Seoul

[QUOTE=AlexisDavis;2749974]The sign says they're moving on the 5th, but the current location is completely torn apart with nobody there. At the new location underneath Mega Coffee, it's also under construction, so are they just temporarily closed in both places?

Also, the place is called Secret K, but it seems to also go by Kiss Time? They're the same thing right?

Are there any other Kiss Bangs in Hongdae besides that one? Isn't Kiss 7 closed?[/QUOTE]Anyone know if this place moved somewhere else or shut down? Are there other kissbangs near hongdae?

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2771755]It was a let down. Braving the -5 deg cold, headed out around 9-10 pm and got rejected. Not even looking / talking to me. At most places. A couple of places they showed me 200 K KRW as the cost on the phone calculator. I countered with 100 K, but they would not budge. The ladies looked 30+ and not worth that kind of money in a RLD. So got into a coffee shop close by and warmed myself with a couple of coffees before heading back.[/QUOTE]Pretty looking ones at YDP actively avoid eye contact with foreigners. Atleast they tried to rip you off, but honestly 200 K for a 15 minutes mechanical session is clear day robbery.

Once a very pretty 20's to early 30's something girl took me in at 100 K but I never had such chance again over there. It's mostly ajhuma's 40 and above who don't get Korean customers that take-on everyone including foreigners.

[QUOTE=JustForFun1111;2771549]It's 90 k for 1 hour and 60 k for 30 minutes. And yea the HJ BJ price is switched. Typo. 21 kiss is 50 k and 90 k.[/QUOTE]So you spend 110,000 for 30 minutes and a HJ?

Are you serious?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2771192]Didn't check out Miari or YDP?[/QUOTE]No. As noted, I always stay in Gangnam, so the north end of Seoul seems way off the map for me. Wasn't even familiar with YDP until reading some recent posts. And it was cold as hell to be wandering around.

I'm very comfortable walking all around Hong Kong and Tokyo, but I find Seoul more difficult to navigate, for some reason. Just a sprawling, traffic-clogged and unattractive huge city. I do love Korean women, though. Among the best looking and best service in the worldwide hobby, IMO.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2771014]LOL, I didn't mean help with throwing away 1,5 million. I meant as in regular action. Has anyone experience with upscale restaurants, bars, lounges ++ where you can try to run game meaning not pay your way to fun. As I said that chase has its own thrill: the.

When it comes to paying for it sure if you willing to pay whatever it's not exactly hard.[/QUOTE]Looks like I'll have to contribute to my own thread lolz, arriving in Seoul tonight.

2 appointments set up with VVIP agencies (900-1,3 M KRW each).

As always I am shit at writing up field reports so if you want one please be as specific as possible in terms.

Of what you want to know and I'll reply.

[QUOTE=RedWaters44;2771028]South Korea and Japan are obsessed with rules, rules, and more rules. And creepy cultural norms of an idea of "sticking with their own" even for their wh*res.[/QUOTE]Philippines and Thailand are dirt poor countries with shit flowing down open canals where millions of people scratch by in a most basic existence.

South Korea and Japan are some of the most developed countries in the world, surpassing western countries in many areas like education (and IQ), safety, infrastructure, health (including STIs and HIV), technology, internet coverage, internet speeds, improved sanitation and more.

The plain fact is that South Korea and Japan don't need or want you. So you can either adapt to what's available or stick to the third world.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2775769]Looks like I'll have to contribute to my own thread lolz, arriving in Seoul tonight.

2 appointments set up with VVIP agencies (900-1,3 M KRW each).

As always I am shit at writing up field reports so if you want one please be as specific as possible in terms.

Of what you want to know and I'll reply.[/QUOTE]I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well!

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2775901]I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well![/QUOTE]Cool, will do. One thing I am wondering about tho is how hard police is trying to hammer down on these activities. As it is per law illegal in South Korea, I wonder if they do any sting operations where they set up fake agencies through OP. Or is it just my imagination running wild?

