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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2249222]I am not talking about people who are clinically insane, cannot function in society and need to be committed to an asylum. I am talking about mongers that are depressed, lonely, and want to escape reality. Some people use alcohol or drugs recreationally. Then you have people who are addicted to alcohol or drugs because they want to numb the pain. I think the same can be said of mongering. If you meet some hardcore mongers, it becomes evident that some are socially challenged. They may have not have ever had a friend, much less girlfriend. So some of the posts we see around here are pleas for help.

Some people will never seek help because they are in denial that there is problem. Their perception of reality is distorted. Because the truth and reality is so painful, their mind subconsciously distorts facts as a defense mechanism. For instance, someone with an incredibly low self esteem can convince themselves that they are superior..[/QUOTE]It is depend on ones stand point.

Whether you like it or not, all of us here are not accepted in society if we begin to talk openly about what we talk about here. I personally accept this fact.

I do not go around even in male friends circle about what I do in Germany, I tell them that I like German history and design when it comes to my continuous trips to Germany mostly to same city.

If I tell society about how men dream of sex with multiple young beautiful girls, so I decided to turn my dreams come true by using escorts and German FKK, most part of society will not accept me even deep inside many men will agree deep inside them or even agree with me inside, but will denounce me of what I do LOL.

Look, this is irony of society, those men who criticize about monger like me if I talk openly about what I do, they themselves go home, lock the door, so their wives cannot see them, and they turn the computer on and masturbate to some porn stars that I fucked for money before LOL.

I mean I find it ironic, but the society seem to think this is the right way for men to go LOL. Am I the right one or they are the right one is depending on stand point, but in reality, I think I am more honest about living good life in reality, those guys who criticize mongers just live in fantasy in their virtual world. I prefer to turn dream into reality.

Well let it be and I myself hide what I do in my private time in area of insane sex, but I decided long ago that I will go my own way to turn all my dreams come true no matter what and so far, I did good enough job, I just do not talk about it openly to society because I know I will be denounced by those masturbation losers LOL LOL!

I prefer to turn my dreams into reality no matter what, and I am willing to go half the way around world to some German country side like Bruggen etc to do so LOL, those masturbation losers can stick to their computer screen behind locked computer room door in fantasy LOL.

I did the math LOL!

Yeah we're all mongers here. But human sexuality is only one part of being a complete person. Basing the discussion of mental health with arguments regarding the merits of paid sex only reveals a deficiency in the ability to think like a complete human being. Friendships, family, professional achievements, hobbies, physical health, intellectual development, and emotional intelligence could have been brought up; but fact of the matter is that it wasn't. In light of this, McA's post regarding mental health now holds even more weight.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2249275]It is depend on ones stand point.

Whether you like it or not, all of us here are not accepted in society if we begin to talk openly about what we talk about here. I personally accept this fact.

I do not go around even in male friends circle about what I do in Germany, I tell them that I like German history and design when it comes to my continuous trips to Germany mostly to same city.

If I tell society about how men dream of sex with multiple young beautiful girls, so I decided to turn my dreams come true by using escorts and German FKK, most part of society will not accept me even deep inside many men will agree deep inside them or even agree with me inside, but will denounce me of what I do LOL.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes this topic comes up, so having experienced both, let me drop in my perspective on this. Hope this is useful to one or more of you who have not done the Brazil scene.

There is no format worldwide quite like the FKK. If you want to pay one price, hang out for hours in a comfortable spot with food and drinks and naked women and experience quality sex (usually) then the FKK is tops. Nothing quite like it worldwide.

But here is how Brazil differs (for me) You can of course get all sorts of different sexual experiences in Brazil, from the seediest to the classiest. But what attracts me are the high optics Barsileiras who really get into being with you. At this level, what is different is a true GFE, not just in the sexual sense, but in a way where you feel true mutual connection -- you honestly believe they are into you and want to be there. And I honestly think for many of them this is not an act -- in that moment, they are truly enjoying being with whomever they are with. This gift seems unique to Brasileiras in my experience.

Just a few examples from my few days there that even go a bit beyond the room. Oh, and all three of these girls had 9+ faces. Nicer than any girl I've been with at Sharks or Oase (or Palace or World of course).

Karina -- Spent two hours in the club together just flirting and kissing and dancing (no charge). In the room she danced naked just for fun (she is a semi-pro dancer IRL). Great session. Cum on tits. She wanted me to go to the beach with her and her friend the next morning.

