Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=11Bravo; 1347595]I'm shocked, SHOCKED, to find out that wg's use monetary compensation to determine eagerness. And here I thought it was just my good heart. .

I always wonder how those who are too busy to search themselves will always somehow HAVE the time to monger.
[/list][/QUOTE]We should do a social thread: links to distinctive posts, LOL.

The funny things about these guys not having time to RTTF is that they expect others have the time to resume in a post what has been, (already) and with time consuming, written here.

In a few words: they don't have the time for their own needs, and we have to grant our time for their enjoyment.

The location is not clear! Please provide the direction to reach the place.

Hello All, I wish I had found this forum before accidently stumbling on to the scene.

I have been in Dubai for a few months now but had no idea about the bar scene. Some time last month I was shopping on Al Fahidi Street (9 PM) and thought it would be a good idea to get a cold beer. Popped in to hotel Astoria's TGIT, paid AED 35 cover charge which included 1 free drink. I grabbed a beer and already hated this place, it was small & fully packed. I did not notice any thing unsual about the place, a lot of guys & a few African / PRC ladies. I began to quickly gulp the beer so I can get the fuck out, a few girls brush past me but I think nothing of it (how dumb!).

Then a PRC women come over to me & starts asking questions "where are you from" "what your name", after that came the Shock "You want massage" only then I realized were I was & what was going on. I have never been with a WG before & the prospect thrilled me. I asked what else was included replied s*k & f*k, seemed all inclusive to me. Negotiated 1 shot for 300 her place. At the time I was bit dazed from gulping the beer quickly but she seemed reasonably attractive MILF type. We get out from the bar & she leads me to private car with a Chinese guy (her cousin it seems) , I tell her no fucking way I get into a car with strangers. We take a short taxi ride to a crappy looking app complex & into a dingy room with a bed.

Her attitude now changes, she strips down quick, massage no longer offered & starts RUSHING. CBJ only offered, I don't know if it was the the beer or her attitude but I had trouble getting fully hard. Did a few positions, CBJ & HJ but I was nowhere near a Pop. She begun complaining "too tired blah blah", at this point I got pissed & left. This was last month & I had pretty much concluded that this sort of thing is not for me.

But now after reading some of the members posts about GFE experiences here, I want to give this another shot. I did read the last 20 pages or so & have an idea of the Places & Prices. I am willing to spend 500 ST for a nice GFE like encounter. This time I will make a pick, talk to a few more WG's & also not drink. Let us see what happens

Could somebody please suggest me.

1. Which bar has large area (not so cramped like TGIT)

2. Also has a mix of younger girls (Easier to Flirt & get GFE?)

3. Some tips on how you get a Rapport with these girls (Considering their poor english, also what can you talk about?)

I am total noob at this, I hope to find a nice regular provider out to this exercise. Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Poonhound69; 1347527]Unless you need an enormous amount, you can just buy it in Dubai.

Many pharmacies hapy to sell individual pills or a sheet of two.

-pH.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply everyone.

Wow, that's great that it's possible to buy 1 or 2 pills rather than get the full package which is usually 4 pills. What is the price per pill? I'm most likely going to buy from Life Pharmacy.

[QUOTE=Rivendell14; 1347499]I live in Dubai in the Bur Dubai area. Like many things in Dubai, mongering although a lot of fun it's also quite expensive. In order to cut cost I am thinking of taking girls to my apartment rather then booking a hotel room. My question to the senior members.

1. Should I do it or it's not worth the risk?

2. If I go ahead what are the risks involved and what can I do to minimize the risks?[/QUOTE]The risk is getting foul of the law. Mongering in itself is a risk hotel or your apt. Like 11B says depends on your self and where you live. In my case I never go to hotels. My parking is in the basement so straight up the lift no lobby walk of shame. However CCTV monitored by security in the lobby. They have been suitably compensated to see but not tell. Neighbours never met them, so don't know. I have the advantage of arranging my movements outside rush hour. LE will not just come looking on random unless there is cause or complaint to do so. Hope this helps in assessing to do or not do.

