noise. I did not experience any problems with that when I stayed at the Mercure Times Square. Also had no problem bringing a girl in. She wasn't dressed like a tute, and we walked right past the desk no issues.[/QUOTE]Do you guys think a 4* hotel upgrade is worth it? Sounds like Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera is slightly more convenient and less noisy. But the other 3 hotels I listed are 4*.

Would you recommend booking WITH the breakfast option? Just wondering how good their breakfasts are. FWIW, when I stayed in Thailand, I thought the breakfast buffets were worth it.

Lastly, when I went through the booking process, it showed different nightly rates for 2 people (even w / o meals) vs 1 person (some hotels). This has no bearing on bringing guests to the hotel, right?

Looks like Mercure São Paulo Moema Hotel's largest bed is a double. I prefer a king, or at least queen. So that option's probably out. And Mercure Times Square in Moema also seems to be the same. Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera on the other hand has a king size bed. All things considered (convenient location, noise, bed size, and cost), it looks like Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera is the winner.

I'm actually a bit confused. The Bourbon booking site says it's a "double bed (king size)". So does Brazil consider double = king?

Work has already approved my 2 weeks PTO. I'll probably book the flight tomorrow after my 2nd shot. I read that United is much better than American. Fares and baggage fees are comparable. But I don't think I'll need to pack a check-in luggage. A carry on should be sufficient for a 2 week trip.

I had a horrible session with a Filipina last night. I need this trip to get rid of the bad taste in my mouth that session left. LOL. Weather looks amazing, I'm super excited!

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2556470]Do you guys think a 4* hotel upgrade is worth it? Sounds like Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera is slightly more convenient and less noisy. But the other 3 hotels I listed are 4*.

Would you recommend booking WITH the breakfast option? Just wondering how good their breakfasts are. FWIW, when I stayed in Thailand, I thought the breakfast buffets were worth it.[/QUOTE]Nothing beats the buffets in Asia and the ones you get in Brazil are definitely not comparable. But get the breakfast anyways if you are a breakfast person like me. I need my proper breakfast to start my day.

Also. If the rate shows two people, keep it that way. Brazilian hotels will charge you a guest charge of you don't have two guests for your room. It happens at some places and doesn't at others. Just book two guests and if they try to charge you, tell them you have two guests booked.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2556470]Do you guys think a 4* hotel upgrade is worth it? Sounds like Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera is slightly more convenient and less noisy. But the other 3 hotels I listed are 4*.

Would you recommend booking WITH the breakfast option? Just wondering how good their breakfasts are. FWIW, when I stayed in Thailand, I thought the breakfast buffets were worth it.

Lastly, when I went through the booking process, it showed different nightly rates for 2 people (even w / o meals) vs 1 person (some hotels). This has no bearing on bringing guests to the hotel, right?

Looks like Mercure So Paulo Moema Hotel's largest bed is a double. I prefer a king, or at least queen. So that option's probably out. And Mercure Times Square in Moema also seems to be the same. Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera on the other hand has a king size bed. All things considered (convenient location, noise, bed size, and cost), it looks like Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera is the winner.

I'm actually a bit confused. The Bourbon booking site says it's a "double bed (king size)". So does Brazil consider double = king?

Work has already approved my 2 weeks PTO. I'll probably book the flight tomorrow after my 2nd shot. I read that United is much better than American. Fares and baggage fees are comparable. But I don't think I'll need to pack a check-in luggage. A carry on should be sufficient for a 2 week trip.

I had a horrible session with a Filipina last night. I need this trip to get rid of the bad taste in my mouth that session left. LOL. Weather looks amazing, I'm super excited![/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Mercure Times Square a couple of times, and liked it enough that I would do it again. That said, to be honest, I was thinking about giving Bourbon a shot the next time. I never book with breakfast included because I can rarely drag my ass up in time to eat within the time frame they give you. So, it's not a good deal for me. But that's just me. You could be totally different. On the other hand, when going to Brazil I always book for two people without fail. I've never had a problem bringing young girls to my room, and I believe that's been a part of my successful formula (booking for two), besides the front desk just not giving a damn haha! It's extra insurance against any problems and / or extra charges and hassles though. I prefer a king size bed too, but thinking back on it, I don't think I've ever had one in Brazil. I just book whatever the biggest size is that they have, and its been fine. As for airlines, I definitely prefer United over American (can't stand them). I like Delta even better. But then again, that's just me!