Carolina -- Had drinks and chatted for a half hour on our second date (no charge). After a spectacular session and one pop, she seemed truly disappointed when I said I had to go. To this day I believe she wanted me to stay the night.

Thifany -- Full on DFK in the club for 5-10'minutes at a stretch. I always broke the lip lock, not her. Unsolicited no up charge rim job in the room. Stayed and touch by whatsapp. Agreed to fly to London to stay with me for a week long business trip. Wow. Whole nuther story there.

I guess I've gotten a little bored with "the usual" and so this next level GFE is my escalation. And I am really enjoying it.

If this appeals at all. Or you want to learn more about the Brazilian options (boates, terma, etc) head to the São Paulo thread where I will post some Clift's notes tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2249325]Sometimes this topic comes up, so having experienced both, let me drop in my perspective on this. Hope this is useful to one or more of you who have not done the Brazil scene.

There is no format worldwide quite like the FKK. If you want to pay one price, hang out for hours in a comfortable spot with food and drinks and naked women and experience quality sex (usually) then the FKK is tops. Nothing quite like it worldwide.

But here is how Brazil differs (for me) You can of course get all sorts of different sexual experiences in Brazil, from the seediest to the classiest. But what attracts me are the high optics Barsileiras who really get into being with you. At this level, what is different is a true GFE, not just in the sexual sense, but in a way where you feel true mutual connection -- you honestly believe they are into you and want to be there. And I honestly think for many of them this is not an act -- in that moment, they are truly enjoying being with whomever they are with. This gift seems unique to Brasileiras in my experience.

Just a few examples from my few days there that even go a bit beyond the room. Oh, and all three of these girls had 9+ faces..[/QUOTE]Post like this make me fly over 20 hours to be in Brazil and I'll be saying to friends that I now suddenly like Brazilian culture and history about sudden frequent Brazil trips LOL.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2249222]I am not talking about people who are clinically insane, cannot function in society and need to be committed to an asylum. I am talking about mongers that are depressed, lonely, and want to escape reality. Some people use alcohol or drugs recreationally. Then you have people who are addicted to alcohol or drugs because they want to numb the pain. I think the same can be said of mongering. If you meet some hardcore mongers, it becomes evident that some are socially challenged. They may have not have ever had a friend, much less girlfriend. So some of the posts we see around here are pleas for help..[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] There is a guy in that club that does not go with ladies he just spends his time between the jacuzzi and the restaurant and sitting in the couch. No lady approaches him because they think he is bizarre. I was watching this guy for a while and I noticed that he suffers from autism. I know very well because I have experience working with others, he was doing some strange things that obviously made the girls scared, he was alone all the time. When this man left the club I am sure he was feeling better so yes these clubs can be like clinics to some people. Well done for the management for accepting such people, just respect!

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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2249325]Sometimes this topic comes up, so having experienced both, let me drop in my perspective on this. Hope this is useful to one or more of you who have not done the Brazil scene.

There is no format worldwide quite like the FKK. If you want to pay one price, hang out for hours in a comfortable spot with food and drinks and naked women and experience quality sex (usually) then the FKK is tops. Nothing quite like it worldwide.

But here is how Brazil differs (for me) You can of course get all sorts of different sexual experiences in Brazil, from the seediest to the classiest. But what attracts me are the high optics Barsileiras who really get into being with you. At this level, what is different is a true GFE, not just in the sexual sense, but in a way where you feel true mutual connection -- you honestly believe they are into you and want to be there. And I honestly think for many of them this is not an act -- in that moment, they are truly enjoying being with whomever they are with. This gift seems unique to Brasileiras in my experience.

Just a few examples from my few days there that even go a bit beyond the room. Oh, and all three of these girls had 9+ faces. Nicer than any girl I've been with at Sharks or Oase (or Palace or World of course).

Karina -- Spent two hours in the club together just flirting and kissing and dancing (no charge). In the room she danced naked just for fun (she is a semi-pro dancer IRL). Great session. Cum on tits. She wanted me to go to the beach with her and her friend the next morning.

Carolina -- Had drinks and chatted for a half hour on our second date (no charge). After a spectacular session and one pop, she seemed truly disappointed when I said I had to go. To this day I believe she wanted me to stay the night.

Thifany -- Full on DFK in the club for 5-10'minutes at a stretch. I always broke the lip lock, not her. Unsolicited no up charge rim job in the room. Stayed and touch by whatsapp. Agreed to fly to London to stay with me for a week long business trip. Wow. Whole nuther story there.