[QUOTE=Nick9525;1347616]The location is not clear! Please provide the direction to reach the place.[/QUOTE]Its at the end of trade ctr Road. If you come from the direction of Abudhabi take the trade ctr roundabout 4th exit and after passing 2 traffic light junctions its at the end of the road on your left. You can't miss it. Ask anyone around and they will point it out to you. The metro station is Khalid Bin al Waleed. Its a huge pinkish building. Best is to hop a taxi, just say Burjuman! And next time you need information ASK nicely or even better call 050ISGRTFF. After 3 years one would have thought you would get a membership. It costs a lot more than $20 for even the cheapest one shot.

That felt good.

[QUOTE=Nick9525;1347616]The location is not clear! Please provide the direction to reach the place.[/QUOTE]Why? 14 reports, didn't see any real FR's, just requests for more info. Seems to be a ONE-way street with you. Certainly not against the rules, but not really establishing any "cred" either.

On the plus side, posts like these just make posters like [b]Rallim[/b], among others, look so good.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1347609]In a few words: they don't have the time for their own needs, and we have to grant our time for their enjoyment.[/QUOTE][b]GREAT[/b] Line, well put.

[QUOTE=Rivendell14;1347608]11Bravo thanks for your prompt reply. I really appreciate your advice. Do you know of any instances when people got in trouble with LE because of bringing girls home. Just curious what's worst case scenario.[/QUOTE]As Snow1998 said, prostitution is illegal, AS IS sex outside of marriage. So you run a risk wherever you go if she's NOT your WIFE...

If you're DISCREET outside, what happens inside really is between you and the girl.
[list][*]Biggest risk would be your neighbors. Remember, there is a LE anonymous tip line. If you have a lot of "conservative" neighbors, that can be a problem, especially if they see a lot of comings and goings. Certainly less risk when she arrives, as it's PROBABLY (though not necessarily) later; more chance when she leaves in the morning. Depending on what floor you live on, you might consider stairs to minimize contact. Most don't use them.

On the other hand, if you live in a "western" area, much less risk. My block had a PRC knocking shop in 1 unit; LE never appeared; they just moved one day when the ST sub-let ran out. But they never caused problems either (except for the occasional IDIOT clients who blocked neighbors' driveways with their cars. Too lazy to walk an extra 20 m.). There was also a [i]Nigerian village[/i] in 1 unit; but given they never caused problems... were quiet and discreet.

Bottom line: are you a good neighbor, the kind YOU'd like to have as a neighbor? Most people have a "live and let live" attitude. The ole "you can swing your arm until your fist hits my nose..."

[*]Being friendly to staff, simply acknowledging them, goes a long way. Always bought my water cooler jugs of water from them. An Eid envelope keeps you a resident they want to see stay (mine would contain 300 dhs).

[*]PROPER behavior also important while in public. Nothing to make some husband jealous, some wife mad, than if you're hanging all over each other while waiting / inside the elevator / in hallway. Remember, THEY'RE also thinking about their kids and what THEY might see.

[*]Would minimize any [i]scenes[/i] inside the apartment; a drunk, jealous, or irked wg can cause a lot of noise. They do appreciate repeat business; beneficial for all; keep it that way. Not to say you accept bad service, but you're careful how they exit...

[*]I'd say the biggest [i]risk[/i] is that she knows where you live.[list][*]On the plus side, if she becomes a regular, she can find her own way there.