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2554296]
I am starting to like the P4P situation in Sao Paulo even better than the Euro fkks. All the p4p facilities in Sao Paulo are non-smoking, in contrast to the smoke-infested Euro fkks. My wallet likes Sao Paulo better too. It was hard to get consistent GFE service in cheap German fkks like Sharks. For reliable GFE service in Europe, I had to go expensive Globe in Zurich @ 280 CHF / hour. A 3-hour session at Globe would set me back 840 CHF. Ouch!! A 3-hour session with an equally hot chic in Sao Paulo can be had for 1,000 reals.

From now on, my main destination is Sao Paulo. However, after Europe opens again, I will still go to fkk Globe occasionally to satisfy the temptation for naked girls and public sex. Globe has the best lineup in the world, if you like the slender gazelle physique like I do. 99% of Globe girls are slim with flat tummies, slender legs and slender asses.
[/QUOTE]In my opinion, there is no comparison between Globe and Scandallo wrt ambience, number of available girls and the beauty ratio.

I have visited Globe many times and have never seen more than 60 girls (40 is average). Scandallo had 200+ girls during my visits. Globe deliberately limits top talent (in terms of beauty and skills) to 10-15% of total strength, which amounts to 5-8 girls on any given day. Scandallo had at least 50 girls (25% of the strength) I could have picked without hesitation. Another big problem with Globe is the top talent mostly busy or booked in advance. Some don't even make appearance on the floor the whole day. I didn't think finding a beautiful girl I liked was a problem amount 200+ girls at Scandallo.

I saw plenty of gazelle types in Scandallo. Most of the girls there were healthy looking (enough meet on the bones) than anorexic looking gazelle types LOL. I guess Globe is the place if you fancy only gazelle types LOL.

Those who book girls for multiple hours in Globe can easily take a gorgeous Scandallo girl to spend multiple days for the same price.

I don't like the air-conditioning situation at Globe especially in summer. It is hard to enjoy fucking gorgeous girl when you are sweating like a pig LOL. That is not a problem at Scandallo. Yes, Scandallo is expensive when compared to German FKKs but not when compared to Globe. I plan to visit Brazil more and Fkks bit less. Anyone travelling from US to visit Globe should consider visiting Scandallo.

As you have indicated, public sex and voyer day is unique to Globe and worth experiencing them.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2556484]In my opinion, there is no comparison between Globe and Scandallo wrt ambience, number of available girls and the beauty ratio.

I have visited Globe many times and have never seen more than 60 girls (40 is average). Scandallo had 200+ girls during my visits. Globe deliberately limits top talent (in terms of beauty and skills) to 10-15% of total strength, which amounts to 5-8 girls on any given day. Scandallo had at least 50 girls (25% of the strength) I could have picked without hesitation. Another big problem with Globe is the top talent mostly busy or booked in advance. Some don't even make appearance on the floor the whole day. I didn't think finding a beautiful girl I liked was a problem amount 200+ girls at Scandallo.

I saw plenty of gazelle types in Scandallo. Most of the girls there were healthy looking (enough meet on the bones) than anorexic looking gazelle types LOL. I guess Globe is the place if you fancy only gazelle types LOL.

Those who book girls for multiple hours in Globe can easily take a gorgeous Scandallo girl to spend multiple days for the same price.

