Makati

Will be in Makati on the 2/7. Anyone recommend a good place that is near bars and clubs with no hassle to bring girls back.

Thanks all

I currently have a call center for my company in India but I am dissapointed in the quality of the staff. A friend of mine suggested the Philippines due to the similar low cost of labor and the English speaking population. Questions for any Expats or people familiar with.

1) Where is the best location to open the office (small office 8-10 people max) rental rates.? Reliable Internet needed .. anyone know what a 300-400sqft office would go for.? I would assume that Makati would be the location of choice... but others have suggested that I open something in Cebu or one of the smaller cities, cheaper employment rate and office rental... what are your thoughts.

2) What percentage of the population speaks good English. Good enough to respond to e-mail support.? What is the going rate for such a person (salary .. per hour.? )

3) What are the legal aspects of starting a company in the Philippines?

4) What does an 1br apartment in Makati run per month?

Thanks for your help,
ENDER

Ender - I can't answer any of your questions, but thought I would share some points from a conversation I had with someone who ran call centres in both India and the Philippines.

Overall he loved the Philippines due to:

1) Percentage of people who spoke English.

2) He found the English spoken in the Philippines better than the English spoken in India.

3) He found Filipino's more empathetic with customer concerns. Interesting point, he said he would have to train people in India 1-2 weeks solely on soft skills required to deal with customers. These skills were more natural to the people in the Philippines.

4) Cost - I don't know the difference between India and the Philippines, but obviously there is a big difference vs. the US.

Anyhow I am definately no expert in this area, I just found these some interesting points he brought up.

Ender,
I have a friend in Cebu that runs a call center there. Since he is not a member of this board., pm me your info and I can put you in touch with him.

DC4,
I found the oxford suites very nice, but I've also read some reports that rate it much lower, leading me to think there are remodeled rooms and old rooms. It is in the center of all the action.

CA

Does the barfine include the girl's fee or you still have to pay the girl?

Cheers,

1.) Most of the call centers in Metro Manila are trending toward Ortigas now. Makati is the most expensive place to live and have office space, but nicest also. Clark, Cebu, Davao and even CDO are substantially cheaper alternatives. Makati office space typically runs around P500 per square meter and is the most expensive in the country.

2.) It's probably a fairly small percentage of the population that speaks good enough English for call center work, but when you consider that percentage is out of of 90 million people, it leaves a healthy sized pool from which to draw.

3.) Form an Export Corporation.

4.) One bedroom in Makati runs between P15,000 to P40,000 depending on location and building amenities, etc.

[QUOTE=Ender]I currently have a call center for my company in India but I am dissapointed in the quality of the staff. A friend of mine suggested the Philippines due to the similar low cost of labor and the English speaking population. Questions for any Expats or people familiar with.

1) Where is the best location to open the office (small office 8-10 people max) rental rates.? Reliable Internet needed .. anyone know what a 300-400sqft office would go for.? I would assume that Makati would be the location of choice... but others have suggested that I open something in Cebu or one of the smaller cities, cheaper employment rate and office rental... what are your thoughts.

2) What percentage of the population speaks good English. Good enough to respond to e-mail support.? What is the going rate for such a person (salary .. per hour.? )

3) What are the legal aspects of starting a company in the Philippines?

4) What does an 1br apartment in Makati run per month?

Thanks for your help,
ENDER[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ender]I currently have a call center for my company in India but I am dissapointed in the quality of the staff. A friend of mine suggested the Philippines due to the similar low cost of labor and the English speaking population. Questions for any Expats or people familiar with.

1) Where is the best location to open the office (small office 8-10 people max) rental rates.? Reliable Internet needed .. anyone know what a 300-400sqft office would go for.? I would assume that Makati would be the location of choice... but others have suggested that I open something in Cebu or one of the smaller cities, cheaper employment rate and office rental... what are your thoughts.

