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[QUOTE=Charles96;2776544]I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).

Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.[/QUOTE]I just ask. I probably get close to a 50 percent hit rate on DFK and DATY. I've never been told that it hurts, but women have told me they are too sensitive or ticklish. Others preapply lubrication and are simply sparing me the experience of sitting up with a mouthful of lube. However, on a few rare occasions, I've found women who like DATY and who also get wildly wet from it.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2776544]I don't know how you succeed in convincing them into a DATY. In fact I love going down as well but they rarely accept. As you've mentioned, seems like most Koreans don't do it and whenever I ask, the women rather find it strange and most will refuse and others say they don't allow it cz it hurts? (Probably because they spend hours being pounded I guess LOL).

Seems, I'll need to explore more OP's. BBFSCIP with DATY at 120,000 was such a good deal.[/QUOTE]90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.

Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.

Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.

Itaewon, The Hill:

Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.

Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.

O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.

Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much.

Ambrosia: This place looks like it's closed as there was a wall of boxes and garbage in front of their front door. Was really looking forward to trying this place out, only blame myself for waiting too damn long. If anyone knows where it moved to, please PM me. Wanted to try the freaky young Thai girl from here.

Texas: 2 ladies working that night. Went with the one who didn't look like a doll, a bit heavier but still decent. BBBJ then transitioned to a CBJ, 80 k. I like that she was slurping on it, the sound effects were just arousing LOL.

Went into the Grand Ole Opry bar and turns out its just a regular bar full of foreigners LOL was expecting it to be seedy and have some freelancers.

Don't know if anyone has tried Tiffany's, Apple, CC Bar, Candy Bar or the massage parlor on the 3rd floor across from Candy Bar / Apple all on that same road. But with all the Trans bars there, wouldn't be surprised if some of these I hadn't ventured into yet are Trans bars.

Hongdae:

Kiss place: Not sure of the name cause the sign is really faded. Went there twice during business hours, first time door was closed / lights off and second time was turned away. Was told they were closed by the desk clerk, not going to argue with the man and will try again next time.

King Thai: Found this place but wasn't sure the first time as I was turned around at the door. It has regular lighting at the front desk, which confused me as the places with extras here always have that red lighting when you walk in. Second visit I confirmed it was King Thai and was allowed in, girl and service was ok. Got a korean provider, mid to late 30's. Paid girl separately from what I paid the front desk, don't remember the amount but was under 100 k for the girl. This was my first massage spa in Seoul, so guessing a separate fee will always be done with the girl in Seoul in general? Could be how business is done here, seniors please correct me if I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777069]Tried a few places in the hill and Hongdae. Some success and some misses.

Itaewon, The Hill:

Pandora: Walked in and saw Nana, guess she's the only one working here as I went twice. Quoted 200 k and was able to get BBBJCIM for 80 k on first visit, then went back for CFS for 100 k. She's most def not bad looking 6/10, but the BBBJCIM wasn't as sloppy and great as its been said on here. She used her hand and lube too much, so maybe her mouth was tired as I went at night.

Nymph: I forget the girls name, but she was the only one there. Quoted 200 k also, dropped it down to 100 k for CFS. Also 6/10 looks wise.

O2: Only 1 girl, quoted 200 k, she would not go below 120 k for CFS. Did not partake.

Top of the Hill: Don't remember if the place was called Laury or XO, but she's been mentioned here before several times. She said there was another girl that also worked there, which I wanted to see before I commit to anything. She wouldn't show me pictures of what she looked like and would not call her over unless I committed to the session and price of 100 k. Decided to walk away, I know they don't owe me anything and I was probably asking for too much..[/QUOTE]Good to know I can get pussy in Hooker Hill still. Did you try Miari and YDP?