I don't like the air-conditioning situation at Globe especially in summer..[/QUOTE]At some point, I plan to stop going to Germany altogether, and will focus my major mongering energies in Brazil and Brazil only. Not just on Sampa and Rio either. I mean, I intend to explore many other areas of the country as well.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2556473]I've stayed at the Mercure Times Square a couple of times, and liked it enough that I would do it again. That said, to be honest, I was thinking about giving Bourbon a shot the next time. I never book with breakfast included because I can rarely drag my ass up in time to eat within the time frame they give you. So, it's not a good deal for me. But that's just me. You could be totally different. On the other hand, when going to Brazil I always book for two people without fail. I've never had a problem bringing young girls to my room, and I believe that's been a part of my successful formula (booking for two), besides the front desk just not giving a damn haha! It's extra insurance against any problems and / or extra charges and hassles though. I prefer a king size bed too, but thinking back on it, I don't think I've ever had one in Brazil. I just book whatever the biggest size is that they have, and its been fine. As for airlines, I definitely prefer United over American (can't stand them). I like Delta even better. But then again, that's just me![/QUOTE]I don't book room with breakfast for the same reason. I don't know how girl friendly Bourbon is. I didn't bother to check during my stay as it was my first trip and had not plans to bring guests. Some hotels consider any guest that is not with you at check-in time as additional guest. Some hotels change extra for such guests or some refuse entry altogether (I have not experience this case but I do hear other reporting on forums time to time).

Bourbon hotel in Foz do Iguayou did allow guests but they charged me 50 Real each time I had a guest. I agree, registering guest at hotel front desk provides security.

I am trying to use my remaining AA miles so I could fly other better airlines but pandemic is not helping.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2556470]Do you guys think a 4* hotel upgrade is worth it? Sounds like Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera is slightly more convenient and less noisy. But the other 3 hotels I listed are 4*.
[/QUOTE]I use hotels dot com site and according to them all the hotels you have initially picked are 3. 5 stars just like Bourbon. I personally don't care about stars over 3 unless I am brining a guest to impress.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2556470]
Would you recommend booking WITH the breakfast option? Just wondering how good their breakfasts are. FWIW, when I stayed in Thailand, I thought the breakfast buffets were worth it.
[/QUOTE]Breakfast costs only 5 bucks for 2 at Bourbon. I did have breakfast one day but I went there a closing time. I thought whatever they had left was decent. Yes hotels in Asian countries do have elaborate breakfast. I wouldn't have such high hopes with Bourbon breakfast.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2556470]
Lastly, when I went through the booking process, it showed different nightly rates for 2 people (even w / o meals) vs 1 person (some hotels). This has no bearing on bringing guests to the hotel, right?

Looks like Mercure So Paulo Moema Hotel's largest bed is a double. I prefer a king, or at least queen. So that option's probably out. And Mercure Times Square in Moema also seems to be the same. Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera on the other hand has a king size bed. All things considered (convenient location, noise, bed size, and cost), it looks like Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera is the winner.

I'm actually a bit confused. The Bourbon booking site says it's a "double bed (king size)". So does Brazil consider double = king?
[/QUOTE]I see the price difference on hotel site but the difference is not much. The site I mentioned above shows the same rate for 1 or 2 people. I see great rates for next few months at Bourbon. Even suite or junior suites are about $40/ night and fully refundable until the day of check-in.

In some countries double bed means a bed double the size of single bed. It could be two single beds attached together or a big single bed (king). Choose 1 double bed instead of 2 single beds.

Even tough Mercure and Bourbon hotels are walkable distance from each other I like Bourbon's location. Mall next door has good food court and few restaurants in case you want to eat something as Cane mentioned in his post.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2556229]Again, I stayed at the Mercure Times Square in Moema. There was a decent grocery store within walking distance. There was a nearby barbershop. And although not as close as Bourbon, it was walking distance to Ibirupuera Shopping Center where there are a gazillion places to eat on the lower level. Also plenty of ATMs around, including in the shopping center plus a money exchange place there. And restaurants around on the streets. Moema is an excellent choice for all of these reasons, besides the fact that it's close to lots of clinicas for your daytime action. The only negative to consider is airport noise. I did not experience any problems with that when I stayed at the Mercure Times Square. Also had no problem bringing a girl in. She wasn't dressed like a tute, and we walked right past the desk no issues.[/QUOTE]I agree the shopping center has big food court. It also has few restaurants. There are more than one convince store in that area where you could buy snacks, fruits, water, beer, liquor etc.

