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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1357037]Hey, don't hurt my feelings! I do understand the situation he's facing, but it will get worse and not better.

HB[/QUOTE]Hi Hessen Bub,

I am grateful for your honest advice and experience in these matters.

I did hope for the best and maybe it will change for the better but the reality is that it is getting worse and not better. I think our first 2 months together was like a honeymoon period, she was constantly talking about we do this and that and come out to do that or this but then the 3rd month happened and yes it was the 3rd month when the non paid for activities happened but then the sexual intimatcy stopped except when in the club. This is now the married period I guess where we are not having sex.

I really do thank everyone for bearing with me and sticking to the theme. I have been in a really bad way because of this girl and I think she knows it since she keeps saying she does not want to hurt me but then she cannot let me go either.

I just hope these notes can be used for someone else coming after me having been through the same situation since I can believe that it is not just me that has been where I am now.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1357123]Well all I meant was that I have been close to falling for a club girl like ou hero seems to have done. It did not go nearly so far though before I had my realisation of being more or less just a favoured customer. It is so easy to believe oneself "special" if this is what you want to believe. Indeed think the girl's feelings are genuine so far as it goes. But unless one can get over the steep hurdle of ponying up every time you want to stick it in, you are a customer.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Angus Magee,

I can see I have been reading too much into what she was saying and doing. I mean when I re-read the SMSs and emails we have traded I can see how loving and sincere she was in the first 2 months and it is the 3rd month's notes that somehow the tone has changed. I think she is backtracking realising what she was getting into herself but then also realised she liked me to keep me but still paying. That means I am a customer no matter how often she denies it and somehow feels insulted when I said this to her and she responded saying I cannot say that when we have been outside the club together to do social things. She says she would never do that with a customer. I did not respond by saying then why do I pay to go to the room with you and if we are friends, most friends do not fuck either let alone pay for it. This is a biazzare relationship.

I agree with you that I think this girls feelings are genuine since she does keep in contact and has so many endearing things to say. But then I have many other club girls that I have seen still keep in contact even after I no longer book them or they have even retired. I guess we are friends there too.

I am still reconciling all this but I am in a saner place than where I was in the last few weeks.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1357203]I have been following your saga since your initial post and am glad that you have come to the above realization. You can confirm it by telling her that you like her too much to continue to be a customer so you will not be coming to her club any more (or at least not sessioning with her anymore if, for some reason, you can't stop going to her club) and will only see her outside the club on a non-pay basis, as that is the only way both of you will be able to tell if there is any future for you together. Her reaction will tell you all you need to know about what she considers you.[/QUOTE]Hi Jimmy Boy 99,

Thank you for your comments. They are appreciated.

Indeed it will be difficult for me to avoid going to her club since the club is popular and my friends all enjoy going there. I actually prefer another club but I get outvoted at times over this.

I may indeed ask her that we keep the dates we have planned for around Christmas and into New Years and that I will not book her in the club but we remain friends as she says. I do wonder what the reaction would be that the main way we see each other which is the club is removed from the situation and whether she can cope with seeing me on those rare times we have planned a "date".

The other thing is to take her at her word that I will book other girls and still have my social time with her but she has no booking from me. That will be tough on me as I find her so attractive. But I am building up a resolve now my mind is in a better place after the infatuation it was under these past 3 months. The discussions here on this thread from so many valued contributors and also how my club girl relationship is developing makes me know that this is not going to work given the state that we are in.

Thank you for your post.

[QUOTE=Dufey;1357215]Thank you for your comments.[/QUOTE]Many girls and many men also say endearing things nothing new This girl learns to be working girl, for this she changes slowly the psycology change. For this girl you can be customer or pimp maybe friendd. Like for all things, when you still have conexion after 1 2 year you can speak again for serios. It make you and her stupid to rite things where ozher girls can see and smile. My idea, see her only outside have other girls for sex in club.

Hi all,

So my trip was good ended up sessioning with a stunning girl in OASE for a total of 8 times all 1 to 2 hour sessions over 3 days. So I guess I am in a way in the same boat as in dufey. However my experience is a bit different as on my last visit with her I actually ask her for her contact details. She would not give me and told me she knows I like her but I must expect nothing from her and I should forget her (she was very pleasant on all our sessions and even told me this in the most pleasant way). She actually told me to find a girlfriend from outside but not her. She actually told me that she is a prostitue and it is good for both of us just to forget each other. I know not as romantic as Dufey but I really can get her out of my mind. I actually feel like taking a flight back to germany just to see her before she applies her trade in Dubai after new year. It pains me to know she will be fucking people over there though I know it is her trade. I can see that falling in love with a working girl happens a lot.

So my 1 million dollar question "how on earth do I forget her as I think about her day and night".

These women are really deadly.

