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[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2250264]So Bruggen is the best place to stay when visiting NRW clubs mr. Ho? And what if you don't have a car like me?[/QUOTE]Stay in downtown Dusseldorf close to the main train station for the transport links and availability of doner kebabs.
Just like guys using public transport stay by the Frankfurt main train station when going to Hessen area FKKs and needing a late night doner kebab meal before bed.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2250620]Just like guys using public transport stay by the Frankfurt main train station when going to Hessen area FKKs and needing a late night doner kebab meal before bed.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about me :D
I get one every night ( get the Doners wraps), at Mamaris in the RLD or Nazar by my hotel. We have nothing close to them in the USA just shit knock offs and ' Gyros'; which is garbage in comparison. More so Greek, a Greek immigrant ' Kronos' started a tiny place in Chicago decades ago now they sell the brand nationwide in grocery stores too. Now the great grandkids are all millionaires. But they still suck compared to Doners.
Our Turkish food compared to here is night and day, like our useless hookers!
It is a safe bet that KK can be found at Gypsy Land by day or a Turkish joint by night. I even eat them cold, often buying one before hopping on the train to Dietzenbach and eating it hours later. They are good cold too :D
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2250699]Are you talking about me :D
I get one every night ( get the Doners wraps), at Mamaris in the RLD or Nazar by my hotel. We have nothing close to them in the USA just shit knock offs and ' Gyros'; which is garbage in comparison. More so Greek, a Greek immigrant ' Kronos' started a tiny place in Chicago decades ago now they sell the brand nationwide in grocery stores too. Now the great grandkids are all millionaires. But they still suck compared to Doners.
Our Turkish food compared to here is night and day, like our useless hookers!
It is a safe bet that KK can be found at Gypsy Land by day or a Turkish joint by night. I even eat them cold, often buying one before hopping on the train to Dietzenbach and eating it hours later. They are good cold too :D[/QUOTE]The gyros they serve in Greece has nothing to do with the same one abroad especially in the USA and Australia. It is also much much cheaper around 2 euro only while it is at least 3 times higher abroad. Also the Turkish kebab is not like the Greek gyros or souvlaki. Greek food and after that a Turkish baklava can be better than sex sometimes LOL.
[QUOTE=Takedown;2250464]You call it keeping it simple; I call it being an incomplete human being. Food and sex doesn't distinguish us from dogs and monkeys. Intellectual and emotional development does. Forming full relationships with people outside of sexual ones also do.[/QUOTE]Well with women, I have friends, but I do not want to go sexual with them even some are beautiful. Intelligent enough and from so called good family and back ground, though it does not mean they have not been fucked.
I had different life to many people since young age, I was quite spoil in many area in life, whether it is education, travelling or meeting people etc. And been there done that and what I am saying is that after all what excite me most still is new beautiful girls to fuck and eat good food three times per day as I wish, exercise and travelling which I do between FKK trip, I do other things, but it is noting compare to eating best food and fucking new young beautiful girls.
For me all are more or less not just complete, but completed, it is just that eating best food and fucking new young beautiful girls never for me is completed because it is endless journeys for me for that two areas. Seeing new young beauty and fucking her is whole new first time experience that never fade for me. You know what I mean?.
Though such excitement only last till I fuck her few times then it fades away a bit because I have been fucking beautiful girls since age 17 or 18 years old. But it still fresh to me to great extent at least the first fuck with new young beauty that I find every year.
On thing though, I am still excited to go to Germany but before I was eager to go, but now I need more convincing especially when mongering back home is going good with good supply of stunner level beauty is given at time. Though for rest of my life, as long as money, health and FKK offering allow me, I will force myself to go at least one trip every year to Germany just for FKK everyday. I usually like once in summer and once in winter trip, to feel both seasons as well, this year I only made it to winter one in earlier this year.
Girls often tell me that line up is better in cold weather, but with my experience I tend to find more stunner during low summer season for some reason.
Anyways, life has many blessings, connecting with another human being is blessing like I connect with some of mongers that I met virtually here, but if one convince me that connecting with another human being called wife then no way, I don't need such stressful connection LOL! Dog? I much prefer to connect with dogs emotionally than with the human so called wife LOL! Sexually I do not mind connecting with wife as long as she is young, beautiful and does not cost me much and as long as she won't be my wife LOL! Just sex, no thank you for marriage LOL!