Anyways that is one thing I wouldn't want to find out the hard way LOL.

[QUOTE=SeoulSearching;2773227]So you spend 110,000 for 30 minutes and a HJ?

Are you serious?[/QUOTE]If you think that's crazy then look at the latest posts. 2 k on a couple of mechanical Korean chicks with surgery LOL.

Visited a Hyugetel in the greater Jamsil area again.

On this visit, I met with a very cute woman who, unfortunately, gave a very poor blowjob--she just sort of licked around the tip. Thankfully, she was hot and made up for the poor BJ by being an avid kisser. As an added bonus she let me explore her body, and had no qualms with me going down on her.

When I finished, she remarked that in the two years she has been in Korea, not a single guy had licked her pussy. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who enjoys slurping it up, but apparently Koreans don't do it or at least they don't do it with these types of ladies.

50 min BBFSCIP 120,000 won.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771228]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.[/QUOTE]Almost all of the OP advertisements list the age of the women. They are also fairly accurate. At most, some of the women might be 5 years older than the listed age, but this is only because the women has been working for 5 years and her information hasn't been updated since she started work.

In Korea, I haven't found that older women are any better than younger ones. It's more a matter of vibes. I've had good, bad, and great experiences with women ranging in age from roughly 19 to 50.

As a rule of thumb, my best experiences have almost always occured on second visits. I've learned that most women keep their guard up on a first encounter. However, repeat visits make them feel sexy, flattered, and unafraid. They always offer a better experience on subsequent visits.

Importantly, I never repeat with women who offer genuinely poor service, women who do not attempt to make conversation in either English or Korean, or women who don't kiss or who don't allow DATY.

And to answer your question, you can't search for Milfs because the ads are all image based. Unfortunately, it's a feature of Korean internet culture which all expats deplore.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771228]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.[/QUOTE]I should have added that there is a place that deals exclusively in milfs called 강 남 건 마 골 드 미 스 . They confirmed that they would let me make an appointment, so they might do the same for you. However, I never made an appointment and so I've never been. That being said, it's a Gunma, so full service is probably not on the table, but they should offer massage plus handjob service.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2775895]Philippines and Thailand are dirt poor countries with shit flowing down open canals where millions of people scratch by in a most basic existence.

South Korea and Japan are some of the most developed countries in the world, surpassing western countries in many areas like education (and IQ), safety, infrastructure, health (including STIs and HIV), technology, internet coverage, internet speeds, improved sanitation and more.

The plain fact is that South Korea and Japan don't need or want you. So you can either adapt to what's available or stick to the third world.[/QUOTE]Third World is the usa.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2776059]Visited a Hyugetel in the greater Jamsil area again.

On this visit, I met with a very cute woman who, unfortunately, gave a very poor blowjob--she just sort of licked around the tip. Thankfully, she was hot and made up for the poor BJ by being an avid kisser. As an added bonus she let me explore her body, and had no qualms with me going down on her.

When I finished, she remarked that in the two years she has been in Korea, not a single guy had licked her pussy. I can't imagine that I'm the only one who enjoys slurping it up, but apparently Koreans don't do it or at least they don't do it with these types of ladies.

50 min BBFSCIP 120,000 won.[/QUOTE]I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).

Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.

[QUOTE=LovinAsia;2771228]Nice list you made there!! Thanks.

Are there any search terms for say more mature women from say 35 to 40 in opigani? Sometimes its nice to have the hot MILF type who know what to do rather than a giggly 23 year old.[/QUOTE]If you are onto milfs, I recommend you look at postings that include 1 or 2 in their name headings. You can find these under "Gunma) Section. These shops only have one or two older women offering massage services and / or FS.

But not all will be offering FS. They advertise massage but look carefully at the ad for a word "shot" in English or Korean.

Listed age for these shops is 35 and above but remember that the listed age will mostly end up being +5 to +10, even higher according to a Korean forum I once read about these MILF shops.