[*]On the negative side, she can find her own way there. There's been stories here where a girl has shown up unbidden, thrown a scene either in the lobby, or outside the apartment's door, kicking and screaming, most often after drinking. Certainly more of a [i]detriment[/i] to her, but you can become [i]collateral damage[/i]. After all, she'll have no trouble describing your apartment (nothing like asking a girl for her number, and she tells you that you already have it. She's been to your place, and when you express a bit of doubt, she starts DESCRIBING it.).[/list][/list]
For me, the benefits far outweighed any risks. Not just financial either. Chez Bravo more comfortable than any hotel.[list][*]Cheaper drinks than a minibar.[*]Bigger frig.[*]Kitchen where she can cook.[*]Great sound system, only playing the tunes I enjoy.[*]TV showing the sports I like to watch.[*]Much more comfortable engaging in the [i]sports[/i] I enjoy [u]participating[/u] in.[*]No worries of a knock on the door from security[/list]As I once posted, 1 regular who spent a lot of time at my place, even hanging out at the pool while I was at work, was mistaken for a wife by a neighbor's wife, who mentioned to me that they'd have to have US over for dinner sometime (think her husband clued her in, as, thankfully, actual invitation never came.)

For ME, benefits far outweighed any risks, but I know how to manage said risks.

You can always consider looking for a more friendly place to live if you're not living in one now. Condos have private entrances, direct to your door. Or like Snow1998 said, an apartment with a way to bypass the lobby. More expensive? Just consider applying what you're paying in hotel costs to rent...

WORST case: LE's called, not because you have some non-wife [i]company[/i], but for some primary reason (e.g., disturbance). You're arrested, have to hire a lawyer, appear in court, miss work. Your company [i]upset[/i] that they have an employee engaging in [b]criminal[/b] behavior in a [u]foreign[/u] country; not exactly the image they like to project. You're fired for "moral turpitude", which is "for cause". You can't get another job as you always fail the question of "why'd you leave your last job?", and your previous employer certainly WON'T give you a good recommendation. You end up poor and destitute on govt. dole. Never happen? Just ask those US secret service agents... On the plus side, you have some good memories...

[QUOTE=Commando1; 1347618]But now after reading some of the members posts about GFE experiences here, I want to give this another shot. I did read the last 20 pages or so & have an idea of the Places & Prices. I am willing to spend 500 ST for a nice GFE like encounter. This time I will make a pick, talk to a few more WG's & also not drink. Let us see what happens

Could somebody please suggest me.

1. Which bar has large area (not so cramped like TGIT)

2. Also has a mix of younger girls (Easier to Flirt & get GFE?)

3. Some tips on how you get a Rapport with these girls (Considering their poor english, also what can you talk about?)

I am total noob at this, I hope to find a nice regular provider out to this exercise. Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]As I normally operate out of AUH, I'll leave #1 to others, but I do have some thoughts on #2 and #3 when it comes to PRCs, which are the best value by far.

2. Younger doesn't necessarily mean better. Younger may mean more of a language problem and less experience in pleasing men. Whatever the age, the lady's motivation is money. A GFE can result from hiring an experienced WG on a regular basis and providing a safe and respectful environment in which to conduct "business". I'm not saying that you should look for grandmothers but there are many PRCs in their late 30s or even early 40s that look nice and will provide a better professional experience. Suggest you plan to try 4-5, which will be enough to calibrate the market, and then make a choice. One other thing to check on is visa type. Much better to make your investments in a provider who is on a three year visa.

3. Striking rapport is usually quite easy. Be a pleasant, smiling, respectful and clean person. Treat her like a lady. Don't push her to do things she doesn't want to do, they may well come later. Take a little time to get her warmed up and look to her pleasure, or at least her comfort. It's easy to find things to talk about. First of all take time to use Google translate on your laptop. If there are still things she doesn't understand you can often find Internet pictures that will help. Ask about her family. Most girls will have a single child and you can ask to see a picture, ask how they do in school etc. Tell her as much about your life as you are comfortable with. When you find a good one make a deal to take her 2-3 (or more) times a week. Do this at a consistent non prime time stipend. You're safe, clean, she knows what to expect. All factors to make this a good deal for her. I also always give that lady an option to do short times with others, particularly on the weekend, before she comes to spend the night with me. Several years ago I had a regular who was a real ST specialist to the tune of 2 or 3 some nights. She would come to sleep with me most nights and if she'd already done two guys she insisted that I not pay her as I was offering a much more comfortable place for her to sleep and she'd already made her nightly goal. Striking a rapport is not hard and it pays off.

