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[QUOTE=Psychman; 1276840]I think you might have missed part of my point- I don't believe in ever, ever, ever trying to even save one. The only transactions I have with them are by the several hour block or by the night. My only point is that they not all stupid, and deserve to be treated with dignity and respect- guys who think they are all stupid too often dehumanize them and treat them poorly. That said, I think anyone who tries to make a prostitute his girlrfreind or wife puts themselves in a position to be in a world of hurt. Never confuse empathy for sympathy. Rent, do not buy, working girls. Never send money. Treat everyone with respect, but don't put up with bullshit. Always be ready to cut loose at the sign of problems- mongering 101.
That said, I am only going on my expereinces in other countries (Peru, Mexico, Colombia, Costa Rica, PI, LOS, Nicaragua). Perhaps it is differnt in the DR, but I doubt it.
Looking forward in seeing if what I have learned holds true in a few weeks. On my first trip to Sosua.[/QUOTE]No I understand your point. I cannot save anyone either, but I will help someone if i like them. With the tough life I had growing up if people did not help me and give me a chance then I would have never made it. I would be a dick if I thought that I was better than anyone knowing where I came from. But I cannot save anyone I only can help them be better if they want it for themselves. Also, there is a difference your talking about not saving a pro and I am talking about helping a non pro.
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[QUOTE=SureThinggg; 1276555]First of all lets get some things straight Ms. Daniel.
1. Did I ever mention your name?
2. Did I ever post any pics?
Hell no, so are you confirming who I was talking about was you? You putting yourself in it. As far as you're concern this could have been a completely made up story, a fabrication, fiction this didn't have to be you. The name Daniel never was typed. But that's more then I can say for the other post. From what I can see you have given up the ass for free, some here have posted pics of you, linked you to a video, even spoke of running a train on you but you single me out? Your priorities are little screwed up. You are making a killing there in sosou plus you are about to get up out of there to canada from what I presume. We all are giving you props but I suggest you watch what you say because I'm quite sure that there are some guys on here who can blow your spot up like Hiroshima. You think those are the only pics of you? Do you think the post that have mentioned your name are the only ones that have dealt with you? These guys are fuckn veterans when it comes to dealing with chicas like you. I'm an amateur.
I don't mention names and I don't post pics and this is the exact reason. If you feel you had to respond to something that has no evidence of it being you, then so be it. I am being very respectful to you but don't over step your boundaries. Congratulations to you and your husband and wish you well.
But to the member who is being messy. Instead of bringing a female into the mix be a man and post what you have to say. If this was your girl, your wife or baby mama or something say something. Daniel is a woman but she had the nuts to make a profile and confront something that didn't even have to be about her but you hiding behind the screen. Instead of running off to her and telling her what people are saying about her it is more attractive for you to defend her honor while you trying to get her love or a discount.
Finally if this was a chick, stop hating on the girl and go get your own damn man to marry. Stop being a jealous whoe and go figure out a way to be like Danny. Maybe get some butt shots or something so some dude can wife you up. Quit being a hater.
I'm being very civil about this don't provoke me.[/QUOTE]I like how you handled this situation surething. I bet you danielle fiance, oh yeah I have a new name for him as well. Clark Kent lmao. It is obvious that Clark Kent is an avid reader of this message board and put two and two together, and decided to confront her. In addition, she completely snitched on herself by confronting you. Surething, it's not your fault that her man confronted her, or maybe like you said, some other chica hating. You have to just laugh though. Peace
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I feel you
In the DR selling pussy is a way of life for many women. The jobs for female are terrible. So they do what they have to do. I respect them as human beings struggling to live. I am not trying to save anybody but I refuse to look down on them. Some have provided me with some great times and not just in the bed.
[QUOTE=HiClassDrifter; 1276850]Old Kool, Revere & Psychman: I also " Agree " that " Empathy " is " Arguably " the best " Way " to " Come " to a " mutually " beneficial " Understanding " with our " Paramours " of the evening! And in the larger " Sense," truly " Highlights " that time honored " Proverb;" Donde hay es Vida, hay es Esperanza! (Where there is Life, There is Hope!) Over & Out Gentlemen!
High-Class![/QUOTE]
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Never ever spend money to save a Pro Especially from Sosua. You guys do not know the hidden secret. 85% of These Hookers have Dominican Boyfriend's that there taking care of.
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1276957]Never ever spend money to save a Pro Especially from Sosua. You guys do not know the hidden secret. 85% of These Hookers have Dominican Boyfriend's that there taking care of.[/QUOTE]OMG, thank goodness for letting us know the HIDDEN SECRET! And I really thought that they loved only me; damn them!
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1277006]OMG, thank goodness for letting us know the HIDDEN SECRET! And I really thought that they loved only me; damn them![/QUOTE]I thought they loved me. And, I haven't even been there yet, LOL.