2) What percentage of the population speaks good English. Good enough to respond to e-mail support.? What is the going rate for such a person (salary .. per hour.? )

3) What are the legal aspects of starting a company in the Philippines?

4) What does an 1br apartment in Makati run per month?

Thanks for your help,

Ender[/QUOTE]I can't answer all your questions, but what I can tell you is that instead of setting up a company, there are plenty of pre-fab existing companies that you can outsource to - many of which that will even let you hire your own HR and they provide everything (office, seats, internet connected computers), all near ortigas, for a per seat per month fee.

[QUOTE=The Governor]Does the barfine include the girl's fee or you still have to pay the girl?

Cheers,[/QUOTE]

The barfine usually just springs the girl from the club. Her fee is a seperate negotiation. Some of the more expensive places catering to expats have the mamasan bundal the expense into one, but you should work that out before you do the take out.

[QUOTE=Member #2718]The barfine usually just springs the girl from the club. Her fee is a seperate negotiation. Some of the more expensive places catering to expats have the mamasan bundal the expense into one, but you should work that out before you do the take out.[/QUOTE]

My experience in barfines in Metro Manila (MM) has been consistent . I had barfined a few women in MM and I have not given anything extra. They explained to me that they get between 30-40% of the amount I have given to the establishment. I know this because my dates normally asked me the amount I have to fork out to get them out of the club
Again, I’m only used to barfining women in Metro Manila. I don’t know the barfine arrangement outside of MM.

BS

So I've read the Manila, Makati and AC threads back to back and was wondering if any of you seniors care to comment (will post in all 3 threads):

OK, I'm game! Am planning my first trip to the PI over an extended weekend, just to party and for general R&R. I don't live very far away :)

Here's my plan: 4D3N arriving in AC as the travel plan allows arriving at Clark only. Head straight to greater Manila, spending the first night in Makati - check out the malls during the day, check out P. Burgos in the evening. 2nd day: head to Malate and spend 2nd night there - check out LA Cafe in the evening. On the 3rd day head to AC and spend the night there - check out Fields Ave. Depart from Clark the following day.

Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:

P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT

I'm less inclined towards KTVs and Saunas, usually preferring the bar/disco scene for semi-pros or FLs. Ideally I'd like to score an 8-or-9-who-occasionally-works, just based on good past experiences elsewhere but this of course is not set in stone. That being said, I wouldnt mind checking out 'regular' clubs like V or Embassy in Makati - whats the scene like there these days? FYI: I'm in my early 30s and believe I would best identify with LoveAsian*****s (think we party the same way), a regular contributor to this thread.

Your comments are welcome!

i will be in makati for a couple weeks and will have mornings and early afternoons free on week days. i can't bring girls to my room as i know about the pinay grapevine. are there any good incalls within an easy walk of greenbelt? the cheaper the better.

[quote=j boy]i will be in makati for a couple weeks and will have mornings and early afternoons free on week days. i can't bring girls to my room as i know about the pinay grapevine. are there any good incalls within an easy walk of greenbelt? the cheaper the better.[/quote]
dunno about greenbelt area, but if you take a taxi up to burgos st (should not cost you more than 40-60pp), you can easily walk to the palacio don pedro from there. this is an mp that is open around the clock with variable pricing depending on time of day you are there. cheapest is before noon, i think. search this thread for more reports, including specific directions.

JBoy,

You could also visit Phoenix Gentlemen's Club (sometimes called phoenix1). It is in walking distance from Greenbelt. Here is an excerpt from a report I wrote. I believe it is still there. If not, someone let me know as I am currently planning another trip to the Philippines.

DAY 2 – MONDAY - MANILA

Phoenix Gentlemen’s Club
----------------------------------

Rested up it was now time to get to business, mongering. Given that it was my first full day I had some pent up demand and felt I should get a quick load off, I felt Phoenix would be a good choice. It is located on Antonio Arnaiz Ave (Pasay Road) across the street from the New World Renaissance and in the Roman Suites Hotel. As has been previously reported there are no signs on the building for either Phoenix or for the Roman Suites. The best way to find it is to find the JVC and iBank signs, there are 2 buildings between these signs. Phoenix is in the building on the right if you are facing the buildings.