[QUOTE=Commando1;1347618]We get out from the bar & she leads me to private car with a Chinese guy (her cousin it seems)[/QUOTE]1. AKA "Chinese" taxi. Number of girls use for transport.

2. They're all "cousins". EVERYONE comes to dxb to make money, each in their own way.

Unless you're falling down drunk, should be safe, except if LE stops,"private" taxis being illegal.

[QUOTE=Commando1;1347618]Her attitude now changes, she strips down quick, massage no longer offered & starts RUSHING. CBJ only offered, I don't know if it was the the beer or her attitude but I had trouble getting fully hard. Did a few positions, CBJ & HJ but I was nowhere near a Pop. She begun complaining "too tired blah blah", at this point I got pissed & left.[/QUOTE]Pay AFTER can reduce risks of [i]attitude changes[/i] and [i]fatigue[/i]. Not eliminate, but reduce. Best to specify IN THE BAR, just so there's no misunderstandings later.

[QUOTE=Commando1;1347618]1. Which bar has large area (not so cramped like TGIT)[/QUOTE]Given that TGIT is the smallest "common" bar, especially if you exclude the back room, any place else will be bigger.

On the other hand, a lot of bars will be "cramped"; that's what keeps them in business. If you're not big on crowds (I never was) , then AVOID like the plague visiting anyplace on a Thursday night. I'd suggest working your way through the bar list you can find here, finding one you like, that offers what you like.

[QUOTE=Commando1;1347618]2. Also has a mix of younger girls (Easier to Flirt & get GFE?)[/QUOTE]Again, TGIT a bit of a magnet for "older" girls, those who don't work elsewhere.

Most any bar will have an age mix.

Flirt? You can have fun, just remember it's a [u]BUSINESS[/u]. In the bar, they're on the job, on the clock. Think stock options, or an airline seat; time expires. Potential clients who flirt too long are considered time wasters.

[QUOTE=Commando1;1347618]3. Some tips on how you get a Rapport with these girls (Considering their poor english, also what can you talk about?)[/QUOTE]I always enjoy talking about world economies, the pluses / minuses of govt market intervention, currency fluctuations, economic crises. Of course, it was always a bit difficult for her to respond with her mouth full, more of a "mnenngh, mnenngh" ... :)

Translations:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2394-Dubai-Reports&p=1268708&viewfull=1#post1268708[/url]

Works for me:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2394-Dubai-Reports&p=1268131&viewfull=1#post1268131[/url]

In the bar, given the noise, plus, as you say, language difficulties, often difficult to carry on a real conversation. Thing is, they're not there for a "real" conversation. It's not a single's bar. Think contract negotiations. Obviously, you want the other party to like you, but both parties are mainly interested in a [u]signed[/u] deal. Most popular words for them are "OK, let's go."

Back home, a little effort at understanding goes a LONG way. Number of girls have electronic dictionaries, or even phone apps that help. Given most of us haven't bothered to set up keyboards with the Cyrillic or Chinese alphabet softsets, google translate can be rather a 1-way street, but still helpful. Speaking slowly, picking smaller words, taking some time for understandings to occur... Can get some BIG smiles when comprehension of something does hit. Asking what city she's from, what job she had before coming to dxb...., though I never pried too deeply in family home life; asking about a kid OK. All I seem to meet are not there because of good conditions at home. I've had some VERY interesting (for both parties) discussions on the incident where either a) a PRC fighter bumped into a US reconnaissance plane in INTERNATIONAL airspace, or b) a US spyplane killed a noble PRC fighter pilot by ramming his fighter. No surefire topic, just depends. PATIENCE is a real virtue, and very much appreciated.

If you look long enough, you can find some that are quite conversant in English, and it ALWAYS amazes me how fast they pick it up.