Like frankly said I did it my way LOL!
Or change the lyrics of Julio Iglesias song of to all the girls I love before to all the girl I fucked before, now they are somebody else's wives, I am glad they came along, to all the girls I fucked before LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2250507]I do not have a car too in Germany, I do not like to drive in Germany so I use public transport.
I usually stay in Dus near main station, I take train to breyell, from there, I take taxi. Mind you that taxi is always there, but only one or two, so once I was stuck at station for one hour almost trying to find taxi number from people passing by, so be sure to take taxi number LOL.
It actually is very easy to access with public transport and taxi to GT. It is like my morning commute when I am in Duss for mongering. Then if LU is bad, then I go back to Duss and try hitting oceans which is more of night shift club.
I was just saying, I would not even think about going to Bruggen if there is no FKK there LOL, but for fine tit and fine asses of young beautiful girls, I go all the way to god almighty Bruggen LOL.[/QUOTE]For a guy that like to keep it simple and this being your go to hobby you sure got this whole process twisted. If you go to Germany for the purpose of visiting clubs it is much easier to rent a car. Unless you don't have a license to drive or something like that you are totally screwing up your trip by not having a car. Maximize time in clubs. Go anywhere anytime. Line up is not good. Leave. I have driven in many countries and Germany is by far the easiest and most well thought out driving process anywhere. Buy a GPS. Pre store all clubs and hotels, car can double as a hotel if your crafty, follow the GPS and speed limits when they apply. For a bunch of grown men this should be very easy.
Also going from GT to oceans defeats a propper monger session of GT to LR with the discount entry and possibility of a killer day. None of this oceans nonsense, leave that for Pistons. LOL. Any newbies here don't follow Mr ho's lead on this one.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;2250806]For a guy that like to keep it simple and this being your go to hobby you sure got this whole process twisted. If you go to Germany for the purpose of visiting clubs it is much easier to rent a car. Unless you don't have a license to drive or something like that you are totally screwing up your trip by not having a car. Maximize time in clubs. Go anywhere anytime. Line up is not good. Leave. I have driven in many countries and Germany is by far the easiest and most well thought out driving process anywhere. Buy a GPS. Pre store all clubs and hotels, car can double as a hotel if your crafty, follow the GPS and speed limits when they apply. For a bunch of grown men this should be very easy.
Also going from GT to oceans defeats a propper monger session of GT to LR with the discount entry and possibility of a killer day. None of this oceans nonsense, leave that for Pistons. LOL. Any newbies here don't follow Mr ho's lead on this one.[/QUOTE]Look, sometimes I get tired of explaining, but I tend not to like to drive in foreign land due to safety reason and more importantly, I like good train travelling while I am trip to enjoy the view, look at local people, even talking with some of them during my train journey. On top of that I smoke some legal herbs, so I do not want to drive like that also. But I enjoy trains in first class in normal train so I can sit down or ice normal class is fine by the window if I can sit down. I enjoy it so much with my lovely sandwiches I buy, with good big coffee with some sweet and mineral water.
I do not screw up my visit for clubs that I attend to so far because I learn the line up shift for each clubs I attend to.
I can give you some example of my trip, this is one of the version of my trip briefly. I land in Frankfurt, it is usually around 7 pm ish or bit later unfortunately from where I am, from airport via train, I go directly to FKK palace because it is more night time shift club with girls coming in at around 7 pm ish with last shift usually comes in around 8 pm and be in main bar at 8:30 pm, so I am usually at palace by 8 pm to enjoy night time shift girls, I stay in palace till like midnight or later, if it is mid night, I go back with train, it is close to club and I know the times of train and I stay near hbf, so easy walk from station to hotel.