[QUOTE=RonnieNorway;1357256]So my 1 million dollar question "how on earth do I forget her as I think about her day and night".[/QUOTE]Best method is to see other women. But ultimately I would say that you just have to think of her day and night until you don't anymore. Been through this enough times to know that that will happen. Also knowing that "love" infatuation has a huge chemical element (that is your brain is swamped with certain neurotransmitters that cause you to think / feel certain ways) can be a good knowledge, if not much comfort.

But really the best thing as I say is to get laid again.

You can deposit the million dollars in my account.

AM

[quote=angus magee; 1357346]best method is to see other women. but ultimately i would say that you just have to think of her day and night until you don't anymore. been through this enough times to know that that will happen. also knowing that "love" infatuation has a huge chemical element (that is your brain is swamped with certain neurotransmitters that cause you to think / feel certain ways) can be a good knowledge, if not much comfort.

but really the best thing as i say is to get laid again.

you can deposit the million dollars in my account.

am[/quote]on my second day i tried that. found myself another hot girl and did 2 sessions with her but at the end of the day my mind still lingers to this girl and i ended up spending more time with her. i must be honest she is unforgetable. she seems perfect in everyway. well life goes on!

anyway thanks for the reply am. erm. will a million rupees do. tell you what i will buy you dinner at oase instead. they serve the meanest pork and beef sausage with grilled chicke / pork with potato salad. heck you can order as much as you want. afterwards we can have a cup of sambuca as well.

[QUOTE=RonnieNorway; 1357256]Hi all,

So my trip was good ended up sessioning with a stunning girl in oase for a total of 8 times all 1 to 2 hour sessions over 3 days. So I guess I am in a way in the same boat as in dufey. However my experience is a bit different as on my last visit with her I actually ask her for her contact details. She would not give me and told me she knows I like her but I must expect nothing from her and I should forget her (she was very pleasant on all our sessions and even told me this in the most pleasant way). She actually told me to find a girlfriend from outside but not her. She actually told me that she is a prostitue and it is good for both of us just to forget each other. I know not as romantic as dufey but I really can get her out of my mind. I actually feel like taking a flight back to germany just to see her before she applies her trade in Dubai after new year. It pains me to know she will be fucking people over there though I know it is her trade. I can see that falling in love with a working girl happens a lot.

So my 1 million dollar question "how on earth do I forget her as I think about her day and night".

These women are really deadly.[/QUOTE]It is strange, but I think these situations are quite common and remind us all that some of us are still very far away from being able to see WGs as mere means of pleasure but human beings. These situations in my opinion tell us all also a different story, many of us deeply inside are simply looking for a surrogate of a normal relationship that for many reasons cannot be found and built outside the clubs. I could make the example of myself, I am coming fro. Some long term relationships (once even seriously thought to get married) but then at the end my very demanding job got always in the middle and my weird working schedule with no limits in terms of time and no predictability always made my fiancees run away. I cannot plan anything, often I also missed my trips to clubs because something comes up at work and so slowly but relentlessy all this drove me to a recurrent and constant "use" of the clubs. I know I made my choice between carrier and happy family (even if sometimes I am wondering if I will ever be happy when I will get the real money my job can grant.) , but at the end when I am in the clubs I find often myself behaving with the girls as I would do with my girlfriend. It is happening exactly the same with my current favorite, I think it will end as in Dufey's case even if she is much more attentive and she has promised things about her and me in the next couple of months. I drew a line for myself, if these things will not happen I will force myself not quite for a while going in the club where she works in order to forget her or at least in order to get a new balance.

However, the point is, are we sometimes simply looking for a girlfriend in the clubs but we do not admit that because we should say we are so desperate for our normal life that we could accept easily that our girlfriend is a prostitue?

Maybe I am the only one who has come so far by reasoning but I feel sometimes like that. I cannot keep a relationship outside cause my stile of life and my job so maybe an other damaged person could be sensible enough to get along with me.

However, Dufey do not worry about going to that club afterward if you break up with your girl, your friends will do for sure their best to come with you in other clubs, but my advice is always to face your demons to win them. She is the one who wants to be a prostitute, you have nothing to be ashamed of if you should cross her path in the future. It sounds like you did you best and you were a gentleman. So nothing she could complain about you whatever decision you make.

[QUOTE=RonnieNorway; 1357256]So my 1 million dollar question "how on earth do I forget her as I think about her day and night".

These women are really deadly.[/QUOTE]However, for answering your question, either you follow the wise advice of AM or you face your destiny and maybe you end up like me that I am seeing my favorite couple of time per month with an astronomic impact on my finances (!) amd so we will end up together with Dufey and we will most likely form the ex-husbands club!

Take care, these girls can be very addictive, they know exactly all our week points and how to make the best profit out of it.

