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[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. ...I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]I'm a white man and can't speak to the underlying racism across an entire population in Asia (and sorry about that). What I will say is that I met many, many women who told me, unprompted, that they crave "chocolate" men! I had to laugh out loud, not having heard that term in a while. At a beer bar, Simon 2, in Patts a couple brothers passed by and were bombarded with cooing calls from the lasses, much more than the other punters. For a bit of fun I hollered "yoo hoo, sailor!" too. We all had a good laugh. I suppose my point is that you'll find that you will be adored by the ones who count the most. The girls!

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1108579]LOL.

Giotto.

[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]

[/QUOTE]And I also hope that by then technology will sort out those damn single portion marmalade / jam lids in SEA. LMAO

[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Most of the talk I have seen on the forums is very Indian-centric racism, not at all places but certainly some. That being said, other Indian contributors have come on and said they haven't had trouble but that they dress well and don't show up at Go-Go's in a t-shirt and shorts.

I think if you're worried about Racism make sure you're tidy and presentable when checking out the night life, I think it isn't right that some white gentleman can go around looking like crap and still get service. But it is what it is I suppose. If you don't like the vibe at a venue, go somewhere else. They lose in the end because they don't get your money. There's so many girls at a lot of these venues and while some may not want to go with a black guy others certainly will, you won't have a problem finding a girl that likes you (and you like in return). If a girl doesn't want to go with you, don't worry about it and don't get unhappy because that won't help anything. And you're on vacation! Why waste time being pissed eh? Just move on to another bird.

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1108579]LOL.

Giotto.

[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]

[/QUOTE]Ha! And that makes you laugh? Hehehe.

[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Look, I have been living here for some time now and can guarantee you: Thais ARE Racists, period. They don't like white people, they don't other Asians but they hate Blacks, Indians and Arabs. Hell, they even are racists towards dark skinned Thais!

I see this everyday in the BTS, whenever a Black man enters, Thais usually move (or try to move) far away.

You will be refused entry to many bars in Nana or Cowboy (the doorman will say: "Private Party"). And I have been with girls that absolutely hate Black or Arabs or Indian people. Such is life.

BUT, there are places and Bars that will have no problem with your Skin Color and there are Ladies that will really like to go with you.

If you want a Fuck-a-thon and be treated like a prince and adored by the Ladies, then Maybe Philippines is a better place.

[QUOTE=Jbond;1108472]Happy New Year to you and all fellow members at ISG. In between your time with various hotties and recounting your explots, in the quieter moments may I recommend some light reading. Lawrence Osborne's 'Bangkok Days' really is the definitive and realistic view of life in Thailand. Which I can associate with in my time living here. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Yup. Thanks for the book suggestion. I read a lot. I found a good interview with your recommended author. He hits a a few close nerves in his explanation of his incentive to write about Bangkok.

[url]http://www.worldhum.com/features/travel-interviews/interview-with-lawrence-osborne-bangkok-days-20090430/[/url]

An excerpt from this interview:

"Loneliness is my subject here, I think, far more than the sex trade. But the sex trade is about loneliness, too. It's part of the same thing. I don't think these guys who live there are obsessed with sex, because I don't think human beings are obsessed with sex in that way. We're all obsessed with sex, but not to the point where we just determine our whole life around it. I think that's a myth. It's more complicated than that. It has to do with how you deal with solitude, which gets worse as you get older. When you're young, in your 20s, you don't worry so much about loneliness. But in your 40s and 50s and 60s, you really worry about it. It starts to become a kind of critical thing."

Yet, living in Bangkok as an ex-pat, at least some people, is so much more than trolling for sex, for . Alex Kerr does a good job covering this in 'Bangkok Found: Reflections on the City. ' I was especially impressed how he addresses the constant change that becomes part of everyday life here.

An excerpt from the book:

"As usual, when people start talking about Thailand, you run into more and more complications, and it ends up in a muddle. Bangkok is like a 'thep phanom, ' a smiling angel with hands clasped in prayer above – and twirling leaves and vines below.

(and) Everything is negotiable."

Folks.

I aplogise in advance if I am not posting this in correct section.

I have been to Bangkok before but was with family so could not partake any action.

I plan to travel through BKK very soon and would be greatful if someone can please answer some of the following questions.

1. What do you recommend for someone who has no more than 30 hours available in BKK, has a hotel room but is not a bar kind of guy and does not drink etc? Where do I go to get "partners" for ST and LT?