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A few cents worth
I find it interesting reading some of these posts and decided to put in my few cents worth. As far as bringing a chica back home and marrying one, well, I would think there being 99% chance of this backfiring one way or the other. The nice thing I find about places like Dominican is that the country is still poor and generally the people in these places have a different mentality than in more fortunate places. Don't get me wrong, I am under no impression that a lot of them are great con artists and not innocent, but just saying that their circumstances give them a different outlook. It does not take long after arriving in North america or wherever that this different outlook goes out the window and the person becomes same as any other north american chica. Ie. Would not give most of the guys that go down to Sosua a second look. Lets face it. Why do most of us go down there. I am willing to bet that a large portion of Sosua visitors have trouble getting it back home one way or the other. Or just choose not to pursue a relationship whith a woman back home. LOL or even better, have a wife back home and just want some strange. I think the better option (but still risky) is if one wants to marry a Dominican chica, one goes down there to live and makes sure that ones finances are secure in some untouchable swis bank account.
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1276957]Never ever spend money to save a Pro Especially from Sosua. You guys do not know the hidden secret. 85% of These Hookers have Dominican Boyfriend's that there taking care of.[/QUOTE]What was the sample size and statistical confidence level for the underlying research? It seems strange to come up with such a precise percentage.
Can you also give us the relevant percentages for supporting mothers, children, and other dependent family members, such as the disabled?
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[QUOTE=Frannie; 1277107]What was the sample size and statistical confidence level for the underlying research? It seems strange to come up with such a precise percentage.
Can you also give us the relevant percentages for supporting mothers, children, and other dependent family members, such as the disabled?[/QUOTE]How do I know this? Because I used to have a apartment and lived in Sosua for about a year, I would have some girls come over, and I'm cool with most of them, They would want to use my computer, My house was like a internet cafe. But anyway
Its funny how they would be on the computer for hours talking to <be 6-10 Dudes at a time </be via the instant messager / facebook, talking about Papi I miss you, I love you, etc. SEND WESTERN UNION NOW, . Most of these working girls do this to support there drug habit or.
Support there Dominican boyfriend Lifestyle that they had there Bambina's with. Its not different from the United States, How many strippers and working girls would give you the line. I'm doing this to go to school.
When infact 80% of them usually doing it to support a drug problems or to Feed a Pimp Boyfriend.
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All things considered
What you say has some truth. However I find that most women are feeding themselves and family members. The pay in the dr is terrible. Unemployment rate is over 20%. Selling pussy is a great option and for many the only option. Sure many are playing a game most I encounter want eat and feed their family. Many I speak are disgruntled with Dominican men. I smoke weed every now and then. Most of the chicas I have entertained did not. I do not think they can afford it and it frowned on much more then here.
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler; 1277126]How do I know this? Because I used to have a apartment and lived in Sosua for about a year, I would have some girls come over, and I'm cool with most of them, They would want to use my computer, My house was like a internet cafe. But anyway
Its funny how they would be on the computer for hours talking to <be 6-10 Dudes at a time </be via the instant messager / facebook, talking about Papi I miss you, I love you, etc. SEND WESTERN UNION NOW, . Most of these working girls do this to support there drug habit or.
Support there Dominican boyfriend Lifestyle that they had there Bambina's with. Its not different from the United States, How many strippers and working girls would give you the line. I'm doing this to go to school.
When infact 80% of them usually doing it to support a drug problems or to Feed a Pimp Boyfriend.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=OldKool;1276870]In the DR selling pussy is a way of life for many women. The jobs for female are terrible. So they do what they have to do.[/QUOTE]I really don't think all these girls are doing this to feed their kids. The vast mayority do it because it is easy money. They like sex, and if it is an old guy, they just close their eyes and think about the money (often, this thought is enough to get an orgasm ). Many of these girls have expensive cell phones which they change on a monthly basis. They buy expensive clothes, and when some money is left over, they send it home as well. They often go back home to spend some time with their kids (in many cases the fathers are unknown) they rest up and go back to work to make quick money and live the easy life. Many of these girls have kids from guys whom they were screwing for money.
They were neighbourhood sluts before they became professional hookers.
Not many are innocent as some of us would like to think they are.
I know alot of single mothers from San Christobal who don't sell pussy and they make a living. Why should one work 8 hours a day sometimes 6 days a week 4 weeks a month, when you can make the same amout of money in a single day or a couple of days. There are jobs, which these girls simple do not want to do because they are lazy.
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler; 1277126]How do I know this? Because I used to have a apartment and lived in Sosua for about a year, I would have some girls come over, and I'm cool with most of them, They would want to use my computer, My house was like a internet cafe. But anyway
Its funny how they would be on the computer for hours talking to <be 6-10 Dudes at a time </be via the instant messager / facebook, talking about Papi I miss you, I love you, etc. SEND WESTERN UNION NOW, . Most of these working girls do this to support there drug habit or.