Second day, I wake up, I take train to Duss at around 8 am or 9 am, change train heading to venlo, from station I walk and buy some legan herbs in coffee shop. I take either train back to breyell or I usually take taxi to gt, it is 40 euro nice country ride, usually I am at club like bit after noon, I still get locker and not all girls are there yet but since it is day club, shifts are just turning up at around noon till like 1 pm etc. Last line up at gt are usually at 4 pm the latest, full line up is there by 5 pm, so I still got good 5 hours till I have to leave club as at 10 pm ish it is last train back to duss, and by then I have done 3 or 4 sessions, it is enough for me. If line up is bad, I go back to duss via train and go to oceans which is night shift club with train which is easy ride to duss roth station then I can even walk or take bus which take you to 1 minute walk to oceans. LR is easy to leach from station too, it is like 5 min walk or not even from duss ikea station.
I can go on, but for each town, I got full time written in my little notebook I take with me and all the routes etc are all written down and for convenience wise, it is all set for me.
I enjoy life, and I like taking good train ride enjoying view and it provide me more safety due to my situation. Good train ride, enjoying good coffee and view of foreign land is part of fun for me as well.
So far all Hessen, Berlin, nrw region, train and public transportation has been all perfect with almost no big taxi expense at all, even from airport I do not take taxi to FKK unless I am late for landing and late for shift time for club and I am desperate to fuck certain stunner I know LOL!
However, in Berlin I stay at Charloteenberg and to Westkreuz which is next station, they do not even check ticket, so it works out fine for me.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;2250806]For a guy that like to keep it simple and this being your go to hobby you sure got this whole process twisted. If you go to Germany for the purpose of visiting clubs it is much easier to rent a car. [/QUOTE]Exactly. Especially in the NRW where there are so many choices.
If you find the Autobahn intimidating, just stay in the right lane. Germans are very good about only passing on the left. And for God's sake don't just hang out in the left lane. You will find a Mercedes or a BMW up your butt in no time!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2250792]
I had different life to many people since young age, I was quite spoil in many area in life, whether it is education, travelling or meeting people etc.
I love before to all the girl I fucked before, now they are somebody else's wives, I am glad they came along, to all the girls I fucked before LOL![/QUOTE]Glad you clarified about all the spoiling re: education. Could have fooled us.
One question: since you have printed, may be a thousand times, that you fuck young girls in brothels before they become some other guys' wives (almost as a badge of honor, and implying that being at the top of sex chain is your biggest source of pride) — does that make the Romanian lover boy's station the highest honor in your book? After all, he fucked all those girls before he dumped them on you?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2250854]Glad you clarified about all the spoiling re: education. Could have fooled us.
One question: since you have printed, may be a thousand times, that you fuck young girls in brothels before they become some others' wives almost as a badge of honor, and implying that being at the top of sex chain is a source of pride does that make the Romanian lover boy's station the highest honor in your book? After all, he fucked all those girls before he dumped them on you?[/QUOTE]It is not badge of honor, but it is preferable position from my stand point where I do not want to deal with not necessarily stress dealing with older women or even young Womens non sense behavior that would have stress me out.
As for Romanian lover boys or pimps or related, I am grateful for their existence because they are the business who send more and more beautiful girls to FKK industry, without them there most likely won't be as many stunner as we managed to enjoy at FKK, so I do not really think of the whole thing as food chain, but I am grateful to both FKK platform and to those loverboys or pimps business platform they created to send those girls to FKK, it is more like synergy life cycle than food chain as it is all part of business circle, monger, pimp and FKK are the three key players, but also I am grateful to cleaning ladies, towel boys and so on, all these people are not in food chain, but within monger business cycle that benefit each other like synergy affect.
However, husbands are whole different thing, it is not in monger business circle as I illustrated above, it is well supposed to be final destination for girls, and I do not want myself to be the final destination point.
What I like is easy position to enjoy young beautiful girls for short period of time of her young age of early to late 20's max.
I think in monger business cycle, pimps and lover boys are like blood line to the whole business circle and to its FKK platform and I am grateful for their hard work because it is not easy as it seem to send those girls to clubs, we monger have it easy, we go up and pay reasonable amount with so much less effort and time to fuck these girls, so instead of thinking it mongers co workers, colleague in away or supplier of products and service we want as food chain, I am grateful for the effort and service these loverboys or related has done for us for such reasonable cost.
I hope such business circle will continue and I do hope extreme up sell will ease a bit in some club as it is still reasonable to fuck girl for 30 min 100 euro of upsell price, I would like it to be more mild up sell for not annoyed point of view to kill the mood some times.