2. How much (approx) am I looking to spend for LT (min. 5 hours) and ST (min. 1 hour)?

3. Do upscale hotels always charge an extra fee when one walks back with a "lady friend" during day or night?

4. Do most of girls in bars etc speak reasonable english so that one can discuss one's expected services such as anal etc?

5. Which bar (s) is best to quickly go in, take a pick and get going?

5. Are there any places which offer good, private, safe incalls? I don't want something like a busy brothal, but something that is safe and comparable to what we get in the west for incalls?

Thanks again for any imput.

[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Racism exist everywhere in the world. It's no mystery. Only the extent and degree varies. Regardless. I have seen black men do very with the ladies in Thailand. These black men were ordinary, educated, successful, and respectful, American black men. Defense Contractors, Military Men, Law Enforcement Officers, Doctors, Lawyers, Dentist, etc. All vacationing Thailand. They were not professional athletes or celebrities. Rather they were normal american guys from places like LA, Chicago, Boston, NY, Houston, Atlanta, Seattle, Dallas, etc.

In fact some of the most incredible trip reports (with several pictures) I have read were trip reports written by black guys.

Also, when the US Military is in town (Phuket / Patong, Pattaya) , I have seen US Military blacks do well with the ladies. There are just so many women in Thailand, you won't have a problem meeting women and getting the girls you are attracted to. They tend to be the Thai girls who frequent the dance clubs and really like American Pop / R&B music and R&B / pop artist (like Usher, Akon, Chris Brown, etc.). Also the darker skinned, thicker athletic type Thai girls seem to go for the black guys.

As long as you are respectful, well mannered, presentable in appearance and hygiene. And you have cash, and know how to treat the ladies. You will have few problems with the ladies in Thailand. Just like Las Vegas, but better. Several Thai ladies told me that they like "Chocolate Man", and some even told me that they prefer "Chocolate Man". Years ago, that would have made a lot people extremely mad and upset. These days most people that show disdain for it it are other foreigners. So you might be mistreated and disrespected by other foreigners. I saw this happen to an American Black in Phuket but he was with a large number of US Military buddies (blacks and whites). Some Europeans and Americans vacationing in Thailand, are supremacist. So the resentment you will face from them is no different that what blacks have historically experienced in the US, and are already accustomed to in the US. You will be fine, just ignore any hatred or resentment you encounter, and move on to the next receptive lady that catches your eye.

Thailand has an infinite supply of women that keeps replenishing. Bonus: The mixtures are lethally hot (Euro / Asian, Black / Asian, and Indian / Asian, Chinese / Thai, Korean / Thai, Thai / Khmer, etc.) , and there are gorgeous women from all over SE Asia (Burma, Cambodia, and Laos) in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Mafidorea.

It depends on what you are refeering to. Obviously there are lots or women (mostly younger) that love African Americans and will tell you they love them while the older ones prefer White males but I beleive this is also frequent in other countries including USA.

In the P4P business it is always advisable to take your time and make eye contact in a line up and you will be able to tell which girl wants no part of you or really wants you, regardless of race. If you are stubborn and go for the hottest one and she is not into you, it will not be a good session.

Now when you are going to areas outside of the fun area, yes you might run into a bias based on generalization however my feeling is that, if you warm up to people, smile at them and respect their culture, you should have no problems.

Just my 2 cents.

A. B

[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]Bro,

Get your ticket and go! I went to Pattaya- Bangkok in November, no problems. If you continue to listen to other people as to who is racist and who is not, you will never experience the LOVE Thailand has to offer.

I read that same shit about the Phils, had a ball, AC- Manila.

[QUOTE=Oakwood99; 1108788]Bro,

Get your ticket and go! I went to Pattaya- Bangkok in November, no problems. If you continue to listen to other people as to who is racist and who is not, you will never experience the LOVE Thailand has to offer.

I read that same shit about the Phils, had a ball, AC- Manila. [/QUOTE]Just be personable, well presented and speak the American English, that will distinguish yourself from the native Africans who have usually given blacks a bad name, especially in BKK. OK you may run into a racist or two somewhere: if you don't let that get to you, then you will have a great time and will definitely not regret making the trip.