[QUOTE=Commando1;1347618]I am willing to spend 500 ST for a nice GFE like encounter.[/QUOTE]MY experience: ST OK for tryouts, but for a real GFE, LT better. With ST, she's concerned with completing [u]business[/u], then returning to bar for the [i]double header[/i]. With LT, she's made her money for the night and can concentrate on you. And with LT, a number of girls enjoy playing "house" (assuming you have your own place). Cooking, even cleaning, taking care of you, lets them feel "normal", forgetting about [i]the life[/i]. One regular kept a swimsuit at my place, she really enjoying the complex's pool. She'd spend the night, I'd go to work, she'd enjoy the pool, and when I came home, she made sure I was [i]relaxed[/i] before she departed late afternoon. That facade can work BOTH ways.

Best bet for a GFE ST is during the afternoon. Why it's important to collect a couple of numbers when you're out in the evening, explaining that while you can't see her that night, another time. For a lot of girls, afternoons are dead time, and for a lot, not worth the time, effort, or risk to visit an afternoon bar.

Myself, I have a whole list of GFE wg's. Thing is, that's with ME. Given that the GFE is very contingent on how you click with her, comes down to the individuals. You find one that's giving you good vibes, then give her a test drive. If favorable, repeat (repeat business an excellent multiplier of the GFE effect; I always had a Miss Thursday, given the "crampiness" of bars that night). Just recognize the difference between regular and sporadic. Girls appreciate a nice and safe customer, one where they themselves can relax and enjoy, and especially one that provides a STEADY cash flow. With me, one night a week that she could count on and look forward to... both financially and environmentally.

If not, try again.

Good luck. We ALL started somewhere, dxb a better place than most. Besides, a year later, ANY experience makes a funny story.

Just saw [b]NiceGuy99[/b]'s post when I posted this. I agree with what he says [u]wholeheartedly[/u]. After all, think what makes an enjoyable customer for you, and what makes those that you barely tolerate that way. A number of girls come from environments where foreplay is "bend over and brace". Engaging in something more can reap WONDERS!!! And give them time to relax. Let them feel comfortable and safe. Those that immediately start stripping, or asking where the bedroom is, have me thinking of what's the rush? Why the hurry, what other plans do they have. You do have to consider time when pulling ST, given that hopefully you won't be her only customer, but still... ST in the afternoon one thing, at 10pm another, at 12am, another.

Note: For others: why did Commando1 get his questions answered? Simple. He GAVE something FIRST.

[QUOTE=Rallim;1346004]So back to my place I decide to take the better looking out of the 2 but lacking in the personality department. While the other girl was loads of fun and had a really outgoing personality.[/QUOTE]I've said many times, for the a-listers, the soloists, it's not a question of IF they'll have a customer, but who. Certainly I've known some exceptions, some QUALITY a-listers, but generally speaking, the chorus line provides greater chance of better experiences. I ALWAYS have to find her attractive, but Avis always has to try harder than Hertz.

For ME, as I've posted before, good looks + attitude trumps stunner with lackluster attitude EVERY time.

[QUOTE=Rallim;1346004]while mine was less exciting considering while I was shagging her from behind she started texting a friend who then decided to call her back and she actually answered.[/QUOTE]On the plus side, if you'd seen it in a movie, you'd be saying, "that'd never happen."

I can understand the rationale for the make/receive of A safe arrival call; she's at your place and all is OK. Likewise, A safety call to check on her friend fine. But more than that... any more and she'd receive [i]the look[/i]. If she chose not to take the hint, and things had not initiated, then it'd be "if you want to go somewhere else, let's go back to the bar" (GOOD reason for pulling early). If I was in a good mood, she rode with me, or got taxi fare. If not, she was simply shown the door. No payment required in any case; we'd simply BOTH lost time. If LT, after round 1, then I'd ask if she wanted to depart, I'd simply pay her [b]MY[/b] ST rate.