Indi Companion, the one waiting for having his heart broken (again)!

[QUOTE=Smoky Jack;1357201]The captain strikes again. All BS, with the same writing style as CaptCabin, Yakob, our past friend Amtripna or whatever. You are not fooling anyone. This is why there has been such a dearth of credible reports lately. I have to admit you keep a nice conversation going with yourself.[/QUOTE]Hey SJ see'mon stop your useless crusade. Are you really serious saying Dufey and Amriptna are the same? Go back and see what and how the two of them wrote and maybe you will understand why nobody is ever even commenting or taking into consideration your blablabla.

However, obviously you can now say that I am also the same person as Dufey, CaptCabin, Yakob (who actually once I really met in NRW) and Amriptna. One more or one less is all the same!

And if you like a credible report go back and read what people like Yakob and Amriptna wrote and you will see some useful reports.

Now please start attacking also me, otherwise I would feel myself forlorn, LOL!

Simple question to everyone who's commented about having a crush on a working girl. What's the age gap? If its more than 20 years, your probably older than her father. Simple fact of the matter is if your paying her for sex, she's not your girlfriend. Now if she takes you to the room in the club and fucks your brains out and then tells you there's no charge, then there might be something to build on there. Not a relationship, a threesome.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1357524]Simple question to everyone who's commented about having a crush on a working girl. What's the age gap? If its more than 20 years, your probably older than her father. Simple fact of the matter is if your paying her for sex, she's not your girlfriend. Now if she takes you to the room in the club and fucks your brains out and then tells you there's no charge, then there might be something to build on there. Not a relationship, a threesome.[/QUOTE]That's true but not 100% tightproof. However, take my current case of favorite, our age gat is 12 years so it is not the fabel of the beaty and the beast. Not always, these are often too easy comments to be done in such situation but not all customers in a club are well over 50 dreaming of a second golden age.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1357524]Simple question to everyone who's commented about having a crush on a working girl. What's the age gap? If its more than 20 years, your probably older than her father. Simple fact of the matter is if your paying her for sex, she's not your girlfriend. Now if she takes you to the room in the club and fucks your brains out and then tells you there's no charge, then there might be something to build on there. Not a relationship, a threesome.[/QUOTE]Mine is 10 years. She is 20 and I am 30.

I pay for sex only thing I got was extra minutes. However there was one time I got 30 minutes but could be an investment on her part.

But melissa from oase did tell me there was an oase girl who left with a guy she met in the club. He always drop by at oase to see her and somehow they found love. They are still together after 2 years. But of course there is no way I can know whether what this melissa told me is the truth or not. It could happen though duffey.

Pretty women. Anna nicole smith. You germans are so lucky

This has shown me you do have a heart. For it is completely natural that if you are to become so intimately intertwined with a girl that emotions may or as in your case have arisen. In fact it would be abnormal if a fkk visitor never in all of his visits to the clubs never felt the slightest twinge. Hell on my last trip I even had antonia from mainhatten etched into my psyche as the lufthansa a320 I was on glided in smoothly at night over a beautifully lit up london by night as we came into heathrow. Oh I thought how far away now are those sapphire blue eyes, what beast is devouring her now I wondered as the flaps of the plane came down. This is completely normal, for how long ago was it in your real life in the real world that such a beauty like this did all those special things (which I'd love to know about) , to you.

Now the negatives; we've all been in long term relationships or relationships at some point. Weve all made a decision to enjoy the clubs, but you apparently think that a girl who can make upwards of 5k euros a week is really going to give that up for a young stud let alone a middleaged man? No no no! Its time to get real bro, for even if a fkk girl did feel something and even if you were a millionaire who could pay her way, in which case her independence would be comprimised, and that is the key financal independence, self sufficiency is what these clubs give her, and a model of which unless she becomes a renowned academic or business person later in life, this is the only way now she can afford her flat, her small car and believe me you she cannot give that up. Now you sound like a very kind soul with all this bare naked orgy love romance nonsence, but please 1) give yourself time to forget about her, for it is what you cannot have that you desire, and 2) get back in those friiggen clubs man, and enjoy the nakedness and sex on display and enjoy!

[QUOTE=Smoky Jack;1357201]The captain strikes again. All BS, with the same writing style as CaptCabin, Yakob, our past friend Amtripna or whatever. You are not fooling anyone. This is why there has been such a dearth of credible reports lately. I have to admit you keep a nice conversation going with yourself.[/QUOTE]Smokey,

Now you are trolling. You fishing for us? Do you have a hard on for me?

I have said this before. CaptCabin is CaptCabin, Amriptna111 is Amriptna111 and I am Yakob. These people are all separate. Seriously, you need to adjust your medication.

I was even willing to help you find your Jenny from Berlin since I know a Jenny from Berlin. But you do not want it.