I felt very safe walking in Moemo even at night.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2556472]Nothing beats the buffets in Asia and the ones you get in Brazil are definitely not comparable. But get the breakfast anyways if you are a breakfast person like me. I need my proper breakfast to start my day.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Opted out of breakfast. Even in LOS, I had a hard time getting up for breakfast. Not much of a breakfast guy anyways. But Dream Hotel's was worth getting up for. I missed a few, though. I'll probably pay for it a la carte.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2556473]I've stayed at the Mercure Times Square a couple of times, and liked it enough that I would do it again. That said, to be honest, I was thinking about giving Bourbon a shot the next time. I never book with breakfast included because I can rarely drag my ass up in time to eat within the time frame they give you. So, it's not a good deal for me. But that's just me. You could be totally different. On the other hand, when going to Brazil I always book for two people without fail. I've never had a problem bringing young girls to my room, and I believe that's been a part of my successful formula (booking for two), besides the front desk just not giving a damn haha! It's extra insurance against any problems and / or extra charges and hassles though. I prefer a king size bed too, but thinking back on it, I don't think I've ever had one in Brazil. I just book whatever the biggest size is that they have, and its been fine. As for airlines, I definitely prefer United over American (can't stand them). I like Delta even better. But then again, that's just me![/QUOTE]United flight has been booked! Don't think I'll need check-in luggage, so I'm getting round trip for $535 (about 42 k chase points), although I won't be selecting my seat.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2556503]I use hotels dot com site and according to them all the hotels you have initially picked are 3. 5 stars just like Bourbon. I personally don't care about stars over 3 unless I am brining a guest to impress.
Breakfast costs only 5 bucks for 2 at Bourbon. I did have breakfast one day but I went there a closing time. I thought whatever they had left was decent. Yes hotels in Asian countries do have elaborate breakfast. I wouldn't have such high hopes with Bourbon breakfast.
I see the price difference on hotel site but the difference is not much. The site I mentioned above shows the same rate for 1 or 2 people. I see great rates for next few months at Bourbon. Even suite or junior suites are about $40/ night and fully refundable until the day of check-in.
In some countries double bed means a bed double the size of single bed. It could be two single beds attached together or a big single bed (king). Choose 1 double bed instead of 2 single beds.
Even tough Mercure and Bourbon hotels are walkable distance from each other I like Bourbon's location. Mall next door has good food court and few restaurants in case you want to eat something as Cane mentioned in his post.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Booked a week in Bourbon's best room for less than $40/ night! I booked through Chase ultimate rewards and I think I got an additional discount for booking my flight with rewards points.

Might hit up Rio afterwards. Let's see if I get sick of SP by week's end. LOL. I plan on ubering around while I'm there.

From what I can gather, it looks like I need to get a covid test before flying to Brazil and again before flying back to the US?

[QUOTE=DanielMatt;2556428]I canceled a Sao Paulo trip a few hours before my flight took off about a month ago. When I canceled it, I booked another trip in mid May which is one week away. Brazil's covid situation is still bad. Should I go or cancel my trip again? Really a headache. I am fully vaccinated, but just couldn't find the information such as -- you are safe as long as you have take the second shot of Pfizer covid vaccine. Would you go if you were me? I really missed Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]CDC does not recommend international travel to 80% of the world and Brazil being one of them regardless if you have been vaccinated. Out of 77 million people vaccinated in the US, 5,800 got infected, 7% hospitalized, and 70 died. The vaccine is very effective but there is still a small chance. Look in the general discussion section where Spidy posted some questions to ask yourself if you should go or not.

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-about-5-800-breakthrough-infections-reported-fully-vaccinated-people-n1264186[/URL]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2556540]
Might hit up Rio afterwards. Let's see if I get sick of SP by week's end. LOL. [/QUOTE]You can get a free leg if you book by points. The GIG-GRU leg should cost 0 point. Arrive at one airport and leave from the other airport.

Brazil seems to be the only choice for me now Thailand is shut.