Regulars had more leeway, but, ironically, never used it. Always plus marks for her when she showed class and switched off her mobile when we got to my place.

If your case ever happened to me, I'd just stop, telling her we'd have to START over when she was finished. Or else start probing other openings, and when she complained, just saying I didn't think she was paying attention TO ME.

Again, pay [b]AFTER[/b] reduces the chance of so many problems... And always important to get those mobile numbers of the good providers, makes it so much easier to hook up the next time. If you call early enough, no need for either of you to go to the bar.

[QUOTE=Rallim; 1347188]Initially I was only wanting one of them but the one I fancied spoke no English what so ever but she was cute as a button and a body I could only dream of scoring using my looks and personality. So it made negotiating alot harder.[/QUOTE]If down to numbers, just pull out your mobile and start dialing a price, passing to her to see if she accepts the call or dials another number. But, as with any, best to make sure all understood, especially duration, BEFORE leaving the bar. When problems arise, she'll usually call over a friend for help.

Biggest concern to me is how to get her home the following morning. Why I always ask where she lives: Bur Dubai or Deira? She'll ask why, do I want to use her place, and I just tell her it's so I can get her home in the morning (plus points for me with her a nice side effect). I am never big on just sending her out to find a taxi and her own way home; I can appreciate "stranger in a strange land". Even bigger risk (for her) if it's ST and she leaves middle of night. On the plus side, if ST, you can always take her back to the bar where you found her. With a newbee, or someone with minimal English, I make sure she gets home safely and without hassle (for her). For me, nothing like having to follow broken English over a mobile while you're trying to drive. Push comes to shove, you take her to a known landmark like a shopping center in her neighborhood, and meet her friend there. But, believe me, those small kindnesses ARE noted and appreciated, not only by her, but with her friends.

[QUOTE=Rallim;1347188]The other one could make herself understood in English so having failed miserably at my previous attempt at a 3some I thought this one might be better. I tried to make it as clear as I possibly could that I wanted them both at the same time and wanted them to interact with each other.[/QUOTE]With unknowns, always better in the movies. [b]Wicked Roger[/b] and [b]Poonhound69[/b] successful in setting up, but at least in PH's case, as he posted, took time, work, and cultivation to match the pair. A lot of girls will say yes in the bar, if nothing else, safety in numbers with an unknown client, but in actuality... Most effective way is just fly to Bangkok and visit the Eden Club. Not saying it won't happen in dxb, but the safe money is on "not as you expected".

I'd suggest, as you found out, concentrating on finding a GFE and meeting her regularly. You can always ask about [i]possibilities[/i]. Just understand that the risk is you shattering the facade of her being [i]special[/i].

I was content with a periodic afternoon regular, who once offered to bring a "new" friend along. I accepted, and so became the norm: I'd just call, tell her I wanted two ladies, and pick up she and whoever she brought along. A number [i]sequential[/i] processing, some [i]parallel[/i], but I did more for cheap variety, along with known, good service, than anything else. Did find a couple LT regulars that way. One negative; the regular could become a bit shy in front of a girl she didn't know that well, concerned about gossip back in her room.

[QUOTE=Rallim;1347188]Now I wanted 30 min to regain my strength but the girl I'd ignored started make noises about her wanting to leave. So I gave her her share of the money and sent her on the way.[/QUOTE]They can always tell where your [i]interest[/i] lies (or lays?). Potential repeat business trumped by potential more business that night common, especially when a mentor has successfully placed her charge. If nothing else, you'll just call her again and you're still [i]occupied[/i] for the night.

[QUOTE=Rallim;1347188]The other one stayed for breakfast tidied the place up and gave me a really nice intimate massage finishing of by playing with my arse while giving me head. Gave her 650+ a 300 dhs tip and she was well worth it. Took her phone number and meet her once more but she is back in Vietnam again after her 3 month visa ran out.[/QUOTE]Repeat business, especially weekly (or more) , very successful in getting a GFE.