I much prefer to be on my side of business circle than spend all effort and time put in to talk and seduce girl and send girls to FKK, believe me it is not easy business as you think for those loverboys and pimps, we monger are lucky to be in position to pay such low price for what we get for such low effort with easy access to sex with young beauties one after another or two at same time.
In the end, husband get the final dumping point who is out of business circle, but a sucker for love LOL! This goes to all normal young beauties I fucked also, I see them on sns, I am glad that I had those girls in their early 20's or some of them like 19 years of age. Husband is the guy who pull the joker and don't get it confuse and bring husband into the circle of monger as husbands are the naive innocent boys who are ignorant in most cases LOL!
Well it is depend on stand point, Jnpr30.
I heard all you mean before in school, in TV, religions among other information sources, I think it is fair to say society norms.
However, all these connection thing with women and all that maybe for most, but I decided to use my own brain and think for my self and it really is not my answer to happiness, but in fact unhappiness because simply women age and I do not like older women.
I understand you and how majority like to think based on what society norms teach us since young age like I was also exposed to, but it is just that I began thinking for myself and being connected with different human being such as women and settle with her for most part of my life really is not my happiness, it is torture for me once she turns let say age 30 or whenever she begin to age.
The point is I think it is beautiful if you like all these society norm thing with women, but problem is you or majority do not understand some of very few minority who does not like these thing, but just want to keep on fucking young beautiful girls instead of connecting with them via marriage.
I go to FKK because I want to fuck, now and then, I meet some girls with great personality and some are even informed and smart, but whether it is normal girls or professional girls in FKK, I do not see happiness in marriage or connecting with them as human being.
I understand your happiness in that, but you do not understand there are other people who do not see happiness in same thing, but see agony in such connection in long term. I think most people with prompt diplomas heard about all these society norms, but I do not like to follow all of that and when it comes to women, I just like young beautiful girls sexually, nothing more nothing less and I think I am and also other minority professional mongers are entitled to keep on fucking young beautiful girls see deep happiness and satisfaction in that, but see, this is society, some of professional mongers cannot speak out about our hobby or happiness in life of fucking many young beautiful girls because as soon as we speak our happiness so called society begin the attacks simply because our definition is not same as society norms of definition like marriage and being connected with women.
I understand other side and I am happy if they are happy with their wives, but it is just that I do not like older women and I prefer to keep changing young beautiful girls I fuck because it make me happy. Being deeply connected with a or the woman for many years is not my happiness, but it is agony for me.
[QUOTE=SevenIron;2250806]Unless you don't have a license to drive or something like that you are totally screwing up your trip by not having a car. Maximize time in clubs. Go anywhere anytime. Line up is not good. Leave. I have driven in many countries and Germany is by far the easiest and most well thought out driving process anywhere. Any newbies here don't follow Mr ho's lead on this one.[/QUOTE]Excuse me, but I also don't rent cars on mongering trips in Germany either, and I'm as seasoned as they come. It's all a matter of what you like and how you want to get around. Germany also has one of the most well thought out and planned public transportation systems in the world making it easy to get where you want to go. You even have mongers who have posted videos on YouTube on how to use public transport to get from here to there (used those during my very first mongering trip to Germany).
Now, I get around to many clubs on a trip, but I'm not one to go to this club and that one and then another one all on the same day. For me, it's today it's "Palace day", then "World day", and so on. So no need for a car to be bouncing from one club to another. That's not how I roll. That's not what works for me. And I'm not "screwing up" anything regarding my trip. Some people like me and Mr. Ho come from places where public transportation is the major way that we get from one place to another in our own countries. So we're quite comfortable with it and appreciate a good public transit system, and that's what we prefer. And it's more of what the planet needs.
The lesson that newbies need to take from anything that is written in this place on any subject is that you need to figure out what works for you. Then you do that until it doesn't work for you anymore. And then you find another way. That's the lead you need to follow. That's what a grown man does. What works for him. You want to drink a glass of milk while everybody else is sitting around downing liquor? Then just do it!
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2250834]Exactly. Especially in the NRW where there are so many choices.