I guess I've gotten a little bored with "the usual" and so this next level GFE is my escalation. And I am really enjoying it.

If this appeals at all. Or you want to learn more about the Brazilian options (boates, terma, etc) head to the So Paulo thread where I will post some Clift's notes tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Found this truly very helpful Steve. Great info to inform us why a trip to Brazil should be on the cards for anyone who also loves FKKing. I suppose if you are European based, as I am, its difficult to be able to persuade your better other half that you need to go on business to Brazil. Worse - my beloved would immediately announce she loves this and wants to come with me. Hence double the cost and completely defeating the purpose of booking! So not sure how I'm going to swing that but it's in my mind now as I think a lot of the Brazilian girls are stunning and your description very much fits the bill for me!

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2249411]Found this truly very helpful Steve. Great info to inform us why a trip to Brazil should be on the cards for anyone who also loves FKKing. I suppose if you are European based, as I am, its difficult to be able to persuade your better other half that you need to go on business to Brazil. Worse - my beloved would immediately announce she loves this and wants to come with me. Hence double the cost and completely defeating the purpose of booking! So not sure how I'm going to swing that but it's in my mind now as I think a lot of the Brazilian girls are stunning and your description very much fits the bill for me![/QUOTE]And why do you have to tell her your destination is Brazil? Tell her you are going to India and then download some google pictures to send her while you are supposed to be 'there' for you business trip LOL LOL.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2249436]And why do you have to tell her your destination is Brazil? Tell her you are going to India and then download some google pictures to send her while you are supposed to be 'there' for you business trip LOL LOL.[/QUOTE]Time difference means I'the be calling her in the middle of the night!

People react to rejection and failure differently. Aesop's fable about the Fox and the Grapes is the most cited example for the use of rationalization as a defense mechanism. The fox jumps repeatedly but can't seem to reach the grapes hanging on the vine. Rather than addressing his shortcoming of not being able jump higher, he rationalizes: "Those grapes were probably sour anyway. ". The truth here is that fox was not able to reach his goal. The self-deception here is that the goal was not worth it or he never really wanted it in the first place.

When the fox failed to reach his goal, he had two choices: (1) train harder to jump higher or (2) give up. Deep down the fox really wanted those grapes, but he does not want to admit that he is not a good jumper because that reality is too painful. To protect his ego, the fox tells anybody who will listen: "Those grapes were sour anyway". The fox will repeat it over and over again, because he is trying to convince himself that he made the correct choice. The fox may also be judgemental towards other foxes, considering them foolish for training hard to obtain grapes that will likely be sour.

If someone has difficulty making friends or getting a GF, withdrawal is a common defense mechanism. When one isolates themselves, they can't get rejected. Problem is withdrawal leads to alienation and loneliness, which may make one easy prey for WGs (or just lead them to spend every free moment in a brothel). Fantasy is a defense mechanism that can be considered positive when not pathological. A world class athlete often fantasizes about winning an Olympic Gold medal in order to motivate himself to train harder. But some people start to live in the fantasy world that they created, and become detached from reality.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2249320]Yeah we're all mongers here. But human sexuality is only one part of being a complete person. Basing the discussion of mental health with arguments regarding the merits of paid sex only reveals a deficiency in the ability to think like a complete human being. Friendships, family, professional achievements, hobbies, physical health, intellectual development, and emotional intelligence could have been brought up; but fact of the matter is that it wasn't. In light of this, McA's post regarding mental health now holds even more weight.[/QUOTE]I keep it simple. We human managed to develop our brain to the level where we can think diverse things in life in such a deep level.

However, that does not change the fact that we are still a organism with main 5 appetites. Lust is one of them and maybe still considered by society as taboo thing to openly gain or talk etc.

We monger managed to solve that problem, so I keep it simple as that.

All appetites often become motivation for us human to be complete and become drive in life for us to do or achieve something, but I keep it simple as I mentioned, as for lust, I am complete with my own way that I found ever since I was 17 or 18 years old.

If this way affected my life, yes big time LOL. But it was done consciously for me, I wanted this way, easy access to sex with young beautiful girls was what I wanted and managed to achieve since 17 or 18 years old with modification each year. It is just one of main appetite I wanted as human male, nothing more nothing less.

I do however, feel grateful and take mongering seriously as hobby because I do enjoy so much to sit back every day to think of all the young beautiful girls I fucked around world and feel quiet deep satisfaction inside me.