Always good to take a number:[list]She might be back.[*]She might return.[*]You can always take a chance and call the number when she's gone; it didn't disappear. No doubt passed along to a friend. You might not know each other, but you'll have some instant cred if you've known "Miss Departed".

Recently, called an a-lister I've known for a LONG time, just to catch up. Voice answered, asked how she was. THEN I recognized the voice; it wasn't hers, but another a-lister I've known for a LONG time. Seems the 1st girl's retired, gone home permanently. Phone was passed (no doubt sold) to the second, along with the included "good customers" address book.[/list]

[QUOTE=Snow1998;1347793]After 3 years one would have thought you would get a membership. It costs a lot more than $20 for even the cheapest one shot.[/QUOTE]Why does someone like [b]Nick9525[/b] need a membership? All he does is post questions; NOT ONE FR in 3 years?

[QUOTE=Killer69;1346841][b]11-09-12[/b] 11:00 I have numbers collected from over the years in Dubai (I've deleted the non-working one's) which I'm willing to swap via private message if you have numbers to swap too. The one's I've got are mostly black with some PRC, and I'm looking for any good numbers in exchange (prefer blacks but I also like something different!).[/QUOTE]No doubt legit, but somehow I'm just a skeptic when it comes to offers to "swap" numbers.

When:[list][*][QUOTE=Killer69;1222303][b]11-30-11[/b] 21:08 Alas, as an infrequent visitor to Dubai, the time has come when my mobile contacts built up over the years in Dubai now cease to be working anymore. I'll be arriving in Dubai late at night in a couple of weeks, so if anyone can Private Message me any mobile numbers for any attractive black ladies preferably with big jubblies and a juice booty it would be highly appreciated![/QUOTE][*]No FR's from dxb in the past year. As in so much else, it's documentation, documentation, documentation; the job's not complete without the paperwork.
[*]No mention of how many numbers still work.[/list]Given that it's so easy to find Africans in dxb, can't see what the big deal is. I'd say the more prevalent complaint is that you can't get them to leave you alone.

No, I'm not the forum police. I just like finding inconsistencies. Just pointing out that cr[u]E[/u]d increases when you post ACTUAL FR's. Otherwise, it's cr[u]U[/u]d buildup.

And I gave up trading baseball cards a long time ago.

[QUOTE=Rallim;1347188]The Sea View, Had a friend that came to visit who has lived in Dubai for about 3 years until a few months ago and on our first night out he took me to the Sea View hotel. Walking in the door I got jumped from 3 girls from "Ghana" all craving my attention, but their pushiness turned me off and it took me about 10 min to get rid of them.[/QUOTE]Seaview, smart man.

Unfortunately, Seaview seems to have gone a bit downhill, at least in MY view, given the decline in PRC's, seemingly having been displaced by legit staff's bias for fellow Philipinas, and by the increasing number of Africans, who tend to grab. Have posted before, I never tolerate that; it's disrespectful. A cold look, with a harsh "I don't touch you, DON'T touch me!", no further discussion, END of conversation, should suffice. But the band, and Cherie (bass player) , are back, best band in dxb, and the Seaview's filet steak with mushrooms makes a very decent dinner. Also a good place to take a [i]date[/i]; you like the music, she gets to see a different venue, and you can dance during the band's breaks.

If you're a resident, or a visitor with a couple of weeks, I'd suggest as I did recently, finding your own bar that YOU like, that has the polluted atmosphere that you can tolerate, music you like, clientele that you can tolerate, with the [i]working staff[/i] that you enjoy. In selecting, visit at various times, both day and hour; like ocean tides, [i]office[/i] staff ebb and flow. Become known to the staff, and the [i]staff[/i]. Both will take care of you.

[b]Commando1[/b]: once you get known by [i]staff[/i], lot easier to engage in passing conversations. Some of the wg's are VERY insightful about dxb in particular and life in general. Wg's will recognize you, and you will carry a reputation, for better or for worse.