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777069]
King Thai: Found this place but wasn't sure the first time as I was turned around at the door. It has regular lighting at the front desk, which confused me as the places with extras here always have that red lighting when you walk in. Second visit I confirmed it was King Thai and was allowed in, girl and service was ok. Got a korean provider, mid to late 30's. Paid girl separately from what I paid the front desk, don't remember the amount but was under 100 k for the girl. This was my first massage spa in Seoul, so guessing a separate fee will always be done with the girl in Seoul in general? Could be how business is done here, seniors please correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Depends on the type of place, but normally for thai places or ones that pretend they're legit businesses, you'll pay the girl separately. Ones with spinning poles and / or red lights and usually older women, you normally pay / negotiate all at once at the front.

[QUOTE=TacoYaki;2777052]90% of all ops / hyugetels / anmas usually all allow DATY depending on the girl. I personally don't like DATY or DFK with these gals but if you ask them to 69 or if 69 is listed, its usually a given.

Been fairing a bit of Vietnamese / Thai hyugetels lately for their cost efficiency! I can fuck the shit out of a girl unlimited shots for two hours and have them rim me / massage me in the down time. All for under 200 k.[/QUOTE]I agree, the Vietnamese ones are damn good and cost friendly. There was my favorite where I used to get almost everything including BBFSCIP for just 150,000 with the most beautiful Vietnamese girls I've ever seen but they closed and I couldn't track them down again since.

[QUOTE=Bonjovi3;2776894]I just ask. I probably get close to a 50 percent hit rate on DFK and DATY. I've never been told that it hurts, but women have told me they are too sensitive or ticklish. Others preapply lubrication and are simply sparing me the experience of sitting up with a mouthful of lube. However, on a few rare occasions, I've found women who like DATY and who also get wildly wet from it.[/QUOTE]I also figured them applying Lubrication before hand seems to be one of the reasons some reject. But I've also met few who love it so much that they even go beyond the allocated time to get more of it and get excited when they see me back.

I guess I'll also need to "just ask" whenever so I can at least hit even half of your success rate.

I haven't even tried asking for DFK with these girls yet, but it could probably be a wild experience worth a try.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2777090]Good to know I can get pussy in Hooker Hill still. Did you try Miari and YDP?[/QUOTE]My understanding is those are the glass house areas. I have not as I'm sure I wouldn't get any services since I'm a foreigner, and based on what I've read on here I wouldn't want to pay 80 k or more for a rushed 15 - 20 min.

[QUOTE=SomeGuy2988;2775901]I'm interested in if the photos and descriptions on the VVIP listings on the OP site are accurate. Also interested in if the girls provide multiple shots, use a condom for everything, do DFK, etc. I think the value of a forum like this is in just dumping the information that you wish you had known beforehand. Since you are willing to engage with the VVIP providers just writing about your experience even a little is a big help here IMO. Hope it goes well![/QUOTE]First girl:

Charge was 900 000 WON.

Her photos were accurate, contacted through agency listed on OP.

She was down for anything minus bareback (I am not interested in that anyway) BJ without condom, english level was good as my Korean is very bad. She was engaged throughout the whole session (80 minutes or so) allowed several rounds, we did it twice. Gave an amazing blowjob.

Looks wise she was really good looking and def taken out of a K drama type of girl LOL, as a comparison she looked similar to Bae Suzy which is a famous Korean actress. Body was out of this world. Did the whole DFK, GFE, allowed intense sex (spanking, deepthroat etc). Nothing really to complain about. But as I have said before I haven't really tried any of the other options so can you get the same for way less than 900 k. Probably, I have no idea.

Second girl:

Charge was 800 000 WON.

Compared to the first one this one was a bit more shy and quiet, but the rest was more or less the same. Looks wise she is similar to Kim Yong-Ji who is famous Korean actress.

I realized comparing them to famous actresses is probably the easiest way of describing how the look.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2777237]My understanding is those are the glass house areas. I have not as I'm sure I wouldn't get any services since I'm a foreigner, and based on what I've read on here I wouldn't want to pay 80 k or more for a rushed 15 - 20 min.[/QUOTE]In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.

Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2777823]In Miari it's common to get 2 shots at 100 K for 30 minutes. You can always bargain down to 80 K but you'll probably be getting one shot tho for a little less time.

Downside is, Unlike RLD in YDP, Dongducheon or paju, Miari ins't a glass house, you have to let the ajjhumas take you inside just to see the girls and it can be difficult to get out if you don't like the girl as some ajjhumas can get clingy af.[/QUOTE]Thankfully for me I'm not very picky as long as she has a ok face and opens her legs.

[QUOTE=MEA2021;2777573]First girl:

Charge was 900 000 WON.

Her photos were accurate, contacted through agency listed on OP.

She was down for anything minus bareback (I am not interested in that anyway) BJ without condom, english level was good as my Korean is very bad. She was engaged throughout the whole session (80 minutes or so) allowed several rounds, we did it twice. Gave an amazing blowjob.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for the posts! Any tips on how to get a reply from the VVIP sites as a white foreigner with modest Korean? I texted a 20 of them and no replies!! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Charles96;2777206]I agree, the Vietnamese ones are damn good and cost friendly. There was my favorite where I used to get almost everything including BBFSCIP for just 150,000 with the most beautiful Vietnamese girls I've ever seen but they closed and I couldn't track them down again since.[/QUOTE]This sounds great! Any specific pointers to find the highest quality foreigner friendly Vietnamese spots?? Thanks!

In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2598491&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2598491.

Some have mentioned that the selection was thin showing up early in the evening or on Sundays. Maybe that is the reason for my experience. Got off work in Uijeongbu at about 5 pm on a Tuesday and showed up at the Dongducheon RLD a little after 530 in late December 2022. So it was just getting dark.

I walked all the areas from the map in the above link and almost all the windows were dark and empty. A few others had lights on but no girls. Only 4 windows had lights on and girls. Two looked early 40's (late 30's at best) with face 6, body 6? (can never tell till the clothes come off). I passed by them at first in search of better. But the only other two booths open had the fattest, ugliest chicks I've ever seen in Korea. Can't believe they make enough to survive. Both of them waved me in but I ignored them. Did another round of all the areas but no new windows were open by around 615. So went back to the original early 40's ok looking ones, but got rejected by both. Not sure why. I'm not hot, but not hideous. Think William Hurt at age 45. I finally just gave up.

So no luck. Maybe it was as others have suggested. Too early in the evening. Not sure. I hope others have better luck.

[QUOTE=JimThom;2778154]In Korea for a bit with some work in Uijeongbu, so I decided to try Dongducheon for my first time as it was not far from there. It's good to note that the RLD is near line 1 Dongducheon Jungang stationnot Dongducheon station. The directions and maps in this post are spot on. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1017-Seoul&p=2598491&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2598491.

Some have mentioned that the selection was thin showing up early in the evening or on Sundays. Maybe that is the reason for my experience. Got off work in Uijeongbu at about 5 pm on a Tuesday and showed up at the Dongducheon RLD a little after 530 in late December 2022. So it was just getting dark.

I walked all the areas from the map in the above link and almost all the windows were dark and empty. A few others had lights on but no girls. Only 4 windows had lights on and girls. Two looked early 40's (late 30's at best) with face 6, body 6? (can never tell till the clothes come off). I passed by them at first in search of better. But the only other two booths open had the fattest, ugliest chicks I've ever seen in Korea. Can't believe they make enough to survive. Both of them waved me in but I ignored them. Did another round of all the areas but no new windows were open by around 615. So went back to the original early 40's ok looking ones, but got rejected by both..[/QUOTE]You visited on a Sunday? In my experience Friday and Saturday evening is the best time. Especially from 7 pm onwards. I have a few service oriented and good looking ones under my belt, whenever I find myself close to that area, I know who to look for. And you'll see most of the windows open on Friday and Saturday.

But It's a definitely a hit or miss on other weekdays especially in this winter, and Sunday might be the same story.