[QUOTE=Finrod;1108821]Just be personable, well presented and speak the American English, that will distinguish yourself from the native Africans who have usually given blacks a bad name, especially in BKK. OK you may run into a racist or two somewhere: if you don't let that get to you, then you will have a great time and will definitely not regret making the trip.[/QUOTE]Good point Finrod!

[QUOTE=Mafidorea;1108604]I am an African American male. I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for awhile (I actually had one planned for last year but cancelled due to fighting in the streets ). Anyway, doing my research on Thailand, I came across a lot of sites that said the Thais don't care for blacks and some that said that Thais are just plain racist in general. For all the frequent visitors to the land of smiles, what is the real deal?[/QUOTE]I'm a white, American guy who has been to Thailand about 10 times, but admittedly I don't live there. Based on the posts from a number of African American guys on this site as well as the anecdotal evidence by hanging with some guys in BKK and Pattaya that happenned to be African American, I think if you are just basically a nice guy you will be fine. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist there. It exists everywhere. But I don't think it's too as great a degree as is often presented. Take Oakwood's advice and go! The more African American guys that go and are "nice" guys. The quicker the racism will disappear to a greater degree, in my opinion.

Have fun! I think you will be surprised that you will be fine! There's a lot of black guys who go and have a ball!

[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1108763]An excerpt from this interview:

"Loneliness is my subject here, I think, far more than the sex trade. But the sex trade is about loneliness, too. It's part of the same thing. I don't think these guys who live there are obsessed with sex, because I don't think human beings are obsessed with sex in that way. We're all obsessed with sex, but not to the point where we just determine our whole life around it. I think that's a myth. It's more complicated than that. It has to do with how you deal with solitude, which gets worse as you get older. When you're young, in your 20s, you don't worry so much about loneliness. But in your 40s and 50s and 60s, you really worry about it. It starts to become a kind of critical thing."

Yet, living in Bangkok as an ex-pat, at least some people, is so much more than trolling for sex, for. Alex Kerr does a good job covering this in 'Bangkok Found: Reflections on the City. ' I was especially impressed how he addresses the constant change that becomes part of everyday life here."

[/QUOTE]As with many Authors, his opinion is just generalising, and doesn't allow for immense variation in the character of sex-addicts.

There definitely are those whose entire trip revolves around screwing as much as possible and leaves little time to do other meaningful things. This especially applies to those lacking in good regular sex, all too many.

I have been in the endless screwing mode at times, although I tended to repeat with the very best girls, rather than try new ones all time. These days I have moderated. My trip may start with furious sex for first day or two and then drop off. I now believe there is no point to boring ordinary sex. Only fabulous girls or freebies (need not so fabulous).

But think of the famous Tansak KTV whose typical day might have involved 10-20 shots. Does one never get bored by it? :confused:

I can admit that I am a sex addict, but have it somewhat under control that I can go for weeks with no real sex, if placed in an undesirable country. I can work okay despite sex being a very significant part of my thinking and motivation. But in Thailand, we never need to miss out, except when under strict supervision by a "She who must be obeyed" (A term by "Rumpole of the Bailey". English TV). :(

[QUOTE=Margaya; 1108768]

[quote]2. How much (approx) am I looking to spend for LT (min. 5 hours) and ST (min. 1 hour)? [/quote]ST is usually over once you cum. If you want a longer ST, better negotiate with your lady beforehands. Just say you want a ST of 2 hours and cum as many time as possible. Price may be higher.

[quote]3. Do upscale hotels always charge an extra fee when one walks back with a "lady friend" during day or night? [/quote]No, Not always.

[quote]4. Do most of girls in bars etc speak reasonable english so that one can discuss one's expected services such as anal etc? [/quote]English isn't the major problem, even the ones that speak it well can pull a fast one. Let's say you agree on Anal, the girl in the bar will tell you yes, she loves it and all that stories. But once in the room, she will say your cock is too big, she has pain, she not feel well and all that sort of Crap.

[b]My advice to you[/b]:

1. Book your hotel in advance.

2. Call Mango (or email) that you want Miss Bo, or Cat, or Ice for the night.

3. When you arrive at your hotel, the girl should be waiting for you in the Lobby.

4. Fuck her as many times as you can, Blowjobs, Anal, the whole bits.

5. In the morning Pay her the 3, 000 overnight fee. And a tip in you want (I usually give more if they stay longer or have Anal)

The real best is to take 2 girls. For a mere cost of 2, 000 thb and they are real pornstars