Bar atmosphere varies; each bar has its own, along with [i]staff[/i] selection. Premiere, Jules, Kubu, Regal, York, Imperial, Seaview, Panorama, Ratsky's immediately come to mind. All well known and often reported on, some more than others.

Once you pick one, introduce yourself to the manager, and buy him a drink, telling him how much you enjoy his bar. If nothing else, consider it harassment insurance. I always hated the "nuclear" option, and NEVER threatened, but if a girl / girls would not depart my table after some polite requests, freeing up my landing slot, then it certainly was an option, simply asking a passing waitress to ask the manager to step over. Management values repeat, paying customers.

Class: like I posted earlier, always appreciate the class act of a girl switching off her mobile when we get home. When it's a pay after encounter, I never hand the money directly to her, just leave it on top of her purse, say when she's brushing her hair. With regulars, I just place inside. In either case, nothing needs to be said. What I will hand her is taxi money, if she's taking a taxi home.

[quote=rivendell14; 1347499]i live in dubai in the bur dubai area. like many things in dubai, mongering although a lot of fun it's also quite expensive. in order to cut cost i am thinking of taking girls to my apartment rather then booking a hotel room. my question to the senior members.

1. should i do it or it's not worth the risk?

2. if i go ahead what are the risks involved and what can i do to minimize the risks?[/quote]been there done it. mho just get a hotel room; nobody in your neighborhood will know you are a monger, you can be discreet. if you read a few of my posts you will notice that i had to go through unnecessary stress due to this. a room in a wg friendly hotel (like citymax) will be between 200-350. 00. if you go through booking. com you can get cheaper than at the counter. in the long term this money is nothing if you compare it against your lost respect with the neighbors or building security. imagine the wife getting to know about it through the grapevine lol. that cost is nothing against the measly aed 350.00 ha ha. tso

[QUOTE=PeterCavell; 1345556]Back-reporting again, as I just joined ISG this week. I've visited this place three times over the last 16 months or so. As per Kabul Guy's advice, I'm no longer going to list the name / location of these places. PM me for details. As I'm not a very senior member, I won't be too discriminatory.

The AMP is in Jumeira and clearly marked. 1.5 hour oil massage is about 350 AED, so a little pricier than other places I have visited. The girls are on the whole much younger and better looking, however, so that tends to make up for the extra 100 AED. All the massages I've received have been above average, with the girl asking whether I wanted a soft, medium or hard massage. They do the actual thai massage techniques, aka coming close to ripping your limbs out of their respective sockets, etc. :P Still, it's done professionally and I always feel incredibly relaxed for the next few days.

Near the end of the massage, I've been asked all three times about junior. Needless to say, he doesn't enjoy being left out :P I paid 100 AED all three times. Got the feeling I could have gotten away with less, but I'd rather overpay a little and get better treatment. Two times, I had a younger girl named Vicky. A little too much makeup, but great body. She took off her uniform and was wearing a tiny thong and let me touch her all over as she was giving me the HJ. Excellent HJ, and she was even making groaning, sexy noises as she finished me up. The third time, I can't remember the name of the girl. The experience was a bit fast and it seemed like she just wanted me to get out of there. But two out of three ain't bad :P.

My only real complain about the place is that it's a bit small and cramped. You can vaguely hear stuff from other rooms, and I ran into a couple (kinky!) as I was coming out of the bathroom / shower. But in terms of 'looks' of the masseuses, I'd say it's the best place I've been in Dubai so far. And the service has been generally above average.

P[/QUOTE]Hey,

I'm new to Dubai, I've just moved down from London and live in Jumeira area, I'm not sure how things out here work yet really, things are quite different out here than the UK. Anyway, I know it's a bit unorthodox asking, I've got a stressful job and could do with some relaxing and would love to know more about this place or anything similar to it. If anyone has any sort of information around Dubai that offers relaxing massages for not extortionate prices it would be a great help.