If you find the Autobahn intimidating, just stay in the right lane. Germans are very good about only passing on the left. And for God's sake don't just hang out in the left lane. You will find a Mercedes or a BMW up your butt in no time![/QUOTE]And what about the German Autobahn phenomenon called "stau"? That is both intimidating and not easy to overcome.
But I do agree with the general principle that hire car is ultimately the best way to go.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2251045]And what about the German Autobahn phenomenon called "stau"? That is both intimidating and not easy to overcome.
But I do agree with the general principle that hire car is ultimately the best way to go.[/QUOTE]A stau, in terms of time, is equal to missing your bus or train resulting in a 1 hour wait. If your driving and come upon a stau, you apply simple courtesy. I forget the German term for it but cars in the left lane move to the left edge of the lane and cars in the next lane to the right move to the right of the lane as much as possible. This creates space for emergency vehicles to use to quickly gain access to the incident. If a lane is closed, exercise the zipper principal alternating 1 vehicle from the left, then one from the right into the open lane. If you are traveling in the opposite direction, slow to 130 kmph or the posted speed but don't stop to look. If you are that curious to know what happened you can check bild. De the next day. Other German driving courtesies include not staying in the left lane for long periods of time. Even when I'm driving at 160+ if I'm not passing cars immediately I will move right. It's not proper to flash your lights when coming up behind a slower car but it happens and if someone is flashing their lights I usually try to move out of their way unless I'm currently driving one car length behind the car in front of me, slower than my pace. Yes, this is following too close but if he moved right I wouldn't be so close.
One way to avoid status is to travel at off peak hours. Normally if I'm at a club I wait until after 7 pm to try to leave to avoid the after work rush of people trying to leave the cities between 4 pm and 7 pm. Going to the clubs I try to minimize my time I will be on autobahns near cities between the hours of 8 am-10 am. This bit of common sense goes a long way.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2250897]The lesson that newbies need to take from anything that is written in this place on any subject is that you need to figure out what works for you. Then you do that until it doesn't work for you anymore. And then you find another way. That's the lead you need to follow. That's what a grown man does. What works for him. You want to drink a glass of milk while everybody else is sitting around downing liquor? Then just do it![/QUOTE]Excellent.
The more this is repeated the better.
Listen to others' opinions then find your own way. Explore, experiment, and do what works for you.
The Cane and I have different ways of enjoying the clubs, but we each do what works for us. Mr Ho wants a non-relationship sex, Jnpr30 and Takedown (if I read rightly) suggest the importance of relationships. Some people fuel their fkk activity with doner kebabs, some people rely on vegan food, some use cars, some use trains. All ways work for someone.
Mr Ho. If I lived in your home country I think I might have a similar view to yours. The girls are so cute.I am addicted to watching the famous girl pop group as a substitute. I even went to the brand cafe lol
[QUOTE=MrHo;2250825]Look, sometimes I get tired of explaining, but I tend not to like to drive in foreign land due to safety reason and more importantly, I like good train travelling while I am trip to enjoy the view, look at local people, even talking with some of them during my train journey. On top of that I smoke some legal herbs, so I do not want to drive like that also. But I enjoy trains in first class in normal train so I can sit down or ice normal class is fine by the window if I can sit down. I enjoy it so much with my lovely sandwiches I buy, with good big coffee with some sweet and mineral water.
I do not screw up my visit for clubs that I attend to so far because I learn the line up shift for each clubs I attend to.
I can give you some example of my trip, this is one of the version of my trip briefly. I land in Frankfurt, it is usually around 7 pm ish or bit later unfortunately from where I am, from airport via train, I go directly to FKK palace because it is more night time shift club with girls coming in at around 7 pm ish with last shift usually comes in around 8 pm and be in main bar at 8:30 pm, so I am usually at palace by 8 pm to enjoy night time shift girls, I stay in palace till like midnight or later, if it is mid night, I go back with train, it is close to club and I know the times of train and I stay near hbf, so easy walk from station to hotel.[/QUOTE]This post should be pined, you provided such useful information. I want to add that when I go to Palace I stay at Flemings or Ibis, Fleming is just behind Palace 1 min walk, you can go back to hotel sleep or rest and come back for fucking LOL, Ibis is also just a 5 min walk.
Mr. Ho second day which club are you referring to?