When I walk up to the reception desk I immediately see a sign, it says something like “massage is our business, we don’t offer sexual services”. I am thinking oh shit, the guide has never let me down, how could it be so wrong about something so fundamental. I hide this disappointment and opt to go through with it anyhow. The Papasan shows me the fishtank, there are only 4 in there and all are average quality. Not wanting to be too fussy I just went with the Papasan’s suggestion (I just wanted to get a quick load out afterall). I pay the room charge of 1200 peso’s and head off to the room. I am joined shortly by my selection. A quick solo shower and we get down to the massage. It is the typical weak massage you get in this type of establishment. The massage works around my body and then moves to my privates, at this point I realize that sign in the reception area is just a formality and the guide was correct afterall. At this point she offers the “extras”. I ask how much and she says 2000 pesos, we settle on 1700 and get down to business. Out comes a condom for a CBJ which was a little bit of a disappointment, but I don’t argue. Nothing too incredible happened during this session, but I got my first load off. Mission accomplished.

[QUOTE=Weekender 123]JBoy,

You could also visit Phoenix Gentlemen's Club (sometimes called phoenix1). It is in walking distance from Greenbelt. Here is an excerpt from a report I wrote. I believe it is still there. If not, someone let me know as I am currently planning another trip to the Philippines.

DAY 2 – MONDAY - MANILA

Phoenix Gentlemen’s Club
----------------------------------

Rested up it was now time to get to business, mongering. Given that it was my first full day I had some pent up demand and felt I should get a quick load off, I felt Phoenix would be a good choice. It is located on Antonio Arnaiz Ave (Pasay Road) across the street from the New World Renaissance and in the Roman Suites Hotel. As has been previously reported there are no signs on the building for either Phoenix or for the Roman Suites. The best way to find it is to find the JVC and iBank signs, there are 2 buildings between these signs. Phoenix is in the building on the right if you are facing the buildings.

When I walk up to the reception desk I immediately see a sign, it says something like “massage is our business, we don’t offer sexual services”. I am thinking oh shit, the guide has never let me down, how could it be so wrong about something so fundamental. I hide this disappointment and opt to go through with it anyhow. The Papasan shows me the fishtank, there are only 4 in there and all are average quality. Not wanting to be too fussy I just went with the Papasan’s suggestion (I just wanted to get a quick load out afterall). I pay the room charge of 1200 peso’s and head off to the room. I am joined shortly by my selection. A quick solo shower and we get down to the massage. It is the typical weak massage you get in this type of establishment. The massage works around my body and then moves to my privates, at this point I realize that sign in the reception area is just a formality and the guide was correct afterall. At this point she offers the “extras”. I ask how much and she says 2000 pesos, we settle on 1700 and get down to business. Out comes a condom for a CBJ which was a little bit of a disappointment, but I don’t argue. Nothing too incredible happened during this session, but I got my first load off. Mission accomplished.[/QUOTE]



j boy


Just add to weekender post very good direction to this place , I was there last week about 7pm charge for room is 1400 peso there are over 12 girls and
most are 7 pick channel no 4 she is hot with a great body but the massage is weak she ask for FS before the massage want 2000 peso but settle for 1000
is a good vaule I do recommended this place also when to mecury at bivd grand hotel girl there is no as good as phoenix one .

fast eddie 48

Got a good deal on the peninsula. Looks like a first class place. Is it girl friendly?

How does it compare to shangra-la edsa where I stayed last time. How far is it from there as well.

And while I'm at it, how far from L.A. cafe or Burgos Street?

Shangra-la was cool 'coz I could walk across the street to SM mall.