Support there Dominican boyfriend Lifestyle that they had there Bambina's with. Its not different from the United States, How many strippers and working girls would give you the line. I'm doing this to go to school.
When infact 80% of them usually doing it to support a drug problems or to Feed a Pimp Boyfriend.[/QUOTE]It has come down from 85% to 80, but I think the number is probably still on the high side. When these women use men for money, it is doubtful whether that many have an attachment to one who can't provide any. As far as the drugs side goes, I think it is hard to estimate. Having worked with drug addicts in other countries my general impression is that polysubstance abuse is common and that people who are addicted to substances also tend to drink alcohol and smoke tobacco a lot. Certainly the number who smoke cigarettes seems quite low, although there are some. I think the substance abuse may be lower in the Haitian population.
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Opinions are free
sure it is real treat fucking fat old gringos for money. you ever fuck a person who was very unattractive. it sucks. these girls live the life of raleigh sure. they never know when they will score a john. the competition is fierce. go to classicos any night of the week. 10 to 15 women per guy. you think they have no diginity or feelings. they have to turn off many emotions. many drink to stomach fucking strange guys. i have noticed they share meals, cloths and much of what they have. i am not trying to save any whoes but i understand why they do what they do and refuse to look down on them. sure they enjoy having some nice material things but they are the bread winners in their homes. the buy milk for their babies and love their children. it is a hard life with a short shelf life. every year a new crop of 18 year olds are lining up to work. at 25 the clock is running out. quick money? you see all the rich puta in the dr. no i do not think so. vast majority barely scrape by. i feel sorry for them. life is dealing them some very bad cards. they live one day at a time. i try to given 1 good day when they are with me.
[quote=berthold; 1277253]i really don't think all these girls are doing this to feed their kids. the vast mayority do it because it is easy money. they like sex, and if it is an old guy, they just close their eyes and think about the money (often, this thought is enough to get an orgasm ). many of these girls have expensive cell phones which they change on a monthly basis. they buy expensive clothes, and when some money is left over, they send it home as well. they often go back home to spend some time with their kids (in many cases the fathers are unknown) they rest up and go back to work to make quick money and live the easy life. many of these girls have kids from guys whom they were screwing for money.
they were neighbourhood sluts before they became professional hookers.
not many are innocent as some of us would like to think they are.
i know alot of single mothers from san christobal who don't sell pussy and they make a living. why should one work 8 hours a day sometimes 6 days a week 4 weeks a month, when you can make the same amout of money in a single day or a couple of days. there are jobs, which these girls simple do not want to do because they are lazy.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=OldKool; 1277332]Sure it is real treat fucking fat old gringos for money.
I feel sorry for them. Life is dealing them some very bad cards. They live one day at a time. I try to given 1 good day when they are with me.[/QUOTE]I don't think one can put all the chicas in one basket. Just like in any other circumstance, there are many personal factors at play. Some probably do it to feed their kids and support their families and others do it to support bad habits. And there is probably as many other reasons as there are putas. I don't pretend to be an expert on the mob in the DR, but from what I see, at least in Sosua, the presence of undesirables like pimps and hardcore crack addicts does not seem as rampant as I have seen in many North American and European cities. I am sure all this is present there, especially in the larger cities, although to what extent I am not sure. I do however agree with OldKool when it comes to showing the girl you are with a nice day. Afterall they, in most cases treat us to a nice time. I suppose some of the members here disagree with paying more than a certain amount for services. My philosophy on that is that I don't mind spending a few extra bucks on the girl. After all back home those kind of services would cost one considerably more. I find that a little kindness can go a long way. Although one can't come across as a sucker either. LOL. I am not sure that most of these girls would prefer to live in north america if they knew what it is really like. Sure they all want to get out. But I don't think the grass is all that greener on this side. We might be wealthier materially, but I find the people in Dr seem to be happier and live a much simpler life than we do and I think there is a lot to be said for that.
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[quote=oldkool;1277332]sure it is real treat fucking fat old gringos for money. you ever fuck a person who was very unattractive. it sucks. these girls live the life of raleigh sure. they never know when they will score a john. the competition is fierce. go to classicos any night of the week. 10 to 15 women per guy. you think they have no diginity or feelings. they have to turn off many emotions. many drink to stomach fucking strange guys. i have noticed they share meals, cloths and much of what they have. i am not trying to save any whoes but i understand why they do what they do and refuse to look down on them. sure they enjoy having some nice material things but they are the bread winners in their homes. the buy milk for their babies and love their children. it is a hard life with a short shelf life. every year a new crop of 18 year olds are lining up to work. at 25 the clock is running out. quick money? you see all the rich puta in the dr. no i do not think so. vast majority barely scrape by. i feel sorry for them. life is dealing them some very bad cards. they live one day at a time. i try to given 1 good day when they are with me.[/quote]old kool-perfect response!