I did many things in life, like travelling world since young age, eat good foods, devote myself to materialism, visit historical places etc that I still do enjoy, but been there and done that and nothing satisfy more than fucking new young beautiful girls, so for me it is my main hobby followed by eating good food because this is something I do 3 times per day every day.

I don't know, as an example. Let say visiting taj mahal, red square, great wall etc etc. Or fucking young new beautiful girls, I choose fucking new young beautiful girls because I have done both of those choices, but second one of fucking young new girls, it is new sight seeing each time. I do not visit those many historical places again and again and in some places I visited more than once.

But visiting new young beautiful girls body from head to toe is something I never seem to get bored and each time is new excitement that make me want to fuck new young beautiful girls, but I am more calm than before obviously because I have been doing this for long time and my stunner level get higher and higher too, but again, each new young beauty is new destination for me to visit, bran new young beautiful ass, anal, pussy, tit, face, eye everything is new excitement for me.

I do not abandon other things in life, but I am bored with many things in life because I had it since young age, but with new beautiful girls, I never get bored and still give me buzz when I find new young stunner level beauty.

Further to my prior post, I have put a summary of Brazil over on the São Paolo thread.

Part 1 - the basic scene and venues.

Part 2 - tips and tricks for max success.

Really if you are a serious enthusiast you must at least try it. I have done Germany, UK, Spain, Russia, Thailand, US, China, Japan and if given only one choice next year, I would go to Brazil hands down (see my post a couple back for why).

Hope this helps someone broaden their horizons. Feel free to PM if you have questions.

If you talk about sex addiction from society point of view. For those fly in monger including myself ending up in place like Bruggen etc just for sex is already sex addict enough. This is from society point of view.

From monger point of view, place like middle of no where in German country side Bruggen, or some other factory or car garage concentrated industrial area where most FKK is situated is the most desired travelling destination that is worth travelling half of this planet to leach to those places LOL.

Some monger admit it, some monger claim they are still normal, I admit that my favorite destinations are German middle of no where like Bruggen or some other middle of nowhere car garage industry area which are on the other side of planet, my secret heavens are in those odd places LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2249721]If you talk about sex addiction from society point of view. For those fly in monger including myself ending up in place like Bruggen etc just for sex is already sex addict enough. This is from society point of view.

From monger point of view, place like middle of no where in German country side Bruggen, or some other factory or car garage concentrated industrial area where most FKK is situated is the most desired travelling destination that is worth travelling half of this planet to leach to those places LOL.

Some monger admit it, some monger claim they are still normal, I admit that my favorite destinations are German middle of no where like Bruggen or some other middle of nowhere car garage industry area which are on the other side of planet, my secret heavens are in those odd places LOL.[/QUOTE]So Bruggen is the best place to stay when visiting NRW clubs mr. Ho? And what if you don't have a car like me?

You call it keeping it simple; I call it being an incomplete human being. Food and sex doesn't distinguish us from dogs and monkeys. Intellectual and emotional development does. Forming full relationships with people outside of sexual ones also do.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2249699]I keep it simple. We human managed to develop our brain to the level where we can think diverse things in life in such a deep level.

However, that does not change the fact that we are still a organism with main 5 appetites. Lust is one of them and maybe still considered by society as taboo thing to openly gain or talk etc.

We monger managed to solve that problem, so I keep it simple as that.

All appetites often become motivation for us human to be complete and become drive in life for us to do or achieve something, but I keep it simple as I mentioned, as for lust, I am complete with my own way that I found ever since I was 17 or 18 years old.

If this way affected my life, yes big time LOL. But it was done consciously for me, I wanted this way, easy access to sex with young beautiful girls was what I wanted and managed to achieve since 17 or 18 years old with modification each year. It is just one of main appetite I wanted as human male, nothing more nothing less..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2250264]So Bruggen is the best place to stay when visiting NRW clubs mr. Ho? And what if you don't have a car like me?[/QUOTE]I do not have a car too in Germany, I do not like to drive in Germany so I use public transport.

I usually stay in Dus near main station, I take train to breyell, from there, I take taxi. Mind you that taxi is always there, but only one or two, so once I was stuck at station for one hour almost trying to find taxi number from people passing by, so be sure to take taxi number LOL.

It actually is very easy to access with public transport and taxi to GT. It is like my morning commute when I am in Duss for mongering. Then if LU is bad, then I go back to Duss and try hitting oceans which is more of night shift club.

I was just saying, I would not even think about going to Bruggen if there is no FKK there LOL, but for fine tit and fine asses of young beautiful girls, I go all the way to god almighty Bruggen LOL.